#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 225

ornate tartan Mar 13, 2019, 4:07 PM

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the gauge bar, can be charged by dealing damage or taking damage

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also it resets at the end of the encounter

subtle shale Mar 13, 2019, 4:09 PM

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the new patch is interesting because before, I'd always prefer Murderboat to Megagorgon unless I had deflect

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now, Megagorgon is much better and thanks to Wave Makers, Murderboat is more like Thanos Snap Boat

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Damn, didnt get bigger Rifts

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I did get Succ rifts though

somber epoch Mar 13, 2019, 4:19 PM

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succ rifts is p good

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Oh wow

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Thanatos is so unfair

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He can mark skullcrushers when they ascend

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And kill them abovre

hazy bluff Mar 13, 2019, 4:37 PM

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I feel that aphrodite's wrath is pretty useless, seriously I don't need charm, also with Artemis's wrath too - disadvantage when compare with Ares or Poseidon.

grave wing Mar 13, 2019, 4:40 PM

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honestly, I thought Aphro's Wrath was nice - it also affects Bosses and makes them not Aggro you, so you can even do it on the main Hydra head and just whale at it safely

hazy bluff Mar 13, 2019, 4:41 PM

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ya, I know, but somehow you know, we prefer to destroy them as fast as we want, that's why I dislike aphro except reflect dmg build 😄

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currently in new updates, I like Zeus's wrath + Zeus dash, both with double-strike boons

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It's so cool (and overpower too)

grave wing Mar 13, 2019, 4:43 PM

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that's fair, I haven't tried all of them yet, just thought Aphro's was a useful and to me even fun way to play it - I like the moment of respite it gives me, but yeah, it might not be as good in the excitement department

regal nexus Mar 13, 2019, 4:46 PM

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It just seems like a flat downgrade to Athena wrath

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Invincibility + deflect while active vs a single enemy not attacking you and rarely dealing a bit of damage to other enemies

hazy bluff Mar 13, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I will take a try for aphro with another weapon, maybe bow or railgun.

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btw, I played few runs (8~10), only see 3 duo: Athena + Artemis, Ares + Aphrodite, Zeus + Poseidon. Do they only have for some specific combinations?

somber epoch Mar 13, 2019, 4:57 PM

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i know 2 others

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dio/aphro and ares/arty

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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they gives you only 1 duo boon right?

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like ares+arty gives you only the seeking blade-rift

hazy bluff Mar 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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My info:

Athena + Artemis: After reflect, there're 2.5s for critical strike (all attacks)
Ares + Aphrodite: Attack weakend foes will refresh cursed damage
Zeus + Poseidon: Every knock-back attack also deal lightning damage to them

proud storm Mar 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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arty/athena, ares/arty, zeus/poseidon, zeus/dio, aphro/dio

tender zephyr Mar 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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How do you post screenshots?
I finally managed to beat Thantos with a whopping 26 to 2.

proud storm Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 PM

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aphro/dio makes weak enemies take even more blight wine stacks

tender zephyr Mar 13, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Ok, think I'm lowering the heat.
Having a 500% damage multiplier is just no fun when it's so easy to take little scraps of damage everywhere.

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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um It's not that I complaining... but then Dash of Ares was buffed to 100 damage/second?

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ow

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Text bug

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My dissapointment is immesurable and my day is ruined onion

pseudo crow Mar 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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they just changed it to show dps instead of damage per tick

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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onion

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That threw me off so much

brittle vault Mar 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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uh, does anyone else have trouble making visual sense of the game? there are so many effects half the time i can't understand what's going on

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Well there is 2 situations then i lose track of Zag... new bosses and then I blank out is survival rooms and start fighting things... I think is a problem of getting used to things...?

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Hmmm

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Speaking of Ares... Engulfing vortex now suck in Pest-mines that's a new one?

cerulean orchid Mar 13, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Where did the shield dash knockback go?

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And does anyone know if Meg's gonna see any changes to her fight? Cause after going up against the other two I know for sure who I'd rather fight against

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

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sword dash build is insane lul just got 630x2 crit on hydra

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https://imgur.com/fw6miDM

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the wrath energy was building so fast

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i could cast it every 3 sec xD

high pulsar Mar 13, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Does anyone know how often Thanatos shows up? I missed his keepsake the first time, and I haven't seem him since.

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 6:39 PM

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for me its like 1 time in each run

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but the room where he appears is random i guess

high pulsar Mar 13, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Also, looking at that sword dash build, I just realized how powerful double edge is now. I need to try and get that.

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 6:46 PM

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OH NO

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OH NOOO GUYS

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Supreme Pink Commander is at it again

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Tissy can be charmed with legendary

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Poor soul glitches around the room

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What love makes to people, oh the horror.

primal cape Mar 13, 2019, 6:51 PM

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what loadout should I take with 120 heat?

ornate tartan Mar 13, 2019, 6:54 PM

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depends for the build

cerulean orchid Mar 13, 2019, 7:08 PM

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ok trying to compete with Thana when the main enemies that spawn are skull-crushers is impossible

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he can just execute them in the sky where you can't even touch them

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 7:11 PM

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In Lava town I just gave up on beating him

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In Tartarus it's anyone's game, but aspho... meh

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 7:25 PM

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its not that hard to beat him

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focus on the marked targets if your build have fast 1 target 1 shot potential

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and secondary, foes will still agro only on you so you can try to get them out of his aoe

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 7:47 PM

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what does Zagreus do with the centaur hearts, anyway? does he eat them?

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or is he just cramming his chest cavity full of more and more hearts?

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which would be worse?

ornate tartan Mar 13, 2019, 7:51 PM

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what does eating a fruit has to do with upgrading magical blessings from the gods?

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 7:54 PM

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well, what else are you going to do with it?

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 8:31 PM

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funny thing tho

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if i take a boon from Chaos with punishment that says "you take +N% more dmg from traps" the foes will take more dmg from those traps aswell

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if i am not mistaking

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Hm that's a hard thing to test

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But a very possible as a shortcut for devs xD

grand summit Mar 13, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Do you guys know if it's intended for the Tisiphone bossfight to never happen?
I only fought her once, but that was scripted, and she's disappeared, I only ever get Alecto besides Meg

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:45 PM

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I've gotten Alecto once and Tis 3 times, so it sounds like plain old bad rng to me

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I think it's going through a specific set of encounter dialogues that's causing it to be lopsided towards Tis

thick gull Mar 13, 2019, 8:47 PM

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whats your guys favourite and least favourite Wrath?

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 8:48 PM

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its mainly random i guess, but sometimes it might be story telling meeting with Meg or smthng like that

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Athena`s is most broken lul

thick gull Mar 13, 2019, 8:48 PM

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I havent had Athena's yet

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I really like artemis's

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and ares's

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 8:48 PM

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@atomic panther My god why do you implant that image with your name? Just why...

thick gull Mar 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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and as everything aphrodite does for me, I find hers to be terrible

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Athena>Ares>Artemis>Zeus and Dionysus

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Tisiphone plays minecraft idk what to tell you

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Gods damn it >_<

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:49 PM

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My fav wrath is Artemis bc she's just the best

grand patrol Mar 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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so far my least fave is dio's bc like...i cant see ;0;

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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And also I like how it plays

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Now I not feeling guilty for cheesing her with Aphro legendary

grand patrol Mar 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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the screen flashes so much i have to close my eyes nvnbnbmb

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Athenas wrath gives you 4-n second of invulnerability and deflecting

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when you go noncast build and can stack up wrath quickly its actualy broken

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Wrath doesn't stack while wraths are active sadly (probably for that exact reason)

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 8:54 PM

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you cant build up wrath energy while casting wrath

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so...

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:55 PM

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Yeah exactly

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 8:55 PM

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or you mean like taking many wraths from few gods?

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xD

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:56 PM

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No, I mean your wrath meter doesn't fill while your wrath is being used. While Athena is making you invulnerable, damage you deal will not add to your charge

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 8:57 PM

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would be stupidly op

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like just smash the buttons as a monkey for the win

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 8:58 PM

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I can only imagine

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:00 PM

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actually it depends on the build

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if you cant stack up energy too fast, Athena`s wrath wouldnt be so good

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:01 PM

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4 seconds of invulnerability is great no matter what

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:01 PM

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and opposite, if you have legendary boon from Ares, his wrath becomes op

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Ares Legendary changed, actually

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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how long ago?

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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This patch

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Yup

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It used to be the vacuum effect, I believe?

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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well i am talking aboute one that in this patch

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Now it refreshes curse within rifts

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Oh I see

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Which is a bit buggy because you can get it without having any curses

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And also not good

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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its op lol

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imagine

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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It's situationally strong, which is disappointing for a legendary imo

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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shield with curse on special

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Aaand already you lost me

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Jokes aside

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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legendary ares boon and ares wrath

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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You just kill enemies too fast with blade rifts

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You usually dont even get much of a refresh

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Or any at all

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:03 PM

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There is no legendary wrath

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:04 PM

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It might be good with the "applying curse increases damage thing"

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If instead of refreshing curse each tick essentially applies a curse

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But I dont think thats how its implemented?

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:04 PM

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not that fast if you take "+N% foes hp"

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:05 PM

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True, but even then

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Youd have to pick a lot of Ares boons for it

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And the payoff is still fairly mediocre

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Id rather just have the succ or the homing rifts upgrade

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Homing rifts is a duo with artemis now

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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Wait are you serious

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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its not that hard to get a rift and curse with Ares trinket

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yea its duo with artemis

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:06 PM

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The legendary also needs a rift upgrade

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Come on

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That shouldve just been a regular boon, grumble grumble

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Wait

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I see, it just swapped around

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So you need at least 4 ares Boons for the legendary to be usable

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You need a blade rift boon, black metal, the legendary itself and a curse

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:09 PM

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you need 2

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curse and rift

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:09 PM

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And a Rift upgrade, to be able to get the legendary

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:09 PM

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and it will one shot hydra lol

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:09 PM

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And then the rift itself

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I mean the legendary itself

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And 4 boons from a single god is quite the requirement

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:10 PM

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then 3

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oh

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didnt know that

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w8

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Yeah Legendaries have 2 pre-requisites, essentially

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:10 PM

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so duo boons have some rules too?

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:10 PM

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You need a boon that involves an effect of the duo boon

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So rifts for the homing rifts

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Festive fog for the Dio/Zeus one

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Etc.

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Otherwise, I dont think so?

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Only legendaries have this tier system

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:11 PM

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no

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i mean

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like you have to get N boons from 1 god and N boons from another

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to get duo

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something like that?

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:12 PM

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1 and 1

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:12 PM

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That might be

stuck tide Mar 13, 2019, 9:12 PM

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and duo is a tier 2 boon right?

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:12 PM

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I only know that you need the related thing since the duo wouldnt work otherwise, but requiring one of each would make sense

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Afaik Duo is not in the tier system

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Duo is a tier 2 in that you need at least one boon from each of the prerequisite gods. Duos do not have rarity and, I believe, cannot be upgraded

plush blaze Mar 13, 2019, 9:13 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/RxVuZvA.jpg

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My first sub-7 time

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 9:13 PM

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that's...a lot of damage

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Nice

plush blaze Mar 13, 2019, 9:14 PM

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pepeD

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Got thanatos but 0 survival rooms

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:14 PM

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But yeah, Ares Legendary is just not great unless it would work with the curse stacking thing

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I guess its still better than Aphrodite?

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 9:20 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/pTIZVAX.jpg think I found my new favorite rail build

Imgur

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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That lvl 1 168 damage athena cast 👌

plush blaze Mar 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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wine b o i

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Alcohol and guns, what a dangerous combination

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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love when the game decides I should have a lot of damage

plucky oxide Mar 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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How did you get... 7.5%? On that amulet?

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Is it upgraded?

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 9:22 PM

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level 2 is 1.5% increments

plucky oxide Mar 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Ahhh, understood. Ty

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Wait, low tolerance means you get 3 more stacks?

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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YUP

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:23 PM

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Sweet

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Not very consistent, but sounds fun

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 9:24 PM

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that plus flurry fire and passion dash made it so easy to keep up 8 stacks

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dash past them then turn around and land every shot

plush blaze Mar 13, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Hmmm....

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I wonder if you can spawn all 3 furies at once with a little bit of magic

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 9:29 PM

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that sounds like a nightmare

plush blaze Mar 13, 2019, 9:30 PM

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tisiphone would probably break it

thick gull Mar 13, 2019, 9:32 PM

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I havent had meg since the update

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 9:37 PM

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If that will happen we need a petition to use Pillar (Wo)Men theme.

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 9:51 PM

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I'm planning on trying out some spear runs, what are some good builds in your opinion?

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Spear special with Athena and Vicious Skewer

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Add Chaos special boons if you get access to them

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 9:52 PM

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each time I go for a spear I end up with +300 dmg cast or break the game >_>

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:52 PM

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But spear special is just great in general

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 9:52 PM

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ok thanks ill give it a try

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Goddammit each time I go for a god I end up with this

http://prntscr.com/mxiiq3

Lightshot

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Captured with Lightshot

icy edge Mar 13, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Pillar Men remix by darren would probably be the best video game track in existence

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Yeah I dont like that the first boon has now 5 options

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One of which you never want to pick that early

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I dont think wrath should be an option on your first boon

humble knoll Mar 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Is feedback currently disabled? I cant write anything and i didnt write anything yet

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Read the pinned post

hollow totem Mar 13, 2019, 10:14 PM

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@frosty pier no bow love?

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PepeHands

woeful stirrup Mar 13, 2019, 10:15 PM

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For spear, just go with this 👀
https://i.imgur.com/4NYfxny.jpg

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frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Excuse me what? I dont think such thing as "Bow" even exist in this game, is that a dlc?

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:16 PM

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it would be funny if weapons collected cobwebs in skelly's room

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Bad jokes aside. Bow is sooo not my style, I cant even.

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:18 PM

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oof

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 10:18 PM

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That would be a thick web. I havent touched a bow since like mid december atleast.

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:18 PM

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sword all the way

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:19 PM

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oof tripp avatar

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gigantic lgwCry

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new sword is fantastic

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im iffy on a lot of the hammer upgrades tho

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I get sad every time I see that avatar

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:20 PM

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AAAAAAAA

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my pfp is a tribute to the game

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Taken before its time

icy edge Mar 13, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Sword hammer upgrades are kind of eh

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:20 PM

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ye, great game

icy edge Mar 13, 2019, 10:20 PM

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The thrust crit one is amazing though

carmine briar Mar 13, 2019, 10:20 PM

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So Stygian Blade with deflect on Special is my go-to lovely combo. And then I just got a duo with Athena/Artemis that gave me 3 sec of guaranteed crits after a deflect .. my god that was a quick hydra kill

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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thrust crit is a clear upgrade

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i kinda like the dash-special even though its only utility

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the quick slashes make my heckin arm hurt clicking

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Thrust Crit seems alright now

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Did I hear someone talking smack about World Splitter

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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I prefer Worldsplitter thouh

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Oh, good.

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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worldsplitter? the crappy one hit upgrade?

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:21 PM

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worldsplitter is objectively pretty good but i dont like what it does to combat flow

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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same

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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I love it

icy edge Mar 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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I feel like its too much risk for too little reward

Quick slashes would be amazing if they were both projectile killing wide slashes

World splitter is godlike on some boons, utter garbage on others

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Just smack people for buncha damage

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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thats everyb weapon, its just others still have flow to them

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:22 PM

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No other weapon can just hit for 100 baseline

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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i see why people like it for sure

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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^^

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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just not for me

atomic panther Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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That's fair

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Its still my favourite upgrade

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I dont like Thrust crit because it feels wonky

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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tbh i reaaally like the new shotgun

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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doesnt need the 100 base line when my spear crits for half of the hydras health every hit

limber grail Mar 13, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Spear friendly

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:24 PM

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i just wish the sword had a better upgrade, im not a fan of its current special upgrades

icy edge Mar 13, 2019, 10:24 PM

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New shield is kinda... too easy

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:24 PM

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the 300% shield damage on spear special is just fantastic'']

icy edge Mar 13, 2019, 10:24 PM

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The charge feels too light now, and everything is so safe

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:24 PM

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or is it 500?

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Oh yeah spear has the best upgrades

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500%

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But its generally outclassed by Vicious Skewer

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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which one is that?

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Crit on return

limber grail Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Spear + Titan toppler might not be The Best but its the best for me

icy edge Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Auto crit on return

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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i mean, i guess

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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But thats just the current speedrun choice

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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i usually go for crit runs so i get my boons for the crit and the shield damage is just priceless in the second stage of this game

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:25 PM

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considering armor dmg mult is useless against bosses i tend to not prefer it

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:26 PM

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not reallym, the hydra is a cakewalk with it, since the heads it summons have SHIELD

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Sure, but you onehit the shielded part anyway

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:26 PM

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true not useless, but crit is like 300% in this game

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:26 PM

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Since the damage doesnt overflow anymore

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Its just redundant

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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nah

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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300% for enemies with two health bars

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vs 500% for one of the health bars

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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the crit i get from the crit boons picks up the slack after shield os destroyed

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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I mean the Armour choice is fine

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Its just not as good

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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ye a fine choice thats just my thinkin in not taking it

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:27 PM

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so i end up killing the hydra in like a minuit with my spear run

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:28 PM

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But then again

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Vicious Skewer is ludicrously busted

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:28 PM

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its very good

hard holly Mar 13, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Its how people managed to get a sub-6 minute IGT run

fleet oracle Mar 13, 2019, 10:28 PM

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but is a bit redundent for myself due to my crit runs

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love the goddess of the hunt boons. so good

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cant wait for hades to give us boons that, like, instantly kill the player

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 10:29 PM

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i run like

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everything

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rarely aim for a specific type

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theres a lot of specific cases where boon value changes in the game

wary jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Idk if I've just gotten better at the game or the game got easier in this update, but I am actually on a 5 game win streak. Wrath powers are Hype

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I love it when you use the wrath power and the gods are like "who tf messin with my nephew?!!"

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poseidon I mean

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Poseidon has just the best Wrath lines.

wary jacinth Mar 13, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Poseidon is the best Hype man

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 10:36 PM

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He's clearly got some obols placed on Zag.

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 10:36 PM

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Ok so im trying the spear special athena run, and I've gotten athena special what god should I try to aim for next in this build?

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Artemis for the duo im guessing?

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 10:50 PM

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grody, I got a thanatos room with armored skullcrushers

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ain't no way I was winning that

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 10:51 PM

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I got thanatos room with burn-flingers and homing bombs were flying from all over the place

turbid needle Mar 13, 2019, 10:56 PM

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god burn flingers are so annoying

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like 1 or 2 is okay but god 4-6 with shields is so annoying

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i always lose atleast 100 health

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im constantly dodging

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Sometimes I just want a button "Send me home, Than, it's not wurf"

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As alternative to a "bomb from outta nowhere RIGHT IN YOUR FACE"

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LIKE COME ON. Dont give Homing to fast projectiles.

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Where are these boon "Duo" powers? I can't seem to come across them

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:00 PM

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Yea I think they should slow down the homing bombs, they do too much damage for fast homing projectiles

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You have to get a boon from two gods and if they have a duo together the next time you encounter one of them you might get it

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:02 PM

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So i have to face the encounter where I choose between two gods first?

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:02 PM

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no

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just have to have picked up at least one boon from both gods

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as long as that boon is required for the duo

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like Artemis and Athena, you have to pick up a deflect ability from Athena and something from Artemis, and the next time you encounter either you might get a duo boon

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:04 PM

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ok that makes sense

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I just thought i wasnt doing something right
but im just picking incompatible boons

woeful stirrup Mar 13, 2019, 11:04 PM

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That or you're just unlucky.

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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yeah...

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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there's no guarantees, yeah

woeful stirrup Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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It's the same with Legendary boons, just because you pick the right one to "unlock" a Legendary doesn't mean you'll get it.

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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Yea you can't pick up the death defiance boon from athena and expect to get the duo because that boon isn't compatible.

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That to

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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oh, you can absolutely get duos for effects you never picked

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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wait what?

pearl willow Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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man even with the reload change i still really do not like the rail

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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thats stupid

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 PM

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ye i had dio's festive fog with zeus shock without even having festive fog

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i picked it up later

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:06 PM

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but that doesn't make sense

cursive citrus Mar 13, 2019, 11:06 PM

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so i think its just have some dio and zeus stuff

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:06 PM

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I guess thats a bug maybe?

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 11:06 PM

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yeah, I got the festive fog duo offered without any fog

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dionysus is just problematic since he has two effects

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Everytime i use the fated authority, I always get either Darkness, Key, ambrosia, heat
Never have i gotten hammer or a god's boon.
Is it possible to get those? Or am I just unlucky

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Dio... is a strange being... I can cheerfuly take his boon on the start, but in lava town I just dont know why he even bothered to show up -_-

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:10 PM

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I don't think you can reroll a resource into a hammer or boon but you can reroll hammer or boon into resources in my experience

quaint gale Mar 13, 2019, 11:11 PM

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I'm liking Dio more and more with the rail, but other than that yeah

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:11 PM

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but if the boon is a mini boss room it will 100% reroll into other boons

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ok im doing spear special build and I just picked up hammer, what should i get? Multi skewer, extending jab or armor skewer

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i'm thinking either multi or armor

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:12 PM

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armor

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Wait

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Multi as in the spear special bounces?

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:13 PM

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yes

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:13 PM

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thats a good one with zues boon

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Im doing Athena special

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so armor then?

woeful stirrup Mar 13, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I rerolled an Ares boon into an Artemis boon.

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Might have been a mini-boss, though, no sure.

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Also, you should get Multi Skewer. It's great.

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I wish I was able to reroll (i think it was athena) into artemis for this run, but I used all my tokens and it kept switching between poseidon and dio

woeful stirrup Mar 13, 2019, 11:15 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/4NYfxny.jpg

Imgur

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:20 PM

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Jesus I went into Tisiphone with multibounce and it screwed me pretty badly

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I was on near full health and left with 7

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I don't think i like multi, you can't really get the 2nd lot of damage from pulling the spear back

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Welp if you got heat on you it's bad

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:21 PM

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no heat this run

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 11:23 PM

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poiseidon boon I haven't seen before, "Razor Shoals," "Your knock-away effects make foes take damage when moving fast"

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does that mean when I'm moving fast, or when the knockback makes them move fast, or when they're moving fast when the knockback pushes them?

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yikes, and then the stat description is "High-Speed Distance Damage: 5%"

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I do not know what that statistic means

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I think it is about how fast enemy flying after you punch him with knockback.

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:28 PM

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oooo cheese grating enemies

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 11:28 PM

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so if the only knockback I have is dash, which doesn't knockback very far, it's probably not good?

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:28 PM

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might be good with rail

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probs not

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 11:28 PM

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but what does the "5%" modifier mean, do you think?

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5% of what?

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:28 PM

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5% of your attack damage maybe?

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 11:29 PM

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5% of damage per units of distance traveled?

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:29 PM

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5% of the speed that they're travelling?

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also I just got the artemis athena duo without having an artemis boon prior

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 11:30 PM

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that wording! (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I had Athena special and got my first artemis which gave me duo

frosty pier Mar 13, 2019, 11:30 PM

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┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:30 PM

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everyone getting these duos and im just here like how

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Im so unlucky

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Does anyone know what the actual duos are?

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:31 PM

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So im guessing its just chance as long as you have one of the boons

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Artemis Athena, Aries Aphro, Dio Zeus, Zeus Pos, Artemis Aries

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probs some other ones

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Also Dio's Wrath is insane, it applies stacks of blight to everyone around you

loud trout Mar 13, 2019, 11:34 PM

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This run im on gave me mainly posidan and aphrodite so this is already a flop to find the duos

void finch Mar 13, 2019, 11:34 PM

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i just got the zeus dio combo and dio wrath

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ive never had so much dps in my life

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also got the rail shotgun spread which is probably my favorite upgrade in the game right now

upbeat junco Mar 13, 2019, 11:35 PM

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wait, does zeus dio electrocute in festive fog or blight?

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i thought it was fog

pearl willow Mar 13, 2019, 11:35 PM

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lol epic zeus dash + epic zeus lightning strikes twice 75% + epic zeus dash lightning aoe increase by 134%, the bolt aoe is like the size of poseidon dash splash effect

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 11:36 PM

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geez, tisiphone 4 times in a row

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not that I'm complaining she's my favorite

void finch Mar 13, 2019, 11:37 PM

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the dio zeus combo is in the fog

night pasture Mar 13, 2019, 11:58 PM

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man I had level 3 zeus wrath for hydra

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I feel like I may have committed a war crime

upbeat junco Mar 14, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Did they fix the move speed buff to enemies on the pact of pain?

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Is it just move speed now or is it the enemies movespeed and attackspeed

upbeat junco Mar 14, 2019, 12:36 AM

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OMG i just used Aphrodite Wrath on Tisiphone and it actually charmed her

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Aphro wrath could be stronger than I initially thought

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I also used the charm on the blue brimstone and it self destructed

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might have been something else tho

formal hill Mar 14, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Is anyone else getting MAJOR lag in the hydra fight with this kind of load out? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/208977026802122752/555559641887539230/unknown.png

ancient stirrup Mar 14, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Zeus Poseidon duo strikes lightning when you hit an enemy with a knockback

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Hi, if you're experiencing a lot of lag in a room, please send a bug report!

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It lets SGG know where they need to optimize more

formal hill Mar 14, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Im thinking the new heads combined with the bullets and particles from boons are casuing it

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I'll send in a bug report now, I think I havent accepted anything yet/moved on

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 1:18 AM

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👍

formal hill Mar 14, 2019, 1:18 AM

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been getting a lot of slowdowns on the boat as well

ancient stirrup Mar 14, 2019, 1:18 AM

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it gets really bad with sword-flurry, zeus on attack, and zeus' legendary... had to be around 10fps near the end shadesmile

formal hill Mar 14, 2019, 1:22 AM

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oof yeah, I had uh, shield and the stuff up there

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it was.... not fun 😅

turbid quest Mar 14, 2019, 2:08 AM

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I have trouble using any weapon but the shield. I'm just too addicted to the charge attack

shadow mountain Mar 14, 2019, 2:42 AM

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Hey, anybody else had an issue where Dionysus shows up but zag says “what’s uncle Poseidon doing here?”

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 2:44 AM

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I haven't, but if you get mismatched dialogue and text like that, please report it using F11!

pearl willow Mar 14, 2019, 3:44 AM

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damn, zeus offering boons that work with zeus dash now can turn it into a serious powerhouse. had the double lightning strikes + legendary to spawn additional sparks.

mighty vapor Mar 14, 2019, 3:51 AM

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It is very good indeed. My favorite boon synergy so far has been the blade vortex cast being made homing by Artemis. Damn that run was fun

wet tartan Mar 14, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Do heat gates consume heat, or is it just a threshold check? It looks like it’s the former, but then I have to ask: why is heat consumed at 25 heat intervals? ono”

green birch Mar 14, 2019, 4:12 AM

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threshold check is what it should be I believe

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are you losing heat for some reason?

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 4:13 AM

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Yeah, it's just a threshold check

wet tartan Mar 14, 2019, 4:13 AM

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No, I’m just so deterred by the idea of losing five runs worth of progress that I haven’t touched em

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 4:13 AM

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The only way you can lose heat is by trading it at the Wretched Broker

wet tartan Mar 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Oh, ok, cool 😃

green birch Mar 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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you won't lose any heat mid run ever so dont worry!

wet tartan Mar 14, 2019, 4:14 AM

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Ok, than(k) goodness

wide maple Mar 14, 2019, 4:15 AM

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onion

woeful stirrup Mar 14, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Man, the Cluster Bomb upgrade for the rail is garbage.

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Yeah that spread atrocious.

woeful stirrup Mar 14, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Even if you use it on yourself, to get all bombs on the same spot, it takes time to aim and you'll do 150 damage at most. In the same time, you could have unloaded a full 12 shots in the enemy's face, doing 120 damage, reliably, with no chance of it missing and no chance of getting hit by a projectile while moving a target or getting hit by the enemy you wanted to hit because you have to be really close to it for it to have the time to get to the bombing spot. And with any enemy that jumps around, it's impossible. Inferno-bombers will jump away too fast to get hit, Alecto will take half your health down before you can do anything.
It was a really awful run, I spent all my time trying to get heals and lost all of my death defiances against Alecto. And during the last Hydra phase, all the Hydra heads were stompers. Absolutely insane, because it made the cluster bomb even more useless (not that I actually used it during the boss fight, given that my attack was more powerful and more reliable).

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There are only two special upgrades for the rail, and the other one is so much better: deals 180 damage instead of 150 if all of them hit, and is way easier to use.

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:08 AM

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The only thing I found the cluster bomb ok for was with ares boon

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so you could atleast spread it around

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can set it up as they spawn so they get it on loadin

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Still unreliable and if you are cursing with rail you are better of taking the attack-curse over special.

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Though I must say I havent used it since the patch so its worse now with the self stun

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thats true but

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when youre running TB you dont get too many choices

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so eh

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it atleast makes going after ares more appealing

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 5:10 AM

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Hey , any ideas what should be the ''must-have'' upgrade/boon for bow? Pretty sure the ''fast fire'' from hammer and either zeus lightning chain on regular attack or blight on regular attack for extra dps

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 5:11 AM

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None of those, in my experience and for my playstyle with bow, honestly

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Perfect Shot or Triple Shot from Hammer, then pick your +%dmg on Attack (Athena is highest, but really just picky any). Get Hunter Dash from Artemis, and try to get +%dmg on Attack and/or Dash Attack from Chaos

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Dash attack power shot for every shot you do

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Or try to, anyway

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:16 AM

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#bow_does_not_exist

woeful stirrup Mar 14, 2019, 5:17 AM

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Come on, you gotta try it again. All weapons are good.

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I make the blade sit in the corner and think about what its done

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 5:18 AM

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I'd say all weapons are viable, whether they are good is subjective for your own playstyle

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I for one am awful with sword, but I won't say it isn't good, it's just not how I like to play

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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it just feels way too unsafe for me on 500% damage

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im sure someones done it at 120 though

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just feels like I eat so many more hits there

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Oh, heat is another matter entirely. Generally ranged is "safer" for Heat runs by a long shot

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:19 AM

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yeah for sure

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I cant do something about that insatiable lust for pain and action that melee weapons provide, and my hand injuries make it almost unplayable to heat it up. So bow is doomed to catching cobwebs on my save.

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:21 AM

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just take bow and make a cast build

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easy

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squirtdevious

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 5:22 AM

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never really enjoyed using cast, any tips?

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 5:22 AM

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Focus on Artemis for wide array of Cast boons she offers

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More capacity, faster drop time, seeking

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Zeus is a good Cast boon too

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Or you can just pick athena and stack it to 300

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Ares cast is fun too, but it needs commitment.

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 5:23 AM

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I mostly use Cast vs bosses for an opening salvo of "free" damage, plus the bonus from Boiling Blood

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 5:24 AM

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I mean, how to use it efficiently. Do you just use it as ''one-time'' nuke attack and the wait for it to drop? is the damage increase on cast soo good that you can afford to forego other boons damage increase on regular attack or special?

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I mainly use it only for ''boiling blood''

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:24 AM

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it sort of depends on which cast you have honestly

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Also seems to be less efficient in Asphodel, since it can get stuck in a corner somewhere and you wont be able to retrieve it till the end of the room

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:25 AM

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well not till the end

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Well there is a timer now atleast

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but it does take a while

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:25 AM

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It has a timer of 2-3 minutes i think?

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:26 AM

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something like that

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 5:33 AM

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@cursive flint You can open the boon display at any time to see your current bonus from Pierced Butterfly

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LT on gamepad, and I think Tab on keyboard (I don't play KBM though)

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 5:42 AM

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Yup tab

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:55 AM

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Ow gods murderboat is full of murder again.

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 5:55 AM

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I didn't realize it'd ever stopped being full or mmmmmmmmmmurder

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Well it was hectic for me, but I got hang of it "bomber-blodless" combo to a flawless degree, and now with new enemies it's "ow look a boat took half of my hp, AGAIN"

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Hm, so it's more like... It got full of brand new murder I dont like one bit?

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I don't understand Alecto

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now I miss Meg

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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What do you mean by "don't understand"?

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Can't figure out her patterns?

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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Her fight is absurdly frantic

coarse hare Mar 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I don't see Meg anymore at Tartarus after the update

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Been there a dozen times already

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I seen Meg once

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I've seen meg like three times in a row

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 6:02 AM

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They all come and go

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Nice advice, lol

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 6:03 AM

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That came out wrong

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Dude, not cool

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Alecto's the roughest fight so far

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for me

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I find Tissy way harder than Alecto

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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Still it is a race of dps.

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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Alecto is pretty similar to Meg's attack pattern, and with less adds

coarse hare Mar 14, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I wonder when the game releases, if they're gonna start off with all 3 furies, or if they'll only add the other two after you've beaten Meg enough times

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If you start off with all 3, that's gonna be tough to build up hearts with Meg

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 6:05 AM

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It should be the same as it is now, where you only meet the other 2 Furies after you've beaten Meg a few times

coarse hare Mar 14, 2019, 6:05 AM

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Ah okay, it's hard to tell since I've already beaten Meg a bunch before the update

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 6:10 AM

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... Thank you based RNG I wanted ares cast, and none of casts showed up.

http://prntscr.com/mxmrjr

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turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 6:16 AM

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the poor gate on heart seeker bow lol

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Eh?

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 6:17 AM

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hate*

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0 clears, giving no love

forest marsh Mar 14, 2019, 6:17 AM

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Oh ha ha that makes more sense

vocal mason Mar 14, 2019, 6:25 AM

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has anyone else had mouse moving extremely slow in main menu

frosty pier Mar 14, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Only if I forgot about my second mouse...

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Cobweb on my bow remains untouched untill something big like "you can walk very slowly while charging shot" drops.

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 6:51 AM

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speaking of which I nearly had a cool high damage run with the bow

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I flubbed it by playing like a reckless shmuck

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+50% speed on monsters seems to make a difference

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 6:56 AM

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yeah whipped frenzy is the worst

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its not just their movement speed it impacts how quickly they attack too

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 6:58 AM

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ah

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my biggest problem is still the fat dudes, Louts?

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 7:01 AM

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same

native swallow Mar 14, 2019, 7:01 AM

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yeah with a high amount of WF they can scoot at you from off screen

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so theyre a big pain

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 7:02 AM

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poseidon tends to help, knock them back

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Poseidon is fun too

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 7:02 AM

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atleast for me, also going with bow

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poseidon regular attack knockback + deidalus fast attack = noone getting close

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 7:03 AM

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I took the triple and managed to get a consistent 200-300 damage range

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but yeah, ech on maxspeed runs with bow

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unsafe

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 7:03 AM

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i usually get killed by trying to do max charge attack, so by taking fast charge i prevent a lot of greedy deaths 😄

night quartz Mar 14, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Had a blast eith poseidon and shield... got legenfary boon too but downside was in Asphodel i had to look for enemies ouf in the lava in the very corners of the room

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With*

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 8:07 AM

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going to try to pick up stygian blade, any tips? Like, how do you actually manage to deal with enemies melee range, like bosses, gorgons, slam-dancers, how do you manage to avoid damage?

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 8:10 AM

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Dash

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squirtdevious

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The blade and shield are the best weapons imo, spear for special runs

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 8:12 AM

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JUST GOT MY 60 HEAT WIN!!

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First try with vicious skewer spear >:3

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 8:13 AM

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👌

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Vicious skewer artemis runs are very nice👀

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 8:14 AM

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i only got two boons the whole run

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that bit sucked

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📎 Hades_00089.png

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3 boons mb

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that athena boon was a lifesaver

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i had a survival room full of nothing but fire flingers and those wave bloodless

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 8:15 AM

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wauw, how did you manage to survive with 3 boons?

hollow totem Mar 14, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Quality > quantity

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 8:21 AM

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High heat runs are actually better with less boons

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Atleast if you go max tenebrous veil🤔

hollow totem Mar 14, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Def just like world splinter and leveling up athena attack

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Just get a good duo of boons

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And level those up seem to be solid

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 8:32 AM

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I actually didnt have tenebrous veil on at all

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I just. Couldn't get any boons.

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Didn't level my boons much either

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Vicious skewer is just broken beyond belief

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 8:34 AM

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for stygian blade with athenas regular attack deflect boon, does the deflect only apply to the part when you deal damage or the whole swing animation? Also, which attacks can be deflected?

dusky quartz Mar 14, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Don't you guys think the Fury you fight isn't random or that it depends from the way you play?

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I don't think so but I'm at 3 Meg, 2 Tisiphone and 8 Alecto. shadefear

quaint gale Mar 14, 2019, 8:55 AM

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are you still getting new dialogue?

dusky quartz Mar 14, 2019, 8:55 AM

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With Meg and Alecto, no.

quaint gale Mar 14, 2019, 8:56 AM

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curious...

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 9:00 AM

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could be, whats your playstyle?

dusky quartz Mar 14, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Well, I'm fast, I reroll often obols and hearts to take as much boons as possible.

proud storm Mar 14, 2019, 9:24 AM

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you get alecto bc both of you are super fast

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Tbh I dunno

dusky quartz Mar 14, 2019, 9:32 AM

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I wonder if having a random fury will mess up speedrunnes or high heat runs volfredthink

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 9:32 AM

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oh probably

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i got tisiphone on my 60 heat run and it was terrifying

dusky quartz Mar 14, 2019, 9:34 AM

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And if like me you never see her and learn her patterns... erf

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And I don't think having a way to choose the boss will be a good idea

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 9:43 AM

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I beat tisi and alecto on 120, still think alecto is more terrifying shadegrief

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 9:51 AM

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see I ain't the only one

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I thought Tisi's bullet hell was strange

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and easily avoidable

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 10:02 AM

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Someone agrees with me wonder13ROBBIT

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 11:36 AM

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are there ever times when skelly doesnt show up in the courtyard ?? or

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 11:37 AM

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sometimes he just isn't there; if you switch weapons he shows up tho

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 11:37 AM

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okay i was just checking ty!!

lofty turret Mar 14, 2019, 1:20 PM

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Is it just me or is Ares' cast ultra op in this patch?

plush blaze Mar 14, 2019, 1:20 PM

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skelly deserves a break every now and again

wet tartan Mar 14, 2019, 1:22 PM

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When you pick a new keepsake after the Fury and choose another god’s keepsake, does it let you pick the next boon? Sticking with your current god’s keepsake didn’t seem to do anything, but I’m wondering if changing it does

plush blaze Mar 14, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Changing it does let you pick your next asphodel boon

wet tartan Mar 14, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Cool, thanks—

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Ares cast was great before too

last grail Mar 14, 2019, 2:03 PM

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Does giving gods more ambrosia after first one do anything gameplay-wise? Better boons or anything?
Or does it only gives you new voice lines?

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Just new voice lines, I believe

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There might be some convos unlocked with hearts

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 2:09 PM

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are you kidding me

📎 Hades_00059.png

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please i just want to hear the new song. please

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 2:09 PM

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gkjdfhgkjdfhgkjdfghd

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rip

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 2:10 PM

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kirb

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let me innnnnn LET ME INNNNNNNN

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ok game u are forgiven for now

📎 Hades_00060.png

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oh my god he FINALLY gave me the prank convo

proud storm Mar 14, 2019, 2:16 PM

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scourge of the furies really slaps when youre against alecto in particular

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the music, alecto screaming like a banshee, the chaos that ensues when she gets mad

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I’ve only been playing for like a week but that Hydra in Asphodel is a pain.

silent cedar Mar 14, 2019, 2:23 PM

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they added a new head type this update, right?

plush blaze Mar 14, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Yup, shoots 3 waves

silent cedar Mar 14, 2019, 2:23 PM

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oof

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~~aegis sudden rush intensifies~~

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Ya that guy sucks

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lol

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 2:53 PM

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i just tried to reload the spear

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2 much gun

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ok time to try 60 heat again

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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have u beat 60 yet ?

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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nope

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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what are u using pact?

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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i only got enough like, yesterday

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 3:00 PM

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ih im allready using 60 and got 200 heat spare lol

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:01 PM

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i rlly dont play enough haha

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 3:01 PM

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thats my second save wich is now bigger as my first one lol

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:01 PM

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i usually do one run and then stop playing but im motivated today

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 3:01 PM

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5200/10000 darkness for 6th alter lol

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oh well as long as u enjoy the game ! everyone has to play on their own pace 😃

stuck tide Mar 14, 2019, 3:12 PM

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found new duo btw

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poseidon+zeus

icy edge Mar 14, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Is anyone updating the wiki?

green birch Mar 14, 2019, 3:17 PM

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The person that updates the wiki the most has yet to play the update so at the moment most likely no!

serene isle Mar 14, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Finally finished! https://imgur.com/a/66xwcnC

Imgur

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:30 PM

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niice

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@indigo compass

📎 Hades_00063.png

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i died to tisiphone so heres my pact

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also, that was my 90th run :D

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 3:32 PM

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i@haven’t seen any of this stuff yet

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am i missing something rooThink

light nova Mar 14, 2019, 3:33 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/IQZjBSP

Imgur

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how many of these do we have in game?

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I mean duo skills

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:33 PM

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who knows

light nova Mar 14, 2019, 3:33 PM

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I found one playing all the day

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:34 PM

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the wiki will probably update with them in the upcoming days

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syd, have you gotten a clear yet?

proud storm Mar 14, 2019, 3:36 PM

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there's at least 6

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 3:37 PM

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oh no i haven’t

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that’s it then rooKek

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i’m really struggling with hydra but i’m sure i’ll get it soon

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:38 PM

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i 🐝 🍃 in you

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 3:38 PM

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thank you !!

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:39 PM

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but yeah the pact makes the game more difficult, so

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 3:42 PM

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g r e at

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 3:44 PM

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you dont have to use it if you dont want to which is great but its There

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i just wanna get the shiny rewards

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i got vicious skewer im excited

safe mesa Mar 14, 2019, 4:00 PM

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oooh fhat’s a good one

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spear is by far my best weapon for a run

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 4:04 PM

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i made it to alecto by some miracle, but i wasted all my death defies earlier bc of an inferno bomb chaos boon which was. very bad lmao

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so i died. but i got her to half health or so which was nice, im getting there

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ok i got vicious skewer again yay

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:08 PM

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https://imgur.com/nkBirOO

Imgur

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well this is mad

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Artemis' Wrath and her Legendary can be a bit ... laggy

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 4:10 PM

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oh yeah

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very laggy

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i havent encountered lag myself but i watched my brother play and god

wide maple Mar 14, 2019, 4:10 PM

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i guess you can say it nuk(e)d your fps

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:11 PM

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ayy

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 4:11 PM

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ok this run is certainly looking better

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:12 PM

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@errant narwhal 😃 i am going shared misery max instead of limiting my darkness so i can have good chance for epics and rares ,

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:12 PM

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still miffed that my runs rarely hit duo boons

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 4:12 PM

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i see! i didnt have shared misery, so i might try that now

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:12 PM

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I've gotten like 1

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 4:12 PM

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but also.... looks like numbskull hell awaits me

wide maple Mar 14, 2019, 4:13 PM

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whipped frenzy and numbskulls is what I have nightmares about

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:13 PM

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and also dmg on enemies i try to avoid and go for 60 percent less healing instead

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:13 PM

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whipped frenzy is lunatic

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:13 PM

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yeah i dont do whipped frenzy

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it speeds up atks wich makes numbskulls a nightmare

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:14 PM

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The Louts are stupid fast and the Numbskulls give you death from a thousand cuts

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:14 PM

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and with shared misery theres alot of numbskulls lol

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:14 PM

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I like shared misery

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that's a fun penalty to be having

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:14 PM

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yeah i use it maxed atm

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but it can get a bit too much on the boat for instance

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i lose about 60-100 hp often

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:15 PM

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psh, if you're on a boat it's time for stupid to happen

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helps if you have charon's trinket and the 15% health drop from shop

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:16 PM

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i use the collar for asphodel most of the time

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I either swap to Cerberus collar or charon

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:16 PM

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with meelee weapons at least:p the bow is pretty doable

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but im having the most trouble with the rail atm

wintry moon Mar 14, 2019, 4:18 PM

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With rail, I've gotten the best run with dash reloads mostly

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 4:18 PM

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I like thanatos keepsake

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Usually get about 20% or more damage

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:19 PM

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i like it too but im having trouble getting perfect clears with some weapons

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 4:19 PM

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i use zeus for death insurance

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Kill them before they kill you squirtdevious

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 4:19 PM

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i go mostly ares with everything:p

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but if u use butterfly u cant rly choose your god:p

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damn allmost at 300 attempts:p

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accross 2 save files

tough echo Mar 14, 2019, 4:25 PM

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What are the seven Duo boons? Any lists?

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What I've found so far:
Zeus + Dio
Dio + Artemis
Ares + Artemis

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 4:28 PM

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i got a Aphrodite and Dionysus boon

green birch Mar 14, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Poseidon + Zeus

tough echo Mar 14, 2019, 4:29 PM

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The list of Duo Boons so far:

Zeus + Dio
Dio + Artemis
Ares + Artemis
Zeus + Poseidon
Aphrodite + Dio
Aphrodite + Ares

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One more~

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No Duo boons with Athena in it?

green birch Mar 14, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Added 6 new 'Duo' boons

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you got them all!

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there are 7 new wrath boons tho!

tough echo Mar 14, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Oh. I missread.

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Athena artemis

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When you deflect you crit for a while

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Its great

tough echo Mar 14, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Wait. I don't think this Duo Boon exists.
Dio + Artemis

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Havent seen it🤔

grand patrol Mar 14, 2019, 4:35 PM

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she doesnt want to be near him jdjvnvkgj

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 4:36 PM

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shadesmile

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What does Ares , Artemis duo do

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My favorite gods👌

tough echo Mar 14, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Zeus + Dio
Athena + Artemis
Ares + Artemis
Zeus + Poseidon
Aphrodite + Dio
Aphrodite + Ares

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Fixed.

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I've never gotten 5 yet though.

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Ares + Artemis
Blade Rifts seek foes.

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Oo

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Thats why ares has new stuff for that

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Thank yee ramdzan

tough echo Mar 14, 2019, 4:38 PM

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What is Ares new legendary boon?

hasty mauve Mar 14, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I think someone said if theyre cursed you do extra damage

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He also has a boon that does extra dama if you refresh curse

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Not sure shadesmile

proud storm Mar 14, 2019, 5:03 PM

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ares' legendary refreshes curse effects if the target is in a blade rift

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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@errant narwhal nice i just cleared a 60 heat run with the rail 😃

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 5:05 PM

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sick!!

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I think I’m done playing for today but I think 60 heat is definitely..... achievable for me with practice

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 5:15 PM

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yeah u should be able to get it 😃

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nice got my pierced butterfly 18 percent going into asphodel 😃

errant narwhal Mar 14, 2019, 5:21 PM

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ok_face

indigo compass Mar 14, 2019, 5:37 PM

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was a nice spear run:) ended with 22 percent pierced butterfly and curse of agony lvl5 epic 146dmg

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also had zeus wrath, its nice :p although the hydra fight had very low frames with those effects

wanton raptor Mar 14, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Supergiant , please nerf Tisiphone

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she is a tough bench to beat

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I hate her XD

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Me playing the new patch: wow these particle effects are nuts, super cool
Me on my tenth run: wow if I take this boon my frame rate's gonna c r u n c h

wanton raptor Mar 14, 2019, 6:25 PM

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same

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Honestly my computer's due for an upgrade. I just never imagined ARPGs to be the thing that push me to upgrade.

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Nuuu, Vicious Skewer got nerfed. T_T

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That's my favorite upgrade. ;w;

plush blaze Mar 14, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Well deserved imo

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What's the damage bonus at right now?

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 7:05 PM

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😠

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Nah, I'll get over it.

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It's probably not that severe of a decrease anyway.

green musk Mar 14, 2019, 7:07 PM

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yeah, zeus was kinda insane

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lol

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Vicious Skewerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr =((((((((((((

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no one was supposed to tell them it was too good

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Right?! lol

tender zephyr Mar 14, 2019, 7:18 PM

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They probably just looked at the current fastest speedrun and said, "Nope. Can't let you go that fast."

plush blaze Mar 14, 2019, 7:18 PM

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weeeeell they didn't nerf it in the main patch

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Wondering what changed between then and now, or maybe it was a change which was still being tweaked at the time of the patch

tender zephyr Mar 14, 2019, 7:18 PM

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They were luring you into a false sense of security.

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It could just be a matter of priority

plush blaze Mar 14, 2019, 7:19 PM

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The crit is the main damage source, I don't really mind that the damage bonus is nerfed

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:22 PM

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i haven't actually played with it yet

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what is the new number?

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Lemme see

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20%

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Assuming Im reading this correctly

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Yeah, should be 20%

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Its still really really good

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So its a totally fine nerf

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Tbh so long as the crit stays

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I wouldnt even mind the complete loss of the 50%

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:29 PM

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yeah honestly me neither

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does anyone else thing the other 2 daedelus upgrades for the spear special are just not good at all?

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I have played a ton of spear runs and they do not feel even remotely as impactful as vicious skewer

night pasture Mar 14, 2019, 7:30 PM

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I know the one that makes it explode is awful

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Ive never picked that one

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But I believe you cant return with it, right?

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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correct

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Yeah that one is awful

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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the return is useless with the bouncey one as well

night pasture Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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it's a huge damage nerf because even without criticals you normally get to and from damage

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Im not sure Id play it at 100% damage bonus

kind marten Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Flurry is great with Zeus

night pasture Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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yeah exactly

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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The bouncy one looks cute as well

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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because it goes off randomly

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:31 PM

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But not good

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The ranged damage one is good

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Its just outclassed by the crit one

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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the extended jab one?

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i feel like that one is terrible also lol

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Nah, the one that is up to 200% damage based on range

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On the special

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:32 PM

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wow what i haven't seen that one

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how is that even possible

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i played like 20 runs with the spear last night alone and never once saw that!

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:34 PM

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I havent seen it lately, but its in the files

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So I think its in the game?

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Its not noted as having been removed, at least

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 7:35 PM

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interesting lol

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 7:45 PM

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I've played with the explodey one and the bouncey one. They're both, uh... not... Yeah.

atomic panther Mar 14, 2019, 7:45 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473685187780411405/555838484938620949/unknown.png
Got Prog stopped at Claire's (I already F10'd this one)
If you meet Thanatos in Tartarus, then again in Asphodel, the game won't let you talk to him (since it doesn't let you get more than one conversation with a single NPC per run). So even though the prompt appears, I can't talk to him and cannot leave.

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 7:45 PM

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I like the armor one, though. Especially if nothing else is available/if I'm feeling confident enough in my boons.

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:47 PM

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That one seems alright

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It suffers from the armour change

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Since now damage doesnt overflow

kind marten Mar 14, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Yo, when you reload the rail while standing still, it roots you in place, even though can reload while moving. What's that about?

rich lantern Mar 14, 2019, 8:05 PM

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@atomic panther Thank you for F10ing it!

high pulsar Mar 14, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Is the pierced butterfly supposed to ignore trap damage? I've still got my bonus even after stepping on spikes.

atomic panther Mar 14, 2019, 8:15 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473685187780411405/555846483933528092/unknown.png
Tons of damage 😎 I was dealing 203 per chop

atomic panther Mar 14, 2019, 8:33 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473685187780411405/555850836538818584/unknown.png
Chaos is fun

high pulsar Mar 14, 2019, 8:33 PM

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That's quite a lot of damage. Also, I think I misunderstood how pierced butterfly works; I though the damage boost would reset every time you take damage.

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Dang the new update is hella fun

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already played like 4 hours of the game

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i was really focusing on more content after the last update and damn it's good

atomic panther Mar 14, 2019, 8:54 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473685187780411405/555856240501325824/Hades_00164.png
Chaos is fun

autumn tapir Mar 14, 2019, 9:08 PM

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oh wow I just figured out that alecto's rage drops if she doesn't damage/get damaged
I feel so dumb now

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Sword buffs feel really good. There are some really unique synergies in there that I'm a big fan of.

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 9:17 PM

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I do agree that stabbing people violently with a large blade has never felt better in this game

green birch Mar 14, 2019, 9:18 PM

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Empowered nova + hunter’s dash is 👌 👌 👌

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 9:19 PM

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Sword seems to be doing the best at giving me incentives to mix and match boon typings.

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Does anyone know exactly how wrath works? In terms of gaining it?

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Doing damage and taking damage fills up the meter

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Exact rates are not known, if thats what you want to know

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I was wondering if it filled up faster for doing cooler stuff maybe

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Like multikills, trap kills, wall slams, crits and the like

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I have an idea, that I have yet to test, that faster, multi hitting things generate more than, say, a single strong hit on a single enemy.

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 9:40 PM

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It doesnt

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At least, not on the crit

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There is a boon that makes it charge faster on crits

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From my experience with the spear and the rail

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Its just damage

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 9:42 PM

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I personally find that Ares' cast has me generating more wrath than, a single powerful hit from an Artemis cast, but that's just my experience

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In the same light, I'd think the boon that chargers wrath faster on crit would be more useful with sword flurry+empowered nova than world splitter+empowered nova. But again, haven't tested this.

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I'd also like to know if all wrath's offer I-frames on immediate use, for that intro flare, or if it's just found in the ones that offer prolonged invulnerability.

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Sword got a buff?

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Special no longer locks you into the animation. You can move, attack, and dash out of it much sooner. It's rate of use is still the same, but it allows you to nova and pull off some sword swings or dashes before you can nova again.

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Damage on the first few sword swings is higher as well, I believe. Making poke a lot more consistent. Overall, Feels very fast and frenetic, and much much safer.

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Huh

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Yeah I know about the dmg

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I'd still take the shield any day tho

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It's still the most powerful weapon with so many ways to kill things and effectively can go gutless in boss fights and such just by firing your shield from range

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And not needing much skill

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Honestly all of the weapons are really really good, and play into their own strengths (on 0 heat). I'd say the gun has the least amount of Quality of Life to it, out of all of the weapons out. But even then, that's steadily improving.

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Even the bow and spear?

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I mean I can see the spear being used

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I just dont like it

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But the bow?

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Spear is nuts and had to be nerfed. Bow was nuts and had to be nerfed. Now they're both in good spots, with their hammer upgrades evening out in potential usage. But yeah, spear and bow are considered easy wins in my eyes. They're just... really safe, damage wise. I don't need feel like I need boons to gut Meg with them.

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Shield is REALLY safe, but it lacks consistent damage output right out of the gate (this isn't as true as it once was). Once you do land the correct hammer/boon, though, it really starts to fly.

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Not a fan of the bow

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Mainly cuz I have to charge shots

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Well I do that with the shield

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I do get protection

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Unlike here

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As for the spear, my aim just sucks with it

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Pro tip with the bow: dash in, point blank special, dash out

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Bow requires you to play very differently. Dashing with your attacks to create a rhythm that keeps you moving and power shotting can be tough, but keeps you well out of harms way. It seems like it's that combination of kiting + consistent damage output that people love about bow.

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 10:01 PM

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It might not be the most safe or efficient strategy, but goddamn if it isn't fun to fire 20 arrows into some poor enemy's back and watch them melt

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 10:03 PM

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For how safe and consistent bow's attack is, its wild that they paired it with such a reckless, widespread, and stationary move. Special Bow builds are silly, and they're always fun when they pop up.

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 10:03 PM

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Spamming a point blank bow special from behind enemies was how I got my first Hydra kill.

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 10:04 PM

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That hammer upgrade that doubles projectiles 👌
Artemis, Athena, or Zeus boon on it 👌

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Now, somewhat ironically, the only weapon I have not killed Hydra with is shield... Which is kinda sad, cuz before I started getting Hydra kills consistently, shield was the weapon that got me the farthest.

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Shield is INSANELY fun.

mint leaf Mar 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

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I love shield, but I always get bad luck with boons/hammer upgrades when I pick it for some reason lately. >:x

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 10:06 PM

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Get the hammer upgrade that makes your attack charge much quicker, and go for an attack build. You'll be playing pinball in no time.

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Zeus dash+Poseidon attack builds with the new duo boon is delightful.

shadow heath Mar 14, 2019, 10:09 PM

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I've never enjoyed playing with the bow, but i just put athena's deflect on the special, got the hammer that makes the special fire 100% more arrows, and held out for ares's wrath. beat the hydra for the first time in a long time

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 10:12 PM

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I think my favourite boon by far has to be the rift blades

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These suckers can shred through anything with the right amount of upgrades

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It is especially helpful in the Hydra boss fight

limber grail Mar 14, 2019, 10:14 PM

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tried out gun just now and it doesn't fit my playstyle but fun

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I do like it

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If you get the infinite ammo and fast shots

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It's pretty good

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 10:15 PM

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It wasn't my fastest clear time for the whole run, but my fastest hydra fight was with the sword. I had world splitter, Arty attack, more Arty crit boons, a chaos boon that gave about +70% attack, and about +8/9% damange from butterfly pin

limber grail Mar 14, 2019, 10:15 PM

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yeah it's very fun to play

turbid needle Mar 14, 2019, 10:15 PM

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But the chance of getting both of those boons

limber grail Mar 14, 2019, 10:16 PM

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i mean i usually go spear but it's nice to try things out

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 10:20 PM

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Pushing to keep my count of clears even across all weapons. When the next weapon comes out... 💦
Time will be spent.

shadow heath Mar 14, 2019, 10:28 PM

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the gun is my favorite weapon by far

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i was a shield girl before, but hestia is my favorite goddess and that weapon is amazing

plucky oxide Mar 14, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I like how it chugs. The sounds feel very good, and unique.

limber grail Mar 14, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Learning the rythm of it is satisfying imo

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Shooting and q and r and such

shadow heath Mar 14, 2019, 10:30 PM

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the only thing i don't like about it is how it does nothing against louts

limber grail Mar 14, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Or well special and recharging

hard holly Mar 14, 2019, 10:32 PM

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The only issue I have with it is how limited your choices are

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Its Dio or Zeus

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Pre-shotgun nerf you couldve also used Athena or Poseidon with that hammer upgrade

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But now even that isnt very efficient

shadow heath Mar 14, 2019, 10:32 PM

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that's fair

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i don't mind cos i can always put the other gods on my dash and cast

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i have a use for everyone

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except...maybe........aphrodite?

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oh no no i use her dash a lot nvm

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 10:35 PM

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I got Pos special with the gun just now

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And also a looooot of poms

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Ended up with something like 216% bonus damage on the mortar

shadow heath Mar 14, 2019, 10:36 PM

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damn

cerulean orchid Mar 14, 2019, 10:36 PM

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which is kinda a lot

ruby hollow Mar 14, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Okay I need to know. I have done like 8 runs since the last update and still havent run inot any duo boon. Am I doing something wrong?

green birch Mar 14, 2019, 10:51 PM

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No just unlucky, had the same issue on my end. I don’t know if there are more prereqs to it besides needing one boon from each god

ruby hollow Mar 14, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Alright. I'll keep trying then. Thank you x)

serene isle Mar 14, 2019, 11:09 PM

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Hey everyone. Edgy Thanos boy won't show up and I couldn't give him brosia. What's his trinket

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And what do duo boons do

ruby hollow Mar 14, 2019, 11:11 PM

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pierced butterfly: you gain 1% dmg for every chamber you complete without taking damage at base rank

shadow copper Mar 14, 2019, 11:11 PM

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does it reset when you take damage

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i haven’t used it yet lol

ruby hollow Mar 14, 2019, 11:12 PM

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I dont think so? Havent used it either

serene isle Mar 14, 2019, 11:12 PM

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I assume it goes up to 3%

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That's pretty. . .ok. Not too good

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since there's only like what 26 chambers?

raven lintel Mar 14, 2019, 11:19 PM

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it goes up to 2%

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it's 1.5% at rank 2

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it does apply to all damage though, but at least in my 120 heat runs there's just no reason to run it over skull earring or w/e meg's is

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that just gives you 40% straight up when you're damaged lol

atomic panther Mar 14, 2019, 11:23 PM

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It doesn't reset when you take damage, and it doesn't apply to all damage, just most. Dash boons that deal damage are unaffected (at least, Poseidon's is)

primal folio Mar 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

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god there's something really satisfying about knowing your progression doesn't all just come from mirror upgrades

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I started a new file and even with like literally nothing on the mirror unlocked except for a second dash and a death defiance I'm already at the Hydra

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after like

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under 10 runs?

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

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yeah!!! i beat the hydra on my third run when i started a new file not too long ago

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to be fair that was also with vicious skewer spear

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but you know

primal folio Mar 14, 2019, 11:36 PM

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oh I don't think I can beat it I just like that I've improved

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im running uuhhhh

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

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kgjhfgd STILL THAT'S GOOD PROGRESS

primal folio Mar 14, 2019, 11:37 PM

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hold on

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441329963044700160/555897308802449419/unknown.png

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I already spent my death defiance and I only have like, 3 trinkets now

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Wish me luck

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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GOOD LUCK

primal folio Mar 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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if I get a Hydra clear on 0 defiances, 90 HP, and on my first try I'll be

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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🍀

primal folio Mar 14, 2019, 11:39 PM

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I'll die

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but like,

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in a cool way

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 11:40 PM

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zagreus died doing what he loved: fighting giant lava snakes

primal folio Mar 14, 2019, 11:40 PM

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welp!

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I made it past the first stage!

lost rose Mar 14, 2019, 11:40 PM

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👏

primal folio Mar 14, 2019, 11:40 PM

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that's about it tho

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still tho taking down the two heads with 0 defiances aint bad

pearl willow Mar 14, 2019, 11:47 PM

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man 'twin shot' for the bow isn't kidding about reduced range, it's like cut in half lol

autumn tapir Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 AM

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finally I've beaten hydra with every weapon

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now to begin farming heat

radiant night Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Ooh congrats 👀

kind marten Mar 15, 2019, 1:17 AM

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I really don't like how reloading while standing still roots you in place even though you can reload on the run now. It might be to save on transition animations, but it feels so weird. It makes quick dashing while reloading feel so stunted. Also, do you need permission to post in feedback?

forest marsh Mar 15, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Read the pinned message in the #hades-feedback channel for instructions

kind marten Mar 15, 2019, 1:20 AM

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thank you, thank you. I had read it. I just apparently skimmed over the one bullet point that was important to the issue at hand.

quaint gale Mar 15, 2019, 1:52 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/jt7jxwO.jpg well, this was...a build

Imgur

shadow copper Mar 15, 2019, 1:55 AM

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that’s what i’d call a Unit

regal nexus Mar 15, 2019, 2:46 AM

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I think they might've overbuffed thanatos, he just kept casting the instakill aoe on the enemy spawn points so they died as soon as they spawned lol

forest marsh Mar 15, 2019, 2:48 AM

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Yeah, I'm not sure why it was buffed... I thought Thanatos was fast enough already

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

lost rose Mar 15, 2019, 2:49 AM

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maybe we're not really supposed to win unless we're like

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buffed to hell and back

forest marsh Mar 15, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Zag: Buff as hell?

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Thanatos just wants you to be more swole?

mighty vapor Mar 15, 2019, 2:50 AM

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#buffzag2019

forest marsh Mar 15, 2019, 2:50 AM

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SG please don't make light of body dysmorphia

plush blaze Mar 15, 2019, 2:51 AM

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wack

copper berry Mar 15, 2019, 2:53 AM

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You either die a relatively fit gym goer, or live long enough to realize you will never be as big as you want. limesFeels

mighty vapor Mar 15, 2019, 2:57 AM

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Damn, then I guess it's time to lift impossibly heavy weights in order to get as big as I want, or die trying

tender zephyr Mar 15, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Welp, first 60 heat run was a failure.

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Stupid lava

mellow aurora Mar 15, 2019, 4:47 AM

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does the bow feel off to anyone else?

hollow totem Mar 15, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Uh the dash attack window is a bit stricter?

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@mellow aurora

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that's all i noticed

wary jacinth Mar 15, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Is there anyone who likes the rail firing empty shots instead of auto reloading when out of ammo

forest marsh Mar 15, 2019, 4:49 AM

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I don't think the window has changed in a long time?

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I love bow, doesn't feel off to me

wary jacinth Mar 15, 2019, 4:49 AM

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like there is no skill in simply pressing R3

mellow aurora Mar 15, 2019, 4:49 AM

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i think its the window too

forest marsh Mar 15, 2019, 4:49 AM

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Unless something was altered in this latest small patch, but it wasn't in the patch notes if so

wary jacinth Mar 15, 2019, 4:49 AM

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all it does is that it makes it super annoying

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adding a tedious layer to its gameplay

mellow aurora Mar 15, 2019, 4:51 AM

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i actually rushed to use the railgun after the patch and didnt bother to look at the button prompt tutorial and i was so discombobulated

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i thought they ruined the rail gun until i realized they made the reload button r3

wary jacinth Mar 15, 2019, 4:52 AM

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my point is that firing empty shots has no challenge, it is simply an annoyance, every gun in every game auto reloads when out of ammo