can you only get one hammer per run?
#h1-discussion
sterile latch
void vigil
Yes
prisma wind
Yes, just one
halcyon furnace
YES beat Meg on the 3rd run! can't wait to see where she ends up instead of in the lounge
halcyon furnace
got to room 24 that run aswell. not bad
vale kite
Youre 3 rooms away from a surprise
devout berry
Hi ! Is there any point on giving one NPC ambrosia when you have already unlock their keepsake ?
half surge
Only new dialogue
halcyon furnace
not sure. you increase their "friendship" level I suppose but dunno if they already implemented more to it
half surge
You don't get anything else from them
halcyon furnace
ah ok
sterile latch
thought it increased boon chances?
devout berry
Thnx
sterile latch
I might be wrong
half surge
Haven't heard about that
If it's true though, ping me since that is important to know 
olive jungle
It doesn't increase boon chances, no. You get more conversations and occasionally more interactions between characters
halcyon furnace
what is everyones favorite weapon?
daring ferry
I like the shield a lot
frosty mountain
mine's the sword
vital dragon
"What's the best ranged weapon in Hades?"
The Average Person: Bow, of course
Me, an intellectual: Shield, of course
sterile latch
shield was good until it got nerfed ๐ฆ
vital dragon
IDK. Shield is still plenty good. But you just gotta never left click or whatever
vital dragon
Shield Special is like having an aim bot
Hit a wall and it magically still hits something
LOL
vital dragon
Now that the shield comes back way faster, it doesn't just randomly get lost for 10 seconds when you throw it in Asphodel
frosty mountain
is it that much better now?
sterile latch
shield charge attack is pretty good too
vital dragon
IDK. I keep trying other weapons but I can only ever beat hydra with shield.
frosty mountain
you can try building for casts with shield
vital dragon
I technically build ranged with shield always
sterile latch
just get deflect on spear attack ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
vital dragon
Cast + Special spam
sterile latch
I still don't use casts
frosty mountain
casts are nutty
frosty mountain
you should try using it for Boiling Blood if anything
(=deal more dmg to enemies holding your casts)
sterile latch
maybe once I have more points for it
frosty mountain
it's real nice
sterile latch
currently focusing on dash and backstab
vital dragon
but yeah. IMO, Shield's great in the "dumbest" way possible and that's literally using it as a ranged weapon.
I've never had much success with "attacking"
frosty mountain
I love shield attack with poseidon
literally yeet fools to the other side of ashphodel with 1 hit
vital dragon
It's fun at first, until you realize that that strat just doesn't work against bosses
sterile latch
you should try some alternative playstyles though
vital dragon
so once you get to hydra, it just falls apart
vital dragon
It's kinda why taking poseidon generally "feels bad" to me
vital dragon
I do play bow for fun, but if I actually wanna finish the game/clear hydra
I tend to just stick to the tried and true
vital dragon
I think Shield is even safer than bow
sterile latch
bow is hard for me
vital dragon
But yeah. I tend to not like the melee weapons
sterile latch
doesn't snap very well
frosty mountain
sword is def the "hardest". especially if you stick with the 1-2-3 combo for dmg
sterile latch
sword was good for dash attacks
frosty mountain
but it's very fun. I love the base combo
sterile latch
but that perk isn't in the mirror anymore
frosty mountain
yeah. you can get arte dash and the hammer upgrade tho
halcyon furnace
I like the spear
vital dragon
I mean it's a single player game, so not everything has to be perfectly balanced, so it's definitely a personal preference thing
halcyon furnace
Nice range, with the aphrodite boon its great
halcyon furnace
Spear is fast, lotta range and with aphro its hella strong
vital dragon
I mean I understand that spear does that
frosty mountain
basic spear attack is really good with zeus as well
vital dragon
I just don't get why Aphro's "weakness on hit" boon is great compared to the others
The spear + zeus boon
I understand
But not Spear + Aphro
frosty mountain
high attack speed+flat dmg. very good
vital dragon
Wait does Aphro give flat damage?
vital dragon
OH. ok
I literally haven't seen Aphro in the past like 10 runs
since I keep taking the Ares trinket
LOL
halcyon furnace
Rip
sterile latch
aphro is good with sheild
vital dragon
Shield special!
halcyon furnace
Woops sorry
sterile latch
weak on Q and backstab
frosty mountain
aphro doesnt give flat.
vital dragon
With flat damage = fun
halcyon furnace
It does?
vital dragon
But I guess I prefer Ares since shield special tends to 'stay out long" and have a long cooldown between throws
bronze badger
isn't Aphro the lowest of the atk % modifiers
frosty mountain
only ares and zeus give you flat dmg
halcyon furnace
Oh. Nvm then
vital dragon
If aphro doesn't give flat then IDK about the spear thing now
vital dragon
Maybe you got like an epic variant
halcyon furnace
Yea probably
frosty mountain
I guess, aphro is nice on spear because you have big aoe. you weaken half the room with one spin
halcyon furnace
Anyways fotta go
frosty mountain
cheers mate, catch you later
bronze badger
everything just seems weak compared to bow
vital dragon
Don't worry. It's definitely not. I post SFW memes
IDK Crai, Shield seems really good to me (GRANTED YOU GET SPECIAL ARES/ZUES BOON)
If you don't, then it's just sadness
frosty mountain
and you know, it's relevant to the channel you're posting the meme
hades memes I s'pose are welcome
vital dragon
Well, we're talking about weapons
and of course it's a hades meme
perish the thought of posting non-hades memes
frosty mountain
CEASE
idk why I said that. fit with perish. whatever. yeah flat dmg sources are essential for shield throw
well, if not essential, they're certainly the best dmg boosts
I had my first spear special focused run yesterday
I won, but I struggled quite a bit. it's too slow for me
frosty mountain
I wish specials were a bit more
complimentary to your kit
rather than
you either focus on attack or special
I mean, specializing is good, but I'd like to have the option to use both seamlessly and effectively
bronze badger
I've found good shield rush builds are great for high heat runs
Basically never get hit
frosty mountain
so, do yall think we learned anything interesting in yesterday's ama?
they said it's their top priority to make a "complete run" asap
and then iterate on/introduced more systems
I found that interesting
(ofc they are always iterating but you know)
sterile latch
I dont think the complete run will be done quickly, may take a few major updates
frosty mountain
for sure
in dead cells, they released the final level and final boss pretty much on release
seems like we're gonna have those a bit sooner than that
well, maybe not the final boss
frosty mountain
yeah
vital dragon
The obvious final boss is "All the Olympians"
frosty mountain
hmm, not so sure about that
for 2 reasons. that's a lot of bosses to desing. like, a lot.
and idk if the narrative lends itself to it
I'd say cerberus is a likely final boss, at least of the underworld
really thematic, and should be emotional for zag
vital dragon
Probably. But I'm ALMOST sure that there's gonna be a twist where the olympians are tricking you or are actually bad boi/gals
Who were using you or something
Hey chat. how does one gain the roles
like Early access/hades/etc
gritty roost
Achilles/Patroclus shipping! ๐ณ๏ธโ๐
hexed smelt
@vital dragon #bot-commands is where all that fun stuff happens!
oh you uh. already did. Whoops
slender linden
maybe you're trying too fast? there's a slow mode in bot chat
thick ivy
im gonna ask a question that gets asked a million times but give it a different spin; if i bought the game now and later on it was available on steam as well, do you guys think it'd be possible to generate a key to add it to my steam account as well or would i have to buy it again
olive jungle
You would probably need to buy it again, though technically nothing official has been stated.
thick ivy
thats what i figured, but some of the games i own have keys that can be activated on the publisher's own launchers etc
slender linden
haha no problem xD
frosty mountain
hmm idk. steam does allow to run certain games you own through it
slender linden
yeah i don't think that'd be a case
frosty mountain
even if they arent on steam
slender linden
but there's possibility of launch promotion/mini sale
or just... waiting for actual sale
frosty mountain
no idea if it'll work with hades, since you originally bought it on another platform
thick ivy
๐ฉ thanks everyone, think im gonna go roll a d20 and decide whether to buy it now or wait for steam release lmao
slender linden
...d20? a simple d2/coin would work just as fine xD
thick ivy
gotta be as dramatic as possible
vital dragon
@thick ivy I'll only accept it
if you roll a 1, you gotta never buy hades
and if you roll a 20 you buy on both platforms
slender linden
that's fair
thick ivy
oh man
slender linden
ahahahah xDD
thick ivy
high stakes, but i'll do it
vital dragon
Noice
thick ivy
13 ๐
slender linden
enjoy hades then \o/
vital dragon
Nice
frosty mountain
oof
jaunty falcon
how do i start a pact of punishment
do i just add pain in the contract thing and start the game ?
frosty mountain
yes. you add "heat" to any pact and hop out the window
on the top right of your screen should be a little skull icon, displaying how much heat is allocated on your active pacts
finite zodiac
does anyone know if people who buy the game on the epic launcher will get it on steam if/when its released therE?
hexed smelt
you'll have to re-buy it as it's an entirely different storefront
finite zodiac
but it isnt going to be released there for like a year, right?
frosty mountain
yes
they said release is probably not in 2019
though it should definitelly be in 2020
they said early access will last at least a year
finite zodiac
ah cool, wurf then
frosty mountain
@little hare you probably mean keepsake on your feedback post, no?
little hare
@frosty mountain Oops, fixed it. Ty
frosty mountain
np ๐
tulip locust
I appear to have some progress reset since when I last played.
I'm trying to determine if it's from the latest patch, or if it's a bug.
I need to re-unlock Thick Skin.
oh wait
hexed smelt
i mean, thick skin is from the latest patch, so
half surge
I lose progress every time I quit the game since the last patch
tulip locust
It's the fact that I have a ton of darkness.
Every time they add or change anything from the mirror.
I just randomly have like 400-500 darkness when I boot up the game.
Wait, there are different ranks for the items you get from people?
Since when?
half surge
Since the chaos update
safe finch
Its because you got refunded from investing in a previous ability, Thick skin is new, so you got darkness to spend on it when you unlock it
tulip locust
That's what I was staring at.
slender linden
yeah its pretty nice they refund the changed stuff
tulip locust
Ooh and there's a new animation when Hades talks to you at the beginning of a run.
What ability did they drop from the mirror?
safe finch
check the patch, but it was the one where you return damage to enemies if you counter-attacked (Avenging Gain)
tulip locust
Interesting
livid cargo
prime harness
does make sword kinda feel bad atm imo
avenging gain rly helped out alot for the sword i feel
brisk trail
https://twitter.com/SupergiantGames/status/1086683270140518400 WHATS BEHIND THE CURTAINS
safe finch
The best a man can get
hexed smelt
a truly incredible reward that's too good to be revealed in a spoiler-free channel ;P
brisk trail
@hexed smelt Ohhh imma go check
reef oracle
@stable plinth @humble pollen I did it!!!!!! I beat Meg!!!
reef oracle
It truly is they gave me some advice and it all worked out
sick tree
๐ -You'll get the hang of it~
She's a fair amount easier than she used to be but she's still a tough cookie so congrats!
reef oracle
yea, thank you!!
sick tree
Was any particular part giving yo trouble?
The swarm of goons she summons or the crazy projectile spray attack?
reef oracle
only thing that had messed me up
was the timing of her dashes I kept getting caught by them
the mobs or projectile werent a problem with me as they are slow and when she is gonna fire her projectiles it is pretty telegraphed
sick tree
hmm ๐
wheat coral
Woah, spoilers in patch notes!
winged relic
I think they need to buff mega gorgon
wheat coral
Unlockables are attackable?
winged relic
omni directional attacks or something
or her attacks following you until they pass your character
prisma wind
No, I think it means that Skelly's reaction to you attacking the covered objects used to spoil what they were
wild escarp
I can't seem to be able to open the codex, is it locked until some achievement or something?
prisma wind
You have to be given it first, make sure you talk to everyone in the House of Hades between each run 
slender linden
yes, that
hexed smelt
it's given to you by achilles after a few completed runs, to be specific
wild escarp
Weird I talked to him 4-5 times already
slender linden
save some surprise
wild escarp
Alright alright I'll look into that thanks ๐
hexed smelt
it's a common issue that he doesn't give it right away, just keep trying
prisma wind
Yeah, I didn't want to get too specific to let them discover it themselves ๐
hexed smelt
look, when we've consistently had people having issues getting the codex, to the point where it had to be addressed in a patch and it's still an issue, i think that warrants a little more specific-ness
slender linden
also, completed attempts, not runs
prisma wind
Fair enough
prisma wind
You don't have to win to get the codex, if you're wondering about that
slender linden
that's to be even more specific with the wording
wild escarp
Ok I got the codex ty guys
hexed smelt
๐
slender linden
nice
thick ivy
achilles reads this discord server ๐ฑ
slender linden
the codex has discord function ๐ฑ
sick tree
Huh?
hexed smelt
bah. i'm trying to write up the wiki page for the pact of punishment and i can't decide what to call the.......... things. on it. they're not abilities, they're just stuff-that-makes-your-life-harder but i can't use that
slender linden
debuffs?
hexed smelt
that works
slender linden
or hindrances
devout berry
The game was already very good and it improved significantly with the first major update. I am very satisfied that the main focus was quality and not quantity with more levels etc. I think we will witness great things the next months
signal spoke
Contract maybe
hexed smelt
hmmm. i think conditions might be best? i've checked the patch notes but there's nothing in there to suggest what sgg are calling them
sick tree
yeah, contracts
hexed smelt
it's just one contract, though
prisma wind
I think Pacts makes the most sense since in-game they're called the Pact(s?) of Punishment
I don't think debuff is right, since it's not debuffing you, it's buffing the foes
fiery pebble
I mean it is also debuffing you
prisma wind
Hmmm, I guess you are right, some of them are debuffs
hexed smelt
think i'll go w/ conditions, i like the wordplay of, like....... a contract having terms and conditions and whatnot
and i'm the one doing the wiki page so i get to decide what the wiki calls it :'D
prisma wind
Such power!
hexed smelt
someone refresh my memory - it's 10 keys to unlock the pact, yeah?
sick tree
Ja
fiery pebble
Aye
hexed smelt
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reef oracle
hell yea beat her 2 in a row now
grand crystal
is the last pact reward just have it maxed
sick tree
Well done~
hexed smelt
i think the max heat you can have enabled right now is 150, and the last reward is for 120, so you have a little wiggle room?
silk sapphire
i think the triple shot on the bow needs a little nerf
reef oracle
does anyone have any tips for in asphodel when you get on the moving encounter room?
i keep getting overwhelmed and dying there
silk sapphire
try to predict the bomb throws and take out the shielder first
having 3 dashes helps out a lot
hexed smelt
take out the explodey urns first
hexed smelt
they're a lot less useful than it seems and you don't need the extra hassle
reef oracle
alright thank you
silk sapphire
im playing for the first time since all the updates
and artemis even with all the nerfs is really strong with triple shot bow
tepid yacht
re: patch notes i can't believe skelly would do this
echo wolf
btw the patch notes on the discord are a bit off, it says the perfect shot dedalus hammer upgrade for the bow was buffed, when it was nerfed
reef oracle
sniper shot steady shot or point blank shot?
echo wolf
perfect shot
silk sapphire
the bow is the best weapon imo
echo wolf
most bow upgrades are pretty bad tbh, even with the nerf, perfect shot and triple shot are still the only good ones
echo wolf
btw how does the hunter dash work now? i thought it was 100% extra damage at common level 1
echo wolf
than that needs to be fixed, i just got an epic one with 205% damage, and it still only deals double damage
humble pollen
Just saw your message @reef oracle congrats!
reef oracle
Aye thank you!!! @humble pollen
fiery pebble
Perfect shot was nerfed, yes
Oddly enough, so was sniper shot, except its tooltip in the buff bar still says the old 200%
reef oracle
holy mother of god
meg is so damn easy now
now its just asphodel that is destroying me
grand crystal
oh thats nice, hades got a page in the gameinformer
reef oracle
tfw when you get on epic Clean Kill and have no crit boons
hexed smelt
i take it you had hunter's dash?
grand crystal
sice clean kill is lvl 2
hexed smelt
maybe i should have reported that as a bug at the time instead of leaving it as feedback :/
grand crystal
and dash is lvl 1
hexed smelt
yeah but you shouldn't be able to get a boon that affects critical damage when you haven't got a boon that lets you do crit damage to begin with
similar to how, with ares, if you haven't got slicing shot (cast creates blade rifts), you can't get hungry blades (cast rifts are homing) even if you have one of the other tier 1 boons
or how aphrodite won't give you a boon that enhances the weak effect if you don't have one of her boons that allows inflicting weak to begin with
and so on and so forth
reef oracle
ah sorry didnt see the chat yes I had hunter's dash
hexed smelt
aye, that'd do it, they left it in as a prereq even though it's not affected by it
reef oracle
yuppp
sick tree
sigh So, to see what's under those curtain things in the courtyard, you have to use 15 heat and complete a run?
Has anyone actually done that yet and found out what it gets you?
hexed smelt
yes, but not in this channel they haven't!
thick sphinx
the 15 heat one really isn't a hassle at all
sick tree
I have a theory and I'm not sure it's worth it since I have enough difficulty beating the game without using the PoP at all
Could someoene tell me? in the spoilers area or PM if you don't wanna spoil it for other people who have a better chance than I?
thick sphinx
Sure
sick tree
Thanks~
Going back to vanilla difficulty now~
Damn it SGG... you were doing so well...
๐
queen mist
How many bosses/acts will there be in the final version
I cant remember if that was released
hexed smelt
they haven't said yet
reef oracle
jesus this is my 5th time beating meg lmao
reef oracle
nope
sick tree
good luck~
reef oracle
keep dying on the moving platform encounter
thick sphinx
The afterlives in greek myths are Tartarus, Asphodel, The Mourning Fields and Elysium, Reaching Elysium 3 times sent you to The Isles of the Blessed. So probably not more than those
sick tree
Screw that platform thing
Went from 125 health to 12 because there were so many voidstones stopping me from killing anything
reef oracle
i get completely destroyed there lmao
thick sphinx
The murderboat you mean
reef oracle
hahahah yes
sick tree
@thick sphinx - Yes, the murder boat... T_T
reef oracle
I feel bad for the fellow that gets the no hit room on the murderboat
i sure hope i dont get it
thick sphinx
Lure everything to one side, triple dash through them and hurt the blue stones, rinse repeat
fickle karma
pretty sure that doesn't happen, Cuban
reef oracle
oh does it not?
thick sphinx
@reef oracle check for boss rooms, it's usually the 2nd boss room in asphodel ๐
hexed smelt
does anyone else feel like the murderboat is still guaranteed to be the first elite room you see in asphodel? i kinda wish it was a little more random
fickle karma
don't think it would, since murderboat is a set encounter
thick sphinx
and yes you can't get no-hit or timer-room on the boat, its a special encounter in itself
To me murderboat is always second
reef oracle
Not sure
sick tree
I think Hades could do with more AOE and crowd control attacks,
I mean, there's stuff like the swords special and a few boons/upgrades but they're pretty rare and not nearly as useful as, for example: the mortar in Bastion
I really hope they add some upgrade that allows you to use bombs, like the skeletons
thick sphinx
Deflect them ๐
Zeus is pretty AoE oriented
Spear and sword hits more at the same time
sick tree
Perhaps add Hephaestus and have his boons relate to explosives?
He's associated with fire and metal working so him giving you bombs makes sense to me
sick tree
Spear with the exploding end upgrade does a decent job but still not really want
@thick sphinx - true, but how exactly do you represent that as a set of boons?,
You don't strictly speaking "forge" bombs but they're crafted from metal, typically, and can be seen as showing his fire association as well
fiery pebble
Im not sure bombs fit, but fire, sure
thick sphinx
Fire and metal doesnt = a bomb
and zagreus using bombs just doesnt fit him at all if you ask me
sick tree
You could just have his attacks burn the targets but I think that's a little dull and not distinct enough
thick sphinx
how you represent a blacksmith via boons? The Daedalus hammer seems to be a good start
reef oracle
huh just made it past the murderboat for the first time
seems like today is a really good day for me
sick tree
how would that work for Hephaestus' boons though?
The hammer is its own thing
thick sphinx
We dont know what hephaestus will be yet
but you're insistent on making it bombs which doesnt fit
brisk trail
Hello guys! Little question! I donโt know if anyone could help me, I was gonna buy Hades but I see the price is different, it went down from 19.99 to 9.99, is there any impactful reason for this? Like do I have to buy the updates/expansions separately now or something?
๐ค
olive jungle
Epic implemented regional pricing!
Updates are still free once you buy the game, of course, that's part of the promise of early access.
brisk trail
Ooh so itโs just because of my region then?
olive jungle
Yep!
brisk trail
Alright, thank you very much
radiant zephyr
Did we get confirmation for Hephaestus, or were we just hypothesizing?
radiant zephyr
I thought it had a z. XD
Is there a way to check your times/heat counts for your previous runs? I saw a debate earlier about killing the hydra with 15 heat, and I think I might have done that already...
hexed smelt
i'm british, let me live
radiant zephyr
XD No problem.
I finished the 15 heat the btw, got the thing under the curtain. Next one is 60 heat, which will take plenty more time. It's.... Not what I expected. Not what Zag expected. XD
solemn echo
hey, just noticed that i was given the ability to choose the boon that increases crit damage without having any boons that grant crit. (I had artemis dash, but that no longer grants crit anyway) i took it thinking that the dash dmg may still count as crit for some reason but i was wrong
prisma wind
Yeah, hopefully they fix it. In the meantime, feedback on this issue already exists, feel free to give a ๐ here https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/525022184280948736/536190884635738177
solemn echo
oh ok ill do that thanks
hasty loom
Just wanna point out as my opening post on this server that just because the Chaos update didn't add Eris doesn't mean she's out of the picture. Also hello!
olive jungle
Hi there, welcome to the server!
barren bluff
hi everyone. i missed the first major update to hades.. cause i was at work in a hotel and i cant play
downloading it now! cant wait to get back into hades
o.o7
olive jungle
trim lake
I know the supergiant lads probably wont see this, but I just wanted to say that I love all of their games and Hades is by far my favourite. It's so much fun and i'm going to be eye-ing this discord like a hawk to see how its all going
alpine stratus
super giantt patch
night turret
More like "Wait a few months to get that patch"
alpine stratus
"PHEW we FINISHED ELSYSIUM i thought i would DIE" patch
night turret
and then we get a "Oh no the pots are flying again patch"
hollow pumice
Supergiant major content it is
sick tree
doubt it but I am curious how they'll handle it once there is content after that boss fight,
considering there's stuff that only unlocks once you finish a run,
which will become harder and harder as they move the goal post further and further away
alpine stratus
my wild guess is that the next major patch wont have further than hydra either
hollow pumice
๐
alpine stratus
i mean, it took a year to make tartarus and asphodel
so lets say it takes roughly 6 mopnths?
to make a new area
hollow pumice
Fair enough
sick tree
I assume they'll just change the requirement from "reach the end" to "beat the Hydra" once those two things become separate but it's still an odd situation to be in
alpine stratus
patch notes:
-be good to the ladies!
orchid nest
adding the pact system now is pretty smart honestly
night turret
It HAD to be in this patch
sick tree
Do you actually think the Hydra will be the last boss of Asphodel?
It makes sense, if the Megagorgon serves as the mini boss, like the skeleton twins in Tartarus, and the hydra as the proper boss
But I wouldn't be totally surprised if they made Asphodel significantly larger than Tartarus, and have us face one of the furies at the end of each major area
I kinda hope we get out of Asphodel soon, because I'm sick of dealing with the lava but I don't really know
night turret
Furies are coll, buuut it will become kinda stale just beating a variation of Meg, WITH SO MUCH CHOICE OF AMAZING MONSTERS, HEROES AND GODS AT OUR DISPOSAL
orchid nest
the lava is fine, the open space is not
wizards and gorgons are such a drag
witches rather
sick tree
I'm sure they could find a way to make the remaining two furies feel distinct and exciting in their own right, if that's what they have planned
but it seems very odd to me that they'd feature one but not the other two, especially considering they have been meantioned
Maybe we'll face the remaining two or all three at once, some time?
tepid wedge
has anyone killed Meg on a new save slot on first run?
sick tree
I think so
tepid wedge
i can't even get to her ๐คฆ
night turret
I got my fill of Ornstein and Smough already, 3 furies will be a drag >_>
There some screen shots of beating meg before the lounge opens in spoiler channel
tepid wedge
when does the lounge open?
night turret
not really that deep in
sick tree
@tepid wedge - Are you new to the game or on your second save slot?
tepid wedge
second
I killed the final boss a few times already
sick tree
cool
tepid wedge
but im terrible with sword
plain plinth
I like the sword with the fast attack upgrade best coz i just... swooshwooshwoosh
hexed smelt
i think it opens after your fourth attempt
i beat her on my third, made it most of the way through asphodel, and then when i got back the lounge wasn't open
tepid wedge
is the dialogue different too, or just the location?
hexed smelt
just the location!
tepid wedge
then I just give up, lol
hexed smelt
if it helps, i managed it on the third by unlocking the bow and using that
i'd have gotten her on the second since i had a crazy good zeus cast (and i'd used my darkness on more ammo) but i am Bad at dodging the circle attacks w/ only one dash
worn gale
how old do you guys think Zag is?
ashen aurora
physically, like 24
ashen aurora
eh, something in the 20s
he's still impulsive
but his body is mature, and so is his language and rhetoric
hexed smelt
mentally, mid-20s, physically who the hell knows bc gods presumably don't age the way mortals do
alpine stratus
i think early twenties, 19 at absolute YOUNGEST. Old enough to be an adult but young enough that afultier adults still think they can boss him round.
worn gale
i've gotta say, i really evy those abs
cedar hinge
escaping from hell is a great workout regiment
sick tree
So, I've touched on this subject a few times but I figured I'll just ask outright because I'm really curious how it would work:
Operating on the assumption that SGG does intend to include all 12 Olympians in the final game (I don't think they ever implicitly stated they'd do all of them but it would be a shame to leave some out)
What would the unique effect of their boons be?
Honestly, if they decide not to include all of them, it'll probably be mostly down to the fact it's really hard to come up with 12 sets of boons that are:
thematically appropriate for the God in question, clearly distinct from one another and mechanically balanced
I'd argue they're already struggling with the second of those criteria since Zeus and Ares' effects both boil down to just "do more damage" albeit in slightly different ways since one only effects the primary target were as the other can effect enemies standing near them instead
But still, I'm asking hypothetically
The remaining Olympians are:
Hera, Queen of the Gods, Goddess of family and the home
Demeter, Goddess of nature and the harvest
Apollo, God of the sun and music
Hephaestus, God of fire and metal-working
Hermes, Messenger of the Gods
and finally: Dionysus, God of Wine and madness
I've chosen to quietly ignore Hestia because she's boring
XD
frosty mountain
dionysus isn't in the greek pantheon according to more popular versions of myth
hestia should be in his place, goddess of home and family
sick tree
it varies, he replaced Hestia in later myths
so it's one or the other
frosty mountain
we kinda had this discussion earlier in the gameplay channel. I agree it'll be hard to find boons for all 12
flint gust
Except dionysus' status as the drunkard god gives him aesthetic appeal and its unlikely he'd be replaced
sick tree
I just picked Dionysus because I think you could do more with him
frosty mountain
there are also versions of myth where dionysus is actually a reincarnation of zagreus ^^
pale coral
Demeter- health bonuses, drops?
Hephaestus- Fire damage/introduce player-controlled burning status on enemies?
Hermes- speed related, of course/maybe also included charge speed/special recovery?
flint gust
Dionysos - slows?
frosty mountain
If they can't come up with boons for every god, I'd like to see some other system maybe related to the ones left out
sick tree
I was thinking Hermes should slow enemies rather than speed you up?
It doesn't make as much sense but would work better mechanically
flint gust
Some sort of self-buff mechanic that isnt exactly crit or deflect?
sick tree
I think Dionysuus should have a % chance of temporarily turning an enemy to your side
pale coral
That makes sense, though I really would like to be able to recover faster from the special animations, and Hermes would provide a good excuse
flint gust
We already have charm tho dont we
frosty mountain
like, apollo, being connected to prophesies, could be connected to some prophesy system.
flint gust
As in not being directly combat useful but giving you info or control over the random drops?
frosty mountain
oh idk. maybe a predirmined modifier to your run? no idea how the system would be implemented
my point is, it doesn't need to be boons
with all 12
it'd be nice for consistency tho
pale coral
Maybe Apollo could let you "re-roll" your base boons or the rewards of the run area (Tartarus, Asphodel, whatever comes next)
flint gust
It would, and I don't think its beyond SGG's design team tbh
frosty mountain
who knows. I mean, apollo is also related to music and the sun
flint gust
Rhytmic clicks for damage
frosty mountain
eeh
flint gust
Like power shot but zippier
frosty mountain
too gimicky maybe
sick tree
Well, I'm surprised Hermes isn't already in the game honestly,
He's one of the very few Gods who is permitted to enter and leave the underworld at will, to deliver messages
so I wouldn't mind him just showing up in the house once in a while,
Trying to remain neutral so he doesn't get locked out by Hades
worn gale
well Apollo would be some sort of fire damage \ hepheaestus meyabe weapon upgrades something like deadelus hammer but better in some sense \ hermes faster wapon attack and dash speed
frosty mountain
yeah, that'd be interesting
worn gale
Dionysus can maybe turn enemies on your side
flint gust
Or some sort of combo mechanic where focusing on one single enemy to the exclusion of all others gives more damage or smth
worn gale
madness and all that
flint gust
Let them do friendly fire, its enough
worn gale
there's no shortage of ideas mate
flint gust
Its just deciding which ones arent garbage thats the problem xD
sick tree
Mind you, Aphrodite's legendary does that already so maybe not?
They could change it but meh
worn gale
demeter can maybe slow enemies down, being pulled by vines or what not
safe finch
Hermes's 'gifts' could be random through out the run.
Some kind of drop or trinket, which is not specific delivered, but could be found or obtained through a challenge.
Sorta like him going through Hell a drop them throughout
frosty mountain
yeah but this shouldn't really detract from avaliable design space. if "friendly fire" is a strong enough theme and a fun enough mechanic, I'd think they'd remake the aphro legendary instead of shying away from the idea
sick tree
Yeah, just pointing that out to anyone who didn't know what her legendary was
frosty mountain
oh sure
I'm just saying, we shouldn't feel limited by current designs on our speculation :p
everything is subject to change after all
flint gust
Dunno, god of wine still seems more slow-oriented to me
worn gale
wine -> drunkness -> madness
frosty mountain
would that be fun as a core mechanic of a boon tho?
doesnt sound very exciting to me
sick tree
I agree although the name of that legendary made me laugh so I'd miss it even though I think the mechanic would suit Dionysus better
frosty mountain
I guess, weak isn't all that interesting either, by that logic
oh yeah, "unhealthy fixation"
flint gust
Exactly - its a base mechanic
Poseidon has knockback
Big deal
Until you get the damage mod for wall slams
sick tree
I know Demeter is more associated with flora, rather than fauna
but I'd like to see a boon with a % chance of summoning a little creature to fight by your side for a bit
It would be somewhat similar to the "turn enemy to your side" boon
but Bastion did both so meh
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frosty mountain
frosty briar
A BOON FROM PAN
frosty mountain
from who
alpine stratus
someone: hey zag whats ur orientation
zag: im pan
pan: no, im pan
zag: he always does this
sick tree
Heavily influenced classical depictions of the Christian devil
because goats are evil I guess?
tulip lava
goats are sweet rascals
frosty mountain
goat is sort of the satan animal no?
tulip lava
associated with evil through no fault of their own
they are just nice little creatures who will eat everything you love
frosty mountain
sick tree
Religion is just weird like that sometimes but let's keep the discussion firmly rooted the ancient ones alright? XD
frosty mountain
haha yeah
sick tree
*rooted to
arctic cave
Plus Hermes is a known Psychopomp
arctic cave
I think goats get a bad rap because of the pupils
tulip lava
it just changes their names
arctic cave
Rectangular is weird
sick tree
Would there be any real benefit to being able to lock down the layout, like in Rogue Legacy?
tulip lava
i mean not as much as the change in the game..
ancient elk
Oyeah, aesthetics dlc not gameplay
tulip lava
i think seeded runs would be nice
sick tree
Have Hermes do that when he visits the house to deliver messages instead of giving you boons?
Or have someone else entirely do it for you?
sick tree
AAAH!! - I'm sooo close!!
Zeus - Lightning strike (damage to nearby target)
Poseidon - Knock-back
Artemis - Critical hit
Aphrodite - Weakening (reduced enemy damage)
Athena - Deflection
Ares - curse (damage to primary target)
Hera - Weakening (reduces defence)?
Demeter -x% chance of summoning friendly creature to assist for x seconds???
Apollo - Blinding light (reduces enemy speed or messes with their path finding)?
Hephaestus -Burning (damage over x seconds) - kinda boring but fine
Hermes - increased attack speed, reduced recovery time or increased AOE???
Dionysus - x% chance of turning target to your side for x seconds
arctic cave
Isn't Dionysus's already Aphrodite's legendary?
sick tree
What say you mortals of the surface world?
arctic cave
Hermes I'd have attached to movement
sick tree
Yeah, I mentioned that earlier but it suits him well
safe finch
Apollo could also be poison related, since he dabbles in plague aswell
ancient elk
Apollo would b cool as sun stuff I think
sick tree
Wouldn't poison be too similar to burning?, unless you do it slightly diferently, like Ares and Zeus
safe finch
We talked abit about it, but having some kind of health in-game that is some kind constant would break the game
arctic cave
Maybe a shield ability? You get x bonus 'health' per room?
For Heffy
It's not real health and it gets refreshed every room
safe finch
You already get health from, Mirror, Keepsakes and drops.
arctic cave
Alright, so, shield would build up a to a max amount.
tepid orchid
I would like to point out that the current gods sort of have two things going on, mostly
arctic cave
It would take 50% of the damage you take
sick tree
I deliberately avoided anything that increases your health
arctic cave
And you lose it between rooms
tepid orchid
Artemis is crits AND cast synergy, Ares is curse AND blade rifts, Posiedan is knockback AND resource gain, etc
arctic cave
Each boon causes that kind of attack to give you shield
ancient elk
There's already a boon with a shield in the game
sick tree
@tepid orchid -It's hard enough as it is, do you have to make it more complicated? XD
I'll worry about that later
tepid orchid
Oh, yeah, no issue with what you're doing
Just saying that if you're not able to narrow it down between two things, you don't have to choose :3
sick tree
Good hahaha! ๐
Okay, so a shield of some kind could work if it functioned like Athena's deflection ability
but it would have to be supplemented with another subtle effect to make the God in question equally viable
That might suit Hera, given her connection to protection
I suggested that Hephaestus should allow you to use explosives, like the skeletons but a fair few people didn't like the idea
But, considering what @tepid orchid said about some Gods having multiple effects for their boons
Perhaps Heph (can't be bothered to type out his whole name anymore) could cause burn with some boons and explossions with others?
safe finch
Remember there seems to be spaces for 2 more weapons, so maybe powers are easier to incorporate once its been shown
frosty briar
Kinda cool of Hepheastus could set up traps or turrets
to tap into his engineering side
sick tree
Just hypothosising about how the rest of the Olympians will be integrated
ancient elk
Heph is about fire and forges so it'd be pretty cool if about what @frosty mountain said where some gods didn't have boons but instead helped in other ways where you can find Heph like you find Sisyphus and you can upgrade your weapon for that run only using darkness or something
safe finch
Yeah I know
Im just trying to think what other weapons could be added and what style/move set they would have
frosty mountain
now that's an interesting conversation
reef oracle
I swear to god I hate the megagorgon
ancient elk
I've said this a lot before, but I'm still waiting on my baby the grimoire to be added
sick tree
But the hammer already does that
frosty mountain
we've had it a million times, yet I'm always excited to discuss potential weapons
reef oracle
scythe plss
safe finch
Well a double-side Axe
safe finch
Wow keep it too spoilers mate
ancient elk
Nooo the hammer is like a boon, Heph could be like, upgraded weapons so the sword becomes a longsword, the bow a crossbow, the spear a trident, the shield a big ol shield which each has new attacks and is slightly stronger idk
frosty mountain
hold up pardner
we gotta keep some of that flavour before we make crossbows and longswords
ancient elk
Oyeah
jaunty falcon
axe and hammer plz
sick tree
Besides, Only Hermes is even allowed into the underworld
I did suggest he might show up in the house from time to time, but not give you boons, so Hades doesn't lock him out
But I'd like to see them all give boons unless they have a very good reason not to
frosty mountain
yeah kinda
it'll be hard to do 12 sets of boons without niche and design overlap
like how ares/zeus are both just dmg
sick tree
True, but this is hypothetical anyway
As for weapons:
Scythe certainly would be nice
reef oracle
ik we have shield but a sword and shield would be cool
sullen lake
I'll have to second the idea of Scythe.
reef oracle
have like counter attack mechanic behind it
sick tree
I spoke about the risk of over lap earlier and made a list of possible effects for all 12
frosty mountain
yeah, I remember you did
maybe overlap isn't that bad as long as it's mehcanically different
kinda how ares and zeus are actually quite different
one favours spam the other favours poke
ancient elk
It'd be cool if the sword had like a block button where you can clash with an enemy
safe finch
Okay what about this, hear me out!
Hermes shoes as weapons
Like a speed kicking melee weapon!
frosty mountain
hayabusa boots intensifies
jaunty falcon
u mean parry @ancient elk
jaunty falcon
game would become too ez i think
frosty mountain
or to keep it greek: leonidas' sandal (you know the this is sparta thing)
ancient elk
1 sec
reef oracle
all about the spartan sandals
frosty mountain
@ cuban hell yes
ancient elk
frosty mountain
isn't that athena's divine strike tho ๐ค
it's not very streamlined, but it fits the bill kaf
sick tree
In my list, Aphrodite and Hera do similar things but they contrast
Demeter and Dionysus do similar things but in different ways, like Zeus and Ares
but no other over-lap, really
reef oracle
sword and spear would be a nice way to introduce parrying
thick sphinx
Not a fan of getting more of what we already have
ancient elk
Truue my b
jaunty falcon
parrying would game so ez
thick sphinx
and what do we need parry for when theres deflect and stuns?
frosty mountain
spear and shield is the most iconic greek weapon combo I think
ancient elk
Bosses lmao
ancient elk
I think they should add being able to have no weapon, but it lets you pick up and throw pots at enemies
reef oracle
I dont think itd make the game ez
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frosty mountain
apollo is definitely greek
jaunty falcon
helios is in greek mythology
reef oracle
the parrying mechanic does walk a fine line between op and useless
but itd be nice imo
ancient elk
Icathios you not adding the knife until the edit made it seem like she pulled it out and so much more scary loool
thick sphinx
Still, if we get spear and shield then why not sword and shield? and then we get a new weapon and why doesnt that have a shield aswell? Doesnt work imo.
sick tree
Well, you could achieve the same effect as no-weapon by giving him a pair of gauntlets to punch people with - I'd like that
ancient elk
How about instead your weapon is a dustpan and brush and you clean up after yourself after throwing pots
sick tree
Helios is a titan, Apollo replaced him
reef oracle
because it would be two different playstyles???
hoary ore
Will this come out on Steam or GOG sometimes?
frosty mountain
apollo is in the dodecatheon.
ancient elk
Once it's out of early access I think
sullen lake
Yes.
frosty mountain
steam on release early 2020@ talvi
sullen lake
Next year sometime I assume.
jaunty falcon
Helios or Apollo would introduce blinding mechanic for sure
ancient elk
@hoary ore if you're interested in getting it, the epic launcher isn't that bad! they even offer 2 free games a month
I was apprehensive at first
unkempt storm
I even said I wouldn't buy it and just wait.. but then I caved.
wispy sapphire
I am o with Epic too, no problems so far
ancient elk
I caved simply because sgg tbh
hoary ore
I just done want another launcher on my hands, I think I will get it eventually since its probably cheaper and I get to play it now and not next year.
frosty mountain
the best thing about the epic store, is it gives a greater portion of the $$ to the devs, compared to steam
wispy sapphire
also Early access totally worth it - I have sunk 80+ hours in the game and still not remotely bored
I mean, tons of full releases I play less than this
unkempt storm
I am a little apprehensive about getting burnout like a year before the game is even out
sullen lake
Same here. I'm trying to pace self.
wispy sapphire
for me, every release I just do the new things and stop playing until next
but these bloody statues will take forever ๐
ancient elk
I'm good at 80 heat atm, I've not won above that
jaunty falcon
shld have been costumes that give bonuses with a downside
frosty mountain
maybe in the form of like "cursed" keepsakes
ancient elk
steals meg's clothes from her room upside: you feel great downside: meg is hunting you all run
wispy sapphire
@ancient elk what do you find easier heat investments?
hoary ore
I just dont want to miss out on the Dead Cells experience, playing that game from early stages to release is like getting to play 3 different games.
frosty mountain
shape your run by adding an advantage and a disadvantage
that's an experience in its own though tal. I tottally see your point tho
I like watching a game evolve so I really enjoyed the EA of dead cells
ancient elk
@wispy sapphire imo, +500% damage from enemies and little darkness
the +500% forces you to take less damage and if you do it's over fast lol
the little darkness is the easiest of all as you can still opt to have 3 dashes, 3 casts and 1 death defy
That adds up to 80 btw
frosty mountain
also they're trying to do some interesting narrative stuff with hades
ancient elk
Tbh I wish you could have 0 darkness
frosty mountain
and how the plot will sort of be realesd in "episodes"
wispy sapphire
@ancient elk how do you not get one-shot in asphodel lol
sullen lake
Yeah. I haven't seen this sort of recursive narrative very often. It's actually one of the biggest draws for me to play the game. ^^
hoary ore
Ill sit on this one and see how im feeling after I finish this semester, thanks for the info guys
ancient elk
Imo tart is harder than asphodel apart from stompy bois lmao
jaunty falcon
whats a tart
wispy sapphire
yeah stompy are the ones who kill me, so hard to predict and sometimes u just forget they are there
jaunty falcon
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wispy sapphire
and then, surprise mother______
ancient elk
Stompy bois and dusa heads are a nasty combo that catch you by surprise
frosty mountain
I say go for it. kinda sucks that it's on epic but whatever. not that big a deal imo. you might as well grab some free games twice a month
jaunty falcon
dusa heads + laser bois
frosty mountain
not much to lose over some minor convenience
frosty mountain
aaaay
wispy sapphire
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ancient elk
They've done super meatboy, subnautica and soon jackbox
that's a darn good selection if I say so myself
For free
slender linden
isnt there also edith finch for free right now? which i heard is a great game too
ancient elk
I've not played it yet
But
I have it
For free ๐
No they aren't paying me to advertise
signal spoke
what remains of edith finch is wonderful
oops i just jammed 2 indie game names together LOL
slender linden
ive already had it on steam so this is heh xD
frosty mountain
god damn exams. got so much stuff to play
signal spoke
the other one was the vanishing of ethan carter
another really good one
but thats an off topic convo sorry hehe
sick tree
Elesium
reef oracle
tartarus is the first area
jaunty falcon
wops
sick tree
*Elysium
Donno if there will be another level after that but some people seem convinced you'll have to fight up Mt Olympus as well
fair bone
After Elysium?
sick tree
Or that they'll turn some of the minor areas of the underworld into levels in their own right
jaunty falcon
but Elysium is like heaven
ancient elk
River styx maybe, it's an entire floor like the death boat
sick tree
Asphodel is meant to be peaceful as well but they turned it into a burning hell-scape anyway, they'll probably do the same to Elysium
ancient elk
I think someone said Hades did some remodelling
sick tree
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reef oracle
they could be going for their own 9 rings of hell maybe?
frosty mountain
that def sounds too much to develop
sick tree
The river Phlegathon (river of fire) flooded Asphodel, apparently.
The line about remodelling was just to explain why you can't go that far yet because the game isn't finished
reef oracle
maybe not all 9 rings but like inspiration from it
sick tree
Doubt it
Or rather, I hope not
They've done a good job of being accurate to the myths so far,
I don't want them to take influence from the Christian hell
reef oracle
true
jaunty falcon
maybe when we reach Elysium
Thanatos comes and drags us back to Tartrus
new enemies and newer terrains
reef oracle
like an unexplored region eh?
or a part that was cast aside and deemed unworthy of development by the "Almighty Hades"
wispy sapphire
how to claim the free stuff I havenร t even looked at the client apart from booting hades xD
ancient elk
If you go to the store page
It has 1 free game atm
If you click on it and go through the paying stages
It'll say ยฃ0.00 on your list
And then you can just 'purchase' it
And not install it
sick tree
Okay, I've revised my list:
Patrickโs boon concepts V2:
Zeus - Lightning strike (damage to nearby target)
Poseidon - Knock-back + some consumables
Artemis - Critical hit + more casts
Aphrodite - Weakening (reduced enemy damage)
Athena - Deflection + larger AOE + increased defence
Ares - curse (damage to primary target) + blade rifts
Hera - Weakening (reduces defence)?
Demeter -x% chance of summoning friendly creature to assist for x seconds or a shield effect???
Apollo - Blinding light or poison (reduces enemy speed)?
Hephaestus - Burning (damage over x seconds) + some explosives
Hermes - increased attack speed, reduced recovery time or increased AOE???
Dionysus - x% chance of turning target to your side for x seconds
worn gale
well from the Q&A i got the impression that it will be sorta like dead cells
with opotional side bioms
wispy sapphire
cheers
sick tree
?
sick tree
The first 6 are already in the game,
the rest are just me mypothosising
ancient elk
Since when did athena give larger aoe?
sick tree
Only for your cast
half surge
But not going to discuss datamined stuff in main chat so if anyone wants to know I'll DM them
I know kafla
ancient elk
Yeye but please delete your 1st message
half surge
I've talked to a mod about it before
ancient elk
I said something like it and they removed it
half surge
They can remove it if they don't like it, it's the same as me removing it
Just going off what I've been told so far, if it's different then they'll let me know
ancient elk
Yeah but the difference is that until they remove it more people will see it
But yeah I guess
Leave it to the mods
half surge
Removed it
ancient elk
Chrs
Sorry to shut it down like that, I just assume there's a reason they don't want anyone to know any details of it so it'd be best to not idk
signal spoke
Yea it's best not to publicly share that stuff, thanks for deleting
hexed smelt
yup, i was afk but the i think the stance we settled on was "if it's in the files but not ingame, don't talk about it on the server"
worn gale
it seems a bit strange do you think, it's part of the game either that you found it through datamine or you just observed very close
sick tree
Managed to get all the way to the Hydra with the sword but died because I accidentally dashed behind it and got stuck in lava by its head
half surge
rip
sick tree
It was only practice though, now I'm gonna see how far I can get on a brand new save
in the first run
Welp, the answer is: not very far at all, I'm too used to all my upgrades
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ancient elk
Imo it's all about getting used to 1 dash
sterile peak
and the death defiances
stoic bay
Me: I wish you got something out of using the Pact.
SGG: Drops three massive covered objects in the courtyard and directly challenges me to uncover them
Me: Well that shut me up
stoic bay
I got the first one, and honestly its my favorite unlockable so far in the whole game
sick tree
Really?
stoic bay
yup!
stoic bay
well I don't want to spoil what it is, but I think its great and I love that kind of thing in games
hexed smelt
i think it's great. it's there for people who want it, but people who don't want to go through the challenge aren;t missing gameplay benefits by not doing it
stoic bay
exactly. Plus nothing else in the game has made me laugh that much just yet
so 100% worth it
little fable
sick tree
My initial theory was that they'd be alternate costumes for Zag, then I asked and was really disappointed so I stopped trying
I think so, @little fable
stoic bay
they're related to the Pact system, so they might not be there until you unlock that
stoic bay
actually getting an alt. costume for Zag based off of each of the objects would be kinda great
sick tree
I would really like at least one or two
Whether it's just a change of colour scheme or a full-on reskin
They'd have to redo the conversation art for each so I'm not expecting many
But considering it's not animated at all, adding a few wouldn't be very taxing
olive jungle
It might be animated eventually
or at least, athena blinks right now, so
i guess they could probably keep that the same no matter the clothes
for the most part anyways
sick tree
The lack of animation doesn't bother me but that would be cool
ancient elk
An sgg animation would be beautiful if it was the same quality as their gameplay and art
With how fluent the gameplay is i mean
sick tree
I doubt they'll bother,
They haven't done it with any of their previous games and making a variety of expressions for each character would be exponentially more work than just having a static image
I have no doubt they could make it look beautiful if they really wanted to but it would be phenomenally time consuming and costly
olive jungle
The characters in Pyre had a variety of expressions
sick tree
Haven't played it so I donno
olive jungle
Yeah! it's something they introduced since Pyre is so heavily conversation based / visual novel style
sick tree
Hmm ๐
olive jungle
And since Hades takes a similar approach to conversations I wouldn't be surprised if a range of expressions is something that's on the table for this game too
scenic notch
So I've been pretty against early access games for a long while as I feel like it just simply doesn't have enough content or doesn't feel complete enough to be enjoyable. If I feel this way is it still worth picking up Hades?
vital belfry
If you've played other early access rogue lites, were you satisfied with the content and rate of release schedules? If not, maybe consider waiting.
fiery pebble
I mean, Ive gotten a lot of hours out of it
Lemme check
Oh, looks like you cant check that
Idk, like 20 hours I guess?
Quite plausibly even more than that
So it has a bunch to do
@alpine sable that hammer upgrade already exists
alpine sable
fiery pebble
I dont think its very good
Oh and if you attack right after dashing
The charge time is reduced
marsh slate
Hello. Thanks to the supergiants for their games, playing everything. Hades really like it. Is there any information about localization into other languages, in particulary Russian?
hexed smelt
man, okay, i've spent an hour poking my way through but the base values are now in place on chaos's wiki page for their boons
slender linden
they'll probably take care of it after the whole script is done
hexed smelt
rarity multipliers may happen later at some point
and yeah i can't see localization being a high priority when the game's not done
olive jungle
Though it is out in some other languages right now isn't it?
at least the UI has multiple languages
hexed smelt
is it? i have no idea
slender linden
oh yeah, i guess thats a thing
grand crystal
is anyone else having a boon drought in a pact run
cuz ive done like 5 runs and only got 1 or 2 boons by meg
humble pollen
Same ;_;
brisk trail
Found a minor issue, but I don't think it is a bug. If you approach Zagreus' room from this angle and at this position, you don't zone to it until you head left. Maybe make the zoneline bigger here: https://i.imgur.com/SfHEjVP.jpg
solemn echo
the bow with pretty much any artemis boon is wild
worn gale
Tbh its the easiest to use
plain plinth
When a daedalus hammer appears and u forgo it for somethin else, will it appear again later in the game?
olive jungle
It might, yeah. As long as you haven't taken one yet it has a chance to show up in Charon's shops at the very least. I think.
plain plinth
Hmmmmmm ๐ lets see if i messed up this run or not HAHAH
Oh! It appears in another room :D(-]
hoary ore
A question if anyone is still online, does the game have controller support via Epic Games launcher? Im using a generic bluetooth one and steam sets up the keys automatically.
olive jungle
Hades has all the same controller supports as Pyre did; theoretically, it should be fine
strong granite
fair sparrow
do you think HADES fits in the Character Action genre?
karmic trellis
half surge
Got it on my watch later
mortal relic
@half surge Even just a room counter (without the total) would be good. That way there's no spoilers as to how many rooms are ahead.
mortal relic
That'll tell you how far you've ever gotten, but not how many rooms in total there are, no?
half surge
Can't remember exactly
mortal relic
It's a good suggestion, bront.
half surge
Searched for it and couldn't find it.
slender linden
it is but feedback has 'please dont duplicate ideas' rule xD
if you go to search bar, it shows 8 results for 'room counter' well now two results are from here but yeah xD
half surge
ok.
hexed smelt
psst, you can limit your search to feedback by adding in:hades-feedback
slender idol
Anyone got a good time yet?