#h1-discussion
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so, quick question; just unlocked all weapons, where can i spend titan blood to upgrade them?
Yes
as in, where should i go
or is it daedalus hammer?
What do the hearts with the locks on them mean
You can upgrade them in the courtyard
This means you have to fulfill a characters quest given through random dialogue to progress the relationship
keep talking to Skelly and he'll make a comment about your weapons acting weird
so, quick question; just unlocked all weapons, where can i spend titan blood to upgrade them?
@wary whale go to the weapons and hold the select button, in the list of weapon aspects next to each aspect you can upgrade
After that you can give them ||Ambrosia||
How do you go about accepting their quests
You get them from random dialogue from them
What do the hearts with the locks on them mean
@teal badger means you have to fulfill a requirement, like a quest, to continue improving the relationship
Aside: Once I unlocked all the weapons and the mirror aspects, is there any use for keys except turning into the trader for Nectar?
Usually you'll get a prophecy to show that you have the quest
Yes
It's a cosmetic use
keep 15 keys for limited time exchange
I've gotten prophecies before where do i go to access them
Aside: Once I unlocked all the weapons and the mirror aspects, is there any use for keys except turning into the trader for Nectar?
@worldly flare some contractor acquisition uses keys but imo more worth trading them
you can trade keys at the wretched broker AFAIK
Well Ill keep an eye out then
If you interact with it you should see your prophecies
Thanks
Np
They absolutely destroyed me
?
Some minotaur and a guy with a shield
Those are the Heroes, also known as Theseus and Asterius or the Bull and the Dull.
Welcome to Elysium, my dude.
They're a big barrier at the beginning
the bull and the dull
Zing
Theseus is super annoying
I hid behind the pillars to stop his attacks\
wdym, Theseus is clearly the protagonist of Hades
But it was annoying to have to do that while fighting the bull
Defeat the minotaur first
@floral shore No. The champion is many things, but dull is not one of them.
You will see for yourself soon enough.
He is dull in the head
Let's be real, Theseus is kind of a dunce.
Asterius instead is best bro
Welcome to Elysium! We have:
- CROSS THUNDER SPIN ATTACK
- MEOW
- NO MORE GREAT SHIELDS PLEASE
- 10 damage times 4 from offscreen
- [thomas the tank engine theme]
Meow?
Meow.
MEOW! explosion
The flamewheels meaow
Ahh
and explode
TBH
i've so far only been able to reach elysium with that +2 health per attack daedalus thing
which is insanely OP just saying
EXPLOOOOOOSIONS?!
They also rrrrr
to get the 6th weapon, do i need to get the 5th one first?
I love them but i hate them
@mortal wadi yes
Yup
okay thanks
I found out how to get a green nick XD
||Meh, i finally got to the final boss, died twice to phase 2.|| Any tips? Im progressing really quickly, so i dont think im stuck per se, but when it takes so long to get to him, losing aint fun.
Im maining the spear atm, the spin aspect that gives extra damage
It took me many tries to first beat the final boss
You just gotta learn his movesets, or get lucky with the boons
First time i got the 70 damage duo thing, which was great
second time i didnt really have a big boon
Btw, any boons that are noob traps, or some boons that look bad but are actually great?
with enough practice his attack pattern is very predictable. Just don't rely on dashing through them unless you're really confident, just run away from the spinny slashes for instance
@thorny apex ||second phase|| is a spoiler, please spoiler tag your message accordingly!
Also don't get too greedy with dealing damage
How do you spoiler tag?
||like this||
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Fixed i think
Pog
thank you!
|| spoiler? ||
So, any clue on the boons thing?
I think almost all boons can be useful
I havent seen any streams, so far ive figured i should stack a small amount of gods and athena is op.
Mostly a matter of preference and playstyle
Not much above that
Maybe look at high heat strategies?
Its pretty much newgame+
Figured
Makes things more difficult in order to get more rewards
Is there really a lot of strat building you can do? I mean most of the time youre offered only a single path, and seldom are you offered two boons
I think you eventually learn to adapt depending on what you recieve
You cant choose which gods you get
you can force a lot of your build
The mirror upgrade, the last one with the die of fate, is pretty usefuel for improving your chances of getting what you want
Using god trinkets? Are they good? Ive mostly been using collar and tooth
Btw what do Hangover and Weak do to the enemy?
Hangover is poison dot
hangover is like poison, weak makes damage smaller
Weak makes enemies do less damage
I see
You can at least limit your boom pool to a certain extent
Weak seems very noob trappy, idk, unless you can apply it very consistently
Can I ask you all a honest question
Weak has a very high damage multiplier
Also are specials good? i fing myself almost never using my spear special except to deal with a single non aggro enemy
Weak usually gives high base damage to compensate
weak is a very good debuff, and comes with the highest damage increase on attack and special in the game
This mostly is only for people who have been playing this before 1.0
Weak is good partly because its upgrades just give a ton of attack damage
so it's a safe pick
||So I just ran into a nymph? ||
Hmm, i guess i never went too deep
||did any of you guys get either really sad or happy when you finally were able to get out of the underworld and talk to mom||
On the tree
oh she's barely a spoiler right @ionic hamlet
^
||did any of you guys get either really sad or happy when you finally were able to get out of the underworld and talk to mom||
@brisk trail holy mackerel yes i got emotional
I havent seen a ||nymph|| yet
||did any of you guys get either really sad or happy when you finally were able to get out of the underworld and talk to mom||
@brisk trail Kind of sad
Absolutely
Also if any of you got the secret ending
I havent seen a ||nymph|| yet
@thorny apex ||Eurydice|| on Asphodel
Oh my god that was a bromance moment
Loved that
Also if any of you got the secret ending
@brisk trail Not yet, working on it, currently on 7th escape
Oh shes there? Never seen her and i freed the counterpart
Well wen I tell you this
It’s worth it
Absolutely
It’s great
Oh shes there? Never seen her and i freed the counterpart
@thorny apex Yep, I've met her quite a few times already. She gives lvl up to boons.
huh
I personally like the boon rarity up
I mean there's no harm to using their names, it's pretty early content
heroic booze cast
It’s worth it
@brisk trail I believe that. Will be goin after the true ending tomorrow. 😄
You got this
||dad really ramps it up for the 10th one||
Most difficult yeah
Just caught my first ||scyllascion and sturgeon|| both in the same run! FeelsVeryGoodMan
Also what do you guys think of the ||arthur sword aspect personally I just don’t think it’s that great||
Btw does anyone think the song sang by ||Eurydice|| is beautifully sad? Wonder if we can get that on great hall's music list later
||its good but I just don’t see the hype||
It's so damn stressful seeing the fishing node in the redacted fight
4th sword is great, chunky damage
What hype lul
Why people like it so much
cause huge damage
It’s good but I like the one with crit
Also what do you guys think of the ||arthur sword aspect personally I just don’t think it’s that great||
@brisk trail How to unlock it? So far I only have ||Guan Yu|| for Eternal Spear
Invest titans blood
When is Supergiant Games going to come out with the Artemis merch? 😠
||after you unlock guan yu, spend at least 5 titan blood in the other weapon to get their hidden aspect||
What's the general consensus on triple shot for the bow?
It’s good but I like the one with crit
@brisk trail You meant the second aspect?
Yea
I kind of hate the three arrow spread
Also what do you guys think of the ||arthur sword aspect personally I just don’t think it’s that great||
@brisk trail i love it
||after you unlock guan yu, spend at least 5 titan blood in the other weapon to get their hidden aspect||
@viral bane Alrighty! Thanks
Honestly I’m a weirdo
So take my stuff with a grain of salt
It's so damn stressful seeing the fishing node in the redacted fight
@viral bane i never got a fishing node there
Also it’s probably that I hate sword the play style just isn’t my thing
i never got a fishing node there
Same
TIL there's a fishing node there, I thought that area is purely for boss fight
I like sword but my main strategy is slamming my fist into the buttons to win so I guess it fits
I also never got a naturally occurring fishing node in chaos, is that normal? I only got one once thanks to charon item
I like sword but my main strategy is slamming my fist into the buttons to win so I guess it fits
@opaque bough Same, even when playing Rail, almost always go haha button mashing go brrrr
I love shield
Ik I’m that guy
I also never got a naturally occurring fishing node in chaos, is that normal? I only got one once thanks to charon item
@novel spindle Purely RNG, I've gotten there 3-4 times I think
fishing spots can spawn normally in Chaos
I can't stand rail actually, if only bc I actually need to dodge instead of flinching enemies to death
Hades rng is special
Than fudge am i unlucky. Hundreds of runs and no naturally occuring fishing node in chaos??
Honestly I’ve grown a love for shields because of dead cells
Than fudge am i unlucky. Hundreds of runs and no naturally occuring fishing node in chaos?? M
I feel your pain m8
I love shield
@brisk trail 4 out of my 7 escapes were done by Shield. It just so good, especially ||Aspect of Zeus|| + arrow boon
Chaos seems rare
For me also
I’m a ||sheild of chaos fan||
Especially when you get Athena deflect on that
Shall we throw our eyes upon our enemies
That thing rips through the hydra
I mean the shield also with grandmas chill is nice
Messes up the ||cow man pretty nice||
IMO ||Guan Yu|| playstyle is very high risk high reward with its notoriously low health
Lmao I’ve gotten used to that stuff
I mean the shield also with grandmas chill is nice
@brisk trail Grandma's Cast is the best
Dead cells cursed sword runs is pain
the low health is a non issue since you can get health upgrades very easily, I've gotten up to 180 by end game
But makes me have lightening fast thumbs
hidden spear is too weird for me, I kinda need the Spin charge pulse Hammer for it to do well
I don't really like grandma cast, too slow to turn
||darkness health perk is a life saver||
I don't really like grandma cast, too slow to turn
there's a duo skill for that
the low health is a non issue since you can get health upgrades very easily, I've gotten up to 180 by end game
@coral verge There gotta be a hammer-boon thingy that speeds up the Spear charging, right? I rarely use Spear and Bow.
grandma cast is my favorite cast in the game.
there are like 3 hammer upgrades that helps out a lot on Spear charge attack
faster charging, bigger AOE, longer range
I don't really like grandma cast, too slow to turn
@novel spindle I like to spam them very close to bosses. Placement makes all the differences.
I’m a festive fog cast person
Love the duo for that
I barely pick cast boons and when I do it still keeps them targeted
boiling blood too nice
Grandmas cast is fun especially with the 5 bloodstone crazy cast damage builds but I prefer festive fog
is it called boiling blood? I forget
Boiling blood is ||dads debuff||
I mean the mirror upgrade
we also have Boiling and/or Abyssal Blood on mirror
+damage on enemies that are red Sims
Btw how to unlock the god's specific prophecies? Not the boon lists one, but the ones featured on Steam achievements.
Nectar
I've completed a lot of their boon list ones
Oh
I see
So, give them 2nd nectar each? Or more?
I’ve only maxed out Artemis and wave daddy
You improve relationship and then they will give quest
^
so basically max them :/
which is good... it's nice to have endgame achievements
||i feel likes dad’s call is going to be used for speed runs||
Give nectar to all the characters you like
Wait is dumping nectar after the first one good? I thought you didnt get any trinkets
|| i also love how when you trigger it when your fighting him he sometimes says shut up or something like that||
Really? Any worthwhile characters to max?
2 or 5 nectars each?
||i feel likes dad’s call is going to be used for speed runs||
@brisk trail i still need to unlock that. I was so confused when i didn't achieve the full keepsakes achievement
why is the ||invis|| that good?
I haven’t unlocked it either I gave my pc away so doing switch runs
||"Father!!!"
"WHAT!!!"||
max skelly, than, meg, dusa, achilles, and the boulder guy
But I’m aware of it
Wait is dumping nectar after the first one good? I thought you didnt get any trinkets
@thorny apex you mostly do it for the dialogue, eventually you unlock quests and stuff. And some give something extra at the last heart
||it makes you do double damage||
they've got cool stuff after maxing
I like megs max
||dad's call gives 100% extra damage||
but only on the first hit 
seems like it's for the entire duration
I like megs max
@brisk trail How many more should I give her? I think I've given 5, but there's still some unfilled hearts on her profile
||you get companion thingies after the 6 nectars, a favour and ambrosia for certain characters (the ones @jade crescent just said)||
I thought the duration ends after the first hit?
I'm using meg's too atm
||you get companion thingies after the 6 nectars, a favour and ambrosia for certain characters (the ones @jade crescent just said)||
@viral bane I see
Im right now trying to max out dad, Achilles, Tartarus dude, and than
same, than's is hard to hit
Bouldy is good too I've heard
Meg's is my favorite as well. ||Than's and Achilles'|| are also pretty awesome.
I’m almost at 6 for a couple of people on switch
Since you get some heals as well
I don't have ||bouldy or achilles|| yet
Is Achilles and than a spoiler
eh prolly not except if you mention what they give?
You meet than after your 5 run
||Dusa|| has some pretty funny dialogue even if useless damage
Bouldy is good too I've heard
@viral bane i only gave a couple nectar to bouldy
eh prolly not except if you mention what they give?
Of course
I just don’t like dusa
@novel spindle the companion comes from sisyphus actually
by that logic eurydice is also a spoiler but we can't only chat with spoiler bars
I also pretty much ignore skelly
dusa only ||petrifies||, and I don't assume it works on bosses
I’ve given them 3 nectar
@novel spindle the companion comes from sisyphus actually
@viral bane i like sysiphus even less
||it just drops bouldy on their head for 1000 dmg plus drops some supplies||
dusa only petrifies, and I don't assume it works on bosses
Doesn’t work
||it just drops bouldy on their head for 1000 dmg plus drops some supplies||
||just drops bouldy Bouldy is not a just moment||
Im slowly doing every characters nectar so I'll eventually get to sysiphus

are ||companions|| a one time thing or does it recharge?
if you max them you can get 5 in a run
^
huh
only 1 per engagement though
looking forward to it
There’s a Charon shop item to increase their usage by 1
You also can buy additional charges from the well.
The five baseline charges are mostly enough though.
Oh, quite often.
I play defensive and take hydra light
Many times I get to pat with full health and all lives

from Patty or the well?
I'm sorry bouldy
It's a good thing to have when you don't really need the healing or the DDs and use an attack. If you don't need either, why take Patty in the first place?
I've taken the well atk bonus often enough
Bouldy has always been supportive and I appreciate him
Because you get one trigger at the end of ||womder twins||
I feel like asphodel is the only area that I actually die in
I always take jerky from pat unless I'm low hp or missing DD
Or not an attack build I guess
Tarturus I don’t
can't waste DDs on the first two realms unless you've got heat cranked or a chaos deboon
And by the time your at elysium you usually can melt minions
bows have a really hard time against shields
And the labyrinth is kind of just easy tbh poison is annoying but not that bad if your fast
I feel like bows are too slow for high heat fights
bows have a really hard time against shields
Fair enough
poison 
I feel like bows are too slow for high heat fights
||nah Charon aspect||
question -- I'm thinking about buying the game, but from reading steam reviews I'm worried about the long-term replay value. Is there some sort of new game+ or "start over fresh" mode for a balanced late game run
yeah, some enemies can completely keep stunning before you get full charge
bruh, charon over hera??
they have a hell option if your initial save is too easy
I feel like asphodel is the only area that I actually die in
@brisk trail Styx rat holes are bane of my existence
question -- I'm thinking about buying the game, but from reading steam reviews I'm worried about the long-term replay value. Is there some sort of new game+ or "start over fresh" mode for a balanced late game run
@glass oak hades has a lot of replayability, its the core of the game. I still haven't finished everything after almost a year of playing
I saw someone with like 100+ win streak
I saw someone with like 100+ win streak
@zinc shore Mad lad
I'm not maxed out or even that good and I'm on a 10 win streak
Once you start upgrading via the mirror (and you don't enable harder modes with heat) it really isn't that hard to win if your familar with boss patterns
yah
there are difficulty settings you can set for bounties
what percent of runs can you expect to win with a maxed out character?
@glass oak assuming you know how to build during runs, and are good at the game, as many as you want
that depends - there is a system that lets you up the difficulty however youd like with many modifiers, so even with a maxed out character, the game can be as challenging as you make it
oh good thank you
Early game when I started I won maybe 15-20% of my runs.
the only bad thing about this game is that it takes too much attention for me also to watch godzilla while I play
what percent of runs can you expect to win with a maxed out character?
@glass oak im not a great player, i have maxed out mirror, and maxed out the weapons i think need them. Wins really depend on the weapon and the heat (newgame+). I just recently reached the credits (official "ending") and haven't managed to surpass my current heat (aka i haven't managed to beat the boss at a higher difficulty)
It's good though. Dying pushes the story along so even if you die you're not punished, really
@glass oak i really recommend the game, as long as it isn't a genre you hate, this is a great game
kinda hard to hate roguelikes tbf
And some people that even don't like rogue-likes (or is it lite?) love Hades
if anything the main qualm would be that it's not roguelike enough
There is some debate on the whole rogue-like/ rogue-lite thing, but to me they are pretty much the same
I'm not generally huge on roguelikes/lites but the presentation is so polished it's like
incredibly hard not to love lol
and yeah dying never feels frustrating since the hub area has so much flavor
it's like oh now I can talk Dusa again this rocks
Roguelikes = you don't carry over anything, versus roguelites where you do carry over stuff so you get more advantages over time, iirc.
Yeah i mostly prefer talking to the characters than fighting so honestly dying is sometimes a relief
thing with roguelikes is if it's bad then you've never heard of it, so we get this confirmation bias thing
not just a bad thing but to keep in mind
when will there be an actual bouldy rock to buy from the merch store 
|| trying to get hidden railgun aspect but Zeus never talks about it. Any help? i invested 5-6 blood into guns ||
But it's actually made out of rock
First mark it as a spoiler please
Second the dialogue when it appears is rng
Just do more runs
many experienced players have a 100% win rate on low heat
Also ||you need to have unlocked spear hidden aspect first, then invest 5 blood into non zagreus aspects, unlocking doesn't count||
|| on both sides so two bars
ok ty, so i just wait 
I'm gonna try hera bow next I think
my first bow run with zag aspect did not go well
kinda just want to get my bow clear out of the way so I can go back to ||hestia|| aspect lol
Is it good compared to Chiron Bow?
from what I hear hera doesn't need to be fully upgraded to be really good, unlike chiron
I see
Hera Bow is nuts imo
there are even potential builds where upgrading Hera makes it actively worse
oh cuz of the dropped bloodstone boon?
i guess it's suboptimal to run Stygian Soul Hera anyway though
but higher level is strictly worse in that case
unless you have a dislodge boon I guess
Yeah gotta find that hermes boon for optimal damage
So i dont think ive ever asked but why no apollo?
What was he the God of again?
What happens in this case? No additional dmg and just a crystal at the end of your arrow?
The sun, Artemis's brother
Seems like a weird exclusion considering Demeter seems more obscure
The sun, Artemis's brother
@willow swallow Won't god of sun be Helios?
I mean in the end the game is just an adaptation of existing mythos, so they're free to pick and choose what fits or not
Apollo is just Helios
Seems like a weird exclusion considering Demeter seems more obscure
@willow swallow But Demeter is kinda needed tho, for narrative too, because she's the mother of Kore/Persephone
Yeah, that's the Roman name, I think.
Apollo is just Helios
@coral verge I see
Oh, no.
Wait.
Seems like a weird exclusion considering Demeter seems more obscure
@willow swallow demeter is directly tied to Hades and Persephone myth so it would be weirder if she wasn't there. And few gods are as obscure as zagreus. I first thought he was a made up character
Just wrote a quick answer, but still just seems like a weird exclusion considering id consider him one of the most known.
I don't know, I shouldn't have tried to answer.
Zagreus, the God of Talking Back to His Father
I thought he was ||the god of feast and wiiiine||
Depends.
Apollo is god of sunlight and prophecies basically
wait... is that why Dionysos always call Zagreus bro?
Thats the orphic Zagreus, who is more just a beta Dionysus.
Honestly out of the entire OST, Hymn ||to Zagreus|| has fascinated me the most
And im not saying Demeter shouldnt be there just weird to not have Apollo i guess is my main point since hes more known
it's just so GOOD
Zagreus being sort of Dionysos makes so much sense now
Wouldve been cool but eh
I don't know, I shouldn't have tried to answer.
@brisk trail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo
In Hellenistic times, especially during the 5th century BCE, as Apollo Helios he became identified among Greeks with Helios, Titan god of the sun.
Apollo and Helios/Sol remained separate beings in literary and mythological texts until the 5th century CE.
Sooo... Both right and wrong, depending on the timeline? LOL
Me neither but there's so much outcry for it that we'll at least get a "we're not gonna" response
right now it's not confirmed or unconfirmed
a lack of burly Haephaestus also makes me sad
@opaque bough Yea, when I saw "Daedalus Hammer", I was like wait what?
there's totally potential for some sort of fire status effect
damage ticks but it increases enemy move speed or something
then again ||gilgamesh|| sorta does that
Btw, if I already have ||Guan Yu Aspect||, and to unlock other 5 hidden aspects, does the initial cost of 1 (for 2nd aspect) and 2 (for 3rd) for unlock, counts toward the total required 5 each, or do I need to spend another 5 bloods on each after unlocking?
||just 5 bloods on each weapon total||
Thanks
Theres "overlysarcasticproductions" on youtube that has a video about Dyonisus that mentions his connections to zagreus
"Hey, Red, I already know all the Dionysus myths, and there's really not much going on with him - so why on earth is this video longer than three minutes? And who are those other guys in the thumbnail?"
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LET'S FIND OUT, SHALL WE
PATREON: www.patreon.com/user?u=46647...
They also have a video about Theseus and Sysiphus that really alter how i see the characters in-game (much worse)
@fair dove @pastel flume please dont discuss feedback in the feedback channel
Oh man I love OSP
I'd like to note on that OSP video that it doesn't really talk too much about zagreus himself, just dionysus' connection to him via orphic dionysus
I just wanted to nominate my suggestion for the admin chamber is all
I just used the anvil and gain the same hammer ability I lost
Didn't know that was possible
how do i do spoiler tags
Can I get a mostly spoiler free tip on how to upgrade my relationship with hades outside of giving him 1 nectar
Beat the game, basically
It doesn’t let you outside of the one
You have to beat the game to give him more
And then u can gift him
I’ve beaten the game, but I’m assuming you’re referring to ||some secret boss fight. Haven’t seen it just heard about it||
No, just beating redacted
You need to get ||the credits||
||which is achieved by beating the game for a lot more times||
I’ve seen ||mom once on switch so far, and twice on pc.|| how do I get ||the trinket I need to do the secret boss fight||
I can tell u the actual number if u want
Ye just gotta keep going
||How do I unlock the other side of the mirror of night? ||
oh I was actually just talking to my friends about all like "heyyyy where's Apollo :("
but considering he generally does a lot with archery and plagues, that's kind of Artemis and Dionysius' wheelhouses
tbh i would have wanted helios would have been cool too i think
dont yall think we should have the option to change weapon when we reach a stage check point ?
Nah, bcuz hammer boons n stuff. I'm ok with it the way it is
Helios/apollo sort of conflation would have been good. I'm just not sure what it'd do
maybe like, radiant AoE stuff? Dazzled curse?
doing dmg without attacking kinda op aint it
i guess its similar to ares's dash buff with sword spinning
I mean, you kinda can with some of the zeus powers, and I mean like, you tag an enemy and they do AoE damage around themselves
or maybe their cast is like, a radius around you, idk. I'm sure actual devs could figure out what to do better than me, some nerd online
Does Support Fire and Aspect of Chaos interact the way I think it should?
(i.e. I get a shot for each shield that hits?)
do the small rooms on the top floor each count as an encounter
asking for the feather keepsake
I'm split on that
They don't count for the ||Flower|| but do count for the crops boom from dem
im confiused
Me too
||Anyone know how to flip the Mirror? ||
good lord I love this game
they count as rooms but not encounters I don't think
so you can still get the 3 health for entering a room, or side hustle cash per room
Weirdly enough rare crops triggers of them
To the left of the mirror options there should be arrows
So go on an option and press left/click on an arrow
If you have not yet unlocked it ||Nyx will tell you MORE||
I'm on switch lol
||I might have to talk to her then ||
Yup
what happens if you continue to romance a character?
I romanced Charon like 6 times already and he's still not giving me any signs of affection
not exactly
those are familiars right?
Not in all cases
||When you give a character enough nectar they might show a heart with a lock. That indicates you have to finish a quest before being able to progress I'm their relationships. This is usually activated through random dialogue and you'll get a prophecy for it. Once it's completed you can gift them ambrosia. In some cases that gives you Companions||
@quaint hatch || How do I unlock hidden aspects in weapons?||
There's a pinned comment in story and spoilers
If you still have questions just ask ofc
@quaint hatch Thanks
You know it just clicked for me how to properly use the ||Zeus Aspect|| of the Shield
Youre supposed to recall the thing when its starts entering an area with no enemies back to you to deal more damage instead of it awkwardly sitting there
Bingo! I just got it and I'm excited for having this sort of AoE area control dealie to play around with. I haven't used the shield throw that often before (Although the multibounce + ares was pretty fun)
Zeus or what?
so my switch game got an update, anyone know what that was about?
We just deployed a patch for Hades for Nintendo Switch that addresses a rare issue reported by some players where save data was not loading properly, plus several other minor fixes and improvements. Thank you very much for playing, and for your feedback and support.
662
thank you 🙏
i see that there is a way to change around items at the trader. is there any way to make use of excess darkness currency?
Yes
ok
You'll unlock it just by doing runs
that's all i needed to know, thanks 🙂
Hope you'll be having fun
does anyone know if they r gonna add more content
Any big feature you guys would like to see in the game ? For me that would be online coop (I know it's never gonna happen but still)
Nice one
or heucules
All npcs as bosses 😓 and dusa as the last and strongest of them
I think your idea is somewhat realistic if they ever decide to make a big DLC/free update
Choice of double boon or second hammer in elysium
Minigame cabinets at the npc rest stops
which do you go for?
Double
try to get hammer at charon?
I mean if you dont at all you can always wait until it appears in styx
jk got hammer in the next room
Hmm did an update just come out for the Switch?
How can you see what fish you've caught on the run so far?
#h1-discussion message
@remote lily
Cheers!
there needs to be like a rage channel where i can just scream about how i messed up fighting a boss or something XD
I misjudged my damage and the opponents health
And i literally was one hit away from finishing it
just finished getting all the achievements woot :o
I
I set shift to reloading and always meet autowalking in a direction without WSAD,have anyone met the same problem?
maybe shift+space+wsad will make the problem,or my chinese input method make it
You can ask in #h1-tech-fixes to see if someone can help
thx
I don't know if this is the right channel but as a suggestion, add 5 sec timer after you pause before the game resumes so you can get ready if you have to pause the game mid-encounter.
That goes in #hades-feedback be sure to read the pinned messages there first @deep gulch
5 seconds seems a bit much and could be easily abused
my first hera bow run went a lot better than my zag bow run last night
carried by aphro cast lol
still feels hard to deal with swarming enemies compared to melee tho
I've played like 40 plus hours of the game and I still can't tell if doom is good or not
I died with final boss on literally 40-50 hp, my last attack mid air, and boom got decapitated.
So sad 
Is there a late game use for keys? I got the mirror all unlocked and wondering if I should just spend them all on nectar
kind of?
there's definitely late-game cosmetics and unlockables that use keys, but the mechanical gameplay stuff you've already used up
Gotcha. So keys for nectar is prob worth
yep, plus it's not like there's a shortage of keys
I kinda avoid em cuz they don't give me dice yet
It seems with the first ||pact of punishment you can overide the rewards of a pactless run. Are those still there after the fact? How does that work?||
||heat 0 is an unusual case in that you can save those bounties for later and are not forced to get them, since the pact always starts at heat 1 (or 5 for hell mode players, but you can't get heat 0 in hell mode anyways). this leads to weird situations like people not realizing that they are even missing heat 0 bounties||
Ah so you can always go back and get them
Why does every interactable has a huge hit range but the poison cure wells? What bs is that lol
spend more time trying to click it the one time I get poisoned and by the time it pops up even when spamming the button too late your run is screwed!
ive never had an issue with clicking em idk
ts soo tiny
everything else has huge so I got use to that
welp time to fight hades with 51 hp
it seems the exact same to me idk
its not I tested
this always happens lol
you have to be on the most like southern tip of it
you can't be right or left
oh yea you hav to be below
you can tell from the visual of it that its kinda pointed downward
not even the trinket I maxed for not taking damage doesn't help
satyrs usually are really slow to attack tho
yea but usually I can't see the well itself half the time because too many glowy stuff on screen covering it lol
and rats are predictable
Arthur aspect is so fun
Just stand next to poison wells the whole time
I haven’t used it in a while
you can also try to fight next to poison wells if youre having issue with them
Stun lock them before they can poison you
I get poisoned once usually because dodging away into a pool
but "get gud" is a horrible excuse for a well
its literaly a well, not a key hole
it takes a while for the poison to deal a lot of dmg in styx anyway
and theres not really any other enemy in styx that deals much dmg
I think the poison sucks
yea and I can't see the bottom with the rave going on lol
its a lame mechanic yes but the well should be usuable from all sides its just a big ass bowl in this game
It's just so soften your health bar before big guy
they should change it to a coconut with a straw
isn't it fun when giant rats spread poison right around the fountain, so when you cure yourself you immediately get poisoned again?
235 useless hp points after that one poison lol
alright hades no lifes and 51 hp lets go
sword - yes
spear - yes-ish, if you can deal with the hp loss (but really, no)
shield - yes
bow - yes but you want to upgrade
fists - the jury's still out on this one
rail - yes
bep im not a big fan of that aspect personally
the bow once upgraded is sick
sword is like the only one that doesnt gain much from upgrading it i find
even hades knows the poison well hit zone sucks by his dialogue upon entering the room
how come I can't see the boil blood stuff
what?
unless his hits do it on contact
its his green skulls that apply it
I thought boil blood was a circular wave
yea I never see those
I see yellow skull enemies he spawns
no he shoots out green skulls
never seen that in my entir eplay time
and then they sit on the ground if you dodge em and they explode after 5 sec
was wondering what was happening
the circular wave is from the skulls
are you on color blind mode or something?
they dont move they sit there and have a countdown
no but usually I get hit when I go in for the backstab
wait no not there at all
this happens before any skulls get spread out like that
unless he only shoots one and I happen to get hit while on his body
but no circle comes out
no he turns towards you
it says backstab
yes
then I got the debuff
boiling blood also makes you take increased dmg from his swings
he was going opposite way of me
I like shield a lot. Interested to try hidden aspect once unlocked
I don't like normal boss at all but heard the hidden aspect is pretty different
I want to say that from the day I started playing early access to now this game has been amazing and still is
Oh ya
I love it only gripe is the giant cure wells are more like tiny straws lol
Normal bow
hidden aspect bow is really fun
I've never had a problem with the cure wells
it plays different so you may still like it even tho normal bow you dont like
I can't see them usually because there is a rave going on
yeah I have an issue getting the interactable to show up
I think it should be bigger its a well. Not a coconut with a straw that can only be drunk from one spot where the straw is in.
idk ive never seen people hav an issue with em
they can be slightly hard to spot sometimes tho
if you dont know where they are in each room already
I can see them
but trying to dodge and not get hit cured then poisoned again amongst a rave
it's more like an above ground spring then a well, should be able to dive right in lol
I dont' even see it spawn
Umm spoiler bro
remember that this is non-spoiler chat
I dont' see pins or thigns on top on mobile sorry. mobile ui so bad
I mean you can but you have to open memberlist
then click on stuff to see more
its like the poison cure well, bad ui design xD
the poison cure wells are fine 
they are 100% visible both while poisoned and healthy
I should stop callign them wells, they only look like them but they behave more like straws
i may just try to bind e to one of my attack buttons if not switch to controller you can assign mutiple buttons to one that way on steam
Can you? I play mostly on switch. Would like redundant buttons for a few of em
I don't know about switch, but with steam you can use any controller and bind it as you will
you can even do macros and bind multiple buttons
and it works with non-stema games if you add it to client so it can use the api
bone-rakers are super annoying
my game froze mid run 
Oh Switch update?
Yep:
We just deployed a patch for Hades for Nintendo Switch that addresses a rare issue reported by some players where save data was not loading properly, plus several other minor fixes and improvements. Thank you very much for playing, and for your feedback and support.
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Now I can spend some keys! 
Wait what does this have to do with keys
I can't even open that what does it say
You can't open Twitter?
oh they prob can play their save now @round wraith
Are you on internet explorer
I had to copy link, discord wasn't passing the link on to browser like normal
That's some caveman stuff
@round wraith From what I’ve read posted by SG folks, the save data loading issue was caused by corrupted data due to a crash. The crash was caused by empty talents.
Talents?
Mirror
Oh the mirror stuff
Yea I know firefox sucks
how does deflect work with the rail's special? like, if deflect gets added to that ability
The projectile prob has to be in the explosion to deflect?
But def not a good idea unless ur using ||the hidden aspect special||
ugh. I keep getting stuck on || hades, especially phase 2. || I can consistently get there pretty much every run, and recently I've been getting there with full health and full death defiance, but then I just blow it. and the annoying part is that I beat it on my first try, and since then I'm like 0-15.
feels bad
it's alright! keep trying! and one tip is to actually try and clear out the grabby pot traps as much as possible
create a safe area of combat
||u dont wanna get pulled into a laser||
how does artemis attack crit chance stack with vengeance blade?
When yall first started playing did you enable hell mode?
After like 30-40 runs im able to kill hades everytime now
I only kill hades when im not doing 40 heat runs
Question, what's the best way to do a bug report?
I've got a clip of what happened, but I'm not sure where to put it
Hi all! I'm supernew here (and to Hades)
Can I ask something which is slowly starting to bug me more and more?
ugh. I keep getting stuck on || hades, especially phase 2. || I can consistently get there pretty much every run, and recently I've been getting there with full health and full death defiance, but then I just blow it. and the annoying part is that I beat it on my first try, and since then I'm like 0-15.
@brisk trail
Just btw you ||can sit inside hades laser circle and deal dmg to him and it won’t hit you||
@glacial mist yes
I just went through all of Elysium without a single Well of Charon or Chaos Gate. Which was pretty frustrating, since those contain things I very desperately want.
chaos gates are my life
I take em whenever I see em
@glacial mist in due time
oh yeah when
it'll be a while
you have to progress your relationship with npcs pretty far, and it's also locked behind some story progression
the game will let u know when u can gift ambrosia, think of it late game nectar
then it's locked behind some story progression for me, I already have two locked hearts
Just save it up you’ll need a lot eventually
I was just a little bit confused by almost nothing unlocking after beating hades (except the Heat)
I'll be patient then
gotta play a bunch more
Yeah, beating the game is just the beginning
won't be a problem, the game is freaking addictive ahahahah
ive been playing it for 7 hours straight
ur not even tehcnically done the game yet, cos you have yet to see the credits
to me is pretty weird too since I don't really manage to get addicted on Roguelites and Roguelites often, almost never actually
same lol
my life is coffee
but i like story based games
i just want to complete the prophecies 😭
remember back in the day when the credits were available from the main menu
theyre definitely there lol
that's also possible
The credits have always been availible from the main menu 
i also havent beaten the game btw
they're hiding from me 👀
but i just heard that you watch the credits n stuff happens
You just won't get a sweet tune to go with em from the main menu
at some point, and thats like a sign youve actually "finished" part of the game
The song is so sick Agg
The credits have always been availible from the main menu :bittieLUL:
where
its like when u boot up the game
before the file selection
i think
or its in the menu
right
if you pause
where, in the menu, are the credits?
i dont actually remmeber
but i do remmeber
seeing them the moment i opened the game
hmm
thank you for your time
it just brings up a huge scrolling textbox
feedback os locked down and I wanted to post something there about the switch version
ugh
how??
in #bot-commands do ?rank Early Access
anyone know what the abbreviation for ME is?
what
ME
context?
some type of ability or boon within the game
does that abbrev. appear in game or are you talking about something someone posted?
the bot commands isn't working
heard it mentioned in a stream
ME is merciful end, the duo boon between ares/athena
omg redacted is so lucky I was on my ||game credits run||, I was about to delete him with this hunting blades hera bow
bummed I didn't get to try it out on the last fight 😔
Yea I had something similar lol was pretty bummed also
does it still count as a ||clear on the final victory screen||? I never saw it
Oh hey, charon's theme is stuck in my head
Um I’m not sure actually I think so?
i cleared the game many times in EA
would you recommend starting fresh ?
with 1.0
or I'll get to see all the stuff added from my old save anyway?
You’ll see the vast majority of the new stuff as far as I know
I think hell mode is only available when you make the file but I could be wrong
Honestly hades is probably my favorite game ever
Without the option to pet cerberus I'd give the game 9/10
No more awful awful chibi cgi rubbish
allright so no need for a fresh start then ?
I didn’t do a fresh start at least
So I wouldn’t fully know but I find that I’ve had no issues
@brisk trail
Just btw you ||can sit inside hades laser circle and deal dmg to him and it won’t hit you||
@hollow lark I did not know that! hopefully that helps get me over the hump!
You gotta be careful when doing that it’s pretty precise and if you mess it up you can take a lot of dmg
And using a cast pushes you backwards so you’ll take dmg
Just play shield and face tank the whole laser ez
i thoguht bow would be my fav
ended uo being my most disliked and shield which i thought I'd never use is my fav lol
love throwing that thing around and sadhing evrywhere lol
Maybe I just haven't had the chance to get all aspect to try which one suits me the most
That one is the most inviting really
I actually use Zeus shield most
@pliant flax the bot might be case sensitive
Zeus shield i wanna try more it’s very unique
ah
i use it an keep on movement constantly
with it following me as i smash stuff
lots of fun
Definitely looks interesting I just maxed it today in preparation to try it
I wanna try dash build run lol
hm, just tried a run with the chiron bow and boy i do not get it at all
It would probably have to be Zeus or Poseidon if ur trying a dash build
Yea, though I'll prob do that when I'm bored
on my 56th attempt I finally beat hades, I know a lot of people have beaten the game but was so excited to see what happened. Guess I gotta keep playing lol
congrats
Nice
That’s awesome dude
Um my dude, that's a spoiler
||beowulf|| is now my fav weapon
What gods synergize well with the rail of adamant?
Zeus is great for dps
Imma say zeus, dionosus, demeter and maybe ares?
Ares needs certain boons to come online with doom but I could see it working I guess
Rail merciful end sounds like one of the better builds for that tbh
But before you hit that you would be stuck with a kinda meh weapon
Aphrodite is great for the special, she has a great damage increase
And weak is useful for damage offset
are there any pre-requesites to get the npcs to talk to you for sisyphus' favour? (aside from gifting him 5x)
@wide gust i had to talk to MANY chatacters to progress his dialog enough for the task, and has the bounty to donit for dozen of runs before it was finally able to be completed.
Anyone know how flood shot works with hera bow? And duo ares for the flood shot pulse?
||>tfw artemis questions you about who's stopping you at the surface, even when you used her greater call during your last encounter with BigDaddy||
"I have him in my sights" yeah right
I feel bad
I was playing last night late
I started my last run but it crashed
Lol
So i picked up Ares' cast with the Beowulf shield, and i feel utterly cheated. why does it behave so differently on that aspect??
Hades selling soundtracks when what we really want are clothes and art. I NEED AN ART BOOOOK
Anyone know how flood shot works with hera bow? And duo ares for the flood shot pulse?
Terrible. Would not recommend.
so i have a heroic demeter special, cluster bomb and +30% special speed from hermes
it is a lot of explosions
it was not meant to be, my second hammer was just attack stuff
i think i need to boycott the daedalus hammer on this run after it gave me cursed sword on two stygian blade runs
it will get rid of my cluster bomb and i will cry
I think I take more damage from lava than the actual enemies in asphodel lmao
so if i killed the furies on one heat, do I need to kill the final boss on one heat to get fury titan blood on 2 heat?
yep
I'm having a bit of trouble unlocking the rest of Thanatos' hearts
every time i use a melee weapon in asphodel or elysium it feels that way
in elysium its the traps
just keep talking to him after every run, I unlocked it recently @indigo light
@lucid stratus those things that stab you with the spears?
Alrighty, I'll keep going with that
so annoying xd
Took a chaos gate that had trap DMG up condition in Asphodel.
Bad choice. 
Yeah, the lava floors are probably the most dangerous thing to me in Asphodel as it is.
Yeah lost 2 of my death defiance charges so fast.
i had sword with knockback and i kept knocking a witch into lava and i lost like 100 HP trying to kill it
I had a room reward spawn in the middle of lava once.
I lost a death defiance collecting it so I could leave the room.

#everytime
Yeah, I still very slowly inch my way onto the jetties
After a few runs of Asphodel I realized that I was treating Tartarus like that too...
Uselessly trying to dash so that I won't land on "Lava".... Which does not even exist.
imagine paying attention to where you dash and not just flailing about wildly and hoping everything dies by accident
Yeah, they're so tiny that if you have any dash effects at all...
or poseidon cast
Literally my first clear was Festive Fog + Ares dash [I misremembered it as Poseidon even thought it wasn't that long ago]
the ||Styx|| rooms were mostly fun
So... I am very interested in tracking down a way to extract a couple audio clips from the game, namely ||Tisiphone|| . I've managed to track down some tools that sort of work to supposedly give .ogg files but they end up being unplayable.
Murrr
...derrrrrrr
You know exactly what I am looking for 
what an endorsement! https://twitter.com/matthewmercer/status/1310842833322958848
So, @supergiantgames’ Hades has consumed @Marisha_Ray and I’s souls. Not only is it an incredible game with a SUPER satisfying gameplay loop tied with seemingly endless narrative dopamine drips, but it’s been sooo long since I’ve played a game & crushed on every single charac...
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meg is so cool. i want her to teach me how to be cool
@quaint wind have a voice that can melt anyone
is there anyway to farm materials fast so i can finish all renovations?
got my first win with gilgamesh 😉
if your lucky with chaos boons
@north pier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/751112073924313208/755565546220683284/Gued_Controls.png
@terse geyser Yeah same, except my controller is via bluetooth. flat out perfect control scheme- 100%
I tried that but the game seemed to be confused about constantly changing input
and I got some weird movement
Works seamlessly on my machine, though i can imagine some machines would act weird
@cobalt maple i am running that but it still takes forever to get 1k+ gems ;P
try fulfilling prophecies
who voices orpheus?
Is Gligamesh the best fists aspect?
Depends on your playstyle
man dionysius' lines are killing me
"hey man zag I'm not angry at you, you know I'm not, but truth to be told, I am a little annoyed, I really am, so I gotta send this message man"
10/10 would drunk text
i wasnt feeling the bow
then i got perfect shot
and i just got a heroic poseidon dash
i think this will be fun
Can someone help me?
maybe
I cant unlock the ||guan yu aspect||
How do i fix Settings that are not being saved. And Auto save is not working either.
How to switch the target of rare crop?

