#h1-builds-and-combat | Supergiant Games | Page 191

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:04 PM

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thats the same no matter what path you go though

obtuse merlin Jan 7, 2019, 2:05 PM

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I have found sword special is easily the best for crowd control

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better than spin dash even

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got chest done in 85+/100 range

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hydra was doable as well, just need to watch those nasty arrows

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if you get real close to back of head it will fire those arrows backwards

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nice exploit

grave cipher Jan 7, 2019, 2:10 PM

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My easiest deathless run was with the bow and a lucky string of pomegranate upgrades on the ares boon which deals delayed damages after each attack

obtuse merlin Jan 7, 2019, 2:13 PM

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on attack or special?

grave cipher Jan 7, 2019, 2:28 PM

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on attack

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:33 PM

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ughhhhhh

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i just lost a run because i got forced onto the hellboat

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it was a really fun playstyle too

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pommed-up zeus dash and flurry sword

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i even got zeus attack just before the boat

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Alas

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:34 PM

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Well, I guess that run ended up in a wreck

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Sounds like fun

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:35 PM

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It does sound reely fun

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 2:35 PM

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My last run had a Aphro boon

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:35 PM

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But not ferry feasible

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 2:35 PM

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one

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Did someone even beat a game with only 1 boon?

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Probably

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:38 PM

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hmmmm. got the spear for dark thirst this time

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i'm never sure what god to focus on with the spear

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poseidon's not great since, y'know, knockback defeats the whole point

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ares i feel like i attack too quickly for the curse to be worth focusing on

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Athena

obtuse merlin Jan 7, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@frosty pier I beat the game by using level 7 zues dash

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and nothing else

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:39 PM

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i feel like i never see her that often. maybe i should try that out

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oh, zeus dash gets stupid once you have it levelled a little

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in tartarus i was oneshotting numbskulls just dashing past on my way to kill bigger things

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Mad man, absolute madman

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:41 PM

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now there's not a single chance i'm taking dash but i feel like i cannot turn down that cast boon

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(i don't like athena's dash because it's slower)

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Those numbers on cast just too big

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Well if youre running spear

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Go for a special build

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The cast is fine too though

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:42 PM

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i went for cast and oh my god it's oneshotting things and it looks cool

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Na for spear you gotta go artemis dash and then spin to win

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:43 PM

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i need to try out cast builds more often now that i've got max ammo on it

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well no, lemon, i feel like i need to go with what's the most fun to play ;P

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Nah, spear special

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Spear special is great

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Well thats a fair and valid argument

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 2:43 PM

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just did a run with the artemis cast and it made hydra super ez

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they 2-3 shotted the smaller heads

stray radish Jan 7, 2019, 2:44 PM

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o Uno you got color xD

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:44 PM

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but if your just playing with spear for the points the fastest run comes from an artemis spin to win build

stray radish Jan 7, 2019, 2:44 PM

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and now im confused cause people here say spear special sucks?? but now its great? smh xD

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:44 PM

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spear special is the highest damage special in the game

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its probably the best one if used well but its still a special, so its damage and what not is still a far cry from an attack build. My first win was with a spear special build though so its not bad at the very least

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:46 PM

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i got a daedalus hammer and all three of the upgrades are for the special

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think the game is trying to tell me what i should have gone with lmao

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:46 PM

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cruel skewer is the best spear special. Impact blast is the worst

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:46 PM

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500% to armour, crit, or aoe?

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:46 PM

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cruel skewer just gives you a crit every time you use the spear its really good

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:47 PM

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i'll go with that then

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:47 PM

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well every special is a crit anyway

stray radish Jan 7, 2019, 2:47 PM

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i like the armor breaker

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:47 PM

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this is just a For Funsies run anyway if i wanted to be a tryhard i'd have gone bow again

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bc that's what i'm good with

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:47 PM

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you cant piece with impact blast so you lose pretty much all the damage

harsh bay Jan 7, 2019, 2:47 PM

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I only haven't won with sword yet

stray radish Jan 7, 2019, 2:48 PM

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yea the aoe is Not Great™

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:48 PM

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i have 2 wins with sword, 1 with bow, 1 with shield and 12 with spear XD

harsh bay Jan 7, 2019, 2:48 PM

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i have 4 with bow 1 spear and 1 shield

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:48 PM

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in my defence i use spear alot more than the others

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Spear is life

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:49 PM

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The AoE is anti-synergistic

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The crit upgrade is ludicrous

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Had you taken the Athena special upgrade

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 2:49 PM

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shield is life

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Youd be set

harsh bay Jan 7, 2019, 2:49 PM

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tho my spear win isn't showing up, so it just says bow - 4 shield - 1

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xD

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makes me sad

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Anyway, yeah, spear has been highly underrated Ive found

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Spear special, I mean

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:49 PM

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The only fun thing i could think of for impact blast to be fun would be poseiden knockback cause that sounds pretty funny

stray radish Jan 7, 2019, 2:50 PM

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omg xD

harsh bay Jan 7, 2019, 2:50 PM

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teach me the secret of the sword

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Whelp, won a "shield" run. Which was really a giant Athena cast run.

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:50 PM

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spear special + athena special damage + artemis clean cuts would demolish most enemys

stray radish Jan 7, 2019, 2:50 PM

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hey Athena has a shield, it's still shield run

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Dw dan my "bow" win was just a cast run

harsh bay Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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my shield win was with Zeus cast and cheesing with captain America throws making them bounce off walls while in cover

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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i really, really wish that if you have guaranteed crits already, artemis wouldn't offer you it again

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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captain Tartarus*

harsh bay Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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ahh i like it

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xD

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Yeah that part is dumb

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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I did a self-imposed challenge of bow special only. Took like 5 times as long as any other run I've done. Eventually beat Hydra but was incredibly tedious and technical.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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my special is already guaranteed to crit, so it's a total waste for her to offer me a "special has chance to crit" boon

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:51 PM

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She should just give you crit upgrades

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:52 PM

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I tried cruel skewer with artemis crit special hoping it would stack XD

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 2:52 PM

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any1 know if the damage buffs from hammer and boons are additive or multiplicative?

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:53 PM

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additive

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Im not sure actually

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Just add up all the % and thats how much damage you do for the most part. Some things seem to act weirdly

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if im wrong there somebody with 300 hours can inform us all but im pretty sure thats how damage is calculated

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 2:58 PM

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That's right what secretlemon says (got only 200hrs in the game, I think that still counts curlthChad ) . Most the time addinf is right. We tested and calculated one thing that was actually multiplicative in my stream one time but I forgot which one it was.

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 2:59 PM

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cool thanks

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 2:59 PM

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so yeah mostly additive but funky sometimes

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also i just realised i have no roles. yeah boi!
Also whats yah stream name?

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:00 PM

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My profile has a link to it

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Love to talk balance and feedback there. But probably no hades today. Maybe in the last 1-2 hrs some runs

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Well, Aphrodites sweet surrender is definitely multiplicative

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But I was under the impression that Ares' attack upgrade was as well

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:01 PM

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is that the one that makes mobs take more dmg when they're weak?

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Also, if that is true, the 100% extra damage based on range for spear special is even worse than I imagined

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Yeah urge to kill was it!!

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:02 PM

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The 200% damage to distant foes is just a worse cruel skewer unless you already have crit damage on the spear

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 3:03 PM

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I mean, it already was

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But if its not multiplicative, its even worse

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So Urge to Kill and Sweet Surrender are multiplicative

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Good to know

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Supergiant just stick to one type of damage stacking XD

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Then Urge will be meh

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Even Meher meh that it already is

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:08 PM

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urge is only good to just pick up if you get forced into a ares encounter

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:11 PM

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ugh

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i'm definitely still getting damaged by the bombs the inferno-bombers drop when they die

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when the room is complete i mean

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:13 PM

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it's a bit strange how much of the reward structure in a run is focused on permanent progression. I didn't think about it too much early, but it doesn't take long for ambrosias and keys to become dead items that clog up your runs

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Well that's the problem of early access

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Yeah, that still catches me sometimes. Despite planning for it and dash spamming at the kill.

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:16 PM

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sure, I expect that to be changed somewhat down the line

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:16 PM

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@pastel jolt

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@severe orchid I have been pushing for "sack of unused collectibles" as one of the new weapons.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:17 PM

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how the hell did this run make it to hydra

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:17 PM

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As SGG said, thir goal was so game would not be embarrasingly bad at this point

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:17 PM

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(and yes i doubled back to buy that darkness there)

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Eh, I had worse

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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The power of a level 4 cast

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Athena Cast is much damage.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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i'm doing like 300 damage per cast which is nice

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or, well, when i'm earring'd i do

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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That was how I beat my "shield" run last time. No good boons, bad hammer. So just big athena balls all day.

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:18 PM

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My worst win was just a level 2 epic aphrodite cast

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and a bunch of really really useless boons

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but good job getting there

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deflection op

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Also funfact for people who dont know. You can deflect the bomb throwers bombs back at them doing around 200 damage on a backstab

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Yeah, having deflect attack actually makes them pretty easy as long as you don't stand next to them and let them drop 3 bombs on your head.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:20 PM

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oh my god, trying to retrieve your cast ammo from the hydra is the literal worst

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Yup

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Have fun

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:21 PM

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just cheese its main phase and 1 shot its weaker heads with cast burst

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:21 PM

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welp

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got it to the second heads phase

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:21 PM

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You did your best

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:21 PM

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just once i'd like to win a run without using the bow

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:22 PM

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My win screen now is something like 12 bow, 1 sword, 2 shield, 1 spear.

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I got my win screen bugged 😦

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And I dont remember any my stats 😦

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:23 PM

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I would REALLY like a boon that removes stagger from damage. Most of my runs end when I mess up on hydra and catch a mouthful of purple needles.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:24 PM

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welp, i have meg, achilles, and orpheus maxed on ambrosia now

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yeah, that hitstun is most of the reason i died just now

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you get hit by one and it basically guarantees you'll get nailed by the rest of the barrage

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Once new content comes out I am excited to return to full bow until I stand astride it like a might colossus before returning to the less good weapons.

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Did my first Zeus legendary run this weekend. That is fun and wacky.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:29 PM

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anyone know about how much darkness it takes to max out the mirror without including the rare/epic boon upgrades?

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:30 PM

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its around 3k

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:30 PM

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@tarcin I have nearly 700 keys 400 ambrosia and 30k darkness left over right now pupperLUL pupperGrump

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:30 PM

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also if bow is as good as everyone is saying next major patch its probably getting a nerf

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:30 PM

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I just hope they implement a currency dump in the next few updates

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:31 PM

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oh nice, i'm most of the way there then

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:31 PM

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curl is ready to buy that super sweet omega 9001 hades delux door

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Just give the bow dmg fall off with every pierce and nerf triple shot to 60% dmg with every arrow

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:31 PM

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jeez

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Problem probably solved

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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the epic and rare boosts at the bottom cost 7500 in total by themselfs

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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My body is ready yes

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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that sounds a bit overkill curl

plush blaze Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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@raven thistle 5k not 7.5

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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havent finished those two yet sadly

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its 7.5k isnt it. you can get 50 levels in each cant you

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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some of that would be resolved if key and ambrosia rooms were less common

plush blaze Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Epic is 25 levels

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:32 PM

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ud get a ridiculous amount eventually

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but at least I wouldnt have to be sad every 5th room

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xD

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:33 PM

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oh my mistake i havent maxed it yet and i assumed it would tie with rare

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@rough condor that + a nerf to the artemis dash would bring the bow down considerably

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:34 PM

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I had once a boon with 3 normal rarity upgrades with epic/rare maxed out. I don't know how low the possibility for that is shadesmile

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Yeah Artemis dash is a separate topic. That would serve it right to lower the crit chance to 30%or something like that

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:36 PM

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lowering it to 30% would just make it bad though. I think a better option would be the crit damage is only 1.5 or 1.34

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the game has enough rng as is better to keep combat as fixed damage wise as possible

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:37 PM

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30% but 3s time. Every 3rd attack is theoretically a crit than if you use it right

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Hm but rogue likes live from rng

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Crit chance is not a superhard rng thing in my opinion

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:38 PM

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True but a theoretical crit and a guaranteed crit are different. A dash crit is asking you to take a risk to get its effect. If you dont get that crit and suddenly the enemy is alive your in a bad spot, especially since you cant upgrade its crit chance

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:39 PM

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there is generally 0 risk in dash crits

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:39 PM

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This is if it only had a 1/3 chance of coming up

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:39 PM

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still 0 risk

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unless you are being weird and dash critting an armored unit thats at full armor right in its face

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:40 PM

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Yeah I always dash before I shoot. So I can position myself better. Never use charge and the dash to release the hsit

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:40 PM

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so if you dashed into a room of enemys thinking you could get the kill but it didnt go off you could take a considerable amount of damage

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:41 PM

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are we considering having a second dash, or are we talking baseline single dash only

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:41 PM

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For a bow its risk less just a damage down, but look at a melee weapon. Imagine going in for a crit and not getting it. In most cases it might be negligable but in tight areas it could have a pretty big danger

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:42 PM

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id question why you are making unsafe dashes to begin with, but if you have a second dash you can get away with even some bad dash attacks

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Take the challange room in the second area. Its fairly tight so even a safe dash could still be somewhat dangerous

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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are you talking about the floating "death boat" in asphodel?

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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That one

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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simple

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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oooooooof

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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just slow walk to herd the enemies around

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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died to meg again

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:43 PM

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and then dash safely

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:44 PM

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that's twice now i've faced meg with the shield and died, i can consistently beat her with every other weapon

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:44 PM

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good luck sparrow. you cant do it

manic goblet Jan 7, 2019, 3:44 PM

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mean :(

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:44 PM

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you'll get there!

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shield takes some adjustments haha

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Does it really?

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:45 PM

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And frosthaven, what it comes down to is a risk for high damage or no damage or a lesser amount of consistent damage. Im of the opinion that more consistent damage is better, since rng aspects in combat can cause problems but its up to the devs

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:45 PM

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it's the damage

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Shield is easies to beat Meg with for me >_>

rough condor Jan 7, 2019, 3:45 PM

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I like the ares attack modifier for the Shield at meg

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:46 PM

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i had a buffed-up athena attack and was still barely denting her

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:46 PM

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The shield is the safest but slowest weapon imo

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atleast in that section of the game

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:46 PM

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@raven thistle i dont mind your stance on rng vs consistency, my only contention was on the stance that dashing in general ever has to be unsafe 👍

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:46 PM

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safest? i was out of death defies by the time i got to meg :/

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i used to be good with the shield until they nerfed the damage AND took deflect away, at the same time, which i feel like was overcompensating

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:47 PM

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Charges mon It is all about the charges

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And knockback

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:47 PM

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the charge, right, the one that doesn't seem to benefit from any of the boons i have

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:47 PM

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i dont even use bull rush on meg usually. though i do hold charge to absorb the projectile spam sometimes

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:47 PM

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"your attack deflects now! oh, but not when you're holding down attack. only when you play tennis."

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Charge is attack, no?

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It deflects while you fly >_>

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:48 PM

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Frost i completly agree that dashing never has to be unsafe, i was just talking about a fast more risky playstyle, as most people i think wont be playing 100% safe under normal conditions

sparrow, i said safest because its kite is definitely the best (aside from bow i dont use it so im not sure of its kite) as you can just throw it and run

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:49 PM

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hmm i guess. but at the same time i don't want to just be okay with giving dash spam runs an easy way to clear everything - sort of defeats the purpose of the genre if you can just spam win everything

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Cant disagree with that

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Yeah, I guess it's a problem with me, but I haven't really gotten the shield block while charging to work especially well. Even if I block some stuff, I always get dinged more than is healthy while trying to be clever with blocks.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:51 PM

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on meg?

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Really everywhere.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:51 PM

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ah

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:51 PM

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I'm better at just evading with dashes than trying to use that functionality.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:52 PM

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yeah, meg is the only place i hold it for projectile defense

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and thats only if i know there aren't witches trying to be cute off to the side of me

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:52 PM

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@turbid needle i would reply in feedback, but since i cant post in that chat i guess il be doing it here. I think rather than taking away dash damage, some dashes such as Poseidon, Aphrodite and Athena should be much more defensive but dashes such as Zeus, Artemis and Are's should be even more offensive but come with a downside such as a slower recovery time

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Feedback sticky tells you how to post in feedback.

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:52 PM

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RIP tarcin

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:53 PM

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😦

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I didnt know feces was that offensive

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:53 PM

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i never looked at the sticky TY dan il probably do it after i sleep since its about time for me to hit the haysac

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:55 PM

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don't worry, nobody ever seems to! :)

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Part of me wishes feedback / tech support were forums rather than chat. BUT NO ONE ASKED ME.

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😃

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:57 PM

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i think its a conveyance problem in discord. pinned messages in all servers have to be called out.

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in my experience

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Before i get off, i would like to make one last comment on dashes. Although offensive dashes do need some punishment to stop them being an extremely easy way to win, they should still be a playstyle as watching someone dash around a big boi and just drop them is pretty funny

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 3:57 PM

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but thats neither here nor there

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oh i still do plenty of dashing - more than walking - im just careful about it 😛

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Only dash you can really murder things with is Zeus. Everything else isn't enough damage.

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:58 PM

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A buffed ares dash hurts

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Get a good Zeus epic dash and feed it poms, you can clear without using any other button.

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 3:58 PM

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ares dash does pretty good damage as well. its just bad against enemies that move alot

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 3:58 PM

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if you can hit anything with it

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Some happy medium needs to be struck where dashs are still a viable source of damage, yet a buffed up zeus dash can just 1 shot everything

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 3:59 PM

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I like to imagine Zag just rubbing pomegranates on his legs.

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 4:00 PM

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they just need to tighten up the ranges on zeus dash

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Also, I haven't found an appreciable difference between Hades Gameplay and Hades Discussion.

raven thistle Jan 7, 2019, 4:01 PM

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anyway night everybody. I think thats because we kinda just merged them athough gameplay should probably be run focuses, while discussion should probably be changes, money sinks and questions about the game

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:01 PM

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bloodless: if armored i bait the charge or safely poke, otherwise dash engage all day
brimstone: dash engage to their side all day
inferno bomber: dash engage all day, dash out and back in if they are throwing bombs i cant deflect
numbskull: dash engage all day unless my damage is too low to 1-2 shot them
skullomat: dash engage all day if not surrounded
slam dancer: dash engage all day, dash out if they slam and then dash back in
voidstone: dash engage all day
lout: dash engage if not armored, whittle down armor first otherwise
pest: dash engage all day, dash out of mine range after
thug: dash engage all day if no armor. otherwise, reg attack until they flash > dash behind them to finish armor/shield
witch: dash engage over or around their projectiles all day

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❤

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safe dashing by no means equates to being slow

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:02 PM

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I had a decent Ares cast run with the homing / increased duration T2. But it still leaves things up too long. Was VERY good on murderboat though.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:03 PM

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nice!

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Close-packed walls for it to bounce off of help that one out a lot.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:04 PM

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the lower time on casts being held really makes or break how i feel about cast runs

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unless its a rift

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I might try a no-attack-or-dash crit boon all regular attack bow run. Just to see how it goes. I'm pretty good at just doinking everything with powershots from range and never getting hit.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:06 PM

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poseidon might actually be a good choice for that

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just for the pushback extra security

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:07 PM

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i just had a dumb idea but i'm tempted to put it in feedback

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you know how meg charges at you

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:07 PM

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lets hear it

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yep

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:07 PM

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what if tricking her into charging into a wall made her take wall slam damage :'D

grand patrol Jan 7, 2019, 4:07 PM

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OOO

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:07 PM

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i like it

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:07 PM

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i mostly just think it'd be funny

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:08 PM

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actually, thats a good way to convey to users how to do that fight too

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"make her charge into things" sums up the entire sidestep strategy

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:09 PM

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I'd like to be able to do slam damage to her by knocking her spawns into her.

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Even if we can't knock her around.

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Would give poseidon a use on that fight.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:09 PM

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jesus, i'm playing really, really sloppily today, either that or i'm just getting worse runs than usual :c

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yeah i feel like that'd be another benefit as well

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poseidon's knockback stuff is really fun to use but it's lackluster on meg and hydra because there's no use for it

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:10 PM

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the secret is in talking to skelly in the armory before you hop out the window.
+1 superstition and guaranteed good runs 😏

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 4:12 PM

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poseidon seems pretty terrible in general honestly

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:12 PM

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ive thought about poseidon a bit because i usually ignore him, but I feel there is value in having boons specific to clearing non-boss rooms. I imagine as we get more floors it'll be like every roguelite where you end up mastering boss fights and the rooms become the real rng difficulty.

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:12 PM

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With current content you don't get near enough time to play with the Aphro / Poseidon legendaries. Really excited for another floor so I have a reason to pursue Poseidon again.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:13 PM

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dan seems to be on the same page haha

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:13 PM

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i mostly like poseidon because tempest strike on bow is really, really nice

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:13 PM

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I got to have two or three rooms of double YEET and that was hilarious and fun.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:13 PM

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it's a good damage buff and the knockback is very helpful when you're using bow

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Sends dudes to the moon.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:14 PM

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i really want that aphro weakness to feel like it is worth it, but until enemies start doing a lot more damage it'll be meh

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more scaled floors are the answer!

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:14 PM

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compared to something like, say, aphrodite, where you're probably doing something wrong if enemies actually hit you when you're using the bow

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:14 PM

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thats sort of like the death defy or +25 hp keepsakes too

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Yeah, and the extra damage to weakened foes is way below curve compared to other buffs.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:15 PM

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once you play enough to be decent they are just paper weights in the menu

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 4:15 PM

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the knockback is fine, but there are other paths that give the same or more damage, plus I think his dash is pretty bad when compared to most other dashes

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Poseidon makes a good substitute for Athena on attack. But with current content and numbers, nothing comes close to Athena attack and Artemis dash-crit. On pretty much any weapon.

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 4:16 PM

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plus, when I exhaust the attack/dash of other gods I find that they normally give better rewards than the currency rewards that poseidon dumps on you

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:16 PM

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If you get an early 2 Poseidon boons, with the bonus room rewards as your second, that can make a very strong run.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:17 PM

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here's a question: with poseidon knockback dash, can you dash into a skeleton and be out of range of their charge? or do they still hit you?

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if they can still hit you, the dash does nothing useful

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:17 PM

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You can if you immediately dash out again. 😃

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Ive found that poseidon dash makes some really strange things happen when you hit teh same mob multiple times

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:17 PM

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If you're dashing into skeletons on your third dash you are doing it wrong. 😃

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 4:17 PM

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it makes me take damage I normally wouldnt

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:17 PM

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agree with that @tulip timber , but if poseidon could circumvent that it'd be like the one useful thing

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haha

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:18 PM

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My first several rooms lately seem to be Heart -> Darkness -> Key or Ambrosia -> Darkness -> Boon or Hammer.

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REALLY annoying.

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:18 PM

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so you end up slowboating the challenge room on f1 and maybe meg

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that sounds frustrating

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:19 PM

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i finally unlocked the epic chance upgrade on the mirror which means keys are now useless to me and it's already annoying me to see keys crop up as room rewards

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:19 PM

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I'm telling you, sack of unused collectibles as next weapon.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:19 PM

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oh, hey, opinions on which god to pick first?

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(i jsut realised it's a bit hard to read so my dash currently does 73 damage)

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Neither of those are bad. I'd go for Zeus just because you're more likely to get something you can use in the ensuing room fight than if you pick Aphro.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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i'm thinking i'd wanna go zeus f--

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yeah

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Like Zeus cast.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:20 PM

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given my attack inflicts weak i kinda want to see if i can get the one that increases damage on weakened enemies

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:21 PM

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You're more likely to get that if you take up another T1 with Zeus.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:21 PM

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ohohohohoho epic cast boon from zeus

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127 damage chain lightning cast? yes please.

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:21 PM

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🤑

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 4:23 PM

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what's with meg's invulnerability move overlapping with her other attacks?

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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its evil

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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muahahahahahaha epic sweet surrender

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:24 PM

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invuln imo should only appear during very specific attacks of hers and never just "randomly"

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makes me sad every time

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:25 PM

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@pastel jolt Grants on your impending clear.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:26 PM

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eh, don't be so sure

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i managed to screw up the trial badly enough that i'm out of death defies

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Epic lightning cast and dashes will be v. good for hydra though.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:30 PM

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alright, hydra showtime

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ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:31 PM

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make it to at least the second set of hydra heads and you'll get props from me!

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skull earring getting some mileage

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:33 PM

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hahahahahahha ha

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ha

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no

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i really, really love when i try and fire a cast and zag decides to fling it in the entirely opposite direction, and then the hydra decides to stunlock me with that stupid barrage attack

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almost got to the second set of heads at least

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ugh, i'm at the point where i'm getting annoyed by dying so i think i need to take a break

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Wait, Im pretty sure Meg does take wallslam damage if you hit her while she is dashing into a wall

manic goblet Jan 7, 2019, 4:39 PM

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she only takes damage from bricks, I think

placid pike Jan 7, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Take a break or go for a really dumb build.

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Use Sisyphus Keepsake and try to see how much rubble you can throw on enemies.

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 4:41 PM

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eh, i'd rather just take a break

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when i'm annoyed with a game i tend to play worse and worse and it turns into a really nasty spiral

placid pike Jan 7, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Sparrow needs to use Roost to recover their hp.

grand patrol Jan 7, 2019, 4:44 PM

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sparow uses they/them, please

ivory dragon Jan 7, 2019, 4:48 PM

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hmm

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sorry to hear that @pastel jolt maybe a small break is good from time to time 😄

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also i hope everyone has a great adventure in the world of hades, gonna hop off from here

tawdry sleet Jan 7, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I still need to work on my understanding of dash iframes

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it has a slight window in the middle right?

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or does it?

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Iframes exist

hard holly Jan 7, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Though most people call them "glasses"

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Atleast I had few acended moments then I iframed Meg

turbid needle Jan 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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does anyone else think that the extra ads on the hydra fight are overkill, the fight is already tough enough

tawdry sleet Jan 7, 2019, 5:06 PM

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I deffo need to work on my dash timing at times on the Meg fight then

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I often get caught with damage while dashing through her

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I should probs just not dash through her

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 5:07 PM

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there's a lot going on with the hydra fight, but you can destroy the little balls that spawn them, so I think the ads are fine

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 5:13 PM

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good luck trying to destroy them without getting obliterated by everything else going on in the fight

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 5:15 PM

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I try and do green heads first. Ads are really only an issue on 6 head phase, or bad 4 head (with 3 on a side). Clearing space to breathe is priority 1, and the ads typically don't spawn super fast.

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 5:27 PM

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sure, sometimes ur gonna get overrun, not saying it's ideal. I think it's fine as a mechanic on the fight though, the question is rather if they should have a longer timer to make it a bit more manageable to get rid of them in a safeish way

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 5:29 PM

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The time is pretty long already. They count down from 3, but I don't think it's 3 seconds.

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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5 seconds

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I could be wrong.

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Yeah, you should be clearing at least one head in 5 seconds. It's getting that first head down that is VERY important in 6 head phase.

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If you're not doing that, not sure the adds matter that much anyway.

severe orchid Jan 7, 2019, 5:39 PM

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I think it's fine as is

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but if ppl think it's an issue, then I think the solution is to extend the timer rather than remove them

hybrid kestrel Jan 7, 2019, 5:50 PM

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does avenging gain work with specials (eg shield throw?)

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it does say "by counter-attacking right after" but there's no button prompt like in quick temper (bonus if you attack (ATTACK BUTTON) dodging (DODGE BUTTON)

tacit flax Jan 7, 2019, 6:02 PM

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I think it's all damage, I've recovered health with dash damage before

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 6:34 PM

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So long as you do damage to something it works. It works with the damage-retaliation boons too.

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Every one of those is basically instant damage reduction so long as something is close enough to get hit by the retaliate.

pallid lodge Jan 7, 2019, 10:11 PM

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1st time killed this hydra

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https://gyazo.com/221718b6c907945e8ae8441d1b517b19

Gyazo

pastel jolt Jan 7, 2019, 10:12 PM

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congrats!

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 10:13 PM

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So many boons.

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Stacked to the limit, I honestly envious. Lately I had to dance with 2-3 boons per run

pallid lodge Jan 7, 2019, 10:14 PM

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Every time i want to make zeus/ares build i got bad boons.So girls gave me some boons ^_^

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Yeah girls have boons alright...

pallid lodge Jan 7, 2019, 10:16 PM

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dusa

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 10:16 PM

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My main complaint is getting some "meh" boon and then getting pomegranate bonanza.

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So I end up with something stupid like level 6 Poseidon dash.

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 10:18 PM

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How do you even get something so bad that upgrading Poseidos' dash of all things is a way to go?

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

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If it is your only boon, that is where the Poms go.

pallid lodge Jan 7, 2019, 10:19 PM

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daedalus specails upgrades on spear)

tulip timber Jan 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

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And if my choice is Pom or Key, or if I can't afford anything but Pom, then it's better than another collectible.

hollow notch Jan 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

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@pallid lodge it works nice if you have areas boon

pallid lodge Jan 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

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IF

hollow notch Jan 7, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I wanted to try it once, but ended up with something else entirely

hybrid kestrel Jan 7, 2019, 10:51 PM

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what is the song that plays in megaera stage?

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the painful way?

frosty pier Jan 7, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Yup

marsh pawn Jan 8, 2019, 12:12 AM

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https://imgur.com/a/nl9Ms6g

Imgur

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lul

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 12:14 AM

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my god

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o7

marsh pawn Jan 8, 2019, 12:22 AM

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lvl 10 arnes dash is broken

night pasture Jan 8, 2019, 1:15 AM

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first hydra win!!!!

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Congrats!

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What build did you have?

night pasture Jan 8, 2019, 1:19 AM

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triple shot bow, two levels of hunter's dash, and then whatever athena attack boons + upgrades I could find

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I was trying for her legendary but didn't realize you needed to pick up brilliant riposte, oops

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but when you and the gang gave me advice from a week or so ago, you were absolutely right, the key is to crank attack damage

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meg went down in less than 15 seconds, I was incredibly surprised

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Nice! Glad to hear it worked out shadesmile

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 1:24 AM

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15 seconds? Damn, I always have trouble dealing damage to Meg. She's harder than the Hydra for me stumptLol

night pasture Jan 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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it was completely luck but I managed to get up right behind her when she was casting pools so each power shot was backstab x3

stark citrus Jan 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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poseidens knockback on the bows special, combined with the double arrows boon from the hammer is hilarious.

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now to find poseiden's legendary

oak harbor Jan 8, 2019, 1:37 AM

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@woeful stirrup dude same...

primal folio Jan 8, 2019, 2:07 AM

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honestly my favorite combo with Poseidon has to be the Artemis dash boon

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I lucked into getting a sword build with it and with the knockback i could just constantly chain dash after targets

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 2:45 AM

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i have the dorkiest build right now and frankly i'm amazed it's working out

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shield + extra bounces + ares special + zeus dash

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 2:45 AM

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Sounds messy

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I'm shocked you're still going zeus

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 2:52 AM

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i just killed meg from the other side of the room

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there is absolutely no reason this build should work and yet

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 2:53 AM

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Just ridin' that wave

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Don't question it, just enjoy

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 3:06 AM

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hey guys my idiot build survived the hellboat with no death defies lost somehow and i'm not going to think too hard about that

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forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 3:06 AM

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I feel joy for you

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 3:09 AM

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idiot build has reached the hydra

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if this actually wins i'm going to be so confused

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 3:10 AM

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The power to succeed was inside you all along friendly

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 3:13 AM

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this is an idiot build how has it survived to the second heads phase

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 3:14 AM

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It's not the build, sparrow

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Believe in yourself

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 3:14 AM

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alas, too many heads

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i was literally just dashing round in circles and stuff was dying

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(shield special builds are fatally flawed because asphodel has no walls)

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Always a pain when you can't block or attack because your shield has gone on a vacation somewhere far away.

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That damn shield might even have gone out of hell a few times when I threw it, given how long it took to come back.

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 3:58 AM

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Pour one out for another lost shield, everyone guyjudgeCheers

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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The way out of hell might be easier than we thought. Take the shield, find Sysiphus. Stand on the shield, ask Sysiphus to throw it. Hang on for dear life while you zoom straight to Olympus.

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Also, I love how the shield hisses when you charge it.

grave iris Jan 8, 2019, 4:09 AM

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hey y'all noob question but is hydra the end of Hades rn or is there more?

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 4:09 AM

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It is the end of the current content, yes

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New content which may or may not include more playable area(s) will be out on Jan 15th, though

grave iris Jan 8, 2019, 4:17 AM

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thanks sm!!!

dapper heart Jan 8, 2019, 5:01 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340618610227544065/532060792149901312/unknown.png Another Hydra win!

dapper heart Jan 8, 2019, 6:52 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340618610227544065/532088863280070666/unknown.png I'm slowly improving. I've found with spears, Athena's attack is super helpful.

forest marsh Jan 8, 2019, 6:54 AM

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Looks like a good tanky build

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 7:26 AM

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Just got a win on a dash zeus build. Its so dumb but it put me into so many bad spots

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got alot closer than it needed when i lost 100 hp to a piss of artemis

night radish Jan 8, 2019, 7:28 AM

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JUST BEAT MY FIRST RUN WOOO

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Ares proc carried me at the end

lost rose Jan 8, 2019, 7:36 AM

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woohoo, congrats!!

dapper heart Jan 8, 2019, 7:37 AM

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Congrats!

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 7:59 AM

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I cant add an image of my current dumb build 😦

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up to hyrda with my main damage source being ares special proc

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That was the dumbest win i've ever gotten

sour jasper Jan 8, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Am i the only one that thinks the boss fights are sort of "passive" you do what you do, they do what they do and there really isnt interaction beyond your position adjusting the direction and proximity of the boss? Meg for instance, is a serious dmg sponge that does her things and your interaction is essentially only based on your position. Your attacks and actions have no impact on the fight until she dies. You dodge, ok. You attack, ok. you throw a missle, ok. There is no actual interaction aside from she follows you for her slide attack and does spinny attack when close.

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Bosses in a nutshell

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Not sure what interaction you'd expect otherwise? 🤔

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 8:08 AM

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I mean more variation in attacks such that they didnt rely on swarms of minions to do half the damage/distraction would help

sour jasper Jan 8, 2019, 8:09 AM

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some actual, gameplay. You hit with a missile she counters with her barrage, giving you a potential advantage to close the gap. You hit her with a full combo she is knocked back and dashes away spawning enemies

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you know some standard actual game play

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the things you do matter

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:09 AM

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that's not standard at all

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Bosses in most games just "do their thing" while targeting you

sour jasper Jan 8, 2019, 8:10 AM

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im trying to think of examples, but im kinda drunk. You may be right, but it would be better

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 8:10 AM

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Most bosses dont react to how you play, as its complicated to add that, although no one would complain in that case

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I feel reactive combat for someone like meg would be good while the hydra which is dead and thus lacks intelligence should just do its own thing

sour jasper Jan 8, 2019, 8:12 AM

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i cant even get to the hydra so im def not the expert on this game

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i usually get killed by meg or hordes of invincible crap in the lava

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 8:13 AM

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The only real painful part of the lava area is when the armoured numbskull spawners get shielded when theres like 5 of them

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Shield stones are so annoying to deal with, especially if you play Shield shadeeyeroll

sour jasper Jan 8, 2019, 8:15 AM

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i think i hate the fat guys the most of all the enemies so far. they always hit me when i think im out of range and when they are armored just belly slam me without much in the way of telegraph

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high health, high mobility, high dmg

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anyone use the bow? that thing is tough to use

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:19 AM

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yeh, with the right hammer upgrade, that thing is arguably the best weapon atm

sour jasper Jan 8, 2019, 8:20 AM

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which upgrade? fast firing?

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Triple Shot

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 8:22 AM

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so

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what's a good build for the sword

sour jasper Jan 8, 2019, 8:22 AM

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i dont think i have seen triple shot yet

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 8:22 AM

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i sorta wanna try stuff but i also wanna know what others have been finding successful

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:22 AM

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Take it when you see it

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And play shotgun bow

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My most recent sword clear was with Fast Attack (forgot the name) and an attack upgrade

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 8:24 AM

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flurry blade

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:24 AM

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I completely ignored my special and just mashed LMB

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 8:24 AM

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yea that's what i usually go for but i never manage to finish the hydra

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:25 AM

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Hydra is hard with sword, gotta know when she goes for the bite and cheese the darts

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 8:25 AM

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yeah i never actually see the bite, and the rapid fire darts always seem to catch me

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i had a run that was ended with the hydra casting the rapid fire darts 5 times in a row

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just never had a window to do anything

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:27 AM

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the correct positioning lets you ignore the darts

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 8:28 AM

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hmm i'll have to keep running it to find it

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even if i get bad boons and upgrades

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:30 AM

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Hydra is very doable, even with sub-optimal builds, once you understand how avoidable the darts are

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the last multi head phase is still annoying though...

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 8:54 AM

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yeah i managed a low dmg shield build

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by bouncing off the wall while behind cover

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took an extra 40~mins

solid sandal Jan 8, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Hydra is soo easy with sword

split flicker Jan 8, 2019, 9:15 AM

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the thing with the darts is that it's actually better to be closer right?

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either close or very far

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not mid range

glacial cloak Jan 8, 2019, 9:22 AM

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i just beat the hydra with a lightning dash build, my dash btn was running hot dusa

strong oxide Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 AM

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quick question from a relative newbie; what unlocks the relationship hearts? I know how to fill them with the gifts, but all my NPCs have a bunch of hearts greyed out and locked still

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 AM

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You need to gift the npc's ambrosia

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for gods this can be done before accepting their boon

strong oxide Jan 8, 2019, 9:31 AM

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yeah so I've done that but there's usually 2-4 at the end with a lock symbol

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and I have no further option to gift ambrosia

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Oh my mistake. Im fairly sure those are locked due to early access/missing content.

strong oxide Jan 8, 2019, 9:31 AM

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ah just a beta thing, gotcha! cheers!

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loving the game!

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 9:52 AM

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finished hydra just then with sword and flurry blade + shock dmg on hit and crits

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 9:52 AM

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So i just found the best bug? thing ever. On the challenge boat its possible for bombs to be visually off the boat which just amuses me as the bomb is just floating there

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So i wanted to play a spear crit run. I somehow ended up with a 300 damage cast that dropped in less than 2 seconds and i had 7 shots. How does this happen XD

harsh bay Jan 8, 2019, 10:04 AM

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Oh that’s what I’m doing now lol

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Or trying to do

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Tho I got the Zeus cast

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 10:12 AM

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what are the best casts you guys think?

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:13 AM

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Athena deflect is the best defensive. Poseidon has the most save me utility. Zeus looks the coolest and has the best aoe. Artemis has the best cast for single target (aprhodite may be higher damage if you hit every shot)

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 10:14 AM

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I find Aphrodite very difficult to use effectively

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so short range

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:14 AM

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yeah its not a good cast but for pure damage it may be higher than artemis im not sure

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i dont really like it though

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 10:15 AM

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also pretty weird to melee your cast, no combo flow it feels odd

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but yeah damagewise you are prob right

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:16 AM

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It works ok on the spear since the spear has no knockback so if you mess up you can burst an enemy

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but even then its only ok

glacial cloak Jan 8, 2019, 10:35 AM

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weirdly enough i try to avoid cast boons, i find them lacking against bosses, besides the short spike dmg(jeah I know there are only 2 1/2 atm but still)

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Weeeell Cast boons can be pretty neat if you stack dmg to burst down heads

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:38 AM

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I normally only take cast boons if nothing else the god has suits my build and i have to accept something. That make a decent burst but without a build around them they can only serve as utility

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they make*

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:40 AM

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an epic Poseidon cast boon is really good for pretty much any situation I think. Ares is the hardest to use, sometimes it's useless and sometimes it clears you a room for free

glacial cloak Jan 8, 2019, 10:41 AM

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what is the ares effect on the cast, slipped my mind

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:41 AM

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Id say athena is the best any situation cast, although poseidons has the most utility. Ares is the blade rift

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:41 AM

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ares makes bladewhirlwind

glacial cloak Jan 8, 2019, 10:41 AM

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oh so like the ares dodge

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:41 AM

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yes

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:41 AM

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yep

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:42 AM

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but they move while ares dodge are static

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:42 AM

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are cast either does no damage or pretty much one shots them depending on how mobile they are

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:43 AM

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also, ares cast don't get stuck in monsters which is a plus

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:43 AM

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Its a plus but most of the time if your using your casts enough for that to matter its a cast build in which case you look at artemis or zeus. Still a bonus is a bonus

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:44 AM

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if you are really really lucky and get the ares legendary early, then you clear everything super easy, only had it once tho.

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:45 AM

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Legendary are very very rare to get early. Normally you need to remove all of the basic effects first which takes quite a few boons

glacial cloak Jan 8, 2019, 10:46 AM

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im still amazed that i basiclly killed the hydra with lightning dash, had other boons too and an upgraded sword special but didnt do that much dmg

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:47 AM

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I managed to get the ares legendary in the second or third room of asphodel which is still pretty early for me and I just deleted asphodel, Hydra was still hard as usual but got beaten in the end

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Thats relatively early but i wouldnt consider it early at that point. I would say early is the first area and late is like the room just before the hydra.

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Do anyone take the Poseidon boon which boost your earnings after each room?

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Nah

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 10:54 AM

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If it's early, then usually. Depends on what wep ur using and how bad knockback makes it

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:55 AM

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I've been once or twice really desperate and took the gold from Athena or the gold/health/darkness from poseidon, but usually those runs are dead anyway

glacial cloak Jan 8, 2019, 10:56 AM

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is there btw an easy way to restart the run? or is it the concede btn (but when i click that it says i'll lose my stuff i earned this run, dont know if it includes the purple stuff)

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 10:56 AM

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Poseidon+aphrodite have the weakest selection of boons in the first place honestly

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Pretty unhappy if I see either of them in my runs

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 10:58 AM

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at Wardroida. I don't even know how to abandon a run honestly. Sometimes I get the abandon option and sometimes it's replaced with quit option because it saved my game less than a minute ago..

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Il take poseidons bonus stuff if none of his other options combo well. Id say ares is worse the aphrodite as although she has less damage than athena 50% less damage taken isnt bad..

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 11:00 AM

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its "quit" if you have finished the current chamber, ."give up" if you have not

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:00 AM

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X to doubt. Most unfinished chambers still give me quit

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:00 AM

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I'm not concerned with how much dmg I take honestly. Dps is always my priority

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 11:00 AM

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i simplified

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:00 AM

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the only reliable one for me is the boss fights

glacial cloak Jan 8, 2019, 11:01 AM

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@raven thistle i had to be infight with a mob to get the give up option, once they noticed me it changed from quit

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:01 AM

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And tarcin i would still say ares does less damage than aphrodite because of the proc length takes each time. I see that makes alot of sense

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Ares gives you a large amount of damage overall though. Once you lock urself into an ares run you'll get other high damage boons. Aphros dmg is pathetic without sweet surrender

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Ares has higher raw damage but it doesnt synergise with anything else, nor does it activate every hit. A good ares run will get the proc to lets say 200 damage. With aphrodite its not hard to get every single attack to be doing 200 damage if built decently

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:07 AM

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Ares just needs to be built differently. One of my favorites with ares is to run it on shield with either Zeus charge or his own charge with the "anything can crit" boon from artemis

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You end up with extremely safe and respectable damage

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Whereas an aphrodite run can also do good dmg it's reliant on other Gods to a much larger degree

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:08 AM

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The are's special shield run is good, but only for 2 reasons. The time it takes to get back to you and how low and unsynergistic specials are

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:09 AM

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Nah, I run area attack

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*ares

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Not special

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I think that build is terrible

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:10 AM

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Then its literally a waste. The shield has like 40 base damage. Thats much easier to increase with % than with ares boons. Oh well just a matter of preference i guess

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:13 AM

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Ares boon does a significant amount of damage to begin with and increases by 20 every level. The highest % scaling attack increases by 20% every level. That's a significantly lower scaling. Ares loses out when you're spam hitting, which is why you use the shield charge, and as you hit the enemy/boss you spam your charges out, which makes it do a very respectable amount of damage while being very safe

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Would be wrong to say it's a waste

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:17 AM

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Yes it is indeed lower scaling however its the synergies and the amount of attacks in the same time span that make % damage modifiers stronger. Ares doesnt get 100% backstab or 100% damage from dash nor a consistent boost from crit that a hunter dash would provide. Ares misses out on all of that damage will also only applying ever second or third hit potentially even less. Using a bull rush build it may be the best but since you were going on about dps i was of the thought you would be attacking in which case ares loses out considerably in comparison due to the slower effect and no scaling.

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Yeah, I never said that Ares attack build was as good as the most overtuned mechanic in the game though did I? I said it's a safe build with respectable damage. And that I think area overall is better than aphrodite. You meanwhile came out and said that it's literally a waste. Jeez

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:21 AM

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You claimed are's was better than aphrodite by dismissing the damage reduction effect in favour of damage as you wanted the highest dps. I then pointed out that for pure damage are's is a waste since you claimed "Dps is always my priority" and as such i looked at how aphrodite gives you higher damage and the 50% damage reduction

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If you prioritize dps are's is indeed a waste compared to a % scaling boon. If you are playing a bull rush build you are not focusing dps but rather a secure form of damage

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:28 AM

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I can't be bothered to have this discussion while I'm out on my phone since it takes way too long for me to make my points, but yes Ares attack on its own does not scale very well with the more op mechanics like crit. Unfortunately neither does aphrodite attack because it's incredibly low scaling, and if you get a dmg increasing deadalus the difference is negligible. And yes, I stand by the fact that Ares as a complete package is better than aphrodite as a complete package, to me. As for my build I said that it's respectable damage. Helped by the fact that we're not hitting a practice dummy. We're hitting bosses that don't let you put out your maximum dps, whereas this build consistently puts out something close to it's Max dps even tho it's lower because it's constantly moving from one side of the screen to the other

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Ythi g with Artemis dash and Athena attack beats it out ofc

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Cus that is just op

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*anything

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:40 AM

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Even if you wont continue this i will still reply to voice my arguments and allow for continued discussion at a later point or by others.

Are's suffers from 0 scaling with crit, backstab and dash damage. Aphrodite although not scaling as well as Athena still scales with crit, backstab and dash quite well. If referring to focusing on only that god then that depends purely on what weapon is being used as a spear which attacks fast would likely have higher dps using just aphrodite than ares using just the delay, but for only 1 god are's would likely come out in higher damage more commonly. And while in theory we wont be hitting maximum damage in most fights it isnt needed as a full dps build even only getting 50% damage will far outdo what an are's build can achieve. For spears and bows which can easily hit 8-9 hundred damage with a proper attack are's which if everything goes right will only be doing 300 a proc falls far behind. And again im only referring to the maximum attack purely because you claimed "Dps is always my priority". If you dismiss this claim which appears to be the case as you use bull rush, which is a slow but secure damage method then Aphrodite cant be considered a horrible buff as it allows much more security while also allowing comparable damage to are's under decent conditions. Im not claiming are's build are bad, i've had plenty of fun with them including several wins, however in the normal gameplay are's damage does fall behind most gods, but allows a steadier and slower playstyle.

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 11:47 AM

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I wasn't saying that I won't continue, just that I can't do it right now, and to reiterate; I haven't made any extravagant claims about the build just that it is "safe and respectable damage". I'm happy to go over why this build works fine if we ignore the strongest mechanics in the game later, as well as my reasoning for why I only do it on shield. I just didn't appreciate how dismissive you've been about those very conservative claims lol.

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 11:55 AM

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I have been dismissive of your claims purely because as i have quoted twice now you ignored Aphrodite in favor of Ares for highest dps as Aphrodite gives a lower scaling % but weak. Are's builds should be centered around safe and respectable damage, because he can neither achieve the highest damage (that belongs to crit chance and scaling) nor the safest (weak + bronze skin + Aphrodite damage reduction boon) however he is the king of slow burn builds. I dont doubt Are's gives "safe and respectable damage" but to run an Are's build and claim "Dps is always my priority" is just plain wrong. Any damage % boost will ultimately have more damage than Are"s (other than maybe Poseidon due to knockback) however they are generally not as safe nor will they match up with your playstyle.

lost rose Jan 8, 2019, 11:56 AM

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That's a little aggressive to be about a gameplay build, Secretlemon. We're nice to each other here; please don't attack people over how they prefer to play the game or what they think is good.

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 12:03 PM

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I dont believe that's being aggressive just factual. If referring to the highest dps an are's build cant achieve that due to no scaling. For what he finds fun that is dependent on him and more power to him to run a bull rush build however prioritizing dps and playing how you want to are ultimately different, as one has a clear "correct" build while the other is just about what you enjoy. The only aggressive thing i have mentioned is that are's builds are a waste, and by that i dont imply they should never be done nor are they bad. They are however a waste if looking for pure dps due no scaling. I dont believe anything else i have said can be considered aggressive, however if you could point out other instances i would be perfectly happy to reword incase in came across badly or apologize if it was indeed aggressive

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 12:36 PM

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I will apologize if this was taken as an insult towards your build, as everyone has every right to play how they most enjoy the game. My comments were never directed as an insult towards your build and were instead just based around focusing purely on theoretical max dps.

I will state again Are's builds are fun and you should play however you find the most enjoyment.

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 12:39 PM

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: )

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 12:48 PM

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I do hope that every build will be viable or at least fun when more area are added, right now the game is just too short for some boons to really shine

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I'm at 130 attempts I always manage to get the asphodel, then I almost either lose at the island that moves on the fire river or at the hydra itself

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or I win

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I forgot I sometimes win

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:05 PM

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At around what run did everyone start getting securely past meg and then securely winning

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 2:06 PM

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re: win rate - i started consistently getting past meg at about run 25-ish i think

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:06 PM

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@grave cipher the island on the fire river is pretty nasty. Sometime you lose almost no hp other time you lose pretty much everything

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 2:06 PM

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i'm 7 attempts 4 wins on the hydra

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i'm still baffled that the one and only time i've survived the hellboat, it was with the Idiot Build i had last night

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:07 PM

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the worse the build the better you play

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:07 PM

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I do ok at hell boat, I survive 75 % of the time

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:07 PM

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its confirmed science somewhere im sure

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:07 PM

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it takes a long time though

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:07 PM

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I'd say around 40-50, I didn't change weapon until I won with it, I started with sword first and had a hard time (and an unupgraded mirror)

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:08 PM

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yeah plus the sword was really weaksauce until they buffed it

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 2:08 PM

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Wasn't your idiot build mainly about dashing around wildly? That's actually the best strategy to survive that boat.

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:09 PM

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I won with unupgraded sword, I had the fast attack hammer upgrade, zeus lightning attack and zeus legendary, that was the first time I unlocked a legendary and thought it was broken.

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I'm at 27 runs and never got a legendary stumptCry

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Zeus legendary isnt even super strong (against single target) but its actually the best thing to watch

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I'm finally done with all mirror upgrades. I'm ready for the next patch

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Also I have literally not seen a Zeus boon in my last 8 runs. He's the only keepsake I don't have ><

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:11 PM

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Now sword is pretty good. I'm glad every weapon seems viable now, at first I feared that sword was just a tutorial weapon meant to only be played until you unlocked "better weapons" and then left forever in its weapon rack.

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Every weapon is viable when you get a cast build stumptDealwithit

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:13 PM

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or a dash build, we should get an option for bare handed runs xD

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Every weapon seems viable but i just cant use the bow.
Also to add to the stats i got consistent at meg around 20 and the consistent victories around 30. My only 2 losses since then have been the bow :/

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 2:13 PM

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meanwhile I have 23 wins with the bow and 0 with the rest of the weapons xD

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:13 PM

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charge dash with bow is a bit tricky to hit

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 2:13 PM

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mainly because I don't use them at all

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Bow is easy mode for me, I had the hardest time with sword and shield, I think I just don't like shield gameplay and I play bad because of it, not because the weapon is bad

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:14 PM

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i have atleast 2 wins with every weapon and then like 13 with spear

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The swords biggests problem is it's specials animation. If that was faster sword would be so fun to play

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 2:15 PM

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I'll probably try to get some wins with other weapons now as I don't need to do darkness runs anymore

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Hey buddy, I just got the game, do you recommend me controller or kb+mouse?

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:15 PM

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controller works well for me

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:16 PM

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im keyboard and mouse

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 2:16 PM

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I always use the Dark Thirst weapon so I cycle a lot.

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:16 PM

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all super giant games seem to play well with controller

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:17 PM

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I don't have a controller, can't compare, but it works perfectly well with kb+mouse, not like darksouls (pls don't play. darksouls with kb+mouse)

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Im forcing myself to use the other weapons since i want the lore. Im not to strapped for darkness either as at like 50 run im already only missing the rare boon effect from being maxed

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toggles knows whats up

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use bananas instead

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 2:18 PM

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i'm at about 2.3k darkness or so, so i'm not far off being able to sink all the rest of the darkness i get into rare/epic boons

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:19 PM

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Thank you, well, I still dunno what to use LOL

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:20 PM

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If you have a mouse with an extra button id assign the special to that a give it a go but ultimately its better to just try them each and see which you prefer

spice socket Jan 8, 2019, 2:22 PM

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Basically movement control is awesome on controller but aiming is just relying on auto aim since aiming with sticks is a hassle

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While I suppose it's the contrary with mouse+keyboard

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:23 PM

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That's my concern actually, I know I will aim better with mouse, and I know I'll move better with controller

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Really i find movement quite easy on keyboard and mouse, although i havent tried it on controller, but all the same its not bad on keyboard

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:24 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/H6UY3ip.png

Imgur

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Decisions decisions, I'm legit too lazy to test both

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:26 PM

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huh controller must be super nice then. Atleast they didnt pull a dark souls on keyboard support.
Also recommendation. 100 starting gold is really nice but expensive to get

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Dark souls on keyboard is just impossible, even with banana it would be easier

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LOL

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I'm sure someone has completed darksouls with a banana by now

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Well, true that

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:28 PM

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they have

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:28 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/aJoEliI.png

Imgur

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Well, it really need tweaks tho

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I think

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:29 PM

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if you search dark souls played on the first recommendation is bananas XD

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:29 PM

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We do not need the right stick?

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Wow, I would have to watch that someday haha

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:31 PM

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X D

mild cloak Jan 8, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Okies, two seconds on the tutorial, I'm in love with controller and the game in itself

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I swear supergiant games are the best

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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We do not need the right stick? i mean i use the right stick to, uh, Move, so idk

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:32 PM

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moving is optional just dash everywhere XD

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Also can we just make it illegal for the survive rooms to spawn numbskull spawners. With the shield enemys. Can this just be banned like some rooms end up with more heads than free real estate

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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yeah that is super tricky to deal with

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but I think in general the survive rooms could be a bit more interesting, just dashing is the easiest way to deal with them but feels very cheesy

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I played Dark Souls 3 on keyboard with no issue, no idea what you're talking about. That was before I got a controller though.

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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its also weird bc of room layout Asphodel is way easier

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Im going into final boss with 69 health (not a joke) and no revives. Im a basic attack build with no attack empowerer with me luck

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Survive rooms in Asphodel are way more spacious, they're great.

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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good luck

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!

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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True but they take longer and every time i go into them atleast 4 skull spawners are spawned with some mages

dapper heart Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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That is why you just keep running.

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Darksouls 3 is manageable with keyboard and mouse tough unwieldy, I mean the tutorial don't even have the keyboard notation you have to go into the settings each time to see which controller key correspond to which keyboard key. Original Darksouls on steam was unplayable on keyboard and mouse unless you modded it.

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Just failed the boss :(
First loss with a spear in a long time

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Running is the general stratergy it just feels overloaded sometimes. Sometimes all you get are 1 enemy type so you can just run but other times it gives a bit of everything which makes it much harder to deal with

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I like to attack them sometimes to get some more gold, it can be risky but it's more fun too.

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 2:42 PM

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the most fun is when the voidstones start spawning in

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good luck i'm behind 7 skullomats

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:43 PM

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depends on what enemys spawn and how much damage you can do. If you can kill a few it becomes much more manageable

obtuse merlin Jan 8, 2019, 2:43 PM

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@grave cipher it feels like the survive room should encourage mixing running and attacking as I feel that is the most fun and dynamic

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on a good run you keep the enemy count close to zero during a survive rooms, I have done that a few times with fast bow for instance

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Nah the worst survival rooms are several numbskull spawners, 2-3 of those armoured mage guys that fire like 15 shots each time, some regular skellys, a couple of bomb throwers, 1-2 of those laser shooting guys and a voidstone or two for good measure

grave cipher Jan 8, 2019, 2:44 PM

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I just hate bloodless in survive room or on the fire river, their tracking on their attack can be rough, some time I dodge 3 of those attacks, then get hit once, stunned for a bit and I eat a lot of damages.

tulip timber Jan 8, 2019, 2:53 PM

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I'd say my least favorite thing to deal with is the elite witches and the elite voidstones sitting in the middle of a lava pond in the center of a room.

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 2:54 PM

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You have yet the throw a athena cast at the elite witchs then. That is an amazing sight

raw sonnet Jan 8, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Can you get enough dashes to dash from the edge of the first lava lake... to an off shore sekert?

tulip timber Jan 8, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Oh, that is definitely fun. Or charge dashing spear into a big wad of witch casts and knock them all back with the spin.

raven thistle Jan 8, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Inx that idea sounds so dumb and crazy that we need every player around to try it.
On a realistic note though even if you could travel like that invisible walls would stop you

raw sonnet Jan 8, 2019, 3:02 PM

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I did not yet try it, as I had feared for invisible walls and there not actually being a secret for those with the will of fire!

tulip timber Jan 8, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I've gone pretty far a couple times when I lost track of where I was and what directly I was facing.

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There's not really anything out there.

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And there are invisible walls, because I've YEETed flying things with Poseidon wall slam stun and had to wait around for them to recover from a concussion and float back.

raw sonnet Jan 8, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Only been to the land of flames once

tender zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Curious, but is it possible to reach maximum defense? Just had a shield run beat the Hydra for the first time which was incredibly tanky with the Shield's 20% defense up, Aphrodite's 20% defense up, and Apply Weakness on Hit. I was taking 3 damage during the Hydra fight, and it made me curious how far you could go.

With Athena's defense blessing, it's possible to get another 20% up, and Achille's Keepsake grants another 20% for facetanking. That's 80% damage reduction, and Aphrodite's Weakness is an Attack Down though I don't know the numbers on it. With all those buffs, a person could basically face-roll everything.

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I just want to see that sweet, sweet 0 damage on my screen

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I'd imagine they wouldn't make damage reduction effects additive

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most of it should be coming from weak giving that juicy -50%

tender zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Wait, so Weakness if 50%.

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Damn

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And how could damage reduction stack if not by being additive?

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Usually if you get two 20% reductions, it doesn’t add up to 40%

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It’s 20% + 20% of the remaining 80%

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36% in total

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Which I assume is calculated after the 50% damage cut from weakness

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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that sounds like how it should probably work

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Right, damage reduction is multiplicative, damage increase additive

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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haven't tested to confirm tho

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that sounds about right

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 4:43 PM

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question: does anybody know if having ocean's bounty from poseidon would block out getting urge to kill from ares?

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they're both passive effects but i'm still hazy on whether you can get multiple of those

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 4:43 PM

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You can get both Athenas and Aphrodites damage reduction, and those are passive

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So I imagine it does not

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 4:44 PM

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mm. i'm going with a heavy zeus spear run - zeus attack + dash, and some poseidon stuff just because it gave them to me

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ares just came up in a shop and urge to kill is really the only useful thing i could get out of him

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

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What are the other 2?

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

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or i could save my gold and see if charon will give me a pom or something in asphodel

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oh

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ambrosia and darkness

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i'm at a little over 200 so i can't get the darkness and still afford the boon, unfortunately

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Id save it I guess

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 4:46 PM

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....wait no i misread i totally could get the darkness

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i'm at 283

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Urge to kill on spear if youre going for the regular attack is hella weak

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Especially since it doesnt amplify Zeus

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 4:46 PM

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true

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i'm gonna grab the darkness and just leave ares i think

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hello darkness my old friend

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still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 4:58 PM

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nooooo

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rip

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 4:58 PM

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hallelujah

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i went and broke some stuff and i'm juuust at enough

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 4:58 PM

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niiice

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 4:58 PM

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of course the difficult choice is: there's a shop in the next room

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do i want the wall scroll or do i want delicious items

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(frankly i already Have achilles' scroll so i'm not too fussed about getting aphrodite's asap)

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 4:59 PM

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I always regret if I don't get the perm upgrade

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(it's not an upgrade but you know what I'm sayin)

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if it's there to be unlocked, it'll always be on my head

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but to each their own!

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 5:00 PM

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i'm reeeeally liking this run's chances with the hydra......

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i think i'll keep my gold for the shop

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another time, aphrodite!

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 5:00 PM

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good choice!

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you always got chthonic purse if you really want it that badly anyway

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 5:06 PM

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had it down to the third head phase

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 5:07 PM

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that one's a real doozy

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you'll get them next time!

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Hm does anyone know why brimstones proc vengeance if you block it with shield?

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Looks like a bug

stark citrus Jan 8, 2019, 5:23 PM

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goodluck sparrow!

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just picked up poseiden's legendary boon with the bow, i am untouchable!

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goodbye mobs! get away!

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I think all shield blocks proc revenge boons

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Witches dont >_>

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 5:37 PM

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god, i hate bloodless so, so, SO much

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i lost all my death defies in a single room

gaunt basalt Jan 8, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Stygius Nova smash build so op they would nerf next patch

stark citrus Jan 8, 2019, 6:04 PM

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lol. yeah. they are tough. they'll get easier to manage eventually. i need 15 more hydra kills to finish up my codex

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 6:04 PM

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaughfhbjgfbdjhbgdjkhbgd

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alas i can no longer say i've won every time i got to the hydra with the bow

grand patrol Jan 8, 2019, 6:05 PM

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u ok sparrow?
OH NOOO

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 6:05 PM

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i really, really, REALLY hate bloodless

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REALLY

grand patrol Jan 8, 2019, 6:05 PM

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UGHHH

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 6:05 PM

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i had the perfect run, too, got my tempest strike and artemis dash and everything

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 6:06 PM

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it's disheartening to realise the only reason i lost the hydra fight is because those stupid idiot skeletons with their instant, turn-on-a-dime dashes decided to chew me up

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Survival is a tenuous proposition in this sprawling tomb.

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 6:12 PM

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also it's not overconfidence if i know i'm capable of the thing

severe orchid Jan 8, 2019, 6:13 PM

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I thought we were doing darkest dungeon quotes

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feelsbadman

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 6:22 PM

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@stark citrus And in next patch they'll add another codex part after 500 Hydra kills stumptEvil

stark citrus Jan 8, 2019, 6:26 PM

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hahaha. oh yeah. i shall slay me 1000 hydras!

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1 more week until next update?

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oh yeah

still pewter Jan 8, 2019, 6:32 PM

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heeeell yeah

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can't wait

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Dang it, failed at the Hydra this time. Got only Artemis and Poseidon this run, and with Poseidon, I got to the point where the boons were only about loot instead of combat. Had a great Cast, but didn't get the "fall out of enemies faster" from Artemis, so I couldn't deal enough damage. That was butts.

naive acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:18 PM

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Is there, somewhere a guide for what boons to take or better combinations ? 🤔

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 8:19 PM

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not really. it depends on your playstyle and weapon you are using

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but artemis' dash is always a good choice

naive acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:19 PM

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alright, thanks

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:21 PM

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take attack-focused boons, they good

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 8:34 PM

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damn it, I'm checking different keepsakes(so far I've only been using the guaranteed boon ones) and I did a whole run using charon's keepsake. During that whole run I haven't got anything valuable in the shop.

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i mean, the best you can get is 100% chance for infernal treasure. That last for 5 rooms so it easily gives 400+ obols

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:36 PM

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you can also get 60% cast dmg

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which is crazy good

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Then shops stop having an empty slot because there was a furniture but not anymore... I will return to that keepsake

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 8:37 PM

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i rarely use casts unless i get the zeus one. Poseidon is decent too

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 8:39 PM

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feel like people generally underuse/undervalue cast

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even without upgrade, it's 50 dmg for free from safety

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 8:40 PM

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mate, the only weapon i use is bow. I have enough damage from safe distance 😛

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Ehm... Sounds, like bow propaganda but ok

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 8:45 PM

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eh, looking at the keepsakes once again and i fell only the ones from gods are actually worth using. If you choose artemis you get pretty much 100% chance to get her dash and the game is trying to give you more boons from the gods you have already "allied" with so even better chance to get valuable boons like increased crit damage or huge bonus for crits vs armor

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 8:46 PM

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I still stick to Dusa keepsake

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I like breaking pots

shadow oak Jan 8, 2019, 8:46 PM

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I stick to dusa keepsake because she's best girl and I dont wanna betray her trust

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 8:47 PM

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speaking of pots i have only recently noticed that there are different looking pots that drop gold when you break them 😛

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 8:47 PM

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If you break all pots, you’ll always get the gold~~

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 9:00 PM

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keep trying buddy

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Skull earring is pretty great too

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I’m not used to being kid friendly please help

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:01 PM

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F

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Did that help?

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:02 PM

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Thank.

woeful stirrup Jan 8, 2019, 9:08 PM

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I'd stick to Dusa but in a full run of breaking pots I've only gotten one healing item. For me 2% is 0%.

woven cradle Jan 8, 2019, 9:09 PM

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b

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 9:19 PM

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I generally get pretty solid amounts of healing with it

wispy moon Jan 8, 2019, 9:20 PM

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Cannot beat Meg. Help, please

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Also, I hear bow is strong, but I suck with it

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@glossy slate Where do you get skull earring?

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Give Ambrosia to Meg

wispy moon Jan 8, 2019, 9:28 PM

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@worn dawn You should play Zelda

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:29 PM

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She shows up in the lounge after you beat her

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 9:29 PM

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I probably should

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:29 PM

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140% damage when below 40% hp

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 9:29 PM

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And I find it easiest to beat Meg with sword + Athena attack, personally

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Make sure you max out dashes, that makes the fight way easier

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Backstab damage too

steady gorge Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Bow + triple shot from hammer + dash from artemis + attack boon from Athena = easy mode

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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She’s open to several hits after every dash

wispy moon Jan 8, 2019, 9:32 PM

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@worn dawn Favorite dash? I'm kinda liking Posiden right now

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 9:33 PM

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I like Athena dash

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Artemis is love

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Artemis is life

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 9:33 PM

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It feels weird and takes getting used to

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But the safety is ridic

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Most of my hydra wins have been using Athena dash

wispy moon Jan 8, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Athena dash is the deflect, right?

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Yep

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Yup!

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Gives a bit of delay, so it can be hard to use at first

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But I do love it

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Nice to have an easy panic button

dusky fulcrum Jan 8, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Artemis dash too good, combo with aphro

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Am I a madman for disliking all options for dashes?

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Yes.

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But we’re all mad here

dusky fulcrum Jan 8, 2019, 9:37 PM

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like its never bad to have a dash boon

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Yes, but i found the fact that your defensive option does something you wasting by just not doing it right very distracting.

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Oh no you have a crit-dash! The damage bro, dash! eats a bomd/hydra/brimstone

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Objectively Artemis is the best Dash because you’ll be Dash attacking anyways to maximize damage, and crit doubles the effectiveness of attack boons

dusky fulcrum Jan 8, 2019, 9:41 PM

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and dashing into most things currently just destroys them

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Not necessarily the most fun, mind you

dusky fulcrum Jan 8, 2019, 9:42 PM

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yeah, depending on how you wanna play

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:42 PM

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But the highest damage potential by far, for minimal investment

wispy moon Jan 8, 2019, 9:43 PM

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@frosty pier Dash is my favorite. How could you not like it?

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:44 PM

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I dont like any addons on dash, keeping it simple, keeping it clean. Dunno it's my OCD

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Don't listen to a madman who even turned off music just to hear enemies clearly

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:46 PM

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HERESY

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Yup, but no longer i suffer from skeletons... as much as I did suffer anyway

strong hornet Jan 8, 2019, 9:51 PM

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oh the game just ends after area nr.2 good to know i guess. Here i was whats the 3rd area like oh okay

dusky fulcrum Jan 8, 2019, 9:52 PM

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next update is soon sooo

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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I want to keep expectations a bit lower that that.

tulip timber Jan 8, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Patch Notes:

Dusa rises slower into the air when she runs away from you.

/end

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Tune in next month for more patches.

dusky fulcrum Jan 8, 2019, 9:56 PM

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best

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Soooo greatly improved aerodynamics of the best girl? Counts for me as a major update

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Where’s my “Hug Dusa” button, Supergiant?

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Pat the Snake Lady, Zag! Just do it!

wispy moon Jan 8, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Am I the only one annoyed by Dusa?

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 10:05 PM

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Probably not

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but most people here adore her

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dusa

wispy moon Jan 8, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I don't hate her, but she's not endearing to me like to most others it seems

manic goblet Jan 8, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Tastes do tend to differ

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 10:42 PM

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She stimulates my urge to protect and my need to cuddle

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And she looks really huggable

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 10:44 PM

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She is kind of stony though

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 10:44 PM

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She’s just so enthusiastic I love her

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 10:46 PM

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She’s a head above the rest

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 10:47 PM

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But yeah, Im not a big fan of Dusa either

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She is too cheery

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Also her fixation with Zag is, I guess, mildly uncomfortable?

stray radish Jan 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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she's slightly too high pitched for my liking

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senpai is finally noticing her

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cant blame her xD

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 10:48 PM

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She has a crush on him and she’s super shy, that’s not really a fixation

worn dawn Jan 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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And of course her voice is high pitched, she’s full of helium

glossy slate Jan 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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She got no diaphragm

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I mean, there is having a crush, and there is Dusa

stray radish Jan 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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well im full of hellno

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xD

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I much prefer Meg

fleet jackal Jan 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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I still can't beat Meg, so I'm not really a fan at the moment... -_-

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Just dont take damage

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Its easy

fleet jackal Jan 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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You know what, you're right.

stray radish Jan 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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do you have dash mirror upgrades?

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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unovven, be nice ;P

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meg's tough until you learn her attacks better and fill out the mirror some

fleet jackal Jan 8, 2019, 10:53 PM

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I only have 2 dashes at the moment. I haven't been playing for super long, so I'll get it eventually.

stray radish Jan 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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2 dashes is already great progress

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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NO.

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/I came SO CLOSE/

stray radish Jan 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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you'll defeat her eventually

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 10:54 PM

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i wanna cry

fleet jackal Jan 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Is it? It's one of the first things I got.

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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she was at like

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an eighth of health

stray radish Jan 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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dashes help a lot in Meg's fight

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F

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 10:55 PM

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i tried

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but that last bit is

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she throws evvvvverything at you

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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dashes, death defies, and healing between chambers are probably the three most important to get first

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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i went in with almost all health

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3 full death defies

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and hunter's dash

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 10:56 PM

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What weapon did you use?

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 10:57 PM

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bow

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oh and triple shot

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Welp I cant give advices for a bow but either side step her dashes for a backstabs or cheese it with casts

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 10:59 PM

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yeah i almost had it, it was just some bad luck i think

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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I mean I was being completely serious

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Though I shouldve elaborated

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But yeah, learn her pattern

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She gives you plenty of space on each attack to both avoid it and hit her

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Except maybe bullet hell, on that one you just get out of range and wait

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Unlike Hydra, its totally feasible to finish Meg while taking no damage

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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Or spear sheese bullets

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:02 PM

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it wasn't as much trouble with her as it was the enemies she was spawning

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in fact i was doing so much damage i don' think i ever saw her bullet hell

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Well It's all about how many circles you ran around the room)

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Oh bullet hell isnt related to damage

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She just sometimes doesnt do that attack, and sometimes does

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As for enemies, trick there is to lure Meg away from the enemies

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You determine her initial path

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Sidestep, then dash in the direction you want her to go next before getting some hits in

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Actually, her whip attack might be hard without multiple dashes?

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:09 PM

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2 dashes point blank

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all that you need

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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i have three

hard holly Jan 8, 2019, 11:10 PM

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Three should make all attacks manageable

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Its probably the luring thing you need to do more

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:12 PM

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i stood no chance that time lol

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no death defies and half health

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98 attempts so far.

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Keep at it, getting gud will eventually come for you... And then you'll have a second zone bouldy

worldly sage Jan 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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are you supposed to be able to double attack after dashing with the chaos shield?

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cause if you dash and attack it does the animation and damage twice and faster than standard

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:24 PM

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I think so, atleast it was thru all patches that I've seen

worldly sage Jan 8, 2019, 11:30 PM

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also is there anyway to see what boons you can get before doing trial of the gods?

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:32 PM

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You can only see the gods

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:32 PM

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-cracks knuckles-

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here we go again

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:33 PM

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You can do it!

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:33 PM

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100 health, all death defies, three dashes, triple shot, aphrodite flourish, athena cast

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oh actually, extra death defy, too

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Looking good

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:41 PM

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nooooooooop

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e

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ok that was painful

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i get too tesne

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tense

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:43 PM

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Oooohhh Yeah that's the real problem. Tension just gets you more than game actually trying.

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:45 PM

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-closes hades down for the night-

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anxiety is... one of those things

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i could feel it in my teeth it getting to me

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:47 PM

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I eventually saw here a guy who literally pauses game on bosses to calm down. Worked for me.

pastel jolt Jan 8, 2019, 11:47 PM

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i do that!

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in fact i mentioned it in here a couple days ago so maybe it's me you're remembering :V

frosty pier Jan 8, 2019, 11:50 PM

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Quite likely so. That tip worked wonders.

rigid trout Jan 8, 2019, 11:54 PM

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i tried that a couple of times

frosty pier Jan 9, 2019, 12:01 AM

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http://prntscr.com/m4ofom

Lightshot

Screenshot

Captured with Lightshot

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I know that's a minor thing but this tiny vase just cracked me up xD

rough condor Jan 9, 2019, 12:03 AM

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I think the smallest ones are in Charons shop

glossy slate Jan 9, 2019, 12:03 AM

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My favorite is when you get the one that’s like 3 pixels tall in a sea of regular sized vases

rough condor Jan 9, 2019, 12:04 AM

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BTW can you get more than 5 gold vases in the room after meg? 5 was my highest for now and I did some runs pupperR

glossy slate Jan 9, 2019, 12:05 AM

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Never seen more than 5

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I have a theory that the number of vases you get is based on the time it takes you to reach the hallway, but I have no evidence

forest marsh Jan 9, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I almost always see 3... I don't think I've ever seen more than 3, in fact volfredthink

rough condor Jan 9, 2019, 12:12 AM

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I have 4 most of the time and 5 sometimes. 3 relatively rare

lethal dune Jan 9, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Anyone know when the next patch is live?

errant narwhal Jan 9, 2019, 12:15 AM

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The 15th

lethal dune Jan 9, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Cool beans, thanks alma, been watching my fav streamers play but haven't gotten the game myself.

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^_^

viscid ice Jan 9, 2019, 12:42 AM

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What are the benefits to ambrosia after the initial gift?

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I.e. why should i spent a lot of ambrosia on a single person

frosty pier Jan 9, 2019, 12:43 AM

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some additional dialogs