aegis is crazy in general tbh
#h1-builds-and-combat
lethal plank
lethal plank
anything you do is one massive invincibility frame
and the mobility you have pops me a massive one in my pants
i just love bull rush ok
royal sonnet
I was struggling with the melee weapons including aegis outside of special spam but then i realized
you just need to dash around like a squirrel on crack cocaine and go HAM
and melee is easy as pie
lethal plank
yeah melee gets easy once you learn how to time your dodges
just i prefer spear and shield rather than sword
lethal plank
achilles aspect grants me that mobility that i need to move around quick to spam attack
royal sonnet
there is no advantage to it, given that shield and spear both have ranged options as well
it should be like way more strong in melee or something
lethal plank
it could definitely be a brute force weapon
or have a wider special
to close the gap for the low mobility
royal sonnet
eheheh
Ive never used the spear attack for anything
I go zeus on spear 98% of the time, every time
granite vine
spear just has sword special built in to its attack charge
gray lintel
festive fog on this playthrough too I AM THE THUNDER GOD
granite vine
or thrusts
turbid needle
The thing I hate about Cast builds is that I have to go pick up my Bloodstones
lethal plank
im so used to run achilles aspect i just speedy gonzalez my way thru the enemies and hit them then run asap
turbid needle
Like sure I can do 130 damage in an AOE with Cast 4 times, or I can just do a spear throwing build and do the same damage from a mile away and never have to pick up anything
lethal plank
the bloodstone pickups are more of an annoyance than an actual defect
at least to me
royal sonnet
with spear i love zeus the lightning on special can backstab too
lethal plank
i tend to move a lot that's probably why i benefit more from cast
royal sonnet
I switch to doom if I get the chainlightning spear special tho
gray lintel
whoop beat elysium boss without deat hdefied
royal sonnet
i cant dooooo it yet
but now i can beat both of them solo as mini bosses without getting hit
both of them together cant be far behind
royal sonnet
wait he changes?
lethal plank
his second phase changes
lethal plank
shield is easy to bypass with festive fog
woeful sage
Wait for the throw, and then go ham onhis butt
lethal plank
festive fog shreds elysium
gray lintel
i need the lightning strikes twice and I will be even more OP
attacks strike twice, and attacks do knockback too 
yasss +35% chance for lightning to strike twice
my attacks, special, dashes, and cast now all cast lightning
lethal plank
zeus tryna be bro
gray lintel
oh jesus with aegis double attacks it's just rapid fire lightning
i don't even need shield trhow anymore, I just mow through enemies by spamming attack
lethal plank
wait for the duo and then you got a run
gray lintel
which duo 
i already have lightning storm and knockback effects cast lightning that's why I have a lightning bolt on my attack
cause I have posidon attack
lethal plank
BURH
gray lintel
with the lightning strikes chance and attacks hit twice of aegis every attack with aegis has 2.7 lightning bolts hit
and the lightning applies jolted too
literally every button press I do launches a lightning bolt
(except call I guess because I don't have one yet but meh()
crimson geyser
@royal pilot when you equip the shield in the courtyard, one of the prompts in the upper left should say "hold [attack] to bull rush"
royal pilot
@crimson geyser Yes, but if you release at the right time it deals 4x damage
I didn't realise until like my 5th shield run, when I did it by accident
gray lintel
that's only with an upgrade i think
tawdry sail
Need help with Poseidon boons - Are they of any benefit at all? Aside from boss encounter, even normal enemies are not always pushed
gray lintel
enemies with armor take much less knockback
(posideon stuff still has high base damage so)
tawdry sail
Tried a base railgun+ Poseidon boon build, barely made it to final boss
That makes it pretty terrible compared to others. I even had his legendary: Second knockback, and I was like "Are you kidding me?!"
gray lintel
note against normal enemies it's basically by far the best one because of wall damage lol
and with zeus's duo boon those knockbacks also deal damage
tawdry sail
Also discovered spear's dash attack. That was cool. Helped clear the Elysium normal encounter with ease
gray lintel
even elite enemies take knockback, and because of how strong posidon's knockback is they can still be wall slammed and cornerd
tawdry sail
@gray lintel Yeah, I did have wall slam damages but the issue was Poseidon alone is not enough for a build.
turbid needle
i hate the big gorgon and stompy foot room
gray lintel
poseidon there's several paths. Either you get zeus and try to get the duo charm for lightning
tawdry sail
Disagree (mostly), had a mostly Ares focused build with my spear run. Took everything out (except of course last boss) with ease
Other God's boons were not as well upgraded
gray lintel
or if you get Rupture, you combine it with any other easy status effect for that delicious like +50% more damage from double effects
turbid needle
poseidon-dionysus duo makes all boons you pick up from them on epic or greater
gray lintel
ares is an exception I think
tawdry sail
@gray lintel Oh yeah, I did have rupture. That was my one relief in Tartarus and Asphodel
gray lintel
yeah and poseidon+aphrodite has +1 level per pom
rupture is a status effect
you (probably) want to apply two status effects of any kind at all times
tawdry sail
Agreed about Ares. I didn't get Poseidon+Aphrodite duo in my run. Did get weak on special and rupture (+knockback on main) and used the two as a combo as much as possible
tawdry sail
Doom's OP I believe
gray lintel
zeus can be self-synergizing too but not as well as doom I guess
tawdry sail
I prefer Ares or Artemis when I want an easy run now
gray lintel
although even ares likes Athena, deflection dash is just good especially because of making people exposed on dash
and Athena + Ares has a thing where deflecting attacks instantly trigger doom \o/
tawdry sail
Yes, getting Athena's deflect is a huge boost for my runs. That's pure gold
gray lintel
Aphrodite + Ares is also amusingly one of the best combos, doom just hits enemies constantly while they're weakened. All's fair in love and war I guess?
tawdry sail
Lovers' effect?
hearty fog
👀
gray lintel
i forghot what it is, it's a duo effect that makes doom refresh itself
with 8 second weakness from aphrodite you just apply the two effects
then omae wa mou shindeiru
(also I think aphrodite has like the best cast effect)
aphrodite used to be my least favorite god until I realized that all of her stuff has really good damage boosts even ignoring applying weakness. and weak is really strong
tawdry sail
Yeah. She's not a primary preference but more of a support
gray lintel
ehhhh i still love getting her on attack because again the basic damage boost is sweet
tawdry sail
At least for someone like me who rushes into things blindly
gray lintel
also her cast deals nutso damage
tawdry sail
I prefer Doom
tawdry sail
I have also realized I hate multishot hammer upgrades. The sacrifice of range is often not worth it
tawdry sail
@gray lintel Exception when Doom is better on attack: Using spear with hammer upgrade that allows you to jab continuously (taking away spear spin attack)
gray lintel
i suppose it's easier to apply on spear, spear's kind of a thin line
tawdry sail
@gray lintel Yeah, on arrow or rail gun, it's often not worth it
gray lintel
on arrow it is 100% worth it if you have proc effects like zeus or dio
tawdry sail
Hmm, worth exploring in my next runs
gray lintel
zeus + dual shot = you dash attack around and have amazing AOE, which completely undoes the weakness of bow
tawdry sail
Will try. Thanks
gray lintel
just remember to always be dashing
get aquainted with bow and dash attack power shot timings, it's easier than normal powershot IMO
(and it makes it fire faster)
gray lintel
lol Aphrodite arrows are heart shaped
frosty pier
Why wouldn't they?
heady zephyr
power shot builds are pretty tricky to pull off when the game gets really busy i find. which it does pretty quick
gray lintel
hooooo 40% more movespeed is great
also yeah but I find that dash powershots are way easier to do even when it gets busy
woeful creek
Hey, I have a question, I gave meg a bunch of nectars, and i got to that arrow thingy in her heart meter, but I can't find her anymore o: I haven't seen her in the house of hades for like 10 runs, how can I find her? o:
heady zephyr
i got chain lightning on attack with coronacht last build and i really regret going for enhanced power shot instead of auto fire
limpid tapir
Are there any differences between normal bow shots and dash bow attacks?
gray lintel
+100% movement speed on dodge and +40% movement speed
i am the fastest man alive
lmao i can outrun the minotaur's charge
gray plover
Dash bow shots charge faster and do less damage @limpid tapir
The faster charge doesn't make up for the damage drop (at least that's how it feels) so the DPS is lower unless you're building for it.
I haven't tested it though. Just got that vibe from hitting skelly
split fiber
I just got:
Blade Rift, Increase Range, Blade x2, Fully Loaded (x3, 7 casts in total), Blade Pull, Longer Blade
but ran out of res on the last boss and died ;-;
gray plover
Rip
gray plover
Yeah I prefer doing that
limpid tapir
Ohhh, faster charge! That's why it felt inconsistent.
Thanks for the explanation o7
gray plover
You're welcome!
split fiber
gray plover
It's rough getting close with a good build and making a mistake
That's why I run spearpoint, so I can make 100s of mistakes with no ramifications
gray lintel
ammo automatically returns to me lets go
sturdy cloak
what should I be spending the big bottles of Ambrosia on?
turbid needle
keep fourteen
gray lintel
dang do you really need that many D:
turbid needle
to max the thing you enjoy most when you get a choice
gray lintel
wat
sturdy cloak
I'm struggling to keep track of the keepsakes and people
turbid needle
||companion upgrades are 1/2/3/4 ambrosia||
hearty fog
I have.. 17 ambrosia
sturdy cloak
how do I mark a spoiler?
turbid needle
|| on either side
gray lintel
huh with the spear flurry attack you can hold down the mouse button then dash around
and you apparently get multiple dash attacks a dash
sturdy cloak
How do I get the ||companion|| upgrades?
turbid needle
Actually, for this, we don't need to mark spoilers in this room.
sturdy cloak
oh okay
turbid needle
Do you have any of them yet?
sturdy cloak
I'm not sure what they are - is there a more up to date wiki?
I've got stacks of keepsakes
sturdy cloak
oh
turbid needle
with 4 specific characters atm
sturdy cloak
who should I be working on then?
unkempt pagoda
you get the companions from unlocking the locked hearts then gifting ambrosia, you can upgrade them with ambrosia
sturdy cloak
I've been using ambrosia for diamonds right now >>
turbid needle
meg/than/sisyphus/skelly
unkempt pagoda
^
sturdy cloak
and I can really only do 1 or 2 playthroughs before my hands hurt too much
unkempt pagoda
they all have specific conditions you need to do to unlock their events that let you use ambrosia on them
turbid needle
and skelly's and sisyphus's conditions are pricy
gray lintel
5 dashes in a row from hermes, attack flurry, and longer spear range 
this is with a bunch of artemis crit things too and like +80% attack damage from chaos. i am a blender
turbid needle
The bow has a pretty high skill floor. And I definitely need to get Flurry Jab again, it's starting to sound preeetty sweet.
I bet Hades Aspect with Deadly Strike is disgusting.
gray lintel
tbf i have like literally all of the critical damage perks from Athena, Artemis, and Aphrodite(including the duo perks) along with both the long range spear talent AND flurry jab, deflect dash + expose, and like a +80% attack damage chaos boon
i have like a 100% critical chance against people with like +300% critical damage 
welp that was the fastest final boss kill i have ever had
royal sonnet
Spear special lovers what do we take on spear attack
turbid needle
"Aw, I didn't get to enjoy the song."
Something that will apply a Status Curse and keep it there.
gray lintel
NOPE
zagreus aspect
which was entirely wasted on that since I never used special yes :v
sturdy cloak
spear+doom is amazing
can't believe I got through the whole game without unlocking weapons first
woeful sage
My God! I just did my first Hera Bow run with Aphrodite's +90% Attack Damage, Artemis's Crit Calls, and Twin shot! I've never done so much damage in my life!! I was almost 3-shotting the lesser Hydra Heads!
gray lintel
hestia aspect is pretty fun leveled up
elder apex
bro Arthemises Support Fire + Adamant Rail is so good
turbid needle
You got Eris Aspect yet?
elder apex
no
elder apex
well what does it do
turbid needle
Increases all damage you deal for 8 seconds.
elder apex
wow that is good
gray lintel
hestia aspect makes reloading fun
because after reloading you've got like up to a 150 base damage attack
limpid tapir
^^^
150 up to 225 with Boiling Blood
300 with Boiling Blood backstab
It's actually obscene.
I had a run where with Chaos boons and a good Artemis crit, I was hitting Hades in the face for 800+
split fiber
This game just does not want to give me Ares/Artemis right now....
gray plover
shoulda screenshot that D:
limpid tapir
right?
awww my god, I'm going through #hades-feedback and doing the upvote/downvote schtick, and saw this:
LumselYesterday at 4:45 AM
I feel far too safe after learning the Final Boss' attack patterns. Please add a fourth level to Extreme Measures, so I can come back to getting absolutely clobbered again, like the good old days
'i feel far too safe' and 'come back to getting absolutely clobbered again'. I died of laughter, because this is hilarious and true.
10/10 feedback. I'd give ten upvotes if I could. Best suggestion I've seen all day.
turbid needle
I definitely hear some Doom influence when listening to some of Hades's songs.
limpid tapir
😮 which ones?
In the meantime I'm listening to this while I'm fighting Hades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElTn4wpcxNo
turbid needle
The King and the Bull, and God of the Dead.
limpid tapir
Hmmm. I'll have to go listen to those again!
gray lintel
posidon's cast knocks people away thing, a boon that makes enemies drop stuff sooner, double knockback effects, ruptrue on knockback, lightning bolt on knockback, and lightning bolts hit twice
oh and +3 casts from artemis
and hermes 'ammo automatically returns'
everything is explody and it's hard to see
limpid tapir
When in doubt, make the room explode.
gray lintel
this is on top of the triple rocket launchers
limpid tapir
You know, the worst habit I have so far in this game is entirely forgetting I have companion trinkets.
I end every run at 5 uses. You can't use them vs Hades or, in the case of those that can show up in an encounter, you can't use it when they're already there.
10/10 XD
gray lintel
stuff explodes in a watery blast when they hit a thing too
so more explosions
and tons of lightning bolts when i dash
also support fire so there are arrows EVERYWHERE
limpid tapir
Are there enough animations going off at the same time yet? 😉
turbid needle
So, who didn't know that Erebus scales as you climb biomes?
Because I just got three Super Elite Strongbows and three Soul Catchers.
gray lintel
you can apparently interrupt the sword's three attack combo with a dash and do the thrust instead of a dash attack at the end
the timing on it is weird tho
mild crag
I think it's sorta better to do two hits then special
gray lintel
not if you have the hammer ability to do +200% damage and +40% crit chance on the last attack 
obsidian granite
do the effects of the pierced butterfly continue after unequipping it halfway through a run?
gray lintel
unsure b ut I'm not sure I'd recommend it as damage is apparently additive
obsidian granite
thx
frosty pier
Unequipping the Butter cancels the damage buff.
turbid needle
alternate timeline where thanatos gives you a stick of butter
frosty pier
where butterflies are actually from butter.
turbid needle
Yeah, he can get stuck in that pretty easily.
carmine raven
using Buldy to stuck him in center forever
turbid needle
I once saw him get stuck on some vases.
gray lintel
i feel like posidon knockback scales on damage
because my thrust knockbacks yeet someone across literally an entire asphodel map
kinda annoying
you can tie with thanos 😮
turbid needle
does it count as a loss?
turbid needle
neat
limpid tapir
@frosty pier what, you mean like this? https://www.deviantart.com/cryptid-creations/art/Daily-Paint-1137-Butter-Fly-581824601
A... butter-fly?
Whoa.
Chiron aspect on bow looks weird if you special in the opposite direction of your target.
Super satisfying to see 7 arrows home in on target. Thinking I might try to go Zeus on it, maybe Ares?
Treat it like Chaos shield; any boon that adds flat damage would be welcome imo
unborn trellis
dionysus is good too
instant full stack of poison
gray plover
I don't think it's that good, dunno what I'm missing really 👀
chiron, I mean.
dio on the special is nice on all the bows
karmic coyote
Chiron is great, even better than Hera and Hera is pretty great already
gray lintel
something I wanna try at some point: gun with infinite ammo, deflect immediately activates doom effects, doom refreshes on weakened targets
get doom on special, deflect on attacks, weaken on dash
downside: ohgodrng
upside: full auto doom
huh ares blade dash deals surprisingly high damage at 35 base
karmic ginkgo
Hey so like
Since when did hades lazer in the second phade do so kuch damage?
Like
I went in with 4 continues and 305 hp
turbid needle
yeah, it slaps
karmic ginkgo
And it hust did like 100 damage in 3 seconds
turbid needle
like 18 a pop or sth
karmic ginkgo
20
Im really salty rn cause i thought i got behind some cover but it went right through it and killed me
turbid needle
you more or less have to use the broken spearpoint if you don't want to hide behind the left wall or hug him
right yeah don't use that one, it doesn't interact well with the laser for some reason
karmic ginkgo
Its really annoying
Im salty now :<
Cauze i was gonna beat him!
I had cleanes up the other bosses so well
Also he spawns like
3 times as many skulls as i remember
granite vine
one other way is to run far enough away that you can fit in the gap between lasers
karmic ginkgo
Also whats the point of ambrosia?
granite vine
it's like nectar+
karmic ginkgo
But dont u only gotta give 1 nectar to get the items
granite vine
you get other things if you feed them more nectar
eventually you need ambrosia for further improvements
turbid needle
you get the option to give them ambrosia after a little requirement
which unlocks another thing in the keepsake shelf (at the bottom)
karmic ginkgo
Gah i see
sturdy cloak
I've got all the weapons plus titan blood, why can't I unlock aspects?
turbid needle
you have to do one more run
sturdy cloak
and win?
turbid needle
nah, just play through a run, you'll get access to the other aspects after that
sturdy cloak
thanks
leaden orchid
how does one form a bond with Megaera?
granite vine
fight and talk to her a bunch! then feed her nectars and ambrosias.
halcyon cedar
how to meet the last person to give nectar? and get his stuff
stray frigate
@turbid needle i guess it's Tomatos
turbid needle
nah, you meet him before orpheus which would be my guess
stray frigate
Hello mate, didnt see you yesterday
turbid needle
yeah, didn't spend much time here yesterday
did you manage to rest a bit? is your sleep schedule still a complete mess?
turbid needle
fair enough, it is addicting
halcyon cedar
thanatos *
stray frigate
Tomatos
did you miss his trinket?
i cant say i'm addicted
i usually get excited very fast
but same i losing interes
that usually happens with lots of games
when i was younger
i could find something in lot of ingame stuff
and now i have so low patience
getting too old i guess
i hopeHades will be good enough to fullfill my hunger)
tropic iron
I just bought a bunch of historical games recently
stray frigate
i rarely buy games
i prefer torrents and if game good enough - i buy to give people money they deserve
blazing mulch
Heh my friend had HADES since a year when I bought it and I always took pendrive to give him new patch xd. Now was egs promo and he saved with a ticket and got own copy of hades for 6$ :)
gray plover
Initially I planned to do 16/32 heat but I don't think I'm good enough or have the time to grind it out.
I'll try to do everything else and then just wait for the update
gilded eagle
the trick to 16 or 32, is to farm out specific combos
doom and deflect is the easiest imo
barren nimbus
what exactly do the hermes your X is faster boons affect, the animation speed or the attack itself?
solid cairn
Animation speed I think
gray plover
I got a little unlucky with some boons but I did okay in my 16 run (until I died).
I'm not a fan of doom
and I don't really try for deflect but if I can get dash... 
solid cairn
Doom is just an amazing idea for a status effect but not being stackable is ugh
gray plover
Being stackable seems insane
solid cairn
I know
gray plover
I think it should be hit -> apply doom; hit -> consume doom; (doom is now on X second delay)
barren nimbus
Ares/Athena duo is really nice for doom though
gray plover
and it'd be infinitely better
stray frigate
@solid cairn not only animation
solid cairn
Projectile speed and stuff?
native ether
Although one can earn more titan blood from heat or expansive use of the shop, it's a frustrating mistake for a newish player.```
@tranquil violet you can earn more Titan Blood from the furies, but it requires defeating the final boss and unlocking the Pact of Punishment.
(So yeah, agreed with the feedback, just fyi)You should be able to respec Titan blood once per save I agree
stray frigate
and after i leave - blood come back and upgrade disappear
ah yes past time
thx
i'm not sure
but it happened after i surrender the run
gray plover
if you give up you get it back, I believe. I heard about people doing that to test aspects
stray frigate
so it happened
gray plover
I never tried, I just put a point into everything when I could. Maxing out isn't that important
gray plover
broker's been offering me blood for 15 keys
crisp matrix
guess that's true
I kinda abused bow + tipsy shot and got my first clear in 4 runs
don't think I'm even at 20 runs yet
stray frigate
@crisp matrix dont you still have bowl?
lethal plank
after doing some more serious runs with spear and sword i expanded my brain to jimmy neutron size and discovered the reason behind why i suck so much
i dash attack way too often
lethal plank
i only panic spam when im at low health worringly enough
turbid needle
Let's see that screencap.
Gotta take a photo with steam
Cant post pics here
You can take a screenshot in-game with F11.
solid cairn
Get a link to the image and put that in
turbid needle
Is there another chat you're allowed to post pics
It's the fan-works page, I don't think anyone wants that cluttered up like that, though.
loud fjord
why is hades so hard ;w;
turbid needle
He's the God of the Dead. Wouldn't be right if the final boss weren't one of the toughest in the game.
I got so lucky. If I didn't run into patrolucs I would've lost
loud fjord
no I mean game in general!
lethal plank
second phase wrecks me hard
the blast waves are what get me
cause i just dash into them like a retrad
turbid needle
This is a game designed so that you die over and over. It's woven into the narrative, which kinda-sorta justifies the difficulty.
Dude, come on.
Don't talk like that.
lethal plank
my brain is routed to dash at anything i see because of sundered
so basically i emtpy both of my dashes for a basic attack
loud fjord
do you guys play with keyboard or controller?
lethal plank
controller
loud fjord
controller is way easier I think
loud fjord
the keyboard movement is kinda screwing me over
lethal plank
slight more milliseconds in delay but you have all of your mobility and offensive gauges at hand
final fox
I find controller much easier. The button layout is easier to use, IMO.
ornate lodge
i think that with keyboard i have better control of my movement
final fox
and the auto-aim is pretty heavy.
lethal plank
so controller isn't a tradeoff at all for me its straight up an upgrade
turbid needle
You should use whatever you find most comfortable/most efficient.
Absolutely try both, but don't let anyone tell you what to use.
I tried controller and it wasn't for me. I'm doing just fine on MKB.
lethal plank
i use custom bindings anyway I'm a spawn of satan
turbid needle
I rebound Special, Cast, and Reload so that my fingers never leave WASD in the middle of combat. 🤷
loud fjord
@turbid needle on what buttons do you have what?
lethal plank
i have the attack button set to reload and R1 as attack
so that i can dash attack mayhem
turbid needle
Special on M2, Cast on Shift, Reload on M4 (Part II).
crisp matrix
I tried KB+M for 5 seconds before switching to controller
game is made for controller i'd say
lethal plank
it feels more like a convenience
crisp matrix
but yea personal preference in the end
lethal plank
rather than a requirement
sundered heavily relies on controller
mainly because of the engine i think
turbid needle
I never learned to use the controler, so mouse and keybord are what I do. I just swaped special with cast and it is comfortable to me
orchid sonnet
I played like 100 runs with M+KB thinking it'd be better. Then I tried controller for the hell of it and got better immediately. Still it's a preference. Different things will work for different people.
crimson geyser
i love controller for this game, but i also kinda specifically want to avoid KBM these days when it feels reasonable to do so cuz i get enough repetitive KBM use strain in the rest of my life lol
orchid sonnet
Oh yeah. I have some light form of cubital tunnel in my left arm. Stretching helps but it's not really severe thankfully.
crimson geyser
huh...... i have weird left arm pain too, i wonder if it's that thing
orchid sonnet
It's not pain for me. Just numbness. Cubital tunnel means a nerve in your elbow is in a funky place and your arm on the side of your pinky can be numb. For me I only really feel it in certain positions, like using a keyboard.
granite vine
hand pain treatments are gonna be a booming industry in the next 30 years
orchid sonnet
Yep.
crimson geyser
yeahhh..... lol
that's why i'm still holding out for the hold-dash-to-dash-consecutively optional feature 😎
oak owl
the short burst railgun upgrade seems a bit op
got it with extra crit chance on attacks and crits deal more dmg
beat hades in less then a minute
novel nova
Spear is such a carry weapon @u@
granite vine
just had a super fun run, chucking accelerated 631 damage knockback bombs
kind marten
I've played about 130 hours with keyboard now. It's absolutely fine to me as I'm used to playing KBM. When I lose my streak, I might try controller for fun, just to see what it's like seeing as it comes highly recommended apparently.
gloomy scroll
I don't have the same amount of hours, but I'm also a KBM player and I often wonder what the allure of controller is
crimson geyser
i wholly recommend giving it a try if it's within your means
it feels v nice in this game, imo
i haven't actually given KBM a legit try, tho, tbh
orchid sonnet
I wish epic game store, or hades itself, kept track of hours. I bought it on Steam just to keep better track and to launch it while offline.
loud fjord
EGS tracks hours
orchid sonnet
Huh.
crimson geyser
all i know is i'm 79 runs deep, all with controller 😄
orchid sonnet
Where does it say?
loud fjord
nope
came with the new view update
but has been there for a couple of months already rho
orchid sonnet
Says 4 days. I guess I can't get more direct than that can I?
orchid sonnet
So by some estimates I'm about 117 hours in.... That's honestly so much more than I thought
loud fjord
damn
orchid sonnet
Great game though.
loud fjord
youre a pro already?
orchid sonnet
Highest heat I've done is 6 with bow but can definitely handle more.
I'm really going one by one because of bounties.
loud fjord
ahh
orchid sonnet
But I did get this game launch day, so that time is pretty well spread out throughout a year.
loud fjord
I got this game today, accidentally refunded it so when I get my money back I hope soon I will buy again
kind marten
I also bought it a year ago when it first hit Early Access. I'm also at about 6 or so heat with most weapons. I look forward to upping it to see what I can get away with. As it is now, all my runs turn out pretty dang easy when I get to Styx. It really helps to have a build in mind when you start the run, I guess.
deft light
Is there anyone else who hates the elysium shield guys and stupid shieldking Theseus, they just frustrate me
orchid sonnet
Theseus is fine imo. The shield guys are too much in large groups.
kind marten
I'm very bad against Theseus. He's annoying, and I get hit by quite a lot of his attacks.
obtuse patio
Pick more poison, doom and/or armour damage boons
deft light
I just don't have the patience to deal with their stupid shields lol
crimson geyser
tbh the shield guys usually don't actually hurt me that bad, but they do rather often feel frustrating to fight
quaint lodge
can someone explain the hermes keepsake to me? does it stack temporarily for this run and how quickly is "quickly clear an encounter"?
crimson geyser
it varies depending on the room, but there will be a countdown timer below the keepsake in the lower left
quaint lodge
also can i see the stacks anywhere?
unkempt pagoda
you have to clear the encounter quickly, the timer is under where the keepsake is on the left side
crimson geyser
and you can look at the effect of your keepsake just like you can check the rest of your boons during teh run
unkempt pagoda
you can look at the stacks in the boon menu
quaint lodge
thanks you both ❤️ will try it next run, sounds pretty good
crimson geyser
yeah and if you unequip that keepsake during teh run you'll lose that bonus for the remainder of teh run
that's another fairly common question i'd say, hopefully helpful
quaint lodge
makes sense, would probably question that soon, so thanks once more 😄
crimson geyser
sure you're welcome 😊
bronze oar
The gun is so OP
onyx lintel
Is there a way to see the Chamber number?
pastel jolt
open your boon menu and look in the top right
crimson geyser
wow
gray plover
idk if I will get shield/rail under 20 minutes though. At least not this patch
got spear/bow on 18ish
native ether
The best way to do runs under 20 is to aggressively take Chaos boons
You can skip so many rooms and reduce the time you spend in each biome.
If you can clear fast too, Lambent Plume is super helpful.
gray plover
I don't think plume is better than spearpoint
native ether
Spearpoint is better for sure but if you wanna go fast, Plume can get you around 30% Speed and Dodge chance by Styx if you fast clear every room prior to it.
Which at least up to Hydra, is very doable, which will get you around 20% from Plume
(Plume could still use a buff for it's numbers tbh)
gray plover
spearpoint could use a nerf too
I think plume should be more rewarding since you have to make an effort for it
native ether
spearpoint has been nerfed repeatedly. Don't think it needs anymore nerfing (its at 1.5 seconds now) but multiple other defensive keepsakes imo need buffs
charred solar
The problem with buffing Plume is that dodge as a mechanic is one that gets better the more of it you have, and giving the player too much means you can just stand there and facetank a boss with no fear
gray plover
instead of giving a flat % for beating it within the time... maybe if it had like 2% for superfast, 1.5% for fast and 1% for just in time, then 0 if you miss it - it could be better. It's essentially buffed but you have to work for it
novel nova
Distant memory is good on spear, combine with Poseidon or athena gives great range and damage
limpid tapir
....
Hestia for 150 damage base. Pauper's Strike for +50% damage to Attack. Hunter Dash for +100% damage on dash attack. Divine Strike for +80%. Extreme Hydra got slapped for 674 damage shots.
novel nova
good thing I used blood for the Hestia blaster then
limpid tapir
Three shots would immediately send it to the next phase. Three shots also killed each sub-head XD
Hestia is kinda ridiculous.
I strongly recommend Hera and Hestia for bow and gun, since both encourage a kiting playstyle
I've gone entire fights with Hades without taking more than ~100 damage due to those two weapons, you're so safe.
novel nova
So far my choices have been achilles spear, zeus shield and hestia gun
limpid tapir
Hades spear, Poseidon sword, Hestia gun, Hera bow, Chaos shield.
limpid tapir
Hades spear benefits greatly from any hammer upgrade to its spin and Arty attack since it shells out so many attacks at a time, Poseidon sword is +50% Cast damage, Hestia gun has ridicc base damage, Hera bow's action economy compacts all of your Cast damage into one animation, and Chaos shield with Doom is great.
Noice 😛
This 700 damage run is shaping up to be fantastic.
Hydra usually costs me a defiance since every step leaves you basically in lava.
novel nova
Also throwing the artemis bun that sends seeking arrows every time you do damage to my shield combination and you just have a boss melter
novel nova
Boon*
limpid tapir
Supporting Fire is A+
novel nova
Like getting the spear upgrade to let you hold down house one in repeatedly statics
limpid tapir
Flurry spear and sword.
novel nova
Stab things%
limpid tapir
Infinity Chamber gun, flurry bow, shield doesn't get one
novel nova
I don't know if your sword I prefer the ax chop
limpid tapir
I prefer world splitter yeah
limpid tapir
Double Edge and World Splitter are my go-to choices
novel nova
It's just so useful for laughing at furies
limpid tapir
I never use shield attacks anymore.
Just bull rush into shield throw since it's on Chaos
novel nova
I use Zeus so I tend to slam things into the AOE of the shield
And if I have the Poseidon bonus on the shield throw to keep hammering things into a wall
limpid tapir
Too bad Poseidon doesn't work on bosses
novel nova
If only there was an Ares boon that turns your special into a blade dervish
Just throw out the beyblade
I like how the goddess of the hearth which is basically the goddess of the home is represented with the gun. Because what better way to defend the home then pulling out a gods damned gun
oblique karma
if you have a cast like fog, how does the damage buff from the "cast stuck in enemies " apply?
limpid tapir
It doesn't.
You no longer benefit from that effect.
However, Festive Fog and Ares Cast have such high base damage that that's how they're balanced
oblique karma
ahh, okay, makes sense
limpid tapir
So if you're running a build that relies on Cast damage anyway like Hera bow, it's just a straight upgrade
But if you're running a style where you tag them for boiling blood and attack, yeah, not so much
My current Hestia build literally relies on the default Cast (I didn't get a single Cast boon this entire run, I'm already at Styx) and 670 damage attacks
gray lintel
hades i've gone without taking more than 100 damage by super extreme DPS lol
crits are insane
kind marten
My only gripe with using Dio or Ares cast with Hera is that part of Hera's bonus is to decrease "stuck" time, which is rendered null and void with those casts. But the insane damage probably outweighs that bit. My only Hera runs have been with Aphro cast, 'cus I figured that's the strongest, most high-damage cast, probably, but it might be bugged with Hera. I kept loading more casts, and it kept only shooting 1 or 2, but the UI said I'd spent the others. Then I could still load the "phantom" casts that hadn't shot.
All crit builds are nuts 🙂
gray lintel
fast attack spear wtih 5 dashes, crits, athena/artemis duo for more crit chance, artemis/aphrodite duo for more crit damage on weakened targets, I think like a +80% attack damage chaos boon
did like 700 damage on a single spear attack and would attack like 5 times a second. fun fact, if your attack speed is high enough you can dash attack multiple times without stopping
so i would just yeet myself around the battlefield while doing insane DPS
kind marten
Like, more than 1 dash attack from a single dash?
gray lintel
yup!
and you can dash attack while chaining dashes too to always stay on the move
dash attacks are weird TBH. You can also dash attack before you dash, although there's a very short timer on it. IMO that's more just there to make it easier to dash attack by attacking and dashing at the same time, but attacks seem to have a very short windup period and you can turn an attack into a dash attack in that time :x
i've only noticed multiple dash attacks in a single dash with the spear tho
it would be nice to have a way to test perks and stuff and interactions like that
stuck bough
which boons work well for chiron bow?
crimson geyser
poison special, probably
i don't have much experience with that aspect actually so maybe i should let someone else answer lol
gray lintel
poison probably works yes. also basically anything, it's a bit dependent on how easily you are able to dash, dash attack, special, repeat however
hypothetically that combo would result in great DPS as the special takes very little time, but for me doing that feels finnicky
last nacelle
Chiron bow is really good at benefitting from privileged status.
kind marten
I run Chiron with Artemis for lots of crits on the homing special.
gray lintel
doom on special can also work with the thing that makes multiple dooms apply more damage
last nacelle
How much damage does dire misfortune add? Isn't it something pitiful like 10?
gray lintel
it upgrades to I think 7 shots which is 70 damage, that's more than the power shot special?
10 isn't pitiful, especially if you apply 7 dooms lol
that's +60 damage on special DOOM, +130 total before it procs again, then +200 if you can get a third special in with Impending Doom plus the like +65% damage bonus impending doom has
then with Aphrodite on your attacks, those hit multiple times and potentially let you apply more dooms because it refreshes itself \o/
last nacelle
Or you can play Hestia and blow things away in one 2k damage shot.
mild crag
TRUE
last nacelle
The problem is that Doom does not have access to crazy scalars.
Can't crit except from pressure points, and it can't benefit from Chaos.
turbid needle
Doom is absolutely fine where it is.
gray lintel
i feel that it's more crit's a bit too strong
last nacelle
If you're building for attack damage though, the world is your oyster. Strike boons, Hunter Dash, Chaos Strike, Chaos Lunge, Cyclops Jerky.
gray lintel
although I suppose on the other hand crit doesn't do much other than crit
death is the best CC tho
@last nacelle doom's also pretty perk independent
it's kind of like a more focused lightning in that regard
last nacelle
Dire Misfortune itself isn't perk independent. It is arguably the most narrow boon in the game that isn't outright useless.
gray lintel
also weak has a damage bboost that should work. Hypothetically, Privileged Status should also apply.
ares/artemis also hypothetically would work. not sure if backstab applies
turbid needle
Hunting Blades cannot backstab.
stuck bough
Also a status ailment boon should always go on the attack slot right?
turbid needle
Not always.
last nacelle
Every single attack boon can apply a status.
gray lintel
i feel like your dash should always no matter what have a status ailment boon :x that's my feeling at least
it makes your DPS much better if you can dash into someone and attack to immediately apply Privileged Status
pearl shadow
I'm lukewarm about that because I use the dashes as more of a dodge type maneuver
Morese ofr getting out of the way of things
gray lintel
yeah so you dodge into them and they get a status effect
on the other hand literally like the only dash that can't apply a status effect is... I think Artemis's 'dash'?
pearl shadow
I think Athena's just delfects stuff
gray lintel
(which doesn't matter there because artemis damage is broken)
nah, athena's one of the best status applying things because she gets a boon that applies Exposed
turbid needle
Athena's Dash has a hitbox, it can apply a Status.
gray lintel
boosts backstab damage and counts as a status effect
pearl shadow
Oh
turbid needle
Ares cannot, either, he has a Blade Rift.
gray lintel
oh yeah ares i forgot about him
pearl plank
Is Ares dash any good?
pearl shadow
I tried it last night and it's okay if you're being swarmed
last nacelle
Dionysus dash applies a strong poison that has crappy pom scaling.
pearl shadow
Yikes
gray lintel
Ares dash has hypothetically insane damage.
it's good if you build for blade rift otherwise meh
pearl shadow
Also, I tried a full Dionysus build on the bow and it does STUPID damage
last nacelle
Ares dash needs at least Engulfing Vortex to be good because it increases the abysmal duration by a flat number.
turbid needle
I don't mess with Blade Dash unless it's filler.
bright plank
i keep having runs where i plan to just go in and out, talk to sisyphus and restart
and then after i beat the furies i inevitably like my build enough to complete the run
combat in this game is too fun
grand smelt
I did a few no-darkness runs to try fighting Meg without the mirror (haven't gotten any special dialogue for it), on attempts where she didn't show up I just stood in lava, but on the successful one I decided to take it as far as I could. Still can't beat Hades without a Death Defiance...
split fiber
This game does not want to give me blade rift >:c
latent badger
will double nova and big nova for stygius combined give me a normal double nova?
turbid needle
I think the range is still slightly under regular Nova.
latent badger
I have poseidon on special. will the second nova even hit?
elder verge
hmm..can u even have those both upgrades together? i heard that some upgrades exclude other ones
turbid needle
Probably not.
latent badger
Yeah I'm at the option right now
turbid needle
Yes, those two work together.
latent badger
Guess I'll choose something else
turbid needle
But yeah, Tempest Flourish is not what you want for Double Nova.
elder verge
but with poseidon, having a double nova seems pretty pointless, unless u heavily rely on wall slam dmg
turbid needle
You could drive things to the wall and really mess them up.
elder verge
could build it up on extra dmg on wall slam, or even wall slam nova from poseidon
latent badger
would the wave from piercing wave proc ares?
elder verge
it works really well for mobs, i have to say (used something similar in a run) but not as great on bosses
last nacelle
piercing wave doesn't proc crap
turbid needle
It does not.
gray lintel
wait does dashing reset your attack timer
last nacelle
I don't even know if it's scaled by attack boons.
turbid needle
It does not.
blazing mulch
If you go with double nova best choice is arthemis or Athena
latent badger
sounds like wave is pretty lame
last nacelle
Is double nova still terrible?
gray lintel
there's some weird stuff with extra dashes, with that + hermes attack speed I'm dash attacking with every single dash on sword with the double hit dash
blazing mulch
Because full damage with risk or Athana which remove the fact that the close fight are not dangerous
latent badger
normal double nova is reeeeeally small and ruined my last poseidon aspect cast run
turbid needle
I don't like Double Nova anymore.
elder verge
i generally dont like nova xD
turbid needle
Used to be the speedrun strat.
elder verge
i just watched 1 spdrun stream, was surprised how good casts can be
althrou last 2 runs blessed me with festive fog almost right away
and i must say, i was positivly impressed by it
wraith zodiac
tips on fighting hades?
elder verge
dont get hit ^^
unkempt pagoda
when he shoots his lasers, you can stand next to him and they can't hit you
the environmental protection is wonky at times, so
latent badger
One other thing with the sword, I frequently see spinning circles around people I hit. What is that effect?
wraith zodiac
the one thing i keep dying to is his circle attack
latent badger
Having extra dashes from hermes helps with that
elder verge
the spinning circle is probably green right?
unkempt pagoda
what do you mean by circles?
elder verge
he probably means support fire projectile ^^
wraith zodiac
he just hits in a big area
latent badger
It's a spinning black and red circle around the enemy after I hit them
elder verge
hmm..then red and black circle..looks like the rift from ares, do u have it on dash maybe?
unkempt pagoda
probably from a boon
elder verge
cuz i cant recall ares rift trigger on atk
unkempt pagoda
what gods do you have when you get the circles
latent badger
I think it's from wall slam
Do enemies get dazed or something from wall slam or is there like a cooldown until I can slam them again?
elder verge
its really hard to tell without knowing the boons
latent badger
posiedon special and ares attack
elder verge
ares atk triggers doom, maybe thats what ur reffering to? it does a small splash animation when it triggers
gz man @wraith zodiac
wraith zodiac
;D
elder verge
i actually noticed i have a 3 win streak, lol
latent badger
Can I not upload photos here? I took a picture but I can't drag
unkempt pagoda
you can upload them on imgur or another server and paste the link here
latent badger
https://imgur.com/a/iqhWGsi ok there
gray lintel
and hades rekt again. there's something weird 'bout dash attacks
latent badger
The rat has spinning circles around it
unkempt pagoda
oh, that's a slowing effect
you probably have the hermes boon that slows enemies down when you dash near them
elder verge
ah that...yeah, a slow from ur special
unkempt pagoda
if not, it's a slowing effect of some source
elder verge
if u use gun and have it from hammer, or from hermes when u run into them
latent badger
oooh ok. I do have hermes
latent badger
ty everyone
barren nimbus
do different crit chance effects stack? im having a hard time telling if my nemesis blade with deadly strike is critting more often or not
unkempt pagoda
yes, they do
gray lintel
they should, but I don't know if it's additive or each crit chance procs seperately
unkempt pagoda
a lot of artemis's boon tree revolves around stacking crit chances
gray lintel
(like two 50% chances to crit would be 75% not 100%)
also tested it in the chamber: dashes do seem to reset attack speed. except shield, which is weird and kinda slow with it
or rather with the sword/spear I can attack, dashreset, attack, dashreset, attack. shield I can only do the two dash attacks and not the previous attack
done fast enough it seems to also let you do the stygian's blade three hit combo while dashing but the timing is weird and unreliable it's like it's trying to do the attacks between the dashes, getting canceled by the dash, and still counting for the combo?
so Combo 1, Dash Attack, Combo 2(dash canceled, doesn't hit), Dash Attack, Combo 3/Thrust
or, no, the combo attacks overrule the dash attacks I'm confused now
split fiber
Do duo boons only work for one?
gray lintel
i am unsure the question. Both gods can offer the proper duo boon, it has requirements from both gods, it has it's effect listed.
gray lintel
yup!
split fiber
Kk
gray lintel
i've had 3 or more before
last nacelle
Does having more gods increase the chance of getting a trial room?
gray lintel
i am unsure but i don't think it happens until asphodel
brisk sentinel
does having ranks in god's pride or olympian favor reduce your chance of getting the common boons like "add poison to special" etc
last nacelle
Rarity is a base power for boons. Boons are not locked to certain rarities.
last nacelle
Duo boons and legendaries do not have varying rarities though.
gray lintel
honestly i tried the movement speed sword thing and i actually kinda like it :x Also I feel like dash speed scales with something and it might be movement speed.
not 100% sure
spear charge hammer upgrade feels good but that's the point, it lets you on the regular use fully charged spin attacks. it's effectively a damage and AOE upgrade for the spin attack.
bull rush charge speed feels a bit weird I'll admit yeah, but bull rush is still great without it
stuck bough
https://gyazo.com/4157bf2de20141236fc89d14253f5c2f this was very funny
gray lintel
(i think it's mostly that you have to attack once with the shield anyway, it feels clunky)
@stuck bough you have like half as many perks as me when I finish
errant relic
https://imgur.com/a/Tyxd6QE attack speed bug
stuck bough
that is amazing
gray lintel
zaagreus am become helicopter
errant relic
Daedalus Hammer upgrade "Hold Attack to strike rapidly" and spam Special the faster you spam spevial the faster you attack
gray lintel
errant relic
with a macro i can spam special every 0.2 sec and that's the result
gray lintel
that seems kind of related to dashes resetting attack ttimer
with any sort of hold to attack ability, you can just spam dashes to spam dash attacks, because every dash resets the attack ttimer and attacks again
frigid stump
I really enjoy Athenas deflect dash
barren nimbus
skelly just gave me some sort of quest to beat the game on heat 8, do i have to beat heat 1 through 7 first or can i take on a bunch of heat to get whatever that is
gray lintel
deflect dash is crazy good because it both deflects attacks(which is really good, it seems to even work on melee stuff :x) and can apply expose which is like an 80% or more damage boost on backstabs that also counts as a status curse for Privileged
loud elk
I might just be bad, but I figured I'd confirm if I really am or not; is it just me, or are the shield fighters in elysium extremely hard to hit? I mean, of course, they've got shields, so they're supposed to be, but I feel like, unless I'm stunlocking them with an AoE cast, dashing behind them, and then spam-attacking them, they block practically every single attack. Only other way I can manage to hit them aside from that is if I use Varatha's spear-throw mechanic. Am I doing something wrong? It feels like they block from too wide an angle.
barren nimbus
im also probably real bad at the game but sometimes it definitely feels like they block way too much. ill take any other version of those guys any day
loud elk
same. they also don't seem to have any attack indicators, though that just might be me remembering wrongly
barren nimbus
also the spin attack always catches me off guard
dire satyr and Jar-mortar-thing from the last area i think Cinder
strong flame
@barren nimbus you can just go for heat 8 immediately
barren nimbus
imo its not that bad if you know what to prioritze, if i have enough DPS to burst down the soul catcher i focus it at the start, otherwise i do damage control and try to avoid any shades respawning
gray lintel
it's annoying either way :c
last nacelle
BBB has more hp than Meg I swear to god.
solid cairn
stuck bough
Maimed shot for me
solid cairn
but the DD thing is very rare
stuck bough
Chaos likes you
solid cairn
does the +1 work if you're full on DD
gray lintel
yes
it apparently even makes a new empty slot for you in case you get kiss of styx premium later on
solid cairn
I'm gonna do it
naive cobalt
I havent been able to get their Legendary yet
gray lintel
supposedly piercing attacks can penetrate block
cosmic dawn
Can confirm they do
fading spear
Artemis cast and ult can, but I just dash behind them
cosmic dawn
EG the piercing hammer upgrade for the gun makes the bullets pierce shields
gray lintel
does that work for the bow's primary attack then cause that pierces
cosmic dawn
I don't think so
cosmic dawn
However, the hammer upgrade for the bow that makes its special pierce does, IIRC
Nice work!
haughty heron
Gz
split fiber
Would be better if i had the legendary ares
damage every consec
and artemmis' crit
cosmic dawn
I live and breathe for the day I can get hunting blades, both Ares' and Artemis' legendary, and burst shot all in one run
solid cairn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/661439359014141963/unknown.png second victory with nemesis aspect!
second victory in general
ft. chaos death defiance
and super fast sword
haughty heron
nice
solid cairn
flurry blade with +30% swing speed
I didn't even use my companion a second time
welp gonna get poseidon aspect for the first time soon
solid cairn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392070250511728653/661450 second win in a row, first win streak. fastest time, amazing world splitter crit build, first run with all DDs that I BARELY got
well I lost a DD but I ended with 3
gray lintel
i did that too, es fun
my perfect b lade run was uh
Dash Attack blades with that double hit dash attack
then Hermes for +3 dashes for 5 dashes total
and then abusing the heck out of dashes reseting your attack
turbid needle
Starting to get a little annoyed at Lightning Rod being in every single Artemis boon I pick up yet in other runs I can't get any halfway decent Duo to spawn.
gray lintel
lightning rod is pretty good with casts that don't stick in people
especially with fully loaded
turbid needle
Yeah, this is very far away from a Cast build.
gray lintel
doesn't have to be
turbid needle
And in any case the only time I think I'd rather have Lightning Rod than Greater Recall is the non-EM Heroes fight.
I'm Hestia, I want my Bloodstones in enemies.
This is all the more egregious since I've been eligible for Heart Rend for much longer but I keep seeing Lightning Rod instead.
gray lintel
fair i guess
you can always just take it then sell it for 300 dosh
or just avoid zeus(why are you taking zeus stuff as hestia lol)
gray lintel
...yes but isn't it a duo with zeus.
turbid needle
Zeus' Aid is candidate for best Aid in the game for DPS.
And if I didn't have a maxed mirror (I didn't reroll Zeus when I could have), why should I be punished like this for the game's RNG?
limpid tapir
Zeus Cast alongside Hestia helps kill tons of smaller enemies, and Zeus Call has ridicc DPS.
split fiber
i thought Artemis Aid was due to numerous crit chance shots if on max meter
turbid needle
I would need to crunch the numbers out. Lemme amend that.
Zagreus Bow run, I've got Deadly Strike and it's actually kinda shaping up. Explosive Shot or Twin Shot on the first hammer?
Level 2 Epic Hunter Dash, by the way.
final fox
hard choice
i'd lean towards explosive shot because a crit on the 300% more damage added by explosive shot is insane
but twin shot has 2 separate chances to crit, so it's more reliable
cosmic dawn
I'm pretty sure twin shot doesn't work like that Elves
either both of them crit or neither of them crit I think
It's still really good with a crit build since it basically doubles your damage
turbid needle
So, uh, that just kicked the Barge of Death's ass on 20 Heat. I officially love this build.
final fox
I'm pretty sure it does work like that, because I've had twin shot and deadly strike before
and I absolutely remember twin shot sometimes producing a crit and a non-crit at the same time
also got flurry shot, it was pretty crazy
turbid needle
turbid needle
Yup.
crimson geyser
Dang
frozen panther
Holy crap Ares Artemis is crazy
turbid needle
Best boon in the whole game.
frozen panther
slicing shot, hunting blades, fully loaded
burst shot
Engulfing vortex
i just need vicious cycle and this is the perfect build
shield going from my worst clear time at 53 mins to 24 mins
it was all the cast damage tho and u know it xD
limpid tapir
Niiiice win XD
Hey man. Sometimes getting a good Cast build irrespective of weapon can carry you 😛
civic barn
hmmm, has anyone notice some of the controls feel differenet in the last week or so
i feel like the rail special and bow special into dash cancel feels different
but i can't place my hand on what; it just feels a bit harder to execute either without it irking me
like the rail special feels like it's not registering sometimes, which i think is it being caught in the movement before hand?
i'm not sure how to explain it
trying to see if this is just my issue
sullen falcon
guys where can i find this contractor guy who i can sell diamond to ?
if its not a spoiler i guess ?
turbid needle
Shade to the right of Hades.
gray lintel
it's random what they have, and some of them have requirements too like getting a certain distance
carmine raven
limpid tapir
...my god
carmine raven
is there a way to show chamber no. always?
limpid tapir
Sisyphus trinket is actually borked.
Nada, sadly.
Throw it in #hades-feedback ?
I've an upvote waiting for you, that's a good idea 😛
carmine raven
ok
fading sandal
is there a cooldown with zeus bolts?
i played a run with chiron bow, got zeus special
bolts only triggered like 3 times in one special
turbid needle
Chiron disables multi-hits with lightning bolts.
fading sandal
that's lame
turbid needle
A little.
carmine raven
@limpid tapir I can't post in feedback, can you do that?
pastel jolt
artemis on chiron is nice
limpid tapir
Hit up #bot-commands
fading sandal
i feel like artemis is weaker than other boons?
like 15% to crit doesn't make up for having a smaller base damage?
carmine raven
Artemis, Ares, Dino are good on Chiron's special
turbid needle
Artemis is probably second best God.
pastel jolt
eravel, if you’re going to tell people how to feedback then maybe tell them to read the pinned posts ;p
fading sandal
it's why i don't use artemis
fading sandal
why is artemis better?
turbid needle
Crits are a universal damage-up.
limpid tapir
^^^
pastel jolt
If People Read Pinned Posts, They Would Not Ask How To Post In Feedback,
final fox
artemis's boon is unique in that it multiplies with other percentage boosts
turbid needle
She also is integral to Cast builds, which every God has viably.
limpid tapir
And thaaat's why the first thing I did when trying to post in #hades-feedback was read the pinned posts.
It's even stated above next to the channel title 😛
final fox
backstab, boiling blood, privileged status, are all additive
50%+50%+50% on top of the base 100% is 250% damage
aphrodite's common attack boon adds 50%, so that's 300% in total
artemis's common attack boon adds 20% and 15% chance of a 3x multiplier, so a 85% chance of 270% and 15% chance of 810%, for an average of 351%
fading sandal
is it only 150?
final fox
yes exactly
final fox
that's not even starting on artemis's other boons like marked
final fox
which allow you to apply crits to enemies using other gods high percentage boons
limpid tapir
Also, can I just say that Sisyphus trinket is just really nice?
fading sandal
ehh, marked doesn't matter on hades,mino and king, snake much anyway
i do love the extra armor damage though
limpid tapir
Everyone else kills stuff for you, but his deals half damage while also giving you ~60HP, ~100 cash, and ~25 darkness
pastel jolt
the only boss where marked will never come into play is tisiphone
limpid tapir
"Ahoy madam!" drops Bouldy on Alecto's head