off-topic-discussion

[lunar badger]

for very specific folks

but that's the system's problem, not the people

[torpid apex]

Welp at least im one less worry without debt, stpm is handy for getting into local uni which is also subsidised

Yeah exactly

We do what we can

Being minority is like running 10 heat off the bat lol

Oh woop, i have to go dinner

[lunar badger]

Honestly it is lmao it's basically hell mode

damn that's late dinner but enjoy ur food!

[torpid apex]

See you around owo

Aha yeah it is XD

[lunar badger]

im always lurking here and posting art so ya haha

[torpid apex]

fingerguns

[fervent zenith]

[serene tulip]

uuuuuuuugh

I have to do work

I'm so tired

[haughty fog]

sleep is for the weak

Achilles sir

[fervent zenith]

Well Gods and dead people have it easier

[serene tulip]

Sleep is for people who aren't in their 20s

and while teens might not feel like they need sleep they need it for developmental reasons

[serene tulip]

this looks like a #self-promotion thing

[hidden siren]

Bro what is this bro you cant tell us to do this bro

what if it asks for our credit card number

[velvet fjord]

we need it but we avoid it anyways 😎

[fervent zenith]

Opinion

https://store.steampowered.com/app/419480/Starpoint_Gemini_Warlords/

Steam

Starpoint Gemini Warlords

Starpoint Gemini Warlords is a space sim coupled with role-playing and strategy elements. Send your mighty war fleets into combat or lead them yourself. The choice is yours. Be the Warlord!Control your ship directly to show off your battle prowess. Aim and fire manually or com...

Price

$6.99

Recommendations

2483

Metacritic

73

▶ Play video

Yay or nay?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/300060/ADR1FT/

Steam

ADR1FT

ADR1FT is an immersive First Person Experience (FPX) that tells the story of an astronaut in peril. Floating silently amongst the wreckage of a destroyed space station with no memory and a severely damaged EVA suit slowly leaking oxygen, the only survivor struggles to determin...

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

918

Metacritic

64

▶ Play video

Or this one?

[north hamlet]

depends on what games you usually enjoy

the former definitely has nicer looking ratings though

as well as lower cost

[raven harbor]

FPX is such a better name for that genre than walking sim

[serene tulip]

<- my SDV character

[wide ember]

considering still there I feel like Adrift would match you more, mantra

[hasty kernel]

Idk

FPX doesnt tell me anything really

Walking Simulator tells me more

[raven harbor]

It's funny how little some genre names mean without knowledge of where the nomenclature came from

[fervent zenith]

Wasn't walking Simulator a name coined by people that disliked the genre? @raven harbor

If someone wants to play a space game centered more on shooting and flying let me present you EverSpace, a THE LIST(TM) certified game

Imagine a FTL-Roguelite but you control the spaceship yourself

Getting resources fighting bad guys and running away from a constant threat

On the other hand if you want an experience much closer to FTL, play Crying Suns, another THE LIST (TM) certified game

Where you fight on a tactical grid sending ships and putting turrets and traps

[hasty kernel]

Originally, yes

But it was arguably reclaimed

And now it describes a more atmospheric type of game with less focus on gameplay mechanics and more on basic exploration, atmosphere and storytelling

[fervent zenith]

I still pity the creators of the genre as we know it

The guys from Dear Esther

Their two next games kinda sucked

Now people remember more gone Home as the precursor

[raven harbor]

It's still used in a derogatory manner pretty often

[fervent zenith]

It doesn't help now walking Simulators do more than walk while a narrator on a soft voice begins talking with flowery language about inconsequential things

The genre has thankfully grown

With visuals, puzzles varied scenery and Making the narrator part of the experience

And the POV

[raven harbor]

Although I suppose film genres have the same issues of not making sense outside the context

[fervent zenith]

We need more Stanley Parable and What Remains of Edith Finches and less Raptures and Among the Sleep

Rime and Moon of Madness were also great

[raven harbor]

I thought people liked Among the Sleep

[fervent zenith]

I appreciated Gone Home but sadly is dated now

[raven harbor]

I'm trying to think if I've even played a strict walking sim

[fervent zenith]

In the 'Seinfeld is Unfunny' way

[raven harbor]

Like maybe Stanley Parable once?

[fervent zenith]

As everything Gone has done a lot of newer games gave outdone better with the years

And what before it's innovative now it's an old Hat

Crazy Times tho

Do you remember guys the Gone Home Controversy?

The fact the game was 20 bucks despite being only an hour long?

Now that's something from the past

I actually played a game this year that reminded me a ton to Gone Home

Including sprawling building, secret passages, constant tension, unraveling story. Didn't make me cry but it gave me goosebumps and I cant understate how BRUTAL the ending is

The Suicide of Rachel Forster

[flat prism]

Wasn't there a time where 80% of new Indies were basically "gone home, but insert something here"

[fervent zenith]

Well, there were a time were there was a drought of indies

Anyone here saw Indie game: The Movie?

[flat prism]

It's on my watch list

Are we talking the indiepocalypse?

I think the market has somewhat recovered from that

[fervent zenith]

Now thanks to cheap and accessible tools making Indies is much easier

Oh and Kickstarter

[flat prism]

Ugh Kickstarter

[fervent zenith]

I should play The Broken Age

K have been skipping on it during years

There was the Auteur Indie era

Where there were names of idea guys who created unique and wonderful indie games

Tim Schafer, Jonathan Blow, Notch, Phil Fish

[flat prism]

Isn't Kojima considered an auteur

[fervent zenith]

Now people now studios not people

Yeah but he is a triple AAA one

[flat prism]

Hm

I find it a little 2 sided

I mean

"a hideo Kojima game" is basically a signature now

But like, what about the other 100+ people that worked on the game

[fervent zenith]

The artist is also known

[flat prism]

This isn't the movie industry where you just slap a director and actor names on the front

Though we're seeing that happen as well

I mean, I could make a really crappy game

But if I had the cash to get Troy baker or it

It would sell at least some copies

[fervent zenith]

Yoji shinkawa and Hayter are also iconic to mgs tho

[flat prism]

Remember that game that got Shinkawa

It ended up being crap

[fervent zenith]

Left alive

[flat prism]

Yes

I wanted to get the game at one point just for the cool art

Glad I didn't

[fervent zenith]

His art is so unique that I instantly knew it was his

[flat prism]

Speaking of indies

Have you seen how many get released on steam per day

Not even week or month

[fervent zenith]

Shovelware most of them

[flat prism]

An average of 40 games get on steam per day

I mean sure but you're still competing

It's a bit worrying as a dev

[fervent zenith]

That's why good marketing is game

[flat prism]

Mhm

Also art

A crappy game that looks great is going to get many more retweets than a solid game that's just basic shapes

Unless you have some really, really creative gameplay idea, you need art

Do people retweet music? Probably not

[fervent zenith]

Look at Furi

Look at its ost

Looks at the MILLIONS of views each track has

[raven harbor]

Fwiw, Indie Game: The Movie is a really solid documentary

[ivory mirage]

Do people retweet music? Probably not
@flat prism They do actually! a lot

Music is also a very big factor for some games

[flat prism]

Hmmmm

Oh yea furi

Welp

I can't do art, my coding is still not good

But the one thing I can do half well

[ivory mirage]

A good example would be Doom 2016, even though it's not an indie game I can assure the game would not have reached the success it reached without the soundtrack

[flat prism]

MICK GORDON

BFG DIVISION

[ivory mirage]

Mick gordon carried Doom 2016/eternal

[flat prism]

DUNDUNDUN

Hmm

Real talk though

I'm currently trying to write a few tracks as practice and I honestly have no idea what to make

Since the team is currently trying to figure out what to make

Was thinking covering some ssg stuff but eh that's been done before

Portfolio is needed as any creative artist but put what in it

[faint panther]

I wouldn't say Mick carried Doom, but it's just more credence to the claim that every part of a product must be excellent for it to reach masterpiece status.

[raven harbor]

I wouldn't say they couldn't have done it without Mick, but I don't know who else would be able to take that specific spot\

If that makes sense

[faint panther]

Yeah, I agree.

[raven harbor]

Shame that whole mess happened

Well, both messes

[flat prism]

It's Bethesda what do you expect

[faint panther]

It would go down as just a really really good shooter, very mechanically solid, but the OST of 2016 pushed its entire atmosphere and package into outer space.

I haven't done much (read: any) digging, but the issue was supposed to be between Mick and id.

[raven harbor]

On the Mick thing, both sides of that made mistakes and did things the wrong way

[faint panther]

Bethesda doesn't have anything to do with this mess.

[fervent zenith]

Also Fez

The cutest and the perspective went wonders

[flat prism]

Bethesda did ruin eternal though

[fervent zenith]

Also Minecraft had unique music

The composer was very talented

[flat prism]

Post launch is a disaster rn

[raven harbor]

id shouldn't have overpromised and Mick should have compromised somewhere in order to deliver, or at least made his intentions clear

[flat prism]

It was alright at launch but they had to F it up

[faint panther]

I'm happy I dodged it now, Cygnus.

[raven harbor]

It's still a good game, but yeah

Denuvo ruins yet another thing

[flat prism]

Why are people buying AAA again?

[fervent zenith]

MGS also has Shinkawa art and some iconic tracks

||SNAAAAAAAKE EATEEEEER||

[raven harbor]

To be fair, it was good on launch

[flat prism]

Most of it is half baked messes that ride on a name

[raven harbor]

Outstanding, even

[fervent zenith]

Depends of the developer

[faint panther]

Most gamers aren't discerning, honestly.

[fervent zenith]

I have faith Rockstar will deliver for example

[flat prism]

Most gamers aren't even aware of how a game is made lmfao

[raven harbor]

Also yeah, there are few, but definitely a couple, AAA devs I still trust with my dollar

[faint panther]

You have some AAA devs that consistently deliver a quality product befitting their budget and manpower.

[flat prism]

Yea rockstar, the studio that's been making the same game for 20 years now

[faint panther]

Nintendo, Capcom (in the last 3 years).

[flat prism]

Sure I enjoyed rdr2

Nice stort and all

[fervent zenith]

I mean that's Ubisoft

[flat prism]

But it doesn't get a lot or creative points from me

[raven harbor]

I need to find a used copy of RDR2 so I can figure out just how much time of mine it wants to waste

[flat prism]

As much as you let it

[faint panther]

No, RDR2 is Rockstar.

Oh, making the same...

[raven harbor]

As in I don't like what I've heard about animation lengths

[faint panther]

Got it, my bad.

[fervent zenith]

I was talking about the 20 years making the same game

[flat prism]

If you just do the story and nothing else idk 10-15 hours?

[raven harbor]

Although I don't really care for 3real5me gritty cowboy, so

[faint panther]

I kinda feel like Activision has been making the same game longer than Ubisoft has.

[raven harbor]

You know what's a stellar cowboy game? Call of Juarez: Gunslinger

[flat prism]

Albino the rockstar game structure has remained the same: open world, go to letter on map for mission, some side stuff

Overall satire in GTA and Bully

Cars or horses

A really narrow story gameplay

[gaunt valley]

Who cares about story when you can blow up things and wreak havoc?

[flat prism]

Ubi was doing ok-ish until 4-unity

[faint panther]

See, I quit on 3, then heard 4 was better but never picked the series back up.

I do remember Unity being a low.

[flat prism]

As much as I liked ezio and Connor, personal stories wasn't rly the focus of AC1

[raven harbor]

I honestly never really liked AC

[flat prism]

Imo 1 is the best game

[faint panther]

I enjoy 1 more, but 2 is the better game.

[flat prism]

Which in and of itself isn't that good either

[gaunt valley]

Animal Crossing?

[raven harbor]

Assassin's Creed

[flat prism]

Origins up to now it's literally witcher's creed

Odyssey is absolute cringe to play as a greek

The voicelines alone make me wanna go to Montpellier and find the writers responsible

[gaunt valley]

Why?

[flat prism]

It's cringe

Like, a lot

[gaunt valley]

I got that, but why?

[flat prism]

Haha let's use the word Μαλάκα a million times

It's really bad use of the greek language

[gaunt valley]

Are they using modern Greek?

[flat prism]

iirc yes

[gaunt valley]

That's weird.

[flat prism]

Ancient Greek is pretty much another language

[gaunt valley]

Because we never learned malakka in our (ancient) Greek lessons.

[flat prism]

It's a modern word

[gaunt valley]

I assumed.

[fervent zenith]

What about Kingdom Come?

[flat prism]

It's basically a curse word that's often used to refer to each other without malicious meaning

[gaunt valley]

Like kurwa I guess.

[flat prism]

much like another word with a much worse racial context

[raven harbor]

Kingdom Come was not something I heard positive things about

[flat prism]

Eeh I'm fed up with medieval games personally

If I want high fantasy I'll just play dnd

[fervent zenith]

I played one hour after getting it free

Seems unique and interesting to me

[gaunt valley]

I wanna play a bronze era babylon rpg.

Or some sort of that.

[flat prism]

I used to like open world games but now they just seem like a hassle

[raven harbor]

I want AAA games to remember how to use non-muted colors

[fervent zenith]

@gaunt valley Tyranny

[flat prism]

Pfffff

[fervent zenith]

It's Bronze era

[flat prism]

Good like w that lionheart

[gaunt valley]

Is it on Steam? @fervent zenith

[flat prism]

It's still 2011

[fervent zenith]

Yes

[raven harbor]

I looked at Diablo 4 screenshots and stuff and I was like, appalled

[fervent zenith]

Just take it a look first

[gaunt valley]

I will look into it.

[flat prism]

If it's not 50 shades of grey and brown it's not a game for grownups

[fervent zenith]

Outer worlds?

It's shiny and bright

[gaunt valley]

Thx for the recommendation.

[flat prism]

Outer worlds is ex obsidian Devs iirc

[raven harbor]

Outer Worlds is filed under AA I think?

[flat prism]

Think so

Guess what else Bethesda has ruined

[fervent zenith]

Fair 'nuff

[raven harbor]

It's also okay but not great imo, but is very colorful and well-designed

[flat prism]

Obsidian's writing

[raven harbor]

Visually at least

[fervent zenith]

If you want some colored and AA Eurojank play Elex

||THE LIST(TM) certified||

[flat prism]

I stick to colourful games

Hades is vibrant

Banner Saga has a nice pallete

[raven harbor]

I'm just tired of shooting for photorealism every single time

[fervent zenith]

The new GoW was pretty Vibrant gotta say

[flat prism]

Hell even Yakuza games are more colourful

[raven harbor]

Banner Saga is gorgeous and I hate that I can't play it

[flat prism]

Mood

[fervent zenith]

Despite God of War trilogy being brown af

[flat prism]

God I hate photorealism

[raven harbor]

I need to get my hands on Dad of Boy

[flat prism]

It's actually the most unimaginative thing

[raven harbor]

Horizon Zero Dawn as well

[flat prism]

If you think about it

Horizon is nice

[raven harbor]

Honestly I don't care about the look, I just want things to age well

[flat prism]

I've left it at some place

Prince of Persia 1

[raven harbor]

Like look at how pretty Okami still looks

[flat prism]

For the apple II

[north hamlet]

stylised definitely ages better

[flat prism]

Those animations still hold up

[north hamlet]

realism can always improve

[flat prism]

No realism is just boring

[fervent zenith]

The Last of Us is ironically pretty colorful

[north hamlet]

realism is also edgy and uninspired

[flat prism]

The last of us benefits from realism

Because it's actual acting

And motion cap

And the writing and actors are S tier

[raven harbor]

The clickers and stuff have actually interesting designs too

At least in the realm of zombie fiction

[north hamlet]

yeah it's a good thing when it suits the piece

[flat prism]

But most games that use it?

[fervent zenith]

Yeah but it's also bright and blue

[flat prism]

Control?

Haven't played it

[fervent zenith]

Also Borderlands

[faint panther]

I've heard by far more good things about Control than bad.

[fervent zenith]

Control is great at times

[flat prism]

But from what little I've seen some particle effect wouldn't hurt

[raven harbor]

Control I've heard good things about the story and tepid things about the plot

[fervent zenith]

It has one of the best sequences in gaming

[flat prism]

Huh

I'll get to buying it at some point

[fervent zenith]

Mirror's Edge is also as bright as one game can be

[flat prism]

Me is among my all time faves

[fervent zenith]

Yeah same

[flat prism]

And imo both games haven't fully tapped the potential of the franchise

[raven harbor]

RE2make and by extension RE3 are games I think benefit from shooting for a more realistic look

I was blown away by that first clip of like, looking at the jaw in 2

[flat prism]

Re2make was great

Re3make???

Pfff

It got made and published in less than a year

[fervent zenith]

Seeing the zombie need 6 shots to the head to die

[flat prism]

Figure out the rest

[fervent zenith]

They made zombies scary again

[raven harbor]

It's worked before, but not in this case

[fervent zenith]

Anyone here played Days Gone to give an opinion?

[flat prism]

Re3make was just a cashgrab

[raven harbor]

I'm a bit concerned about 4, but not that much, since 4 classic is still entirely playable and good

[flat prism]

It could use some polishing

[raven harbor]

Like it's definitely a game from 2004

[flat prism]

cough QTEs on professional cough

[fervent zenith]

I just want real Spanish actors for 4

[raven harbor]

I think that's just a PC issue

[flat prism]

I played on both

[raven harbor]

Running at 60 makes the QTEs harder

[faint panther]

I find the tank controls in 4 unbearable now.

[flat prism]

You need absurd speed

Though riddle me this

[raven harbor]

I did my first professional run last month and those endgame areas do not hold up on that difficulty

[flat prism]

We've gotten to the point where we're more excited for remakes of old games rather than new ones

I mean, I'm hyped for THPS

And I played the crap out of the spyro remake

But is this really where AAA is going?

[faint panther]

I don't think so.

[raven harbor]

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug

[fervent zenith]

Resident Evil 7 tho

I loved it

[raven harbor]

RE7 is pretty good

[faint panther]

RE8 has a lot of pretty amazing ground to build itself off now.

[raven harbor]

I wish there were more enemy types but still real good

[fervent zenith]

Like it has merit people loved it despite not really being a RE game

[raven harbor]

I'm amazed at how well the RE engine is handling everything

[flat prism]

I just want to see more originality from AAA, they definitely have the resources and senior staff to pull it off

[faint panther]

Resident Evil has reinvented itself 2 or 3 times now.

[raven harbor]

RE7 is more of an RE game than half the numbered entries lol

[faint panther]

Cygnus, you're asking for artistic intentions in a brutally capitalist system.

[raven harbor]

Little less than half, depending on how you feel about 4

[fervent zenith]

Hellblade is Triple A?

[flat prism]

It's indie on AAA budget

Small team, big bucks

[raven harbor]

Ninja Theory usually does good work

[flat prism]

I enjoyed Heavenly sword and Enslaved

[fervent zenith]

I think the biggest 'Indie' Studio is IN THEORY Gearbox

[flat prism]

They have a history of making good combat systems

Ngl

[faint panther]

I'd really like DMC5 Vergil DLC.

[flat prism]

Even hellblade combat is sick

[raven harbor]

Yeah I'm surprised that didn't happen

DMC5 is cool as hell

[fervent zenith]

Remember when NT trolled us with the permanent Death lie?

[faint panther]

Judgment Cut End in the RE Engine? Sweet merciful Neptune.

[flat prism]

It worked for me though

It really gets you in that psychological stress

[raven harbor]

Hey maybe give Platinum some big bucks

Make some game that stars like

A dude and his dragon or something

[flat prism]

Platinum is a double edged sword

[faint panther]

RIP

I did love Nier Automata.

[raven harbor]

Still mad about that

[flat prism]

Either something great, or something the opposite of great

[fervent zenith]

TMNT flashbacks

[faint panther]

I need to play Vanquish on PC.

[flat prism]

Vanquish is mad underrated

[raven harbor]

I'd argue Platinum has like, one or two bad games, a few tepid entries, and the rest are knockouts

[fervent zenith]

I had it og in ps3

[raven harbor]

The actual bad ones being TMNT and Star Fox Zero

[flat prism]

Eh

[raven harbor]

Korra is Fine, especially at the budget it released at

[fervent zenith]

RIP Scalebound

[flat prism]

Speaking of Platinum and Japanese studios

Nintendo's doing ok

They're not reinventing the wheel in any form

[raven harbor]

Nintendo has such good ideas but are so held back by being like, afraid of online things

[flat prism]

Splatoon is a relatively new IP right

Compared to the boomer mario and Zelda at least

[fervent zenith]

Nintendo had the luck also of hiring early some of the biggest geniuses in gaming ever

[faint panther]

BotW2 could be the (kill me) breath of fresh air we've all been waiting on for years.

[raven harbor]

Even look at like BotW and Odyssey, though

[fervent zenith]

Zelda playable in canon dreams

[raven harbor]

The cap movement feels so good and BotW is absurdly well done

[fervent zenith]

Like. Isn't Miyamoto the most iconic gaming figure ever?

[raven harbor]

Depends, he's certainly up there

[flat prism]

Depends on the audience

Japan? Def

America? Up there

[raven harbor]

And also if you want good iconic or just notable

[fervent zenith]

Nintendo also had most of the most known and iconic videogame Mascots

Mario, Link and Pikachu

[flat prism]

You mean overmilked cows

[raven harbor]

I think they have the only mascots at this point lol

[fervent zenith]

Sonic left for the Ace

[flat prism]

Nintendo is the Disney of the gaming world

[raven harbor]

Except maybe the Chief

[fervent zenith]

And Sonic lol

Say what you want about the games Sonic is larger than life

[faint panther]

Nathan Drake.

[raven harbor]

I mean, I guess

[flat prism]

I thought we were talking Devs

But yea Nate is husband material

[faint panther]

Never said he was a good mascot.

[raven harbor]

I do love it when Nintendo tackles new IPs

Like Splatoon and ARMS

[flat prism]

Ikr

[faint panther]

Cadence of Hyrule was awesome.

[raven harbor]

That's another good point, I also love that they're starting to let outside devs do new things with their classics

[flat prism]

The money off the set in stone franchises goes to new ideas

[raven harbor]

Like Cadence and Mario vs Rabbids

[flat prism]

The west just goes haha no new IP for over a decade go brr

[faint panther]

Indies support the integrity of the west.

Supergiant, Team Cherry.

[flat prism]

Sadly a lot of countries don't play indies

[gaunt valley]

Does Japan even have indies?

[flat prism]

cough Greece cough

They do actually

[fervent zenith]

Yes

Switch mostly tho

[gaunt valley]

Ouf.

[flat prism]

But yea Greece is basically 4-5 games

[gaunt valley]

Not interested.

[raven harbor]

Inti-Creates is Japan-based

[flat prism]

The national game would probably be FIFA

If that doesn't show the degeneracy of this country when it comes to games

[raven harbor]

Actually Cave Story came from Japan, so they've been in there since the beginning

[fervent zenith]

Also I actually played two great indie games from China last year

Unheard and Hardcore Mecha

[flat prism]

Wasnt there some chinese horror game that got almost pulled from steam for mocking the prime minister

[gaunt valley]

You mean Winnie the Pooh?

[flat prism]

Yea

[fervent zenith]

Unheard is actually a good recommendation if you like mystery experimental games

[flat prism]

Oooooh

I remember what that is

Yea I've it wishlisted

[gaunt valley]

Looked into Tyranny btw, unfortunately not 1st person and too magical.

[fervent zenith]

Understandable

[flat prism]

The general picture of the decade so far when it comes to games is : AAA is falling further down the hole, and indies are pushing the industry forward

[gaunt valley]

Are sales declining?

For AAA?

[fervent zenith]

Also Double AA's

[flat prism]

Creativity definitely is declining

Having to resort to remaking older games to turn a profit

[gaunt valley]

Well that's a common theme in all cultural industries.

[flat prism]

Management is getting worse as well

cough Bethesda cough

[raven harbor]

Every big name company and most smaller ones have some absurd levels of crunch and it's uh, not good

Not to say crunch didn't used to be a problem, mind

It's just a lot more visible now

[flat prism]

There's been some marginal improvement on crunch

[fervent zenith]

Reminder last year was Telltale's catastrophic fail

[flat prism]

But if you want an example of crappy management, TLOU2

[gaunt valley]

What do you mean by crunch?

[fervent zenith]

Probably the second biggest of the Millenia

Overworking

[gaunt valley]

Ah, okay.

[flat prism]

Telltale actually managed to saturate the market where they were the only competitor

[faint panther]

As a deadline approaches, just a metric crapton of overtime.

[flat prism]

Also crappy management

[raven harbor]

It sucks, because the last couple of Telltale works were actually starting to get really good

Batman Season 2 was wonderful

[flat prism]

Management

When you get boomers that haven't played a game as CEOs what do you expect

Or any CEO with no experience in the games industry

[gaunt valley]

They have an MBA, they know everything.

[fervent zenith]

Also their engine was horrible

The only serious competitor Telltale had was the LiS guys

[raven harbor]

Yeah talk about bleeding an engine dry

[flat prism]

Technical issues can be resolved if you throw enough money at it, can't say the same for management

[fervent zenith]

Actually almost no money needed LMAO it was pure ego

[raven harbor]

I don't know if that or whatever shambling husk Fallout is running is worse

[fervent zenith]

Their trick to salvation was as simply as ||Buy an Unity license||

[flat prism]

That led to 200 people becoming unemployed overnight with no heads-up and no compensation

People with kids to feed

Sure, layoffs happen a lot in the industry it's no secret

But that was especially sh*tty

[raven harbor]

I've been finding myself enjoying games like Return of the Obra Dinn and Outer Wilds more often than other stuff nowadays tbh

[flat prism]

Yakuza 0 has been fun as well

It's a minor exception of AAA keeping its character without being monotone over the years

[fervent zenith]

I'm juggling 7 games at the time

[flat prism]

Lmao same

Though mostly playing Hades and yakuza

[raven harbor]

I just wrapped up Jedi: Fallen Order, and I'm working on Blasphemous and Nier

[gaunt valley]

Guns of Icarus Online, GTA V and FE Awakening it is for me.

[raven harbor]

Good to hear Guns of Icarus is still up and running

[gaunt valley]

It is lovely.

[fervent zenith]

-Troubleshooter
-Resonance Of Fate
-Grand Guilds
-Edge Of Eternity chapter 5
-Celestian Tales 2
-Apex Legends
-And R6

[raven harbor]

It's always sad when online servers for online-only games go offline

[gaunt valley]

The community is going through a minor renaissance.

[raven harbor]

Like Hawken, or MAG

[fervent zenith]

Guns of Icarus was my jam

I may come back to it

[gaunt valley]

I dunno if they're gonna shut down the servers soon.

We can fly together.

[flat prism]

Mine are

[gaunt valley]

Let's make a Hades Off topic clan, bois and gals.

[fervent zenith]

Hades I'm in hiatus tho

Because it usually sucks up too much time

[flat prism]

-hades
-yakuza 0
-banner saga 1
-hellblade
-spyro reignited 3

[fervent zenith]

So I'm leaving it aside until next update

[raven harbor]

Hawken was a solid little mech shooter that ran into monetization issues later on, and MAG was the first attempt at 128v128 shooters on the console

[velvet fjord]

yoooo Hawken

I played so much of that

then it changed hands a bunch of times

[fervent zenith]

Same

[raven harbor]

Real Talk I just want another attempt at MAG

[velvet fjord]

I don't think I ever even used any other mech than the Recruit one

[raven harbor]

I bet it would do real well on modern PCs

[flat prism]

Welp

Time for me to sleep

[gaunt valley]

sleep well

[flat prism]

I have exams in 1 month yet I'm staying up late and playing hades

[fervent zenith]

You know? My favourite MP games is where you and your team coordinate to man an enormous war-machine

[flat prism]

Aaaaaa

[fervent zenith]

Guns of Icarus ships games, et al

[gaunt valley]

Are there more of that sort?

GoI is the only one I know that goes into this direction.

[fervent zenith]

Yes, there was a ship naval combat Game

Pretty good

[gaunt valley]

What's the name?

[fervent zenith]

Can't remember the name rn

Gimme a sec

Blackwake

[gaunt valley]

Hmm, pirates... I like Steampunk more.

But I'll put it on my wishlist.

[fervent zenith]

Mmh, what about C'Thulu punk?

Barotrauma is a coop hardcore submarine Game

With traitors and Eldritch abominations

Where there is a dozen of subroles to take on MASSIVE (or not so massive) submarines

[gaunt valley]

That sounds intense. Usually we fail at coordinating 4 people already 😄

[fervent zenith]

It is, but cool as heck

[gaunt valley]

If you wanna fly Icarus again, we will most likely take off coming Friday or Saturday.

[fervent zenith]

Basically there are six classes: Officer, mechanic, engineer, security, doctor and Intern

[true tiger]

oh bro i forgot barothuma existed

does it still have a good player base?

[fervent zenith]

Think so

I actually followed the Creator since SCP: Containment Breach days

[fervent zenith]

God, I'm exhausted

[serene tulip]

how to work out without ruminating?

[gaunt valley]

Hear a podcast in the meantime.

[fervent zenith]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/906100/Observation/

Steam

Observation

Observation is a sci-fi thriller uncovering what happened to Dr. Emma Fisher, and the crew of her mission, through the lens of the station’s artificial intelligence S.A.M. Players assume the role of S.A.M. by operating the station’s control systems, cameras, and tools to assis...

Metacritic

79

Release Date

May 21, 2020

▶ Play video

This one is great too

[serene tulip]

let 👏🏾 me 👏🏾 buy 👏🏾 Linus 👏🏾 a 👏🏾 Good 👏🏾 Winter 👏🏾 Coat!

[wide ember]

yes please

though knowing Linus he'll have trouble accepting it

[fervent zenith]

Which Iinus? Tech Tips or Torvalds?

[wide ember]

the homeless guy Linus, unfortunately

you see, the cost of living in silicon valley is way too high

(the Linus we are talking about: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Linus)

[fervent zenith]

Ok, just understand out of context is difficult to know lmao

[chrome island]

@proud flicker I looked up some doom speedruns like u said. It seems they use glitches to skip the entire map?

[proud flicker]

Yup

That's speedrunning for you.

Also there is a debate on whether or not mouse scroll wheels are allowed in the game.

[raven harbor]

It's actually super interesting how this whole thing is being approached

[chrome island]

I was expecting a doom speedrun to show me optimzied strategies of clearing enemies and what guns etc but it's just not interesting because the gameplay doesn't even matter and it's more about skipping the map

and using mouse wheel to create inhuman inputs

[raven harbor]

There might be some glitchless ones floating around

[proud flicker]

Yeah. So that's why there are categories

You can Google Glitch less or 100% run

Which are more or less "spirit of the game" runs

The one where people can use bugs or glitches are usually called Any%

Basically you go fast

[raven harbor]

Eternal is a particularly drastic example on the level of like, OoT

[proud flicker]

That's it.

You. Go. Fast.

[chrome island]

it just doesn't seem like an actual "speedrun" game

[proud flicker]

One of the best speedrun that is fun to watch instead of a glitch fest

[raven harbor]

Civ VI is down to 284 milliseconds

[chrome island]

Monster hunter for example is a "speedrun" game. Doom is just trying to do a speedrun into a game that doesn't have the mode or capabiities

[proud flicker]

Is Celeste

Celeste speedruns are a joy to watch since the game is simple enough while the glitches are not as game breaking as others.

Routing and optimization play a much bigger role.

[raven harbor]

I think most of the runs done at AGDQ are pretty entertaining, when they're held up by good commentary

The only bad one I've seen was someone running MGRR who for some reason hates the game

[proud flicker]

I agree.

I love AGDQ

But there are always bad apples

[raven harbor]

I think there's a big difference between going for time and going for entertainment, and only occasionally do they line up

[proud flicker]

AGDQ runs are usually really awesome or a cringe fest.

TAS runs with good commentary are really nice too

[raven harbor]

I think about the only actual tip I've picked up from a speedrun is that fully charged Rising Fire one-hits Sigma's first form in X4

[proud flicker]

Celeste TAS run is my favorite GDQ moment.

Oh God thank you for reminding me of X4

That's my childhood game.

[raven harbor]

It's for sure my favorite in the X series

And probably the whole franchise

And imo the best entry of the X series

[proud flicker]

I should play it again. I remember being stuck at the stupid Mushroom stage forever

[raven harbor]

Very close to 1

Legacy Collection is like, manageably decent

There's some quirks that I didn't run into but some people have had

[proud flicker]

Also which one is the one with the legendary What am I living for?

[raven harbor]

Like you can't rebind keyboard controls

[proud flicker]

Oh it's is X4

Lol

[raven harbor]

Also the insistence on using those absurd smear filters to make sprites look vectorized

Toggleable, thankfully, but on by default

[proud flicker]

Wait they try to apply a filter for X4?

[raven harbor]

Let me grab a screenshot

[sudden torrent]

I love Fallout Anthology run this winter's GDQ

[proud flicker]

Is that the modern Fallout or the old school strategy ones?

[sudden torrent]

all

fallout 1-4 and New Vegas.

[raven harbor]

https://imgur.com/a/qUrskTw

[proud flicker]

Lol

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised they use he filter emulators uses.

This looks like an xBR filter slapped on top of the original art.

[raven harbor]

It's pretty popular with the Final Fantasy ports too

[proud flicker]

Well at least it is a toggle.

Thanks for the pic though

[rustic pawn]

hi!

so is there some sort of rule against DMing a dev? I'd like to ask for some tips on making isometric games like SG usually does

I don't see anything in #readme-first but I don't wanna be rude, either

[sudden torrent]

well there is always #ask-supergiant maybe there is something there

or you can wait for another one of these session to pop up and ask said question!

[rustic pawn]

I wonder if it'd get too technical tho

'cos Q&As are usually for players to ask the devs, but I don't know if it's typical for a dev to ask one of their devs

(I never really went to any Q&As myself so I'm honestly not sure)

[upbeat scroll]

you can see the history of the qna's in the channel

there's a couple development questions, they're not unwatned

[prisma sparrow]

Hi everybody!

[fervent zenith]

Lmao UNO is rn a top selling game on Steam

[hidden siren]

Hej man dont knock the spanish

[fervent zenith]

I'm from there lol

Next year that game makes 50 LMAO

[rustic pawn]

welcome

[serene tulip]

My job is about to open up again 😄

[fringe sparrow]

I'm so tired of my connection. The quarantine doesnt allow me to do anything when I go back from work. Sites load for a 1-2min. And its not even 1mbit. 😭 Sad story when the only way to have internet is LTe....

[true tiger]

so i just found this kickstarter game, that actually has a demo
"Vernal Edge"
feels like a 2d version of DMC in terms of combat, with a little bit of symphony of the night in there

super good ngl

hope it gets funded tbh

[tender cobalt]

I'm indecisive about what to play now. Where's Albino when you need them?

[sharp grail]

what are you thinking about playing?

[tender cobalt]

I have these in mind: For the King, Civilization 6, Age of Wonders 3, Halo or Heroes of the Storm

And since I can't decide, I was thinking of someone picking one for me

[sharp grail]

hmm, honestly, ive only played hots before for overwatch skins LOL

[tender cobalt]

Just like my brother haha

[sharp grail]

but ive heard of for the king! it looks cute

[tender cobalt]

He was like "please help me get these OW skins" and I was like "Okay. I will also enjoy our sibling time together"

It is charming in its own way

It was free on Epic Games Store a couple of weeks ago, actually

Did you manage to get it?

[sharp grail]

oh i havent gotten the free egs games for a while now

i dont remember, i mightve

[tender cobalt]

Aw, well, I think it's also available for Remote Play on Steam

[sharp grail]

ever since i stopped needing it for hades i dont rlly think about EGS so i forget about the giveaways

i have way too many games to play anyway

[tender cobalt]

I know that feeling too well

I'm trying to not look at spoilers of Pokemon Shield because, it's laying there in my cabinet, but I haven't played it yet

Maybe I should start playing that

[hasty kernel]

Play Crosscode

[tender cobalt]

Oh wow, what's this? I just saw that Gwent was just released today on Steam. I thought it was available already

[hasty kernel]

Apparently not on steam

[tender cobalt]

I love card games so I might give it a shot too

But, I am at its store page right now

I guess they just released it now?

[hasty kernel]

On steam, yeah

I think it was GoG only beforehand

[hexed hollow]

What is gwent like? I've only really heard about it but never played it

[tender cobalt]

I don't know much about it but it seemed like a fun card game in Witcher 3. You have to amass a bigger force than your opponent using siege units, spies, brawlers, etc. Whoever is stronger at the end of a round, wins! And there are 3 rounds, I think

[urban robin]

Gwent's a lot bigger and better than in Wild Hunt. Very complex, lots of possible decks and strategies - but you can still win as a complete noob with a starter deck, albeit less often.

[haughty fog]

card games are not really my thing in gaming (except in The Witcher 3 admittedly) but if you're interested there is not only Gwent - i'm glad to learn its on Steam now - there's also Thronebreaker which is basically the single campaign mode of Gwent

it's said to be a very good game in itself

i'm told if you get it on GoG you get some kind of free stuff in it, but otherwise it's on Steam

[chilly briar]

I've thought about starting witcher 3 a few times

but it's so huge that it kind of puts me off in a weird way lol

I watched a stream of it and the amount of quests broken by bugs is upsetting lol

[haughty fog]

nah, I played it 200 hours without any bug

it's a big story, true

[desert wadi]

gwent has a phone version, so you can always just install it for when there's waiting involved in cooking or smth

[flat prism]

i haven't had any issues with quests, and i've never heard of people talking about quest bugs

there is one quest in a one off area where you can win cards for the get all gwent cards quest and if you dont get them then and there (and the npc has a beast deck) you fail the get all cards quest which is annoying

scale wise, i feel like you can shave the length of the game by a ton if you simply go point a > point b for the story

a lot of my hours were just screwing around with the side quests (which are all great btw)

the game is about as buggy as any large scale rpg you'll find

it's on sale for 9 bucks on steam iirc @chilly briar (sorry for pinging ik you're mod)

tldr if you're the kind of person to take their sweet old time with a game witcher 3 could be for you

on the subject of looong storylines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZLROqARRXo

[haughty fog]

witcher 3 is really about the story, when the story was over it became very difficult for me to finish the last DLC

it still is, btw, i haven't finished

[flat prism]

i liked the swordfights

the potion system is a little monotone/undermined

unless you play on some really hard difficulty where they're essential but still you have to farm for them etc

[raven harbor]

I still need to give W3 a shot to see if I go 3/3 on being wholly unimpressed by the franchise/studio

[haughty fog]

its not on the same level with the previous games

[raven harbor]

I've heard it's scores better than 1 and 2, which is good

[haughty fog]

You've heard the truth then

:p

[flat prism]

how did you slog through witcher 1

that game has aged rather horribly

[haughty fog]

i didn't

[flat prism]

i have around 20something hours

[haughty fog]

didn't finish w2 either

[flat prism]

haven't beaten it

yea it's a bit too old rpg for me

i got 2 as well on a whim since it was on sale

my backlog of games is ever increasing...

[haughty fog]

as ours

[flat prism]

i'm currently playing well, hades

and yakuza 0

yakuza 0 is fun but another 80+ hour game

[haughty fog]

i laughed a lot watching someone play yakuza 0 but i'm not that interested in playing myself

looks story rich yea

[hidden siren]

ive played 80 hours of yakuza 0 and im about to reach chapter 2 :o

jk

[haughty fog]

Nice

[flat prism]

oof

i'm at around 30 hours in

and chapter 7

and i still haven't unlocked all the possible side things

and it doesn't feel artificially bloated either, and there's no collectathon types (well, only 1 but it's not that bad the maps are rather small)

it's basicall like this

story: japanese drama about the underworld crime scene in 80s Japan, very serious

literally any sidequest that isn't directly attached to the story:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y6WMx8uik

[serene tulip]

blerg

I made a joke that upset a friend of mine and now I'm sad

[exotic latch]

What was the joke?

[serene tulip]

We're friends with benefits, as it were, and I made an implication that I only deal with them for sex for the sake of alliteration

[haughty fog]

lmao i like your summary

@flat prism

oh, well played oceloctopus

you could still offer a reconciliatory sex sesh

[serene tulip]

well part of the issue is that shelter in place is precluding that option

[haughty fog]

about Yakuza 0, yea, the story seems quite melodramatic, but the side quests...nonsensical sometimes, from what i saw a while ago

oh, right, there's still shelter. It's not great for separated couples

[hidden siren]

the side missions are what make the game fun imo

The story is good

Bruh look at cygs pfp its a guy doing the hustle in the middle of a cult

Great yakuza content

[faint panther]

"Munancho!"

[tender cobalt]

I like the idea of manly Yakuza gangs doing weird stuff like that

[faint panther]

Saw someone claim that I could launch the .exe of my Steam games directly and in doing so avoid running Steam ('cause my CPU is pushing 6 years old and having Discord open simultaneously makes me drop frames). I hope it works.

[tender cobalt]

Good luck!

[faint panther]

And Steam launched.

[tender cobalt]

Have you tried offline mode? Maybe that'd help

[faint panther]

The program running in the background is the issue.

I guess being in offline may make it less intensive.

Unfortunately, it does not help.

[strange cedar]

You can launch games from just the .exe files, but sadly only games that aren't heavily reliant on the steam client can do that

[serene tulip]

Unrelatedly, it makes me so sad that discord is so freekin' unoptomized

[hasty kernel]

It depends on the game, yeah

Some work without steam, some dont

[flat prism]

Yea discord eats up ram

[north hamlet]

what if you just had discord on your phone

[serene tulip]

Its my least favorite programming fad these days

Optimize your damn code

[tender cobalt]

It has gotten so chilly ❄️ around here that I can now enjoy hot tea pleasantly 🍵

[north hamlet]

i drink hot tea all day every day

but there is something special when it really warms you up

[tender cobalt]

You feel cozy and... "relieved" would be the way to describe it?

[north hamlet]

definitely lots of coziness

which is calming

what's your favourite kind?

[tender cobalt]

Hm... I'd say the fruity kind. Peach tea is one of my favorites hehe

I like to drink more bitter ones when I'm eating sweets though

[north hamlet]

i'm really into earl grey and similar styled teas

[tender cobalt]

I also like to drink chamomile tea during the night because I read it helps with sleep

[north hamlet]

esp the ones that are good for no milk

people say chamomile is calming

same with valerian

i'm not great with milk teas

too used to asian style

[tender cobalt]

I tried milk with tea once. It wasn't my cup of tea 🥁

If anything, I prefer to add honey to some teas I drink

Other than that, just some sugar or even just as is

[north hamlet]

not a fan of honey in tea or coffee

it's flavour is too distinct for me

is great in milk though

[tender cobalt]

Milk with honey 😮

[north hamlet]

honey cinnamon milk is good stuff

or honey malt

[tender cobalt]

It never occurred to me but I will have to try it out one day

I do have all ingredients so I will do that later during tea time ❤️

[north hamlet]

i hope you enjoy it then

[hasty kernel]

Hot milk with honey is great

Tea with honey depends on what kind of tea

Its good in mint tea, otherwise I feel it clashes

[north hamlet]

hmm mint and honey

never tried that before

[hasty kernel]

Id recommend trying it

Its pretty good

[north hamlet]

will do

[hidden siren]

Have ya tried Milk with cup noodles?

Its pretty gud

[north hamlet]

no, but i have put peanut butter in instant noodle soup before

[wide ember]

...did it taste good or bad?

[autumn pasture]

peanut butter noodles can be good, so good?

[north hamlet]

it became satay-like

so quite nice

[autumn pasture]

i wad just imagining milk in instant noodles today 🤔

[hidden siren]

Is that a south east asian i see

[mossy acorn]

i love this emoji´s

[hidden siren]

Thats how the shades got to hell

They used emojis

[mossy acorn]

yehr ^^

[tender cobalt]

(I thought that man in the picture was Grant whoops)

[raven harbor]

So I finished Blasphemous last night

It was good, didn't catch my attention like, say, Hollow Knight, but solid overall

Really good looking art, if absolutely disgusting

[hidden siren]

maybe its because its not utilizing the pixel art's charm

they made it so realistic that its kinda

not pixelart

[north hamlet]

it's intended to be gruesome as a reference to religious art right?

[hidden siren]

I assume so

Religious art being satanic gives that extra scary feeling

[north hamlet]

from what i saw of it the style was pretty on point

[hidden siren]

Its amazin

[north hamlet]

not satanic, as much as trying to scare people straight

at least that's how the mediaeval people thought of it

[hidden siren]

maybe its hitting the same spot of something thats not scary being scary makes it extra scary

like children dolls

and babies

[raven harbor]

Oh I think it looks fantastic

But disgusting

Because that's the source they're pulling from

I don't know if I'll come back and 100% it or anything but it was a good way to spend 8 hours

[north hamlet]

maybe i'll grab it next time it goes on sale

[wide ember]

has anyone here saw the new song Mili uploaded 10 hours ago

[chilly briar]

@flat prism it's okay to ping me 😛 thanks! I actually bought it years ago and just never played it because i'm

[tender cobalt]

@wide ember That's a nice song! I just saw that the game with that theme just entered early access

[wide ember]

yep, can't wait to commit murder to swing music love the library theme

usually it's a dungeon with promise of gold or power but here it's the promise of books that lures people to their doom

[true blaze]

Random question, but as someone who hasn't played any other sgg games except Hades, which one would you recommend first ? (considering i'll probably end up doing them all, but don't know where to start).

[faint panther]

Bastion or Pyre.

There's progression in design and gameplay flow through all four of their games, but most especially Bastion->Transistor->Hades, but Pyre is super unique, it's one part visual novel, one part NBA Street.

[true blaze]

Haha, well i may start with Bastion then, and we'll look into Pyre another time

[hidden siren]

Id say bastion is easier to get into

[hasty kernel]

Id also say Bastion

Because I feel Transistor is a slightly better game, so it makes more sense to save the best for last

[slim bobcat]

discord crashing in desktop

[serene tulip]

You'd think there'd be a more fanart of thesius

you can ship him with anyone and it wont die

[faint panther]

I hate Twitch Dashboard Home.

Why doesn't it just go to the Stream Manager? That's what everyone wants anyway.

[raven harbor]

I'd third Bastion > Transistor > Pyre as a play order

I think there's a natural progression of quality just due to getting used to the whole process that really becomes apparent if you like, run backwards for example

[flat prism]

Supergiant's games are like jojo parts

You kinda have to play them in succession

[glad plume]

Pyre is so good though.

[muted mortar]

Hi can i ask SUPERGIANT i know hades is in early access I look through the rules and steam I would like to know. If I am aloud to streaming hades i like to make sure that before i do just in case I miss the rule which say that i can not stream it.

[haughty fog]

you're allowed to stream Hades, as far as i know many people already stream it on Twitch, that's how i discovered the game

[muted mortar]

@haughty fog i seen some people got it up on YouTube but i did not know if there was group which aloud to do so i thought it best to check before i do but thanks anyway

[haughty fog]

you're welcome

[fervent zenith]

I'm sure SGG would love evrybody would do it

As it gets them exposure lol

And It's not like the game is buggy to put off people

[tender cobalt]

Albino! You are here!

[muted mortar]

True because i am a streamer. I know i am small only a few followers but i like to try a get on the good side of companies and because the game is in early access i thought best to be safe then sorry. Plus i can not wait to start streaming it if i can not right now then i will wait until it fully release only got it yesterday did not come off until 5 hours later lol

[fervent zenith]

@tender cobalt Ye' Why?

[tender cobalt]

I was wondering where you were, that's all

[fervent zenith]

I'm here

[fervent zenith]

Opinion of these two?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1150950/Timelie/

Steam

Timelie

Every second matters in Timelie, a stealth puzzle game that puts the power of time in your very hands. Trapped in an abstract and surreal world, a girl and a mysterious cat must work together to escape the...

Price

$17.09

▶ Play video

https://store.steampowered.com/app/789770/Starena/

Steam

Starena

Starena is a boss rush arena game with RPG elements in 3D voxel-art. Welcome to the Starena Gladiator Tournament! Mecha Reaper J3, you are the newest fighter in the roster of the most popular sports competition in the universe. The universe might be peaceful now thanks to the ...

Price

$13.49

▶ Play video

[queen rover]

a stealth puzzle game
I'm interested. I'll give that a look

[fervent zenith]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/playism_9th

Bought several from here

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1213750/Fight_Crab/

....Wat?

[tender cobalt]

Your gaming knowledge sure is unpredictable

[serene tulip]

ur face is unpredictable

(jk 💜

[north hamlet]

@hasty kernel tryin the mint honey tea

this is interesting

[hasty kernel]

It is, isnt it

[north hamlet]

goes together well in an odd way

i may have added a bit more honey than necessary since it's a bit stronger than the mint

but they both have a similar grassy taste that goes together smoothly

[hasty kernel]

Yup

[north hamlet]

i think it might be popular with people who like chamomile

[hasty kernel]

Plausible

I do like Chamomile

[serene tulip]

uuuuuuugh

People are talking about gamergate

[north hamlet]

oh no

[serene tulip]

and I feel morally obliged to argue with them as I want to make sure onlookers see what I have to say even though they're acting in bad faith

[north hamlet]

how about stating your position on the matter then calling them out on bad faith rather than arguing about it?

[fervent zenith]

'The cake is a lie' memes are less stale

[hasty kernel]

Ah yes, that mess

What the hell brought that thing back from the dead

[wide ember]

isn't it just gross when such large number of humans work together for a bad cause?

[fervent zenith]

Human_History.txt

[wide ember]

I sure hope people will gradually evolve into working together for good causes more, like better libraries, free and safe housing, etc.

imagine a day when politicians declare war and all the soldiers immediately quit and neither side fights

[exotic latch]

The thing is, human societal progress isn't linear.

[wide ember]

just start making mandolins and begin to sing

(I was just making allusions to the french song though)

[exotic latch]

Like, we didn't start fully evil and eventually evolved into working for better and better causes.

[wide ember]

Quand les hommes vivront d'amour,
Ce sera la paix sur la terre
Les soldats seront troubadours,
Mais nous nous serons morts, mon frère

^this song

[exotic latch]

Ahhh, cool.

[flat prism]

Darren just tweeted vulfpeck

God he has so much taste

[tender cobalt]

Civilization 6 is free on Epic Games Store in case anyone wants to play it 👀

If so, I'm available for online play

[fervent zenith]

I got it

Once I have 15 hours to spare I'll play a match

[tender cobalt]

Oh, it would be so lovely to play with you

[fervent zenith]

I actually got it this afternoon I just had to make the joke

[tender cobalt]

You should play some vs AI to get to know the basics before we can play. I don't mind giving tips and tricks

There's plenty of stuff the game doesn't teach you so I had to do research and listen to veterans

[slim bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187458596559257600/713160627371245598/unknown.png

epic games please

[tender cobalt]

Click on it!

It happened to me as well so I just clicked it and it appeared

I don't know why I claimed it on Epic Games Store when I already have it + dlcs on Steam but hey, it's free

[slim bobcat]

there we go

i have it now

[fervent zenith]

TFW you go to a tvtropes page of a game you thought was ok and half the page is basically roasting the game

[wide ember]

I still prefer that to when the troper is horny in almost every trope description or trying to make every single character sound like they are mentally ill

[tender cobalt]

Speaking of tvtropes, Civilization has created some of the funniest tropes there

I like Ghandi's tropes the best

[fervent zenith]

Thirstyposting is a way of life

[wide ember]

because of that trope, whenever Ghandi is in my map I try to research military first so I can nuke him

ah darn, the delay makes this sounds weird

it's as if thirtyposting over Ghandi is why I try to nuke him

[blissful charm]

i just saw this last message and not the whole conversation and it was really an unexpected ending

[fervent zenith]

Oh no a mod Hides

[blissful charm]

you're all under arrest

[wide ember]

wanna talk about the new library game

[tender cobalt]

When you read about someone wanting to nuke Ghandi but have no context. I'm dead 😂

[wide ember]

Ghandi totally betrayed me that one time, backstabbed me with giant death robots 😔 so I loaded a save and researched nuke before him

(who is @Oli4_VH? the nintendo switch giveaway announced the winner and that's the username)

(I shared the link to that giveaway so I wonder if it's someone here's account)

[tender cobalt]

Oh, that sneaky Ghandi. That's why I never trust him

He converts my cities, keeps nagging me about deterrence...

[hexed hollow]

Ghandi started the nuking first, it's only fair :P

[hasty kernel]

Oh, Civ 6

Ill get it, even if I wont play it because that series is a void that sucks up all free time

[wide ember]

it does but it also brings so much fun

[upbeat scroll]

am i the only one who didnt realize that tortilla chips are made out of tortillas, and that chips are very easy to make

[faint panther]

Nah, took me until I worked in a restaurant.

[hidden siren]

:o

Civ 6 is only gud if you get the dlcs tho

[flat prism]

oh god i'm bad at strategy games

[limber cobalt]

Well it’s super fun with friends

It’s also a trial for friendship

[hidden siren]

this is why whenever i play with friends we all ally up against the deity AI

its like an anime

the ragtag group of friends try to take down the Demon Seonduk and God Pericles

https://store.steampowered.com/app/435790/10_Second_Ninja_X/

Steam

10 Second Ninja X

10 SECOND NINJA X is a shockingly fast, overwhelmingly intense action/puzzle game. In this thumb blistering sequel, the nefarious Captain Greatbeard has kidnapped you and trapped your forest friends inside of his army of robots like some kind of psychopath. Greatbeard doesn't ...

Price

$9.99

▶ Play video

Also free jame

Its exactly like Hades in that it has 2d art and also a sword

[fervent zenith]

Resonance of Fate finally finished

[hidden siren]

but is it 100%?

[tender cobalt]

Albino Albino Albino

There's a new game called Monster Train

[hexed hollow]

Oooh, that games looks like good fun

[fervent zenith]

Also I refunded Adr1ft

That game was not made to be played in a fun way without VR

https://store.steampowered.com/app/896440/Eternal_Edge/

Steam

Eternal Edge +

Begin your journey as an Eternal.Eternal Edge + is an Action Adventure Role-Playing game. Journey as Cross, an Age-old warrior who is trying to wake his lost Wife from an Eternal slumber. Only together can they defeat the Skeleton King. Gear up with powerful weapons, epic armo...

Price

$12.74

▶ Play video

This game has been in my radar for months

Now it finally came out

[tender cobalt]

Random link of the weekend (do not click on it if you have Bovinophobia):
https://pin.it/5cxG4pW

[serene tulip]

blerg

I am tired

and because I am tired, I am sad

[north hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-virtualhug-gif-3972670

[serene tulip]

My life is just one big self-reinforcing cycle of blerg

[fervent zenith]

B L E R G
L R
E E
R L
G R E L B

[ancient moss]

I took a break from escaping hell

And turned the universe into paperclips a few times

[north hamlet]

ah, universal paperclips?

[ancient moss]

Yeah

Actually I am at 30% space turned into paperclips at the present moment on the second universe

So, end game :)

[wide ember]

does anyone have a link to that old fan video of england from hetalia sensually dancing with a skeleton to auto-tuned song?

[tender cobalt]

...What have I been missing this whole time?

[wide ember]

it was, um, an interesting fandom back then, especially in japan

[fervent zenith]

Hetalia is kinda weird

[wide ember]

it was born from the doodles of a bored student so, kind of to be expected

fanworks used to be called "second time creation" until hetalia fandom codified something called "third time creation"

...I found the video

[ancient moss]

Link

Also I don't know what most of those words mean

[wide ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8-bmn0JR-0

"third time creation" is today simply called AU in the english speaking worlds

[blissful charm]

that is an absolutely bizarre video

[wide ember]

it makes as much sense in context

to be fair, it was also a really well-made video for its time (2012)

[slim bobcat]

me wishing i had nitro so i can use in other servers:

[serene tulip]

Point me at the other server

I'll use it in your stead