lol
#h1-discussion
lucid sequoia
surreal shale
That's what im saying 😅
mild needle
surreal shale
I just managed to finish the run 😅
lucid sequoia
no turn the volume up
mild needle
i like how hades actually does his job now
main plume
Thank you for the update, I'm enjoying it SGG
And that you for your attention gentlemen
surreal shale
I don't know anything about job
main plume
See you
surreal shale
Oh god am i gonna get spoiled rip
lucid sequoia
i like how hades actually does his job now
@mild needle for me he says ''Granted'' sometimes lol
surreal shale
????
lucid sequoia
oh
surreal shale
Im so confused
mild needle
charon
main plume
a dude
warm elbow
Is charon right?
quiet lake
yeah, he's got an oar
lucid sequoia
it's the Lich from ETG
knotty epoch
It's Cad Bane :^)
surreal shale
lucid sequoia
i wish charon traded cute words with me, will I finally be able to live my dreams?
warm elbow
Charon is best girl
surreal shale
i wish charon traded cute words with me, will I finally be able to live my dreams?
@lucid sequoia He is already doing that 😄
novel wasp
ITS SANS
lucid sequoia
he says ''Hmm'' and a muffled ''Oof''
surreal shale
He is a really philosophic talker
he says ''Hmm'' and a muffled ''Oof''
@lucid sequoia Man... It's sometimes hard to understand all that deep stuff he talks about...
surreal shale
We are just too stupid to understand
lucid sequoia
ha hell joke
warm elbow
Charon is the mastermind behind it all
lucid sequoia
no doubt
but
the mastermind behind the mastermind is 100% bouldy
i don't trust bouldy
this is not a trustable face
surreal shale
How can you not trust that friendly face?
That's probobly how he earned everyone's trust
knotty epoch
You know how in some morality-based games you change appearance depending on what side you are? Evil always have cracks in their face. You know who else has cracks in their face? BOULDY.
lucid sequoia
just wait when he becomes the last boss and rolls over you for a 1 hit kill
You know how in some morality-based games you change appearance depending on what side you are? Evil always have cracks in their face. You know who else has cracks in their face? BOULDY.
@knotty epoch ExAcTlY
surreal shale
He throws rocks at you
warm elbow
Sisyphus was controlled by bouldy all along
surreal shale
lucid sequoia
lol
lucid sequoia
crack haha
surreal shale
4 chan will be scared of us after we manage to pull this off
lucid sequoia
i'm really sleepy sorry
surreal shale
It's cool 😄
warm elbow
My dad works at Tartarus, trust me dude
surreal shale
I have seen worse 😛
surreal shale
W-Well! My Dad's Bill Gates!
lucid sequoia
is your dad charon?
warm elbow
No, he does office work
surreal shale
Btw i gotta ask...
What does SuperGiant give for Translators?
I can be a translator 😄
(Im probobly going to get spoiled with alot of things but meh)
knotty epoch
surreal shale
(Anything to help out the team i guess :D)
Oh wow
I didn't know this channel existed
Thanks 😄
I have done some translation jobs for other games aswell so i just wanted to ask 😄
warm elbow
I would like to help translate the game to Spanish but i don't have previous experience 😦
lucid sequoia
I could help with the brazilian
surreal shale
Oof they don't have Turkish on their list
stuck comet
Oh my god
Every time I fight the hydra he does something cheeky and I lose my revive and GOD
lucid sequoia
some of the dialog is a little bit out of place
acoustic lantern
when my fisher boon proposal has 20+ thumbs up and not a single thumbs down. DJ Khaled, suffering from success
kappa
surreal shale
Welp rio i guess
rip
If anyone needs a Turkish translarion i'll be here lol
Just dm me or something
fringe plover
@raw matrix thx for the heads up!
lucid sequoia
rip
@surreal shale ''However, please get in touch with us via email and let us know what's on your mind in this regard, so we can keep the feedback in mind as we move forward. We expect to consider additional language options after our v1.0 launch (planned for sometime in 2020).''
well
idk
balmy goblet
dear god, the mittens time stop still wasn't fixed?
stuck comet
Me: Gets the last key I need
Okay, time to let myself die
...stop reviving
balmy goblet
oh okay the lag is still there but it's quite playable now
worthy egret
Hades just crashed on me when talking to sisyphus
Had the kitchen mittens on if thats in any way important
Restarted the game it crashed again
balmy goblet
F10 in game for bug report
it sends your config info as well so it's SGG's preferred method
lucid sequoia
Restarted the game it crashed again
@worthy egret crashing on dialogue is happening on computers with 4GB Ram
they're already looking for a fix but i'd still F10 that
balmy goblet
i mean... sisyphus is a thick boy but i don't think he should take the whole 4 gigs
junior robin
something about how nyx looks vs how she sounds feels so off
she is pretty but
the voice just doesnt fit the look for me
karmic oasis
I love it, but it still takes getting used to not viewing her as static wallpaper in the flower power corner
junior robin
its less that and more her voice sounds motherly
karmic oasis
I also love the new hynos model
junior robin
and her design feels like a wicked witch
karmic oasis
Eh, different strokes I guess
karmic oasis
They toned down the reverb, so I think it works
junior robin
its just the voice that feels off for the thing
karmic oasis
Her voice is the number one reason I was sad the story with her stopped before the update, so I just like it regardless of appearance. I think part of the problem is confirmation bias of a sort. We are used to the veiled, mysterious nyx. So her voice becomes associated with that. Now she has a major makeover, but the same voice, so it takes some getting use to
worthy egret
I love it tbh
worthy egret
She feels much more powerful now
And i think she should since she is one of the most powerful entities
At least i think she is, mythology wise
stiff summit
Can anyone tell me how Gods' Chosen is as useful if not better than Gods' Pride?
worthy egret
Zeus was scared of her in a legend, thats enough confirmation for me
karmic oasis
Chaos, speaking of which, is my favorite character by far
worthy egret
I love Chaos so much
karmic oasis
I love the personification of them, the art, the voice, the music
worthy egret
YES
lucid sequoia
I like Cerberus
karmic oasis
its... really unique and weird and wonderful, and something that felt so Supergiant-y, but also nothing else theyve done before
and yet, I feel like he is the Process too.
so unique but reminiscent.
delicate arrow
isnt meg technically zagreus' sister?
karmic oasis
no
delicate arrow
oh ok then , my bad 
junior robin
shhe was adopted by nyx
delicate arrow
so, technically his sister , although not by blood
karmic oasis
Meg was sort of fostered by Nyx though, isnt that brought up in the game?
Megaera is primordial though, from before the titans IIRC
but AFTER Nyx
delicate arrow
i see
was about to mention how zag wants to be with meg even though theyre brother and sister
stuck comet
That.. is a good point. Okay yeah, Zag would get ruined
karmic oasis
they arent brother and sister, and they definitely werent raised together
karmic oasis
megaera is aeons older than zagreus, Nyx just seems to foster a lot of cthonic entities during their formative years, as much as they hav eone
junior robin
Nyx adopted Meg, Hades definitely wouldnt recognize that
karmic oasis
thematically, they all owe allegaince to the night
delicate arrow
any hentai artists looking at this are having a field day, ngl
opaque nexus
Trying to come up with a smash bros moveset for zagreus
dark cradle
Final Smash is a Father-Son Kamehameha Laser Beam Attack
opaque nexus
Problem is that he doesn’t have many attacks that go up
dark cradle
He has the uppercut now
delicate arrow
dash-upper
dark cradle
With the fists Zag feels like Little Mac from Smash to me.
junior robin
that wont ever happen
opaque nexus
Neutral b shoots a cast, side b throws spear, down b is nova, up b is... something
junior robin
so I wouldnt bother worrying about it
broken dragon
If it is just for fun, just be creative. Hades doesn't really have a vertical axis. You could make change some spear slashes to be in an overhead arc.
opaque nexus
Also there’s a smash-esque game called rivals of aether with steam workshop compatibility so someone could mod him in if they wanted
dark cradle
YOU TAKE THAT BACK
HADES does too have a vertical axis
shh
it'll be okay hades
u exist on x and y planes it's ok
dark cradle
o:
jade grove
@dark cradle consider: the fact that you can dash directly up the walls in asphodel
delicate arrow
oh
dark cradle
I don't do that, I obey laws of physics and walk up the staircases.
nah jk i do do that
i don't want to think about it
That means Zag uppercuts aren't uppercuts at all.
jade grove
They're just... cuts...!?
balmy goblet
they are, just vertically challenged
delicate arrow
now im imaging the fists as bent scissors
novel wasp
They Upper
delicate arrow
speaking of which , has anyone found a decent god for fists?
jovial nimbus
Artie for Special for me
Demeter seems nice on attack
Zeus is a bit underwhelming for Fist Attack
jade grove
You what, zeus is awesome on it
jovial nimbus
Zeus is awesome on Rail. But the same mechanics seems.. meh on Fist
jade grove
Lightning fists do the same dps as zeus rail
Same attack interval
Better sustain in fact, because the fist delay is less than two reloads I think?
*1 reload
jovial nimbus
It's the same reason why I hate the Delta upgrade on Rail I guess.
For me, Demeter Fist Attack > Zeus Attack
jade grove
Delta is actually better on dash. Worse on normal.
Normal attack gets nerfed dps, dash attack actually gets slightly buffed dps
jovial nimbus
Oh that's why. I play with mouse and put Dash on right click, so Dash attacks are not my cup of tea.
Otherwise, I should just plug in a console control and just do dash attacks all days like certain streamer
Speaking of Control, does anyone have issue with the constant setting reset?
I don't know why everytime I open the game the Controls setting just reset back to defaults for me
balmy goblet
loving the new voice lines for Charon btw
delicate arrow
how do you guys reckon artemis attack with aphrodite special would be for fists?
dark cradle
Art anything on Fists is a good time already.
balmy goblet
pretty good i guess
delicate arrow
i really like talos , tbh
stuck comet
What's artemis attack do again?
delicate arrow
crits
stuck comet
Oh right.
I feel like that'd be good, paired with the crit damage boost maybe
Can't you do that
delicate arrow
you can
stuck comet
K, I know it certainly works well with the Spear, why not with the fists?
Also. Is it intentional for you to be able to dodge while charge the spin attack to close distance with the rest of the enemies?
Cause if that is, that's gotta make poseidon's boons pretty good
stuck comet
Oh yeah. It lets you hit most of your spins plus it still counts as a dodge, so pair it with the deflect dodge
It might work with artemis dash? What does that do again
stuck comet
Oh, no. The dash attack is specifically the sweep afterwards, the spin wouldn't be affected
short flame
Flashbacks to the good old days when Artemis dash buffed your next 2 attacks and you could get a buff on the spin
stuck comet
Rip
But. It's still pretty nice for bullethells, especially good with a special's reflect ability
dark cradle
I love Art's crits but I feel liked they don't become like, GREAT, until you get the Marked boon as well.
short flame
When you crit an enemy, it applies a mark to another nearby enemy, the mark increases your crit chance against that target by like 50%
stuck comet
Oh christ.
short flame
So the pattern becomes: fish for a crit with your base 20% chance, then once it marks someone, target them instead
dark cradle
Essentially just guarantees crits on enemies as long as you keep smacking them down.
short flame
The mark goes away once you crit them, but then it applies the mark again on someone else
stuck comet
Oh, that would be amazing
dark cradle
Artemis is best girl for a reason.
short flame
Feels like Artemis is the best for stacking multiple boons
Crit on attack, mark, extra crit damage, even more extra crit damage to armored targets
dark cradle
Hers definitely seem to synergize the best within themselves.
stuck comet
Oh btw guys, hate to change the topic real quick but have you guys tried starting games with 150 health yet
dark cradle
Oh yeah.
stuck comet
I don't die(I say as I nearly die to the second boss like an idiot)
dark cradle
I used Cerb keepsake for a while
Until I finally unlocked all the rest and got to maxing them out
stuck comet
Is there a good damage-based keepsake?
dark cradle
I like the Butterfly but it requires that you chamber clear without taking any damage to get the buff.
stuck comet
that's dumb
dark cradle
Most of the keepsakes aren't damage and instead influence your next Boon or just give you health/dodge/etc.
The Plume from Hermes is nice because if you clear quickly it stacks Dodge and Move Speed.
short flame
Doesn't the extra health go away after you switch off Cerberus's keepsake?
stuck comet
Hm. I might stick to being tanky
dark cradle
Yeah if you switch you lose the extra 50
stuck comet
And yeah, I think so. If I really want a certain build for a run, I just switch to the collar after the first boss
dark cradle
You can go to 200 now with Cerb keepsake and Arthur aspect on Sword
short flame
I start with the extra gold keepsake at the beginning cause you keep that
stuck comet
Oh. I think the 100 you get from the mirror is good enough tbh
dark cradle
I typically start with the God I want to focus on that run or I start with Plume/Butterfly.
You'll get to a point, Stomp, where the concept of clearing a chamber without taking damage won't seem so difficult.
stuck comet
I mean, I do that often
dark cradle
Eventually you'll be able to do it super consistently through at least the first two Biomes.
stuck comet
Just, I really don't like that cause 'uh oh, I took damage! Can't wait to die in the next chamber'
short flame
But the butterfly bonus also goes away once you switch off, doesn't it?
dark cradle
If you switch off.
I don't run Butterfly with intentions to change it out later
That's for damage runs.
short flame
That's pretty hardcore but I don't know if I'd be comfortable not taking acorn at the end
dark cradle
I'll only switch it if I absolutely failed to stack it by Elysium.
Because it's by Elysium that both Plume and Butterfly get a bit harder to stack up.
Plume especially. Enemy spawns just won't stop coming by the time the timer runs out for it.
slim flume
guys isnt it possible to get the last sword aspect?
I dont get it (i have all other sword aspects unlocked)
short flame
I hear you should go to the spoilers channel for that
junior fjord
There is a biome after elysium?????????? I can barely beat the minotaur by putting 8 casts in him.
slim flume
@short flame last time someone said lore goes there, also it's in the patch notes I just dont get it
but I guess that was more of a hint
ty !
dark cradle
@slim flume After doing a random amount of runs ||talk to Nyx between runs and she'll give you the words to unlock the aspect||
slim flume
ty, damn milf isnt there when I need her
dark cradle
They never are rip
harsh fulcrum
Can someone explain to me how Hera bow works with the new auto reload mirror
because it seems to not work
dark cradle
Uh I haven't tried it but you should just be able to reload them into the Bow with the Cast command once they've regenned into your inventory
harsh fulcrum
Whtas weird is that sometimes bloodstones dissapear and don't auto regen
someitmes it shoots 3 bloodstones even though i can only load one
and the bonus from upgrading hera bow doesn't seem to do anything
dark cradle
I'd mention it in the feedback channel
harsh fulcrum
Guan Yu?
dark cradle
Maybe they mean Guan Yu
grand crystal
i prefer old guan yu
harsh fulcrum
Old Guan Yu was stupid af
dark cradle
i prefer the old kanye
slim charm
Oh because it bounces now
grand crystal
becasuse now i cant camp ||hades|| while he is shooting lazers
harsh fulcrum
Not stupid in not fun, but stupid as in overpowerd
stiff trellis
Also
dark cradle
They also changed ||FB arena|| so camping it would be hard with old GY anyway
harsh fulcrum
How?
dark cradle
Removed most of the walls.
stiff trellis
I've recently discovered how dumb achilles aspect with the special bounce is
dark cradle
it's just two pillars now
harsh fulcrum
The ||lazer attack|| is still dodgable using the main source of cover
dark cradle
If you can get to it.
It was just way easier before to dash any direction and find some cover.
civic prism
Yeah the lasers will mess you up without broken spearpoint
dark cradle
Not that I'm complaining.
harsh fulcrum
I foudn its easiest to fight the boss near the pillars anyways so i have never been further than two dashes away from a pillar at any point
dark cradle
I used to cheese him with the walls right at the entrance to the area.
stiff trellis
Also
Athena gauntlets with attackspeed bonus is
Legit nuts
Deflect any and everything
stiff trellis
You're like a lategame monk
Get the hermes trinket as well
And you have a fearsome dodge chance to top it off
dark cradle
Yeah Plume is fun on the fists
slim charm
Evasion tank
stiff trellis
Oh
brazen isle
If you can’t get Athena’s boon on attack for whatever reason I’ve found that her dash boon works well as well
slim flume
her dash boon is the best in the game
brazen isle
Granted I use dash a lot w gauntlets so your mileage may vary
slim charm
I'd say some of my other favorite dashes are Art and Zeus.
dark cradle
I use dash a lot with everything
slim charm
Yeah the 1000% dash strike to armor on the fists would be great with art dash. Delete armor immediately.
slim flume
the moment you take the sword throw aspect and dont get a good throw Q_Q
stuck comet
I do love that this game so far hasn't gotten old
I die and die and die- BUT I GOTTA GO BACK
stiff trellis
Man
stuck comet
I think the fact that you get to choose your weapons at the start makes things less painful when you die
stuck comet
Oh damn, that's great to hear
brazen isle
same here, sometimes its like hitting my head against a brick wall but when i finally bust through the wall its SO WORTH IT
worthy dagger
Yep. When it fully releases it’s probs gonna be the most polished game I’ve ever played
stiff trellis
Yeah
stuck comet
Lol, yeah. "Gotta break the brick GOTTA BR- YES"
Also, I feel like my skills are actually increasing. That's always good
stiff trellis
Honestly Supergiant have done a fantastic job adapting their combat style to the speed and reactive nature of roguelikes
worthy dagger
Agreed
brazen isle
indeed!
stuck comet
Not to mention, Supergiant seems to just be a good company
brazen isle
also @stiff trellis i love your name in this server so much
stiff trellis
Thank you!
worthy dagger
Not having a cool down on dashes and being able to cancel basically any action really helps make the experience fluid and awesome
stiff trellis
The reaction and movement felt a lot more like bastion originally
The dash used to have a massive amount of ending lag
stuck comet
Yes! And technically, there is a small cooldown but it's barely noticeable when paired with all the stuff that you get during the game
brazen isle
it is a lovely day (or night) in the Underworld, and you are a horrible Gorgon 
(dusa's not horrible, i love her so much)
stiff trellis
Excuse me
It's an awful day(?) In the house of hades, and you are a very busy gorgon
brazen isle
there we go, much better
stuck comet
It's an awful day, and your brother killed your crazy murder-brained sister for the third time this week.
worthy dagger
I wonder how Dusa applied for the job, considering she can’t write an application or resume
stiff trellis
Hm.
stuck comet
The snakes
stiff trellis
Oh right
slim flume
it is hell you dont apply for anything there
stuck comet
Did I mention that this game kinda reminds me of Diablo, and that I love that style, along with the style of this game by itself to cause such a great experience
worthy dagger
Makes sense. D3 is more sorta arcadey like hades
dark cradle
All my roommates have said it looks like Diablo 3 when they've seen me playing.
I think it's mostly the isometric camera angle that makes them say that tho
stiff trellis
Valid
stuck comet
It's a slightly more cartooney style of Diablo 3's art
stiff trellis
The artstyle is beautiful
worthy dagger
More cel shaded
dark cradle
It is genuinely a gorgeous game.
stuck comet
Lol
worthy dagger
The lyre you mean?
stuck comet
Now I wanna see the very first iteration of this game, brb
stiff trellis
Ye
stuck comet
It's most certainly different
worthy dagger
It’s a cool feature. Pluck it a few times before every run
slim charm
When you go up to it it says "play?" With a question mark, does that ever go away?
Am I just not yet practiced enough?
slim flume
since I know B opens all the boons I'm so much more happy about the game
worthy dagger
I don’t think so. You just get better over time
stiff trellis
It's good to get some advice from someone more experienced too
slim charm
Zag plays actual tunes and Orph said something about it but the question mark remains, mocking me.
dark cradle
I just pluck it 25 times between runs, I don't even think I have to at this point but it's become a habit.
stiff trellis
It's also funny seeing zag's reactions
worthy dagger
Yeah he’s like “how does this thing work lol”
dark cradle
I don't blame him, I make music and even I am mystified by the mechanics of string instruments.
worthy dagger
Yeah I played like 8 years of flute and stringed instruments were always an enigma to me
worthy dagger
It was fun
Fallen out of practice since high school but eh, i never practiced anyway lol
dark cradle
That's a mood.
slim flume
guys what can I do with ambrosia instead of selling it?
dark cradle
I do more digital production stuff but I play bass, keys, and a little guitar.
You can use it to progress relationships once you've filled up their Hearts enough.
jade grove
@slim flume use it fot Companion keepsakes and the relationships leading to them.
It takes a lot.
dark cradle
Mainly Dusa's.
slim flume
but they dont want my sh*t anymore
worthy dagger
Dusa’s the meta slave option : P
But yes hers is quite good. Definitely one of the only ones to use on higher heat etc
fluid jacinth
old boon look was better
worthy dagger
I dig the trail leading up. Maybe just have them rotate slower or go back to the crystalline look
lean spire
Is this update a good point to restart the game? I feel like a lot of flow and progression has changed and I wasted away a lot of quest resources becuase there was nothing good to spend them on at the time.
civic prism
Dusa doesn't like me since I went with Megaera
feral path
Hello. Did someone know if Hades will be relased on Switch?
dark cradle
I sure hope it will be!
They said the next update will be focusing on multiplatform availability so.
feral path
Yes, i read it a few minutes ago
tawny patio
It's not explicitly stated on the roadmap, but I believe eventually it will.
feral path
If they decide to make Switch port, i'll definetly buy switch
dark cradle
Right now I'm playing the Pokemon Mystery Dungeon DX remake.
unreal zealot
So how are people liking the Mogma Mitts? Haven't had time to try them out yet.
dark cradle
I love them so much
It's the exact thing I wanted, when we were all theorizing I explicitly said I want "gauntlets" so that I can "run around and punch everything".
ty SGG
unreal zealot
Nice! I was hoping for Hephaestus Hammer, but I'll take these 😁
dark cradle
Well with the Arthur aspect it's kind of bigger and slower so it's hammerlike but.
Not a real hammer sadly
unreal zealot
🤷
dark cradle
On the sword that is
jade grove
I was hoping for a magic aspect, because I like spells better than melee, but I have liked my time with the new ones.
Aspect of Deyeeter
stuck comet
Me, clearing out all the armored archers that keep running away with a magical bolt of death: "Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, STOP!"
dark cradle
Hahaha
unreal zealot
lots of dash-chasing, huh
jade grove
Also @dark cradle about three hours before the aspect dropped, I was joking about it being Hades 3 &Knuckles
I was right
stuck comet
I smack them to stunlock them cause poseidon, then I throw a bolt at em which deals like 400 damage because armored+crit
safe crow
Twin Fists, Aspect of Deyeeter: your special is replaced with YEET, which you can YEET enemies, including bosses
Does no dmg by itself, but funny to watch
safe crow
doesn;t do dmg by itself
Just gotta use the enviroment
fathom heath
I'd love to see it as an April fools one off
stuck comet
And you get a keepsake called 'bowling glove', which lets you hit enemies into each other for extra damage
safe crow
you get commemorative Shovel Knight helmet too
stuck comet
Replace the gauntlets with shovel knight helmets
fathom heath
Oh damn, where if you dash you head slap the enemies with the shovel
fathom heath
Oh hey, if I want to unlock the gloves how do I? Don't seem to have that as an option yet
Or should I ask thid in spoilers?
stuck comet
I got it by unlocking everything else
safe crow
tfw I get 3 flourish Chaos aspect in Tartarus
stuck comet
Kinda like the gun
safe crow
ON STYGIAN BLADE
stuck comet
Oh christ
fathom heath
I have everything else unlocked?
safe crow
I get Artemis Special too
stuck comet
Do you? That's odd, cause I got it after unlocking all my stuff. Spoiler tab for all that tho
dark cradle
Dang the kick hammer on Demeter aspect fists is WILD
fathom heath
Yeah, I'll switch over
slim flume
||bow + aspect to load throw + artemis double throw boon + festival throw boon + chaos extra throws + chaos extra throw dmg > all ||
feral path
I need to complete one run to unlock new weapon and admin chamber?
neat cipher
Weapon unlocked for me after 1 run, the other stuff took 2 or more i think.
stuck comet
Just killed Theusus with a ranged spear build, that was smooth
neat cipher
Taste of his own medicine
slim flume
just one shotted an elite rat x)
worthy egret
I love my oven mittens
stuck comet
Heck*(Sorry bro can't curse) yes, just killed Ceberus(Not really)
worthy egret
ORAORAORAORAORAORA
jade grove
ATATATATATATA
brisk trail
That's a spoiler, Stomp.
high seal
ok
trail pendant
how does one get the new aspect of stygian
stuck comet
Well, whoops
shadow mist
Poseidon special fists is already a yeet aspect
unborn spoke
i dunno
forest grotto
does anyone know how to make the administrative room usable?
i already bought access
jade grove
should just be allowed to enter
forest grotto
correct and see all your previous runs listed but supposedly in there is a way to help orpheus and eurydice
jade grove
probably continue to talk to Orpheus and Eury
forest grotto
nothing new the only thing i haven't done with them otherwise is the practice my instrument playing and that's going no where as well
unborn spoke
probly im working on that very thing right now
forest grotto
also arthur is super slow lol never combine that with daedalus vampire blade lol
forest grotto
exactly it sorta works right? especially if you use the centaur hearts (a lot of centaur hearts)
also athena only pretty much except for your attack movers
moves*
if hermes ever bothered to show up and give me increased attack speed that combination would've been amazing
shadow mist
What does Excalibur do, then?
forest grotto
increased health and slow down area
brisk trail
Slower, harder hitting attacks and Special, and what Spyder said.
forest grotto
plus slow moves
brisk trail
3rd hit of the combo deals 200 damage at base.
forest grotto
i love that 3rd hit but that's truly being super greedy
shadow mist
Do you have to do anything special to unlock, or will it show up in time?
ancient hemlock
I cannot see the new weapn.The gauntlet what should I do to see them?
forest grotto
the gauntlet is just do a few runs and poof
shadow mist
Speaking of Nyx, it feels weird. It talking to a shadowy robe anymore. And her model looks kind of surreal.
forest grotto
the slow down area on arthur also increases your defense a little
when you stand in it
ancient hemlock
Aaaa so they appaer after some runs? Cool thank you
forest grotto
sux in asphodel
livid cargo
@shadow mist to unlock excal?
forest grotto
nyx
shadow mist
Yes, Max
tiny sorrel
Damn those twin fists are fun as hell, I smacked the last boss down on my first run through with them, it was almost as fun as pummel the life out of Theseus
jade grove
spoiler
forest grotto
i'll bet
the new mirror things aren't very good in my opinion i hate them
tiny sorrel
@jade grove oh, did I need a spoiler tag?
shadow mist
Maybe if you beat up Hypnos, he’ll give you the rest of his lunch money again.
shadow mist
The only new mirror option I’m 100% on board with is the one that gives 6% per god you have boons with. Because heck if I’m going to concentrate on stacking status and not just spamming what I’m good at.
tiny sorrel
I like how I can switch between the two types of mirror buffs
forest grotto
did anyone else have their nyx trinket go back to 0 after this update or was that just me?
worthy egret
Me as well
shadow mist
The problem with darkness regen is that you then need to pick up darkness...
tiny sorrel
@forest grotto they reworked the Nyx keepsake, reset it
worthy egret
The regen is pretty good once you do, though
forest grotto
oh i saw it went back to 0 and didn't wanna go near it after
tiny sorrel
I've been running through trying to unlock the new sword aspect, is there something particular I must do or is it random?
worthy egret
Nyx related i think
jade grove
@tiny sorrel Final boss identity is a story spoiler, so yeah
forest grotto
just talk to nyx every chance you get
shadow mist
Damage in first hit might be good for Hestia aspect. Bad against bosses, unless you can reset it, though.
tiny sorrel
@jade grove My bad, I'll use the spoiler tag from now on
feel free to delete my comment
faint sluice
||How do I unlock the fists?||
forest grotto
just play a few runs malakiax
tiny sorrel
yeah, they just showed up after a run for me
forest grotto
me as well
tiny sorrel
no special requirements from what I could tell
jade grove
not a mod
shadow mist
Die. Repeat as desired.
jade grove
just edit your comment?
forest grotto
except the key cost lol
tiny sorrel
I fixed it Felis
forest grotto
wasn't his update called the big bad?
brisk trail
Yeah.
forest grotto
did they get rid of the rail's infinite ammo hammer thing i haven't seen it since idk when
brisk trail
Got changed to Delta Chamber.
forest grotto
the 3 burst thing right?
brisk trail
Yes.
forest grotto
ok i think that's only good with the explosive bullets hammer
or hermes increased attack speed
wow hermes is in high demand for some of the newer updates huh?
rustic torrent
I'm curious to know if there'll be a Maul based weapon. Slow hitting, high damage. Or heck, even an Axe. Either one'll be interesting.
forest grotto
i'm more surprised no one has modded in a light saber
feral path
Which aspect for Malfon are u recommend?
rustic torrent
"Give me the Aspect of Obi-Wan Kenobi!"
forest grotto
i've found a few mods but none of them are weapon aspects
rustic torrent
Well, one could only imagine that voice line. 😛
shadow mist
"Hello there"
forest grotto
or jrpg it and just read it
rustic torrent
vague perch
What if there were aspects based on other games?
Like aspect of little mac, slower but harder hitting punches and if you interupt an enemy you get a star to use for a powerful uppercut (max of 3 stars, like punch out)
Or aspect of link, slower but longer ranged sweeps, spin attack special and sword beams at full health.
And then other possibile ones
idk
forest grotto
hey here's a good gauntlet aspect simpire Kratos
vague perch
I think that sounds interesting
forest grotto
someone doesn't lol
midnight bay
I genuinely don’t know what they’re gonna do for rail’s 4th aspect honestly
vague perch
Where you have maybe like a less damaging but way longer ranged swipes for Kratos one
forest grotto
but that's why it would be a mod you don't need it in
i hope it's Dr. Gatling LookingGlass
midnight bay
Like what mythological figure uses G U N
stiff trellis
For Zagreus' neutral special, he uses a gun
forest grotto
the spear is Chinese and the sword is King Arthur of avalon
stiff trellis
They just gove Zag a glock for the 4th aspect
forest grotto
both are not Greek
forest grotto
what's wrong with Dr. Gatling Untitled Dusa Game
alpine stratus
aspect of mario
forest grotto
mario for which weapon?
stiff trellis
But also zag with a glock seems incredibly funny to me
For the bow, they could have the aspect of that persian hero
forest grotto
i'm not denying it would funny but the design of how zag holds the rail makes Dr. Gatling make sense
blissful monolith
Aspect of Dakka
remote turret
what's the difference between death defiance and stubborn defiance
forest grotto
stubborn replaces every room once
stiff trellis
Death defiance is three that last the whole run
brisk trail
Stubborn Defiance recharges every room but caps at 1 per room.
stiff trellis
Stubborn is once every chamber
vague perch
I'm honestly, outside of the meme, thinking we might get like a modern gun for the rail. I can't think of other possibilties, onless they completely turn it on it's head and get like a pirate blunderbus. I know it's further from the timeframe, but they're iconic weapons and maybe the aspects can reach into the future
brisk trail
The 4th Aspect is explicitly a future wielder of the weapons.
forest grotto
blunderbus is mega slow and nobody truly historic uses it
stiff trellis
Could be something like the carbine, or the oneshot weapon from the scrapped daedalus upgrade
remote turret
thanks
sacred apex
Friend had a boon reroll not actually reroll :D
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoldyCoyFloofPeoplesChamp
stiff trellis
Oh, I've had that a couple of times
forest grotto
i know it's trash
stiff trellis
For the gauntlets...
forest grotto
i managed to do it 3 times only 6 showed up on a repeat menu
forest grotto
why not a famous boxer?
brisk trail
Probably gonna be Aspect of Cassius.
forest grotto
MMA fighter?
stiff trellis
Ahh
blissful monolith
The fourth aspect wielders are still mythological; a real person wouldn't work
stiff trellis
True
brisk trail
Guan Yu was a real person.
shadow mist
Is Stubborn Defiance actually ever useful?
vague perch
Aspects of mike tison
brisk trail
He's deified, but he was a real person.
forest grotto
ah chinese dude is real
forest grotto
sun tzu i think
blissful monolith
ah, I didn't know that; I was going on Arthur who probably wasn't real
stiff trellis
Sun Tzu's art of throwing hands
brisk trail
forest grotto
um many historians in england were at one point claiming arthur was real during the roman empire
stiff trellis
How to punch one of many gods in three easy steps
Gun's 4th aspect is the aspect of julius caeser. It fires knifes which stick into enemies
forest grotto
i suppose Lawrence of Arabia could be a rail aspect
stiff trellis
Potentially
stuck comet
"I can show you the world"
vague perch
I don't know any historic figures
brisk trail
So far we've had famous weapons, right? Excalibur and the Frost Fair Blade?
forest grotto
that reference makes no sense to me
forest grotto
i truly hope brunhild is the 4th aspect of the shield
stiff trellis
But seeing as the knights of the round table have been referenced already, I doubt failnaught will be used
stuck comet
Wait, excalibur is a thing what
shadow mist
Aspect of Killer Bean
vague perch
Only thing I could think of when going the norse route would be gugnir, but Odin was a god
brisk trail
And the spear has been taken already.
stiff trellis
I nearly swore by instinct seeing that
stuck comet
WhatGungirexists is that the aspect of Hades?
stiff trellis
It's hard to think of norse heroes
Most of their mythology is focused on the deeds of the gods and giants
shadow mist
@stuck comet, no the spear already has a fourth aspect, is what they mean.
stuck comet
Oh, okay.
stiff trellis
The only one I can remember is the one who competed alongside thor and loki
forest grotto
most norse stories are completely devoted to the gods and their opponents exclusively
stiff trellis
And nearly ran faster than light in a footrace
wary citrus
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stiff trellis
That wasn't funny, go somewhere else
It's the only one where I remember a human actually doing a feat of note
But they didn't have a weapon
They just ran really fast
wary citrus
he thinks I'm joking
shadow mist
Stop trolling, Corona-chan.
forest grotto
i truly think it would make sense to have the 4th bow aspect be from Japan since the original samurai were horseback riding bow wielders
inner saffron
this Nyx pose is incredible, kudos to the art team, the amount of motion and flow here is just :chefkiss:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/96434588309540864/687415711307399168/unknown.png
shadow mist
Or Mongolia
shadow mist
Aspect of Genghis
forest grotto
genghis makes sense as well forgot about him
vague perch
Maybe aspect of Hercules/Heracles since he killed some stuff with his bare hands, but the aspect might have like bear claws bound to zagreus' fists. Idk, that might already be going into myth too much
shadow mist
Bear claw fist weapons? sign me up!
brisk trail
Aspect of Temujin.
forest grotto
the 4th aspect seems to have a running theme of future users
stiff trellis
Future users that are decidedly not greek
languid wing
Are the devs aware of the game crashing when you chat people ?
stiff trellis
The wha
forest grotto
but why didn't they use hercules or heracles for the gauntlets? maybe it would've been too easy
stiff trellis
That should go in feedback, shouldn't it?
brisk trail
Anyone have an idea to why Apollo hasn't been included in the game? Seems odd that one of the more well-known olympians is nowhere to be found, with Demeter supposedly being the last one.
forest grotto
the game has never crashed for me and i've been playing since dionysus update
stiff trellis
The only crashes I had was due to malwarebytes and in the first few updates
languid wing
The game started crashing with nighty night for me.
worthy egret
Hadbthe same issue check the tech help
languid wing
Tech support or tech fix ?
forest grotto
apollo is music and hunt yeah? how would he be any different from his sister artemis anyway?
worthy egret
Support
shadow mist
Apollo is also tied to the sun, isn't he?
forest grotto
if you say the sun he didn't really get that power till rome where helios got forgotten
stiff trellis
To be fair
stiff trellis
Considering that there is no day or night in the underworld
shadow mist
Dang Romans, confusing everybody
stiff trellis
And that you never see the sun at any point ingame
It makes sense that you never see him
forest grotto
romans did basically steal all the culture from their conquered territory
languid wing
Ok thanks. I’ll try that. Gonna start discord on my pc.
brisk trail
You also see no real weather of any kind until you get above ground, so how is that different from adding Demeter?
stiff trellis
I keep forgetting the server icon is animated and the sword flash keeps giving me a fright
forest grotto
hey how about an African god for the gloves 4th aspect since they look sorta like animal claws and all the art i've seen for those gods is related to animals i could be dead wrong though
dapper turtle
Are there any high res wallpapers for this game, the artwork is sick.
stiff trellis
Demeter is the goddess of life and season
civic prism
Can say the same about Christianity and religion in general adopting the popular stuff to Jake evangelism easier
brisk trail
Again, we're going for famous legendary/historical weapons.
civic prism
Yea I wasn't far off saying we'd get like..a caestus
stiff trellis
Zag just gets a pair of brass knuckles
civic prism
Lol, v they're kinda like claw weapons
blissful monolith
the sixth weapon is actually the lack of a weapon
forest grotto
heh aspect of Al Capone for the rail
blissful monolith
beating everyone up with your bare hands
stiff trellis
Aspect of Wolverine
brazen isle
Or boxing gloves
Aspect of Muhammad Ali
brisk trail
I said Aspect of Cassius.
brazen isle
Oh, whoops. Came in late.
shadow mist
It still seems funny to me, picturing Demeter beating people up with the gauntlets
forest grotto
who's cassius?
brisk trail
Cassius Clay, Muhammad Ali's real name.
warm elbow
Has somebody experienced a delay with appearance of the boss prizes?
brisk trail
Or birth name.
stiff trellis
Aspect of General winter
blissful monolith
Granny's got a hell of a left hook
forest grotto
oh i'm not a sports guy
jade grove
I think the trend is going to be more focused on the people as they were remembered in legend, not as they were in real life.
Arthur is generally considered to not exist, Guan Yu here manifests only in his mythologized form
forest grotto
al capone, lawrence of arabia, cassius clay, and dr. gatling are all essentially modern myths
torpid walrus
Jesus Hydra fight is so stupid at 32 heat with fista
torpid walrus
Fists*
torpid walrus
You can't even hit the heads without taking damage
jade grove
I already know what I would like to see a Tesla aspect do.
forest grotto
tesla could also be the gauntlets since it's said he made an earthquake machine
jade grove
Primary attack: Teleforce Ray - emits a continuous beam like the crystal enemies and a certain someone, ramping up damage over time when held.
Special attack: Ball Lightning - shoots a slow moving orb of blue lightning that zaps enemies constantly.
That would be different enough, but still familiar to the way the Rail plays
The end of the rail becomes a Tesla coil.
forest grotto
nah the real life rail gun design reminds me more of a electric sling shot
warm elbow
Tesla learned to harness the power of Zeus
jade grove
Alternative: The special lobs a tesla turret onto the ground, that zaps enemies in range
aka, a mini coil
stiff trellis
Actually
forest grotto
the special could be the earthquake machine i mentioned earlier
jade grove
That said, the Teleforce ray is one of the most... mythologized concepts associated with Tesla.
brisk trail
What's the explanation behind being able to switch talents in the new mirror? what are the green ones supposed to be? I just interacted with my mirror and found out about it but no npc has mentioned it or anything
brisk trail
They're just alternative talents.
jade grove
Because it never quite existed, and yet, besides the tesla coil, the notion of Tesla inventing a death ray is enduring
brisk trail
You can read what they do by hovering over the arrow.
forest grotto
hahah i love that untitled dusa game
blissful monolith
"Nyx upgraded my mirror" is all the explanation the talents have in-story
brisk trail
yeah I know since i'm playing with controller, but I dunno, feels off, being green and all too
oh okay, nyx had no new dialogue so 🤷♂️
stiff trellis
Maybe it does something like a bonus effect towards armoured and elite enemies
forest grotto
the info feels off to me wafu
brisk trail
The green is just to show you that you have different talents selected.
jade grove
I'd say India for an aspect of the bow
brisk trail
ya but so are the icons and it's just like, really attention-calling you know
makes you think they'd be something else more special or something
stiff trellis
Maybe we'll get one soon
blissful monolith
A light blue would probably fit the colour scheme better while still standing out
brisk trail
I wouldn't read too much into it. Level them up if they suit your playstyle, or don't.
sure 👌
forest grotto
oh yea india would make sense as well for the bow because the dad of the elephant head guy uses a bow
dire cedar
i don't know if India would be good
stiff trellis
I really like the other options
shadow mist
Never heard of Dr. Gatling
brisk trail
I like some of them, but not all.
dire cedar
they have only gods with bow
forest grotto
Gatling gun
stiff trellis
Dr. Gatling, the inventor of the gatling gun, right?
jade grove
Not exactly.
forest grotto
Dr. Gatling invented it to attempt to kill enemies faster so it's more "humane:
jade grove
Arjuna and Rama are epic heroes.
forest grotto
"humane"*
stiff trellis
Interesting way to go about it
jade grove
Not all gods there
brisk trail
I'd really like to see a second primordial deity like Chronos with some time-related stuff. Seems a shame that Chaos is the only one.
stiff trellis
Chaos came before the titans
Chaos is literally the progenitor of all creation, effectively
forest grotto
@jade grove you and i are on the same page
dire cedar
but they are avatars of gods
brisk trail
Correct, but there are other primordial beings that existed before the gods.
Chronos or Khronos is one.
jade grove
I do wish we had room for an aspect of an Egyptian figure
forest grotto
yes but not the titans
stiff trellis
The heka gigantes comes to mind
brisk trail
Chronos isn't a titan, lol.
jade grove
But the thing is there, most Egyptian myths revolve around the gods, and few have weapons that are considered special.
brisk trail
You're thinking of Cronos, no H.
forest grotto
egyptian weapons idk
chronos was king of the titans
worthy cairn
wait wait so been playing yesterday but dodn't notice, did they just reduce the default number of dashes again?? :((
jade grove
They just use normal weapons
stiff trellis
It's two, isn't it?
jade grove
And the only Egyptian folklore heroes who aren't gods, I believe, are magicians who use heka and their wits.
forest grotto
no just 2 unless you switch to the green bonuses
brisk trail
Cronos = Titan. Chronos/Khronos/Chronus = primordial diety of time.
stiff trellis
With more reward for risky dodges
blissful monolith
incidentally I wish you could get more than 2 dashes from the mirror
worthy cairn
i have 1 and all upgrades except the new green ones
jade grove
Basically, Egypt specced into Mages and Clerics and pretty much ignored the warrior class
:v
jade grove
Making it the best ancient civilization, because mages rock
floral belfry
but I can't get it to trigger on my second
forest grotto
@brisk trail they're all the same and he's a titan
dire cedar
yeah, with subclass summoner
forest grotto
necromancers as well shirenn
brisk trail
@forest grotto How do you figure that?
jade grove
He's written about more extensively in Roman mythology
brisk trail
Chronos (/ˈkroʊnɒs/; Greek: Χρόνος, "time", pronounced [kʰrónos], also transliterated as Khronos or Latinised as Chronus) is the personification of time in pre-Socratic philosophy and later literature.[1]
Chronos already was confused with, or perhaps consciously identified with, the Titan Cronus in antiquity due to the similarity in names.[2] The identification became more widespread during the Renaissance, giving rise to the allegory of "Father Time" wielding the harvesting scythe[3].
dire cedar
Was Trojans Greeks?
forest grotto
yes shirenn
brazen isle
yep. Achilles was a hero of the Trojan War
forest grotto
achilles mentions it all the time as does artemis
jade grove
lmao, Goliath has a giant shield.
brisk trail
Trojans were technically Asian, I think, Troy is in Turkey.
floral belfry
have Zag escape the underworld using a trojan horse on the river styx
stiff trellis
Trojans were kind of the early romans?
blissful monolith
"Fixed Skelly sometimes talking while Skelly was already in the middle of talking" - honestly, that would be completely in character 😛
stiff trellis
It's a whole thing
dire cedar
i mean in real history
forest grotto
again @jade grove i want to throw brunhild into that one
jade grove
One issue with Svalinn is that it has no wielder?
forest grotto
@dire cedar yes
jade grove
I will say, I'd be down for at least one female aspect wielder, some of their legends are badass as hell
aspect of Lyuda, full sniper commitment
brisk trail
Why do the alternate talents take darkness to unlock instead of keys? Or I wouldn't be able to unlock them with darkness if i hadn't unlocked the "default" talents with keys first?
jade grove
although it'd probably overlap too much with Hestia
dire cedar
flamethrower aspect
shadow mist
"Further improvements to the look of Olympian Boon pick-ups, making Olympians easier to spot"
Did people still have a problem spotting the orb that dropped right next to them when they finished the room? Especially after the main update make them more glowy and added the pillar?
jade grove
@forest grotto Wait. Brunhild aspect... be able to summon a spinning wall of shields around yourself
That would be sick
knotty epoch
That's Chaos aspect but not chaotic
stiff trellis
I really like the new look of the boons
blissful monolith
I don't :/
jade grove
No, I mean, floating around you, not flying away from you.
brisk trail
Do a run and it'll be there when you die.
floral belfry
for me it appeared after I died 3 times
dire cedar
you have to do a run first
harsh fulcrum
Has anyone else had troubles getting Hera bow and auto reload to work?
shy relic
I had a run still open
stiff trellis
Oh
shy relic
and did that but apparently was not enough
stiff trellis
Complete another run
dire cedar
I'm sad that there won't be Achilles aspect of Shield
stiff trellis
It appears after that
shy relic
yeah thanks 🙂
shy relic
I tried giving up in the first room
but I think I need to go to the second room at least?
stiff trellis
Maybe
jade grove
@harsh fulcrum The new cast perk? It doesn't work with Hera currently.
dire cedar
i too had troubles
stiff trellis
I think the cast-based aspects could do with changes
The only one I can kind of understand being usable is poseidon sword with exit wounds and hermes cast
jade grove
Yeah, they should have special mechanics for the Stygian cast.
jade grove
They are, however, good with normal Soul perk
stiff trellis
The hera bow confuses me
brisk trail
Hera is awesome with Trippy Shot and Stygian Soul.
stiff trellis
Oh, ok
dire cedar
Hera is just awesome
stiff trellis
I was trying to figure out what the benefit of the bow is
But I think I get it
Wait
stiff trellis
Poseidon attack hera bow with poseidon cast
dire cedar
just bcs of burst
stiff trellis
YEET
blissful monolith
speaking of Hera, it's weird that she's not in the game
jade grove
Poseidon+Demeter dual cast
blissful monolith
considering the major role she plays in the pantheon
forest grotto
@jade grove athena's chosen
stiff trellis
I like demeter's cast but I wish it lasted a bit longer but I also know they'd be broken if they did
wind sinew
Oh my god the new weapon is so much fun, great work devs!
stiff trellis
Ikr
marsh jackal
I just afk'd without pausing hades so this is going to be my longest run, at 27 minutes and still in tartarus
stiff trellis
I love rushdown kinda playstyles
And the twin fists really nail that fighting style
wind sinew
Yeah the fast pace erratic fighting is exactly how I like playing
stiff trellis
One of my first runs with them, I managed to beat my fastest clear time
brisk trail
I didn't have enough keys to unlock it on my last run, need to go collect more so I can try it. D;
stiff trellis
Which I was super proud of
wind sinew
Great stuff
stiff trellis
And it also makes hermes' plume really great
wind sinew
Stacking dodge?
stiff trellis
I was literally just
Facetanking every boss by just standing there and deflecting everything
wind sinew
My only complaint was the special felt underwhelming
stiff trellis
The uppercut?
wind sinew
I had the upgrade to charge it up combined with the multi hit aspect and the damage felt quite underwhelming for what I expected with that combo
stiff trellis
I think it's a good finisher for enemies
jade grove
tfw I started a Talos game
stiff trellis
But seeing as
brisk trail
Swift Flourish, Rush Kick, Deadly Flourish. Enjoy your easy win.
jade grove
now I'm about to restart with Demeter because of the aspect fx change