#h1-builds-and-combat

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full flame
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while you hold the attack button, you charge bull rush and your shield blocks everything

novel python
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You also block when you're dashing

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as in

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Bull rushing

dense locust
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I once built up like 350% dash damage and then never found a single dash lol

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So it's like a long invulnerability fram

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frame

novel python
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kind of

dense locust
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(or multiple....)

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Hmmm so so you throw out a bunch of shields, and then bull rush to a better position and repeat

novel python
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You need to rush first to be able to throw multiple shields.

dense locust
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Sure

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But then i'd imagine it's all about position, throw, positon, throw

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Anything to signicantly speed up bull rush

full flame
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there is a hammer boon that speeds up the charge

dense locust
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Hmm

full flame
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you also don't need to fully charge it to throw your bonus shields

dense locust
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yeah true

lament coral
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not for the shield

dense locust
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just a little push

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ill try it. I won with it at like 5 heat, but it was a struggle

lament coral
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spear has a spin speed, and shield has bull rush speed

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but you don't need rush speed for Chaos anyway

dense locust
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I just meant charge up speed

full flame
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Sudden Rush, speeds up your charge time

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and is great on Chaos shield

dense locust
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is that a daedalus hammer boon?

novel python
full flame
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yes

novel python
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But dread might be better here

whole jungle
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just had my attack, special, cast and dash as heroic could of had my call heroic as well but didnt want demeter call over aartemis

lament coral
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Your Bull Rush charges much faster, but does not knock foes away.

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what am I missing?

full flame
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bonus hits with shield is what i would take

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especially using doom on special

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more targets hit each time

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clears rooms faster

lament coral
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don't take extra bounces with Chaos

novel python
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Why not though

lament coral
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it just causes your main shield to bounce longer

dense locust
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I always think about how strong I will be vs groups against how I will be againt hades

lament coral
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preventing you from rushing

full flame
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half the time i'm throwing shield without chaos

novel python
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I have World Breaker @lament coral

full flame
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it's worth in my opinion

novel python
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So my rush is... minimum

lament coral
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you still use your special, yes?

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after the rush

novel python
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Ofc lol

whole jungle
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extra bounces makes it alot worse with chaos imo

dense locust
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Clearing armor is nearly useless against hades

lament coral
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so imagine that your attack and special are now delayed

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you can't use em

full flame
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how is it worse?

lament coral
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cause your shield is still bouncing

novel python
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So then, breaching? To make styx a breeze?

dense locust
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yeah that's the problem I always have with those extra bounces

lament coral
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yes, Breach is ideal with World Breaker

dense locust
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Unless you really have a problem clearing rooms

lament coral
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that's 90x4=360 off your "attack"

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you'll vaporize elites

full flame
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x5

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+400%

lament coral
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this is what happens when you got a C in math

full flame
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😄

lament coral
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also, wow, Artemis new attack and special are terrible

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rare attack gives you a whooping +27% damage

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amazing!

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for comparison, common Demeter gives around 50%

full flame
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i've never really prioritized her on attack/special

lament coral
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I mean, I tried with Nemesis sword and Chiron bow

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attack on Nemesis and special on Chiron, and it was decent before the winter patch

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now though? It's trash

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only her cast is worthwhile

full flame
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with the crit you already have on Nemesis, always felt that higher raw damage like Aphro was better, plus getting weakness

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Artemis dash is pretty baller though

lament coral
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I figured critting on every hit would be better than more raw damage

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and it seemed so

full flame
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all depends on rest of build really

lament coral
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after the winter patch though, Priv Stat beats Artemis, easy

dense locust
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Jesus, just started chaos aspect for Aegis, and my first boon was epic Deadly Flourisj (73% special damage and 20% chance to crit) and a chaos boon Flayed Flourish, for another 114% special damage

lament coral
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provided the game isn't rigged not to offer you a single status attack/special

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it's not 20%, is it? 15% or something

dense locust
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20

lament coral
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🤔

full flame
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it's 20

lament coral
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I thought it was nerfed

dense locust
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Oops SG games

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maybe it was but the text wasnt

lament coral
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Fixed a Boon text issue with Deadly Strike (Artemis) and Deadly Flourish (Artemis) (their Critical chance was higher than the text stated)

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ah

dense locust
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Wait so the text says 20 for me

lament coral
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it's correct now

dense locust
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okay thats pretty strong

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So it used to say 15

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when it was hitting for 20

novel python
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It's so fun to use maxed athena's call and just hit theseus until he stops moving

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well apart from hermes

dense locust
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Okay so now I see the strength of chaos aspect for aegis

full flame
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i've had that happen a lot lately Kree

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either that or boons from gods i've never even picked up the entire run

manic dune
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How many boons do you have atm

dense locust
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So would you choose a heat required pom (first biome), daedalus hammer, or artemis/aphrodite duel boon, with an aegis special build

novel python
manic dune
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No

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What's there to fix

pastel jolt
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things going out-of-bounds

novel python
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Um, big snakestones getting pushed outside the screen and y ou not being able to hit them?

dense locust
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Does daedalus hammer or a dual boon take priority when its towards the beginning

full flame
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depends on entirely on your weapon and preferences really

dense locust
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Aegis special damage build

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with chaos aspect

manic dune
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It looks hittable with a ranged weapon

dense locust
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already have huge damage and crit

full flame
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i would get for dual boon typically

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hammers will always eventually show up

dense locust
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Im always afraid my second hammer wont show up

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but you're probably right

full flame
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i've never had a run where hammers didn't show up

dense locust
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i read it's not guaranteed but it's probably high probability

full flame
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correct

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like, the second one might not be there in Styx, but you'll reroll into it easily

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within 1 or 2 rolls

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typically after even seeing the second one multiple times and passing on it

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like i avoid hammers using Poseidon sword, and they just keep showing up and clog up the rerolls in styx

dense locust
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Good to know

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My rerolls feel nearly insignificant most of the time

manic dune
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if i get heart, pom or coin with a golden laurel and reroll i usually get heart, pom or coin

dense locust
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what about bonus heat related opportunities? Most of the time I take them, it gives me trash afterwards

manic dune
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or if it's something else it usually turns into heart, pom or coin

dense locust
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I only take a heat portal if everything else sucks

full flame
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oh the infernal gates?

pastel jolt
dense locust
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the gates that are only accessed if you are running high enough heat

full flame
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i mean, you see the potential reward before going in

manic dune
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Yeah i've seen it but not sure how it helps

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It's also obsolete

full flame
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but you have to not get damaged at all during the encounter

pastel jolt
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how's it obsolete

dense locust
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It gives you a double reward if you don't take damage, but the gates following it changef

manic dune
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Pretty sure you can get 3 Hermes buffs

pastel jolt
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i'd be curious to know, considering i'm the one who made it

dense locust
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which is the bad part

full flame
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it's basically the same as going into a chaos gate

dense locust
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I don't agree there

manic dune
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Also i think you can reroll hermes?

full flame
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if you see gold laurel rooms, and a chaos/infernal gate, if you go down the gate, very often will have blue laurel rooms exiting that

pastel jolt
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the third hermes boon is purchasable in charon's shop in styx, which i don't class as a room reward

woeful stirrup
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Nothing bad about that. You got a freaking double gold reward, you can't expect the game to give you another gold reward.

pastel jolt
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is my justification there :P

dense locust
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My only hesitation using the heat gates (i don't know what they are called) is that they change the gates I currently am being offered

manic dune
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they're good if you get a gate before silver rooms

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worst case scenario you get infernal + chaos gate right before gold laurels

dense locust
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Or if I feel like my damage is too low to have a chance

pastel jolt
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you can reroll hermes but i've never gone from hermes to a regular god or vice versa - maybe it's possible, idk, i don't really tend to reroll hermes when i see him

woeful stirrup
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You do know you can reroll heat gates too, right?

full flame
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infernal gates are gamble, you have to feel confident in your ability to clear without taking damage or it's not worth

manic dune
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it's worth if it's before silver laurels

dense locust
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My scenario is I'm being offered two different god's boons but there is a heat gate available to get a double pom reward. I take the heat gate and win. Then i'm offered a key or darkness

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Is that worth it?

full flame
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depends on what you have

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if you have your main damage ability already, it could be considered worth

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if you have a lot of boons and you might not upgrade a valuable one, then probably not worth

manic dune
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It's a lose lose situation whatever you do

novel python
dense locust
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True. I guess I have a lot to learn about when to take which god's boon, or when to just get health and upgrades

full flame
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did you get Merciful End @novel python ?

novel python
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Sadly not

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Nor exposed on deflect

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I've only gotten dash in styx lmao

full flame
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yeah, sure seems to be a lot rarer to get now

novel python
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No DD lost

dense locust
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What I'm really trying to say is why can't I have my own bouldy IRL

manic dune
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that's a lot of boons no wonder the shop was empty

novel python
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@dense locust wait for Hades merch

dense locust
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No, i can't afford it

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😛

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life size bouldy plushy

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encourages you if you give it a soda

novel python
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How many times do I have to talk to dusa until she unlocks her keepsake fml

dense locust
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Usually the only time i visit sisyphus is for bouldy

full flame
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that's not a lot of boons

novel python
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Those 50 mins though

full flame
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haha

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yeah i was bad

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not sure why that one was so long

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was probably messing around with it unpaused

novel python
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I think I have all my wins saved somewhere

kind cloud
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guan yu aspect might actually be pretty freaking cash...

novel python
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Also, my fastest atm is 18, Poseidon Sword

kind cloud
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i was very leery of it but with athena's deflect on attack, it's pretty spectacular

dense locust
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It certainly helps once it's level 5

ionic field
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I had a Guan Yu run where I went with the new Special

novel python
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I've won without Guan Yu maxed

dense locust
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Level 1 is just stressful

novel python
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Because I had no blood

ionic field
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I was throwing ~700 damage spears

novel python
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Anything good I can do with the goddamn keys?

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They need to rework keys too

dense locust
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Yeah my first win with it was level 1, but I just removed all heat

novel python
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people are hoarding them and you can only get nectar from them

full flame
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trade them for titan blood

kind cloud
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i'm a noob at the spear (hate it) but i can see myself getting into the 30s heat with guan yu

novel python
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How

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@full flame

full flame
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broker will sometimes have an offer of 15 keys for 1 blood

novel python
kind cloud
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the broker keeps trolling me

novel python
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1 blood for 150 gems

dense locust
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its 5 for a nectar, and then 10 nectars for an ambrosia, which translates to a blood

kind cloud
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he has the best deals when i don't have enough for the exchange at the bottom

dense locust
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oh sorry

full flame
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just have to check broker after every run

dense locust
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20

kind cloud
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i do

full flame
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it comes up enough that it's worth saving the keys

dense locust
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so its 100 keys for an ambrosia?

kind cloud
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i think he's telling me "git gud young blood git gud or get rekt"

novel python
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135 keys and still getting more lmao

north hedge
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Can companions be used against Hades?

woeful stirrup
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Not all of them.

novel python
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^

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YOu can't use Battie or Shady

dense locust
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would be cool to have something else to spend them on though

novel python
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or than*

north hedge
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I tried with Thanatos' but it said no. So it's character specific?

novel python
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not shady

woeful stirrup
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His employees don't really want to punch their boss.

novel python
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^

north hedge
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Damn

lament coral
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you can use Shady

novel python
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I've never used than b ecause it's delayed

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Yeah I corrected myself

lament coral
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can't use Battie or Mort

kind cloud
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meg is not delayed

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that's her advantage

novel python
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I said Than

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Not Meg

lament coral
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not sure about Dusa's companion

novel python
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Dusa still doesn't want ambro

kind cloud
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i still haven't gotten dusa's companion, thanks game

novel python
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And I talk to her every run

lament coral
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yeah, same here

full flame
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can't use Dusa against Hades either

kind cloud
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yep, me too

woeful stirrup
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Have not unlocked it but will keep it even if it's garbage because Dusa best girl.

kind cloud
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dusa's love for zag is adorable

novel python
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Dusa has just started to call Zag on his name instead of Prince

lament coral
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doesn't seem like there's much of a point in using anyone other than Shady and Skelly, tbh

novel python
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Things are going north realllly fast

kind cloud
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but i wonder if she's some kind of super duper triple spy

lament coral
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maybe for speedrunners Batty is great for skipping Hydra

woeful stirrup
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And yeah, probably not usable against Hades either. I do wonder if it can be used against Meg though.

kind cloud
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fan fic INCOMING

novel python
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@lament coral tried the skip after the rework

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Doesn't work anymore

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maybe its a new one idk

dense locust
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Yeah I agree, straight damage isnt useful

livid comet
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ugh poison sucks so bad

kind cloud
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still the worst game mechanic i've encountered in any game

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i HATEE it

dense locust
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Get healed and gold, and extra damage; distract everything for a little bit, or deal like 5 attacks of damage

ionic field
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satyr retching sounds

lament coral
novel python
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that's what I'm watching rn

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didnt check it yet, though I wanted to

lament coral
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to be fair, it wasn't Meg that did most of the work

novel python
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imma go use the toilet while I do though

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o/

full flame
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lmao

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it's both phases of heads all at once

livid comet
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wait so who should I prioritise nectar for? I'm pretty sure I've got all the keepsakes

ionic field
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Bouldy

dense locust
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Thats cool and all, but the heal is sooooo good

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I guess unless you have reduced healing heat

full flame
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did bouldy heals get nerfed though? not sure if it was just me or different heat settings, but it seemed less

north hedge
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I feel like Ares Aid got nerfed super hard

dense locust
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Feels like they did

full flame
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  • Ares' Aid: reduced damage; increased move speed
north hedge
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Also do his Blade Rift size up and stuff affect the Aid where it states you turn into one? I never seemed to notice if they did

lament coral
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all foods were nerfed

tall whale
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oops

north hedge
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It's a giant cut to dmg

full flame
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the blade rift size yes

lament coral
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Bouldy drops 10 HP sandwiches now

tall whale
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hm... looks like world smasher has a few frames of vulnerability still

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which is still enough time to take huge damage from like snakestones :(

full flame
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i'm not sure about the sucking in enemies or the duration for a non-fully charged call

north hedge
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used to be able to greater aid Theseus from 50 to 0 while he was summoning

lament coral
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so about 50 HP per bouldy use

north hedge
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felt good

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rip

full flame
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that's what I thought, they used to be more right Zepp?

lament coral
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yeah, 20+ each

full flame
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yeah

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it was definitely noticeable

lament coral
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it's fair, Bouldy's been busted for a while

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but they gotta make other companions better, at least Meg and Than's

dense locust
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Yeah that's exactly what i was just typing out

lament coral
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they don't work against blue shields, nor are they usable against Hades

dense locust
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They are both also just boring

lament coral
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they have to be better than every other companion

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yep

dense locust
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Do big damage, or do less damage a few times

lament coral
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I'd prefer that

full flame
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Meg's should definitely be multi-hit smaller damage

lament coral
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maybe pierce enemy shields

dense locust
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I'd like megs to summon her sisters and wreak havoc

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something fun

lament coral
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nah, that wouldn't make sense

dense locust
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yeah but i dont like straight damage

lament coral
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Meg's with you, not the sisters

dense locust
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make summon a meg familiar or something idk

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maybe

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but she constantly berrates you

full flame
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Than's should actually be like his single target instant kill during his encounter, and just chain from one enemy to the next like 10 times or something like that

lament coral
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I also wish everyone on the screen froze when you use the companion

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hate how enemies can just walk away before companion even hits

full flame
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yeah, that's the problem with delayed aoe's

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which is why bouldy is great, bc even if you miss, you get something

lament coral
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even Bouldy suffers from it

dense locust
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Wow i am all about chaos aspect for Aegis now

full flame
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once you go chaos, you never go zagreus

lament coral
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welcome to the club

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Chaos bois

dense locust
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I also got like 350% special damage with 20% chance crit

lament coral
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wtf

dense locust
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and I am like half way to hydra

lament coral
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epic with how many levels?

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or are those from Chaos boons?

full flame
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he's got chaos boons

lament coral
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ah

novel python
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Ive just watched the skip, that might be a glitch or a bug

lament coral
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I think the highest I ever had was about 150%

novel python
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Because theres no way that he was dealing that much dmg

lament coral
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he critted after applying Priv Stat

dense locust
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My bad I def read that wrong,

novel python
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It was A LOT, don't get me wrong, but still

full flame
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well it's definitely a glitch, bc the invulnerability is supposed to kick in no matter how much burst damage you do

novel python
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It's a glitch in the matrix 👀

dense locust
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187% with 20% crit

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but hunters mark wipes rooms

tall whale
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a;lsdkfjal;s

dense locust
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I assume world smasher doesn't charge chaos aspect

full flame
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like fighting hades second phase, if you get him to 51% and then hit him with an Aphro call 2500 damage, you just wasted it, bc he gets invul at 50%

dense locust
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since it replaces it

novel python
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We need a homing rail which deals less damagr

tall whale
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i take back what i said about world smasher

novel python
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But it's homing

tall whale
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it's bad against continuous fire enemies

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but super good against everything else

full flame
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@dense locust it does

tall whale
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i just beat hades without using a single defiance

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took like maybe 2 hits total the whole fight

full flame
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you can throw chaos shields after world smasher

tall whale
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the throw leaves you vulnerable for a little bit

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more mindless to just hold down m1

dense locust
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is it quicker than sudden rush?

tall whale
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also, ares call + viscious cycle is super powerful

dense locust
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I acutally like those invul frames though

tall whale
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the max god gauge call took down hades phase 2 from like 1/3 hp

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at the end it was ticking for like 80 dmg

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oops i forgot i had evergreen acorn equipped that might explain why i didn't take that much dmg

novel python
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You think? 👀

drifting briar
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Anyone know how to complete both "A Place of Revelry" and "The Gift of Song"?
For the prior - unlocked all lounge renovations minus the 1500 gem one and maxed Dusa for the latter I've maxed out ineracxtion w/ Eurydice and Orpheus for a long time now. :[

tall whale
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it was only a lvl 1 acorn

manic dune
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i think for a place of revelry you just need to do runs and push the dialogue with dusa

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i still haven't finished it as well

dense locust
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Which is faster, bull rush with sudden rush, or world smasher

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I've never used world smasher

tall whale
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world smasher is instant, there's no charge

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and no option to just stay there and block

livid comet
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wait did broken spear point Cooldown get patched in very recently!?

tall whale
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holding m1 chains world smasher > basic attack

dense locust
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Im all in on special

manic dune
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world smasher lasts long enough to block with it

dense locust
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with chaos aspect

tall whale
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if you get deflect on attack, you pretty much become invulnerable from the front

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like you have maybe a 1 or 2-frame vulnerability window

dense locust
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so i just want to charge up those shields

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so probably world smasher then

tall whale
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i beat hades phase 1 and most of phase 2 just holding down m1 on him

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with world smasher + divine strike

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also, does deflecting melee attacks reflect them damage?

dense locust
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I don't think so

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Only speaking from experience

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If it does, they need to add in some sort of indicator

tall whale
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oh yea, what do infernal gates do?

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and is there any use for fish other than turning them in?

lament coral
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you need to kill all enemies without getting hit

whole jungle
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no other use

lament coral
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get hit even once, and you lose the reward

whole jungle
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for infernal gates you need 5, 10 and 15 heat for Tartarus Asphodel and Elysium

tranquil vigil
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how can i find thanathos? i escaped 1 time and he still not appear.

whole jungle
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random

lament coral
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it takes a while for him to appear

olive sand
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It's random I think. He will appear eventually.

lament coral
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keep playing and he'll show up eventually

olive sand
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Hello. I just noticed that my spear have +20% Darkness on it when I select it before a run and I have no idea why?

lament coral
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because you haven't used it for a while

full flame
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it's a random buff that changes weapons after every run

lament coral
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the bonus is randomly assigned to a weapon you haven't used

full flame
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it's a way to help with darkness grind and promotes using different weapons

olive sand
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Ho! Cool way to push the player to variety.

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Thanks.

tranquil vigil
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and when can i have summon since i have 1 ambrosa already

tall whale
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does hades have a keepsake?

tranquil vigil
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still can't trade to any

whole jungle
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hades does not

dense locust
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Hmm. Dread flight or Charged throw with level 4 chaos aspect Aegis and fully committed special build

full flame
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have to keep working on relationships with nectar before being able to gift ambrosia

tall whale
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dread flight imo

dense locust
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Does charged throw give every shield 300% damage

tall whale
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probably, but you need to stand still while charging

lament coral
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I think it's only the main shield

tall whale
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and that can be a death sentence in a lot of situations

tranquil vigil
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so i have to get rid of all of my nectar so i can trade with ambrosa right?

full flame
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the charge is slow and only affects one shield

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won't affect all

whole jungle
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6 nectar before you can and it might still take a few funs before they even let you @tranquil vigil

lament coral
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same way extra bounces hammer only affects the main shield

dense locust
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Okay ill go dread flight if it only affects one shield

tranquil vigil
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oh i see so which summon do you think the best

full flame
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dread flight also only affects your main shield

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what was 3rd option?

dense locust
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Sudden Rush

full flame
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oh i would have done sudden rush

dense locust
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I havent chosen

full flame
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that lets you charge faster so you can release chaos shields faster

dense locust
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does it affect the fact that i chose the thing that replaces bull rush

full flame
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oh, the world smasher?

dense locust
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yes

full flame
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i would assume it makes that faster, but i haven't actually had both to see

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test for us!

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😄

dense locust
#

haha ugh

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okay

#

it doesnt say how much faster

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1% faster POG

full flame
#

it's significantly faster for normal bull rush

dense locust
#

It just very specifically names Bull Rush

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Which according to the game, I no longer have

full flame
#

but others will still affect world smasher

dense locust
#

Alright

full flame
#

like the one that says your bull rush has a power shot

dense locust
#

ill go for it

#

My build is already over powered enough that it probably wont matter

#

Its faster

#

like .15 seconds of charge

#

vs the .3ish it felt like before

#

Wow thats actually really strong because the world smasher is nearly my attack

full flame
#

nice, good to know

dense locust
#

yeah asterius melted

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Does crit chance stack additively

whole jungle
#

I believe so

#

Otherwise nemesis aspect with Artemis boons would be crazy

novel python
#

It IS crazy.

dense locust
#

Okay now I do have 300%+ special damage, I love runs like these

tall whale
#

one run i got a rare special boon and also a epic chaos special boon

#

it was wild

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while playing around in the courtyard i figured out you can dash during the windup of sword nova

dense locust
#

Sudden rush and world smasher is a lot of invul

tall whale
#

world smasher alone is basically perma invul

#

sudden rush makes you do even more damage while invul

dense locust
#

I'm dedicated special damage but the melee damage is very good

novel python
#

is it even worth taking common exit wounds with poseidon

pastel jolt
#

i mean, with poseidon? yes

#

i assume you mean poseidon aspect

novel python
#

yep

whole jungle
#

Oh then definitely

dense locust
#

If a boon is level 1, the rarity difference isn't that big from boon to boon is it?

full flame
#

300% special damage, pfft

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try 495% dash attack damage

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oh, with triple strike dash 😄

lament coral
#

it varies by a sizable amount

#

for example, I believe a common Artemis attack is about +20% damage

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meanwhile, common Demeter attack is about 40%

#

for some reason, Aphrodite has the highest % scaling

dense locust
#

There is also a high crit chance, but to honest, sudden rush and world smasher is so strong that I just have to hold attack on hades

#

There is like a .15 - .20 second frame where you aren't invincible

#

I once built up my dash attack damage in that range assuming i'd eventually get a damaging dash and never did...

#

Worse than stepping on a farming tool

full flame
#

you don't need a damaging dash

dense locust
#

it still does damage?

full flame
#

dash attack damage from a chaos boon is you dash + attack damage

#

it does not affect the extra aoe dash damage from like poseidon or something

dense locust
#

hmm, it was rather early in my hades play throughs so I probably assumed it only affected the actual damage from dashing

full flame
#

it specifically says dash-strike now, which i think is new

#

to clarify

dense locust
#

Yeah that is what it was

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I assumed I needed a base damage dash

full flame
#

like that all affects the spear dash attack

dense locust
#

The clarification is nice

full flame
#

and i had the serrated edge boon for triple strike too

dense locust
#

gross

full flame
#

it was delicious

#

was lucky too, bc i didn't need anything else and the overall god boon progression was awful on that run

#

if you look closely, i have boons from every single god

dense locust
#

Getting the 40-50% evasion after a call for 15 seconds is amazing if you can stay within that window

full flame
#

oh i love that one

#

especially on a hermes keepsake run, so much dodge

#

throw in hermes dodge boon

#

if your call doesn't have invulnerability, it's one of the best hermes boons

lament coral
#

it's insane how quickly the call charges with the rail

dense locust
#

I have been doing the lambent plume for my first keepsake almost every run to build up that evasion

lament coral
#

I've never been able to get 4 calls off in the fight with Hades with any weapon other than the rail, and that's without any gauge boosting boons

full flame
#

it's only worth it if you can hit that 25-30% dodge mark

#

4 full bar calls?

lament coral
#

4/5

dense locust
#

What's a good starting keepsake?

lament coral
#

bars, different calls have different amounts

dense locust
#

Ill usually get 15 - 20% but everything else feels waste

#

wasted

lament coral
#

I prefer to start with a god keepsake

dense locust
#

except gold

full flame
#

best starting keepsake is the god you want to prioritize for your build typically, but that has not been as effective after the update

dense locust
#

true, i just haven't tried planning out keepsakes too uch yet

lament coral
#

for example, I love playing Zeus attack rail, so I start every rail run with Zeus' ring

full flame
#

gold is a decent start as well, if you just want to roll with some initial rng

dense locust
#

I'm just not sure when to switch to a new god

full flame
#

after one region you switch

dense locust
#

Or the best combos for any given weapons

lament coral
#

you usually do that if you want to ensure Privileged Status

dense locust
#

true, and getting a reliable weak is insane

full flame
#

bc the biggest value of a god keepsake is the guarantee of getting a boon from that god

lament coral
#

for example, a common strategy for Chaos shield runs involves starting with Dionysus' keepsake to get his special, then switching to Aphrodite's before Asphodel to get her attack

dense locust
#

The keepsake only affects the very first room right?

full flame
#

no

#

the keepsake has a counter on it "1", that guarantees you a boon from that god

dense locust
#

I mean for the guaranteed part

lament coral
#

the keepsake ensures that the first god gift offered will be from the keepsake's god

full flame
#

first room can possibly be a hammer

lament coral
#

because a hammer is not a god gift

full flame
#

so your guarantee would be whatever next room later in the run that has a god boon

dense locust
#

Does the keepsake affect the guarantee every biome?

lament coral
#

yes

#

well, rarity

full flame
#

if you buy a boon of that god from the shop, that uses up the charge too

lament coral
#

but you're only guaranteed to get that keepsake's god the first time you see em

#

after that, it's back to pure RNG

#

so best not to skip em

full flame
#

so there actually is a little strategy

dense locust
#

But if you switch after a boss, there is a guaranteed boon of the keepsakes type?

#

for that god

lament coral
#

of the keepsake's god, yes

dense locust
#

But not if you continue on with that keepsake

novel python
lament coral
#

yes, because you've already passed that god's room

dense locust
#

Got it

novel python
#

Dual shot*

lament coral
#

I'd take dual here myself

novel python
#

Lmao I'm 100% sure it was called burst shot

full flame
#

what weapon?

novel python
#

Poseidon lmao

lament coral
#

Poseidon sword

novel python
#

6 casts, epic flurry cast with exit wounds

#

This'll hurt papa

full flame
#

oh, with cast build, that is a tough call, probably dual shot

#

increases chance of getting legendary too

lament coral
#

so many casts, you can pop em easily with Poseidon

#

better to take raw damage

novel python
#

@full flame I already have it

full flame
#

ohh didn't see that

#

oh

novel python
#

hoping for recall from hermes

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or more dashes

full flame
#

i would have taken the duo then

dense locust
#

Gonna try zeus keepsake with rail

full flame
#

my rationale - duos are rarer, and that extra crit chance is significant dps

dense locust
#

What aspect do you go with

full flame
#

dual shot can show up again later, potentially at epic rarity

dense locust
#

I think ive used exclusively Eris with rail

full flame
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if you do zeus rail, yeah probably Eris

novel python
#

I got the duo again

full flame
#

wow

novel python
#

Either that or spent spirit

#

I got that from athena's room lmao

#

so arte duo or aphro duo?

#

well, arte gets me more damage

#

so yolo

full flame
#

i once had 3 duos offered at once

novel python
#

Got both duos on me

#

Papa will cry.

full flame
#

nice

novel python
#

It's fun to stay in athena's call in 2nd phase and shoot him point blank :p

dense locust
#

You take a chaos gate or a daedalus hammer early on

novel python
#

Depends on your weapon honestly, and also if you're good enough at the game. Some of the chaos' curses are pretty rough.

dense locust
#

Yeah sometimes the chaos boon just offers nothing I can use as well

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But that hammer will probably appear later

novel python
#

Darkness is good for meta progression also, coins are good for that run, cast stones work as well. ( talking about chaos )

dense locust
#

Wow never seen concentrated fire and hazard bomb

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Hazard bomb has a freaking red asterisk

#

Anyone know what Bould's ambiguity bonus does

rare salmon
#

I think it does nothing.

versed ibex
#

Does anybody know if "giving up" keeps the prophecy progression?

novel python
#

It resets your run. You only keep the progression if you die

versed ibex
#

bleh

novel python
#

So if you start again you'll get roughly the same boons and everything

#

If you do everything the same

versed ibex
#

But like... if I got, say, the last god boon I needed, I get the message of "prophecy foretold" or whatever. Giving up means I have to acquire the boon again?

novel python
#

As I said, it "resets" your run. If you give up, you need to get it again.

versed ibex
#

This puts me in a weird spot where I'm running with God mode, so if I intentionally die to speed farming up (not like I need to beat the final boss again) it ups my resistance and I feel like I'm in a good spot right now and don't want to do that. But I don't think I'd do well without god mode at all

wooden spade
#

I think prophecies on the fated list should fulfill as soon as you get the boon

#

If that’s what specifically you’re asking about

novel python
#

Nah, he's asking if he gets to keep the fulfilled prophecy if he ends a run by giving up

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Which I have tested and the answer is no.

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I had Ares Legendary, didn't get the duo so I couldn't play properly. Gave up. Prophecy wasn't done anymore.

versed ibex
#

*she

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But good to know. I do wish there were a way to end a run without taking an intentional death

novel python
#

Oops, mb there 😄

alpine ivy
#

if i pick replenish death defiance from athena but i havent used any yet, do i get an extra or no?

novel python
#

Nope. Just as the description states, it replenishes one, it doesn't give you extras

#

The only way you can acquire extras is through chaos' legendary boon.

errant narwhal
#

@alpine ivy, please don't swear!

alpine ivy
#

aight

novel python
#

Is Arte's attack on hestia worth the damage loss for the 15% crit chance?
If not, I'd rather switch to aphro or smth

dense locust
#

Oh man, getting the rail rocket launcher is a good time

#

When you get triple shot

full flame
#

it's decent Kree, but i always prioritize Arte dash on Hestia with a higher percentage attack

#

and then work on getting extra crit chance, or the athena duo or something

novel python
#

Forcing priv stat through special and dash aint doing that great

#

Since with hestia id rather stay at max range

#

instead of dashing around trying to proc status

full flame
#

Arte dash is just for increasing damage

#

it's amazing for burst attack builds

novel python
#

Nah I'm talking about my current run

full flame
#

ohh

novel python
#

Arte attack, aphro special, dio dash

full flame
#

yeah, that's not ideal lol

novel python
#

I just like to see the crits from arte's attack 😦

full flame
#

i would sell dio dash honestly and try to get arte

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and then go for a debuff on cast for bosses

dense locust
#

Getting an arrow every attack with rail is pretty silly

novel python
#

@full flame I'm offered either dio or dem elite rooms, I was thinking about praying for an attack exchange from Dem

full flame
#

haha ouch, neither offer a debuff cast

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would personally probably reroll

novel python
#

Rolled dio into athena

full flame
#

there ya go

#

athena cast is great with that, with some protection and potential to add expose

#

and then if you get that athena duo, oh boy

dense locust
#

I can't wait until that archway of 3 skulls gets destroyed

azure wraith
#

which boon/chaos effect offers faster returning casts?

dense locust
#

Does the oven cosmetic increase gems from fish?

#

Scuffers always gave 40 but after the oven it gave 80

azure wraith
#

what's the oven

hollow root
#

if you haven't died, does the kiss of styx give you one more life or no

dense locust
#

it replenishes

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not adds

hollow root
#

oh oki

dense locust
#

the oven is a cosmetic item you can buy

azure wraith
#

ahh

alpine ivy
#

how much is sword base damage?

#

furry slash is 25 base dmg per hit, is this more or less than normal?

full flame
#

did you have two scuffers maybe?

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it doesn't have a separate message for each fish, only each fish type but tallies up all the gems together

#

sword has a three hit combo normally, pretty sure it's 20-25-30

alpine ivy
#

ok

wooden panther
#

Hmm, I think I encountered a bug but wasn't able to F10 it due to the hectic circumstances of it being in the Final Boss, but if anyone happens to passing by that way I've an idea to test;

It seems that if you kill an Exploding skull at the same time it detonates then the blast-wave is invisible but still does damage. I'd try to recreate it but I haven't time right now

full flame
#

it's an increase in dps because of the faster attack speed at the average hit

#

but you lose the knockback of the third hit

alpine ivy
#

oh ok

full flame
#

i would not be surprised by that @wooden panther

#

there's a similar bug that if you use a call at the moment of having death defiance trigger, the animation/graphics for the call will be invisible

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like Ares call

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you'll still be doing AoE damage around you, but it looks like you're just standing there

wooden panther
#

Interesting, so it's definately repeatable at least

limber pumice
#

which gods do you think are the strongest?

#

i personally love artemis

full flame
#

it's all situational

#

depending on weapon/aspect

limber pumice
#

due to her versatility into different builds, her dash attack being straight up broken and the ability to stack her boons on each other

#

im talking for the bow

full flame
#

which aspect?

limber pumice
#

zagreus

full flame
#

artemis is pretty good, but could make a case for aphro on attack, those two combined are probably best

azure wraith
#

which stygian aspect are people using

full flame
#

it's split between poseidon or nemesis

#

vastly different playstyles

#

Poseidon for cast builds, Nemesis for straight sword damage

novel python
full flame
#

that's been happening a lot more lately

#

did you see the one i posted earlier?

gaunt ridge
#

Damn, 18.4k darkness points? :O

full flame
#

the shop had a single zeus as well

gaunt ridge
#

I assumed that hard mode limits the points from 3k to 2.5k, but it seems that it's actually unlimited?

full flame
#

so not a single god offered in styx was anything i had before

#

are you talking about Hell Mode?

gaunt ridge
#

Yeah

full flame
#

pretty sure your mirror is limited to 2.5k, i haven't used Hell Mode though

#

i don't hate myself that much

gaunt ridge
#

Yeah, I know that my mirror is limited to 2.5k. I just assumed that the regular difficulty would have a cap of around a similar number, like 3k for example

full flame
#

oh, no

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there's no limit really

#

i mean there's a maximum you can eventually spend bc there's nothing left to buy

gaunt ridge
#

I wish that aspect of Hell Mode was changed. It makes your darkness really useless from really early on

full flame
#

but like the 10th reroll costs like 100k or something

#

they're reworking darkness supposedly, so that might affect things there too

gaunt ridge
#

It also makes keys not nearly as valuable since there's no real point in unlocking the later mirror buffs

full flame
#

i have 53k darkness on my mirror lol

gaunt ridge
#

Damn

#

I started the game in Hell Mode because why not? :P But if a huge part of your permanent progress is locked then it's a little demotivating

full flame
#

yeah you have to be really committed to the hardship

gaunt ridge
#

So far it's not been bad though. I hit the 2.5k cap only relatively recently just before finishing the game after the 15th run

full flame
#

i think the idea was that people would have a dedicated save file for Hell Mode where they could prove they never enjoyed any of those high cost benefits

#

i just wasn't interested in all that

gaunt ridge
#

There should be a special Hell Mode with the Infernal Contract always maxed out

#

Imagine

full flame
#

the Pact of Punishment?

gaunt ridge
#

Oh yeah that one

full flame
#

ugh, maxing that out is impossible

#

i don't think it's been done yet by anyone

gaunt ridge
#

:O

#

I should get to work then ;)

full flame
#

haha

#

good luck

solid tide
#

Good morning everyone. New player (~30 hours) here

gaunt ridge
#

I would imagine the hardest thing by far is the tight deadline

full flame
#

tight deadline is not that bad, but it becomes awful when you start stacking it with some of the other stuff

#

like all of the things that make it take longer; more enemies, more health, blue shields, those just drag it out too long that it's tough to stay under time limit

#

i feel like the mirror limit one, which is basically what you're dealing with in Hell Mode is the worst

#

and good morning @solid tide

elfin wagon
#

In a Q&A, they said the base difficulty is balanced around first rank of Budget Cuts (at that time, it was 2750). So I guess that's why Hell Mode needs a mandatory cap there

alpine ivy
#

normal attack damage + doesnt effect dash attack right?

solid tide
#

Does anyone else have an issue where attacks that are blocked using Aegis (Longspear thrust, for example) still hit you? Particularly after the last major update. I get the "blocked" word and accompanying sound, but I still take damage.

#

Doesn't happen reliably, unfortunately. I suppose I should try turning on god mode to see if I can test it further

full flame
#

yes, a boon that increases your attack damage will increase your dash attack as well, in most cases

teal laurel
#

Unless you're sword

#

wait boon

#

yes it does

alpine ivy
#

i have spear

#

does lucky tooth or death defiance activate first?

lament coral
#

your own DDs will proc first

alpine ivy
#

ok

lament coral
#

I heard that if your tooth procs and you don't replace it, you can refill its slot, too

alpine ivy
#

is that a bug?

lament coral
#

no idea, maybe not even be true, never tried that myself

#

but it does leave an empty slot on your DD bar

burnt rune
#

You can refill it, yes

#

Did it yesterday on Elysium

lament coral
#

and even if you could refill it, it'd either be a normal DD, if bought from the well, or one of Athena's

#

oh, wow

alpine ivy
#

oh ok

burnt rune
#

It goes away if you switch the keepsake, obviously

lament coral
#

did you use the well or Athena?

burnt rune
#

Neither, used Patrocleus (sp?)

lament coral
#

ah, it's the same as well's

#

just all slots

#

good to know

#

I assume you never got it to proc?

burnt rune
#

I probably did actually lol

lament coral
#

ouch

burnt rune
#

But can't remember, did a lot of runs yesterday

mint jackal
#

My last 2 runs I've barely found any boons compared to my other runs. Is it bad luck or has the new update messed with boon room chances?

lament coral
#

no idea. I feel like I've been finding boon rooms ok but the amount of attack/special/casts being offered went down

#

I had multiple runs where I would only be offered one of these once or twice, and sometimes none at all

#

did an entire Chiron bow run without seeing a single attack with over a dozen boons picked up

burnt rune
#

Small random detail I learned too is that you can recall Zeus Shield while charging bull rush/world smasher

lament coral
#

well, yeah

mint jackal
#

That sucks. I'll usually get an attack/special/cast boon if I'm able to find any boons at all.

lament coral
#

Zeus shield doesn't disable attack like other aspects

mint jackal
#

Darkness/Coin/Gem rooms seem to be my only friends atm

lament coral
#

says so on the can

burnt rune
#

Well yeah

#

But I cannot load casts while charging attack with Hera ):

manic dune
#

recall has no animation it's instant

#

the shield is so broken, i'm facerolling with the chaos shield now

#

and i'm asking myself if i'm even playing a game

lament coral
#

try Zagreus sword

manic dune
#

i've tried it

lament coral
#

it'll bring you back to earth real quick

manic dune
#

try zagreus sword with cursed slash

lament coral
#

and by earth I mean the blood pool back home

#

I tried CS on Nemesis, went from 300 HP to 90 something

#

and died to Hades

manic dune
#

i died to a rat bite i think

lament coral
#

I am yet to die with Guan Yu

manic dune
#

guan yu is like the shield, only has actual gameplay involved sometimes

lament coral
#

only in the beginning, basically, or if you don't get the speed hammer

manic dune
#

you don't need the speed hammer

#

it's op whatever you do

#

you can play it ranged and spam throws

lament coral
#

really? I feel that you wouldn't be able to hit much with it without spin speed and maxed Overtime

manic dune
#

i mean you can use the spin to top off ocassionally

lament coral
#

also, pro tip, Lasting Consequences do not affect GY's healing

manic dune
#

but besides that it's still pretty strong and -50% hp isn't that bad

lament coral
#

it's free heat

#

just tried it

manic dune
#

yeah i figured that one out

lament coral
#

I wonder if that means CS works, too

manic dune
#

cursed slash?

lament coral
#

ye

manic dune
#

who cares honestly

lament coral
#

yeah, it's not like you'd start a sword run with no healing on

#

and pray for the hammer

manic dune
#

i mean you'd still pray you don't roll cs on a hammer

#

it's a dud

rancid shore
#

is cs still 1hp?

lament coral
#

yep

rancid shore
#

sad

lament coral
#

its only purpose seems to be to bait people into losing their HP and dying horribly

manic dune
#

i think it was 5% originally?

#

not sure why they nerfed it to being actually a curse

lament coral
#

it was damage dealt, which was definitely insane

#

you crit and heal to full

manic dune
#

if it had the guano heal it would still be kinda bad

#

since it's 70% and not 50% and also rng

lament coral
#

it's just plain bad

manic dune
#

and also the spin attack is ranged

#

while for sword autoattacks you need to be actually melee

lament coral
#

and spin goes through obstacles

#

and enemies

#

it's actually kinda funny if you have Athena attack, because the spin's center would move past enemies' centers, causing its attacks to backstab for increased damage thanks to Exposed

manic dune
#

yeah it's also has a huge hitbox

#

so it deflects pretty much everything

lament coral
#

and when you get the big spin hammer it's just residentzag

manic dune
#

the special is pretty good too btw if you haven't tried it

lament coral
#

residentzag 💨 💿💿💿

manic dune
#

it doesn't heal you but it's good

lament coral
#

oh, I tried it. One of the runs I was only offered a special, Aphrodite's

#

went through Tartarus and Asphodel relying solely on it cause of no attack

#

it's basically a slightly weaker explosive spear, with no AOE but it can pierce

#

@glossy fog Guan Yu isn't affected by Lasting Consequences

#

even at 100%, you're still healed for 1 with each spin tick

glossy fog
#

I mean when picking out healing items

#

That there should be a warning saying that Guan Yu will reduce their effects

thorny edge
#

it says health/healing is reduced by x% right in the description

glossy fog
#

Yeah I get that, it's just I miscalculated on a Chaos Boon, and it made me wish there was a little heads up when picking things out

night pasture
#

Demeter has a boon that causes you to burst chill around you on cast, but I'm carrying hera's bow, which loads your casts into the bow

#

does anyone know how they interact, if at all?

#

I would expect that the demeter boon just wouldn't work

unkempt pagoda
#

the burst still happens around you, it just goes off when the cast does (same as always)

lament coral
#

oh yeah, Chaos boons do not say that they're reduced by Guan Yu

unkempt pagoda
#

just that now, if you loaded multiple casts, the burst happens the same amount of times

night pasture
#

Danke, much obliged

rancid shore
#

why don't any health increases/healing already display the calculated result?

lament coral
#

Hydralite does

#

as does the potion

#

minotaur hearts as well

rancid shore
#

it's inconsistent then which is worse

lament coral
#

yeah, it's odd

wind vale
#

hmm - about the cursed blade - does it work with piercing wave?

teal laurel
#

no iirc

wind vale
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would still no be too interesting but sort of a way to make the tiny bit of healing ok

night pasture
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man, about time:

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I've been searching for that boon since they added prophecies

gaunt hinge
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I see now why I haven't got that one yet... it's a legendary

teal laurel
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\\i still havent seen it

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i have no idea how many goats i need to sacrifice for it

solid tide
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I've only ever gotten one legendary, but I've gotten that single one 3 or 4 times

teal laurel
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its easy to get legenddaries

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if you know the pre requisites

wind vale
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its usually quite natural for what the legendary does

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except for athena

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🙂

teal laurel
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yeah

night pasture
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yeah, but if you haven't seen the legendary and haven't looked it up, you won't know what it does...

teal laurel
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athena was weird

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chaos is just

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lmao

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RNG

night pasture
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chaos doesn't have prerequisites, does it? I can't imagine how that would work

wind vale
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brilliant reposte is just barely connected but would probably not be picked if not for the legendary

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and i dont think chaos does(or hermes, except maybe it not being the first boon that run)

lament coral
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I think he has requirements for his death defiance, in that you need to have a couple of his boons before it shows up

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though I'm not entirely sure, only ever got it once myself and I had a few Chaos boons by then already

versed ibex
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has anybody ever managed to kill Theseus before Asterius? Is there special dialogue if you do that?

rancid shore
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i always do that

versed ibex
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really? Wow. I always take Asterius out first because Theseus with his AOE spells + Asterius charging around is a Bad Time for me 😂

rancid shore
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nothing really special just stuff like "no... the king..." or whatever

versed ibex
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aww, okay

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Theseus sounds really upset when you kill Asterius first

lament coral
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I did it twice, there's nothing special to it

rancid shore
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Oh they're both upset, but it's nothing special

wind vale
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he got less hp anyways - so if you are really strong and just aoe them down it may just happen

rancid shore
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I always do Theseus first because he's harder to dodge for me

wind vale
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and you can make asterius run into him

versed ibex
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the other one I want to see is charmed Asterius attacking Theseus, but the few times I charmed him it ran out before he got anywhere near Theseus

wind vale
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imagine if there is a special line if you make theseus kill asterius by charming him and we just never got it yet

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or the other way around as well

versed ibex
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they just give up because they're so horrified but what they've done 😢

wind vale
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i mean theseus originally killed him

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something based on that

rancid shore
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I like the reaction they have to when you have (minor spoilers?) ||the yarn of ariadne||

wind vale
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and multiple in a row

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i think even i dont have all of them yet

versed ibex
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i never buy stuff from Charon's wells... I should give it a try with the ariadne thing. But I suck at keeping track of how many chambers are left

wind vale
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the problem is that its way too easy to use it up before

versed ibex
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I guess you could have the charon keepsake to make it last longer, but.... I'd rather have the broken spearpoint

green birch
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If you press tab you can see how many chambers you’ve gone through and the count for each biome is always consistent

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I believe the Elysium bosses are around 36

lament coral
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don't you mean B?

wind vale
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does charons keepsake still make the yarn buff multiple boons?

lament coral
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it's B by default on my end

night pasture
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it's b by default but literally everyone I know rebinds it to tab

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funny how that works

versed ibex
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it's okay, I'm on controller anyway 😛 the answer is "select"

green birch
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Tab, B, whatever button you have mapped to opening Boons haha

rancid shore
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Man I should do that

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Tab is way better than B

green birch
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Do it

rancid shore
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I'll probably forget tbh

thorny edge
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even the wiki lists it as Tab

wind vale
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it was tab by default

lament coral
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Elysium is 36, Asphodel is 24, and Tartarus is 12 or 13, can't remember

wind vale
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and i somehow kept that without doing anything

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when they changed it

versed ibex
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the mid-bosses aren't consistent though, right?

lament coral
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though truth be told, I wish we got a different icon for a pre-boss room

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like, you can count em anyway

rancid shore
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i was a little bit sad when my max chambers went from 69 to 70

lament coral
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might as well make it visual

wind vale
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its the shop icon 😄

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on one of the doors

versed ibex
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I've actually been tricked by the shop 😭 I thought I was a the area boss but it was just a random shop instead

wind vale
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and mid bosses can be in many different positions

versed ibex
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(because I was not keeping track)

wind vale
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as in you can skip it and see it again later

night pasture
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huh, in a weird coincidence, I just got something I hadn't seen before, which was a room who entrance had the skull "difficult" marker on it

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but it was a fountain room

alpine ivy
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are all 4th aspects unlockable?

night pasture
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I guess it was a very difficult fountain

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no, not yet, just the spear's

alpine ivy
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aight

wind vale
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the skull marker on a fountain seems really strange

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i always find it funny if its just a survive room where it also tends to make it easier but thats just silly

novel python
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Hammer or duel

wind vale
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i tend to go for the 2 and rely on just getting the hammer again later

versed ibex
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yeah, I'd rather get two boons now and get the hammer later

novel python
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That was my thought as well, kinda

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Hmm is Cursed Blade worth it

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Cursed Slash*

rancid shore
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no lmao

wind vale
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sadly seems bad since the huge nerf

novel python
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Other two options are shadow slash ( more backstab damage ) or Cruel Thrust ( 200% dmg and 40% crit on thrust )

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I guess thrust since nemesis?

wind vale
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nemesis make me think the other one

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but i wouldnt be happy with all 3 there

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i guess depends if you want to try to backstab or do the combo

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(you can dash move the thrust if you time it right)

alpine ivy
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is aphrodite call good?

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it says something about damage but it's never dealt dmg when i used it

atomic panther
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At maximum charge, it deals 2500 damage in addition to charming

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Useful for shredding bosses

alpine ivy
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i have the heroic one

atomic panther
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It's always 2500 damage

alpine ivy
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so it only deals dmg at max charge

atomic panther
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Yes

alpine ivy
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ok

night pasture
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huh, I thought you used to only be able to get 2 hermes boons, but another one showed up that I bought in the final shop

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was that a change or have I just been misleading myself

manic ermine
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Hermes has no limit

granite lava
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you can only get two hermes as room rewards + one in charon styx shop

wind vale
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you can get more

granite lava
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@wind vale please explain

wind vale
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you just walk into rooms and get him - more than just 2

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i often get 2 in asphodel alone even if i dont want to

granite lava
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thats what I said, you can get up to 2 in rooms, then 1 in the charon shop

wind vale
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also - do you consider the alternative room(alternative to a shop) before bosses same as a shop?

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2 in ashpodel, 1 in elysium from just normal rooms

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is what i got at some point

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also rerolls - how do they factor in?

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(the first question was because i often see him there as well)

night pasture
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I thought it was like hammers where you can get up to 2, but if you don't pick it, it will still be in the pool to draw from

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I got "Disciple of Hermes" on my victory screen again

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is he the only god that does that? I had more athena than hermes boons

wind vale
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i often get chaos because i jump into all gates i see(including mini shops)

proud storm
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you can get "disciple of [olympian]" if you end a run with 8 or more of their boons

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with the exception of hermes and chaos

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you can have scion of chaos if you have like 3-4 of their boons

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not really sure what gives you disciple of hermes

night pasture
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aaaah

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I had 3 hermes boons

proud storm
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cuz if it's just getting his boons at every opportunity you get it's easy

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there's a bunch more titles like that

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including some for speedrunners if i recall correctly

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or even if you do a perfect clear

nimble parrot
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didn't expect rail to be my first clear but hey

proud storm
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even some if you finish a run on the verge of death

novel python
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Dual Shot VS Exit Wounds? Poseidon aspect

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id say exit

proud storm
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exit to synergize with the aspect

wind vale
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what is a perfect clear for that to appear? - i got that once and have no clue

lament coral
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what happen?

solid cairn
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@proud storm I got “swimming in cash” last run because I was 4 off of a diamond and didn’t want to do another room and didn’t spend it on anything else for some reason

proud storm
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perfect clear is when you finish a run at full health

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also nice one jdfhjdsgf

solid cairn
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Is swimming in cash ending with 1000 or more

proud storm
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idk i didnt get that one

solid cairn
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I got over 1000 because sisyphus

lament coral
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don't you mean Shady?