it also gives you a bonus to cast damage, doesn't it?
#h1-builds-and-combat
eternal stag
pastel jolt
i mean, so is "drop a special on yourself to do more damage" and that's also an aspect
solid cairn
yes bonus cast damage
turbid needle
what casts would you even want to go along with it? aphro?
solid cairn
speaking of dropping special on yourself, what rail aspect do you recommend
pastel jolt
literally any of the casts except dionysus or ares
final fox
+50% cast damage and gems pop out when you hit special
so you've got 225 burst damage right of the bat, that you can use over and over again very quickly
pastel jolt
if you can pop the cast ammo out of someone way earlier, that means you can use it again earlier
turbid needle
aight you've sold me on it, i'll try it once i'm a little deeper in the heat runs
eternal stag
honestly even if you do have dio or ares. again. cast damage bonus.
final fox
the best casts for poseidon aspect are ones that embed the gem in the one you're pointing the cast at
pastel jolt
it pairs well with artemis's exit wounds, too, because you get the extra damage for popping it out
solid cairn
should I go zagreus or eris on rail
final fox
so no ares, dio, or zeus
turbid needle
max zag means you don't have to get infinite ammo with a hammer but that's about it
solid cairn
so eris?
final fox
i mean, getting triple bomb or spread shot instead of infinite ammo is really good
solid cairn
yeah I'm gonna go eris
turbid needle
infinite ammo only seems good with zeus on attack or artemis seeking arrows or sth along those lines
median ridge
also very good with dio on attack
final fox
spread shot applies 5 stacks of poison instantly tho
little grotto
how much heat is considered to be high
turbid needle
which one is that?
crude nebula
good duo between him and best olympian
solid cairn
yo rail and support fire is so good
crude nebula
"your Boons are At minimum : this rarity"
turbid needle
haven't seen that yet, what duo is it?
final fox
no, you just need poseidon and dio
final fox
i've never taken bounty of the sea and i've gotten it
crude nebula
dionysus even more busted than i belived
robust garden
hey is it me or did the bow get a damage buff
crude nebula
you got good
robust garden
nah but like
power does 60
instead of 40 now
hmm
what would be a good sword build
turbid needle
yeah it's just pos/dio attack/special/cast/dash
neat
i'll have to try that out sometime
unkempt pagoda
nemesis flurry blade, bonus points for zeus
robust garden
zeus it is
grand smelt
I prefer Artemis boons for sword, can be built for both Nemesis and Poseidon Aspects
little grotto
@robust garden normal power shot is 60, dash power shot 40
power shot has always been 50-60
turbid needle
Lightning Strike on the Rail with Eris is best DPS in the game, only realistically challenged by Low Tolerance.
*After Hunting Blades and Attack->Dash Merciful End
turbid needle
how does divine protection work exactly?
kind fiber
It prevents the first instance of damage you take, and recharges every 30 or so seconds
solid cairn
and triple special
kind fiber
@turbid needle
turbid needle
ah aight ty
steep sentinel
You got this!
robust garden
i didn't get patroclus
i'll have to beat theseus and the final boss on one death defiance
turbid needle
Good luck!
jolly parcel
it can be done
turbid needle
Don't forget to look for DDs to buy, or about Skelly's keepsake.
jolly parcel
done = dead?
robust garden
im one 131 hp no death defiance vs solo theseus
doable yes
but the final boss in ending me
jolly parcel
just cheap him by ambushing him after he throws his spear...he walks away for a second or two after he catches it
robust garden
26 hp and to sytx we go
jolly parcel
you got it
jolly parcel
are you running on heat?
robust garden
1
extra enemy dmg
i have enough for a basic atremis but i feel like i should go for a level 2 athena
wait i messed up
i love artemis tbh
nimble mountain
artemis best grilz
deft lance
You mean Meg
robust garden
she gave me an epic hunter dash and epic attack
deft lance
Theseus worst boy
abstract pilot
does anyone else skip through theseus's dialog because listening to his voice is too annoying?
deft lance
Everything about him annoys me so yes
robust garden
i find it somewhat interesting tbh
okay i got 3 death defiances
and a pretty good build
||hades|| here i come
deft lance
ugh I still only have one Death Defiance
robust garden
OKAY
2nd stage 2 death defiances left
i might do this
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
he clipped me twice with his big spinny attack
got him to like 20%
turbid needle
F
nah, i love theseus and am deeply sad that i've run out of conversations with him
Take a Yarn of Ariadne into the fight if possible.
already did it
robust garden
oh i haven't
turbid needle
don't quite get why that gives you + boon rarity
robust garden
ill do that soon i guess
turbid needle
thematically seems a little void
robust garden
i need to level the lucky tooth
turbid needle
yeah, 150hp is definitely more useful than 50
late basalt
The only thematic connection is that the yarn of Ariadne helps you find something, in this case better boons instead of the path out of the labyrinth
turbid needle
would be more fitting to have it be the thing that leads you to a chaos room or something though
ruby creek
@robust garden What trinkets you using?
vast hornet
Im Not quite sure where to put this. However, I've just recently bought the game so if my terminology isn't the best sorry. Anyways, just wanted to put it out there that If you get the daedulus Hammer with the paired with the begginning sword. If you are able to get the skill that allows your "Attack" to change to a 25 dmg fast swing with no combo lung you can attack much faster than intended. You can do this by spamming either your special key or crystal throw.
robust garden
ay good job dude
the hydra took me like a week to beat
hope you can do it faster than me
solid cairn
i almost beat ||Hades|| and I've been playing for less than a week @robust garden
robust garden
good for you?
solid cairn
Hydra is pretty annoying though
ancient cloud
Hydra was a run killer for me for a while
I can handle it now but honestly it's the least fun part
Something about how structured it feels makes it samey, the fact it's always head then 2 then 4 then 6 and the heads aren't noticbly different enough to feel engaging
floral sparrow
Hydra is also the boss with no "Personality."
You just arrive with little to no banter and go straight into the fight. Really sticks out since all the other bosses have some intro dialogue along with portraits.
solid cairn
yeah it's pretty boring
native ether
Anyways, just wanted to put it out there that If you get the daedulus Hammer with the paired with the begginning sword. If you are able to get the skill that allows your "Attack" to change to a 25 dmg fast swing with no combo lung you can attack much faster than intended. You can do this by spamming either your special key or crystal throw.
You mean to say that attacking manually (spam clicking) is faster than holding down the button using the Flurry Blade hammer?
solid cairn
idk bosses that become invincible at certain points for a while are like a speed bump
ancient cloud
Also Hydra's invulnerability feels the worst
solid cairn
unless it's part of an attack
native ether
Hydra is considerably much more interesting if you turn on its Extreme Measures condition.
solid cairn
like spoiler final boss
native ether
But then it becomes hard
native ether
Hydra used to stay invulnerable for a lot longer of a period before the Big Bad Update. It could take a whole attack cycle just to go back to being hittable again (it was infuriating)
floral sparrow
I don't mind the invincibility frames if its only for a few seconds but the hydra really makes the boss feel tedious
slows the momentum of the fight down
native ether
Yeah for Hydra its more of a gimmick than a transition phase (and to prevent a boss from being 1 shot). I kinda wish heads came out faster in the Hydra fight.
Luckily some of the pact options remedy this. Forced Overtime and Extreme Measures 2 speed up the Hydra fight considerably (its harder, but its imo more fun)
solid cairn
it should have been a bunch of heads with shared health
and you have to kill them one by one
floral sparrow
would rather the main head dips under the lava and then the other heads take over
solid cairn
would the other heads have the boss health
ancient cloud
Or have 7 heads all the time and each you kill buffed the rest
would help if it was ensured the heads were all unique too
ancient cloud
getting 7 skeleton spawners
native ether
(makes all the animations speed up and thus heads appear much faster)
Is there a reason that bossess always give darkness on repeat weapon runs? It feels like there could be more vaired options, like boons since darkness is arguably the least exciting reward within a given run
There is a reason for this and its the mid-late game Pact of Punishment Bounty system. (It'll make more sense when the Pact is unlocked)
final fox
you'll also unlock much larger darkness dumps
native ether
The reason its always darkness though is that its a way to help grind out the mirror faster. Back before the Superstar Update, the Pact worked differently and gave you a percent increase in the darkness you got from all sources. (And all bosses dropped darkness minus the hydra, who dropped heat, as it was a resource back then)
Now though, since that entire system went away, Darkness for boss drops if you've beaten them once before (but presumably died on a harder one) is a chance to help a player grind out mirror upgrades faster.
which usually the faster players get things like thick skin and more death defiances, the better chances of winning a run
vast hornet
No not just by manually clicking. If i was to hold down m2 or whatever you have your auto attack binded too in addition to spamming the crystal throw or special i can achieve a much high attack speed than just holding down m2
higher*
frosty hull
anyone having issues with dashes, when holding a+s+dash it wont dash (mouse dashes turned off)
vast hornet
I just hopped on to try that and I didn't have any issues
trim ingot
also if you consider the room after the boss, every boss comes with rewards like healing, free well, and keepsake change
vast hornet
perhaps your keyboard could be faulty or needs a little cleaning if possible?
frosty hull
@vast hornet all diagonal dashes work? try rebinding dash
vast hornet
well i have put darkness into an extra dash. i just respecced that to only have one dash and there is a small delay between dashes in all diagonals
also rebinded dash to be on my mouse and not keyboard
no issues other than the delay but thats intentional
i would assume anyways
vast hornet
i feel that made you waaayyyy to mobile
frosty hull
lol, binding dash to mouse makes it so all diagonal dashes work
mild crag
Just butter up hermes for a boon
frosty hull
kthx
teal wren
Darkness as a boss reward carried my first win due to nyx' keepsake
Amounted to a full heal every boss room, swapped out for styx
mild crag
Yeah I started using that when I started hell since I'd never used it before
Actually super good
Just used it til I got my preferred keepsakes
glossy plaza
wasn't even close 😅 https://gyazo.com/3e0ec0a82b2bfce416d7b77a3649f04e
why did I take a barge of death for
mild crag
Extreme measures hydra on 32 heat
native ether
The nyx keepsake is probably one of the most underrated keepsakes i think. Could actually end up saving a run if maxed and used well in Elysium or another location (also its stacking with Chaos boons would be insane)
mild crag
Also show pact pls
glossy plaza
oh I'm not on extreme measures, I'd die xD
I screwed up bad too, only 20% damage bonus
normally I'd be on 26% now
native ether
oh yeah you run the butterfly
glossy plaza
I'd want to prove that I can beat 32 heat with spear xD
native ether
spear with butterfly? oof that's gotta be rough
glossy plaza
not some OP weapons like Rail and Shield
native ether
eh Rail is good, but its definitely not op
Shield I will give you, Shield has been op since its existed XD
Rail is too hammer dependent or aspect dependent to be really op. Sure its got great combos, but if you dont get good setups you can be hurt real bad early
native ether
Spear is definitely hammer dependent mainly just cause it depends on something that increases range, or increases speed, or damage, etc
glossy plaza
all I need is multi skewer and I'm good
native ether
Flurry Jab is great with dash attacks
Flurry Jab + Hermes Dashes is absurd you can dish out so many large attacks super fast
Extended Spin attacks are also good too, or ones that make the charge faster
glossy plaza
I can't be playing melee build on 32 heat, that I know
you can't possibly scale enough damage to kill Hydra
native ether
eh probably not with the spear, sword could definitely do it
You could probably do it with the Achilles aspect
the extra mobility and base damage boost could carry hard
glossy plaza
you go and try it, Imma try to flawless my current seed, this one is pretty good so far
native ether
but with the spear? using the butterfly sounds like it leads to lots of random runs (and its harder to perfect clear rooms at 32 heat)
I'd think it would be better to say guarantee Artemis attack and an Aphrodite dash/special to set up Heart Rend, or to set up Ares Attack and Athena Deflect Dash to set up Merciful End.
glossy plaza
the perfect start for me
it's not hard to perfect clear rooms on 32 heat actually
multi-skewer carry harder than you think
native ether
Athena Dash is also your best bet to melee clearing rooms at high heat. Its so much defense
glossy plaza
all dash upgrades are irrelevant to me, I just want Hermes' extra dashes
cause dash i-frames are only on normal dashes, not dash attacks
native ether
imagine hermes bonus dashes with athena dash lol
glossy plaza
idc about Athena's dash personally
pretty useless if you ask me, give me her attack boon
I want something consistent and don't risk me wasting a dash on stuff
mild crag
Rail is totally op
native ether
its much better than you think for a melee build. (Specifically high defense and one of if not the best duo boon in the game is easy setup with it)
Rail doesnt hit-stun. If it did, then yeah I'd agree it would be busted. You gotta get a hammer upgrade for that though, and its damage is low without proper building, and without proper hammers.
glossy plaza
and here's my pact and I'm on base spear https://gyazo.com/0527cc05987082709020c56d967bcf1b
native ether
Base Rail
pastel jolt
Heat Gauge greatly exceeded!!! why would you do this to yourself 
native ether
Rail used to be considered tied for last place before Aspects came out lol. The Aspects fix its number 1 problem (an underwhelming amount of damage)
glossy plaza
perfectly clearing room is not about being hard or not, it's about you have to perfect clear or you would take too much damage before a boss
mild crag
They gave it super good aspects yeah
native ether
Considering the Shield is better than Hestia aspect Rail without a single aspect though :kappa:
mild crag
Your pact scares me @glossy plaza
native ether
So is the sword in all honesty but the sword got amazing aspects and it was already better than base rail
mild crag
@native ether 
native ether
Run Heightened Security
mild crag
Cut middle management
native ether
Put those 2 points there and save yourself some extra healing
mild crag
Curse pact
native ether
eh middle management is fine tbh
mild crag
Not in asphodel
glossy plaza
I'd prefer not dying on Hydra, tyvm
mild crag
Middle management is fine in Tartarus and Elysium
It makes asphodel minibosses too hard
Either of them
native ether
guess I can do some experimenting on this save file. I don't have my full save file on me but I can muck around with some 32 builds
mild crag
32 heat builds are fun
native ether
i dont have any of my companions on this file unfortunately
but /shrug i can do it without
mild crag
Feels like I'm brand new again
crimson geyser
are dash attacks a subset of attack? for the purposes of things that augment your attack i mean?
mild crag
Yes
Attack counts for dash attack
But there are specifics for dash attack too
Which stack with whatever you have for attack
velvet jewel
what is the secret stash all about? I just beat Hades and its still all locked?
native ether
Anything that boosts attack boosts dash attack
mild crag
Which secret stash
native ether
anything that boosts dash attack does not boost normal attack
velvet jewel
where you choose your keepsakes there are 6 locks that i still have to unlock
the heart locks on the bottom
native ether
This is what im thinking for 32
https://imgur.com/a/ez74iUM
glossy plaza
if ask me, personally, I'd take another 15% more hp in Calisthenics Program over my Forced Overtime
yea, good luck with that, when enemies run at you at 150% movement speed and projectile flies at you faster, you'll really know the pain
mild crag
That pact looks rough
Though I am fearful of middle management, extreme measures beyond 1 and damage control
Especially 2 damage control wew
glossy plaza
oh I'm on hell mode btw, I got that no impervious thing
mild crag
Ye same
glossy plaza
Tight Deadline is a pain, I'd rather take my time than be rushed in a boss fight
mild crag
9 minutes is plenty of time, just take one point and save yourself something else
Well 2 points rather
glossy plaza
if I'm doing Butterfly, I'd rather take my time and not take damage personally
mild crag
That's fair I run it even with butterfly but it's all preference
native ether
The only time Tight Deadline is hard is in Elysium
Hydra I got out with 4 minutes to spare and I ran Extreme 3 and Tight Deadline 2
you can totally get through biomes fast if you know how (spam chaos and avoid minibosses you cant take)
glossy plaza
that's the point, you can't really expect people to walk through Elysium hitless on Tight Deadline 2
native ether
Chaos always skips a room
mild crag
How about shops and stuff
glossy plaza
yea, Chaos skip room but you can't really take Chaos if you getting half healing
native ether
watch me :kappa:
native ether
They dont turn off the timer but they count towards the total length of the biome
mild crag
Really what I'm asking is which path to take to reduce number of encounters
Does Erebus skip an encounter too?
I know it is an encounter itself
But I find erebus easier than a lot of rooms
glossy plaza
Erebus itself is an encounter
honest stirrup
Is there a reason to collect darkness after the 2500 cap in Hell Mode? Since I can only increase the amount that I'm limited via heat stuff I'm sitting on 4k with nowhere to put it. I know the fleece ghost sometimes has deals with darkness but not always
mild crag
Does it count towards the total rooms or is it an additional room
@honest stirrup just for the bad deal ghost and nothing else unfortunately
Darkness is +5 hp for us hellions
But ye if somebody could test erebus maybe for me
If it skips I'll take it every time
Especially when it's a heart
teal wren
is it intended that hermes' "bonus movement speed for 0.x seconds after dashing" doesn't apply for dash attacks?
glossy plaza
pretty sure, yes
dash attacks are offensive, while i-frames and that boon is defensive so they are not active
Athena's boon is considered to be offensive but its deflect time is also shortened on a dash attack
teal wren
oh well, another question, does eris aspect increases the damage from support fire/zeus' lightning since its a global multiplier?
mild crag
Yes it increases all damage
teal wren
that's amazing
glossy plaza
that's why it's so strong
and people say Rail is as OP as shield
due to how much damage Eris Aspect can do
mild crag
What's the bonus get up to?
Never maxed it out
I tribute all my bloods to Hestia
Then I take that every time so I spend blood on other weapons
teal wren
up to 60%
well then that's the third aspect I'm maxing :p(zagreus sword only cuz of ||skelly||)
mild crag
I like Nemesis sword uwu
glossy plaza
I thought everyone likes Poseidon's sword?
teal wren
maxed, that is
glossy plaza
the one that dislodge Casts
teal wren
its cool since you can have your fun with only 1 level of it
meanwhile chaos shield/eris aspect don't do much with just a single point
fallow eagle
Uh sorry I don't know where to ask this but how do I get permission to post feedback
teal wren
read the pinned post on the feedback channel, theres a command you paste on the bot command channel
fallow eagle
thank you very much
Is anyone else getting the experience that the gun feels very strong compared to the other weapons
fallow eagle
I feel like you get poison + ares on the special
native ether
sword and shield both exist in all honesty
fallow eagle
and you can kind of destroy everything
glossy plaza
sword kinda sux imo xD
native ether
gun has some fantastic dps, but you're limited on what builds that really shines in
lol you've clearly never tried sword merciful end :p
fallow eagle
I guess the thing with it for me is it just feels very easy to get a very OP build with the gun
Even though only specific boons work well
native ether
gun is hammer and boon dependent
you dont get what you're looking for, you have either be a good player, or the run is a loss
native ether
gun's damage is lowest without its hammers. You find Triple Bomb, or any attack modifier, your damage will surge
glossy plaza
is that not the point of the game? "gitting gud"?
native ether
gun became much better and is imo the 2nd best weapon in the game entirely due to the aspects
Shield is still and always will be the best weapon in the game. Really fast and high attack, open to lots of builds, you can block damage, and you're super mobile
Sword you're super mobile, you need to be more careful, but its more mobile than the Spear. Spear is the unlucky last place cause you have to be pretty close to have a high damage output, and you have to stand still while doing it.
Bow is the Bow. Super good, super niche.
Chiron Aspect is god tier, but it got nerfed and havent tried the nerf
glossy plaza
well, that's why I'm setting out to beat the game on 32 heat with your so called "last place weapon"
teal wren
hera aspect is pretty good too
gilded eagle
Is farming up 1k gold at the end best way to farm diamonds? or just try to spam out heat levels?
teal wren
spam the heat levels, get 1k if you can and feel like it won't impair your end fight, check the vendor in the house of hades every run in case a good deal pops up
do the minor prophecies if you haven't already
gilded eagle
i like half go for prophecies, they are kinda luck dependent
native ether
always take the coin purse in a run
really helps
hera aspect is good too but its less generally good i feel
but if you get a good cast build, its good
spear is imo the last place weapon cause its a very slow and immobile weapon in a very mobile game
glossy plaza
so is Rail? hell Rail don't even have a stagger
jolly parcel
you don't have to be near an enemy like with spear
kind fiber
How did you unlock personal liability?
glossy plaza
Hell mode
median ridge
rail does damage a lot quicker than spear. mainly i think my issue with it is that it hurts my fingers to use. lots of rapid clicking to attack
kind fiber
What does personal liability do?
glossy plaza
you know you get like some i-frames when you get hit so hard
well you ain't getting them anymore so now you gonna be taking the full 20+25 damage from a head slamming at you in the Mega-Gorgon chamber with Middle Management
native ether
rail you get to play very far away and you have the best aoe damage in the game with its special
also wow good luck to anyone who wants to try a max heat clear
i didnt even get to meg on the rail
fast thicket
sooo
native ether
(granted this is not my best save but wow)
fast thicket
4 ares blade vortexes at once is a little strong
fast thicket
whats that
native ether
Hunting Blades is the Artemis Ares Duo. Makes your Cast Rifts follow and chase enemies.
His Legendary is Vicious Cycle. Each time an enemy takes damage from a rift, the next hit from the rift deals +1 additional damage
(and this can scale until the rift despawns)
native ether
requires you to get one of his tier 2 rift boons (Black Metal or the one that pulls enemies into rifts and makes them last longer)
Try it with the Artemis Legendary, Fully Loaded (+3 cast ammo)
Ares Blade rifts with the perfect storm of addons are honestly the best build in the game
glossy plaza
this is going pretty well actually https://gyazo.com/01f5082c605107bf86c988ec5197c2df
native ether
Rapid Cast will also make your rifts faster. If you have hunting blades, that's amazing.
this is a yikes
https://imgur.com/a/mWccdW6
fast thicket
what have you done to yourself
native ether
im not gonna seriously try this until I have Mort or Battie maxed out
eternal stag
'great, you made heat gauge cry, happy??'
native ether
I don't even know if this is possible
it honestly might require an entirely new strategy
fast thicket
Talk about there is no escape
native ether
like you might be forced to take skelly's keepsake just to survive tartarus
you're definitely forced to take chaos rooms just to get through fast enough and find his legendary
theres no way you can use a god keepsake, you need to run something defensive
buying out shops is out of the question
glossy plaza
I'd just say, run Thanatos keepsake and get good
you are forbidden to get hit anyways, might as well
limpid tapir
You'll make the heat gauge cry, then the heat gauge will make you cry XD
glossy plaza
it's not about being possible or not, it's about you have to do it lmfao
Tight Deadline or not, did you think Lasting Consequences gonna let you recover from ANY hit that you take?
limpid tapir
Don't forget 50% increase to attack/movespeeds with double damage.
steep sentinel
Does skelly ever mention that you can dash through solid things? It took me a while to realize that was the case
glossy plaza
you can dash through pretty much everything
jolly parcel
you can prolly even dash through the snow in a one horse open sleigh.
mild crag
If you take off tight deadline I think it changes from literally impossible to humanly impossible lol
solid cairn
Are there speedruns of this game yet
cosmic dawn
Does the breaking wave boon count as a knock-away effect?
glossy plaza
pretty sure it doesn't knock away again
cosmic dawn
Because I just took a Poseidon boon with all of the options being related to his knock-away skills
That's kinda unfortunate then
solid cairn
I love this game
I've played gungeon for over 600 hours
and honestly it's almost as fun
sorry wrong game
turbid needle
I just started Gungeon and after Nuclear Throne and this, Gungeon feels kinda slow.
turbid needle
How so?
limpid otter
turbid needle
He looks like Vergil.
mild crag
stylish characters, quick action hack n slash and banger soundtrack
teal wren
so... in your guys opinions, what's the best special to go with chiron aspect? dionysius is the first to come to mind but maybe there's something I'm missing?
turbid needle
My favorite is Deadly Flourish.
teal wren
that's... artemis'?
turbid needle
Sorry, yes.
pastel oriole
poseidon. you can get multiple wall slams
gray oxide
anyone have tips on how to consistently perform with the spear? I've found a comfort level with all the other weapons
Stygius I usually go poseidon aspect, and just cast everything and its very flexible and I can almost always get a run going with just about any cast boons
Coronacht I similarly usually go for Hera and nuke all the things with casts, so very very satisfying
Exagryph I just stick with Zag and lean hard into the hammer upgrades I get, either triple special, or shotgun/explosive shot, there are so many powerful hammer options I never get stuck without one I can exploit
Aegis is just so strong on its own I havent needed a set strategy, just building around the base attack and dash and knowing when to block.
But the spear is just frustrating to me, ive heard achilles cast can be good, but I already have two weapons I mostly use as casters, and those feel much better to use. the best runs ive had with spear either got the rapid attacks/distance damage together, or just spammed the rocket shot replacement for the special.
Neither hit even close to the synergy highs ive had with every other weapon after getting into the groove of them, I feel like im using it completely wrong.
turbid needle
My favorite spear build is spin attack with Quick Spin and Massive Spin.
marble stirrup
Ayyyyyy, just did my first sub 30 minute run. Feels good
final fox
Hades aspect of the spear is about spin attacks. Achilles aspect is about mobility and also spin attacks. The damage boost lasts for 2 attacks, just long enough to get a regular strike and then charge up a spin attack.
spear also has a very good dash attack, big range and AoE. Both spear aspects are percentage damage boosts, so another percentage damage boost won't do you much good on the attack. Try to get a status like poison or doom on the attack so you can dodge around spamming dash attack and spread status everywhere.
gray oxide
sure but throw>dashretreive>stab>charge is a long setup, I guess it just feels a lot clunkier than the other weapons, even the bow or gun dont involve so much standing still
gray oxide
truu
id feel better about it if armor didnt give the enemy perfect one shot protection 
chilly abyss
Consistency with spear seems hard because the spear deadalus upgrades are so vastly different and it's not well suited to any particular win condition without them. I usually try to get a hammer and a chaos upgrade ASAP. Once I got both I lean fully into it if I got both on the same kind of effect, like both improving the special or attack.
If they are different I don't choose any particular style and just roll generally good boons until I get another chaos or hammer
turbid needle
As far as "ease" goes, Hades is actually good if you've got a powerful Special.
chilly abyss
You can do some silly things with your special especially, but if you get fast attack upgrades poison is viable too.
For me picking a spear aspect is never important. None of them are super good by themself so I just use what gives me a nice early game
Spear to me seems like a more difficult weapon to play. You need to be familiar with distances and generally brawl a lot without the fallback to range, casts, or block that the other weapons offer. You do get this weird mid-range fighting potential which I can see people really use for interesting charge attacks and dash attacks or attack cancelling.
gray oxide
yeah I guess spear always feels like "I could be doing this build with a different weapon"
atomic citrus
whats the max level for weapons?
turbid needle
5 for the Aspects.
atomic citrus
ty
pure tundra
Is Artemis Dash really hard to hit with? Am I missing something?
manic ermine
Artemis dash gives you a buff to your next dash attack
turbid needle
It boosts the power of your Dash Attack™️. Press the Attack button in the middle of a dash for that attack bonus.
pure tundra
ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
turbid needle
Yeah, the one in the game that doesn't have an effect directly tied to the button.
pure tundra
TY!
I was wondering why I could never seem to hit anything with it, unlike all the other dashes that have a comfortable AoE
lean sluice
do you keep the damage buff from thans keepsake if you take it off
or do you have to have it on the whole run
mild crag
You lose it if you take it off
karmic coyote
how does Zeus shield interact with the Daedalus upgrade that makes your special hit up to 6 enemies before returning, or it just doesn't give you that option anymore
lean sluice
wouldn't know, only bothered with the zeus shield twice ish
last time I just gave up trying to make it useful and went hunting blades
atomic panther
It just doesn't offer you that
atomic panther
I absolutely love Zeus Shield
I've gotten it dealing over 200 damage per tick before
kind fiber
Anyone know how the chaos aspect shield interacts with the explosive return hammer upgrade?
atomic panther
I'm pretty sure it explodes every single time
kind fiber
Seems strong then
lean sluice
the shield in general feels kinda weak compared to the other weapons
at least in my experience
frosty pier
Then you using it wrong
kind fiber
The shield is plenty strong
karmic coyote
the shield is probably the strongest for me, it absolutely clobbers bosses
kind fiber
Great usage of the athena/ares duo
frosty pier
That one fact that you can just not even bother with a lot of moves that bosses throw at you is insane.
lean sluice
allow me to elaborate on "weak"
yes the block is good
but in terms of damage it takes a lot more effort to get it clearing rooms quickly than everything else
kind fiber
Ehhh?
lean sluice
sure its good with athena/ares duo but thats good with multiple things and duos aren't that easy to get
kind fiber
athena/ares*?
lean sluice
kinda need some stars to align to get it even close to the damage potential of a lot of other weapons
yes thats what i meant
all the god damn names start with A and its 3:30 am
anyway
karmic coyote
it doesn't take very long with chaos aspect alone
kind fiber
Dunno about that man, it has strong knockback and isn't as reliant on hammer boons as the other weapons
the knockback helps you control enemies while you kill them
lean sluice
knockback can be useful but other weapons have that too (especially if they get anything poseidon related) and it doesn't do anything vs bosses
and imo its not "not that reliant on hammer", its hammer buffs just aren't that good
kind fiber
It has some good boons but it doesn't need them as much as say the rail gun
little grotto
i dont think its that bad, even if you dont like the melee aspect you can still try a special build, i have cleared the game several times with a special only build, its extremely good with dionysos and ares but also pretty good with aphrodite and artemis, just appying things or hitting hard from a distance while you can kite is strong
lean sluice
well the rail gun doesn't "need" hammer buffs to win either, but most of the rail buffs are just bonkers and scale like crazy
let me put this more succinctly
kind fiber
I'd think the rail gun would be pretty weak without hammer boons
lean sluice
it feels like the shield has a much lower ceiling in terms of its performance than many of the other weapons
all you really need with rail is zeus attack and you're pretty much good to go until elysium
and you're almost guaranteed a hammer by then
if you're going specifically a special build on rail than yeah you probably need at least one hammer, but once you have it you just slaughter things
karmic coyote
Rail triple bomb can carry the whole game
lean sluice
exactly
nothing the shield does really carries games
in that way
another example
hera aspect bow (thats the one that casts on your attack right)
you just start with that aspect and take dionysus keepsake
get his cast
and you destroy the whole rest of the game
no hammers required
frosty pier
Eh, let's just not even talk about how bow got all (or most of them) the best things
turbid needle
Is there any restriction on what boons you cant get for certain weapon?
frosty pier
Boons no. Hammers can rule out eachother.
karmic coyote
wait so if i use Hera bow with Artemis cast then all my arrows become homing missiles? never used hera bow before
lean sluice
hera bow still consumes your cast ammo
you just hit the cast button and it loads that cast onto your next shot
so not all your arrows do that
turbid needle
I tried searching for hunting blades boon with hera bow but to no avail
lean sluice
but your casted ones do
but why do that when you can get poseidon or dionysus and AOE down whole rooms in one cast
frosty pier
R N G
turbid needle
i got the double boon for ares and artemis is that the reason?
lean sluice
no
onyx rivet
Anyone know how to play the game with higher fps?
turbid needle
im just getting rng'ed
lean sluice
you can get duo boons of lots of people
karmic coyote
that sounds fun, i should try hera bow soon
lean sluice
i mean how high do you want to go mine runs at 144 without me doing anything weird
blazing mulch
@onyx rivet what do you mean/?
onyx rivet
seems it's locked at 60
blazing mulch
do you have high Hz screen ?
onyx rivet
yes
blazing mulch
nvidia or AMD card?
onyx rivet
gtx 1080
blazing mulch
go to nvidia panel (the old one) and turn off vsync for Hades.exe
and if possible (if your screen support it) turn on gsync
blazing mulch
no problem
onyx rivet
now it runs at 144
lean sluice
anyway yes, closing statement, fairly large power gap between the weapons
lean sluice
hera bow > rail > other bows >> spear > sword >>> shield
blazing mulch
for example almost all says rail is best , while since i got the game 9 month ago i still cant beat the game with Rail
karmic coyote
i think Hades is great at balancing all the weapons, none of them feel bad to use, for me at least
blazing mulch
whatever I do the ammo mechanic cause headache for me and totally disturb gameplay for me
lean sluice
none of them are bad but some have a much higher ceiling in effectiveness than others
yeah if you can't beat the game in 9 months dude idk what to tell you but the weapon ain't the problem
blazing mulch
I did not said i did not beat the game XD just cant with the Rail. overall I finished the game with all rest weapons
little grotto
@karmic coyote for the previous stuff about hera bow, the cast is attached to your attack in a way that it activates either when an enemy is hit by your attack or if you dont hit anything it activates where the attack would dissapear (or you hit a wall then there)
so ares cast whirling blades are dropped on top of enemy, dionysos keg explodes on enemy, aphrodite V shaped cast starts where you hit the enemy etc, its amazing i was experimenting quite a lot with it
lean sluice
that is what i meant
karmic coyote
thanks for the explanation, ought to try hera bow now
wind vale
hmm - stuff is happening on my screen https://imgur.com/a/FrSyYnI
i think i should try to swap the call to dionysus - not just because it should work better with this setup but mostly because sometimes i can still see stuff 🙂
little grotto
jezus thats a lot of Zeus boon
sometimes i wish i could have a chohesive build like that
wind vale
and here i was mostly focusing on getting support fire
but rerolls do help avoid gods i dont want so that certainly helps
unborn trellis
does EGS or Hades itself track hours played?
i wanna know how long it took for you to have 32k darkness just lying aroung
wind vale
i think egs tracks it in their client
no idea if hades does but probably not
(i have hardly any time played according to egs and that really isnt true 😄
since i always close these clients when i dont need them
unborn trellis
closing the client shouldnt stop tracking 🤔
turbid needle
the poseidon dash boon is so pretty but so much eye clutter
theres already a lot going on on the screen but that boon really sticks out to me
wind vale
hmm - should i intentionally end my winstreak at 42 now?
unborn trellis
why
wind vale
its the answer
unborn trellis
dont do it for a meme
grand smelt
do it for the meme
wind vale
its just a winstreak - i dont really value them
run started wit aphrodite giving me epic special, epic cast and epic call(or dash?) - seems she doesnt want me to 🙂
ill still do it after im done testing if her cast works with heras bow now
i mean works well
humble temple
Hey guys, I'm sure somebody asked this already, but I don't see anything in search.
How do I unlock aspects? I have 8 blood and all weapons unlocked, but I don't see any options for unlocking
am I dumb?
wind vale
have you done a run after unlocking the last weapon?
wind vale
i hope so
wind vale
the upgrade - like the 5th weapon should appear when you are gone after completing the requirements - else its bugged :S
oh got it now? good
gray plover
seeing lowercase Zeus in chat here makes me read it as zay-us if I don't already know the person is talking about the gods. 😨
little grotto
sorry @gray plover it was my villainy
gray plover
@little grotto haha not your fault. It just happens to me all the time.
wind mauve
does anyone know why i'm not getting any more titan blood, diamonds and ambrosia from bosses? I have about 20 tries and this has been happening for a while. I keep getting darkness (purple gems)
even the "map" screen (between levels) shows titan blood, diamond and ambrosia on the boss icon
unborn trellis
those only give you that thing once per weapon per heat level
you have to beat the game to reset them by playing on a higher heat
wind mauve
oh, I see. better git gud then :p thanks @unborn trellis
twilit ridge
Worth noting that the rewards are also tied to weapons, so if you're stuck on a difficulty on one weapon you can still claim bounties for the other weapons too
shy nexus
Bigboi damage
unborn trellis
didnt someone post 4k here
wind vale
wow i see a 35 there
gray plover
35 is from artemis arrow sneaking in there
twilit ridge
35? That's insane
twilit ridge
Real talk though wow, I've never seen damage that high outside of Aphrodite call
unborn trellis
looks like a heavy sord chop?
gray plover
yeeee
this is what I ended with:
https://i.gyazo.com/79298237606f94d9eeab6dce04bbf562.jpg
wind vale
usually its multiple hits so the numbers arent as big
gray plover
there's crit damage on weak and stuff
I was soooo tempted to take the daedalus upgrade "Armor Slayer - Your Attack deals +300% damage to Armor." since the crit on that would've been insane but I didn't wanna risk messing up and not winning lol
wind vale
oh its just the regular attack with that amount of buffs - thats even bigger than it looks - nice
gray plover
I think crit builds are the best builds
wind vale
yea crit just makes everything have good damage
unborn trellis
they might be the best scaling ones, yeah
gray plover
dunno about higher heat though, but I was consistently doing like 800 crits
at the end anyway
wind vale
even then - if enemies die they cant do damage
gray plover
true
wind vale
but there is a reason i really love the athena artemis duo
makes everything crit and have good damage
so everything gets a chance to work
mild crag
Ah I swear something up with dashing I seem to keep getting hit during em
Yes I'm salty
Had athena's deflect animation spinning around me whilst I was in death defiance after being killed by an arrow
Bug or something else?
I'll F10 it just in case
But I'm still livid lol
jaunty fog
frosty pier
You gave link to the place no one here can go. Maybe try imgur?
placid plinth
Yeeeah, finally eight Fated Authority
It doesn't help me as much, especially after last update, with keys, but still
mild crag
Damn near customise your builds at will with that much authority
placid plinth
Tbh, I don't use it that much other than to reroll Elite encounters. And waste the rest on Styx
mild crag
I forget I have them usually
placid plinth
There is a way to reroll doors in Styx that way that you get Heart on Elite rooms
||You reroll door that has Heart, and then reroll Elite room - and Heart will be there, because there is a limited pool of possible rerolls each time||
Very useful to get HP to at least 300
ruby creek
Man the WASD keys are ass for trying to move around in a hurry.
Especially when you're trying to dash.
mild crag
I'm doin okay with em
ruby creek
Coped well enough with them so far but then I did the ||heat challenge|| with ||extreme measures on the hydra boss ||and the room layout is impossible for me on keybaord.
Like i took at least 50-100 damage just standing in lava -_-
mild crag
Extreme measures hydra is very difficult so
Don't feel like somethings up
I think it's too hard honestly
ruby creek
My guy just isn't moving where I want him too.
mild crag
Have you tried a game pad, maybe that'll work out for you better
ruby creek
Yeah Ill have to pick one up for this game.
Usually a strategy gamer. Don't usually play games that where I have to 'do stuff' :P.
But the hydra fight you don't want to be moving on a North, East, South & West direction. So the WASD keys kinda suck I feel.
ruby creek
Yeah its tricky though for me.
Maybe its just I dont have a lot of practise with this style of game.
Hitting WA and WD is fine, makes sense because of the arrangement.
But AS and SD are just weird.
green birch
You’ll get it soon I’m sure!
ruby creek
Haha yeah, honestly was throwing it out to see how others felt.
Like you know what I mean? The W diagonal 'point' the way you want your character to move. The S diagonal not so much.
untold wedge
After 13hrs I finally got my first Victory 
gloomy scroll
Congrats!!
solid cairn
Which weapon
Also I realized I pretty much need zag for rail
With the way I play
But I’ve gotten all the Titan blood I can get for now
I wasted some on zag aspect for shield
And the homing bow spray thing
pastel jolt
chiron aspect on bow singlehandedly rescued the bow special for me
solid cairn
Is that the one I’m thinking of
pastel jolt
yeah, the homing bow special
solid cairn
Oh good thing I didn’t get one that sucked
Looking back, zag shield probably not the best idea
pastel jolt
chiron aspect + artemis special = Fun
solid cairn
Damage reduction just sounded good idk
pastel jolt
one of these days i’m gonna go for poseidon special on chiron and see what happens
solid cairn
What’s considered the best shield aspect
velvet nest
none of the shield aspects are that amazing imo, but the best is probably that one that throws multiple shields after you bull rush
solid cairn
Best part of shield is the double attack one and you just spam attack
With poison on hit
Or any status
untold wedge
First victory was with the bow
ember lotus
I like explosive return on shield
untold wedge
Ares doom + aphro combo where the doom kept dealing dmg while weak was applied
ember lotus
I liked explosive return even more when it could get buffed from boons
velvet nest
the ares + aphro combo used to be SOOOO good
it's still really good, but it's way more nerfed now
solid cairn
I like rail cuz it feels like a gungeon run
elfin pulsar
Zeus aspect is my favorite aspect in the game period, idk if it's necessarily the best but the damage goes up a lot with upgrades, and it's super nice with some special boons like Zeus
Really fun and really strong to sandwich people with it and/or keep knocking them into it
bright prawn
If I am using the Hades Aspect spear, does taking the Flurry Jab turn off your ability to apply Punishing Sweep or does the flurry still apply it?
gray plover
you can't spin so you can't apply it
bright prawn
Thanks
gray plover
(I still pick it though - it's a nice ability)
olive badger
how does olympian favor and god's pride interact?
solid cairn
ayy gotta love when your controller doesn't connect in the middle of a boss
it's not the batteries
I have so much attack up and rail is doing like no damage anyway
crude nebula
yep
solid cairn
I tried to like it but it just sucks
solid cairn
that's such BS dude
crude nebula
it works but its trash
solid cairn
seriously so underpowered
solid cairn
what is zeus rail like a zeus boon
gilded eagle
Is it worth gifting nectar to bouldy?
timber prairie
Sup yall, just got the game, wanted to say I've been absolutely loving it! Exactly what I was hoping/wanting it to be 
civic barn
unless you haven't filled out the relevant affections this patch (i'd go ask spoilers for which one) it's probably not a bad idea to nectar bouldy
turbid needle
@solid cairn zeus on attack proc is basically 100%+ dmg up on your rail attack and some amount of aoe (which can get upgraded with his other boon that lets lightning jump to more enemies on each proc)
crude nebula
just use zeus´ attack with rail
his zaps do flat damage
which is great with rapidfire
solid cairn
damnit lol I had that earlier but I didn't know how good it was
lost hedge
Does anyone have tips on dealing with the 3rd bosses. The bull and the hero guy? I've been wrecked by them every time. I seem to do very little damage and I can't seem to avoid the bull when he does his charging attack
final fox
dodge through the bull
and try to bait him into ramming a wall or trap to stop the charge attack
he won't stop charging until he hits something
lost hedge
Oh you can make him stop? I didn't realize
final fox
pull the bull away from theseus and try to fight the bull on the outside ring of the arena, behind the pillars
so you can avoid the spear throw easier
mortal sand
That's what I do, yeah.
And Asterius you can dodge through if you get him to run straight into the wall, just be aware that he'll start sending waves out behind him when he crashes into it after a certain HP threshold.
lost hedge
Cool. Thanks guys. I make easy work of the first 2 bosses but I can't seem to beat this one. So much health.
turbid needle
he also stops after a while if you've avoided him and haven't made him crash into a wall
also you probably should focus fire asterius if you're not already doing that
floral scarab
agreed. run laps and laps around the outside, pot-shotting Asterius with whatever you've got until he dies. Idk if that works with the sword, but it's worked for every other weapon I've tried
lost hedge
Asterius is the bull right? He's the one I've been trying to take down first.
floral scarab
yes
lost hedge
alright cool. I'll keep at it.
floral scarab
Theseus is the one who likes to monologue/grandstand before every fight
lost hedge
gotcha
burnt rune
Chrion Aspect now blocks the bow hammer upgrade that allows secondary shots to pierce enemies. The reason for this is because if you combined the two the arrows would just continuously circle around the marked target like a ball of angry bees until they died which ...was not exactly the intended way to use it.
I need this to come back thanks
median ridge
new weapon to be released: ball of angry bees
gray plover
Gotta bring in that honey
Bzzz
turbid needle
final weapon is a wasps' nest
hard holly
I still would love the final weapon to just be Cerberus
turbid needle
Co op gameplay with cerberus
hard holly
Nah, just use him as a flail
gray oxide
Is there a way to tell which pillars in Asphodel drop money
median ridge
pillars drop money????
hard holly
The golden pillars with skulls do drop money
turbid needle
what
hard holly
In fact, far as I can tell they always do
But there is a catch
They only do until you clear the stage
gray oxide
sometimes I break one in combat and it doesnt I think but perhaps im misremembering
hard holly
Maybe thats when you use a trove?
median ridge
how is it that ive played for a year and never seen this
gray oxide
(it may be that they only do so after you buy golden urns)
hard holly
But yeah, I did notice it before
But I wasnt ever sure
Because its not clear
You have to go out of your way to destroy them while also fighting enemies
gray oxide
I only realized when I watched a stream
hard holly
And they take a lot of hits to destroy
wind vale
if you look in eurydices room - both at the entrance always contain gold
hard holly
I only noticed it when using explosive spear
wind vale
its a very low amount anyways
hard holly
Because they happened to get destroyed along the way as well
While being far enough away from the enemies
That I know the gold couldnt have come from those
dire cedar
Goddamn there was only a 10 minute window for Q&a and i was driving to work
turbid needle
maybe someone already asked your questions
dire cedar
nope. Checked. O well. i can wait till next itme.
solid cairn
I actually despise Theseus and Minotaur
gray oxide
Thanatos cmon now, thats a bit passive aggressive https://i.imgur.com/ySq7ouj.png
grand patrol
GFHFCHG i got that too....hes so rude
floral scarab
Yeah, I wonder if having fixed spawn points for boons and such is an eventuality. other players have had less....ironic and more inaccessible boon spawns
crude nebula
oh come on
i was fighting hades and all of a sudden, my casts dissapeared
for good.
its early access but that still cost me a run
frigid stump
You using lightning casts? I find they like to end up in very weird places
kind fiber
Were you using the bow?
crude nebula
no
kind fiber
hmmmm
crude nebula
i shot out my tipsy shots, and they vanished
just a small bug
will be fixed in no time
still upset
kind fiber
There seems to be a cast bug where you can have casts in your "inventory" despite the user interface saying you have 0, I thought it was a bug with the hera aspect bow, but it might go beyond that?
kind fiber
So they weren't anywhere on the map?
crude nebula
nope
kind fiber
Stuck behind a wall and not visible (beyond debris or something)?
kind fiber
When did it disappear?
crude nebula
it usually pops out in the middle of the fog when it expires
kind fiber
So it didn't reappear when the fog cleared?
kind fiber
So it created a fog, then you aren't sure what happened?
crude nebula
it worked, i wailed on hades, when i went to pick them up there werent any there
kind fiber
k then
Is this the first time the bug happened to you?
Has it happened with any other cast or just Dion?
crude nebula
not sure
if it has i havnt noticed cause casts replenish after a room no matter what
unkempt pagoda
did you report it
stoic berry
I had that happen to me before with tipsy shot as well, I had tossed them out and before they landed I lost a death defiance and they disappeared I was able to report it with f10 at the time so hopefully it gets fixed
solid cairn
bro I seriously can't beat ||hades|| I had 2 defiances and full health
in his second phase sometimes you just take 100 damage from one attack
floral scarab
Keep going Cinder. It took me probably 10 runs to finally get past him
woeful sage
Blocking with the shield helps significantly especially against his laser attacks.
solid cairn
oh I like shield
floral scarab
swapping to the shield from the rail is how I got past him
but that was just my experience. didn't want to bias your runs too much
floral scarab
I have absolutely no idea
Chaos aspect is nice to have, but it isn't too impactful in the grand scheme of things
kind fiber
You can trade ambrosia back in limited quantities at a 2 to 1 ratio, if you value being able to unlock weapons faster more than the trade back value of 2 to 1, then its worth it in the long term. If you don't, its only potentially worth it in the short term in the sense of being able to unlock weapons faster
Do what you want
Its fine either way right now
floral scarab
I think that's the nice thing about this game, there's very few "bad" choices. it's always just trade-offs
toxic compass
I got the chaos legedary that gives you an extra live but i already had 3. Is it supposed to vanish when you have 3 or is this a bug ?
kind fiber
Sounds like a bug, its supposed to give you +1 maximum lives in addition to the one it gives you right then
toxic compass
yes but it never appeard
it was there on the bar on the left but when i finshed the last encounter it vanished
and i didnt get any anything on top of my life bar
somber shard
"The best way to get Titan’s Blood and Diamonds on the first run through a game is to beat the Hydra with every weapon -- each weapon tracks rewards separately so this is a great way to get the initial set of 5 for Aspects or Upgrades you’re really eying. "
Does anyone here know/remember if this is mentioned anywhere within the game itself? I was reading this from the Q&A and was really surprised. I thought the blood/diamond rewards were completely random and didn't know there was any way to intentionally aim to get more of it. Which, in my mind, made getting the weapon variants seem extremely difficult. Was considering if this was worth bringing up in hades-feedback but maybe it's tutorialized and I missed it?
grand smelt
There's a picture of the weapon next to the reward on the transition map, that map shows if you've claimed the next reward with your current weapon, and when you get one of these rewards it says "bounty claimed, battled out of [area] with [weapon]"
woeful sage
Also, after you beat the game the first time it unlocks the "Pact of Punishment" which sort of refreshes your ability to earn Blood/Diamonds/Ambrosia at the cost of increasing difficulty.
somber shard
Ok, good to know! Not sure if anyone else would be confused like me, maybe I should've kept a more observant eye out haha. Thank you!
turbid needle
is support fire or burst shot better with slicing shot? hunting blades waiting room ofc but until then
turbid needle
ah i was hoping it'd proc on every damage instance
final fox
maybe once per enemy the slicing shot hits
woeful sage
That would've been insane if it triggered on every instance of damage. XD
I was equally disappointed when I discovered it only triggered on every throw with the Blitzdisc not every hit, but I guess it can't be good at everything. 😅
turbid needle
i mean yeah but it procs on every attack on the rail and that's pretty insane as well so yano
grand smelt
You have to stand there and fire the rail though
turbid needle
didn't get my hunting blades or any damage ups whatsoever, lost 2 dds on hydra and i'm now prepared to die in elysium, fun run haha yes happy thoughts
grand smelt
Suppoty Fire activates at the start of a cast, but with specials it activates only if it hits anything
turbid needle
first hammer in elysium is a joke and i want to talk to the manager
what happens when you die trying to enter a chaos gate?
final fox
you're not allowed to enter a chaos gate if it would kill you
turbid needle
dang
solid cairn
not using chaos egg every run smh
jolly parcel
not killing yourself in the opening hallway smh
actually...saying that i wonder what would happen
solid cairn
chaos shield look so much worse than normal ugh
jolly parcel
i'm laughing thinking about what the dialogue would be
solid cairn
it's possible
solid cairn
what I like about this game is that even on your first ever run nothing seems too daunting
floral scarab
Aye, they do a good job of having meaningful improvement on every run, without simply handing it to you.
turbid needle
okay so -
slicing shot, fully loaded, burst shot, hunting blades and a pressure points on top
i've somehow still got a dd
still in it
oh and the flurry cast to go along with all of it
unkempt pagoda
you've basically got the game finished already
turbid needle
did not have any damage until styx tho
lost all my dds before elysium and was lucky enough to meet petro
jagged pewter
god been trying a 32 heat run until my wrist hurts, never ever got the setup needed to kill hades, need big dmg but also a ton of mitigation or he will always nuke you down faster
turbid needle
lost two more on theseus
civic barn
losing two in asphodel and/or elysium is still recoverable
unkempt pagoda
hope for a well with kisses in them, but really
as long you're careful, hunting blades will win the game for you
turbid needle
nah i'm at hades rn
hoping not to get slapped by the omnilaser while i'm out of position
civic barn
until they add an extreme measures 4 to the list you definitely can avoid the final bosses' attacks easier than the previous two bosses right now
it took me a while to realize but you can sit on hades during omnilaser if that helps 🙂
turbid needle
i've been hiding in the little corner on the left
civic barn
that's a good spot if you can't dash to him before the attack starts
turbid needle
since the right block wall has messy collision detection
didn't know you could just sit on his face
civic barn
but for melee that attack is basically a free 2-3 seconds for smacking him
solid cairn
hydra and thesus/mino are the worst parts of the game
turbid needle
i've been having some issues with dashes and walls in elysium and the hades fight tho, kbm will do that to you ig
civic barn
1st stage final boss' laser is also a good chance to attack if you can dash right past him and kite
floral scarab
All depends on you. I had so much trouble with final boss
solid cairn
what would make this game so much better is if it cycled between 3 bosses randomly like the furies
turbid needle
ye, i'm gonna beat him nbd i've got 475 health or so to work with and absolutely insane dps
floral scarab
hydra never gave me trouble. And at least it does have different heads sometimes
solid cairn
it's annoying
turbid needle
going in cya in a bit
civic barn
yeah there are some spots where it feels like you can dash through but you can't; I feel like that's something they can improve on either by way of making it just easier to dash through, or make it more apparent by way of visual adjustments
solid cairn
and theseus blocking is such BS
turbid needle
i had terrible luck with the hydra this time around
all heads were the triple projectile kind
and i'm on stygian blade
with no damage at that point in my run
ok so my first six casts did about 30% of his hp
this is certainly a build
turbid arch
What cast?
turbid needle
i listed the relevant boons earlier
came really close to death because i'm extremely bad but he's extremely dead so who's laughing now
unkempt pagoda
the narrator
turbid needle
oh yeah nevermind i mean i've been absolutely clobbered
olive badger
I slipped on an exotic fruit once
I did a full speed build with Stygius' Zagreus aspect and Hermes buffs, now my 5 win streak is gone, but it was fun outrunning Asterius' bull charge
acoustic nova
Where do I report bugs? In the last fight, one of those beams of doom just went through the cover. They were at a weird angle, but they just clipped through the object
and I died
:V
olive badger
F10 in game
turbid needle
@floral scarab you can view your current boons while selecting a new one by pressing b by default