#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 458

dense locust Apr 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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Whatever the theme is on that boat mini boss is probably the one that always gets me pumped

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 7:53 AM

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It's just called The Bloodless

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also tiny rat theme

dense locust Apr 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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That's appropriate, those fights are usually tough no matter your build

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 7:54 AM

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heccin rat

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...hey where does Hades' theme loop anyway?

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like specifically

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first part I mean

exotic turtle Apr 1, 2020, 7:57 AM

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ill listen to it a couple times and see if i can tell

dense locust Apr 1, 2020, 9:23 AM

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5 Athena dashes can make almost any build work: https://imgur.com/DqZNCb6

Imgur

turbid needle Apr 1, 2020, 9:31 AM

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5 dashes, you mean

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Seriously, it's that insane

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Nonetheless, nice run

brisk copper Apr 1, 2020, 9:38 AM

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indeed

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btw i remembered, why having Athena's or Hermes' dash is critical

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that spinning attack is still hard to dodge, and there are not really many opportunities to practice

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it is possible, but i-frames are short and timing is unclear

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next time i shall see, if that attack starts from the angle the final boss faces, or from the same one every time

dense locust Apr 1, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Yeah with 5 athena dashes, you can pretty much just dash attack towards hades whenever he's just about to do something and you'll either deflect the spear or skull, or you'll be far out of range of his spin

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Well, I mean 5 dashes with athena boon

fickle hull Apr 1, 2020, 10:22 AM

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I'm still completely lost on how to deal with hades. I can do literally everything but deal with the spin attack. Is there a window with the dodge dash? is there a spot inside the circle that won't be damaged?

twin mural Apr 1, 2020, 10:31 AM

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@fickle hull it's all about timing. even your normal boonless dash has i-frames. you gotta see when the telegraph for the spin happens, and then DON'T PANIC

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panic mashing dash will generally kill you with that move unless you're really far away already

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 10:37 AM

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I also heard you can dash through, not just away

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'dont panic' is kinda hard to do with the spinny sometimes

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:12 AM

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yeah the spins that dont do damage but are just a wind up for the big spin

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screw me up

brisk copper Apr 1, 2020, 11:17 AM

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guess they start from where he faces

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and that's another factor, since it's harder to figure out the nessesary moment

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and it's ok

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 11:38 AM

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Don't you love getting the choice of a miniboss or a trial when youre on a curse

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In elysium

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:^)

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Also had to spurn best girl because i am MOT DOING AN ATHENA TRIAL I HEARD THE HORROR STORIES

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So i lost a dd

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AND Artemis laughed at me

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 11:53 AM

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No but Theseus's and Hades' Spin Slash telegraphs look sexy.

mossy breach Apr 1, 2020, 12:15 PM

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is it true that using your cast at the end of a chamber somehow changes the rng of the next? how does that work? i just saw it on a gameplay video

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 12:29 PM

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Athena trial was nerfed, it's more manageable now

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 12:35 PM

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Ohp

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Well either way i died ajc

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Goddamn elysium

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Also love how when i think my boons out and stuff i lose and now when im just doing a farming run im already up in the elysium bossfight all dds intact

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I wouldnt be that mad but my boons are a MESS

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 12:42 PM

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yeah, losing to RNG is unpleasant

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 12:43 PM

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how do i reunite orpheus and eurydice? and how do i bring vrath's secret to light?

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 12:43 PM

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just keep talking to em

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 12:44 PM

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and vratha's secret? do i have to unlock the 4th aspect of the spear to max?

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 12:45 PM

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I don't know what you're talking about

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 12:45 PM

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well thanks for the help

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i talked to those a lot, i guess i just have to do it more

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 12:45 PM

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oh yeah, they added new stuff last couple of patches

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 12:46 PM

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ya i haven't played as much since the last 2 patches until now

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im trying to finish all the prophecies

brisk copper Apr 1, 2020, 12:51 PM

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common problem.. got enough time and keys to unlock Malphon only today

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cool thing indeed

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Zagreus, the underworld prince
and knuckles

covert sedge Apr 1, 2020, 12:54 PM

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What does Heroic do?

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 12:55 PM

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Heroic is the highest rarity for regular boons

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white - common, blue - rare, purple - epic, red - heroic

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 12:59 PM

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God im so mad

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I almost had him

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Even with the bollocks boons

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Sadly i had cursed blade so every single of his spinnys did half my health

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 1:00 PM

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yep, I took that hammer once for the prophecy, never again

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Wait

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what happens when tight deadline reaches 0 ?

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It reached 0 for me at final boss

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and didnt kill m e

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 1:45 PM

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you start taking damage every second, slowly draining your HP

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it doesn't kill you instantly

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Ah I see

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Rip

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Aspect of Hera sucks for tight deadline

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I had artemis cast and privilged status boosts and disloge damage but still didnt do enough

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: (

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Although the reason I was so s hort on time was probbably

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because I found the satyr sack

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in the last styx room

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Big rip

lament coral Apr 1, 2020, 1:46 PM

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yeah, the sack RNG could be a run killer

brisk copper Apr 1, 2020, 1:47 PM

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well, the bow is not generally good for quick playthrough

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mostly.. there are exceptions, but few

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Yeah I see

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I didnt have any other pacts other than that tho

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still didnt do much damage

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I also just found out you cant use the bat summon

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on final boss

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I think

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or maybe I ran out of summons

brisk copper Apr 1, 2020, 1:48 PM

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yes, you can't

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bc lore

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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yeah makes sense

brisk copper Apr 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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i believe 3 of 5 are unusable on final boss

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 1:49 PM

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skelly is usable

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and idk what else

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guessing bouldy

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havnet gotten bouldy yet

brisk copper Apr 1, 2020, 1:50 PM

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yes

solid cairn Apr 1, 2020, 2:18 PM

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Pretty weird that shady, along with already being the most useful companion, is one of the only ones that can be used in the final boss

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:29 PM

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there is no reason to ever unequip that companion, just keep shady on forever, ive never even tried the other ones

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:31 PM

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Shady ?

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Who do you get shady from

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I thought battie was best companion

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looking at speedrunner atleast

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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sisyphus

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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oh thats the bouldy summon

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To be fair

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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speedrunners are too good though, i suck and need healing

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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getting shady

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takes a ton more effort

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than other ones

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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it sure does, but its the only i have maxed

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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I have 80 runs in the game

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and I still dont have it

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:32 PM

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the rest of my ambriosa is used for titan blood

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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if you have privilaged status maxx

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and apply 2 status effects on minotaur and thesus

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at the start

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and use megara

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you can almost half their hp

solid cairn Apr 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Tbh most of the weapons I use are best with family favorite

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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with one summon

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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half hp with their armor form?

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:33 PM

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Oh

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I havent tried armor form

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tried fighting them in that form once

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died almost immedeatly

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and decided to not do that for now

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:34 PM

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im playing at heat 10 plus in most my weapons, i feel healing is useful more than damage

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i always heal every hydra fight pretty much, i rarely don't. they are in tight spots with fire everywhere

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:35 PM

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I always lose a death defince on hydra

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at higher ranks

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keep dashing into fire

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I shouuld probbably also do a normal weapon run sometime soon

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:36 PM

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me too, or get bounced by the stupid big head with its extra speed form, i really need healing in that

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:36 PM

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myy last 20 runs are like just cast runs

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I love doing them so much

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:36 PM

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im farming blood right now, so all i do is win with different weapons and heat to keep earning blood

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so hard to max all aspects and this game is getting harder than when i started. things are getting faster

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and started teleporting

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:37 PM

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Yeah same

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I see which weapon is giving me the bonus darkness

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and then I play with that

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Am around 5 heat with every weapon now

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except fists

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those are level 10 I think

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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fists are awesome, i just won my 9 heat run with em

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:38 PM

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I just love how varied the builds can be

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From lighting kick to cast builds

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to demeter fists

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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i just did athena firsts, so easy to win

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fists*

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:39 PM

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Oh that too

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Athena fists and then you get the fists that charge up

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and then you put some heavy damage on special

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like artemis

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and then you do damage and have great defense

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:40 PM

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nah i was all attack for me, i just went athena with all her passives and dash, demeter special

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i just used it for the buff though and keep hitting attack, everything died so fast

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rest where all passives, i try to focus on 1 attack in most situations

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:41 PM

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For me depends on the run

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but I like to mostly focus on one thing too

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Although sometimes it can screw you over

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like I was about to do dyonisus zeus cast

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But didnt get feast cast

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till styx

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:42 PM

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that happened to me too when i tried it

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zeus or pseidon anything always makes my run harder i find

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i just stay away from them

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pseidon is ok on range, but melee i keep pushing ppl away from me and then i gotta go after them, its inconvenient, and zeus lacks damage without certain buffs

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I nevee do poseidon attack

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maybe sometimes on bow

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but rarely

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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i wouldn't mind it on gun, but thats it

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Although I did have one extremely epic zeus+poseidon run

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with guan yu

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special

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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I still don’t understand how aiming Battie works...

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:44 PM

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Preses special 3 times everything knocked each other around and died

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I think it draws a line from you to the nearest oponnent

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So if you want to hit 2

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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...angery.

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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you stand in a diagnoal between them

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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i have never used battie on a run tbh, i only used skelly and shady

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:45 PM

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I tried them all out for the lore

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I like Mort a good amount

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:46 PM

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when i max all the aspects i want, i will max some. for now, im only trading for blood

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it seems the dusa one will be really good

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especially if you pick the pack of punishment with less healing so shady is useless

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:48 PM

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does

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petrify work on bosses

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then dusa might be good

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otherwise I dont see the use

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I don’t think so...

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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i think it does 70 damage instead of petrify

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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wyeh

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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it always does 70 damage

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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but im not sure if it works on bosses

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:49 PM

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I think

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but it doesnt compare to meg

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who does 2k damage

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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maybe i should try that one time

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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Dusa should be something like Aphrodites’ effect, like doing the petrify, but significantly less than usual

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:50 PM

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I mean all other status effects besides knockback

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can be used

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I personally dont think giving buffs for summon through boon would be good

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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i hope the last companion is useful vs bosses, because everything seems underwhelming

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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since they can only be used a limited amount of times

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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and if you miss, it just feels so bad

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:51 PM

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I mean I only use summons for bosses

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but I have only used meg and skelly

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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Almost every companion needs to be buffed, if not all...

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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skelly is good if you have a build where you need to charge up attacks

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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there are 4 bosses and the first one needs nothing

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so you get 3 uses, 2 for random things

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I also count the minibosses as bosses

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I use one in elysium

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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I use summons for elite encounters that are not from Tartarus

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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i just use it as a pop up heal and hope i have one use for hades

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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one for the medusa miniboss

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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sometimes i don't

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:52 PM

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And then 1 wherever

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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I often don’t try to rely on summons

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:53 PM

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i need 1 heal every single hydra fight and theseus fight

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or i would lose a death defiance

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I use summons more often on stuff like Butterfly Orb or little tiny rat.

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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even with the heal, sometimes theseus still takes my death defiance

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Whats a good build for the shield you throw out

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Uh

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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chaos shield?

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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Which one?

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:54 PM

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I want to find a fun shield build and I haveent used that one yet

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The one that stays out

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for some time

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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ohh zeus

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Zeus

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Yeah

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I tried chaos shield

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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i like it with poison, i haven't used it in a while

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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but I dont like it at all

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Hm...I haven’t heard much of boon pairings, but the Explosive Return is a must

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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I'd say poison and demeter, athena, artemis all work with that one

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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Athena Dash and Hermes Dashes

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:55 PM

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it good because it keeps applying statuses each time it damages

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so you can make them reach 10 stacks with demeter quick, same with poison

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athena will deflect anything so its more defensive, and artemis will keep critting

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 2:56 PM

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I will try ice wine and legandary dio if I can get it

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Ooh

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artemis sounds fun too

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Gonna try that

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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Otherwise, I think damage-wise, you could probably go with whatever. Crit Chance, Ares Stack, Aphrodite boost,

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Pretty sure that one’s up to you

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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even aphrodite is good with her because you debuff everything it hits, so they do less damage

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but aphrodite is good with everything because of her debuff

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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But Athena Dash is something everyone likes with it

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 2:57 PM

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i even won with ares on it

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everything is passes though gets doomed

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through*

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im done hades for the day

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cheers

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 2:59 PM

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I think Zeus aspect is just down to your preference. But have it chase you around as you have like 4 Athena dashes, that’s a cool strat I hear often.

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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Yeah

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so far zeus aspect

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seems most fun shield aspect

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Shield was def my least favorite weapon

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idk why

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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mine too, i have the least wins with it at 9

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:00 PM

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shadesmile

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I unno, the Twin Fists feel the most funky to me

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I also favor the Bow and Rail.

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I am the ranged man (I)\/\/(I)

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:01 PM

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My favorite is sword and fists

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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mine too

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sword is the most wins with 13 heat at 14

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Eh, Sword and Guan Yu are my second picks

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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wins

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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I hear Fists feels best on controller if that helps

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:02 PM

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Actually I think uh

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...you know what, I don’t know if I have a least favorite weapon thinking about it

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Same

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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i do, the shield and the spear are my least favourite

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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They all have their feels, but Coronacht and Exagryph are my favorite feels ^-^

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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I used to not like Spear but I loooooove Guan Yu

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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1- sword 2- fists 3- bow 4- gun 5- spear 6- shield

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Guan Yu is awesome

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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i don't have it unlocked yet

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:03 PM

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Shield is my "here to have a good time" weapon

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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is it that awesome?

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Spartacus you should max level Guan Yu. The Spear Throw is awesome.

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Sword is my "sits up straight so I don't lose this time" weapon

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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i have 8 blood, 22 ambriosa and 33 diamonds

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so i can max it

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Guan yu is the only spear i use tbh

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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sword is the hardest weapon, but still my favourite

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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Its so fun

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:04 PM

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i love hades aspect

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but i never tried guan yu

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i just wanted to max other things first

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:05 PM

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Hm...if you wanna save the blood for something else, you don’t need to spend it all on Guam Yu

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Basically, here’s the run down

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:05 PM

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since i have 2 aspects max and 1 level 4 in spear

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i wanted to max hera's aspect and the rail with the reload thing

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first

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they are level 3 and 4 so i need 14 blood for that

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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Guan Yu’s Attack is slower but deals more damage. Same range, and not as slow as Arthur.
The Special has an extra hitbox that deals damage to enemies the spear throw wizzes by. It is basically Explosive Throw with some horizontal hitbox.
The Charge Attack is a ranged spin dash that gives you +1 HP each time it hits someone (don’t rely on it TOO much though, it’s also weaker than your usual spin slash since it’s turned into a Blade Rift)

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:07 PM

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how many points do i need in it to make it playable at high heat, like 10?

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I'm either on 10 or 11 heat on spear right now

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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I’ll tell you this:

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I am not a mathematician.

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:08 PM

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ill try to take it to 3 when i play tomorrow

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and see how i like it

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:09 PM

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I’d take it to 4 if I were you tbh

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Maybe play at some low heat to test it out before giving up if you’d like to spare the time

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:10 PM

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thats 13 blood, ill give it a shot

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13 blood is ok, ill just trade my ambriosa

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:10 PM

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oh

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:10 PM

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i have 22 of them and 8 blood

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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I mean

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I guess?

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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i always do that

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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You really don’t wanna give them to the companions or people?

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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i have most aspects i like maxed except 3

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i never do

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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shadegrief

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:11 PM

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until i have all the aspects i love maxed

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and thats a lot of them

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Do you even have one companion maxed?

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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only shady

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Aight that’s fair

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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Hm

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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the rest are level 1 and skelly is level 3

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the rest of ambriosa was traded for blood

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:13 PM

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if I have deflect dash already

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should I switch out deflect special on zeus aspect

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for heroic artemis

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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fam how are you playing on high heat without the bass-boosted keepsakes??

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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Hm

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Imma try it

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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i used shady only and its maxed, i don't need everything maxed

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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That’s an interesting dilemma honestly

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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which one is Shady again

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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the one that heals

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 3:14 PM

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“Did a boulder just fall from the sky?”

kindred bolt Apr 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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cheers guys

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:15 PM

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👋

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 3:40 PM

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Ayy

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I did it

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Yeah zeus shield most fun one

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I had artemis special

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demeter attack with the shield hits 2 times upgrade

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Blade rift with cast spammable

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And athena legendary and dash

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Also

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I love how poseidon calls you little hades

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thats so adorable, like something my uncle would say

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Minidad

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Is the deaths defience counted as a seperate one

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from chaos

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 4:02 PM

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yes, Chaos gives you an entire bonus DD

solid cairn Apr 1, 2020, 4:08 PM

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Who else thinks spread shot Artemis attack is gonna get nerfed

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Dang

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already have 64 hours into the game

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The longest time I spent on a roguelike before this game was 15 hours

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I lose interest as soon as I beat the final boss once

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Just a testament to how great this game is

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I keep coming back to it

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I do like a few runs every 2 days

green birch Apr 1, 2020, 4:44 PM

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Ayyyy nice!

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What have been some of your favorite moments so far?

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 5:03 PM

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I like the social link like aspect in the game

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I love the amount of different builds you can have

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I like how a run lasts up to 30 mins and not like an hour like some roguelikes can be

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All the art is amazing

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characters and writing is fenomenal

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I could go on

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but its best described as "supergiant quality" game

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Although gameplay wise this is probbably the smoothest one

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When I played bastion at times controls would feel cluncky

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but moving the character feels a lot more fluid in this game

unkempt geyser Apr 1, 2020, 5:15 PM

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i feel like i just aged five years reading this thread https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/2/2146469347101449452/

Fix for bow special and some boons much needed. :: Hades Suggestion...

So, the thing that always gets me in this game, is when You go down to business and start to pick one and the same boon in different weapons to see the differences and find them shocking, misleading and downright broken. Here is the small list of My today's observations: 1) Su...

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"All of this, simply put, just makes the game an inconsistent spaghetti-factory, and I hope that this state of things will be a subject to change, and much prefferably sooner than later." wow guys you heard it here first from random irritable internet stranger

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like i feel like some of their points have merit but the way they act and word everything makes me not take it seriously

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 5:20 PM

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Gof i love blenders

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Athena call + black metal and vortex and a leveled ares dash

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Made for a lovely Redacted smoothie

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 5:47 PM

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oh dear this entire article feels like this is in character to Terezi Pyrope when at her worst somehow.

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...or like, being a prank.

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Say hey wait a minute, if you manage to consume the Skelly Tooth and replenish all of your Death Defiances with Patroclus, would that be a Skelly Defiance or Normal Defiance?

fallow niche Apr 1, 2020, 6:29 PM

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I don't think Patty refills Skelly's tooth

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Could be wrong though

tepid ridge Apr 1, 2020, 6:35 PM

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Don’t see why it would, the trinket isn’t phrased as a death defiance even though it operates almost exactly as one would. There’s a lot of that Magic the Gathering-style wording specificity throughout this game.

grand patrol Apr 1, 2020, 6:35 PM

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he does i think? its a kiss of styx fill, tho

hearty dew Apr 1, 2020, 6:39 PM

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hey guys, im trying to finish up some fated prophesies by getting all boons with Zeus, Aphrodite etc. how do i get the later boons? theres only splitting bolt from zeus and unhealthy fixations from aphrodite that i need for those

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Well, I'm just asking, if you depleted that Skelly Defiance, and if you replenished it, would it be a Death Defiance or a Skelly Defiance, put simply?

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@hearty dew could you specify what prophecy specifically are you aiming for?

hearty dew Apr 1, 2020, 6:51 PM

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King of Defiance for all Zeus Boons, and Godess of Love for all Aphrodite Boons

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Go to the hades wiki

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there is a chart for every god

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You need some pre-requisite boons for certain ones

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and a bit of luck with it

hearty dew Apr 1, 2020, 6:53 PM

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oh didnt know there was boon progression charts

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thanks, hopefully this'll go smoother now

opal bay Apr 1, 2020, 7:31 PM

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rare crop (epic) in Elysium. Yes or no?

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Depends if you think you can do

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the boss fight

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in elysium

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otherwise I would say yes since you got plenty of rooms in styx

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 8:38 PM

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What would people think about a redesign of the Poseidon boon "Wave Pounding" where it would give you damage bonus for every Poseidon boon / Poseidon knockback boon you have?

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 8:38 PM

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Does each room in Styx count as an encounter?

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Each room counts as a room. It does not count as an encounter as far as keepsakes go, so only the final room will scale up pierced butterfly and the plume keepsake

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Hm. That I've noticed.

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But what about for stuff like Chaos or Rare Crop?

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 8:41 PM

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They definitely count as encounters for rare crop, and I'm pretty sure they count as encounters for the chaos boons

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 8:41 PM

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Hm!

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Kewl

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Yeah, so late game rare crop can be pretty good, assuming you still have 3 of those chambers to head down through

sullen valley Apr 1, 2020, 8:42 PM

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Neat

stuck bough Apr 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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https://gyazo.com/d7f4118b4d68480969081f003bb7e89e

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still lovin this

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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An error page?

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 9:27 PM

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just got blitz disc and i cant

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or well, zeus shielf

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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Ah no its working now

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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idk why it just makes me laugh when it awkwardly zooms at someone

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SLOWLY APPROACHING SHIELD

stuck bough Apr 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345738844412444683/695021710881325066/d7f4118b4d68480969081f003bb7e89e.png

weak rivet Apr 1, 2020, 9:28 PM

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15

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15

stuck bough Apr 1, 2020, 9:29 PM

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nyoom with fist

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 10:14 PM

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At 7:13, how does he know that he's getting the Eurydice room? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtGqs6UbuSA

YouTube

Haelian

"Where's Patty?!" Close call with Talos Aspect! /Hades Nighty Night...

I stream on twitch some times, come say hi http://www.twitch.tv/haelian/.

I have my own discord finally! Come join us for a stream schedule or other information about Hades and speedrunning. https://discord.gg/j7Fa2Mv

▶ Play video

pastel jolt Apr 1, 2020, 10:15 PM

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probably extreme familiarity with the seed for that run!

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 10:15 PM

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oh :/

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does the seeding reset with each act? seems like no matter what, they're playing randomly within a few rooms into Tartarus

pastel jolt Apr 1, 2020, 10:16 PM

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(helps if i skip to the right timestamp)

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ah, now i see

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yeah, it's because he can reroll one doorway but not the other, meaning it's either a shop or eurydice

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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aha

pastel jolt Apr 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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and the shop only comes up at two specific points in the biome

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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(oh?)

pastel jolt Apr 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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As long as you have 1 Fated Authority, you can tell when shops/story rooms are the exit even with the Chaos curse because the game will say Unalterable below the door (since you can't reroll those chambers).

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halfway and the last room before the boss

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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Is there a list of biome order info like that somehwere?

pastel jolt Apr 1, 2020, 10:18 PM

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it's jsut the sort of thing you learn through enough runs

dusty tiger Apr 1, 2020, 10:26 PM

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So I am using the telos aspect for malphon, and I turned off the "dash to cursor", it has this weird lag between my attacks and my dashes.

balmy zephyr Apr 1, 2020, 10:45 PM

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do we know what the new chance to find a duo boon is as long as you have the requirements without god's chosen

tall yarrow Apr 1, 2020, 10:46 PM

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I went straight to 16 heat after I did 8 heat and expected to get wrecked but I one shot it 😄

woven crane Apr 1, 2020, 10:54 PM

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nj) Shame it only gave you heat 9 reward.

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And a skelly prize👍

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:02 PM

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I'm (newish player) slowly climbing up the heats to get my Bloods, but honestly has bogged the game down a bit

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I feel like I'm spending a lot of time on winstreaks on middling heat with the various weapons, instead of just trying to learn hard difficulties--which would probably be more interesting

covert grove Apr 1, 2020, 11:40 PM

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@dusk moss Oops is correct! Unfortunately we don't really have a catalogue of tips like this, but maybe a video is in order of such things...

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:43 PM

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List of random tips in general would be great!

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And specifically--while trying to learn, understanding the ramifications of your door choices are bit opaque (this is game feedback, really). Knowing when you can expect shops, understanding your remaining chances of Patroclus, when you'll get offered/reoffered minibosses, etc.

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Yeah and a reroll guide too

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Since athena,ares and artemis rooms tend to reroll into each other

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I would have never noticed that if a guy didnt say it in a vid

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:48 PM

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I've been playing Fated Persuasion (which I've gathered is weird), but knowing the details of Fated Authority would be great too

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:49 PM

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today I got artemis in tararus

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and then went for ares in elysium

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so I could reroll into artemis

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big brain play

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Dont know if there is any other gods lkke that

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Also might just be me but when you have pre requisite for duo boon

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game seems to push those gods more

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Gods you already have are pushed more, right?

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:50 PM

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Yes

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Depending on your build

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it can be good or bad

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Generally while playing FP, I'll rely on getting one more of a god I already have, which I can usually force to being the duo I want, while taking a keepsake for someone else I want to add

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Yeah when I have no idea what run I want to do

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I just pick aphrodite boon start

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in hopes of getting her call

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But her other things are always useful too

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If you want more "iframes" on your dash get athena dash

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Do high-level players usually do act 1 with a keepsake to start a particular build in mind, or something generic like gold, and then pick god keepsakes after seeing what start they get

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(Yeah, if I don't have a strong need for act3, I'll often pick Athena for dash)

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:53 PM

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Yeah thats what I do too

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I start out with the god I want

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Also 90% of the time atleast for me

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Darkness seems to reroll into key or those buildimg items

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But if you reroll enough you might get something better

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:55 PM

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I believe FA specifically rerolls meta-rewards into meta-rewards

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:55 PM

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but it might also be that they rerolling the first 3 things you reroll most often

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I see

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:55 PM

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so you can only turn gold/health/poms into gods

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:55 PM

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Yeah I want to try the other one

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but everyone says its bad

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I'm playing it, but yeah, everyone says its bad 😛

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:56 PM

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Honestls could have used the boon reroll today when I had all cast buffs but not the cast I wanted

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:56 PM

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I don't know, I get how FA can be habit-forming, but FP lets me target things I want very strongly

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and at the same time FP was added, we got +15% leg/duo chance, to make it very likely to get duos you want with 0-1 rerolls

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Yup I might try it tommrow

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but rerolls cost so much darkness

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:57 PM

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It also has a lot of intangible value at Charon pools and Hermes

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:57 PM

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to upgrade

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wait

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you can reroll shop

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with it ?

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:57 PM

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not full shops, but pools

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:57 PM

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Ah

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

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so I'll use it for a Kiss of Styx, or in a hallway before final boss, to try to have consumables up for that fight

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

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Oh yeah a good tip is

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

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@dusk moss How much do you consider "middling" heat?

sly sonnet Apr 1, 2020, 11:58 PM

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broken spearpoint is a life saver in styx

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:59 PM

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My weapons are at 6-12 heat now

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I'd just go for the 40% damage reduction

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KK

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From the bracers

dusk moss Apr 1, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I use spearpoint a lot for generic Act4 survivability, but shifting somewhat to Acorn

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esp. if i have athena dash

kind fiber Apr 1, 2020, 11:59 PM

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I guess broken spearpoint is supposed to save you from rats? Plenty of builds don't exactly suffer from rats

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Poison tics once

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:00 AM

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if I think I'm going to be poisoned a lot, I favor Spearpoint

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:00 AM

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Ah

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:00 AM

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and lasers too

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You dont need to deal with that as much

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I sometimes get acofn instead of spearpoint

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acorn*

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:00 AM

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I think you can prevent most poison damage by just rushing towards a fountain

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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if I have Athena dash, huge mobility, or great burst damage--I might think I can handle satyrs fine, but otherwise I worry about being poisoned often

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Yeah the enemies that throw poison needles at you

buoyant junco Apr 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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so if you get one of those trinkets that increase X by Y% if you do Z... do you lose the bonus if you swap after boss?

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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my most hated enemy in the game

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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yes

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Yes

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:01 AM

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if I'm an playing an aoe explosion fest I'll also assume that my only danger is Hades, and pick Acorn

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but if I have to stand still for single-target damage (e.g. bow), I'll pick Spearpoint, because I just get poisoned all the time

buoyant junco Apr 2, 2020, 12:02 AM

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dang.. so if that's your first keepsake it's the one for the whole run

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Yeah, its kinda lame I think

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Yes but those are very specialised runs

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Yeah, Butterfly is a neat design, but the additive damage situation really neuters it

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I'd be okay if you kept every bonus from keepsakes you picked up that run

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:02 AM

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either you try and force a lot of chaos

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with the damage keepsake

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or focus dodge chance

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I don't think theres anything too broken by allowing you to keep keepsakes, while also picking up new ones

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I wished if you kept the god keepsake

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it would guarantee his boon at the start of each area

buoyant junco Apr 2, 2020, 12:03 AM

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^

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this as well

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:04 AM

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It would probably allow too good a strategy of getting 20% from Butterfly in act1 and then playing normally

buoyant junco Apr 2, 2020, 12:04 AM

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but that's exactly what I want 😄

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Okay, then it can be nerfed.

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:04 AM

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honestly I'm not sure there's much gain from the rule of not being able to re-pick a keepsake

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Or cap it out per area

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:05 AM

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You can either: Keep it the full run to built it up alot, or take it for a few specific acts and swap it out for an immediate bonus from another keepsake at some point

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:05 AM

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And buff like ceberus keepsake pls

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and some other ones too

buoyant junco Apr 2, 2020, 12:05 AM

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I mean if you're doing higher heat you'll have a hard time completing any of those challanges often beyond the first stage

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Is the evergreen acorn that good?

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I suppose on high heat it can be pretty helpful as the damage spikes but I've always felt it seemed underpowered so I never picked it

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:12 AM

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It has been pretty handy for final boss to me

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Its situational, but I tend to hear that its bad. Its good if you don't/wont get hit much

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Aspecially for the shockwave and out of nowhere lunges

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:12 AM

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The shockwaves pretty easy to avoid?

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Yes the small ones

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But sometimes I just focus hades

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and get like 4 at once

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 12:13 AM

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Isn't that just a mistake on your part though?

buoyant junco Apr 2, 2020, 12:14 AM

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ooo

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shots fired

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:14 AM

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True

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but I just like acorn

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when I do slow builds

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like bow and stuff

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But I take skelly tooth or spearpoint for styx

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most of the time

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But yeah at times I just want to see how fast I can melt final boss

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and just get acorn

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and still lose 3 lives

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because I care about getting max dps

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not dodging

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But thats my fault for being impatient

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:27 AM

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Acorn just feels like a good generic "don't lose" pick, if that's all you're worried about

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If you're worried about the boss more than the act4 rooms, Tooth is 100 added HP (little more), acorn is maybe 150 or so

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 12:37 AM

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Acorn becomes a lot more valuable with the damage increase modifiers

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Suddenly you can block insane amounts of damage

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And I only bother with other keepsakes when that isn't much of an issue. That, or I'm afraid Styx is gonna eat me alive, in which case I take the Broken Spearpoint

ashen stream Apr 2, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Just had a run with divine protection AND found chaos legendary residentzag

formal basin Apr 2, 2020, 12:51 AM

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If you're trying to maximize the amount of extra health you get in act 4, I think Cerberus' collar wins hands down. 50 by itself, 25 more per death defiance, but it also increases the amount the fountains heal you. If you pick it first and then take the act 4 fountain, that can be 20 extra health right there.

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And then if you factor in that one Athena buff, even more health.

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 12:53 AM

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Even with 3 DDs, that's 125 health, + up to 20 if you don't overheal from the fountain (is it 40% like other fountains)?

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Acorn probably stops more if you ever get hit by sweeps (40 each)

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Maybe should start considering Acorn for Extreme Measures act3 more, although a lot of the hits in that fight are smaller

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I kind of wish god keepsakes and other keepsakes were separate systems. "Player can express intentionality over the build" and "Player chooses a temporary combat bonus" are pretty different functions, and it's a little sad you usually go without one

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Does anyone feel that some pact of punishment conditions are worth more heat than they actually are?

The most glaring example for me is, from what I feel lasting consequences feels more like 1/1/2/3 than straight 1/1/1/1

kind fiber Apr 2, 2020, 1:34 AM

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I'm sure some are. They have made changes to the heat values of pacts in the past and will probably continue to do so

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Yeah I certainly hope so, but to what extent is why I kinda asked about it in here before i go straight towards feedback

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Lasting Consequences is a specific example whose value is very nonlinear

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Probably a good callout that the latter two ranks of it are not nearly worth only 1

viscid mango Apr 2, 2020, 3:15 AM

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Are screenshots allowed in here? I just had a ridiculously insane build

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Need an image link.

viscid mango Apr 2, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Ty

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https://imgur.com/a/SviDipg This was so so fun

Imgur

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I would take out ridiculous sections of FB's health bar with the greater call

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Guan Yu? More like Blade You!

viscid mango Apr 2, 2020, 3:18 AM

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hahaha

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I had Massive Spin and Quick Spin too

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That was the first time I actually had fun with the spear

worn bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 3:32 AM

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what does this aspect?

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@viscid mango

viscid mango Apr 2, 2020, 3:43 AM

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@worn bobcat It's the hidden aspect for the spear. I wouldnt want to spoil it for you

worn bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 3:43 AM

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i got it but i never tried to read the effect ^^'

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don't worry

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not a spear player

full dew Apr 2, 2020, 3:44 AM

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achillies spear is my fav weapon probably

viscid mango Apr 2, 2020, 3:45 AM

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@worn bobcat ||Guan Yu reduces your health and healing effects by 75%, but gives you a spin attack which heals you, your special changes to a normal ranged effect without having to recall the spear||

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||Thats why my health bar is only 89||

worn bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 3:46 AM

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sounds a bit like the hammer sword wich gives you sustain on hit

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and nerf ur health bar

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thanthink

viscid mango Apr 2, 2020, 3:47 AM

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I havent tried that yet, but the ||healing|| is nice

worn bobcat Apr 2, 2020, 3:48 AM

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it's a good sustain

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but you can get os pretty easely

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got it only once

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i hope they will add some level after the current final boss

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there's so much potential in greek mythology

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too add a big amount of LG content

full dew Apr 2, 2020, 4:04 AM

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they will, all the voice acting after beating hades suggest there are levels after it

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 4:09 AM

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GY is much better than Cursed Blade

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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By a huge margin.

clear dome Apr 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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not that huge

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Yes.

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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it is huge

clear dome Apr 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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arguably gy lv 1 is worse than cursed blade

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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GY's heal is ranged

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 4:10 AM

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Well, sure.

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But yes, Guan Yu's heal is ranged.

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It also hits very rapidly.

spring turret Apr 2, 2020, 4:27 AM

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problem with cursed blade is that you really need flurry slash to get most of the healing and even then its questionable because you have to stand still to heal. Would be alot better if it worked on dash strikes too cuz with double edge it would be really good.

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 4:27 AM

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Are infernal troves bought from pools worse than naturally spawning ones?

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Also, on topic--do things that buff "attack" not work on dash strikes? (like say chaos boons)

spring turret Apr 2, 2020, 4:28 AM

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nah they work on dash strikes too same with regular attack buffing boons like aphrodite.

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 4:52 AM

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@dusk moss I believe the bought ones are always inferior

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 4:53 AM

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Never tried buying them before, was surprised

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I was offered 25 gems—is it 1/3 for the others as well?

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 5:00 AM

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25/50/75

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gold, HP, and darkness are 100/125/150

naive tusk Apr 2, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Mandatory love for Athena tonight 💛

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Wait, did Malphon's Dash Special get patched?

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It's not getting the bonus from Chaos Lunge like it once did.

proper jolt Apr 2, 2020, 5:26 AM

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what's everyone's favorite Bow aspect for me it's Chiron

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:27 AM

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Zagreus.

proper jolt Apr 2, 2020, 5:27 AM

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the special is so fun to use

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having the extra crit early can help alot

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:29 AM

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I used it for my 32 Heat clear.

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Twin Shot and Explosive Shot with Deadly Strike for even more crit chance is nuts.

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Zag bow relies on hammers too much

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:30 AM

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Guan Yu is similarly reliant.

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 AM

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GY can always fall back onto the special

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 AM

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You need either Charged Skewer or Quick Spin.

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 AM

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Zag doesn't have that luxury

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 AM

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With Zagreus Aspect you just need Twin Shot.

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 5:31 AM

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you need bounce or twin

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either one works

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twin is better for bosses, bounce is a better room cleaner

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:32 AM

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I actually haven't tried Bounce that much.

lament coral Apr 2, 2020, 5:32 AM

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it's terrific

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you can shoot from behind covers

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you can shoot behind shields, too

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I tried explosive but it was kinda weird

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:35 AM

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Do Theseus's bombs still damage Zagreus if they're deflected?

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^ That I am not sure, nor am I willing to risk this in an actual run lol

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'Cause I'm pretty sure I just ate one for a Death Defiance.

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Because they're still too strong.

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I'm kinda livid right now.

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Yeah that sucks

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That was a picture-perfect run ruined by bad balance.

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That's the reason EM 3 isn't exactly free, honestly. That, and the fact that the marker bug exists

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It's not free and it shouldn't be free.

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But 60 base damage is insane.

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It's the single hardest hitting attack in the game in Zag's direction.

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Hades doesn't hit that hard with any single blow.

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Asterius doesn't even come close.

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Not without shooting you with a cast, at the very 'least, but yeah

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A small amount of bombs, or bombs that didn't have absolutely massive overlapping hitboxes, maybe 60 damage would be okay.

shut hare Apr 2, 2020, 5:41 AM

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just completed a run with final Stygius aspect rank 2 (25% damage reduction), +10% reduction from epic bronze skin, 19% reduction from rare lv 3 Different League and 30% reduction from myrmidon bracer. Combined with Zeus, Aphrodite, Ares, and Athena's wrath effects.... I have never decimated the final boss with so few dashes. I just stood there and ate hits while spamming double extended weakening special.... that felt so good. Heavy weapon is heavy.

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 5:43 AM

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marker bug?

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:43 AM

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If Exagryph's or Theseus's bombs deflect off a pillar, their landing zone marker disappears.

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 5:44 AM

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And sorry, I don't get the answer on the value of purchased chests--there were 6 numbers listed 😛

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ahh-that's bad for Thesus

turbid needle Apr 2, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Yeeaaahhhh.

dusk moss Apr 2, 2020, 5:44 AM

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how much potential health/gold/darkness/gems do you get from a purchased trove?

dusty tiger Apr 2, 2020, 7:05 AM

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I always make it to Hades' first phase if I have the deflecting dash or tidal dash

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but always runs out of death defiance.

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"Hmm, should I go for that demeter chamber in styx? Oh well, why not."
Proceed to lose my last death defiance and half my health.

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 7:39 AM

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@turbid needle I've lost a dd to that deflection of Theseus bombs like 5 or 6 times

azure atlas Apr 2, 2020, 8:49 AM

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game time

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Whats best weapon

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for stacking doom

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fists ?

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Well doom takes time to activagte

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but if you get merciful end you can activate it immediately. So in that cast, rail and fists are the best

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Yeah I was planning to try that duo boon run

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:23 AM

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If you're referring to dire misfortune, than yeah rail or fists, but the boon is very underpowered

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:23 AM

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like doom fist attack and athena dash

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:23 AM

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yeah

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thats the combo

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I had a run with that using the rail and its pretty strong

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but it also works with fists

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Havent tried it yet

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:24 AM

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its fun

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Its on my list of builds so might try it in a bit

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Not top tier but very fun

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:25 AM

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And hopefully today I can finally get ice wine

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I tried twice yesterday but nope

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:25 AM

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It kinda relies on getting at least extra 2 dashes though

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to make it shine

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:25 AM

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why

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:26 AM

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So you can get 4+ doom hits before dash goes on cd

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Oh wait

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:26 AM

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i mean 2 is still fine, and 3 works, but 4 or 5 and the dps really adds up

azure atlas Apr 2, 2020, 9:27 AM

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5

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:27 AM

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You mean like

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I can stack doom

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then keep dashing through enemy

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and he will keep gettimg hit ?

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:27 AM

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I mean if you get merciful end, athena dash, and doom attack

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the attack applies doom, the dash activates the doom

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so if you dash attack, it should immediately apply and then activate doom

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Yeah but I expect it to consume doom

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Then there is no point of dashing multiple times

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Since you have to stack again

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:29 AM

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So ideally, each dash attack immediately applies and executes the doom

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:29 AM

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Doom early activation feels nice, but not many Attack/special is low enough in Base damage that having doom on them is better than percentage boost.

the one i can think of is Bow special

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:29 AM

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you can't stack doom

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:30 AM

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Oh

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I thought there was a boon

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or that

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might have misremembered

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:30 AM

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unless you have dire misfortune, but with dire misfortune, applying doom before it resolves only adds 8ish damage to the original doom, which is typically 100+

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:30 AM

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that Stacking like He said is very underpowered

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:30 AM

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I see

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Idk if I want to do it anymore then

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:31 AM

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but

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merciful end cause doom to resolve immediately upon being hit by a deflect

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Is dash frequent enough to keep up with some high frequency attacks?

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:32 AM

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so if you have doom attack, athena dash, and merciful end, you can dash attack and activate doom with nearly every dash attack

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:32 AM

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Hm

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okay I can try I guess

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Doesnt sound as fun as stacking doom then unleashing an execute

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but might still be fun

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:33 AM

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Well if the attack is faster than the dash, then the doom is applied, the dash activates the doom, then more doom is applied from the attack

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so yeah

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:33 AM

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maybe I pick up hunting blades in the process

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Maybe stacking doom can be strong but as far as the numbers stated, it seems very weak, and I've never noticed any noticeable dps increase taking dire misfortune, even with fast attacking weapons, but some people say it can work

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:34 AM

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Whats Ares legendary do

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:34 AM

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I think I'll try that on the spear, since that frequency of attack feels just right for the atk dash combo

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:35 AM

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it adds 1 extra damage to each hit of the blades

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:35 AM

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Stacking doom is Also way weaker than hangover

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:35 AM

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which includes ares cast, ares call and ares dash

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yeah dire misfortune needs an overall

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overhaul

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but ares legendary is incredibly good

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:36 AM

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hunting blades and the boon That pulls people in, and the Legendary, can win games w/ 1 cast stone

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:36 AM

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They should make you be able to stack like 3 but each one dealing 1/2 of the previous one

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:36 AM

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paired with the ares/artemis duo gives you the infamous blender build

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yeah 8 damage per stack is just silly

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:37 AM

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I love blender build

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top 3 builds

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:37 AM

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Ironically, like half of my fists builds to 20 heat ended up being ares cast builds with stygian soul mirror

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:37 AM

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I think the stacking thing need to be able to be applied by any Source of dmg instead of just Doom applying ones

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Oh yeah, stygian Soul is op w/ extra cast stones

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:38 AM

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It's op as is

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and with extra cast stones its just nutsy

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:38 AM

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I'm on a new Hell save pushing 15 atm, while streaming

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there was one game I got 5 cast stones for a few rooms

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:39 AM

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You can't even use 5 casts

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:39 AM

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4 extra, no artemis legendaey

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:39 AM

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unlessyou have flurry

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because they regenerate before you've casted all of them

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:40 AM

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Kinda, and Flurry doesn't show up w/ stygian Soul iirc, since I've never Met one after I switched to it

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Pardon my caps, phone auto correct being dumb

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:41 AM

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yeah you're probably right

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although if thats the case, they should make it so it can appear once you get 3+ casts regardless

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flurry is great with ares because it makes the blades move faster

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which could be bad unless you have hunting blade

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:42 AM

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Ahh, I'd opt for hera aspect myself should I Try for 25+ heat w/that

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Actually, I might just try it rn, should game give me the bow on darkness bonus. People say it saves distance on blades

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:45 AM

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I used hera a lot at lower heats but don't touch it at high heats

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I can't imagine using anything but dio cast for hera

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but like I said, I haven't touched it in a moment

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Interesting, i guess you can cast blades from a distance. Still, the build sounds like it requires a lot of things before it comes online

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Stygian soul or the og cast?

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:48 AM

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Stygian, should I pref.

I'm good at distancing myself from danger so low dps is not that much a problem unless I go for tight deadline 7 min.

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And, having artemis in the build means bow's going to be more agile since dash atk dmg bonus makes the primary efficiency way way higher. It can carry the early encounters

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:49 AM

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I don't touch tight deadline unless I'm trying anything above 32

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But definitely go for it, I've been wanting to branch out in out i tend to try and steer my builds

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:50 AM

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Well...for me I just picked it when I feel like something more than 15, and I went for the plume too

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:51 AM

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because I feel like i've been resorting to the sameish gods and hammers because that's what I feel is strongest

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:51 AM

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Oh my, I used to start w/artemis almost every gamr

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Since I do mostly cast build

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Yeah it's a pretty solid start though. I think athena might be my number one though

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:52 AM

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I mean....being defensive is fine, but no dmg means more chance for urself to make error

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:52 AM

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I actually haven't done a cast build in ages. I almost did them exclusively from 1-15 heats but stopped finding them reliable and requiring too much rng to go in my favor

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:53 AM

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I usually finish my games between 23 min to 25, as I tend to do glass cannon builds

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Athena dash is pretty much top priority on every single build except nemesis aspect sword

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and on the fists and nemesis sword as well, the attack works very well

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:53 AM

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Lol

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seems like I am going blender

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Also the call is one of my top priorities

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:54 AM

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got artemis special

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and the blades

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:54 AM

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Yes, but i usually don't go for it unless I cannot tank the dmg

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 9:54 AM

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and just got duo on asphodel miniboss

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:54 AM

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If you' haven't tried athena attack with athena dash on the twin fists though, it's definitely one to try out

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:55 AM

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There are times where I just use 2 dd to tank hades and kill him in under 1 min w/huge dmg

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:55 AM

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Yeah it depends on the weapon and aspect

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:55 AM

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And I...have to admit I usually abuse bone hourglass for regen

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And for extra hades fight bonus, ofc

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Its a great keepsake

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Op imo :p

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:56 AM

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by the way, when you take feather, do you take it at the beginning and just keep it the whole run?

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:56 AM

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Yep, after I maxed It

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I rarely use that but I like using It w/ tight deadline

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Just for funzies

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:57 AM

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I don't like it because I feel like being able to access the other boons on the way up adds much more value for me even if I happen to level it up a ton

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On lowish heats its fun though for sure

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:57 AM

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And actually Got a speed record of 22:03 on 15 heat? I think, w/ It

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I just go full facetank that run I think

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Oh yes I sometimes even switch 4 times during a run

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3

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 9:58 AM

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If it let you keep like a third of what you built up when you change it out, I think it'd balance it out a lot more

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 9:59 AM

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A third imo is fine, but abusing that in tartarus might still be real good

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:01 AM

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I also have a hard time taking anything but broken spearpoint into styx. Occasionally Ill take lucky tooth if I'm running guan yu, but the 1.5 second shield is so valuable for some many things in styx and hades

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:11 AM

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Oh

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my god

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this is the most op run I have had

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Hunting blades, hermes legendary, ares legendary, all blade rift upgrade boons

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Artemis secind cast that does less damage

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Now all I need is artemis legendary and I can kill final boss in 10 secs lmak

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:13 AM

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What weapon and aspect? not that it really matters

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:13 AM

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fists (sadly nit magnet ones) that power up

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With artemis special

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:14 AM

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Yeah for some reason I got the most cast builds with fists

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I think cast builds work well with a fast attack

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I really want to try a high heat eris rail cast build

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fast attack can add a lot of utility

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:20 AM

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yu0

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killed hades in like 1 min

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:22 AM

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thats the blender build for ya

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:23 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/511150303022678020/695216518706757682/unknown.png

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Also had aphrodyte call

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So second phase he died in like 15 seconds

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He would have died even faster if he didnt have that short time of invulnerability

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:24 AM

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It's the limiting factor

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:25 AM

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Yup I know

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:25 AM

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I haven't had it myself, but i've heard ares call with the blender build is a big ol cherry on top

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:28 AM

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Possibly could have been with all the blade rift buffs

trim coral Apr 2, 2020, 10:29 AM

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which aspect should i max first for the gloves

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talos or demeter

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:29 AM

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depends on the builds you like

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Status effects or cast

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or zeus

trim coral Apr 2, 2020, 10:30 AM

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idk honestly cause idk what aspect is better

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im kind of just using the zagreus one right now

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 10:30 AM

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I like both of them

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:47 AM

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@dense locust
https://imgur.com/wVPUNRL

Imgur

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Sorted through my screenshot history, this is literally the best that can get. So yeah it needs some more application methods

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:48 AM

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lol let me know if it feels strong

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oh

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:48 AM

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It...I think it was a win, but it's heat 12 so, u know

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10*

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:49 AM

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Its just... you need 10ish hits for it to deal about the same amount as a level 1 doom

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epic doom

balmy zephyr Apr 2, 2020, 10:49 AM

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If a boon buffs attack does it also buff the dash attack?

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:49 AM

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yes

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

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And here comes a weird thing

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

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It's just so bad....

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I got the triple dash atk on spear, got a atk modifier, it's achilles aspect, and have a demeter atk

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Unless the tooltip is wrong

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

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but they seems to not stack fully

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:50 AM

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like how critical rend is wrong

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:51 AM

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oh and the dash atk bonus from both chaoes and artemis

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but the dmg i do w/ the triple dash atk is just, not 1-shotting things

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it's roughly 500 w/ all those combined, even including the cast stone bonus

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Even if these dmg bonuses are just additive, they should be huge enough to 1-shot anything below 4 digit health

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well, 3-shot, but u know what I mean

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:53 AM

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If you had artemis, aphrodite, athena, or demeter attack, you'd doing at least double, probably, triple or more dps (assuming you mean you have doom attack with that)

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It effectively adds 39 per triple dash attack, maybe 78 if you get it it in twice before doom activates

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:56 AM

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Oh I mean another thing, Not the doom thing

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:57 AM

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I suppose it could be good at heroic, leveled up, and with eris rail

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:57 AM

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Just another weird build tangent I went on cuz I saw something

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Since someone mentioned dash atk

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Oh yeah rereading you made that clear

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Oh And that's chaoes shield special, if we are about to talk about the screenshot.

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:58 AM

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Well that does make it better lol

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:58 AM

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So It's actually good but mostly just the aoe doom

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 10:59 AM

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I guess dire misfortune does still just add dps

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 10:59 AM

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Yep, but still minimal

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I did get the doom activation delay later iirc

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:00 AM

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with impending doom and everything is high rarity and/or leveled, it could be significant

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but I doubt it gets close to other dps builds

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:02 AM

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Pretty much, I think I lost No dd to hades but mainly cuz it's the shield

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Chaoes aspect shield imo is just a less clunky version of chiron aspect, in that matter low tolerance build is still the best for them imo.

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aspho on atk, dio on special, ofc

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:05 AM

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I just had a great run going trying to clear 33 hell mode heat with the bow, but then I got greedy and chose a chaos portal while I had another chaos punishment still active (-5 health for using special) along with approval process. I was given the option for increased darkness for 50ish% enemies for the next 4 encounters, or +75%ish attack damage for -5 health for attack for the next 3 encounters. I thought I had 3 encounters at least left until the hydra but it turns out there were just two....

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:05 AM

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holy

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prob should go for darkness if u have darkness regen

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:06 AM

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If I pulled it off, I probably would have snowballed and owned that run (had athena dash and athena call, a bunch of great boons...)

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but yeah

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I killed phase 1 and 2 with athena dashes and stygian soul standard cast

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:07 AM

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pain

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:07 AM

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actually not phase 2,

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:07 AM

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compainion used?

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:07 AM

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bouldy

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:07 AM

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oh i mean if u used compainion on them ofc

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:07 AM

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I honestly should actually just try and repeat that seed

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I had like 200 health, epic aphro attack, rare artemis special, epic athena dash, level 3 common athena call

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:08 AM

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jez

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i myself is actually a artemis call user

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:08 AM

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triple shot on the bow is no joke

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:08 AM

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skipping phases by 1 button is actually pretty insane

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:08 AM

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you can dash attack really quickly and still pump out damage, and then with chiron, throw out specials from afar

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:09 AM

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yep, it's pretty nasty

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Didn't they change that though? i heard you can't skip hydra phase 2 anymoe

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:09 AM

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but imo that special can use something like demeter or dio

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oh i mean "skip" as in

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they go out of impervious

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:09 AM

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Yeah demeter special is what I usually go to

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:09 AM

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then they go into that immediate due to huge dm

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dmg*

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Well I heard they fixed the ability to run up and immediately enter phase 2 due with the companion damage

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 11:10 AM

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Ok just did the doom build

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its not that bad

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:10 AM

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but i guess thats different

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:10 AM

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oh yeah

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 11:10 AM

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killed bosses pretty fast

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:10 AM

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what i usually do is just, wait for impervious end, press epic artemis call lvl 6, then they die or become impervious again

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yeah, doom is good if u need to bob and weave around and hit boss once very few in a while

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:13 AM

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You mean during hades?

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 11:13 AM

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me?

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Anyways, check this one out too

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another happy and pain moment
https://imgur.com/rzsZBWH

Imgur

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 11:52 AM

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oof

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I hate when that happens

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But I would always take hunting blades

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over all of those

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the +1 on legendary isnt consistent

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if you dont have hunting blades

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or unless you specialised for call

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 11:56 AM

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Yeah i'd agree with that

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Engulfing vortex can work sometimes though

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 11:57 AM

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True

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I forget that exists

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But still wouldnt be as good for bosses

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Which imo is the best reason to do a rift blade build

sullen valley Apr 2, 2020, 12:03 PM

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The Butterfly and Hestia pair so well together

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What doesn’t pair well with the butterfly though is 30% special speed, auto-revenge, and 2 Festive Fogs

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well they do but like

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There were so many explosions and particles in a battle versus Theseus I wondered what hit me when the butterfly was downed and I was like

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:05 PM

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man, walking into elysium with a total of 4 boons found, 2 of which I had to sell

sullen valley Apr 2, 2020, 12:05 PM

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“Oh, a stray bullet from Theseus’s Chariot punched me.”

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Rip

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:14 PM

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wtf literally traversing elysium with 2 boons and 2 hammers

sullen valley Apr 2, 2020, 12:15 PM

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Pfffffffffff

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That’s some

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Good Luck, man

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:16 PM

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If the hammer is good thonkHappy2

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I think I once entered elysium w/ only artemis cast lvl 6 and zeus atk on lvl 6, but the fist has longer range and does +5 dmg per atk

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Meanwhile I got 3 athena boons in a row

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today

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:21 PM

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wow eff that run

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:21 PM

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Dash call special

GG

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:22 PM

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I honestly could have held out if i got patroclus and like one or two more boons

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I was offered a total of 5 boons plus 2 chaos

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at about 8 chambers into elysium

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Ouch

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Is there somewhere a list of likliness to get a certain room per chamber ?

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Like how first elysium chamber is likely to be a hammer and if isnt you can reroll into it

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:25 PM

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Pick hidden chambers and trap dmg

sly sonnet Apr 2, 2020, 12:26 PM

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And how first tartarus is 90%, of the time boon or darkness

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:26 PM

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For me 50% is key

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I don't mind an extra persuation

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Btw, what are u guys' priority towards account-reward chambers?

For me it's nectar~=darkness>key>>gems

stiff flume Apr 2, 2020, 12:32 PM

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does increasing my affinity with gods make their boons have a higher chance for being better rarity? 🤔

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:32 PM

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I don't believe so

stiff flume Apr 2, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Thonk

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is there some other benefit to increasing it currently

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:33 PM

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Well hammers and hermes boons are different than other boons so if you ignore them, they'll start to appear more. I've seen the item pool explained before but i mostly go off my own experience

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:38 PM

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Hammer is 2 max but would reappear often.

Hermes is 2 max excluding final shop and in that matter similar to Hammer

solid cairn Apr 2, 2020, 12:42 PM

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Does Hermes work with family favorite

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:42 PM

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yes

solid cairn Apr 2, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Chaos?

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:43 PM

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no

solid cairn Apr 2, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Aight that makes sense

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Family fav is pretry underrated 2bh

solid cairn Apr 2, 2020, 12:43 PM

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Kind of

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Depends on the weapon

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Yeah it's my standard unless I plan on getting an easily appliable double status

naive laurel Apr 2, 2020, 12:44 PM

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I myself doesn't go for debuff often, so fam fav becomes omni-preseny

solid cairn Apr 2, 2020, 12:44 PM

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Stuff like nemesis sword you want it

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Privileged status

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Other ones like rail yeah family favorite is probably the best option

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:44 PM

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hmm why nemesis for Privileged?

solid cairn Apr 2, 2020, 12:45 PM

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You’re most likely gonna go aphro attack

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And at that point you just need 1 more effect

dense locust Apr 2, 2020, 12:45 PM

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yeah but that's where it can get dicey

solid cairn Apr 2, 2020, 12:45 PM

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Put it on cast