#off-topic-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 195

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Or closer to Caligula

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Ok let me see

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FF TYPE-0?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:04 AM

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Still waiting for a sale on that one

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I started with FF7 but weren't FF turn-based?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I also have Ys Seven and Valkyria Chronicles 4 on my backlog

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They were, yes, hence why theyre the non-gimmick part of the scale

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:04 AM

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I would reccomend Pandora tower but you need Wii or Wii u

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:05 AM

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I do have a Wii, though noone played it in years

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Huh, its surprisingly easy to get a hold off on the german Amazon

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Ill keep it in mind then

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:07 AM

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I have to remember a very good japanese wii game

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Gimme a sec

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I loved it

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Fragile Dreams

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:09 AM

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I'll take your word for its quality but does that girl get a proper outfit later on

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:09 AM

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Looks kinda horror

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Not my thing I guess

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Oh yeah, I tried the Tales series with Tales of Berseria

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I kinda disliked the combat

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:10 AM

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I genuinely can't remember lmao

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Played it in 2011

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I also have Tales of Symphonia on my backlog

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Octopath?

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I know obvious question but worth asking

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:11 AM

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But it looks to have the same issues with gameplay I had with Berseria

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:11 AM

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Tales of Phantasia was the best Tales of imo

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:11 AM

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I considered Octopath, but again, its just regular turn-based

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I dont find regular turn-based very interesting

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Ok, I'll dig my memories to find a game

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:12 AM

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nier games though?

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Menwhile

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw64lbEWIAEmjhK.png

A smug Lea while you wait

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:13 AM

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I still have to play Automata

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:14 AM

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Found one

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.Hack//G.U?

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It's an interesting franchise

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:15 AM

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oh my god, get out

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Ironically I started playing that one right before the FF7 Remake came out

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The gameplay was drab

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:15 AM

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entering deep .hack flashback

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:15 AM

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And the designs are ehhh

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But the story is interesting enough?

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Ill probably force myself through it after FF7 Remake

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:15 AM

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ok, the .hack games are grindy, but the atmosphere is good and the story is decent

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Eternal Radiance? It just came out

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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and the .hack// music is 👌

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I think that one is in early access

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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I prefer the first 4 .hack games to GU

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Shining Resonance also never played but its in my wishlist

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:17 AM

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~~can I suggest Prince Maker III: Renascence just because~~

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Ive been considering and deciding against that game every time it was on sale

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Maybe at some point Ill get it

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:17 AM

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Lmao

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Also although Turn Based Skyborn is the best RPGmaker game I've played

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Apart from LISA

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 1:18 AM

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My fave JRPG(s) is Ar tonelico: Melody of Elemia but the second, Melody of Metafalica is also super good.

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Fairy Fencer? Its not my cup of tea but maybe yours

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:19 AM

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Vaguely recall looking it up but not being impressed

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:20 AM

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UNOvven should just convert to metroidvania platformer games

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Ive played a couple of those before

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Really liked ICEY

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Though I guess its not exactly metroidvania

faint panther Apr 18, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Hollow Knight is always recommended.

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I loved Hyper Light Drifter, which is a little more Zelda.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I guess for now Ill just play through the rest of the good Ys games

faint panther Apr 18, 2020, 1:21 AM

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I need to play more Ys.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Maybe see if I can get Trails From Zero to work

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I checked out the pirated version first because I wasnt sure it would run on my PC

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Ended up being the right call

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It didnt

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:22 AM

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is Yakuza rpg enough?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:22 AM

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I mean, its RPG-esque

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Ive played the Spinoff

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It was good

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I have 0, 2 and kiwami ~~but never actually tried them~~

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I especially liked how absurd the combat is

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Or the fact that your partner likes to make an entrance by dropkicking whoever youre fighting

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:24 AM

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God Eater?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Played all of em

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Nice

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:25 AM

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My second-most favourite monster hunter clone

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After Freedom Wars

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:25 AM

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Lmao

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:25 AM

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You saw nothing

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I did not expect Freedom Wars

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:25 AM

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It was really, really good

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Just from a gameplay perspective

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The hookshot adds a lot of movement and flair, and being able to cut off parts of the "monsters" youre fighting to weaken them and gain extra resources is cool

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Mutant: Road to Eden? Great XCOM clone

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:26 AM

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I think I have it on the EGS

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Im generally not big on XCOM games unless theyre not random

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Like Invisible Inc

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:27 AM

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The Amber Throne?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:27 AM

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Well, the attacks are not random

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Also Ashen

As Jim Sterling said. It's the Dark Souls of Dark Souls Clones

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Doesnt look like my thing, Amber Throne

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I also reccomend Absolver now it has a free weekend

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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it is? ouch, too many games

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:28 AM

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I bought Absolver such a long time ago

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Never played it past 30 minutes

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Oh! Did you play Remember me?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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Probably should

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Yup

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:29 AM

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ELEX?

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It's EuroJank but I enjoyed it immensely

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:30 AM

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Ive heard of it, its a german game after all

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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The Last Remnant is a Real Time JRPG btw

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Didnt like how it looked though

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Its Dragon Age-Like

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Looks turn-based to me

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Did you saw Ashen?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Yeah

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I was not a fan of Dark Souls

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Just not my kinda style

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:32 AM

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Its ATB-ish

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Hunted: The Demon's forge?

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Its old tho

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:33 AM

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Mmh

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Doesnt look like Id enjoy it much

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Welp, enough reccomendations

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I'm spent lmao

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Fair

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I think I got a couple good ones out of that

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Sorry

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Its alright

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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Which ones?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:36 AM

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That was helpful

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Pandora Tower and Cosmic Star Heroine

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Oh, cool

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Maybe Shining Resonance after all

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I gotta get through the games I already have first tho

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:37 AM

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Also Type Zero then lol

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:38 AM

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Oh yeah

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But I already was keeping an eye out for a sale on that one

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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Oh, Republiquè?

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:39 AM

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God I hate the Trails from Zero thing

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It cant copy a file because the file is being used by a process

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That process being itself

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That bug has plagued every attempt to install the damn thing

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:40 AM

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Also, I'm following a Game called Edge Of Eternity, being game based in FF

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I'm loving it and although Turn-based it's worthy to keep an eye on

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It's chapter based, tho

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I was keeping an eye on that one as well, but its still in early early access

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:41 AM

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I know, I'm just asucker for chapter based games

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As it lets my imagination run rampant

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Im looking forward to Sea of Stars

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But sadly thats 2022

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 1:42 AM

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Same

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And the fact they bombard me with ads only make me more anxious for it

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Republiqué was the same, I followed each episode religiously

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Can't believe I spent an hour reccomending games

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Well, If anyone wans a new game to play just Scroooooooooooooooooooooll up

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 2:31 AM

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thanks for the long list, part of it became part of my future to play list already

raven harbor Apr 18, 2020, 5:35 AM

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I've been playing RE4 on Professional for the first time, to keep pace with a buddy playing it on Normal for the first time, and the Garrador cage literally doubled my death counter lol

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 12:31 PM

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Lol, I played it back in the day

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Now, I'm anxiously waiting for the remake

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 12:35 PM

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I'm sorry to be a bearer of bad news but there's no confirmation anywhere for an RE4 remake being a thing

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all we have is rumours and that's i

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it*

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and by confirmation I mean from either capcom or the dev studio themselves

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 12:59 PM

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Meh

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I am patient

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I know It's matter of time

sudden torrent Apr 18, 2020, 2:28 PM

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I am still unsure what is there to remake

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minus the better controls on pc

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 2:30 PM

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Actual Spaniards as Voice actors ron

faint panther Apr 18, 2020, 2:57 PM

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You don't need to remake the game just to fix the controls, though.

opal jewel Apr 18, 2020, 3:35 PM

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LEC and LCS finals this weekend I am EXCITED

raven harbor Apr 18, 2020, 3:47 PM

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If there weren't multiple inside sources talking about it, I'd be less likely to believe news of a remake

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I think a remake would be Fine, assuming they keep around what people like about this one, and don't drop the ball like with Nemesis

ornate trellis Apr 18, 2020, 4:28 PM

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My cat keeps talking with me and my heart is on its melting point

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He tried to lick and meow at the same time and made such a cute noise

tender cobalt Apr 18, 2020, 4:31 PM

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That’s called being a worthy one 🐈

ornate trellis Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 PM

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🥺 zagluv dusa

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 4:53 PM

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it was snowing yesterday and today all the snow melt and there are four mosquitoes on the screen door

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I may be wrong, but I don't think that's traditionally how seasons work

tender cobalt Apr 18, 2020, 5:10 PM

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They were seeking refuge ❄️

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 5:32 PM

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you're right, I'll open the door a bit so they get warm air

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 5:55 PM

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And warm blood

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 7:02 PM

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don't worry, I'm pretty sure that those are boy mosquitoes, so they won't be drinking blood

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...abort, abort, a female mosquito just joined the party

upbeat scroll Apr 18, 2020, 7:08 PM

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You're a mosquitologist?

desert minnow Apr 18, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Bargain your safety by offering them your relatives

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Also only female mosquitos bite afaik

upbeat scroll Apr 18, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Well you will be by the end of this, I guess

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You'll have a whole colony staying with you

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 8:39 PM

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Lionheart, the same thing happened directly after REremake with "multiple inside sources" but those who 'predicted' RE3remake got the majority of the info wrong outside of RE3make being a thing

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Which in hindsight was a fairly obvious thing consodering how much assets from RE2make could be reused

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Whereas with RE4, literally everything needs to be remade from the ground up

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Not to mention the source being reported on is pure rumour with nothing to back then up

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Similar has happened with gta 6, silent hill and heck the RE series as a whole

tender cobalt Apr 18, 2020, 8:44 PM

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Aggy ❤️

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 8:45 PM

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Peach klinkLove

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Are mods...

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The men behind the slaughter?

tender cobalt Apr 18, 2020, 8:47 PM

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We got to take into consideration Capcom’s history: they love making remaster-remakes of their games

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:47 PM

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Capcom will make Resident Evil games with 3 reiterations

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But won't give us Captain Commando

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 8:48 PM

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The big thing with RE4 comes down to are they willing to put years worth of dev time into a remake when they can releaese another copy of an already existing remaster for

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And make a good chunk of money off that alone with little to no risk on their part

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Yeah, it's completely unnecessary for RE4 and a blatant waste of development time/resources.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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This is the thing

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Plus without any of the original Devs around, why bother.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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If they make a RE4 remake, it's just with PS4 in mind

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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PS5 you mean

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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Sure, whatever

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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If a RE4 remake happened it would be for next gen.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:50 PM

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But if they remake it for console, they have to port it to PC

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Because fans will want that "superior version" as well

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That adds more development time because capcom never wants to launch platforms with big gaps of difference

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And there's the "extra content" they seemingly want to procude

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Resistance with 3, for example

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Resistance was done by different Dev team

tender cobalt Apr 18, 2020, 8:52 PM

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I wonder why they abandoned Captain Commando (because that’s where they got their name lol)

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:52 PM

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Resistance still costed money

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 8:53 PM

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It did, it was initially going to be its own thing

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Captain Commando is their real mascot, yeah

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Nope.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:53 PM

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But sadly companies don't make beat em ups ever since we left the arcade era

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Mega Man is.

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That's why Captain Commando got sideline'd.

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Superseded dat boi

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:54 PM

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Mega man got a strong fanbase quickly

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But captain commande was made with being a mascot in mind

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:54 PM

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That's because Mega Man, at least MMX, is DOPE

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But yeah due to immense popularity in NA they changed it.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I'm still upset we're getting 0 Captain commando games

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:55 PM

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I didn't even know who Captain Commando was until like ten seconds ago so I'm not beat up about it lol

tender cobalt Apr 18, 2020, 8:55 PM

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At least he made an appearance in Namco X Capcom hehe

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:55 PM

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ALL the recognition he had in the last 10 years was a single video for something about the OG game

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:55 PM

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He looks like an adult Mega Man lol

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Adult Mega Man in Saiyan armor with Woody's sheriff badge and Duke Nukem's head

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:56 PM

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https://youtu.be/OFB3mjPRnBY

YouTube

Capcom USA

Capcom Beat 'Em Up Bundle - Launch Trailer

Captain Commando invites you to play Capcom Beat 'Em Up Bundle, available now for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and Nintendo Switch - Steam at a later date! Features seven classic arcade games: Final Fight, Captain Commando, The King of Dragons, Warriors of Fate, Knights of the Rou...

▶ Play video

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Look at this beauty

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:57 PM

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Ahh so it's a side-scroller beat em up.

tender cobalt Apr 18, 2020, 8:57 PM

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I liked playing beat em up with my brother when we were kids

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Whoever is playing CC sounds like James Willems from Funhaus

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Same with my lil sister, though we were playing mainly Golden Axe on the Sega Genesis

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Double Dragon, too.

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And the Power Rangers side scroller

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 8:58 PM

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The simpsons game

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It's one of my favorite beat em ups, if not THE best one i played

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:59 PM

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They had that in a cabinet at my local movie theater growing up.

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Same with Mortal Kombat.

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 8:59 PM

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The simpsons had a beat em up game klinkO

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Yeah.

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Marge uses a vacuum cleaner.

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I always picked Bart because he skates around on his skateboard and also uses it to beat the heck outta people.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I picked homer because of his god tier air move

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:00 PM

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I love the Scott Pilgrim beat em up too.

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 9:01 PM

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Niceu, i knew the hit and run games were a thing and great fun (the GBA version is cursed though iirc)

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:01 PM

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I liked the tag team attacks too

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Although i feel playing it solo is lackluster

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:02 PM

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It was HARD AF solo

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I rarely got past the first boss fight as a kiddo.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I completed it solo a couple times

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:02 PM

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I love the X-Men side scroller beat em up as well

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And of course the Turtles in Time

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:03 PM

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I kinda wish

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Marvel vs Capcom still got love

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But infinite bombed because capcom dropped the ball

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Yeah.

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I love Spidey in those games

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:04 PM

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If they had just made better models, avoided pandering to the marvel movie fans, and ADDED CYCLOPS, it would have done well

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Speaking of Cyclops

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:04 PM

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But the game was just made with the movie fans as the main market, which is a bad idea

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:05 PM

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When tf are we going to get a film where he's actually a competent leader of the X-Men or are we forever cursed for him to be a background character/secondary love interest.

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Cyclops is so cool in the comics

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:05 PM

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Cyclops is one of the best charactersof marvel

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Yet he's put as "he's there he's cool"

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:06 PM

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For real

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I mean I love James Marsden but dang those OG X-Men movies did him and Cyclops dirty

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I grew up thinking he was a jerk until I read the comics

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:07 PM

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God

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The worst sin

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Was the glasses

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WHY would you give that to cyclops

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Hahahaha

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I actually like the glasses, like, as glasses.

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They look cool.

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But yeah why not give him his dope visor

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:08 PM

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The whole idea is that he has that line across his face

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It's his NAMESAKE

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Hahaha.

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Right?

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I dunno.

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Marvel acquired Fox tho so they have the Fantastic Four and X-Men now don't they?

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:09 PM

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Yep lol

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But fr

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I can only assume both will be in this next phase so here's hoping.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:09 PM

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No Dr Doom and no Cyclops on infinite

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It was already too much that he wasn't in UMvC3

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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No Doom either??

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Infinite is a doomless game

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They put captain marvel tho...

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For some reason

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Like she's ok

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Whoa

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Carol Danvers' Captain Marvel is my second fave Marvel character.

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But no Doom is a crime.

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He's like one of the best villains in Marvel.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:11 PM

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"Villain"

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He literally became god and quit because it was boring

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That's being a chad

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:11 PM

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He kinda fixed things too during all that.

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That whole arc was awesome.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Yeah, i like to think

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Doom taking over the world is... a good thing

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At least in his newer arcs

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Back in the 70s he was a throwaway baddie

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:12 PM

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Yeah.

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Now he's a genius.

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Like Reid but cooler in every way haha

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:13 PM

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But yes the roster for infinite is odd

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But i LOVE the system

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You can tag in and out of combos as you feel like

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And infinity stones are good although soul stone is busted

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:14 PM

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When did Infinity even come out

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I think the last I played was 2.

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Did you ever play the OG X-Men vs Street Fighter?

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Like

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October of 2017

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Yeah i played it

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It's good and simple

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Back when people just liked to punch eachother in the face

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Good ol' days.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:16 PM

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K so captain marvel is like doom, but rushdown oriented

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:17 PM

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I remember playing SF2 with my sister and just spamming Blanka's spin move on her

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:17 PM

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You're wicked

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:18 PM

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I still remember how to do it.

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Hold back then push forward + punch

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Hahaha.

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Is Blanka GREEN or YELLOW?

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Yes

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Haha.

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:20 PM

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I don't like charge moves tbh

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:20 PM

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Oh they're busted.

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But ~7/8 year old me did not care

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:21 PM

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No like

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Charge moves where you hold back

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They are just not fun for me

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:22 PM

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Who did you usually play?

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Not much thought went into my character choice back then besides aesthetics

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Wow the same lil sis I used to spam Blanka on just invited me to a FB group where everybody pretends to be part of an ant colony

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This is the penance I pay

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:29 PM

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Well i like a bunch of rushdown

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:31 PM

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Doom is an interesting character

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Because he absolutely is a villain

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But it is said that he is an effective ruler

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Yeah he has 3 projectiles for some reason and can fly

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Like why is your j.HP a gun?

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Doom is sometimes toeing into antihero territory.

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There's a lot of storylines where he isn't in an antagonistic role.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:33 PM

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I mean he was an anti-hero before

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:33 PM

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More accurately

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Infamous Iron Man

odd grove Apr 18, 2020, 9:33 PM

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He FOOTDIVES into hero territory

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:33 PM

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Was it infamous?

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I cant recall the exact name

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But often he is a neutral character

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:34 PM

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It was Infamous.

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It ran in 2016.

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It was written by Bendis who has done some of my favorite Spider-Man stuff.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Mmh

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No idea if it was good

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Im just vaguely aware of the plotpoints

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Of course it was good. x]

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It's only 12 issues iirc, so it's a quick read too.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Mmh

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Ive not actually read comics much

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Gotham Academy was the only one I read all of

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:38 PM

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I got into it because it was something my dad left behind when I was a kiddo. He's not dead, he just split. I guess he was super into art and comics and stuff, left behind this huge tub full of comic books.

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All sorts of stuff. Spawn, Uncanny X-Men, Spider-Man, etc.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:38 PM

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Mmh

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I guess comics in general are seen differently in germany

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Like, I grew up with the Asterix Comics

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Because those are bigger here

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Asterix, Lucky Luke, Tintin

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Those Ive read most if not all of too

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:40 PM

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I've read Tintin!

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Tintin is great

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Yeah.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Asterix is my favourite of the three tbh

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:40 PM

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The movie was super good too.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:40 PM

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But its also the biggest one of the three in germany

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It had everything, animated movies, live-action movies, comics, even video games

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Surprisingly good video games

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:41 PM

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I think I saw Asterix in the papers here sometimes

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Its probably just a european vs american thing

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Oh dang I didn't realize it was about Ancient Gaul warriors during the campaign of Caesar

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Or perhaps even a german/french/belgian vs rest thing

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Yup

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:42 PM

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I've read the book Caesar wrote about that.

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Super interesting.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:42 PM

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Its set when Caesar has conquered all of gaul

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All except one village that refuses to be conquered

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The year is 50 BC. Gaul is entirely occupied by the Romans. Well, not entirely... One small village of indomitable Gauls still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the Roman legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Totorum, Aquarium, Laudanum and Compendium...

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Haha.

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:43 PM

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It also loves its puns

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The bard who sings terribly is called "Cacofonix"

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 9:43 PM

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Dang Panacea is a snacc

hasty kernel Apr 18, 2020, 9:44 PM

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The druid is called "Getafix", the chief "Vitalstatistix"

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The german version has different names

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But theyre also puns

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But yeah, those comics were huge here

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Maybe still are

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Marvel and DC less so

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I finished journey at last

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flying about and chirping was fun

tranquil cloud Apr 18, 2020, 10:23 PM

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I love journey

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One of my favorite experiences ever

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I had the same companion the whole time through the first time I played

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And I’m pretty sure neither of us had played before

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So it was really great

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Journey really did a splash back in the day

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I hadn't opportunity to play it until last year

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By the way a reccomendation I forgot yesterday

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An horror indie game called Apsulov

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Horror+Norse Mythology

tranquil cloud Apr 18, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Ooh

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I can’t really do horror games

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But that sounds cool

toxic steppe Apr 18, 2020, 11:04 PM

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I tend to avoid them because it's an oversaturated market.

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Some are p. good tho

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 11:12 PM

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journey is great because it's basically impossible to harm other players and yet you are given ways to help fellow travelers

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plus the ambiance is just amazing

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wish that war dragon creature(?) didn't munch my scarf though

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I need to finish abzu some day after I get the white cloak in journey

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horror games... I feel like most horror games are too dependent on gore?

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 11:18 PM

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See memories of old is great if you are into journey-like

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And I know recommended it three times already but Lost ember is also a great journey-like

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 11:20 PM

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what was the game with the girl Kay again?

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 11:20 PM

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Sea of Solitude

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Personally I got my eyes on that game since EA announced it in E3

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Also yes if you are into Journey play it too, although in that game there are hostiles creatures

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 11:35 PM

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thank you, noted

serene tulip Apr 18, 2020, 11:35 PM

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You know what I like about video games that I don't like about real life? Maintenance is easy.

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Click a button, order a unit to do it, tear it down and rebuild it.

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Just wall it off and start anew

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Don't have to clean my Minecraft house.

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Don't have to maintain my satisfactory manufacturer

wide ember Apr 18, 2020, 11:40 PM

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true, but real life maintenance sometimes brings joy

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like the time I found a fiver in a book

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 11:40 PM

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aWY76dNvXyo

The teaser still gives me chills

YouTube

Electronic Arts

Sea of Solitude: Official Teaser Trailer | EA Play 2018

When humans get too lonely, they turn into monsters. That’s what happened to Kay. But she’s not alone – this ocean is full of creatures just like her. Finding them may be the key to changing her back.

Sea of Solitude is an upcoming third-person exploration game from Jo-Mei Ga...

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faint panther Apr 18, 2020, 11:41 PM

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@desert minnow I heard that Fallen Order is a completely playable if rather unexceptional action RPG.

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If nothing else it's an unoffensive Star Wars game for those of us that didn't mess with the new Battlefront games.

hexed hollow Apr 18, 2020, 11:54 PM

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The unfortunate thing with the horror genre is that bad horror sells just as well as good horror in some cases it sells even better

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For example Agony, a game that lived up to it's name by being an agony to play

fervent zenith Apr 18, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Oh yeah got ravaged by critics

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Shame as it looked great

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Dreadout otoh is janky but enjoyable

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Also Indonesian folklore is wild yo

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If Hellblade counts as an horror game I want to recommend it

flat prism Apr 19, 2020, 12:02 AM

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I wouldn't count hellblade as a horror game

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I'd say it's thriller verging on psycological horror

flat prism Apr 19, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Forgot we don't have pic perms, interesting

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:03 AM

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You can post link

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Mmhm, imgur links or something similar works

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Condemned was great

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:05 AM

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I still need to go back and finish hellblade (probably better to start over at this point)

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:05 AM

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Specially first one

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Mmhm, I've heard good things about the first condemned

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Yeah it's the weird but satisfying gunplay

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Also The Evil Within

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Apart from having watched speedruns I've not seen much of condemned

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:07 AM

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SPECIALLY the second one

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Moons of Madness although it's more in the atmosphere that in giving the creeps

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To the point that ||The horror doesn't start until one third of the game||

flat prism Apr 19, 2020, 12:11 AM

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The evil within?

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God I hated that game

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The camera was just so awkward, the stealth was whack

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:14 AM

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Oh

flat prism Apr 19, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Btw, also haven't finished hellblade yet

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Do you know Getting over it is classified as psychological horror in Steam?

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I did and I loved it

flat prism Apr 19, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Those are user applied tags

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They're often there for the meme

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:15 AM

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I know still hilarious

flat prism Apr 19, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Speaking of horror though

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Are there any new interesting releases? There have been leaks on resi8 and re4make but idk about much esle

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Those are rumours nothing more

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Hellblade 2

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:17 AM

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World of horror is meant to be good

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:17 AM

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GWvictoriaMeguFace

hexed hollow Apr 19, 2020, 12:18 AM

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Any new news on hellblade 2?

mild pelican Apr 19, 2020, 12:18 AM

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it's hard to make good horror game, though it's very easy to make just any horror

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pretty sure hb2 would be more slasher than 1

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:19 AM

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Also Dreadout 2

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I heard good things about The Coma 2

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Also no new on H2

flat prism Apr 19, 2020, 12:24 AM

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it's hard to make a good horror game

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Currently working on one, can confirm

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It's even harder when there is a meaty narrative alongside the horror aspect

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 12:47 AM

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Opinion on alien isolation?

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I liked it

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Even if it dragged on too much

mild pelican Apr 19, 2020, 12:51 AM

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since aliens vs predators 1999 i didn't thought xenomorphs can be scary enough

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 2:25 AM

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But yeah, again doing a good horror game needs a perfect balance of unrelated factors

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You not only need to create tension but to keep it

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Now how to give breathers to the player

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And not resort to many cheap tricks

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 2:48 AM

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@fervent zenith good horror games work around the unknown

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Something you don't understand fully, or that you cannot figure, is rather scary

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Like mathematics

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 2:49 AM

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Many horror games nowadays use this (or lack it, in some cases)

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You can take any horror game and you can see that, aside from atmosphere, horror is created from the unknown

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Like, five nights at freddy's

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Like it or hate it, it's a very good experience if you are to play it blindly

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However, the fear of the unknown is lost once the player finds the strategy

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This isn't the case for ultimate custom night, which introduces a rather interesting mechanic. A new enemy could appear all of a sudden, no clues of who. And most of the times this happens, the player loses not because of this new enemy but because they ignored that which they were currently facing

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Or mimics in Prey

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An enemy that you play a deadly game of prop hunt with is rather interesting and scary

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 2:54 AM

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I finished prey

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 2:55 AM

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How was it?

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 2:55 AM

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It was good

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 2:57 AM

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Ye

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But anyways horror games are interesting

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Because they are a genre on top of another one

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You have shooter horror, survival horror, and possibly every game could be horror with the right idea

faint panther Apr 19, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Horror character action.

raven harbor Apr 19, 2020, 3:14 AM

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That's one of few cases I can't see working

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But I'll also recommend World of Horror

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 3:22 AM

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@faint panther horror character action where YOU are the big scary thing

faint panther Apr 19, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Bosses are DMC characters?

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Instead of dodging attacks you shrugh them off like the though dude you are

faint panther Apr 19, 2020, 3:23 AM

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"Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry"

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Bosses would be generic "hero" types from horror

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So

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"Featuring Ash from the Evil Dead series"

tranquil cloud Apr 19, 2020, 4:19 AM

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Lost Ember and Memories of Old for Journey-lovers, you say?

velvet fjord Apr 19, 2020, 5:15 AM

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prey is like the only "horror" game I've played

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and system shock 2

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horror being used loosely, since I wouldn't call prey a horror game so much as a game with scary elements

serene tulip Apr 19, 2020, 5:19 AM

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I have complaints about the battle plan of the defense of Minas Tirith

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Like, once they're past the first wall they can't really use their siege engines anymore.

tranquil cloud Apr 19, 2020, 6:12 AM

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I tried to play that fan-made SCP game and was gibbering in terror within 5 minutes

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Which one of them all?

tranquil cloud Apr 19, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I did play Prey

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I wouldn’t consider it horror

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Oh I don’t know, is there more than one? I played one where you start out being lead to a room containing SCP-173 and then the lights start flickering

odd grove Apr 19, 2020, 6:15 AM

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SCP is very broad

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There are several fangames

tranquil cloud Apr 19, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I know SCP itself is very broad

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This was a number of years ago

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Like... at least 5

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So maybe there weren’t so many at the time

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 10:47 AM

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@tranquil cloud SCP: Containment Breach

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The guy who made it went professional and now made an indie game that it's in Early Access

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I played it and is good

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/602960/Barotrauma/

Steam

Barotrauma

"Work together to explore and survive, and/or sabotage one another and let the ship go down in fire and flood."- Rock Paper ShotgunWELCOME TO EUROPABarotrauma is a 2D co-op survival horror submarine simulator, inspired by games like FTL: Faster Than Light, Rimworld, Dwarf Fort...

Price

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Survival 2d horror coop game

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Where you are part if a submarine crew on a horror infested sea

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You can be either captain, an engineer, a mechanic, a security officer, a doctor or an assistant

wide ember Apr 19, 2020, 6:05 PM

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the dungeon meshi reddit discord is going to live stream moyashimon anime, does anyone want to come?

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 6:06 PM

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Oh moyashimon

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Now that's some memories

tender cobalt Apr 19, 2020, 6:07 PM

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What's a dungeon meshi?

wide ember Apr 19, 2020, 6:09 PM

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dungeon meshi is a manga where a group of adventurers decided to eat monsters in order to survive

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it's a comedy adventure

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I don't know if It's possible to link only the stream, but the discord is [link removed due to end of stream] and it's in the voice channel

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wait

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did I actually managed to only link the stream somehow

desert minnow Apr 19, 2020, 6:13 PM

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imo it's one of the few good mangos as of late

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it's surprisingly good, the plot is decent and the setting is really interesting

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plus it's not afraid to get creative at times either

tender cobalt Apr 19, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Ah, I see tizomg

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 6:43 PM

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Damn moyashimon still releasing?

north hamlet Apr 19, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Pretty sure the anime and manga are both finished

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They're probably just rewatching it

wide ember Apr 19, 2020, 6:52 PM

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yeah we are just marathoning for the sake of it

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we are in episode 2 now

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it still looked high quality as anime for 2020

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Yeah, although it gets outright bizarre at times

wide ember Apr 19, 2020, 6:59 PM

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I like how they could've cheated at animation by using the mustache-over-mouth trick but they decide to animate the entire lower face if not the whole body whenever they don't draw the mouth

copper lark Apr 19, 2020, 10:59 PM

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please help.... ive been pulled into league

toxic steppe Apr 19, 2020, 11:00 PM

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RIP

north hamlet Apr 19, 2020, 11:16 PM

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it was nice knowing you

hasty kernel Apr 19, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Whats your favourite character?

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Appearance-wise, since you probably havent played all of them

tender cobalt Apr 19, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I liked to play as Ms. Fortune

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I only had access to 10-15 of them so I couldn't play them all but at least she was free

wide ember Apr 19, 2020, 11:55 PM

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skullgirl?

fervent zenith Apr 19, 2020, 11:59 PM

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Is SkullGirl a pun?

wide ember Apr 20, 2020, 12:04 AM

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I didn't intend this one to be a pun, I just said it because Ms. Fortune is a skullgirl character

tender cobalt Apr 20, 2020, 12:07 AM

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Ooh, I just looked her up and yeah, there's also a Ms. Fortune in Skullgirls shadesmile

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But no, I meant Ms. Fortune the pirate in LoL

wide ember Apr 20, 2020, 12:13 AM

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aw

fervent zenith Apr 20, 2020, 12:38 AM

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@wide ember It's just that SkullGirls sound like SchoolGirls

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 12:43 AM

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@fervent zenith SküllGirls

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Miss Fortune is fun in league

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She just uh

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Has a questionable visual design and voicelines

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Especially with her lore rework

fervent zenith Apr 20, 2020, 12:51 AM

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Like half the old female champions in LoL

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Very fanservicey

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 12:56 AM

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Id say close to 100% of the old female champs

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Even Leona, who is supposed to be a fully armoured knight ,has the unfortunately common boob plate, and relative lack of armour

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They only really got better several years into making the game

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Even then its better moreso than good, really

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Still annoyed at how they wasted Kaisa cool potential on another fanservice design

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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LoL story is straight up garbo

tender cobalt Apr 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Savage

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:06 AM

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They constantly retcon it

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And try to make it "cool" or something

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Like for example

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Riot just retconned the lore of AN ENTIRE CHARACTER so that they could put 2 more champions in a cinematic

fervent zenith Apr 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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I suppose if one goes into a moba caring about the story they are for a roughing

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:12 AM

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Actually leagues lore was really bad

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But now it's really good

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They retconned things for a while, but I'm not aware of any major recent retcons not related to reworks?

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:14 AM

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@hasty kernel There was a card in LoR

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:14 AM

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I play LoR

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:14 AM

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The lore text on it talked about a hoverboard made by the kid's teacher, that he dispatched because it wasn't worth it

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Ah, that

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:15 AM

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The NEW canon tho, the kid was Heimer's pupil i guess? then jinx steals a thing and loses it, ekko finds said thing and then turns it into a hoverboard

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:15 AM

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Ekko turns it into a skateboard, really

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But I suppose that's true

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It's just so minor I can't feel bothered by it

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:16 AM

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It's still a very embarrassing inconsistency

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It breaks a lot of continuity just for the sake of fanservice

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:16 AM

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Ehh

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Minor things like this happen all the time in big interconnected worlds

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You don't wanna know how often MMOs have story elements contradict each other

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Even FFXIV

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:18 AM

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At least it isn't "there is a huge crisis going on" but society seems to be thriving?

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:18 AM

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I also wouldnt call the flavour text of a single card "a lot of continuity"

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:18 AM

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A big mistake i see a lot in modern media is mentioning issues that a community faces without actually showing it

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Yeah that is a common trope

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Anyway to just briefly get back to league lore, they actually put a lot of effort into it with the big rework, and I think it's quite good

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Lots of short stories I really like

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Like "House on Emberflit Alley"

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Maybe, i suppose. Although they do sleep in a lot of suff

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Like, the whole Jarvan IV thing

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Well you gotta let your story progress

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Seemingly Jarvan is actually a prisoner and the one we see is just LeBlanc?

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:20 AM

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Can't have it all out at once

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Oh that? That's old old lore

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With the rework it's no longer the case

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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Yeah but Jarvan's lore is preeeetty stale

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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True

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He will get his moment though

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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All we got is ONE appearance in the lux comics

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:21 AM

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They just set up plot points for him with Sylas and the Lux comic

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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And apparently his romance with Shyvanna is canon

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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Now Quinn on the other hand

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Shes kinda absent in the lore

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:22 AM

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She literally has a bird and that's it

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Like, she's barely more relevant than Gragas

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Gragas

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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I mean she has her own story

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But she doesn't feature anywhere, yeah

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:23 AM

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But LoL character have these statuses

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Braum is a folklore hero

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Garen is the commander of an army

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Well even that depends on a case by case basis

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Ezreal is a treasure hunter who got into several big business...

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But Quinn?

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She has bird

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And Gragas?
Hell if i know

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Jayce is just an arrogant inventor defined more by Viktor than himself

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Vi is just "lol police brutality"

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Not all league champs are important, and I think that's fine

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But Quinn

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She might as well not exist

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:25 AM

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I wanna see just how important Veigar will be

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He WAS the world's most powerful tyrant's personal mage

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That's just a lot of untapped potential

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Still annoyed Vi got into LoR before Viktor did

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:26 AM

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Sadly, Viktor would only work as support for the already too supported spell decks

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They want some sort of balance on types of cards

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:28 AM

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Not necessarily

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Viktor is all about improving people

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Can't improve people if the deck doesn't play em, yknow?

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Anyway, Veigar doesn't really have much storytelling potential

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He is a yordle gone mad who thinks he is evil, but really isn't that evil, or at least not effective at it

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 1:31 AM

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Yeah but he's undeniably one of the strongest mages on the lore

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If we go by regular, you know, mortal mages

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 1:33 AM

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He is, but he is ultimately a joke character

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It'd be weird if he had plot relevance

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 10:05 AM

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I need some emotional support i guess...

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 11:50 AM

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Morning. So, I'm a casual comics reader with a library card that has hoopla access and idk where to start in their expansive comics section. My fave major publisher characters are batgirl, nightwing, and deadpool.

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And ig I'm looking for something breezy and fun?

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Also open to smaller publisher suggestions, my fave comics in that category are wicked+divine and snotgirl.

hushed zenith Apr 20, 2020, 11:55 AM

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Have you read the Squirrel-Girl series?

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 12:06 PM

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Not yet

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Ah, right, she's the toughest marvel char (w the squirrel control)

hushed zenith Apr 20, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Her comics are super fun, well written, and have a lot of humour. It's a good ride start to finish, and if you wanted something that keeps you wanting to read it without like... having to worry about overwhelming drama or doom and gloom, I'd recommend her stuff!

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Plus, her interacting with other Marvel characters tends to bring out the best parts of them (imo) and the writer tries to keep the stuff as consistent as possible.

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 12:12 PM

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Ya, I've seen the bit where she's op bc of the squirrels and she seemed nice, so I was like. On the list.

hushed zenith Apr 20, 2020, 12:12 PM

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:D Good taste

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 12:14 PM

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Plus I've also heard the writer had a background in comedy, which is always a good sign.

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But ya, my current list looks like: finished 3 volumes of venom (2018?), 1.5 volumes of grayson (2016), and both volumes of mother panic.

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And at volume 7 of wicked+divine. And waiting on new snotgirl volume.

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Also gonna do a deadpool read later.

tranquil cloud Apr 20, 2020, 4:00 PM

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Doesn’t Ryan North write squirrel girl?

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The guy who does Dinosaur Comics

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And did the choose your own adventure version of Hamlet

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 4:02 PM

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uhhh, i honestly don't know

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(aside from tom king, who i knew from a bunch of great standalone-readable trades, gail simone, and the wicked+divine writer, i don't know the comics writers well)

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also, now's the time to mention i have a near nonexistent memory for names

raven harbor Apr 20, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Clearly the correct answer is the Archie Mega Man run

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If you ignore most of the criteria you put forth, I mean

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 4:52 PM

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wait what

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i'm beyond confused

autumn pasture Apr 20, 2020, 5:01 PM

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have you read nimona?

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the author is also the creator of the new she-ra series

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:03 PM

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i've read lumberjanes, which was what led me to she-ra (but uni work pile up left me at season 1 ep 3)

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but ya, i do recall that it's both a webcomic and a collected digital book i can borrow

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:07 PM

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@desert wadi i have some vintage comics to reccomend you

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Or maybe, a few good issues of Deadpool

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:07 PM

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considering the extent of the digital section, i might be able to track them down!

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i have a deadpool mug and a poster, so def down for them

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and maybe two shirts

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:08 PM

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Have you read The Good, The Bad and The Ugly?

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:08 PM

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the title doesn't ring a bell

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Yeah that's one of the best ones

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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ah, makes sense why i don't recognize it, i started at the 2015 run!

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:09 PM

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It's a two part story about Deadpool's own past that he reluctantly must remember

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Also Deadpool kills Deadpool

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:10 PM

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since deadpool's entire point (and why i find him the most relatable out of the marvel heroes, despite his superpowers) is that he uses humor to cope w his past, it's prob not gonna be pretty

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:10 PM

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It ain't

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Idk if i should tell you more since spoilers and all

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But it gives us a very pure look at him

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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i mean, i know the broad strokes but ya, the spoilers

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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Also, you should give Deadpool versus the dead presidents a go

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:11 PM

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ohhhh, that sounds like a fun one

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:12 PM

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As the title implies deadpool fights zombie versions of the presidents of the USA

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This arc takes over several issues each focusing on some presidents and the fight

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I have the full thing in physical and the covers are among my favorite in the history if comics

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:13 PM

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ya, i've had to swear off physicals once i started uni bc storage concerns

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:14 PM

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Also, for older ones

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I suggest you to read The Eternaut

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I can't stress this enough, The Eternaut is one of the best pieces of Sci Fi horror of all media

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:15 PM

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okay, that political commentary/scifi combo totally sounds like strugatskies so i'm down

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:16 PM

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Please do

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Whatever it takes, you got to

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It's a very light read, but maybe lenghty

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If it helps, the author would pretty much support his own comic being pirated

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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uhhh, what

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(my dad does writing as a monetized hobby so it def made me anti-piracy)

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:20 PM

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He was a die hard communist

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He literally made a biographic comic about Che Guevara

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:22 PM

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ah, i see

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 5:23 PM

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But if you wanna buy it, then by all means

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Although it's hard to find it depending on where you are

desert wadi Apr 20, 2020, 5:29 PM

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it's on google play

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wait nvm

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(but ya, i may be in business school but i do have a conscience in 1 area)

copper lark Apr 20, 2020, 6:01 PM

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@hasty kernel im rlly late LOL im a sona/neeko main

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Ah yes, Neeko is strong tomato

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I like Neeko

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:04 PM

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@hasty kernel lol bad

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Dota OK

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:05 PM

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League good, Dota meh tbh

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I never liked Dota much, its just clunkier and hampered by its history

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Also its lore is one that indeed is bad

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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What?

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How dare you say the lore is bad

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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I mean it is

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Things I know about Neeko: LGBT Chameleon?

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:07 PM

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Give me one part of the lore you say is bad

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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It was an afterthought that they spent no time on

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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The parts they do think are GLORIOUS

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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I mean, the lore is always going to be hampered by the fact that it was an afterthought

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Neeko is canonically gay, yes

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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no matter how good it is

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Though thats not really a big part of her personality

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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maybe NSFW language? Dota Lore: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da_KSTeBBGk||

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Its pretty much just mentioned with a couple interactions

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Like her trying to ask out Shyvana to dinner

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Yeah, I only know that because some folks threw a fit about it

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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Shyvana canonicaly likes Jarvan tho

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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what with there being only 2 sexualities, Straight and Political

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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And he likes her back as stated in the Lux comics and other stories

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:09 PM

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I mean yes, but Neeko doesnt know that

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Neeko just sees attractive dragon lady and wants to go on a date

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She has a couple interactions like that

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Personally i dislike neeko because of her third person speak

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Fair, though I dont mind it

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Mostly because it's done in a "dumb" kind of way?

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Not so much "dumb" as much as "unfamiliar with the language" I think

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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You say Neeko is smart?

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The latin dub is extremely awful tho

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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She is ... neither?

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Her voice is far too high pitched

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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I only use the english dub, so I wouldnt know

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:11 PM

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Fair

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Although dota lore has really good things

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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I mean it has a couple interesting concepts here and there

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Individual characters that are reasonable

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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For example the entire plot about the ancients and the mad moon

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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The thing as a whole is bad though

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Why is it bad?

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I ain't judging you just, asking for some clear points

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Its very disconnected and internally inconsistent

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Its like a bunch of ideas thrown at a wall linked haphazardly together with incredibly weak links

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:13 PM

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Any game without a blink dagger like mechanic is significantly worse than DotA

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My hot take

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Dota is more knowledge and strategy based

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Jumping over half the screen away on a 15 second cooldown

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Ehhhh

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Knowledge, yes, but not in a good way Id argue

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Strategy, not really

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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Yeah?

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:14 PM

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To be honest

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I don't think there's going to be a meaningful conclusion to this conversation

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Dont get me wrong, Dota is strategic

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But so is league

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Like, as an offlaner you have to know when to be offensive, when to soak xp or when to retreat to the jungle

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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A) because the answer is already know, Blink Dagger >>>> all

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Dota doesnt really have a strategy edge

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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League is more mechanically based

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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B) because people play different Mobas for different reasons

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Like, reflexes and landing skillshots

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:15 PM

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Id say its more that league is also mechanically based

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Ontop of being strategic

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Though Id say it depends on the level of play youre at

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In league due to the mechanical edge, strategy is less relevant at lower levels

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But at higher levels it becomes extremely important

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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But that's out of the question, since they are different games with different philosophies

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Anyway my main issue with Dota is its clutter from the days of the WC3 mod

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Still, have you ever tried to check the lore in depth?

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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A lot of things that exist because of the original engines limitations

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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Because MAN, Arc Warden's lore is amazing

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:16 PM

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To think he used to be a gnoll

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I think I remeber Arc Wardens still

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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Now he's the divine sibling of the two forces trying to conquer a world, but after being shattered in million of copies he's weaker but must wage war and defeat both of them at once

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:17 PM

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I thought it was ... not that interesting?

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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Basically Arc Warden trapped the Dire and the Radiant in the mad moon

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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I guess the big problem is that Dota 2s lore doesnt get the space needed to develop

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You have a single small blurb per hero, and thats more or less it

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:18 PM

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After they broke free, the world was taken over by them and so they fight to set their influence

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That argument isn't that Dota's lore is bad but rather undeveloped

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Well, yes, but the second kinda comes from the first

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:20 PM

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A big thing that sets them apart is that dota takes itself less seriously than LoL

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:20 PM

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It makes the lore shallow, and often disconnected

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Ehhh

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I cant say I agree with that

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It takes the lore less seriously perhaps

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But thats not neccessarily a good thing

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:20 PM

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Like you got bristleback and tusk whose entire relationship is that tusk beat bristle up and he's mad he had to pay for the drinks

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And the newest character is literally "rebel phase 60 years late"

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:21 PM

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wait

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are you talking crap on gam gam?

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:22 PM

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No

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I'm just saying LoL is too gritty to have done that themselves

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@hasty kernel What do you think of Timbersaw's lore then?

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I mean, the lore itself is still a bit shallow

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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His village was attacked and slaughtered by ents and so he developed a heavy trauma and believes every tree to be a threat. Which in the lore is actually true

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:23 PM

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But god damn does he have great voicelines

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Its one of my favourite Dota 2 VOs

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Eh, I also dont agree that League is too gritty for that

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I mean take Heimerdinger

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:24 PM

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The lore of dota has a lot of potential

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:24 PM

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His lore is basically how he developed automatic defense turrets by trying to improve a ballgame

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:24 PM

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For example, Invoker

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:24 PM

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And slightly overdoing the power

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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He has one of the largest amount of voicelines in the game

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Yet none of them are said towards another player or character

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Invoker is also a good VO

serene tulip Apr 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Puck is my favorite character from a voice line perspective

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:25 PM

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Because his character is so arrogant he refuses to acknowledge anyone else

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@hasty kernel OK have you played Nocturne?

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:29 PM

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If you mean the league character, yes

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I have played all of them

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:29 PM

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No

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I mean

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Nocturne's lore was awful

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But i mean, the game

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Shin megami tensei 3

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Nocturne

hasty kernel Apr 20, 2020, 7:30 PM

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Oh

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No

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Also Nocturnes lore now is ok

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Nothing special, but not bad

odd grove Apr 20, 2020, 7:31 PM

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!?

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Pal

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If you liked persona 5

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