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dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:35 AM

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its kinda wasted

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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the best part of bellowing strength is that, i think i said it before, bellowing strength buffs the call dmg itself

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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sick

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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also, here comes in the best part about duo boons w/ zeus

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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the damage still seems lackluster to me

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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if duo call is a thing

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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it's very, very likely to provide lightning as well

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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btw its billowing

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had to look that up

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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God A: I will protect you!
God B: Nah I do it better

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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so, a zeus call and a zeus duo for constant jolted is enough

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:36 AM

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continues arguing in the background

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Ill try it out

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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I can't wait to get more story out of these gods versions

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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This game is all about exploring all of the combos

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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gonna be my new favorite mythology

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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I think i once got zeus revenge zeus call and sea storm for jolted

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it's pretty decent

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the sea storm only applies to the cast

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i got

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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yay i got a rare with no bob

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:37 AM

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i kinda wished demeter commented more on her weapon of choice

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shes just like "oh, its my fist i think"

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:38 AM

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listen, fade, bruh...she ain't got time for that

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gots bullying to do

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:38 AM

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like bullying zeus

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:38 AM

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My play style just involves dealing as much damage as I can until I feel like I'm in danger and then getting out until I feel like i can get back in there. That's why for this play style, having athena or poseidon call are my favorites because it gives me an extra out (and extra damage in the case of poseidon)

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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@lethal crane my buff zeus video thumbnail will be demeter and artemis t pose for dominance over zeus cowering in the corner

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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My playstyle is either to perma stagger or to not get close at all

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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i play like hulk QQ

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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but that's referring to when the heat is high enough that I'm worried I can't win

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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which makes me hate spear A LOT

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I just got a very very good spear dps game today

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but because spear has a bit of self-stun after attack so u can't dash

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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spear is good

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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i got f'd

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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That's my play style with fists

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:39 AM

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i love my fork

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when it could do multidash strike

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and then combo with special

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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so, after that run, I went for a 40 heat chaoes shield run

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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That's why I only use spear special for high heats

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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got blackout on chamber 12

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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i wanna go for a sick spear-throw run, be a kite

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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still died to middle management soul crasher

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40heat is my new go-to frustration let out method

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Extreme Memesures

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:40 AM

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what's the max heat btw? 40 or?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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I feel like the best strategy for 40 heats is just pray to RNGesus and take 2 in limited choices

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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atm

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Extrememe Memesures

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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oh yeah it's middle managment, my bad

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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14% dmg is current record for no dmg

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on hera

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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also, i think heat max is 54

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but i doubt anyone can do it

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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stupid witch

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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yeah

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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wait, this game hasn't been BEAT yet?!

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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40 imo is self-punishing enough

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:41 AM

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everyone running those speedwons

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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54 is not meant to be beaten

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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if its in the game its to be beaten!!!

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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40 is masochist level already

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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says the guy on heat 2

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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I've made it to styx a couple of times on 40

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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54 is "giving u a choice so your 40 can be different each time"

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@naive laurel we need to program an AI to beat heat 54

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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when do heats get hard btw? i imagine around 8-10

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:42 AM

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like one of those yt videos where ppl program ai to play games

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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atm it feels like a minor boost to mobs

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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with current game running smoothness, i doubt it

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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but im usually already beaten and broken down by then

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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it starts when you open benefit package 2

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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lemme check my 40 run settings

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time to screenshot twitch...

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:43 AM

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I think I still hold off form BF2 on 40 heat

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from

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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I still dont like no choice imo

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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That's the most damaging heat in most cases for me

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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i swear im shooting those purple balls and they stay alive

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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i took bf2

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lost 3 dd in tartarus

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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I gotta check my log in the admin room

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dang

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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whats bf

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:44 AM

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I might have been able to clear one of the 40 heats if patroclus came through

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but alas

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:45 AM

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patroclueless

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:45 AM

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@hybrid galleon benefits package

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:45 AM

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thats bp

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:46 AM

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true lol

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benefits f*** me

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:46 AM

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teleporting invulnerable flamewheels

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i cri everytime

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:46 AM

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note to self... default bow is garbage with deflect

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:46 AM

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The day of the update that they introduced BP, I did a run with just maxed BP and it was harder than a 20 heat I swear

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:47 AM

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I still all for them removing the No Choice

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for one its not fun

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and you are now on the mercy of rng

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and the last thing i want in a roguelike is more rng

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Yeah im in the same boat, I don't like heats that make your run nearly 100% determined by luck

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:47 AM

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I did this 40 heat
https://imgur.com/CW84F8R

Imgur

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:48 AM

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then don't use it

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:48 AM

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it's doable

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:48 AM

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I like the system as is because they give you a lot of options to control RNG

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:48 AM

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it feels like maxing out heat is so hard it's not ideal

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what is the last statue worth?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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That's pretty much identical to what I do

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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I hate no regen, heightened security, approval process, and so I didn't pick them

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Although i did play around with approval process

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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I would prefer if the no choice worked like chaos boon

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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But tight deadline, healing consequences, heightened security.... no thanks

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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you can pick it, better rarity means worse chaos like effect

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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you step on traps?

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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TD can work on 9min, if i got good things

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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It's just too painful

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Ugh, no, but I get 150 dmg bladed once

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big no ty

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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if you have a run that's working

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but it's just a little too slow

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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heightened security is easy for me

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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okay okay

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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the trap one i assume

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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but do a 40 heat run with it

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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trying to

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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Trust me, I use magma to dodge higher dmg all the time against hydra

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:50 AM

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you are a master if you can press the things to deal dmg on your enemies

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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Yeah it's basically for lava

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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before i get all my bounties

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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i bet it's awful on poison

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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and styx blades eating dd, big no

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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i hate cultists

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they cause poison so fast

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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The occasional misstep on to a spike trap

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or hades urn things

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:51 AM

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lol ive been there

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but ive learned not to play around it

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also again, i have maternal instinct to defuse urns

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that works out for me ig

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:52 AM

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Also, if you're lucky enough to get sure footing

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it makes the run considerably easier

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It's honestly mostly because of lava for me

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:53 AM

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in EM Hydra?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:53 AM

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yeah

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:53 AM

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god i hate em hydra just for the magma

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tbh

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:53 AM

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yeah

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:53 AM

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Then go vote for my suggestion of camera zoom consistency then :p

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that camera zoom different mess up my dash so much too

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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with extra trap damage, I lose 1-2 dds pretty easily at hydra

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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That's a bit too much 2bh

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I usually get bottomed, but getting 1 dd took away means lack of aoe dmg

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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I've noticed i take damage even while spam dashing across lava though

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idk if it was from a different source

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:54 AM

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yeah

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every dash just makes me end up in lava

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like every single time

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:55 AM

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but there is so much going on and I'm pretty sure I was just dying to lava despite speeding over it

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I've also been mini stunned in lava at em hydra, and then proceeded to lose like 150 hp in like 1.5 seconds

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:57 AM

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oooof

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:57 AM

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I'll take 2 points in healing consequences over 1 in heightened security

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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try take 4

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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ahh i can't

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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just 4 heat

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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oh

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 6:58 AM

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but its all consequences

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 6:59 AM

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ill use guan yu

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:00 AM

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imo asphodel witches are the worst kind

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:00 AM

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I try and keep consequences to max 2 levels, ideally 1 or none, when doing high heats because I almost always take bouldy for the healing

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What are the best kind?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:03 AM

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i forgot whats the pattern of armored elysium witches

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:04 AM

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they do like 3 bursts in a 3 spread each

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:04 AM

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does it cast 3 balls? or what

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i mean aspho comes with a lot of bullet hell

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lol

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i think the bow is too slow

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the power shot just takes sooo long

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:06 AM

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git gud on the timing

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you can rapid powershot if you mastered it

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and boi it feels great

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 7:06 AM

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or, get flurry shot and be a true master

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:07 AM

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i hate flurry shot

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for one i lose the pointer

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and i cant aim things wihout a pointer, similar to rail situation

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where i constantly miss a lot of my hestia shots

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i tried but usually i gotta do it slower

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:08 AM

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it just feels so weak i can't time it

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:08 AM

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not really

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try to look for shiney

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:08 AM

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it is weak

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that flash is so hard to see amongst what goes on it's too quiet

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:09 AM

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focus on the pointer

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turn on brightness

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good thing the pointer is white

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 7:09 AM

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Side note, styx theme is SO GOOD when not stressing me out

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https://youtu.be/FZb8sTjQ5gU

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hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:10 AM

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i prefer get out tartarus

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also idk about you jex you just call pretty much anything that you dk how to use weak

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instead of learning to use it to maximum

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you gotta learn mate,ive been through that phase of calling things weak as well

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:14 AM

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I just read hades aspect's tooltip again on the spear...thought it lasts a few seconds until just now...

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is that perma or until invul?

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:15 AM

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i swear if this hammer doesn't give me the last upgrade for bow im gonna be madder

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 7:16 AM

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it last for a while

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but it will wear off

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like 10 seconds or so

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:16 AM

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on skelly it seems eternal, hmm

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oh no, nvm

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10 secs or less yea

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dang it 😦

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:17 AM

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welp im suiciding

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:18 AM

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I guess if I learn to time myself based on boss mechanics that 30-60 or whatever extra damage it deals further on is mad

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or just athena call it

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:19 AM

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bow is for pros only

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:21 AM

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bow is easily my weakest link, but i admit i have 0 patience/skill to dodge most mechanics and i just go zerk mode

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:21 AM

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if not it has to be the hardest weapon

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:22 AM

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what works for me best with bow is spamming special

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i use it like a melee weapon

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:22 AM

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you are punished for not using power shot arnt you

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:22 AM

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stand close - spam special

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put debuffs on special

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and use calls

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its just a weaker melee then

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:22 AM

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only power shot i like is carbine

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got so used to the max speed one

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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i did a full run on bow with loading blood in hera aspect

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but its way harder than what i'm usually doing

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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aurther is easy mode

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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I'm trying to farm darkness on 0 heat. Currently running hera aspect bow with 3 stygian soul casts and ice wine

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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you can consistently get that?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:23 AM

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It's kinda like having a bazooka

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:24 AM

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yea i used wine bombs on my hades clear with hera

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but ice-wine

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dang

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:24 AM

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I didn't want extra casts, I wanted increased darkness, but chaos is chaos

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:24 AM

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is there even a duo prerequisete chart?

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:25 AM

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not sure about a chart but u can go look at all duos on the wiki

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it says what's needed if i'm not mistaken

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 7:25 AM

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just check each gods' wiki page

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:25 AM

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oh come on. nobody liked a wall summon? summon casts are cool but there are only so few

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:26 AM

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No duo charts. All the god charts were made by the lovely HeartfulPeach, one of mods on this discord. The written explanation of duo requirements is pretty easy to follow though

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:26 AM

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what would more boons in next update mean? more for those that have less?

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 7:26 AM

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for all

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you might've noticed that very few gods have duo boons with more than 1 god

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:26 AM

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2 cast varients for each god sounds nice

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:26 AM

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What I really want is an ice wine and black out build

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:27 AM

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prob would be a pain getting legendaries though (more boons)

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i don't even care about them im just trying to do the fated stuff

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:28 AM

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Jex, the idea of wall-summons is nice, i like it with posi...but it can't be a posi boon

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has to be some duo or another

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posi can't summon stones!

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:28 AM

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are there any other greek gods?

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:29 AM

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almost too many

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:29 AM

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wasn't elementals greek?

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:29 AM

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like, if we ever get hestia

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:29 AM

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earth fire water air gods please we got 2 of them kinda

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:29 AM

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this wall idea sits well on her

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or wait

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maybe the other dude

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:29 AM

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isn't zag fire

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i want fire boons

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 7:30 AM

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we don't have a fire deity

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:30 AM

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Hephaestus!!

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:30 AM

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but fire and poison are so similar

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:30 AM

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that would be perfect for wall summoning

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and general building

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:30 AM

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trap summons

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 7:31 AM

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you could differentiate fire from poison and rupture by making burning enemies leave a trail of flame, causing all enemies that pass through it to catch fire

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:31 AM

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maybe fire should be like deep rock as in it's temperature

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the hotter the foe the greater the melt

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isn't that how lava works?

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in avatar fire is lightning

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so maybe it isn't greek

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:33 AM

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well there's no god of fire i can recall

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Hephaestus is closest...but he's more of a smith

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he uses fire to build

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in greek mythology that is

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:35 AM

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could have sworn zag had something to do with fire

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based on dialogue ingame

static prawn Apr 17, 2020, 7:36 AM

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goddess of the hearth Hestia may count

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:37 AM

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now i get why there is a dion joke with orph

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Finally I have everything purchased from the contractor....

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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greek myth is so twisted

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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Those gems are tedious to get

static prawn Apr 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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any new Hades dialogue?

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:38 AM

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gems?

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oh thought of wrong thing

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thought you ment styx shop

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too many shops

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can they atlest buff the deals from broker or is he supposed to rip you off

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:40 AM

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He just says his signature one liner

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like he does after everything you buy

static prawn Apr 17, 2020, 7:41 AM

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I remember Hades had something to say recently when I had bought a small chunk of everything for sale and Hades wasn't impressed, leading Zag to ask if Hades would finally thank Zag or something after buying every single thing in the house.

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:44 AM

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seen that one

spare zealot Apr 17, 2020, 7:51 AM

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I think this was my most amusing build yet. Twin fists, Aphrodite legendary

https://i.imgur.com/1k8WecV.png

Imgur

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the final boss just could not move

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I barely did anything but mash attack

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If I had rolling knuckle it would have been even easier, but breaching cross OP

earnest ravine Apr 17, 2020, 7:53 AM

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it's SO silly

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:57 AM

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150% dmg to armor - nice
400% dmg to armor - hell yeah
1k% dmg to armor - nani?!

lethal crane Apr 17, 2020, 7:57 AM

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that's my dream Helios

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don't tempt me

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:57 AM

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Does explosive fire with spread fire essentially only slow enemies

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as far as synergy from explosive fire with spread fire

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 7:57 AM

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are they even compatible?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:58 AM

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im running it right now

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Im just wondering if there's something Im missing

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:58 AM

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i got a non fated duo recently and relized what it does but couldn't use it effectivly

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 7:58 AM

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I was surprised to see they were compatible

turbid needle Apr 17, 2020, 7:59 AM

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Probably.

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 7:59 AM

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attacks that deflect trigger doom to not wait

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that would prob be silly on fists

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the higher doom dmg + that with deflect on main attack and doom on secondary

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i treat fists like a 2 in one

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at base if you dash strike at the end of the punches, you're always attacking

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:03 AM

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like this: https://imgur.com/XZnoFe2

Imgur

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Although athena is not on attack

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the dash still triggers it

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impending doom is useless there

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:05 AM

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that was fast

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:05 AM

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I have a lot of run images saved

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It's a fun build and it also works on rail

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Doom special feels weird

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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it says doom effects deal more dmg

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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anything works with doom special

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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how would that not work

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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but you activate the doom before it has a chance to kick in

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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that's dumb :/

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Doom overall is incredibly good, especially with the delayed and stacking doom passives

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:06 AM

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Unless im mistaken

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:07 AM

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well the stacking doom doesnt work well with specials that cant spammed

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like rail's

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unless i get rockit

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or triple

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or cluster

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:07 AM

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had doom on bomb and deflect on gun. but burst just plain sucks

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:07 AM

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There’s a workaround with that but you gotta get the- yeah

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:07 AM

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but on itself? god i wanna die

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also very beautiful duwang

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chew

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:08 AM

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From experience cluster and doom don’t work that well together

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chew

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:08 AM

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Heres another for ya: https://imgur.com/0tCDdc7

Imgur

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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what's with the chewing?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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i figured only rail works very well with doom attack + stack

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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leggy dire misfortune and athena dash
e🅱️ic curse of agony
Damn that’s a great build

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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since other weapon are too slow to stack

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chew

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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@quartz crow dank jojo memes

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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Fists can work as well doing the merciful end build

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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and they have better alternatives than doom attack

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:09 AM

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dumb memes

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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ok chew

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Honestly, dire misfortune damage is negligible

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Especially with a merciful end build

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Look at this man
And their chronic bad taste

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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yeah 10 damage isnt much which makes me sad

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:10 AM

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they should nerf armor dmg to 500%

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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Also yeah, merciful end looks like it can accidentally cut your stacking real quick

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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isn't that still the highest?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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what if dire misfortune stacks in percentage

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🤔

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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It could be significant if you have multiple sources that can buff doom damage along with impending doom, but at that point, you're kind of defeating the purpose, and not taking advantage of what makes doom so strong

spare zealot Apr 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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honestly I think 1000% damage on armor with the twin fists is a little much

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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That’d probably be too good unless it was a small % lol

spare zealot Apr 17, 2020, 8:11 AM

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I'd just spam it in a clustered mob and oh no all their armor is gone

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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10%

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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it is quite good

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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maybe 800% then 600%

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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But long knuckle beats it

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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roiling knuckle as well

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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meh

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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Yeah
Talos aspect and armor breacher is insane too

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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roiling knuckle is maximum jojo meme

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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there are prequisetes for hammers?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:12 AM

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hmm not a fan of roiling

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no

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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whaaat

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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Good luck

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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what makes roiling strong for you

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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delay removal is strong with roiling

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you could keep punching

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without the little delay after the barrage of punches

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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talos + armor got me my first win

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it was gmode though but who cares

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:13 AM

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making charging your demeter much faster

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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But you can also just dash while holding attack before the punches end

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and it restarts the combo

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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Talos got me my almost first win yesterday
I was this close to beating hades’ second phase

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thiiiiiiiiis close

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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mentioned that earlier

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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stop playing gmode

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ecksdee

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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no

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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What’s gmode?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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god mode

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or what i call

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i rather not play the game mode

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:14 AM

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lol

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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nah

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it's that on aurthur

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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So what’s godmode? Easy mode? Cheat builds?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:15 AM

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hades is not a hard game and if you play heat with god mode on i feel like it kinda lose its purpose

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easy mode yeah since you get less damage

static prawn Apr 17, 2020, 8:16 AM

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checkbox in options menu

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:16 AM

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everytime you dded

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:16 AM

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lol that’s cheating

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:16 AM

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has anyone tried seeing that litterly? (watch your language) how does one watch their language? observe society??

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:16 AM

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Tank the damage like a man that is perpetually reincarnating

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:17 AM

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@hybrid galleon I'd rather take long knuckle, explosive upper and breaching cross before roiling, but I suppose it gives you less things to think about

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:17 AM

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@dense locust each of their own, i love roiling simply because i could charge my 12 hits without any delays, infact, it breaks the require 3 sets of barrage to get to the demeter charge

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:17 AM

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caps at 80% dmg reduction feels like adding dmg reduction does nothing

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as if that is the official cap

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aurther just doesn't need dmg upgrades

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:19 AM

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@hybrid galleon Ill try it out again to see if my initial evaluation of it was a little harsh. I just find holding attack and then dash attacking right around the 4th or 5th punch pretty easy and it still keeps enemies perma staggered

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:19 AM

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you guys using mouse or pad?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:19 AM

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you could keep doing the dash thing too

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Mouse my dude

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Someone on this discord said that 80% was the cap for damage reduction

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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mouse mdude

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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or maybe that was dodge

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I use controller

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Playing with a pad would probably be painful

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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nah

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:20 AM

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Controller sounds good too

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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I use a rock band guitar

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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pad is controller

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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I lie a lot

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Oh thought you meant pad as in a laptop’s trackpad

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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lemme boot up my steering wheel

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to play hades

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Hades in the 90s

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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Sounds fun to me

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

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steam controller

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:22 AM

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press my brakes to dash

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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what does turning do

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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turn zag

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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rip hands unless you don't have to spin

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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Remember to play some shanties too

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:24 AM

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if valve doesn't make SC2 i'll need a new controller

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:25 AM

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pee ass 4 controller

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:25 AM

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just too lazy to cut nails so can't use it rn

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grip buttons are wierd

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ooo

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dashing should be tapping on left pad (no)

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there is so much customization on those things you seem to always have spare buttons

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:30 AM

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I'd like a VR first person version of Hades with a different controller for each weapon

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:30 AM

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Oh god that would be a mess lol

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Imagine how bad constant dashes could get

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:31 AM

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how does one make isometric vr

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:31 AM

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just a lot of dizziness

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:31 AM

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You can only dash if you're able to make it 10 feet within a certain time period

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maybe 5 feet

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that'd be more fair

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:32 AM

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wonder if people tried one button challenge

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:32 AM

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That’d probably slow the game down
Also make athena’s dash blessing almost irrelevant

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:32 AM

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dash only challenge

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:32 AM

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every action in a game is done with one button

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:33 AM

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I don’t think the game’ll even let you do that lol

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:33 AM

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that'd be ridiculous

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:33 AM

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someone did it

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not me

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think its @torpid turret

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:33 AM

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How about something even worse
Twitch plays Hades

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:33 AM

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which twitch thot we are talking about

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:34 AM

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hasn’t heard about twitch plays pokemon
For shame

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:34 AM

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im not into the game which rereleases 8 times

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im sorry

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:35 AM

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everytime a streamer says chat instead of something else, 🤦

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 8:35 AM

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me KappaBloob

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:35 AM

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thanks

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did a google search they basically play using commands

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:35 AM

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Dude twitch plays pokemon was great
Literally a game of pokemon yellow but the chat inputs the commands

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Now imagine that but applied to Hades

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:36 AM

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it's a chat. people arn't chat

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:36 AM

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again pokemon isnt my game so anything about it kinda flew under my radar

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:36 AM

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oh that sounds interesting

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:37 AM

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it would be a chaos

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i would imagine it works for pokemon since one instance of walk means one step or one tile

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:37 AM

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dash left being copy pasted

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 8:37 AM

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but how do you work in a game like hades

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how do you dash strike

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monkaS

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how do you cancel animation

torpid turret Apr 17, 2020, 8:42 AM

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Yeah I did a dash only build, a lot of people have though

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Haelian has one on his youtube if you're looking for one to watch, I didn't record any

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 8:43 AM

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im seeing btd6 "twitch plays" and all these vote bubbles appear. wierd. impossible for this

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Alright only 40k more darkness to max the mirror

torpid turret Apr 17, 2020, 8:44 AM

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Nice man close

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Chaos isn't being nice to me tonight unfortunately

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Change name to strongmirror when that happens KappaBloob

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:45 AM

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Took like 5 runs to get 6k

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Is your mirror not called strongmirror?

restive widget Apr 17, 2020, 8:46 AM

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lol, I am one-shotting the hydra heads - low heat though 🙂

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:47 AM

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The thing is, I don't really use fated authoritys anymore, I just want to unlock everything...

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Though it is fun it just build whatever I feel without worrying about losing

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 8:48 AM

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lol the mirror
i still need moar keys for it

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 8:50 AM

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man, fiery presence and boiling blood are kinda at odds, unless you've got one point in damage control

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 8:54 AM

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@restive widget doesn't matter that much, since hydra heads can only get 30% extra health with heat anyways

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it's a satisfying moment nonetheless

restive widget Apr 17, 2020, 9:03 AM

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oh yes 🙂 and I do have 1 lvl on Calisthenics, though

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:07 AM

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wait last upgrade is 40k?

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i think abyssal is prob used in heated runs

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0 heat i don't notice the slow

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 9:10 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689422090041819154/700634250235346984/20200417120719_1.jpg

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i tried hard to get fully loaded

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but couldnt even get the second shot on cast

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maybe i should use fated authority instead of fated persuasion

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had exit wounds tho

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:15 AM

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u'll get it

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plus u'll win a lot of games with cast builds

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I hate to be a broken record, but Imma say it agane and agane

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whatever build one uses, they can always use a artemis cast

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ESPECIALLY with stygian soul

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:18 AM

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again*

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:19 AM

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ugh, go search it in urban dictionary, u'll see :p

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:19 AM

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crap got the fishing bug again

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no fish ever bites

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:19 AM

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just e it

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u'll be fine

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:19 AM

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i know

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but i want my fishies

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:19 AM

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I'm just worried about what we can do with all those extra resources

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we need the endgame content now, since we drilled through all these one way or another

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:20 AM

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i want a flam eater

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:20 AM

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Funnily, I like this fish almost most

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It's pretty good looking

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 AM

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yeah i feel like my point of burn out is approaching due to nothing left to spend resources on

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 AM

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I'm already close to burnout

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but 40 heat is keeping me from it

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 AM

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and all of my initial goals having been accomplished

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:21 AM

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and the poor optimization that keeps making me dash delay .1s

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:22 AM

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See, I just don't really enjoy 40 heats

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Even though it is my heat goal

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I don't either, it's just a way to let out frustration

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so if i stopped playing 40 heat, that means my frustrations are gone

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and now, the real burnout

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:22 AM

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I've found doing builds and aspects I don't normally try on 20 heat pretty fun and relaxing though

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:23 AM

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I was trying out the crush shot for the first time in 3 weeks on non-stygian soul

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it's really, really fun

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-30% atk and -25% atk/speed in 1 key press

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dmg is just a bonus

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Using abyssal blood?

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:24 AM

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iirc, yeah

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:24 AM

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for the speed reduction

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:24 AM

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boiling, as I said, falls off in late game

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as there's a lot of ways of boosting dmg

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Yeah abyssal isawesome

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and 50% is ultimately negligible late game

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except for maybe artemis builds

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I'm wondering if there is a slow cap

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because it's possible to go over 100%

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:26 AM

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On that note, next time i got blade imma go for crushshot, flurry cast and snow burst on posideon aspect

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Sounds like huge burst dmg with sustainability

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Also, I got lightning rod again today

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it's pretty flexible dmg

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Sounds fun. Doing these 20 heat runs is how I found my love of achilles aspect spear and ice win

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yes ice win

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 AM

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I use achilles on 20+ nonetheless

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it fits my style

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Im gonna try it out at some point

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I've always used guan yu for anything over 20

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at one point i was nearing 2k damage per ice wine though

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 AM

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so whts good about Achilles?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Big boost to cast damage

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and the special can be used for mobility

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 AM

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hm, so ranged sort of play style

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:28 AM

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big boost to attack damage as well but i've only been using it for cast

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since it only gives two instances of boosted damage

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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im struggling with guan yu although im used to doing 16+ heat

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tips?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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guan yu is more on spin or special

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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you can use achilles to compine an attack with a spin

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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I favor special for guan yu

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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i assume you already know that

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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So how do you unlock Arthur? Get to the surface again?

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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i was thinking special too

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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special can be pretty dumb if you get the real hammer for it

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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guan you attack is great though

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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i guess it needs to be upgraded since i die alot somehow

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:30 AM

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it's like aurther

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Pray for charged skewer and get artemis on specia, aphro on attack, and go for the heart rend duo. Athena dash (and call if you get it) and it also opens up deadly reversal

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I use the spin to heal when I feel safe to do so

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 AM

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note that big spin procs 4 times

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 AM

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i think fists are the most useful at base. just needs a range cast

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Oh, yeah, if guan yu isnt level 4 or 5, dont bother

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 AM

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i think i just need to upgrade it, been holding back

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 AM

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there are 4 sizes of spinz

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 AM

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30hp runs feel bad when i reroll all health by default

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:32 AM

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imo spear is best used w/o trying to do normal attack and spin

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spam dash atk, it's good, have a op build

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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small procs 1 before it disappear, medium procs 2, large procs 3 and max procs 4

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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aurther + healing hammer = holy knight

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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so determine what kind of spin do you need

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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even before guan yu, I was always using special

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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since spin can be quite hard to charge

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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special, has good hammers, have good build, can spam

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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explosive special hammer on spear is sexy

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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zag aspect with explosive

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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achilles cast build, op af

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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and then armor bonus or charge felt great

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:33 AM

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@prime berry Killer Queen has already touched the spear

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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i will try this achilles thing

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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oh yeah zag special is something special

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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unfortunately, guan yu doesnt have it

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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explosive is kinda built into guan yu

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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achilles stygian soul, get a 2nd cast stone and artemis cast

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bye any boss

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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yea

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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guan yu special is pretty big

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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was like wdym more range. then trys it out of courtyard
"oh"

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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that range is huge

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:34 AM

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But yeah, achilles cast build also has a lot of potential

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:35 AM

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combined with return 50% crit, u got a pretty good dmg tool

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spammable, even

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:35 AM

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may i say its odd for guan yu attack when its a blade thats for slashing but the game still do the pierce animation

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:35 AM

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achillies spear golf. you got to try it

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now ik what hammer might be good for it

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the charge special

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you can choose where the sucker drops

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 AM

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@hybrid galleon if it's sharp enough, even a brick could pierce

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 AM

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on that note, pardon me for reposting this
https://www.twitch.tv/soledad630/clip/WittyGracefulJamPRChase

Twitch

5 cast stone stygian soul - Clip of soledad630 - Twitch Clips

Clip of soledad630 Playing Hades - Clipped by soledad630

▶ Play video

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it's not even achilles working it's magic

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 AM

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and I would imagine that GY's blade is sharp enough

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 AM

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@lament coral yeah but the design isnt for poking like spears do tho

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its a really flat piece of blade

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:36 AM

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i had like 3 or 4

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Guanyu's blade, from the tale, is supposed to cut through people and armor w/o any resistance

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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that's the seeker right?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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thrusting isnt really the most optimal way to use these kind of blade

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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so yeah it's gonna be sharp

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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yeah its cutting, not piercing by thrusting into it

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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@hybrid galleon Zag might not know

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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actually

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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default armor bonus sounds nice

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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if u thrust it, it might got stuck

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:37 AM

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it doesnt even have a spearhead too

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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I mean the legend hasn’t even happened and zag is a pretty blunt dude

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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unlike most spears

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Is that 3 patroclus dds

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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DD is like multiple armor

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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it's not even a spear 2bh

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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yeah its a glaive

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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~~plus the devs just gave it a design and called it a day~~

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Dragon_Crescent_Blade

Green Dragon Crescent Blade

The Green Dragon Crescent Blade (Chinese: 靑龍偃月刀) is a legendary weapon wielded by the Chinese general Guan Yu in the 14th-century historical novel Romance of the Three Kingdoms. It is a guandao, a type of traditional Chinese weapon.
It is also sometimes referred to as the Fros...

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Also in all fairness neither is the Hades aspect

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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looks like food

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:38 AM

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Or the default Varatha

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:39 AM

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default has a fork

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and tridents are kinda pokey

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:39 AM

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The spear is only a spear in one of its form

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:39 AM

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a god wielding a weapon doesnt have to follow the same mortal rules we know

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:39 AM

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it's not a normal weapon, either

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:39 AM

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they already have aurther

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and break the 4th wall

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:39 AM

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broadsword are pretty good at smashing stuff

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and i mean the whole weight of the damn sword is pretty obvious

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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they might add more weapons after release right?

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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no

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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shrug

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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i think thats a given

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as the tell more stories

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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yeah ig

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Wouldn’t discard getting a weapon with the next patch

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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time will tell

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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but i mean the 6 weapons kinda works too

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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It's not so much breaking the 4th wall as it is adding in other mythology

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:40 AM

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because 6 weapons all are og olympians already

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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we have all the weapon base types for now

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aspects will come before release

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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i thought king aruthor is just a legend

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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yeah

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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drinking challenge

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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So are myths

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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they are drawing from "cultural" or "folk" heroes

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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one shot for everytime jex cant spell arthur

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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that ain't mythology

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alchoul is bad

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im just not letting discord correct

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:41 AM

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What do you guys think they’re going to use for Exagryph though
~~rambo aspect?~~

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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so **apocryphal ** characters

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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what does mythology mean to you?

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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that's the gun right?

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Exa is open design space

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they can use anyone there

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Yeah, exagryph is the gun

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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no need to follow "gun" people

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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moonraker from golden eye

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:42 AM

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i famous gun man

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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im thinking Tesla as my first knee jerk inspiration

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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~~but rambo aspect~~

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Aspect of Glock

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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but tesla is real

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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just a giant glock

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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he has a lot of myths too

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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That’s what the illuminati want you to think Jex

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:43 AM

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Ahh yes, the tale of Glock

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Sir Glock

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:44 AM

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mythology by definition sums up fanfiction

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:44 AM

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@hybrid galleon https://youtu.be/lgcNNyGOghk?t=35

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Kung Fu & Tai Chi Center w/ Jake Mace

Top 10 Kwan Tao Techniques - Guan Dao Kung Fu

It's Top 10 Tuesday at the ShaolinCenter YouTube Channel:

Top 10 Kwan Tao Techniques - Guan Dao Kung Fu. In English we say Kwan Tao or Guan Dao or Guandao and in Chinese we say Yan3 Yue4 Dao1 偃月刀. This weapon is not a Chinese weapon you will carry down the street but it is ...

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neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:44 AM

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Ah yes the zeus x hera incest fanfic
My favourite

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:44 AM

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I looked up some asian movies with guandao, and they all have thrusting moves in em

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Nobel also hits my mind, made dynamite but regretted its use for war and made the peace prize. fits some of their thinking

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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I'm curious about if we'd get some more Olympians aspect

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on new weapons, ofc

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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so the assumption that GY would be bad at poking seems unfound to me

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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Unlikely, unless they added new- yeah

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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greek are the first 3

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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well the last tier seems to be unreleated

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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the last is expanding lore

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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We still haven’t gotten an ares aspect ironically enough

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:45 AM

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last tier is future tales

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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@lament coral depend on what source though

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Yeah, the fourth is future users of the weapon

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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ooo how about a bastion aspect

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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if its hollywood movies you are probably misinformed

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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hestia is a goddess tho

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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did you miss the asian part?

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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i dont think they will do that

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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3k gold inc Pog https://i.imgur.com/Vy444Xl.png

Imgur

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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Since the infernal arms are implied to take different properties and appearances depending in the user

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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why

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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So when I said that the Arthur aspect is a sword from a different mythology, I meant that it was an addition that departed from the greek mythology that the game draws its inspiration from. Just like Guan Yu. It seems the 4th aspect of every weapon will be from mythos other than Greek @quartz crow

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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https://youtu.be/Rd-dhKksLb4?t=84

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Jay Rule

Guandao VS Steel Umbrella | How To Use An Umbrella As A Weapon

Can the Chinese imperial general using his mighty guandao beat the assassin's new steel umbrella invention? Which style of kung fu will reign supreme?
*Disclaimer: The purpose of this video was made to compare different martial arts styles in order to show the audience what w...

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prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:46 AM

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maybe add a hammer later, at best a cameo but they seem to have creative integrity not to re-use stuff

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:47 AM

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I do question what do they mean, thrust with mallet

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:47 AM

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And the dialogue that leads to unlocking the Guan Yu aspect outright says the dude is using Varatha

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:47 AM

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so that's why ryoga fights with an umbrella and bandannas

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:47 AM

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Same with arthur

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 AM

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dadelous hammer looks like cael

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 AM

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i would love to see some faithful real kungfu fights thats not movie because movie is pretty misinformed for some sweet actions bby

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 AM

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@glossy plaza image or bust :p

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 AM

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I mean, as far as acknowledging that the weapon's existent is odd and not really anything anyone has heard of

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which is a lot of fun

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 AM

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western aspect

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 9:48 AM

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guys are boons can only be rolled into certain other boons?

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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@hybrid galleon bruh, I literally linked you a martial artist showing off classical moves

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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It'd be cool if they added a little side room where you had to pull it out of stone if you had the prereqs to do so in order to unlock it

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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@stable onyx rephrase that quesiton

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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like can you reroll demeter boon and get artemis?

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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only the ones that go in the slots on the left i think

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...

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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or only dionysus and athena for example

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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fated authority or persuasion

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:49 AM

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@stable onyx rooms with boons, hammer, poms, gold or hearts can reroll into each other. the gods are random after that

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:50 AM

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You can replace the boons but not reroll them

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:50 AM

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wish hammers poms gold and hearts were seperate

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 9:50 AM

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authorithy

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bcs i rerolled 7 times and i kept getting the same 3 boon

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:50 AM

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granted, the poke is a part of a combination but the fact that guandao was used in that fashion is a good enough excuse for GY to be used that way, too

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:50 AM

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you can get anyone if you rerolll or none

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 9:50 AM

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@naive laurel do I really need to waste time to farm Styx tho? I can buy out Charon's shop entirely with just this much

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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cause darkness gems keys and necter are all resources and they are seperate

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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also, we're arguing about the logic of a video game

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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but no... it gets 👎 a bunch

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Styx is rng sadly

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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bcs i rerolled 7 times and i kept getting the same 3 boon
@stable onyx just luck, though latter zones seems to narrow boons initally in some cases

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Gotta hope you’ll get the sacc quickly

hybrid galleon Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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@lament coral im convinced now im reading a lot of sources

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:51 AM

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@glossy plaza I mean....u said it urself :p depends on if u wanna risk it thonkHappy2

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:52 AM

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im only going in boss rooms in hopes of finding dire snake

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:52 AM

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I also think that GY's combo attack is a reference to classic chinese moves, where they do attacks while in the air

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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@quartz crow ugh, darkness is seperate, gems keys nectar diamond ambrosia T-blood have a trade-up tree

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I'm honestly surprised how you can even fail at Styx tbh, the zone and the boss is easier than Elysium

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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you see that stuff in asian movies all the time, where people fighting are practically flying around

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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@naive laurel what are you talking about

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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anyone have tips for legendary fish?

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got a few but its hard

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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u said those are all seperate

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but they are not

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:53 AM

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@prime berry pray for Poseidon fish boon

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I only got 1, when I had it

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:54 AM

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<0.35s reel in time is though

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:54 AM

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i ment seperate from boons poms hammers gold and hearts

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:54 AM

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also @glossy plaza yes u can, there's builds that's better at elysium than styx

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:54 AM

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you don't need a perfect catch for Chaos fish

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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plus, styx doesn't have patroclus and darkness regen

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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I'm not even sure if it does anything, since those fish always give diamonds and ambrosias

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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legendary fish in chaoes gives tblood iirc

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Styx will destroy some builds, elysium will destroy others

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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i got titan blood from chaos fish

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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wiki says rare is titan blood

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:55 AM

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oh

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I don't remember what I got

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:56 AM

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I've still never caught a voidskate

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:56 AM

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recently got tarterus legendary

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:56 AM

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hah, voidskate is the only Chaos fish I got

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Chaos fish are just so damn rare, and then when you do get fishing chance, there is only a 5% chance of getting voidskate

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nice

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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it's really ridiculous

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Ill trade you hundred knuckle heads for it

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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is perfect catch required for rare fish or does it just increase the chance?

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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what does fishing boon even do?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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perfect catch guarantees rare

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:57 AM

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20% more fish

what does fishing boon even do?
@quartz crow

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Does the fishing boon appear outside of the initial time they give it to you?

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I've never seen it since

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:58 AM

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yes

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its legendary

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:58 AM

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don't ping

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:58 AM

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I think fishing boon also eliminates room appearance minimum requirement

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:58 AM

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What are the prereqs for it

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:59 AM

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sunken

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 9:59 AM

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How do you know this

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 9:59 AM

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https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/hades_gamepedia_en/thumb/9/90/Poseidon_boon_tree.png/800px-Poseidon_boon_tree.png?version=aec7ffd5b2dd86a79313c99f09a1cae3

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 9:59 AM

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wiki, peach's boon tree

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 9:59 AM

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that

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both

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:00 AM

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Ah its the diagram, but the text-only part of the wiki is not changed

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:00 AM

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either im really unlucky or when you reroll a boon the game picks like 3 boons and you can only reroll into those 3 when you use authority

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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it's already fixed in the last patch

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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in general is not that good to reroll boons into others

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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They said that you guaranteed to not reroll into the exact same 3

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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now reroll always gives at least 1 new

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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i find rerolls give me keepsakes

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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That's not a thing

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Also, reroll is mainly for rarity

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at least in my case

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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im talkin about rerolling chambers

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:01 AM

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Yeah in a serious run, I use reroll for when I want a duo or legendary

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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I can't tell how many times i got a epic curse of pain instead of a normal one cuz of the reroll

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ohhhh ok

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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after setting it up in my favor

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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i had athena and a reroll gave her and ive seen that for other gods i think it happens

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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Ahh Im talking fated persuasions

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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There are some boons where rarities are not that important

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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@naive laurel https://i.imgur.com/lwsztvW.jpg

Imgur

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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like its always demeter athena and dio

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:02 AM

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it's like it prioritizes which boons you have so you have a better chance of making that one god build

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

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and aphro artemis

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seperate from each other

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

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Daaamn high roller

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

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what do you know, not removing the coin purse get you better gold RNG

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

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just sell in styx

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

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lol how did you get that much cash

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

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golden touch and chaoes boon, i presume

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:03 AM

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yeah

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:04 AM

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I've got 2100 once, but this is A WHOLE OTHER LVL

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:04 AM

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when you sell duos they give you so much

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:04 AM

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I still haven't found golden touch all that useful unless im doing a for fun run because Im constantly spending gold

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:04 AM

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duo is like 400

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:04 AM

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Also I use residentzag for ....another meaning too not pg to explain in here

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:04 AM

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actually I have no chaos boon

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zero chaos gate spawned this run

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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~~isn’t that just a gachi zagreus~~

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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golden touch is for farming titan blood when you don't want to do heat

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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is your other name midas?

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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golden touch is almost always more total gold than the 100 gold at the start

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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just don't spend not hard

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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@neon fiber ~~Yep u right~~

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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~~nice~~

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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if you need health use darkness regen and try to stay alive till the end of the floor boss and smack all the urns

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 10:05 AM

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also very ironic seeing how strict this server is about certain things
but still very nice

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:06 AM

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also do every single trove you can

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:06 AM

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You need 666 gold leaving the furies to get that 100 gold, but that is for sure doable

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:06 AM

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@neon fiber ~~hej rules are rules~~

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@prime berry imo, the problem is that u want early boons from shops, which is why i eventually ditched golden touch

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:07 AM

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im no expert cause i suck and use god mode but i have some expirience now and selling in a styx room is easy money if you have good stuff (leveling boons seems to increase price too)

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:07 AM

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u may get 1 more boon eventually, but u also might lose 1 dd cuz that 1 boon didn't come early

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:08 AM

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Yeah that 100 gold at the beginning is very valuable

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but if you can manage it, golden touch can be better

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:08 AM

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I sometime do coinpurse start

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in that case, golden touch all the way

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Hmm haven't considered that

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:09 AM

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I always take golden touch, doesn't matter coin purse or not

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:09 AM

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testing im gonna equip a boon keepsake then reroll a boon room and share results on what boon it rolls into if it rolls into a boon (i have rolled a trial before heh)

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:09 AM

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Forcing boons sometimes is less worth than a generic boost to your run

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:09 AM

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it will get more than 100 gold when you get to Styx regardless

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

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Sometimes exploring a seed a little bit can be helpful for deciding this as well

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

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but styx 100 gold is like 50 tartarus gold

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:10 AM

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who should i use?

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can someone pick a god boon keepsake?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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So a god's keepsake makes the first non hermes boon be available to you of the god you choose

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Not gold boon, so it's still a residentzag

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God keepsake is not consumed until u picked that god, iirc

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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That was something I've been wondering

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:11 AM

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u can pick hammer and it won't be consumed

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u can try it, the charge of 1 charge is shown under the keepsake

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

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I was pretty sure that was the case because it appears as a boon on your UI to the left

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

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yep

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

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fine aphrodite cause havn't touched her in a while

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that sounds wrong

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

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Aphro is always safe start

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same as artemis

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one offense 1 defense

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:12 AM

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and no godmode

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

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You take the god of the boon that is somewhat essential to the build you're trying to steer towards

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For example, when I want to do an eris aspect rail focusing on special damage, I start with zeus for the attack boon

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I think that run I got about 4 gold treasures and 3 Erebus gold gate

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

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Because it destroys most of tartarus

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:13 AM

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demeter rolled into heart then pom so doesn't count

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:14 AM

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2nd biome I take artemis if I dont have it on my special yet

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:14 AM

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they should just remove the dmg reduction from aurther or lower it

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:14 AM

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oof no

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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the dmg, aoe, hp, perks are high

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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it's slow

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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you can slow flamewheels and stop souls

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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like, super slow

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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you've been playing with god mode on

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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tfw people actually picked god's keepsake to tunnel their boons

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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im not playing with it rn

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:15 AM

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meanwhile I just run Plume all day

prime berry Apr 17, 2020, 10:16 AM

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God Mode + low heat + Arthur, almost could beat hades blind

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:16 AM

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yeah probably

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:17 AM

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who needs selective boons when you can just get a free 20+% dodge and movement speed, smh

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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thanks for reminding us that sword has 4 aspects

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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uh

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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nope i just got lucky dang it

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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side note on arthur tho, it's simply busted with bracer on

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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sword has 4? I thought it only has 2?

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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Nemesis is perfectly viable, you take that back

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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ok then imma do something dumb max heat to see what it's like

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:18 AM

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20% dodge and movement can be nice, but I'd prefer broken spear point through out the whole run tbh

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:19 AM

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I don't get bracer

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:19 AM

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Ugh, Spear point Imo is worse than holy shield

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:19 AM

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sometimes I get hit and the damage is not reduced

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:19 AM

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cuz it's from the back

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:20 AM

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from the back?

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:20 AM

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oh wait, it doesn't protect from side attacks

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bouldy

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:20 AM

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spear point just makes you invul for 1.5 seconds after an instance of damage

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:20 AM

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Yes but the cd is Pretty bad

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:20 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695769434941554792/700651964542746624/unknown.png lahhhhhh

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:21 AM

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Holy shield is .3-.5s every time u take Any dmg

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:21 AM

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honestly I never liked Spear Point, it always seems kinda useless to me

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:21 AM

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true, 7 seconds is a lot more than it used to be, but it's still strong

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Well, different strokes for different folks

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holy shield has a 20 second cd though

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

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instead of taking damage, just yk, dodge it :3

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Yeah...I perfer hard tanking, and I usually don't take continuous dmg

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

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not all attacks are dodgeable though

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

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Plume mitigate more damage than Spear Point can ever do

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all attacks are dodgeable tho

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

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plus I only take spear later, it opens me up to other boons earlier

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:22 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689422090041819154/700652492563939348/20200417132234_1.jpg

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Finally

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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I've had over 100% dodge, assuming all dodge is additive, and didn't dodge hades spin attack once

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Nice

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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I did it

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Broken spear used to be the keepsake when it had no cooldown

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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same with that, I never need to pick gods specific keepsakes

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Dodge is not additive

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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i have 3 more from chaos already aswell lmao

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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dosge is multiplicative

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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9 casts now

lament coral Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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it still helps a lot in Asphodel and Styx

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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even back when it was the keepsake, I never used it

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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Oh boy, it was broken back then

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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sure the dash back then was less forgiving than now

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:23 AM

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If you have 20% dodge and then 30% dodge from boon it rolls 20% if that fails it rolls 30%

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If I remember correctly

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

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That would mean the more sources of dodge, the better it is.

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

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the worse actually

neon fiber Apr 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Yeah, that sounds great

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

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How

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Depends

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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because It's still dimishing return

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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if you have 4 sources of dodge and an attack had to cycle through 4 chances of dodging

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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but it's way worse than adding them together

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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okay but you said that having more sources of dodge is worse

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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If you have 20% then yeah multiple 20% is okay

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Holy thar ofx is Not

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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vut if you had multiple 10 %

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:25 AM

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sure, let me stack 70% dodge and be basically unkillable :3

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:26 AM

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you wil be better of just getting one 25 %

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because one is a 1/10 chance

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the other one is 1/4

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:26 AM

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If I had second wind, plume, and hermes dodge, I would have 3 chances of dodging the attack assuming that's how the mechanic works

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:26 AM

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Either way

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pure dodge build while it is fun isnt guaranteed to lead you to victory

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Its better as an addon to a already solid build

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:27 AM

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I agree, second wind is one of my favorite boons

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:27 AM

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you would have 3 chances but those are all bad % imo

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:27 AM

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I take the Plume because movespeed is OP

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dodge is just a bonus

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:27 AM

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45% dodge on epic second wind, 20% on a hermes, 20% on a boosted plume

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and second wind also adds movespeed

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:28 AM

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But yeah it can work

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I just feel like plume runes arent as good as if you did all those dodge boons with the butterfly one instead

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:28 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/689422090041819154/700653970280153088/20200417132717_1.jpg

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easiest hades of my life lol

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:29 AM

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I normally end my run at 30% when I reached the final boss so

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Because the more damage you do the faster you kill the enemy the less chances you have to get hit

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:29 AM

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@dense locust say it's 40%, 20%, and 20%. It's equivilant to 1 source of 61.4%

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:29 AM

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Effictively not only speeding up your run but also working as a "dodge" boon

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:29 AM

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just the exit wounds did 1240 dmg with 9 bloodstones lol

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:29 AM

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isn't even on Poseidon Sword

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xD

sly sonnet Apr 17, 2020, 10:29 AM

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shudders

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

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i tried getting in poseidon sword just didnt have the luck lol

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

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you do know Plume and Butterfly is way different right?

quartz crow Apr 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

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i have never tried max heat and im about to shortly just to prove im not chicken and no god mode

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

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to get Butterfly stack, you need to play safer

naive laurel Apr 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

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I need to pull out the calculator for 45, 20, 20 but close to 63%

stable onyx Apr 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

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hera bow is still good with cast

glossy plaza Apr 17, 2020, 10:30 AM

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Plume is just jump in, kill as fast as you can

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do you always jump in melee range, head 1st and think you are a god gamer who will dodge everything with Butterfly?

dense locust Apr 17, 2020, 10:32 AM

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@naive laurel I think there is just a break down in communication. I don't disagree that multiplicative dodge chance is worse than additive, I just misinterpreted something you said earlier