"upgraded rarity"
#h1-builds-and-combat
naive tusk
@chilly violet the animation will be different once combo is ending
quartz crow
does that increase legendary chance?
torpid turret
Are you talking about the yarn
quartz crow
both
naive tusk
It will look like a cross slash
torpid turret
Yarn doesn't increase legendary chance
quartz crow
both so if not one how about the other
torpid turret
What is the other thing you're talking about?
quartz crow
no i mean refreshing necter and that well of charron
torpid turret
Refreshing nectar is yarn in disguise
naive tusk
I thought Yarn of Ariadne / Refreshing Nectar increased the chance for Legendaries to appear on selection screen
quartz crow
th is yarn
dense locust
Compare to a lot of the hammers, an extra +60% damage dash attack is bad
naive tusk
They always appear when I get them curiously enough
dense locust
Especially considering the low base damage of the attack to begin with
quartz crow
just trying to complete fate lists
torpid turret
Yarn basically upgrades one boon in the selection, usually common to rare
quartz crow
and if increasing rarity of next boon doesn't help give a legendary i want to save my money
dense locust
well in that case, by all means take it, but there are just some hammers that are worse than others no matter which way you look at it
naive tusk
How about if you have multiple Yarns?
torpid turret
Haven't tested that much
dense locust
I got 1475 darkness from hades with my lesser darkness upgrades @torpid turret
Wait I forgot again that I had 2 boons from chaos
Either way, i'm almost to my lasted fated persuasion
naive laurel
Welp, getting a exit wounds on chamber 7 might be a good indicator of what rngesus want me to go for
dense locust
Multiple yarns affect consecutive boons but don't stack for one instance of a boon
dense locust
It's like refreshing nectar
And if you 2 yarns and refreshing nectar, then the next 5 boons will be upgraded in rarity
naive tusk
OK, so in this example:
- Heartbreak Strike (common)
- Life Affirmation (rare)
- Sweet Surrender (epic)
If I had 2 yarns, both 1st and 2nd option get upgraded to next rarity
It would appear like this:
- Heartbreak Strike (rare)
- Life Affirmation (epic)
- Sweet Surrender (epic)
dense locust
Wait really? But it only uses up one yarn per boon
naive tusk
Right?
dense locust
I think that's the case despite the number of yarns you have
torpid turret
I can test it now
naive tusk
OKi
torpid turret
Since I already have a route
naive tusk
That'd be great to know for sure how they work
dense locust
I'm almost positive that each yarn has the effect that you illustrated, but that it will affect the next two boon choices you find due to having 2 yarns
spare zealot
heh, the routine inspections pact is essentially free for newer players who don't have the mirror maxed yet. It strictly starts from the bottom regardless of whether you have any darkness spent in them
so that 0 stays a whopping 0
dense locust
But having more yarns has no impact on the next boon you find
quartz crow
"created by heartful peach" don't mind me having all of the tree diagrams on separate tabs for multitasking
naive tusk
@torpid turret Could you please mention me your results? I'd really like to know 
Actually, there's a pic I made combining all of them into 1
It was at the end of my album
If you prefer having only 1 pic open
dense locust
All I know is that having consecutive yarns gives you 2 instances of yarn on your boon display on the left, and that the next boon you find will use one of them and the next boon uses the other
But I think yarn rarity upgrades do stack with keepsake rarity upgrades, or miniboss room boons
naive tusk
@quartz crow https://imgur.com/cIv07cc
chilly violet
I love this thank you
naive tusk
You are welcome, Coconut head
dense locust
And having yarn going into a miniboss room that holds the potential legendary or duo for a boon almost guarantees a legendary or duo, especially if you can reroll it once with fated persuasion
quartz crow
just need to put that on phone thx
@naive tusk does peer pressure mean you need aid or you can't have it?
dense locust
The 2nd tier of boons in dionysus' diagram will only appear if you get any of the ones in the first 1 tier (left most boons)
But peer pressure will not appear of those boons if you chose to get aid
At least that's how I read the diagram. I didn't actually know that
torpid turret
Setting this up is certainly harder than expected, still testing
naive tusk
It means that Aid won't trigger Peer Pressure appearance
Aid will trigger the others' appearance
So if you get Aid, next time you meet Dionysus he might offer Bad Influence, for example
torpid turret
Ok I have the setup finally
naive tusk
But he won't be offering Peer Pressure ever if you only have Dionysys' Aid @quartz crow
Yay
quartz crow
rerolls are expensive. it didn't show up 😦
how come room rerolls don't increase...
is hermes outdated?
earnest ravine
Submitting feedback things is scary, how do people do this all the time
dense locust
1200 darkness from theseus @torpid turret 😄
earnest ravine
And yeah, a House Contractor upgrade later adds that ability.
dense locust
I've got 708% to darkness
naive tusk
@earnest ravine Demeter's Legendary now also requires 2 tier 2 boons
I just found that out a few days ago 💔
earnest ravine
OH! Did that change recently?
naive tusk
After the last patch
dense locust
Whoa big news
dense locust
Are these things laid out in their patch notes?
earnest ravine
The one on the 24'th? Because I didn't see a mention about that.
naive tusk
I had to ask someone else to verify that as I was datamining with them together
It is there
earnest ravine
Am I allowed to edit Feedback posts for clarity or is that frowned on
dense locust
Killing freeze and arctic blast?
earnest ravine
Because that's news to me as well.
naive tusk
- Winter's Harvest (Demeter): increased prerequisites (it should not be offered as early in a run)
torpid turret
Got muted for posting links sorry
naive tusk
Not in the latest patch, but the one before that one
Proxybot thought you were spamming links hehe
torpid turret
naive tusk
Sorry about that, Sink
torpid turret
No yarn, one yarn, 2 yarn
100% positive that they are all the same offering, 2nd yarn wasn't used but changed the offering
dense locust
Gosh I really should read those things more thoroughly. @naive tusk Is it any two tier two or specific ones?
naive tusk
@earnest ravine You can edit it if it doesn't change the overall thought about it
torpid turret
I did RNG manips to make sure it offered the same boons every time
earnest ravine
Oh, so the same one that increased Artemis'. I guess it never really stood out as much, considering it still made sense.
naive tusk
You need Arctic Blast and Killing Freeze together for Winter Harvest to appear
earnest ravine
Yeah, okay, coolio. Just wanted to mention I didn't know about Demeter's new reqs but still think Artemis' are silly
torpid turret
So looks like yarn will upgrade all commons at least
And a 2nd yarn will actually upgrade 1 rare to an epic without using the yarn
dense locust
So yarns effectively change the given boons
torpid turret
No same offering with 1 yarn, having 2 yarns changed cast to special
naive tusk
Wow, it's really strange that the 2nd yarn changed the cast to another boon at epic
torpid turret
I did RNG manips so im positive the 2nd yarn changed the boon
dense locust
wow that is next level interactions
torpid turret
Same enemy pattern every time
earnest ravine
Yarns are really weird value to try and consider during a run, then.
dense locust
Hold on, so just the fact you were holding a second yarn changed the boon type?
torpid turret
Yes
dense locust
Wowza
torpid turret
It did not use the second yarn tho
naive tusk
And it changed it without the yarn being consumed
dense locust
i guess it can change the seed
naive tusk
Thanks for verifying Sink 
torpid turret
I did rng manips so that room was consistent
dense locust
well
torpid turret
Left with more questions then answers
dense locust
if it changed the type of the boon offered simply by holding a second yarn, it's kind of effectively changing the seed just for that small little decision
Sorry maybe changing the seed is not the right language
Because im sure it will do that every time
torpid turret
Yeah it's strange
Just as what boon you pick will change future boon offerings, without changing the route
dense locust
But the mere act of holding on to a buff that shouldn't have any impact on the current situation IS affecting the current situation
torpid turret
Yep man this game is deep
dense locust
Which begs the question, does it also affect future decisions?
naive tusk
It's a shame the 2nd yarn didn't upgrade all boons to epic
torpid turret
A shade turning around changes the next room. Welcome to Hades
dense locust
It'd be kinda cool if you had the decision to use both yarns on one room to doubly upgrade the next boon choice
but that's an unnecessary amount of choice and complication
Now what does 3 yarns do....
quartz crow
dion is done wooo
naive tusk
I actually had 3 yarns and a nectar active together at once one time
I had a good laugh
earnest ravine
Hammers don't, yeah.
unless that also changed in a patch note that slipped by me >.>
naive tusk
Nope, they can't be rerolled
quartz crow
made a mistake. thought i didn't see the reroll icon on em
maybe didn't have enough poms or it doesn't tell you you don't have enough like it does for selling
dense locust
earnest ravine
Absolutely incredible
dense locust
Hade's darkness was worth 2490 XD
naive tusk
Yay
dense locust
6k darkness run, I can finally afford that dumb 4th fated persuasion
And the last contractor offering ❤️
torpid turret
Idk why but Hade's made me laugh pretty hard
dense locust
Ah crap i knew the contractor would hit me with another upgrade
stable onyx
u could have used 3 more bouldies for more darkness 
naive tusk
Neglected Bouldy is a sad Bouldy
dense locust
I know please don't remind me... although each one was only worth 100
But it was also probably worth a thousand happiness points for bouldy....
earnest ravine
He just likes getting out of Tartarus from time to time
dense locust
I know I feel guilty enough already!!
But to be fair to me, I've used him 99% of the time so...
stable onyx
when you farm darkness do you just carry cosmic egg?
or do you get the poseidon trinket for the reward bonus
dense locust
I do personally just for the extra bump in rarity, but it has probably a negligible impact
Ill also carry anything that I haven't leveled to 3 star
rich cedar
@dense locust what rail aspect do you use?
dense locust
Um, well my favorite is eris
And it's probably the aspect/weapon combo i've used more than any other
I like how it increases all sources of damage, making it very flexible in any given run
rich cedar
Alright i Will try it
dense locust
I'd recommend starting with zeus keepsake if you have it for the zeus attack, and then getting rocket bomb as a hammer if you can
naive tusk
Why?
dense locust
Then ultimately, triple bomb as the second hammer, artemis special, athena dash, aphro cast, and then duos for artemis/aphro and artemis/athena
Mostly because its the build I've been able to get the most heat with
naive tusk
I mean, why exactly Thunder Strike?
dense locust
Oh because the constant chain lightnings is great for small mobs
and can also gain jolted and zeus's legendary
lament coral
because Zeus attack doubles your rail attack damage even in common form
dense locust
for even more damage
lament coral
it's 10 damage + 10 from Zeus
for comparison, common Aphro attack is 80%, only 8 damage
naive tusk
That's better
lament coral
and Zeus bounces, too
dense locust
This was the best build I've had, with rocket bomb and triple bomb hammers and eris aspect: https://imgur.com/tjbA2bk
naive tusk
Hello, Zeppman!
lament coral
hello?
dense locust
Was trying so hard to get heart rend but was never allowed
naive tusk
I don't like to take Eris because I never get Rocket Bomb when I play with it
dense locust
I like eris the most because even if you don't get rocket bomb, that 60% increased damage works for anything
I've had a poseidon call as my main damage source before with eris
lament coral
I used to run Eris at lower heat, but past 20 I found myself using Zag more and more often
no need to waste time lobbing the special, just keep shooting
naive tusk
My fave is Hestia 
I like to run with Zag Aspect as well sometimes. Love watching bolts and green arrows fly around
dense locust
Hestia is a ton of fun but I just can't seem to make it work for 32s
Eris will just always have a soft spot in my heart because over numerous runs with it, despite the boons and hammers I get with it, I was usually able to make it work even though I didn't get anything close to what I was hoping for
quartz crow
oh no...
is it just me or did this test prove true
does guan yu with reduced healing modifer reduce the healing?
or am i just killing stuff so fast the healing doesn't get enough dmg ticks
it's 1 healing per tick of dmg. and i maxed the thing out to test and i could heal so was it .5 or 1?
earnest ravine
That one, more than likely. It's only 1 per hit.
If you wanted to be extra sure, you'll see it heals 1 per hit even with maxed out Lasting Consequences.
quartz crow
100% healing reduction means none or half?
lament coral
I used to believe in Delta Chamber, but practice has shown that it just doesn't measure up to Infinity
100% means no healing at all
earnest ravine
Guan Yu is entirely unaffected by Lasting Consequences, so feel free to roll with it.
lament coral
you can still heal using built-in abilities, like Guan Yu's spin or hammers, like sword's Cursed Slash and fist's kill on special
lament coral
it's basically impossible
torpid turret
Time for a dash only run
lament coral
oh, did you mean maxed out LC?
dense locust
Dash only run with poseidon dash I could totally see
But obviously it depends on heat and what not
Maxed out pact with guan yu starts you out with 25 hp... one trap and you literally die
but that's probably also the case with any aspect/weapon combo
because you effectively don't get any mirror upgrades right?
torpid turret
https://i.imgur.com/xSrkyHt.jpg Yeah its happening strongdong
torpid turret
It is haha
torpid turret
Allowing things like pos wall slam, legendary, pressure points etc
Can only attack with dash tho, so no revenge boons
dense locust
Okay, I imagine by styx, you'll be clearing rooms in seconds
torpid turret
haha yeah
dense locust
Whats the dash damage as of now
torpid turret
Hopefully see Eurydice so I can get heroic dash and an extra dash
dense locust
Hades will be annoying but not all that difficult
torpid turret
My hermes was only common
dense locust
Hmm, ideal hermes would be the +3 dashes and then maybe evasion?
torpid turret
102 base rn
dense locust
haha
torpid turret
lvl 5 before even leaving tartarus haha
dense locust
And then you're also darkness farming?
torpid turret
Yes since nothing else from chaos will help this build 😛
torpid turret
Already got 2 darkness chaos boons and another light of ixion rn
dense locust
I gotta try that next run. My darkness farming build last time was pretty much poseidon dash for damage but not exclusively
torpid turret
+125%, +197%, and +250% awww yessss
dense locust
I'd love to see a crit
I'm really enjoying these darkness farming runs just for the sole reason of being able to build whatever silliness I want
dense locust
Here's hoping
torpid turret
Rip nope
3 dashes is alright, but I'll prob sell it before elysium so I can get offered a better one
cunning urchin
Hades is way too easy like this. https://imgur.com/a/9a0UwVm
dense locust
Yeah I will often sell a common hermes dash boon
Especially if I can afford to get greedy
@cunning urchin That looks like a lot of fun
cunning urchin
Maybe on higher heat. He actually died too fast, it wasn't satisfying lol.
quartz crow
ok so you have to finish the game to raise the bounty level?
shadow oriole
yeah going all in on Poseidon cast is amazing. bosses just melt
quartz crow
meanwhile i barely beat the game kind of
so if i want more stuff i need to do that...
guess it's better to farm necter then
necter and keys
cunning urchin
For the keepsakes? I would try to get all of them yeah, that helps a lot. But more than that I think just focus on learning attack patterns and how to use the weapons.
torpid turret
1003 darkness from a trove lmfao
cunning urchin
Nice.
torpid turret
No hermes that elysium rip
rich cedar
Rip
dense locust
I love how having the mirror trait for healing with darkness is just absurd
when you darkness farm
stable onyx
i feel like darkness healing is always good compared to getting 3 hp at the end of each stage
torpid turret
I have boons to sell, so I can buy the 500 one
Had to only take boons that do not give me any damage lol
torpid turret
+2 dashes baby i'll take it
quartz crow
stronger enemies = faster death resets
but what even is the max ammount of dmg that can be dealt in a single blow?
dense locust
More enemies = more gold?
quartz crow
trove enemies drop gold
torpid turret
Lmao killed tiny vermin so fast with this build
quartz crow
you can enter the special area with heat that goes over the meter right?
cunning urchin
Death resets?
dense locust
Trove enemies don't drop anything; the speed in which you defeat a trove challenge determines how much it drops
quartz crow
i could have sworn they drop gold
torpid turret
Enemies have a small chance to drop some gold, really not gonna make a big difference for the time its going to add to a run
Suicide runs for what?
shadow oriole
to get a better seed
quartz crow
reseting the house
dense locust
Turn down for what?
quartz crow
i only beat hades once so it's going to be a pain if i have to keep on beating him to increase heat level
cunning urchin
I'd much rather just take whatever challenge comes my way, but that's just me.
Well. We've all been at the point where we only beat him once. You'll get there.
quartz crow
15keys for blood sounds more efficent to me
but as you progress more terrible deals show up
now it's a 1/10 chance
ugh
torpid turret
@dense locust He actually went down pretty quickly
dense locust
@stable onyx On a normal run, it's tricky but the 3hp per room is probably the safe bet. I was commenting about how when you are doing a darkness run where every bit of darkness you find is multiplied by 6-8 times that ever time you find darkness, it's pretty much a full heal
quartz crow
i just want nyx to talk about aurthur already
torpid turret
1730 darkness
dense locust
@torpid turret Show final screen
quartz crow
or do i need to upgrade guan atleast once
dense locust
with boons if you can
torpid turret
I already went back to house sorry
dense locust
ahh np
torpid turret
I only had Epic dash and the wall slam creates a blast one
Unfortunately didn't see much pos that run
cunning urchin
15 keys for Titan Blood? I get 2 in maybe 20~30 minutes just clearing the game once. 
torpid turret
It can be way better
torpid turret
Wave breaker I believe
dense locust
Yeah
quartz crow
how th do you get 2
torpid turret
Like 6k darkness that run
cunning urchin
1 from the Furies and 1 from Hades.
dense locust
@cunning urchin The thing about that is blood can only be acquired by beating a boss with weapon or heat that you haven't done it on before, whereas you can collect keys without having to beat a boss
cunning urchin
Yeah, I understand that.
quartz crow
you farm gold only to find you get 50% value
torpid turret
You only finished a run once, you don't really have to worry so much about collecting stuff so soon
Get some more runs under your belt, it'll come naturally
quartz crow
nah
dense locust
@torpid turret Yeah darkness runs are a lot more fruitful than I thought. I suppose I was discouraged at first because I only tried it a couple times and never got lucky with chaos
cunning urchin
I think early on Darkness and Gems are way more helpful than Titan Blood.
torpid turret
@dense locust Yeah, I'm doing the dash run again haha
stable onyx
what happens when you activate god mode?
torpid turret
No point suiciding a run really lol
dense locust
@torpid turret lol gonna do a different god's dash this time or just try and get the perfect poseidon dash
stable onyx
do you still get rewards?
quartz crow
yah
torpid turret
Just to buy stuff in shops, you are worrying about all the high level resources way too soon
quartz crow
heard it doesn't work in hell mode
torpid turret
Poseidon again since I only got 2 relevant boons that run
dense locust
God mode is great if you're finding the difficulty of the game frustrating. The beginning of the game can also be the most frustrating because you're at your weakest and the most limited in your choices for your build so it's a great way to farm a bit until you're a bit stronger, and then can turn it off
cunning urchin
Is there a list of titles you can get for clears and what they mean?
dense locust
There are titles you get for a clear that are acquired if you satisfy the requirements
quartz crow
im just using it till it gets to 80%
dense locust
IDK if there is anywhere that lists what those requirements are though
cunning urchin
I only ever get Favored & Envied.
torpid turret
I got boon purger last run haha
dense locust
Hmm, no idea what brings about that one. I know Death Defier is earned by using at least 5 DDs in a completion
stable onyx
i had 6 slots once lol
dense locust
Haha that makes sense given your restrictions. I don't think I've earned that one yet
stable onyx
2 legendaries from chaos same run
dense locust
That's extremely rare
Should have its own title
but you don't need more slots to earn Death Defier
stable onyx
yea
dense locust
Just need to have died 5 times
There's also master fisher
Which im guessing is earned by perfect catching 3 times in a run
cunning urchin
Apparently getting 20 different Boons and clearing the game gives you Favored & Envied. All my clears that have 20 or more Boons have it, the ones that have less don't.
dense locust
That makes sense to me
quartz crow
is it just me or did the shop prices get expensive
dense locust
Maybe you have the heat on that increases shop prices?
quartz crow
2 titan blood for one ambrosia? could have sworn it was 1 for 1
torpid turret
That shop is designed for excess resources being traded for needed resources
dense locust
As far as I've been playing at least
torpid turret
Not really recommended for a new player to waste their resources on, unless the deal is a good one
quartz crow
so i have to reach the end in order to stinking raise heat
wish i didn't scatter all those upgrades
it shows im missing an artifact
wth is it
quartz crow
it's after ambrosia
dense locust
When I started out, I used the poseidon aspect on the sword a lot because the aspect with just 1 blood is a huge upgrade vs a lot of the other weapon's level 1 aspects
stable onyx
it might be the onion
quartz crow
i just know guan has the best survivability
cunning urchin
My easiest clears have all been with Poseidon on low heat. Just single-mindedly focusing on cast, and maybe getting a good Special/Dash/Call.
quartz crow
meanwhile i wasn't minmaxing for variety
cunning urchin
Guan Yu can be difficult to use in my opinion.
stable onyx
you need the faster charge up to use the heal effectively
quartz crow
meh. I've gotten to styx with it yet i think i had godmode at the time
dense locust
Exactly, guan yu is awful until you pump like 10 blood
quartz crow
you do relize a small spin is going to give the same healing right
dense locust
Whereas poseidon sword gains an ability that can be very strong with cast builds after just 1 blood
stable onyx
arthur is by far the best sword
cunning urchin
Poseidon just lets you spam casts from afar, pick up ammo, cast again. Easy.
stable onyx
that sword slaps with crit on your attack
cunning urchin
Sometimes use your special to get your ammo back.
dense locust
Its a great choice to get up a few heat levels
quartz crow
how do you get it though
earnest ravine
Instructions are pinned in the Spoiler channel.
quartz crow
nobody mentioned it was in pins or i didn't pay attention. could of sworn they said it was being discussed
dense locust
level 1 poseidon aspect sword is especially strong with the artemis boon Exit Wounds
Unlocking arthur is pinned is spoilers
earnest ravine
Nah, just was trying to inform! Since it came out relatively recently, the devs gave a guide on how to unlock it and pinned it.
quartz crow
proceeds to check how many blade aspects are filled...
none
i can level posidon once
what's that gonna do?
20% total?
dense locust
It gives you the ability to dislodge casts from an enemy by hitting them with your special
stable onyx
i say farm up some titan blood and use arthur sword in its full glory
dense locust
You can, but like I was saying, it's one of the best aspects at level 1
cunning urchin
Upgrading it gives extra cast damage.
earnest ravine
Good thing you like Fists, at least? They're pretty fast to go up heat levels with. If you focus on Heat aspects that don't tangibly affect your gameplay (mainly shop prices, trap damage, or mirror talents if you don't have a lot invested), early bounties are easy to knock out.
dense locust
Compared to other aspects at level 1 on all of the weapons
quartz crow
oh lvl 1... not lvl 2
stable onyx
demeter fists are too good
quartz crow
talos is good at lvl 1
earnest ravine
Talos ones are also super fun
stable onyx
she must be good at fisting back in the day
quartz crow
here's the thing
lament coral
rich cedar
Bow of zag best aspect
quartz crow
you know those rock stomping thwomp wanabes?
stable onyx
i liked the chiron aspect for bow but its not really good for clearing encounters but good for bosses
dense locust
Poseidon aspect sword with any cast that sticks in enemies and the boon Exit Wounds is a strong combo
quartz crow
have you seen procs hit them when they are flying? (doom dion...)
earnest ravine
So yeah, in that case? I'd say try and farm up early bounties as you can. If you HAVE to, just beat the first boss on slowly rising heat and die in Asphodel. I'm pretty sure it will give you the first rank of titan blood every time.
And yeah, I have.
They can die mid air.
quartz crow
do you know what talos special does to them?
earnest ravine
It happened once on the miniboss version and I got really confused
quartz crow
it hits them midair
dense locust
It's a pretty minor interaction ultimately
quartz crow
it's aimbot
dense locust
so i don't see any reason of removing it
earnest ravine
The pull is inconsistent even on the same enemy type, it's kinda weird. I'm not sure why some get hit sometimes and not others.
torpid turret
@dense locust Got pressure points and hunters mark this time haha
quartz crow
so if you could keep pulling a lout away from you lol
dense locust
@torpid turret Praise Hades
quartz crow
and you can use that to pull em into traps (havn't tried) and pull elysium souls away from where they are going (have tried)
dense locust
@torpid turret Time to sink poms into pressure points
dense locust
@torpid turret Are you taking any boons for attack/special, etc. or rerolling them when it doesnt give you a choice?
torpid turret
Trying to avoid it
But if I have no choice I take a boon that doesnt effect the build then sell it later
quartz crow
norm dash for armor and special for dmg
also worth noting you can oneshot armored enemies since it's 2 hits
idk if it was artemis but pretty sure default oneshots skulls
armored skulls
nvm it could've been family fav
earnest ravine
Sounds about right, if the first hit strips the armour entirely?
Lines up with what I remember from my own runs with that hammer.
quartz crow
it's just special not dash strike
the dash strike armor strips
unless it has the same hammer for each one
it could prob be used in speed running
so annoying when an enemy is far away. but with talos just bring em to yah
torpid turret
Not very viable for speedrunning
Can get a sub 10 but it just doesnt output enough damage
quartz crow
😦
wouldn't pierced butterfly be mandatory if you were trying to do all punishments maxed
earnest ravine
Still very fast by a lot of standards, but speedruns are kinda off the wall right now.
And not really, most people would want to manipulate the RNG as much as they can with god keepsakes.
(i still use butterfly though because i'm not that hardcore about my run seeding, I'm just there to get clears)
dense locust
With speedruns you have to consider what build can output the most damage the fastest given a near ideal build
quartz crow
saw a video covering aspects like guan yu and listed names of who is insane with it. one of them was that guy that speedruns all sorts of strange stuff
dense locust
Some boons/hammers are great in any given run
torpid turret
Yeah haha we've hit a point where sub 10 is not very fast anymore
earnest ravine
Current WR is like, 4 minutes or something right? Or did we get sub 4 a few days ago?
dense locust
3:59....
torpid turret
3:59
torpid turret
When we started my competition the WR was 6:02
By the end 3:59 and a lot of new PB's
quartz crow
tempted on seeing how well he used it but then I'll just get jealous
dense locust
It's just awesome that there are aspects to this game that can create their own communites
earnest ravine
Watching speedrunners is honestly a good habit, if you're a visual learner.
I picked up a lot of tricks and interactions from seeing other people play so I had a leg up when I started.
torpid turret
The comp went incredibly well I'm really surprised
dense locust
I'd imagine even finding seeds is the main goal for some players
quartz crow
i don't like copying
torpid turret
Started with a $175 prize pool and a nice gamer made it a $275 prize pool
earnest ravine
It's not copying, more giving you a chance to see things that enemies do or that players can do that you can't really process when trying to play yourself.
Not saying "only go for speedrun builds" but more "learn the habits and patterns that enemies and players can do through observation".
quartz crow
observation skills stink i keep rewinding shows
dense locust
It's all about how perfectly can you beat a given seed vs other players, and it involves a different set of skills
earnest ravine
Like heck, watching a friend play is how I was able to figure out each melee attack actually just gives off a small projectile, and that's what you're able to reflect with dashes. Fixed his timing by loads when I pointed it out.
cunning urchin
This is getting really good. Now to hopefully pick up Scintillating Feast and Ice Wine. https://imgur.com/a/nKKarGn
quartz crow
till i feel i read every word and understood it and didn't miss anything important
torpid turret
I speedrun waaaaay different to how I casually play
quartz crow
thought the markers were for saving a preset but nope 😦
torpid turret
It's a whole other world tbh
quartz crow
isn't speedrunning all about reflexes
torpid turret
@dense locust Terrible run but 1836 darkness final
dense locust
I'd say its also about finding the ideal route to kill enemies as they spawn
in every single room
quartz crow
I can't even beat clubstep in GD
dense locust
@torpid turret did you see my post with nearly 900% to darkness?
quartz crow
then you watch other people play and they make wave go straight
torpid turret
I do not believe so
quartz crow
inhuman i say
torpid turret
3 more Fated Authority and I'm done with the mirror wooooo
dense locust
@torpid turret https://imgur.com/Q3vISvQ
earnest ravine
As far as I can tell, while having faster reflexes helps for this game, it's a lot more about decision making and knowing enemy patterns than being able to do, like, 3 frame tricks.
earnest ravine
like you're gonna be nearly button mashing to go WR pace because you're blazing through rooms. But that's only after you've made yourself able to read the stuff to the point you CAN go that fast. If that makes sense.
torpid turret
It's a little more optimized currently with the WR being sub 4
It's routed Tartarus, Asphodel, and Elysium
quartz crow
It would be torture if they brought bastion's dual pistols to here
torpid turret
So technical skill cap is much higher than it was previously
quartz crow
higher skill cap means bigger audience?
torpid turret
Being able to pull off the route that far into the run is not an easy task
earnest ravine
Yeah. The whole seeding thing makes it a lot tighter but it's still like, knowing how to kill the enemies in a certain way in order to generate those rooms.
quartz crow
fire as fast as you pull the trigger make people look like robots
earnest ravine
the fact that y'all've routed out to Elysium is STILL ridiculous though
and i commend everyone who can do it that far
torpid turret
I personally enjoyed speedrunning a lot more before it got routed that far
dense locust
@torpid turret Hades gave 2490 I believe with that run
torpid turret
It's quite the grind now
Now that the competition is over I think most of the runners are taking a break lmao
Everyone went hard during the comp
quartz crow
routed?
dense locust
Like I said, Speed running is an aspect of the game that some people find very enjoyable and that's awesome.
earnest ravine
When's the Torture% competition
dense locust
It's not for everyone but it's great that its there
earnest ravine
And @quartz crow manipulating how rooms spawn in a generated run by killing enemies or doing certain actions to guarantee certain paths.
torpid turret
The next competition I host will most likely be something new to encourage strategizing not routing, although it may come down to routing in the end anyways
Twin Fists is an option, or the next released aspect while it's new and unknown
earnest ravine
It's a lot of weird under the hood knowledge, but if you give up and restart a run repeatedly, you'll probably start mapping out how that run can go conciously or subconciously.
dense locust
I just got Perfect Clear title, which I assume is beating hades without taking damage
quartz crow
has anyone achieved max heat?
earnest ravine
Someone apparently did last patch. I don't know if it's happened since Nighty-Night hit, though.
torpid turret
Anyways I'm off for the night, have fun lads
quartz crow
title?
earnest ravine
Night, Sink!
torpid turret
If you haven't already I highly recommend watching the 3:59 run on speedrun.com
earnest ravine
uh, when you clear a run, you get a special little accolade sometimes depending on actions you've taken during a run.
dense locust
@torpid turret I imagine it's difficult to find a happy medium there considering how much of speed run meta comes from taking the fastest time and then making slight changes to improve it
torpid turret
It is amazing
quartz crow
oh... speedrunning doesn't use pact does it
torpid turret
@dense locust That's why I want the comp to be centered around something new, because there won't be a clear winning strat right off the bat like the last comp
earnest ravine
It does!
earnest ravine
You use Forced Overtime to max because it increases spawn rates and Tight Deadline because it's free heat. You also use, uhh. Extreme Measures I think 2 because that Hydra fight is still faster without Hydra skip.
torpid turret
No god mode is not allowed
quartz crow
why?
torpid turret
Tight Deadline stops survival rooms from appearing in a run @earnest ravine
dense locust
Hey speaking of which, did you ever find out if FO actually increases spawn rates?
earnest ravine
OH. I forgot about that aspect, too, whoops!
torpid turret
And Extreme Measures 2 moves hydra heads closer together so still faster even though hydra skip is axed
earnest ravine
I knew there was some reason beyond free heat but couldn't think of it properly
torpid turret
I did not, I looked but couldn't find any info
quartz crow
or does godmode make it slower
dense locust
I imagine it's still ideal because enemies will move towards you faster
torpid turret
God mode is just against the leaderboard rules
earnest ravine
it sure feels faster than my runs without FO for my lower heat weapons, but that could just be confirmation bias.
quartz crow
what leaderboard :/
torpid turret
The speedrun.com leaderboard
torpid turret
As is the case with most games, using stuff like that wouldn't count as truly beating the game I suppose
Ruin the fun? I haven't had more fun on a game until I joined the speedrun community for this game
earnest ravine
That's a little rude.
quartz crow
you make a level in levelhead (a mario maker inspired game) and then the speedrun guy takes the top place and nobody can beat them
dense locust
I fail to see how that ruins the fun of the game in any way whatsoever
torpid turret
Not seeing the relevancy
dense locust
Speed running in Hades is a completely different aspect of the game and has little to do with the inherent goals that SGG has built into the game
quartz crow
well yah but still... they arn't human
dense locust
It's apples and oranges. I know some speed runners that were approaching 4 minutes with the meta rail build but still hadn't hit 20 heat with any weapon
They just practice a lot
quartz crow
sounds like overkill
lament coral
that's speedrunning for ya
earnest ravine
If they find it fun, that's what matters.
quartz crow
is there an autistic speedrunner?
lament coral
the current record is 3 minutes and something
dense locust
That's my entire point. The aspect of speed running is almost like its own game and has little to do with the intended way of playing Hades
earnest ravine
Prrrobably? I know of a lot in the Tetris community because of the circles I run in.
dense locust
It's 3:59
earnest ravine
I dunno about the Hades community. Most of the time that's not something you ask because it ain't relevant, usually.
quartz crow
cause autism vs no autism is supposedly different thought process
earnest ravine
and i know for sure I ain't good enough to call myself one lmao
dense locust
I have no idea how you brought autism into this conversation
untold vortex
yes, there's plenty Jex
someones conditions whether they be physical or otherwise is kinda irrelevent with speedruns tbh
quartz crow
it requires thinking
dense locust
If you apply yourself towards a specific goal and practice efficiently and effectively, you'll get better
earnest ravine
Please think very very carefully about how you're going to try and continue that line of thought.
quartz crow
I'm autistic so if nobody is autistic that speedruns successfully it drops hope down into Tartarus
torpid turret
Not that I know of
earnest ravine
Ah! Okay, that does clarify. You should be fine, just try and find a method that works well for how you enjoy playing. It's why I latched on to the Zeus shield aspect so hard. It was my niche and I burrowed in.
dense locust
Speed running has a very clear and specific goal so practicing to reach that goal is very much obtainable by people that apply themselves
torpid turret
^
earnest ravine
Autism isn't a detriment in general, but this game's got enough room in it to not be concerned.
torpid turret
Anyone can speedrun this game if they wanted to
earnest ravine
allll the time
quartz crow
it's soooo satisfying
dense locust
Speed running is something that some people find extremely gratifying, while others find it extremely tedious
torpid turret
I'm currently taking a break from speedrunning to 100% my save (until new content is added)
quartz crow
meanwhile i keep switching games i only 100%'d 2 both on wii. NSMBW and A boy and his blob (remake)
dense locust
Yeah, 100% all of the unlockables in this game is another goal that many find very gratifying
torpid turret
Gonna have to level all my keepsakes soon
dense locust
Getting to a certain heat for every weapon is another goal people find gratifying
torpid turret
Then 32 heat all weapons. It's getting real
quartz crow
100%ing hellmode must be the best
cunning urchin
pew pew pew https://imgur.com/a/m50XzpD
dense locust
@torpid turret I've been using darkness farming to level up all of the keepsakes I never use
torpid turret
I need to start
3 rerolls left but they are monumentally expensive, so I'm sure I have time
quartz crow
i want to use godmode until i can beat hades consitantly
dense locust
I got my 4th fated persuasion tonight. 25k darknes....
cunning urchin
Frost Flourish and Trippy Shot will be heroic soon too. This is fun.
torpid turret
I have 4 persuasion / 7 authority atm
dense locust
@quartz crow That's a great strategy, and you'll also unlock resources to makes Zag stronger along the way
earnest ravine
I did that for a while, and there's no real shame to it. As long as you're having fun and don't focus on the deaths, it feels less like... Iunno, a grind, when trying to learn the boss patterns? It's a tool to be used if you want it.
quartz crow
the trick to success is picking the right upgrades isn't it
earnest ravine
Yeah!
Mid run, it's all about desicion making. Pretty much any run is clearable, until you get to like 32 Heat at which point you've got full right to cry foul on RNG.
dense locust
Eventually, when everything is unlocked, a lot of strategy is involved in picking the upgrades you want and the detriments you want (from your heat level)
cunning urchin
That and knowing attack patterns, so you don't get hit needlessly.
dense locust
I'd argue the right to cry foul on RNG is heat 36, but I've been trying to find exactly where it is
earnest ravine
(looking at you routine inspection and Approval process)
Pretty much as soon as you have to start putting those on is when I'd say it's more RNG than not.
dense locust
But it's true, at 32 heat and below, you have a lot of options to manipulate RNG in your favor that it doesn't feel like much of a detriment at all
Which is an aspect of this game that I love
quartz crow
you guys ever try the hardest achievment in bastion?
earnest ravine
The hardest achievement is living with yourself if you ||leave Zulf behind||
earnest ravine
Half-jokes aside, the idols weren't really a thing I did when I was playing. Didn't appeal to me as much as the Pact does nowadays.
earnest ravine
Here it feels like it adds to the gameplay and changes it, instead of feeling mainly like a challenge.
quartz crow
regen + invulnerability phases + deflect chance
dense locust
@torpid turret lol yeah im at the same, 4/7
dense locust
Darkness farming is going faster than I thought it would
quartz crow
ive been using dark thirst for variety
it's really nice having rng choose what you use
earnest ravine
Having the game decide the weapon, at least, does narrow it down somewhat if I feel like I haven't done a non-favourite-weapon run in a while.
earnest ravine
Yeah. You tell it to pick a number between a certain range and it does it
quartz crow
found an app to do that
torpid turret
Yup I just let it pick a random number and use the corresponding aspect
quartz crow
be nice if you could have an rng preset and you just roll each one
instead of rolling 50/50 for each mirror talent you roll 50/50 x12 and just use what numbers show up as they appear. one button press vs 12 min
dunno if someone made a program that does that
but not just 1/2 1/4 for aspects and 1/6 for weapons
earnest ravine
There are, yeah. random.org even ahs a coin flipper.
So you could just say "hey flip 12 coins for me" and go.
quartz crow
like a sequence of rng in the form of a preset
lament coral
why would you wanna do that?
quartz crow
just cause
earnest ravine
Can't argue that
lament coral
but it'd be terrible
earnest ravine
Uhh, that site that Sink and I suggested pulls actual randomized data in order to give results, and you can have it do repeated rolls if you want in one click? But I dunno if that app you found can.
I have done more stupid things in this game for a laugh, tbh, having randomized mirror talents isn't the WORST thing in the world.
dense locust
My favorite thing lately has been to choose aspects for weapons I very rarely play and do a run on 20 heat with them and see what happens
lament coral
being able to customize the modifiers, it can't be that bad
dense locust
Never realized how fun an achilles aspect spear cast build could be
Man chaos hates me this run...
lament coral
is it really? I always found it egregiously annoying to use, having to do the stupid fly around thing before throwing two casts
dense locust
Spent like 5 keys trying to get +darkness% and still nothing
lament coral
Poseidon always seemed better
earnest ravine
The jump is a really nice mobility tool and the bonus damage is no slouch.
cunning urchin
Yikes, that was close. New title too. https://imgur.com/a/qIZeEa0
cunning urchin
A bit, but also it became difficult to see lol. Also Hades doesn't like to stay in Festive Fog, so my DPS wasn't as good as elsewhere.
And I forgot to switch back to Death Defiance after getting one clear with Stubborn Defiance for the prophecy.
(Close Call, Though) has priority over Favored & Envied, it looks like. Had 21 boons but got the former title.
No more death defiance and less than 5% HP? Something like that probably.
dense locust
Yeah stubborn defiance is a death wish ironically
opal bay
Favored & Envied is for when you do a lot of God Trials though.
cunning urchin
Oh is it? I just saw that I only got it on clears when I had 20 boons or more.
But I guess that makes sense.
opal bay
yeah you need to do about 3 of them I think
dense locust
It's ironic that I just did a 0 heat fists run trying to darkness farm and was upset to find the standard blood, diamond, ambrosia, and blood...
weak rivet
Huh i had a very heavy finish last night but i dunno if i got close call, though
I had no dd's left and like 13 hp
cunning urchin
Did you get a different title? What was your max HP?
weak rivet
Had triple rocket though, absolutely melted the third boss
Uhh
I'd have to get out of bed and check
It was at like 1 am i was half asleep
cunning urchin
Hrm, all the button prompts show as DS4 buttons now, but I'm using a Xbox One pad for Hades. Made a bug report.
quartz crow
ruthless vs great reflex?
weak rivet
Yeah just checked i didnt get any titles
Ohp Orphy is singing lament i guess i can keep the game open
cunning urchin
They're both good. I think it depends on the build you want.
quartz crow
yay i think i got it
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695769434941554792/699561740245008384/unknown.png
cunning urchin
I tend to prefer Ruthless Reflex for melee, and Greater Reflex for long range builds.
cunning urchin
Yeah, it's really good. But sometimes I'd rather have the second dash for greater mobility. Ruthless Reflex + extra dashes from Hermes is amazing.
cunning urchin
Not getting extra dashes can be pretty tough though.
dusky grove
i mean after defeating Hades for like 20 times, you will form nerve'o steel thou
cunning urchin
24 and I was sweating on the last one lol.
cunning urchin
Hmm. What's an interesting Zag sword build to try.
stiff flume
just normal sword? 🤔 hard to make something really interesting with that
i think someone in here goes poseidon stuff with it somehow
cunning urchin
Athena on attack?
stiff flume
last time i ran normal sword i just went artemis attack and got the hammer that gives you rapid attacks
clear dome
yes, but i think everyone does thst
stiff flume
would be cool if you could reliably spawn hermes
clear dome
haelian?
stiff flume
+3 dash runs are 😩 👌
dusky grove
Fasty dude steals everone's chance XD
stiff flume
his boon isnt in the same pool as the others
weak rivet
IM TRYING OUT BENEFITS PACKAGE WHAT IS THIS LMAOO
IVE NEVER BEEN THIS SCARED OF A NUMBSKULL
stiff flume
weak rivet
IT'S STUPID FUN THOUGH
clear dome
nah cloning skulls are worse
weak rivet
Oh i full know im gonna get annihilated in elysium
stiff flume
have you tried the one yet that enhances bosses? my reaction upon seeing first boss was the same as zag's
cunning urchin
I'm thinking maybe I'll try an Aphrodite-only run. Sell any other boons that I can't avoid picking up.
weak rivet
But i trust my favourite weapon and sheer stupidity
quartz crow
ok rocket hammer for rail with deflect is insane
the aoe shoved meg's spray into her noggin
weak rivet
no u
opal bay
can't wait for Crail to find speedy teleporting flamewheels
cunning urchin
Hydra seems to be a lot easier with Extreme Measures on 2.
opal bay
just pray they don't appear, otherwise keep going.
oh definitely
due to hydras being so close it's so easier to hit them all at once
quartz crow
i really like having limited choices maxed
clear dome
weird
dusky grove
guh
weak rivet
I did the thing with limiting choices but then internally cried when triple bomb got blocked
cunning urchin
Also most of the bloodless spawners fall into lava.
dusky grove
yup
weak rivet
Hammer: offers both spread fire and triple bomb
My Exagryph lover butt: NOOO
dusky grove
use the cast-shotgun
stiff flume
spread fire is my favorite hammer in the game i think
once someone told me you can hold down left mouse button while dashing
😩
quartz crow
is it even possible to have all hammers in a run?
dusky grove
pray for dedaelus to always drop his hammer ?
quartz crow
i really hate it when thanotos spams his bell
he started with the aoe and now i hear bong bong bong
stinking kill stealer
i suck at rail cause turned off aim assist
dusky grove
imagine wasting all your defiances just because you want to beat Than :>
cunning urchin
Than is great.
dusky grove
dot
dense locust
I remember when they introduced benefits package and I decided to do a run with two levels in it and nothing else. Felt harder than a 20 heat run
cunning urchin
I think when you can't beat Than, it's a good indictator that you have poor build synergy or just aren't prioritizing damage buffs on your primary attack enough.
dense locust
Or you're playing a slow damage over time build
weak rivet
Most times im able to do it but when i see i wont do it im just like
JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL
cunning urchin
Yeah that too.
weak rivet
"you spawned em than you deal with em"
dense locust
Or you're in elysium on 32 heat and are terrified
lament coral
I mean, sometimes he appears early in Asphodel and you have to deal with armored enemies with BP
cunning urchin
No, it's Thanatos. Jesus is from a different game.
lament coral
obviously, he can one shot em, but I can't
it's even worse if he uses the AOE skill when you're facing a bunch of ranged enemies, since they tend to just clump together
weak rivet
Than: aoe
Enemy: oh wats this pretty purble circle
dense locust
at least in elysium, if he one shots a bunch of the soldiers, you can come in and clean up the little floating things
clear dome
jesus is the son of zeus, he is the cousin of zag @cunning urchin
lament coral
exactly, you can play clean up in Elysium
weak rivet
Would be fun if he had quotes for that
lament coral
that at least allows you to break even, which is good enough to get the reward
dense locust
I've had runs at high heats where I'm literally just trying to hide and then come in and clean up the floating dudes so that the round ends
weak rivet
SORRY THAN YOU MAY BE INVULNERABLE BUT THIS THOT ISN'T
cunning urchin
He's quite vulnerable underneath that cool exterior. Very kuudere.
weak rivet
Suggestion: a [HELP ME] button for when you're chased by flamewheels
cunning urchin
That would be LT/L2/whatever it is on keyboard.
weak rivet
Oh right we already have a help button xD
I meant a specified LOOK OVER HERE button for than encounters /j
clear dome
add a cheat code to avoid all firewheel rooms tbh
cunning urchin
Though I imagine Meg would just stay and watch for awhile for her own amusement before helping you with those Flamewheels.
clear dome
indicator that this is a flamewheel room
weak rivet
enters a room
vrrr vrrr vrrr
oh no
MEOW
OH NO
clear dome
why does the chariot say meow?
weak rivet
That's because it plays the thomas the tank engine theme
surreal tapir
I hear Than and I am summoned
yall ever just get a Than encounter and beat him and then he just DOES NOT SHOW UP
the audacity really
tawdry sail
Yup. Several times
Had 10+ runs without Than before he showed up in escape attempts
But never in House though
surreal tapir
well that's terribly unfortunate
Every run I go on I'm just internally hoping for Than to come
gotta finish all those hearts yanno
cunning urchin
That's what I normally get, yeah. Epic Frost Strike is pretty good so far though.
proven zenith
how do I assign myself hades role ?
clear dome
#bot-commands
proven zenith
thanks 🙂
turbid needle
Athena attack is Guan Yu's best spin boon.
cunning urchin
I still haven't tried Athena on it, but I can see it being strong especially on high heat. Demeter worked great on it though, and Heartbreak Flourish to go with it.
rich cedar
Equip achielles spear and go talk to achielles
Ive had 3 runs now
starting with arrowshard
trying to get artemis legendary
and it just doestn happen
gray lintel
oh god I just got the rocket + the cluster bomb
it fires a shotgun of 5 rockets
i did not expect this
this is crazy with posideon special
with Blizzard Shot this run is now Torgue Approved
round summit
for me, the best change for some weapon + boon is Explosive Arrow + Aphro's cast
It's like a really precise shotgun
with a Weakness bonus
round summit
sure it be exploding people also
static prawn
side note: I've read the chariots meow because they're Nemean chariots. Same place as the Nemean lion
stable onyx
do you guys sometimes get that glitch where you cant click on your boons at the end of the run
on the showcase screen
anyway i had a really good run with chrion bow
couldnt take proper ss tho
naive tusk
It has been happening lately
turbid needle
Homing Bruiser Witches on an Artemis trial.
One biome away from going full Japanese bullet hell.
lament coral
I hate how they keep tracking after flying past you
why can't my stuff track that well?
brave dune
Because you don't get a benefits package
rich cedar
What is artemis trial?
turbid needle
Homing circles.
unkempt pagoda
make the circles crosshairs
turbid needle
Asterius just opened with spin attack and Theseus carpet bomb'd the perimeter. One more hit clipped from Asterius and then one bomb and 200 health and the run was gone.
rich cedar
RIP
Im starting to burn out on the grind
Id rather just be able to unlock all the weapons and play with them
dusky grove
man this run was clutch
just trying to farm but then it turned out to be my record 😭
rich cedar
I found 2 other titles
"close call, though" which is if you surive the last 1 with 0 dd and under 10 hp i think
and olympian caller
which i think is for just spmming your f key
stable onyx
so used the alternative mirror skills for the prophecy
turns out ruthless reflex is pretty good
stable onyx
i used arthur aswell lol
rich cedar
Your runtimes are really fast
Your slowest time is like my fastest
its like mini railgun then
just better
weak rivet
Godddddd
Support fire with the hammers that make you rapidfire and chain the damage, on Coronacht?
Exagryph has nothing on THIS machine gun
static prawn
new: aspect of Rambo
naive laurel
Try adding that too double shot
got a run like that yesterday, pretty easy win
well, today, technically
round summit
I'm having a run where I inverted most of my Mirror choices bc Fates said so
naive laurel
It might work out
round summit
I though I would be obliterated fighting the three Furies but turns out I'm alredy at the Big Baddie with 2 DD and 1 Athena replenish
I hope it doesn't get ruined by ruthless reflex
having 1 dash only just gets on my nerves
naive laurel
ruthless is pretty good early game for dmg, and late game for dodge chance
u just have to land pixel perfect dash for the spin attack tho
wanton dew
Does aspect of chiron also sinergyze with support fire
if so damn
imma still not going to play it tho
aspect of hera gang
lament coral
@naive laurel hey, were you asking for run titles?
naive laurel
I...don't think that's me?
lament coral
oh, my bad
someone was asking for a list of run end titles but I can't remember who
round summit
u just have to land pixel perfect dash for the spin attack tho
I was doing Eris' Deleter Gun
someone was asking for a list of run end titles but I can't remember who
Wasn't me but I sure wanted to know also
lament coral
round summit
oohh
nice
I'm scared to go through it and find unreleased content
BUT I'm more curious then scared
sooooo I'm going to look it up
lament coral
just look up Fisher King and scroll up and down from there
I looked through just the list of the titles and there were no spoilers
latent junco
