Update in 4 days pog
#h1-discussion
civic prism
Looking forward to the last weapon, not a big fan of the exagryph mostly used the bow, sword, and shield lol
I spend just as much time reloading as I do shooting it seems, don't have that problem with the bow and getting flurry+chain shot with some solid Crit is just Sweet
jade grove
@vague perch ayoooo orbitars
I see you're a person of culture as well.
Also, instead of fire rate, multi/spread shot would be dope on such a weapon
Floating scythe would be viable because Than exists, still hoping for magic staff and Iris aspect
vague perch
That would be cool yeah
jade grove
Magic staff torch has been my idea for a while...
But orbiting shots would be pretty awesome too
delicate arrow
Til that Stygian blade special is a tidal dash on steroids
vague perch
Whatever they come up with is probably going to be fun
Omg I just thought of a completely off the wall idea
jade grove
Yeah, I really hope they did The One That Floats in the end
vague perch
What if one of the "weapons" was instead like a hellhound pup or like a floating summon and instead of directly attacking you command it where to go and where to attack
vague perch
It would probably be absolutely busted since you could camp in a corner for most rooms, I'd imagine but it sounds interesting to me
I don't know much about dmc
jade grove
Why I want a magic weapon: Besides floating, spread shots aspect
Basically be the splitters
Bullet Hell Zag
vague perch
Just have the enemies play touhou
vague perch
lol
I'll at least have a lot to play with when I buy it, lol
I'm excited
I will give all my love to dusa
vague perch
Just a bunch of snakes surounding you when she hugs you
jade grove
Hug Dusa too
vague perch
Always hug dusa
jade grove
Hmm. Weapons themed around the Titan slayers? Hell yeah, I can't believe we're getting Demeter's tractor.
Not gonna lie though, I just don't like melee as much as... not melee.
lofty wolf
I think that melee has big issue of being in the heat of every explosion, sparkle, haze. and the game is very busy at times, so it's much easier to navigate the mess from some distance
jade grove
@lofty wolf No, for me, it's just thematic. I've always been a magic fan
Melee is just kinda mundane to me usually, by comparison
civic prism
I'd like to see something similar to Zenyatta or a polearm to give us an option other than the spear
torpid walrus
when is the next update
jade grove
Three days tops
Man, I envy Zag's ability to just shoot his blood left and right. I nearly fainted during a blood test extraction and I wasn't even looking at the damn thing.
alpine stratus
doctor: i just need to do a blood test
zag: [hands you a rock] [hands you a rock] [hands you a rock] okay thats all i can give rn
devout plinth
"are there still free cookies and orange juice outside"
alpine stratus
i would give zag any amount of cookies or orange juice
alpine stratus
you know that as SOON as zag gets outside for any reasonable period of time he WILL take you up on that
devout plinth
he would be really nice for a day or two but then it's like. Okay buddy you're a little much for me
alpine stratus
right 😂 but its too late! he's moved in! heres an ambrosia for the trouble!!
devout plinth
I wonder if humans would die if they had too much ambrosia in overworld!Hades
alpine stratus
zag finds this out the hard way
zag: okay im giving you a present but DONT eat it
person: then....why
zag: listen i need to give presents okay??? but DONT drink it
alpine stratus
human friends houses cluttered with unlookable, untouchable boxes
alpine stratus
hgfvghfchgfcghdgh
zag runs out of ambrosia in the overworld and makes people friendship bracelets instead thats my story and im sticking to it
devout plinth
they say 🇿 🇦 🇬 : )
alpine stratus
AWWWW,,,, WOW ACTUALLY I REALLY WANT A BEAD BRACELET W LITTLE SKULLS THAT SAYS Z A G,,,,
devout plinth
OH THATS REALLY CUTE... BUT WHAT IF they were made from bloodstone
or is that worse I feel like that's worse actually
alpine stratus
in a real blood way? gross. In a tiny red plastic diamond way? ADORABLEEEE
jade grove
@devout plinth You're supposed to get free cookies and juice? I didn't get any...
devout plinth
they took your blood and didn't have that stuff on a table outside or something??? It's the best they just. have them there
for blood sugar purposes i suppose
jade grove
Thonk
Nope, just water
I don't even understand why I was nearly fainting. I wasn't even looking at the thing.
devout plinth
dang, at least they gave you water
You probably felt faint because of the blood sugar thing but that's my uneducated guess
jade grove
Oh. Apparently not drinking water beforehand was a bad idea
Also, sudden blood pressure loss
I should have asked for a blessing from Zag.
opaque nexus
@jade grove I’m assuming from your feedback that guan yu spin would be the same if your change was implemented. Also how fast would quick spin be if normal spin was as fast as quick spin now?
jade grove
I said in between quick and normal?
I think?
oh
Closer to quick spin not same as current QS
opaque nexus
Oh
opaque nexus
No
jade grove
without quick spin GY spin is just as suicide as the rest
opaque nexus
But if quick spin stacked with that
opaque nexus
Hmm maybe
jade grove
stacking speed multipliers is the way to a deeper level of hell
tbf though
I kind of wish quick spin didn't exist?
Like, at all?
opaque nexus
Why
jade grove
It feels like it should be baseline for spin to even be viable.
otherwise, spin is the riskiest move in the game
opaque nexus
But you didn’t want it to be as fast as quick spin baseline
jade grove
other than patiently waiting for the eris bomb to fall on your head at 40% overtime
well, I mean, I figured a moderate proposal would be more successful than "bake in the hammer"
opaque nexus
Guan yu spin without quick spin is more useable btw
marsh jackal
I share that same opinion with felis the spin time feels so slow that it makes the situations you can use it too far between
jade grove
Yeah, why would you want slower charge on it @opaque nexus
opaque nexus
Guan yu would be super broken if quick spin was baked in
Like, by far the best weapon
marsh jackal
Imagine if shield had twice the charge time, you’d use it for blocking and avoid using it otherwise
jade grove
Tbf, there is one thing I was considering proposing instead - super armor on spins.
But, the downside of super armor
doesn't help on hard labor
you just die unstaggered
LOL
marsh jackal
If you don’t want it to affect guan yu then they could just make hades aspect charge quicker
opaque nexus
Have aspect-specific boon upgrades
novel wasp
greatshield with damage control is painful
opaque nexus
And one of them makes guan yu shoot 3 spin things
marsh jackal
There’s other aspects in the game that change the core of the weapons function
opaque nexus
Jk
novel wasp
Some of them literally gimps you
for example, if you pick the stronger attack but no longer spins as hades aspect
you are just digging grave for yourself
hades needs the spin to be most effective
opaque nexus
The best strat with hades spear is ditching the spin for rapid jab
novel wasp
Lol
opaque nexus
And in that case the zagreus spear is just objectively better
novel wasp
you lose the damage increase
opaque nexus
Seriously that’s the only way you can beat 32 heat with it
novel wasp
i like hades spin for its own right but zag spear is good anyway
opaque nexus
Which I don’t recommend
novel wasp
max level though
opaque nexus
I had a thing in feedback about reworking hades
marsh jackal
Honestly I wish aspects had specific Daedalus hammers
Getting any special upgrade beside the exploding return is not worth it from my experience running chaos shield
opaque nexus
Someone suggested that it gets rid of the spin but replaces the normal attack with one of ||Hades’||melee combos
novel wasp
you can actually move while spinning
opaque nexus
I suggested they change the spin into the ||lasers he uses||
The lasers wouldn’t go through walls but they would have infinite range otherwise
Quick spin makes it charge faster and massive spin makes lasers bigger
jade grove
Mmmm
That'd be a lot more fun
That said, I'd like the ||giant BS range spin||
like, the one that's already massive spin
opaque nexus
The melee combo?
jade grove
No, the giant screw-you one that hits half the screen, lmao
it can be with or without combo
marsh jackal
That massive spin or lasers would be fun
tawny laurel
Woo
idle marlin
God damn it.
I want to wait until the full game comes out, but it looks so amazing
I must control my urge to buy the early access
verbal hornet
The AngryJoe review on Youtube said that buying early access would guarantee all future content for free....is that true?
jade grove
@verbal hornet Yeah, pretty much
Supergiant isn't greedy.
They make a good game and sell it.
graceful bolt
Does anyone know when the patch notes will come out? Does it come out before the patch in 3 days or does it come with the patch ?
I am just too excited..
jade grove
With, usually
graceful bolt
I am super excited
verbal hornet
@jade grove Thank you!
broken sail
why is this game so fun?
hexed smelt
because hacky slashy shooty shooty?
remote moat
great inbuild naritive and soul of the characters
- fluid gameplay with good customisation
hexed smelt
also that, yes.
sharp parcel
sucking at something is the first step towards being sorta good at it
lusty stump
Plus at the start you don't have almost fully upgraded Mirror
So being bad can be easy due to factor of THAT. Mean you can do run without the mirror
But mirror is pretty much what helps out
lofty wolf
i definately enjoy how fluid combat is, but perfect packaging is nice too
broken sail
what should i spend my blood on?
it seems like a valuable resource and i dont want to waste them on mediocre upgrades
mental sleet
depends
from what I have seen sword is a bit underwhelming
everyone kinda agree that both of the bow's alternate aspect is worth unlocking
every shield aspects is also good if you like to play shield
novel wasp
Sword is underwhelming yes
but tbh Aspect of Nemesis is nuts
focus on that and we are done
lofty wolf
Guan Yu spear is also dope, but costs a lot to get to efficient (lvl 3 and higher) levels
proud silo
is it normal the darkness bonus only swaps between the same weapons in the same order?
it always does gun spear sword, gun spear sword...
I've done like 10 runs and it keeps doing that
south tusk
i think it goes to whichever theres been a lack of using? like it tries to push you to use em all but tbf screw that extra darkness im here to brawl not to try and survive with a weapon i suck with
wet carbon
i don't think it follows any pattern, i used to always pick whichever weapon had the bonus and before i got to 5 finished runs with the shield i had 10+ with each of the others
i think it might always pick a weapon other than the one you used last, but even then i'm not sure
jade grove
ROFL Than has a line that's "You're already dead"
"What?" [explodes]
I need to see Theseus go "By the power of Greyskull!"
glass bone
Does anyone know why Chthonic Vitality heals me 2 instead of 3 after each chamber?
cold wraith
d'you have heals reduced from heat
glass bone
Lasting Consequences?
cold wraith
maybe, i just know what they do not their names
marsh jackal
Guan Yu spear is also dope, but costs a lot to get to efficient (lvl 3 and higher) levels
@lofty wolf
It's 3 each level for a total of 15
lofty wolf
yeah, 9 or 12 blood is quite a lot
marsh jackal
Ah I thought you meant the cost per level scaled, you're just talking about total blood
lofty wolf
yeah
unreal otter
2 days left baybeeee
wet reef
:vibrating eyes emoji:
lofty wolf
opaque nexus
Nemesis sword is inherently flawed
It’s a slow melee in a game with fast enemies
You basically need world splitter for it to not be cumbersome and clunky
cursive steppe
Same for guan yu then?
opaque nexus
Guan yu is pretty much a better version of nemesis
It still somewhat relies on hammer upgrades, but the reward is better and it’s safer
marsh jackal
I don't have a high opinion on sword but I've realized sword is played fast by focusing completely on your special and dash attack, because the dash attack does the same damage as the third attack in the sword combo
so nemesis rewards you for playing how you ought to play sword and gives you 30% crit chance
iron fog
i love using nemesis for sword, esp when combined with boons that buff crit dmg
wet reef
what effect does Nemesis have again?
vale kite
bonus crit chance after special
novel wasp
yeah personally think its kinda stupid cause you dont have to hit anything to start the crit
i could just do special spam and get a crit start in troves
wet reef
I really only think the Zag aspect on the Sword is kinda meh
novel wasp
agreed
also crit is kinda memey theres a reason artemis is everyone's waifu
the meta virgin no.1 ™️
athena is no. 2 ™️
wet reef
Zag aspect on bow is also kinda eeeeeeh but I also never managed to get Chiron to work
novel wasp
chrion is ez
wet reef
which special is nice to have for Chiron?
idk something that just makes you say "haha wow this is stupid" while also feeling nice to use
wet reef
yeah I went with that too
novel wasp
ares if you have stacked doom + special, a little hard to work on but its memey if you also got aphro attack and then their duo boon
wet reef
but I also think Poseidon is kinda cool because it just keeps knocking back then enemy lmao
novel wasp
or demeter + chill nova for ez damage
wet reef
I wonder what the last one on Bow might be
"Robin hood aspect"
lets you steal the enemy's....strength?
novel wasp
thats just rail's increased damage uninterrupted aint it
i dont like that hammer upgrade tbh
wet reef
which one?
delta chamber?
novel wasp
i wish the increase damage is exponential rather than based on base damage
delta chamber is 3 round burst
wet reef
I kinda like that
novel wasp
1 damage per shot increase isnt much
infact the gameplay didnt change much either, i prefer bow's hammer due to some of them really want you to play differently
like dual + nuke shot
hue
wet reef
lmao nuke on Rail is great
wet reef
just gotta mmmm not stand in there
novel wasp
hazard bomb cannot be combined, at all
it just stops there
tbh not a fan of it, i prefer rocket lawn chair
novel wasp
actually there is one combinable but it is more like sidegrade than a real skill
slow in radius one
but you go lose some of the memey combo like cluster rocket
cluster rocket is like shotgun mode
again you only have two hammers per run, so you wouldnt be able to upgrade on other parts
kinda sad tho i wanna see what happens when you have more hammers
fr tho, cluster triple bomb would be so funny
"ITS RAINING MEN"
wet reef
we only got 2 upgrades after Elysium was added right?
novel wasp
yea
infact you can avoid hammers
and then it will show up more often if you didnt choose them
especially when you reroll
for example hammer would be a lower priority when theres a chaos portal there
sand stump
I am often so conflicting to choose between chaos andhammer
especially the chaos I paid for
novel wasp
yep, go for chaos
as long as you have your d20 you will get them eventually
but if you are desparate for a hammer you are always free to get them
solar coral
how do you make the harp sound better? orpheus hasn't had any lines regarding it
civic prism
Thought it was the Lyre you had to learn for the fates
opaque nexus
Is update on the 9th or 10th
rich yacht
if someone says it's a harp they're a lyre
stray jay
holy moly just beated hades whit 1 hp left too close for comfort
visual briar
niiiice
vague perch
Sugars, I was too busy today to make another drawing for Hades
Hope I can get more done tommorow
honest badger
Does anyone else have a terrible time fishing? I asked for advice a while back and tried the tips you all gave but I guess I'm just not understanding how.
civic prism
Press a button, when the bobber goes under press it again..?
I dunno, as long as you don't react too early/when it hasn't gone completely under you're fine.
timber quartz
It also has a little white flash - that’s how you know it’s the correct bob
vague perch
From what I can see it does a big splash when it has something
honest badger
Thanks I'll give it another go
untold belfry
Quick question about the update in three days; since we're getting a new weapon, should I save up on Keys? I've been ignoring them or just spending them at the Broker since I unlocked all the other weapons and Darkness powers.
iron fog
i've been saving them just in case ye
rich yacht
probably a good idea yeah
surreal shale
Ho boy
Just finished Hades 😄
To the devs (who i hope are hearing this)... You are my favorite game devolopers out there! Jesus... The art style, music, the atmosphare and the story telling is just flawless! Keep up the great work on there! 😄
You guys are the first dev team i subbed on steam 😄
deep pivot
@untold belfry It costed keys to unlock the other weapons so I'd recommend you do, at least 10 just in case
untold belfry
good to know. thanks.
deep pivot
If I remember correctly, the railgun costed 8 keys to unlock so it should be around that
surreal shale
@deep pivot Im sorry to ping you but can i ask how did you get the early access rank? 😄
And is there a way to get it myself lol
deep pivot
No worries! Go to #bot-commands and you can assign yourself any roles you want
surreal shale
Oh thank you!
untold belfry
Pro-tip for the Adamant Rail: rebind the manual reload from Right Stick Click to Left Stick Click. Feels so much better since you never use the right stick for anything.
surreal shale
Btw not gonna lie it feels really exciting to be at the same server with the devs who have created Hades and Transistor! (Transistor being one of my favorite games of all time!)
deep pivot
Welcome! Hope you have a good time and feel free to ask anything 
surreal shale
Who ever is doing the art work for these games gave a hell of a talent 😄
rich yacht
yeah they're great, been a fan since bastion first released on xbox live
i should actually beat pyre tho....
surreal shale
@deep pivot Thank you i will!
I have only played transistor and Hades
Im thinking of buying bastion aswell
rich yacht
well if you like hades core gameplay you're in luck, it's very similar to bastion
jade grove
@untold belfry I tried that and it gave me atrocious hand cramps. Not recommended
Unless your left thumb is REALLY durable
brisk trail
Is it just me or does the shield seem really weak when youre attempting heat runs of any sort?
shut wolf
is there any place that i can see my past clear stats? builds time etc.
livid cargo
not yet
wild viper
Alright dumb question. After winning the run, on the victory stats screen showing your build or whatever, what's the purpose of selecting the 5 different boons for?
My google-fu isn't pointing me to an answer lol
merry harbor
Just so you can screenshot any that seemed important to your clear or that you wanted to share.
It's just for personal records!
wild viper
Gotcha, wasn't sure if it was doing anything lol. Thank you
novel wasp
My god Extreme measure Meg Tisiphone mega sucks
meg has the biggest aoe and now get claustrophobic with it
brisk trail
Ooh, yeah.
crystal plume
Will the new weapon come with aspect's?
crystal plume
It's gonna be really fun to play with them
crystal plume
I kinda hope it's a slow heavy hitting weapon like a hammer or something
jade grove
I kinda hope it's not melee.
jade grove
Magic.
If the Titan slaying thing is a real theme, then it'll probably be a scythe, or a torch.
Either/or for Demeter.
Torch can have wildly different magic aspects, so I prefer that idea
crystal plume
Magic would be fun
novel wasp
Kitchen Knife
crystal plume
i wish
novel wasp
for stygian
novel wasp
i guess is a reworked character
rich yacht
i think it's just the final art for nyx
novel wasp
def not a god as they said theres too much gods already
tbh the current nyx fits her too
crystal plume
Could be nyx
novel wasp
for being actually menancing
crystal plume
it'll be nice for her to look like a acutal character now
rich yacht
yeah i just got the game a couple weeks ago and didn't even realize that nyx and charon used the placeholder art lol
it fits them
novel wasp
tho judging from the silouhette, it seems like she looks too flamboyant for being a humble mother though
im not sure
if its gonna be nyx
crystal plume
We could get a character who could further Enhance Hammer upgrade's
my guess is hephaestus
novel wasp
thats what i suggested lol
nimble ocean
so, there are a lot of characters people desire to be seen
i'm afraid most will never make it to the game.. even if their stories can make nice additions
nimble ocean
i thought they meant one more olympian, and that was before Demeter.. don't remember about one more character..
if that so, it's even more sad
noble sage
there was a question asked during the last QnA
'We have plans for one more character as part of our push toward exiting Early Access and getting to v1.0 of Hades.'
nimble ocean
seems like that particular answer can also be interpreted as there are no plans beyond release, but it doesn't mean there will be no updates anymore
guess we'll just wait
tropic brook
I feel like hammer is the obvious choice but there's nothing I'd want less than a slow melee weapon...Dual-daggers with a stealth ability to reposition would be really rad!
novel wasp
KITCHEN KNIFE
nimble ocean
one hammer upgraded by another hammer
or.. just picked up, and they're now dual hammers
tropic brook
I was thinking maybe a magic staff if they wanted to do 3 melee/3 ranged weapons.
spring plaza
A whip could be a nice addition. Cestus could be awesome but would the gameplay change much from the sword and make it interesting?
tropic brook
Oooo I like the idea of a whip. More mid-range.
tropic brook
It could be faster and maybe have some leap attack for cestus.
trail void
Whip: Aspect of Belmont
jade grove
@tropic brook MAGIC STAFF GANG
nimble ocean
scythe maybe? possible comments from Than
also, well.. probably it's safe to look to the existing gods and what they wielded in the past
graceful bolt
New weapon is finna be a glock 18 to bust some caps into some demon assets with the new god being 2pac shakur
spring plaza
@nimble ocean Oh yes, the Scythe could be interesting, like slower but more damage?
But would make it so Dead Cells
tropic brook
I like the idea of a scythe but dunno how to truly distinguish itself from just being a wide spear.
spring plaza
@graceful bolt There is another game about Hell and Demons where the protagonist is fully locked and loaded 🙂
graceful bolt
@spring plaza 😂
For real though I think new weapon gonna be about magic or something using elements
nimble ocean
Big Firing Rail
graceful bolt
I'm craving for this new patch badly.
spring plaza
By the way, is it the 10 of March as during the 10 of March or like at 23.59 on 10 of March?
tropic brook
It's usually in the middle of the day California time.
jade grove
Scythe should be used like Thanatos' scythe.
Read: While floating, and capable of using it at range to some degree.
nimble ocean
Zag (puts imminent 9999 hit on Skelly): Omae wa mou shindeiru.
Skelly: I know, right?
to think of it, a whip already has a moveset, that can be taken from the fury sisters.. stun attack, dash attack, AOE after a small pause
something between sword and shield
spring plaza
@nimble ocean Plus the effects of boons could be so nice when added to a whip
nimble ocean
also, to think of it.. burning status effect haven't been used much other than in Asphodel.. so there is a possibility for some kind of flamethrowing staff, like, from Hecate.. or less likely Helios and his boons
spring plaza
Maybe Zagreus will use Bouldy...a bit like a Pokémon
Bouldy, I chose you!
Bouldy used Rollover. It is very effective.
novel wasp
lol delta chamber is great
combine with hermes dash increase you literally fire faster than you could
rich yacht
it's good, but i like to use hestia aspect and need to reload D:
spring plaza
@rich yacht What about Eris aspect?
rich yacht
eris is good i just like the big shoot
it's kinda weird actually that delta chamber pretty much negates two of the rail's three current aspects
eris is the only one it's good with but it's very good with it
novel wasp
two?
rich yacht
zag's aspect gives you more ammo and hestia requires you to reload
unless i'm missing something
nimble ocean
well, infinity is more than 10.. and still more than 100..
so, it just makes good thing even better.. but with Hestia aspect yes, it pretty much negates the only benefit of it
rich yacht
i mean yeah it just replaces zag's aspect with an even better advantage, so i feel like there's not really a reason to even use zag's aspect
spring plaza
A reload button would be good for the Adamant Rail
rich yacht
not that you can for sure get delta chamber every time, but
livid cargo
There is a reload button on the rail @spring plaza
flat vapor
you can still manually reload with delta chamber, so hestia isn’t out
rich yacht
oh can you?
nimble ocean
and if there are alternatives as Rocket bomb or Triple bomb, they outshine Delta chamber anyway
livid cargo
Yeah
rich yacht
i didn't know because i was too scared to actually take it
like "will this ruin me? no idea better play it safe"
nimble ocean
huh.. interesting
rich yacht
i mean i never run out of ammo with hestia i just do a couple shots and reload so i wouldn't take it anyway probably
spring plaza
@livid cargo Can you tell me more about?
rich yacht
but good to know
nimble ocean
i tried DC with Zag aspect and i was pretty sure there is no more reload button..
maybe it stays there with Hestia
nimble ocean
maybe i should doublecheck this
spring plaza
@livid cargo Thank you
livid cargo
You are welcome
brisk trail
Does anyone know at what time will the Hades update be dropping on Tuesday?
novel wasp
high noon
livid cargo
@brisk trail roughly 10 am pacific standard time
brisk trail
Ok good to know, thanks Max!
livid cargo
Happy to help
nimble ocean
well, losing a dd from controller disconnection is one way to start a run
so, that's true, you can reload with Delta chamber and Hestia aspect
mild needle
is there any place where i can see builds, like a list of builds
sleek juniper
Oh thats nice to know.
novel wasp
Steam community is one way to go
spring plaza
Any plan for different skins for Zagreus?
worthy egret
I wish i could be friends with Alaster
Cow boy needs some sweet nectar cause he's sweet
spring plaza
@worthy egret You mean Asterius?
worthy egret
Ah yeah
I always forget which it is
Also i dont trust theseus but asterius does and i trust his judgement
spring plaza
Him and Theseus are built like body builders...Maybe a bromance there...but forged in fight, blood and sweat
worthy egret
Still wanna fistbump him without him running me into a pillar
worthy egret
PFFFT
west chasm
The dumbest minds make for the purest hearts
worthy egret
Every theseus fight makes me and zag lose brain cells
west chasm
Zag "So you are just gonna block half the damage i deal to you just because you are looking my way?"
Theseus "Yes"
I gotta draw that meme
The one with the wojak and the chad
worthy egret
Theseus: YOU DAEMON! YOU FOUL BEAST OF NETHER!
Zagreus, who 100% looks like a daemon, a foul fiend, a beast of nether: wow. That's rude.
west chasm
Zagreus, literal red eyes, flaming feet god of blood: 😮
worthy egret
God of blood? I havent finished the game yet-
west chasm
Nah it isn't said
worthy egret
OKAY
west chasm
It's not a spoiler cuz it literally is never mentioned
The only time anyone says something about it is "Well you just HAVE to be the god of something"
But idk if what is Zag god of is gonna be adressed in the game
worthy egret
Zag, dashing behind Theseus: Omae wa mou shindeiru.
Theseus: NANI?
Fully charged Call sfx
west chasm
Nah man
Curse of pain with Exagryph and epic Hermes attack boon
With curse of longing
worthy egret
Zagreus is obviously the god of awkward conversations and not cleaning his room
west chasm
And that one boon that makes doom stack
I like how literally every interaction of Zagreis with Hades is just teen angst
worthy egret
I also love the whole joke of him adamantly refusing to sit still
That had to be a handful when he was a kid
west chasm
Animation is expensive
worthy egret
No wonder hades is so done with him
west chasm
Zagreus reluctancy to sit is made so SGG can be lazy
worthy egret
"Look at me. Every time I sit, it costs Supergiant a thousand dollars"
west chasm
Not far from the truth tho
Making the animation, rendering it, coding it in...
Since hades is isometric Zag would need 4 different angles to sit
worthy egret
One time Hypnos is just tired of Zag not sleeping, boops him and the boy shuts off like an old computer
west chasm
Complete with earrape music
worthy egret
Hades but every time you take damage its bass boosted
Bone hydra 2nd phase goes brrr BRRRR BrRR
west chasm
Imagine fighting the Hydra but all the heads are green in both phases
worthy egret
More improvements to the game: those chambers where you just have to survive but it plays the monster house music from pokemon mystery dungeon
west chasm
More improvements: Real time backseat gaming from Hypnos
worthy egret
Ehdufifushzs
Zagreus gets murdered by many tonnes of a bull charging into him
"Oooof. That must've hurt lol."
west chasm
"come on take the epic boon! Yeah it replaces another one but the others are common, they are as good as nothing!"
"Geeze why don't you roll gems? You already have like 500 gold!"
worthy egret
Excited yelling and waving every time his brother appears
west chasm
Hypnos critizices your failure and shares with you his wisdom ASMR
worthy egret
We all know than is the real asmr
shdhhf hypnos' wisdom can be summed up as 'hey maybe dodge the attacks'
west chasm
Meg trusts Hypnos' wisdom
Also i love how Hypnos' robes look like a very comfortable bed
worthy egret
He's all about comfort and good sleep and yet he never gets any of it
west chasm
Fun fact
The more you zoom into Hypnos' face, the stronger his mood becomes
Go ahead, try it
west chasm
It's a Skipper level mood
worthy egret
Also can i say its really rude to have Than's theme slap that hard and then charge 3 diamonds for it
west chasm
I mean you are buying it for a reason
west chasm
Also you know that steam sells music that slaps WAY harder for less cash
You ever heard Smell of the Game?
worthy egret
Nope
worthy egret
And i mean hey
At least i have reasons to throw myself at the hydra with stygius
Even though stygius is a myeh from me cause aaa melee weapon
worthy egret
?
west chasm
Like, the game is SUPER green
worthy egret
Ohh
worthy egret
Will try to look into it if i remember ^^
west chasm
Hol up
worthy egret
But yeah time to get myself murdered trying to get diamonds
Considering i also really wanted one more song ayyyyhyhhhhrrr
Charon's gonna be so rich
west chasm
Just play at more heat 4head
worthy egret
Havent finished the game yet
west chasm
Oh?
Dang that's a shocker
You need a good grasp to beat the FINAL BOSS
Spoiler!
🔫
worthy egret
AUG
worthy egret
I do know i was this nervous when i felt transistor was ending
worthy egret
Its not about the gameplay the nervousness is about the story ahdhxu
west chasm
Ah, yeah...
worthy egret
Also im a huge artemis junkie
west chasm
I feel emotionally connected to Artemis
spring plaza
@worthy egret The story never ends...It is fate
You can go to some play through and yet discover new dialogues, interactions and bits of lore
spring plaza
And there are items only obtainable with some specific interaction or play through
west chasm
Yeah
worthy egret
EFFERVERESCENT
worthy egret
Lots of fish to miss
west chasm
Yes
worthy egret
😅
west chasm
I hate that tbh
worthy egret
Took me a bit to figure out what the game wants from me ahdhf
worthy egret
I meant aROUND FISH
Im afraid to ask what the optimal amount of deaths is cause im taking things really slow lmao
west chasm
Dont be
I mean i won at like 4 runs
For the first time
But i have rougelike expertise
Focus on upgrading that mirror
Get darkness
Use the dark thirst weapons
You need A LOT of darkness to get your mirror to be good enough to carry over mediocre rng for boons
mild needle
anyone has bow builds
west chasm
Depends what aspect
worthy egret
Lmao im at 42
mild needle
whichever is fine, as long as its the bow
mild needle
i used the hera bow with poseidon and explosive daedalus
got hades to like 3% hp =.=
still ded
oh and ares thingy too
worthy egret
And having to learn everything including controls and weapons and tactics and all that and feeling the improvement is,,, so good
Im really happy i got my butt kicked so hard
west chasm
@mild needle put the spoiler down 🔫
worthy egret
🔫
west chasm
Do yoh olay on KB or pad?
worthy egret
Keyboard
worthy egret
I know, super meat boy roasts me for it every time i open it
west chasm
Really?
novel wasp
really, keyboard king
worthy egret
Yeah the game roasts you for not using a gamepad
worthy egret
I should get back to that game
But ive already had myself wrecked by league of legends and hades no need to have smb do that to me too
west chasm
Well so
worthy egret
Child of light isnt wrecking me yet but im only like a bit past the first boss
Anywho
west chasm
@mild needle if you want to play with bow you want to use a good aspect along the right hammers
worthy egret
I really like the hammer that lets you charge your special
That's a lotta damage
And in a wide area
worthy egret
Oh, really? It feels way too good for me to pass up
But then again i know like nothing about builds
So ill just sneak out
west chasm
You get more damage with multiple specials since all damage bonuses are % based
For example, stygian sword
That weapon can play very well with Artemis on all aspects
mild needle
I just did a run with hera aspect and charge explosive daedalus but i picked the wrong call (aphrodite) and proceeded to lost all 4 lives
Literally useless
west chasm
Hm, what boons did you get?
mild needle
Poseidon knockback and +dmg
Ares wheel on cast
So you charge it up
Boom
With 3 ares thingy
west chasm
I don't really use that aspect
mild needle
I was hoping for hermes quick attacj
But i didnt get it
Or artemis crit
The charge takes like 1.5s
worthy egret
Great addition to the fork we already have
novel wasp
fork spoon and a knife
worthy egret
Varatha, or as I like to call it, the spork
slender needle
hey i have a question a bought the game after the last update and in the game it says that the next update is in 2-3 days when exactly does the update come out?
graceful bolt
Are they gonna add another biome to the game?
broken sail
have any of you guys found success with the gun? personally i find it to be a little bit weird
wet reef
You need to play either the long game and go for status curses that stack for basic attacks like dio or Demeter
Or go full burst build with hammer rocket upgrade
lusty stump
and have Eris aspect guide your path or something.
wet reef
Honestly I do feel all the aspects on rail are kinda lame
lusty stump
rail's aspects definitely are less apparent than say other aspects in the game, since with others they are define changes in way you play and with rail you always kind of hope the attack is decent or the special does insane amount of damage.
mental sleet
@novel wasp A marvellous blacksmith shall rise in the land of the Rising Sun, forging blades with surreal characters.
oak knot
When is the next update again so i can reinstall this game
mild needle
2 days
oak knot
Nice, alright thank you
mild needle
so i installed this game on saturday night, today i have 29h in game
my thumb hurts
uncut gull
rail's one of my favorite weapons tbh
brisk mulch
not the same for me
uncut gull
the bomb's the only special i find myself using consistently
brisk mulch
i dont like the rail all that much
uncut gull
all the others i genuinely just dont use in most runs lmao
graceful bolt
rail is my fave too. very strong and easy clears
brisk mulch
meh idk i feel it takes too long to kill and isnt that fun
uncut gull
thats how i feel about the bow
river socket
i didnt like rail at first either
uncut gull
rail with hestia aspect is just bow but quicker
river socket
now it's my favorite
brisk mulch
thats probably how ill feel when i get to very high heat
graceful bolt
the bow and railgun can do shotgun damage. the bows multiple projectiles and the rails shotgun 5 shot skill, if you stand close to an enemy it deals shotgun-damage and every hit couns. melts alot of things
uncut gull
true
lmao i had triple shot explosive hera bow with dionysus casts in my last run
literal nuke
mild needle
same
uncut gull
approach enemy, fire, do over 1k damage in 1 shot
graceful bolt
its sick
uncut gull
profit
mild needle
but mine was poseidon
orchid pagoda
Hey, does anyone know if there's official art of the House Contractor items?
Icons and stuff.
west chasm
I gotta say tho, some aspects feel a lil underwhelming at times
brisk mulch
yea
west chasm
Maybe i just get bad boons tho
uncut gull
i even snagged dio/demeter duo cast right at the end of the temple for even more hilarious aoe
brisk mulch
meh i think its alright
mild needle
daedalus literally upgrade it to infi ammo
river socket
dont think u should be talking about that scene in this chat
brisk mulch
especially siince i hate reloading with the rail
west chasm
It isn't bad it just hardly manages to be gamechanging
mild needle
you dont need to reload, just get the infi ammo daedalus upgrade
west chasm
All aspects are gamechanging
brisk mulch
@river socket damn you're right completely forgot about the chat
hope nobody saw that 
mild needle
NSFW
west chasm
Sword gives you movement and a better dash, bow gives you crits, shield is basically free bronze skin
mild needle
mild needle
sword zag aspect is meh
like the ms and the dash is nice and alll
but it doesnt change anything
west chasm
It actually does
brisk mulch
i like nemesis aspect quite alot actually
west chasm
You'd be surprised how helpful a longer dash is
west chasm
It's certainly more useful than more gun
mild needle
literally whole screen dash
brisk mulch
bow still my favourite
lusty stump
zagreus sword aspect and poseidon dash 
river socket
the bow is really fun
brisk mulch
hype 4 new update in 2 days
river socket
isnt it tomorrow?
brisk mulch
is it?
mild needle
i hope we get more aspects
mild needle
2 days
brisk mulch
i hope we get whip
mild needle
i want more aspects
river socket
and it's already the 9th everywhere in the world i think
brisk mulch
if they are then praise the lord
it is currently 10 50 pm on the 9th in australia rn
mild needle
2 days xD
remote turret
at what hour will be the update?
lusty stump
Probably in the afternoon EST time or evening EST time. Can't be for sure though, since there always can be last hour thing that may need a clear up.
mild needle
2 days
gleaming crane
Should be in roughly 30 hours.
lofty wolf
or they could ship it early and have whole working day to answers complains 😏
cyan umbra
So, the 11th then?
cyan umbra
Hmm, about noon in san fransisco, on the 11th
*10th
11th almost worldwide, except for US
Fair enough
Bit dissapointing, though
open vector
gleaming crane
It's on the evening of the 10th in Europe.
livid cargo
I believe the new weapon will be a cat
jade grove
A cat is fine.
wet reef
Catknife
its like the sword but quicker with less range and the special makes Zag do a "meow" sound
civic prism
I mean, the sword is already pretty fast a dagger seems a bit redundant ^^"
It's not like we're playing Kingdoms of Amalur lol
snow sail
civic prism
xD
novel wasp
so what im getting is that the aspects are supposed in chronological order of aspect
except the shield
which for some reason chaos is the latter than zeus
well again i guess it doesnt make sense for spear either consider three kingdoms happened way after the ancient greece era (guan yu)
karmic oasis
The aspects seem to follow a pattern of Zag>Non-Olympic Legend>OG Olympian>Wildcard (possibly non-Greek)
merry harbor
I think it's more Cthonic God, Olympic God, Other for the order.
aaay thanks soul for beating me to it
karmic oasis
we only have Guan-Yu to compare with for the wildcard, but I would imagine that would always be a fun fourth aspect to follow up
Yeah, the first unlocked aspect is kinda a lesser-god/mythical hero type deal. (except chaos, whos a prety big deal, but then again, is more or less forgotten in the current cosmos situation)
Thats why the new weapon might be related to demeter (though I doubt Hestia ever had a gun in an way shape of form in any legends lmfao)
so its not a GREAT clue as to WHAT the weapon will be, but a good indicator that there will be an aspect of Demeter
karmic oasis
Nemesis, Achilles, Chaos, Chiron, Eris
(second generation god, Hero, Forgotten, Hero, second generation god)
merry harbor
She was a daughter of Nyx, wasn't she?
novel wasp
Chaos literally slept like after they made the titans
karmic oasis
Nemeis and Eris are either or
novel wasp
there isnt much known about chaos
karmic oasis
some myths state they are Cthonic, some say they are daughters of Zeus
common denominator, they are a second or third generation god
novel wasp
even tho Harmony is a greek word but i feel like it should suit the Eris Roman counterpart
Discordia
Harmonia is greek
merry harbor
Yeah, I know that was her doing at least. I was probably getting her situation like, mixed up with another one in there.
novel wasp
and the roman name for Harmonia is Concordia
karmic oasis
Regardless of whether I am right and Demeter gets a weapon, I doubt SG will stick to pure logic, and theres no in depth canon on Titanomachy weapons as far as I have seen (based on non SG myths)
so guessing something to do with seasons or crops is probably a weak one
novel wasp
scythe
karmic oasis
They could make a Demeter Rocket Launcher for all we know lmao
karmic oasis
right, but none of the other weapons have logic like that associated with them
novel wasp
I think the sword?
karmic oasis
Poseidon? The game even jokingly takes on the fact that it uses a sword aspect of Poseidon
mild needle
next weapon: hammer
karmic oasis
because Hades is about the only one that is greek mythologically commonly refered to.
mild needle
sword spear bow shield gun
missing a hammer or a staff
karmic oasis
Zeus has some canon aspect to it, but he used lightning (which is the only reference to a weapon against the Titans I have seen)
novel wasp
i question some of the greek canonicity of the titans
they did said that they locked up all titans
karmic oasis
Hera is about as commonly seen with a bow as other gods, and again, the rail, for Hestia. SG can do whatever they damn want, they have developed no in-game canon on weapons
novel wasp
in tartarus, except some like atlas or the promethus
karmic oasis
so Scythe = Demeter, is not the logic I would go on in the end. Not that it matters in 48 hours squeeeee
novel wasp
but there were one iteration of dionysus being torn apart... by... titans?
flat vapor
give grandma a gun
novel wasp
where did they came from
grandma angry
imagine she came down to hell with ice machine gun and broke in "WHERES MY DAUGTHER"
karmic oasis
The legends of the underworld are massively divergent, depending on the culture. Its the least... i guess fleshed out I would say
novel wasp
also supposely her old look is ||due to persephone's missing and signify the winter's nothing can grow and everything withers symbolism||
karmic oasis
So that stuff is all over the place. I mean, much of it is. Its a collection of oral mythology that once in a while a guy put to paper with his own twist to make mad money lol
novel wasp
||would she turn young again if persephone is ever be seen again||
karmic oasis
||I think the gods kinda do what they want in terms of physical manifestation||
novel wasp
||but again, the og 6 gods are actually looking old so i guess they age?||
||weve seen hades zeus poseidon are actually old men||
karmic oasis
||Eh, they have the power to manifest as they see fit||
||and they may look aged, but in Hades they are pretty beefy||
||I think SG wants to show them in a more parental light, so they made the art as such||
novel wasp
||hades big gilf||
karmic oasis
||And now that I think of it, the second gen olympians are portrayed as zags siblings/cousins in terms of art similarity||
novel wasp
yep
karmic oasis
||Like, they obviously ARE from a family tree standpoint but from an existence standpoint not so much, but the art brings them all together cohesively. Very cool detail now that I notice it||
novel wasp
I wanna see Hera be that grandma who smokes
and is actually pissed at Zeus shenanigans
mild needle
how tf do you clear a run in 10m
novel wasp
a stage or a run?
mild needle
full run
flat vapor
practice a seed a lot and get a really good build
flat vapor
the world record is sub 7 i think
flat vapor
haelian has a bunch of his speed runs on his channel
karmic oasis
there was one posted here but I am not a big stream watcher so I can't remember who/what the name was
It was Haelian
Im trying to find the video I saw
river socket
ill post in gameplay actually
karmic oasis
IDK if this belongs here or gamplay.
nor do I know what qualifies as official speedruns
river socket
i posted here and deleted cuz the vid will include spoilers so i guess gameplay fit better
karmic oasis
Noticed haha
I am so slow at this game I can't even post a video or even the name of the dude faster than anyone lolol
solar scarab
E
flat vapor
23 minutes is average i think
lusty stump
I take my time a lot
novel wasp
yeah, i am literally not tryna flex lol
infact ive never able to go faster than that which was my 2nd win
lusty stump
and I usually do 12 runs so far, so on average 26 minutes or so.
novel wasp
im sad cause im doing the 7 min soon
i wanna catch up ZA SPEED
i still waste a lot of time when using especially bows or when i wanna farm my than keepsake
gray sun
So, I'm not sure if this is just me, but how many people actually use the Dash-Strike on Coronacht? It feels like it misses most of the time, and even when it does hit, the damage feels so pitiful. I'm not sure if I'm just using it wrong, or is the Bow Dash strike just really lackluster?
flat vapor
dash strike is my main way of playing bow
though it might depend on whether you play KBM or controller
gray sun
Controller
flat vapor
i find it easy to aim, but i play on kbm
gray sun
Must be the difference yeah, cause on Controller it just pops off a shot in the direction of the dash
mild needle
which is easier, controller or kbm
livid cargo
Up to player choice
Supergiant recommends controller but ive seen people like it with both
river socket
im usually more a kbm guy
novel wasp
im kbm
river socket
but i prefer controller for this
novel wasp
really
craggy brook
do we usually get patch notes today?
or is it tomorrow when update goes live?
v excited
novel wasp
calm down its gonna be up 2 days later
craggy brook
I cannot and will not calm down
novel wasp
i shall do the pillow over your face to suppress your excitement
craggy brook
please do that would help
novel wasp
do not resist
craggy brook
for real though, i'm hype
this game is awesome
best roguelike i've played in years
river socket
im prob not gonna have much time to try out the update until the weekend 
craggy brook
i mean it's probably another ranged weapon right?
novel wasp
throw the kitchen knife
river socket
ill be able to sneak in a run daily before bed i guess, but i get home late and tired
wet reef
hh
worthy egret
SPOON
near island
But where do I throw in bugs that I found?
near island
Oh, found it.
rotund granite
Any ideas who the new god is?
finite bay
I mean I would say Apollo or Hestia because they're some of the big ones, but we already have a lot of fire xD
rotund granite
They could instead be focusing on Apollo's association with music rather than his status as a solar deity?
warm dove
ITS 10/3 in my countryyyyyyy
wet reef
Wdym new God? There's no word of one for the next update
gray sun
@rotund granite Nyx art, since we're not getting boon granting gods until exiting early access
wet reef
Also Hestia is confirmed MIA by Demeter
Might also be two artworks like for Orpheus and Eurydice and Sisyphus and Bouldy
And since we still need Charon's artwork 👀💦
stiff summit
Anyone know what time the patch will be live?
wet reef
Uh
Depends on which timezone you're in
stiff summit
10/3 here now
wet reef
Lmao
If it's on schedule with most other patches it should be in around 24/25 hours