but its not really an active playstyle
#h1-builds-and-combat
wind vale
round summit
if you depend too much on your cast its terrible, since it wont do anything, but i think its nice if youre focusing damage on your weapon
guys what about duos?
untill now i got only two duos on all my runs, and i still have no idea how to get them without it being random
is there any way to get them without being just me hoping it appears?
wind vale
its quite random but you can help it a lot if you know which exist and what their requirements are
so basically get the requirements of the 2 gods asap and then try see them as often as you can and pray
the list on the gamepedia should be sufficiently up to date
rocky mica
I just calculated how much damage my cast-bow is doing. Answer: a lot.
turbid needle
tried it out and it did some heavy lifting against the hydra
round summit
oh yeah its really good in Elysium and Asphodel
it isnt really good in Tartarus but it does some damage at least
ruby creek
Just me or are the shield aspects a bit bleh?
high crow
rocky mica
The first isn't impressive sounding but damage reduction is just solid all around.
2nd can be pretty ok, does requires multiple levels. e.g. doom + stacking + couple shields
3rd is very underwelming and hard to use
unkempt pagoda
though it's not really what it's designed for, you can recall zeus shield instantly so it's really good with explosive return
rocky mica
random question time; I see a general getting can I turn off that other channels/servers keep making sound alerts of my window flash but still for the current one?
but can*
keep it still for*
wind vale
not really sure i understand the question but you can mute channels or servers (right click on them)
rocky mica
Yea, hoping there is/was automatic option for that.
wind vale
no idea - i just got every server muted
tall crypt
How do you get relative speed from hermes? Just luck?
wind vale
seems so
probably more likely if its not the first boon but i dont know any requirements
gloomy scroll
relative speed requires literally any other hermes boon
notably, it along with greater recall are his only higher tier boons, with GR not even having a prerequisite
crimson geyser
does anyone know what it means when i have the Bow hammer upgrade that makes my attack fire 3 shots in a spread, but when i charge up two of the arrow paths are colored red and only one is the usual white?
and not even the center one....lol
rocky mica
Better not be the powershot, that would make it suck. ;p
But I guess you can test that.
anyways
rocky mica
It's pretty bad anyway so I almost never take it. ;p
rocky mica
Even then its not like you'll hit em with all 3 shots reliably.
gloomy scroll
you'd be surprised
rocky mica
I tried so no. ;p to far spread to the side so you'll have stand near in em.
Too dangerious anyway if you want to charge aswell.
pulsar dirge
I hope this isn't a dumb question, but: is anyone else finding that the settings don't stick? It's a small thing, but I'm not a big fan of having the vibration on when I use my controller and every time I quit the game and start it up later the setting resets
rocky mica
no issue.
karmic coyote
indeed
abstract pilot
yup, you can have at most two
but you could go to a different room when you see hammer offered and still get two total
unkempt pagoda
rip to the days when you could get three
you can find your 2nd hammer in styx if you didn't get it in elysium
cosmic shadow
I was doing my first Hera bow run and it was going impressively well, but then I reached the final boss and realised I had basically no defensive capabilities at all and went down before even getting him to phase two
Really amusing thing though, I bet it works crazy well with the chaos boon for bonus stones
unkempt pagoda
get artemis's legendary too, then you're cooking
rocky mica
7 casts, last run, had 8 before. ;p
cosmic shadow
What was her legendary again
unkempt pagoda
then get lightning rod and scatter all your casts around the map, all doing 100 damage every 1.5 seconds
rocky mica
I think I 9 or 10 shot 'final boss'.
unkempt pagoda
fully loaded, +3 casts
cosmic shadow
Artemis definitely synergises well with it (she'd better, being the goddess of the hunt and all)
The second projectile
Reduced stone drop time etc
rocky mica
damage upon exit
tall crypt
7 casts, last run, had 8 before. ;p
but how? you only get 3 from artemis
unkempt pagoda
chaos
cosmic shadow
Chaos and maybe charon well item?
tall crypt
oh right
tall crypt
I forgot chaos gives permanent cast
blazing mulch
ahh good old times where i had like 15 casts haha
rocky mica
does bow 3rd work with double cast?
potent sentinel
what do you suggest for bow weapon aspect ? fist one crit % ?
rocky mica
Just instant 'double' hit then?
Well all are different/fun.
3rd prob has the most potential for damage.
unkempt pagoda
all cast related boons work with hera bow, cause it just changes where the cast is shot from
rocky mica
It's hard to tell sometimes with all the numbers and stuff dieing instantly.
blazing mulch
The Hera Aspect load Cast into your bow. This doesnt change how the cast work. Just change how you cast and the place where its casted as place where your arrow hit enemy
crude nebula
dont really see how its helpful
blazing mulch
Personally i love Chiron aspect ( the second one)
blazing mulch
Doom + doom damage per hit + athena duo which activate doom earier
900+ dooms damage
wind vale
this went pretty well https://imgur.com/a/RhhAJdv
it is so great knocking everyone around so much and all these effects 🙂
and i got to bring theseus down from his chariot just ramming him with poseidons call - just like he asked for
crimson geyser
prob a dumb question but, what's that thing above your leftmost boons, with 5 stars under it?
i feel like i'm just now noticing that
wind vale
its the legendary keepsake
rocky mica
special keepsake
crude nebula
spoilers
crimson geyser
ooo
rocky mica
keep playing, and do stuff
rocky mica
it will be a long time before you'll unlock some/all
Semi spoiler. I'm very unimpressed by em. ;p
limber relic
When do you unlock the ability to use the titan's blood on something other than the shop in the lounge?
crimson geyser
i already played Hades for 2 hours when i should have been working today soo, i guess i'm making that progress 😎
rocky mica
I've got 2, and they suck.
crude nebula
like 15-20
jolly parcel
when you become eligible for a duo boon, can you acquire said boon from either of the affected gods?
crude nebula
far as im aware, yes
limber relic
Also. Is there a specific trigger than allows me to gain the ultimate attack boons? I have it on one save but have yet to get it on another. The save I don't have it on has made it to Elysium.
jolly parcel
is there a trinket for a guaranteed hammer spawn?
crude nebula
nope
jolly parcel
pity
rocky mica
No but you'll get one in 4th area guaranteed if you haven't.
so that guaranteed in that sense
thats*
And you can visit shops as often as possible I guess.
jolly parcel
is it theoretically possible to get all the perks from hammers in a single run or is there a hard cap on hammers?
slow smelt
you find a hammer in area 1 or 2, and the other one in area 3
if you miss one, you can find both in area 3
2 seems to be the limit
btw, how are you building the stygius blade? even with nemesis aspect and with artemis blessings, seems kinda weak
this is the only weapon that i didn't beat the game yet
wind vale
with nemesis i would not focus on artemis
rocky mica
with 2nd you can actually make a decent poseidon build.
wind vale
while the crit chance stacks it seems better to take larger base damage with the innate crit
rocky mica
Poseidon can be a little damage lacking but you got crit now.
wind vale
so id recommend aphrodite a lot
jolly parcel
I just beat it last night with it. depended a lot on the dodge chance boon from Hermes and his keepsake
wind vale
hammers that modify the main attack are just great - world splitter/flurry blade just got buffed and are really strong
wind vale
it only got more damage
past thistle
flurry blade is super strong I think
wind vale
but i also think aphrodite and athena are a good idea - they also give nice defense in addition to high % damage
jolly parcel
is it possible to make a special focus build for coronacht? I can't help but feel like it's only purpose is to be a utility to spread debuffs and such
wind vale
the chiron aspect is that in a way - or do you mean without it?
slow smelt
I think it's bow 2
jolly parcel
bow
slow smelt
I beat with doom stack, pretty great
rocky mica
pretty versatile
slow smelt
I found it kinda meh with artemis
rocky mica
Doing a run now. Got weak on attack, epic doom on special, extra doom damage. Just need stacking doom.
wind vale
while specifically that got nerfed its still possible to stack enough to make it great
rocky mica
extra special shots ;p
wind vale
aphrodite on attack, artemis special, more shots, boost crits(duo and artemis alone)
and if you are somewhat lucky something from chaos
past thistle
beat the game for the first time with coronacht, had a build with more shots from the hammer, and then I had zeus' ability to make lightning strike when the special hit, and the other boon which makes those lightnings have a chance to strike again, and then the athena boon to take less damage, and I just got up close and spammed special for tons of damage
I had two chaos boons which increased special damage by about +50%
rocky mica
Playing good is great. Playing good and having good luck is unbeatable. ;p
rapid storm
Having Zeus's aid and Divine dash is umbeatable
civic barn
Hmm I actually don't understand why there's people saying nemesis aspect is weak
You basically get a base crit for nothing
rapid storm
They trying to use nemesis with artemis thats why
hybrid frost
Because everyone plays a little bit different?
civic barn
Artemis wouldn't be all that bad either right
Though having another effect is definitely nicer
wind vale
a drawback for is is that you sort of have to play the most dangerous playstyle of any base build i can see
wind vale
artemis crit on attack is 15%
civic barn
Fenix I'm just trying to understand the reasoning, you don't have to feel offended. That wasn't my intention and I'm sorry if it came out sounding that way
hybrid frost
@civic barn No, no. No offense taken. Just being brief. 🙂
civic barn
You can also get the third strike crit on a hammer
jolly parcel
is there a limit for the mirror skill that boosts rarity of boons? specifically the purple ones?
civic barn
Did the crit stack additively though?
wind vale
you can get the duo and base % from artemis without using her on the attack
wind vale
so you take aphrodite attack, athena dash and it plays itself
rapid storm
Insane*
rocky mica
In what pool do Pom's reroll too?
turbid needle
50% for rares, probs 25% for epic
civic barn
Rare caps out at 50% which I'm more sure
rapid storm
Yeh epic is 25
wind vale
yea 50% rare, 25% epic
civic barn
@rocky mica I think the pin message should still be right
The image graphic in this channel
rapid storm
But like can we all agree
wind vale
well - if you replace heat with gems
wind vale
why? id rather take any other
rapid storm
I literally plow hades in under 2 mins everytime i get zues aid
civic barn
Poseidon attack with wave dash and his wave and rupture boons made for a funny run but it was a bit lackluster against hades
wind vale
zeus buff after using call is huge tho
turbid needle
poseidon's knockback not affecting bosses really makes me want to avoid his boons
civic barn
I still prefer dionysus's aid against hades
turbid needle
which sucks because they're neat effects
civic barn
I agree
rapid storm
Dions is better alone but it doesnt synerguze with anything
wind vale
yea dionysus aid is great, especially with zeus buff after using call boon thingy
rapid storm
Zues can make his aid like twice as potent
rapid storm
U make it sound like getting more then 1 of the same god isnt common
civic barn
Dionysus aid has synergy with tipsy and I believe under influence? There's like two boons that work with that combination
And there's always the duo with aphrodite
wind vale
dio is also great as a one of - like if you have to take a god
civic barn
Yeah the effect is just strong on it's own right now
rapid storm
Honestly when i get stuck in a dio room i just pray for vintage
wind vale
which is why he is always better than zeus
civic barn
The nectar boon? That's good too but poison feels very strong right now. I hope they don't nerf it too hard next big update. Actually, have they nerf anything to significantly before?
rapid storm
Nectar boon is just so safe
wind vale
the sword special spam build
rapid storm
Ive never gotten nectar and ended a run sub like 350 hp
civic barn
Oh was that stronger before? Shane I didn't get a chance to try that
wind vale
lots of stuff
rapid storm
I find spear to be the most resident sleeper weapon
civic barn
Ok so there is a chance poison will get nerfed, good to know
wind vale
not too likely but always possible
rapid storm
Idk i dont find poison op tbh unless were talking with the shotgun
Even then shotguns the issue not poison
rapid storm
Like i said shotguns the issue
wind vale
no its good as it is
fast thicket
k if you want poison to be really good, then use it with Exagryph on that daedalus boon that makes it fire faster. Thing will make 5 stacks in a matter of seconds
rapid storm
Shotgun does it in 2 shots tho
wind vale
i prioritize explosive fire first but else yea
rapid storm
Why do i need firespeed
fast thicket
range
rapid storm
Lol range isnt needed tho this game isnt hard enough to play keepaway
fast thicket
what do you mean shotgun, do you mean that exagryph daedalus upgrade that makes it a shotgun or is there a new weapon
wind vale
that upgrade
rapid storm
The hammer upgrade
fast thicket
i have not used it yet
rapid storm
I cant bring myself to not pick it when its an option anymore
jolly parcel
does chaos have a boon for boosting gems?
wind vale
no - only poseidon
is that one room rewards only now or is it everything? - i mean since aphrodites hp gain boost got changed
jolly parcel
am I wasting nectar by giving them to people after I already have their keepsake or does it eventually lead somewhere?
jolly parcel
will it eventually get to a point where they won't accept anymore because I've hit the cap for that char or will they accept it indefinitely?
rapid storm
They have limits
ruby creek
haha I just beat my time record with a really goofy build
Stygian Sword, some attack and move speed boons and the Legendary Aphrodite that allows you to charm weakened targets along with her 'weaken targets you attack'.
Hades spent the entire time just chilling with a loveheart over his head.
harsh aspen
@ruby creek 'Cause nobody can resist the Goddess of Beauty 😄
crimson geyser
congrats!
fast thicket
For some reason Stygian blade with stacking doom, support fire, that thrust mod from Daedalus as well as 300%+ dmg vs armor from daedalus makes for a potent combo
also i got SUUUPER lucky to receive athena dash-reflect alongside a hermes +3 dashes boon
toxic tusk
Been thinking about something, is there a limit on the bonus damage of dire misfortune? I think probably it might, but I'm just curious
fast thicket
idk
mild crag
I don't think there is
fast thicket
but 5 dashes on the meelee weapons is CRAZY with dire misfortune because dash attacks sort of have no real recovery frames, making it really spammable
mild crag
When you reapply the doom it doesn't refresh the duration so you only have a limited time as it is to try your misfortune stacks
fast thicket
yeep
mild crag
Even with fire rate increased rail you'll probably get 10 shots at most in before it triggers
More if you have delayed doom ofc
toxic tusk
I was thinking about that. Impeding doom, dire misfortune and the rail might be a nice thing to see (probably not the best way to use the rail, but still neat)
mild crag
Yep it would be
Especially combined with another debuff
Then you get privileged status bonus too
Probably aphrodite's with sweet surrender
fast thicket
ima try out hera aspect bow and focus on a cast build
mild crag
Make it happen!
You can load multiple casts into an arrow FYI
Build your own rocket launcher
burnt rune
Wait, so Ares/Athena duo causes the doom damage immediately, instead of causing the status?
mild crag
If you hit an enemy with doom with a deflect it triggers it
mild crag
Typical use would be
burnt rune
much worse than expected
mild crag
Doom on attack, athena dash
kind fiber
Uhhhh
turbid needle
It's the second best boon in the game.
kind fiber
its amazing?
mild crag
Apply doom, dash, attack, dash
kind fiber
Its one of the highest dps boons you could ever want
works well with divine dash or Zeus aspect shield
mild crag
Do we have a boon tier list 
turbid needle
I should make one some time.
mild crag
Do et I'll read it
turbid needle
But a lot of people have different ideas, same with a theoretical weapons tier list.
grand smelt
I think it gets the bonus from Impending Doom without the extra time, too
kind fiber
it would be an S tier boon, unless theres some other criteria I'm not considering
mild crag
Also would be dependent on weapon
turbid needle
That is correct, Hiro.
turbid needle
Hunting Blades.
jolly parcel
what's the best synergistic boons for hunting blades
kind fiber
The Ares's legendary boon for +1 damage on every cast "hit"
mild crag
Hermes greater recall legendary
fast thicket
turns out hera bow aspect with +2 redstones from the mirror as well with the dionysus festive fog can take 25% of meg's health in one hit
kind fiber
The Artemis legendary boon of + 3 casts
mild crag
Hermes rapid fire cast boon
kind fiber
Yeah, thats an important one
Hera aspect bow and Poseidon aspect sword are two others
jolly parcel
is there a boon that gives poison on cast?
turbid needle
Quick Spin, Flurry Jab, or Explosive Launcher.
kind fiber
yes
burnt rune
oh
kind fiber
You don't even need that either tho
Its already one of the best boons in the game without it
burnt rune
I just got Misfortune and Impeding Doom
kind fiber
k
fast thicket
don't those cast stones come back to you after a while of not picking them up?
jolly parcel
are there boons that preclude you from rolling a specific other?
fast thicket
ok
cuz
i was fighting bone hydra w/ my hera bow and shot 4 stones in one load, and never saw them again, lost due to it
kind fiber
Okay
I haven't ever been in a situation where I couldn't reclaim them by waiting, but you can report it if you think it was a bug
jolly parcel
what's the appeal of loading casts into the bow? over the crit chance?
fast thicket
Well
kind fiber
@jolly parcel You can near instantly cast any number of casts, and spend 5 times less time casting while standing still
fast thicket
If you have the festive fog cast upgraded to +3, you can have +800 damage due to that with 4 cast stones
sooo
kind fiber
Thats something, its not even a best case usage of it
fast thicket
you can delete hydra shields
jolly parcel
so it seems like it's only worth it if the cast has a strong effect on it?
fast thicket
or any effect
kind fiber
If you can deal 150+ damage with a cast, then its extremely useful
450 damage for almost no effort
fast thicket
and if you maxed out cast stones in mirror you can rock things too
mild crag
@jolly parcel yes some boons stop you getting others, for example you can't get exit wounds if you have Ares or Dionysis cast
unkempt pagoda
you apply both the attack damage and cast damage at the same time on an enemy, can position your casts any way you want
kind fiber
The fact that you can do something that normally takes 4 seconds in a singular second is already a massive benefit
unkempt pagoda
i mean, if you're going hera one would assume you'd start building your cast as soon as possible
also pairs extremely well with the mirror upgrade that grants bonus damage to any enemy with a cast in it
jolly parcel
wait, you can stack casts in a single shot? like load 6 casts and shoot them all at the same time?
unkempt pagoda
yes
kind fiber
Yes
fast thicket
yes
jolly parcel
does the bonus from perfect charge apply to cast damage?
unkempt pagoda
and even if you don't manage to get a good cast build, it's still the bow so it's gonna be good
kind fiber
no
solar latch
omg i didnt realise that.
jolly parcel
if you stack casts into this shot, and you get a crit, does the crit apply to the entire damage stack?
kind fiber
No
unkempt pagoda
the attack and cast are still two separate instances of damage
kind fiber
Each one crits independently of the others
unkempt pagoda
hera just changes where the cast is shot from
most of the time the cast will hit where the attack hits
kind fiber
She doesn't wad them up into a singular spitwad, she just throws all the individual spitballs into her straw...... OF JUSTICE
ancient stag
Hey all quick question here from newbie, does your b ability (the one that is on every weapon, that red thingy that you throw and pick it up) has any other uses besides dmg, I find myself forgetting about that one and often feels redundant to use. I'm worried that I'm missing something, couldn't find anything on wiki tho
kind fiber
Its mostly for damage
Its called a bloodstone
You don't need to pick them up if you aren't really keen on using them in a given build but they have strong supports in the game that give them additional effects or make them stronger sources of damage
unkempt pagoda
@ancient stag it has good boon upgrades, and the mirror can provide more utility for it
ancient stag
Prolly on later stages with some upgrades could be useful. Didn't reach that far yet 😂
unkempt pagoda
it's another option for damage (and statuses with some gods) besides your attack and special, and if you can weave into your build you probably should
kind fiber
Casting bloodstones is a strong source of damage in the game if you find the proper supports for it
jolly parcel
does loading the casts with Dionysus effect with the fog eliminate that dumb arc?
kind fiber
yes
unkempt pagoda
i think one of the most important things about it is that you always have a ranged option
kind fiber
It just detonates on top of the first target you hit, or wherever the arrow stops traveling
mild crag
@jolly parcel yes they explode on contact
autumn tapir
I never thought to load Dionysus casts into the bow
that might make festive fog actually usable
mild crag
Festive fog was always usable
ancient stag
Thanks for the help fellas, gonna get back into the game
unkempt pagoda
👍
jolly parcel
if you get the boon that gives you a secondary shot per cast but half damage, does it apply?
kind fiber
Yes
glossy plaza
hmm, does the "No Choice" punishment always block out the ones you want to take?
this is like the 5th run back to back it blocks out my Hermes' extra dashes
crimson geyser
lol that would be an impressive feature
hack: want the ones you don't want
🤯
really tho, i just played through 2 full ares-focused runs just trying to get the one last boon of his i didn't have to complete his prophecy page (blade dash), and didn't get it at all throughout either run
and i was working with 3 choices a pop
jolly parcel
is it worth trading ambrosia for blood?
mild crag
no choice is cursed, it blocked out artemis attack for me 
@jolly parcel that's up to you, but blood is more abundant than ambrosia
for each heat level it's 2 blood, and 1 of each diamond and ambrosia
final fox
yes, but if i'm correct, you only need 4 ambrosia in the whole game
potentially 6, once the other 2 final relationship unlocks get added
and you need like 175-200 titan blood total to unlock all the weapon aspects
jolly parcel
what are the aspects not worth unlocking
gray plover
depends on what you enjoy tbh
mild crag
everything not Hestia
gray plover
I would unlock one of each because it's a prophecy
mild crag
fite me in tartarus
turbid needle
All of the others have fantastic builds possible.
final fox
i unironically like zag aspect for the rail
turbid needle
Then take that to level 5.
Play the way you want to, never let anyone tell you how to play.
gray plover
I accidentally levelled it up one when I first got introduced to aspects
and I prefer infinite ammo so... feelsbad
turbid needle
Look at it this way: Clear all weapons to 10 or 11 or so and you should have enough Titan Blood to easily max everything.
Or, if you can't beat the game with all weapons, take the ones you're better with and clear them as high as you can.
turbid needle
That's not as consistent, but it works.
gray plover
if you can't beat the game, yeah
the aspects don't really seem "necessary" to win. You're mostly after hammer upgrades I think
final fox
but some of the aspects are really incredibly good
Poseidon aspect of the sword is just insane
gray plover
ah I've never been very cast focused
glossy plaza
hammer upgrades are more consistent in some sense and take less effort to get to serviceable level
turbid needle
Aspects aren't necessary for 0 Heat, but I think they're absolutely necessary for high Heat.
gray plover
by high heat you'd have unlocked most stuff anyway so it's fine
glossy plaza
cast builds are fine but it doesn't get good fast enough, like say to the Hydra
mild crag
not taking a good aspect is just giving yourself a disadvantage
jolly parcel
so when you get to the temple, charron is selling, from what I can tell, either a diamond or blood. Is that something he does every time? is there a limit to how many you can buy?
turbid needle
I've had Hunting Blades before the Fury fight.
gray plover
I've never had enough gold to buy one, I prefer to go for the buffs on offer
turbid needle
It is limitless, LygerXero. It changes run-to-run, but it's always there.
gray plover
I try and buy every buff I come across leading up to there, idk how much money everyone else ends up with by the end
mild crag
i rarely buy from charon on the way
i save for Styx or death defiance recharges from the wells if i'm havin a bad go
gray plover
do you not end up with a lot of buffs then?
mild crag
or if im really hurt ill go to the shop in elysium or somewhere and buy the heart and the heal
i end up with enough
gray plover
on high heat?
mild crag
yes
gray plover
I'll try being a bit stingy with my gold next time~ :p
mild crag
lol
gray plover
I usually avoid gold rooms though
mild crag
if i'm low on money by styx i just buy out his boons
so probably not much different buying on the way
just also makes it hard playing with convenience fee
usually dont have enough to get anything early
i should try to avoid miniboss rooms more
gray plover
I always worry about getting to the end and not having enough stuff
turbid needle
Hey, sometimes you get dropped into the Barge of Death from a shop with one exit.
mild crag
yeah that's how it keeps happening and it's just a poor judgment call to go into the shop in the first place
should be a second boat to go home
turbid needle
One way to look at it.
gray plover
technically that boat does take you home... if you want it to 👀
muted pier
Is deathboat such a problem? i have much bugger problems with the frikking Gorgon
gray plover
deflect tho
turbid needle
There are a LOT of enemies, most of them with armor, on the Middle Management Barge of Death.
turbid needle
Voidstones?
turbid needle
Yeah, they make everything a lot worse.
gray plover
invisible dudes?! i've never seen them 👀
mild crag
@gray plover 
turbid needle
You know what's not fun? Chiron Aspect when Voidstones are in the middle of a crowd.
mild crag
you cower under athena's the voidstone's shield!?
fast thicket
Barge can be easy if you focus on wallbangs. Wallbangs are really good when you combine them with Poseidon's boon that increases wallbang damage, and you can eradicate things pretty easy with that
muted pier
for that extra bit of ******* u little blue ****
fast thicket
final fox
cast builds are fine but it doesn't get good fast enough, like say to the Hydra
the thing about Poseidon aspect is that it makes even mediocre cast builds great, because you don't have to wait 15 seconds to get your gems back
just press y
fast thicket
Me when i hit something into a wall
gray plover
does that also stop fog/rift?
turbid needle
Nope.
final fox
you can dump your 300-ish damage worth of casts, then hit special and just do it again
no, it only works on casts that embed the gem
turbid needle
Those time out normally.
gray plover
oof
mild crag
no onli dislodge
turbid needle
Exit Wounds. ❤️
mild crag
poseiden aspect with exit wounds 
gray plover
scary
final fox
first time i ran a poseidon build I got artemis's +3 gem legendary boon and exit wounds
so that may have biased my view of it
teal wren
so far I got enough blood to max out a second aspect(after chaos shield of course), so I'm thinking hestia or hera?
mild crag
Hestia
teal wren
60% extra damage from eris seems good too
turbid needle
Hestia is good!
mild crag
well hestia is bestia
gray plover
or is it
jolly parcel
What's your tier list for weps as it stands now?
gray plover
flurry shot upgrade for bow > any rail. fight me
glossy plaza
shield is meh, I still don't understand why people rank it so high ngl
mild crag
@gray plover 
gray plover
20 minutes :c
turbid needle
I'm under 15 with an Eris run.
mild crag
its rated high cause it's safe
gray plover
I can't high heat yet though. That was like 2.
median ridge
total blocking of all attacks is why
turbid needle
Yes, shield is ranked so high because it has crazy defense.
glossy plaza
what is defense, you just take more dashes and get gud lmfao xD
turbid needle
Block is still better than even 6 dashes.
jolly parcel
when I first saw shield I thought it was gonna have a parry mechanic or something
teal wren
then you work on memorizing them :p jk
gray plover
I looked on twitch and thought there'd be people playing high heat but they're all new
mild crag
you can memorise them by watching with shield
glossy plaza
block doesn't kill btw
turbid needle
Gives you more opportunities to kill.
teal wren
your 5 spinning balls of death kill tho
mild crag
it makes you not kill
final fox
of course they're all new, the game just came out 😛
glossy plaza
I'd rather take a multi-skewer Spear and not having to aim xD
mild crag
no internet so the people can't see my hestia propaganda
glossy plaza
that's how I got through a 28 heat run
mild crag
glossy plaza
want to push to 32 next time
gray plover
no internet... 🤔
mild crag
does anybody here play on Hell?
glossy plaza
me o/
gray plover
oof
jolly parcel
how significant is the pact condition where bosses get more moves?
glossy plaza
more moves doesn't really matter except for the Hydra imo
turbid needle
Supposedly, we're getting a 32 Heat video on Friday.
mild crag
hydra extreme measures is EXPLETIVE
turbid needle
Asterius' spin move is terrifying.
jolly parcel
yeah, extreme measures
mild crag
so i just play extreme measures level 1
gray plover
I guess each point is per boss?
jolly parcel
oh, I thought it was level 1 each boss gets 1 extra move, lvl 2 each gets 2 extra, etc
mild crag
its easier to see for yourself than to try to explain how it changes the fights
since they change pretty significantly
other than the furies fight
it just ||adds additional furies which occasionally appear to attack you too||
gray plover
think I been playing too much, but I just wanna get through the content before the next update..
playing catch up since I never played when it was in the other client
mild crag
it's addictive, don't let it distract you from other things you gotta do!
jolly parcel
yeah, like breathing
gray plover
thanks for reminding me, I went blue for a second there
I'm playing too much by my own standards. Usually I can't put this much time into a game unless it's coop
mild crag
Blood and darkness!
mild crag
jolly parcel
the god specific keepsakes, does it give you a guaranteed encounter with the chosen god each biome or is it useless after the first one?
crimson geyser
i interpret that it's useless after the first time you get their boon with the keepsake equipped
mild crag
after the first one, it only has the increased rarity effect
mild crag
so not useless, but less useful for sure
turbid needle
is there any good way to get gems or do you have to grind them 5 at a time?
and don't tell me poseidon boon i stg
There are Troves for 75 gems.
gray plover
I trade the keys, too, but that's only 10 gems for 5
turbid needle
yeah but you have to upgrade troves first and that's another 150 when the contractor isn't just three colored drapes
chilly abyss
Troves+Poseidon but they don't stack. Elites also give double
gray plover
150 is the first upgrade I think, and then it's 300
turbid needle
yikes
gray plover
I can't afford that yet :c
at least it's not... 5000
I think chaos also gives a boon for it
turbid needle
They do not.
gray plover
ah, that's jsut for darkness/gold nvm :c
fervent mural
i jsut had a infernal trove containg 75 gems. (area 2) is that normal? or was that somehow spezial? seems like a lot to me
civic barn
it happens
cosmic dawn
If you give up on a run do you lose your victory streak?
I know the streak isn't a big deal since it doesn't do anything (I think), but I'm curious
hybrid frost
No. "Give Up" doesn't count as loss.
latent slate
So do I just need to unlock that last weapon to be able to use titan's blood?
cosmic dawn
I don't have perfect memory but I don't think I was instantly able to use Titan's blood after unlocking all of the weapons
maybe attempt a single run with each is the requirement?
hybrid frost
Do you have the Pact of Punishment unlocked?
latent slate
yes
hybrid frost
You may have to unlock the last weapon and then make a successful run.
cosmic dawn
I was able to use Titan's blood before beating the final boss though
so winning the game isn't what's needed
unless I somehow encountered a bug of some sorts
that unlocked Titan's blood use early
hybrid frost
Hmm, I'm not sure. I completed the early game before the current build.
cosmic dawn
I started playing rather recently (after the Steam release) so my experiences are based off of the latest build
stray gazelle
To adjust weapons you need to unlock all weapons then play another run. Once you get back to the practice oom you can adjust any currently equiped weapon
hybrid frost
Ah, okay. Just make a run win or lose.
stray gazelle
Yep
latent slate
I haven't been going for keys ever so I guess I'll do a run for that first thanks
latent slate
I guess I was hoping the game would force me to choose keys more but I never use cast so the next mirror unlocks didn't entice me
hybrid frost
Cast are something I had to grow into. Never used them my first 65 runs or so either.
abstract burrow
hmm tbh wish we can downgrade/re alocate titan blood like with darkness
mild crag
you will learn to love cast when you have boiling blood
hybrid frost
👆 
grand smelt
Fully refunding Titan's Blood doesn't work, you can take every darkness ability at once (barring Budget Cuts), but you only use one Aspect a run.
mild crag
agreed, as soon as you get enough titan blood to upgrade one weapon fully you never need any more again
abstract burrow
well i got the shiled upgrade that replace the bounceing shield eff and now it just kinda sucks
leaden pine
I see now why you all rate the gun so highly
I got a special build going and it's pretty insane damage
gaunt quarry
i am a new player. is the bow actually the strongest weapon? the explosive upgrade just tears things apart
final fox
Explosive bow is pretty good but there are plenty of other weapons that are just as good with similar hammer upgrades
and there are aspects to weapons that you haven't unlocked yet, that are pretty crazy good in and of themselves
So wait for a bit until you decide which weapon you like the best
gaunt quarry
the spear is also good but I like ranged more, ok thank you
kind fiber
The sword's dash boon is amazing, the shield can pull off some a mean poseidon build and some charge hit and run shenanigans, and the railgun can blow up groups of enemies pretty easily
You could probably use the other weapons some more to figure out what their strengths are, but if the bows your thing, then you do you man
jolly parcel
weird, i heard a gasp when i drank from the fountain in the satyr storage room. does that mean anything?
gaunt quarry
the aspects for the bow are pretty bad/useless as I can tell from the wiki page
kind fiber
The hera aspect is pretty great
I don't feel good about the other one but other people liked it
leaden pine
I like the Hera aspect from what I've seen of it
kind fiber
@jolly parcel It means that Zagereus is having a hard time keeping it down
gaunt quarry
the aspects for the gun are amazing however
mild crag
he sort of chokes that one down lol
leaden pine
Do you all prefer more casts, or stronger casts when building a cast-centric build?
kind fiber
both?
gaunt quarry
more casts cause I tend to miss them)
kind fiber
Like you start with making your cast stronger, but once the cast is strong enough to be a primary option, then having more of them makes it alot better
leaden pine
right so given the choice of two at the start of a run, you'd choose stronger casts
makes sense
kind fiber
If you pick up the 88% faster attack speed for your casts, having more casts becomes alot more useful
mild crag
I'd choose more casts because those are rarer boons
There's a few ways to make your casts strong but getting more of them isn't usually offered much
leaden pine
oh this is a ||chaos|| boon choice
kind fiber
stronger casts
kind fiber
as a chaos boon choice, a strong upgrade on cast damage is better than + 1 cast
mild crag
But that's limited so I don't count it
gaunt quarry
This whole thing with boons reminds me heavily of transistor
I mean the progression system
kind fiber
Yeah somewhat
burnt rune
more I play Hera bow
the more I think none of the hammer upgrades really help it
explosive is always nice and sniper is kinda neat I guess? that's like 1.5 option out of a dozen
though that may be true for cast builds in general? dunno
kind fiber
Explosive seems like the best
and you pick the other ones assuming they have 0 impact on how your casts deal damage and just simply as an improvement to your normal attack if you were to spam it
gaunt quarry
Explosive bow is strong as I said already
kind fiber
yep
gaunt quarry
You can fire from half a map away and kill guys
jolly parcel
does the heart with a clock in it mean no more until future updates?
burnt rune
yeah, explosive is good for any build
the point is that it's a big gamble to go for it
kind fiber
Doesn't feel like a gamble
burnt rune
none of the special upgrades help Hera, nor does Triple shot, nor double shot
gaunt quarry
Your entire build kinda depends on random in the first place
burnt rune
@jolly parcel yep
gaunt quarry
If you don't get cast boons, you can't go for cast build and so on
burnt rune
it's significantly harder to not get any cast boon after one entire biome than to get 1 specific hammer upgrade though
gaunt quarry
And bow special is kinda crappy, because it's really inaccurate and also you don't quite often end up fighting up close
burnt rune
bow special is for Chiron fun, but yeah
gaunt quarry
Best special is probably the gun
kind fiber
I dislike the chiron aspect
burnt rune
eh, best special to me is spear
gun is stronger but I just dislike using it in general
kind fiber
well the zeus aspect shield special while clunky offers amazing dps
gaunt quarry
I once got the ability to fire gun special thrice in a row. Was fun
kind fiber
yeah, thats great
burnt rune
my first finish was triple rockets, that is fun
hybrid frost
I think you mispelled "awesome" as s-t-u-p-i-d. 
steel shoal
dire cedar
I find the Theseus extreme measures fight to b e easier than the normal fight. am i weird?
dire cedar
I was on bow each time, but I was just kiting out Minos and ignoring Thesues entire fight
turbid needle
So Deadly Flourish, Vicious Skewer, and Hades Aspect is fun.
ruby creek
Can basic resource chambers be changed into a good boon?
Or do they just cycle through the resources?
So like Darkness to a Ares Boon?
frosty pier
Click on pinned messages in this channel there is a quick guide to rerolls
ruby creek
Thanks
karmic coyote
Railgun with poison on attack and Artemis support fire is disgusting, completely melt everything, killed Theseus before he finished his gods barrage
turbid needle
Deleting Theseus when he's standing there like a turkey in rain is top five feelings in this game.
karmic coyote
what are the other 4
ruby creek
Petting Cerberus
turbid needle
Beating the final boss, consummating relationship with Meg (or Than, if you feel that way about him), petting Cerberus^, walking into Eurydice's room.
mild crag
You forgot firing an empowered Hestia Aspect shot
karmic coyote
wow not include hearing Hades dad joke
wind vale
hmm - one small thing i just noticed when thinking which keepsake to switch to - the coin purse is not affected by increased gold gains but it is affected by the curse that prevents you from gaining gold
sort of inconsistent
limpid tapir
I'm torn. Should I rank up Zeus aspect or Chaos aspect on shield?
Neither I particularly love over the other right now, but wanted one aspect ranked up for use.
kind fiber
Zeus aspect is alot better as I understand
wind vale
chaos benefits from levels, zeus doesnt really
karmic coyote
i would go for Chaos shield
kind fiber
Its clunky, but it has high damage output and can frequently apply powerful boon effects
limpid tapir
I've been using Blitz with Ares Doom procs, otherwise haven't been too impressed with what it does.
It's honestly a little finicky, considering I'm constantly bouncing around after recalling the shield to drag it through enemies. Heard a lot of good from both sides, Chaos with good up front burst and Zeus for boon application
wind vale
zeus is more to apply debuffs and the damage of the disc doesnt really matter - chaos needs more shields in quite a few cases
limpid tapir
Makes sense, Chaos it is. Thanks!
I can't really tell how to use Chaos though.
Constantly Bull Rush into shield throw?
turbid needle
Yup.
kind fiber
i guess, yeah....
limpid tapir
Against single targets the shields seem to struggle to land all on the same target unless you're literally closer than melee range.
At least it's decent at softening up crowds
turbid needle
Nah, it's really not that bad to land.
wind vale
at least often - i use the shield throw either to apply poison or doom
turbid needle
Dash in, throw, dash out.
wind vale
there is sort of a limit to how many you need
turbid needle
Use it with Blight Flourish, you'll see lots of stacks consistently.
limpid tapir
Hm. Will do, going for a run now
wind vale
have to say - really think dread flight hammer adds quite a lot
even if there arent as many targets it helps the shields to maybe still hit targets they would otherwise miss and usually returns faster
woeful sage
Is the shield's ability to block attacks too good?
limpid tapir
I didn't realize shield throw homes in on the return.
Saw 3+ Chaos shields arc into one Wavemaker way off course, like 90 degrees or so. And I wouldn't say it's too good; shield by default doesn't have the things like Cast spam from Hera bow/Poseidon sword, or obscene damage steroid of Hades spear
It's good for facetanking Hades, and all things considered, shield autoattacks aren't that impressive unless you're cornering or wallbashing someone (which doesn't work on bosses since they can't get knocked back)
late basalt
do you get multiple counts of wall slam damage if you have poseidon's cast and attack boons with hera bow?
limpid tapir
Are they getting knocked back multiple times?
If not likely only once afaik. Things like Second Wave (knockback effects proc twice) are really good for wall slam spam.
late basalt
just got offered second wave aswell as his cast. using artemis cast rn
guess i should take the legend while i can
limpid tapir
Oh def. A lot of legendary boons are gamechanging
For example, I got Quick Reload from Arty for 3s before bloodstone drops, 250 damage Aphrodite cast, then Arty offered me her legendary Fully Loaded which is +4 casts
7 casts * 250 damage per + 120 or so damage bow = Hades lost over 1.8k HP per shot
ruby creek
Do you lose access to duo boons if you purge on of the prerequisite boons?
frosty pier
Yes.
ruby creek
Dang it
wind vale
you cant get them anymore but you can still use them if you already have them
frosty pier
If you didn't delete half of the synergy that is.
wind vale
many dont need one side at all(sometimes even both)
ruby creek
Thats what I mean
I can still use them?
So like the Dinysus & Neptune boon
That gives buffs on rarity.
wind vale
yes they still work
frosty pier
That one time I deleted Ares's cast on accident with hunting blades present still fastest Alt+F4 in my life
ruby creek
XD
Holy crap I lucked out this playthtough
I got 2 duos. 1 legendary. And the perfect combination of Zeus and Neptune.
Chiron aspect on the bow and +4 arrows on the special from Daedulus.
ruby creek
Man I wish I could link an image, those boons were nuts.
unborn trellis
maybe the game could benefit from a run history screen like Slay The Spire
ruby creek
Its got the screen at the end you can screenshot. Which I think is great, but yeah a history linked to the scrying mirror would be cool.
unborn trellis
StS also remembers what rooms you chose and what you gained in them and how much life you left with
inland marsh
why its so hard to ues the legendary keepsake ,||its toooooo slow to hit any one,tho it has high damage(like Mort)||
frosty pier
3k damage out of nowhere is still a 3k damage. That's a fully charged Aphro Call on a button just sitting there. There must be a trade off.
inland marsh
no one cound suffer 3k damage except boss.However,all the boss will be unbreakable once suffer enough damage(less than 3k),3k seems redundant
a more controllable summon might be better
iron shale
is there any logic in how to get duo and legendary boons ?
or is it just memorize the combinations ?
frosty pier
Some are really specific, some can have minor variations. But Yeah mostly memorised combinations.
ruby creek
@frosty pier Hey I just realised I didnt see gems on the pinned post.
I assume they are just basic resources?
Thanks for the link btw.
frosty pier
Image is 2 updates old, I think, but still holds.
tall crypt
I've heard you guys like festive fog, so I've got 12 of them
https://i.imgur.com/sP6Oocq.png
frosty pier
Did it look like a cartoon bar-fight all the way to the end?
tall crypt
well, I can say that I couldn't dodge Hades attacks, because I couldn't see them telegraphed
wish I had thunderdome tho
frosty pier
And still only 1 dd used, not that bad.
tall crypt
whats a dd?
frosty pier
Death defiance
tall crypt
I was just sitting on hades and as I've said, I couldn't really see his attacks under that thicc fog
2nd phase melted though
I think, that I can use 50% enemy speed, just so the boss phases could be a little faster
that's what speedrunners do anyway
ruby creek
How many Ambrosias do you need total? Isn't there only ||like four characters that you can give it to?||
gray plover
I'm not sure exactly, but you can use them to upgrade certain things too
gray plover
...52?! 52?! oh man now that's all I can think about, you no good 52ing...
tall crypt
you can't give ambrosia to other chars, right?
gray plover
no but you can keep giving it to those ones
ruby creek
Oh wow. Thanks. I thought I only needed like 5 was going to sell it all off XD
How do trinkets and amborsia interact?
unborn trellis
they are at the bottom of the case
with different unlock conditions
they only become available later on, dont worry about them
chilly summit
Does anyone else find tipsy shot with rapid fire utterly hilarious?
static skiff
So, with the hestia aspect, as long as you press R yourself, even if you are at 0 ammo, you still get the empowered shot...interesting.
mild crag
technically a manual reload still i suppose
wind vale
hmm - i was originally planning to use aphrodites keepsake https://imgur.com/a/G4CGxs2
but now i cant decide
doom with crits is so great already and i am still hoping for impending doom(and maybe dire misfortune)
wooden spade
Folks who keep suggesting a way to set the first room - the various god keepsakes do that, to a degree
ruby creek
I dont know y'all can play the game without some sort of damage mitigation or sustain keepsake
ruby creek
I love the spear
gray plover
but I'm "low rank"
wind vale
hp is damage mitigation - and keepsakes for survival com in styx
unborn trellis
damage is damage mitigation
kill them before they kill you
wind vale
also moving/action speed
gray plover
just don't get hit 4head
the spearhead rewards bad tactics, though. Because you don't need to move after you take damage really. So now if I ever don't use it, I'm getting hurt more than I was before
unborn trellis
@jagged pewter wait is the infographic pinned here outdated? you should be able to reroll gold into a boon
jagged pewter
i have occasionally rerolled gold into a boon yeah, never darkness/keys/centaur hearts/etc. though
unborn trellis
it says centaur hearts and poms should also be rerollable into a boon
wind vale
it says they both can(gold and heart) and thats correct
only heat should be replaced with gems - else its correct
wind vale
oh and new image for the keys but not like thats important
ruby creek
What boons do you try and grab on the shield? I know everyone raves about it but I'm honestly not a huge fan.
wind vale
kinda depends what you are playing
i like doom on special, or poison with chaos shield
and then combine however i can
lots of poseidon is also fun
ruby creek
Maybe Im just being unlucky with the boons then.
gilded eagle
How do I unlock legendary keepsakes? Ive got the hearts all the way up on characters, but no interaction
ruby creek
All enemies seem to have some gold on them yeah? So does upping the number of enemies via the Pact of Punishment give you more of a gold income?
untold wedge
I had poison earlier and it was super strong on the shield
I didn't realise poison stacked till then
velvet jewel
Is there a way to check your current gifts during a run? Some of them upgraded but I don't know what ones
nevermind found it in the settings
kind fiber
@gilded eagle You can't progress until you get an event involving one of the 4 characters involved with your keepsakes, theres a possibility that you got an event for thesesus and didn't realize how to proceed with it
subtle shale
so I knew the pact thing that boosts enemy damage was potent
but I didn't expect to walk over one of those green jars in the final fight and get literally one shot
native ether
the spearhead rewards bad tactics, though. Because you don't need to move after you take damage really. So now if I ever don't use it, I'm getting hurt more than I was before
Spearpoint is powerful more because of how it provides its resistance.
Most of Styx specifically is lots of bursts of damage in rapid succession (poison and lasers and crawlers). Spearpoint prevents you from taking high damage by preventing you from being bursted.
It's also the best keepsake for the final boss cause honestly cause the final boss can combo hit you with just about every attack, and ruin a run easily if you do get combo hit.
I'd say it less rewards bad tactics (cause you're gonna move anyways after taking damage) but it enables much more aggressive play in harder biomes.
All enemies seem to have some gold on them yeah? So does upping the number of enemies via the Pact of Punishment give you more of a gold income?
Yes, I believe so.
gilded eagle
@kind fiber how do you recognize the event? Is it a task to complete or does it appear during a run?
kind fiber
@gilded eagle It appears between runs and during runs, depending on the person in question
native ether
For some it's more obvious than others
There's not one for every character though.
Sometimes you also have to do a task for the character as well
gilded eagle
I know, I got susyphus and skelly to max, but nothing
native ether
Do you have aspects unlocked?
gilded eagle
What do you mean?
native ether
The Weapon Aspects
gilded eagle
Oh weapon upgrades? Yeah I do
native ether
you need them to start Skelly's, he should prompt you eventually. And you need repeated visits with Sisyphus to trigger the right dialogue chains to start his 'quest'.
It's definitely random-ish. Took me quite a few runs.
gilded eagle
Okay I'll just keep trying, thanks!
ruby creek
Question: What heat is everyone on and roughly whats your % success rate running a dungeon?
plain birch
ruby creek
Feel great doesnt it?
dire cedar
I can only do high heat on Chiron bow. Did 8, 9, and 10 heat last night. Sometimes I chill and do low heat and farm for diamonds at Temple Styx on another weapon
gilded eagle
Has anyone found a consistent way to get gems? Rewards help, but idk how I'll get to 2k gems for some upgrades
hexed pine
is there a way to make the Blitz Disc not feel extremely underwhelming compared to the normal shield throw?
gilded eagle
In my experience it becomes a lot better with boons
final fox
doesn't blitz disc proc the boon every time it hits?
atomic panther
Poseidon's boon that drops a bunch of rewards will also drop gems
It's not a lot, but it's still helpful
And yes, it does
final fox
so just slap zeus boon on the zeus shield
atomic panther
It also goes up to a base of 30 damage, as opposed to the 15 of a normal shield throw
final fox
and get 40-50 AoE damage every time the disc hits
subtle shale
Blitz Disc with Dio or something just deletes maps
I had a build with Dio Blitz Disc and Ares blender cast
The Ultimate Blender
atomic panther
This is what I get for not reading patch notes, I guess. But apparently World Splitter got buffed again so brb while I go chop some shades
subtle shale
Unfortunately the ultimate blender died to hades’ green jars of murder cuz I had enemy damage pact on and I didn’t expect to just instantly take 150 damage from them
vivid crag
congrats :)
boreal hinge
lel i just got the dual boon Dyonisos / Zeus.... its é=é quite op
atomic panther
Just got a crit for 886 damage and I'm only in Tartarus
I'm having the time of my life
solid cairn
is it just me or is adamant rail really bad
also what aspect of the blade is your favorite
atomic panther
Previously it was Poseidon, but Eris is really proving itself to me
Also, the Rail is probably my second favorite weapon atm
final fox
Rail is great
atomic panther
Max Zagreus aspect + Flurry Fire gives you 30 ammo and a super fast fire rate
Plus Hermes? It's ridiculous
final fox
You can continue to dash and move while reloading the rail. Your dash attack fires a double shot. So using the rail's attack is about dashing around a lot, getting the double shots and reloading while mobile. The special will similarly reload while you're moving and firing, you can fire it again immediately after it lands.
solid cairn
blade is my favorite weapon
final fox
The rail has some of the best daedelus upgrades in the game. Spread shot is a 5x multiplier on your attack damage in a way that multiplies with boon percentage damage boosts rather than adds. Triple Bomb is a 3x multiplier on your special damage, again in a way that multiplies with boon percentages. Inescapable blast is great crowd control, and stacks with triple bomb.
solid cairn
shield is also cool
little grotto
eternal stag
🤔 they should? iirc?
willow abyss
Is it natural for me to continually think about my next hades run whenever I’m not playing hades
green birch
yes
willow abyss
Haven’t cleared it yet ... got to what I presume is the last encounter
Rail gun is my fav but I like the spear too
green birch
what boss were you at?
willow abyss
Hades
willow abyss
I’m starting to be able to consistently get far even without my preferred boons
It’s so rewarding learning the mechanics of each encounter type
Honestly just amazed as to how smooth the gameplay feels
steep sentinel
The smoothness is why I like it so much
willow abyss
Even though it was platform based, the combat feel reminds me a lot of hollow knight
solid cairn
I always get to hades but have no defies left
willow abyss
Same
turbid needle
willow abyss
I can’t handle the butterfly things
solid cairn
Man's quest to escape the underworld ended by butterflies
also, I gifted Skelly 6 nector and it won't let me give him the 7th
turbid needle
the elite butterfly ball can be a pain depending on your setup but i haven't had any difficulties with the normal ones, what's your issue w/ them?
solid cairn
lots of health
turbid needle
check your codex to see whether the next heart is locked or gated by an event
solid cairn
I think it was locked
turbid needle
then you're gonna have to wait until a future patch expands his story
solid cairn
what is ambrosia for
turbid needle
high end relationships ||than, meg, sisy||
willow abyss
The health and honestly I am colorblind and the general color scheme of elysium makes it hard to see the butterflies at times.
turbid needle
maybe others, i haven't explored everything yet
that's fair, accessibility options would be nice, there is a lot of color coded critical information
willow abyss
Most games have given me problems with stuff like that but this game is pretty good about accessibility. Except this one thing
solid cairn
turbid needle
#hades-feedback actually
ruby creek
Whats your favourite Aegis Daedulus upgrade?
solid cairn
the shield weapon?
ruby creek
Yeah
solid cairn
this is gonna sound dumb, but explosive return
kind fiber
Probably either dashing wallop or the charging upgrades
oh
right
and explosive return
its really amazing
rain delta
I would love it if the Elysium Archers and Theseus arrow indicators were a little more obvious.. I'm not sure if it's because it's pink on Zag's mostly red frame. But I wish the indicator was maybe bigger? Or perhaps yellow so it can be easier to notice. It seems to be the only interation in the game I find myself missing.
turbid needle
dread flight or charged shot so far
kind fiber
especially with the zeus aspect shield
turbid needle
explosive is great as well
kind fiber
Does explosive return work with the chaos aspect shield?
solid cairn
favorite sword daedalus?
cruel thrust with nemesis aspect
flurry slash with nemesis as well
turbid needle
haven't done many runs with it so far but double special seemed great
solid cairn
I love the sword but only nemesis
turbid needle
i don't really see the point of poseidon's
pastel jolt
poseidon's sword aspect?
pastel jolt
it's useful on cast builds
particularly for bosses
it means you don't have to wait for the bloodstones to drop on their own, and it gets even better if you have exit wounds
turbid needle
sure fair enough but that's p specific