sure it sounds OP but remember you have to stand still to charge that thing
#h1-discussion
novel wasp
novel wasp
and again if the damage is the culprit, just nerf it
brisk trail
It deleted final boss phases.
It's not overpowered on the other two Aspects, though.
novel wasp
because they have better hammers to use other than the ones on special?
like ahem, sniper shots?
Twin shots?
Explosive shots?
these do not benefit chiron in any ways
brisk trail
Explosive Shot does, actually, by giving you ways to hit enemies when you would have missed, otherwise.
The AoE still marks targets.
brisk trail
You do not need a full charge.
limpid root
i can get perfect,twin, or explo, which one?
brisk trail
What's your Aspect?
novel wasp
yeah get up close instead then
limpid root
which is the one i should get first?
brisk trail
What. Is. Your. Aspect.
novel wasp
again, the two things that in theory will work great on chiron, but is very niche on the other 2 and def has better choice over them if you are picking the other 2 aspects
cinder lichen
,,,Have you unlocked all of the weapons, Nevada?
limpid root
yes
cinder lichen
What aspect are you using?
limpid root
the stock one for bow
brisk trail
Twin.
limpid root
okay
cinder lichen
I would say any honestly
limpid root
tyty
cinder lichen
Explosive is slower, Twin is shorter, and perfect is dependant on your able to time
limpid root
lol mk
cinder lichen
so uh, yeah. Would you like range or speed?
limpid root
im a damage person
flat vapor
twin's reduced range actually perfectly counteracts explosive's slower charge, it's pretty good
cinder lichen
Well, Perfect doesn't hinder you, but it also doesn't help you if you can't perfect shot.
brisk trail
Perfect Shot has the lowest returns.
cinder lichen
If you want more damage, Explosive is p good. But you'll be vulnerable more often.
limpid root
wdym?
brisk trail
At most, Perfect Shot will add 60 damage (without crits).
novel wasp
@flat vapor def. I nuked bosses this way
cinder lichen
You'll be closer to enemies with Twin, but you'll also be able to deal twice your damage also.
brisk trail
Most of the time, 40 damage because you'll be Dash Attacking primarily.
Twin doubles your damage, straight-up.
cinder lichen
...Say, you power-shot when you dash, right?
brisk trail
The best Hammer for Zag Aspect.
novel wasp
yea perfect shot is just kinda there i guess
limpid root
wish i could send pictures to show my boons
brisk trail
You can.
cinder lichen
Neat
brisk trail
Get an image link of it and we can see it.
cinder lichen
Well, you can...it's just a complicated process
brisk trail
Gyazo, imgur, whatever you use.
cinder lichen
as complicated as Administration Duty in Hades, hehehe
limpid root
cinder lichen
Huh, neat.
limpid root
yeah im kinda at a bad boon build
no good boons at all this run
im selling them so i can buy boons at cerus
limpid root
nah
limpid root
im doing fine its just not enough damage
cinder lichen
you
NEEED
a Special Boon
or
just Boons overall jeez
And you never sold any of them?!
This is all you have?!
limpid root
i sold bad ones
limpid root
zeus stuff
cinder lichen
Can you remember what boons you sold?
cinder lichen
Dude
Artemis on Special,
Piercing Volley also
that was a mistake to sell that if I'll be blunt.
cinder lichen
Dude Special on the bow is underrated
limpid root
?
cinder lichen
Piercing Volley too
novel wasp
Special on bow is rarely used but when its used its there
cinder lichen
If you get a boon to boost the damage% of your special, you can dash up to an enemy to shotgun them if you really want to kill it
novel wasp
but its not like other specials where you can abuse it by spamming it
novel wasp
but funnily enough, despite you have special increase boon, you still dont want to invest on it
limpid root
chiron special i use 24/7
cinder lichen
F
limpid root
i only got the armor piercing for special cause it looked like the only useful one from art at the time
cinder lichen
More damage to armor, and more damage to hordes overall
Shotgunning single enemies is cool...until you come across too many to handle at once
because your arrows can only hit one enemy, you can only deal massive damage to one or a little damage to...maybe more
because the gaps in between the special arrows' trajectory are also kind of eh
limpid root
hm
cinder lichen
But with Piercing Special, you get a more constricted cone to focus on a single, more damage overall and especially to armored foes,
and because it pierces, it can be effective at handling hordes should you have a good boon on it
novel wasp
also ngl its funny when you get athena special
cinder lichen
Like Artemis for that chance to 300% damage crit!
novel wasp
you have your very own cone of protection
cinder lichen
Fade that hurts me I think if you can't easily deflect an armored Spreader's attack easily, it ain't effective for Athena.
And I had a hard time dealing with Armored Spreaders when I try to delete the bullets off of my screen with my own arrows.
ugh
limpid root
if the special was more concentrated into a smaller cone I'd use it more
novel wasp
What are you talking about
cinder lichen
Enemies (and projectiles) can easily slip between your Special's thin hitboxes
Well, at least you have that now, Nevada
novel wasp
Fade that hurts me I think if you can't easily deflect an armored Spreader's attack easily, it ain't effective for Athena.
@cinder lichen ???
cinder lichen
Okay maybe I was a little too overdramatic but like
novel wasp
sorry im sleepy but maybe you are just really having tough luck?????????
when the deflect hitbox was bigger than my future
cinder lichen
...does it increase your arrows' hitboxes?
novel wasp
also really unwise to assume i cant murder a bunch of bullet hell witches
when i said 0 things about it
cinder lichen
My original point was that if your attack can't protect you from a swarm of bullets, Athena might be better on a different attack
is what I was saying
Or like, if your weapon's attack/special can't easily destroy bullet swarms
Like the sword's swipes, Spear's Spin Slash Dash
novel wasp
yes you can null the attack using bow special
but its funnier when you no u them back
novel wasp
no it isnt
cinder lichen
Are the Special Arrow hitboxes really increased by Athena's effect?
Because if they are then that sounds rad
novel wasp
Athena deflect comes with forgiving detection box
cinder lichen
Aight that sounds rad and weird, lol
cinder lichen
I wish you could dash or move while you're specialing
novel wasp
if you failed at using athena i think the problem is yourself
athena boon wins games
except the cast
cinder lichen
I mean I can use Athena, I just didn't have Athena when I tried to Zag Bow Special out of a bunch of Armored Spreaders
thin hitboxes
limpid root
thin
novel wasp
you could null the projectile
and then kill them witl attack
why would you special against long range when you know you should shotgun them to death
cinder lichen
Bullets
cinder lichen
They were at least 2 dashes and a lava pass away before I could effectively shotgun just one of them
or like, I didn't think of it at the time
'cause I was just starting out
pseudo linden
bow special nulls with or without athena if I recall
limpid root
what does it mean when ur resting?
novel wasp
athena deflects instead of nulling them
cinder lichen
I think every attack deletes Witch-type projectiles.
limpid root
is it just to progress the story?
cinder lichen
Yeap
pseudo linden
every attack does but bow special is better
limpid root
ah
pseudo linden
and yeah resting is just for story updates
cinder lichen
Arthur is better at deleting projectiles
limpid root
im in the game for the story because its intriguing
cinder lichen
and Varatha overall
pseudo linden
the story has more punch when you're fighting for it
anyone here beat a 32 heat run?
I kinda want some tips
novel wasp
nice trolling
cinder lichen
"Have you considered, moving out of the way?"
novel wasp
hypnos is epic
cinder lichen
limpid root
wha
i still havent found "Divine Protection".
Relentless Valley seems nice
i think I'll use special more if i find this
molten cape
The Sisyphus Favor seems totally bugged for me, I unlocked all the quest triggers including talking to Hades and Meg, but the House contract for Sisyphus is still not showing up.
empty turtle
@molten cape ive been also having trouble with sisyphus been playing this game before the demeter update, and during the demeter update i got the quest triggers for sisyphus but then they just stopped beat the game multiple times have every other item unlocked. the only item i need is the one you get for freeing sis
heck i free music man before sisyphus T-T
vapid grove
Allot of the characters are gone ;__; I feel lonely XD
distant sun
nyx has a job outside and hades is stuck doing an at home job
abstract ferry
how does Dire Misfortune work?
sharp parcel
doom lasts for 1.1 seconds normally, every attack during that window increases the final damage by the amount of attacks based on the boon
you can extend the duration to 1.6 seconds with another boon
Chiron bow is the best way to maximize Dire Misfortune
sharp parcel
I don't remember how fast Zeus shield is
plucky widget
Hi, dumb question but how do you fish ? (when you have the fishing rod)
I mean, is there any timing to have ?
sharp parcel
you need to click when it flashes
if you click right after, you get Perfect Catch, which yields more resources and has a chance to net a rarer fish
otherwise, you get a regular Catch
solemn igloo
regular catches suck man
primal whale
How many more gems does a perfect knuckle head yet you over a regular?
brisk trail
i once got poseidon boon for fishing
it was legendary
but idk how to fish
always says im early
sharp parcel
you gotta wait for the flash
primal whale
I didn't think it was more but Zepp made me second guess it
primal whale
Another tip for fishing is they only fake out a max of 3 times
solemn igloo
and something like 150 gems
primal whale
so the 4 time you can get ready
solemn igloo
yeah you are guarenteed a good timing on the 4th
brave thicket
but then there are times when it flashes right after your throw
primal whale
diamonds are caught from fish in chaos
primal whale
150 is from the stonewhal in styx
I think its the best you can get of the normal fish
brave thicket
tahere us a goddamn wiki
solemn igloo
stonewhal is rare fish
brave thicket
legendary
solemn igloo
wiki is not for me
primal whale
the wiki is very useful for looking up what duo boons you can get with a god and also looking up the boons you need for a given gods legendary
but I would recommend getting at least a few dozen runs under the belt and experimenting before looking at it
pseudo linden
Why do some troves give you only 25 gems?
Even though I have the bigger trove upgrade and normally get 75?
solemn igloo
If i clear rooms with lambent plume (haste keepsake) and get it up to some %, then i switch it out. Do i keep the bonus?
pseudo linden
Is it weird that I find the bow to be one of the best melee weapons in the game?
brave thicket
no
pseudo linden
Short range volleys destroy people, and if you get the 3 shot spread, oh boy..
brave thicket
you use special right>'
pseudo linden
What about with demeter and decay/cold blast?
twin fists seem to apply it really quickly, you could be freezing them and blowing them up at the same time
I haven't run it myself though
pseudo linden
I like Demeter
the freeze is pretty useful on high heat runs
having slow enemies is great
and her decay feels pretty strong
also her cast is imo the best in the game if you don't have access to bloodstone buffs from the mirror. Though even then it's good dps
brisk trail
i never foundthat boon what doesit do
yeah the cast is gso good
but the duo festive bog with zeus is the best tbh
brisk trail
yup
pseudo linden
oh yeah
brisk trail
duo
pseudo linden
can't remember that, lol
I must have gotten it when I didn't use my cast much..
poor noob me..
also I asked this before but no one answered me, are you supposed to get 25 gem troves even though you've upgraded to the 75 ones?
quaint bramble
I really like Demeter, her duos are some of the best in the game imo, her status effect is pretty good, and the damage increases are serviceable.
Also, yes, I believe it is intentional that you get base-quality troves if it spawns because of a Trove Tracker you bought and not a normal spawn.
solemn igloo
poseidon demeter duo is insane
indigo wyvern
So I found a Facebook advertisement that's using a picture of Zagreus as a means to advertise their product
novel wasp
thonkang
alpine stratus
lmao whats the product
flat vapor
the latest cause of death for zag: capitalism
quaint bramble
“And so the tale of our Prince ends when he is involved in an industrial accident brought about by construction companies cutting corners to save money.”
DunDunDunnaaaaa
opaque nexus
I need to give nemesis sword another try
I feel like I’m thinking too much when in reality I should just spam dash attack
molten cape
@empty turtle thanks for the info, it's good to get an answer
indigo wyvern
@alpine stratus some sort of a service promoting mobile games probably
vale kite
prophecy foretold
wind nest
Hey what is the "ambiguity bonus" on the heart of stone?
merry harbor
Unfortunately, nothing.
brisk trail
OK SO i used to hate machine gun
but my 2nd time trying it
and its so good with dionysus
wish me luck ill go to redacted
wind nest
It does nothing?!?!?! What a jip
mortal palm
demeter has great boons :c
brisk trail
yeah her decay is good
mortal palm
one of the best casting boons in the game(blast of cold on casting), chill is in general good if you can apply it a lot, yeah the decay
brisk trail
yeah the laser cast i like
mortal palm
ravenous will is great, 10% less damage and +10-30% damage while you have no casts left
nourished soul is great early on for sustain with the improved restore
oh also rare crop which is basically "here have 1-3 heroic level boons"
(her call is quite good too letting you apply max chill relatively easily)
wind nest
I'm able to get to hades relatively easily but he's quickly killing me....
I've done like 4 runs where I got to hades with 2 lives and I barely make it to his 2nd form.
quaint bramble
I think it just takes a while in that rut to figure out the final boss’ patterns and then things get a lot clearer.
tight axle
evergreen acorn is good for that fight, possibly better than the skelly tooth because final boss can potentially do more than 100 damage in three swings
distant sun
um... housten we have a problem
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695769434941554792/699000556647088128/unknown.png
"stay out of there"
this a funny glitch
spring lava
hades finally found a way to make you stay home
Is there a tracked number of dialogue lines with Hades and the prince that doesn't end in "Boy."
I'm not complaining, the voice actor spits out the "Boy." fantastically, I just noticed that was like, 90% of the lines lol
waxen ice
ha, i got explosive shot and spread shot for bow hammer upgrades
mortal palm
boi
worthy egret
DID ZAGREUS JUST GO PISS OFF
AT AN ENEMY
GASP
DO YOU KISS YOUR MOTHER WITH THAT MOUTH
waxen ice
no, but i kissed yours
HAHA OMFG LOL
i deflected the third area boss' spear into him and killed him
brisk trail
||He also calls Lernie a "flying bastard" sometimes with Extreme Measures.||
smoky rune
You know the dark bonuses available for each weapon before the escapes? It seems like the gloves, shield, and gun get picked all the time but not the sword or bow
tight axle
the fists never get it for me ): I typically get the game to choose what weapon I use even if I avoid darkness for other things but it feels so wrong to pick one without the bonus
fresh heart
okay hello
I have a question about configuring my ps4 controller with this game with using steam controller support
I want my right stick to be where Zeg looks can I do that and have everything else work fine?
cloud tide
Hey, i got a question...
Do the phases hades recites at the start of a run occasionally have any impact? Those where something is highlighted like "MORTAL"
Also im new so pls no spoilies :D
flat vapor
devil, they're purely story, they are past conversations with hades that zag is reflecting on
fresh heart
^^^
cloud tide
Ah okay, thanks
Ive been wondering about that since it first came up
spring lava
Got my second clear today after 27 runs. Zeus taught me how broken on hit effects was on the gun weapon
Who needs to prioritize targets when you can just hit all of them
pseudo linden
That seems like the perfect evolution of an automatic gun
Don't want to aim? Have an automatic. Don't want to hit just one target? Get a Zeus boon
fresh heart
I have a question about configuring my ps4 controller with this game with using steam controller support
I want my right stick to be where Zeg looks can I do that and have everything else work fine?
deep pivot
I have no idea 😦
pseudo linden
Before Malphon released, I kinda wanted a weapon that was about enemy manipulation
like a whip
could have had nice dialogue with Megaera
I can live my fantasy though with Talos Fists and a Poseidon boon on the attack
push and pull
spring lava
I have a question about configuring my ps4 controller with this game with using steam controller support
I want my right stick to be where Zeg looks can I do that and have everything else work fine?
@fresh heart no. As far as I can tell, Zeg looks where Zeg moves. KB+M can make Zeg briefly look in any direction to fire a cast/special/weapon but he'll always turn back towards his moving direction
no tank controls, basically
fresh heart
someone made this steam controller configuration that does what I'm talking about
but that's a steam controller and I want to use my ps4
spring lava
Oh thats an interesting way to do it. Clunky as hell, but that would work. You should be able to just copy that config to your PS4 controller. But you'll need to have left stick click be the "click", which might be a pain in the butt in the middle of a room.
you're going to have to map that to your PS4 controller yourself because there is a loooot of clunky shenanigans with action layers that isn't directly copyable. Fortunately they seem to have explained how they did it in the post
fresh heart
even tho they did I've never configured my ps4 on steam so I need extra help
he has it to where it knows the Hades names for abilities, but I can't seem to get that on my end if that makes sense, which complicates the whole thing
spring lava
Hades is a game about a guy who absolutely refuses to follow home quarantine orders.
fresh heart
lmfao
limpid root
Is the blade of Arthur good?
narrow hemlock
if you're good at using it, yes
being able to utilize the weapon to its potential matters a lot because if you're bad with it, you're not going to have as much fun with it. if you're good with it though, it can deal crazy damage
same is true with guan yu and will probably hold true for all of the future aspects
limpid root
i love the weapon
its the best so far
i love the damage but if get my favorite hammer upgrade which is the lifesteal one
its gunna suck
because of the lack of speed
the weapon has
swingspeed
whats the special do for it?
I could do 57 heat with arthur blade
. >
alpine yacht
Hey fellas, I'm quite new, is 20 attempts and only reaching Elysium reasonable or am I playing too carelessly? I'm approaching this very much like diablo so mostly hacking and slashing like a maniac.
Having a blast, don't get me wrong 😄
limpid root
im doing the same
i think its about having a balance but leaning towards something more
play with your weapons strengths
i say
alpine yacht
Yea I'm still getting used to them, just finished unlocking them all, now playing with blood upgrades
dash/attack/specials are my style mostly, can't seem to get the hang of ranged yet 😄
limpid root
yeah i couldnt either but it takes getting use to
use your entire arsenal at some point
tacit sparrow
Hey fellas, I'm quite new, is 20 attempts and only reaching Elysium reasonable or am I playing too carelessly? I'm approaching this very much like diablo so mostly hacking and slashing like a maniac.
personally it took me a pretty long time to get to Elysium, so don't worry, it's alright!
I also hack and slash but I think eventually you'll find a weapon that you work with the best
limpid root
i got into elysium in my third run but im still dying there sometimes
tacit sparrow
I mostly die in Styx if I don't get to the final boss
limpid root
i only die to Hades when im up in styx
tacit sparrow
Theseus is an ASS to fight ngl
limpid root
cause i usually lose all my hp to poison before
tacit sparrow
Asterius is ok. Theseus? perish
tacit sparrow
exactly
limpid root
but i like to use Dionyus's Aid for that fight
tacit sparrow
I usually play very aggressively so I find Theseus very annoying
limpid root
because easy and fast to fill and
tacit sparrow
I wanna try charming Theseus ngl
limpid root
it doesnt get blocked thesus's shield
you can charm bosses?
whaaaaaaa
i never use aphro's aid
limpid root
hm well good luck charming him
i usually kill thesus before bull boi
because its a lot easier after he's dead
i lower both at the same time
tacit sparrow
I try to kill Theseus first but Asterius is just so much easier to kill
limpid root
well you'll get use to killing them
death is a learning experience and you can make you idea's and plans to fight them
just need some rng on your side :))
quaint bramble
I alwayyyyss dispatch Asterius first nowadays. 1v1 Theseus is so much simpler for me when I only have to worry about dodging calls and not terrifyingly accurate bull rushes at the same time.
limpid root
the shield is a good weapon, enough to be called a crutch but its good for slicing and dicing
narrow hemlock
(for reference the identity of the final boss is considered a spoiler in this channel)
limpid root
yeah
narrow hemlock
@tacit sparrow theseus has many lines where he sounds like he's having an internal struggle if you charm him, it's very amusing
limpid root
. >
tacit sparrow
oh boy now I gotta do that
narrow hemlock
my fav one is the one where he exclaims he's smitten
limpid root
take a recording and let us hear
:^)
put it in spoilers once u get dat stuff
question.
whats the wr for highest heat finished?
narrow hemlock
dunno you'd have to ask in gameplay or something maybe
limpid root
mk
tacit sparrow
now that makes me wonder about charming ||Tisiphone||
limpid root
probably just murder
tacit sparrow
I hope she says murder but in a nice tone LMAO
limpid root
that'd be nice
narrow hemlock
I'd have to double check but off the top of my head I can only recall charm lines from meg, theseus and asterius
limpid root
||can hades be charmed then||
lethal fog
yes
tacit sparrow
yes
there was a discussion on it and someone said that ||Hades giggles when charmed which confuses me to hell and back||
quaint bramble
I can corroborate the reports of giggling/gleeful laughter from personal experience.
limpid root
he is mad outside but he happi boi inside
tacit sparrow
that sounds a bit like nightmare fuel tho
Imagine ||Hades's|| voice going hee hee like good lord
quaint bramble
He sounds genuinely happy in the voice lines, which is wholesome; imagining his voice maniacally giggling is an entirely different vibe lmao
limpid root
oh
narrow hemlock
pretty much all the boss react to charm besides like.. the hydra, but not all of them have necessarily have commentary about it. asterius only ever says a few words, while most of his reactions are confused grunts for ex
novel wasp
Heehee
spring lava
Hey fellas, I'm quite new, is 20 attempts and only reaching Elysium reasonable or am I playing too carelessly? I'm approaching this very much like diablo so mostly hacking and slashing like a maniac.
@alpine yacht it took me 25 runs for my first clear, and that was when I got a super broken legendary boon. I started getting further when I stopped trying to rush chambers. I dash into bad less now.
I'm at maybe 30? now, and I'm getting to the end consistently now that I found a couple builds I really like aiming for
Theres a lot of power and stats you get from just playing and dying too. So theres also that. Contractor upgrades, aspects, nyx mirror, etc
and tools to help aim for specific builds you like instead of just relying on total RNG
novel wasp
the boon is determined and usually with FA is def gonna help you because you get more boon room in the process
obol rooms are kinda low priority
spring lava
you can use a keepsake to determine the first boon though right?
brave thicket
yes
novel wasp
yes
brave thicket
but it is better not to do so
spring lava
why not? you can just swap the keepsake
brave thicket
well, imo i build on the gods i get in tartarus
novel wasp
so what is your choice of keepsake
spring lava
I like purse sometimes
novel wasp
if it were butterfly i would respect you
brave thicket
why
spring lava
if I just want to try something entirely new I go purse or the cerberus one
brave thicket
purse best starter
novel wasp
you can still gain purse advantage by getting 2 god boons in first two stages, go to elysium with purse
and then switch to something offensive in stage 4
brave thicket
stage 4 go defensive
novel wasp
or that
but there is 0 reason to start with a purse imho
consider god building will be more challenging yknow difficulty in later stages
its better to establish that first in easier stages like tartar or aspho
and theres no reason to keep purse for 2 stages
you gain the advantage for once and that is it
same goes for god keepsakes
brave thicket
it is better to let rng take its course in tartarus and then build god in the middle two
simpleton
novel wasp
simp i build hunting blades in stage 2
spring lava
Eh, I like getting my gods setup in tartarus if possible and then just build from there
So I like starting god keepsake and then switching after tartarus
brave thicket
well, i got aphro legendary in tartarus
brave thicket
....
spring lava
I love aphro legendary
novel wasp
compared to other gods aphro has easier legendary reach just saying
novel wasp
also good luck on guarantee on everytime getting tartar legendary
by totally not manipulating seeds 
novel wasp
also 1 duo boon is all i need to win runs imma be honest
some legendaries are good but they are optional for me
i would give that to the mercy of rngesus to see if i am worthy
brave thicket
uhh, shades are incorporeal
novel wasp
also i just checked boon tree, the 3 easiest reach legendaries are Dionysus the easiest, Poseidon 2nd and Aphro 3rd
try to build Artemis or Athena legendary with your method.., gl
brave thicket
novel wasp
anyway, I prefer Duo as they are usually easier to build and can be strong with or without legendary
more guarantee in a way, better if you got the pair in tartar without second intervention, also quickly establish your 4 gods
since you only get 4 gods + 1 Hermes + 1 Chaos to bless you in 1 run
You could also do some manipulation to get 5 gods by the time you reach styx to get 36% damage increase in family talent but thats too niche in its own right
and no the damage increase does not include Chaos as one of the gods so at best you get 30% for each run if you do it normally
lethal fog
its 6% per god, I usually get over 30% from it
brave thicket
actuallyitisa6%pergod
tropic bloom
Is there a boon or hammer that doubles the damage you deal ?
tropic bloom
like a legendary or epic some boon that doubles all the damage you deal ? Maybe not cast
novel wasp
tbh hammer are just making you good at murdering
No
also if you really want raw damage
meet nude mom ala Aphro
she has the biggest raw damage
tropic bloom
I mostly take aphro + chaos + ares
novel wasp
or artemis
tropic bloom
whats that ?
sorry I've only made is past hydra and that too this run that I'm in rn
novel wasp
its a mirror talent that increase damage by 25% if the enemy has two debuff on them
tropic bloom
Oh, I've yet to unlock 20keys one
solemn igloo
yeah we could stream hades
solemn igloo
and laugh at people who pick bad boons
brave thicket
no laffing
novel wasp
watch me beat hades with only whites
brave thicket
ew racist
limpid root
. >
novel wasp
<w<
novel wasp
EXCALIBRUH
limpid root
i know
novel wasp
pure zeus is excruitiating to play
brave thicket
pure zeus is good you idiot
limpid root
^<
novel wasp
even in purple
limpid root
i only go for demeter
brave thicket
tho it needs a demeter
limpid root
because she cool
brave thicket
yeah pure zeus is shockingly bad
limpid root
cough cough
novel wasp
ive been recording a bunch of footage of a modded run which the god keepsake has unlimited proc
limpid root
i want to die but i want to beat so i can get more titan blood
novel wasp
basically, pure artemis, pure athena
etc etc
and boi pure zeus left a dent in my brain
brave thicket
pure athena is good
limpid root
.>.
novel wasp
i mean obv
brave thicket
make a tier list
novel wasp
pure hermes
novel wasp
too bad you dont get the hermes keepsake that procs him
solemn igloo
How does pure zeus even work
limpid root
for dodge?
brave thicket
pure hermes is terrible
novel wasp
AMAZON PRIME BOY
solemn igloo
pure hermes goes zoom zoom
novel wasp
Obviously
brave thicket
no damage at all
novel wasp
you need demeter's aspect of f i s t
solemn igloo
I think pure dionysis would be prettyt bad as well
novel wasp
because im making videos
titled Nerf series
currently we have Nerf Athena, Nerf Artemis, Nerf Aphrodite, Nerf Demeter, Buff Zeus
brave thicket
link pls
novel wasp
because pc is crying
limpid root
xd
novel wasp
until 28th i will upload all of them 😄
limpid root
yt?
novel wasp
still in progress
limpid root
lol
novel wasp
I got the footage
limpid root
let me at the channel
limpid root
I'll copyright strike all of them xd
novel wasp
you cant
limpid root
;^;
novel wasp
its a meme montage so
limpid root
my editing software crashes all the time so i edit no more
for zues can u just like
have 30 seconds of nothing but ingame sounds
and struggling
limpid root
human
novel wasp
because as if my pfp isnt obvious enough
novel wasp
yours werent when it was butts
limpid root
xd
limpid root
they told me to change it
novel wasp
i actually blocked you before because of that
limpid root
i dont really notice pfp's because i have the compact discord
novel wasp
honestly i thought you are some creepy sex offender when you have that pfp
novel wasp
it isnt when you were the one who made others uncomfortable with that pfp
anyway, thats in the past
novel wasp
honestly a thumbnail of nerf athena would be great if its like the tom cruise laughing collage
but its athena
or the stop deflecting or take 25 and athena takes 25 which can be done with poorly made image stamping
novel wasp
its raining men
novel wasp
i dont mind really
novel wasp
wdym
novel wasp
yes thats chaos realm but i dont understand
its either im drunk
or you are
just send pics
novel wasp
... you can just said in the codex god damn your explanation is terrible
and yes it is a hidden realm
but you can only access it once you have purchased something in the contractor
i dont want to spoil you but its similar to chaos realm
alpine yacht
OK, 24th attempt and fought daddyo...now I just need to beat him
calm laurel
undiscovered eh...
alpine yacht
should i trade ambriosa for blood early-on? are either of them limited in quanitity?
novel wasp
early heats are beatable without companions
you can do that, but once you find your favorite companion, save 10 of them
so you can get it max level without hassle
novel wasp
battie and mort are okay, but i love bouldy
heat are modifiers to make this game harder, however each point of the heat will give you a reward similar to when you beat the whole game's reward, for example tartar give you blood, aspho gives diamond, elysium gives ambrosia
alpine yacht
alright
novel wasp
and the progress are different in every single weapons so you can gain a lot of bloods
alpine yacht
so best not trade my ambriosa for blood
novel wasp
if you are desparate you could always do that
alpine yacht
nah
novel wasp
some requires a lot of blood and you gained so many ambrosia anywya
alpine yacht
seems i got some grind ahead of me for all those nectars to start unlocking comps
novel wasp
so all weapons are heat 0 for you?
alpine yacht
i just got to papa H on my 24th attempt
so no clue what any of that means 😄
died there
novel wasp
if you havent beat the game with the weapon i call it heat 0 because it makes sense to me
so yes, all weapons are heat 0 for you as of now
alpine yacht
makes sense
novel wasp
but with 6 weapons you can grind 6 ambro
you can def get a lot of ambro and you only need 1 ambro if you dont care about stories, and just want the companion
so you need total of 11 ambrosia to just level up a companion to max, the 1 ambrosia is to get them
but yes unlock more gamechanging mechanic such as bounty honey, mo gems to pimp so you can get dat honey super fast
alpine yacht
haha yea, can't believe how much depth there's in this game already
alpine yacht
is Aphrodite worth romancing (companionwise)?
alpine yacht
oh? thought u can give her extra juice for a companion/romance
novel wasp
No
novel wasp
they dont give you any companion
kindred onyx
if she breathe
novel wasp
god that sounds way worse
kindred onyx
IF SHE BREATHE
novel wasp
LEMME DELETE IT
kindred onyx
i don't like her
novel wasp
Mato you cant bait me
kindred onyx
her buffs and personality are so bad
alpine yacht
but love conquers all
novel wasp
aphro abuses priviledge status hardcore
kindred onyx
Oh, I'm very bad. 🍅 🗡️
novel wasp
dio will be extremely good if it does not wear off so quickly
kindred onyx
dio is a hunk
novel wasp
also not gimping your other ability
kindred onyx
ice wine is great
novel wasp
meanwhile demeter + aphro = having reliable debuff while still provide percentage damage
also abuse dat priviledge status
ice wine is great yea
good thing it doesnt involve dio attack or special
its just cast, and is actually the best part of dio's boon tbh lol
kinda wish demeter and aphro will have duo
kindred onyx
but they hate each other
kindred onyx
i'll love him
worthy egret
Charon and Than sorta do talk w Hermes and stuff
novel wasp
i still yet to see any gods call aprho ditzy airhead
worthy egret
Idk if its friends level but i like to think it is
novel wasp
i wonder if we will get them
also aphro is surprisingly young despite she is almost the same generation as og olympians
but if we are getting wrinkly grandma? then no
kindred onyx
she just looks young
kindred onyx
isn't it in some lore
worthy egret
Hermes: soanywaytodaywheniwasfeliveringthesoulsisawlikeoneofthiseshades?theydidntwannadie!soannyoingmydudemymanmymachomancouldyoubelieve
Charon: hrrrrr
Hetmes: dude you GET me
novel wasp
out with your degeneracy
brave thicket
aphro is canonically older than olympians
kindred onyx
the doggess of seasons dying and birthing again in spring?
novel wasp
doggess
brave thicket
doggess
novel wasp
🐶
i mean
is dyno wonky?
it doesnt delete the message on my screen
but i cant delete it myself either
brave thicket
i swear to gods a lot
novel wasp
also @worthy egret Hermes be singing in that eminem rap
worthy egret
He can do the fast part in rap god
novel wasp
top 10 rappers that eminem fear
worthy egret
Thank god there is no text speed settings, otherwise he would be like N from pokemon
novel wasp
Hermes AMAZON PRIME BOY
worthy egret
Zag, texting: hey hermes do you have anxiety prime
Zag: oh damn sorry amazon prime
Hermes: sure man i got both
novel wasp
hes teh definition of millenial
still relevant today, and isnt paid enough when doing his job
vapid grove
Do the devs already know about the bug where you sell your boons and you don't get gold back?
or should I report it somewhere?
novel wasp
vapid grove
260 worth of gold
gone
And on an already terrible run too :c
oh nvm found it thanks
@novel wasp Didn't know you were telling me to hit it XD
void vigil
do you happen to have a chaos curse?
if you have the one where you cant earn gold, you wont get any gold from selling boons
but otherwise it is a bug
vapid grove
oh probably lol @void vigil thank you
fresh heart
I have a question about ||favors||
how do you activate them? Like how do you know what to do and when to do it
tacit sparrow
whose?
unique igloo
I was chatting with a buddy about the game and he mentioned that zagreus sounds like he would be best friends with pit from kid icarus while also being severly disappointed in every other conversation with him...now I can't stop thinking of that
tacit sparrow
@fresh heart I'll put it in the spoilers channel, alright
alpine yacht
What's the mini-scenes when I start an escape? "skulk" and so on
They change the run?
livid cargo
Just flavor
tacit sparrow
and also gives you extra insight on Zag's relationship with Dad
alpine yacht
Thanks
abstract fable
hot take
last words (thanatos theme) is the best song on the soundtrack
this may or may not be a hot take i haven't actually seen it mentioned anywhere
tacit sparrow
god ur absolutely right
abstract fable
heck yeah
abstract fable
i listen to many game soundtracks regularly but my man darren korb keeps me coming back to supergiant games
too bad it's hard to focus on last words in-game because of the mad rush to kill the enemies before than does
tacit sparrow
ok but that than bell sound effect in general has to be one of the most satisfying things in game
abstract fable
yeah i love it
tacit sparrow
when he FINALLY shows up after like 5 runs... when you clear a room with the Pierced Butterfly
tacit sparrow
uh I don't recall him reacting
although I don't think Meg reacts to the Skull Earring either
abstract fable
dang
even hecking theseus reacts to the yarn
guess they're gonna add those later
tacit sparrow
although I love that Zag has lines for Pierced Butterfly
especially the ||Sorry Than|| one is just 
abstract fable
i should really use more keepsakes than charon/eurydice/whoever god i want (usually artemis tbh)
tacit sparrow
I use the Blood Vial a lot
Ares is my favorite god because that doom satisfaction yanno
abstract fable
doom is cool
i like the lil sword of damocles reference
merciful end is a very fun combo too
funny how they're both the god of war too
tacit sparrow
I can't wait for more gods to get that extended affinity gauge thing
iron plaza
anyone know how you can tell when you've played the lyre melodically? I heard you need to play it until you do so "melodically" or "well" but I'm tone-deaf so I can't really tell. I used to think it was when Zag said something but he's stopped doing that in the last several runs.
tight axle
I think it takes over 200 interactions, and Zag will say "that's music" and it will be of a longer length that the practice tries. Even when you've reached that I believe you still need to have some conversations with Orpheus before the quest completes
iron plaza
Yeah, but I saw someone say that it takes 200 interactions wherein Zag plays "melodically" before that trigger, so it's not just using the lyre 200 times but actually playing it well 200 times before that. And I used to think that Zag said something after you did it right, but now he isn't doing that anymore and I still haven't gotten the prophecy
tight axle
Zag's comments are occasional and change based on how good he's gotten
I haven't completed the quest yet either but the improvement from the last stage is noticeable as it changes into a tiny cover of other songs in the game. I think the missing piece is just Orpheus
iron plaza
Hmm, weird. I haven't gotten Orpheus to talk to me for a while, maybe that's the last piece.
sharp parcel
@iron plaza you don't have to be musically gifted to tell the difference
tight axle
he has a handful of conversations where he gives Zag playing advice, so that's likely it
sharp parcel
it's the difference between a rock hitting a dumpster and actual music
also, Orpheus notes that you got better
mortal palm
this is probably better in spoilers :p
sharp parcel
oh, we're not in spoilers 
iron plaza
@sharp parcel That's my point. It all sounds the same now. I have actual tone-deafness and before I could tell because it was so off but now I can't and nothing else has changed
fresh heart
who's the best Hades player?
brisk trail
Hey, just read the FAQ where it said that Hades will be available on other platforms. With the understandment that reality trumps, is Linux on of these platforms?
sharp parcel
considering the fact that all the other SG games are on Linux, probably
modern garnet
SG linux ports came out months after the games were released on windows
brisk trail
I only played them on linux/, but didn't see it explicitly. I get developing games is difficult enough, but here's hoping. 🙂
modern garnet
i mean, sgg just gets some other guy to port the games to linux
they don't do it themselves to my understanding
mortal palm
on speedruns what I've generally seen is special ares for Doom, along with athena dash and the duo that makes doom instantly proc if hit with a deflecting attack
vapid grove
There has to be a guide or spreadsheet out there of the easiest->hardest punishments
per heat level
Any ideas?
Is it bad I don't know why Linux is?
brisk trail
It's an operating system
solemn igloo
its a hip hop operating system
proper birch
I am curious has anyone become addicted to playing Hades? In that the amount of hours a day exceeds ones normal gaming time and affects other activities that they would usually do.
Perhaps more pertaining to casual gamers
alpine stratus
hmmmmm hades is def the game ive put most hours into ever in my life but bc of external factors (i borrow, not own, a computer that can run it, and if i play too long it gives me WICKED headaches) im barred from going Too overboard....
but as for thinking abt the game/ making fancontent, while i wouldn't call it an addiction theres def been times when the obsession proved harmful to my mental/physical health.
brisk trail
I'm not addicted but I have almost 40 runs in a few days of getting it
brisk trail
ahahha demeters cast with the shield is so funny
i just put 3 laser sentries and guard up
First time I got her Cast Duo I paused the game and walked around the room cackling for 30 seconds.
solemn igloo
what is her cast duO+
brisk trail
Super tracking lasers with Artemis.
solemn igloo
nice
quaint bramble
Help me contextualize, lovely people. I really want to like Demeter’s cast but the damage seems so lacking. At epic level it takes 2.5 seconds to do the same damage as the basic cast and it’s less accurate thanks to terrible tracking. It feels like the cast just needs other upgrades to be viable as opposed to most other casts which are functional on their own.
Is is the damage of more than one firing at once that makes it work?
brisk trail
ok ty for teaching me about the duo cast
cuz it was useless vs moving bosses
for the first time i had withme 1500 for titan blood XD
worthy egret
I enter the shop with like 450 gold, 97% health and exclusive access
And it gives me no boons
😔
deep pivot
I wish I could have seen that cackling
hoary sandal
man I just completed my first Varatha run, and it was with Guan Yu aspect.
I thought it would be hard, but I got the right boons at the right time
olive tundra
hey, just joined to ask, if i get a cast duo boon and swap cast what happens?
brisk trail
You've wasted the Duo.
olive tundra
coolio
brisk trail
I guess you can always pawn it if it shows up in a Pool of Purging.
olive tundra
the cast related duo boons are worded in a kind of vague way for the most part
primal whale
On the flip side, if you sell one of the prereqs to that duo (as long as it's not the thing that makes the duo work, like trippy shot for ice wine or scintillating feast) the duo will still work
olive tundra
yeah i get that part
my thoughts would be either it's an override effect or a modifier of some sort
kind of a bummer it works that way tbh
regal junco
Hypnos best boy Athen best girl dont @ me
olive tundra
bouldy best boy
brisk trail
AW
chilly stump
Oh no!! Did a bug report window come up when it crashed?
limpid root
no
I crashed before that too
i dont know it freezes and puts me to my windows home
chilly stump
Does it launch right on opening?
Whatever the case, please feel free to send us an email at support@supergiantgames.com describing your issue. We can help direct for any information we might need to help figure out the cause. 👍
limpid root
it does launch right
but it doesnt save my progress
and I've done the same run 3 times
just to die at the top by him
D:
jolly lodge
doesn't save? I think I had that issue before, it was because my anti-virus was blocking it for attempting to make changes to my PC
if it's not that one then I don't know though
limpid root
I've removed my anti virus before
im not an idiot who downloads shady links so i wont need it much
but I'm not sure what it would cause to crash
but for the time I'll head off the game since I've been playing too much
chilly stump
If you have a chance next time nevada, please press while playing to bring up our bug reporter. Then you can describe your experience in the box that pops up and submit it so we can take a look at what the issue might be.
waxen ice
GUYS
I ALMOST KILLED THE FINAL BOSS WITH 3 HP FOR THE WHOLE OF PHASE 2 AND HALF OF PHASE 1
DAMMIT
i did SO WELL
dodging and blocking with the shield
i messed up one time and got caught on a pot
athena helped a lot too
limpid root
well played