Haha it sounds like it’d be amazing, maybe hades 2?
#h1-discussion
steady stone
wicked aspen
Basiclly, you know iceborne?
steady stone
It sounds huge for a dlc 😛
wicked aspen
It was gonna be like that
brisk trail
was MHW: Iceborne that big?
wicked aspen
Where, the DLC is a separate part of the game, so they don't need to balance and rebalance all the boons of the gods
Iceborne was massive
It was basiclly mhw 2
brisk trail
ah okay
wicked aspen
But, my idea, was like iceborne instead of doing s bunch of little updates and post launch dlc, just work on one big one a year or two down the line
steady stone
One thing I disliked about MHW was all the unskippable cutscenes and story
wicked aspen
I loved those... partly cuz i suck at the combat
steady stone
Hades has that but it’s actually interesting
wicked aspen
Then again, I am an insect glaive main, soooo
brisk trail
Yeah I didn't like the unskippable scenes either
or the scenes you "have to do" before calling SOS
spiral cargo
Why are there so many french hades streamers
brisk trail
cause the game took off in france I guess?
steady stone
It’s ok IMO if the story is a centrepiece like Hades, but the only reason they’re unskippable in MHW is cause the producer has a massive ego
steady stone
He literally said “we put too much effort into the story so you can’t skip it” mind you, no one plays it for the story
stuck sundial
why do infernal troves, poseidon's boon and sysifus sometimes give nectar or diamonds
brisk trail
oh well nvm then XD
brisk trail
Yeah I'm wondering the same thing
wicked aspen
I know posdeidons boon has like a 0.00013 percent chance to drop the rare stuff, like titan blood, ambrosia, but sys giving necter
queen wharf
Hey if you wear the Myrmidon Bracer and talk to ||Patroclus|| is there special dialogue? I tried but I think it was an active quest and wouldn't have shown.
wicked aspen
Uh yes I believe so
queen wharf
That's what I expected lol
wicked aspen
I left it on while leveling up my keepsakes, and he mentioned it
queen wharf
Gotcha, thanks
wicked aspen
Also, same for Orpheus and and his keepsake aswell
queen wharf
As expected
wicked aspen
If ya have distant memory on and get the npc on asphodel
queen wharf
I mean it's basically Persona
But it's not from Japan so it's not actually an Anime game
brisk trail
Euridyce hasn't commented on Distant Memory for me yet
I actually just got my relationship up to the point Orpheus told me she was his wife XD
stuck sundial
what are your favourite calls
brisk trail
?
queen wharf
I like Poseidon because I'm stupid
stuck sundial
they are called calls but all of them have "aid" in their name
aphodite deals 2500 damage on a full charge
brisk trail
Can't Artemis do more on a crit?
brisk trail
lol
wicked aspen
I do wonder
If you have the boon that gives all a damage a chance to be crit
Does that work on calls aswell?
Can we crit on a fully charged Aphrodite call?
And just Insta gib anything?
steady stone
Btw, no one answered my question before lol has there been any update of Hades on iOS/Android?
stuck sundial
artemis deals 1700 average on her call
steady stone
All good, it’s cause I’m buying transistor on iOS would love to have hades on here too lol
brisk trail
I also just started paying attention here really
queen wharf
Btw, no one answered my question before lol has there been any update of Hades on iOS/Android?
@steady stone As of right now, Hades isn't planned to be on any other systems. I expect it to go to PS4/5 or Xbox, but iOS is questionable
steady stone
Oh cool
wicked aspen
Is there a release date on the most recent update getting one switch?
dry mauve
they're targeting end of this month I think
its going to be bundled with the next patch
which is going to be cross saves
steady stone
One step further, considering how well Transistor and Bastion sold on mobile, it’d be awesome to see hades and even pyre on here
Mobile needs more actual ethical monetisation
Pay once play forever
stuck sundial
artemis is on average 10x100(3x0.35+1x0.65) = 1700, but if they all crit then 3000, aphrodite (2500) is better unless you have othe bonuses, like a marked enemy or higher rarity or level
also don't miss
wicked aspen
Thank you, holy boon calculator of the discord
stuck sundial
that has killed me in the past when aphrodite hit a vase instead of hades
wicked aspen
Praise be
brisk trail
lol
wicked aspen
For real, I don't do that min max stuff
I just go with whatever I feel like
... Which is usually more gemstones and DARKENSS boons
queen wharf
DARKNESS
wicked aspen
Naw man, it's the aspect of you believing in yourself thats op
brisk trail
^
gusty slate
I just roll with aspect of luck
brisk trail
Support Fire boon makes ANY quick attacking build nutty
wicked aspen
At rank 5, your taking out half the room
tepid plover
Can we PLEASE get a bouldy theme?
abstract jackal
Ooh I need to get the secret weapons
wicked aspen
Let us be patient
For all they've done in the game, the devs at super giant deserve a good long rest for a job well done
... atleast until I send them my DLC ideas
Jk
I'm not self confident enough to do that
Cuz im afraid they kinda suck
Maybe
I've only shown one other person
And they've skimmed it and said it was ok
brisk trail
want me to look at it?
wicked aspen
If ya want
Gimme a mo
Bit long huh?
Alright, rawr says he likes it
+.05 confidence for me
That leaves me with....
1 confidance
brisk trail
lol
wicked aspen
Also, if anyone at super giant actually wants to read my 2 and half page long idea bucket....
- Why odds are you have better things to do
And 2. Just @ me and I'll send em to you
I can't wait to get my self worth and self confidence crushed by reality
.... well more so the usual atleast
brisk trail
oh stop beating yourself up
wicked aspen
No, it's fun
gusty slate
Never know, could inspire something else
wicked aspen
And it's my only defining charecter trait
Maybe
Probs wont
But, there's always hoping
gusty slate
but I don't think SGG visits this channel often
brisk trail
later!
brazen stone
gusty slate
Happens 
torn pawn
Did we get a window for ps4 and other consoles yet
quaint hatch
I thin it's only pc and switch
acoustic lava
and Mac.
abstract jackal
important question
do chaos gates keep the next rooms' drops
i have a nectar up next and dont want it to reroll
quaint hatch
They change
abstract jackal
booooo
quaint hatch
Counts as another chamber
abstract jackal
fair
quaint hatch
No good
abstract jackal
ty for answering
quaint hatch
Np
abstract jackal
gonna go for the sippy so i can get w thanatos
tepid plover
Is the same chance
tepid plover
What makes it rare is the fact that you don't get a chaos in every room
Actually nvm
Is 7%
Actually lower
raven lava
only way i can think of to force it would be to get a well and a chaos gate in the same room
can that happen?
shut wolf
i want to farm some darkness any tips on that?
raven lava
pick the weapon with dark thirst and don't put on any heat
quaint hatch
More darkness worth from chaos and poseidon boons
gleaming sparrow
Yeah just do that a bunch
quaint hatch
Maybe put forced overtime 1 on so survival rooms won't appear
raven lava
wouldn't it be tight deadline that locks out survival rooms?
tepid plover
Chaos, poseidon and sisyphus are your farming mates
shut wolf
i always do play with fo1 td2 em2
shut wolf
allright
raven lava
yeah
raven lava
td1, em2 if the faster hydra is that much of a big deal to you
(and if you've cleared enough bounties to still be on darkness with that combo)
but the important stuff is darker thirst weapon, poseidon/chaos stuff, td1
raven lava
if you do the math i think ||director needs something like 340k darkness, not including other materials||
that's if you want to max it
shut wolf
yeah i heard that. its a really long way to me.. i am at ||80k total||
i actually want to do sub10 runs but my best clear times are between 12 and 14 IGT
tepid plover
My best is 19 
Tbf I have zero interest in beating it
I dont even know how I got that
shut wolf
fo1 makes them spawn faster and hydra is faster with em2 and i think i got used to some aspects which i always do sub 15runs IGT
tepid plover
Yeah ||heat 9|| is the meta for speedrunning
analog wren
Just a small recommendation let me romance bouldy
quaint hatch
hollow lagoon
||whats the scarriest legendary/duo boon for you guys mine is tracking blades||
wheat kayak
Splitting Bolt is nuts
hollow lagoon
hunting blades is great
wheat kayak
Zeus says 'Yeah here my nephew just have more damage on top of your Zeus build'
hollow lagoon
i killed
wheat kayak
He showed me the true power of thunder and lightning once and now I know who I should be a disciple of
hollow lagoon
||lernie with dashes with spliting bolt and his dash no attack cast or special||
wicked aspen
Ok, ||I just got a bone hydra, whose every phase, was just fire spitters||
Like.... Every head
solemn nest
Is there any trigger for getting fish in chaos? I'm on my 110th run and I've only gotten one ever.
flat vapor
be extremely lucky
solemn nest
aha, I see
on a similar note for ||"very rare" fish (the ones you need to catch for the Poseidon prophecy) is that also just luck?||
flat vapor
both luck and reaction time
solemn nest
oh, huh
flat vapor
perfect catches (press within .32 seconds) have a 5% at legendary fish or guaranteed rare fish, regular catches have a 5% at a rare fish or guaranteed common fish
solemn nest
ok, thanks!
tough silo
Finally beat hades with all the weapons, only took like 50 runs
quiet gull
You mean like.... all aspects?
delicate pilot
i mean some people take 100 runs to beat hades once
willow elbow
does anyone know where I can thank the devs for game accessibility for disabilities? I can't catch the AMAs here because I live on the other side of the world, so they're conducted at unreasonable times for me
delicate pilot
well i mean if the roles are to be believed the devs are in this server
so I suppose they might just read your message
willow elbow
lots of messages though xP I wanna make sure they see it
willow elbow
gotcha!!
I just really wanna thank them for gameplay accessibility - I've got adhd and audio processing problems so I genuinely appreciate that they've got different volume sliders and readable subtitles for all the dialog
and idk how they did it but all their games so far have been tuned in a way that my bestie can play it too (she's got chronic pain so she can't move/react super fast)
it is Much Appreciated, many thank yous
steady stone
@willow elbow I’ve got a similar disability actually
I can’t play with sound due to phonophobia which is fear of loud noise
I’m so happy it’s perfectly accessible for you.
haven’t played yet but I’m sure Supergiant did an amazing job on accessibility for hard of hearing
wicked aspen
I always respect accessibility in games
Like, the last of us 2, for all its many faults in its story, does have incredible accessibility options
steady stone
Yeah, unlike most competitive shooters
No sound = massive disadvantage, and autoban if you use software to help you play like Sonic Radar
I’m so sick of the fact I can’t play Valorant cause the devs are incompetent in accessibility
wicked aspen
Know what i originally thought the 4th aspects were?
I thought they were Easter eggs from previous super giant games
Like, 4th aspect of sword was gonna be the transistor or something
steady stone
Ooooh that would’ve been cool
long sinew
Hi guys! I'd just like to share this tiny bit of life info: I recently started working as an Interpreter, and I got my first paycheck. So, to celebrate, I decided to buy Hades on Switch, and I am so happy to say that I am enjoying it so much, you guys are so talented, and your game is AMAZING! I can't wait to see what you do with it further down the line. Only thing I hate are the spike traps 😆 but I'll just git gud. If there's one thing I could ask for, is to improve the stability on the Switch version, to have a more consistent framerate, but I know game development is tough, so do what you feel needs to be done at your own pace! Thanks again! 💯
long sinew
Yes, my Lord Dionysus.
tepid plover
now go try to escape
long sinew
Aye, mate.
lone gale
@steady stone What does Sonic Radar do? Give you a visual directionality ping like stereo sound normally would?
There is a certain point where ... GUI changes become equivalent to cheating... scripting and macroing as well
carmine ravine
what radar
inland furnace
does a blown kiss even exist.... it's the last normal boon i need for the fates and after getting crush shot multiple times for it it hasn't shown up lmao
inland furnace
aphrodite: have this duo boon!!!
me:... uuuh please i just want the fates (re-rolls)
aphrodite: duo boon again :3
carmine ravine
use fated persuasion as much as possible with her keepsake
and farm it by dying in tartarus if u going desperate
inland furnace
after a few runs having to actually Utilize this cast i have learned to live with it lmao
tepid plover
i hate crush shot
gusty slate
Crush shot takes some...getting used to
carmine ravine
i personally like dio/dem cast
surreal solar
aliens rock made a hades vid Pog
vernal obsidian
Well hydra is 4 calls I think
cursive solar
hey is there something like a .1% chance for zag to do the terminator thumbs up during the Taken By The Styx animation
cus like its setup
and all im sayin is if there isnt there should be
nocturne reef
hah
raw flare
I'll raise my cup to that 🥂
crude sorrel
the game is perfect for me, I play pvp games with queue times and you can so easily play some hades in the mean time ❤️
subtle cobalt
What is the number of the latest patch?
vapid narwhal
fair basin
I’ve met Thanatos once in 24 runs and all I can think is I can’t let myself win this game having only one encounter with Than 
solar steeple
Is anyone else having issues getting Hades' keepsake on Switch? I have the heart unlocked in the codex for about 30 runs now, but I'm never given the option to gift a nectar/ambrosia
bright lance
Have you gotten the ending yet? It takes a few runs after that before it can work
I'm on Switch too and I was able to get it
remote forge
It feels so quaint
But a week ago I could barley beat Theseus
I'm still a scrub though 
Winning most of my runs now though so that's nice
bright lance
Progress in this game is really fun but sometimes you never notice it
||I was playing on consistently higher heat (adding 1 each time) and finally tried a 0 heat after going up to 12, and I was so surprised at how easy it was after getting better at the game!||
fair basin
If you finish (escape) the game, do all of your house renovation upgrades/purchases reset?
vapid narwhal
everything you do in the house is permanent
vapid narwhal
you only lose boons and gold gained in your run upon run completion or death
fair basin
so even if you escape and win the game, if you go back and turn up the heat, the renovations are still there?
vapid narwhal
they are permanent
fair basin
sweet
vapid narwhal
everything in the house is
fair basin
ty ty
robust sundial
thank Hadès they're permanent, imagine trying to scrap those 33k gemstones in one single run 
fair basin
that was my concern Kerenn 
(tho if by “run” you just mean single escape attempt then whereas I refer to a run as the x many attempts to escape before I do 
)
I’m assuming then that your heart gauges with everyone are also permanent even after beating the game? 👀
sterile token
So are there any new major content patches planned? post release I mean
I'd love some new gods, boons, weapons or enemies! Hell even new characters/lore would be amazing
brisk trail
Right now their plan is just bug fixing and balancing
sterile token
Understandable! Though who knows, maybe down the line we get some DLC?
brisk trail
Perhaps, they didn't make any for their previous titles. Though those were not really fit for adding DLCs
nocturne reef
You never really beat the game
Thats the point of a rogue like
Its basically infinity playable and when you "win" there's definitely still plenty to do
nocturne reef
Yeah its definitely still fun after the like 100th run so far
And I'm still unlocking story stuff
Its basically go at your own pace and enjoy kinda game
There is no set amount of time you need to "beat" the game
gritty sand
Could somebody help me rq
What's that blue guy with the scythe called
Who always challenges you and drops 25+ HP when you clap him
cloud apex
Thanatos
nocturne reef
Isn't he wearing purple
cloud apex
although, he is more gray than blue ngl
cloud apex
There is a purple eye on the scythe, but other than that meh
nocturne reef
Lol
fallen crow
Do most people use god mode?
fallen crow
Eh, I will
nocturne reef
You get through eventually either way
If you dont care for gameplay go for it!
Let's you enjoy the story faster
gritty sand
Eh, I will
Before you do, try using the shield
fair basin
I want to escape without god mode at least once before I bother with it
gritty sand
It's really easy to beat the game with a doom-stacked shield
Or chiron bow and crit special
nocturne reef
I prefer the rail tbh
gritty sand
I think it's not as easy with the rail and idk if he has unlocked it yet
nocturne reef
Your've got to upgrade Chiron bow for it to be effective
mild zinc
anywhere where we can suggest stuff for the game?
nocturne reef
It'll unlock eventually
And no idea
Its not really in early access anymore but I have seen people post ideas in here
mild zinc
it's a small thing but i think it would help a lot of people
being able to see the boon list while fighting in a chamber
basically pressing b to equal pausing the game
i often find myself forgetting what exactly my build is and how to make it flow
nocturne reef
So.like in the middle.of fighting?
mild zinc
yeah
cuz rn u can press b and look but it doesn't pause the game so you just take damage
fading gazelle
Why would you look mid-fight 
nocturne reef
I usually just never check
mild zinc
to see exactly what your boon synergy is
nocturne reef
I just look after a fight if I need to
fading gazelle
^^
nocturne reef
Before switching chambers
mild zinc
i often forget
nocturne reef
How many runs have you done?
mild zinc
70+
tepid plover
im 200 runs in, pretty much everything unlocked, the game is still fun
mild zinc
niceee
nocturne reef
Hmm doesn't seem like a bad idea tbh, at least for accessibility
fading gazelle
But have you got the super secret super unknown ||bouldy bossfight||? @tepid plover
mild zinc
there is such a thing omg
nocturne reef
Not everyone's going to be able to remember their build mid fight
fading gazelle
Lmao no I'm just joking please don't take me seriously
It's just a running joke in this server
nocturne reef
Lmao
cyan fjord
in the same vein, presumably a stupid question: there's no way for me to see what boons i already have during the new boon selection, right? like when the 3 new options are presented to me, there's no way for me to check synergy stuff with my existing boons?
mild zinc
press b
nocturne reef
Or - if on switch
mild zinc
your boon screen should pop up and you can see everything
cyan fjord
ok imma check again
cyan fjord
no yeah i gotchu, i'm on pc
nocturne reef
No such thing as a dumb question, just impatient people
nocturne reef
Controller is my preferred play tool yes
mild zinc
but i got used to mouse and keyboard and now im so slow on controller
fading gazelle
I play with both
nocturne reef
Unless its an mmo
opal cave
Hey all
For the longest time my affinity with Hades has been unlocked. I'm at three hearts and it shows I can get to 5, but I never get the prompt to be able to give him nectar or ambrosia.
I'm confused because usually it being unlocked means I can gift it. I figured it would let me do it eventually but it's been like this for quite a while now.
fallen pond
I prefer m+kb
mild zinc
Hey all
For the longest time my affinity with Hades has been unlocked. I'm at three hearts and it shows I can get to 5, but I never get the prompt to be able to give him nectar or ambrosia.I'm confused because usually it being unlocked means I can gift it. I figured it would let me do it eventually but it's been like this for quite a while now.
how far are you into the story? it will eventually unlock but it takes a while
hollow halo
also, spoilers
spoiler tag it, can highlight and right click “mark as spoiler” or put two | on each side
polar bloom
Is it just me or does the bow hidden aspect charge faster on dash-attack over normal attack?
lilac latch
hi all, after the last balancing update does anyone else have the impression that Coronacht and Exagryph no longer get the Dark Thirst effect? Neither of them had it in the last ~20-25 runs I did
polar bloom
hi all, after the last balancing update does anyone else have the impression that Coronacht and Exagryph no longer get the Dark Thirst effect? Neither of them had it in the last ~20-25 runs I did
@lilac latch I have dark thirst on bow and rail on mh current and prev runs, respectively. Does this have anything to do with the frequency we're using the weapons?
austere jacinth
I've had both get it a fair bit. I always play with thirst and I've got Coronacht with me right now. It's just random, to my knowledge.
lilac latch
Does this have anything to do with the frequency we're using the weapons?
could be, I did usethemthe bow quite a lot before I unlocked the other ones, but after that I've switched to using almost exclusively those that have Dark Thirst. I think it's random but considering that there are 6 weapons, then it's a (1/3)^20 chance for neither of them to have it across 20 runs, that's why I thought it bugged out 😉
robust sundial
I always follow dark thirst and although bow has seen a reduction in DT, rail is like once every 2/3 runs...
must be RNG
lilac latch
oh well, might be that I'm just unlucky - if you're having it then it means the game itself must be fine, thanks 🙂
tiny grove
It’s all rng
Remember that with rng you can expect reasonable deviations because
You’re basically keeping in mind the last 5-10 runs mayve
lilac latch
yeah, I'm aware that pure randomness might get clustered to the point it seems odd, that's why I wanted to double check before reporting a bug 🙂
tiny grove
:)
fallen crow
Hey I just got the game, after I beat the campaign I just replay it over and over right?
slate jetty
yes, this game is very replayable.
fallen crow
So is there something that I upgrade? Like can I upgrade my weapon?
slate jetty
yeah, you will know how to upgrade them when you inevitably progress enough.
hardy escarp
This game is a rogue like, meaning that it is designed for replayability
safe marlin
Anyone else think it would be cool if they added Hestia with fire themed boons?
austere jacinth
I'd love to see the missing Olympians added in, but what would fire do to make it distinct from, say, Hangover?
lofty coral
It depends on the flavor of fire. I think Hestia fire boons could have a more hearth & home feel to them, but Hephaestus fire boons might be a little more high-impact
fallen pond
Icarus shop item, deal more damage for a while and then take more damage
lofty coral
It would make more sense to add Hestia though, since she is associated with the Adamant Rail already
austere jacinth
Well, Hera is an Aspect too
fallen pond
Icarus ain't even a god to begin with
dusky abyss
They have Hephaestus already the hammer you know
austere jacinth
The hammer is Daedalus.
dusky abyss
oops
austere jacinth
Who also wasn't a god
dusky abyss
i know
lofty coral
^
I would love Hera in there, I feel like you could get a lot of distance with Hera/Zeus duo voicelines
dusky abyss
i just thought hammer and god of the forge and was like
hardy escarp
Apollo could totally be in this game
austere jacinth
Hera would be awesome to have.
Apollo too.
Of all the Olympians, I want to see Apollo most, I think.
dusky abyss
anyone read percy jackson hera is a nono
austere jacinth
Percy Jackson plays pretty fast and loose with mythology. Most modern adaptations do to be fair. I mean, I'm more favourably deposed towards Percy Jackson than Lore Olympus, but a Rick's Hera isn't the definitive. I'd like to see an SSG take.
fallen pond
All adaptations is pretty fast and loose tbh
dusky abyss
True
but its still good
im just saying the whole her husband cheats so she takes it out on the demigods thing is a pretty spot on thing i think
austere jacinth
Eh, it's trickier than that.
glad mist
i mean even in the times these myths were made it wasnt always concrete. stuff shifted around as culture changed
austere jacinth
Very much true
dusky abyss
good point
glad mist
that and a lot of different translations over centuries
theres a lot of very ways of looking at it now cause of that
austere jacinth
Hera is more than just the 'jealous harpy wife' who just wants to get back at her cheating husband.
A lot of modern adaptations only care about that one take though.
dusky abyss
hacker from russia ( im watching the news)
glad mist
i mean considering how many people zeus went off with she was pretty patient with him all things considered
not with any of the people he went off with
brisk trail
Nig
austere jacinth
Hera is family and fidelity, and a protector. I think she'd like to meet Zag.
dusky abyss
elaborate pls
brisk trail
Bi what?
glad mist
like theres a lot of bi people
brisk trail
Where
dusky abyss
how would you know
glad mist
i mean zag for one
dusky abyss
you cant tell just by looking at a person
glad mist
i know
dusky abyss
explain
glad mist
i dont really know how to
dusky abyss
i curious
glad mist
they just have a very bi feeling
brisk trail
Zag is not bipolar
glad mist
all my bi friends have said as such
brisk trail
Whu
austere jacinth
Apollo would be ❤️
As for Hera, she's a protector of marriage and mothers. She's associated with things like childcare, and fidelity and there's no reason for her to dislike Zag.
brisk trail
Who does he want to destroy?
glad mist
what
brisk trail
"destroy" passionately
dusky abyss
ill have to have my bi riend look at this game
cloud apex
Isn't the main if not only reasoning towards that a ||thanatos-zagreus romance option||?
austere jacinth
And yeah, Apollo is bi af in the myths but he has terrible luck in love.
And Zagreus is canonically bi.
lofty dragon
Well in a myth Hera contributes to Zag's death
glad mist
i mean aphrodite as well
past pollen
game is good
fallen pond
Greek mythology in gay af
glad mist
yes
brisk trail
I thought you meant bipolar instead of bisexual because zagreus has a good and evil eye
fallen pond
Everyone doing everyone
glad mist
thats not what bipolar means
brisk trail
I know
dusky abyss
Greek myths are friked up
fallen pond
Especially zeus, he shagged everything
austere jacinth
No she doesn't. Zag is a REALLY obscure god.
dusky abyss
ok
lofty dragon
I know, so it's quite obscure but there is one
austere jacinth
There are some mentions of Zagreus as Hades, some as Zagreus as an independent ruler of the Underworld, some of him as the son of Hades and Persephone, and some of him as a version of Dionysus. He's... messy xDD
brisk trail
Zagreus is not bisexual tho. Some lines in his dialogue hint at that
austere jacinth
Zag is Word of God bisexual.
brisk trail
In what universe
austere jacinth
Hades game
brisk trail
Have you seen the joker movie?
lofty dragon
The one i'm refering to he is the son of Zeus from a titan before he married Hera, Hera was jealous and helped some other titans kidnap him, then they ate him
austere jacinth
That's the Orphic Dionysus version
lofty dragon
Ye
austere jacinth
Not the Hades and Persephone version we have in game.
lofty dragon
Not sure if the game is based on any zag myth
Not too familiar with the character, just that one myth
austere jacinth
It is, but there are multiple variants of Zagreus, same as with more ancient pantheons.
bright field
Were half of these myths basically just bar stories?
austere jacinth
It does have a couple of in-jokes regarding the Dio version though
Bar stories, plays, songs, urban legends... yep
lofty dragon
All mythologies are stories
brisk trail
Anyone else disappointed that there are no black people on this game?
austere jacinth
There are?
brisk trail
Who
austere jacinth
Ares and Athena, Pat is also dark-skinned.
lofty dragon
Nope, no blacks in greece, don't push race where it does not belong
Dio is a bit dark but it may be pighting
brisk trail
Exactly
austere jacinth
There were black people in Greece. And yeah, Dio's design too.
brisk trail
No black people in the game
lofty dragon
Slaves
brisk trail
If you look clesely at ares he is tanned except for the part of his sun glasses
austere jacinth
Ares, Athena, Dio, and Pat... Oh, and kind of Eurydice.
lofty dragon
Athena is weird
austere jacinth
Lol, that's war paint, not sunglasses.
cloud apex
Ares really do be stylish with those sunglasses bro 😳 /s
brisk trail
And that white part is the non tanned part of his glasses
austere jacinth
Ah, you're a troll.
dusky abyss
ok get away from race discussion
austere jacinth
I really like the rep in this game, actually. Both in terms of skin tone and LGBT+
But to move on, I'd love to see Hera, Hestia, and Apollo, along with a host of other ancient Greek figures.
Apollo and Hera tend to get adapted quite... negatively in modern interpretations. And I'd LOVE to see how SSG would design them.
lofty dragon
Well hera is often jealous and hateful
bright field
SSG is Supergiant?
cloud apex
Probably SGG for SuperGiant Games
austere jacinth
Hera is often jealous, but she's as protective as she is hateful.
I mean, my least favourite Greek god in most classic myths is actually Athena, who is a RAGING misogynist in most myths, but modern interpretations of her are quite kind. I like a lot of them - including SGG's.
austere jacinth
I keep mistyping it. xDD
bright field
No worries. It was just messing w my brain
lofty dragon
I think Perseus would be an interesting choice that would make a very interesting addition as Dusa's backstory development
dusky abyss
Yeppers
teal badger
lofty dragon
It keeps tha same seed
austere jacinth
I can't ever bring myself to give up. Zagreus would prefer to die. xDD
shut wolf
to get a common fish do i have to catch it late? so it shouldnt be a perfect catch right?
austere jacinth
Huh. I honestly have no idea how fishing works beyond the very obvious. I didn't know there was a way to be better at it beyond whether or not you catch a fish at all. I figured it was RNG.
fallen pond
There's a perfect catch mechanic on the fishing?
modest fiber
can I be sure that this halting lunge would stack with rolling lunge? https://imgur.com/a/OO2W6rU
they have the came icon which is throwing me off, I wouldn't want halting to replace rolling
south lava
They stack
queen wharf
I got a bet to beat ||Charon twice in a row by Hermes, and it's on the list of Prophecies.|| I did it exactly as said but it didn't complete. Did this happen to anyone else?
lofty dragon
Talk to hermes again
queen wharf
I thought I did already, but I can try it again
cloud apex
I got a bet to beat ||Charon twice in a row by Hermes, and it's on the list of Prophecies.|| I did it exactly as said but it didn't complete. Did this happen to anyone else?
you did it on 2 successive runs, one after another, right?
If you do win 2 times in a row but with a break it won't count
austere jacinth
||Also, if it was your first time beating Charon, I think you have to do a third||
gusty slate
Doesn't have to be back to back clears though, can beat 'em on run 32 and run 56, just can't encounter and lose inbetween those
Might need to beat 'em again yeah
cloud apex
Hmm, I definitely didn't get that for 2 wins after a few runs inbetween
hardy escarp
@cloud apex That isn't true, I beat him twice in a row without fighting him for a few runs and I still got the award
gusty slate
Would be sorta bad design to rely on that RNG for back to back clears 
cloud apex
Well, I hope that isn't true because if something that'd be cruel RNG yes
gusty slate
I beat 'em and then Hermes noticed like 1-2 runs after I believe
cloud apex
About 50% chance to actually encounter it by visiting 3 mid shops
opaque nexus
gaunt ridge
just lv4 Zag aspect because I got no more titan's blood left lol
cloud apex
Lvl1 nemesis probably is more effective than lvl4 zag, give it a shot
(well, as soon as you get 1 blood)
thorny cairn
Can someone help explain the math on Curse of Longing?
If someone is weak + doom for say, 100 damage, does that mean doom does 150 damage? Or does it have to do with duration?
lofty dragon
Basically yes, it ticks for 50 dmg before popping, don't remember if impending doom gives it another tick
cloud apex
I'm pretty sure doom just keeps ticking for 50 as long as weak is up
So it can be infinite if you reapply weak
lofty dragon
Hmm, not sure it's another case of a confusing description lol
thorny cairn
😦 oof if only we could test on skelly!
brisk trail
lol
lofty dragon
I've tested it on runs and i'm pretty sure my interpretation is right but you never know
brisk trail
well I'ma start streaming, have fun chatting guys!
frigid relic
flurry shot or explosive shot on bow with maxed chiron aspect no heat
lofty dragon
None of them are good but i guess flurry since you just use the attack to mark
grizzled stirrup
I think pets and companions would be a nice addition to game!
gaunt ridge
wow nemesis blade is crazy >.>
gusty slate
Nem blade is pretty cool
austere jacinth
@grizzled stirrup ||Having our Chthonic companions tag along visually would be pretty cool.||
gusty slate
The weapons are technically companions... they are alive
exotic heron
...but cerberus might get jealous!
exotic heron
Cerberus is best boy but might get mad if you get another pet heh
cloud apex
||Cthonic companions tho||
austere jacinth
||They're pretty cute. For new features, I still want to be able to fulfil Zag's promise to his mother more though, and take care of that garden.||
quaint hatch
||the garden takes care of itself||
nocturne reef
||I agree though, I was promised gardening and would have loved to just, idk water some things||
gusty slate
||Garden|| sim when
mortal isle
Wouldn’t it be cool if later down the line, they added DLC with new gods?
random thought
gusty slate
Need those ||Hades|| boons
mortal isle
^^^
Idk the other Greek gods but to see more represented would be cool. With a new side story
gusty slate
Doesn't really make sense story wise however XD
indigo canopy
apollo boons? pan boons? hestia boons? hera boons?
gusty slate
List could go on
quaint hatch
Which just make you fall asleep
mortal isle
Heck yea
gusty slate
Need Hypnos training world
mortal isle
That would be neat
austere jacinth
Hypnos could slow and daze maybe.
quaint hatch
Credit to me cough
gusty slate
We go to dreamland to test boons and stuff
mortal isle
I was thinking, it would be cool to have an area to test like
Any combination of boobs
boons
austere jacinth
I've seen Blindness as a condition thrown around for Apollo.
gusty slate
Skele: "idk boyo, I was just dragged into this here er, your dream? I'm touched you even dream about me."
quaint hatch
The first too
mortal isle
Could Hercules be one?
quaint hatch
He's not a god
mortal isle
Ah ok
quaint hatch
Rn boons are only given by gods
mortal isle
Y know what would be cool, if they could visit Olympus. Even tho it breaks the story 😅
gusty slate
We gotta meet the ||curse maker|| to truly escape
A touching story of how Young Zagreus amended family relations
austere jacinth
||Herakles could be a Champion though. A random replacement for Theseus al la Alecto and Tis for Meg||
quaint hatch
Nah stay off the mountain
mortal isle
Oh yea that would be cool
quaint hatch
Give me a game mode that gives me random modifiers chosen by the fates
mortal isle
Ooo
quaint hatch
And maybe reshuffles the order of the dungeon/rooms
gusty slate
Would be nifty if ||Achilles & Patroclus|| replaced the 3rd boss
quaint hatch
And random predetermined boons maybe
gusty slate
"Lets see how much you've really learned"
quaint hatch
Secret boss
mortal isle
Power couple let’s go
quaint hatch
Like ||charon||
gusty slate
Zag: "It would be an honour to see you fight again, lets go!"
mortal isle
||Also I’m obsessed with that fact that you can be romantic with Than. That’s my boi||
quaint hatch
Make Bouldy romance-able
mortal isle
😂
mortal isle
||In actual Greek mytho, did Zag and Than have a thing?||
gusty slate
Zag isn't really well known so not sure
mortal isle
Ah true
gusty slate
I mean he and Dio were the same person in one story lol
quaint hatch
In actual mytho zag is actually rumored to be a pre modern greece iteration of dio
gusty slate
The nod towards that is the ||prank|| that Dio tells Zag to do
flat vapor
3d artistry vid 👀
quaint hatch
That's where the in game joke comes from
mortal isle
Ahh ok.
austere jacinth
Only one version of Dio is equated with Zag and it's not the 'standard' version of Dio either.
quaint hatch
Dio wasn't always party boi
mortal isle
What happened then?
quaint hatch
That's what I meant by pre modern greece
mortal isle
Ohh ok
indigo canopy
in mythos zag isnt really well documented, hes been shown as the god of gods, the first god of the underworld, hades' son, hades himself, a brother of dio and dio himself, kinda weird
austere jacinth
Dio was always kind of a party boy. I mean, wine is his thing almost always. It's just that he was more Chthonic? I guess. Like, winemaking was seen as grapes dying, so there was that rebirth aspect vo1di mentions.
mortal isle
Ah interesting
quaint hatch
^ more right xD
mortal isle
Greek mytho is honestly neat
quaint hatch
Well what we commonly see as greek myths (especially in games) is mostly modern greek mythology
austere jacinth
And complicated. I love SGG's take on it though. Modern adaptations can be hit-or-miss for me, but Hades knocks it out the park.
quaint hatch
Hades has nice nuances while still making all gods anime Chad's and chadettes
quaint hatch
Hades romance sim incoming
quaint hatch
Maximum weeb activated
mortal isle
I would watch everyday all day
austere jacinth
I feel like the devs actually liked the myths. That they had some respect for the characters and they made them lovingly.
mortal isle
I need more lore lol
Also I love how all the gods kinda hate each other and are spiteful aff
And act like children
But it’s great
indigo canopy
the whole allure of the greek gods is that theyre flawed imo
mortal isle
Yep
austere jacinth
In some adaptations I get the feeling authors wanna 'make them better' or they just twist characters into what the story needs them to be. But when changes are made in Hades, they feel considered. And the writing is excellent. I love the whole cast.
gusty slate
labour of love this game
mortal isle
I also found out Ares and Aphrodite had a thing, and later on they have some text together and he called her sweetheart, or dear I don’t remember
So cute
mortal isle
||Also finding out Demeter is Persephone mom, goddess of winter and goddess of spring. So cool||
||The way Hades put it in Game about how scary they are is cool too||
austere jacinth
||Ha, that's true to the myths.||
lavish oriole
new to the server! throwin out that i love this game and am so impressed with supergiant!!! I have never played a supergiant game until now... the art, story, it's on another level. stuff everyone already knows 🙂
mortal isle
Same!!
austere jacinth
It's SO GOOD. Glad to see another fan ❤️
mortal isle
||I only had the game for 10 days and I beat hades 10 times. I love this game so much||
It’s not as hard as Dead cells is, and I feel so good when I ||destroy Hades||
But also still hard
lavish oriole
i'm not past the third world.... keep dying after i fight the spoiler idk how to tag spoilers....
i play mainly with the shield!
austere jacinth
I play with whatever weapon is thirsty. Keeps everything nice and varied~
lavish oriole
hm i'm so bad at them! lol!
mortal isle
You’ll get better!
lavish oriole
i unlocked all the weapons... !
mortal isle
I love the bow, but using them all makes it feel fresh
gusty slate
Even within each weapon there's so many different interactions and possible playstyles
quaint hatch
|| on both sides to tag
deep geyser
Alwyas try new things.
mortal isle
The aspects add fun variations too
lavish oriole
omg u all convinced me. love it!
gusty slate
100% maxed aspects takes awhile lol
austere jacinth
It took me a while to get used to some of the weapons - like the rail. But it's awesome when everything starts to click.
quaint hatch
Yeah I have all aspects unlocked but am still p far from maxing all
austere jacinth
Yeah, not all my Aspects are maxed. I've unlocked all the hidden ones though.
austere jacinth
||I love Arthurian legends too, so it was a nice surprise to see that in a game about Greek myth xDD||
frigid relic
which one should i take with maxed aspect of chiron:
twin shot (fated choice)
piercing volley (fated choice)
point blank shot
gusty slate
Doesn't piercing volley synergize the best? Not sure
quaint hatch
Not twin shot
frigid relic
yeah i was thinking piercing volley too
mortal isle
Least bad option is how I feel sometimes with Posidions boons..
quaint hatch
Poseidon build can be hella fun
mortal isle
I love an Ares or Dio runs
quaint hatch
His aid is p decent at least
mortal isle
Yea
quaint hatch
Every god is fun
Just need to build around it
mortal isle
Yea
austere jacinth
Pos's dash is hilarious
quaint hatch
Ares eh
mortal isle
I personally like that
robust sundial
Ares Dash helped me kill ||daddy|| so many times...
quaint hatch
No dash compares to athena
Other dashes are maybe applicable in specific builds but most of the time the a is still better lol
mortal isle
Like
quaint hatch
Hunting blades
quaint hatch
Fun is still the most important obvs
Zeus with smoldering air(aphrodite duo)
What I like about dios call is that it targets an enemy
For zeus you need to be close
mortal isle
I typically don’t like Aphrodite’s boons, but once I had a run like with a bunch of her stuff and it was really good
I think I had a Ares duo in there
Or Dio I can’t Rey
Remember
quaint hatch
Aphrodite/Athena is usually a safe bet for crit builds
mortal isle
If you have a zeus/Dem run, then having the one Duo that makes ppl who are jolted, like it doesn’t run out even when attacking
I forgot what it’s called
quaint hatch
Cold fusion
austere jacinth
I can never resist checking in with Dio.
exotic girder
Just wanted to drop in and say that it's super cool seeing little bits of game design and mechanics from Bastion, Transistor, and Pyre showing up in Hades. Like how the Elysium warriors drop eggs like enemies did in Transistor, or how the shield and rail feel right out of Bastion, or the bow's power shot mechanic feeling like power casting from Pyre.
mortal isle
I never played any of those games
This is my first SGG
Game
Also I never realized how much I would like Dusa keepsake
Especially for the Temple of Styx
I always take damage to poison
dry mauve
i usually run acorn in styx
also chthonic vitality helps a lot in styx at keeping you healthy
gusty slate
I carry spearpoint elysium onward personally
indigo canopy
i go purse in tart, then collar in asph and ely and spear for styx or tooth at high heat
brisk trail
Why purse in el?
quaint hatch
By asphodel u usually want your build done, which is forced with gods keepsake, purse gets more money for shops and potentially build up you cash for final shop
lucid shore
Does Hades have an official ESRB rating? I can't find it anywhere.
quaint hatch
T
brisk trail
I see, I should try it sometime
quaint hatch
That's what I run at least
Everyone has different preferences ;D
mortal flax
Do I reinstall transistor to finish the story(after starting over cause idr where I am), or do I try to 100% Hades(I got to the credits), or do I continue playing pyre? Help!
brisk trail
Of course, still nice to try out different things
woven cipher
how do you unlock athena's favour? wiki wasn't super clear
brisk trail
For Athena's favor you just complete a run, she then congratulates you on the next one, do it a couple of times
Do I reinstall transistor to finish the story(after starting over cause idr where I am), or do I try to 100% Hades(I got to the credits), or do I continue playing pyre? Help!
Transistor will surely take you far less time to finish than Hades
austere jacinth
Huh. I never looked at this game's rating. T makes sense though. There are some sexual allusions, a little bit of language, and LOTS of violence xDD
mortal flax
Yeah... but I'm addicted to hades. :( That's my real problem
carmine ravine
i mean aphro is literally naked
mortal flax
yep. She nakey nakey nakey
brisk trail
Eh the violence isn't that bad, all enemies just distingerate
woven cipher
ah damn, so I have to select her boon after a run I've cleared?
austere jacinth
Yeah, but nothing explicit is showing. T is fiiiine
mortal flax
(don't be lewd. Don't be lewd. Don't be lewd. Nosebleed.)
woven cipher
Transistor is pretty revolutionary, also has the best music out of all supergiant game
I really like it
mortal flax
Imo. Hades is metal and I love it
weary urchin
transistors a lot of fun so far feels like hades + chess
silent igloo
I need help with Thesues. I am aiming to take out Arteius 1st, but maybe I should just solely focus on him and not even do a god call where that can damage Thesues to the point that he starts making God Calls too?
mortal flax
ohk. that is a cuss. anyways. bad at chess
austere jacinth
It was way more of a thing than same-sex relationships.
weary urchin
@silent igloo until you get summons its easier to deal with asterius first since theseus kind of just does his own thing
quaint hatch
Meg
mortal isle
Oh
austere jacinth
He has comments that allude to it, along with masochism, and then there's Meg xDD
quaint hatch
They swish
mortal isle
I’ve seen so much Than/Zag on twitter and I’m living for it
deep geyser
I mean Than is hot so
mortal isle
^^
deep geyser
I'm just trying to make the triangle rn lol
quaint hatch
Bouldy
quaint hatch
Or artemis
mortal isle
Artemis: =_=
quaint hatch
She has a thing for zag tho
mortal isle
She just like to hunt. Leave her alone 🥺
deep geyser
She does not need to be mourned
mortal isle
Oh does she?
deep geyser
Yeah
mortal isle
That’s cool
raven lava
artemis has a bunch of nymphs and huntress ladies
deep geyser
All followers of Artemis were virgin females
mortal isle
Oooo
raven lava
she don't need no dudes
mortal isle
Lesbian. We are here for it ❤️
weary urchin
artemis has a bunch of "roommates"
raven lava
deep geyser
And its commonly belived many were lesbians
deep geyser
Then again Dionysus had satyrs so I'm pretty sre he was cool with whatever love
mortal isle
Did Athena ever get with anyone?
deep geyser
Cause Satyr weren't known to be picky
quaint hatch
Bruh chill
raven lava
i don't think discussing sex positions is a good use of our time
weary urchin
nope athena is known for being celibate iirc
austere jacinth
Dio was bi by modern standards.
weary urchin
at least in myth
weary urchin
when your brain is too big to have a romantic partner
mortal isle
Yep
austere jacinth
Probably.
raven lava
hestia was also probably celibate
deep geyser
Being the god of theatre
austere jacinth
Nah, drama nerd is Apollo
mortal isle
I would have loved to seen a Hera depiction
raven lava
in the sense that she spent her whole time tending the hearth on Olympus
austere jacinth
Apollo is music, performing arts, poetry etc.
deep geyser
Dio is literally the god of Theatre lol
mortal isle
Ooo
austere jacinth
Zeus had Ganymede
mortal isle
Oh wow
raven lava
wait i don't know this story involving ares
mortal isle
I didn’t know this
deep geyser
We don't talk about Zeus
mortal isle
😂
austere jacinth
Zeus had EVERYTHING tbf, yeah
mortal isle
Didn’t Zeus do a lot of bad stuff?
austere jacinth
Athena was also AWFUL in a lot of myths
raven lava
that was zeus
deep geyser
And thats how Aesterius was born
raven lava
well no
deep geyser
Wasnt it?
austere jacinth
Nope
raven lava
the king of crete wasn't doing his sacrifices to poseidon
deep geyser
I might be mixing the two
lofty dragon
Athena has done some pretty questionable stuff for a godess of wisdom
deep geyser
Ah ok
austere jacinth
He DOES abduct Europa as a bull though
raven lava
including this one particularly nice bull poseidon sent them to get sacrificed to him
mortal isle
Like what?
raven lava
so then poseidon got pissed and made the queen of crete have a crush on the bull
mortal isle
Yikes
raven lava
so she got daedalus to build her a cow suit so she could get it on with the bull
mortal isle
The 3 brothers are kinda sus 😂
raven lava
he did, they got it on, and that's where Asterius comes from
mortal isle
Whattt
raven lava
no it was
austere jacinth
Yes, it was.
raven lava
because poseidon took medusa to athena's temple and they got it on there
raven lava
and because athena couldn't take it out on poseidon she went after medusa
mortal isle
Also who is the least problematic out of the 3? Zeus, Posideon or Hades
deep geyser
Hades
mortal isle
Thought so
austere jacinth
Poseidon rapes her in Athena's temple. Athena views that as defilement and punishes Medusa
lofty dragon
hades is chill for the most part
deep geyser
Zeus and Poisiden are the worst
raven lava
whether hades is problematic depends on how you read the persephone thing
mortal isle
Yea
deep geyser
Hephaestus and Dio ar emy bois
raven lava
but zeus and poseidon are fully problematic
quaint wind
hey a few minutes late but please remember this is a pg server so no discussions of sex or sexual stuff thanks
deep geyser
Dio really didn't cause many problems
mortal isle
Like I enjoy Hades and I also feel bad at the same time
indigo canopy
no sex related talks about a greek game? oh boy
raven lava
dionysus used to be mortal, so i feel like he kinda gets it?
weary urchin
dio literally stole theseus' wife in myth haha