cause dual shot + explosive shot+artemis blessing is pure dumb
#h1-builds-and-combat
hybrid galleon
dense locust
Happy leap year all
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683257444071112714/unknown.png
Heck yeh. Special fish.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683257482201792522/unknown.png
Also what are the odds? I did buy light of ixion but still... I've never really had this happen.
Don't have enough heat... So the choice is made but....
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683264186263928846/unknown.png
Run of special fish it seems.
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683269474744664064/unknown.png
I think this might be my slowest run yet...
To think I used to prefer the bow at the beginning...
Anyone have any bow tips? (Also the boons I got were... well a mess. It was a mess. Flood shot I got at the very last moment instead of Ares's blades. )
Most of the run I didn't even have any boon for my attack.
dense locust
The bow is probably the trickiest because none of the hammers and aspects can get as broken as some of the other weapons
Also the other 2 aspects really suffer at low levels
My build for the bow usually ends up being a hybrid build unless im going for a full cast build
Also, if you're using a controller without aim assist, its pretty hard to hit attacks, and if you are using aim assist, it can be a big pain sometimes to hit the target you want
One type of build would be max out Chiron aspect, throw diyonusys or demeter special on it if you can, try and get ares attack preferably with chain shot, and get some defense like extra dashes from hermes, or dodge etc, maybe poseidon call for extra damage if it shows up. The chain shot will apply doom to multiple enemies and hit an enemy towards the back, while the chiron bow will pierce all of the enemies in front of the target until they hit that target, applying a lot of hangover or chill
and dont over look a cast with a couple of levels
Ive also had a ton of fun with triple shot and explosive shot hammers together if it ever comes up. And of course, you'll get runs that just suck due to rng
scarlet urchin
Thank you that's good advice.
I am using a mouse and keyboard. But still use aim assist because in the midst of dashing away and shooting to try not to get hit precise aiming is just... not going to happen.
I was on pretty low heat this run and was struggling.
Whilst with other weapons I'm all beyond 5. (Slowly building up not skipping heat levels.)
And with the shield and railgun I'm at 10 now.
And I have no idea how you could possibly use the bow at higher heat levels.... It's mainly just.. too slow?
With the amount of enemies that spawn you just can't shoot enough arrows and deal enough damage fast enough to keep up.
Perhaps next run with the bow if I do one I'll see if it goes any better following your advice.
I'm curious what everyone else thinks about using the bow and how they like to use it.
I think the biggest difference is that the bow makes you stand still whilst you attack. All the other weapons keep you mobile for the most part.
ripe parrot
I enjoy the bow a lot, especially with Hera aspect, it's probably my second most used weapon at this junction.
dense locust
I think the bow can also rely a lot on the hammers
For some builds
Like when I get artemis attack, explosive shot and triple shot, I basically go melee and dash attack
scarlet urchin
I'm not all that familiar with builds yet. I've mostly just being going through runs trying things out as they come to me.
Focusing on completing the fated list as a goal.
ripe parrot
If you can get a Poseidon cast Boon w/ Hera aspect and his Boon that makes his stuff knock back twice it's pretty fun.
soft harbor
Strongdongs Chiron build is essentially the same as mine, I recommend that as well
scarlet urchin
In any case I'm goign to try draw some fanart I've been meaning to. N ow I have time in the weekend.
dense locust
For myself, I tend to try and focus on getting good defense through hermes dodge, damage mitigation, extra dashes, poseidon or athena call, lots of hp
ripe parrot
Exciting! What are you drawing?
soft harbor
Gotta have Chiron upgraded to at least 5 special arrows for it not to be mostly trash though
dense locust
and then get a decent cast for damage and adapt to what I get
ripe parrot
Chiron is the seeking Special one, right?
soft harbor
Yea
ripe parrot
Arte's crit is definitely good on that.
dense locust
Yeah I agree 5 is about where it becomes viable
Unless you're like me and you get a hammer the very first room for plus 4 arrows
ripe parrot
I seem to be super lucky with Hammers
That being said
I still have never gotten all 3 in a run
Only two
dense locust
Also don't be afraid to give up if its early and you recognize that the current seed would be better suited to a different build or even a different weapon
2 is max
dense locust
If you get a hammer very first room with epic zeus attack and you have bow, consider just giving up and doing a run with the rail
the seed will remain so you are guaranteed an epic zeus attack on the rail unless your keepsake forces a different boon
sorry not hammer
if you get a zeus boon first room is what i should have said
ripe parrot
When does the seed actually change, then? When exiting and entering the weapon room?
dense locust
If you die or win
dense locust
Ive reset at the first boss before because the game was basically shouting at me to choose a different weapon
ripe parrot
I guess it makes sense since it essentially reverts to your last save before leaving the pact room
dense locust
yeah
ripe parrot
Thanks for the heads up
dense locust
np
I feel like the shields block ability should be chance based instead of guaranteed
like 80% chance, but not guaranteed
sacred folio
That'll just flood the feedback channel with angry posts
dense locust
haha
It just feels unfair to just sit there knowing you can't be hurt if you know the enemies attacks
sacred folio
If it's a consistent % of damage reduction people would be less surprised when it doesn't block successfully.
earnest ravine
As is, the moments when the hitboxes bug out and hit you through a block are frustrating enough. Making that a feature would be ALMOST enough to make me consider dropping it.
dense locust
Even 90% block chance
I guess its lackluster on damage unless you've got zeus aspect, or some synergistic boons and hammers
earnest ravine
Yeah, making it not a guarantee would be like... why even bother? I don't particularly like staking my survival on luck when mine is notoriously bad to begin with.
dense locust
Is there a word for a hermes boon since its unique
earnest ravine
Don't think so.
dense locust
Ugh I hate increased foes from chaos. 61 enemies in a than room in elysium takes like 3 minutes
Wow trippy shot with fully loaded and dual shot makes for quite the secondary damage source
finite violet
yeah i once took an epic chaos boon that was like 60+% enemies in elysium and the next four rooms took an age and a half
ripe parrot
Not my quickest run
But by far the most bountiful in Boons
Three Duos!
Was using Zeus aspect shield.
Had Support Fire too so every hit the shield Special had proc'd like 6 different DOTs
Somehow didn't find a single Call Boon that I wanted tho
finite violet
exclusive access is so good, esp if you manage to get it in tartarus (like i managed to on one run from sheer luck)
dense locust
Okay Im ready to say that if you don't have at least 1 extra dash, but ideally 2 or 3, or if you don't have 100% increased moved speed after dash, you're going to have a much harder time on hades. Third option is leveled up athena call.
ideally with second wind
and by much harder, i mean you're likely to die (if at 10 or above heat)
glad flume
I don't sympathize with enemies in a single player game
final warren
@dense locust I used to think that, but there are alternatives. I am (very slowly) learning that mashing dash is not always key. I mean, I have had six dashes once, that was indeed very fun. But I am also learning to live with less dashes.
naive tusk
Extra movement speed helps a lot for evading the chariots on FO 
untold widget
Hey, when is the next patch again? Don't have access to the game right this minute
(Ping me if you can, ty)
jagged cairn
@untold widget 11 Days
untold widget
Ty ty
chrome geyser
HOLY
I am just having a unhealthy fixation chiron bow run
AND ASTERIUS STRAIGHT UP MURDERED THESEUS FOR ME
The one time I want the beyblade boi to spin
Did not know this interaction was a thing.
scarlet urchin
Wait. What? How?
sacred folio
Fast attacks + Aphrodite's legendary = Perma charmed boss
Managed to find a video showcasing it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS7cL384D_M
chrome geyser
For the FB; it last less than a second
But with asterius it lasted longer
So when I was focusing down asterius; he started spinning. And he was charmed mid spin.
I did not realize theseus drove inside; and straight up got murdered by the spin.
Asterius started spinning again; and charmed again.
Theseus did the call; but only two spears of artemis tried to attack me before he was dead.
Asterius confirmed for best companion?
I pretty much have no damage; but gonna go fight the FB
OOOOH I got the deflect while charmed one shots boss.
I'm good.
gloomy scroll
Yep, Asterius definitely best companion
naive tusk
Yay, new PB for @chrome geyser ๐
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683384824341200917/unknown.png
This was a fun run.
Not at all what I expected it to be but damn was it fun especially in the tiny rooms of the Styx temple to just.... blast things with charged shot and see them bounce around.
scarlet urchin
Well damn. I want to try get that once that sounds fun too. ^^:
pastel tangle
It was actually dumb, for once I got everything cast related when I tried
chrome geyser
Yeah these runs where everything comes together is just 
I just lost a good guan yu run ๐ข with FB had around 1000 HP left.
A poseidon boon guarantees smooth sailing in styx. Generally so good if you ask me.
scarlet urchin
.... those hurt the most, when you're so close...
chrome geyser
You can select the rest of your boons to be good against single targets for boosses; and just dash for regular rooms.
Well; i'm thinking and maybe sticking with forced overtime at level 40% is not a very good idea.
Cause i have been doing no heat runs to get used to using a controller; and using my currently superior MK skills to farm the bounties.
And going back and forth between forced overtime and no forced overtime; i have to say the animations SUCK in forced overtime.
The enemies barely have tells.
I find myself indiscriminently dashing to avoid getting hit; rather than reacting.
So I'm gonna try toning it down and see how it goes.
scarlet urchin
yea... I'm trying to get used to forced overtime 20% now and... I can't imagine what 40% is like...
chrome geyser
Well try it at least once. I like the fast pace; pacing seems more like the bastion's speed up idol. But the animations and some timing stuff are really bad.
Like skullcrusher and megagorgon pretty much means you lose at least one DD
And unless you are ranged; elysium speary bois are a nightmare.
And FB needs a lot of attention lol. It's not undoable. I'm 1 guan yu victory away from reaching 15 heat with all weapons.
formal basin
Honestly, I've had overtime on for so long I don't even notice anymore. Yep, some things are fast and it makes stuff hard.
scarlet urchin
like I can manage 20% (Somewhat) but 40% overtime?
How do you dodge Asterius unless you're lucky and got something from Hermes to speed you up?
chrome geyser
Well; hermes boons are crucial. But asterius has good animation on 40% actually.
scarlet urchin
I mostly mean his charge.
chrome geyser
I just dash when he jumps on me
You can dash away. BTW if you dash as asterius hits you while charging; you can avoid the damage
astral magnet
can't you just dash directly into his charge to avoid it
chrome geyser
Yeah. This is what I do nwo
scarlet urchin
ok. so sometimes that works for me sometimes that doesn't... Guess I'd have to time it better.
chrome geyser
he hits where you were; but iframes protects you.
That timing i got; i barely get hit by the charge anymore.
scarlet urchin
I'm not sure if I'll ever get to that stage I'm quite determined but I'm not good at games.. ^^:
chrome geyser
Dash has a little windup animation though; that becomes so annoying in forced overtime. You can get staggered and clobbered easily.
Neither am I Luna4s; don't sweat about it.
Don't play if you are not having fun with it; that's the rule no 1.
I mean don't play with that heat level.
I enjoy progressively getting better in games. That's why I like SGG; the adjustable difficulty levels are pretty fun.
But I still think there are many things that could use polishing.
scarlet urchin
Yea see that's where my stubbornness becomes my downfall.
I just got clobbered in the Asterius Theseus fight.
Last run I did great but I had much better boons. This run..... well the fates weren't in my favour.
I didn't get any hermes boons until last moment. And the choice I got was either faster special faster cast. (Both rare)
Or a normal get extra speed after you dash.
Which I took because... I knew without any extra speed I'd definitely not make it.
chrome geyser
Extra speed after dash is my favourite boon.
Allows you to dodge FB's spins really well.
I usually take it over the legendary return boon.
scarlet urchin
I like it a lot too though it sometimes gets too drifty....
It can get you in trouble in Aspodel
pallid python
if you ever have trouble clearing a run just go for the fully upgraded aspect of chaos shield, it's extremely easy to clear with, it works well with any special upgrade and most importantly, the charge up stance protects you from pretty much anything, Asterius charge, daddy's lasers, poisonous darts, you name it,not sure if there's any attack that pierces that block, by far my favourite weapon even if Guan Yu is op
pallid python
Dated a girl recently, we hit it off, we had a pretty good connection going, liked the same things, went traveling, made some memories, made plans for the future, we were ready to conquer the world together, then we started talking about Hades I learned she never greets the supportive shade in Elysium.
Instantly full on ghosted her, can't believe I loved such a monster.
scarlet urchin
Well you need to realise there is a supportive shade first.
I actually somehow didn't notice it at first... I just heard the dialogue and kind of missed it.
Idk how.
last nacelle
What if the bow had a shield.
proud storm
the reverse exists
chrome viper
it'd be a shieldbow
proud storm
charged shot shield hammer
dense locust
Supportive shade story progression or riot
chrome geyser
Oh nice. 2 chaos and artemis legend?
waxen furnace
yep! and a temporary item to bring it to 9
chrome geyser
Hope you also had a flurry cast, it gets tiresome casting all those casts.
waxen furnace
exit wounds + flurrycast + poseidon blade made this a fun run
chrome geyser
I want one of those runs sometime soon.
I just finished grinding to heat 15 with all the weapons. Got a while till i truly gitgud to collect all the bounties.
proper jolt
How good is explosive shot for the bow plus double shot?
I'm trying to use the bow alot more
pallid python
well try it out see how you fare with it :D
proper jolt
Ok!
pallid python
just spent 10 minutes playing along Orpheus' Voiceless good riddance by using the keepsake selection sounds :D
jamming with my boy
ocean mango
Just beat 32 Heat. Phew!
I feel like the shield is considerably better / easier to win with than the other weapons
pallid python
Ye I agree
it just does everything well
And the fact that you get a built in 'acorn' without a cooldown is very nice
ocean mango
I really can not remember what the acord does lol
proper jolt
It makes you immune to boss attacks for a certain number
ocean mango
Ah
Yeah the shield makes it so much easier to avoid attacks. With other weapons you really need to keep track of the timings of the bosses' moves
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683439459143909378/unknown.png
Got just enough.
ocean mango
With the shield you hold attack and wait for the "plink" ๐
I don't think I've ever bought one of those from Charon there
And I have 104h play time...
pallid python
xd
ocean mango
(holy crap, just checked and was surprised)
Btw, do you get annoyed at how long you have to wait after a dash to get a normal attack instead of a dash attack?
e.g with the shield, you have to wait so long after a dash to get the attack that pushes enemies away
pallid python
I just click twice to get the charge up going after the dash attack
ocean mango
Yeah I don't mean the bull rush
ocean mango
The dash attack and the normal attack look almost identical
But the dash attack doesn't push enemies away
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683442666293297173/unknown.png
Lost a lot of DD's along the run... replaced two. Lost two in the FB.
... I've had smoother runs. Though I think it's mostly because i'm a bit too tired and should really sleep. ^^:
pallid python
Not a meta-slave 
scarlet urchin
I actually ironically seem to do best with Zagreus aspect...
I've used Achilles aspect for a good while too before that.
digital axle
Guan Yu is new to me, I like the challenge of bosses when I have half HP and can recover tiny bits if the boss gives me a moment to charge a spin
ocean mango
Guan yu + deflect attack is crazy
chrome geyser
Dash reflect is very useful.
But as i play more; i kinda feel like i need it less; and go for some other dashes now.
I used to complain about dionysus dash; but I retract my statement.
It is pretty powerful. And enables blackout which is amazing with the right build.
chrome geyser
BTW; here is a PSA on why run building is important. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2010726676
I never try to go full one god; but dio is good dps once you feed a couple poms.
The good thing about dio is the poms don't taper off in usefullness beyond level 3; unlike other boons.
ocean mango
Huh yeah I guess you're right.
chrome geyser
(Since they can't do damage per tick lower than 1)
For example; dio dash deals 3 dps.
ocean mango
The percentage "terminology" for the other boons gets sort of confusing sometimes
chrome geyser
Feed it all the poms; you can bring that up to 10; which (with boons) can be 160 dps
Every percentage is additive.
ocean mango
yeah exactly
chrome geyser
On top of the base weapon damage.
ocean mango
Which isn't really super intuitive. That's the exact opposite of scenarios you usually deal with when using % numbers
chrome geyser
It would make the game super easy if not so.
You can still deal 2000 damage per hit if you build for it.
ocean mango
Yeah true. It could just say "Makes your special deal X extra damage"
Just do the calculation and tell you the number
chrome geyser
They do need to clarify; yes.
The issue is; weapons have varying damage depending on the stuff.
ocean mango
Especially when artemis crit does seem to be applied on top of the other ones
chrome geyser
Like sword deals 20-20-30 damage in a combo
ocean mango
Hm yeah
chrome geyser
The spear is like 20-25-30.
ocean mango
Btw, do you feel the first-bullet-aspect with the rail is super strong?
chrome geyser
I would like to see a stat screen with what +X% you are though
No
the issue is you need to reload; reposition and fire; and you need to be way more accurate
ocean mango
one shot -> reload -> repeat easily out dpses the other aspects, and you even get to be more agile and shoot special in between
chrome geyser
Guan yu special easily out-dps's it.
And has better reach; since it pierces and has a higher area
ocean mango
Comparing with the other rail aspects
I just do the following in a loop: Shoot, start reload, shoot special during reload, dash away while still reloading
chrome geyser
On MK; aiming the rail is a bit difficult. So I like playing with eris which leads to better styles. But it becomes an absolute monster with an artemis build (dash-attack and crit on attack and extra crit chance)
if your build comes together.
chrome geyser
I like it cause i don't really have to aim. But I like MK much more for the bombardment
Much easier to tactically drop the bomb.
ocean mango
Yeah I can understand that
chrome geyser
Eris is amazing; cause that 60% is on EVERYTHING
ocean mango
I just spam special whenever I'm reloading, and treat it as a nice bonus if it hits anything
chrome geyser
I think it even effects things like hangover damage and zeus chain lightning.
Also allows your build to diversify; better bonus cast damage than poseidon.
ocean mango
I rarely ever use Casts, really : /
chrome geyser
I found the way to play eris aspect good is to have a dash that deals with AoE; since the special is unreliable.
ocean mango
Mostly just with the sword
chrome geyser
I see casts as it can fill in a problem enemy in your build.
Like; your build can clear rooms well but very lacking vs bosses.
ocean mango
(cough cough poseidon cough)
chrome geyser
So you grab a cast that helps with that. Maybe hunting blades for example.
Poseidon is bae
ocean mango
Hella weak against bosses if you've gone for the enemies-bounce-allover-the-place build
chrome geyser
I like poseidon and zeus together. Then go all in on both.
Their duo benefits so much from both their boons.
naive tusk
I suggest you try Sea Storm with multiple hitting weapons. Itโs awesome
chrome geyser
Also poseidon legendary works on bosses; just does not move them.
I want to do a chiron bow zeus poseidon run if I can next.
ocean mango
I can't remember which one that is
chrome geyser
Doubles knockback effects after a little delay.
ocean mango
Ah
naive tusk
My suggestion overall is: do give each boon a try. You never know what youโll like if you havenโt tried them all ๐๐ผ
ocean mango
The first time I got to Hades I had that double push back together with explosions against walls
chrome geyser
The explosion against walls don't work vs the FB
ocean mango
FB?
ocean mango
Ah
chrome geyser
Yeah wave pounding was it? It does not work against bosses; cause they ignore knockback effects.
ocean mango
Do they completely? It feels like he moves a little bit
chrome geyser
But the lightning from sea storm (poseidon zeus duo; lightning on knockback) works twice.
ocean mango
Together with the double lightning is 4x lightning lol ๐
chrome geyser
And if you have splitting bolt; double volt from zeus; it repeats itself.
Well they do x3; but yes.
ocean mango
Huh? Don't both lightnings repeat?
chrome geyser
Since the sea storm is a bolt; and the splitting lightning is a chain lightning.
Only the bolts are doubled; not chain lightnings.
ocean mango
Oh
chrome geyser
but which means; anything that does knockback triggers from 4 to 6 lightning effects.
tall dove
Thoughts on this setup to get the final Skelly statue?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520451817323364352/683492351003459590/unknown.png
strange bay
no tight deadline?
tall dove
I fight super slowly since Lasting Consequences makes me scareder than usual of being hit
chrome viper
at least 1 rank in tight deadline, first rank isn't so bad
strange bay
i'd drop customs for a level of that
not being able to reliably build a run seems
worrisome
esp. if you don't get a lot of good boons early
tall dove
ah, right. My strat 'til now was to never get any Boons, only Hammers and Hearts, since that just makes that condition a non-factor
Can't be required to sell Hammer enchantments
strange bay
oh, chaos boons too
tall dove
yeah
strange bay
though I'd still be a little leery
tall dove
hm
Alright, I'll try it with Deadline, though I am certain I'm gonna end up dying to it lol
thx
strange bay
gl!
oh, I feel like I never get any decent results from infernal gates / challenge rooms / erebus
is that just b/c I'm bad, or
to be specific, earlygame erebus
tall dove
I can usually do the first Erebus I get, but am bad at the later ones
Guess that makes us even
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
strange bay
I might be too reliant on getting goofy builds together
I keep getting tagged by the splitters
or, like, the one splitter that spawns, on account of it being a final boss splitter
tall dove
What's your weapon?
My fave is the bow, but I think the one I'm best with is the shield
The built-in block is super useful, I've found
strange bay
shield, usually
I thrash around with the chaos shield a lot
throw a bunch of discs
might be served by athena aspect beyblade.
tall dove
Chaos is the one I've been going with, yeah
naive tusk
Good luck in that run! ๐ @tall dove
stiff stone
Get that statue m8! It's so worth it! You won't believe your eyes!
tall dove
Welp I died to Alecto so that wasn't the greatest
tbh Deadline is even more stressful than I remember, I'm taking a lot of damage trying to get thru stuff quickly
small gorge
https://imgur.com/a/GlFQgBV
hades smoothie served
small gorge
yeah yeah
twin shot explosive is a unfortunate but turn out its really good but not with hera
ripe parrot
Got Arte crit on Special and the Charge Special Hammer rn and two-shot Meg with two point blank charged specials OP
Have Addled Flourish too so some extra Special damage
This bow is now a close range nuke
tidal thorn
I feel like that's something I'd see on the slingshot channel.
ripe parrot
Have the Marked spread now so it's also a long range nuke. Got lucky and got a lot of special damage stuff early.
small gorge
i had my fastest ruin with charon 16 mins
but i thinks they fixed my combo
zeus special
lightning strike does less damage
called it Zeus fury
dense locust
The triple shot explosive shot melee shotgun bow is a blast if you ever get those hammers
Doesnโt even need to be the focus of the bow,
Well obviously it is the focus when you dedicate two hammers to it but it works still despite the aspect you chose
inland meadow
So here is the end of my god run with max Hestia Rail... not sure how much further I could have gone https://gyazo.com/6e48e38ab366f6967b8c98987c546833
earnest ravine
holy crud thats a lot of chaos
hybrid galleon
wait why can you have so many strike
while i can only have one before
also chaos strike icon be like arthur fist
balmy zephyr
I think chaos boons do not take up an attack/special boon slot
river jacinth
dense locust
Only the boons that directly correspond to attack, special, cast, dash, and call take up those spots
chaos boons can enhance damage from those but only the other gods can fill those slots
@inland meadow what hammers did you have? normally I don't like going for raw damage on attack but this is something else
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683625105825202195/unknown.png
Well that was veeery close.
I went in with very low health already.
But dang.
rancid shore
Looks like they had piercing and inescapable
ripe parrot
;; i was just on a super good run and it crashed
Plus I got like 2 of the Duos I still needed in the Codex
all lost
F
soft harbor
Tisiphone is by far my preferred Fury boss
the fight stops so often that it's so much safer imo
dense locust
That reminds me of my closest win over hades
I forget the build and heat but I remember I had 3 hp and no death defiance lefrt
left
Had to go to the doctor for some butt relaxants
ripe parrot
I'm so bummmmmeddddd
dense locust
Im sorry Cale
ripe parrot
I was like midway through Elysium and it was only the 12 min mark
soft harbor
consider then
soft harbor
that you only lost 12 minutes of your life
dense locust
Yeah an ares cast build where everything lines up is very satisfying
Well my favorite is Eris Rail
dense locust
Im trying to 32 heat the spear right now and I did ares keepsake because I knew the very first boon was chain shot daedalus hammer
zag aspect
ripe parrot
32 Heat feels so far away from me still
dense locust
You can literally shoot through columns and small walls
ripe parrot
I'm struggling back here in 4.
dense locust
and it dooms everything
Well once I got 20 I jumped to 32
So its not as far away as it seems
ripe parrot
What weapon do you main
dense locust
Eris rail is my jam though
only 32 is on that
A lot of aspects suck if they aren't leveled enough too
dense locust
I loved the cast one on sword because even at level 1, it was still useful to be able to recover casts
soft harbor
Extreme Measures is honestly not that bad; that's your first 5 heat for free more or less
dense locust
So I used that aspect from heats like 1-13
ripe parrot
Man the run that just crashed I had the Legendary Hermes Boon that automatically recalls casts
I was casting so often ;
dense locust
Yeah
soft harbor
I was scared of it at first, but really you'll start to prefer it because its pretty ez
dense locust
On 32 I always leave 3 heats untouched
ripe parrot
I've been using Extreme Measures and then now that I'm up a bit more, the 3 Heat one that makes foes attack/move 20% faster as well
soft harbor
are two of them No Choice and the Mirror One?
ripe parrot
Yeah but it really starts to backfire on me come the FB fight haha
soft harbor
oh you don't use Forced Overtime?
ripe parrot
In his second stage I get got
dense locust
yep
soft harbor
yeah, don't use Forced Overtime
dense locust
Its the one that reduces healing, no choice, the darkness restriction, and the time limit
soft harbor
it's like way harder than Extreme Measures
ripe parrot
I just use it because it makes them spawn in faster doesn't it
soft harbor
oh yeah, time limit one
dense locust
You get used to it though
ripe parrot
I should grab Acorn before FB next time and see if that influences my survivability any with it on and if not I'll just turn it off.
dense locust
And then when you go back, its amazing how everything feels covered in molasses
What does fb stand for
ripe parrot
Final Boss.
soft harbor
"final boss"
dense locust
ah
soft harbor
early on heat levels, Forced Overtime is like the hardest difficulty spike you can choose
ripe parrot
I just use it here because I'm operating under the assumption that it's still spoiler territory in this channel.
soft harbor
just make stuff hurt you a little more or something
ripe parrot
i want the difficulty spike tho
dense locust
So if you dont take the heat that reduces healing effectiveness, and you have sisy companion, you basically get 5 extra dd
Honestly 1 point in forced overtime is better than a lot that is forced on you with that 3 heat
Can you quit one save file in the middle of a run to play another?
I found a heat I might actually be able to do this with but It's also stressing me out lol
ripe parrot
Oh dang I haven't even finished a single run with the Rail I've been neglecting it hard
dense locust
And I just want to run some hell mode
Rail Eris is so good
+60% to all sources of damage while up
getting a good cast with a couple levels, zeus attack for massive chain lightning and jolted if you get it
And some of the hammers for the rail are nearly broken
ripe parrot
Ooh I'll equip the Zeus trinket and try to force that chain right away
dense locust
I do it nearly every time
soft harbor
that's what I do with Rail too
soft harbor
i'm not patient enough to use Eris, but I like Zeus Attack on Zag aspect
dense locust
but if you get certain hammers, other gods can make the attack great for crowd control and additional damage
ripe parrot
and of course i start with a hammer
ripe parrot
That refreshes the pool?
ripe parrot
Ahh.
dense locust
but you can use that to your advantage
ripe parrot
I went with Explosive Fire
dense locust
hammers are special and aren't considered god boons i guess
Yeeeeah
I love that one
ripe parrot
Also I'm like 70 runs deep so I know what Hammers are lol
dense locust
I like getting dionysus or demeter on it but idk how zeus works for it
ripe parrot
I was just annoyed that it spited me
dense locust
Ahh sorry I assumed you were mad because you thought the first boon wasnt zeus and the keepsake was wasted, my b
Its late lol
ripe parrot
Haha I figured, no worries.
Sometimes I'll get the Hammer first and won't even see the Zeus boon until like 3 - 4 Chambers deep because of Gems/Darkness
I almost exclusively start with the Zeus or Artemis trinket depending on my weapon
soft harbor
can i interest you in a Hammer room 1, Nectar room 2?
๐
dense locust
Dire misfortune should reapply doom despite there already being a charge on the enemy and then apply 10 extra damage to the doom. Although that would obviously make raill with ares attack broken but the boon sucks so much right now
ripe parrot
that's a rip too especially with the +1 level benefit
i wish it carried over to the next Boon you picked up
dense locust
lol you'll hopefully get attack when zeus finally shows up
yeah
that would be less annoying
soft harbor
yeah, that actually infuriates me. Nectar seems to show way less than the other 3, so when i get hit with one of those combos
:O
dense locust
Happened to me on my current run as well
soft harbor
even though Room 1 hammer is great
ripe parrot
It's happened to me like a handful of times now I was meaning to write about it in the suggestions
Maybe it already has been though
dense locust
I think the rarity goes darlness, gems, keys, nectar, coin, heart, boons, but thats just based on my experience
when I reroll a nectar I often get a god boon
soft harbor
you get a Boon rerolling nectar?
soft harbor
i dont know if i've ever rerolled Nectar so i didn't think about it
dense locust
but I also know its kinda complicated with different pools of available items
soft harbor
but I didn't think it could even do that
dense locust
Yeah the nectar coin and heart can reroll into a boon
soft harbor
I know Coin and Heart can
dense locust
and sometimes the key into a nectar, which is awesome when you have the boon that increases hp per nectar
soft harbor
I've seen them become hammers too
dense locust
Yeah the longer you've progressed without a hammer, the more likely for it to appear in a reroll i believe
True but If I get that hp from nectar boon early, Im a nectar fiend
Its like a heart and pom in on
one
ripe parrot
Ayy got Lightning Strike right away
dense locust
Curse of vengeance is required for impending doom?
Heck yeah
It makes the first level so much easier
dense locust
knock on wood
dense locust
Or go full zeus poseidon
melee rail dash attack
how does the explosive shot work with zeus
ripe parrot
Bro
dense locust
does it chain lightning everything hit by the attack?
dense locust
Now you see why I like the rail, and this is usually the side damage and good curse application
ripe parrot
It's so easy to go back to like 0 Heat after so long
dense locust
Oh yes
especially when you get used to maxed forced overtime
You play like a maniac and all the enemies are just chilling around
scarlet urchin
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616979133691592704/683641639235092480/unknown.png
This went quite well.
Bit of a rough start but it turned around in the end.
Got exclusive access in the temple of Styx but I think it really helped for the last couple boons I got.
ripe parrot
I won
pastel tangle
Just had a run with 2.5x gold. Got 500 from a Styx boss room 
hollow sorrel
It's pomegranate, coin, heart, boon, that are in the same reroll pool, because they all stop existing when that specific game is done
nectar still exists after the game is done, so it's in the other reroll pool
hollow sorrel
It means some of your game files got corrupted? It's not supposed to be part of the intended game code
dense locust
Could it be pre winter update?
hollow sorrel
I'm not sure; I didn't really pay attention very much to the game mechanics before this patch
dense locust
Im not positive ive had that happen since
hollow sorrel
If you update to the new patch, when it is released in a few days, then it would probably fix the issue, as the file that might be glitched would most likely be overwritten by a new version
dense locust
It might have just been pre winter update
hollow sorrel
ah, ok
hybrid galleon
@dense locust I wonder a mind map like a really intricate progress of starting how you get the boon of every chamber could help
dense locust
The more the merrier, but providing either a screen shot of everything you have along with a description of each boon or a shareable file would go a long way in actually understanding why a shared build was strong, or weak, or inbetween. You're right though, ideally a history of the entire run would be ideal. Wouldn't even be that much harder, just give a number next to every boon you have corresponding to chamber number, or a little icon to indicate it was a exclamation room or shop, or chaos
fresh grove
welp, i just noticed aphrodite ult roughly takes half a boss hp when full
i didnt really read the damage until now
hybrid galleon
laughs in artemis which nukes boss in general
the best part of aphrodite ult is not the damage
its stunlocking
dense locust
But is it that good for that?
fresh grove
yeah, but i hadnt used it like this until now, i only stunlocked, so it was nice
yeah
dense locust
you get one arrow per charge
hybrid galleon
@dense locust ||I had a level 3 purple artemis aid which nukes hades from full to half in stage 2||
dense locust
Oh i meant aphro for stun locking
hybrid galleon
Aphro at least could give you more time
it buys you time especially for hydra who just wont stop attacking you
dense locust
I usually prefer something that can save me like athena or poseidon
hybrid galleon
when in em
fresh grove
i use it the same way you would poseidon or athena
hybrid galleon
Poseidon is kinda... meh
dense locust
a level 3 or 4 athena call is like 3 seconds invul
hybrid galleon
I mean athena is basically that
fresh grove
and hades stops the attack
dense locust
And poseidon gives invul and huge damage while also repositioning
dense locust
But when you've got 2 dashes and no extra speed at the final boss
its a miserable time
dense locust
yes
fresh grove
i would think so
dense locust
unless there is some weird thing i didn't know about
hybrid galleon
but for some reason it only shows 1?
dense locust
really? ive had the same one before and they each took a slot
hybrid galleon
Hm
dense locust
One thing I realized today is that having a direct damage on dash can be useful for destroying pots. Did the upgraded first boss earlier and I was getting stuck behind pots and didnt have enough time to attack them without getting hit
hybrid galleon
Hmmm
dense locust
Obviously its a low priority as far as things to consider
But I think getting pots out of the way on some levels when you can could be useful
hybrid galleon
i thought they destroyed on one hit
small gorge
https://imgur.com/a/J7E8RU9
this is what i called nearly perfect
cant get aphro Dio dual boon
dense locust
I knew you could dash special, but I kinda just learned that if you dash before a certain point during sword special, you'll dash forward as the special is coming down. Its a lot easier to execute if playing with controller than trying to hit the buttons at nearly the same time
dense locust
I think it just takes practice on the timing
its immensely useful for doing faster special attacks without putting yourself in danger
dense locust
which is what Im using right now lol
pallid python
Decided to learn how to play Good Riddance, it's a very nice song to sing, even though I don't exactly have Ashley Barett's angelic voice or Darren Korb's for that matter :D
pallid python
I play on the guitar, but I could also try it on the Harp :o
small gorge
i think this song isnt hard base one what i lisened
small gorge
this song have simple chords after all
pallid python
something different, just looked up the voice actress for Eurydice's talking voice
small gorge
everythings good come from Ashley Barett and Darren Korb
pallid python
she has such cool eyebrows :D
small gorge
sad that eurydice and orpheus doesnt have voice of Ashley Barett and Darren Korb only song
finite violet
i really lucked out with this hera build https://gyazo.com/d0c55cc677a8ec4d0495c2008ff543bf
pallid python
well voice acting is a whole nother slice of pie compared to singing, so that's not that surprising to me
I think Eurydice's voice actress Francesca Hogan nailed it
My favourite voices belong to Meg, Artemis, Achilles, Eurydice, and Theseus, with Dusa getting an honorary mention, but since her voice is edited it's a little unfair to put her with those others :P
Other ones are fantastic as well, but those ones are my top of the list
also nice build @finite violet :D
lvl 7 cast, that's some high quality... fog
small gorge
if its poseidon sword
its gonna be hugeeeeeeeeee damage
like if u got artemis legendary 6 x >400 + 40% + 75%
<1m hades
finite violet
i was super lucky with poms, they let me upgrade festive fog every time (and my necter room rewards did the same, fates were smiling on me i guess)
woven hill
Woah lightning rod with hera sounds sick especially if you got that hermes early drop boon
WOOOOOO!!
omg zag finally played a good tune on his harp I'm so happy
atomic mist
Is there a list of good builds for 32+ heat anywhere? Can't seem to get past Elysium anymore 
pallid python
Personally I like the rail with piercing shot or whatever it's called, cause screw those shieldy guys and Theseus
atomic mist
And here's a hot take: Elysium archers are the absolute worst. Shield dudes are easy in comparison /out of the humanoid shade enemies that is
dense locust
If I can get athena five dashes and athena call, along with fast damage and second wind, then I know I might have a chance on 32
atomic mist
Yeah the extra dashes are almost necessary I feel
pallid python
Unless you play with Chaos Shield, then you can kinda slowroll the run
earnest ravine
I hate the spear ones more, personally.
pallid python
by waiting out moments, dashing, using special and chilling in block stance again
earnest ravine
Their reach can feel really, really wonky on 40% overtime and they can skip their attack animation sometimes.
dense locust
The spears are scary when you are melee
earnest ravine
Also, has anyone else had an issue where they like... INSTANTLY reespawn when you kill them on top of a weapon?
It's happened to me a lot on my higher heat runs and it's driving me up the wall.
atomic mist
It feels instant, yeah. Does forced overtime speed up their respawn time as well?
earnest ravine
It seems like they can skip the animation for it on spawn or something.
thanks for making me know i wasn't imagining it, though
atomic mist
And I'm doing these 32 runs with the chaos shield. I often can't get the shield up in time to block and it's really frustrating
That's why the dashes are so crucial
earnest ravine
Bull Rush is also really nice for a safer mobility move if you're not sure about your dash timing.
atomic mist
And then some enemies go through the shield, like Asterius can just straight up ignore it and hit you in the back
earnest ravine
There's actually a perfect block angle for asterius, but if you're off by a little it's painful.
Unless you mean the Extreme Measures spin in which case yeah you just. run
atomic mist
I meant the charge and yeah I learned that the hard way...
earnest ravine
Oh! Nah, the charge can be blocked just fine. It's actually hard for me to deal with it without the shield now because I'm too used to doing so.
earnest ravine
If you're a little off the center of his hitbox, the followup little line AOEs can smack you.
It's really annoying when it happens, though.
atomic mist
It's not even that, he has straight up ignored the shield, turned around, and hit me with the charge anyway
Must have been a weird angle
hollow sorrel
There's an issue with some of the attacks at close range. I'm assuming the hitboxes are so long, that if you're really close to the enemy, that the hitbox is hitting in front of you, and behind you, at the same time
quiet arrow
How do I unlock all the hidden aspects? So far I only have the aspect of Guan Yu
pallid python
Ongoing underworld renovations are to blame you mean
earnest ravine
Oh I mean of course, how could I be so mistaken
pallid python
quiet arrow
forgive me dusa ๐
chrome geyser
I found a new good rail build for attack.
Also involves zeus BUT
you get poseidon on attack; and try to get the duo.
Better damage per lightning; and you can increase it with poseidon legendary
Just need to force it if you don't find the proper gods.
autumn tree
Firt run playing with Hera bow
https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/09/7/1583076096-20200301134418-1.jpg
chrome geyser
Poseidon also gives decent attack +% so overall i think it is better.
autumn tree
This was one of my funniest run so far
chrome geyser
I love hera builds
when they work.
When they don't you pretty much die to hydra.
But congrats; it is so fun when it does
autumn tree
I was pretty lucky with this one
I two shoted the hydra heads i think
Made another run later with hera bow, artemis legendary and +1 cast thanks to Chaos
7 casts total if i recall correctly
And another run where i ended up dying against a random foe
autumn tree
will try thx!
chrome geyser
It's like being hawkeye and launching a bomb arrow
And demeter + zeus upgrade the cast to be crazy.
autumn tree
I didn't like the bow very much because i found it too slow but this aspect is fabulous
chrome geyser
The dream build is dio attack, cast, legendary, zeus duo and demeter duo.
+100% from dio legend due to hangover and fog. +50% from chill and hangover.
Hera is great when it does work; horrible otherwise.
Chiron is pretty good though.
In general; if you ask me the bow lacks AoE; the volley is very situationally AoE and does not deal near enough damage to be used as crowd control.
On chiron; it becomes your main damage; and on others it applies debuffs.
Bow definitely needs some crowd control ability. That is why i like poseidon dash on bow.
When you have that sorted out; bow is pretty high damage; it works really well.
But bow is glitched. On chiron; debuffs don't apply on every volley arrow due to hits registering too close to each other (with the hammer upgrade; instead of chill stacks maxing out; it's 11 arrows; one volley registers around 6 chill stacks)
And hera can yeet your casts out of bounds
autumn tree
I should used the Chiron aspect more, i hope i've only had bad luck so far bc i never deal a lot of damage with it and end up suffering for the whole run because of it
The Poseidon dash works well with it indeed
chrome geyser
So; to truly feel the power of chiron aspect; i suggest going with aphrodite on special; or aphrodite on attack and artemis on special; then shoot for their duo boon.
autumn tree
I will try that and see! thanks :)
chrome geyser
And value the hammer special upgrades. The charged volley is amazing. The +4 arrow per volley is also amazing.
small gorge
Chiron is my first max out so this is what my experiment
chrome geyser
The only flourish that does not work well with chiron is the zeus and ares ones I think.
small gorge
any effect boon will do just fine for the special
you only need to forcus on defense
its used to have ultimate combo with zeus special
hollow sorrel
I don't think the chiron bow is considered glitched. I think some abilities trigger a cooldown, which is unfortunately longer than the time between chiron's arrows.
small gorge
but its neft it so baddddd
first the number of arrow
then the lightning strike
so sad
chrome geyser
Everything else is pretty good. I like aphrodite because you can get +200% easily. Artemis is a huge damage boost with crit; and works extremely well with chaos upgrades for flourish. If you can apply weak on attack; and get aphrodite/artemis duo; your crits start dealing 450% instead of 300%.
But you never are told about the cooldown.
For example; demeter's 10 stacks of chill explode don't work with chiron well
hollow sorrel
Yes; it's poor game design
chrome geyser
Instead of creating a blast per volley once you go +4; it creates it once.
hollow sorrel
It the chiron bow needs to interact differently than other aspects, due to its rate of fire, than it should have a modified scaling table for those boons
chrome geyser
And for example; with zeus; yes it is a HUGE damage boost. But the chaos aspect does also almost 5 strikes per special if you take it.
And the base damage is the same; both the volley and shield throw are 15 damage.
hollow sorrel
Like, every chiron arrow can proc a zeus bolt, but each bolt does some balanced percentage of reduced damage
chrome geyser
I would be fine with that.
hollow sorrel
It's what most other games do, and hopefully will get implemented in this game at some point
silver seal
pallid python
my favourite thing about overtime pact of punishment thing
is that the final boss' 'ready up' animation gets sped up as well x0
prime knoll
@eternal quartz would you mind splitting your post into the starting hammer and god keepsake immediacy? I would like to respond but I have differing opinions between the two sentiments.
hollow sorrel
I did more rerolling, including rerolling in Styx. It seems like even though we can usually force a non-meta rerollable door to turn into a boon within 3 rerolls, there are a few weird exceptions. If a rare door (e.g. hammer, possibly trial of the gods?, possibly Hermes) is part of the rotation, then it sometimes makes the rotation break before it gets to an Olympian boon. Maybe it will eventually reroll into a boon 8 rerolls later (which isn't realistic in a normal game), or maybe the rotation completely breaks and will never reroll into a boon. I've also noticed that if a rotation breaks and Styx, and you complete a tunnel on a different door, then it resets the broken rotation. So I guess the summarized advice to maximizing boon count, is to always take a boon door if offered, take the rare doors if they are offered (so it doesn't break the rotation), and if for some reason 3 rerolls doesn't force a boon, then give up on the door because it might be a broken rotation.
hollow sorrel
I guess the best way to conserve your rerolls, is to wait until you get 2 non-meta doors showing gold/heart/pom, then reroll one of the doors, and it should turn into a boon within 2 rerolls, assuming it doesn't throw a rare door (e.g. hammer) into the rotation
mint vortex
Does anyone know if the Olympian's keepsake effects refresh when you move to a new biome if you keep them on, or are you better off switching out for something else?
rancid shore
they dont iirc?
mint vortex
That's what I thought.
hollow sorrel
the main keepsake ability works until you pick up that god's boon
mint vortex
I haven't tried in a long time, though.
hollow sorrel
the increased rarity part continues working
This means that if you are offered that god's boon, but you really want to go through a different door, it's ok, because the keepsake will still try to spawn that god's boon, because you didn't pick up that boon yet
hybrid galleon
lol that sounds fun
mint vortex
Yeah, but that doesn't help all the time because the keepsake doesn't make that Olympian part of the boon pool for the run. So you might never get another boon from that god.
hollow sorrel
the chaos-spawning item is not as nice. Once it spawns a chaos gate, you either take it or lose it
hybrid galleon
basically that god be like "Hm why is he not coming yet"
rancid shore
hermes actually comments on your keepsake if you change it and you meet him before the god
something like "i know you were expecting demeter with that cold breeze but that was just me being fast haha"
hybrid galleon
he goes "oh im faster haha"?
I feel like I always meet hermes guaranteed 80% of the time at asphodel
idk is this hard coded or what
also it seems that at best you can only get 2 hammers naturally throughout of hte whole run, speaking of hard coded events
unless you fated d20 or buy it from charon
rancid shore
?? oh
hybrid galleon
Imagine able to build the most bs skit lol
hollow sorrel
And if you keep ignoring the hammers, they increasingly become more likely to show up in rerolls
hybrid galleon
ah then i shall not be sad then
astral magnet
i wonder what'd happen if you forced the game to spawn a hammer in every room door, like they'd run out of upgrades eventually right?
hybrid galleon
since i always having to cry inside when i see legendary boon offer vs hammer
rancid shore
I just like the idea of skipping hammers and they keep showing up
like how many of those is daedalus going to drop??
hybrid galleon
I kinda want hephtatus to be the hammer upgrade
but hes a god boon
infact make construction workers as daedalus and his son icarus
hollow sorrel
I imagine if you somehow forced a boon to appear more times than it has choices, that either the code throws an exception and refuses to spawn the boon, or you glitch out the game, and not be able to choose anything, and the game is stuck
hybrid galleon
that would be better than some random ghost
hollow sorrel
or maybe the devs coded an 'error boon' to appear if everything else fails, so you can still progress with the game
I think someone had a screenshot of the error boon before? That might be what they are doing
hybrid galleon
easter egg boon if you collected all of them, you get one shot and they will one shot the enemies
astral magnet
error boon seems like it would be useful to have at least while testing at any rate
hybrid galleon
Glitched Rarity
rancid shore
maybe probably stupid idea: chaos active boons, you get attack/cast/special/dash/call but the god used is random per room/use
hybrid galleon
Beyond Reality Rarity
astral magnet
or it's just a permanently strong boon with a permanent debuff
astral magnet
chaos call that just deletes non-boss enemies in a large radius around would be neat
rancid shore
That's just companions
hybrid galleon
thats just thanatos
astral magnet
i don't have any companions yet ๐ญ
hybrid galleon
meg has a good one yuh
you jsut gonna wait
2500 damage
per use
WHEEZE
its ZA NUKE
earnest ravine
And can hit an enemy multiple times if they're in more than one circle.
hybrid galleon
HELL YEAH
earnest ravine
I still prefer thanatos because he's way easier to aim and it's funny to consistenly kill Theusus and Asterius at the same time
earnest ravine
But he's a little slower and can't do that wacky stuff that Meg does.
duas is... unfortunately not too strong right now but she tries
earnest ravine
Nah, all of them aside from Dusa are really worthwhile.
Skelly makes 32 heat bosses almost a joke if you position him right, and Sisyphus is good for a quick heal plus damage.
hybrid galleon
ok but spoiler it incase ppl mad but does hades say anything when you date thanatos
rancid shore
i feel like dusa should be like a full room petrify with probably no damage
earnest ravine
|| yeah and it caused me to kill him 4 times in a row in rage||
hybrid galleon
||similar to meg||
earnest ravine
There ya go.
earnest ravine
I'll move thiis over to spoielrs for your sake
rancid shore
why are you using strikeouts for spoilers
rancid shore
it's literally the same effort to actually spoiler tag your stuff
hybrid galleon
the | is all the way on the right of the keyboard
also forgive me lord im just really tired its 2 am here :)))
earnest ravine
There ya go, but yeah, I'll try and move the convo over there sooner for less effort next time if it comes up.
quiet arrow
how do i get thanatos' favour to trigger?
eternal quartz
I used to hate Sword as it was really hard for me to play with it, but I absolutely love cast build with Poseidon Aspect! It's great combo with Artemis' boons, even without Exit Wounds. And it's really fast!
I was landing crits around 1200-1500 I guess... And with 7 casts every boss goes down real quick, even with +30% Pact of Punishment option. Would be even quicker if I had Flurry Cast from Hermes.
"wystrzaล" means "cast" in case you're wondering.
naive tusk
Loving all the slavic
woven hill
Cursed Slash and Nourished Soul :0
Also congratulations Tiank!!
My money 
Quit to see if something would happen
It did
It's all gone
:(
My thing is still there just not the Shady stuff
naive tusk
Oh noes
wise ibex
http://prntscr.com/r9y6j7 finally gettin a streak! not a lot but its progress nonetheless
earnest ravine
Nice!!
kind cloud
in today's edition of hades' rng is f***ing bullnonsense, the game decided to give a artemis/athena duo boon over artemis' cast legendary....yeah, ok...i think i'm gonna log off before i smash my keyboard
woven hill
Well done!!
oof sorry to hear that cinematic
aw man piercing wave doesn't work on cursed slash
wish i could fwoom health from afar
chrome geyser
So something weird happened.
I had demeter, aphrodite and artemis.
And i was seeing athena boons; though did not pick any up
Then is styx; the boons I got were zeus, ares, athena, demeter and aphrodite.
I had no revenge boons; and in styx; i managed to get vengeful mood with all zeus, ares and athena revenge triggers.
I tried twice with aphrodite but failed.
Still a meme build that came together ONLY in styx; and I had boons from everyone but dionysus and poseidon.
But weird that in styx; the game decided no; your gods are not your gods anymore.
pallid python
I love that with the shield, no matter what difficulty, final battle is a mere formality
wonder if they will add another difficulty to the pact of punishment for adding techniques to enemies, giving the final boss a piercing attack that goes through both deflection and shield blocks
astral magnet
i figured there was gonna be another area after the current final boss eventually tbh
pallid python
I mean yeah, I didn't mean to imply that I thought it was the final area, my bad :D
scarlet urchin
nova spade
Anyone else feel like Ares's boons are... a bit different from what they should be?
Doom moreso than the blade rift, but blade rift is only really useful IMO with either the artemis duo, or if you get the legendary enhancement.
nova spade
Yeah, same. It's so feast or famine.
Essentially, anything. If you get the artemis duo boon and the legendary ares boon, you just win the run automatically
Really, for ares to be anything but a wet noodle you also need the artemis boons that affect casts.
green compass
Chiron bow really dosent benefit from it
Compared to ez stuff like main aphro demeter special
woven hill
WOO! Just the spear to go before I finish heat 1
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/135418430638522368/683766975998328833/unknown.png
nova spade
But thats the thing. You don't need your weapon at that point. You throw out your 12 heat-seeking blade rifts that increase in damage every tick and it just melts anything it comes into contact with. Your attack or special are not relevant at that point.
Nice!
woven hill
btw the prophecy mentioning the Guan Yu Aspect, do you need to bring the specific aspect to the surface or just the spear?
green compass
Aspect
woven hill
Oof
chrome geyser
Ares doom is good for anything that you don't use very often. On bow; (except chiron) it's a solid flourish choice.
green compass
For the specific prophecy
woven hill
grazie
green compass
The bring all weapons to surface is just spear
chrome geyser
It also goes really well with athena duo on a rapid attack weapon.
Doom; activate (with dash or some other deflect effect); repeat ad infinitum.
scarlet urchin
Question.
Is Asterius supposed to be able to go right though Athena's call with the spinny attack?
Cause.
Euhm.
What?
(I rather not lose my game here just to attempt to catch the bug right in the moment because I'm very very low health now.)
nova spade
My issue with it is that it doesn't stack automatically. It has a cap on the damage it can do otherwise because you can't really do much with it until you can reapply it again
scarlet urchin
Nope.
green compass
Oh wait that's not the dash
scarlet urchin
Stiiill going.
green compass
I'm dumb
chrome geyser
Than that's a bug. Maybe report it?
scarlet urchin
Got the full 4 bar call. Used it.
And am nearly dead now cause I did not expect to be hit for 90 health.
green compass
Ow
scarlet urchin
Yea.... Thing is I'd have to catch the bug in the moment for it to be useful...
I think...
chrome geyser
Did you get athena to play a line?
sometimes they are almost full
but it's like 99%
scarlet urchin
chrome geyser
so when you use it you expect 10 seconds; but it only lasts 1 second; yada yada
Uh oh
I would not leave it to chance
unkempt pagoda
report it anyways
scarlet urchin
I could unpause... try F10 quickly and hope it gives them some useful information.
unkempt pagoda
it sends your save file and room to the devs for them to sort through it
scarlet urchin
and then hope I don't die.
green compass
Least that means a dev can try to emulate it
green compass
Just say how it happens and they can test it
unkempt pagoda
and even if they can't, at least they know that it exists
ripe parrot
Hello friends
scarlet urchin
I'll try that then.
chrome geyser
hello.
green compass
Yo
unkempt pagoda
๐
ripe parrot
Y'all get any good runs today?
chrome geyser
Don't throw this run; it's a good build. I think you will be fine even if you lose a DD
green compass
Yesterday I have a fun one with chiron bow and microwave demeter cast
chrome geyser
I switched from 40% speed to 20% speed and my runs feel so much smoother
unkempt pagoda
recently i had a great run with charged special on chiron bow
chrome geyser
I can actually react to enemies!
green compass
Btw when achievements are added will we unlock ones we already did instantly
ripe parrot
Right? I was at 20% for a while and dropped down to 0 Heat because I apparently just neglected the Rail the whole game
green compass
Or will we need to start another save to get some
chrome geyser
It usually works instantly for all the early access games I played
unkempt pagoda
the little pause to charge the special didn't really matter much because i was doing hecka damage
chrome geyser
As long as the game already has telemetry stuff for the unlocks.
green compass
Already that's a relief
scarlet urchin
I send the bug report.
I hope I don't lose a DD. here but if I do I'll still manage.
chrome geyser
Charged special on chiron is amazing
ripe parrot
Has anybody else completely furnished their House yet?
chrome geyser
better than +4 for sure if you have a damage build.
scarlet urchin
I honestly got really lucky with the athena call.. well.. would be.
I didn't have any athena boons show up until the last second in Charons shop.
chrome geyser
@ripe parrot im only missing the fountain; farming the gems for it now.
ripe parrot
The one that goes in East Hall? Nice.
chrome geyser
It's a grind lol but it should look great, I hope
chrome geyser
I dunno. The one that costs 3000
green compass
Do the favor mirror upgrades cap at 50%
ripe parrot
Yep
ripe parrot
I didn't even bother with the Rare one tbh
green compass
50% epic sounds nutty
chrome geyser
They are both needed and good.
I think now that i toned down forced overtime; i'm gonna try making a sea storm rail run happen.
scarlet urchin
ahh well seems what is bugged is the call.... it says I can do greater call.. THen I do greater call..
Aand it doesn't give me greater call...
Though last time I pressed F it did drain more than one bar..... so... well that's weird.
green compass
What trinkets are worth leveling
scarlet urchin
Even though both times it prompted me for activating greater call....
green compass
They seem to take a while to get rank 3 and not sure if it's worth just trying to level them all
unkempt pagoda
cthonic purse
green compass
I have spear point, artemis, aphro, and cerb maxed
ripe parrot
Puts emphasis on not taking damage
green compass
Mostly since I like going aphro, artemis, spearpoint in that order
unkempt pagoda
plume and butterfly reward you for not taking them off, so they're easy to level up