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Chaos is actually dancing when they see ya boi zag smackin dem 1000 damage per hit up there
i need more chaos in my life thx
PAY IN BLOOD
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Chaos is actually dancing when they see ya boi zag smackin dem 1000 damage per hit up there
@novel wasp all you need is an Arte crit
Kekw
@delicate arrow i get no luck in the boons thats why I get 6 strikes instead
which is way mroe epic than getting just a arte crit
virgin artemis vs chad chaos
Artemis is literally a virgin by choice so the meme kinda fails here.
Hey so
When maxing out the Greater Reflex ability at the Mirror of Night
should you be having 2 or 3 dashes?
2
Cause I've had 2 dashes rather than 3 ever since the Elysium update I think it was
But my friend just picked up the game again, not having played since before the Elysium update - and he has 3 dashes
Oh if at some point it was 3 I don't know about it, but I've been here since the "Welcome to Hell" update, and it's been 2 dashes for me. If he has 3 dashes in his mirror, either he has not updated, or there's a glitch somewhere
Like, I know you can edit saves to modify your mirror perks
So maybe there's something with that
Like, his mirror upgrade dash count not updating properly
I miss those days
Though I guess just 2 dashes give the early play the spice and challenge that it needs!
3 dashes was so long ago
3 Dashes went away during the High Speed update.
And I don't miss those times, cuz that dash sucks.
is it just me or does anyone else think the blade rift should move slower?
With it's damage potential? No.
It's like boons like Vortex and Hunting blades are powerfull for a reason.
Guys, is beating one of the sisters the only way to gain blood?
You get blood each time you beat the first and fourth bosses for the first time on a specific heat level with each weapon
You can also trade for it
Once you get a clear, you unlock a pact that allows you to make the game harder
You'll get there, best of luck!
the last time I played there were only two bosses
sooooo
I need to beat meg with a weapon that I havent
?
I'd recommend just trying to clear first
aight aight
Learn all the new content
thank you!
And a lot of the old stuff has changed as well!
Isnt the shield a little op?
It's pretty good
Shield was my first melee clear
After 6 ranged clears
And it was a bull rush build that was basically ranged anyways
yeah I mostly go with bull rush or throw as well
havent tried the ranged weapons much
Do synergies like lets say
I use the sword with the critical chance aspect and then pick artemis' boon
so that I get 15% critical
do those stack to a total of 30% critical lets say?
The only released fourth aspects are those two! To unlock them, ||keep talking to Achilles||
so
each weapon has only 1
but currently both of them r the 4th aspect of all weapons
also on that link u just sent, is that how the crit works
no, two specific weapons have a 4th aspect, one being Arthur for the sword and Guan Yu for the spear
Ive only beaten the game with shield so far
Crit Shorthand: Every 1% of crit you have increases your DPS by 2%. So 15% crit will increase your DPS by 30% total.
I don't think anything has changed in that regards so yes
is that how crit works ?
it's just explaining how critical attacks affect your DPS
so if it doesnt crit, its just a ded thing right
aight thx
you could high roll and have it crit all the time
or low and have it not, but in general it'll be somewhere in between
anyone using stubborn defi?
I've been playing around with it
ive only cleared this game once tho smh
I like the idea of stubborn but it feels like it needs some tweaking to be even comparable to defiance
true
Athena defiance line makes no sense with stubborn
death defi is way better than stubborn defi but since there is that quest i have to finish with it :/
I wished it gained a stubborn defiance instead of replenishing
I get why it works the way it does with death defiance
but if you added more charges to stubborn defi i think it would be way too strong
but stubborn defiance replenishment is redundant
would it?
you would beed to get athena boons
only to make it a lesser version of death defiance for boss fights
you're gaining 30% health instead of 50%
i mean if you added 2nd charge and be able to res 2 times every room
and you go into the next room with 30% health
and leaving with 30% or less
unless you're planning on dying every room or hell even every other room
i mean you could always die on the last minion
you're not dying enough on regular rooms to make it worth and even if you do, you come out worth for ware for boss fights
yeah but then were you even going to make it through boss fights with 60% of your health?
exactly
there's not much point in surviving at that point
One thing that could be cool is to give stubborn defiance a buff of somekind like Ruthless
nope but im not that good in the game xD
I've done it a couple of times
tf
mostly because cheasy builds x3
ah
i always choose whatever i like from boons not really looking into builds
casts builds let's you do a lot once you get into the cat and mouse nature of them with bossed
I like how the game caters to both possibilities
whether you go head first into a build or cobble together something that works, it never feels like an unwinnable battle
what's everyone's favourite gods for boons?
mine have to say, Demeter is just so interesting
i like Demeter because i like wise old poeple xD thats why Gandalf and Dumbledore are my fav chracters xD
she has a lot of variety for me
but i like Dio because i feel like DoT effects are really good in any games
you could get rare crops, or snow burst. Her casts changes the way you play entirely and her chill is pretty nice
her call is pretty powerful too
how about least favourite?
Zeus´ call i think is really... blinding? every time i use it i just cant see anything
Orphese didnât show up at the house for a lot of run now. Is this bug? ||I currently have the contact to buy||
but i dont think i have any god im avoiding
i think it depends on what weapon you are using
if you have event better knockback on shield and you just smack enemies into lava i think its pretty funny xD
no matter the weapon, it doesn't help with bosses
yeah i was about to say that
I like the reward idea
Isnt there a poseidon boon that makes his knockbacks deal bonus damage to bosses
Did i hallucinate that
Im sure i saw it
there is but it's miniscule at best
i dont know since all my runs i see just Ares, Artemis and Athena i really dont remember other boons xD
I felt like 30% is a lot
I just had a run that was
Zeus
Zeus
Zeus
More zeus
STOP GIVING ME ZEUS
i havent seen Zeus in looong time xD
his is the only status effect that doesn't work well on bosses
Would be too funny if you splashed redacted and they just toppled over
I mean yeah 30% is a decent amount but compared to say Doom or Hangover? it's not much
are special rooms just 50% chance btw? Any run where I don't end up with Eurydice is a failed run in my book
Can i get a gps that lets me locate patroclus
i didnt get Eurydice in a while too
Im a dumdumb and lose at least one defiance along the way like every time
i got Patroclus in every single run tho xD
LUCKER
I get Eurydice every single time
LU CK ER
that sweet sweet boon upgrade
I get patroclus basically every run, no idea why
you know
:(
I haven't seen Sissyphus in awhile
but I prefer some gentle singer to some grumpy dude
i just met him in this run im doing rn
did you nectar to bouldy for good luck?
idk why but i see just Meg everytime
nah im giving nectar to Patroclus because he is really sad
YOU MONSTER
also i want him and Achilles to have some fun stuff together if that is implemented in the game đ
Patroclus is in deep depression and you want me to give nectar to someone who is trying to move boulder?
i give Cerb pets all the time
Bouldy believed in you
im just sad i can pet just one head :(( what other 2?
whaa??
We have to respect that
they don't like pets
nonsense
gotta have that personal space ya know
I think it's a voice line you can get while petting
there's 2 voicelines that mentioned this
also after my last run (i died on final boss because stupid mistakes) when i returned to House of Hades no one was home xD no Hades, no Achilles, no Hypnos, no Orpheus, no Meg
just Nyx standing next to my room
i didnt see Dusa either
Sounds like a bug, there's usually at least two or three for me lol
Than?
oh yeah i think Than was talking to Nyx
I haven't done this but does anyone know if you get extra loot from bosses if you overfill the heat gauge?
nope
speaking of Than, i just got him in this room xD
I feel like slowly climbing with each weapon is super slow :/
how extra heat works is you get the reward from the current heat level up to whatever heat you're doing
so doing 10 heat repeatedly while on 4 heat reward would get you 4, then 5, 6, ...10.
except if you're on heat level 0 which is weird
Well I can't blame the devs for that I guess, it does make you play the game more
like you need to do the fists at heat level 0 first before pushing up the heat
Than just KS everyone :((
The strat is to ks him :^)
ik but he is oneshoting xD
I think it would be fun if you got rewarded for overfilling the heat gauge beyond your current reward level by a certain amount
Is that just me?
it would make sense i guess? like "you are doing extra job so here extra rewards"
But we don't want to encourage people to make the heat gauge sad :c
I mean, technically there is?
There's skelly's stuff.
Most of which will take forever to unlock if you tick up one heat at a time.
There is also the realm of monsters.
Which depending on the floor you need all the way up to 15 heat to unlock.
i like how im playing this game so often but make no progress xD
im still at heat 1 because im bad and cant finish it
i mean just 3 more weapons to go
Ah, well hang in there.
slowly but surely xD
I suppose I never considered Skelly's stuff as an incentive for that, I just saw them as an incentive to tick the heat gauge one by one đ¤
Eventually you'll get good enough at the game you'll be beating heat after heat.
I mean you get 3 diamonds for unlocking the first one if my memory serves me correctly.
3-5 diamonds for 1 run is a lot.
Question for you kind sirs XD
I've looked online for how to unlock Guan Yu, and everyone just seems to say "Beat a run with the sword" and that's it
I've beaten a run with a sword, have Zag aspect to 5 too
i dont have it yet but other kind sirs here told me to beat game and invest lot of blood into aspects
Also, I can't seem to level up Skelly anymore after giving him all the items, I am sitting on like 12-15 Ambrosia and nobody that'll let me use it on them =(
hmm I wonder which?
I've unlocked my shield Zeus aspect to 5, and picked up a few other random aspects to lv1 too
@median eagle to put it non-spoilery, just talk to people and eventually stories will progress and you can use it on some characters
|| they told me to invest blood to lot of aspects and then talk to Achilles||
shoot did i just make a spoiler in non spoiler channel?
no
hmm eventually? Kind of seems... like it takes too long if you're suggesting there is dialogue backed up, I've talked to everyone every single run and am up to like 13 heat now mandatory =/
lol I've done that =( consistently
I even talk to Charon every run each time he pops up lol I only have a few people beyond 1-heart, but Dusa and Skelly are both sitting at full hearts with a lock on the next saying to increase their relationship before I unlock the next entry, but I can't increase them
so basically I'm looking at progressing much faster than the game's story and I'm backlogged for X runs for no real reason?
hmm I wouldn't normally summon a dev, but it feels like that could be a design issue if players are being artificially held back, @pure hamlet you're the top of the list so I choose you XD Is there a way to speed up backlogged events? I've been talking to everyone I encounter each and every run, and (likely) satisfied the Achilles requirements for Guan Yu, but I can't seem to get him to mention anything about it--I also can't seem to use the stockpile of Ambrosia that I've amassed.
From my personal experience, I beat the the game using the 3rd aspect of a weapon after having all of them unlocked. That typically added unlocking the hidden aspect into the eventual interactions I'd get form a character.
hmm.. I have 6 runs beaten with the shield's third aspect, fourth is still ????
only the sword and spear have third aspects
Is the default message just "Currently unavailable due to Ongoing Underworld Renovations" or is that suggesting I need some kind of specific renovations/quantity of them?
Ahh, I was including aspect of Zag
so like shield has Aspect of Zag, Chaos, Zeus--I've used Zeus, last slot is ????
yeah it's not in the game yet
Hi guys, i wanted to ask you, i'm not sure if it's the right channel for my question but, is there any plan from the devs to add steam success in the game?
Ongoing Underworld Renovations is code for: "It's not done yet."
so I'm okay on that front lol but I still haven't gotten the Arthur/Guan dialogues yet, and still no way to use my Ambrosias even though I have two npcs ready for them =(
mmm agreed, I love the shield
Shield is cool but i didn't used it that much, i'm more on my GUN
lol I'm the same about sword, I can go like 10x faster in a run but I just end up eventually squishing
GUN GUN GUN and GUN again lmao
i feel like shield is too good
I liked the gun, but each time I tried it I would find myself only really looking for two routes: special spam, or dash + no ammo Daed
The problem of the gun is that i rly feel it more rng dependent than every other weapon
nah guan yu is very rng dependent
(i didn't use many of the other but it's my impression)
hestia is rng dependent but eris not as much
hestiasama
I can got a run with enormous amount of dmg and then get strugle to move forward cause of the lack of dmg (sry my english is rly aproximative)
Rail is the single most consistent weapon for completing runs imho
Hestia is the aspect wich grant you power attack when u reload?
Even with poop boons you can just dodge everything
Forge what do you think of the fist and arthur
Both good
None of them are top tier but they don't need to be
I enjoy all of them a lot
arthur with hermes attack is beautiful
20% attack speed shaves off a lot
cursed slash with arthur is really good
Its okay
I'll get there eventually đ but first I have to find out what the deal is with unlocking them -__-
I just avoid hammers when I use Excalibur
More likely to make the run more awkward than help
I wanted a big heavy weapon and I got it
bro the final hit has like 200 base damage
Yeah its absurd lmao
that's more than hestia at max rank
does daedelus hammer for sword's thrust damage increase affect that last hit too?
You know you can pace it so that it becomes your dash attack too, right? @opaque nexus
@median eagle You can't get that hammer for Excalibur
what
Yeah
oh
You can pace your swings so that any part of the combo is your dash attack Cinder
Its great
so does that work with artemis dash
Not sure
Wich aspect u prefer on the sword?
probably not lol
I don't know if its actually being considered the dash attack for % purposes
I should test it later
@long relic Poseidon
Though they nerfed it into the dirt its still my fave
what it does?
a lot of the new mirror things seem underpowered
lol that sounded the most fun
dark regen is busted tho
Makes casts deal 50% more damage and specialing enemies makes them drop casts
Poseidon is legit
They had to absolutely curbstomp it to dethrone it
5:51 speedruns rip
what seems to be everyone's favorite shield? Is Zeus an obvious shoe-in?
lol
I think shield as a whole is boring
Chaos Shield is the most powerful aspect in the game again after Poseidon Sword got nerfed
I didn't finished the game once, got a lot of time too the final boss but i don't manage to pass it, the second phase kick my ass out in the palace lol
so i don't have a lot of titan blood
mmm for the shotgun effect?
Not just the shotgun effect, its ability to spread Doom to all enemies
And Explosive Return
Its just overall extremely powerful
ahhh that does make sense
doom special is fun ig
Like shield has ranged attack, block, movement attack, burst, etc
very interested in what the 4th aspect for shield will be
I prefer Zeus aspect with Athena special deflect
Its just extremely solid
People really like Zeus but I get bored really easily with it
Its just so slow
Not my cup of tea I guess
if i'm correct before finishing the game the only way to got titan blood is to reach the first boss and beat her with all the weapon to get one blood per equipement right?
Yeah, that part is true, wish I were better with sword etc because the speed difference is intense
@long relic That and the broker, yes
fists seem... okay
And extremely rare fishing spots in Chaos's room
Fists are good, they're just not top tier Cinder
also I had people legit tell me nemesis is the best weapon at one point
yes i got the fishroad yesterday, but didn't restart the game since
because it's good for speedruns
it wasn't even impressive
I don't get how nemesis makes 32 heat easy
@opaque nexus Nemesis was the best aspect a looong time ago
no like people told me that this week
Nemesis is good, but its not fast enough for speedruns atm
Outside of 32 heat if you just manmode it
But then any aspect is if you know what you're doing since those times were so high and people haven't adapted to 32 heat yet
timer is likely the last heat I'll start picking up considering I'm all for Zeus lol
Last update Poseidon Sword outclassed all other weapons by a mile, and this update Chaos Shield and possibly Rail are the best weps
Just for fun how many ennemy u killed on all you'r try XD?
can we get a hades aspect that does something btw
For spear?
yes
Yeah its... not good
like considering who it's based off of, it's pretty uninspired
I should specify that spear as a base weapon is good
y'know, one of the main characters
But the Hades aspect just does nothing for it
someone suggested that they get rid of the spin attack and change the normal attack to a combo that ends in a spin
It'd be kind of neat to see it replace your cast with the skulls or something
I think they should just make it not about spins at all since Guan Yu covers that very well
just to change up style lol
or changing the special to a ||homing skull|| or ||change the spin attack to a charged laser||
second one is probably the best bet
I'd be down mainly because I prefer playing at-range lol
Is there a way to know if you got the titan blood and other items from the bosses with each weapon?
When you start the run with that weapon is the only way I know of so far
Don't take my word for it though lol I'm only a couple days old
I didn't notice an other way so
guess you'r right no matter you'r only a couple days old
and i'm not that old too
i have less than 20 hours
I leave the game running so I have no idea how many hours lol but I do see I have 39 runs, many of which were super fails when I started lol
hm demeter notes that hestia and hera have some sort of conflict with the olympians... dunno if this sgg saying they're deconfirmed or just explaining why they're not helping zag yet
i'm on my 28th
i think someone said Hestia and Hera are busy
demeter says hestia and hera have some quarrel with "her foster brothers," so zeus, hades, and poseidon specifically
but im not sure how to interpret sgg's purpose of including this line
also demeter confirmed killing her parents rip hyperion and theia đ
well actually she only specified hyperion so idk about theia
I apparently punched the last boss so hard my game crashed
lmao
It was so sad though, that run was good
+180% Damage on Both Dash-Strike and Special because of Chaos
oof xD
did you kill him and then it crashed?
Nope
On his last threshold though
I wish the game brought you back to the last saved point of the run
I wouldn't mind having to kill the Satyrs again
you ever wonder if like the satyrs have their own culture and stuff and we're just exterminating them cause we don't like them and find the stuff they do weird
sometimes i wonder
but also shooty shooty
i like how when you defeat final boss he´s like "how dare you?!?" and when he defeats you he is like "you think you are superior to me?" i mean, i killed you like 3 times already chill
does the kitchen have a purpose yet?
Passing the time.
there's a minor type of item you can give the chef for small rewards later on âşď¸
unless you mean more than that, I haven't seen anything
huge damage bonus against onions,
Well will know soon if i can manage final boss with the shield XD
ok but fr tho if there will be new miniboss variant for the tartarus
I want a giant numbskull
and just call it 4head
on the second try with shield it will be hard
maybe not a 4head part but the giant numbskull sounds fine
or maybe a giant numbskull pile and has big hp and keep summon a lot of numbskulls
mega numbskull pile that summons other numbskull piles....
pyramid scheme for numbskulls
Payment in not full
bunch o 4heads
tbh sword in high heat in all variants are kitchen knife level of useless
I like numbskulls
because they have the most visible reaction when you break their precious armor
oh cool, I was thinking that well, you know how we get burritos. If we gave the chef ingredients other more appetizing food could spawn in the world
thats all
like burritos give 10 and idk ughhh lava soup gives 12 or something
Those are pitas...
@novel wasp They look so shocked and offended. "Sir!"
Has anyone seen fishing spots in the ||waters around the final boss fight||?
@crimson void now i feel stupid
What weapon is the best for Flamewheels so that i can play nothing but it for the rest of my life
Rail.
Fun fact: if you don't play, you won't see any flamewheels ever
why live if you're just gonna die
there's always someone worse, I haven't even unlocked heat stuff yet
how do u succeed in fishing
Press E when the bait sinks @green carbon
ic
Also this isn't told but
The longer the bait remains submerged, the higher chance for a rarer fish you get
been waiting for 2 mins
I mean eventually the fish flees
the thing hasnt went down
In my experience the bait will bob 0-3 times, then it will fully submerge and though I havenât seen it personally there will be a small flash of light on the sinker that will indicate a higher chance of catching a rare fish. You shouldnât have been sitting there for that long with no interaction though. Might be bugged or might have already triggered.
Then you missed it.
It will happen in a moment, just be on the lookout for the next one.
yea after a couple secs it comes back up and never sinks again
Nemesis is â¤ď¸
Nemesis has arguably the best damage in the entire game.
I prefer Zag bow but meh
Memesis
I love Zagreus bow, too, but Nemesis is just harder hitting. You're trading the safety of range for mad deeps.
There was the poss too but idk the interest of the bonus if you play with the upgrade from the miror (witch i do to stack stone on opponent)
dk if i write it well
but have to admit that if you combine the nem aspect with some artemis crit upgrade
can be pretty angry
Nemesis with virtually any attack boon and you're square.
Heartbeak Strike, Deadly Flourish. Built-in Heart Rend.
nemesis doesn't have an inherent boost to critical damage so you'd still need to try and nab heart rend in typical fashion after getting those former two
Hi! Question, have any one had a problem with the gift of song on the fated list? I played that lyre in-between 50+ runs.
you need to play it a lot
you can keep plinking away at it to make progress, doesn't have to be once between runs
Time to watch youtube and mash e for an hour
Yeah it's a random number but it's usually anywhere from 200 - 250 times you need to play it
Good lord thats a lot
I just did it 25 times each run
Wow, thats a alot. Good to know. Ill keep at it ;D
I thought that 1 time in-between each run would be enough. And after you played it for 20-30h you would be done. But it would take me to x-mas đ
I wish there was a ways to proc story events, been waiting for like 25+ runs to get the last interaction for sisyphus' companion
it took me a ton of new nyx events to finally get to aspect of arthur
Yeah, or it'd be nice if SGG placed events you're actively pursuing at the top of the event queue so you aren't stuck watching like 10 dialogues before you can actually do it.
Hold up, did you just say Heart Rend and Nemesis with the highest Attack boost in the game wasn't enough?
I guess I just said the same thing as you did but with extra steps.
uh, no? you said built-in heart rend, which nemesis does not have
Every character is processing the dialogue for "oh you're dating 3 people"
Heart Rend spawns when you have Deadly Strike/Flourish and a Heartbreak Strike/Flourish/Passion Dash.
Obviously you need to get RNG to spawn Heart Rend.
yes, it does. built-in implies inherent. already present
That is literally every run and I'm tired of having to spell out that RNG affects runs every time.
you are hugely and willingly misinterpreting what i've said but okay man. you don't have to spell out anything because what i've been saying has nothing to do with that, thanks
Heart rend does whay exactly?
boosts critical damage by 50% on those afflicted by weak
50% multiplicative boost to crit damage on Weak enemies.
Ohh that one
Feels like Artemis is strong on every weapon
Either crit for high base damage or the support fire
She is.
Art is best girl
having a fully kitted artemis run is fun, fast, and very effective
I love getting Support Fire when I have Flurry on Sword.
Or with fists
She's even better with the new Family Favorite talent. I always feel like it's hard to make use of Privileged Status with a full on Artemis build
Chain lightning support fire splitting bolt đđđ
how much was support fire dmg wise when it was a legendary?
i wonder how it compared
I donât remember exactly but I think it was like 25-30?
25?
No, it may have been 15.
The issue was that when it and Fully Loaded first swapped you could Pom it up to 25-30 very quickly.
Can you only get 4 hearts on gods? I gave 4 nectar to Poseidon and now the 5th heart has a spinning circle with a clock symbol.
Further when do you encounter Demeter? Is that far into the story? Haven't encountered her once yet, been in Elysium but not yet beyond.
Those clocks mean the content has not been implemented yet, a heart with a keyhole means you need to progress in the story.
I'm not 100% sure about Demeter, but I think you need to beat the final boss once.
Ah ok I got a heart with a keyhole for Dusa :3
If you defeat Hades the first time, do you keep your hearts for characters after that?
@cursive idol spoilers
@cursive idol do you mean in the Codex?
Yeah in the codex
yeah, those persist between runs
Awesome :3
Just need to reach the final boss, beating them is not required!
Zag just needs to know how snow looks like 
@cursive idol for demeter, you just need to reach the final boss once, not necessarily win
It is fun to see the interactions when giving nectar to folks and it does make me curious what they will do/say when you keep giving them stuff so it's nice to hear that, that continues after you reached the final boss.
That you not perse have to start over on someone or someone else XD.
And thanks for the hint on when/how you encounter Demeter :3 .
Yeah, beating the final boss is just the... not the START of the game opening up, but a lot of stuff lies beyond that. So it's always worthwhile to keep going!
I am a mythology geek and my top 5 fav Greek gods in order are Demeter, Poseidon, Apollo, Hestia, Eros XD.
And it's cool that the story continues at that point Silvaria :3 .
a shame only two are in the game lmao
Hestia got mentioned once I think :p . Think Achilles said that she also put on the fists of Malpheon once what was surprising or something :p.
We have to see if they are gonna put in all the olympians but if so Hephaestus and Apollo remain and Hestia was a olympain but gave her seat to Dionysus pretty much :p
The god designs in this game are pretty cool, detailed, refreshing and authentic btw :3 .
Yes, Hestia has her name referenced in the second rail aspect I think. Eris, the goddess of disharmony also does, Eros does not, probably because Aphrodite already fulfills the love deity role in the gameâs lore. Hoooo boi Iâd love to see an Apollo Olympian in-game or at least an aspect or consumable or something. The pantheon feels incomplete without him.
Nemesis and Chiron are also aspects.
It surprised me when they added a Guan Yu aspect, a Chinese general who due to his deeds got deityfied XD.
Yeah! The fourth aspects are super neato! Shows that the game isn't limited to only Greek mythos for the weapons.
Yeah it seemed bizarre at first but now that weâve learned more about where and when legendary aspects come from I love the game design space that might get explored now.
I'm still guessing it's that persian hero
Those both sound dope.
I just want something that affects the special without kinda needing the Daedalus hammer upgrade for more special arrows to feel whole.
i would like to see a bladed bow concept melee right click
different ways of mix and matching
Yeah or something in the vein of the Bastion galleon mortar, with a special that brings down an arrow that can still powershot if held while aiming enough.
Anyone else remember the galleon mortar mastery challenge in Bastion? Raining fire on the little gasbag things.
I finally made it to the 4th area and Charon is selling boons for 500,450 and 150
Is it just upgraded rarity?
Yeah that's what I did
Thana toast
Then a toast
đĽ
I like a long speech better than a toast
than anime style running late to a death pickup with a slice of thanatoast in his mouth
Bold of you to assume Zag wouldn't be the protag running to class late with toast in his mouth
How does than even run
Turbo levitation
He just pops in late with a shader that turns the room green
Zag would just dash through the closed door
WITH A SHADER THAT TURNS THE ROOM GREEN
It's just thanatos using the timates stonates
Do you think we'll get boss music for bosses other than the final one?
... Don't we already have those
Theseus and asterius just sounds like the generic Elysium combat music
they have different instruments playing
im so bad with every weapon that isnt the bow lmao
how do i even use melee weapons idk
@lilac bronze thatâs how my husband feels lol, he doesnât understand how I can like the sword
i neglect all weapons but the bow lmaooooooooooo
... phrasing
:shakingeyes:
i suck with the sword ;_; i just wanna do all the prophecies with the sword and then never touch it lol
I think itâs necessary to enjoy chaos (not the character) to some extent
I like dashing around willy billy slashing at things
Nilly
Lol autocorrect
Yeah he always runs with the butterfly keepsake so... sword does not appeal to him
You have to accept getting smacked in the face sometimes if you run with the sword
i get smacked in the face too much with the bow :p it only gets worse with every other weapon
funnily enough i am using stygius rn
I prefer Poseidon aspect for stygius
So I can rely on cast for long distance stuff
Hi guys, I'm a bit curious, what do u guys think about a endgame upgrade option menu, using Ambrosia, Diamonds and Keys for minor run benefits that costs a lot?
Such as 10 Ambrosia for a .5% atk dmg increase. 500 Keys for a .5% Boon dmg increase and such.
Currently the account-based currency chain of gem-key-netcar-diamond-ambrosia-TB seems to max out in matter of usage fairly quickly and becomes less desired during a run.
The mirror already does that kind of stuff
Arthur aspect is a bit though at higher heat especially with special enemies with buff like teleportation or speed up
But the damage is insane in fact. Add some Hermes speed up attack and avoid Forced Overtime
@floral belfry
Yeah but, it only uses the darkness side of the economy. the whole other side becomes very..uninteresting afterwards imo
I thought it might be interesting if you could use ambrosia as a small health potion during runs
Maybe limited to 1 use per room, some total number of uses per run
I kinda wish this kinda thing would be a end-game upgrade option. After the, u know, ending ending.
I think the point of the renovations that give you bonuses on picking up minor resources was to make it so you still don't get nothing from those resources
#EndGameContent
I think they're trying to consider options on what to do with darkness now. I'm hoping for nyx related stuff personally, but as it stands after you unlock every useful* thing in the mirror it feels like darkness is a wasted room.
*You can get dice from keys, making them extra valuable during runs.
hi i was just playing a run and i had a choice between artemis and ares boons, i chose ares and during that encounter i couldnt dash or use anyof my weapons???
you can exchange darkness for stuff with the broker, no?
Not normally.
well, sometimes
is that normal or is that a bug?
its a bug, step on it
You should have been able to use them.
Anyway, yeah darkness is basically useless except for the mirror healing ability, which is kind of nice.
yea im kinda annoyed since i had great starters
Though you need more to do with it.
+5 max health
had to kill the enemies using traps lol
When I used Arthur aspect it kept freezing in an animation when a room ended
well
i probably gather like 30 or 40 every run from darkness pickups
so thats 1 more hit i can tank
not bad
Eh, still not very worth in my opinion. Not compared to 20 gold, dice, or leveling up a boon.
not to mention the times i survived on a sliver of health so i didnt lose my dd
i try to reroll for something else dont get me wrong
but the game
only has like key/darkness/gems option
so in the end i just pick darkness often
Maybe if there was a sort of broker type character in the middle of your runs, that'd be interesting. Someone you can pay in darkness and health for different items.
my reroll never gives me boon if i get a door with gem/key/darkness as the 1st option
i've really liked the +5 max health from darkness. it adds up over an entire escape attempt, and the extra 5 lifegain can be a noninsignificant breather
Oh, if the door is marked with silver leaves you can't get a boon out of it at all.
oh interesting, i never knew that
If it's gold you can get boons, hammers, hearts, and poms out of it.
That's the one you also get gold out of so never reroll it unless you have 2 dice.
(Gold has the highest chance of showing up.)
Yeah, you can see these markings even when rewards are hidden, so if you see two rooms and one's marked gold, it has the better reward.
It's also possible it can be a charon's shop but you can always tell if it's that one based on the fact you can't re-roll it.
Same with the unique rooms for each floor.
i never notice that
thanks
theres a time i spent 7 reroll on a room and only got darkness/key/gem option so
Oof, yeah, that's usually what tips people off to the division.
I think Shawl does proc off that
proc what?
Yeah that always bugged me but I guess itâs gotta be a balance thing? I feel like you should at least get the HP from the darkness in Charonâs shop since itâs the same pickup as out in the world but oh well.
shawl makes you deal +% damage to undamaged foes
Also, shawl used to work the same way one of the new mirror boons did, healed you for a percentage of the amount of darkness you picked up.
- the mirror and its like 50% damage increase or so
Oh they changed shawl? Huh
its now a damage item
pretty good
im digging it
gettick attack speed bonus from hermes for arthur is

still clunky but managable
Kind of wish the undamaged bonus was a little higher though. Kind of make damaging people from behind 10x better because you can reliably manage that against several bosses and mobs. Vs. undamaged which you can only get off once on anyone.
Either that or maybe introduce actual stealth as an option along with changing it to sneak attacks?
I could imagine boons like, after you take a hit vanish for 2 seconds.
Or stuff like vanish for x seconds after your dash, and it's basically force enemies to target wherever you vanished instead of you.
@mild needle REMEMBER! Excalibur hits like WAY further than it looks
Like about 1.5 Zagreuses
zagrooses
It hits from a full dash away doesn't it?
Yeah
Can't stand Arthur aspect.
Eh, honestly the 4th aspect of each weapon is different enough you can expect to hate about half of them.
Even after I got used to guan Yu and fully upgraded it I still hated it.
It's definitely not worth using unless you get the spin upgrades. Though I have had runs where I was doing a 1000+ damage regularly with it so I've grown soft for it.
It also synergizes really well with demeter, the god of wine, and Artemis.
Since it hits so many times in a row.
Do hits in a spin count for lightning strikes?
I don't think so, it's one attack.
It counts for the others because it hits so many times but Zues only mixes well with stuff like the sword, fists, and rail which launch multiple attacks in quick succession.
How do you guys feel about playing Hades with a controller?
@brisk trail spins proc multiple times as it hits multiple times
The spin is not just a single hit
Thank you.
U can get multiple stacks of chill and poison like that
@prisma cloak I only use controller
I prefer mouse and keyboard.
voice command is the best
Has there been any word by the devs if everyone's progress will be reset when version 1.0 hits?
Nothing 100% in stone, but probably not.
It will not be! It's in the FAQ!
They mentioned they don't intend to wipe saves at 1.0 launch in there.
Under the "horrible bugs" question

I imagine a lot of players are going to make a new save though.
The story will flow as it properly should once the game's complete, rather than what is effectively two years a chaos f-ing around and altering creation.
When we get closer to 1.0 I probably will to see how progression changed? But since I started in Long Winter it's a bit too soon for that.
I started a new save because I hadn't played since launch
Huge difference in so many ways
It's Friday afternoon so I can play Hades and not feel bad I just realised 
I probably won't do it until 1.0. I know the story will flow better and I have to skill to deal with the early game now, but I don't want to have to recollect everything just yet-
I'll do a Hell Mode save for 1.0
It's really cool to look at the numbers on boons and weapons on release and compare it to now
Every weapon has had a damage buff I'm pretty sure
And omg casts are so amazing with the innate tracking
Iâll do a non-hellmode save for 1.0 and then go back to my hellmode save after Iâve experienced the story as intended
i made a new game save and beat the final boss on 2nd run
non hell mode though
I definitely believe the game is in many ways easier than first release.
It certainly is
Except for shield players
There's nothing that could ever make shield better than on release
compare to when i first play, it took 30+ tries to complete a run
I just wish they improve controller support on 1.0.
I was one of the early people to semi-consistenly clear hydra on release, and even then it was like 20 tries for first clear
And then I dumped 10 in grinding a sword clear
what about the heroes
What issues do you experience on the controller, Bou?

I've been using one the whole time and personally haven't run into any issues with it.
Release bow was maybe stronger than it is now but also felt so much worse
Bow at one point skipped Hydra.
I wasnât involved in the community back then but the hydra took something like that many tries for me too
One shotting hydra wasn't ok
But then it was consistent
Hydra back then was really awful as well
So many heads
It was so awful
@dark cradle I started with a controller (Steam Controller). It was good but then I had to continue playing on mouse and keyboard. The moment I tried the rail gun, I felt more freedom using my special and fog cast.
It took forever though
I've never used a Steam Controller! I switch back and forth from using my Xbone controller and my PS4 controller.
The main one had much more brutal attacks, did them during head phase, and you couldn't attack the pink projectiles to destroy them
@dark cradle when I need to use special with a controller I needed to use my left analog to target the AOE. The right analog or trackpad is kinda useless
Usually just use the Xbox one though. I've never even tried the M+K, my set up isn't in a position where I'm really able to comfortably use a mouse and keyboard for too long, I don't really have a desk and just sorta use my computer from my bed.
You know the attack where the hydra just pukes projectiles at you? Imagine that but they are further arced so it's harder to cover from and you can't attack them
When I used the M&K, I could dash back while shooting at front.
Keyboard+mouse is usually better for rail, but controller is super clean for like, everything else. hard to beat instant special targeting. And gun itself isn't too bad with it, either.
Rail Special just auto-aims at nearest enemy for me.
Having independent aiming is something I can never lose
I meant I wasnât in the community like I wasnât interacting with people
Ah
I can aim it manually by holding the Special button and using the stick.
Yeah fair
But Iâve been playing all along
Meg was so tanky on release
I'd probably be using the mouse and keyboard if I had an actual desk for my desktop.
I kinda wish she was still, honestly. Being able to almost oneshot her with an Arthur crit feels mean.
I use pillows on the couch haha
I have my mouse on the arm of the couch so my wrist isnât bent
I can sit up in bed and do it, I guess, I just don't feel as comfortable in that position as I do seated in a chair.
Iâm unfortunately familiar with repetitive stress injuries
Also I play the piano
Nice!
Record a bunch of 4 bar chord/melody progression loops for me in various keys/BPMs and I'll sample you.
On days where I practice a lot I donât do more than one hades run
Or none at all
I play fighting games on a Hitbox (basically keyboard in controller form google it), and that's still so so much nicer on the hands
It'd be p. swag to sample Chopin
Maybe isnât a bad idea
Chopin's lit tbh
I was just about to say
Nocturne in E-flat major, Op. 9, No. 2
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It's my fave Chopin piece
This in E-flat tho
He gave some GOOD cello parts in his cello sonatas, I can't help but be a fan
My husband is getting back into cello, I should take a look at those
Waltz No. 1 in E-Flat Major is good.
I wish I knew how to do more classical/orchestral composition.
Thatâs me playing
Hell yeah it works.
I can do it better now but I havenât taken another video since then
Any chance you know what BPM you were playing at.
I can just tap it out if you didn't but it'd be easier for me if you knew
I donât, sorry, and it varies in the different sections
Opening section is 65 BPM.
It was showing my name so I deleted it, but if someone wants to see it just pm me
Rolling Knuckle and Long Knuckle for the fists dont work together
the dash strike doesnt get the increased range
Anyone know if Rolling Knuckle gets Artemis's dash attack increase even if you don't press space?
I believe so.
yeah, it counts as a dash-strike
Haha good luck sampling a piece with heavy rubato like all of chopin (although in truth, taking 4 bar samples would be quite doable as there are plenty of bars that are at a constant tempo, but the thought did make me giggle) @dark cradle
Apologies if this doesn't fit the channel; I like the idea that Zag is a/the God of life/blood/vitality.
Feels thematically appropriate
Definitely doable, but also extremely tedious @primal whale
Done right I bet it'd be awesome
It's why despite all the flak he gets, I gotta give props to Kanye as a producer. He's flipped some crazy samples in some wild time signatures and put them into 4/4.
He's got talent, no denying that
He's also seemingly a little bit unhinged unfortunately. I'll stop with the off topic comments now mods
This hour feels like the wild west of discord servers though; anything goes and few people care
Haha
mods are asleep, quick post weeb off topic shiet

cant wait for rail/shield 4th aspect though
@primal whale I offered to re-record any specific desired bits, so if I need to play at a constant tempo for a specific reason I can do it
bow 4th aspect i need you
@mellow vessel Although introducing rubato into beat making would be pretty novel
rail is cool but neither of the non-base aspects appeal to me at all
hestia is decent
like aphro cast is straight up worse than normal cast with hera
its more like worse than melee range now
you didnt use it?
you will notice the range is changed
now its a wide rectangle with tiny range
i havent played much these last few days
i got one of my only wins with crush shot
got it to like level 7 and had flurry cast
Is it true all save files will be deleted when 1.0 is out?
It's not some online game, they cant just delete all saves... Unless they mess up like Real BAD.
And make game just not recognise them.
But they did a pretty good job on that so far.
Good to know. Thanks.
Will I run into horrible bugs or lose progress during Early Access?
Weâll do our best to prevent this. We have never wiped progress during Early Access development and intend to preserve saved progress through our v1.0 launch. If your game crashes and you lose progress, please check #h1-tech-fixes for how to recover save data.
From #hades-faq
Hi! Does anyone get annoyed by the delayed fishing spot sound when doing speed/time limit runs? i often find myself exiting the room when the sound goes off
yeah Ive had to deal with that on a few occasions
I've noticed in the code that there are a lot of "backwards compatability" things that when an old save is loaded, the data gets converted to new form
they very much do try to make saves stable across updates
does the game freeze for anyone when you get hit or is that just me?
like if i haven't gotten hit in a while it'll just freeze up on the first frame that i do get hit
Yeah its normal
oh ok, i hope they fix that on the next update, iirc they're working on backend stuff right?
I don't think its a bug
are you sure? it definitely doesn't seem intentional to me.
I have that as well but rarely, in my case i made the mistake of installing the game on my HDD instead of SSD.
yeah that'll do it i suppose. now that you mention it i did the same thing haha.
let me just move the game and pretend i never made that mistake
Do we know if we're getting all the Olympians in the future? (i.e. Hera, Hephaestus, Apollo)
No
some might not show up as boons I imagine
We are getiing max 1 "new" character at best.
the character isnt an olympian, right?
That kinda sucks actually but I guess not every Olympian would want Zagreus up there
It'd be cool if zag could convince different subsets of gods to help him
instead of them all wanting to help him for random reasons
zeus and poseidon should probably be more exclusive to eachother
but under certain circumstances would work together
etc
hi everyone how do i gain access to the admin chamber?
did you have the dream/flashback about it already?
nope
okay, you'll get that sequence at some point, and after that it shows up in the broker's menu. iirc it costs a few diamonds
cool thx bro 
I think titan's blood should buy a greater bonus for the Rail than just ammo, maybe a +1 or +2% increase in damage, or a faster reload speed per level.
@acoustic sphinx It depends of the aspect you seek to improve.
Well, not having to reload as often is nice in itself.
Except that nobody relies on the attack for rail damage
It's all about the bombs,.baby
The rail with Zeus few boons on attack is just destroying crowds like nothing
The amount of dialogs in this game is insane lmao
Also, I discovered that the Arthur Aspect's special negates the lava's movement speed debuff, which I thought was kind of weird and that it shouldn't be there.
@rocky cedar actually, this is expected. Lava is counted as a trap, last patch added immunity to all traps while in Artur's field
Oh? That's kinda cool.
Never knew it counted as a trap.
Kinda always seemed like an environmental hazard instead of a trap.
Yeah... I found that out the hard way when I turned on heightened security
you can also find that out if you get the trap damage curse
Itâs not that much of an issue except if you also have extreme measures on the hydra fight
But somehow broken pot of final boss does not seem to be counted as a trap
However I was immune to the lava damage even while not affected by Arthur's Field.
They used to
Which I thought was odd.
Count as traps
Also, you can find interesting behavior in Satyr's tunnels
I'll delete that other suggestion though.
Flying sawblades are not damaging you, yet slowing down in the field
I mean, right now I'm completely immune to lava and I don't even have the field up.
So after small amount of time you can just stand there, surrounded by 2-6 blades which are doing huge dmg to anyone who's trying to reach you
Yeah, that one is a bug
Yeah definitely
Report it with f10 in game
They donât do bugs in the feedback channel
I see. I did.
Oh I know. It's fine.
if you already
d it, im gonna delete it from the feedback channel as it shouldnt be there, if you dont mind 
Go on ahead.
Thank you, by the way.
For takin' the time to sort through all this stuff and get it all fixed up.
Where can I submit a bug?