#h1-builds-and-combat

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twilit venture
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@burnt rune cool, thanks for the reply, i guess i'll get back into the hades mines

north kernel
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I wish there was a keepsake that makes deadalus hammers drop more tbh

heady zephyr
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There are a few weapon aspects that need hammer upgrades to be good

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Like eris is a bit mediocre without the triple bomb anyway

burnt rune
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also, yeah, I like Guan Yu, but making it entirely based on the slowest stand still move of the game while also making you a glass cannon without a cannon is... rough

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the cursed blade does the same far better

onyx flint
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most of the shield hammer upgrades and half of the sword and spear upgrades are garbage imo

north kernel
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I think achilles is the most consistently good aspect over all

twilit venture
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the guan yu has considerably more damage, but not enough for the extreme downside

burnt rune
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make it chargeable while you move

onyx flint
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also the new charge special is trash with charon bow because it limits the range of your special arrows and forces you to sit there and charge them

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at least make it so you can choose whether to charge them or not holy crap

stray frigate
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did they changed exposed mechanics?

wooden panther
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Having completed the Guan Yu Fated Prophecy, I can't see me using again in it's current state unless I am specifically request to demonstrate it to someone.

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It's just... too costly for what it does, even with the maximum investment

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Which is a shame because the idea behind it is really cool

burnt rune
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Demeter Duos don't show up on the Divine Pairings prophecy ):

robust geyser
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Right, Guan Yu.

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It's... interesting?

onyx flint
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daedalus hammers are like russian roulette dude, like stuff such as the dash attack upgrade on sword is so great but then you might end up having to choose between like double nova, big chop and cruel thrust instead

robust geyser
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Which is a very polite way of saying absolutely unusable.

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It reduces attack speed.

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And the healing is inubstantial.

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It makes hearts give 5 max hp.

wooden panther
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10HP at max level

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And 2HP from Darkness

robust geyser
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I assume the intention is to be a challenge?...

twilit venture
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nah, it's more to make up for the built in lifesteal

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but it's a bit too much

robust geyser
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The lifesteal is abysmal.

novel python
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Wait explosive bullets from rail was cut out?

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Tf?

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How exactly are you supposed to stagger foes now?

robust geyser
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It requires a charge up and gives back, what, 5hp?

twilit venture
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yeah, i think they overestimated the effect of lifesteal on guan yu

onyx flint
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yeah they took out one of the rail's good daedaLUL hammers and added more landmines instead LOL

robust geyser
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And even then the Final Boss™️ is just going to one-shot you.

twilit venture
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@novel python the stagger is probably why they took it out, lol

novel python
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That's just bs

robust geyser
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Which makes lifesteal not only abysmal, but rather Actually Literally Pointless.

wooden panther
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And that's assuming the charge isn't interrupted

robust geyser
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Oh yeah, that too.

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Because you can die while chugging estus charging the attack.

wooden panther
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And as a side note, Poseidon makes it even worse.... Don't ask how I know that...

robust geyser
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oof

onyx flint
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maybe im crazy but i just strongly feel lthat all the daedalus hammer options should be either completely neutral or an actual buff, situationally (depending on your build)

twilit venture
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does poseidon just push everyone out of the blades, stopping you from damaing them

robust geyser
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I'm starting to think this is a sneaky criticism of the chinese government.

wooden panther
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Heck, the slightest bump stops your charge, which was a problem with all charge attacks but especially the spear becuase with the bow you wanted to be at a save distance and the shield you could hide behind if sensible

unkempt ridge
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wow middle management butterfly ball is actually aids

wooden panther
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But the spear has you needing to be in the open and up close, it's the same problem with the Hades' Aspect

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It does, Mr Nobody. You get one heal proc only before shunting people away

novel python
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Does anyone know how to unlock dusa's keepsake?

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As in, I know it should be a hidden quest

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But what's that

twilit venture
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just gotta keep talking to her

novel python
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Ah

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ive got the locked heart

zinc oasis
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Choose between double nova, cursed slash and the thing that change you attack aha

robust geyser
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Right, are the butterfly things supposed to be near impossible to see or is that just my colourblindness?

wooden panther
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Bit of both, I'd say. I have trouble spotting them unless there's a lot...

barren plume
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@novel python Just use demeter or poseidon now for the rail

thorny edge
twilit venture
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@novel python iunno, she started accepting more nectar from me right after the update happened, along with a string of new conversations

barren plume
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Anybody know if cluster bomb is worth?

north kernel
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demeter has a 2nd tier upgrade that makes the enemies take a burst of dmg when you reach 10 stacks of chill

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really good on rail and spear

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if you run flurry jab / serrated edge spear that is

novel python
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@twilit venture I'm maxed with her, I just need to find out how to unlock her keepsake

twilit venture
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ooh, no idea then

novel python
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@north kernel Or spread shot rail ig?

twilit venture
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sorry

north kernel
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yeah

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any of the rails work tbh

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just dash attack to shoot faster

barren plume
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^

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Eris rail is really nice imo.

still atlas
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does dash while charging spin work on new spear aspect?

novel python
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At least yay, you can see all the contractor's stuff all the time now

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SO everything that says decor is just cosmetic and the work orders are the good sh1t right?

twilit venture
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mostly, yeah

novel python
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I also can't find achilles to talk to him

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for unlocking the new spear

twilit venture
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should be in the same place? by the new vase things

novel python
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hes not there

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ohwell

autumn bough
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He's on break

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forever

still atlas
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He’s finally free

onyx flint
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hahahahahhahaha i freaking lost a death defiance on the furies for the first time in forever becaus e i took charged special with chiron bow

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this is such A S S

turbid needle
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snow blast is extremely good on poseidon aspect like wow

onyx flint
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you're force to stand there for 10 minutes to charge the special because just tapping Y gives you a melee range special LMAO

novel python
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@turbid needle Better than true strike?

turbid needle
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which one is that again?

novel python
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Artemis

stray frigate
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is it me or exposed doesnt work????

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or they changed it?

fallen quarry
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In case you guys haven't tried it, if you stand in lava while fishing, you'll get a warm fuzzy feeling

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I suggest trying it if you get the chance

turbid needle
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@novel python yeah no i get that but which boon is it, it's been a bit since i last played

ripe hollow
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Wait, how do you use the fishing rod, exactly?

turbid needle
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there are some shiny spots in some rooms in which you can fish

novel python
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Artemis' cast, I thought the snow blast was dem's cast too?

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@fallen quarry I'd rather not lose all my hp, thanks

turbid needle
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nah, snow blast is a 40-50-60-70 dmg aoe when you cast

novel python
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Ah

turbid needle
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her cast is pretty terrible

burnt rune
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does dash while charging spin work on new spear aspect?
Yeah

prime berry
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Might have been days but what are the Demeter Duos?

stray frigate
dense star
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Man, cluster bomb deals so little damage

barren plume
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Why I didn't take it.

prime berry
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@dense star use it point blank. They all hit doing 250% damage

onyx flint
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wtf were they thinking when they made the charged special like this

dense star
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Took if for science

burnt rune
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Only Duo I got so far was Demeter/Dio, makes your cast explode twice, one Dio, then one ice vortex

onyx flint
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this game you have to stay mobile

unkempt ridge
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welcome to the "everything needs a bit of tweaking" patch

onyx flint
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using charge shot just Fs you

burnt rune
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the cast just appears on the spot too, there's no throwing animation

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(like Dio's)

dense star
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Yeah, up close helps it a bit, but it's still pretty bad

prime berry
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Each can crit too

barren plume
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Sounds great for the bow that can load casts for ammo.

prime berry
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It’s good if you have the speed for it

dense star
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Artemis boons are good, that's news to me

barren plume
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I like her dash.

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Support fire was good. Still is it's free damage.

novel python
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Ok.

turbid needle
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do boons get replaced less often now? it sure feels that way

unkempt ridge
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her legendary doesn't seem hard to get tbh

barren plume
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I never get replaced boons so.

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No legendary has seemed hard for me so far.

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besides hermes.

onyx flint
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guys can i revert my game to the previous patch

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is there a way?

barren plume
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Stop complaining.

turbid needle
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why are you crying

onyx flint
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this is so bad holy

barren plume
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No.

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It really isn't.

turbid needle
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just wait for a patch if it's sooo unplayable

onyx flint
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yes.

turbid needle
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go outside

heady zephyr
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Oh yeah how does hera bow work with the bouncing arrow upgrade

onyx flint
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i mean im going to do literally anything else

heady zephyr
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Does it cast on the first enemy hit or what

unkempt ridge
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casts on first enemy hit yes.

novel python
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Does Dems' legendary work on bosses?

unkempt ridge
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not that I saw in my run

novel python
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ill try it now

heady zephyr
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@unkempt ridge that opens up a lot

north kernel
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how are you guys liking the demeter boons?

heady zephyr
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Cast for single target damage, bouncing arrow for add clear

deep vault
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its really fun for crowded small room like in Styx

unkempt ridge
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demeter boons all seem really strong other than her cast.

stray frigate
deep vault
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Demeter boons are interesting to say the least

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You need to update @stray frigate

twilit stag
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reduced damage on support fire makes non-special rail feel so bad

deep vault
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They already fixed it

north kernel
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I have it

dense star
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Haven't seen enough of 'em, but I'm currently lacking in damage scaling from 'em on this rail run, rip

stray frigate
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ah ok thx

turbid needle
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her legendary seems mediocre though

north kernel
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@unkempt ridge her dash is meh

twilit stag
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and this hammer upgrade that adds +1 dmg per consecutive hit is such a joke

dense star
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Guessing they're good though

north kernel
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but yeah she seems super super strong

hollow sorrel
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I wanna see max tight deadline runs with these new damage/enemy HP changes

deep vault
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Its easy to get but its a nice execute tbh

novel python
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@unkempt ridge it does work. Tisi just died suddenly when I was a couple hits away from killing her

calm sandal
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New Hydra fight is dope, the new arena is just different enough to be great and the changes to 2 invuln phases instead of four makes the fight so much more fun

deep vault
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I also LOVE her nurturing Boon

novel python
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And I don't deal that much damage.

unkempt ridge
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her dash allows you to easily apply an 8 second debuff, which is great for damage boost

turbid needle
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what's the new hydra arena like? i always run triple extreme measures

deep vault
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and when you have a rapid attacking weapon and get the one where enemies explode after 10 stacks you can get some nice damage up

unkempt ridge
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hydra arena hasnt changes

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hasnt changed*

warm kayak
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it looks a little nicer but is mostly the same layout

stray frigate
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why i can hear fish in rooms where they even cant be????

turbid needle
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then what's eazee on about

calm sandal
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It looked like the top edges were different but I might just be crazy

unkempt ridge
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it's been changed cosmetically, not functionally

turbid needle
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haven't seen meg yet, is the change noticeable?

deep vault
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I also think they removed the healing pots

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Nah

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@ meg

novel python
unkempt ridge
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yeah new asphodel lookout is nice

dense star
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Well I just got the demeter legend, maybe enemies having 10% hp will help until I die at Hades

unkempt ridge
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makes for a good background picture

novel python
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^ my thought exactly

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But how can I get this in HD

unkempt ridge
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turn up your resolution ingame?

north kernel
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what does killing freeze do exactly

novel python
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I mean I did that, but still a bit pixelated

north kernel
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do i need to chill every enemy on screen?

novel python
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It's at my screens resolution

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But the photo looks better

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Higher res might make it clearer?

unkempt ridge
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@north kernel every enemy in the room

dense star
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Yeah, killing freeze needs every enemy in the room chill'd

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So far it seems a little tough to activate, but good when active. Probably better v. Bosses

unkempt ridge
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it's great vs elites and bosses

random yew
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very good vs theseus and asterius

barren plume
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^

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Very good if you have aoe

dense star
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Yeah, nice v T&A

barren plume
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Overall this update has been v controversial lol

untold dust
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did they nerfed the base damages?

unkempt ridge
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anyone know if demeter + chiron bow special applies more than 1 stack per special?

dense star
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Though I guess if your damage is trash like mine was, it does trigger Theseus's phase 2 before Asterius is dead

onyx flint
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it does

hollow sorrel
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Is Demeter's boon raising boon supposed to boost literally everything?

onyx flint
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just dont take the charged special hammer : ^ )

north kernel
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demeter cast seems pretty alright too

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might be good with hera bow

unkempt ridge
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yeah the charged specials seem pretty.... terrible.

onyx flint
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yes its particularly bad with chiron bow tho

north kernel
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^^

hollow sorrel
north kernel
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wait my brain just did a dumb

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that's not her cast that's the call

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...

barren plume
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Wait does demeter have two duos based on her cast?

onyx flint
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she has a duo with dionysus cast

grim adder
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for a game that, especially at high levels, seems to require almost constant moving, introducing weak charge-ups wasn't ideal

dapper fox
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oh no they're making festive Pog even better?

onyx flint
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YES

gloomy scroll
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hey so is it just me or does new spear aspect heal proc on random destructibles and is that intended

barren plume
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She has a duo with art for her cast, someone's saying she has one with poseidon too with her cast.

onyx flint
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@ danikov

north kernel
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is the wiki updated?

dapper fox
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it is not

unkempt ridge
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@gloomy scroll yes it does, unsure if intended

dapper fox
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how do you get the new aspect? Achilles is not popping up in the house

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did i get really unlucky?

onyx flint
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yea just unlucky he disappeared for 3 runs for me

grim adder
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I swear I had jeweled columns before the patch, didn't even get a refund

maiden nexus
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Best Weapon is Bow. Change my mind

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Btw why the devs gotta nerf my wife Artemis ;_;

heady zephyr
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On the other hand, the gold cost increases means that convenience fee is less painful since you can't afford anything even before the pact

dense star
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Was the only artemis nerfs to support fire & hunting blades?

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If anything, she probably got off easy I'd guess

grim adder
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she also lost a boon to hermes

dense star
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Right

barren plume
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Nerfing gold for everything to make a mild optimistic outlook on convenience fee "better" isn't healthy

heady zephyr
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I do not like the gold nerf

dense star
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Wait, wasn't that boon one of her weaker ones anyway?

heady zephyr
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Other stuff so far just feels like it needs minor balance changes

zinc oasis
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The lifesteal on sword is broken

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Only 110 HP and I just kill the final boss without dodging

maiden nexus
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Support fire was good for Rail and Bow with Hammer Upgrade

barren plume
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@dense star which boon.

dense star
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The one she lost to hermes

heady zephyr
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Maybe rail needs a slightly faster rof or accuracy by default now

zinc oasis
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You steal much more than ennemis deal....
Really no fun to play

north kernel
barren plume
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Support fire was good period. It was free damage since it didn't take a slot for abilities

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and could proc on anything

heady zephyr
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Support fire was a bit too good but it might be a bit too bad now

dense star
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Yeah support fire got pretty insane with gun and bow special

unkempt ridge
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it didnt work on bow special

hollow sorrel
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yeah, um, affects all boons at the moment

unkempt ridge
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bow special only fired one arrow

deep gyro
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they probaly need boons to act diffrently depending on what kind of weapon it is

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other wise some boons like support fire are kinda impossible to balance

hollow sorrel
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I have 4 heroic boons and 5 epic boons

dapper fox
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i really liked support fire :(

unkempt ridge
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rtip support fire, never to be used again

dense star
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Guess my memory of it is worse, or that was just using it with non-chiron hitting multiple enemies

warm kayak
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which one was support fire again?

heady zephyr
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Free seeking arrow whenever you hit anything

warm kayak
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Ahhh yeah

dense star
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But not quite anything

dapper fox
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it's not about it's uses its really cool looking hopefully it's not unusable after the nerf

warm kayak
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How much did they nerf the damage?

barren plume
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Support fire is still good it's just not godlike lmfao.

dense star
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Still a little sad it didn't multiproc with Ares cast given the wording (yeah I know that would be completely busted)

north kernel
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quite a bit

deep gyro
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i went from being a decent pick no matter what to only pick it up with rail imo

north kernel
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went down from around 23+ dmg lvl1 epic rarity to only around 14

dapper fox
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@dense star or Zeus' shield aspect special.

light trellis
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Support fire is still good on rail, but pretty nah on everything else

heady zephyr
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Maybe support fire should scale off the damage of the hit that procs it

north kernel
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spear???

barren plume
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Spear still good with support fire.

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Imo at least.

north kernel
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spear with flurry jab is literally rail but better

light trellis
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on another note though, I feel like post nerf support fire has the same issue as post nerf life affirmation, where all the rarities are basically the same value

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spear with flurry jab doesnt have my 1k damage hestia crits

dapper fox
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@heady zephyr thats a good suggestion!

barren plume
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Why the hrell

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Did they nerf

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Zeus aid?

north kernel
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damn

unkempt ridge
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cause zues boons werent quite bad enough yet

deep gyro
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did they buff anything just asking?

dapper fox
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I dunno but i hate non-imprevious calls

north kernel
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crits are kinda irrelevant once enemies have armor

warm kayak
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I saw someone say $1500 gold boons in styx is that true?

unkempt ridge
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1300 I think, but yes

barren plume
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Some of the nonimpervious calls are good, Dio and zeus are pretty very risky since you have to get right next to them. Zeus more so since its range is even smaller.

warm kayak
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😦 😦 😦 😦 😦 😦

hollow sorrel
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the zeus shield was said to be buffed, even though it did the same daamge against the training skeleton

barren plume
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It might be rate of damage?

radiant violet
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Anyone getting an issue where the epic launcher doesn't update the game?

barren plume
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Higher damage at lower ranks?

hollow sorrel
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possibly

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doesn't help anyone that maxed it out already

warm kayak
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why are you like this, charon 😦

barren plume
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^

royal coral
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PLEASE work on bulls charge attack... it seems like so RNG he runs against the wall or glitchs away....

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bull = asterios

barren plume
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"The chariots don't do multiple ticks of damage on charge anymore and there are less shield bearers"
"What did it cost?"
"muh support fire"

dapper fox
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LOL

turbid needle
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not to mention "Jesus christ Guan Yu makes me have 1 hp "

dapper fox
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''fewer shield bearers''

deep gyro
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thannk goodness i was more scared of those chariots than anything else in the game

novel python
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How exactly do I unlock the new spear aspect? I've tried talking to Achilles, it didn't unlock it

turbid needle
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still better than Bugged Asterius with multiple delayed hit leap

dense star
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Chariot wombo combo gone is nice

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Asterius charge is pretty hilarious, comedically good turning radius

still atlas
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achilles will have a voice line that says 'over here' one time and he'll give it to you

fallow niche
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Anyone know what Demeters duo boons are yet?

novel python
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Ah

still atlas
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idk if its random or not?

novel python
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So I guess another run?

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Ive already done one

turbid needle
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for now I only know the Zeus-Demeter duo

fallow niche
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I haven't seen any yet

novel python
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And he didn't give it to me

still atlas
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have you tried going in the bedroom then going back over yet

fallow niche
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What is that one? @turbid needle

novel python
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Not yet since he appeared here

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Let's see

barren plume
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There's a zzeus demeter duo?

turbid needle
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@fallow niche Zeus/Dio - Cold Fusion - Jolted doesn't get expired by enemy attacking , Jolted Duration : 10 seconds

novel python
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Nope, nothing

barren plume
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Well that's the third one.

turbid needle
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@fallow niche so enemies can be affected by jolted damage multiple times

fallow niche
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Seems really meh

dense star
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Well cold fusion sounds pretty good

barren plume
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Dio/dem , dem/art, dem/zeus

still atlas
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i guess another run 🤷‍♂️

dense star
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Actually, nah

turbid needle
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@fallow niche well I had it on the zeus attack rail lol

novel python
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That and it stays on the enemy so you can proc priv stat easier

barren plume
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that's actually really strong if you add zeus's legendary into the mix.

dense star
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Usually your jolted effect applies it regularily

novel python
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They've made hydra fight faster

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But it's also a bit harder since all the heads spawn faster

fallow niche
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If you're attacking them a lot with zeus damage then they have jolted all the time anyway

dapper fox
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duo boons are so fun. They were a great addition to the game

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are

barren plume
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Honestly I feel like zeus's legendary is the reason all of his base abilities are doodoo for the most part.

still atlas
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oh yeah

dense star
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Duo boons are cool

turbid needle
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yeah, kinda true @barren plume

barren plume
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Because if you had strong zeus boons and then got his legendary it'd be busted.

turbid needle
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it's the same case as with Artemis and support fire kinda

still atlas
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i got some really good combos with duo buff w the new spear aspect

dense star
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But I do kinda worry that for some specific mechanics they feel a bit essential to that build type

turbid needle
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had the Deadly Reversal, Athena Attack, Brilliant riposte with massive spin...

still atlas
turbid needle
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if it deflected stuff... well stuff died

pearl scaffold
unkempt ridge
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oh god... chaos boon that gives +75% damage to my special, but for 4 rooms if I attack I take 3 damage... and I'm using chiron bow. I want it so bad

pearl scaffold
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this thing is insanely broken

burnt rune
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ok yeah, Demeter cast kinda sucks

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rest feels pretty good

barren plume
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And she might have two duo boons solely for her cast.

unkempt ridge
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yeah, but if you dont take her cast you'll never see those boons, so... meh

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and one of her duo boons is trash anyways

barren plume
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???

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The art/dem one?

unkempt ridge
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yeah. the damage boost it gives isnt good enough to make up for the fact that the cast is terrible

rancid shore
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I literally just did a run where I beat the final boss using only that

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🤷‍♀️

unkempt ridge
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and if you had the ares/artemis duo boon instead, would it have been better?

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by like... a factor of 10?>

rancid shore
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well, no because i didn't have any rifts :P

unkempt ridge
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you know what I mean 😛

rancid shore
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it actually might not have been better?

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it was over pretty quick

novel python
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Now that spearpoint was nerfed, what's the keepsake of choice for styx?

hollow sorrel
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wow, starting 2nd biome with 36 health because of the cursed blade upgrade

barren plume
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I use cerb trinket for everything if i'm not using a boon trink.

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So.......I've heard maybe t00f

dense star
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I'd say skelly tooth, but that also got nerfed

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So I dunno

still atlas
#

oh wait howd skelly tooth get nerfed

rancid shore
#

yeah i was about to say it's not in the patch notes(?)

dense star
#

Is Cerb trinket +50 hp at level 3?

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That might be better depending on your number of death defiances

deep gyro
#

yea cerb maxes out at +50hp

dense star
#

90 hp revive at level 3

fluid trellis
#

Hey, just watched a video about this game and it looks dope. Could any kind person tell me if there has been progress wipes since its in early access?

pearl scaffold
#

dash attack was doing like 500 dmg total, thats if i didn't crit

unkempt ridge
#

no progress wipes so far, and I don't expect any

grim adder
#

@fluid trellis people have been playing since day 1 and not unlocked everything, it's all rolled forward fairly nicely

bold bear
#

Is there a list of all demeter boons? I especially want to know the new duos.

stray frigate
#

this fishing thing reminds me about gwent in witcher. Why do i even need to go and find my mother(Daughter) when i can just have some fishing(Gwent)

fluid trellis
#

@unkempt ridge @grim adder Okay lovely, thanks

barren plume
#

@bold bear We know 3 duos so far: Dem/art, dem/dio, dem/zeus

dire mason
#

@fluid trellis No progress wipes as folks have said, and we're specifically trying to rollout updates without people losing progress. 👍

heady zephyr
#

There very likely won't be any progress wipes at this point considering all the core systems are pretty well established

fluid trellis
#

@dire mason That is great. I have to say, being a rogue-like genre fan, this game looks awesome. Cannot wait to try it out 👍🏼

dire mason
#

Hey thank you! If you decide to pick it up, I hope you enjoy! 🎉

bold bear
#

Hell mode is the only one where it seemed to have been a sort of reset if you wanted to do that

#

I kiiinda want to remove hell mode. Or at least to have some use for all of my shadow orbs rooCry

random yew
#

I haven't tried hell mode yet

#

is it something you do on a new save or something you do on the save you've had going?

#

also I just unlocked the guan yu spear after my 300th run xD

turbid needle
#

gg, and well rekt

dire mason
#

Hell mode requires a new save to get started. 👍

heady zephyr
#

Ahh no wonder I didn't see it. Ty

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I figured it was just something you unlocked near max heat

unkempt ridge
#

unless you like pain for the sole reason of liking pain, I wouldnt do hell mode

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no benefits to it

bold bear
#

Hell mode basically just starts you out with a minimum of 5 heat

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And a few forced modifiers

turbid needle
#

and it's not exactly that great to be honest because one of forced modifiers is ... budget cut

bold bear
#

The worst of which are a max of 2500 shadow orbs, and no invuln frames after gettin gh it

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I mean,b eing forced to build around budget cuts is kinda fun?

#

But it just makes one of the metacurrencies 100% useless

hollow sorrel
#

It really just gets rid of the last three mirror choices, which are the RNG boons

bold bear
#

And makes you pick between damage and a third death defy, pr. much

turbid needle
#

I mean, you basically cut one death defiance and you have space for everything else

hollow sorrel
#

You can still get 50% backstab, 50% boiling blood, 50% privledge, +dash, +3 death def, +cast crystals

fluid trellis
#

In terms of difficulty and the permanent upgrades, would you say the game has a good amount of content? Trying to find more info on it but I wonder this way is faster

bold bear
#

This game has hundreds if not thousands of hours worth of content

novel python
analog sail
novel python
#

@analog sail I guess the killing freeze is for bossing?

bold bear
#

Kree, getting a death defy back is always great

novel python
#

Since it's easier to freeze all the enemies when the only enemy is the boss

analog sail
#

@novel python take the DD, Spent Spirit is much better with a good deflect

novel python
#

Aight, thank

analog sail
#

If you have good AoE the effect is literally always active in Styx

keen shard
#

So chaps

novel python
#

Good aoe as in? Bow bounce shot? xd

keen shard
#

Best spear point replacement for hell mode?

harsh leaf
#

Have you found all 4 new duo boons? , I found two with Demeter. 1 with Artemis and one with Dionysus

analog sail
#

Super nova, double bow special, the new hazard blast

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you got options

turbid needle
#

hmm... depends on phase of game I guess

novel python
#

double bow special?

#

Keke

harsh leaf
#

Any idea what the other 2 new ones are?

novel python
#

kek*

keen shard
#

Also whats the general run down on new spear since i like spears

#

Havent touched my pc

burnt rune
#

get Delta Shot
press attack, dash, attack
6 shots without the delay of delta
nice

unkempt ridge
#

new final boss patterns seem much faster than before. Just me? also, should this go in spoiler chat, or is it fine here....

keen shard
#

Fine here

unkempt ridge
#

general rundown on new spear: you throw the spin now, so it's like ares boon, it heals you for each enemy hit, the attack is slower but does more damage, and it takes away 60% of your hp

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general thoughts are that it's interesting, but the negatives outweigh the positives

wheat lintel
#

Hi guys!

Does anyone know if Hades is able to run 120 fps?? Mine seems stuck at 60, and I cant figure out where to change it

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Its stupid. It's been bugging me all day, and as soon as I post the question here, I immediately to go check my nvidia settings.

keen shard
#

Bruh im totaly going to use new spear in hell mode lol

wheat lintel
#

I found the issue. I am so very sorry!

latent badger
#

note for guan yu aspect: kill the neutral stuff with your whirlwind

hard holly
#

Good luck with that, the new spear is kind of painful

keen shard
#

I enjoy the challenge

#

Now to actually grind out the unlock lmao

novel python
#

My Fated Authority just rerolled Aphro into Aphro

#

Can I report this anywhere?

normal sleet
#

aphro's a bit jealous even as a door ornament

turbid needle
#

let's go...

#

0 death defiances with cursed sword lol

#

and I'm at hades lol

burnt rune
#

don't get hit by the skulls

turbid needle
#

more like don't get hit by d3th laz0r

#

and spin finished me off

heady zephyr
#

Pray he doesn't summon an armoured chariot either

spiral slate
#

I just had a horrible and great idea
blades of chaos as the last weapon

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👏

hollow sorrel
#

I have 15 HP if I equip the new spear...

somber hill
#

I love new spear so much

heady zephyr
#

Not sure life steal is a good perk for weapon boons/aspects. Kind of feel like it's more suited for a keepsake tbh

hollow sorrel
#

Yup, I'm starting a run, and hitting give up, to refund that garbage

#

I think everything hits me for like 15 hp

somber hill
#

Try the cerberus charm, should give you more health to get started

heady zephyr
#

Max health gains are also scaled down with it

#

So hermes charm is prob the best one actually

somber hill
#

Put me on 30 which meant I could take a hit and not immediately die. Also yeah, each centaur heart is +5 hp

unkempt ridge
#

I appear to have bugged the game... I'm permanently stuck in ares call after a room has been finished

hollow sorrel
#

F10 the bug

dim ridge
#

how do we fish? I just made it to Euridice with the Rod of Fishing and heard a line saying "i could fish there" but don't see it in the controls

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and dont see a spot on the map to interact with

quick igloo
#

Crystal beam and fully loaded

turbid needle
#

Chaos, my saviour

dim ridge
#

thats the build im trying to go for as well derpy lol

quick igloo
#

its bonkers

turbid needle
#

you're not affected by that damn Guan Yu spear dimnishing health

dim ridge
#

how do we get that btw?

quick igloo
#

I got it on the hera bow atm and oooof

turbid needle
#

then nobody sane in their mind would try to do chaos gate in tartarus LUL

hybrid canyon
#

Not sure if I would put a glitch here but on one of the Tartarus stages I dashed into the background

slender kettle
#

I need some advice on playing with the Bow. I'm just not getting it.

turbid needle
#

specific aspect ?

slender kettle
#

Any of them.

hard holly
#

Try to do dodge attacks as much as possible

dim ridge
#

wait nvm i figured out fishing lol

hard holly
#

The attack charges faster and youre safer

humble arrow
#

Is chill working?

cedar mirage
#

yo uh, what is the rod of fishing? i got it and idk what to do with it

hard holly
#

Other than that, just get the timing down

slender kettle
#

I guess I'm way too used to playing Shield.

cedar mirage
#

also, advice for the bow, use hera aspect with blade rifts

turbid needle
#

try to learn to dash after attacking

dim ridge
#

@cedar mirage there will be spots in the world you can interact with to fish

cedar mirage
#

ah

dim ridge
#

just dont do what i did and try to catch it too early lol

slender kettle
#

I have basic Hera aspect. I think.

#

That's the one with homing arrows, isn't it?

#

Or is that Chiron, I don't remember which.

fierce iron
#

Nope, that's Chiron

#

Hera loads your casts into your attack

slender kettle
#

...Oh.

#

That's really good.

hard holly
#

Eh, its ok, but you dont really gain any damage and lose the cast effects that can be quite useful

unkempt ridge
#

chiron is only good if you have it to rank 3-5

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at rank 1 it's kind of terrible

gray lintel
#

Cluster Bomb with the triple bomb upgrade

#

we are now a bomber airplane

unkempt ridge
#

the bow special can shotgun at close range with the zagreus aspect, so you can get close to enemies and hit them with 9 arrows at once

#

otherwise, its generally better to stick to attacks

grave iris
#

I gotta admit I'm LOVING the cursed blade from daedelus

brisk island
#

New aspect for Spear is incredible - but with my playstyle not combines. Attacks interrupts my "dodge rythm", so l'm have to decrease game speed... meanwhile [Boss:||Hades||] destroying me on slow speed, used to play on 30%. Ouch. tianPressF tianWut

heady zephyr
#

Bow special is slow though

rugged estuary
#

@brisk island I did not know game speed could even be changed

#

Are there notes for the followup patch yet?

brisk island
#

@rugged estuary l'm mean Heat modifier to add speed on enemies.

rugged estuary
#

aaah

faint sonnet
#

So much slow

brisk island
#

pretty similar that Modifier and "Game Speed" - just Zagreus continue be turtle 😂 @rugged estuary

valid burrow
#

is it just me or the sivine dash is not applying exposed? is that on purpose?

#

divine*

unkempt ridge
#

divine dash seems to not be applying effects at all, from a lot of reports

rugged estuary
#

Does anyone know what the 120 mb patch after the big patch was for?

unkempt ridge
#

bunch of hotfixes

turbid needle
#

Yeah same with the duo that afflicts doom when reflect is used

hard holly
#

Stuff like fixing the icon for the new keepsake

turbid needle
#

Dash doesn't seem to work with that

brisk island
#

@faint sonnet there possible even more slow enemies tianHappy (Demeter have one more boon which additionally decreased speed)

turbid needle
#

decay ?

faint sonnet
#

ooh

brisk island
#

@rugged estuary probably hotfix.

valid burrow
#

that's a shame, i literally can't get through a run reliably without divine dash.

brisk island
#

@faint sonnet anyway that combo already pretty nasty (atleast for enemies lol) 😄

spark turret
#

have you guys been having any problems with chaos?

#

I did a couple of runs and he seems to not be stacking boons properly both visually and or in gameplay

turbid needle
#

Not really, played around 5 runs so far

dim ridge
#

does anyone know how support fire interacts with the demeter cast?

turbid needle
#

Though, I might not be paying attention

dim ridge
#

will it send an arrow on every tick of damage?

#

or just when you cast like with ares

odd seal
#

@frail fable the issue was patched

spark turret
#

its only happening when you stack the same chaos boon

odd seal
#

update your game

spark turret
#

so like 2 attack buffs

turbid needle
#

I would guess support fire would only go once per cast

spark turret
#

like visually they aren't showing as seperate

frail fable
#

thanks for the update on the patch!

quick igloo
#

BRUH RARE CROP IS OP

turbid needle
#

Hmm, I haven't tried that so I'm not sure kmkeaton

spark turret
#

and in the case of getting an extra cast I got 2 but didn't get one of the extra cast

#

I'm sad because it was a run I was trying to make the demeter cast work

#

which I found out it really doesn't

#

so it died at enhanced theseus

turbid needle
#

First time I tried that cast I was using the bow that you load the cast in, it really doesn't work with that 😂

spark turret
#

it doesn't work well in general from what I've been testing

#

it was a heroic and had 5 lvls in it

#

and it was underwhelming

turbid needle
#

It looks it would be good against bosses but it might be underwhelming because of the turn rate

spark turret
#

hades is to fast

#

for it

#

minotaur and Theseus

#

are to fast for it

turbid needle
#

yeah the cast turn rate is way too slow

#

honsetly

#

I would love if it had like turn rate of brimstone

dim ridge
#

idk with one cast damage up from chaos i just messed up EM thesus

spark turret
#

it does to little and I put a lot of investment on it

dim ridge
#

one set of casts did like 1/5 theseus's hp in my run and its epic with 2 levels

spark turret
#

pretty sure my chaos boons were bugged or I woulda had around 70%+ cas damage

#

and it still felt underwhelming

bold bear
#

Artemis duo makes it turn faster

spark turret
#

the dou skill makes it faster?

bold bear
#

Ye

spark turret
#

oops forgot

dim ridge
#

oh thats awesome

#

what do you need for the duo?

spark turret
#

lmao that kinda horrid

bold bear
#

Just like how it does with Ares+Artemis

#

One artemis skill, and the demeter cast, I would assume.

spark turret
#

its really really hard to get dous half the time

bold bear
#

Really?

spark turret
#

chances can be low

bold bear
#

I don't usually have too much trouble if I try and go for a duo

#

But, yeah, it's not a guarantee

spark turret
#

its possible but I've found it very hard to get any

bold bear
#

Sometimes the requirements aren't fully obvious.

spark turret
#

to gate the cast being usable to a dou seems hard

bold bear
#

It's already plenty usable

spark turret
#

I didn't find it at all workable

#

it works in situations with enemy's who don't move

#

like butterfly balls and the hydra

#

it was agood

bold bear
#

I mean, ares base isn't amazing, either.

#

It's also very hard to hit moving enemies

spark turret
#

but this one feels more negative then the base cast

#

since you give up the damage up from putting in a cast into them

bold bear
#

I think it's definitely not the best cast.

#

I do like the secondary cast ability

spark turret
#

the blast when you cast?

#

that part was decent

#

I'll keep messing around with it

north kernel
#

the blast on cast + aphrodite cast is pretty good

#

you get privileged status for free

dim ridge
#

oh is blast on cast available with any spell?

north kernel
#

ye

dim ridge
#

i assumed it required demeter cast

spark turret
#

yeyeye

dim ridge
#

im on my first run post-patch rn

#

in styx currently

north kernel
#

nice

spark turret
#

also how was hades working for you guys ?

#

he was kinda weird for me

#

he would do the jar move and then never break them

#

idk if thats intended

north kernel
#

huh

spark turret
#

but it happened 3 times in a row

#

since hes supposed to do the wave and smash them all right?

heady zephyr
#

That happened to me once before this patch, so it might be an old issie

#

Or rather, he summoned pots, broke a handful, and then restarted the summon cycle

spark turret
#

its happened to me before this patch but not so many times in a row

#

it made it impossible to fight

turbid needle
#

Yeah he doesn't breaks the jars for me as well, though it used to happen in the past as well. Not sure what triggers it, maybe attacking him when he's summoning the jars.

spark turret
#

on high skull runs it literally makes is so hard

turbid needle
#

Lost my streak due it to today, the jar one shot me when I dodged into it

stray frigate
#

wow they added Furies statues

still atlas
#

has anyone seen any fishing spots in asphodel?

stray frigate
#

look impressively

#

yes i did

still atlas
#

oooo nice ty

#

I have yet to see any

turbid needle
#

yeah had my first spot on Eurydice

#

I think you can see them in both Tartarus and Asphodel, not sure about any higher floors though

stray frigate
#

saw in all lvls

#

in Styx it was in Charons shop

dim ridge
#

i found one in asphodel and styx in that run

#

yeah it was in charons

still atlas
#

I wonder what the encounter rate is at any given spot

stray frigate
#

looks like it appears only after full temple is clear

#

failbag this bug with fishies sounds

turbid needle
#

Where does it appear on the third floor>

stray frigate
#

fish spot?

turbid needle
#

yup

stray frigate
#

i had in fountain chamber

spark turret
#

I haven't had a single fishing spot

#

yet

#

but I think thats just bad luck

#

or I just straight up missed it

stray frigate
#

@spark turret there is a sound

turbid needle
#

I gives you a little sound I think when there is one on the floor

stray frigate
#

when it avaliable

spark turret
#

I'll be messing around with a lot trying to force the chaos bug

turbid needle
#

Also Zag comments the first time he sees one I believe

spark turret
#

since It genuinely hurt my run a lot

unkempt ridge
#

sooooo... just me, or is the 3 round burst on infinite ammo a huge nerf?

hot ember
#

Got Demeter and Artemis's duo.

#

Makes her cast go from useless to just usable.

#

Very whelming.

unkempt ridge
#

that was my general thought

hot ember
#

I feel like it's not worth it. You're super weak until you get it. Almost any other cast build will do better.

kindred matrix
#

o.o

#

Does anyone have a list of all the new booms?

#

Me still at work :(

#

Wish the patch notes listed them z.z

stray frigate
#

wish patchnotes was translated(

spark turret
#

yah hopefully they can fix up her cast a bit

#

having it pierce or more base speed

#

think that could fix it up a bit

unkempt ridge
#

been having this issue, wondering if anyone else is seeing it

#

every time I come out of DD invuln, I instantly get hit by the same attack that killed me

fallow niche
#

Yeah I can't get exposed status on anything with Athena dash now

#

I think it was stealth nerfed hard with that

calm sandal
#

Ravenous Will is crazy with Hera Bow, the bonus damage applies to all three of the casts you hit

serene nexus
#

Ravenous Will?

calm sandal
#

Demeter boon

serene nexus
#

What does that do again? I’ve only gotten up to her decay boon which is really neat

calm sandal
#

Gives you 20-30% ish damage when your out of bloodstones

#

But your counted as out of bloodstones when you load them into Hera bow

serene nexus
#

Oh that lol. Yeah that makes sense. You don’t have bloodstones when you load it into the bow

fallow niche
#

It also gives damage resistance too

serene nexus
#

I wonder if it’s intentional or unintentional

calm sandal
#

Probably unintentional, Hera bow has worked like that the whole time

#

But if they saw it they prob didn't see a reason to remove it since its not that strong

spark turret
#

lmao its a cool interaction

#

I

calm sandal
#

I agree

#

Im all for giving Hera bow more viable build options

spark turret
#

hmmmm I'll do more testing

#

I feel bad cus I feel like devs are getting hit hard with a bug fix to do list

calm sandal
#

Its always like that after a huge update im sure

serene nexus
#

I tried using Demeter special on Chiron bow with the 10 stack of slow explodes boon.

main drift
#

how good does the guan yu spear look

serene nexus
#

You trigger it every burst of your special after the first one

stray frigate
#

@main drift u can see it in main menu

spark turret
#

wait really

#

is it good ?

#

thats such a smart idea

north kernel
#

trash without the quick spin upgrade

stable fossil
#

Can Deflected damage crit?

stray frigate
main drift
#

talking about the gameplay

stable fossil
#

if I deflect an attack back at an enemy can the damage it deals crit?

turbid needle
#

I guess

stray frigate
#

@stable fossil everything should crit with pp or mark

spark turret
#

it looks nice in my opinion

stray frigate
#

i had 1000crit from TRAP

#

@spark turret new spear?

spark turret
#

its big and has a cool blood effect

#

yes

stray frigate
#

i do not like it

spark turret
#

I hate the weapon gameplay

#

but the look is cool

stray frigate
#

mostly of it's not even close to greek mythology

turbid needle
#

I honestly saw the Brilliant Riposte + deadly REversal + athena attacks/special with Guan Yu or Chaos Shield doing some ridiculous damage

spark turret
#

yah its not based off of a greek god

turbid needle
#

It's from the Three Kingdoms period

stray frigate
#

but also it can gives little info about timeline

serene nexus
#

Gameplay wise it’s a very different play style. You’ll want to basically treat it as a ranged weapon first and foremost

turbid needle
#

Itplays differently than any other weapon in the game, it will take time to getting used to it

#

Almost everything can one shot you and cost you a death's defiance on higher heat

stray frigate
#

also looks like attack speed doesnt afflect spin attack

turbid needle
#

There's a hammer upgrade for it

spark turret
#

I mean I'll play around with it

#

I also don

#

don't like the change to zag spear

dim ridge
#

Yeah i really liked old zag spear

#

made the exploding specials build super fun

stray frigate
#

@turbid needle i mrean not charge speed but flight speed

turbid needle
#

I tried it, went really fine until 3rd boss on EM, didnt expect to die twice at that fight almost from the same hit

#

Ah, I'm not sure about the projectile speed, I don't think it can be affected though I haven't experimented with it too much

serene nexus
#

How does Zag spear compare to Hades Aspect

calm sandal
#

Its better if you get the rapid strike hammer upgrade

hollow sorrel
#

I still don't understand why this game has instant unavoidable damage. It's just not possible to dodge Demeter's trial of the gods attack in melee range. It instantly damages right after it appears

stray frigate
#

btw idk is it a bug but new spear spin attack can freely go through objects

still atlas
#

what does demeter’s attack look like?

hollow sorrel
#

like the instant poseidon trial of the gods tidal rush

turbid needle
#

I don't think that's bug @stray frigate

hollow sorrel
#

it looks like circles that grow around an enemy

still atlas
#

yikes for melee indeed

dim ridge
#

they disapear after just a minute

#

you just have to back off a second

#

its really not that bad imo

#

easier than Athena or Poseidon for sure

hollow sorrel
#

but you can't avoid them if you're melee

#

that shouldn't be a thing

serene nexus
#

And coffee. When I saw her wrath effect I realized that I never want to get on Demter’s bad side... like ever.

hollow sorrel
#

there should be a telegraph or something

dim ridge
#

again just back off when they show up

#

even in melee you dont have to be RIGHT on them

serene nexus
#

You can also use your cast

dim ridge
#

you should have a moment to dash backwatds

#

backwards**

hollow sorrel
#

should

humble arrow
#

Well

#

I am just messed up by the new nerfs

stray frigate
#

yeah it looks not so cool

#

also i'm kinda dissapointed about Demeter

solid cairn
#

I didn't really use any of the nerfed weapons

heady zephyr
#

It proves we don't know what time the present day is

#

3k was waaaay after the peloponnesian war

hollow sorrel
#

lol before Zag finds out that when he really leaves the underworld, he's in TEH FUTURE

stray frigate
#

@heady zephyr it looks like it's around 0-100

hollow sorrel
#

surprise, it's like that terrible "The Village" movie

solid cairn
#

I feel like this update just needs another patch

pastel oriole
#

artemis cast useless now. Got a Heroic one and it was like 90 dmg 10% crit

#

😐

hollow sorrel
#

The Ares cast at least wasn't completely useless by itself

stray frigate
#

Artemis has good boons for cast

pastel oriole
#

not anymore

#

lul

stray frigate
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but not as good cast yes

turbid needle
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and then you realize that persephone is actually Red from Transistor...

pastel oriole
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Artemis cast used to be really good

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cuz it used to crit alot

stray frigate
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wut

pastel oriole
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I got 2 epic chaos cast boons + rare artemis cast once. i was critting 1k

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before the nerf

turbid needle
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only 1k ?

pastel oriole
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ye. i ddnt get that many chaos boons and no poseidon aspect sadly

kind fiber
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What duo boons does our new god have?

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Or rather, with which gods does she have duo boons with?

turbid needle
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with zeus that's I know

somber wharf
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theres one with her cast and dionysus cast

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with artemis

crisp iris
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wait can you load demeter cast on Hera bow?

unkempt ridge
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zeus, arte, dio, and I dont know the 4th

humble arrow
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Hammer or Chaos boon?

kind fiber
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@crisp iris Yes, but its terrible, beam seems to always point right

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@humble arrow Depends on the build you are going for. Generally hammer boons are more powerful for less risk, chaos boons are more difficult to come across tho

humble arrow
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Just having fun on 2 heat

kind fiber
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Hammer boons are powerful

humble arrow
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sounds good thanks

turbid needle
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alright

humble arrow
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😋

turbid needle
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chain shot + triple arrow lol

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ok thanatos, nice try in elysium... 33-0 though LUL

vagrant briar
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is there a way to see all your upgrades and it tells you what they do ?

kind fiber
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All your boons?

vagrant briar
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this power will replace another one and i dont remember which was what

kind fiber
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Yeah, press tab and you can hover your mouse over them on the left

vagrant briar
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yeah boons

turbid needle
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jesus christ...

vagrant briar
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on controller?

kind fiber
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If you are playing on a controller I don't know how

turbid needle
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9:19 Theseus kill lol

vagrant briar
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well im at the chose one boon cant do anything now

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meh

turbid needle
dim ridge
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does anyone know how to get "The Gift of Song" prophecy completion?

kind fiber
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I think you talk to the harp guy between runs and give the harp a tug, and wait for things to progress

dim ridge
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harp guy?

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orpheus?

kind fiber
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yeah orpheus

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forgot his name

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I progressed it by talking to orpheus once

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Haven't finished it yet tho

dim ridge
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lol okay thats what ive been doing but the harp hasnt made any... not super ugly sounds yet lmfao

kind fiber
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well you can try talkin to his girl

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his girl is supposed to be better lol

dim ridge
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yea ive been chattin up euridice every run since the update so far

kind fiber
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Yeah, sorry I don't got anything better for you

dim ridge
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do we know if the guan yu spear aspect will stack multiple chills on its projectile?

stray frigate
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it should

dim ridge
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hell yeah

potent lichen
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is there a place i can go to know what all the symbols when pressing B means on the top of screen?

humble arrow
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Okay

Dio boon (Have overflowing cup) or Pom of Power or Chaos Boon?

dim ridge
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chaos every time

turbid needle
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yeah chaos' buffs are incredible and his downsides are eh

dim ridge
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unless you think taking the chaos boon will get you killed, chaos is the right answer almost every time

humble arrow
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oki doki

dim ridge
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exceptions are if you have earned a duo or legendary and that god shows up and if you desperately need HP and a fountain is one of your choices

humble arrow
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just torn cause of the dio trinket

slender kettle
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ugh, how do I time the Fishing Rod?

stray frigate
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@slender kettle find right spot

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press E

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and press E again in proper moment

brisk sentinel
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wait for the bob to go underwater/blood

slender kettle
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Right, I got the bit where you can figure out where to fish, I can't work out the timing.

brisk sentinel
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its generally a lot longer, the entire bob will submerge, thats when you should reel it in

stray frigate
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48000 dead bastards

solid cairn
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guys I got an idea for a build

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so

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nemesis sword

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demeter special

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instantly apply slow

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weak on attack

thorny edge
stray frigate
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did Zag always was able to speak with her?

thorny edge
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that was my first build this update, didnt win because ive never tried nemesis before😅

humble arrow
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I love ravenous will from demeter

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Yeah %10 to damage and 20% damage reduction isnt a lot but its fun with her own cast

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b nice with lightning rod too

grizzled talon
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Is it just me, or did poison get way more painful this update

kind fiber
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I think it takes slightly longer to tick but ticks faster after it gets going

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Less punishing if it gets cured fast, more if it doesn't

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I dunno tho

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I could be wrong

twin hare
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the charged special daedalus hammer is really feels like downgrade rather than upgrade for bow

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the range become 0 if tapped

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@_@

burnt rune
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do we know the requirements for dem/art duo? missing that one

pseudo topaz
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seeking arrows works only once for dem cast 😦

whole burrow
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I had something interesting happen to me. I died at Hades but I killed him with Zeus Call at the same time so it registers as me having both losing and winning. My screen glitched for a bit but I even got the victory-screen with the stats after I respawned telling me I won. However, looking at my pacts, it doesn't look like I beat him as I didn't get the Titan's Blood from winning.

burnt rune
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I think support fire only triggers once for anything now?

obsidian abyss
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How tf do I beat em theseus? People were telling me he was Easier than normal but he’s way harder

spark turret
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you can nuke hima lot faster

solid cairn
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is arte special spear worth it

obsidian abyss
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Should I focus Theseus now? I have been focusing mino

lusty gust
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You need to focus the bull

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Memory for names is degrading

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-'

burnt rune
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also yeah, I feel like Theseus is quite easier now

lusty gust
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When Theseus gets to low hp he begins launching AoE attacks through the whole arena

burnt rune
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I also prefer to focus on the minotaur at first

lusty gust
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Minotaur is easy

stray frigate
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ex mino is not so easy

lofty totem
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Yall want a silly build

lusty gust
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But it becomes painful when you need to hide behind a pillar everytime you're far away from Theseus

kind fiber
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@burnt rune Requirement is demo cast, + artemis attack, special, dash, or call

lofty totem
burnt rune
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ah thanks

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demo cast huh >.>

obsidian abyss
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How do I dodge upgraded mino charge? He has more turning acceleration so I can’t run him into stuff

kind fiber
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@burnt rune Reward is +10% cast damage and a beam that tracks enemies quickly

lofty totem
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Poodle just keep going around a pillar

kind fiber
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run him into stuff

lusty gust
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Guan Yu aspect can heal from vases...

kind fiber
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Still the same solution

lusty gust
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That's broken

lofty totem
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Luks it doesnt even matter you wouldnt need it

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it heals so much your either dead or full health at all times

burnt rune
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Zeus/Dem duo feels pretty strong, specially with a poseidon sword/zeus cast focused build

lofty totem
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no in between

burnt rune
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it heals so much your either dead or full health at all times
also my experience lol

lofty totem
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Also in the hades fight

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IT HEALS 5

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WHY

lusty gust
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It creates a challenge either way

obsidian abyss
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Also, how do I fish lol. I have the rod

lofty totem
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Like youd have to actively try to kill yourself

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to lose on hades

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with that spear

kind fiber
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Yeah, seemed that way to me, I couldn't get a % cast speed upgrade from hermes and I lost my heroic dem cast, I have no idea how

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The build I was running could have been so much stronger if it had those two pieces @burnt rune

lofty totem
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I hope the 4th aspects for the other weapons are as unique as the spear

turbid needle
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^

lusty gust
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They will

burnt rune
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I want try and run it again with another status on the side, like Doom or Hangover, for maximum lazy DoT

lofty totem
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Its a completely different playstyle to ALL existing weapons and aspects

stray frigate
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i do not like new spear aspect(

lofty totem
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which is so nice

lusty gust
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No one ever expected Guan Yu

turbid needle
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could do with lower penalty value

lofty totem
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who even was Guan Yu in myth

turbid needle
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but otherwise, it's very nice

lofty totem
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Nah the spears broken

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genuinely

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needs a nerf

burnt rune
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Guan Yu was a real person

stray frigate
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@lofty totem it Chinese general

lusty gust
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Guan Yu was a legendary general in China

lofty totem
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Did he have anything to do at all with greek anything though?

lusty gust
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He was known as the God of War

stray frigate
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he is kinda legend

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some chinese steel worship him

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like a god

burnt rune
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I mean, China had contact with Rome, you can extrapolate a bit

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But I liked Achille's explanation about the fates and the different aspects of the spear

stray frigate
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i do not like it anyway

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why china?

lusty gust
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Though I wonder how Varatha got into Guan Yu's hands

lofty totem
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Like thematically it makes no sense

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genuinely

stray frigate
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why did they come away from greek mythology

lofty totem
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its a fun weapon dont get me wrong

stray frigate
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i do not speak about gameplay

burnt rune
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But it does, if the explanation is that the weapons shapeshift and go between legendary warriors

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There's no reason for Hades' old spear be the same spear Achilles used either

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it's just fun

lusty gust
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Yeah, Greece wasn't the only place in the world after all

lofty totem
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I mean yea but

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this is a story

quick igloo
lofty totem
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about greek mythology

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not any other type of pilosophy

quick igloo
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So the beam is pretty good but a little funky to cast with hera bow

stray frigate
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so other aspect can be anything

mighty ermine
stray frigate
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literally

quick igloo
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without the crystal clarity the build is pretty weak

lusty gust
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Guan Yu is revered as a god but he's not a god though

burnt rune
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it is explained in the confines of greek myth tho; the fates wanted the spear to reach guan yu, all that jazz

lusty gust
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The devs are just acknowledging him as a legendary warrior

lofty totem
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What is crystal clarity a duo between?

quick igloo
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Oh god

burnt rune
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it implies that the greek deities have influence over everything, not only greece, it's cool

quick igloo
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wait till you get the chain shot from the new daedle hammer

burnt rune
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chain shot on hera
hm, how does that work

lusty gust
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I love daedle

mighty ermine
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it's right there

burnt rune
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cast activates on the last target?

mighty ermine
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already got it haha

quick igloo
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yes

stray frigate
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@burnt rune yes lets have new rail aspect is Kalashnikkov

lusty gust
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My favorite upgrade, daedle

stray frigate
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cus...reasons

quick igloo
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in my crystal run I had it and it was odd having the crystals pop up on the last thing hit

burnt rune
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I mean, they already have a gun that shots missiles

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but that's ok

lusty gust
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Aspect of AK-47

burnt rune
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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it's their story

stray frigate
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failbag sounds stupid

lusty gust
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If the game could be modded I swear people would do this