#h1-discussion

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novel wasp
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this is me when i have 6 strikes on arthur sword

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Chaos is actually dancing when they see ya boi zag smackin dem 1000 damage per hit up there

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i need more chaos in my life thx

worthy egret
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PAY IN BLOOD

calm laurel
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🩸

delicate arrow
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Chaos is actually dancing when they see ya boi zag smackin dem 1000 damage per hit up there
@novel wasp all you need is an Arte crit

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Kekw

novel wasp
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@delicate arrow i get no luck in the boons thats why I get 6 strikes instead

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which is way mroe epic than getting just a arte crit

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virgin artemis vs chad chaos

warm oak
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Artemis is literally a virgin by choice so the meme kinda fails here.

hard rune
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Hey so

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When maxing out the Greater Reflex ability at the Mirror of Night

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should you be having 2 or 3 dashes?

brisk trail
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2

hard rune
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Cause I've had 2 dashes rather than 3 ever since the Elysium update I think it was

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But my friend just picked up the game again, not having played since before the Elysium update - and he has 3 dashes

brisk trail
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Oh if at some point it was 3 I don't know about it, but I've been here since the "Welcome to Hell" update, and it's been 2 dashes for me. If he has 3 dashes in his mirror, either he has not updated, or there's a glitch somewhere

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Like, I know you can edit saves to modify your mirror perks

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So maybe there's something with that

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Like, his mirror upgrade dash count not updating properly

hard rune
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heh

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That was our theory as well

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lucky him XD

brisk trail
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Yeah

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3 dashes at the start of a run sounds nutty

hard rune
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I miss those days

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Though I guess just 2 dashes give the early play the spice and challenge that it needs!

noble sage
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it uses to be 3

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but having 3 means you're even less prepared for Ruthless Dash!

hollow heron
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3 dashes was so long ago

night turret
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3 Dashes went away during the High Speed update.

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And I don't miss those times, cuz that dash sucks.

candid pike
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is it just me or does anyone else think the blade rift should move slower?

night turret
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With it's damage potential? No.

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It's like boons like Vortex and Hunting blades are powerfull for a reason.

warm palm
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Guys, is beating one of the sisters the only way to gain blood?

hollow heron
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You get blood each time you beat the first and fourth bosses for the first time on a specific heat level with each weapon

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You can also trade for it

warm palm
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wait whats heat level?

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I havent been to the fourth boss

hollow heron
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Once you get a clear, you unlock a pact that allows you to make the game harder

warm palm
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oh yeah havent cleared it yet

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I downloaded the game again yesterday

worthy egret
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You'll get there, best of luck!

warm palm
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the last time I played there were only two bosses

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sooooo

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I need to beat meg with a weapon that I havent

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?

hollow heron
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I'd recommend just trying to clear first

warm palm
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aight aight

hollow heron
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Learn all the new content

warm palm
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thank you!

hollow heron
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And a lot of the old stuff has changed as well!

warm palm
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Isnt the shield a little op?

hollow heron
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It's pretty good

warm palm
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I've been using that mostly

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but the fists are pretty cool as well

hollow heron
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Shield was my first melee clear

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After 6 ranged clears

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And it was a bull rush build that was basically ranged anyways

warm palm
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yeah I mostly go with bull rush or throw as well

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havent tried the ranged weapons much

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Do synergies like lets say

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I use the sword with the critical chance aspect and then pick artemis' boon

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so that I get 15% critical

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do those stack to a total of 30% critical lets say?

sturdy elbow
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i almost beat the game with the rail

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its really good with a few hammer upgrades

green carbon
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how do u unlock 4th aspect

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and also the guanyu n arthur aspect

red coral
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The only released fourth aspects are those two! To unlock them, ||keep talking to Achilles||

green carbon
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do all weapons hv both

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of just either one of them

noble sage
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each weapon has a unique 4th aspect

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currently only two of them are available

green carbon
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so

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each weapon has only 1

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but currently both of them r the 4th aspect of all weapons

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also on that link u just sent, is that how the crit works

noble sage
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no, two specific weapons have a 4th aspect, one being Arthur for the sword and Guan Yu for the spear

worthy egret
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Ive only beaten the game with shield so far

green carbon
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Crit Shorthand: Every 1% of crit you have increases your DPS by 2%. So 15% crit will increase your DPS by 30% total.

noble sage
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I don't think anything has changed in that regards so yes

green carbon
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is that how crit works ?

noble sage
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it's just explaining how critical attacks affect your DPS

green carbon
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so if it doesnt crit, its just a ded thing right

noble sage
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your average damage output if that makes sense

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yup

green carbon
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aight thx

noble sage
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you could high roll and have it crit all the time

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or low and have it not, but in general it'll be somewhere in between

candid pike
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anyone using stubborn defi?

noble sage
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I've been playing around with it

green carbon
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ive only cleared this game once tho smh

noble sage
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I like the idea of stubborn but it feels like it needs some tweaking to be even comparable to defiance

candid pike
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true

noble sage
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Athena defiance line makes no sense with stubborn

candid pike
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death defi is way better than stubborn defi but since there is that quest i have to finish with it :/

noble sage
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I wished it gained a stubborn defiance instead of replenishing

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I get why it works the way it does with death defiance

candid pike
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but if you added more charges to stubborn defi i think it would be way too strong

noble sage
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but stubborn defiance replenishment is redundant

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would it?

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you would beed to get athena boons

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only to make it a lesser version of death defiance for boss fights

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you're gaining 30% health instead of 50%

candid pike
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i mean if you added 2nd charge and be able to res 2 times every room

noble sage
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and you go into the next room with 30% health

candid pike
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and leaving with 30% or less

noble sage
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unless you're planning on dying every room or hell even every other room

candid pike
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i mean you could always die on the last minion

noble sage
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you're not dying enough on regular rooms to make it worth and even if you do, you come out worth for ware for boss fights

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yeah but then were you even going to make it through boss fights with 60% of your health?

candid pike
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probably not

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not the final boss at least

noble sage
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exactly

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there's not much point in surviving at that point

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One thing that could be cool is to give stubborn defiance a buff of somekind like Ruthless

green carbon
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did u guys actually manage to kill the final boss without dying

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just curious

candid pike
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nope but im not that good in the game xD

noble sage
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I've done it a couple of times

green carbon
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tf

noble sage
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mostly because cheasy builds x3

green carbon
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ah

candid pike
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i always choose whatever i like from boons not really looking into builds

green carbon
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i just got my first clear after like 15hrs jesus

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im so bad

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LOL

noble sage
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casts builds let's you do a lot once you get into the cat and mouse nature of them with bossed

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I like how the game caters to both possibilities

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whether you go head first into a build or cobble together something that works, it never feels like an unwinnable battle

candid pike
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true

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what are the chances i dont see Aph in 5 runs in a row?

noble sage
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depends on how much you rejected her

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xd

candid pike
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i get Ares, Artemis, Athena all the time xD

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oof xD

noble sage
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what's everyone's favourite gods for boons?

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mine have to say, Demeter is just so interesting

candid pike
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i like Demeter because i like wise old poeple xD thats why Gandalf and Dumbledore are my fav chracters xD

noble sage
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she has a lot of variety for me

candid pike
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but i like Dio because i feel like DoT effects are really good in any games

noble sage
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you could get rare crops, or snow burst. Her casts changes the way you play entirely and her chill is pretty nice

candid pike
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her call is pretty powerful too

noble sage
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how about least favourite?

candid pike
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Zeus´ call i think is really... blinding? every time i use it i just cant see anything

alpine silo
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Orphese didn’t show up at the house for a lot of run now. Is this bug? ||I currently have the contact to buy||

candid pike
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but i dont think i have any god im avoiding

noble sage
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for me, I'm really sad to say Poseidon's needs help

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he just feels low impact

candid pike
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i think it depends on what weapon you are using

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if you have event better knockback on shield and you just smack enemies into lava i think its pretty funny xD

noble sage
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no matter the weapon, it doesn't help with bosses

candid pike
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yeah i was about to say that

noble sage
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I like the reward idea

worthy egret
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Isnt there a poseidon boon that makes his knockbacks deal bonus damage to bosses

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Did i hallucinate that

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Im sure i saw it

noble sage
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there is but it's miniscule at best

candid pike
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i dont know since all my runs i see just Ares, Artemis and Athena i really dont remember other boons xD

worthy egret
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I felt like 30% is a lot

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I just had a run that was

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Zeus

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Zeus

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Zeus

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More zeus

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STOP GIVING ME ZEUS

candid pike
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i havent seen Zeus in looong time xD

noble sage
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his is the only status effect that doesn't work well on bosses

worthy egret
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Would be too funny if you splashed redacted and they just toppled over

noble sage
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I mean yeah 30% is a decent amount but compared to say Doom or Hangover? it's not much

valid citrus
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are special rooms just 50% chance btw? Any run where I don't end up with Eurydice is a failed run in my book

worthy egret
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Can i get a gps that lets me locate patroclus

candid pike
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i didnt get Eurydice in a while too

worthy egret
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Im a dumdumb and lose at least one defiance along the way like every time

candid pike
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i got Patroclus in every single run tho xD

worthy egret
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LUCKER

noble sage
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I get Eurydice every single time

worthy egret
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LU CK ER

noble sage
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that sweet sweet boon upgrade

valid citrus
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I get patroclus basically every run, no idea why

noble sage
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you know

worthy egret
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:(

noble sage
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I haven't seen Sissyphus in awhile

valid citrus
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but I prefer some gentle singer to some grumpy dude

candid pike
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i just met him in this run im doing rn

noble sage
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did you nectar to bouldy for good luck?

candid pike
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idk why but i see just Meg everytime

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nah im giving nectar to Patroclus because he is really sad

noble sage
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YOU MONSTER

candid pike
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also i want him and Achilles to have some fun stuff together if that is implemented in the game 😏

noble sage
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Failed run

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giving bouldy nectar is as essential as giving Cerberus pets >:(

candid pike
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Patroclus is in deep depression and you want me to give nectar to someone who is trying to move boulder?

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i give Cerb pets all the time

light night
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Bouldy believed in you

candid pike
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im just sad i can pet just one head :(( what other 2?

light night
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But I fear he was wrong

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The other 2 don't like pets

candid pike
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whaa??

light night
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We have to respect that

noble sage
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they don't like pets

candid pike
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nonsense

noble sage
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gotta have that personal space ya know

candid pike
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how they dont like pets?

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true :/

light night
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I think it's a voice line you can get while petting

noble sage
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there's 2 voicelines that mentioned this

candid pike
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also after my last run (i died on final boss because stupid mistakes) when i returned to House of Hades no one was home xD no Hades, no Achilles, no Hypnos, no Orpheus, no Meg

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just Nyx standing next to my room

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i didnt see Dusa either

floral timber
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Sounds like a bug, there's usually at least two or three for me lol

noble sage
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Than?

candid pike
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oh yeah i think Than was talking to Nyx

floral timber
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I haven't done this but does anyone know if you get extra loot from bosses if you overfill the heat gauge?

noble sage
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nope

candid pike
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speaking of Than, i just got him in this room xD

floral timber
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I feel like slowly climbing with each weapon is super slow :/

candid pike
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how do i get Than every single run?

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yeah i need more Titan blood and diamonds

noble sage
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how extra heat works is you get the reward from the current heat level up to whatever heat you're doing

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so doing 10 heat repeatedly while on 4 heat reward would get you 4, then 5, 6, ...10.

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except if you're on heat level 0 which is weird

floral timber
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Well I can't blame the devs for that I guess, it does make you play the game more

noble sage
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like you need to do the fists at heat level 0 first before pushing up the heat

candid pike
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Than just KS everyone :((

floral timber
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The strat is to ks him :^)

candid pike
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ik but he is oneshoting xD

floral timber
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I think it would be fun if you got rewarded for overfilling the heat gauge beyond your current reward level by a certain amount

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Is that just me?

candid pike
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it would make sense i guess? like "you are doing extra job so here extra rewards"

noble sage
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But we don't want to encourage people to make the heat gauge sad :c

normal wraith
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I mean, technically there is?

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There's skelly's stuff.

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Most of which will take forever to unlock if you tick up one heat at a time.

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There is also the realm of monsters.

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Which depending on the floor you need all the way up to 15 heat to unlock.

candid pike
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i like how im playing this game so often but make no progress xD

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im still at heat 1 because im bad and cant finish it

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i mean just 3 more weapons to go

normal wraith
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Ah, well hang in there.

candid pike
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slowly but surely xD

floral timber
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I suppose I never considered Skelly's stuff as an incentive for that, I just saw them as an incentive to tick the heat gauge one by one 🤔

normal wraith
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Eventually you'll get good enough at the game you'll be beating heat after heat.

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I mean you get 3 diamonds for unlocking the first one if my memory serves me correctly.

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3-5 diamonds for 1 run is a lot.

median eagle
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Question for you kind sirs XD

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I've looked online for how to unlock Guan Yu, and everyone just seems to say "Beat a run with the sword" and that's it

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I've beaten a run with a sword, have Zag aspect to 5 too

candid pike
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i dont have it yet but other kind sirs here told me to beat game and invest lot of blood into aspects

median eagle
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Also, I can't seem to level up Skelly anymore after giving him all the items, I am sitting on like 12-15 Ambrosia and nobody that'll let me use it on them =(

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hmm I wonder which?

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I've unlocked my shield Zeus aspect to 5, and picked up a few other random aspects to lv1 too

opaque nexus
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@median eagle to put it non-spoilery, just talk to people and eventually stories will progress and you can use it on some characters

candid pike
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|| they told me to invest blood to lot of aspects and then talk to Achilles||

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shoot did i just make a spoiler in non spoiler channel?

opaque nexus
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no

median eagle
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hmm eventually? Kind of seems... like it takes too long if you're suggesting there is dialogue backed up, I've talked to everyone every single run and am up to like 13 heat now mandatory =/

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lol I've done that =( consistently

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I even talk to Charon every run each time he pops up lol I only have a few people beyond 1-heart, but Dusa and Skelly are both sitting at full hearts with a lock on the next saying to increase their relationship before I unlock the next entry, but I can't increase them

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so basically I'm looking at progressing much faster than the game's story and I'm backlogged for X runs for no real reason?

candid pike
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i dont know you are way ahead of me in the game xD

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cant help sorry

median eagle
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hmm I wouldn't normally summon a dev, but it feels like that could be a design issue if players are being artificially held back, @pure hamlet you're the top of the list so I choose you XD Is there a way to speed up backlogged events? I've been talking to everyone I encounter each and every run, and (likely) satisfied the Achilles requirements for Guan Yu, but I can't seem to get him to mention anything about it--I also can't seem to use the stockpile of Ambrosia that I've amassed.

normal wraith
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From my personal experience, I beat the the game using the 3rd aspect of a weapon after having all of them unlocked. That typically added unlocking the hidden aspect into the eventual interactions I'd get form a character.

median eagle
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hmm.. I have 6 runs beaten with the shield's third aspect, fourth is still ????

opaque nexus
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only the sword and spear have third aspects

median eagle
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Is the default message just "Currently unavailable due to Ongoing Underworld Renovations" or is that suggesting I need some kind of specific renovations/quantity of them?

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Ahh, I was including aspect of Zag

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so like shield has Aspect of Zag, Chaos, Zeus--I've used Zeus, last slot is ????

opaque nexus
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yeah it's not in the game yet

long relic
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Hi guys, i wanted to ask you, i'm not sure if it's the right channel for my question but, is there any plan from the devs to add steam success in the game?

normal wraith
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Ongoing Underworld Renovations is code for: "It's not done yet."

median eagle
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So Arthur/Guan Yu are the included fourth aspects

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ahhh word ty

opaque nexus
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yes

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tbh I'm most excited to see what they do with the shield and the rail

median eagle
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so I'm okay on that front lol but I still haven't gotten the Arthur/Guan dialogues yet, and still no way to use my Ambrosias even though I have two npcs ready for them =(

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mmm agreed, I love the shield

opaque nexus
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shield is not for me

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but the fourth aspects are very different

long relic
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Shield is cool but i didn't used it that much, i'm more on my GUN

median eagle
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lol I'm the same about sword, I can go like 10x faster in a run but I just end up eventually squishing

long relic
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GUN GUN GUN and GUN again lmao

candid pike
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i feel like shield is too good

long relic
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with some short attack range upgrade and posseidon knockback

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pure poetry

median eagle
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I liked the gun, but each time I tried it I would find myself only really looking for two routes: special spam, or dash + no ammo Daed

opaque nexus
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John Wick Aspect

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for rail

long relic
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The problem of the gun is that i rly feel it more rng dependent than every other weapon

opaque nexus
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nah guan yu is very rng dependent

long relic
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(i didn't use many of the other but it's my impression)

opaque nexus
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hestia is rng dependent but eris not as much

median eagle
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hestiasama

long relic
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I can got a run with enormous amount of dmg and then get strugle to move forward cause of the lack of dmg (sry my english is rly aproximative)

flint fossil
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Rail is the single most consistent weapon for completing runs imho

long relic
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Hestia is the aspect wich grant you power attack when u reload?

flint fossil
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Even with poop boons you can just dodge everything

opaque nexus
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Forge what do you think of the fist and arthur

flint fossil
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Both good

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None of them are top tier but they don't need to be

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I enjoy all of them a lot

opaque nexus
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arthur with hermes attack is beautiful

flint fossil
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Arthur is so tanky its absurd

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Only Guan Yu makes my 32 heat runs this easy

opaque nexus
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20% attack speed shaves off a lot

flint fossil
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Yeah def

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I just wish sword hammers were better

opaque nexus
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cursed slash with arthur is really good

flint fossil
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Its okay

median eagle
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I'll get there eventually 😅 but first I have to find out what the deal is with unlocking them -__-

flint fossil
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I just avoid hammers when I use Excalibur

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More likely to make the run more awkward than help

opaque nexus
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I wanted a big heavy weapon and I got it

flint fossil
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It smacks

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Hard

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Feels good

opaque nexus
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bro the final hit has like 200 base damage

flint fossil
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Yeah its absurd lmao

opaque nexus
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that's more than hestia at max rank

median eagle
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does daedelus hammer for sword's thrust damage increase affect that last hit too?

flint fossil
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You know you can pace it so that it becomes your dash attack too, right? @opaque nexus

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@median eagle You can't get that hammer for Excalibur

opaque nexus
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what

flint fossil
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Yeah

median eagle
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oh

flint fossil
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You can pace your swings so that any part of the combo is your dash attack Cinder

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Its great

opaque nexus
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so does that work with artemis dash

flint fossil
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Not sure

long relic
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Wich aspect u prefer on the sword?

opaque nexus
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probably not lol

flint fossil
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I don't know if its actually being considered the dash attack for % purposes

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I should test it later

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@long relic Poseidon

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Though they nerfed it into the dirt its still my fave

long relic
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what it does?

opaque nexus
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a lot of the new mirror things seem underpowered

median eagle
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lol that sounded the most fun

opaque nexus
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dark regen is busted tho

flint fossil
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Makes casts deal 50% more damage and specialing enemies makes them drop casts

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Poseidon is legit

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They had to absolutely curbstomp it to dethrone it

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5:51 speedruns rip

median eagle
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what seems to be everyone's favorite shield? Is Zeus an obvious shoe-in?

flint fossil
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Zeus shield is totally boring

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God I hate it

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Its so bad too

median eagle
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lol

opaque nexus
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I think shield as a whole is boring

flint fossil
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Chaos Shield is the most powerful aspect in the game again after Poseidon Sword got nerfed

long relic
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I didn't finished the game once, got a lot of time too the final boss but i don't manage to pass it, the second phase kick my ass out in the palace lol

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so i don't have a lot of titan blood

median eagle
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mmm for the shotgun effect?

flint fossil
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Not just the shotgun effect, its ability to spread Doom to all enemies

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And Explosive Return

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Its just overall extremely powerful

median eagle
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ahhh that does make sense

opaque nexus
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doom special is fun ig

flint fossil
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Like shield has ranged attack, block, movement attack, burst, etc

opaque nexus
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very interested in what the 4th aspect for shield will be

median eagle
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I prefer Zeus aspect with Athena special deflect

flint fossil
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Its just extremely solid

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People really like Zeus but I get bored really easily with it

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Its just so slow

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Not my cup of tea I guess

long relic
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if i'm correct before finishing the game the only way to got titan blood is to reach the first boss and beat her with all the weapon to get one blood per equipement right?

median eagle
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Yeah, that part is true, wish I were better with sword etc because the speed difference is intense

flint fossil
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@long relic That and the broker, yes

opaque nexus
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fists seem... okay

flint fossil
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And extremely rare fishing spots in Chaos's room

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Fists are good, they're just not top tier Cinder

opaque nexus
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also I had people legit tell me nemesis is the best weapon at one point

flint fossil
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Very happy with the fists

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idk why they nerfed the kick hammer tho

long relic
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yes i got the fishroad yesterday, but didn't restart the game since

opaque nexus
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because it's good for speedruns

flint fossil
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it wasn't even impressive

opaque nexus
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I don't get how nemesis makes 32 heat easy

flint fossil
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@opaque nexus Nemesis was the best aspect a looong time ago

opaque nexus
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no like people told me that this week

flint fossil
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Nemesis is good, but its not fast enough for speedruns atm

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Outside of 32 heat if you just manmode it

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But then any aspect is if you know what you're doing since those times were so high and people haven't adapted to 32 heat yet

median eagle
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timer is likely the last heat I'll start picking up considering I'm all for Zeus lol

flint fossil
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Last update Poseidon Sword outclassed all other weapons by a mile, and this update Chaos Shield and possibly Rail are the best weps

opaque nexus
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agreed about the zeus shield thing btw

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too slow

long relic
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Just for fun how many ennemy u killed on all you'r try XD?

flint fossil
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If people enjoy it, then that's good at least

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That's whats important

opaque nexus
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can we get a hades aspect that does something btw

flint fossil
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For spear?

opaque nexus
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yes

flint fossil
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Yeah its... not good

opaque nexus
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like considering who it's based off of, it's pretty uninspired

flint fossil
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I should specify that spear as a base weapon is good

opaque nexus
#

y'know, one of the main characters

flint fossil
#

But the Hades aspect just does nothing for it

opaque nexus
#

someone suggested that they get rid of the spin attack and change the normal attack to a combo that ends in a spin

median eagle
#

It'd be kind of neat to see it replace your cast with the skulls or something

flint fossil
#

I think they should just make it not about spins at all since Guan Yu covers that very well

median eagle
#

just to change up style lol

opaque nexus
#

or changing the special to a ||homing skull|| or ||change the spin attack to a charged laser||

flint fossil
#

That would be sick

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I would be so down

opaque nexus
#

second one is probably the best bet

median eagle
#

I'd be down mainly because I prefer playing at-range lol

long relic
#

Is there a way to know if you got the titan blood and other items from the bosses with each weapon?

median eagle
#

When you start the run with that weapon is the only way I know of so far

long relic
#

sad XD

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well going to use all of them

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so

median eagle
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Don't take my word for it though lol I'm only a couple days old

long relic
#

I didn't notice an other way so

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guess you'r right no matter you'r only a couple days old

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and i'm not that old too

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i have less than 20 hours

median eagle
#

I leave the game running so I have no idea how many hours lol but I do see I have 39 runs, many of which were super fails when I started lol

tight obsidian
#

hm demeter notes that hestia and hera have some sort of conflict with the olympians... dunno if this sgg saying they're deconfirmed or just explaining why they're not helping zag yet

long relic
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i'm on my 28th

candid pike
#

i think someone said Hestia and Hera are busy

tight obsidian
#

demeter says hestia and hera have some quarrel with "her foster brothers," so zeus, hades, and poseidon specifically

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but im not sure how to interpret sgg's purpose of including this line

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also demeter confirmed killing her parents rip hyperion and theia 😔

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well actually she only specified hyperion so idk about theia

small yarrow
#

I apparently punched the last boss so hard my game crashed

tight obsidian
#

lmao

small yarrow
#

It was so sad though, that run was good

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+180% Damage on Both Dash-Strike and Special because of Chaos

candid pike
#

oof xD

small yarrow
#

As I said

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I punched him so hard he decided he did not want it anymore

tight obsidian
#

did you kill him and then it crashed?

small yarrow
#

Nope

tight obsidian
#

oof

#

i think that would be worse tbh

small yarrow
#

On his last threshold though

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I wish the game brought you back to the last saved point of the run

#

I wouldn't mind having to kill the Satyrs again

tight obsidian
#

you ever wonder if like the satyrs have their own culture and stuff and we're just exterminating them cause we don't like them and find the stuff they do weird

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sometimes i wonder

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but also shooty shooty

candid pike
#

i like how when you defeat final boss he´s like "how dare you?!?" and when he defeats you he is like "you think you are superior to me?" i mean, i killed you like 3 times already chill

harsh geode
#

does the kitchen have a purpose yet?

mossy knot
#

Passing the time.

young smelt
#

there's a minor type of item you can give the chef for small rewards later on ☺️

#

unless you mean more than that, I haven't seen anything

novel wasp
#

it has a hidden aspect of sword

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the aspect of kitchen knife

young smelt
#

huge damage bonus against onions,

novel wasp
#

you mean numbskulls

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they look like onions to me

long relic
#

Well will know soon if i can manage final boss with the shield XD

novel wasp
#

ok but fr tho if there will be new miniboss variant for the tartarus

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I want a giant numbskull

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and just call it 4head

long relic
#

on the second try with shield it will be hard

novel wasp
#

maybe not a 4head part but the giant numbskull sounds fine

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or maybe a giant numbskull pile and has big hp and keep summon a lot of numbskulls

young smelt
#

mega numbskull pile that summons other numbskull piles....

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pyramid scheme for numbskulls

novel wasp
#

Payment in not full

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bunch o 4heads

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tbh sword in high heat in all variants are kitchen knife level of useless

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I like numbskulls

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because they have the most visible reaction when you break their precious armor

harsh geode
#

oh cool, I was thinking that well, you know how we get burritos. If we gave the chef ingredients other more appetizing food could spawn in the world

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thats all

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like burritos give 10 and idk ughhh lava soup gives 12 or something

crimson void
#

Those are pitas...

brisk trail
#

@novel wasp They look so shocked and offended. "Sir!"

hallow geyser
#

Has anyone seen fishing spots in the ||waters around the final boss fight||?

harsh geode
#

@crimson void now i feel stupid

west chasm
#

What weapon is the best for Flamewheels so that i can play nothing but it for the rest of my life

crimson void
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Bow

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Actually, probably shield

brisk trail
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Rail.

west chasm
#

Those are too mamy options

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I cannot think that fast

young smelt
#

seconding rail!

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attack and special are both good for em

knotty epoch
#

Fun fact: if you don't play, you won't see any flamewheels ever

young smelt
#

why live if you're just gonna die

west chasm
#

Idk tho

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Erebus too hard

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I barely play at 5 heat after 20 hours

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I really do suck

young smelt
#

there's always someone worse, I haven't even unlocked heat stuff yet

green carbon
#

how do u succeed in fishing

west chasm
#

Press E when the bait sinks @green carbon

green carbon
#

ic

west chasm
#

Also this isn't told but

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The longer the bait remains submerged, the higher chance for a rarer fish you get

green carbon
#

been waiting for 2 mins

west chasm
#

I mean eventually the fish flees

green carbon
#

the thing hasnt went down

river socket
#

it's the opposite actually

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the faster u catch it the higher chance of rarer fish

quaint bramble
#

In my experience the bait will bob 0-3 times, then it will fully submerge and though I haven’t seen it personally there will be a small flash of light on the sinker that will indicate a higher chance of catching a rare fish. You shouldn’t have been sitting there for that long with no interaction though. Might be bugged or might have already triggered.

green carbon
#

i mean i went to the toilet so

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LOL

brisk trail
#

Then you missed it.

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It will happen in a moment, just be on the lookout for the next one.

river socket
#

yea after a couple secs it comes back up and never sinks again

green carbon
#

nah fk it

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time to sleep

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LOL

long relic
#

witch aspect do you prefer on sword?

#

zagreus and nemesis seems pretty cool

dark cradle
#

Nemesis is ❤️

brisk trail
#

Nemesis has arguably the best damage in the entire game.

civic prism
#

I prefer Zag bow but meh

novel wasp
#

Memesis

brisk trail
#

I love Zagreus bow, too, but Nemesis is just harder hitting. You're trading the safety of range for mad deeps.

long relic
#

There was the poss too but idk the interest of the bonus if you play with the upgrade from the miror (witch i do to stack stone on opponent)

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dk if i write it well

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but have to admit that if you combine the nem aspect with some artemis crit upgrade

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can be pretty angry

dark cradle
#

Nemesis with virtually any attack boon and you're square.

brisk trail
#

Heartbeak Strike, Deadly Flourish. Built-in Heart Rend.

vast junco
#

nemesis doesn't have an inherent boost to critical damage so you'd still need to try and nab heart rend in typical fashion after getting those former two

ember oak
#

Hi! Question, have any one had a problem with the gift of song on the fated list? I played that lyre in-between 50+ runs.

vast junco
#

you need to play it a lot

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you can keep plinking away at it to make progress, doesn't have to be once between runs

vale acorn
#

Time to watch youtube and mash e for an hour

dark cradle
#

Yeah it's a random number but it's usually anywhere from 200 - 250 times you need to play it

vale acorn
#

Good lord thats a lot

dark cradle
#

I just did it 25 times each run

ember oak
#

Wow, thats a alot. Good to know. Ill keep at it ;D

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I thought that 1 time in-between each run would be enough. And after you played it for 20-30h you would be done. But it would take me to x-mas 😅

vale acorn
#

I wish there was a ways to proc story events, been waiting for like 25+ runs to get the last interaction for sisyphus' companion

vast junco
#

it took me a ton of new nyx events to finally get to aspect of arthur

dark cradle
#

Yeah, or it'd be nice if SGG placed events you're actively pursuing at the top of the event queue so you aren't stuck watching like 10 dialogues before you can actually do it.

brisk trail
#

Hold up, did you just say Heart Rend and Nemesis with the highest Attack boost in the game wasn't enough?

dark cradle
#

I guess I just said the same thing as you did but with extra steps.

vast junco
#

uh, no? you said built-in heart rend, which nemesis does not have

vale acorn
#

Every character is processing the dialogue for "oh you're dating 3 people"

brisk trail
#

Heart Rend spawns when you have Deadly Strike/Flourish and a Heartbreak Strike/Flourish/Passion Dash.

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Obviously you need to get RNG to spawn Heart Rend.

vast junco
#

yes, it does. built-in implies inherent. already present

brisk trail
#

That is literally every run and I'm tired of having to spell out that RNG affects runs every time.

vast junco
#

you are hugely and willingly misinterpreting what i've said but okay man. you don't have to spell out anything because what i've been saying has nothing to do with that, thanks

vale acorn
#

Heart rend does whay exactly?

vast junco
#

boosts critical damage by 50% on those afflicted by weak

brisk trail
#

50% multiplicative boost to crit damage on Weak enemies.

vale acorn
#

Ohh that one

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Feels like Artemis is strong on every weapon

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Either crit for high base damage or the support fire

brisk trail
#

She is.

dark cradle
#

Art is best girl

vast junco
#

having a fully kitted artemis run is fun, fast, and very effective

dark cradle
#

I love getting Support Fire when I have Flurry on Sword.

mellow vessel
#

Or with fists

tawny patio
#

She's even better with the new Family Favorite talent. I always feel like it's hard to make use of Privileged Status with a full on Artemis build

mellow vessel
#

Chain lightning support fire splitting bolt 😍😍😍

dark cradle
#

Oh yeah Support Fire on fists is too good.

#

ORAORAORAORAORAORAORA

tight obsidian
#

how much was support fire dmg wise when it was a legendary?

#

i wonder how it compared

mellow vessel
#

I don’t remember exactly but I think it was like 25-30?

brisk trail
#

25?

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No, it may have been 15.

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The issue was that when it and Fully Loaded first swapped you could Pom it up to 25-30 very quickly.

cursive idol
#

Can you only get 4 hearts on gods? I gave 4 nectar to Poseidon and now the 5th heart has a spinning circle with a clock symbol.

#

Further when do you encounter Demeter? Is that far into the story? Haven't encountered her once yet, been in Elysium but not yet beyond.

brisk trail
#

Those clocks mean the content has not been implemented yet, a heart with a keyhole means you need to progress in the story.

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I'm not 100% sure about Demeter, but I think you need to beat the final boss once.

cursive idol
#

Ah ok I got a heart with a keyhole for Dusa :3

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If you defeat Hades the first time, do you keep your hearts for characters after that?

mellow vessel
#

@cursive idol spoilers

sharp parcel
#

@cursive idol do you mean in the Codex?

cursive idol
#

Yeah in the codex

sharp parcel
#

yeah, those persist between runs

cursive idol
#

Awesome :3

merry harbor
#

Just need to reach the final boss, beating them is not required!

deep pivot
#

Zag just needs to know how snow looks like squirtyay

flat vapor
#

@cursive idol for demeter, you just need to reach the final boss once, not necessarily win

cursive idol
#

It is fun to see the interactions when giving nectar to folks and it does make me curious what they will do/say when you keep giving them stuff so it's nice to hear that, that continues after you reached the final boss.

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That you not perse have to start over on someone or someone else XD.

sudden pike
#

it continues, don't worry

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you wont lose any progress

cursive idol
#

And thanks for the hint on when/how you encounter Demeter :3 .

merry harbor
#

Yeah, beating the final boss is just the... not the START of the game opening up, but a lot of stuff lies beyond that. So it's always worthwhile to keep going!

cursive idol
#

I am a mythology geek and my top 5 fav Greek gods in order are Demeter, Poseidon, Apollo, Hestia, Eros XD.

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And it's cool that the story continues at that point Silvaria :3 .

sudden pike
#

a shame only two are in the game lmao

cursive idol
#

Hestia got mentioned once I think :p . Think Achilles said that she also put on the fists of Malpheon once what was surprising or something :p.

sudden pike
#

hestia might also be an aspect?

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not sure

cursive idol
#

We have to see if they are gonna put in all the olympians but if so Hephaestus and Apollo remain and Hestia was a olympain but gave her seat to Dionysus pretty much :p

#

The god designs in this game are pretty cool, detailed, refreshing and authentic btw :3 .

sudden pike
#

cant wait till charon gets his update

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the silhouette looked dope

stiff trellis
#

Hestia is a rail aspect

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Eris is also a rail aspect

quaint bramble
#

Yes, Hestia has her name referenced in the second rail aspect I think. Eris, the goddess of disharmony also does, Eros does not, probably because Aphrodite already fulfills the love deity role in the game’s lore. Hoooo boi I’d love to see an Apollo Olympian in-game or at least an aspect or consumable or something. The pantheon feels incomplete without him.

cursive idol
#

Nemesis and Chiron are also aspects.

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It surprised me when they added a Guan Yu aspect, a Chinese general who due to his deeds got deityfied XD.

merry harbor
#

Yeah! The fourth aspects are super neato! Shows that the game isn't limited to only Greek mythos for the weapons.

quaint bramble
#

Yeah it seemed bizarre at first but now that we’ve learned more about where and when legendary aspects come from I love the game design space that might get explored now.

stiff trellis
#

Ngl

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I'm really looking forward to the next future aspects

sudden pike
#

all i want is something native american

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for the bow probably

stiff trellis
#

I'm still guessing it's that persian hero

quaint bramble
#

Those both sound dope.

#

I just want something that affects the special without kinda needing the Daedalus hammer upgrade for more special arrows to feel whole.

low leaf
#

i would like to see a bladed bow concept melee right click

sudden pike
#

sounds like it'd be too weak

#

and why use that when you can just use stygius

low leaf
#

different ways of mix and matching

quaint bramble
#

Yeah or something in the vein of the Bastion galleon mortar, with a special that brings down an arrow that can still powershot if held while aiming enough.

#

Anyone else remember the galleon mortar mastery challenge in Bastion? Raining fire on the little gasbag things.

verbal lotus
#

I finally made it to the 4th area and Charon is selling boons for 500,450 and 150

#

Is it just upgraded rarity?

sudden pike
#

uh

#

pretty much

#

just buy the cheap ones

verbal lotus
#

Yeah that's what I did

calm laurel
#

Guys

#

Thana-toes

novel wasp
#

Thana toast

nimble ocean
#

Then a toast

alpine stratus
#

🥂

mellow vessel
#

I like a long speech better than a toast

alpine stratus
#

than anime style running late to a death pickup with a slice of thanatoast in his mouth

novel wasp
#

🍞

#

Athena be like: 🔃

worthy egret
#

Bold of you to assume Zag wouldn't be the protag running to class late with toast in his mouth

#

How does than even run

#

Turbo levitation

quaint bramble
#

He just pops in late with a shader that turns the room green

#

Zag would just dash through the closed door

novel wasp
#

Nah

#

he just get hermes to help him dash 6 times in a row

worthy egret
#

WITH A SHADER THAT TURNS THE ROOM GREEN

novel wasp
#

Thanatos' Minecraft Shader

#

You need 2080ti for dat

floral belfry
#

It's just thanatos using the timates stonates

crimson void
#

Do you think we'll get boss music for bosses other than the final one?

worthy egret
#

... Don't we already have those

crimson void
#

Theseus and asterius just sounds like the generic Elysium combat music

proud orbit
#

they have different instruments playing

lilac bronze
#

im so bad with every weapon that isnt the bow lmao

#

how do i even use melee weapons idk

floral belfry
#

same

#

I beat a run with the shield too

#

fists/spear/sword I suck

#

😳 phrasing

mellow vessel
#

@lilac bronze that’s how my husband feels lol, he doesn’t understand how I can like the sword

tight obsidian
#

i neglect all weapons but the bow lmaooooooooooo

mellow vessel
#

... phrasing

tight obsidian
#

:shakingeyes:

#

i suck with the sword ;_; i just wanna do all the prophecies with the sword and then never touch it lol

mellow vessel
#

I think it’s necessary to enjoy chaos (not the character) to some extent

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I like dashing around willy billy slashing at things

#

Nilly

#

Lol autocorrect

tight obsidian
#

that is very fair

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however: i am coward

mellow vessel
#

Yeah he always runs with the butterfly keepsake so... sword does not appeal to him

#

You have to accept getting smacked in the face sometimes if you run with the sword

tight obsidian
#

i get smacked in the face too much with the bow :p it only gets worse with every other weapon

#

funnily enough i am using stygius rn

mellow vessel
#

I prefer Poseidon aspect for stygius

#

So I can rely on cast for long distance stuff

novel wasp
#

You spelled nemesis wrong

#

ecksdee

cosmic stag
#

Hi guys, I'm a bit curious, what do u guys think about a endgame upgrade option menu, using Ambrosia, Diamonds and Keys for minor run benefits that costs a lot?

Such as 10 Ambrosia for a .5% atk dmg increase. 500 Keys for a .5% Boon dmg increase and such.

Currently the account-based currency chain of gem-key-netcar-diamond-ambrosia-TB seems to max out in matter of usage fairly quickly and becomes less desired during a run.

floral belfry
#

The mirror already does that kind of stuff

spring plaza
#

Arthur aspect is a bit though at higher heat especially with special enemies with buff like teleportation or speed up

#

But the damage is insane in fact. Add some Hermes speed up attack and avoid Forced Overtime

cosmic stag
#

@floral belfry
Yeah but, it only uses the darkness side of the economy. the whole other side becomes very..uninteresting afterwards imo

mellow vessel
#

I thought it might be interesting if you could use ambrosia as a small health potion during runs

#

Maybe limited to 1 use per room, some total number of uses per run

cosmic stag
#

I kinda wish this kinda thing would be a end-game upgrade option. After the, u know, ending ending.

hollow heron
#

I think the point of the renovations that give you bonuses on picking up minor resources was to make it so you still don't get nothing from those resources

mild needle
#

#EndGameContent

normal wraith
#

I think they're trying to consider options on what to do with darkness now. I'm hoping for nyx related stuff personally, but as it stands after you unlock every useful* thing in the mirror it feels like darkness is a wasted room.

*You can get dice from keys, making them extra valuable during runs.

umbral turtle
#

hi i was just playing a run and i had a choice between artemis and ares boons, i chose ares and during that encounter i couldnt dash or use anyof my weapons???

mild needle
#

you can exchange darkness for stuff with the broker, no?

normal wraith
#

Not normally.

mild needle
#

well, sometimes

umbral turtle
#

is that normal or is that a bug?

normal wraith
#

Oh uh about the boons...

#

Yeah that's not normal.

mild needle
#

its a bug, step on it

normal wraith
#

You should have been able to use them.

#

Anyway, yeah darkness is basically useless except for the mirror healing ability, which is kind of nice.

umbral turtle
#

yea im kinda annoyed since i had great starters

normal wraith
#

Though you need more to do with it.

mild needle
#

+5 max health

umbral turtle
#

had to kill the enemies using traps lol

normal wraith
#

Yeah but, 5 health ain't gonna save you from much.

#

The final boss deals 40 a hit.

opaque nexus
#

When I used Arthur aspect it kept freezing in an animation when a room ended

mild needle
#

well

opaque nexus
#

I had to dash to get out of it

#

I wish I screenshot it

mild needle
#

i probably gather like 30 or 40 every run from darkness pickups

#

so thats 1 more hit i can tank

#

not bad

normal wraith
#

Eh, still not very worth in my opinion. Not compared to 20 gold, dice, or leveling up a boon.

mild needle
#

not to mention the times i survived on a sliver of health so i didnt lose my dd

#

i try to reroll for something else dont get me wrong

#

but the game

#

only has like key/darkness/gems option

#

so in the end i just pick darkness often

normal wraith
#

Maybe if there was a sort of broker type character in the middle of your runs, that'd be interesting. Someone you can pay in darkness and health for different items.

mild needle
#

my reroll never gives me boon if i get a door with gem/key/darkness as the 1st option

barren rune
#

i've really liked the +5 max health from darkness. it adds up over an entire escape attempt, and the extra 5 lifegain can be a noninsignificant breather

normal wraith
#

Oh, if the door is marked with silver leaves you can't get a boon out of it at all.

barren rune
#

oh interesting, i never knew that

normal wraith
#

If it's gold you can get boons, hammers, hearts, and poms out of it.

#

That's the one you also get gold out of so never reroll it unless you have 2 dice.

#

(Gold has the highest chance of showing up.)

#

Yeah, you can see these markings even when rewards are hidden, so if you see two rooms and one's marked gold, it has the better reward.

#

It's also possible it can be a charon's shop but you can always tell if it's that one based on the fact you can't re-roll it.

#

Same with the unique rooms for each floor.

mild needle
#

i never notice that

#

thanks

#

theres a time i spent 7 reroll on a room and only got darkness/key/gem option so

merry harbor
#

Oof, yeah, that's usually what tips people off to the division.

mild needle
#

too bad darkness pickups from trove/well/shop doesnt grant hp

#

else ez +60 life

livid cargo
#

I think Shawl does proc off that

mild needle
#

proc what?

quaint bramble
#

Yeah that always bugged me but I guess it’s gotta be a balance thing? I feel like you should at least get the HP from the darkness in Charon’s shop since it’s the same pickup as out in the world but oh well.

mild needle
#

shawl makes you deal +% damage to undamaged foes

quaint bramble
#

Also, shawl used to work the same way one of the new mirror boons did, healed you for a percentage of the amount of darkness you picked up.

mild needle
#
  • the mirror and its like 50% damage increase or so
livid cargo
#

Oh they changed shawl? Huh

mild needle
#

its now a damage item

#

pretty good

#

im digging it

#

gettick attack speed bonus from hermes for arthur is

#

still clunky but managable

normal wraith
#

Kind of wish the undamaged bonus was a little higher though. Kind of make damaging people from behind 10x better because you can reliably manage that against several bosses and mobs. Vs. undamaged which you can only get off once on anyone.

#

Either that or maybe introduce actual stealth as an option along with changing it to sneak attacks?

#

I could imagine boons like, after you take a hit vanish for 2 seconds.

#

Or stuff like vanish for x seconds after your dash, and it's basically force enemies to target wherever you vanished instead of you.

west chasm
#

@mild needle REMEMBER! Excalibur hits like WAY further than it looks

#

Like about 1.5 Zagreuses

flat vapor
#

zagrooses

normal wraith
#

It hits from a full dash away doesn't it?

west chasm
#

Yeah

agile saddle
#

Can't stand Arthur aspect.

normal wraith
#

Eh, honestly the 4th aspect of each weapon is different enough you can expect to hate about half of them.

#

Even after I got used to guan Yu and fully upgraded it I still hated it.

mild needle
#

i dont hate guan yu but i detest the spin

#

its so weird to use

normal wraith
#

It's definitely not worth using unless you get the spin upgrades. Though I have had runs where I was doing a 1000+ damage regularly with it so I've grown soft for it.

#

It also synergizes really well with demeter, the god of wine, and Artemis.

#

Since it hits so many times in a row.

brisk trail
#

Do hits in a spin count for lightning strikes?

normal wraith
#

I don't think so, it's one attack.

#

It counts for the others because it hits so many times but Zues only mixes well with stuff like the sword, fists, and rail which launch multiple attacks in quick succession.

prisma cloak
#

How do you guys feel about playing Hades with a controller?

agile saddle
#

@brisk trail spins proc multiple times as it hits multiple times

#

The spin is not just a single hit

brisk trail
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Thank you.

agile saddle
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U can get multiple stacks of chill and poison like that

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@prisma cloak I only use controller

brisk trail
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I prefer mouse and keyboard.

mild needle
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voice command is the best

potent fossil
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Has there been any word by the devs if everyone's progress will be reset when version 1.0 hits?

brisk trail
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Nothing 100% in stone, but probably not.

merry harbor
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It will not be! It's in the FAQ!

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They mentioned they don't intend to wipe saves at 1.0 launch in there.

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Under the "horrible bugs" question

potent fossil
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Cool

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Thanks!

mild needle
normal wraith
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I imagine a lot of players are going to make a new save though.

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The story will flow as it properly should once the game's complete, rather than what is effectively two years a chaos f-ing around and altering creation.

merry harbor
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When we get closer to 1.0 I probably will to see how progression changed? But since I started in Long Winter it's a bit too soon for that.

hollow heron
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I started a new save because I hadn't played since launch

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Huge difference in so many ways

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It's Friday afternoon so I can play Hades and not feel bad I just realised Pog

normal wraith
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I probably won't do it until 1.0. I know the story will flow better and I have to skill to deal with the early game now, but I don't want to have to recollect everything just yet-

dark cradle
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I'll do a Hell Mode save for 1.0

hollow heron
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It's really cool to look at the numbers on boons and weapons on release and compare it to now

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Every weapon has had a damage buff I'm pretty sure

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And omg casts are so amazing with the innate tracking

mellow vessel
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I’ll do a non-hellmode save for 1.0 and then go back to my hellmode save after I’ve experienced the story as intended

mild needle
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i made a new game save and beat the final boss on 2nd run
non hell mode though

normal wraith
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I definitely believe the game is in many ways easier than first release.

hollow heron
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It certainly is

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Except for shield players

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There's nothing that could ever make shield better than on release

mild needle
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compare to when i first play, it took 30+ tries to complete a run

prisma cloak
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I just wish they improve controller support on 1.0.

hollow heron
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I was one of the early people to semi-consistenly clear hydra on release, and even then it was like 20 tries for first clear

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And then I dumped 10 in grinding a sword clear

mild needle
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what about the heroes

dark cradle
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What issues do you experience on the controller, Bou?

mild needle
dark cradle
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I've been using one the whole time and personally haven't run into any issues with it.

hollow heron
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Release bow was maybe stronger than it is now but also felt so much worse

brisk trail
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Bow at one point skipped Hydra.

mellow vessel
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I wasn’t involved in the community back then but the hydra took something like that many tries for me too

hollow heron
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One shotting hydra wasn't ok

mellow vessel
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But then it was consistent

hollow heron
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Hydra back then was really awful as well

mellow vessel
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So many heads

hollow heron
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It was so awful

prisma cloak
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@dark cradle I started with a controller (Steam Controller). It was good but then I had to continue playing on mouse and keyboard. The moment I tried the rail gun, I felt more freedom using my special and fog cast.

hollow heron
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Not even heads

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It was the main head

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The side ones were fine

mellow vessel
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It took forever though

dark cradle
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I've never used a Steam Controller! I switch back and forth from using my Xbone controller and my PS4 controller.

hollow heron
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The main one had much more brutal attacks, did them during head phase, and you couldn't attack the pink projectiles to destroy them

prisma cloak
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@dark cradle when I need to use special with a controller I needed to use my left analog to target the AOE. The right analog or trackpad is kinda useless

dark cradle
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Usually just use the Xbox one though. I've never even tried the M+K, my set up isn't in a position where I'm really able to comfortably use a mouse and keyboard for too long, I don't really have a desk and just sorta use my computer from my bed.

hollow heron
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You know the attack where the hydra just pukes projectiles at you? Imagine that but they are further arced so it's harder to cover from and you can't attack them

prisma cloak
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When I used the M&K, I could dash back while shooting at front.

merry harbor
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Keyboard+mouse is usually better for rail, but controller is super clean for like, everything else. hard to beat instant special targeting. And gun itself isn't too bad with it, either.

dark cradle
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Rail Special just auto-aims at nearest enemy for me.

mellow vessel
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I was playing back then

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I remember

hollow heron
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Having independent aiming is something I can never lose

mellow vessel
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I meant I wasn’t in the community like I wasn’t interacting with people

hollow heron
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Ah

dark cradle
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I can aim it manually by holding the Special button and using the stick.

hollow heron
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Yeah fair

mellow vessel
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But I’ve been playing all along

hollow heron
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Meg was so tanky on release

dark cradle
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I'd probably be using the mouse and keyboard if I had an actual desk for my desktop.

merry harbor
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I kinda wish she was still, honestly. Being able to almost oneshot her with an Arthur crit feels mean.

mellow vessel
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I use pillows on the couch haha

hollow heron
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Mouse and keyboard for this game can kill your hands just a warning

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Be careful

mellow vessel
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I have my mouse on the arm of the couch so my wrist isn’t bent

dark cradle
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I can sit up in bed and do it, I guess, I just don't feel as comfortable in that position as I do seated in a chair.

mellow vessel
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I’m unfortunately familiar with repetitive stress injuries

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Also I play the piano

dark cradle
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Nice!

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Record a bunch of 4 bar chord/melody progression loops for me in various keys/BPMs and I'll sample you.

mellow vessel
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On days where I practice a lot I don’t do more than one hades run

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Or none at all

hollow heron
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I play fighting games on a Hitbox (basically keyboard in controller form google it), and that's still so so much nicer on the hands

mellow vessel
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Ah I don’t do anything original, you’d just be sampling Chopin

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Which I mean

dark cradle
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It'd be p. swag to sample Chopin

mellow vessel
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Maybe isn’t a bad idea

merry harbor
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Chopin's lit tbh

mellow vessel
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Go give Nocturne in C minor a listen

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That’s my latest obsession to play

dark cradle
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I was just about to say

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It's my fave Chopin piece

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This in E-flat tho

mellow vessel
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I have it in a book

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Could learn it

merry harbor
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He gave some GOOD cello parts in his cello sonatas, I can't help but be a fan

mellow vessel
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My husband is getting back into cello, I should take a look at those

dark cradle
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Waltz No. 1 in E-Flat Major is good.

mellow vessel
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C minorrrr

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I’ll find it

dark cradle
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I wish I knew how to do more classical/orchestral composition.

mellow vessel
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That’s me playing

dark cradle
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Hell yeah it works.

mellow vessel
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I can do it better now but I haven’t taken another video since then

dark cradle
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Any chance you know what BPM you were playing at.

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I can just tap it out if you didn't but it'd be easier for me if you knew

mellow vessel
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I don’t, sorry, and it varies in the different sections

dark cradle
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Opening section is 65 BPM.

mellow vessel
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It was showing my name so I deleted it, but if someone wants to see it just pm me

agile saddle
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Rolling Knuckle and Long Knuckle for the fists dont work together

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the dash strike doesnt get the increased range

normal wraith
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Anyone know if Rolling Knuckle gets Artemis's dash attack increase even if you don't press space?

brisk trail
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I believe so.

chrome heron
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yeah, it counts as a dash-strike

primal whale
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Haha good luck sampling a piece with heavy rubato like all of chopin (although in truth, taking 4 bar samples would be quite doable as there are plenty of bars that are at a constant tempo, but the thought did make me giggle) @dark cradle

idle lily
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Apologies if this doesn't fit the channel; I like the idea that Zag is a/the God of life/blood/vitality.

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Feels thematically appropriate

dark cradle
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Definitely doable, but also extremely tedious @primal whale

primal whale
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Done right I bet it'd be awesome

dark cradle
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It's why despite all the flak he gets, I gotta give props to Kanye as a producer. He's flipped some crazy samples in some wild time signatures and put them into 4/4.

primal whale
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He's got talent, no denying that

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He's also seemingly a little bit unhinged unfortunately. I'll stop with the off topic comments now mods

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This hour feels like the wild west of discord servers though; anything goes and few people care

dark cradle
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Haha

mild needle
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mods are asleep, quick post weeb off topic shiet

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cant wait for rail/shield 4th aspect though

mellow vessel
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@primal whale I offered to re-record any specific desired bits, so if I need to play at a constant tempo for a specific reason I can do it

dire cedar
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bow 4th aspect i need you

primal whale
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@mellow vessel Although introducing rubato into beat making would be pretty novel

hollow heron
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rail is cool but neither of the non-base aspects appeal to me at all

brave thicket
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hestia is decent

hollow heron
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hmm hera bow works weirdly

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especially with aphro cast

novel wasp
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aphro cast is just weird rn

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and SAD

hollow heron
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like aphro cast is straight up worse than normal cast with hera

mild needle
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whats aphro cast now

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is was the shot gun right?

novel wasp
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its more like worse than melee range now

mild needle
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but its still the shot gun right?

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they reduce the range?

novel wasp
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reduce to oblivion

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the damage scale was reduced too afaik

mild needle
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what are you talking about

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i didnt see any crush shot change in patch notes

novel wasp
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you didnt use it?

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you will notice the range is changed

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now its a wide rectangle with tiny range

mild needle
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i havent played much these last few days

vast dagger
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i got one of my only wins with crush shot

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got it to like level 7 and had flurry cast

unreal otter
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Is it true all save files will be deleted when 1.0 is out?

ornate dune
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I think not

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atleast from reading the faq

night turret
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It's not some online game, they cant just delete all saves... Unless they mess up like Real BAD.

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And make game just not recognise them.

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But they did a pretty good job on that so far.

unreal otter
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Good to know. Thanks.

void vigil
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Will I run into horrible bugs or lose progress during Early Access?
We’ll do our best to prevent this. We have never wiped progress during Early Access development and intend to preserve saved progress through our v1.0 launch. If your game crashes and you lose progress, please check #h1-tech-fixes for how to recover save data.

From #hades-faq

eternal olive
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Hi! Does anyone get annoyed by the delayed fishing spot sound when doing speed/time limit runs? i often find myself exiting the room when the sound goes off

random eagle
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yeah Ive had to deal with that on a few occasions

floral belfry
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I've noticed in the code that there are a lot of "backwards compatability" things that when an old save is loaded, the data gets converted to new form

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they very much do try to make saves stable across updates

floral timber
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does the game freeze for anyone when you get hit or is that just me?

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like if i haven't gotten hit in a while it'll just freeze up on the first frame that i do get hit

flint fossil
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Yeah its normal

floral timber
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oh ok, i hope they fix that on the next update, iirc they're working on backend stuff right?

flint fossil
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I don't think its a bug

floral timber
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are you sure? it definitely doesn't seem intentional to me.

eternal olive
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I have that as well but rarely, in my case i made the mistake of installing the game on my HDD instead of SSD.

floral timber
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yeah that'll do it i suppose. now that you mention it i did the same thing haha.

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let me just move the game and pretend i never made that mistake

mellow talon
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Do we know if we're getting all the Olympians in the future? (i.e. Hera, Hephaestus, Apollo)

night turret
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No

floral belfry
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some might not show up as boons I imagine

night turret
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We are getiing max 1 "new" character at best.

void vigil
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the character isnt an olympian, right?

mellow talon
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That kinda sucks actually but I guess not every Olympian would want Zagreus up there

floral belfry
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It'd be cool if zag could convince different subsets of gods to help him

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instead of them all wanting to help him for random reasons

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zeus and poseidon should probably be more exclusive to eachother

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but under certain circumstances would work together

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etc

cosmic mist
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hi everyone how do i gain access to the admin chamber?

deft gull
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did you have the dream/flashback about it already?

cosmic mist
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nope

deft gull
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okay, you'll get that sequence at some point, and after that it shows up in the broker's menu. iirc it costs a few diamonds

cosmic mist
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cool thx bro zagluv

acoustic sphinx
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I think titan's blood should buy a greater bonus for the Rail than just ammo, maybe a +1 or +2% increase in damage, or a faster reload speed per level.

spring plaza
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@acoustic sphinx It depends of the aspect you seek to improve.

acoustic sphinx
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Well, not having to reload as often is nice in itself.

crimson void
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Except that nobody relies on the attack for rail damage

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It's all about the bombs,.baby

opaque nexus
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false

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eris with zeus attack

spring plaza
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The rail with Zeus few boons on attack is just destroying crowds like nothing

dry oasis
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The amount of dialogs in this game is insane lmao

rugged fractal
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Also, I discovered that the Arthur Aspect's special negates the lava's movement speed debuff, which I thought was kind of weird and that it shouldn't be there.
@rocky cedar actually, this is expected. Lava is counted as a trap, last patch added immunity to all traps while in Artur's field

rocky cedar
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Oh? That's kinda cool.

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Never knew it counted as a trap.

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Kinda always seemed like an environmental hazard instead of a trap.

mellow vessel
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Yeah... I found that out the hard way when I turned on heightened security

sharp parcel
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you can also find that out if you get the trap damage curse

mellow vessel
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It’s not that much of an issue except if you also have extreme measures on the hydra fight

rugged fractal
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But somehow broken pot of final boss does not seem to be counted as a trap

rocky cedar
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However I was immune to the lava damage even while not affected by Arthur's Field.

mellow vessel
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They used to

rocky cedar
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Which I thought was odd.

mellow vessel
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Count as traps

rugged fractal
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Also, you can find interesting behavior in Satyr's tunnels

rocky cedar
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I'll delete that other suggestion though.

rugged fractal
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Flying sawblades are not damaging you, yet slowing down in the field

rocky cedar
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I mean, right now I'm completely immune to lava and I don't even have the field up.

rugged fractal
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So after small amount of time you can just stand there, surrounded by 2-6 blades which are doing huge dmg to anyone who's trying to reach you

rocky cedar
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I can just infinitely run around in lava for funsies.

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Which I'm sure is a bug.

rugged fractal
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Yeah, that one is a bug

mellow vessel
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Yeah definitely

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Report it with f10 in game

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They don’t do bugs in the feedback channel

rocky cedar
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I see. I did.

mellow vessel
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Ah okay

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I wasn’t trying to chide you over it, just letting you know

rocky cedar
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Oh I know. It's fine.

void vigil
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if you already f10d it, im gonna delete it from the feedback channel as it shouldnt be there, if you dont mind shadesmile

rocky cedar
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Go on ahead.

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Thank you, by the way.

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For takin' the time to sort through all this stuff and get it all fixed up.

lapis nymph
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Where can I submit a bug?