And no, it's definately not "finally, some exotic stories"
#off-topic-discussion
lunar badger
haughty fog
well, definitely, if we were Koreans i bet we would care much less about Homer and Greece
lunar badger
you'd actually be supprised at how much western influence there is in asia
which is why i am having
this conversation
rn
wide ember
interesting, I need to hear about this
haughty fog
this is interesting !
but nonetheless, i feel like in History and cultural matters, there's a lot of "their family / our family" approach, so that we're naturally inclined to dig deeper when we feel its our heritage
lunar badger
It's very much because of A) globalization B) the fact that globalization also entails westernization because it's what dominate MOST of the popular media despite certain countries having their own means and channels
that is not neccesarily true!
haughty fog
not necessarily, and thats good
lunar badger
A lot of the folks over here, because of western media, have an extended interest to greek and other europeon myth and culture
which is not bad persay
haughty fog
of course not !
just that, as you said, it has a lot to do with the West soft power / cultural influence
lunar badger
but it takes away from the initial appreciating the "our" of heritage in what they view as more the "ideal" heritage should look like
haughty fog
not that I complain about it, if more people can love Greece, that's great lol
I think we can "conquer" some heritage, like, it's maybe not ours or maybe we don't even care but we can appropriate it, if that makes sense ?
lunar badger
yeah but that also takes away from loving their own culture!
haughty fog
maybe.
lunar badger
because they view "western" as "better"
and this is how cultures fade into obscurity and left behind
am i trying to say colonialism sucks yes.
wide ember
like the way many Chinese no longer no about their own culture’s stuff and get constantly corrected by other Chinese in YouTube comments?
haughty fog
But for instance, take the Americans, or even Germanic tribes before them. Of course they're not really technically Romans, but they repeated it to themselves by using buildings and political institutions, they claimed, in some way, Rome's heritage. We can claim some mantles :p
lunar badger
YEAH
yeah
exactly that
there's a lot of people that don't even know their own culture having grown up in a environment that just presents you the western version of it for when you first come across it
and it's just!! sad.
haughty fog
so yea, there's colonialism, definitely imperialism plays some impact, massive one, but it can be reversed, i mean with the current world, we share a lot of information and cultures can circulate better, we can claim some heritages we perhaps never knew about
lunar badger
I'm not trying to devalue the greeks and the stuff they've done, but they've played a part in this for sure
haughty fog
they sure were colonizers and built empires
lunar badger
I feel like, claiming isn't the right word to use :/
More like bring to the light and push forward
haughty fog
yea, but culture is so personal i feel like it's also a little bit claiming, even if you do let others use it :p
wide ember
assimilation?
lunar badger
Well, that's why you go for more uplifting the voices of peoples of those cultures and sharing that culture respectfully
instead of just claiming it as your own now because of certain similarities
wide ember
in uni’s ethic and culture or something class we talked about cultural assimilation a lot
haughty fog
touchy subject
haughty fog
I mean, everyone has their culture, their history, and curiosity for others is one thing, but appropriation is a step further
it's complicated
lunar badger
but our country is inheritly build on the foundatiions of cultural assimilation, and we assimilate and appropriate, but never disrespect or downplay the culture and voice of their people
they always get the say in those conversations, because they know their culture best
haughty fog
which country lol
lunar badger
Malaysia
haughty fog
oh, thats great !
lunar badger
our very independence was based on cultural assimilation, so yeah!
I know what Im talking about haha
haughty fog
i mean it all goes back to History, i guess. When you have big multicultural empires...
wide ember
oh darn, isn’t that, like Taiwan, frequently occupied by foreign cultures in the past
haughty fog
it's amazing that people of the world can share the same cultural references
at least, as long as diversity also remains
but yea, games are often pretty eurocentric, lol
and even anglo-saxon centric id say
lunar badger
yeah! There's also an important thing we need to acknoledge that the reason for this is very much so because media is very eurocentric due to globalization and the such
hmm yeah that'd be a more accurate descriptor
though at least other cultures in europe also get the limelight, despite not as much
haughty fog
yea, well, History goes on, empires come and go, but you still got empires, and nowadays there's pretty much a very big anglo saxon soft power
but i also appreciate how we can connect everywhere in the modern world
haha
and share
there's so much idk about Malaysia, you'll have to point me to things to read x)
wide ember
(ironically the anglo Saxon or even the average European or American are often disconnected from their own heritage that is not Greco-Roman)
lunar badger
It's very nice to hear that you're willing to learn more abt it tho uvu
wide ember
I would love to hear about Malay cuisine
lunar badger
I'll dip out of this convo because it's socializing time with friends but thanks for the convo!
north hamlet
mmm malay food
haughty fog
it's true...even if I think nowadays Anglo Saxon are more and more interested about knowing their "barbaric", lol, heritage, that is "non Greco Roman" , and also Nordic cultures
and their anglo saxon history
lunar badger
malay cusine and malaysian cuisine are actually pretty different
though a dereritive of indonesian cusine
wide ember
oh? good thing you are correcting me on that
haughty fog
haha i'm hungry now
lunar badger
3 major types of different cuisine
and you smash them together
and then you have malaysian cuisine
it's like 4pm
haughty fog
i honestly don't know a thing about Malaysia, its a shame, well i know basics...i know someone that visited, saw a little of his photos and all that but not much more
he visited some mosques for instance
it looks quite amazing
he didn't bring food back unfortunately
magic sentinel
Sweet child Val go to bed!! :0 it's late
haughty fog
lmao
north hamlet
that explains why so many malaysian restaurants do hainanese chicken
haughty fog
what are the 3 different types of cuisine ?
wide ember
(It’s 4am here, I should be sleeping)
haughty fog
where are you ? 😮
north hamlet
go to bed sol
wide ember
Canada east coast
haughty fog
oof yea you should sleep
lunar badger
oh yeah that's the chinese part of the cuisine
it's chinese, indo/malay, and indian
magic sentinel
oof sorry SLEEP SOL
wide ember
(I’m in bed but failed to fall asleep)
wide ember
(Since last few hours)
haughty fog
not wanting to boast but france has good food xD
north hamlet
it does
haughty fog
i love Vietnamese food tho
wide ember
France has great food and a language tailor made for law
haughty fog
haha, maybe for the worse lol cause i study law and we do love it a little bit too much
(and also love to disrespectit)
magic sentinel
i went to Paris once
No offense but i didn't like ham that much (maybe it was that restaurant in particular)
But the crepes are spectacular of course 👌
wide ember
It’s such a detail-heavy language so it’s great for law, very little ambiguity
haughty fog
for the past year i grabbed a lot of food from a vietnamese restaurant near my place and i must say it was divine, but i'm open to malaysian experiences haha
Paris is not my favorite place, I do like to visit it
I love the Louvres museum...
but living in Paris is sad
it's always melancolic, rainy, so densely built, with few gardens
lunar badger
It sounds like a very specific aesthethic
haughty fog
I used to live there. One thing I loved was at night, after a party, passing on a big bridge over the Seine river, and watching the lights in the darkness of night, reflecting on the river, and the Eiffel tower, but other than the many friends I made and the museums, I didn't really enjoy the city
lunar badger
Sounds lonely
wide ember
And the people... the french people in Canada that I have met so far are most not good people by my standard?
wide ember
Sure, some are good people, but many are just...
haughty fog
I live in south of France and I prefer to live there over northern parts lol. Also I love Italy, and Barcelona in Spain
i must confess i don't like crepes that much
nor the ham lol
i would love to visit Canadaaaaa
Vancouver, Toronto, Montréal
i'd love to visit everything xD
wide ember
careful with Montreal, it’s not just homicide capital but also full of cults, many of said cults not very healthy
Also rather high gastro/food poisoning rate
haughty fog
lmao
wide ember
But Montreal is also the Little Paris of Canada for its good and diverse food culture
magic sentinel
I loved the Eiffel Tower, i was little when i went to France and i missed my home and that was the only good thing i remember 😂 now i'm older and i know there was more good stuff
haughty fog
what are the cities you visited that impressed you the most ? I liked to visit Paris museums but I think I loved Dublin more haha
lively, fun, and very good food
magic sentinel
who me or sol?
haughty fog
both
wide ember
I have been only to like seven different cities in my life so
haughty fog
its already something x)
I think tho, I enjoyed Dublin because it was foreign but i still felt at ease cause i can speak english. I love Italy and Spain but i'm not that good at italian and spanish
magic sentinel
I personally never went to a lot of countries other than mine (Italy) France, Slovenia, Austry, Croatia...
magic sentinel
I visited many places in France but i was little like i said so i DESPISED museums (thank god my parents didn't let me see all of the Louvre)... now i like them a bit more since i'm older and have more of an eye for art
Venice is my province
haughty fog
oh, nice !
never visited, i could have but i was a kid and afraid of traveling at the time lol
i was stupid
magic sentinel
but i don't live there is what i mean, but i went there a lot of times and yeah it's beautiful trust me c:
haughty fog
my parents went, they liked the region
wide ember
I feel like if I have to recommend, Quebec City is a nice francophone city to visit in Canada
haughty fog
some people are disappointed by Venice, like Paris, because they have crazy high expectations and find bazillions of tourists, from what i hear
id love to visit Quebec for sure
magic sentinel
the only thing: a lot of tourists treat it like an amusment park ignoring the fact that people live there so there are a lot of rules to follow like not feeding pigeons (...oops i always did that)
haughty fog
I don't live far from Italy, currently, I'm in Nice, its close to the border.
I don't cross the border very often tho, especially in those times lol
yea, i imagine
I think like, sometimes you really want to go cultural and visit museums, and sometimes you're better off just enjoying the life of the city
magic sentinel
pffft disappointed? Really?
haughty fog
Paris is great for culture, like Rome
yea, it happens
I mean, some things can't disappoint, its true. Like Zagreus
magic sentinel
I didn't know back then but yeah it absolutely is: i visited Napoleon's grave for example (and boi it was huge, very cool)
ayy
magic sentinel
wdym
magic sentinel
I also went to Disneyland
My god the queues killed all my of joy
wide ember
lol
haughty fog
i HATED it xD
so many people love this fake place its crazy xD
well, maybe not hate, but i def don't understand the hype
magic sentinel
I also never saw Verona's amphiteathre until a convention happened. Cool, of course Rome's bigger but cool nontheless
haughty fog
i bet. My parents loved Verona's region, they loved the food and everything
magic sentinel
1h of wait for 1min of fun i just wanted to ride my little filly 
magic sentinel
I don't know that much of Verona but -v-
wide ember
Could’ve tried Toronto’s wonderland, less wait and more extreme fun
magic sentinel
... yeah but it's on the other side of Greenwich ^^"
wide ember
true
magic sentinel
idk if i'm ever going to America, my mom's cousin lives there so maybe but it would be San Francisco
Also btw i know Italy is known for the southern part but trust me our mountains are also amazing (and there's also a lot of art)
wide ember
are the mountains good for skiing?
And it’s nice how Europeans can just walk into any other European country, you could visit so many places
wide ember
Quebec province
magic sentinel
oh nice Canada is one of the places i want to visit!
wide ember
I am in bed I can’t sleep
north hamlet
Get off your phone
magic sentinel
Do you suffer from insomnia?
magic sentinel
How about you have a chamomile and when you go to bed yoy turn off the phone so there are no nasty techno waves that keep you awake?
hexed hollow
sleep, who's that 
wide ember
I actually went and grabbed the phone when I couldn’t fall asleep, figured that if I can’t sleep I should be doing something
magic sentinel
My sleep schedule is also a bit off trust me you don't want to mess your biologic clock
That's worse, tecnologic things keep you awake
magic sentinel
I'm sorry i can't say more useful things but goodnight!
Yeah now that's more like it, reading helps
north hamlet
If you can't sleep getting up is good
As long as you don't build the association between being in bed and not sleeping
bronze summit
Very true.
I built that association in high school and it took me forever to break it.
chilly briar
I very much have done that
hasty kernel
sharp grail
bronze notch
i've racked up enough wildcards and shards in Legends of Runeterra to create a new deck, do you guys know what type the deck should be? (control, aggro, burst, ephemeral-based, etc.,)
serene tulip
Do the one that's equivalent to MTG's goblin decks
hasty kernel
Doesnt really exist
Anyway, of the decks I play, the one I can recommend in terms of power and fun is indeed Swain burn (or rather Swain/Vlad burn)
Vlad self-damage zoo is also fun
Im a big fan of Purrsuit decks because its jank and a deck of catpuns, but its not good
serene tulip
wait is this the game with the goblin mage that's actually an anime girl?
hasty kernel
Uhhh
I dont think so?
League doesnt really have goblins
It has yordles, but theyre small furry people
hasty kernel
Yeah uh
Shadowverse is very weeb
Its a big part of why I didnt play it
This is what a female yordle looks like, for example
This is what a male yordle looks like
From the same region, that is, they have regional differences (which is basically just an explanation for retcons)
Its honestly much better with female designs in general than most card games are, even if I have a couple gripes still (like them using Miss Fortunes old design when the new one is clearly vastly superior)
fervent zenith
So, I lend my brother RE3 so he can play the campaign. He began yesterday and is now in the police station. He was disappointed when I told him he was basically in the middle of the game already
odd grove
Uhm
Dude have you seen most yordles Riot uses for the actual game
Like, male yordles are furry and females don't have all that fur for some reason?
@hasty kernel They just recently started trying to be more consistent with designs but still make some female Yordles be just glorified elves
hasty kernel
Thats the regional differences because of retcons
Originally they were seperate species
odd grove
I never understood Riot's retcons
They retconned their lore several times
Dota at least tried to make stuff work
hasty kernel
The original lore was awful
Thats really the long and short of it
It was awful and there was no real way to fix it short of tossing it all out
So they did
Anyway since they changed the whole yordle thing, we never got a new yordle
odd grove
Have ya seen dota lore tho?
hasty kernel
New female yordle
If we did, I imagine she would look more like Fae Bladetwirler
Yeah Dota lore is also not good
odd grove
Have you read the Axe comic?
hasty kernel
Ah
Yeah its alright
Dota is decent at characters
Worldbuilding, not so much
Still think the Tales of Runeterra videos are better though, especially the bilgewater one
fervent zenith
Moba lore seems like an oxymoron
velvet fjord
remember when HoTS tried to have lore
beyond the games that already existed in it, I mean
fervent zenith
They should have stop at the characters being parodies of themselves
That was hilarious
Like Maiev being in fact in love with illidan
Maiev: What do you mean I'm obsessed with Illidan? It's not like I think about him every day, and every night... picturing his smug grin as I sharpen my glaive. Imagining how it would feel when I plunge it into his chest... right between those big, disgusting tattoos... leaning in close, to watch the light fade from his eyes. silence Oh, I'm sorry? What were you saying?
hasty kernel
Not really?
I mean its not like mobas are a great way to tell the story
But they dont do that
They tell the story through short stories, comics and animations on their website
Though even then the Burning Tides event in league was a neat tie-in into the story
hidden siren
man that dota comic was great
odd grove
@hasty kernel dota good
hasty kernel
I mean I do think Dota is reasonably fun, I just also think their lore is bad
odd grove
Huh!?
How
Like what part of it is bad
The concept is great...
Two entities greater than even gods fight each other for domination, and a third, badly weakened one tries to defeat them both at the same time in order to put a finish to them
hidden siren
lore is bad if u haff to search for it
hasty kernel
Well thats a part, but its mostly that its unconnected and all over the place
odd grove
They try to make more
hasty kernel
Right Im saying the basis they got isnt good
odd grove
But valve sadly has a tough time making games
They made Alyx tho
And they are making Artifact 2
Thing is, if either of those games becomes an irredeemable failure, Valve will just... become a store
hidden siren
Valve is clearly the best at making sequels
odd grove
They don't need to make games anymore, which is a shame because their games are just really good
hasty kernel
Eh
Theyre the best at buying better studios and then releasing said studios games as theirs
Thats the thing
odd grove
Valve is the only company where every sequel is straight up better
hidden siren
bruh i cant /s
hasty kernel
Valve only made the Half-life games
Everything else is just something they bought people up for
hidden siren
was hunt down the freeman official
odd grove
Yeah
That somehow got a lot of famous VA
You know a game will either be a blast or a wreck when most of the cast are Youtubers
No middle ground
fervent zenith
But was licensed kinda
desert minnow
the only good non official HL content is clearly wayneraidiot's AI video, clearly
fervent zenith
That somehow got a lot of famous VA
@odd grove
That's kinda misleading 😂
odd grove
Bruh what about John Freeman
desert minnow
alright full life consequences also makes it into the good content list too
odd grove
I mean... If i made a game i'd kinda want to have YongYea voice something
I can understand the decision
odd grove
All that stuff makes me feel anxiety about even trying to make games
Like... How do you even make a good game
odd grove
That ain't helping much
hasty kernel
I mean, I havent made one so I can only speak from what Ive seen and been told by people who have, but
It mostly comes down to knowing your audience and looking for things that clearly work
odd grove
Interesting
hasty kernel
Also simply having people playtest your game, especially ones you know will answer honestly, even if its bad, helps a lot
fringe sparrow
GOD. Poland, where I live, is another dimension. At this moment since few days most popular videos on YouTube are about #hot16challenge which is about creating 1 rap verse in 16 bars in 72h to collect money on siępomaga.pl ("wehelps".poland) to help hospitals to fight with coviD-19. Some videos are having 10 million views and top 10 ends at around 3 millions views. What's more there is even our president video -- as he took part in the action. Some singers who stopped singing few years ago, priests and more. Just WOW and WTF at the same moment. The count actually is around 1.75 Million Polish Złotych (around 500 thousands $)
fervent zenith
@fringe sparrow God, that hashtag can be interpreted as another completely different thing
wide ember
has mantra or other people played Helltaker?
It’s out and the game itself is free on steam
fringe sparrow
yeach i know 😅 But just enter the site. its 6 y old hashtag
wide ember
I wish Trudeau could also do a fundraiser like that
Or cash out how many people find him physically attractive for funding
fervent zenith
I'm not interested in that game
There was a important politician in Spain that got completely naked for a Campaign ad
hasty kernel
Well, they can't say he didn't have the balls
wide ember
lol
fervent zenith
Before you ask, it was a man
hasty kernel
I guessed so, hence my pun
wide ember
ok how do I tell Trudeau to do that for covid19 management funding
wide ember
I’m very into tsundere girls in suits
hasty kernel
Tsundere ain't my thing, but suits on the other hand ...
fervent zenith
There is another politician which is infamous for being 36 despite looking as an ugly 14 year old
His Wikipedia photo being hilarious
wide ember
Ok where do I say “hey Trudeau you want to revive the economy right? So could you please launch some sexy calendars of yourself for the starter fund?”
Which one
fervent zenith
Ah, the firefighter method
hasty kernel
Oh yeah, Fire Forces anime is apparently finally getting the calendar chapter
fervent zenith
Was talking about firefighters publishing racy calendars to get budget
wide ember
I’m always impressed by all the tricks they employ to make the photos fanservicy yet still strictly PG rated
wide ember
downloading still there demo
tender cobalt
Yay
faint panther
Man, I still need to watch that.
serene tulip
Well it's rentable on Google play now.
north hamlet
the sonic movie is actually ok when it's being silly
the melodrama is pretty cringey though
serene tulip
Jim Carey is quite the card
north hamlet
yeah
robotnik and agent stone have an excellent dynamic
it's worth watching just to giggle at their antics
serene tulip
Lol you weren't kidding about the melodrama
fervent zenith
Remember to watch Cats after Sonic
serene tulip
..... No
fervent zenith
Yeeeees
serene tulip
That is not a movie I think I can watch on my own
serene tulip
The latte scene made the rental worth it.
Mild Sonic Spoilers ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td8lnP8p6oU||
wide ember
why is this man a villain again
north hamlet
because heroes are lame
ornate mica
any good greek mythos based books?
wide ember
The Song of Achilles if you want a good cry
The House of Asterion if you want to lose faith in humanity (again)
ornate mica
how recent are these?
wide ember
recently enough, Song of Achilles is 2011 and House of Asterion is 1947
ornate mica
hmm, the achilles one sounds fun, any old ones you like in contrast?
wide ember
not too sure, because older than Anouilh's Antigone and I would be reading the legends
and if we don't limit to books, I'm still crying over Olympus Overdrive's vanishment despite Sleepless Domain still running
ornate mica
Antigone was my first highschool book
man i love old style legends, must be hard to read the originals though
i couldnt even read normal shakespeare (had to read the "no fear shakespeare" version )
wide ember
I've only read the annotated translations not pure original though 😅
haughty fog
Percy Jackson (ill see myself out)
fervent zenith
God of War
desert minnow
@haughty fog leave and never return
haughty fog
😭
somber ferry
I can’t believe I missed a mention of the best scene in the Sonic movie
Jim Carrey looked like he was having a BLAST in that whole movie
hidden siren
i dont speak chinese, but may i still ask what do you need help for
devout quiver
about translation
antiquity song
i can understand the word but not the full sentence. I m making a sub video
hidden siren
Since i think the server is looking for people to translate hades into simplified chinese, there probably arent that many who can in here
devout quiver
so sed
fathom raft
Hey someone. Can you give me the role "Hades" and "Early Access" 
fervent zenith
Anyone here played 'Deep rock galactic'?
velvet fjord
I played a bit of it
velvet fjord
oh yeah
fervent zenith
Is good?
velvet fjord
remember trying vermintide, couldn't get into it even though I love the setting
fervent zenith
I loved the unique characters
And flintlock guns are a fav of mine
Edge of Eternity chapter 5 releases this week. Given that will come with a sale I like to recommend you the game
wide ember
which antiquity chinese song I can read traditional chinese better than simplified
fervent zenith
God, something hilarious
There is (female)!character that was originally called Aelys and now when she is coming to the game they renamed her Fallon
And I loled
slim bobcat
i just realized how great the disco elysium skill portraits would be as avatars, and so i've changed mine
tranquil cloud
Disco Elysium ♥️
wide ember
I'm sorry but the latest magnus archives episode... ||the heck Martin is suggesting to go full murder mode??? Martin, of all people?||
odd grove
I dwelled to the worst parts of twitter how are y'all
tender cobalt
Ray, no. I mean, hi 🧁
hasty kernel
Ive kinda sorta figured out a potential way to resolve the writers block Ive been having
Maybe
While lamenting my lack of art skill which means I cant make the comic I want to make
odd grove
Ah yeah?
Hey man, i have an advice for you!
@hasty kernel Show it to people
Make something the best way you can
Then let people see it
People you can trust
The best way of learning is experience
hasty kernel
Wait which part are you referring to
hasty kernel
Ah
hasty kernel
Ok but I do not have the writing skills of ONE to make up for my lackluster art
odd grove
And his art became GOOD
He only keeps making the webcomic look bad because that look became iconic
If you see MobPsycho you can tell he's better
But above all
Do it
Even if it's bad, next time it can only be better as long as you make your mind to do so
Hey, why don't you write something and show it to me, if that helps?
Maybe you'd trust closer friends more, but it works if you don't want them to see
tender cobalt
Aw, Ray is offering 
hasty kernel
Eh, Ive got a bit of a perfectionist streak, so Im not going to use up a good idea when I cant really do it
Ill just backshelf it, like a lot of ideas
odd grove
Hey, just because you did it before doesn't mean you can't do it again
You know how many characters are made years before their public debut?
Mori made Hakumen when he was in highschool, YEARS before BlazBlue
hasty kernel
Uh, for me it kinda does. I dont like redoing things at all
tender cobalt
I am the white void. I am the cold steel. I am the just sword. Yada yada
hasty kernel
Yknow its funny, I mustve heard that monologue a thousand times
I still cant fully remember it
odd grove
Hakumen's cool
Along Susano'o, Jin Kisaragi, Ragna the Bloodedge, Potemkin, Tohru Adachi...
Who else?
hasty kernel
I just liked the gameplay of Guilty Gear a bit less
odd grove
And any characters you like?
hasty kernel
In Guilty Gear?
I liked Venoms design a lot
Zato-1 was also pretty fun to play
And who doesnt like Faust
Oh and Potemkin
odd grove
Yeah Pot
He's a chunky dude alrigth
But i hate he has a charge move
@hasty kernel btw peach told me i should ask u out
So... Are you free this sunday?
hasty kernel
I am ... confused
serene tulip
I wish I liked the taste of fish better, fishing is fun, but fish are disgusting.
hasty kernel
That sounds fishy
blissful charm
band: is called sisyphus
me: oh nice hades reference
blissful charm
happy birthday!
odd grove
Happy oldening!
tender cobalt
Happy Birthday!
fervent zenith
Happy birthday, mate
north hamlet
🎂
autumn pasture
happy birthday!
serene tulip
I feel like I should make a career shift into a counselor for deradicalization
blissful charm
what's a counselor for deradicalization?
serene tulip
I mean, like, a psychologist that specializes in deradicalizing folks
a therapist for alt-righters
blissful charm
oh that's a very important field
serene tulip
one that seems underserved
There aren't enough billionaires attempting to undo Rupert Murdoch
Like, I truly appreciate the bill and melinda gate's fund's attempts at eliminating malaria, but it feels like its kinda putting a finger in the dam.
wide ember
psychological deprogrammers?
those therapists are so rare and often under attack
(you could still become a counselor though, just maybe stick with people escaping abusive families that are not cults, mafia or the likes first)
atomic fox
sorry off-topic I've just been sending out some feelers but. I have been thinking a lot about final fantasy and kind of what ttrpg would be a good fit for it. Does anyone have anything I can add to my reading list.
fervent zenith
A book to read?
atomic fox
Kind of, I mean like a dnd book. But I can do the other as well
fervent zenith
Oh sry then no idea
strange cedar
I could suggest some dnd podcasts that are fun to listen to, but I'm assuming you're specifically looking books?
slim bobcat
systems, more like
atomic fox
Yeah I'm mostly looking for books and systems. But there good stuff I learn for see how other people run a game
slim bobcat
i don't know much about FF, but i can name a few systems i've heard people enjoy
FATE, dungeon world, 13age
wide ember
I've heard about Numenera before, it's sci fi fantasy so it could be similar?
tender cobalt
General Recommendator Albino 
raven harbor
There's a few FF conversions for the D&D systems I've heard good???? things about
atomic fox
any names?
raven harbor
atomic fox
thank you
flat prism
many hours late, but thank you all for the birthday wishes
upbeat scroll
your in luck i cant sleep
whats the physics level
high school? undergrad?
is it kinematics, light and sound waves, or electromagnetism
thin grove
upbeat scroll
bluh, calorimeters n stuff, right?
if ice cup in paper cup with water, what temperature is the ice cube in 10 minutes
I'd swear if i could
worst problems ever made
upbeat scroll
oh yeah flip a coin
ornate mica
i might just ditch it and tell the teach they cut off our electricity
north hamlet
I kinda liked that stuff
Mostly because exponential growth and decay were maths i was actually ok at
Also other heat related equations were pretty straightforward
sharp grail
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/corintio/indie-g-zine-volume-3
indie G zine is having a kickstarter for volume 3! previous volumes have bastion, transistor and pyre in them 
fervent zenith
Ey, that's the world Next door lmao
And little misfortune
And The Goose
And the coffee girl
sudden torrent
kind of strange seeing boyfriend dungeon on the list, though it is still not out yet.
wide falcon
anyone know the character at the top left?
wide falcon
huh thanks
fervent zenith
I actually was recommending that game just a few days ago lol
tardy anchor
oh i see later gator 👀
leaden drift
Okay, I checked the pins in #welcome #readme-first and #bot-commands so murder me gently because I'm bad at Discord - but how do I colour my name?
(Ideally emerald green. I'm sure I can get the hexadecimal ranges from Google.)
buoyant frigate
you can get the Hades role in #bot-commands !
welcome to the server!
use ?rank Hades to get it
serene tulip
WHY DOES IT REFUSE TO RAIN IN STARDEW VALLEY THIS SUMMER
north hamlet
get a rain totem?
north hamlet
are you after a specific fish or something?
serene tulip
No, I just need stone and wood and am out of easy meals
so all my energy gets spent watering
serene tulip
well I have no iron because I can't go to the mine 😛
serene tulip
Excuse me, you mean my reliable gifts?
north hamlet
the cheap ones
serene tulip
😛
north hamlet
grapes are good gifts but spice berries aren't very popular
serene tulip
north hamlet
yeah but what about sweet peas
serene tulip
Everyone likes sweet peas
north hamlet
except for those three guys
north hamlet
just give them all sashimi
serene tulip
and is always in his room so I can never get him
north hamlet
they'll all take those
serene tulip
Don't have a kitchen
strange cedar
Yeah he is always out at night
I always remember to meet him last as he is most likely to be on my way whe heading back to the farm
Also people play stardew valley here? OwO
serene tulip
I've been saving all my crab-pot catches for sashimi
I could theoretically eat those I guess
north hamlet
that sounds like a good plan
serene tulip
but why can't it just rain T.T
north hamlet
if you check the forecast on 25th it seems to be guaranteed?
it's bugged apparently
serene tulip
Name my first two cows?
north hamlet
i always just go for the randomly generated ones personally
but not for the dog or cat
serene tulip
part of my resource shortage issues is by my own fault doubly over
not only did I over-plant crops but I'm on the island map
because its my favorite aesthetically
strange cedar
I have almost never used anything but the default map
It just gives so much freedom that its hard to use anything else
wide ember
finally, origami will be back in fashion again
and, unrelated, I learned that Mark Twain wrote isekai novel in his time and my view of him totally changed
serene tulip
I had the abridged version of that on audiotape years ago
odd grove
ok so
About the mario game
@serene tulip @wide ember @raven harbor the Ring combat system seems to have more depth than previous entries
But there are several things making me think
For example, how the inner circle seems awfully small for just mario
As well as having all of Bowser's army as an ally
raven harbor
It looked like there were more races than Just Toads kicking around
So thats a lot of my issue with Color Splash
odd grove
The attacks don't seem to be consumable, so that's good
There seems to be different toads to some extent
raven harbor
Splash actually had some solid writing iirc?
odd grove
Like... ninja toads
So... i feel the issue about newer paper mario games
Is them trying to make the fact it's paper a focus?
Like, take earlier games
TYD and Super paper mario for example
You rarely saw any moment where the point of the story was that they were paper
But anyhow, if the combat is good RPG stuff i'm in
Like if we just get levels that's enough
faint panther
Paper Mario 64 is in my top 6 (I gotta figure out where Hades and FFX sit in all of this), but that's because it was such a fun engaging RPG.
Thousand Year Door did the Doom Eternal where they broke up the best parts of the game for "variety" and it slowed the game.
I only ever played through SPM once, and it's absolutely the start of the downhill slide of the series.
odd grove
Yeah, doom 16 and eternal are pretty different
faint panther
But it's not bad on its own.
odd grove
To the point where i feel it's justified to play both
SPM is good
Definetly
Like, story and gameplay
But that's the issue
faint panther
Agreed!
odd grove
It was different AND good, and Nintendo thought that was the way to handle paper mario... make it different every time
@faint panther how do u feel about the rings?
Personally, if we slap vanilla paper mario on it... I like it
faint panther
I need to watch some footage.
odd grove
That is, if we get skills that interact more with the rank
Oh i have some
This is a single fight against goombos
faint panther
I already hate it.
Thanks, Nintendo, for knifing my childhood in the back every year without fail.
faint panther
Super primary gut reaction.
faint panther
Gut reaction.
odd grove
The rings? The fact it was over in a single attack (with an attack buff slapped on)
Have you seen the trailer tho
faint panther
I haven't.
I'll check out the game more as it approaches release.
Don't let my very irrational and emotional take on games stop you from playing ones you enjoy.
raven harbor
It can't be worse than Sticker Star
desert minnow
at least they tried to make something original instead of recycling the whole paper mario aesthetic again
faint panther
I would so much rather have a moderately clever but derivative masterpiece than something that tries to really push the envelope and fall flat on its face like Zag running into the Road Runner exit.
ornate mica
gta 5 is free on epic games store rn
tender cobalt
I'm so excited about the new Paper Mario game because I'm a Mario fan
hasty kernel
I would never have guessed
tender cobalt
I like that they realized Color Splash was 90% Toads and fixed that. I'm not sure about the combat system because 20 seconds of it is not enough to make a proper judgement. However, I don't really see why they don't return to their roots with partners-FP-badges, specially since that's what the majority of the Paper Mario community wants and loves
serene tulip
blerg
tranquil bay
throws this here bc it made me laugh and i feel awful https://gyazo.com/3dd53bfc6ce61d355d200c117d6dc622
serene tulip
me, in the grocery store: "Huh, I haven't bought popsicles in a while, I should buy some!"
Me, at home: "Oh yes, my teeth are absurdly sensitive and this isn't a fun experience"
balmy patrol
serene tulip
It finally rained and the spirits were in a bad mood >:|
sharp grail
does anyone have recommendations for headphones? the last ones i had were razer kraken and they still work, but theyre almost 5 years old and kinda falling apart so i figure theyre due for a replacement
hexed hollow
what budget do you have and are you looking for wired or wireless (or irrelevant)?
strange cedar
queen rover
Good day, gentlemen. They're giving away Aegis Defenders for free on Humble Bundle this time
strange cedar
Way ahead of you pal but nice of you to inform ^_^
sharp grail
i think its the first time it was posted here? unless im missing it
queen rover
I got the mail notification yesterday, even if I just heard about it now
Tis also good to come into the server to find Yakuza memery
sharp grail
also, im looking for wired headphones, and hopefully nothing over 80 dollars? but i honestly really dont know where to start looking. what do other people use and recommend 
queen rover
Oh, I really couldn't say, I always end up getting the cheapest headphones I can find since my family has a tendency of stealing them the second I'm not looking
north hamlet
i prefer to splurge a bit with headphones since it ends up being more cost effective for me
i'm not very good at taking care of my stuff so cheap stuff doesn't last
especially if it's wired
was chatting with a friend about cheap headsets and these seem to be nice as well as cheap
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-audio/g332-stereo-gaming-headset.981-000755.html
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Headsets/Stereo-Headsets/HS50-PRO-STEREO-Gaming-Headset/p/CA-9011215-NA
personally i have a g933 at home and an urbanears plattan for outside use
hexed hollow
the g332's are good, I used a similar model for a good while before I got my current headset
steelseries arctis 5's are apparantly also good, I have a pair of arctis 7's that I quite like so I assume the arctis 5's are very similar in build
queen rover
Ah, I miss a good headset. I do tend to find them a bit uncomfortable for extended use since my ears are more on the large size, but they're cool
sharp grail
thank you! ill look into these :>
steelseries arctis 5 sounds good so maybe ill splurge... 👀
hexed hollow
no worries, let us know which one you pick up ^_^
odd grove
Is there a way to completely disable twitter
hexed hollow
as in deactivate a twitter account?
limber cloud
Yeah you can deac an account
If you leave it deactivated too long then it'll delete
hidden siren
im jus saying yakuza 0 best game
flat prism
currently playing it
i wouldn't call it best by a long shot but it sure as hell is up there
queen rover
I'm playing through Kiwami myself, what everyone calls a poorer Yakuza 0
I find the boss design questionable at times (why must health regen not slow during the slow-mo style change?), but it's alright
tender cobalt
Happy weekend everyone
north hamlet
no u 😛
desert minnow
It’s still friday in ‘ere
hidden siren
confirmed heartfulpeach is Aussie then
serene tulip
north hamlet
Not necessarily aussie, could be kiwi
autumn pasture
peach could also be new zealand
north hamlet
Or some other island in Oceania
serene tulip
Futae no Kiwami?
north hamlet
No?
hidden siren
new zealanders are just australians according to that one TF2 comic i read
north hamlet
Yes but no
tender cobalt
1st time I get called a kiwi and I love it 😂
serene tulip
Its weird what random junk I remember from an anime I watched over a decade ago
friggin' ruroni kenshin
autumn pasture
what time even is it over there peach
north hamlet
Could be friday eve as well now that i think about it
hidden siren
2 hour time difference from me so it should be 1:22AM
north hamlet
Peach please put us out of our misery
autumn pasture
can't, just got off break and back to the grindstone 😔
hidden siren
Sleep for 10 hours to have enough energy to work for 6 hours
tender cobalt
Uhm, I'm sorry if I disappoint but it's 10:28 AM here 😣
north hamlet
America then
hidden siren
Smh saying its the weekend when it aint
north hamlet
It's weekend here
hidden siren
fridays are weekdays >:(
autumn pasture
peach commits false advertisement
north hamlet
I appreciate it
tender cobalt
That's exactly why I said it. Rather say before rather than after considering we have different time zones 
north hamlet
Also anyone hyped for the terraria update tomorrow
tender cobalt
I don't play Terraria, but I have it in my library! What is the update about?
north hamlet
They're basically remastering the whole game
New qol settings, rebalancing, graphics, items etc
tender cobalt
Oooh, sounds like a nice incentive to play it (again!)
north hamlet
Yee
hidden siren
Everyone bully the moderator for being considerate and saying its the weekend early
tender cobalt
My brother loved that game, and he's been replaying it lately so maybe I could join him after update hits 😄
serene tulip
I'm gonna bully the moderator for not letting me have a purple nickname >:|
north hamlet
Peach stop being so nice, you're too good to us
hidden siren
I'm gonna bully the moderator for not letting me have a purple nickname >:|
@serene tulip Fool
tender cobalt
Sowwy 😓
north hamlet
Are those newspapers?
serene tulip
yes
fervent zenith
Bongo cat has no mercy
If he finds something he will use it as a blunt instrument
wide ember
I'm late to this but isn't friday part of weekends?
hasty kernel
This is probably another one of those "regional differences" thing
Here Fridays isnt part of the weekends
Its the prologue to the weekends
slim bobcat
odd that i consider saturday and sunday to be the weekend, but also think sunday is the first day of the week
odd grove
What is time even tho
queen rover
Hm, I'd consider Friday afternoon to be when the weekend officially starts myself 🤔
autumn pasture
only friday afternoon
sudden torrent
I honestly don't follow the weekends time since my true weekends start midway through saturday
autumn pasture
no i mean friday after work is when the weekends start
if you're working a standard 9 to 5 that is
sudden torrent
oh yeah here like the weekends are considered evening of firday till sunday's end
queen rover
Yeah, it would seem like a pretty standard idea
fervent zenith
Hi game reccomedations guy here. Jet lancer is pretty cool, and if you liked Luftrausers you will love this too
fervent zenith
The gameplay is friggin identical lmao
tranquil bay
@torpid apex whats your experience with the basara series
queen rover
Many thanks, Mr. Games Recommendator
fervent zenith
Albino is acceptable too
torpid apex
@torpid apex whats your experience with the basara series
@tranquil bay
!!! Basara 2 is my fave even though it crashed the PS2 all the time lol
tranquil bay
rip to that ps2.... i think for me it peaked with utage
hidden siren
Calling someone albino feels off for me personally lmao
fervent zenith
It's a joke I got in other channels to
All my names are [Dumb abjective] Albino with a different photo of Yu to reflect the mood
(Smug Albino is the default btw)
torpid apex
after the great crash of the PS2, i didn't get to play many other Basara titles, so a lot of it is more lore stuff that i read on the wiki
i also read a ton of FF lore eventhough i only played half of ff8 and ff12
it's the Aesthetics
im always attracted to the pretty looking games
with questionable narratives
tranquil bay
4 was pretty great but the expansion, sumeragi was a letdown to me compared to what utage brought to 3. though i think the series is pretty much dead for the time being, capcom doesnt seem to have any interest in another console game now that they have their cash grab mobile basara up.
im one of those ff oldies that doesnt have much interest in the more pseudo futuristic settings of the recent games lol ive played up to 10, only did part of 12, and i dont have the attention span to commit to mmos anymore so despite 14's wild popularity i wont go anywhere near it bc i know i'll just drop it within a couple weeks
fervent zenith
I-V is medieval with steampunk touches VII-XV is full on futurism and VI is the transition
You can play XIV for free until level 35
fervent zenith
GOOD NEWS THEN
FFXIV is getting completely REVAMPED
They have trimmed all the fat
hasty kernel
Im sure it will be better, but Im not gonna count on it being good
fervent zenith
First they have elimininated 15% of all quests until level 60
tranquil bay
i do not have the attention span for mmos. im not interested in the commitment lmao
fervent zenith
And eliminated all redundant objectives
hidden siren
Do you got a list of games youve played fam
fervent zenith
I actually have THE LIST (TM) where I write all games I want to play in the future
Or are in my backlog
Then I cross them out when I finish them
I actually filled two entire pages with games LMAO
Some of them I played the demo or watched the final trailer and just crossed them out and forgot about them
torpid apex
Questionable as in bad or problematic?
@fervent zenith
both, sometimes not as bad but boy howdy nomura can't plot
fervent zenith
Nomura was just the ffvii remake tho
torpid apex
im one of those ff oldies that doesnt have much interest in the more pseudo futuristic settings of the recent games lol ive played up to 10, only did part of 12, and i dont have the attention span to commit to mmos anymore so despite 14's wild popularity i wont go anywhere near it bc i know i'll just drop it within a couple weeks
@tranquil bay
oh, big mood. no attention span/energy to invest into long titles that i can't access through my laptop screen
fervent zenith
You do want me to post THE LIST (TM) Warning the list is long
torpid apex
i don't have the money for more consoles
nor the inclination to get consoles cause im moving around a lot
anything that doesn't fit on my laptop is a barrier to me
hidden siren
i think a link to the list is better so as to not flood the chat
hidden siren
Oh dear
hidden siren
And also you can use it as toiletpaper in an emergency
fervent zenith
Warning
My calligraphy is horrible
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351166263772446722/710943763307954278/IMG_20200515_215613.jpg
hidden siren
Dear god graphing paper
fervent zenith
First Half
tranquil bay
god whats it like to finish games, i dont know how i managed it when i was younger, i cant remember the last time ive finished a game that wasnt just a replay of something ive finished already years before
hidden siren
Are you a doctor by any chance
fervent zenith
Nope
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351166263772446722/710944258248671252/IMG_20200515_215819.jpg
Second part
tranquil bay
the fact its not in the proper orientation makes me irrationally angry
hasty kernel
Are you studying medicine by any chance, Albino?
fervent zenith
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351166263772446722/710944259083337828/IMG_20200515_215825.jpg
Third part
torpid apex
god whats it like to finish games, i dont know how i managed it when i was younger, i cant remember the last time ive finished a game that wasnt just a replay of something ive finished already years before
@tranquil bay
dear gods what's it like finishing books or any media anymore 😔
fervent zenith
Nope I teach kids English on the side And I'm studying geography and history
queen rover
Oh, I could never get into MMOs myself. I played one back when I was a kid and stuck with it because I made friends within some guild, but I just couldn't be bothered to invest time like that anymore
hasty kernel
Anyway, for me finishing games is easy
queen rover
Oh, history. Noice 👀
hasty kernel
Starting games is the hard part
fervent zenith
The important thing is that I can understand it perfectly
hasty kernel
Right now Im still deciding which game to start
hidden siren
Oh dear lord
hidden siren
why cursive
fervent zenith
.Hack is in THE LIST (TM)
queen rover
Cursive is good for you
fervent zenith
That's not curive, that's my natural writing
fervent zenith
I CAN'T write non-cursive
torpid apex
my natural handwriting can be considered cursiveish as well ngl
tranquil bay
rip
queen rover
🤔 I would say my writing is slanted to some extent as well
fervent zenith
Well unno you got a full list to choose theer
fervent zenith
I'm rn wiggling 4 games at the same time
torpid apex
block letters?
hasty kernel
Which literally translated to "printed script"
torpid apex
full caps
fervent zenith
Oh I'm studying german too
hidden siren
Im just gonna ask you directly since your handwriting is more minddamaging than staring at an eldritch god
queen rover
Bold letters?
hasty kernel
Block Letters probably
fervent zenith
I'm first level yet
torpid apex
they call it architecture's hand in fonts
hidden siren
Bro he writes his lists in Minecraft Enchantment Table
torpid apex
cause my writing when fast can be chicken scratch levels of unreadable to anyone but myself lol
fervent zenith
You know One day I can put it on txt
queen rover
Give us your own list, then. Let the masses decide your fate