won't ma dude
#h1-discussion
brisk trail
let me gift meg some nectar while we're fighting i stg
mighty latch
just bought the game - is either controller / keyboard + mouse recommended or is it entirely personal preference?
fallow holly
I think both is alright
I play with Controller though and it flows
and I bought the Game an 2 hours ago and I love it! I think I also came pretty far with my second run!
brisk trail
both are fine, beat it on kbm without any issues on that front
opaque agate
it seems like the game has v-sync on by default. Any way to disable it ? or change the refresh rate for this game?
mighty latch
thanks, will probably try controller then:)
shadow mist
A 60-hour marathon is 2.5 days straight. Seek professional help.
brisk trail
Controller is recommended, lots of players (myself included) play with KBM.
shadow mist
Aim assist feels weird with a mouse, but it’s still helpful (usually)
brisk trail
I've got that off.
shadow mist
Especially when the hydra hitboxes aren’t where they look like they should be.
brisk trail
Yeah, you have to click on enemy's feet.
tardy kite
Is Ambrosia used for anything important? or just to trade at the dealer?
brisk trail
Advanced relationship meter stuff.
tardy kite
Okay good, I nearly traded it away for 500 darkness
tulip ravine
I traded blood away for gems because I figured I was beating Meg reliably at that point and of course my next run her sister shows up and stomps me.
loud holly
Murder one?
I have to say, this game is great
No idea where to leave this, but wanted to tell the devs that I'm amazed by the game they created 🙂
brisk trail
Is there anyone here who still hasn't bought the game on Steam?
I'd assume most people who bought it on Epic.
Yeah, but since they also gave away a GIFTABLE copy of Pyre, most people should've double dipped, right?
I bought a copy for my friend so he could play it and Pyre.
runic tartan
I avoid epic. So I'm a new user from steam.
And goodness have i played a lot in the 3/4 days it's been on steam
brisk trail
Anyhow, I received a key for Hades from a recent Steam broadcast, and since I had already bought the game and soundtrack bundle earlier, I'd like to gift it to a person who needs it and will make use of it (this can be someone who already early adopted the game on Epic and is hesitant to buy it for the second time).
brisk trail
You can gift it to yourself.
"Treat yo'self!"
Since I think Pyre is so underrated, I'd like to gift it to a person who already played Pyre, and which I can check from their Steam profile
brisk trail
Since I think Pyre is so underrated, I'd like to gift it to a person who already played Pyre, and which I can check from their Steam profile
@brisk trail where's the fun in that?
brisk trail
...Playing Pyre yourself if you haven't before?
loud holly
Because I have never played it and didn't know I had it
brisk trail
oh 😄 my bad
shadow mist
Pyre is great, though I’ve not finished it still...
brisk trail
Transistor., Laciel.
runic tartan
Still Transistor for the story/world. To date, i think it's the only game I have on multiple platforms
loud holly
Mmmm transistor looks familiar
shadow mist
I got to the title fight having never lost and couldn’t win another match ever
loud holly
I feel like I had seen it but never played it
shadow mist
Speaking of having games on multiple platforms, Cave Story is a free game so good I bought it twice
brisk trail
Pyre was released in July, but it is such a winter game
Unforgettable experience. Reminded me why I love games this much.
loud holly
Thank god for Steam and local prices
fallow holly
I love games like Hades and thought: Pyre looks cool and I get it for free with Hades? Insta buy.
Hyped to also start pyre since it looks like something I'd enjoy very much
brisk trail
Pyre is a visual novel with a magic basketball game subplot.
Minigame?
Sports/rpg/visual novel seems like a mix that should never work, but oh my, it works alright 😍
^
toxic plover
Transistor hit the spot so much for me, I was in a rough place psychologically when it came out but how bittersweet it is, plus the ambiance and the OST had me hooked, my favorite Indie game easily
Pyre was cool but Hades being closer to bastion/transistor was great
hard cedar
Pyre spoke to me the most of all SGG games.
runic tartan
yup, the bittersweet ambiance and mechanics hooked me on Transistor. I always thought it was a shame that the story was so short without any variation on replayability. Hades does fill that yearning though, just with a different ambiance
shadow mist
Do you guys think we’ll get alternate biomes at some point? Like maybe a pocket of Asphodel that’s still a meadow?
runic tartan
Maybe if they make a randomizer mode @shadow mist ; Random rooms until you beat the 3 bosses, then send you to the styx
mighty latch
bruh this game is so good wtf
brisk trail
Supergiant has proven something over and over with all of their games: They don't make bad games. Not once do they ever include something in a game that "should" be there, even if it's an aggravating problem or outright bad game design. They take good ideas, polish them to a reflective shine, and then send it out.
strange kite
Haven't played Pyre yet but everything else from them is top notch
alpine stratus
pyre is SO SO SO good pls play it one day
strange kite
Tranistor got a bit too easy at the end but it's a tiny smidge in an otherwise great game
alpine stratus
honestly pyre is my fave of all of them. even hades is like....its excellent but its not pyre!!
strange kite
Also coming from Bastion, the final boss at Transistor was a bit underwhelming
alpine stratus
should prob move to transistor channel if you wanna go more in depth there but i hear u!!
shadow mist
I want daily runs with modifiers now. Imagine: everything is boons, or start with a number of upgrades but get no more, or every boon room is a trial, or you have to buy all your items at more-common shops...
strange kite
Are the Nyx/Charon models placeholders?
brisk trail
Yes.
strange kite
Makes sense, they stand out a lot
runic tartan
huh, I did notice that they were different colors of the same outfit. makes sense if they are placeholders....they could keep one of them as is
strange kite
Can't wait for the actual ones, every single model in the game is phenomenal
Eh, they look a bit too generic
Whereas every other character has really unique characteristics
shadow mist
Given Charon's dialogue... it actually fits pretty well.
strange kite
Nyx needs a starry night veil
brisk trail
I'm sure Achilles, Orpheus, and Hypno are all getting theirs before v1.0.
runic tartan
lol agreed on Charon; the hooded figure works well for him. Kinda works for Nyx too, but two shadowy cultists is too many
strange kite
I could see Charon with a similar model but with emphasis on his job as a boatman
brisk trail
Ooh, Eurydice, too.
Like it's the exact same portrait but Popeye's hat is on top of his hood.
strange kite
give Charon an oar
void nova
@brisk trail i mean, i'd play hades on steam lol, if you still haven't found anyone to give the code to
i was gonna just keep going on the EGS, but 🤷♀️
runic tartan
Speaking of things we want. I want a metal detector to find hammers. That's my dream for a potential Daedalus keepsake
Or a magnet
shadow mist
It would have to let you get a third hammer if you keep it with you
Ooh, that's another potential daily modifier: more hammers.
void nova
daily modifier??
haughty stump
How does one use zeus' aspect effectively?
It feels so slow!
Or it's an aspect only good when fully upgraded?
brisk trail
shrewd veldt
When Zagreus said "I hate that Hydra" I felt that ✊😔
rugged wren
He becomes easier to fight if you start looking for weapon upgrades that shred armor. The heads drop quickly if you have it.
potent egret
man just finished my 10th escape! ❤️ spear FTW
somber star
Pretty sure Theseus has the power of God AND anime on his side. Considering his love of monologues.
rugged wren
It may be just me but I'm actually starting to hate the Heart-seeker Bow
inland shell
I heard the devs were collecting feedback on a particular part of the game; are they still? Also, how I do post on the feedback channel? I have been playing a lot since it finally hit steam and want to help
runic tartan
go to the bot command and follow the '?rank Early Access' form that others have used
(and mods, tell me if i shouldn't be giving that info out)
brisk trail
Check out the pinned posts in #hades-feedback
That will provide instructions and rules you need to follow to post in that room.
proud orbit
if you mean #hades-suggestions that's closed for now
brisk trail
I did not.
void nova
how late?
inland shell
Thank you guys. Why did the suggestions ch close?
proud orbit
they were collection suggestions for new hammer upgrades and they've gotten enough info for now I guess
they said they might reopen it for a different aspect of the game
inland shell
Ah I see, ill be sure to post idea the next time they ask
proud orbit
if you have any feedback now use #hades-feedback
chilly stump
Yeah the suggestions channel is something new we're trying out, where we accept suggestions on the specific topic for a few days. We'll make sure to ping that channel if we reopen it for any specific topic! 👍
inland shell
Thank you, I look forward to that. I actually spend a lot of time writing and often do I get ideas for the things I am passionate about: like game design and Hades in particular nowadays. Thanks for trying to include us 🙂
distant forge
I've been playing a lot since the last patch, Dyonisus feels lackluster most of the time 😕
There is something missing so it feels as rewarding as the other gods
inland shell
Dyonisus and Ares gets that double damage special right? And I like the poison a lot. I want to push the poison mechanics a little more though
void nova
ooh, i don't have many gems in mine
i was avoiding them until this update cuz they only offered expensive cosmetic stuff previously
inland shell
What expensive cosmetic stuff?
shadow mist
I just need that Aphrodite wall scroll, k?
odd bramble
Of course, that's why they keep offering it
rugged wren
Ugh, made it a third of the way through the end boss (phase 2) before the run ended. 
At least the Elysium fight is more manageable.
wide ferry
Hey guys ! I just saw Thanatos for the first time after 16hours of playtime, I was wondering if this was intentional or if I just was really unlucky 😉 I feel like it's maybe a bit late !
runic tartan
was the same with me; probably intentional
I'm still missing the second "others of note" after about 24 hours
lilac sun
Hey all, just arrived here. I'm hooked on Hades and have been a Supergiant fan since Bastion. I've got about 15 hours into Hades now and haven't yet made it through a run but I got close. Each time I attempt an escape it's more fun than the last! Truly a great game.
feral fiber
are the prophecies retroactive? just found out about em, but already beat the final boss multiple times with each wep
humble pulsar
Prophecies should be retroactive
so you should be able to immediately claim those rewards
feral fiber
cool thanks
humble pulsar
For some (like equip every keepsake) you'll have to go and equip every keepsake one at a time, and ones like "get every zeus boon" wont be retroactive
lyric talon
The game used to save progress in a run, but now it just boots me back to Skelly
proud orbit
there's certain conditions which makes it save or not
if you quit after you enter a chamber it saves
if you take damage and quit in the same chamber it boots you back to skelly
granite pecan
if it says “quit” then it will save. if it says “give up” then you forfeit the run as if it never happened
proud orbit
it was a crash so im just wondering if it's the same for quit/give up as it is for force closes
shadow mist
I wish there was a forfeit that keeps progression items. Sure, you can just die, but that takes time.
brisk trail
Not if you're in Asphodel and you have maxed Heightened Security, it doesn't.
feral fiber
easiest way to beat max heightened security would prob be deflect
brisk trail
Heightened Security is trap damage, though.
feral fiber
oh i thought i was the more enemies in an encounter one
mix things up all the time lol my bad*
i did that one once with athena dash and the enemies just got killed by their own projectiles
brisk trail
Yeah, that part is pretty great.
mint shuttle
especially the witches in elysium
humble pulsar
fortunately Athena has a boon which reduces trap damage which is rarely useful unless you're running Heightened Security
small glade
I'm curious how that works
Epic Athena sure footing reduces trap damage by 90%, so in normal gameplay you take 10% of the damage from a trap
But say you have 800% extra trap damage from the pact
Do you take 80% of what you would normally take, or 710%?
small glade
80 makes more sense to me
brisk trail
Epic Sure Footing is S tier with HS.
remote lily
Especially when with one heat level which increase trap damage by 400%. The gilotyne trap in Styx take over 150dmg
humble pulsar
80% reduction on total damage, so not 710%
harsh plinth
I run 800% Traps all the time cause I find it the easiest one to enable. That said in combination with the upgraded Hydra fight it gets wild, but I like it.
woeful pike
what is the black cookie with the colorful dots on it
obsidian jungle
hey guys, I have a question that is does this game have coop mode in the future?
proud orbit
No probably not
obsidian jungle
ohh thank bro
runic tartan
FML. beat the game for the first time....but in the last conversation, the power went out. It apparently didn't save that whole run
rugged wren
I came close with the shield, but I had lost two DDs to Theseus and Asterius and some health to the Temple corridors. :/
remote lily
Brown, it saves game every chamber end
So you could be fine
Or at least you will have save with pre boss fight
runic tartan
how do you see if you've completed a run?
cuz it dropped me back at the weapons chamber in Hades house
remote lily
Then it's fine. Click at the weapon you use and it shows best run time
runic tartan
nope. not fine. not there; it forgot the whole run
remote lily
Talk with Skelly
He should introduce you something if you got lucky and it saved
Then check again
undone fulcrum
if there is a coop mode,the difficulty apparently will be different
hasty forge
makes sense
runic tartan
nope. bug report time
hasty forge
speaking of reports, i have only had once issue and im sure that its my pcs fault
the game crashed once, when i used one of the other weapons
reef wadi
@undone fulcrum the people that work at supergiant games said they dont plan on adding a coop mode because they have intentions for the game to be single player only
But yeah i think the game would be much easier if coop was added
runic tartan
Second bug i've had. first one was the mouse thing; turning off mouse-lock fixed it....even if i accidentally click out of the window sometimes
grizzled escarp
Anyone find their mouse speed slows right down in Hades?
I boot it up and it feels fairly sluggish.
reef wadi
A little
But for me its around the same speed as it normally is when i am not playing hades @grizzled escarp
grizzled escarp
Okay so its not a universal thing
marble palm
How do I get to hell mode?
grizzled escarp
Has to be picked at the start of the game.
marble palm
And for the mirror upgrades, do you want to put points into olympian favor if you have god's pride maxed out?
grizzled escarp
There's ||another mode after you've beaten the game called 'heat'.|| But spoilers, so drop down a chat.
And I dont think so but im not 100%. I think they get rolled separately.
So like it rolls a 50% to make it rare, then it rolls 50% to make it epic for each boon.
But Im not 100%
Its just Ive seen streamers max both.
marble palm
And ||what are bounties for when you increase the heat level||
reef wadi
|| oh you mean with the fire skulls at the gate pretty underwhelming in my opinion ||
@marble palm the same tbh
oak knot
huh does everyone use mouse and keyboard for this game, i usually do the same but i forgot and used controller instead then kinda just went with it
reef wadi
I use mouse and keyboard
marble palm
I do... when it told me gamepad recommended I laughed in its face
marble palm
reef wadi
I didnt even know we could use it for controller until like 2 hours ago
marble palm
Probably not too bad then... it does have build in aim assist so there's that
reef wadi
Facs
oak knot
i'm too lazy to learn to use mkb again 
but yeah ranged attacks especially the bow with controller is a pain sometimes
lime kernel
Mkb for days and ho boy hades know about my shield on his face XD
runic tartan
@grizzled escarp , try de-selecting mouse-lock in settings. I think it may have something to do with if you altered your mouse's dpi. Mine slowed down about 1/10th of its normal speed
rugged wren
@oak knot I actually hate the bow for how weak it feels in some boss fights. Shields, as far as I can tell, are the bane of the bow, which is why I feel like the bow has the toughest time in Elysium.
oak knot
i have a much harder time with the railgun, the bow feels pretty good for me with Chiron aspect
it's actually my favorite weapon at first which surprised me because i rarely use ranged weapons in any game
grizzled escarp
@runic tartan Hey it worked! Thanks.
runic tartan
glad it worked for you. mouse would have been unplayable for me if reddit hadn't suggested that fix.
grizzled escarp
Yeah now I need to relearn the speed a bit but I'm so happy.
humble pulsar
Gun is definitely my favorite weapon (insert joker smash gun memes here). I love its hybrid playstyle and dependency on active movement and using your abilities in a more specific rhythm.
rustic juniper
at least with gun you can just mortar behind their shields
shadow mist
Shields are the worst thing in the game. I swear Theseus sometimes blocks attacks from behind.
vapid cairn
Hey all - quick question (not sure if this is the best place) - is progress going to carry over from EA to v1.0? Or will save files get wiped?
oak knot
i always kill Asterius first, after that Theseus doesn't seem that bad anymore, though i find a few particular god blessings are harder to dodge than the rest in Theseus fight
i figure it will keep the save, no one want their hundred hours of save file to get wiped
past field
damn
I really want to try out a run where I dont take any boons
It's not even an option rn
hasty forge
man gotta add romance into this already 10/10 game some wholesome fury death flirting for the meme would be 11/10
past field
One thing I love is the love cast with ares damage boosted
It's basically a shotgun on the early stages
long aspen
hi guys. just started recently, got stuck on theseus
would like to know what is the consensus on power the weapons
i'm having most success with bow
second favorite would be shield but i can't get past the bone snake with it
how's everyone faring?
toxic plover
Rail, shield and bow are top shelf, sword and spear bottom shelf
Being melee is hard
past field
I like sword and shield
Sword has the best exclusive weapon enchants
and the shield can block damage
which is amazing for bosses
versed lintel
Agreed, that shield is so strong, it could stop a minotaur
It's a bit finicky to use its attacks though
past field
Thats true
toxic plover
You mean the aspects or hammer upgrades?
past field
hammer
The movement speed is just a nice plus tho
Love me some movement speed
Like it's not the best tactical option except for the second boss maybe but movement speed is comfy
toxic plover
There ought to be a memey build around poseidon aspect and artemis' exit damage boon
past field
IOh that be amazing
brisk trail
Yup.
lusty wasp
i had huge trouble with the second boss once(extreme measures, or then snake oil version) using the zag aspect sword (maxed) and hermes speed boon(epic)
brisk trail
Eris, Lightning Strike, Support Fire.
lusty wasp
it was just too fast and staying on the platform was hard enough on its own
past field
Yeah
I'd love a lavawalker thing
though it woul be a bit of a waste of a boon
since it only be for one biome
odd bramble
Set it to Ludicrous Speed
past field
?
brisk trail
Sure Footing is good all the way to the final boss fight.
granite pecan
athena’s sure footing also reduces lava damage
past field
Btw
lusty wasp
but to what extend - i mean with lava damage stacking so quickly
past field
what happens when you lose against thanatos
oak knot
so lava counts as a trap?
brisk trail
It also delays damage starting.
past field
I've never lost to him
brisk trail
You don't get the Centaur Heart.
past field
Ah
oak knot
you don't get the hp upgrade if you lose to Thanatos
past field
I had an atermis run once
That was pretty dope
like cutting through butter
Gotta love crit
sterile zodiac
Hey, guys, found very precise bug in game, where should I post it?
sterile zodiac
ah, too bad it screenshots only current page.
Can i post screenshot here? It's kinda funny situation though.
night turret
use imagesharing site to do that
And with Middle management I wish to fall off the boat just to run the whole way on foot.
lusty wasp
unless you were trying to get a hunting blades run
then, even if you didnt get it so far, slicing shots just kill everything
they are stuck there with you 🙂
sterile zodiac
Well, this is what happening, when you kill last boss at the same time as he kills you: https://i.imgur.com/jVJYxsi.jpg
Oh, and after that you respawn in the House, but you can't move.
lusty wasp
imagine you two respawning together in there
sterile zodiac
That's what I call father/son bonding
past field
Hahahaha
Realised tat the spear with the achellis aspect is basically teleport
A really good dash
Or sheild bash
but without the charge
Whoa
The zip can be from anywhere
versed lintel
Quick question, what can you do with darkness in hell mode after reaching 2500 mirror max?
lusty wasp
yea thats the amazing part of playing a cast build with it - have the spear thrown out and have a great escape
throwing it out as a reaction to something never seems to let me escape anything but this is just great
past field
I palyed an atermis build recently and basically it had all that attacks
I think the game's pact of punishment is a really good mech
Like it basically promotes different playstyles
and builds
say for the one with redundant hits
you want quanity of damage not quality of damage
lusty wasp
meaning the blue hearts on enemies dont matter, yea
past field
The weapon I have the hardeest time with is te bow
lusty wasp
its a bit strict, i agree
night turret
You cant do crap with darkness in hell mode.
lusty wasp
like you have to get the attack working for any build and get used to its timings
but i really like it hitting hard in so many different builds
past field
Rn I'm doing some christmas gifting lol
Basically I'm looking for character I havent gifted to yet
versed lintel
@night turret Thank you! Now I'm just sitting here, hoping the wretched broker will have pity on my dark emo soul
past field
Positive outlook is great esp at the final boss fight
lusty wasp
thats another reason there should be a regular way to trade away darkness at the broker(and not just these small deals)
really looking for that 🙂
night turret
We will have to wait till the new update, maybe something will change about that.
past field
One of the things I've realised that is that you technically can get titan blood from gems
Just it's really god damned expensive
lol
oak knot
hey why does Thesus boss room now has a skull and a sort of leveling up symbol on it, the fight is still the same
night turret
I dunno, maybe a custom room with a free boon/shop wasn't a tell that there is a boss ahead?
oak knot
oh there is a small patch today, i guess that explains it
past field
No choice is pretty fun
It makes you have builds that you normally wouldn't
Also has anyone tried to enter chaos with very low health
I wonder what happens
night turret
Simple, you cant enter.
tall cloak
right. you don't die from it if that's what you're thinking
lusty wasp
if you are lucky you can find traps/lava whatever that can kill you and after the res you got enough to enter
full greed mode 😄
past field
Dying would be funny though ;-;
lusty wasp
but chaos would have to comment on it
rugged wren
Haha!! Cleared for the first time with Eternal Spear!
past field
Grats
hidden talon
yaaay im in the same boat dude
just cleared first and second time and came here to ask if other people find the shield as ridiculously op as i did
rugged wren
Aspect?
void nova
shield is awesome
hidden talon
dont have one yet
past field
kills the burning skulls that the boss tosses
hidden talon
like it was very fun but i only lost 1 life in the hades fight that just shouldnt happen xD
rugged wren
Would anyone like to see my final build on Spear? Or is that better off in another thread like gameplay?
hidden talon
im curious i didnt particularly enjoy the spear but wonder what boons u get to improve it
rugged wren
Got it. Sending now.
normal valley
@hidden talon Hammer upgrade to replace the spin attack with rapid jab, and then the Artemis boon that shoots arrows whenever you attack, special, or cast. Also the second aspect makes it slightly more interesting with the option to dash to it after you throw it.
rugged wren
I had that. Support Fire ramps up DPS immensely on Spear.
Plus, Armor Skewer is a must-have upgrade from a Daedalus Hammer.
past field
Has anyone gotten the louge vintage shelf?
lusty wasp
yea, why?
fresh fractal
srsly?
haughty trench
How do i progress further i always die when i reach the 3rd realm (forest area)
Any tips?
lusty wasp
it gets quite a bit harder there
do you have the ability to change keepsakes between regions?
night turret
Dont die
haughty trench
^ That's hard
night turret
But yeah game is ramping up there.
lusty wasp
because if you can switch keepsakes i would switch to one that helps with survivability when entering the 3rd area(and use whatever you want to use to help your build before)
other than that its to keep upgrading things at the mirror and getting used to the enemies there
haughty trench
So i should take keepsakes if possible?
lusty wasp
i mean using them is important to shape your run
humble pulsar
Swapping Keepsakes if you have the option to is very helpful
In general, some are better than others for Elysium, such as the Dog Collar or the Lucky Tooth for general defense.
But taking some others like the Coin Purse earlier can give you more money for the run, and you can get your defensive bonus later.
haughty trench
ok thx for info
fresh fractal
Use skellys tooth, cerberus collar or Nyx's cloak
they are very useful
you can also try using Achi's Brace if you are confident that you can avoid back attacks
tho imo Nyx's cloak is the most useful if you also happen to be using the weapon that gives you a darkness stone bonus for the present escape
hidden talon
I use keepsakes to guarantee i get a certain god or goddess until i hit the end of elysium
That's what i have found most useful
lusty wasp
i think the shawl gets less useful later in a run since you seem to encounter less darkness rewards there
but generally its nice sustain
hidden talon
And then switch to lucky tooth before i reach the styx
fresh fractal
true, another thing I STRONGLY recommend is the deflect dash boon from Athena
lusty wasp
but i agree - getting the gods you want early helps gets the most power(and if you dont need any others the coin purse for free gold)
hidden talon
Yeah that's great
fresh fractal
and if you can get hermes' triple dash boon on top of that. you will be nigh unkillable
hidden talon
Yeah it was the only boon i was missing for my shield build on my last run
Well i didnt have the added dashes either but i had evasion
fresh fractal
I had evasion as well, my first clear was thanks to Athenas deflect dash, and Herme's triple dash, evasion and runspeed increase after a dash. Managed to get all the way to the final boss without losing a death defiance and taking minimal hits.
snow gazelle
Athena's deflects are so helpful, finished my first run with some of her boons
hidden talon
yeah i picked up deflect on attacks from athena, weaken on specials from aphrodite, and knockback on dash from poseidon and i just hit stunned everything and pushed them into wall before they could get an attack off
fresh fractal
Try aphrodites cast, it's pretty much a shotgun
hidden talon
the only reason i lost a life before hades was because i forgot to pause after killing the hydra when i was joining a discord call
fresh fractal
and does ridiculous damage
hidden talon
i didnt like how slow it moved and didnt know how much damage it does
fresh fractal
btw, is there a trick to use windowed fullscreen? the ingame option doesnt seem to work
fresh fractal
For me cast depends on the weapon type, when I run Shield, I use ares' cast, pretty much throw 3 of them out in one direction, even better if they have vortex buff, and during that time I am charging up my bullrush and just bulldozing everythng
hidden talon
sometimes the game behaves like it's in borderless when it's not for me
fresh fractal
when I use bow, I Like dyo's cast, pretty much lob a toxic payload, does a lot of damage and with the buff that enemies inside the clouds take more damage and are dazed, makes the long range bow great
hidden talon
yeah i like poseidon's the best overall as a potential get-off-me move
that's good for the mobs but not for some bosses tho
poison on ur special with the bow is ridiculous tho lol
fresh fractal
it's actually pretty easy on the bosses too, if you have 3 casts and you can also upgrade the size of the cloud, you can blanket the whole field
but when I play bow, I try to get extra cast boons from chaos anyway
flat ravine
Hello
No way bro I'm crying
This game is hecking TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT
Been playin it nonstop whenever I have time off
Took me a lot of tries but I just finished my first escape babeeee
night turret
Nice.
strange kite
So I used the Artemis boon and next room was Hermes, but he had a voice line about Artemis looking for me. I guess that was intentional?
lusty wasp
yea hermes doesnt really behave like the usual gods
meaning his boons never take up your 5 basic slots and more support builds(with something speedy)
but it also means he can 'be faster' than the god you called with your keepsake and get between that - and hell comment on that sometimes
red glade
||What's the thing about orpheus' contract in the latest patch notes?
Is it relevant to my end game save or is it for early game players||
sage pawn
For my 1st rail's daedalus upgrade, which should I get:
- Infinite Ammo
- Spread Fire
- 3x Specials
I have Zeus's Attack & Artemis' Support Fire if they factor into the equation
remote moat
imo 3x special
lead to an easy win for me
since you can just keep a wall between you and the final boss
and kill him with specials
while being protected
sage pawn
Ok that sounds good
Do you get to throw all of them each time you've "reloaded", or you need to wait for them to reaccumulate after the 1st throw?
strange kite
Where is my boy Hephaestus?
night turret
Not in the Underworld, because safety regulations there suck?(For obvious reason, might I add)
hasty forge
hephaestus is technically not in either olympus or underworld, he is just IN the mountain as the saying goes
empty garden
@sage pawn , if you have Zeus on attack and support fire, infinite ammo without a doubt. It will melt everything
But probably I'm too late xD
sage pawn
@empty garden actually I haven't decided yet. Does Spread Fire triggers the Artemis's Support Fire & Zeus's shock separately on each of the 5 shots?
lusty wasp
@sage pawn no - both trigger once - poison does work tho
@brazen fjord sure i can share mine
uploading it to gofile - not sure i should post random links here publicly so ill pm you in a sec
how do i do that in here?
sage pawn
@lusty wasp that's good info, thanks
agile granite
Friendship spoilers
||When I've given stuff to skelly, he now has a heart with a lock on it|| how do I progress this
lusty wasp
he should at some point ||ask you to kill him with the sword, zagreus aspect lvl5 - if you do that the rest unlocks||
gleaming cliff
@hardy drum It´s for legendary keepsakes you get later on.
hardy drum
👍 thanks
brisk trail
Theseus is starting to annoy me. Can we delete him from the game?
mint shuttle
No I like killing him over and over
toxic plover
maybe we should fight heracles for a change eh?
brisk trail
would love some alt bosses for asphodel and elysium that's for sure
balmy mural
||on the locked hearts, how do you unlock the one for Megaera? Do I just have to wait until she asks for something?||
little hawk
will nyx potrait get an upgrad?E
toxic plover
you may have to face her ||with her sisters in extreme measures||, but I'm not 100% on it
remote moat
nyx kinda fits tbh
toxic plover
there's some dialogue that implies it being a thing
remote moat
or atleast i didnt feel it being out of place
rugged wren
Is Tartarus the only area that has multiple bosses? Because if so, that'll be a bit disappointing.
brisk trail
elysium technically has two :^)
rugged wren
I meant Boss variation
tulip ravine
The hydra phases can be a little different depending on what heads show up
but it's the same boss
lusty wasp
only tartarus usually gets these boss swaps
rugged wren
All I'm saying is that there's plenty of deep mythology to use to make new Bosses for the other two areas. I mean, I can definitely see Rhadamanthys as an alternate boss to Theseus and Asterius.
hoary sandal
every boss varies depending on random chances (Furies and Hydra) or your boons (Elysium duo)
lusty wasp
but extreme measures can change the first 3 if you chose to(supposedly all 4 soonish)
hoary sandal
but then, I dont think its bad for the game
New characters could add now keepsakes and dialouge, or a optional "training miniboss", something like that
atomic quail
Anyone know easy Pact to put on to get skellies gifts???
valid citrus
I always take the 3 heat from making the first 2 bosses harder because you shouldn't lose against them anyway.
Apart from that I would choose stuff that doesn't impact your progression and that doesn't matter if your build works, like extra regular enemies, extra trap damage, damage control if you have the right weapon
vital rapids
Is Hades' story complete or mostly complete? I bought the game nearly at launch but tbh Ive been waiting to learn if it's finished yet but I havent heard anything one wat or the other or any estimate on the level of progress made
hoary sandal
on the top left corner on gameplay it says its at v0.23923
vital rapids
So like less than a quarter?
hoary sandal
and everywhere ive looked for devs said its going to launch somewhat after July 2020
atomic quail
@valid citrus Thanks yeah i been getting better. Been playing before the pact came out and never really used it until now.
hoary sandal
the games ive played were always a little too random with their beta versions, they only meant that the game wasnt finished
valid citrus
Spending 12 Titan blood at once still hurts my feelings a little
hoary sandal
but i dunno about SuperGiant
vital rapids
Mmm. Guess I bee back to waiting.
hoary sandal
maybe they have a lot more, maybe it will be more gameplay mechanics than lore
but tbh im alredy satisfied with it
atomic quail
i know right like i am tempted just to go with my purse and just buy extra bloods or diamonds at the end of the run
hoary sandal
i mean ive spent 38 bucks on it (im brazilian) and its been really worth it untill now
most games are priced at almost 100 something and are worth 40 bucks
vital rapids
Yeah. Im sure its good as is but I usually like to make my way through a game in one go. If I play it now Idk how ill feel about going back to it again when its finished proper. As is I already have a pretty big stack of games I have yet to play that are finished right now.
hoary sandal
this was the first case it was the other way around
i see, maybe wait for idk 2 or 3 months and then come back? or play it now and go through it again in God mode to see what changed
valid citrus
But that 1.5k gold cost for blood is a bit much xD
atomic quail
oh god not having the mirror makes the game so much harder
Ahhhhhhhh God i love the story with meg and zag
static wadi
i killed Megera and got Darkness for that. But when i went up to Asphodel on a map it was shown that i had Blood. Is there something i dont understand?
flat vapor
that means you already got the titan's blood from meg for that heat level
so you just got darkness instead
atomic quail
yeah you need to do it with another weapon on the same heat or increase the heat
flat vapor
you'll know if you're getting the bounty from a boss if the map shows a ? for that biome
static wadi
what is heat?
atomic quail
the pact thing
north leaf
is there any kind of vampirism or only item that drops food from enemies?
static wadi
also trinket from Dusa
stuff from shop and room regeneration as i remeber
@atomic quail pact it was that thing u paid skulls and had game harder?
austere gazelle
Do different Aspects count for Bounties?
peak copper
Hello i have a question: is this easy or hard game? More relaxing or frustrating? 🙂
static wadi
@peak copper no relax here. Only concentration and reaction. Or death if u had none of that/
tulip ravine
It's a pretty twitchy game and depends on constant failure
atomic quail
@static wadi Yes
static wadi
@atomic quail didnt get it yet, just bought it on steam
toxic plover
It's not a chill game, but once you get in the zone it's fairly relaxing
atomic quail
@peak copper Ummm it can be an easy game but it only get easier the more you play it But it takes a long while to get everything
tulip ravine
I'm enjoying it a lot but I'm also cursing a lot as I play. Take that as you will
atomic quail
@static wadi Nice nice it has a really good story
I would say use the shield that is what i used to escape the first time
static wadi
@atomic quail of course it is. It's Supergiant game after all
peak copper
Thanks! 🙂
west glen
Hello. Just got the game recently and had a quick question. Multiple enemies disappear and reappear seemingly randomly throughout the chambers. I can't tell if this is a glitch or like a fog of war/line of sight thing. Also, during boss fights, boss' special attacks sometimes flash a transparent texture box on screen covering the area of the ability. certainly a bug.
static wadi
i played shield with reflection and upgrade for dash attack in all direction
was pretty strong
but i see it becomes weaker this version
tulip ravine
None of that sounds right. There's no los outside the screen edge. Might want to put in a ticket.
atomic quail
^
tulip ravine
iirc if you hit F10 in the game you can submit a ticket directly
atomic quail
@static wadi Try getting the Boon Hunting Blades It was a very op build when elysium Came out pretty much everyone rand it you need one of the Following Artemis boons and one of Ares.
Artemis: Deadly Strike, Deadly Flourish, Hunter Dash or Artemis' Aid
Ares: Slicing Shot
static wadi
@atomic quail eh... i have russian version so it's kinda hard to translate
atomic quail
Google the Duo boons for hades
static wadi
i will try it later)
for now i just enjoying just for playing
i want tryhard later
and i need some upgrades for mirror and trinkets first
when game says that codex was updated and you open it but you cant actually see what part of it was updated. Only thing u can see is star for updated page ONLY if you find correct list with this page. Even though game can automaticly choose this page and this star will disappear before you could see it. It's kinda wrong i think
west glen
nvm i fixed it.
hardy drum
how do I write with covered text for spoilers
I guess its not a spoiler though. Why is one Olympian boon 400 and the other 150 in the shop?
400 is guaranteed epic?
Heard of a legendary one, that might be it
static wadi
@hardy drum after you wrote anything you can use rmb and choose mark as spoiler. or use double | for that
hardy drum
sweet thanks
static wadi
@hardy drum also as i remeber expensive items are stronger.
lvl1 boon for 150 and lvl 3 for 400...
but i may be wrong i played it long time ago in old version
atomic quail
@static wadi you are right
static wadi
how does hunter dash works with a bow?
will it work even when i charge attack for a long time?
flat vapor
hunter dash works with bow, but don't aim too long or else it'll fade
the dash attack on bow is a faster charge time
flat vapor
?
flat vapor
ah i see
ah well, since it's faster you'll probably get off more damage in the long run anyway, especially with hunter dash
remote lily
well dash attack benefit from both attack and dash attack boons
so yeach
arthemis dash attack, arthemis attack ( for example_)
chaos dash attack
atomic quail
Why is everything in the shop soooo expensive!!! Also i wish the remodeling guy showed the full list of what can be changed. I really hate how the olive drapes takes up a slot
remote lily
Yeach we already suggested that the House Contractor should look like the Resource shop 😛
with like 8 lines
instead 3
atomic quail
^
tulip ravine
Contractor reminds me a bit of vendors in necrodancer, where you need to throw away resources to access the ones you're actually looking for.
atomic quail
yeah but they cost so much
i mean like it almost dosnt feel as rewarding to go on run as it use too and the shop feels like it is tied to progression of upgrading the house
I need 10 diamonds to free sysafis so that is 10 runs min
native rose
or buy em for a horrendous price
tulip ravine
Yeah It's annoying but I don't know if it's a major issue. I see the house upgrades as one of the more long term permanent upgrades.
As long as something moves forward every run or every other run the grind doesn't feel too bad for me.
atomic quail
I agree but can me make the heat rooms some of the diamonds or bloods or wine??? I feel like that would help encourage to turn up the heat.
idk that might break it though
tulip ravine
yeah I don't know what the right tweaks would be but identifying places that feel like too much of a slog is good feedback.
tranquil arrow
i think cast build is just too good with the sword
atomic quail
Yeah it is even more op with Exit Wounds
void nova
yeah the grind is too much in general i think, surprising for an SG game. luckily it's fun af
like i apparently need to have 30 more convos with megaera?
O_o
atomic quail
@void nova That i dont mind because it gives you something to look forward to when you come back
granite pecan
thats just to fill out her lore in the codex
it doesnt connect to her relationship
tulip ravine
It's the primary challenge of the genre, which is why I don't tend to play roguelikes generally. Too much progression and you trivialize the content quickly. Too little and playing feels futile. If the runs themselves remain entertaining and allow for surprises and challenge in the 1000th run then there's less need for progression to be the driving factor for desire to play.
hollow lichen
anyone knows why i can´t write in the feedback forum? i have a kinda to irreal idea that i want to share :/
umbral pine
I find aphrodites cast zues aid and athenas dash
To completely eclipse the competition
hollow lichen
sorry if this isn´t the forum to mention it u.u
flat vapor
@hollow lichen read the pins in #hades-feedback
hollow lichen
ok, thank you n.n
so...reading about the pinned messages i have a question, i have a kinda wierd idea of how the story can evolve after defeating hades but it´s not like a suggestion, is just something that i was thinking meanwhile i play the game, so anyone knows where i can post that idea?
cuz i think that on feedback maybe i´m broking a rule or something like that
is more like a personal thought :/
granite pecan
post it here if you have personal thoughts, or in spoilers
hollow lichen
ok then,thank u so much c:
void nova
@spare osprey can you break those suggestions in #hades-feedback up so we can vote on them individually?
scenic glade
Question: if I haven't beat a boss on 0 heat, and I beat him on 1 heat, do I get both rewards? or do I still have to beat him again on 0 heat to get the bounty?
potent egret
man hope we meet daedalus someday
empty garden
@scenic glade if you beat him at 1 heat, but you didn't receive the rewards for 0 heat victory you get those rewards. After that, you need to get the 1 heat rewards (simply beat the boss with 1 heat or more). And so on...
scenic glade
oh. So if I've never beat the Hydra with the sword before, and I play on 1 heat and beat him, I only get 1 diamond? and if I play again on 1 heat and win I get the second diamond?
marsh moss
Does anyone know, what do you unlock after finishing all the questline with skelly? because it said i unlocked something but i skipped it and did not see what, also i got the prophecy "earn the first of skelly's prizes" still not completed
scenic glade
the prophecy sounds like it has to do with the Pact, but idk any more than that
I assumed, due to the heart motif, that gifting nectar was how you unlocked the Secret Stashes in the keepsake locker
fossil steeple
Anyone know why I cannot post in the feedback channel?
void nova
check the pins in that channel
fossil steeple
Thank you
scenic glade
What does everyone think of the difficulty of the Three Furies? For me it's:
3) Alecto. I may have died to her once. She stands still so often that you can get a lot of hits on her, and her "chasing AoE" attack is the easiest to dodge. Just keep running.
2) Tisiphone. For some builds she's a nightmare, but for others she's a cakewalk. Inconsistently difficult, at least for me. Doesn't spawn any enemies, which is nice.
- Megaera. Her "chasing AoE" attacks are the hardest to dodge of the three, and she spawns way more enemies. Still the hardest fury, even after 40 hours.
odd bramble
I'm not trapped in her with Tiss. She's trapped in here with ME!
brisk trail
that mirrors my experience tho i haven't had any difficulties with tisiphone yet
but meg can be a hassle when i don't have any waveclear
also tanks my fps when she gets above 20ish enemies
void nova
funny, i was just thinking of asking y'all the same question
i'd agree that Alecto is the least punishing
for some reason i have it in my mind that Tisiphone is the toughest
brisk trail
i don't quite get her rage meter tho
tranquil hollow
Tisiphone is the toughest for me too but it might be because I’ve fought her the least
void nova
i feel like i almost never see Meg
tranquil hollow
I haven’t learned her series of attacks by heart yet
scenic glade
I think once you attack her enough she gets "enraged" and speeds up attacks
then she gets "perma-raged" once her health is low enough
void nova
and i feel like i recall when i've faced her more recently that her moveset has changed somehow, compared to what i was used to before. idk if that's accurate at all or if i'm just losing my mind tho lol
Meg, that is
brisk trail
yeah but she also sits still for a while and build up her rage without my being able to do anything about it
is that the low health part you're referring to? i barely pay any attention to healthbars
@void nova i've been thinking the same thing, i'll have to start a new savefile to check though
void nova
i was assuming she was just tweaked in an update, but maybe it is something about how she changes as the game progresses?
fossil steeple
All the furies are fun to fight. I do not think any of them are too challenging, so far I have mostly faced Meg and Murder (her personality really isn't that fun on the other hand) with Alecto maybe like 3 times though. At this point I have their patterns down and while you cannot fall asleep at the wheel they are not super though to fight, the right amount of challenge for a first boss I would say, they teach you to play the game and when you can you get past them consistently.
scenic glade
Yeah, I think so too
interesting that we seem to be in agreement on difficulty though
I kinda wish there was an alternate Hydra that would start showing up
besides the Pact of Punishment modifier
also would be nice if it was a character you could talk to. Big Angry Snake is kinda cool at first but I really like the dynamic of having conversations with Meg outside of battle.
covert rose
are to conversate with other characters outside of battle on that matter, like the champions of elysium, etc
scenic glade
I think the Minotaur mini-boss sort of fills that role
And Theseus is so annoying I'm glad you only meet him in a context where you get to beat him to a pulp
fossil steeple
Take that back about our lord and savior Theseus!
void nova
haha i actually like Tisiphone's "personality"
Alecto is the boring one to me
i also love some of Zag's banter with Tis
lilac sun
at some point do you start earning Titan Blood from the first boss battle again?
odd bramble
"Mmmurder?"
"No! No murder!"
lilac sun
I've had like 5 or 6 runs in a row without, just the gem
fossil steeple
I like how annoyed Zagreus is at Tis, but Tis herself is pretty boring. Alecto at least goes full ham which makes her fun. Meg is the bets one because of their relationship though.
scenic glade
@lilac sun you have to beat the final boss
or else use different weapons
you can earn the bounty once per weapon
rustic lake
meg is by far the easiest for me but i play primarily with bow - may or may not have something to do with it. although lately been doing all of my runs with extreme measures pact of punishment and getting a mix of the three together
spice chasm
meg is stupid easy she doesnt do anything except dash in a line and shoot crap
plus theres only 1 of her lol
lusty geode
hey where do you report bugs ?
brisk trail
Press F10 in-game.
lusty geode
oh right thanks
scenic glade
yeah there's only one Meg
but there's like 300 trash mobs always tripping you up
interesting suggestion in the suggestions channel for a trinket that guarantees a hammer in the first room. OP thought it might be overpowered (no pun intended).
I think if a hammer can spawn normally in the first room, then it's not OP.
I also think this would be the trinket from finding Daedalus, if/when that gets added to the game
void nova
what would the upgraded effects of the trinket be?
scenic glade
oh. huh.
good question
maybe just like
+5%/10%/15% weapon damage?
cause it's related to weapon upgrades
that's pretty boring tho
void nova
i just did a dum in my run. accepted a chaos boon that does 3 dmg for every attack, even tho i was doing an attack focused build i was like ok i can get through these chambers with just special and cast. then i remembered... i'm using bow hera aspect lolll
i had to get through 3 asphodel chambers with only vanilla special lol
scenic glade
oof
I did a real stupid once
was using Hades aspect spear
took the "flurry jab" daedalus upgrade
which removes the spin attack
void nova
oohh rip
void nova
haha well, depends on how much your build was relying on it
mine cost me a death defy sure, but.. i'm past it now, and if i can get patroclus then we're set
teal terrace
I don't think I've ever gotten anything but the 10 encounter dmg buff from him, I just can't justify passing it up
covert rose
unless you're a dumb dumb and managed to get rid of 3 of your deaths defiance, then you might consider that replenish
gaunt bane
i am constantly a dumb dumb tbh
brisk trail
You ever fatfinger a boon or hammer that either A) Breaks your run entirely (swapping out Slicing Shot on Hunting Blades) or B) Skips on the one upgrade you need to save a run?
gaunt bane
lmsnfjfn i only fatfinger virtual keyboards, luckily most gamepads are slightly big for me
brisk trail
Was mousing over boon options one time and my left thumb brushed the space bar hard enough to take the wrong thing.
It hurt.
mint shuttle
@scenic glade I prefer the hades aspect, but I'll take flurry jab if it's available though it's my favourite upgrade
lilac sun
@scenic glade thanks for the answer to my question
brisk trail
Only took a little willpower to not spam deaths with maxed Heightened Security and walking into Asphodel to get Meg's event.
brisk trail
Suicide after you see him?
granite pecan
suicide as soon as possible in a run
brisk trail
||You have to have beaten Than in the last run to get his event||
granite pecan
huh
gaunt bane
||i'm gunning for zag's bf but rng is killing me||
granite pecan
i’ve beaten him constantly since filling his heart gauge and....nothing
gaunt bane
just in case...
delicate agate
https://youtu.be/OkzlRVSeyRA
Doesn't seem intentional that it flashes so much but I think its kinda funny
void nova
it's cuz of the blade rift repeatedly hitting him i think
delicate agate
Yeah, i also had 5 dashes in a row.
alpine stratus
oh xel are u also being murdered by rng
granite pecan
the entire collective fanbase is being murdered by than rng it seems
void nova
is it just me or... are centaur hearts boring? i always feel like i wanna go for pretty much anything else
sterile peak
mint shuttle
they're hella useful, you'd be dead without one 🤔
mint shuttle
bad joke I guess :c
mint shuttle
it's also a free heal
a small amount but still
sometimes I take them for that extra juice
proud orbit
unless you're playing 0 heat with maxed out health from the mirror and cerberus's keepsake
tranquil arrow
i am playing 5-6 heat still almost never take max hp
bright dew
zeus's special upgrade that adds a lightning bolt, on the bow, does it still only proc once?
mint shuttle
per enemy maybe? I've spammed it point blank and not gotten more than one proc
tranquil arrow
unless i got the take less damage below certain percentage health boon with the heal after every combat boon
bright dew
that's what i think @mint shuttle
proud orbit
bow special only procs one lightning bolt ye
mint shuttle
which is weird
proud orbit
i guess max health becomes more useful as you increase the heat more
25 hp heal with lasting consequences
it also increases the health you get from your death defiances
bright dew
i never seen zeus cast
mint shuttle
the duo where the cast just does lightning damage if you don't pick it up is also nice
bright dew
i like zeus on rail
tranquil arrow
no its not
thats the worst duo imo
you always want to pick it up
thus it just stay at one place and doesn't deal much damage
strong heron
.....unless you have lightning rod
mint shuttle
that's what I'm talking about
strong heron
it's very good in some scenarios
mint shuttle
it's 300 damage per 1.5.
I mean if you can dislodge spam then sure..
tranquil arrow
it also has a really stupid interaction with one hermes boon
the one auto collect blood stone
proud orbit
well
mint shuttle
you don't need to get that then 🤷♀️
proud orbit
it doesn't make it bad if it's a non-bo with a single legendary boon lol
granite pecan
there's an easy solution for that. don't take those boons together
proud orbit
its not my favourite boon, but it is a good boon
granite pecan
lightning rod is rarely a boon that i will plan a build for but it is nice to have and can do some decent cherry-on-top damage
mint shuttle
without any effort either
proud orbit
it could be the worst duo boon, but that's not saying much since all the duo boons are really good
mint shuttle
I think vengeful mood is weaker. revenge attacks occur without taking damage
proud orbit
yeah
that's fair
you also reminded me of curse of longing
which is not good
the aphro/poseiden one that gives you bonus levels from poms s ounds bad too
ive never gotten it
brisk trail
Curse of Longing is cool with Empty Inside (longer Weak time) as a way to keep Privileged Status up for a very long time.
manic quarry
Question, is there something to do with darkness after maxing out the mirror? I'm worried I might end up maxing out before I get the escape prize from the prophecies?
brisk trail
Trade it to the Broker.
mint shuttle
does curse of longing spam if you also have the "Merciful End Your attacks that can Deflect immediately activate Doom effects."
proud orbit
yeah i believe so
but it's pointless since you can just reapply doom and just get the 100% damage rather than 25%
cause it reduces each time
brisk trail
Merciful End ends the Doom effect entirely.
You could let it tick down twice with Curse of Longing and triggering it with Merciful End would end it there.
mint shuttle
I think more ways to activate doom would be nice
brisk trail
I think two (with a third Revenge) is enough.
mint shuttle
do they stack?
brisk trail
No.
mint shuttle
I meant trigger the damage
proud orbit
stacking doom is another different boon
well sort of stacking
increases the damage
granite pecan
it takes a ridiculous amount of darkness to max out the mirror
brisk trail
165,000.
mint shuttle
it'd be nice if you could hit them to trigger the doom damage (and then there could be a cooldown before reapplying it)
manic quarry
Does the button mapping for the spin and throw on the spear feel backwards for anyone else? The bow feels really comfortable after bastion but the spear feels odd?
granite pecan
i've been playing constantly for a year and i am still nowhere near maxing it out
proud orbit
2500 if you play on hell kek
manic quarry
Wait how high up do the rerolls go then?
brisk trail
manic quarry
Oh never mind then
brisk trail
Last reroll is 50k.
manic quarry
Can you use it to cheat out more than two hammers?
granite pecan
nope
manic quarry
Hard capped at 2?
valid citrus
50k?...
brisk trail
Yes and yes.
valid citrus
Ouch...
manic quarry
Ah okay
valid citrus
And I thought I was progressing decently quick
granite pecan
the fated rerolls aren't that important. it's just a darkness sink
brisk trail
It took me 7+ months to get it, don't get super invested into maxing it.
elfin ferry
Yeah, I've just obtained Fated Authority lvl 8 last week after 189 runs.
mint shuttle
I'm at ~50 and I haven't unlocked my second yet
brisk trail
Almost 700.
mint shuttle
whoa
manic quarry
Does changing to a new weapon garrentee hammers or am I imagining it?
brisk trail
Probably imagining it.
elfin ferry
Well, I was specifically farming darkness to get 7 & 8. Leverage Poseidon and Chaos boons for maximum darkness gain.
brisk trail
I don't think I ever took Poseidon or Chaos boons.
elfin ferry
Yeah, you took 600+ runs...
mint shuttle
haha
elfin ferry
But, I think 8's more than enough.
mint shuttle
keys give them to you, too. If you were ever forced to take a key
elfin ferry
True enough.
mint shuttle
and then trade them in for gems when you get home, not a bad choice~
proud orbit
still praying for permanent darkness broker trade
tranquil hollow
is there a way to see what run was your first successful clear?
proud orbit
dont think it keeps history other than number of clears
mint shuttle
I just screenshot everything
proud orbit
i win lose too much to have something to screenshot
mint shuttle
haha
manic quarry
Does the game ever make it clear what counts as a distant enemy? I feel like it's about half max range of the bow or further but it would be nice to have some visual indication other than damage number, unless I'm missing something?
static wadi
hm
in old version Meg and Zag had much more talking before fight
i remeber she warned him about her sisters
and other speeches
why did they delete this
brisk trail
They didn't delete it, it's just that after enough runs you stop getting extended dialogue. Afterwards you need to fulfill certain conditions to get more conversations.
static wadi
but i already met 2nd
why does hammer is for dedal not for gefest?
olympian god-smith looks more logical not?
tranquil hollow
is there a setting to have subtitles come on after the voice line is complete? I have a bad habit of reading ahead if the words are in front of me
brisk trail
Hephaestus?
tranquil hollow
I'd rather listen but it's hard to control
static wadi
i'm not sure how does his name written in english
tranquil hollow
I know you can turn them off entirely but I'd like to be able to re-read
manic quarry
Does any one ever pick anything over hammers when offered multiple choices?
mint shuttle
I rarely even see any other choices. my eyes lock on to that hammer 👀
manic quarry
I feel like 'Chance to miss a hammer' is the real downside to the chaos that hides room rewards, so i'd be curious if the game actually picks out all hidden room rewards or only rolls for the room you pick.
Can you miss a hammer or two because chaos and lose your build entierly?
static wadi
i dont think u have a lot chances to have 2 hammers in a row or in close room
to miss them
only one
mint shuttle
what if you get the same chaos thing later too 🤔
static wadi
but it's not what i asked
manic quarry
Id still be interesting from a technical point of view to see how the game handles that boon or boons in general, does it map the whole dungeon from the start or as it goes?
mint shuttle
you can reroll and get hammer, so if it's planning ahead then it'd have to change that
static wadi
@manic quarry i dont think so. I'd rather say depends on boons you have?
mint shuttle
I think the boons are just random but more... random by design.
Like I don't think you could get 40 rooms of artemis in a row
manic quarry
Yeah it be interesting to do the maths, see where its controled and not, doing each entierly randomly wouldn't make much sense
mint shuttle
someone else commented on darkness being more common in Tartarus and it does feel that way
static wadi
as i understand legendary boons requires to have some regular boons?
mint shuttle
I believe so
static wadi
and not only legendary
i mean some boons bonuses would be useless af you dont have some previous bonuses
deep spade
boons dependant on other boons don't get offered unless you have those boons, yes
static wadi
so u have to get these first
and after u can have chance for more... complicated
so this should work for all game
i think
mint shuttle
like you get one god and then they show up more often in your run?
maybe, who knows
static wadi
not rly
deep spade
i'm also pretty sure that you're more likely to have a god show up if you already have boons from them
static wadi
but more boons from one god u have
mint shuttle
I just want athena to give me her dash and then I never wanna see her again tho
static wadi
more chances to have some boon to complete combo
deep spade
I also think you're more likely to have other gods show up that synergize with your current god in some way
mint shuttle
but I want an excuse for why my build doesn't work
static wadi
oh no 4:30 already(
deep spade
Not sure about any of this, but it's just the feeling I've gotten after playing for a while
mint shuttle
yeah I haven't played enough to see patterns
flat vapor
i know that gods you've already gotten are more likely to show up, not sure about gods that synergize
mint shuttle
maybe I'll start writing stuff down (or ask in a q'n'a)
flat vapor
i'm inclined to say no, and that most gods synergize with other gods anyway
static wadi
but there was actually synergize boons
mint shuttle
true, but is the likelihood of the synergy increasing? or is that just because you had the boons anyway
flat vapor
duo boons require boons from both gods, and since gods you've already gotten boons from are more likely to appear
static wadi
not random boons
i guess
some kinda exactly bonuses
to get this
i remeber afina and artemida
and
dionis with somebody
neet to play more
also need to sleep
manic quarry
So what's the difference between rarity and level?
Because I'm a bit unclear about what eurydice does
Rarity is how often they spawn, and level is power
static wadi
isnt it the same thing?
manic quarry
but does upgrading a boons rarity change it
proud orbit
rare level 1 is better than common level 1
manic quarry
No because Eurydicy either levels up 4 or increases the rarity
static wadi
rare will have same bonus but more %
mint shuttle
increased rarity is worth more than just 1 level up
proud orbit
also some boons can only be increased by rarity and not level
mint shuttle
I've been recently getting the last option though
don't know if that's good, though...
did finish one of my prophecies because of that (presumably)
proud orbit
if i like what i got ill take 2 rarity and if i dont ill take next 3 rarity
i dont think i've ever taken 4 levels
static wadi
if room have a skull mark
it's mean there will be armored enemies
but what about prize?
scenic glade
If you have a combo of Poseidon and Athena boons, you could call your build “Aquathena”
static wadi
spoilers)
manic quarry
sorry
hallow kettle
so curious how im suppose to get more titan blood and the gem from the hydra after beating them with all the weapons
static wadi
@hallow kettle more heat?
hallow kettle
heat?
static wadi
btw how do we get heat now?
hallow kettle
i have no idea what heat is?
hallow kettle
ah how do uu unlock the board
scenic glade
Beat the Final Boss
static wadi
i dont remeber
hallow kettle
ahh tbh thesus and the bull guy is a pain
static wadi
y
scenic glade
Yep. One more boss after them.
hallow kettle
0.0
static wadi
last version i played i unlocked it without beating last one
i used shield
with reflect bonuses
and lots of dash atack
hallow kettle
god i wish i had the reflect bounce
hallow kettle
but i upgraded my shield and now i dont have the bounce shield
static wadi
almost invincible
feral kayak
do they plan to add this to mac, or work with Geforce Now? i desperately wanna get in on the action but i only got a mac, and not enough space for boot camp
static wadi
@hallow kettle so gl in next run
feral kayak
downgrading better? xD
hallow kettle
yeah tbh after i got the upgrade to throw it and let it go by itself i miss the bounce shield
feral kayak
i mean, i love the whole challenge idea, so id probably challenge myself to beat it with no upgrades if you could downgrade
feral kayak
sounds like a good suggestion/feedback
feral kayak
i just wish i could play the game xD
static wadi
not boons
hallow kettle
i made a post in feedback if u want to vote for it
static wadi
@feral kayak whats ur problem