I'd love to see Apollo
#h1-discussion
shrewd veldt
trail raven
Plot twist : what if its Apollo
lean night
im thinking that demeter will be to do with healing and food
placid mortar
and help with farm gems
quartz blade
healing would be a bit busted
wooden tendon
when will major patch come? like how many hours?
fiery skiff
^same question
wooden tendon
can't wait to play
wooden tendon
oh...
limber goblet
I hope its there before I get home from work
night turret
We have atleast 7 hours to wait still
spiral karma
Yea... it's horrible :/ At least I hope they'll release the patch notes before hands
like an hour or two
just.. give us something to live on haha
buoyant heath
they release the patch notes in video form slightly early
fallen bramble
inb4 patch is awesome and fabolous
solemn arrow
patch waiting room
fiery skiff
winged cradle
dull oar
night turret
wooden tendon
If they postpone, I will definitely die.
and go back to hallroom and go grinding again!
spiral karma
limber goblet
fallen bramble
spiral karma
¯____/¯
granite egret
near cove
eugh
spiral karma
night turret
Eugh, that's cursed.
sharp parcel
what is this anyway
near cove
waiting sounds
spiral karma
@sharp parcel From Pyre
topaz canyon
when does patch drop
topaz canyon
oef
night turret
like in 7-8
spiral karma
night turret
Trader
spiral karma
The merchant dude
kind anvil
He's a little creepy thing sitting on a big dude's head
night turret
It's a mostly good game but I felt that it fell of after the first main event.
calm loom
kind anvil
6ish hours
winged magnet
Patch, when?
cold trail
empty ferry
21st in other timezones: I sleeb 
21st in Cali: ❗ 
❗
finite flicker
i was just about to ask when the patch would be released but it seems like im not the only one 🤣
night turret
Not the first one in last 6 hours at least.
trim current
Joining just to say. What a beautifully chaotic game.
kind anvil
Everyone right now
finite flicker
well im assuming itll be around 5pm my time but who knows
night turret
6 hours + -
haughty oracle
damn i've got an exam tomorrow, spend my time waiting for the patch, though I'm a professor
cursive steppe
Got me good
oak knot
Day XXX: I have been waiting for the new patch for too long i can't feel my legs anymore, my sense of time is distorted and i started to have hallucination of about the new olympian
oak knot
seems like everyone is excited for this new pokemon game
fallen bramble
It looks really cool
cursive steppe
Hadn't heard of it
fallen bramble
basically it's mmo pokemon
empty ferry
hades is an mmo pokemon game now?
sick dust
Yes
Absolutely
kind anvil
Except it's everyone just catching Zag's hands
sick dust
Ha!
blissful jay
amborguer
teal gorge
yeah everyone hyped about the Tem tem EA but it's afer our patch/update here...
I think update for Hades is in 2 hrs? Tem is in like 5
wanton fractal
how big are the chances nintendo sues the hell out of them
sick dust
Concept is similar but they’ve made it unique
dense pivot
so yeah
that feelio when temtem will release before we get the updaterino
feels bouldy man
wanton fractal
there have been legal battles for less 😄
night turret
we have 5 hours till the update + - 1h
sick dust
I still stand by the belief it’ll be released at 8 am PST
when that is is dependent on your time zone
dim forum
Look back at announcements and you can see they usually release it at 8PM CET, so 5 hours + - 1
kind anvil
It's typically released 10-12 PST
sturdy musk
I am sooo excited
rose bobcat
.....do I skip general relativity to play when it goes live
sick dust
Is that a class? If so, yes absolutely
sturdy musk
Since this is my first Major Update since I started playing, I gotta ask, does the update go on top of your save, our do you have to start on a new save?
I would assume you save your progress, but..
cursive steppe
Don't cheat physics
night turret
Saves are safe
sick dust
It should keep your past stuff
That’s my assumption at least
sturdy musk
Yay
rose bobcat
It does
night turret
I have my from the start of EA on epic
sturdy musk
You made a potato even more happy than a potato could be happy
teal gorge
@sturdy musk Wiping savs not ilikely ince game is much passe early access and paid for already
dim forum
same here, had the same file since release day
teal gorge
but changes can happen
rose bobcat
@sick dust it is a class, and thus far it’s all review
teal gorge
with resources , nerfs - buffs, etc
sturdy musk
I would make myself go to the class and see playing the update as a reward for surviving the class
sick dust
I don’t have that much self control 👌
rose bobcat
If it’s on the early end of that 10-12 range I can get exactly one run in before heading to campus
So wait and hope
dim forum
Yeah go to class, update wont go anywhere
rose bobcat
But consider: h y p e
teal gorge
yeah, it's PvE - you'll have time to pace yourself lol
night turret
just don't look anywhere near this server untill you play it yourself
sturdy musk
I myself will be re-watching for the n-th time Friends by the time the update lands
and just checking on steam from time to time
I might even close Discord 😄
rose bobcat
Ugh you’re all so responsible unlike any of my other servers
night turret
Or you will be watching the Patch notes voiced by our faithfull narrator.
rose bobcat
Wait that’s a thing?
night turret
They tend to drop around an hour before the update.
sturdy musk
@night turret Waait what?
rose bobcat
I’ve had the game since it launched how did I not know that
sturdy musk
I just started the last video with Patch notes. Never been so happy
This is precious
radiant dune
patchday
sick dust
Patch day
kind anvil
Patch Day Hype
rose bobcat
I see SG members waking up
livid cargo
Itll still be a few hours
night turret
I'm gonna say that next 4 hours are gonna be empty, and then all bets are off.
oak knot
if i don't see the new patch coming up in the next 3 hours then SGG will be a liar 
dense pivot
it's 6 am in cali and I believe people said they usually release at around noon
so there's still alotta time to go
sharp charm
btw are the noclip videos on this game done? or will there be more coming up in the future?
hot raft
not done yet, more to come
i think the next one is coming in february
noclip just released the documentary about transistor a couple of days ago
solemn arrow
can't wait for the next one. The 3 that we got right now are so good.
flint fossil
Next doc is likely on Pyre which I'm excited for
One after that might be a Hades one finishing up development
trail void
I'm used to waiting for game updates. Overwatch, Destiny 2, this wait will be no different. Best thing to do is usually just play something else in the meantime or catch up on a show or something. Time will fly that way.
flint fossil
There is a good chance a lot of these ones about their other games were made back when they first visited
And only for the updates to Developing Hell do they go back
And we've gotten like, 2 more total so far?
3 trips total doesn't seem bad esp since SG is near a lot of other places
dense pivot
everyone thinks it's demeter
woeful robin
Even if hephestus would be hype as all Hades
dense pivot
which is why i think it's a bait and switch
dim forum
Demeter is almost certain
dense pivot
the crops are a lie people
it's like those "who's that pokemon" thing
where the silhouette is a lie
woeful robin
"It's a jigglypuff as seen from above!"
dense pivot
and then they show a completely different picture
paper hornet
Yeah!, it's like the Pokemon thing lol
dim forum
iirc it was quite obvious with Hermes as well and that wasnt a bait
paper hornet
And which power do you think they will bring?
woeful robin
that's how they get you baited in for real.
woeful robin
The power of wheat
oak knot
did anyone guess Chaos correctly before he was released
dim forum
no clue but I feel like Chaos is a special case
grizzled crag
chaos is on another lvl of greek mythology though
night turret
You dipping into long forgotten history
tepid osprey
Predictions for Demeter's theme?
I can't imagine much else than healing which seems op
night turret
Pies.
paper hornet
It would be great if new music is added. The last patch did not add any track, but, I still love all of them
rose bobcat
I want them to play up the fact that she’s ||his grandmother||
dim forum
Do we even know that she will give boons?
rose bobcat
Wrong spoiler tag
paper hornet
Oh, Heal would be great, but I don't think that might happen
dense pivot
i don't think you need to spoiler real mythology lol
sinful falcon
She deffo will have boons
gleaming crane
Some people did guess Chaos. Not many though.
woeful robin
Sorta feel like demeters could be slows. Only one fulfilling that role otherwise is dio with aoe.
rose bobcat
Increased item drop rates?
tepid osprey
Yeah Demeter could be ice stuff too good point
sharp parcel
Poseidon already covers items
vivid jungle
Does anyone know when should we expect the update today?
oak knot
didn't even know when was chaos out, i played since steam release
grizzled crag
maybe some interaction boons like hermes
dense pivot
i hope it's not slow but yeah also expecting it mostly to be ice related because of the winter thing in her mythology
grizzled crag
like changing core mechanics
echo wolf
Honestly, I'm convinced it's demeter, but I can 100% see it being hera or apollo either
tepid osprey
Also also
sinful falcon
I kinda want zag to actually just go have fun in Olympus
tepid osprey
How do you spoiler?
dim forum
Yeah she could have something more along the lines of Hermes / Chaos, not the traditional boons
sharp parcel
use ||
rose bobcat
Double bars
sharp parcel
|| at the beginning and end ||
dense pivot
nah just highlight it and right click it
sharp parcel
that too
paper hornet
I think it would be great if it is kind of a new power, instead of interaction with another Olympians power
dense pivot
no need for bars
woeful robin
||or just the /spoiler command||
sharp parcel
||banana||
paper hornet
Freezing would be great, but, that is not different from Slowness from Hermes
Right?
sharp parcel
no
rose bobcat
Demeter gives you the power of GUN
echo wolf
What if
sinful falcon
GUN
sharp parcel
Freeze leads to Shatter
echo wolf
Life gain
tepid osprey
||It's literally winter every time you reach the surface. But winter was supposed to be because persephone was trapped in the underworld||
sharp parcel
which is very much different from Hermes' movement slow
woeful robin
inb4 the new god is persephone.
oak knot
lifesteal is too op
sharp parcel
it can't be Persephone
sinful falcon
||did persephone escape the underworld?||
echo wolf
But you give up on damage
rose bobcat
Overheal?
paper hornet
Lifesteal would be great, yeah. But, I might broke the game
sharp parcel
the figure is too wide and stout
woeful robin
||that's the joke.||
rose bobcat
Keep it to a strict limit
grizzled crag
maybe playing around the replacing boons more , giving better boon trades with extra effects . that could be interesting
rose bobcat
But a temporary HP boost
dim forum
||What if Persephone hasn't left Hades at all? Hence the winter above ground||
stable bloom
When do they Normally go live with patches?
dense pivot
||she most likely just didn't make it||
paper hornet
You know?, maybe a Shield would be great, I mean, such as the yellow bars of the enemies
woeful robin
Noooooo
sinful falcon
||I mean it is said nobodys ever got out...||
sharp parcel
@dim forum || it's winter because she left Underworld but didn't return to Olympus ||
paper hornet
And a few % of that damage, heals you
empty ferry
winter is when Persephone isnt at Olympus
paper hornet
That would be nice
empty ferry
in the og myths
knotty epoch
||is the final area actually outside??||
dense pivot
who knows
sharp parcel
I actually don't remember if a similar event occurs in any of her myths
echo wolf
||What if Olympus is holding her captive, so neither hades nor demeter has her||
rose bobcat
Plot twist she’s in one of those locked rooms behind Achilles
cursive steppe
Do we know for sure there will be another area?
woeful robin
Hephestus could be pretty difficult to portray though thanks to the cheating and all that
sharp parcel
there will be no more new biomes
steel viper
Zag is actually in the matrix and everything is a simulation
sharp parcel
and no gods after Demeter
dense pivot
i knew it
dim forum
Wouldn't Hephaestus be sorta similar to Daedalus?
solemn frigate
still no patch notes?
dense pivot
also wait really
woeful robin
depends on how you interpret him
night turret
Maybe we will get an epilogue then 1.0 will hit, but nothing more.
sharp parcel
after Demeter, there will be a new weapon and 1 more aspect for each weapon, plus fully fleshed out relationships with everyone and 2 more companions
woeful robin
Deadelus was an engineer while haphaestus is a smith, broken armor on enemies and the like could come with that.
sinful falcon
When's the update again
cursive steppe
But this update can't be just a god can it
flint fossil
lets not tell them just to make them more anxious
sharp parcel
they need to rework companions, too
native patrol
hoyp
rose bobcat
Also, I know they’re the hammers of Daedalus but is Zagreus the one doing the upgrades himself
dim forum
Update in about 5 hours, give or take an hour if they release it around the same time as the previous ones
woeful robin
Yup
sharp parcel
@rose bobcat they're magical
sinful falcon
woeful robin
he uses the tools of Daedalus which are magical
flint fossil
its a god and some other things
sharp parcel
he just smacks the weapon and it happens
flint fossil
hopefully they make it so they hydra is less poo
dense pivot
i mean the previous few big updates also didn't have new biomes so why would this one?
trim surge
why daedalus over hephaistos btw
flint fossil
dumb hydra heads going off into the lava
woeful robin
Because one is a god.
sinful falcon
Hydra so dull
woeful robin
And can thus be added as a god later.
sharp parcel
heads should spawn in the middle of the ground
sinful falcon
Aphrodite/Zag ftw
sharp parcel
and there should be less lava and more ground around em
woeful robin
Hydra does have one use though, getting high critical numbers.
sinful falcon
The whole area is kinda tedious fwiw
flint fossil
elysium worst area, hydra worst boss fight in terms of design
rose bobcat
Elysium is tedious Asphodel is fine
sharp parcel
@sinful falcon Aphrotiddy tells you to keep your willy in your pants, lest you want a personal visit from her husbando
grizzled crag
anyone else feel that there should be a heat modifier for adding extra rooms ?
flint fossil
i like all the biomes besides elysium
dense pivot
i prefer elysium to asphodel
sinful falcon
I like elysium never had a problem
trim surge
Hephaistos could give you hammer just like Hermes is just speed buffs
sinful falcon
@sharp parcel LOL
flint fossil
elysium becomes a massive issue when you turn trap damage up and they just line the walls
woeful robin
That kinda goes against mythological aphro though.
rose bobcat
I don’t like having to get through 4 health bars for one enemy
sharp parcel
not joking btw, that's what she says, figuratively
flint fossil
more claustrophobic than styx
dense pivot
but all biomes feel kinda barren, they still need a lot of work until 1.0
flint fossil
i think tartarus is fine as is
sinful falcon
Her dialogue tree ismt done I think
flint fossil
as a starting area its perfect
sinful falcon
Its zag mate
flint fossil
styx is also probably finished
sinful falcon
If anyone can date gods its him
sharp parcel
it's her final nectar line, as I recall
flint fossil
elysium and asphodel have the biggest problems imho
trim surge
kinda done with the game right now, waiting for update and hoping it's more than just a god
flint fossil
what do you mean things to do? the whole shop area?
sharp parcel
she's grateful for the gifts but doesn't want you to get the wrong impression, cause she's already happily married
to Ares
flint fossil
i hope you realize that is supposed to be an end game shop before the final boss right
dense pivot
yeah it has shop, you have a choice of continuing or stopping exploring at will
flint fossil
typical game trope
dense pivot
etc.
sinful falcon
Still gonna do it
sinful falcon
Ares can 1v1 me
flint fossil
you go into those rooms not to explore but it get the bag and haul it
sharp parcel
it's ok, you can't do it anyway cause you're down under
dense pivot
well if it was then you wouldn't get the choice to go back in before heading out heh
flint fossil
you do that if your build sucks and you need more
rose bobcat
No joke @sinful falcon I really want there to be a postgame “1v1 the Olympians” area
dense pivot
that's a meta reason tho
flint fossil
yeah and zag's reason too 
flint fossil
why would zag just stay and be like 'mmm nice styx we got here' he's trying to escape
its not a meta reason it is the reason
sharp parcel
@rose bobcat you climb Olympus and Zeus shoves a lightning bolt down your throat
sinful falcon
Zag v Zeppman winner gets Aphrodite
dense pivot
||zag doesn't know that hades is waiting outside the first time and he still makes a comment "hmm maybe i should explore more of these rooms"||
so yeah
flint fossil
zag thinks in the same capacity of the meta since he's the one trying to get out - not just us
woeful robin
Also regarding Styx and being done it does have some issues with its troves being limited by the spawn speed of the small rats.
dense pivot
wait what
flint fossil
@dense pivot that's general preparational stuff though. he knows there are rewards in the rooms and he knows there is more ahead
dense pivot
that sounds like a bug
sharp parcel
troves in Styx are broken
they summon a boatload of armored enemies for me most of the time
troves are more difficult than final tunnel rooms
woeful robin
Probably just a design flaw, but when you roll small rats you'll have to wait for them to spawn
dense pivot
||nah he specifically doesn't know there's more ahead he says that he knows he's out but maybe he still should head back in just to check it out||
flint fossil
also i think zag knew the || old man would show up at the end, Hades even says it when you beat elysium ||
sinful falcon
I dont think zag knew
sharp parcel
he knew
flint fossil
he definitely knew
sinful falcon
Did he
dense pivot
nah he says he didn't
flint fossil
he was told
sinful falcon
He seemed surprised
flint fossil
if i was told by my old man he's beat my butt on the lawn and then it actually happened i would still be surprised too
sinful falcon
He might have knew there was more but doubt he knew his own dad would be there to stop him
Unless you have the actual dialogue on hand
flint fossil
that's moreso my point
going back for more rewards to prepare for the coming challenge
sinful falcon
Well no the point was he knew it would be his dad
flint fossil
doesn't really need to be the old man
sinful falcon
Which he didn't
woeful robin
I feel like I missed a ton of dialogue by powering through both elyssium and styx in the first run I beat the game on.
sinful falcon
You literally said
flint fossil
bruh
sinful falcon
'Zag knew the old man would show up'
trim surge
dialogue isn't important
flint fossil
do i literally have to go up and quote it
sinful falcon
How else am I meant to interpret that
flint fossil
@dense pivot that's general preparational stuff though. he knows there are rewards in the rooms and he knows there is more ahead
@sinful falcon
bruh
read sometimes
sinful falcon
You legit said
trim surge
I like little quips especially those who track your actions or the furies guessing but I don't need to hear from Ares for the 100th time that he's a sadist
indigo mango
easy folks
flint fossil
you're talking about an entirely different part of the conversation that's besides the point
sinful falcon
also i think zag knew the || old man would show up at the end||
@flint fossil
Which is what I said was wrong
You seem confused
With what I'm talkin about
flint fossil
did you miss the "I also think" part?
woeful robin
While you don't need to hear that there's interactions from hypnos and the like for making it certain lengths.
sinful falcon
But its ok
flint fossil
the subject wasn't that
indigo mango
this is supposed to be the no spoilers chat
sinful falcon
Yeah I just told you that was wrong
dense pivot
lul
flint fossil
And you're wrong?
dense pivot
yeah you bois gave up on that no spoilers thing huh
flint fossil
dense pivot
bad bois
sinful falcon
Its okay forge we all make mistakes 👏
flint fossil
At least I can read 
sinful falcon
Hey I'm not insulting him
flint fossil
don't worry he'll keep it going, these people always do
sharp parcel
no, I'm here for the darkness trade in option
flint fossil
see
sinful falcon
"These ppl always do" you keep roasting me for what chill
flint fossil
lmao see here it goes
indigo mango
bruh
oak knot
great conversation
kind anvil
sinful falcon
Anyways
last marsh
flint fossil
what? he's the one posting firsta bout this nonsense
sinful falcon
Zag/Aphrodite
dense pivot
...
flint fossil
you're just mad because I disagreed with you earlier so you should calm yourself down too @dense pivot
last marsh
idk whats going on but chill
sinful falcon
flint fossil
dense pivot
yeah like that
last marsh
no ones gotta be mad we have patch today
no ones allowed to be upset today. its patch day
indigo mango
y u haff 2 b madt
flint fossil
^
oak knot
it's tomorrow for me so i have the right to be upset you ghost
flint fossil
That sucks
indigo mango
lol
oak knot
honestly i might just sleep, maybe leave the server and come back when i play the game tomorrow, a perfect plan
indigo mango
yeah im prolly gonna end up spoiling meself
scenic herald
Did they state when the patch will go live?
last marsh
i have all these servers for games hidden in a folder and muted
flint fossil
No, but we can assume from previous updates it'll be around 2pm EST or so @scenic herald
I believe that's 12pm for SG iirc
scenic herald
@flint fossil I'm pretty new to the game so I don't know the patch patterns, thanks for the info 
kind anvil
Some time between 10-12 PST based on prior updates
fallen bramble
@oak knot don't be so rational 
oak knot
hah i'm a random internet person, i can say whatever i want but most likely won't execute it later
brisk trail
what a crazy stir around the patch 
shut sluice
was there always such craziness about an upcoming patch, or is it just because of this new one?
harsh epoch
update soon
oak knot
i think the atmosphere is the same with every big patch
tepid osprey
Probably more people here since the steam release too
harsh epoch
yeah
spiral karma
SO HYPED
harsh epoch
i only have the game since last tuesday
while i wait ill do one run in hades now and then probably watch some stuff on youtube till the update drops
livid cargo
Im so excited
prisma cloak
How many hours left?
harsh epoch
nobody knows
grizzled crag
livid cargo
Probably more like 4-5
harsh epoch
im not sure what country is supergiant in
harsh epoch
guess we still have to wait a bit then
grizzled crag
demeter 99%
heady heron
cornucopia
tepid yacht
update is usually sometime in the afternoon california time, but there's no set time.
prisma cloak
So that stuff behind are wheat or something I suppose?
heady heron
its the cornucopia
a horn that gives unlimited food
demeter = goddess of spring/abundance
buoyant heath
the cornucopia is the big horn behind her
prisma cloak
oh!
woeful robin
and the halo is clearly wheat.
prisma cloak
I see
buoyant heath
not the sheaves of wheat
woeful robin
so yeaaaaah
prisma cloak
I learned something today.
woeful robin
wait
buoyant heath
could be a laurel
woeful robin
january 21st 2019
trim surge
give update or I'll be very angery
heady heron
isnt demeter also somehow related to the olympics or am i high?
grizzled crag
someone goofed its supposed to be 2020
buoyant heath
@heady heron uhhhh
woeful robin
Fake leak
buoyant heath
they're the olympian gods
coarse junco
Lol
heady heron
well yeah
but i know the romans had something with laurels and they were pretty important
woeful robin
I know. Forgot to add an emote.
brisk trail
Demeter is the goddess of the harvest and agriculture
prisma cloak
I just hope we get a new weapon or maybe new aspects for each weapon.
buoyant heath
I just want the hydra removed
prisma kite
ayy so Zagreus is gonna meet his grandma?
prisma cloak
and have the time stop while Than is walking to wherever he's going
buoyant heath
I predict that demeter is the same sort of god as hermes
prisma kite
hydra fight is fine; only the extreme measures fight is kinda annoying that it gets to chase you in the last phase while still dealing with the other heads and it stays invulnerable whilst doing so
knotty epoch
ykw speaking of than, anyone else bothered by how he bounces you back?
prisma kite
fair enough
halcyon cypress
@prisma kite I mean demeter is both his grandma and his aunt...
prisma cloak
@knotty epoch well he gets impervious when he's hit right
woeful robin
It's slow and not difficult enough to warrant the time it takes.
If the heads spawned faster it'd be a lot more fun.
knotty epoch
well he gets impervious when he's hit right
which is fine if he didn't also stand in the middle of every group of enemies for some reason
prisma kite
@halcyon cypress you're not wrong
shrewd pond
will the game have the whole pantheon?
buoyant heath
I doubt it
knotty epoch
he doesn't even hit them himself; he uses his magic nonsense to do it
buoyant heath
there are a lot of gods
grizzled crag
maybe give the main head dmg reduction for each head up instead of imunity
shrewd pond
Calling it now- Demeter will have lifesteal effects
near cove
I wish Demeter to be the normal god
winged leaf
FOOD - Health
buoyant heath
I bet it won't
halcyon cypress
Not lifesteal
woeful robin
growth - abundance
shrewd pond
so better drop % you think?
winged leaf
lifesteal will probably break the balance of the game
woeful robin
Tbh Poseidon and dio already do her tasks
grizzled crag
maybe her call is a 10% heal or something
prisma cloak
@prisma kite probably make us grow wood
prisma kite
i think it'll be food related yeah, like raising the chance at food, making food better, etc etc
prisma cloak
food
prisma kite
that turned weird for a second there bou
winged leaf
Demeter and Aprhodita duo will be tanky as hell
grizzled crag
replace darkness rooms with food rooms !
shrewd pond
gameplay effects aside, it will be interesting to see her input in the story...
woeful robin
Would probably increase loot chances if poseidon wasn't a thing. Which could mean poseidon is getting a rework.
native patrol
root status
prisma cloak
my ring finger just gravitated to the 'w' instead of 'f'
prisma kite
i wonder if demeter will even know the truth that zag is the son of her daughter
because the other olympians don't seem to know
haughty oracle
||Supergiants make eschatological experience with every game, so I'm waiting to find out that the winter above is the nuclear winter, and it's the future, not the past||
wooden flame
It's been confirmed new god is Demeter
prisma kite
heck zag doesn't even know demeter is his mom's mom
wooden flame
??
prisma kite
speculation
winged leaf
spoilers I guess?
grizzled crag
haughty oracle
sorry
buoyant heath
A 10% heal call would be broken and boring
knotty epoch
wouldn't the more spoilery thing be demeter and ||her relationship to zag||?
prisma kite
i'm more interested with the interactions tbh
buoyant heath
I expect her to be like hermes
grizzled crag
^
buoyant heath
Demeter being an offensive god feels very off-brand
native patrol
well we got aphro hitting harder than ares already so
prisma kite
i just wonder what game mechanic there currently is in the game that'd fit her other than food
sick dust
Demeter could be a god focused on maintaining health
buoyant heath
^
grizzled crag
im interested what they gonna add to lategame progression
sick dust
Like Hermes’s dash boon that heals you 40% or whatever
shrewd pond
the next question is how will the Pantheon be complete since both Dionysus and Hestia have been referenced in the game, and yet they cant both be part of the Pantheon
wooden flame
I want more stuff after the end
prisma kite
why can't they?
wooden flame
Is that considered spoiler?
ebon slate
Hmm, Supergiant team in general it is necessary to comply with ancient Greek mythology?
knotty epoch
demeter boon idea: basically just bloodborne's rally
shrewd pond
no
they dont
and i dont want to be mr analytical
im enjoying the game as is and trust these guys
im just curious
stuck tiger
can someone tell me what's hitting me here? https://clips.twitch.tv/PeacefulNaiveCoyoteStoneLightning
buoyant heath
charm is buggy
wheat inlet
I would love to see Demeter be like a summons god. Like her abilities summon plants that fight for you or something like that
prisma kite
why couldn't hestia and dionysus be in the pantheon at the same time? is that like that mycene greece pantheon and classical greece pantheon difference? because i think that in mycenean greece version of the pantheon poseidon was the big boss
not zeus
halcyon cypress
Charm is hitting you
wheat inlet
I wanna see her bring some brand new mechanics
stuck tiger
My charm is hitting me?
halcyon cypress
Yes
buoyant heath
there's a pantheon of 12 gods, and either of those gods are considered the 12th
lyric talon
I'm still hoping for Apollo to someday preordain RNG for me
buoyant heath
yeah
stuck tiger
Sorry what
buoyant heath
charm bad
halcyon cypress
Charm hurts like hell
ebon slate
@stuck tiger Hoof blow?
lyric talon
Hehe
little thistle
Does anyone know when the update usuaky goes live?
stuck tiger
oh i see
scenic quarry
everytime someone asks when the patch goes up someone at SG games inc presses the button that extends the wait time by an hour
halcyon cypress
I hope they add more duo boons with existing goda that dont have duos with each other
stuck tiger
So what, just don't use charm?
got another clip of charm screwing me
https://clips.twitch.tv/CovertCrowdedNigiriCoolStoryBob
terse delta
Use it carefully
stuck tiger
or only used it on ranged heroes
halcyon cypress
Use it wisely
hallow grove
Maybe it's fixed today! Who knows?
knotty epoch
if you have the call and are spooked to use it because of the bug, you can wait until max and it's pure damage
terse delta
or well, hopefully they'll fix it today
hallow grove
I just use charm exclusively to nullify final boss attacks lol
stuck tiger
@knotty epoch that's what i'd usually do, but i thought i'd make use of it abit more
allas i was wrong
prisma kite
when will the patch drop btw? like at what time can we expect it? it's 5pm here atm :p
stuck tiger
only had the game a week ._.
halcyon cypress
@stuck tiger enjoying it?
hallow grove
It's an early access things, sometimes things will be bugged and get fixed
halcyon cypress
Whats ur fav weap?
hallow grove
You can't judge the whole game on one bugged mechanic, even if it's frustrating lol
trim current
So since no one has asked in the last 30 seconds or so.
When does the patch drop ?
prisma kite
i don't recall but does charm stop the last boss from attacking as well? i don't think so ye?
trim current
❤️
stuck tiger
@halcyon cypress really loving it
stuck tiger
x)
fallen bramble
will the stream be on yt or twitch
prisma kite
it's fornicatingly great
grizzled crag
@prisma kite you can cancel his animations and casts with it and charms for a realy short duration
near cove
guys is that truth that in Japan update is live already, its January 22 for them
hallow grove
@prisma kite It does if you use it in response to their attacks. So if they're in the middle of a swing, you can use the charm to stop their attack for a moment
stuck tiger
i have 13 wins over like 35 runs
heavy bridge
stream?
stuck tiger
which i don't think is bad
halcyon cypress
Fav weap?
stuck tiger
sword
halcyon cypress
Hell yeah
stuck tiger
the damage combo is insane
heady heron
im close to three digits rn
prisma kite
raid with hestia aspect maxed out is pretty great
fallen bramble
@heavy bridge last patch had one so I assume this one has too
halcyon cypress
Sword gang for life
heady heron
but waitin for upgate to grind my final few
stuck tiger
dash attacks are so much dmg
prisma cloak
Nemesis sword is imba
stuck tiger
x3
heady heron
at like 83 rn
prisma kite
too bad it doesn't synergise with the shotgun upgrade
stuck tiger
+crit chance just for specialling now and then
although i had a bow build that was doing 8k dmg every 5 seconds or so
halcyon cypress
Chiron bow?
heady heron
bow gang
stuck tiger
the one you can spam your cast on
prisma kite
- rail 2)spear 3)bow 4)shield 5)sword
halcyon cypress
prisma kite
sword is only good for poseidon aspect and cast build imho
halcyon cypress
Spear 2?
stuck tiger
think he's doing weapons worst to best
halcyon cypress
We coo then
austere gazelle
not running maxed Zagreus Sword + Lambent Plume
not becoming the fast
grizzled crag
are the overall run statistics posted somewhere ? or they keeping it a secret ?
fervent crystal
prisma kite
ngl i can hardly wait for the patch
woeful robin
Rail worst 
fallen bramble
@prisma kite crit sword is really good aswell, imo it's better than poseidon
prisma kite
how the heck is rail the worst
woeful robin
fallen bramble
halcyon cypress
Spear worst
stuck tiger
low dmg + low mobility?
woeful robin
Low damage???
grizzled crag
https://giphy.com/gifs/vk7VesvyZEwuI RAIL WORST
woeful robin
U WOT
frigid dust
spear is super solid
visual shell
i mean
heady heron
every weapon is good lol
prisma cloak
@heady heron I was about to say that
autumn pagoda
update should be today? usually SGG making post at twitter 1 day before.
prisma kite
critt hestia thanatos chaos dmg upgrades
woeful robin
It's a jack of all trades.
visual shell
the only weapon that gives mobility is shield
quasi cliff
what time is the update?
heady heron
it depends on your playstyle
frigid dust
Achilles spear gives great mobility
stuck tiger
@heady heron i presume that's maxed out tho?
hallow grove
Spear is good once you realize the Special+Dash attack combo that deals an automatic backstab damage into a dash attack
heady heron
yh
heady heron
but even level 2 hestia is good
literally level it up once
and you can carry with it through a lot of heats
below 15 at least
prisma kite
i like the rapid attack spear builds
heady heron
i did a 24 heat with it
visual shell
unfortunately the problem with a lot of weps is that they require a specific set of boons / ups to work
woeful robin
Rapid spear gets outclassed in terms of hits per second by a rapid fire rail.
heady heron
unless you run HB 
visual shell
while others are useful in every situation
kinda impossible to balance everything though
prisma kite
@woeful robin it does but it feels more satisfying as you don't need to reload
woeful robin
The reload is what makes it satisfying.
quasi cliff
any ideas what time will the patch be released
heady heron
Hunting blades squad where you at
visual shell
hestia rail + infinity chamber pog
old coral
grizzled crag
prisma kite
LMAO don't even joke about that
flat garnet
Hey, I've seen a couple of people talk about a stream now but no time etc.
Isn't this something we should be able to ask mods on here?
At least if there will be a stream at all. (I'm new so maybe someone has more experience with that)
visual shell
usually drops in the evening GMT
woeful robin
Besides, the reload is a great chance to get your special off.
visual shell
so 4-5 hours from now seems correct
quasi cliff
ayyt thx boys
visual shell
also gib patch <o/
flat garnet
kk
woeful robin
get your apm high enough and there is no downtime
visual shell
don't know though hestia rail and a sword with world splitter feel very similar to me
am i the only one that feels this way
heady heron
lets be honest
woeful robin
Yup
flat garnet
I just thought devs would want us to know ahead when the stream is so many people can join
woeful robin
I'd probably rank sword lowest thanks to enemies getting caught over pits.
knotty epoch
you're missing out on damage if you aren't reload+specialing with rail on basically every dash you can
heady heron
and if you get the projectile bull charge
woeful robin
"even poison works"
visual shell
chaos sh + poison is braindead mode
terse delta
chaos shield is a bit brain-dead weapon because it just goes everywhere
halcyon cypress
Where my Zeus Shielders at
woeful robin
Representing
heady heron
i still havent found a way to use zeus shield
terse delta
set-and-forget kind of thing
heady heron
i think thats my least used after achilles
woeful robin
I meant as well
terse delta
everything gets hit
soft wadi
Zeus is so fun
woeful robin
Press Q, call it after you and kill everything behind you.
narrow karma
there's gonna be a stream for new patch?
heady heron
its good for the 32 heat clear
woeful robin
Especially the damn carts
opal crescent
is the update live yet?
halcyon cypress
@woeful robin OMG YES
stuck tiger
@heady heron i find the zues shield insnae
heady heron
(i have to still max it so not doin it)
halcyon cypress
thats the best feeling
stuck tiger
amazing for applying procs
terse delta
I'd say that chaos shield is p much one of the only feasible weapons to clear 32 heat
heady heron
whats your build @stuck tiger
visual shell
32 heat is only for bragging rights anyway
woeful robin
It procs consistently though.
stuck tiger
radius doesn't matter cause you can manipulate it / enemy positions ez
terse delta
but getting something like Zeus attack boon is mandatory on rail if you don't want to literally die of old age
winged magnet
Patch, when?
flat garnet
@visual shell rogue lites are all about bragging rights 😄
heady heron
again its prolly the weapon im worst with
visual shell
anything above is sweatmode
heady heron
cus the manip is tough for me
woeful robin
hit walls with it and you get plenty of chances to throw and hit with it even if it fails to be stuck on the enemy
heady heron
like it just floats right
i dont manually control it
unless i have literally been playing it wrong
stuck tiger
you're looking to have it either stack doom/ or posion i find, and use it to clear groups
you can also get it to follow you ofcourse
heady heron
ok so just the follow
again thats too slow a playstyle for me
i can see how that could be fun
woeful robin
throw it out and keep knocking enemies it into it then.
heady heron
but im usually aiming for fast times
woeful robin
works great
narrow karma
what about standing in it and luring enemies to you?
woeful robin
that's waaaay too slow
stuck tiger
laya throw is out then dash to the side to push enemies into it i find
just keep it ontop of bosses for extra dps
while going from side to side of 'em
heady heron
or i can throw 6 casts at hades with vicious cycle on them and laugh in Hunting blades
narrow karma
6 casts with burst shot
terse delta
get Charon's keepsake and use that +1 cast
heady heron
I think my best run has been the duo plus both legendaries (Art and Ares) and i got burst shot plus the extra bolt fired on cast)
stuck tiger
and 7 casts on hera is insane ;D
trail raven
Um , patch is today right ?
heady heron
plus black metal and the other level 2
i think i also had the hermes legendary which makes cast instantly return to you
basically god run
for hera bow
narrow karma
woeful robin
that's some choice
heady heron
seen that before
and i will always pick hunting blades XD
zeus art is trash
and athena art is ok
fallen bramble
I'd pick the 3rd one too
trim surge
zeus needs rework
halcyon cypress
Take the artemis boon
heady heron
definetly does
winged magnet
hunting blade imo
trail raven
G-guys :(
Patch is today right ?
trim surge
I always cringe when the run tries to feed me zeus boons
heady heron
if you have ares cast chances are you were prolly going for hunting blades
bitter valve
technically yes it is today
knotty epoch
Patch is today right ?
yes
trail raven
Yaaay !
bitter valve
but my today is gonna end in 4 hours
terse delta
heady heron
dont mess with zeus
he actually has good damage
with shield or spear
he just isnt viable on stuff like chiron and hera
trail raven
Is it in 24 hours ?
halcyon cypress
Zeus is a tad underrated
fallen bramble
What's the time in california
narrow karma
if you have ares cast chances are you were prolly going for hunting blades
I wasn't, I didn't want the single boosted attack from a kill
today started 21 mins ago
heady heron
oh lol
knotty epoch
What's the time in california
8:21 am
fallen bramble
@knotty epoch ty
trail raven
So is it tomorrow for Europeans ?
glacial bronze
no
knotty epoch
not yet
trail raven
the patch i mean
glacial bronze
17h22 in Europe
trail raven
cool so tomorrow for me 😦
glacial bronze
but the patch may be (tomorrow in europe)
knotty epoch
inb4 literally 11pm PST drop :^)
narrow karma
it does drop at the same time for everyone, right? regardless of time zone?
glacial bronze
i think so
fallen bramble
@narrow karma yes, this isn't blizzard
trail raven
I am confusion ; so is it in 2-3-4 hours or in 17 hours ?
narrow karma
no set time frame afaik
heady heron
2-3-4
narrow karma
seems everyone's been assuming off previous patches
vague frigate
what are you talking about? zeus is strong
poseiden needs a rework, his skills are a joke vs bosses
strong vs mobs though
heady heron
thats the point
heady heron
i think people tend to not understand that certain boons are designed for situations
worn warren
i like zeus' dash and call, all the rest feel weak
vague frigate
his throw is strong too
narrow karma
Zeus attack wrecks on the high fire weapons
stuck tiger
Poseden dash + zues duo & legendary + 5 dashes :3
vague frigate
his x and y are weak unless you get the jolt
heady heron
zeus is about chaining on groups of enemies
knotty epoch
what are x and y? kbm masterrace
narrow karma
(what do both x and y buttons do?)
heady heron
so you have to spend time gatherign people
vague frigate
poseiden on the other hand is a huge silly joke vs last 2 bosses
worn warren
attack and special
glacial bronze
and poseidon can be REALLY strong if u get the duo with zeus (still remember my run with chiron bow full boost poseidon and zeus, anything got deleted)
heady heron
dio is about just staking on enemies so burst wont work
hermes is about evasion
athena about a more counter playstyle
vague frigate
if you need a duo to be strong, means you are weak
quasi cliff
dio can suck one
vague frigate
thats why poseiden is a big silly joke vs the last 2 bosses
bitter valve
I don't mind poseidon being weaker against bosses
vague frigate
he can sail through the early game with relative ease though
bitter valve
Although I don't like the fact that his boon pool has a bunch of meta progression stuff
vague frigate
you will mind when you have a poseiden build and fight ares and minotaur and you can't push them or anything
most of your damage is gone
then you have their armor and their spins, it just takes too long
knotty epoch
hot take: it's okay if some of the boons aren't as strong as the others; that's what makes it more like a roguelite
narrow karma
but did you die?
glacial bronze
it means ur weak alone against enemies with tons of hp@vague frigate , else it's perfectly fine (and rly good against tons of low hp enemies)
bitter valve
I played the game long enough to know that I don't mind and won't mind lol
vague frigate
i lost vs ares yes
tender tulip
That's why you don't go all-in on Poseidon attack boons
vague frigate
fight takes way too long, i was also new to winning to be fair, i never went back to trying poseiden
I just like all gods but him
stuck tiger
@tender tulip but you're forgetting the very serious point of memes
vague frigate
well im saying poseiden can't be your main attack vs those bosses or the fight will last forever
narrow karma
then it's not about taking too long, it's about not dodging well enough
quasi cliff
and again poseidon and dio can both suck a huge one
flint gust
Ok, imma go beat Hades down with just poseidon boons
frigid dust
why can dio suck one?