Ill be honest I dont know if you didnt know
#off-topic-discussion
fervent zenith
I swear I didn't know
tender cobalt
Albino is so shocked that their expression disappeared 
hasty kernel
Polish might be challenging
north hamlet
i don't think albino was here for any of the food talk where it came up
tender cobalt
What food talk?
north hamlet
uno, in addition to being german, does not like cheese
fervent zenith
I know it was unintentional but lol
fervent zenith
What happened to Poland during ww2?
fervent zenith
Yes
hasty kernel
Yeah ok I totally missed that
fervent zenith
No worries lol
hasty kernel
Alright, I looked over a few polish phrases
Some of those I can get
But I imagine natural speech is gonna be tricky
Yup, seems that way
Half of it I totally get
Half of it is just too detached from russian or german
fervent zenith
I see
hasty kernel
A lot of nouns are close to russian, stuff like water, like ticket, like night
Verbs are more hit or miss
Huh, interesting
Russian and polish have less lexical overlap than english and german
tender cobalt
@hasty kernel I vaguely recall it being like a mix of drunk german and surprisingly sober russian
Bruh. That's kinda offensive
@fervent zenith
Do be nice in expressing something, please 😅
hasty kernel
No worries
tender cobalt
No, not you. I meant UNO.
fervent zenith
Oh because you pinged me too
hasty kernel
Sorry
tender cobalt
I was just quoting Albino to denote that it was offensive.
fervent zenith
And that was my message
I thought you mean I had to explain better why was offensive lol
tender cobalt
I will be clearer next time when quoting 
hasty kernel
Actually now Im curious why polish is that far off
Because russian and serbian are pretty close lexically
But further away geographically
mild pelican
i believe it's mostly politic reasons.. growing from very, very old times
hasty kernel
Hm
Could be
Just a bit of an oddity, since languages are usually similar in geographical and lexical closeness
Excluding the legacy of colonialism, of course
Languages sure are curious, arent they?
mild pelican
indeed.. if you happen to know several of them, especially with lots of unchanged words, it's easier to understand some origins of definitions
hasty kernel
Mmh
And there always funny stories in there
Like how a lot of nautical words in russian came from dutch
Because the russian fleet was built with the help of the dutch under Czar Alexey
mild pelican
indeed.. and for many years main trading ways were arranged through northern seas
it's kinda shame.. i lived for a while in Altay, where a lot of Germans live now, mostly migrants after ww2, there were even some radio and TV channels fully on German.. and never actually learnt it.. always seemed too hard..
hasty kernel
Yeah my parents also said that german was quite hard to learn
mild pelican
i can sing along to some Rammstein choruses, but i don't think that counts
hasty kernel
Inversely I think russian is a difficult language to properly learn
Seems to me that every rule has more exceptions than actual cases
Yknow, funny thing is Rammsteins texts are not actually simple
mild pelican
judging from average level of grammatical education of some russian people, i presume, that it's a hard language even for natives
hasty kernel
Like, the singer and songwriter for Rammstein is actually a pretty good poet
mild pelican
even if not all the words may be clear, they still have some melody..
something, that affects the feelings.. some vibe
hasty kernel
Honestly that is something I have noticed when it comes to good german music, their texts are usually their strong point
Not too surprising since german is not a great language for singing
I dont agree that its "harsh", like the stereotype goes, but its not exactly melodic either
The way I tend to describe it is "functional"
blissful charm
german isn't super hard imo, minus prepositions
why are there dative and accusative and dative-accusative prepositions, who decided that
hasty kernel
Leftovers from latin I believe
blissful charm
shoutout to english for having only dative prepositions
hasty kernel
But yeah, honestly german is just funktional, so if you get a basic grasp of the structure, you will mostly be fine
Plus you can just stick 2 words together and it works
mild pelican
yeah.. and in russian there are 6.. in ukranian and belarusian there are 7..
hasty kernel
Honestly I have like 0 clue of russian grammar
My parents tried explaining it a couple of times, but it never sticks
mild pelican
nominative, genitive, dative, accusative, ablative, prepositional and vocative.. everything could be organized by normal prepositions, but they don't look for easy ways..
at least there are only 3 times.. past, present and future
mild pelican
it's still my weakness in english.. like there are a ton of them.. plus passive forms doubles that
hasty kernel
Dont worry, you will have been getting used to it eventually
mild pelican
one of the reasons i'm here practice, practice
mild pelican
also some ways of pronunciation of letters are interesting
like.. in "Pacific Ocean" every C is different
and no examples of original latin pronunciation
hasty kernel
Yes, those words tend to be extremely aggravating
Or my favourite phrase for this context
hexed hollow
same with 'Australia'
all the a's are pronounced differantly
hasty kernel
English is a difficult language, but it can be understood through tough, thorough thought though
mild pelican
indeed
hasty kernel
Also you know english is a silly language when read and lead rhyme, and read and lead rhyme, but read and lead and read and lead do not rhyme
mild pelican
(trying to come up with possible usage of trough)
i believe there was a poem, back when i was studying.. let's see if google remembers it better than me
*When the English tongue we speak.
Why is break not rhymed with freak?
Will you tell me why it's true
We say sew but likewise few?
And the maker of the verse,
Cannot rhyme his horse with worse?
Beard is not the same as heard
Cord is different from word.
Cow is cow but low is low
Shoe is never rhymed with foe.
Think of hose, dose,and lose
And think of goose and yet with choose
Think of comb, tomb and bomb,
Doll and roll or home and some.
Since pay is rhymed with say
Why not paid with said I pray?
Think of blood, food and good.
Mould is not pronounced like could.
Wherefore done, but gone and lone -
Is there any reason known?
To sum up all, it seems to me
Sound and letters don't agree.*
hasty kernel
It is a good poem
blissful charm
see a lot of english pronunciation is tricky bc of loan words, but it's mostly terrible bc of the french, who invaded the anglo-saxons in 1066 and then made them pronounce things the french way
which is why we use queen instead of cwen etc
hasty kernel
Ah yes, french
blissful charm
old english actually made a lot of sense
hasty kernel
I also kinda miss the anglo-saxon runes
After learning them when playing Ys just so I could see what the Roo said
I kinda wish we still had em
blissful charm
runes were super cool
they were actually mostly used for writing on wood bc it's difficult to carve rounded shapes
hasty kernel
Huh
That makes a lot of sense
Even the R that is just an R uses a triangle instead of half-circle at the top
I didnt know that, thats a cool fact
blissful charm
follow for more old english facts
thin orchid
I remember having to learn how to pronounce a handful of middle english sentences a few years back
for a play I was in
er maybe it was old, I'm not sure
hasty kernel
The only old english fact I know is that the reason we call it "ye olde english"
Is because the thorn, the letter used for th, looked like a y
thin orchid
the "th" looked like a cross between a y and a p
mild pelican
idk if it's a good or bad thing that some complicated sounds lost their corresponding letters.. but it's interesting to know
blissful charm
there's the eth and the thorn. eth looks like a d with a little cross at the top and the thorn looks like a P with the point in the middle
hasty kernel
Apparently the Y thing may have been exarcerbated by cost-saving measures in printing?
But that one Im not 100% on
mild pelican
maybe
in russian before soviet times there were several more letters than now.. two of them didn't even have sounds
hasty kernel
Anyway, language talk is very interesting, but its really late so I gotta go
We should do this again sometime
mild pelican
okay.. good luck anyway
i believe that in french there was also similar case with extra letters..
well, yeah..
food talk is sometimes harder at late times
ancient moss
One thing about French is you'll see accent circonflex where a letter has been removed from a word
wide ember
which made both writing and typing harder
in cursive, writing forest is easier than forêt
ancient moss
I'm not sure why they did it. That's the example I remember too
wide ember
and there's also just for emphasis
theatre spells with the same letters in english or in french but in french you add the physical accent
serene tulip
For a second I thought spells was referring to magic
and I was like, "Huh, theater spells...."
dim wedge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/562425098905059328/722264825702645830/This_Is_A_Snek.mp4 For all who enjoy a good snek
proud flicker
@tranquil bay is Dead Cells good?
tranquil bay
it's pretty
I haven't played it in a while though
from what I can remember the controls are very responsive
proud flicker
Nice!
Not like I'm buying it anytime soon
looking at the massive backlog from the BLM bundle
tranquil bay
summer sale should be soon anyway
hexed hollow
looks at yes long backlog yeah I be good on games for now 
tranquil bay
I don't think I've touched dead cells in like over a year and I know there's been a couple big updates since then, so it's probably changed a bit since I last booted it up
marsh ravine
@proud flicker Dead Cells is amazing. It's definitely a flawed game, but if you're into tight combat, Metroid-esque unlocks, and stuff like that, then I think you'll love it.
proud flicker
Aw shute
marsh ravine
I have over 250 hours atleast logged on it xD
tranquil bay
half the time I'm like. looks at my backlog. opens dynasty warriors 8 for the thousandth time why do I have 400 hours in this this is a cry for help
proud flicker
Oh God I'm so used to being stressed playing Hades with Tight Deadline
Now I'm instinctly pausing my turn base game
urban robin
Oh God I'm so used to being stressed playing Hades with Tight Deadline
just ignore the timer it's fine
urban robin
nm you can't fix this
tender cobalt
He's been traumatized
thin orchid
I finally beat ultra greedier with every character in the Binding of Isaac. I am. SO HAPPY. That I never have to play that mode again.
hexed hollow
congrats
thin orchid
I'm up to 374/403 achievements
hexed hollow
ayy getting real close 
hexed hollow
For anyone who needs it 
https://twitter.com/RespectfulMemes/status/1272547365178802176
blissful charm
hecked up that it's the middle of june and it's raining nonstop
give me my sunlight
ancient moss
❤️
serene tulip
anyone in here bought summer at mara and can tell me whether or not they've significantly improved since the demo?
fervent zenith
I got exams
So I promised myself I'd wait to next week to play it
I bought it already tho
Hopefully they have improved a lot since Deiland
The map is probably bigger tho
ancient moss
@serene tulip it reads like an Onion article. Too bad it's true
wait.........
she can't be writing another harry potter from ron's perspective
what is truth and what are lies?
serene tulip
I'm hoping that's a joke about Ender's Shadow
ancient moss
Why even bother trying to tell the difference?
serene tulip
Because you want to retcon things!
ancient moss
exits caring about the world
serene tulip
See Ender's Shadow
ancient moss
I get the reference; it just throws doubt onto the whole rest of the article that they included it as a joke at the end
serene tulip
I mean, other than OSC being a huge jerkface, I think its basically an onion article
ancient moss
Unfortunately, JK has tweeted in support of anti-trans views
that part is true
idk about the essay
blissful charm
she wrote a very long and weird manifesto basically about how trans women were evil predators and weren't really women
ancient moss
hmm
the internet decided notch didn't create minecraft, maybe someday they'll decide that she didn't write Harry Potter?
blissful charm
a lot of people have, but imo i don't think it's a good idea bc it treats the book like it's ideologically pure and ignores all the unsavory parts of them, like the banker goblins
serene tulip
I mean, I've just been used to OSC being a jerk since at least 2005
I don't remember exactly when I read songbird, but that's when I realized something was wrong with OSC
ancient moss
yeah. there's a lot more divisive content inherent to hp than to ... minecraft?
serene tulip
but I don't pretend it was written by hatsune miku
ancient moss
do other people?
blissful charm
lots
ancient moss
did hatsune miku author hp and create minecraft both
blissful charm
both
ancient moss
what else did she do?
Is Joss Whedon still pretty cool? Did he still create things?
blissful charm
the antisemitic goblins is a big one, but more annoyingly she keeps tweeting about how x character is this minority and claiming diversity when none if that was actually in the book
serene tulip
Joss Whedon is only marginally meh
blissful charm
see: black hermione, bisexual harry
fervent zenith
We're really living in the timeline where a Trump appointee wrote a stronger defense of trans people than JK Rowling
ancient moss
I feel like if she had just worded her hermione quote slightly differently, it would have all been fine. But she never clarified
serene tulip
which hermione quote?
ancient moss
She could have been like, "it's cool if a black actress plays hermione" and that would have been rad. But itstead she's like, "hermione isn't specifically white in the books" which is plainly wrong
fervent zenith
That one is mine
blissful charm
yeah yeah
fervent zenith
This one isn't but I have to post it because it's hilarious
serene tulip
That's one I'm more than happy to defend tho
fervent zenith
'This divorce continues to get weirder by the day. The left is getting the NFL and NASCAR, and the right is getting JK Rowling'
ancient moss
Can hatsuki create tesla and spacex too?
and maybe they can have all their issues fixed also
fervent zenith
Never saw Transphobia and homophobia as sexism with extra steps but I'll take it
ancient moss
i've never heard of bisexual harry tho... although I feel like she just wasn't very good at writing romantic relationships...
fervent zenith
Reminder Cho Chang is a thing that exists
serene tulip
A) Other than non-canon book art, the only written thing that alludes to hermione being white is something that her face drained of color
B) A LOT of black girls resonated with hermione and I feel like that is important to not take away from folks
blissful charm
yeah iirc that's a kirean last name + a korean/chinese last name
but like this isn't "taking that away" from people, it was never there to begin with.
ancient moss
I agree with B) 100%. That part about mudbloods in book 2 was so good.
blissful charm
you can't take away diversity that doesn't exist
ancient moss
But I think she can be relatable without actually being written as a black character
blissful charm
oh and hp also had the house elves, which was pretty bad
serene tulip
I'm not saying she's written as a black character, just that its easily open to interpretation and arguing vehemently against it is closer to mean than not
fervent zenith
Also she drew the characters back in early 2000's and Hermione is clearly her stand-in
Like it's obvious Hermione is her 'Bella' at least at first
ancient moss
It is pretty weird when people sound like they're saying, "Hermione couldn't / shouldn't be black"
serene tulip
Hermione features: Mousy brown hair, freckles(?) buck teeth
None of that is exclusive to white people
fervent zenith
Also it's theatre
blissful charm
no one's saying like people can't draw black hermione, but the problem is rowling getting kudos for things she didn't write
fervent zenith
Reminder Secretary of Treasury and slave advocate Alexander Hamilton was not. In fact Puerto Rican
ancient moss
I think the biggest arguments against hermione possibly being a black character is that she reacts to being called a mudblood like it's a new thing for her
fervent zenith
In theatre races and sexes are irrelevant
ancient moss
in the books
in an adaptation I think it's awesome to reinterpret her as a black character
fervent zenith
It has always been. So who cares Hermione is cast black?
blissful charm
no one's saying she can't be cast as black
fervent zenith
The controversy began because a black Hermione was cast in the theater adaptation
This was supposed to be a non-issue that somehow spiraled out of control
ancient moss
I think there is a camp of people that is deep down unhappy at seeing a black hermione when they imagined her as white. I think there's another camp that thinks JK is trying to imply diversity in her books where she didn't earn it. And there's a third camp that is 1. but arguing like 2.
fervent zenith
Also kinda unrelated. Rereading some parts I completely believe Dumbledore is gay
ancient moss
Yeah that part completely makes sense to me 🙂
fervent zenith
His sister was killed because he was a dumbass in love. And not because he harbored supremacist vuews
ancient moss
why not both
he harbored supremacist views because he was in love (lust?) with a supremacist
I love how when people defend Dumbledore with, "wasn't he really young back then," Harry always tells them, "He was the same age as we are now."
And it still is one of Dumbledore's biggest regrets
sorry for speaking so much -- i'm going to slow down
mild pelican
i still think that hp wasn't supposed to be that large of a universe, untill it became too popular.. too many things changed sometime around 5th book
books became much bigger, story much darker, it almost changed the genre
maybe the fairytale about wizards wasn't supposed to carry on all the things happening later, bc most of the parts of canon things were already established when it was not that important
ancient moss
when I read the books, books 1-4 were all about learning something new about the magical universe. But you may be right -> it may have had problems staying consistent as it grew
mild pelican
i've just had hard time reading 5th book.. and never got to other ones after.. but couldn't avoid spoilers anyway after movie adaptation, so i've just read the plot summary.. and can't describe it in one censor-friendly word
it became so grim and complicated
just like images of movie adaptation
wide ember
Ok but what if Asian hermione
Black Harry
Latino Dumbledore
Because if Shakespeare plays can randomly cast characters in total different races (like the son can be visibly of a different race from the parents) then why not for novels
mild pelican
if i believe correctly, some modern theatres don't care about visual likeness to the point they give up proper clothing, and end up with dressing everyone in pale robes
many director's don't see nessesary for characters to stay true to the source.. they call it "modern interpretation"
theatres is one thing.. but in the book it's harder to dress everyone in same pale clothes
fervent zenith
Fun fact Patrick Stewart was Othello once
mild pelican
well, i know one book, but it had a bad ending
fervent zenith
That reminds me to an hilarious quote of Ian McKellen
ancient moss
Othello would be all like, "There are four lights!"
Heh but it do be like that sometimes
blissful charm
please don't post strong language, even if it is linked, thank you
fervent zenith
Ok deleted it
blissful charm
oh no you're fine, this was in response to a member who linked to a comic with strong language in it
fervent zenith
Oh
I thought you were talking about Ian McKellen talking about Silence from The Lambs
Damned asynchronous chat
tardy anchor
IT KEPT GOING????????
tender cobalt
Why didn't you make it a tongue twister?
proud flicker
Lost opportunity huh
There are so many games I want
But I also have so many games I haven't touched...
tender cobalt
Let's form a club
tender cobalt
....Mei has been included in Heroes of the Storm 
thin orchid
And she's a high mobility area-cc tank, lol
I find it interesting that this is the first ow character they've had to take major liberties with for hots
thin orchid
Raynor got revamped a while back, but I'm not 100% sure how much
Only thing I know is that the passive burst heal is now his e
fringe sparrow
Do someone played God Eater 3 on switch ?
thin orchid
I prefer auriel
velvet fjord
I was prepared to lose it at Mei's inclusion but since all her abilities already exist, I'm now indifferent
what I wouldn't give for the overmind or c'thun though...
thin orchid
It's weird, her ice wall is her second ult option, her ice block is her trait, and her ult is her e
velvet fjord
and ice block doesn't even work at all like in overwatch
tender cobalt
Doesn't work at all like in OW? How come?
I see it has the same statis + healing effect 
Or was it changed?
thin orchid
Well it still heals, and she's unstoppable, but it's just a shield rather than invulnerable
tender cobalt
Oooh, it's a shield?
thin orchid
Yeah
tender cobalt
Aaah, so it works like Kerrigan's talent.
thin orchid
A large shield, granted, but she can be hurt
tender cobalt
Well, that'd be the only difference. The rest is still there.
thin orchid
Yeah
tender cobalt
I think it's for balancing purposes + coding. Statis characters can't be healed normally + that would be pretty unbalanced when we consider Kerrigan's Chrysalis and Jaina's Ice Block, among others.
velvet fjord
I need to get back into hots
I drop in and out every few weeks
sudden torrent
I heard my friend brief about Mei in HOTS. Do I not wish to return atm to the game at least to pvp, because she sounds like all around just unstoppable force unless you silence her.
proud flicker
Sounds like Fenix at launch
velvet fjord
fenix was insane lol
tender cobalt
Imma firing mah lazerz ROAR
sudden torrent
Mei definitely needs a good tweaking
thin orchid
I mean, most characters do on launch
sudden torrent
also her being tank was kind of unexpected to me won't lie
thin orchid
I thought it was funny
velvet fjord
the OW community has been pushing for her to be reclassed as tank for a while now I think
I haven't played OW in years though
thin orchid
Cute smol Asian goirl, in game tank
velvet fjord
at least I can abathur hat mei
the days after Deathwing's release was agony for me as an abathur main
proud flicker
I quit HotS because I can't stand the PvP environment
sudden torrent
deathwing was indeed something, though he had something against him mostly how long his charge is, unless they have teamed up with a character that stuns or root, then yeah he was a problem
proud flicker
But now and then I want to play it
Should I come back
Also, any Nova player here?
sudden torrent
only with a friend really I guess
thin orchid
I basically just play co-op lmao
sudden torrent
queuing up for pvp with cho'gall is the way to go for me, though changing from character to character there and there.
also quick off topic, but what you all think on these weather additions
proud flicker
What weather
thin orchid
Ah yes, rng. Everyone's favorite mechanic for competitive games.
proud flicker
Tbf, things like Poker, online card games, etc. exist
fervent zenith
I'm a Varyan main
fervent zenith
Ok, Garrosh
serene tulip
You'd think, given how much I just like to AFK push, I'd like sylvanos more
velvet fjord
ach I tried sylvanas and just could not get it
serene tulip
I honestly think that HotS is more fun than Dota
but my friends only want to play dota
Hots Secondary Objectives: "Roam through this second arena to collect drops from mobs in order to spawn a giant zombie" Dota secondary objectives: "Every 5 minutes a rune spawns that gives you money"
serene tulip
40 is average :<
analog spear
I Mained tyrande but then they completely reworked her
serene tulip
I don't know if its changed, but I definitely used to play Sgt hammer a lot until they were like, "lol, siege mode is for wusses
velvet fjord
I love HoTS because it's more team reliant, varied, and the 20ish minute games
analog spear
Nowadays I play ktz out of spite because I think he’s broken in qm and I want to prove a point
velvet fjord
such a shame the dev team got butchered
oh kelthuzad gang
I played him a bunch before they changed up his trait/nerfed phylactery
serene tulip
Yeah, Blizzard is doing a great job of doing a terrible job
analog spear
I start every game buy complaining about him in team chat then complicating my stacks in 4-6 min
velvet fjord
either kel or orphea are my go-to for the "big damage murder mages" in draft
since I don't like kaelthas
analog spear
Orph was another main for me, but I just didn’t like the startup on all of my stuff
serene tulip
I don't remember orph
analog spear
Neither do the devs 😭
velvet fjord
I was able to land her Q pretty consistently, which helped a lot
shoutout to hots lore, which lasted all of 2 months
velvet fjord
yeah
serene tulip
I'm so mad at blizzard for being so garbage
velvet fjord
I got into hots from overwatch and stayed in it longer, but jeez the hots team could not catch a break
serene tulip
I haven't played in literally forever but I'd totally lose with anyone Oceloctopus#1370
hasty kernel
I think I have found my favourite character design in Long Gone Days
Funny enough her name is that of a girl that, looking back, there is a 25% chance I had a crush on?
serene tulip
reminds me of that time that I realized the character I made in FFXIV looked scarily similar to a girl in my grm
hasty kernel
Ok, I have found a major plothole in Long Gone days
There is no way young germans wouldnt know english
hasty kernel
Jokes aside, I like the game so far
wide ember
only in context of installing bootleg chinese games but what is the issue?
copper lichen
I'm trying finish my computer logic work
and I have a question that ask me to figure out what characters a string of hex is representing
hasty kernel
Oh hey that might be one of the few things I can help with
Which Unicode standard is it?
copper lichen
UTF-8 @hasty kernel
sorry I was tearing my hair out trying to figure it out by myself
hasty kernel
Ok I cant guarantee this 100% because UTF-8 Im a bit rusty in
But I think that that is 4 characters
E2 86 99, C3 AF, 4E and E2 88 AA
copper lichen
thank you
hasty kernel
Im gonna look something up to make sure Im not saying nonsense real quick
copper lichen
yes
if you can give me a quick crash course on how unicode encoding works it'd be very nice
hasty kernel
Alright, so
The way UTF - 8 specifically is encoded is that the first few digits of the first byte tell you how many bytes the character uses
A 1 byte character begins with 0
A 2 byte character with 110
3 bytes 1110, and 4 bytes 11110
hasty kernel
Simply binary to hexadecimal conversion
The key aspect here is that a nibble (4 bits) is a hexadecimal value
So if you look at the 3 bytes, you see that its always going to have the same hexadecimal value at the start, which is the equivalent of 1110
Now, its binary, so its 1x8 + 1x4 + 1x2 + 0x1
Which is 14
copper lichen
I can do conversions
hasty kernel
14 in Hexadecimal is E, as its the fifth number past 9
Ah, alright
Im just making sure
copper lichen
I got the basics of computer logic
hasty kernel
So from that you know that in UTF-8, if the first Hexadecimal value starts with E
copper lichen
like different radix and how to convert them etc
hasty kernel
Its a 3 byte character
copper lichen
alright
hasty kernel
Then you look at the next one after those 3 bytes
That one begins with C3
Since it begins with C you already know it cant be a 1 byte character, because C requires the first bit (the one representing 8) to be a 1, and the 1 byte characters start with 0
And its not E, so trivially it must be a 2 byte character
4E starts with a 0, its a 1 byte character
And then you get another byte starting with E, so its 3 bytes again
The other Unicode standards are however different
copper lichen
I'm still processing it
for now I just need UTF 8 since it's needed for an assignment
hasty kernel
Alright
copper lichen
so how do I reconise the markers
the one that tells me how many bytes that character uses
hasty kernel
Just by looking at the first hexadecimal value, or the first 4 bits
Thats just how UTF-8 is defined
copper lichen
alright
hasty kernel
1 byte is 0xxxxxxx
2 byte is 110xxxxx
3 byte is 1110xxxx
4 byte is 11110xxx
Or in hexadecimal, 1 byte is anything that isnt 8 or higher, 2 byte is 8 to D, 3 byte is E, 4 byte is F
copper lichen
okay
copper lichen
ok, take the first letter for example
hasty kernel
UTF - 8 characters dont start with A or B
copper lichen
my internet just lagged a bit
hasty kernel
I think its discord
hasty kernel
Seems so
copper lichen
it would seems so
anyway take the first letter, E2 86 99
I convert it into a binary string
and then what
hasty kernel
You just take the E
The very first hexadecimal number
Convert it to binary, and then look at which of the byte schemes it fits
Though there is one other trick
If its a character that uses multiple bytes, the other bytes all start with 10
Meaning anything from 8 to B
Or are you asking how to convert the hexadecimal to a character?
I mean, the encoding
hasty kernel
Alright
copper lichen
and I will have to explain the process behind it
hasty kernel
Well I will be explaining how to do it anyway, so just try to follow along
copper lichen
ok
hasty kernel
What you want is the Unicode codepoint
You have to look that one up in the end anyway
copper lichen
already have that on
hasty kernel
I dont think anyone knows all the unicodes memorised
copper lichen
yes
hasty kernel
Well the way you do that is you take your unicode, lets use E2 86 99
You convert the whole thing into binary
It should look like this: 1110 XXXX 10XX XXXX 10XX XXXX
With X being 1s or 0s
copper lichen
indeed it does
hasty kernel
Then you remove the 1110, and the 10s
Combine the whole thing
And thats your unicode point
In this case, let me convert real quick
hasty kernel
1110 0010 1000 0110 1001 1001
Which leaves you with 0010 0001 1001 1001
I think?
In hex thats 2199
copper lichen
I want to bash my own head in
hasty kernel
Are you sure its E2 86 99?
copper lichen
I am
hasty kernel
Sure, give it a shot
hasty kernel
Yup, hence C3 AF
copper lichen
the format for it is 110xxxxx 10xxxxxx
so
11000011 10101111
00011 101111
which is
EF
U+EF is
I with two dots above it
copper lichen
last one is E2 88 AA
which is similar to the first one
11100010 10001000 10101010
0010 001000 101010
222A
U+222A
an U
hasty kernel
Well
Its the mathematical sign for Union actually
∪
It does look like a U though
hasty kernel
Yeah again, these are odd choices
I guess the idea was to make sure people didnt just guess or something
copper lichen
the extra credit better worth the 4 hours I put into this and the mental stress I experienced
hasty kernel
But you got the basic concept and the letters right
copper lichen
thanks uno
hasty kernel
Dont ask me about UTF-16 btw I tried reading up on it and I dont get it
Youre welcome
copper lichen
lol
I guess my mistake was I thought the string can only use one type of encoding in it
but it turns out it is self contained
hasty kernel
Yeah the big advantage UTF-8 has, and the reason its the most common encoding, is that its flexible
And saves space
Like, a lot of space
copper lichen
and gives CS teacher a lot of giggles at their student's expense
can I ask you to help me with one last thing?
hasty kernel
Sure
copper lichen
so with your impromptu lesson I can somewhat understand UTF 8
hasty kernel
Please dont be UTF-16, please dont be UTF-16 please dont be UTF-16
hasty kernel
Good
Honestly there is barely any reason to learn UTF-16
Its not used
Anyway, you were saying?
copper lichen
the simplest way to figure out a control character is to just convert them all into binary and look for the marker strings right?
wait
you start with the first one
then do that character
then you look at the next one
it makes sense now
thank you
hasty kernel
If youre working with a string, yeah
copper lichen
I see
hasty kernel
You look for the first one, see how many bytes that character uses, then look for the next one
copper lichen
yes
my school starts in 4 hours and I stayed up for the last 9 hour to do this thing
it's not urgent, I have till the rest of the week to do it but I just want to get over with it
hasty kernel
Well, at least now you can kick back and relax knowing you got the thing done
copper lichen
well we are now leaning set theory which I can tell you is infinitely easier
but I digress
I just need to finish this thing and get sleep so I can actually pay attention in class
hasty kernel
You said youre doing this for school?
copper lichen
indeed
hasty kernel
Logic is my favourite part of CS, sadly there isnt much of it in uni
Youre basically done after predicate logic
I guess if its anything like my CS class (which to be fair, what are the odds, since its probably different in every country) you get a small glimpse into all aspects
Other than hardware
copper lichen
if your country is Australia then I might get the same experience as you do
hasty kernel
Nope
Honestly I had a fair bit of luck with CS in high school
Our teacher was actually really good
Funny guy, too
copper lichen
and I might be more chatty when I'm not sleep deprived
hasty kernel
You need to even more than I do
hasty kernel
I usually had either subjects I didnt care for, or subjects where I was given carte blanche early in the day
Stuff like math or english where the teachers know Im good and where Im pretty much free to just relax
That was nice
I miss that
copper lichen
ok I really need to get going now lol
hasty kernel
Yup
tender cobalt
@sudden dome I miss your voice already 💔
sudden dome
I'll try to keep up streams now that I have no school to worry about
thanks for showing up!
tender cobalt
Throws Silvaria in
hushed zenith
Okay! Carrds are like, little one-page websites that give full customisability and stuff?
proud flicker
You stream 6000j?
hushed zenith
They have templates and a tutorial on how to add text boses and do transitions (because they use buttons and other stuff to simulate an experience of a multi-page website), and have the functionality of letting you add as many as you want.
tender cobalt
Oh gosh, I just went to the site and it asked me to register and something about pro 😖
tender cobalt
I don't have to register either right? I want to test it right now (and procrastinate what I was supposed to do now)
hushed zenith
The "pro" thing is so you can make a bunch of websites on one account (which wouldn't be needed for what you're trying to do), and to have like, scoial media tie in fucntionality.
yeah, you only register if you want to save it and come back later.
Also I think pro has a few like, specific templates locked to it, but they're about as necessary as a paid Tumblr theme
tender cobalt
Something simple works 👍
proud flicker
Is this for the Hall of Fame or something entirely different?
tender cobalt
Now let's see here.... I made a title and now for some contents....
Yeah, it's for that.
hushed zenith
Yeah! I suggested a website builder so Peach could haave an easily editable Hall of Fame without needing to do a lot of work, hopefully.
proud flicker
Nice!
hushed zenith
I'd link mine for an example but it has swear words all in it because of how I conduct myself elsewhere, as well as most of my online contact information.
sudden dome
@proud flicker I don't stream super consistently but I did stream a couple runs today!
tender cobalt
Oh my, I don't wanna registerrr....
What if I just make a card myself using my image editor?
I hate creating new accounts because I lose track of them 😆
soft panther
I'd love to see the weekly challenges named with descriptions!
tender cobalt
Time to get creative~
hushed zenith
that's fair honestly, the only reason I remember what my account is is because the site builder's popular on the twitter circles I hang out in.
tender cobalt
Well, this week's challenge could be named "Back to Day 1".
soft panther
Like the first weekly (feather duster and TD2) could be "Quick Dusting" with a description like "Dusa in trouble! She's has too many things to clean and too little time. Maybe a certain god of blood could lend her a hand...?"
and yeah this weekly could be "back to basics' or something
tender cobalt
I should have added Fidi to last week's challenge. It was definitely Dusa themed 
soft panther
oh better yet, call the first week "A Quick Dust Up" for that sick double meaning
tender cobalt
I'm going to do just that and write your name to credit for that marvelous description
soft panther
and yeah fidi would have been great, but uh... dusa was too busy to help you out? you were doing it as a surprise? i don't know
Daww, what a sweet heart
proud flicker
Yeah some names would be nice
So i can stop naming my vids a peachy challenge 1, a peachy challenge 2
soft panther
If you ever need help with anything like this, I love this sort of thing
@proud flicker I'd recommend something like "<Weekly Title>": PC #<Weekly number>
tender cobalt
Ha! I'd love getting ideas for descriptions. You are very welcome to assist me
soft panther
tender cobalt
I actually have next week's challenge planned (if anyone wants another one)
proud flicker
I'm not done with this week yet xD
sudden dome
Don't tell people before next week!
tender cobalt
Oh, I won't. It's a secret, shh!
sudden dome
Gotta space them out and not run out of ideas!
proud flicker
||Hades|| fights just seem so weird
Maybe just my luck but his attacks stun lock and clip through the columns
soft panther
I'd love to hear to help plan it out!
proud flicker
Tomorrow maybe
soft panther
or a private message if others don't want to find out
Redacted is a fun fight. I think some of his adds are a little less balanced than others however
tender cobalt
@proud flicker Spoiler tag that name please
sudden dome
Gotta love getting 2 middle management butterflies in a row as adds!
tender cobalt
Peachy Weekly Challenge #1: A Quick Dust Up!
"Dusa in trouble! She's has too many things to clean and too little time. Maybe a certain god of blood could lend her a hand...?"
(Credit to Firespirit for the name & description idea)
Conditions: Tight Deadline 2 + Harpy Feather Duster (Companion Fidi is optional)
Hall of Fame:
- Foxhope
- Firespirit
- Aqualion
How does that look?
soft panther
Looks fantastic! Do you think fidi should be mandatory, optional, or restricted? Is dusa here to help? or are we here to help dusa? is no one meant to learn of our secret deeds?
proud flicker
Sorry, forgot I'm not in gameplay or beta
tender cobalt
I want it to be mandatory but people completed the challenge before I wanted to add that detail so I made it optional.
It happens, doggo 
soft panther
That's true, let me check quickly if I even used my summon lol
tender cobalt
Well, now to think about a title and description for the current challenge. My theme was "back to how you started".
soft panther
I'd recommend "Back to the Basics" "A Distant Memory" or "The First Drop"
tender cobalt
Hey, Distant Memory (keepsake) actually suits the theme. I like it~
That will be the title, officially!
soft panther
I was about to say that title may be a little weird for people who only started recently but
it all works out in the end
tender cobalt
Well, the challenges will contain unlocked stuff so it's meant for people who want something fresh.
I could still add them to the Hall of Fame if they decide to try it out at a later date. I just thought of ways to keep people entertained for a bit each week
soft panther
Makes sense! In that case I think it's fine for the hall of fame right now to only contain those who completed the challenge within the week
I'd assume keeping track of every person who completed every challenge every time would become a nightmare
tender cobalt
Oh yes....
I will make a nice picture of each challenge at the beginning of the week and at the end I will add the Hall of Fame to it and post it
soft panther
Rough draft/ideas for this week's description: "With both Megeara and Orpheus talking so much about the old days, a certain someone realized that they've started to forget their own beginnings! Without all the gifts granted by family and friends alike, could they have ever reached as far as they have now? It's time to find out!"
proud flicker
Good night!
soft panther
Gnight foxy!
tender cobalt
Gnight!
hexed hollow
Ni ni fox 
steady gale
Why is Nekheb called Eileithyiaspolis when its nome deity nekhbet is not in any way, shape or form associated with childbirth, Nekhbet is the goddess of the sovereignty of Upper Egypt?
ancient moss
Anyone trying to buy any Klei games on steam sale
proud flicker
Combat in DS or DST includes: hit f while counting to some specific number, run, turn back and repeat
That's literally it.
serene tulip
Play as that one character that only eats meat and just tank everything wearing the OP helmet
proud flicker
Wigfrid
tranquil bay
@ancient moss ive owned mark of the ninja for years, it was neat from what i remember of it. have never bought the remaster tho
strange cedar
Has anyone else been trying out the new demos?
Some of them are dope af
Anything catch your eye @fervent zenith ?
fervent zenith
Sry watching a Livestream
strange cedar
Oops sorry for disturbing
fervent zenith
Will tell later
strange cedar
Sure!
fervent zenith
np
ancient moss
The counting method depends on your computer not lagging
I'm going to try playing hades but with discord turned off on PC... maybe it is slowing things down.
Also trying launching Hades.exe instead of whatever the steam shortcut does
My next experiment will be to turn off vsync
Ah... steam controller doesn't work for more than menus from just Hades.exe
sharp grail
just checked out the pride sale, i would recommend we know the devil, a normal lost phone, gone home and tacoma, though probably everyone heard about those already
tender cobalt
(I haven't...)
autumn pasture
tacoma was pretty good
sharp grail
omg im glad you havent peach :D i get to recommend it to someone new
tender cobalt
Is checking Steam now
faint panther
serene tulip
proud flicker
Wooloo 
tender cobalt
Aaaaah! 💗
wide ember
I'm tempted to shear that
there was this event in mabinogi fantasy life where giant magical sheep that grow cotton candy instead of wool may spawn randomly near settlements and shearing them were so fun
serene tulip
tender cobalt
OMG You have emojis from HIM?!
serene tulip
from whom?
hasty kernel
TerminalMontage
On a sidenote, a joke I thought was funny that some might have missed in Long Gone Days
When youre looking for the studio building, one of the buildings you walk past is called "Roter Hering"
Or "red herring" if translated
wide ember
random question: is celtic closer to english or to german?
in general, since there were too many different celts
fervent zenith
DON'T BUY A NORMAL LOST PHONE
it came in the racial equality bundle
ancient moss
mark hamill joker up there was the best one
wide ember
I see that my question was a bit ambiguous in retrospect, I did mean the language group
wide ember
...celtic's closest living relative might be greek
wide ember
right, sorry I forgot about welsh
wait no
welsh is a descendant of celtic
it is still the closest though I was looking for relatives on the metaphorical horizontal line
wide ember
and Yddish actually is a Germanic language I'm surprised
direct descendant of old high german
(I've found this chart https://www.ancient.eu/uploads/images/1028.png?v=1569516557 shortly after asking the initial question)
hasty kernel
Yup, yiddish is germanic
It actually shares a fair bit of vocab with german
Thats why some of the "german" words in english are actually Yiddish
"Dreck" for example
Oh, and "glitch" apparently
serene tulip
I have played two games of Hots against bots now
since we had that discussion about it yesterday
Probius is fun
We had a valla, sylvanos and KT and I still got most hero damage
velvet fjord
probius is fun
criminally underlooked, people question when I pick him and then see the explosions
plush lodge
can i just say that this whole server is really chill and wholesome
limber walrus
yes, yes you can :D
plush lodge
(i thought this is the place to say such things)
limber walrus
o7
plush lodge
also i've never had any chance to communicate in english this much and i can't think of a place more welcoming and comfortable to start communicating in english
sry i'm just... loving this experience and can't be silent about it :D
limber walrus
you don't have to be! I'm super happy that you're enjoying this :D
plush lodge
aw thanks <3
blissful charm
glad you're enjoying yourself here
mild pelican
same here
serene tulip
I think people just underestimate probius
they're like, "Aww, this little bugger is barely dealing any damage to m-"explodes
hasty kernel
"Thanks a lot for the help"
Also come on, ||We dont even get to beat the smug bastards face bloody? Disappointing||
hasty kernel
||I just rescued Zoe||
||Well thats where I was, since then I played a bit further and got her back to her apartment||
tender cobalt
|| Yay, spoiler tags! ||
hasty kernel
||Spoilertagging so much its gonna look like a CIA document||
tender cobalt
Indeed 
tranquil bay
hey hold on i just realized @soft panther strange taste what
soft panther
Lol the delay
tranquil bay
yes it took me 20 minutes to realize
soft panther
you just like little annoyances and outcasts
ie Hypnos, Theseus, Ares, Than? i think, etc.
which most people, surprisingly, do not
tranquil bay
than is popular though
soft panther
he's more bland than a saltine
tranquil bay
i mean i dont inherently disagree lol. than ranks up in my top 5 as a package deal with ares tbh, bc since they are already established as co-workers of sorts, their potential dynamic is very interesting to me
soft panther
In that case, I'd look towards hermes or ||nyx|| even
Than is just a walking corpse who guides other not-walking corpses to the underworld
tranquil bay
than is more interesting when looking at him with someone else lmao and not so much on his own. this is certainly a very unpopular fandom opinion haha
but i uh dont know how else to say 'ares and than are a package deal because war and death together is poetic and romantic as hell' :)
was kinda what i was getting at without necessarily saying that much
soft panther
Ah okay that makes a lot more sense then
Still personally not a fan of than, but romanced him anyway to fully embody that ||god of blood|| feel
tranquil bay
yeah i did too bc im hungry for dialogue but thats about it. if you check fanworks (art and fic) the amount of thanzag would make you wonder if theres other characters in the game at all lol. i mean i got nothing against it, make content for what you enjoy, but if youre not aware thats a top fandom popular thing, you are now!
so than is really popular and thats a big reason for it since its "canon," so to speak
soft panther
I see, that makes a lot more sense then. Still means you have a couple of unpopular favorites however
tranquil bay
oh thats just inevitable, i cant like anything without always being drawn to unpopular characters, without fail rofl
theseus is def the big unpopular one i enjoy a lot
blissful charm
this conversation would probably be best in #h1-discussion
tranquil bay
well i came to off topic to ask fire about what was meant by strange taste lmao i didnt expect it to divert back to a hades convo, in fairness
blissful charm
that's fine, it happens
tranquil bay
yeah i just didnt want to clog up gameplay or another channel asking for that clarification. im p much done now though
blissful charm
so who's hype for pkmn snap?
serene tulip
The last thing I was hyped for was season four of the expanse
which was, what, last december?
hexed hollow
meeeee 
blissful charm
i really liked snap as a kid, i am so delighted to see it come back
tranquil bay
it only took two decades of people asking for a new game... 😩
the fact they acknowledged in the announcement the original game came out so long ago lol
raven harbor
Yeah I definitely did not expect happy tears at 9:30 this morning but here we are lol
fervent zenith
@hasty kernel ||You can rescue her without fighting the boss. I did it in my second playthrough||
hasty kernel
||Wait, you can? Lemme guess, you basically avoid the fights, and they dont raise the door?||
||I just wanted to beat him up||
fervent zenith
||You promise him you gonna get the tape and he lets you go with Zoe without a fight although later you have to do a sidequest for him||
hasty kernel
||Yeah no definitely glad I went for this choice||
tender cobalt
So Pokemon Snap is getting a sequel or a re-release?
hexed hollow
sequal iirc
tender cobalt
I used to play that with my brother when we were kids. Ah, good times~
tender cobalt
It drove me nutz not knowing if I had taken a shot to every single scenario and it blew my mind whenever something unexpected happened.
fervent zenith
@hasty kernel The fact that that choice exists makes me angry in the context of the ending of the latest chapter
You'll see
fervent zenith
I'm not Beetlejuice. One is necessary
The scene in Atiye's home was hilarious btw
hasty kernel
Oh the one where ||they think its been broken into? Yeah that was great||
hasty kernel
Uh, Im not sure what you mean by that
fervent zenith
In gameplay
One of the playable characters is clearly much better
To the point you can solo the game with them
hasty kernel
Hmm
All of them seem kinda busted in their own way
Rourke has bleeding which is insane against bosses, Adair can heal ridiculously and Lynn seems to just do bonkers damage
ancient moss
Hey y'all, this is a discord question. In IRC I can start typing someone's name, and tab complete. Can discord do this too or do I have to start it with @?
sacred quiver
It has to start with an @ for auto complete as far as I know
ancient moss
It's not that hard of a change to make -- I actually just discovered that you could tab complete once you started it with @graceful flower before that I thought you had to @, and then click on the name you wanted. idk why I didn't try it before
tender cobalt
@sudden dome I miss you already 
strange cedar
Oh
tender cobalt
Yay! 🎊
strange cedar
Then Have fun!
tender cobalt
Recharge and get back with more Aussie strength 🐨
sudden dome
That's the plan! Might not stream tomorrow or if I do it won't be much BC I'm meeting up with friends
hexed hollow
🐨
sudden dome
🐨
hexed hollow
side tangent; I is sad PAX Aus isn't happening this year, but understand why
sudden dome
Streaming is great because it's actually very little effort for me to just go through my thought process out loud, although it definitely isn't the best content to watch lol
Yeah events are just not really an option sadly
sudden dome
This year and last year have just been knuckling down and getting school well
Because in ACT years 11/12 are the same worth
hexed hollow
that's fair, school is important
sudden dome
Definitely
tender cobalt
Streaming is great because it's actually very little effort for me to just go through my thought process out loud, although it definitely isn't the best content to watch lol
@sudden dome Shut up, I like listening to you 😛
sudden dome
I really hope I get into the course I want 🙏
hexed hollow
what course is that if you don't mind me asking?
sudden dome
Double degree in Mathematical Sciences and Advanced Computing at the ANU
hexed hollow
sounds interesting, I wish you the best of luck
sudden dome
Thanks!
tender cobalt
I wish you all the best too 😊
sudden dome
hexed hollow
nice wolsk emote btw
sudden dome
sudden dome
🙂
grizzled anchor
@elfin rock my guy it has been a while, how are you doing in this quarantine
graceful flower
It's not that hard of a change to make -- I actually just discovered that you could tab complete once you started it with @graceful flower before that I thought you had to @, and then click on the name you wanted. idk why I didn't try it before
@ancient moss
mild pelican
I believe twitch has similar feature with @
north hamlet
would not at all be surprised if the feature was inspired by irc
on both of the newer platforms
ancient moss
one clear way that discord surpasses standard IRC is the ability to react to posts, and edit posts!
serene tulip
I preferred IRC because it was significantly more lightweight and deentralized
If your IRC server got evil, you could easily migrate to a new one, if Discord goes evil we're all screwed
fervent zenith
Guys
Guys
You have to play Potentia Demo
It's so bad it's hilarious and fascinating
proud flicker
On that note, what's the video game equivalent of The Room? Like it's so bad it's good.
serene tulip
that depends on whether the intention of the creator is in account of whether or not its a good game.
E.G. Goat Simulator is a terrible game, but that was kinda the intention.
wide ember
Outer Wilds is on sale...
fervent zenith
https://mobile.twitter.com/CyberpunkGame/status/1273647385294626816
RIP the internet
2 months and 2 days delay
fervent zenith
Cyberpunk 2077 is already the release date
Pre-order it now and it comes with a free copy of Star Citizen
placid talon
Damn. Well, looks like I need to reschedule my PTO
wide ember
Christmas 2077, the game is finally released, the descendants of the pre-orderers gathered at the door of mega-Amazon spaceships, demanding the copies promised to their parents and grandparents
fervent zenith
Gamers dissapointed When Ciri in fact doesn't make a Cameo as gamers have been insisting for 60 years despite CDPR denials
serene tulip
@sudden torrent the game had already been delayed once after that tweet was made
preeeeeeeeetty sure they were being sarcastic
autumn pasture
anyone have any steam game fest demos to recommend?
so far the highlights for me are pendragon and tenderfoot tactics
not counting things like spiritfarer, haven etc i'd already played demos of
wide ember
skatebird