#h1-builds-and-combat

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merry jungle
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blender mortars ๐Ÿ˜„

cerulean orchid
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Nah Ares special just does bonus damage a bit later

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Now if it could spawn blade rifts, THEN bow would be OP

hollow totem
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Artemis special with the bow

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Is pretty clean

hard holly
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Honestly if all of his attacks caused blade rifts

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Ares would be a whole lot more appealing

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As it is, you should really never pick his attack or special upgrades

hollow totem
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They're fine

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The real issue is they dont build into anything else

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You need poems

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Poms

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Where as the rifts can improve

hard holly
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Its more that Ares has to compete with the other gods in those slots

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And he loses

pastel jolt
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@cerulean orchid do you play with whipped frenzy on?

cerulean orchid
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Nah I've mostly gone for prices and health up

pastel jolt
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ah

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suicidal skeletons is usually more of an issue with WF on, but it does happen sometimes without

cerulean orchid
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I mean I don't know if it's a bad thing

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Or a good thing

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It's just a thing

subtle shale
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imho Ares curse boons are actually quite good, it's just you have to treat them differently than the others since weapon damage doesn't do anything for them

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Bow and Shield special do wonders with Ares because those normally do weak damage at a range but then can coat entire rooms with the curse

merry jungle
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I will say Ares boon is best on shield in general

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Maybe why I like shield the most

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That said this mortar thing is fun as eff

subtle shale
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the main problem I find with Ares boons is because they don't upgrade "naturally" without Poms, where everything else can get bonus damage via Chaos/Hammer/whatever, it feels like an early game stomper that falls off late game if you don't dedicate yourself to it

hard holly
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Thats part of it

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The fact that they already get outclassed without scaling on half of the weapons makes matters worse

worn fulcrum
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They can be boosted by Hammer boons

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If you have 'attack does 500% damage to armor' + Ares attack, the curse does bonus damage to armor too

hard holly
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Yeah but were talking more sniper shot, ranged shot, etc.

merry jungle
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I thought we were talking in general about the boons

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right now mortars easily my fave thing in the game, this is just funny

cerulean orchid
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I think for mob clearing and widespread damage, yes Ares bow special is good. But for a shotgun playstyle it's not so effective

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I feel like Dio can do all the mob stuff, BUT is also more effective against bigger targets

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Although I'd probably have to do some maths to see if the blight dps is higher than the curse and ugh i do not want to right now

hasty mauve
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Only good ares stuff is dash cast and revenge I'd say

worn fulcrum
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Diyo and Ares do almost the same thing

hasty mauve
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But it really depends on your run and playstyle

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Dio and ares do not do the same thing

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Other one is a growing dot

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Ares is kinda like another auto attack

hard holly
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Also Urge to Kill

worn fulcrum
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They're flat +damage on hit, with Ares being max 1/curse duration and Diyo being max 5/ blight duration

merry jungle
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nooooo I lost to hydra ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hard holly
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And they have sort of similiar roles

hasty mauve
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Dio is a faster dot though ๐Ÿค”

hard holly
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But Dio is better by a wide margin

hasty mauve
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Isn't it

hard holly
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The big thing is that Dio is a buff that rewards fast attacking, low damage weapons

hasty mauve
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And doesn't get as close to a big chunk hit

merry jungle
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turns out mortars not as effextive vs hydra without appropriate buffs

hard holly
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Athena and the like reward slow attacking, high damage weapons

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Ares would reward low damage, slow attacking weapons, but

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Why use those?

worn fulcrum
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That's actually a bit of a misnomer

cerulean orchid
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If you don't get too deep down a god's path then they're roughly similar, it's just bonus damage. But Dio eventually gives you buffs vs drunk people and Ares juuuust... gives you +10% attack/cast damage?

worn fulcrum
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Ares wants something that can proc Curse as much as possible since the damage doesn't scale by weapon

merry jungle
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Hypnos telling Meg to dodge more XD

cerulean orchid
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Nah but you can only have one curse on at a time

hard holly
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Sure, but then that weapon also has to not be better with the other boons

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If the weapon attacks fast, its Dio time

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If the weapon does high damage, athena or poseidon

merry jungle
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I dunno shield attacks fast but I find Aeris is great on shield just due to low base damage

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mind I prefer the blender options

cerulean orchid
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I think the problem is that there is an upper limit to curse dps

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Like in terms of how quickly you can get the next proc

hard holly
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Yup

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Also on shield, regular attack is better with the other gods

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Special just isnt really worth using at all

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Unless you have mirage flight

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Or phantom flight?

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Cant recall what its name was

merry jungle
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shield special is probably one of my faves

worn fulcrum
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Right, so where Ares boon is comparatively best is something that hits multiple targets for a low amount of damage about as often as the curse takes to proc (high damage would make Athena better, more frequent would make Zeus / Diyo better, etc)

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And it's possible the numbers are tuned such that even in that ideal case, something else is still better, but I don't think so

merry jungle
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I will say peer pressure on the new god seems nutty

hard holly
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Thats basically it, yeah

merry jungle
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Maybe they major nerfed the boat battle but with peer pressure I legit did that in seconds while taking next to no damage

hard holly
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The problem is less the tuning of the numbers

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And more that such a skill/weapon just isnt worth using

merry jungle
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Again disagree shield special with multi bounce and ares cleares waves incredibly fast and is pretty free. (takes legit no skill)

cerulean orchid
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I've just realised something - Ares and Dio boon trees kinda suck. Not like that what they do is bad, but they just don't synergise with each other

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Like the blight wine and festive fog are the two main things for Dio

worn fulcrum
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Most of the gods have two subthemes, right?

hard holly
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Id say it cleares waves incredibly slowly

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Even with an epic boon, youd need like 3 hits just to clear a non-armoured bloodless

cerulean orchid
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But like his legendary only does stuff with half the kit

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Same with Ares, there's not much going on with the curse side of things higher up, it's all just blade rifts

merry jungle
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I've not seen Dio's legendary yet

hard holly
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Thats not inherently a bad thing

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Athenas upgrades later have nothing to do with deflects either

hasty mauve
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Dio is the only legendary I haven't seen

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Athenas Legendary is really boring

cerulean orchid
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Athena's is sort of it's own thing

hasty mauve
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Aphrodites is just bad.

merry jungle
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I actually just dislike Aphrodites in general tbh

worn fulcrum
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Diyo's legendary needs you to use Fog and Blight - I think it ties the kit together well.?

cerulean orchid
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Zeus, Arty, Aphro legendaries all proc on everything

pastel jolt
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dio's legendary is bonus damage to blighted foes that are in fog

hasty mauve
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Oh

pastel jolt
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Blight Wine-afflicted foes take bonus damage in Festive Fog.

cerulean orchid
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Wait it does?

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ooohhhh

hasty mauve
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So it could work well with cast build on dio with blight on rail

cerulean orchid
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i thought it was just they took bonus damage in it no matter what

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ok hush my mouth about Dio then

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But for Ares at least, getting the curse doesn't really go anywhere

merry jungle
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Is there a charm that makes poms more common or stronger? That would be neat with Ares tbh

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Question what is a good build for spear as I just can't beat Hydra with spear

hasty mauve
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Well ๐Ÿค”

merry jungle
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I thinK i just suck at spear

hasty mauve
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Zeus used to be op

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Special builds are pretty good now

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With Vicious Skewer

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I like going Dio with flurry though

hard holly
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You do extra damage if you say MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA MUDA

hasty mauve
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You do even more damage if you yell ORA everytime you hack with Word Splitter

native swallow
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I quite like ares for the rail

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Just hit and run

hard holly
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Dio is better for that

native swallow
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Sort of

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I found aeres better at 120 against bosses

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Especially the hydra

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Also the mortar is nicer with curse I think

hard holly
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Actually, its outclassed by Athena

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Its 30 damage vs 36 damage

hasty mauve
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Ares is real good for heat runs

hard holly
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And Dios base damage on just a single hit is just half that of Ares

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So if you do 2 hits

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Youre already doing better

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Do 3 hits, and youre considerably ahead

worn fulcrum
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You can't hit twice with mortar before the first dot falls off though I think

hard holly
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Oh I mean on regular attack

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On mortar Dios buff is real bad

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You just go Athena on mortar

native swallow
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The issue with athena is that on high heat runs you run the risk of getting her dash

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since you only get one shot

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and I cant play with that dash

hard holly
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Fair, but Poseidons % value is the same

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So you can also get the special upgrade of poseidon

native swallow
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Sure thats why when I was running my 120 runs I just rerolled off of both of them

hard holly
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I cant imagine you would want Poseidon on a rail run though

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At that point youd just go for Dio and roll the dice

native swallow
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I ignored the boons really

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I went for poms over everything

hasty mauve
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Seems guchi

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75 hp pool

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๐Ÿ˜„

hard holly
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Im guessing thats an epic boon?

native swallow
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rare

subtle shale
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I think personally Zeus and Ares both would benefit from taking some of their damage from your weapon, but it still wouldn't really make Ares Curse appealing on fast weapons when Dio exists

hard holly
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Oh yeah, I guess it could be rare

subtle shale
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the main advantage I guess would be the burst damage from it versus being DoT

hard holly
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In theory, but if you just get 5 stacks

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Its burst isnt that much lower either

subtle shale
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yeah

hard holly
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Itd be 45 damage per half-second

subtle shale
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Blight Wine is just obscenely strong right now in general on fast stuff

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Zeus at least could use the weapon damage so he's a desirable choice again for regular attack

native swallow
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It is fun to have zeus legendary +his dash though

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just to see all the lightning everywhere

subtle shale
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Zeus cast is also amazing

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oh hey a Numbskull spawner, it would be a shame if I just pressed B and deleted everything

cerulean orchid
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thought - stand in a lava pool with Ares' Curse of Vengeance

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It procs on every tick of the lava

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so you take very little damage and dish out a lot, very quickly

subtle shale
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omg

pastel jolt
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the lava damage stacks up though

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it isn't always that low

cerulean orchid
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You can dash in and out though to reset it right?

pastel jolt
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yeah but it takes a bit to reset

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i wouldn't rely on it for damage

light nova
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I really need to ask you all ๐Ÿ˜„ Guys, did i said something wrong in feedback last time or it's just my bad english? I mean when i use Sudden Sunder, my dash from it uses similar to usual dash and it's uncomfortable, isnt it? And if you change setting of dash to cursor it changes dash for special. It makes me crazy. I just want some convenience in gameplay. Or i ask something stupid, i really cant understand.

hasty mauve
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I am not sure what you mean in the feedback ๐Ÿ˜„

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That's probably the cause of all the ๐Ÿ‘Ž

shy void
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guys they remove the option to the Special of the shield to get the upgrade of Ares??

atomic panther
hasty mauve
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Level 2 lightning strike

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LUL

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The 7 damage ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

atomic panther
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Technically two at epic, but after party never actually did anything so ๐Ÿคท

hasty mauve
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ah true

native swallow
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I guess you werent a very deadly snail that run

atomic panther
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Quite the contrary; I was really slow but I always cleared the room, and only died once (in the boss room) so I think I qualify for snail status

green birch
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Gamer snails go off

atomic panther
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๐ŸŒ ๐ŸŽฎ Snamer

hasty mauve
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๐ŸŒ All hail the true overlord

native swallow
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๐ŸŒ

atomic panther
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Snoverlord

pastel jolt
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can we please not do this again

hasty mauve
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Just a tiny little bit

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I guess we must perform a secret snail cult somewhere else ๐Ÿค”

latent badger
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You know those boons that say enemies take damage when you take damage? Do those proc on chaos hits?

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Like if I have a "suffer 4 damage every time you dash"

hasty mauve
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Not sure

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Never tried

cerulean orchid
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huh

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that would actually be a pretty cool run to see

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A semi-suicidal 'the only one that can kill me is myself' kinda run

latent badger
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Yes, except that chaos cannot directly kill you. Hopefully I can turn this into a cracked glass cannon build.

hasty mauve
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You can't die to chaos ?

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๐Ÿค”

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Good to know

latent badger
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Not the damage you when you do x boons

cerulean orchid
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Oooh

atomic panther
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This is the most wild strategy ever, and I am intrigued as to how it runs

cerulean orchid
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Just wait until a 'do more damage at lower health' upgrade

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And one-shot everything, including yourself

latent badger
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Imagine if you got more than one damage me, damage you boons and then a suffer damage on dash chaos boon.

cerulean orchid
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Can you get more than one?

latent badger
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Charons bone trinket would be very useful

hasty mauve
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Take damage dashing

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Just dash

atomic panther
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You can in fact get multiple vengeance boons

hasty mauve
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INdeed

latent badger
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Much pain, much gain

atomic panther
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There's one each for Athena, Ares, Zeus, and Aphrodite

cerulean orchid
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There's Zeus, Ares, Aphro, Athena?

atomic panther
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Ye

cerulean orchid
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And like

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decent ones can do at least 100 damage

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so

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every time you dash

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you just deal 400 damage to the nearest thing?

latent badger
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Something like that.

hasty mauve
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That's something

cerulean orchid
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Don't they work differently though? Ares does it in a circle around you, and the others damage the attacker don't they?

latent badger
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The best chaos boon would be one that gives you death defiance as well. Cause youre running around at 1 hp, death defi becomes a literal 1up

atomic panther
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Zeus is the only one that directly damage the attacker, the rest are in a circle around you

latent badger
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Lol if the zeus boon kills you

atomic panther
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Zeus: I'll mess up the next person to hurt my nephew
Zagreus: <Deals damage to himself by dashing>
Zeus: ๐ŸŒฉ

cerulean orchid
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I enjoy figuring out new ways to break the game

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And with so much variety, there's so many possibilities!

latent badger
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Yep me too. Especially because everything that is fun gets nerfed

cerulean orchid
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wait

hasty mauve
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Only a week left

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Until the update

cerulean orchid
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if he deals damage to himself by dashing or whatev

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then he does Zeus's thing

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which then damages himself

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which then does Zeus' thing

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Which damages him again

latent badger
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He becomes pikachu

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hopefully it's AOE

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or you get the zeus ultimate that sends out bolts

green birch
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Finished a 5 heat run! Baby steps....

grand patrol
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eeeey nice!!!!

hard holly
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Hold on, if Zeus would work on the chaos boons in their debuff form

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That should cause an infinite loop

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Unless it counts Zeus as the one who attacked you

grand patrol
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zag: dashes
zag: hurts himself bc chaos boon
zeus: how dare someone hurt zag
zeus: (revenge damage hits zag)

hard holly
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In which case we are able to hit Zeus

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Or rather

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Force him to punch himself in the face

grand patrol
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why you hitting yourself

hollow totem
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Zag confirmed masochist

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?????

atomic panther
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Zeus doesn't damage Zag, I don't even think the vengeance boons work at all when you damage yourself; this was just a fun hypothetical

limber elbow
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Hi guys/girls! I have a quick question. Any way to un-equip your only keepsake since it doesn't synergies well with the weapon that you are currently using?

forest marsh
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No, not at the moment

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You'd have to get a different keepsake to equip in order to change it

limber elbow
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Thanks wighfyre, I feared so. Guess I have to save next ambrosia for Athena.

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Am I the only one who finds the sword and shield the best weapons?

atomic panther
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Not at all! They're less popular than bow and spear (or the secret fifth weapon, Gun) but they're still remarkably fun and interesting

violet dove
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Bow is my least favorite weapon, I think the shield is the best

atomic panther
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I prefer sword bc the special is a big splosion ๐Ÿ’ฅ

violet dove
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I like the shield because of the rush

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And the captain America special is pretty good if you get the right upgrades

atomic panther
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That's valid!

wide maple
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Captain Thor

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Captain AmericThor

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Captain Thorica

formal hill
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I beat the hydra for the first time with shield ;3;

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stupidest build lmao

forest marsh
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Congrats!

formal hill
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thanks!

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this run was kinda iffy

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but its better than my first LMAO

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that was my first ever run ๐Ÿ˜‚

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beatign it i mean

forest marsh
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Ha ha yeah I remember seeing that shadeohboy

subtle shale
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so trhe Aphrodite legendary works on the Mega Gorgon

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I managed to charm the crusher into smashing the gorgon

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was probably the most satisfying thing I've ever seen short of charming the entire Murderboat

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I need to experiment now with Dio and Aphro synergies because if I can get Peer Pressure onto things that are charmed, and thus running towards other enemies...

regal nexus
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Well that was a pleasant surprise, decided to start trying 145 heat runs while recording and actually got it the first attempt

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Praise poseidon knockback special

proud storm
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Wish i were you

heavy solstice
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@regal nexus welcome to the hottest club shadesmile

proud storm
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Did you have whipped frenzy

green musk
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tbh zeus should do a little more with the special from the bow

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not spawn an orb every shot

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but more than one lol

regal nexus
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Thanks! And nope, all but whipped frenzy and random selection on

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If whipped didn't affect enemy attack speed it'd be a different story, but it sure isn't worth the 20 heat right now.

brazen sphinx
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yo i reloaded around infernal gate (before the room being cleared) and it applied! i don't think it's intended xD

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so i just rerolled fated authority on that bug, and it changed again; two of the challenge reward being overlapped

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the one that i rerolled before room clear was in front, new reroll after the room clear behind

errant narwhal
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please report bugs in-game with F10!

brazen sphinx
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oh i forgot that and closed the gaem ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

cerulean orchid
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When did inferno bombers drop 3 bombs before jumping away?

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I swear that's changed suddenly

hasty mauve
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Always ?

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They did that on the chaos update I think

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๐Ÿค”

cerulean orchid
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I have literally only noticed them start doing it since yesterday

hasty mauve
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Strange

pastel jolt
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i've seen them do it a lot, it's not a recent change

subtle shale
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I do wish they telegraphed it a bit more

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even without Whipped Frenzy if you're in melee range of them sometimes it's just like "well there's like 30 damage"

cerulean orchid
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Yeah I was doing exactly what I always do with them - spamming bow special at point blank - and suddenly he just jumped off and I took 36 damage

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Never happened before

subtle shale
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"Time to blow this place, nyeeeaaahehehehehehaaa!" ~ Inferno Bomber, probably

hollow totem
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My only goal

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IS TO BLOW UP

grand patrol
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AND THEN ACT
LIKE I DONT KNOW NOBODY

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NEHEHEHEHEHEHE

subtle shale
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Dread Flight is so fun but also so wonky

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I launched my shield like four times at a mob in front of me and it would hit the first enemy and then fly off to hit some other enemy literally off screen instead of the Inferno Bomber right next to the first guy and I'm like

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really

safe mesa
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i somehow got two vengeance boons

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one from zeus, one from ares

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so i was dealing almost 300 damage every time i got hit

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i also had like 6 death defiances because i had skelly's keepsake and i found two in the well

native swallow
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Ah the classic "why are you hitting yourself" build

cerulean orchid
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@subtle shale yeah I've found that the 'bouncy' skills don't really like certain types of enemies. I think they might? have a priority system, cause I swear whenever I use it against the hydra it'll always hit the main head no matter what, and never go for the little fire spawny things

subtle shale
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it also decided to hit like, tons of level geometry when fighting Megagorgon

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like it went for all the destroyable pillars and stuff

tiny pollen
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is it just me or does the Dino cast absolutely wreck rooms?

subtle shale
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You mean **dusa Party Timedusa **?

tiny pollen
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I mean the booze bombs

subtle shale
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Yeah those are really good

autumn tapir
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does Bad Influence apply to the Blight Wine that triggers it?

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because if so that is mildly irritating

pastel jolt
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.......you know, i'm not sure

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like, my first instinct as to say "no, BI would only apply to damage zag does" - but it doesn't say that. but then, i don't know if blight wine damage can change while it's stacked

autumn tapir
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blight wine is kinda difficult to judge because different boons apply different damages of blight wine

hard holly
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Bad Influence is the one that causes your damage to go up if you have 3 enemies with blight wine, right?

pastel jolt
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yeah

hard holly
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If so, then yes, it does increase the blight win damage

autumn tapir
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darn
my reasoning for that being annoying is because it makes it harder to keep Bad Influence

subtle shale
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Cuz everything with BW dies too quick?

ember lotus
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I read vicious skewer was the real deal on here and y'all weren't kidding. I beat my highest time score from before the January nerf to Hunters dash, with Divine flourish, pressure point, and clean kill while under shared misery and death insurance. Took me from 16:40 to 16:15.

hasty mauve
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Throw

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Damages

subtle shale
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inb4 nerf

frigid rain
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I gotta say, I do really love the idea of death defiance over just adding a big chunk of health
Defiance is something you can rebound with, while just dying feels like it means a bit more?

fossil moat
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Thoughts on the Dionysus boon that gives max hp for ambrosia?

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Always keep avoiding it since I wasn't sure of the worth in a run, even if epic tier

dusky quartz
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The ambrosia boon is quite good, I don't see why you would avoid it

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Especially once you understand than ambrosia door nearly only pops with keys darkness or heat, so things who don't help for the current run.

shell finch
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and you can reroll for ambrosia

fossil moat
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true

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hmm

dusky quartz
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The hearts for 25 are good, unless you're rolling on the mobs, and the boon is better than that.

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or course if you're at level 23, it's not the same

fossil moat
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would help in high heats runs i suppose, since the health gain isnt reduced by the defect

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alright, thanks lads

hollow totem
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@frigid rain def theres something about zag sayin "last chance" that just makes it feel better

frigid rain
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Yeah!
And like getting to the Hydra with all 3 death defiance feels way better than getting to hydra with 60 health or so

icy edge
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Getting to hydra with 5 death defiance feels better

loud trout
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I'm getting bomb traps landing in weird places where they instantly explode. Anyone else getting this?

austere pebble
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I thought they exploded if they reached an area they cannot rest ๐Ÿค”

loud trout
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I was just curious if that's how they were supposed to work.
So its like 90% of the time the bomb lands on a normal spot, and then there's that one bomb that lands in a place it can't be planted.

subtle shale
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I had a Slam Dancer hit me for a huge chunk of my health while I was spear stunning it and it wasn't armored

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also I feel like the exploding spear special needs to be less...bad

hollow totem
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its actually decent

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but it heavily depends on the god boon

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Athena, ares, artemis, aphro

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all do well

subtle shale
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Yeah I just got an upgrade for it like one room before hydra so it didnโ€™t get to help me much

hollow totem
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That is the big unlucky

fossil moat
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try bouncing spear w/ zues boon

light nova
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Is it real to pass Hydra with sword and 100+ heat?

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I feel like i handless or something like it

hollow totem
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Ugh people have done it

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And I've reached the hydra like 2 times

subtle shale
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Itโ€™s hard because sword is like...gimped compared to everything else still

hollow totem
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Ehh

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I like the sword

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It's like the second weakest weapon in the game imo

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The hammer upgrades being world splitter or nothing is what kinda drags to sword down

subtle shale
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Which is a shame because Empowered Nova is like my favorite hammer upgrade in the whole game

unborn spire
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I actually love the sword. I hated it at first and now it's my favorite weapon. World Splitter, Flurry Blade and Empowered Nova make it tons of fun to use and it doesn't feel weak at all.

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Well, "at first" being after Lifedrinker was taken out. I managed to do one Lifedrinker run before it was removed and, wow, yes it trivialized everything.

hollow totem
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Life drinker was

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Omega broken

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Yuh

proud storm
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remember the shield's peerless parry

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that was back when it had innate deflect

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+500% to deflected damage on parry

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something like that

coarse hare
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Hi, I'm relatively new to the game. Is there currently a point in giving ambrosia after getting the keepsake? Or should I just trade it in for other stuff.

pastel jolt
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giving your friends nice things and talking to them more!!

coarse hare
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Haha I'd love to spoil my favorite characters, but just wondering if there are any extra perks on top of that ๐Ÿ˜› To me it would make sense that gods that have a better relationship with you will show up more frequently, but then that might cause situations where other gods end up never showing up...

hollow totem
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Ugh

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I hate how tenebrous veil makes it impossible for you to get a dash boon

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is that intentional?

chrome viper
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Probably not

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I get dash boons regularly as my first boon

hollow totem
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With tenebrous veil?

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Its always locked

turbid needle
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I feel Tenebrous veil should randomize the order of the locked out boons, making it so only the top one is available is a bit boring and randomizing order is much more in the spirit of a rougelite

gloomy scroll
violet stirrup
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thanatos and furies right

lime flint
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feedback seems locked for now (since patch is OTW?)

grand patrol
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yeah, it'll be reopened next patch!

lime flint
#

so on that note... anyone else feel like sniper shot (Bow Daedalus) could use a little more spice? I feel like "bonus damage to far away enemies" is a decent starting point, but the bow's basic attack rewards lining enemies up and it feels conflict-of-interesty

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i wonder if it'd be fun to up the damage ramp massively but take away piercing

subtle shale
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I like that idea as a concept

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also has anybody noticed Brimstones randomly getting through the shield block?

radiant night
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Kind of? I always thought it was my own fault though

subtle shale
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nah I was just standing right in front of one and it's laser knocked me out of the block

radiant night
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Wait it literally knocked you out of it?

subtle shale
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yeah like the first hit damaged me and often taking damage stops the block

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bonus points: I was in a Heat challenge room

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there was a second time (also in a Heat challenge room) where I bull rushed into a Lout from behind, which staggered it, but somehow it's charge went through and damaged me anyway despite it being successfully staggered and behind me by the time I took damage

radiant night
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i...th.ats....

tawny ivy
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yea i just did a shield run and Bull Rush makes louts teleport on occasion

icy edge
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@subtle shale i hate louts with a passion on shield runs - always a 10% chance they just hurt me anyway despite the shield

bold finch
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I've acctually done my first all-clear with the bow (wich is my least favored weapon). It was actually nice, but I have to admit that I liked it only because of actually good boons from the start. Deadelus with the rapid fire (no charging time and power shot), some Poseidon buff on the attack and athena deflect on the special. It was easy, but I can't shake the feeling that witout that lucky Daedalus Hammer in the first chamber I would have hated all of it.

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I really, really don't like the chargning time on the normal attack for the bow. Doesn't feel like the power shot is good enough for the time you need to actually use it. It's fine during Tartarus, but a nightmare in Asphodel

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(sorry for the many typos)

torn dragon
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U can speed up charge time with dash attack

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Btw It feels good when u get used to the dash-powershot rhythm

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Like a ninja sniper boi

subtle shale
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Rapid shot is nice tho

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I got Ares Attack on rapid once and it melted everything

green birch
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But consider: relentless barrage + Athena special

lime flint
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I think the "problem" not-problem with the bow is it only feels good with a super fast playstyle

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I'd like to see a Daedalus mod that encourages a slower, tactical play leveraging the non-dash attacked charge shot

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idk how to make that fun exactly but there's gotta be a way

chrome viper
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the one thing I don't like about Rapid Shot is that it removes the knockback so it's literally useless in high heat runs

forest marsh
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They've had various iterations of slow play bow upgrades, they are generally not well liked

cerulean orchid
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I've found that no matter what hammer upgrades or boons I get with the bow, I always end up spamming dash and special

coarse hare
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I have a really hard time using the bow against brimstones. By the time I'm done aiming and charging, it's already been lasering me and causing damage. The special is much faster but deals so little damage at a time.

lime flint
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maybe a slow-play version needs like bullet time to slow the enemies down? or a reduced aggro range?

#

hrrm

feral flower
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I'd love to be able to move while charging, even if it reduced my speed.

coarse hare
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Yeah being able to at least move slowly while charging would be nice

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For the shield you are protected from the front while charging its special, but with the bow you're basically sitting duck while charging

pastel jolt
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it's..... it's a ranged weapon?

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being unable to move while charging a bow shot has literally never been a problem to me

green birch
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Yโ€™all.
The secret to maximizing the damage with with the bow special
Is running right up to your opponentโ€™s face and hitting that special

coarse hare
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I've done that before and it's certainly satisfying. A bit of a risky move though if they don't die, since there's no knockback. Maybe I'm just not good enough to use it well ๐Ÿ˜†

cerulean orchid
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Oh yeah no the special isn't great at range unless you've got Dio or Ares

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So I do it at point blank

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Hence all the dashing

hollow totem
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The shotgun bow special is nice

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It just falls off vs armored enemies

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Which sucks

cerulean orchid
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Depends on the build I've found

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Obviously with the +300% vs armour or whatever it is it's super strong

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And getting twice as many arrows means twice as many damage

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You just gotta be a little more careful about spacing/timing, and try to backstab every time

proud storm
#

i imagine zag furiously running up to a shade's face and loading like 10 arrows in his bow at once ready to fire at point blank range

cerulean orchid
#

I only recently realised that the animation for it sort of lines up a bunch of arrows of light in the air that he fires off one by one

light nova
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How is it possible? 28 chambers

cerulean orchid
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Chaos chambers and the bonus heat ones?

light nova
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They in count?

cerulean orchid
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no idea

plain wren
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they are counted as chamber progression

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no idea how you got to 28

light nova
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Hmm

green birch
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Heat chambers count I believe, Chaos rooms donโ€™t

light nova
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I remember how i passed heat chamber once and choose Ares boon on exit then i was sent to big swiming platform

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but it was 26 chamber

forest marsh
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The 28 chamber thing has been around since the beginning hasn't it?

green birch
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No, a complete Hydra run is 27 rooms

proud storm
#

it's possible you got into a chaos room/erebus before a charon shop located right before a boss

forest marsh
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I mean the furthest chamber reached saying 28 sometimes

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Pretty sure that's been that way since the beginning

plush blaze
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Hydra is actually chamber 26

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Pretty sure that's consistent

forest marsh
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It is, yeah

plain wren
#

yea Hydra is 26 and the one after is technically 27, so the farthest chamber you should be able to reach is 27

night pasture
#

My uncle works at nintendo and he showed me the secret to get to chamber 30

errant narwhal
#

just took premium vintage in a trial for the first time

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and then got sunken treasure as the other boon, which gave me ambrosia

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wow

light nova
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So how many hp do u have?

errant narwhal
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well im about to fight the hydra now

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and i have 309

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im very bad at gun so im surprised

plush blaze
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grats alma starBlush

hard holly
#

I wonder how high the clear time thing can count

safe mesa
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gun is very hard

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my main weapon is the spear

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just like bastion

shell finch
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99:99:99 is the highest I've got

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game also crashed upon leaving hydra room with that time

shell finch
#

speaking of which, it would be great if the game could be paused automatically if no input for 30 secs (aside from boon choice/pom upgrade screens)

ornate tartan
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I have the 28 rooms one as well

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no idea on how I got it

safe trellis
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Same here. Getting to 28 rooms is definitely possible.

hollow totem
#

i am

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?

violet stirrup
hollow totem
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oh

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okay

violet stirrup
#

since thats more appropriate

iron magnet
#

I'm surprised I did as well as I did with SoC, seeing as this was a complete GARBAGE build.

hollow totem
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That builds okay

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I've seen worse

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sheild is

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๐Ÿ‘Œ

iron magnet
#

Just infinitely easier to cheese with bad builds with spear

lost rose
#

ggggghhhhhh i got SO CLOSE to beating the hydra on this 60 heat run just now

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i had extended range on the spear jab, there were two of the stompy heads left in the final head batch

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bc of the extended range i could just lurk outside their attack radius and chip away at their health

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but a hydra projectile got me because i had auto aim on the spear and when i tried to turn around to destroy the projectile zag attacked the head instead >>

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i keep getting sooooo close on these 60 heat runs like, i make it to the last phase of the hydra every time and then something gets me right at the last second

carmine briar
#

I feel so bad at this game when I play with any heat at all. Perhaps I'm too old or whatever, but I take so much damage with heat on.

subtle shale
#

I find for me it depends on what pact options Iโ€™m taking. Shared Misery and Pain Tolerance arenโ€™t too bad, but once you have those and Convenience Fee your choices narrow and youโ€™re forced to pump up their damage if you donโ€™t want Louts moving at Mach 10

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Sometimes itโ€™s mental too and you just psych yourself out because you see the number floating up there and youโ€™re like โ€œoh geez this is super hardโ€

old rivet
#

Whats the WR for fastest clear'

lost rose
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i think it's 5 minutes and change

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in-game time, 5:36

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real time 8:37

hard holly
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Wow

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Last I saw it was 8 minutes

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People sure optimized the hell out of it

lost rose
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A lot of it is rng too, i think

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Not getting survival rooms, etc

hard holly
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Naturally, its a roguelite

plush blaze
#

I hope survival rooms get a rework

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Ok gimme a sec I don't want to be murdered by proxy

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Basically I got halfway through a run and stopped at the midway point before the chaos update, and didn't play for a few days

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And then the update dropped with the timer and the end screen, I finished the run and got that time

green birch
#

Youโ€™ll do Hypnos a concern staying away from home that long!

plush blaze
#

It's definitely glitched even taking in to account the days I didn't play before the update, that's like almost 70 days

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No wait, that's minutes

grand patrol
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everyone started thinking he actually got to the surface and then hes like. nah

plush blaze
#

1675 minutes is 1.16 days so that checks out actually

lime flint
#

Anyone play with auto aim off? I wonder if it's worth learning

atomic panther
#

I turn it off when I'm playing with bow because the piercing attacks really matter exactly where you shoot

cursive citrus
#

i had not considered turning off auto aim tbh

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its kind of annoying sometimes

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just hit my highest dmg yet

forest marsh
#

Exploding Launcher?

cursive citrus
#

cheating with cyclops jerky

forest marsh
#

Ah, I had a 50/50 chance, wrong 100% of the time Kappa

cursive citrus
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the build is not great, no damage mitigation or survivability other than dont-get-hit

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fun to stack dmg tho

forest marsh
#

Don't need to worry about getting hit if you annihilate everything katesNice

cursive citrus
#

yeah this is 0 heat

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so nbd

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i started running a 0 heat streak for fun

#

full mirror

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just dismantling the game ๐Ÿ™‚

forest marsh
#

It can be satisfying to do that after running heat for a whle

cursive citrus
#

this update has been so much fun, i didnt expect to be still playing it right up to the next

icy edge
#

I played since chaos with auto aim off... but the dubious sprite alignment of the laser stones and hydra heads has me considering turning it on again just so i actually hit what im aiming at

cursive citrus
#

i turned it off for a bit just now

#

the hydra head sprite alignment is definitely a bit odd

#

i play with a graphics tablet tho, so might be a bit easier to adjust

iron magnet
#

Is there a reason that Dread Flight for SoC will never hit the same target more than once? It feels really weak when you're against a single target with a large health pool and it bounces all over the place against objects but hits the target once.

forest marsh
#

No reason that I know of, but it's the same for the Multi Skewer spear upgrade or whatever it's called, the one that does essentially the same thing

iron magnet
#

Also hurts when you build a Special shield throw build, to throw it at a single enemy then have to wait 6 seconds to attack because it's hitting a pot or wall offscreen

wet tartan
#

The whole screen blurs very slightly for a short while when I attack, is that on purpose?

iron magnet
#

I mean I don't get a blur persay but there is a small frame delay on each hit for me

#

Almost like time slows down for a moment

wet tartan
#

Like to save on the processing? Itโ€™s unnoticeable in combat, but when Iโ€™m out of combat I see it

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I think thatโ€™s to make the hits feel weightier? If there is a reason for that that is. But it sounds like a different matter

iron magnet
#

Honestly the legendary boon felt REALLY cheesy up until the last boss

#

I can even describe how sill the synergy was between that and Dread Flight

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**silly

neat comet
#

does the Unhealthy Fixation work on the lesser Hydra heads in the boss fight?

pliant hawk
#

does the Adamant Rail have a dash attack?

#

I got Hunter Dash thinking it did but I don't think it's doing anything

forest marsh
#

It does

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You fire off 2 rapid shots without an accuracy penalty, if memory serves

lost rose
#

The timing on dash attacks can be pretty tricky

#

It's easier to nail on kbm

forest marsh
#

I haven't found that myself, but your mileage may vary

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Just testing it out with the AR since I happen to be on an AR run. If you dash and then hold attack, you can tell that the first 2 shots are faster

pliant hawk
#

I have the hammer upgrade for faster shots with the larger clip

neat comet
#

really like the dash reload on the AR can make for some cool builds when you stack it with dash boons

tawny ivy
#

this build was very fun on the murderboat. lotsa breaking wave stuns ๐ŸŒŠ

atomic panther
#

Triple Bomb
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well

proud storm
#

Consider: hypnos as a secret boss fight

#

The idea is that he follows every stupid piece of advice he gives you and effortlessly beats you up

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"Have you tried not getting hit? Like this" (perfectly dodges every attack)

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"You should try killing this enemy before it does! Lemme show you" (instantly kills you)

hollow totem
#

Ahh yess

#

Even more reason to hate him

icy edge
#

Hypnos: Automatically reduces your current HP to zero cause that's how you beat your opponent.

Also Hypnos: Doesn't finish you off because he dozed off.

formal drum
#

@neat comet No, Unhealty fixation doesn't affect any hydra heads

neat comet
#

that would be a bit much I guess lol

plush blaze
#

So basically, sans?

grand patrol
#

skelly boss fight where he throws all the damage youve done to him over the game back at you

#

if youve never hit him you win instantly

cursive citrus
hasty mauve
#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

cursive citrus
#

lol i got timed out there for trying to post 2 links in a row

#

was just showing insanely lucky spear start

hasty mauve
#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

The boom cannon

cursive citrus
atomic panther
#

Nice

cursive citrus
#

run incredibly blessed

#

had a legendary boon in there

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hit over 850 dmg at points

#

i've only seen 2 legendary boons in like 100 runs

hasty mauve
#

Oh

#

I've seen all of them already ๐Ÿ˜„

#

It's about getting the right combinations of boons to even have them show up

cursive citrus
#

oh really?

#

that makes sense i suppose, i didnt realize tho

hasty mauve
#

Neither did I at first

#

Then someone told me about it here

cursive citrus
#

is there only 1 per god?

atomic panther
#

Ye

cursive citrus
#

i wish top dmg was a tracked stat on the victory screen

radiant night
#

Ooh that'd be cool

cursive citrus
hasty mauve
#

Nice ๐Ÿ˜„

atomic panther
#

I got to 1362 once by deflecting an attack with +500% enemy damage, backstab, +44% deflect damage, and +20% damage to weak enemies

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I didn't get a screenshot though because I didn't expect it to be that high orz

hasty mauve
#

๐Ÿ˜„

cursive citrus
#

hell yea

#

big numbers lgwHype

hasty mauve
#

Noice

cursive citrus
#

more boomstick action

green birch
#

Nice!

neat comet
#

I really didn't rate the blight wine early on but it's pretty nice in the right circumstance

#

should've rebound q to lmb lol

cursive citrus
#

is Q special?

#

i rebound everything immediately

hasty mauve
#

I still have the normal ones

#

๐Ÿค” I think they're quite good

cursive citrus
#

im sure they are for most

#

i just like WASD fingers to not have to leave

#

i use shift for cast and rclick for special

hasty mauve
#

Huh

cursive citrus
#

but i also use a graphics tablet so rclick = pen button, lclick = tap

hasty mauve
#

To each their own I guess ๐Ÿค”

cursive citrus
#

i used mouse up until a couple days ago

hasty mauve
#

One of my friend has a really weird keyboard setup on moba games

icy edge
#

Off topic lads

hasty mauve
#

What

#

This is all about Hades

#

๐Ÿ˜„

icy edge
#

If you continued, it wouldnt be

hasty mauve
#

Except one of my comments

#

It ended there though wonder13ROBBIT

icy edge
#

And thus, all is well

hasty mauve
#

Or is it shadeohboy

cursive citrus
icy edge
#

No, because update will release tomorrow evening for me and I am sad

hasty mauve
#

Hey

#

Tomorrow is the day it is released for me too

#

But at night, like almost on the 13th ๐Ÿ˜„

icy edge
#

Crit backstab straight to the patience

cursive citrus
#

im still having a good time without the update tizozzz

hasty mauve
#

I haven't played for almost the whole time of waiting for the update

#

Heh

cursive citrus
#

looking forwards to devouring some patch notes tho

hasty mauve
#

yaas

neat comet
#

definitely keen for some changes

formal hill
#

I think the only thing I haven't played with is Heat

cursive citrus
#

i did a lot of heat, mostly dying at absurdly high heat rather than pushing it up slowly

neat comet
#

^

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got my first win about a month ago and have spent the majority of my time with 25% enemies and darkness restrictions lol

cursive citrus
#

darkness restriction is the one i never touch

#

ill keep all my godly powers thx

neat comet
#

actually got the game to slow my computer down a bit in Asphodel

#

murderboat with extra enemies is quite the experience

cursive citrus
#

yas that and survival rooms with whipped frenzy

#

35% whipped frenzy and 40% spawns i find pretty doable though

#

is 30 heat, id like to get through all weapons with that level before the update

icy edge
#

I hate stifling darkness too

That said, I'm one of those lads who puts 300% more damage and plays with bow and forgets to use special

cursive citrus
#

tbh i dont get much use out of bow special unless its upgraded somehow

#

i use it for multi backstab at 0 range when i remember

neat comet
#

yeh shotgun strats basically

icy edge
#

I like high heat tho, cause it rewards being very very aware of the area and being light on your feet

#

Now its kinda too easy on zero heat cause on the few occasions I do get hit, its like 7 dmg

#

Instead of the usual 21

cursive citrus
#

my first heat run was like

#

2 tenebrous veil

#

so only 1 boon choice

#

then running spear and getting hella lucky

#

but yea no heat feels very easy now, i was streaking it yesterday

hasty mauve
#

I tried one run with maxed Heat

#

Not neat

cursive citrus
#

lmao

icy edge
#

Yeet

hasty mauve
#

The 5 mach louts

#

Dealing massive damage is something else

icy edge
#

Louts are too fast even without whipped frenzy xD

cursive citrus
#

i can handle whipped frenzy but

#

theres an adjustment period

#

where im like WHY am i being hit by EVERY lout, oh yea their timing is different

icy edge
#

Maybe i should do incremental runs

#

Just increase frenzy by 1 step every run

hasty mauve
#

0 healing 500 % enemy damage is pretty fun ๐Ÿ˜„

cursive citrus
#

ye thats what im doing now, pushing up from 20 instead of stubbornly bashing my head against 60

#

i would never be able to do no healing, im not consistent enough

hasty mauve
#

60 heat isn't that bad with the right heat stuff I'd say

icy edge
#

Like, +enemies is really easy for me

hasty mauve
#

I did beat Hydra with 80% healing

icy edge
#

But +health is a nightmare

cursive citrus
#

yea additional spans is fine

hasty mauve
#

So only going 0 healing wouldn't be bad I'd say

cursive citrus
#

fun even

hasty mauve
#

Just don't get hit

cursive citrus
#

megagorgon slaps me up every time unless i have great deflect

#

i hate those freeze projectiles

fast shardBOT
#

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

cursive citrus
#

bot pls

icy edge
#

Loool

hasty mauve
#

๐Ÿ˜„

subtle shale
#

So Iโ€™ve been out of the loop for a few days because DMC5 happened, any updates yet?

wet tartan
#

Later today/tonight depending on where you live

cursive citrus
dire mason
#

Or tomorrow! Schrodinger's update, dependent on time zone. ๐Ÿ˜„ Announced time is March 12 (PST).

random yew
#

oh sick

wet tartan
#

I love this game and I've had it less for two days and I'm really glad its dropping

random yew
#

I just finished my hundredth run

wet tartan
#

waitttt March 12 dangitttt

random yew
#

I now feel like I have played enough of the game to talk about it lol

wet tartan
#

I misread the timer haha

dire mason
#

No worries!! ๐ŸŽต One day more...

wet tartan
#

I wish, more than anything, more than life, I wish the update to drop sometime soon

random yew
#

if you've had the game for less than 2 days then you have a lot more to see regardless of when the update comes out ^_^

hasty mauve
#

Yeah but 1 day is still alot of time

trim ingot
#

update wait pain is real

ornate tartan
#

pain is for the weak -Zagreus | pain is but an obstacle -Achilles

wet tartan
#

I am weak and easily tormented by obstacles

covert grove
forest marsh
#

Incredible

gilded sandal
#

That's so fast! Is there any reason why you took that one hit in Chamber 1?

covert grove
#

Yea, getting hit there changes the enemy set for chamber 2 that can be killed much faster otherwise

gilded sandal
#

Woah, what? I had no idea that was an option. Great run and thanks for the answer

covert grove
#

No prob, it made a difference in that seed but might not in every.

forest marsh
#

Only 1097 more Darkness until I can afford my next hit of Fated Authority

#

I'm shakin' over here

atomic panther
#

Fated Authority withdrawal symptoms include: equipping a weapon you're awful with to get the dark thirst, turning up heat to squeeze out that extra darkness, and buying Tinge of Erebus. If you or a loved one are struggling with any of these symptoms, please contact your local SGG admin immediately.

turbid needle
#

is the update out guys i'm at uni can't check

#

will it be on the 13th for us europeans again? FeelsBadMan

errant narwhal
#

it is not out, no

#

usually thereโ€™s an @ everyone in the announcements channel when it drops

hasty mauve
#

Indeed

#

Then everyone goes crazy and spams the chat, before leaving to play shadesmile

plush blaze
#

Happy update day everyone

icy edge
#

Tbh good times was way quieter than chaos

#

People lost their minds for chaos

#

For good times they sorta... went and played

hasty mauve
#

Good times didn't add much

#

๐Ÿค”

icy edge
#

It added a god and a weapon

#

Dont see how its less than a god and heat

hasty mauve
#

Id say chaos was mroe fun

#

Also heat

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But preferences I guess ๐Ÿค”

icy edge
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Hmm, that gives me a feedback idea

proud storm
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Also chaos was the first major update

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So everyone was hyped

cursive citrus
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soft locked my game on bow heat run shadegrief

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this is like my 5th time losing good runs with bow in asphodel

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i think i bugged a crystal into getting stuck off-screen

sly marsh
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when is update today?

cursive citrus
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probably like 5-8 hours

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from now

sly marsh
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oh ok tnks

ocean trench
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Whee, finally pulled off my first clear last night, just in time for the new update. I mean, it took a hilarious amount of boons and darkness because I'm real bad, but still.

icy edge
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Hades is skill based quite a bit

cursive citrus
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ye once i "learned" to get past a certain section or enemy a few times i can do it pretty consistently afterwards

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first clear took a long time

icy edge
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When my save died prior to the good times update, I beat meg on my 1st run, and last boss on my 3rd

Took me like 40 to beat last boss originally

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Bomb bros were a nightmare

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Now we hang out

ocean trench
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Yeah, now as long as I paid attention to what I picked up along the way and didn't make any dumb mistakes I can mostly reliably beat Meg. Past that, noooot so much.

wet tartan
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The fact that the hydra fight keeps track of which weapon you used is a personal attack, because itโ€™s about to become very obvious that I only know how to use the shield

icy edge
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So much ^^

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But I'm also a crack shot with coronacht, so its a bit less

cursive citrus
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ye i noticed after the update i was mostly winning with shield

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now i have a balance

icy edge
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People love spear to death, but I just cant stand it

cursive citrus
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still trying to get 30 heat bow tho ๐Ÿ’ข

wet tartan
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I like it because I have an extra milisecond to think

icy edge
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Only jab spear is viable for me, and that's too much of a gamble

wet tartan
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Bull Rush Aegis all the way

ocean trench
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I didn't expect to love the spear as much as I do, but if I manage to rack up all the +special boons, it's just the best.

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I honestly expected to rely on the shield so much more.

cursive citrus
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ye special spear builds super reliable imo

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crit backstab returns

wet tartan
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I havenโ€™t touched the spear yet I should probably try it out

wide maple
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big pointy stick

wet tartan
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Oooo

wide maple
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for fishing

ocean trench
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Crit backstab returns are so choice.

icy edge
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Spear is easy insofar they delete threats quickly

I get satisfaction when I juke and deflect and outmaneuver the wretched dead

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And sword or shield do that for me

cursive citrus
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sword im not so good with

sly marsh
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spear best weapon evah

cursive citrus
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i run whichever weapon has the dark thirst

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so i run them all

wet tartan
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I benched the sword early but I think that might be because ooo shiny

icy edge
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Learning to dash and maintain sword combo is ridiculous... and also vital to being good with sword

cursive citrus
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ye i only recently started picking up mid-combo dashes

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was hard for me with mouse

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can do it now with tablet

wet tartan
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I know how to dash, itโ€™s when you spam spacebar when there are two crystals on either side and a pot, right

cursive citrus
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xactly

wet tartan
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Gods I hate that pot

cursive citrus
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pots are very good at what they do

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which is being a pest shadesmile

wet tartan
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Someone get some RAID then

cursive citrus
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trying to ignore pots and fight something else is such a mental drain

wet tartan
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Right???

green birch
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^same, though Iโ€™ve only ever won with sword, bow and shield....

wet tartan
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I end up going for the pots first

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No matter where they are

cursive citrus
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i usually kill gorgon > brimstone/voidstone > whatevers closest to me > pots

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unless theres so many pots i cant think

wet tartan
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One pot screws up my thinking because I mainly use bull rush and I canโ€™t charge with a mine right next to my face

cursive citrus
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ye that or a slow charge bow

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id probably re-evaluate

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not that i take slow charge bow anymore shadedisgruntled

wet tartan
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Daedalus only appears once per run, right?

cursive citrus
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ye

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i wonder how broken you could get with multiple

wet tartan
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It turns out that Zagreus turns into Hephaestus all along, not Dionysus

icy edge
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I'm actually shocked that the pots dont occur in asphodel

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They'd be a nightmare and id love it

wet tartan
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Oh gosh thank Hades for keeping the pots out of Asphodel

icy edge
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Lava + Random Lava Splurts + Pot Bois

cursive citrus
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pls no

wet tartan
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Burmaz is Daedalus, the architect of hell confirmed

cursive citrus
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when they toss mines into pits in tartarus

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or an invalid place like clipping a statue

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they explode instantly

wet tartan
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Oh gross

cursive citrus
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in asphodel you're dancing near lava so often that would become a major issue

wet tartan
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I do NOT need lava bombs all the time

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Esp because I donโ€™t actually know how to dash and I run into the lava constantly

turbid needle
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just bought this game

cursive citrus
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good choice

hasty mauve
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Very good

turbid needle
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Really excited with the current update log and gameplay

cursive citrus
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the last update really made it infinitely playable

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im big excited for more

turbid needle
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hope the next update brings the new biome and boss

cursive citrus
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i doubt theres a whole biome yet, but maybe

wet tartan
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I recall someone speculating early summer at the earliest?

lost rose
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No new biome this update

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Early summer at the earliest, would be my guess.

wet tartan
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This โ€œjustโ€ adds three voiced characters iirc, along with whatever game mechanics they introduce

turbid needle
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\new characters are still cool

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SGG makes great characters

cursive citrus
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a reason to collect more ambrosia lgwEnergy

turbid needle
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TRINKETSdusa

wet tartan
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Iโ€™m torn between giving best mom all the ambrosia and waiting until her portrait is released

hasty mauve
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I need to have more of my dating sim

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Gib more ambrosia options pls

wet tartan
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Iโ€™ve been giving best mom some of the ambrosia

cursive citrus
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i've been selling it

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i have all the home characters fulfilled

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but not all the gods i dont think

turbid needle
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hey all

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just bought this amazing game

cursive citrus
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henlo

wet tartan
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Best choice

turbid needle
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greetings a thot

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best game

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i've been playing at a friend

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i was better at the game then he was

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but i was kinda getting tired of waiting for the next update, so i just went and bought it myself

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been here since it was anounced in EA

hasty mauve
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Like 6 hours and It's probably out for most people

turbid needle
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beat the hydra on my first run XD

hasty mauve
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Which means 8 or something for me

turbid needle
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right new update today right?

hasty mauve
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Indeed

turbid needle
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can't wait

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hope theres a new doc vid

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the insights at supergiant are so fun

errant narwhal
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the second one took a while, im guessing the next episode will be in like 2 months

turbid needle
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supergiant is by far one of my favourite devs

cursive citrus
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ye id imagine they dont even start editing/post production until after the update drop footage is recorded

turbid needle
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played allmost all their games except bastion

errant narwhal
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you should play bastion eyesshaking

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its very good

cursive citrus
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bastion has a similar upgrade style to this

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same tho i love all their games

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i've yet to finish pyre tho

turbid needle
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i know

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almost in a way plays more like transistor

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without the pre-planning strategy part

safe mesa
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completed my first 60 heat run to prep for the update last night

turbid needle
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bought the game because of this update today ^^

rigid phoenix
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Anyone have an idea of when update's gonna happen?

turbid needle
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iirc 6 hours from now

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ETA

wet tartan
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AKA when Iโ€™m locked in lab for three hours

somber epoch
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update gonna happen when zag stops flirting with everyone, so never mmLol

turbid needle
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i want to romance dusa

plain wren
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as long as Dusa lives

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well

turbid needle
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!

plain wren
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unlives?

turbid needle
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beheads?

plain wren
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life beyond death

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

turbid needle
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or in zag's case

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Death beyond Death

plain wren
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lol

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Death beyond Death beyond Death beyond Death and so on.

light nova
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Im checking the game every 10 mins, stop me please

autumn vale
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its ok me2

dusky quartz
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You don't need to check. The patch note will be here before and discord will send a notification shadesmile

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And it's probably not here before a pair of hour.

light nova
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It's fun to see that some guys from SGG are in Hades too.

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Are they waiting for update? ๐Ÿ˜„

turbid needle
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probably playtesting?

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they also play test their own game if i recall one of the docs

radiant night
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They do

plain wren
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The better question is when isnโ€™t a member of SGG playing Hades

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The game must be running at the office at all times that someone is there

rich lantern
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If it isn't I have it auto-playing on a laptop at home ๐Ÿ˜‹

turbid needle
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auto-playing?

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scripts?

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hacks?

rich lantern
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Developer Tools

turbid needle
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ah

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hey morgan can i ask you something about poseidons boons?

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maybe im just using him wrong

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but he feels very.. boring compared to the others

fossil moat
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try sheild w/ wall stuns

turbid needle
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aspho dont have many walls tho

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i keep running out of usefullness when im there for my boy poseidon

fossil moat
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i know what you mean

hollow totem
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They recently changed it so enemies can knock into other enemies right?

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I like activly avoid poseidon boons

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Would not know

atomic panther
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In Asphodel if you knock enemies into the lava they take massive damage

turbid needle
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if

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most of them are flying

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or scripted sequences

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you cant knock em out of

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like the boat

fossil moat
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frustrates me when i cant push numbskulls, witches or gorgons into fire

turbid needle
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yeah

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that

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and the other options are

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poseidon gives bounty

atomic panther
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Ocean's Bounty is fantastic

turbid needle
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wich.. is ok.. but doesnt help you get stronger.. just good for farming darkness

atomic panther
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It makes centaur hearts give more

turbid needle
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^

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25 hp is allready fine

light nova
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eeeeeeee

turbid needle
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it doesnt need more

atomic panther
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You don't "need" more damage, either, but it's certainly helpful

tough tulip
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MURDER

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DEATH

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KILL

fossil moat
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omg!!!

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duo powers

turbid needle
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MDK!

subtle shale
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" Stygian Blade: increased damage on first and second strikes; increased dash attack damage to match thrust; reduced Special recovery time"๐Ÿ‘€

formal hill
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that would have been nice with my first attempt at a blade run since I unlocked the other weapons lmao

subtle shale
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Sword dash attack now not garbage

atomic panther
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"Increased Damage" World Splitter Buff ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€ ๐Ÿ‘€

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What's the damage increased to? I'm still updating

subtle shale
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I haven't been able to try yet

placid pike
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So anybody got any suggestions on which gods have duo powers with?

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Lorewise: Zeus and Poseidon, Aphrodite and Ares.

hollow totem
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Athena ares could work