#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 199

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 3:39 AM

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yea

arctic current Jan 16, 2019, 3:39 AM

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no, the ammount of rooms you clear that have enemies increase it

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:39 AM

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theres 27 rooms per run

pearl willow Jan 16, 2019, 3:40 AM

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Any idea how artemis dash works with pressure points (base crit chance for all damage) now? Do the chances add?

arctic current Jan 16, 2019, 3:40 AM

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would be nice if they made it 30, 15 for tarterus, and 15 for the other area

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 3:40 AM

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dash is only for when the green aura is around zags head

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and pressure points is whenever

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they both are anything i think

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for crit damage

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bit i think the dash chance is only for the dash

pearl willow Jan 16, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Rather I mean if the dash buff is active for X% crit chance and you have Pressure Points granting Y% crit chance is your total crit chance X+Y?

abstract glen Jan 16, 2019, 3:42 AM

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so if Chaos was added, then that means we're getting more gods later on?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Quite likely, yes, more gods later

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 3:42 AM

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idk darkwaffle

abstract glen Jan 16, 2019, 3:43 AM

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I wonder if titans too

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Woop win streak of 9! 😄

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 3:43 AM

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if they added more boons, they would have it have to be like chaos

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you get them in a blood gate or else its way to luck based early game or without a trinket

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:44 AM

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Just out of curiosity have anyone maxed the new scroll yet? Im curious how many skulls you need

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Whats a maxed scroll

abstract glen Jan 16, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Is Chaos actually a thing in Greek mythology?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Yes

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 3:45 AM

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maxed scroll, maxed contraced of pain

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:45 AM

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The new scroll in your room that adds difficulty

lime summit Jan 16, 2019, 3:45 AM

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yes @abstract glen https://greekgodsandgoddesses.net/gods/chaos/

Greek Gods & Goddesses

GGG_admin

Chaos • Facts the About Primordial Gaping Void & Beginning of Ev...

Chaos was the origin of everything and the very first thing that ever existed. It was a primordial void, which everything was created from including the universe and the Greek Gods. In ancient Greek, Chaos is translated as ‘the gaping void.’ The first deities that emerged...

abstract glen Jan 16, 2019, 3:46 AM

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hey, why do all these names look so familiar...

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:46 AM

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I mean i just really really want to go to olympys and drink my butt of with my boi Dionysos

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-16 life total to get 73% cast dmg... Sure i'll take another win... Chaos boons are too strong lol

umbral needle Jan 16, 2019, 3:50 AM

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overall, if you have a maxed out mirror, the game got a little easier imo

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:50 AM

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Thats why im grinding to max the scroll

abstract glen Jan 16, 2019, 3:50 AM

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oh wow, Kratos was actually a thing in Greek Mythology

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 3:54 AM

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more gods would muddy up the legendary buffs

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not in favor of that

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:54 AM

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As they add more floors that wouldnt be a problem

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but i know what you mean

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 3:55 AM

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It would mean taking the god keepsake or no chance of legendary buff

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:56 AM

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God keepsake only grants you 1 ensured encounter so thats not really true

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Not feeling the progression of the current keep sake. I've play a lot and done 130 runs but I need at least 25 just for 1 upgrade on a keep sake

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It isn't about the encounter it is about rarity

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 3:56 AM

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..... it's a permanent buff though

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you should have to work about it

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 3:56 AM

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how high does the keepsakes go lvl wise

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 3:56 AM

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for it*

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:57 AM

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3

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:57 AM

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It's not runs, its encounters... if it was runs, I'd say 25 was too much

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 3:57 AM

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if you mean over a month's worth of work I'll pass this is a solo game

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 3:57 AM

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and what Teledan said

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it's encounters. literal rooms.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:58 AM

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You didnt work over a month for a thing you didnt know was a thing

pearl willow Jan 16, 2019, 3:58 AM

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havent played since a bit before christmas and finally got a solid aphrodite cast run. range is a little shorter than i like but it hits pretty damn hard when you get rolling.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Got an aphro run right now, 50 dmg on the boon and 72% cast dmg from chaos, time to enter asphodel 😄

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 3:59 AM

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@drifting hemlock Exactly before I didn't have to do any kind of work now I have to so that I have to factor that in

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Then im not sure what you're complaining about

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or maybe i misunderstood something

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 3:59 AM

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The buffs are stronger now... you only got 10% before, now its up to 20% on the god boons

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So just because it takes more work doesn't mean much

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:00 AM

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I'm... really not sure why your'e complaining

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:00 AM

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I can confirm that is not the case before I used to every option epic before this change

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:00 AM

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you're... complaining that the same work you did before for... nothing, now gets you something.

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:00 AM

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You always got epics?

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:00 AM

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most of the time yes

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:00 AM

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and now you don't?

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:00 AM

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for the keepsake I chose

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Maybe epic chance was lowered across the board then

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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and maybe it should be.

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-shrug-

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Because epic doesn't mean epic if you get it all the time

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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they're still balancing the game.

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that's the risk with early release.

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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gods pride exists

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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sometimes they're gonna take away things that are too powerful

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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make no mistake I understand this is early access

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:01 AM

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25% buff chance for epic

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:02 AM

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They kinda had to lower it, it was insane with the maxed mirror, and now with the upgrades and Chaos giving you added chance

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It was way too high from the get go

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:02 AM

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I'm just saying from the last major patch I did 130 runs (not exact number) it is going to take me a long time just to get the next upgrade on all the keep sakes no counting the non god keepsakes

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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It takes about 4 runs to max an item...

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Thats not exactly wild

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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the dash % damage removal is a big nerf on the mirror

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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it's encounters, not runs

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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at 20 minutes a run you're maxing one every 1.5 hours

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and a skilled player would do it faster than 20

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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yeah that nerf hit me a bit hard.

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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4 runs? it takes 25 to get to next level how you getting that out of 4 runs?

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

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25 /encounters/

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we've said it a few times now

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/not/ runs.

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:04 AM

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20 encounters to 50 i think

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:04 AM

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yes I understnad that but you are not getting the same buff 5 times in every run

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:04 AM

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i have artemis to lvl 2 and it takes a lot of encounters

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:04 AM

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it takes like 16/17 to get to meg

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:04 AM

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Well I've completed 9 runs since the patch and this is the 10th and I've soon maxed my 3rd keepsake 😃

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:05 AM

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4 runs... if you do 6 rooms per run, thats 25 near enough

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6 rooms isn't even to first boss

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:05 AM

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4 runs per upgrade would be an avg of 6 boons of the same type per run

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I'm getting half that

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:05 AM

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you need encounters, not god specific boons to upgrade them lol

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and you dont need a god tier build to win a run

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:06 AM

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omg people 4x6=24 do some math

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:06 AM

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+1

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:06 AM

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27 rooms per run = 27

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heres the math bois

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100 encounters to max

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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that is a lot

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Do you really want to max out everything in like 2 runs?

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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no don't expect to

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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That is a lot? Thats 4 runs to max an item

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thats nothing

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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IF you get that avg you are going to through ups and downs

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I do have that average

rain axle Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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I've done 7 runs with zeus and got less than 10

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:07 AM

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just some clarification: encounter=room with baddies, right?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Yes

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:08 AM

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yes

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:08 AM

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No

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:08 AM

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-squint-

twilit zephyr Jan 16, 2019, 4:08 AM

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I think chests count as encounters as well

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Otherwise it doesnt make sense that i have almost 3 maxed boons after 10 runs

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An encounter is a room, there are 27 rooms per run, by run i mean beating the hydra

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Im getting grey hair here boys and girls!

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:09 AM

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lets just go by that

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1 run = 27 encounters

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:09 AM

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i've gone 100 or so runs now and still haven't finished an encounter, so y'all make me look bad

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not runs, attemps

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:10 AM

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This is literally the first day of the patch and we're having a conversation that he's unhappy he hasn't maxed out yet.

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:10 AM

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and not encounter, run.

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:10 AM

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so take the max encounters needed and divide by 27

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:10 AM

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oi vey

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:10 AM

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solved

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:10 AM

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Exactly!

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No provoking dude 😛

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Day 1

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:11 AM

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No need to start bashing on people, friends

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:11 AM

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lol sorry

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:11 AM

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Thats not nice

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:12 AM

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I'm just confused why we're even having a conversation that you can't max out straight away

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The maths, sure

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:12 AM

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i'm still trying to straighten out what counts as an encounter.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:12 AM

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Every room

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:13 AM

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im one run with lvl 1 artemis(takes 25 to lvl 2) i kept it through asphodel and it lvled up

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so 27 rooms=27 encounters

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it just every room you have the trinket equipped

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:14 AM

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If you wont listen to me listen to the Panda!

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❤

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:15 AM

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if someone can pull up encounters necessary to max lvl, divide that number by 27 then you have runs needed

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:15 AM

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i only ask for clarification because you were the only one who said no

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:16 AM

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Its 25 and then 75

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so 100 encounters = maxed keepsake

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meaning 4 full runs

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yes

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:16 AM

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ye, about 4

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:17 AM

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4 runs where you die in the room before the shop before the hydra!

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:17 AM

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just stand in the lava if you can

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Yes its a huge time saver!

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:17 AM

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Ouch

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But lava hurts

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:17 AM

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so

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suck it up

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:18 AM

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Ugh this means I’m going to have to do runs with weird keepsakes that aren’t Zeus or Charon

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What is this madness

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:18 AM

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why?

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:18 AM

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i graduated kindergarden with a masters degree in math

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:19 AM

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if you use those, why would you need to?

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Completionism!

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:19 AM

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ok but

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:19 AM

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I’m working on my masters degree in math!

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:19 AM

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oh

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but i can do 100/27

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can you

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:19 AM

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Nope

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Numbers spook me

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:20 AM

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10th run in a row done boys!

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Nice!

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:20 AM

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noice

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ive done about 60 runs and only 20 failed

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:20 AM

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100 divided by 27 = More than twelve!

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:20 AM

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Higher than I can count~~

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:21 AM

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lets count

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1

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2

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3

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3.6

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thats as far as you can go

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its 3.7

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Y'all are really harping on this math thing 🙃

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:21 AM

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M a t h

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:22 AM

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i will kick the dead horse as much as possible

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:22 AM

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Can’t say I’m a big fan of this new heat resource

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So many dead rooms

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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its ok

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Seems too common

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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it only used for trade and pact of pain

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Would rather get it just at the end of a hydra kill

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As like a “you’re ready for more of a challenge now”

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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I just had my first win 😃

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Okay you need 150 skulls to max the scroll 😄

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:23 AM

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nice

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Grats Teleadan!

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Congrats!

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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assuming you only go for the 5 at the end of hydra

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I... just lost to meg again T_T

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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itle take 30 runs

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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and my keepsake was useless

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I mean, if they make it only available at the end they could increase the value to like 10

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I've gotten 76 (Also bought some) in 10 runs

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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what'll take 30 runs?

simple hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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I picked chaos egg, and I didn't find one single chaos gate 😛

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:24 AM

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if you only take the 5 heat at the hydra

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to 150

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nedded to max

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

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....

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that dead horse though

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😛

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

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ye

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

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🐴

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

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rip

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:25 AM

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Hmm

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Something is wrong!!!

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:26 AM

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what

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:26 AM

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I have 10 consecutive wins... Thats 27x10 = 270 encounters... To max out 3 keepsakes you'd need 300 encounters but... I got 3 maxed out keepsakes...

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Some encounters must not count as rooms?

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Wait

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:27 AM

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were those wins all today

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:27 AM

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Farthest chamber reached 28 ...

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:27 AM

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no fails?

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WHAT

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:27 AM

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No fails so far since patch

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:27 AM

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The 28 chamber thing is a thing that's been around since the game launched

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:27 AM

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First time i checked after beating hydra it was 27 but alright then

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but still, some encounters must not count as a room then, maybe it's chaos?

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Then again i havent met chaos 30 times ..

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:28 AM

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I think shops don't count

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I went in and it didn't reduce my Chaos boon encounter timer

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:28 AM

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but if they didnt count that would mean its even more blasphemus

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Exactly

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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SUPERGIANT WE NEED HALP

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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I have 3 maxed keepsakes after 10 runs

You need 300 encounters to max 3

10 runs with 28 rooms each would be 280

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Pretty sure shops aren’t encounters

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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Wait ...

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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I’d assume encounters are anything that ticks down the Charon well things

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Which shops don’t as far as I believe

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:30 AM

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My first run i started on the hydra from a previous save... That means my first out of those 10 runs was only 1 room...

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:30 AM

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Not all runs are 28 though

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They usually are 27

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:30 AM

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we need someone like greg to confirm

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thats just the first person my eyes went to in supergiant

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Well, they do have that Q&A on Friday

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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we need to interogate them

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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@undone bone I've done 9 full runs + 1 run where i only beat hydra, that would be at least 27x9+1 encounters (244) but i have 3 maxed out keepsakes which all require 100 encounters each... What counts as an encounter exactly?

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oh...

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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i cant spell

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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I should wait for friday

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sorry greg for pinging 😮

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:32 AM

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Oh, please don't mention the SGG staff failbag

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In the Discord mechanic sense, not the talking about them sense 😛

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:33 AM

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My bad 😦

dusky drum Jan 16, 2019, 4:35 AM

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oceans bounty and night shawl seems powerful

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since you get a heal depending on how much darkness you get

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:35 AM

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It's a nice combo, but I still dislike the idea of a strat that requires you to get hurt

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Synergistic but in best case scenarios would never be a thing

undone bone Jan 16, 2019, 4:36 AM

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The game has a specific definition of 'Encounter', which is 'Underworld chambers where you must slay your foes to proceed.'

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So, it's excluding stuff like meeting Sisyphus, for example.

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Ok, that's just cruel... I picked up a Chaos boon that increased the number of foes by 77% for 2 Encounters, and then immediately get dropped into a tiny survival room 🙃

undone bone Jan 16, 2019, 4:37 AM

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If you don't think it's working correctly in light of that information or you expect it to work some other way, you can press F10 in-game if you think it's a bug, or post feedback in #hades-feedback if it's more of an impression.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:37 AM

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I can't type in that channel 😦

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:37 AM

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Read the pinned messages in #hades-feedback for instructions on posting 👍

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:39 AM

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Ahhh, thanks!

jolly atlas Jan 16, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Hey has anyone else found cast like really strong rn?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:40 AM

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Seems to be the consensus, yeah

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Cast is insane

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Is there any way to track progress on keepsakes while playing?

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:45 AM

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with poseidon attack, you can push medusa to a area where she cant hit you, the problem is you cant attack her neither. Only spin attack is able to reach her 😄

unborn spire Jan 16, 2019, 4:46 AM

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Yeah, I just did 2 runs in a row, each in less than 30 mins (22-ish) using Poseidon's and then Artemis' casts together with Chaos boons for more casts and it was just craaazy easy.

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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my best record is 18min

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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Mine is 11 😄

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with 14 boons 😄

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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that's why Chaos is just broken tbh

unborn spire Jan 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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11 mins is NUTS

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lol

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:48 AM

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you should buy a lottery bro 😄 14 boons...

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:48 AM

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Minimum time to pick boons and just push through, minimum decision making on which door to choose

rigid trout Jan 16, 2019, 4:48 AM

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hey curious, anyone else feel that with the Chaos Boon that increases enemies by like 38% or whatever, that the enemies spawn .... slowly?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:48 AM

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yeah had 3-4 double god rooms

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in hindsight that might have slowed me down

unborn spire Jan 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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yeah, I'm recording all my runs and read a lot of things out loud which slows me down

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still trying to start playing faster

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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having to go through 2 decisions and text boxes

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:49 AM

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I had 2 double roons 1 time in like nearly 100 runs

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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Just do like me, imagine that every text box is gonna say "You're amazing!" and then just click through them instantly, you dont need to read them if you know what they say 😉

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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just thinking, how can u get 14 boons in total?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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What do you mean?

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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1 for cast, 1 for attack, 1 for special, 1 for dash

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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I have the screenshot of it

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2 sec

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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ty

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:50 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/werTlYR

Imgur

Gotta go fast

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you can't see the top ones tho

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UI isnt optimized for all the boons

white oxide Jan 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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there are some boons that are repeatable

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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the only repeatable one is sunken treasure and that one isnt listed on the side

white oxide Jan 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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ah

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:51 AM

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oh and the money from athena

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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money from any gods after you get all the possible boons (not legendary)

white oxide Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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Im pretty sure each god has at least 2 boons not based on the 4 buttons

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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but yeah was a good run to speed run 😄

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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@drifting hemlock I think I figured out your Keepsake encounter dilemma

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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They do but they arent repeatable

white oxide Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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yep

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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poseidon has a lot of boons

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:52 AM

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@forest marsh Tell me!

tender zephyr Jan 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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"Oh you're find out, he's about to summon him."
~~sorry couldn't resist~~

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Or... wait... no. I'm so sorry failbag You know when you have flashes of inspiration that later prove to be completely erroneous when you type it out? Yeah... I'll just be over here... in the shame corner

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Don't worry... You figured it out in my heart ❤

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But yeah i know that all too well haha

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Or even worse if you have an idea that might actually be something, and then tells people you have an idea, and then completely forgets the idea

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 4:56 AM

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Mhmmm... That's the worst

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 4:57 AM

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I'm gonna try with a fresh keepsake and see how many encounters i have when im done

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Wish i could see while i played, I have a nagging feeling that maybe its Troves or Blood gates, maybe even the act of purchasing an item counts, cus something sure is janky

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:00 AM

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I don't know, I did a Trove and it didn't affect the Chaos encounter timer, even though I think it probably should

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Wait you can see it while playing? Where?!

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:00 AM

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No no, I just mean the Encounter timer on the Chaos boon didn't go down

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:01 AM

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Oooohhh

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my bad 😄

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:09 AM

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Does anyone else feel like the Skullcrushers should damage enemies too when they plop down? Also, their AoE feels a bit too wide. Am I an outlier in this feeling?

jolly atlas Jan 16, 2019, 5:10 AM

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They feel a little bit wide, I think it takes 2 dashes to get out of the range

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:10 AM

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It feels awkward to double dash away to avoid damage and then only have one dash to get back in

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Why? You just went a lot of distance

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Now you have to travel back

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:12 AM

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yeah but he goes up again

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:12 AM

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If you just wait a short sec all the dashes will be back and you can go again

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:12 AM

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not saying i cant deal with them

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they're just awkward to fight

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:12 AM

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Fair

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:14 AM

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First room 80% dmg on cast, next room 120 dmg true shot, 3rd room +2 cast... Yeah I won this run already

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Feel like big bomb bois should be reverted to throw multiple bombs on death

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the single bomb provides no danger

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:19 AM

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Do all the Artemis crit chances stack? Because the 20% crit after dash makes a bit more sense if you have the attack boon too, and now it goes up to say 45% when you add up the chance from both boons

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So, a tip. In Asphodel, Poseidon's knockback effect is insanely useful.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:23 AM

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yeah its opop

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The small gaps of lava you can just walk over... Feels wierd

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You can walk over the small gaps of lava, it feels wierd.... Theres the sentence i wanted

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:29 AM

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ok wow flurry blade is incredible

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:29 AM

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pennyWhat I've never seen a Blood Gate in the first room of a run... https://imgur.com/a/hAuiN8n

Imgur

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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@forest marsh i literally had that on my last run too

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Im 2 shotting the hydra heads again 😦

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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Some runs are just good

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:30 AM

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I got aphrodites keepsake and have no aprho boons but 3 zeus and 2 artemis and one from Chaos

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:31 AM

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flurry is great because it makes all your sword attacks insanely fast and a 180 degree arc so you can just stunlock everyhing all at once after you bust armor

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you can even stunlock the final boss ads

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Add Zeus attack boon and it's even more fun

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:31 AM

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@drifting hemlock you might want to edit that spoiler out btw

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and yeah i just had curse of agony

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Spoilers are fine in this channel

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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which isnt the best synergy sadly

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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What spoiler?

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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oh they are?

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heck

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Just no spoilers in #h1-discussion

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It's hard to talk about gameplay stuff without spoilers

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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@drifting hemlock boss names are considered spoilers but i guess thats not important here so mb

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true true lol

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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so uh where do i report a bug?

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https://clips.twitch.tv/ZanyMotionlessMetalFailFish

Twitch

yungbasedsalami Playing Hades - Twitch Clips

early access btw - Clipped by yungbasedsalami

▶ Play video

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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F10 in game

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:32 AM

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press f10 in game

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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oh ok

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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You can include a link to the clip there as well

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Just paste it into the report window

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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anyone else experienced this yet?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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Oh, but that's a known bug

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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thanks btw ill add it

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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No need to report that

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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oh ok then

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nevermind lol

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:33 AM

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It's an old bug too, not from this patch 😆

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:34 AM

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yikes lol my b

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Kinda like having Aphros keepsake but no aphrodite boons at all 😄

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Looks wierd like "you're my fav god, but imma skip you in favor of the others"

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@forest marsh so after this run, full clear, I only got 26 encounters on a fresh keepsake....

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My head hurts

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Were you tracking non-combat rooms vs combat rooms?

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Maybe keep a tally as you go

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Hmm thats smart

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I'll do that now

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:37 AM

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Greg did say the only ones that should count are ones where you have to clear enemies

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:38 AM

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But the thing is from the discussion before we weren't OVER the 300 amount, we were way under

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:38 AM

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But that should result in less towards the total, not more like you experienced with your first 3 keepsake maxes

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:38 AM

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yeah

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oh well I'll count again

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Actually counting everything, troves, purchases, everything

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combat and non combat rooms

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:39 AM

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has anyone found a decent aphro build?

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her zeus and ares are my favs but she doesnt feel good at all

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:40 AM

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Aphro is a beast, go shotgun build

arctic current Jan 16, 2019, 5:40 AM

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im almost maxed out on the mirror! X3

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THANK YOU CHAOS

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:40 AM

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btw i got the bug again later https://clips.twitch.tv/CourageousNeighborlyHerdSquadGoals

Twitch

yungbasedsalami Playing Hades - Twitch Clips

sliding in aphrodite's dm's - Clipped by yungbasedsalami

▶ Play video

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taking boons fixes it

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:41 AM

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Get shotgun aphro with "Weak takes more dmg" and if you're lucky you get artemis for extra shots or ares for more cast dmg

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:41 AM

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when you say shotgun you mean bow special right?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:41 AM

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No the cast 😄

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:42 AM

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aphrodite Cast is referred to as shotgun

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It's the Scatter Shot boon

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Breaks the cast into 6 shards

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Very close range, though

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Wight help me out here is there anything im missing from my list before i start the run to count "encounters"?

Keepsake remaining encounters: 74

Battle Rooms:

Non battle Rooms:

Purchases:

Troves:

Blood gates:

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:43 AM

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oh ok gotchu

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Trials?

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:43 AM

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im not a fan of cast builds

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but ill give it a try

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:43 AM

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Cast is super OP right now, and it was already strong before the patch

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:44 AM

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added time trial and no-hit trial

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should be it yes?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Oh, I meant Trial of the Gods 😆

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:44 AM

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oh

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:44 AM

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whats your fav cast build?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:44 AM

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Added aswell!

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:45 AM

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But yeah, I think that's everything

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:45 AM

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now i really wanna try one

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:45 AM

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True shot on artemis or aphros shotgun

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:45 AM

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I like Artemis cast with all her associated cast boons

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So Burst Shot and Quick Reload

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:45 AM

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what charm do you use? artemis's or aphros?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:46 AM

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Artemis

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 5:46 AM

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new hunter dash is so weak 😦

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:46 AM

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The only thing you want from aprho is the shotgun, the rest you want from artemis

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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ok gotchu

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and weapon?

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or that is preferance?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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I know, it makes me sad RE: Hunter Dash

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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the one you're best with but my go to is shield

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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For a cast build the weapon doesn't matter, just go with what you like

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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same my best is shield too

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i love the ares shield toss build

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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hot dang

📎 Hades_00033.png

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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feel like captain frisbee

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 5:47 AM

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this cast build is so cheesey

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i was doing potentially 5000 damage per volley

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:48 AM

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big yikes

harsh goblet Jan 16, 2019, 5:48 AM

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I am waiting till the day they add a feature (like an arrow) to show where is the cast bullets. sometimes it's hard to find them xD

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:48 AM

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Had something similar on my first run, critting for almost 2200 😄

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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out of curiosity, what's the 1666:39 next to the blade supposed to mean?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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without braid of atlas tho

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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it's different from my clear time

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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its your run time

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because you had the save from before the patch

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i have the same

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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my run time was 16:45

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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its to prevent people from getting a 2 minute run by staying at the hydra prepatch

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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ohhh i see

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:50 AM

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they said it would be fixed within some days so you get the proper timing in

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min is 1673 minutes or something 😄

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 5:51 AM

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heheheh

cold oriole Jan 16, 2019, 5:57 AM

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woah, just got two zeus/posideon rooms in a row

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:57 AM

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has anyone bought the aphrodite scroll from the shop for 500g?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Yup

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:58 AM

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i havent seen it before and was wondering if anyone has a pic of how it looks in game

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worth getting?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:58 AM

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It's still pretty rough, not sure if they're improving it later or not

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I mean, as a completionist? Yes

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:58 AM

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can you send a pic pls?

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or dm me one if it doesnt belong here

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i wanna know before i blow 500 g

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 5:59 AM

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It basically looks like a sketch of her portrait. I don't have a screenshot currently, but I can post when I'm back in my room

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:59 AM

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thanks fam

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 5:59 AM

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Imagine her in 240p quality

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 5:59 AM

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you the best

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ok gotcha lol

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thanks guys

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also if you dont mind me asking

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whats the new skull currency for?

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 6:01 AM

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masochism

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it's for making the game harder if you're bored 😛

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:01 AM

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oh gotcha

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 6:01 AM

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or want a challenge

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:01 AM

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i thought it was for literal masochism

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 6:01 AM

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kgjfhgkdf no, just if you want a challenge 😂

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:01 AM

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like as it meant nothing and was for you if you hated yourself

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cuz i sure do (:

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 6:02 AM

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one can argue the extent to which using the difficulty modifiers in any of the supergiant games is an exercise in self-inflicted suffering

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:04 AM

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yea as if the games arent hard enough

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Mmmmm, killing the Skullcrusher with Athena Dash deflect feels nice 👌

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:08 AM

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I know Hunter's Dash was overpowered, but they didn't just take the nerf bat to it. They grabbed a nerf hammer and smashed it into the ground.

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I doubt they'll remove the crit concept behind Artemis, but all of her boons requiring chance just make her less appealing than other Gods.
Her Cast and Hunter's Dash were always her selling points with the others just being meh; however, now everything but her Cast is in meh territory.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:10 AM

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Uhm

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I've knocked the big dusa head into a wall... It cant get out

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and i cant hit it

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:11 AM

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F10 bug report

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:11 AM

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RIP Lizzy guyjudgeF

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Right in the middle of science 😦

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:11 AM

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What weapon did you use?

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Shield?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Shield with poseidon attack.... Mass shove

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:12 AM

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Can you hit her with the Special?

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By the way, did anyone else freak out when they noticed SG removed the walls in the Hydra fight?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:13 AM

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oh wait, i can hit her from a really obscure angle but only with the attack... this is gonna be painfully slow... still a bug tho

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wait no its my aphro dash that damages her

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:14 AM

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I feel like I'm going to have to relearn the whole fight now though at least they changed the hitstun.
Keep at it, Liz

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:14 AM

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even slower!

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Love is a slow burn

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:14 AM

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17 dmg a tick omg

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Do it for the secret Dusa ending.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:16 AM

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Finally! 17dmg a hit with the stone dude constantly dropping down and the lava spots always landing right in front of where i need to dash sucked booty

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:17 AM

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The respawn on the Skullcrusher for the Megagorgon fight is really more annoying than challenging

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:17 AM

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does anyone else find the last boss easier?

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like i just beat it 3 times in a row with different weapons trying random jank stuff

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:18 AM

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we got buffed overall and the fight got arguably nerfed so yes

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:18 AM

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It's definitely easier, so is Meg

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:19 AM

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aw man i was hoping you guys would say i was crazy

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so i can feel good

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 6:19 AM

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the fight got definitely nerfed, you don't have to dodge behind the hydra's head and risk lava every time it volleys now

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Its totally crazy hard!

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Better? 😄

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:20 AM

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thanks dusa

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

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Feels harder for me

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:21 AM

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i did an impromtu zeus sword build with artemis crit chance and 4 extra bounces on each attack

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my fps dropped to 25 lol

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Found another bug, I had a chaos cast boon giving 69% more damage, and picked one more giving 19% more dmg once both were completed i had 69% cast damage

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Same happened earlier when i had 2 of the "increase rarity percentage" from chaos boons

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Have to dodge the darts instead of being able to bait them. Plus, there's no sweet spot from the main head's darts while taking out the extra heads.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:22 AM

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you can destroy the darts

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:23 AM

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With or without Athena's deflect?

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:23 AM

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with regular attacks

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they are like the orbs from witches now

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Huh, that's...hmmm.

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I don't know if I like that or not.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:24 AM

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you dont, it makes it too easy

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:24 AM

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yea you can hug him and mash left click and clear them now

placid pike Jan 16, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Thinks of sword flurry

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Yeaaaaah, that might be a bit too cheesy now.

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:24 AM

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yea sword flurry with zeus boons is super fun

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everything disappears

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and zaps can crit i think if you get passive crit from artemis

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:32 AM

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@forest marsh still alive?

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Keepsake remaining encounters: 74

Start room/room between floors: 3

Regular Battle Rooms: 10

Elite Battle Rooms: 1

Time trial: 1

No-hit trial: 1

Non battle Rooms: 4

Trial of the gods:

Purchases from Charon: 4

Purchases from Charons well: 1

Troves:

Blood gates: 3

Bosses: 3

Total: 31

Total rooms: 26

Encounter left: 46

Difference: 28

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:32 AM

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No, I am a ghost. But yes, I am here

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:32 AM

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Something that isn't a room counts as an encounter

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Is there a chaos legendary boon

vague hearth Jan 16, 2019, 6:33 AM

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The chaos boons feel really nice

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I got the attack one on a world splitter sword run and it felt

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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By my count there's only 16 fighting rooms in that, right?

vague hearth Jan 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Really satisfying

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Yes 16 fighting rooms

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Yeah, I don't know what to say... That's very odd

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:35 AM

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Even counting all rooms, with non battle rooms there still something besides those that adds to the counter

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:36 AM

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Maybe I'll take a peek in the script file for the Keepsakes...

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See if there are any clues there

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 6:37 AM

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Did my first run with the new update. Got quite surprised that you can get a Chaos boon without enough rooms to clear it. My second boon was just before the Hydra... I should not have chosen that one, went in full life with 3 death defiances, won with no death defiance and 5 HP. Bit confused that they removed the visible "impervious" thing on the Hydra but gave it to Meg. Like the lack of walls and that you can destroy the projectiles though.

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https://i.imgur.com/885BT0q.jpg

Imgur

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:38 AM

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I'm not that surprised that you can get a Chaos boon without enough time to clear it, that's quite common in roguelikes in my experience

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That is, timed events without time to finish them

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:38 AM

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Hope you can find some clues 😄

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I mean it doesn't hurt the player, it reduces the grind... I just want to understand it

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 6:38 AM

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it'd be great if it at least warned you that you're gonna encounter the boss with a debuff

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:39 AM

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This is why all my Hades runs take so long, I get distracted every 30 seconds by Discord 😆

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 6:39 AM

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maybe after you already picked up the boon but before you choose anything

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 6:39 AM

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Also, love that with Arrowhead plus a ball of yarn, the boon I got from Artemis gave me the choice between an epic cast, a common dash and a common Pressure Points. Really glad I got that epic Clean Kill right at the end though, made dealing with the Hydra way easier.

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I wanted to give Ambrosia to Chaos because I forgot the first time anyway, so I would have gone to the gate even if I'd known beforehand... but I would have picked the "lose 1HP every time you cast" instead stumptLol

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

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Once you've gotten the game mechanics under your skin you don't need a warning, you'll know when you're likely to be too close, and in roguelikes its all about risk rewards so i kinda like it

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 6:40 AM

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i mean i guess

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it'd still be nice to know so you can make informed choice xD

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like, you might feel you're near the boss but maybe not quite, you're off by one or two chambers

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Now that I know, sure, I'll be more careful (although an indication of how far you're in could be useful, since most rogue-likes have one), but I thought it was not possible to have something like that. So I thought "nice, I just have to survive goons for 3 rooms and then no matter what happens I'll get a full heal, even if I pick up another centaur heart and end up with 2HP left". How mistaken I was.

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 6:42 AM

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so you pick smaller risk boon just in case even tho there was option you wanted more

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 6:42 AM

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Thought it was a guaranteed full heal right before Hydra, ended up with so much more damage in my face on an enemy that's been changed.

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

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maybe chamber counter would solve this

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

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A big part of it is not knowing what the next rooms will be, thus being unable to plan ahead, but yeah i get what you're saying 😄

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Anyone knows if it's normal that the Hydra does not have a visible shield when it's impervious? Seems weird that they added it to Meg but removed it on the Hydra.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:43 AM

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Can't remember if i see it or not

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and just finished the 11th run

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 6:44 AM

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what would be cool is a map like sts where you see the branching paths and where they lead to plan ahead

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it would be a lot like slay the spire though

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 6:47 AM

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Nah, shouldn't get a map. Having a "room 26 out of 27" in the corner would be great though. I have never seen another rogue-like where you don't know how close to the end you are.

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 6:47 AM

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So in the RoomManager script it calls the AdvanceKeepsake function upon leaving the room... Haven't seen anything yet to indicate it's combat specific

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Hmm 26 rooms is 27 rooms left, if starting a run counts as 1 then we're at 28

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or if i miscounted by one lol

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but still doesn't make much sense in regards of our last math problem

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Can't have left that many more rooms

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Also, like that shop in the lounge. Should have remembered I now need keys again before spending them for Ambrosia though gilmanangst

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The Medusa fight is also a nice addition. Petrification on hit is a nice mechanic, suprising the first time it happens.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 6:59 AM

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Lost my first death defiance in 40 runs... Im uninstalling

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:00 AM

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You're clearly a much better player than I 🙃

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:00 AM

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Got the chaos thing where you take dmg from dashing, made me so scared of dashing that everything hit me ...

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:01 AM

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I'm so happy that I get to add more delicious Hades emotes with the new patch friendly

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:02 AM

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so uhh

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whens the next patch? 🤔

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:02 AM

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28 days 😛

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:02 AM

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nice lol

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:02 AM

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Well, next major one, anyway

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Expect small patches for fixes before then

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And/or minor balancing changes

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Precious artemis why you gotta make me pick between Burst Shot and Pressure Points notlikeblob

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But really, it's going to be Epic Pressure Points

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Pressuusurueuuree!

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:04 AM

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Anyone have massive FSP drops if there are many foes on the screen and while using Blade Rift or Thunder Buff (Dash makes lightning strike.)

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:04 AM

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I've advanced approximately 2 rooms in the past... however long since I said I would look into the scripts for Lizzy 🙃

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@turbid needle Yeah, that's pretty common

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

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Darn.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

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huh i've yet to have any fps drops

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

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I drop to like 5 fps..

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:05 AM

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Unfortunately optimization will be one of the later things to get worked on in the Early Access process

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Zeus is the worst on FPS in my experience

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Really shocks your system

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

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^

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lol

empty canopy Jan 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

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Question: would anyone else want more uses for heat then just the contract? Not sure what, it's just I imagine right now heat is useless to anyone who does not desire to make the game harder

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

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sword flurry and sword zaps = rip frams

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

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you can trade heat for other resources

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:06 AM

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my gtx 1080 on 1440p dropped to 35ish frams

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Yeah, just trade the heat.

empty canopy Jan 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

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true, but that's not really a use so much as a way to get other currency

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i was mainly wondering if it was worth coming up with a feedback idea for heat use or not

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:07 AM

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Honestly im sure they're gonna make the scroll do more than just make the game harder - anything, imo, just wouldnt make sende

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sense

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

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That's the nice thing with that new trader. When you run out of uses for keys, trade them. If you don't care about heat, trade it. Once you've gotten everything darkness can get you, trade it. If you've also maxxed out the hearts, though... you're pretty much doomed.

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Im maxing the scroll before trading any heat out, and at that point i dont think i need to trade at all

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

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kylestien, forgive me for asking, but do you have the game now? 😅

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:08 AM

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I'm really not bothered by the excess resources. They've been working to provide extra utility, but at the same time there are lots of other games where you end up with a surfeit of resources when you play a lot and/or reach end-game

empty canopy Jan 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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I sadly do not, which i acknowledge means all feedback from me should be taken with grains of salt

plucky oxide Jan 16, 2019, 7:09 AM

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Does the Heat option for more enemies just spawn more enemies over the duration of a fight? Or is the max number of enemies on screen at a time doubled? I'm hoping it's the latter, as it's my favorite concept introduced in the Pact mechanic so far.

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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From the Chaos boon that increased foes by 77%, it's definitely on screen and not extended time

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It can get nutty

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 7:10 AM

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feedback is supposed to be based on your personal experience, so please don’t feel pressured to come up with more! If someone plays the game and feels like it needs another heat sink or something else, they could feedback it. watching others play and reading stuff on-paper is a much different experience than playing!

plucky oxide Jan 16, 2019, 7:11 AM

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Okay good. It makes gameplay a lot more engaging for me. Loving it so far!

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 7:11 AM

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I got that one when I fought the 2 big bomb fellas in Tartarus. I ended up having to kill like 7 of them. o.O

empty canopy Jan 16, 2019, 7:11 AM

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I would hold back on giving feedback untill i had the game, but since i plan to wait for it to come to consoles, by that time the game will be complete and any feedback i could provide would be moot

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 7:12 AM

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I feel like that still applies now, when the feedback is not based on any experience

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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In any case, people can vote on feedback, so if people who actually have the game feel like you're wrong, they'll show it.

empty canopy Jan 16, 2019, 7:14 AM

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I would both agree and disagree to some extent on that. I can't provide feedback on things like how the game feels or difficulty, but i can watch videos of the updates thus far, and give feedback on what I see or feel could be imporoved from a outside perspective

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Note how most of my feedback focuses on mechanics and not, say, balance

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Plus it can sometimes help to look at it from a outside perspective.

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:16 AM

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im not sure how you even get to the contracts but you're assuming people who struggle/wouldn't want to make the game harder would go for it in the first place xD

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:17 AM

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The feedback isn't necessarily about providing mechanic ideas or solutions to perceived problems, it's more gauging how players feel about the game and what can be improved upon based on there subjective experience

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I don't think it's supposed to be objective

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@wise spear You'll want to break your feedback up into individual points as per the pinned guidelines in #hades-feedback

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:18 AM

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yep, that's why there's voting

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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Bam run number 12 is down!

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Wait what i have to work in 40 minutes... I havent slept..

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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F

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:19 AM

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Oh no... Oh Lizzy. Oh geez

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Please escape from Hades responsibly, everyone

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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guess you'll have a hell of a day :D

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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So that you can still find the energy to deal with your real-life hell(s)

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:20 AM

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Okay @forest marsh time to mess with our heads once more, I needed 46 or so encounters to finish my trinket! I got all 46 in that last run! ._.

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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calculated

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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It just doesnt make sense 😦

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:21 AM

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Yeah, I think a bug report might be in order at this point

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:22 AM

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Thing is the bug report is suuuuper vague, We don't know what to point at 😄

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:23 AM

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You just have to provide the report, not the solution friendly That's for them to figure out. Just give as much detail as you feel necessary in the text field

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Even just things like one run I got 28 ticks on the keepsake, and on another I got 46 ticks

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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yea

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Do chests count as separate encounters?

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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No

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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you don't have to form your bug report like you're a playtester xD

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Encounters according to the scripts I've looked at end when you exit the room

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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im sure they appreciate casuals too

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 7:24 AM

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yeah just say “this and this happened while doing this and this, I had this and this equipped” etc etc

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doesn’t have to be suuuuper detailed

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:25 AM

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but you exit the room after the chest

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hmm

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 7:25 AM

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as long as they get your save and get the gist of it, I think that’s the important thing

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:25 AM

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ye

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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Ill do that when i get home from work provided i dont collapse from sleep deprivation :D;

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Only needing 51 heat, then i can max the scroll!

forest marsh Jan 16, 2019, 7:26 AM

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Stay safe, stay strong, Lizzy

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You've got this

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And please get some sleep when you are home from work

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Take a nap as soon as you get back from work. Hades' moustache will still be there for you when you wake up.

stray radish Jan 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

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yes pls nap, do it for Hypnos

drifting hemlock Jan 16, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Naps always results in several hours of sleep ... But i gotta go now guys, cya later! Good luck in your runs! 😄

lost lichen Jan 16, 2019, 7:50 AM

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After about 20 runs with new patch I haven't seen Aphrodite once, anyone else with this issue?

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 7:50 AM

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just bad RNG probably

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Not gone that path but I could have gone to an Aphrodite boon room.

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 7:51 AM

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I like aphrodite just for her cast

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because her cast is bonkers

lost lichen Jan 16, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Just wanna confirm they did not "turn her off" or something

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 7:51 AM

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her cast is better than some of the other ones because AOE + armor piercing

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 7:51 AM

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nope, her boons are still available

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Given that it's taken me 15 runs to see a Zeus boon and finally get his keepsake, 20 runs without Aphrodite ain't much more.

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If you pick a God's keepsake, you're limiting yourself to only one (or two at most) other god.

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 7:52 AM

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It feels like the zeus attack blessings are a lot better now

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I got an epic one for 31 damage the other day

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it's nice because it's CC

pastel jolt Jan 16, 2019, 7:52 AM

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they buffed his damage in the patch

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 7:53 AM

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I wonder if they fixed the bow issue with the special of his yet

pastel jolt Jan 16, 2019, 7:53 AM

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which i’m excited to try out

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 7:53 AM

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you hit an enemy, it made ligtning sound effects like mad, a super dark spot on the ground, but only spawned one lightning orb

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admittedly, multiple lightning orbs would've been too strong

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but barrage is still very much inferior to anything else the bow can do

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It's an attack that takes two seconds to execute, locking you in place. And you got to merge with the enemy hitbox to get all your damage out of it

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if you use it as crow control, it lacks the damage to properly kill numbskulls >.>

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which is about the only thing I'd use it for

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Works fine with some stuff like Ares curse.

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Thing is, ares works with everything

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 7:55 AM

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Also really good on Hydra now that you can destroy the projectiles.

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Doesn't feel necessary, you can avoid the projectiles altogether by staying near the head.

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and pump him full of barrage instead

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also that's just the hydra

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it still does badly against meg

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unless it can backstab, it might be able to hit a hypothetical 400 damage on base with the hammer

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Still really hard to pull off a full backstab, but it would be rewarding

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needs more testing

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Still not sure how I feel on chaos either. Feels like a lot of the bonuses are too strong, for little hassle. whilst others are too weak, with a huge challenge.

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You can get three damage boosts for attack, with the epic one being the easiest to get? makes sense.

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Also, anyone ever experienced charmed enemy friendly fire with the legendary aphrodite boon?

young owl Jan 16, 2019, 8:17 AM

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yay, on fresh save killed hydra on second run, time to try get on the first run

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Zeus attack blessing is bonkers now

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literally more than doubles your dps when it's high rarity/level

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 8:46 AM

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good for fast weapons

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meh on shield

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meh on bow

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it's situational

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 8:47 AM

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How many ranks do keepsakes have

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 8:53 AM

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no clue

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I can only imagine a lot if earring goes up at 3% per stage -v-

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 8:54 AM

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maybe they are infinite but just keep increasing in encounter number before the next rank

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 8:57 AM

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shield can be fast, if you do it correctly shadesmile

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Infinity duster: in every pot a kebab dusa

willow kindle Jan 16, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Such a great morning to have a run in new update ❤

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cheers everyone! How's the upd so far?

tribal hornet Jan 16, 2019, 9:11 AM

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anyone else think it's super annoying that the bomb bois are essentially immune to knockback

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 9:12 AM

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They're not, once they lose their armour.

pallid lodge Jan 16, 2019, 9:13 AM

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50 tries,still see only 1 type of legendary boon(artemis), is there any legendary boons?

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 9:14 AM

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I think you can find information on those in the wiki

tribal hornet Jan 16, 2019, 9:15 AM

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even after they lose armor

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ive got the posiedon boon on my attacks and they just jump to me litteraly half a second after i attack

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its annoying

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 9:17 AM

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they're KB immune during their jump, I think

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 9:21 AM

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inferno bombers actually don't jump during their throw, it's a perfect moment to toss em in the lava for an easy 300 damage

tribal hornet Jan 16, 2019, 9:23 AM

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like a feel coronacht runs become super hard once you get to asphodel becasue it's impossible to keep them off you

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 9:23 AM

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Dash whilst aiming

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you will still shoot relative to your cursor

tribal hornet Jan 16, 2019, 9:23 AM

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even still

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 9:34 AM

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You can definitely keep them off you even with the bow.

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Wow

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you can get multiple chaos boons

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of the same type

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So you could get +160% cast damage just from two epic chaos boons

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BalAnCeD

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 11:17 AM

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I mean its in the name

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chaos

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 11:24 AM

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Plus, you're not guaranteed blood gates and there's no guarantee you'll find what you want there, unlike Olympian boons.

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 11:24 AM

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that's why it's Chaos!

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Chaos boon: for the next x encounters, eating onions kills you

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Hades:

rapid peak Jan 16, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Gotta go fast: https://imgur.com/a/fxQ3SvJ

Imgur

worthy dust Jan 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

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That's quick

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

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(Actual boon i got) Chaos: for the next x encounters traps deal 226% more damage

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The entirety of asphodel:

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 11:31 AM

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damn, that IS fast, my fastest is 15 shadeohboy

rapid peak Jan 16, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Got some sick boon combos with a zeus cast build

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 11:34 AM

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zeus cast makes so many rooms so fast and easy squirtdevious

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 11:38 AM

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i got a boon from chaos that obscures room rewards

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but instead of the doors showing up empty, they ALL show up as the sisyphus symbol

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so i was like friend?? friend?? nope

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 11:45 AM

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SAME

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I WAS SO UPSET

weary grove Jan 16, 2019, 11:46 AM

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When I grabbed that boon and saw both doors having it, I figured "Oh, I guess that'll work"

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 11:47 AM

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At least it's an easy challenge (especially when you, like me, didn't get any time when you had to choose between two rooms).

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Like, getting darkness and knowing the other room might have had a pom or a heart or a boon, that's a bit disapointing. But when you don't have a choice anyway, obscuring room rewards is of no consequence.

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 11:52 AM

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I think asphodel needs more traps, like swinging axes or something

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Actually its gotta be with the theme, flaming swinging axes

carmine zinc Jan 16, 2019, 11:54 AM

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http://prntscr.com/m7wuhj

Lightshot

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

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New record yay

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 11:56 AM

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werent there swinging axes in the noclip video? 👀

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i think theyre coming....... eventually

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Do you have everybody's hearts maxxed out already Darky? I see you've got tons of ambrosia 😮

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:11 PM

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Speaking of, with chaos at 3 hearts i cant give them any more ambrosia?

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Is it a bug?

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Have not checked out their codex entry yet. Are the hearts after the fourth locked?

manic goblet Jan 16, 2019, 12:12 PM

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might be locked, yeh

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:12 PM

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The hearts go up to 5

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Unlocked

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If i remember correctly and they havent fixed it

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But i was stuck at 3

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 12:21 PM

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chaos boon: -2 health while dashing
the stone crushers:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/027/174/veggie.jpg

rapid peak Jan 16, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Can only give a god once per escape attempt, that might be it? @analog crystal

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:27 PM

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No as in i reach chaos and the option to gift isnt there

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Idk they mightve fixed it, i havent played since last night

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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was it the first time you encountered chaos?

worthy dust Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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I couldn't gift on the first encounter

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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yeah

worthy dust Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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But that seems as designed

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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I had already gifted 3 times

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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I just checked, there are 5 unlocked hearts for Chaos.

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Yup

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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So you should be able to give a fourth ambrosia. Might be an oversight on their part.

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:29 PM

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It might b a bug and i have reported it but itd b nice to know if any1 else is getting it

errant narwhal Jan 16, 2019, 12:32 PM

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@spring jasper that feedback is a bug, report it with F10 when it happens!

spring jasper Jan 16, 2019, 12:33 PM

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ok, thanks didn't know how to report the bug now i know

shell talon Jan 16, 2019, 12:37 PM

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how many ranks are there for the keepsakes

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 12:38 PM

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don't know yet

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:39 PM

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https://gyazo.com/ec9672f4065f2d197307c06e46f338d2

Gyazo

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Casts are too good now

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I didnt even have the other artemis boons

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

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@analog crystal I got past three hearts, you need to unlock dialog options in the house first

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Ooo good to know thanks!

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 12:42 PM

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I've gotten bow builds where a perfect shot does 879 on crit

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pretty mental

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the fact that artemis can give 500% crits

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now imagine the same build, but with charged shot

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SNIPER BUILD

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One shot arrow

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 12:49 PM

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it's only broken bc we're only at the 2nd zone

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they will absolutely make us suffer in the upcoming areas

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 12:51 PM

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but, elysium sounds like a nice place!

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THEN AGAIN

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it is hell soooo

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I'm assuming "nice" in underworld standards mean, "the house of hades is the best you can get."

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 12:55 PM

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achilles didn't seem thrilled by it...but then again he has other issues lol

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 1:01 PM

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achilles described it as "too peaceful" And that he prefers having a job like on earth.

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Elysium is basically heaven for mortals, you can imagine they'll have some insane security 👀

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I mean, Asphodel is supposed to be just a field but is instead lava

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Elysium is prob also rekt

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 1:08 PM

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hades: hey i'm renovating hell

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elysium: (is in shambles)

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hades: done

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Maybe if Zag actually helped out for once it would be in better shape

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 1:09 PM

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wondering if they'll have a earth area after elysium

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tbh this game is way too cheap rn, then again early access. You know, how some companies still do early access right

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instead of cough cough sea of thieves cough cough 60 dollar early access, alright.

jade plover Jan 16, 2019, 1:39 PM

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question for yall

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how do i access the pact

shell talon Jan 16, 2019, 1:39 PM

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10 keys

jade plover Jan 16, 2019, 1:39 PM

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ah thats what that is

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cheers bruv

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 1:45 PM

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sdfjhfj i got a blood gate right outside the house

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chaos was waiting for me

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 1:46 PM

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I've worked out for everything on the pact apart from vicious torment costs 100 heat to max out

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Does anyone know how high vicious torment goes?

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I got it up to 400%

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But could still add to it

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 1:47 PM

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chaos, chaos https://i.imgur.com/Mx5rAAZ.png

Imgur

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 1:48 PM

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@analog crystal it goes extremely high. PAst 500% confirmed

frosty pier Jan 16, 2019, 1:51 PM

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Heh I got that thing on fury blade run

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 1:51 PM

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I feel like folks expect too much of the pact

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it's still early access

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they can't flesh out every feature completely in just a month

turbid needle Jan 16, 2019, 1:55 PM

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yep

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but its fun

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sadly its not harder its easyer

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this new pach made the game 100% win rate if i dont buff my enemy

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even whit a base darknes

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 2:03 PM

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I had 100% winrate pre-update, but now it is indeed trivial

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I wanna try and learn how to dodge all attacks

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so I can do max damage taken runs

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my biggest issue is numbskulls, survival rooms and voidstones

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maybe skull crushers too, the AOE on em is huge, their hitbox tiny

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 2:05 PM

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The armour changes def made numbskulls more of a pain

green musk Jan 16, 2019, 2:05 PM

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the issue is rooms where you get so many skull-o-mats you get swarms of em

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Yeah, it can def get out of hand

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 2:12 PM

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this was such a good build that i somehow pulled a hydra win despite using mouse and keyboard (i lost my controller connector, oops)

📎 Hades_00034.png

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Mouse and keyboard hype

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 2:14 PM

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i never use it so i'm real bad 😂

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it's so awkward going to new controls like that...

jade plover Jan 16, 2019, 2:17 PM

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ive never used a controller. cant get it to work lmao

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:26 PM

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just finished a run with 100 percent more dmg from enemies and +3 death insurance with bow, was pretty cool, but hydra was pretty scary doin 18 dmg slams lol

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 2:27 PM

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That does sound terrifying

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:28 PM

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yeah and that was with 20 percent dmg reduction:p

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skelebombs were doing 24dmg:p

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but bow is easiliy doable

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:28 PM

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I've found shield the best to run with for me

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:29 PM

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shield is allmost back to its former glory i feel

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I started playing last patch so I don't know how good it was before

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:29 PM

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feels alot more responsive now

opaque lagoon Jan 16, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I also got 1 666 time note in my game

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do all of you have it?

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:29 PM

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yeah it used to deflect without athenas:p

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and more dmg aswell

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:29 PM

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that sounds absurd

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:29 PM

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I accidentally did Hydra with 31% more damage taken (thanks, Chaos). 175 HP and 3 death defiances, won with nine of them and 5 HP left. Butt really clenched.

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Hey so Chaos seems bad to me

opaque lagoon Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Seriously guys, at the record time, do you all have 1666:39?

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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chaos is pretty cool i think

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yeah i have that aswell

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I tried chaos once and I chose the whenever you dash take 8hp

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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haha yeah dont do that haha:p

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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it said after 3 encounters I get 100hp which I assume would be permanant addition

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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i cant play without dash:p

lost rose Jan 16, 2019, 2:30 PM

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The 1666 thing is a preventative measure that should go away in a couple days and reflect an accurate time

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:31 PM

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nope just a 100 hp heal

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didn't increase my cap at all

opaque lagoon Jan 16, 2019, 2:31 PM

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oh, ok

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:31 PM

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didn't

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Chaos is great if you pick the right thing. 3 obscured rewards for 33% more damage? Sign me up!

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:31 PM

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i had one for 98 percent dmg:p

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pretty sick

opaque lagoon Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Chaos is great, and the charcter is awesome

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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and cast is getting a bit out of hand if u ask me:p

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Yeah see extra damage sounds fine I thought I was getting a permanent buff of 100hp seeemed nutty until I got nothing and wasted a death defy not dashing

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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was doin 800+ crits with artemis cast

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Chaos really needs to see some sun though.

opaque lagoon Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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you can get hp bonuses, but you have to choose something you can do without

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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cast is a requirement I finsd withou the dash boost.

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:32 PM

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rip artemis dash

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useless now

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Yeah it isn’t great

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:33 PM

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pressure points is better

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she got so great art now but her dash just got destroyed:p

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:34 PM

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It needs a bit of a rework but having it also work on special and cast is great. Just need to, say, double the crit chance.

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:34 PM

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yeah I thought with the not being able to dash then the reward be a +100hp (since 8hp is half the time a hit)

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:34 PM

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then pressure points is better

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so either a rework for dash or remove pressure points imo

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:35 PM

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I think artemis dash crit needs to be increased for chance. Before it was a garunteed crit which was too good but 10% at base rank feels... not a good chance

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:35 PM

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i thought it was great, the only dash i actually liked

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:35 PM

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like 9/10 times it does nothing

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:35 PM

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now its just garbage

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Yeah now it's eh

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I like Ares dash

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Get it to 30/40/50% depending on rarity and +10% per pom and it'd become good again.

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:35 PM

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then again I like abusing the blade spin it's fun

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:36 PM

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just had a run where i could choose between 15 percent hunter dash or 24 pressure points

dreamy jackal Jan 16, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Is there any point to the pact of punishment?

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Other than bragging right

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:37 PM

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i think it was fine, now the crit dmg does more but the chance is way too low

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nope just for more challlenge

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:37 PM

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People just thought the game was too easy and asked for more challenge.

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Also I kind of dislike the aphrodite boons, dunno why I just find them weak. Unless you get the more damage to weakened enemies her boons seem weaker than others but I started last patch and it says they nerfed her boons so maybe they were too good before?

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Some here were now having a 100% win rate. Some were able to beat the game with no mirror bonuses.

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:38 PM

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i thought the only easy way to play was bow now it feels overall a bit more balanced and smooth but also a little tedious

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losing quik temper is really hurting me

dreamy jackal Jan 16, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@woeful stirrup I see... Thanks

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Did the timing on bow change? I had more trouble than usual getting power shots, don't know if it's just because I'm tired or if they changed it.

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:39 PM

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yeah it feels worse now imo

dreamy jackal Jan 16, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Not to me, it’s the same

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Does the pact has max level in all catalogs?

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:40 PM

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to me it feels like a bit longer

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Yeah quick temper makes it a bit harder that said I found hydra much easier now

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:40 PM

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not by much but its harder to find that sweet spot

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yeah i though quik temper was good , allowed for more variation in combat , adding blood boil would have been great, now it feels like cast is the way to go

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:41 PM

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Hydra is definitely easier now that the projectiles can be countered. Before, if you made a mistake, you'd pay for it by taking ALL OF THEM in your face. Now, just give it a spear whirl, a bow special, a sword special or a good shielding to be safe.

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:41 PM

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like spam all three casts into the head and waling on it seems to work well, plus no stunlocking from the barrage

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:41 PM

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yeah hydra fight makes meelee specials more fun

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:41 PM

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yeah getting stunlocked by the hydra killed me so many times

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:42 PM

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since u can use it to destroy the big wave of projectiles before they do anything:p

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sword special just wipes all of em:p

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and the armored heads was also a great way to make extra armour dmg more viable

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Really, the only weapon that can't easily destroy all of them is the shield, now. But you can block, so it's fine.

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:43 PM

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I think I'm a noob but I cannot use the spear for the life of me XD

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:43 PM

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sword def is the hardest still for me

karmic berry Jan 16, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Am I the only one that feels like I have "completed" the update already? Was hoping for something new to Aim towards but the Heat system of slowly making the game harder doesn't really provide me with that

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:43 PM

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shield has become very good now imo

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yeah fredrik i was kinda dissapointed tbh

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I do like improved bullrush

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Armoured heads are fine, but they seem to have less health+armour than they had health before. Makes it a bit too easy. I could kill a head with two crits even though my bow only did 510 damage on crits.

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:44 PM

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but atleast the meelee weapons feel smoother now and i can actually complete runs with a sword

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I find the best thing about the hydra fight is the map change

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:45 PM

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The update is not completed until you've upgraded EVERYTHING, Fredrik. Also, get to work getting those 1000 Hades encounters.

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I find I'm not losing myself in all the chaos as much

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:45 PM

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hydra feels alot better now, goes real quik if u have decent build

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:45 PM

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prior the update I always lost my position due tot he zoomed out nature of the map

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I still die the most to dashing the wrong direction as I keep expecting as a semi-isometric like game (45 degrees) that pressing left will move me up-left rather than straight left :/

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:47 PM

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i wish we had a new weapon tho

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would have done alot for replay value, after over 200attempts making the game more challenging is not rly that exciting tbh

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 2:48 PM

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keepsakes have up to 3 ranks btw

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someone probs mentioned that before

peak harness Jan 16, 2019, 2:48 PM

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did someone upgraded pact of punishment already?

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i dont dare to lol

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:48 PM

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yeah but they start out worse then before mostly:p

livid kraken Jan 16, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I'm working on meg on max heat now

woeful stirrup Jan 16, 2019, 2:48 PM

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You can remove things from pact of punishment if you want to, so don't be scared of trying it.

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:48 PM

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yeah i id a run with 100 percent enemie dmg and 3 death insurance

peak harness Jan 16, 2019, 2:49 PM

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im still farming keys for God's Pride

merry jungle Jan 16, 2019, 2:49 PM

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the keepsakes are good, personally i don't really care for making it harder as I'm still grinding for darkness gems

indigo compass Jan 16, 2019, 2:50 PM

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im allraedy maxed on mirror 2 times so:p

peak harness Jan 16, 2019, 2:50 PM

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whats the max level now?

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Can blood gates spawn in megs room? Because light of ixion uses up 1 charge in her room but i dont think it spanws one

peak harness Jan 16, 2019, 2:50 PM

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of keepsakes

analog crystal Jan 16, 2019, 2:50 PM

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3

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 2:54 PM

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blood gates cant spawn in boss rooms or rooms before bosses

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and neither at charon's

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oh nice, https://i.imgur.com/PMqqAap.png

Imgur

somber epoch Jan 16, 2019, 2:55 PM

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gosh darn hydra rrrrrr

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 2:55 PM

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(i have the punishment buff that reduces food's effects)

somber epoch Jan 16, 2019, 2:55 PM

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i might still buy that tbqh

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hey so

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artemis isn't actually complete garbage

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surprinsingly

flint burrow Jan 16, 2019, 2:59 PM

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is it just me or did the update make the game like.. super easy if u dont use heat?

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 2:59 PM

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It’s def easier

proud storm Jan 16, 2019, 2:59 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/djbncpj.png

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somber epoch Jan 16, 2019, 2:59 PM

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i sitll can't get over hydra

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but that's just bc i dont know how to deal with the other heads that well

flint burrow Jan 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

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i just had a bow build doing 900 crits

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like... wat

somber epoch Jan 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

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i mean like

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after actually using a crit build, i like the changes to crit

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

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They boosted crit damage and reduced chance

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And yeah, I think crit builds are still a lot of fun

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More swing-y

flint burrow Jan 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

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yea but right now it feels like

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

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But that makes sense for crit

somber epoch Jan 16, 2019, 3:00 PM

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but here's the great thing

flint burrow Jan 16, 2019, 3:01 PM

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if they dont add more bosses / new areas soon..its getting boring

somber epoch Jan 16, 2019, 3:01 PM

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now you can take Artemis on attack without always sacrificing damage

flint burrow Jan 16, 2019, 3:01 PM

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do u get a reward for clearing a run while using heat ?

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more darkness maybe?

somber epoch Jan 16, 2019, 3:01 PM

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like, on my last run I had a 63% Attack damage increase from a chaos boon

worn dawn Jan 16, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Heat is just for flexing

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And making the game more challenging