#off-topic-discussion

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opaque quail
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It might have also been calling him a d-bag. 🤔

tranquil cloud
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But... a douchey frat bro is not a good thing, it’s offputting c0kkiness, not alluring confidence. Not powerful, just an overinflated view of his own importance. Can’t actually do what he thinks he can do, just has a false view of himself as competent.

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Lol maybe but it didn’t call me on that before

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So I figured that wasn’t blacklisted

opaque quail
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Ahhh no you're right, it has a built in thing to try to catch censors like you used in the first one.

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For the mistaken word.

tranquil cloud
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Right, got it

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But the word I was trying to use IS okay, right?

opaque quail
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Yeah, it just catches it in any word (like it does with any swear combined with other words).

tranquil cloud
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Makes sense

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Anyway I think whoever this meme chad is is like... a twisted reclaimed version of chad as an insult lol

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Like frat bros took offense and were like NO, being a Chad is a GOOD THING

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Btw... I don’t mean that all men in fraternities are bad!chads

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Just the ones with the characteristics I mentioned

odd grove
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@tranquil cloud That's the joke, it's a satirical over the top version that goes beyond absurdity

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With the "inferior" version being the normal version, sometimes exaggeratedly timid

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While the chad is just... This god-like entity who has seemingly infinite power

tranquil bay
midnight tapir
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Not sure where to post this question but I need to ask: how tall is Zag? I'm putting him beside a character who's height is around 195cm, and I'm not sure whether Zag is going to be near the same height, taller or shorter.

faint panther
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Zagreus is definitely shorter than 195cm.

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Probably in the realm of 170cm.

slim bobcat
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make him 120 cm

tardy ore
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Lmao that tweet

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Hey guys, do JoJos ever sit down?

No, they Stand.

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(conclusion: Zagreus is actually a jojo, and dio is dio)

fervent zenith
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Can we Agree he didn't inherit his height from his father? shadesmile

midnight tapir
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Come on, leave him some promising advantage against his mighty sonshadesmile

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And yeah, I think he's possibly less than 195cm, in the end I decided to make him around 175 to 180cm

honest glade
tranquil cloud
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195cm is super tall!

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I imagine Zag to be around 175cm

mild pelican
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like, you know..
Zagreus: 179 cm
Hades: 180 cm

wide falcon
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...

hasty kernel
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Huh

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Yknow I always thought Zag is indeed pretty tall

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Although, looking at some of the other characters

autumn pasture
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we know he's short according to asterius, which admittedly isn't saying much, but we also know he's theseus's height

hasty kernel
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Yeah he seems actually really short

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I think he is shorter than Theseus by a smidgen

rose copper
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is apollo a thing in this game ?

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met most gods but not him yet

indigo walrus
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Apollo is not in this game and AFAIK Supergiants don't plan to include him. They wanted to focus on less known gods.

ionic viper
flat prism
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i'm still wondering on why they're not looking for greek translators

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i mean, it's on the nose

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and not a lot of games are translated into greek, a translation would instantly attract a small crowd

autumn pasture
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they probably have to focus on the big few same as everyone else, unfortunately

flat prism
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bummer

serene tulip
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I read that as a geek translator

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and I'm like, "I'm pretty sure SGG has a few fluent speakers there"

autumn pasture
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oh all the translators are geeks for sure

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/j

wide ember
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(... not wrong tho)

fervent zenith
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Given Hades setting. They aren't Geeks, but Greeks

wide ember
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geek greeks

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they repair your pc while adding feta cheese to paella

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...speaking of paella, I really want paella right now

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but saffron is so expensive

serene tulip
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I have no idea what saffron actually tastes like

autumn pasture
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it's good, but a little overrated

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i put it on toast once and my dad was so mad

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good toast tho

faint panther
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I've only had it once or twice.

wide ember
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cheap paella as found in supermarkets often replace saffron with turmeric powder to save cost

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but the taste is different

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honestly I prefer with turmeric, though fresh slices

autumn pasture
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fresh turmeric is very good

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that yellow curry feel

wide ember
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huh, apparently lethal dose of saffron is only 5g

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this is why there's usually no more than 1g of it per portion

autumn pasture
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really

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i did not know that

wide ember
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your dad was probably just mad because it's so expensive

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it's about $3000 per 100g

north hamlet
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5g is a lot of saffron

wide ember
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if it's premium A grade

north hamlet
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Not an amount that's hard to eat, but quite a lot

wide ember
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the supermarket quantities are usually tubes of 0.5g (for $15)

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the $50 metal boxes are 5g

north hamlet
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Wonder what the rest of the saffron plant is like

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Just eating the stamen is pretty weird

north hamlet
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The toxicity might be why

serene tulip
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more humanity f yeah stuff

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Plant: Evolves toxic elements to keep from being predated
Humans: Mmmmmm Tasty

north hamlet
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Same thing with capsaicin lol

serene tulip
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and caffiene

north hamlet
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Except worse because people also breed plants for more of it

wide ember
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capsaicin doesn't affect parrots so some humans like to make red pepper rice bowls for their bird friends

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caffeine is even weirder

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not only we get addicted to caffeine, but we can also more than tolerate theobromine

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theobromine is the poison responsible for the chocolate flavour, which can kill bears but humans love it for the taste

north hamlet
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Also kills dogs

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No human treats for your dogs

wide ember
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most animals die from it

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but humans have specialty stores for chocolates

serene tulip
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I mean, tobacco kills humans but we have specialty stores for it too 😄

wide ember
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same with alcohol

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we are weird

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funny thing is, the same poisons that put enough pressure on the heart to kill most other animals is what makes human hearts beat longer, allegedly

mild pelican
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you know, there was one episode of Columbo.. when the murderer tried to get rid of his dogs, who killed his friend with a certain trigger word.. he came to the police department, and tried to feed the dogs with poison. But he got caught doing that, told, that it's just a chocolate and proved that it's edible.

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for years i couldn't figure out how he could eat the poison or if he just wanted to treat the dogs

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untill i've became a dog owner myself and found out that chocolate is actually poisonous for them

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like grapes and sugar substitutes

tranquil cloud
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I didn’t realize humans were so uniquely tolerant to chocolate as poison, I knew it was poisonous to dogs but I thought that was because dogs are usually a lot smaller than people

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But it can kill bears??

faint panther
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Toxicity is all contextual.

autumn pasture
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humans have spent ??? years building up an immunity to iocane powder

fervent zenith
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I have built during a decade my immunity to the toxicity of Social Media

fervent zenith
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Guys

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I was watching a gameplay of resident evil 3

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And it gave me strong Coronavirus vibes

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Pretty unsettling

faint panther
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tranquil cloud
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@fervent zenith try playing plague inc lol

tranquil cloud
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And then you realize the best strategy to kill all humans is to make a highly contagious virus whose symptoms aren’t very fatal so people don’t really care and it spreads like crazy... and then mutate it into something that causes organ failure

fervent zenith
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Literally first sentence of the game

tropic garden
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@faint panther the wheee! when he slid the salt i am LOSING it

faint panther
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"Get outta here!"

flat prism
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Thing: paella is a Spanish dish

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Not greek

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But it's still bomb with plenty of feta on

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But still, if I don't see hades get an underground gyros joint I'll be low-key sad

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Junction Jan's but undergound gyros

wide ember
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that was my point

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spanish paella, when it was made, had no feta cheese

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but the greek geeks had to add feta cheese

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so greek paella is when it has feta cheese on

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it's like, when rice was cultivated by eastern asians and north africans, it was not meant to be served with whipped cream and mashed pineapples

autumn pasture
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okay pineapples i have heard of, whipped cream???

wide ember
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it's a dessert salad

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"Ingredients
3 cups water
1 1/2 cups Alessi Arborio Rice
2 tablespoons butter
16 ounces pineapple tidbits drained
2 cups chopped strawberries
3 cups mini marshmallows
1/2 cup granulated sugar
2 cups heavy whipping cream
maraschino cherries optional"

wide falcon
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I'll take note of that

autumn pasture
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whack, okay

north hamlet
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Looks like rice pudding up to 12

blissful charm
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that looks uncomfortably sweet

hasty kernel
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Yeah

blissful charm
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impulse bought red dead redemption 2 let's see how this goes

hybrid hare
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ohohoh

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honey you've got a big storm coming

serene tulip
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What movie should I watch?

toxic steppe
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What kind of movies do you like?

serene tulip
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Things that are funny or funny adjacent.

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Occasionally thinky things?

toxic steppe
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JoJo Rabbit is really good if you haven't seen it yet.

tranquil cloud
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Booksmart is funny

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@toxic steppe have you seen What We Do In The Shadows?

toxic steppe
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The Edge of Seventeen is something I watched on a whim and I ended up really enjoying that/thinking it was funny.

tranquil cloud
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Either the short film or the series

toxic steppe
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Yeah I've seen both multiple times.

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It was my introduction to Taika but I found it because I love Flight of the Concords and it was also written by Jermaine Clement

tranquil cloud
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Ah yeah I love FOTC too

toxic steppe
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I love the movie but I genuinely think the show is better.

tranquil cloud
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I love both haha

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Give me all the roommate vampires

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Though I thought every single scene with Colin Robinson was pure gold

serene tulip
tranquil cloud
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So yeah @serene tulip if you’ve got the energy for more than a movie check out WWDITS on Hulu

serene tulip
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Isn't there a movie by the same name?

sharp grail
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yep

tranquil cloud
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Yes

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The movie is great too

serene tulip
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I watched half of that

sharp grail
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i loved the movie

tranquil cloud
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Half???

serene tulip
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I got distracted or something?

sharp grail
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i usually dont watch comedy movies? or many movies in general. but it i found it funny

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i watched some of the show too but not all of it

faint panther
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@serene tulip Please tell me it wasn't as bad as the time I was watching Superbad at college with a friend and 30 minutes in I go "Welp, I'm bored, see you later," and leave, was it?

toxic steppe
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I looooooooooooove movies.

serene tulip
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O-m-gott

toxic steppe
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I am definitely a cinephile.

serene tulip
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Look, just as long as you don't make a lot of noise or a big mess I don't care what you do in theaters

toxic steppe
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I DIDN'T EVEN CURSE

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I've gotten two false strikes now ;;

serene tulip
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And like, in the back row

toxic steppe
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I was just saying I love foreign films and follow film festival and award show entries and stuff.

wide ember
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sounds nice, I wish I love movies that much

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I can only manage a low affection for them these days

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The Grand Budapest Hotel was a movie that I liked

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very good use of colours, pacing, internal coherence, attention grab, emotional resonances, etc.

serene tulip
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Jojo's mom is the best.

toxic steppe
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Yeah! Honestly I love all the characters.

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ScarJo plays her super well.

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And Taika uses some really good cinematography involving her character.

odd grove
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Oh jojo rabbit talk?

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Jojo Rabbit is a great movie

toxic steppe
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Oce just started it

chilly briar
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Oof, that wasn't a false strike lol

honest glade
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I'll recommend Knives Out. Some places only list it as a mystery or a thriller, but it's actually (intentionally) hilarious.

wide falcon
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I got a question, can a side character be a mary sue?

upbeat scroll
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hmm, if you're using really loose and agressive terms like mary sue you're not gonna get precise definitions

wide falcon
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yeah, aite

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well, sorry for wasting your time

upbeat scroll
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I mean, you could say the old man that gives advice in stories is a Mary Sue because he has no flaws

wide falcon
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oh

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haven't thought about that

upbeat scroll
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Side characters don't necessarily need to be as developed, it's okay for them to be kinda one dimensional and maybe even flawless

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If a story has really well developed side characters that can even be a problem sometimes, it might affect the tone

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If you point out that a character is flawed every time you introduce them, even if they don't matter, then you're writing a very cynical story

wide falcon
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I didn't mean it in that tone but thanks

upbeat scroll
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Oh I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm speaking kinda generally

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Thinking about stories like this is interesting

wide falcon
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I'm sure it is

flat prism
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I'll take greg's advice here:

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what is the role of your character in your story

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what purpose do they serve

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and will them not having any flaws as a character at face value help fulfill that purpose

wide falcon
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noted

honest glade
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You might want to read up on the concept(s) of "Flat vs Round Characters" and/or "Static vs Dynamic Characters".

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Flat and/or Static Characters are not necessarily Mary Sues, but a lot of people often tend to misconstrue or lump the terms together.

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But to answer your original question? Yes, a side character can end up being a self-insert and/or highly overpowered + contrived + flawless. It's not a phenomenon exclusive to protagonists and antagonists.

hasty kernel
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A side character can be a Mary Sue, but it comes with a slightly different dynamic

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Could even possibly be a good story if the actual main character is a snarky observer

wide falcon
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thanks, the both of you

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and no, that's not an april fools joke

tardy ore
fervent zenith
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Lol I have that game on my backlog since 2014

blissful charm
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been trying to play rdr2 but i keep dying in the tutorial

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being bad at video games is suffering

flat prism
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what difficulty do you have it on babs

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also, honestly you might just be dying for doing what rockstar doesn't want you to do

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the game is rather heavy on scripted sequences and doing almost exactly what it wants you do to during missions

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it's not inherently bad if you do whatever the mission says but the moment you try to get creative you get a mission failed

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the one rockstar game that tinily broke that a little was la noire with its case investigating

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but team bondi got destroyed during that games development so

blissful charm
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oh dang i didn't even know there were different difficulties

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also part of the problem is probably that im using a trackpad and not a mouse but i hate using a mouse

fervent zenith
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Lol, with trackpad a TPS sounds like hell

blissful charm
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yeah so far it's....... not working well

odd grove
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Tbh rdr2 is an extremely badly executioned game

fervent zenith
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The problem is that modern games are NOT made with trackpad on mind

odd grove
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You can notice by the fact the button to get on your horse is the same as the one that chokes the nearest civillian to death

fervent zenith
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Also the name is misleading

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Despite being in the title, the Star Wars robot doesn't appear at all 🙃

tranquil cloud
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Did @serene tulip survive the rest of Jojo Rabbit?

serene tulip
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I stopped watching it about halfway through to go to bed

tranquil cloud
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Lol I don’t know anyone else who can just abandon movies partway through like that

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What about the FLOW

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What about the carefully crafted rollercoaster for your emotions to ride???

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You can’t just throw yourself off halfway through the ride

toxic steppe
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I've stopped movies so I could sleep plenty of times.

tranquil cloud
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I just don’t start them if I’ll need to go to sleep before they’re done lol

hasty kernel
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Yeah

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Because I know if I start a movie/show/game shortly before I should go to sleep

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Ill just stay awake

serene tulip
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I'm not good at sitting still during movies

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so their run time isn't a good measurement of when I'll actually finish it

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because I pause them a lot

toxic steppe
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Yeah I don't have the ability to know the exact moment I'm going to pass out, so sometimes I'll commit to something, then get exhausted in the middle.

tranquil cloud
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I just don’t put something on if it’s going to end past midnight, even though I’m often up later than that anyway

tardy anchor
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oh i generally watch movies in parts just in general

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i dont have the patience to sit thru a whole movie, so i watch it over a few days in 30 min chunks or so

serene tulip
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I have a "Sometime after noon" meeting I'm supposed to have

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and I want to commit to doing something

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but I have no idea when they're going to pop in and be like, "When's good for you?"

serene tulip
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@tranquil cloud also, spoilers Jojo Rabbit: ||I get this sneaking suspicion his mom is gonna die and I didn't want to sit through that right before bed||

fervent zenith
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Holy damn, in some countries they started selling the ff7 remake already

wide ember
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no money even if it gets released here

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holy capitalism, the official cloud strife wrist watch sells for $2499.99 (+TAX)

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and pre-ordering the FF7 remake only enters you into the raffle to potentially win this watch

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it's not even fancy looking

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"Since this is a custom-ordered item, a no-cancellation policy will apply once the order is placed. Please also note that this product is not immediately available but will be shipped to you upon availability."

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ouch in the wallet

fervent zenith
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Pssst

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That's spare change compared to THIS

wide ember
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this car is more expensive than my parents' suburban townhouse

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actually, it's more than twice as expensive

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I think when the covid-19 lockdown is lifted, I'll go make a colour print of a chosen picture from the games, which will cost me less than $5

fervent zenith
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VII or XV?

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The print I mean

wide ember
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yes

fervent zenith
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Of course

wide ember
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can't wait to see videos of cloud crossdressing though

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I mean, there is the trailer, but it's not enough

fervent zenith
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Bruh

hasty kernel
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Oh yeah, the remake is coming out soon

wide ember
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I hope cloud can fight while in that dress

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and let us keep that dress on him for the rest of the game

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wait, is the ff7 remake only part one?\

faint panther
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Yup.

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At least, what they're releasing right now.

wide ember
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I see, my wallet can rest for now

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because that means no Vincent and no fighting giant mecha created by the planet as self defense mechanism

hasty kernel
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Yeah, it's split in 2

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I hope part 1 has Elena

serene tulip
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Final fantasy 6 is best final fantasy

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fight me

wide ember
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I'd fight you but I haven't played ff6 so I can't

raven harbor
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I thought the plan was 3 parts?

wide ember
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the original game was at least 3 parts, so it's possible that the remake is following that

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so far articles state that the ff7 remake will be in multiple parts, but no clear info on how many parts exactly

fervent zenith
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Lmao r/games has put an EGS banner as April Fool's

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Hades included

upbeat scroll
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what, is r/games still angry about egs

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i can believe it

faint panther
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I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

odd grove
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Anything i can do to lighten depression and anxiety?

wide ember
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depends on what type of depression

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you may need sunlight, comedy movies, tragedy movies that make you cry and secrete endorphin, a hearty dish based on potatoes, store-bought serotonin, a nap or good sleep, etc.

odd grove
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Idk, i just got told i have symptoms of depression on top of my high anxiety

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I wanna play games but people make me mad

blissful charm
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have you considered talking to a counselor?

odd grove
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I am

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I do sessions once a week

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Talked a lot about my complexes, worries, feelings...

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There are a lot of things somewhat obvious but i have a long way

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I just wish i can get self esteem, it would make all this so much easier...

olive junco
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That's good. It took me forever to decide to go to a counselor.

odd grove
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Yeah, i went to an institute and they sent me to a proper professional

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I have been doing cognitive therapy for a while now

olive junco
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I've just noticed how strange it is to see that message come from this profile picture

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maybe I should change it

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nah

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My college has free counseling for a few sessions

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its very nice

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I bet it really helps people take the first step to make it so accessible

odd grove
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I would go to mine, but...

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Covid and all

fervent zenith
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They in fact aren't

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This us just a joke to make the die hard haters mad

hasty kernel
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3 parts could be possible

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Not sure though

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2 seems more plausible

vivid ridge
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what an announcement to make on funny japeday

hasty kernel
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Really hope its not just NA

blissful charm
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oh hey i played rdr2 with a mouse and shockingly enough i didn't immediately die

serene tulip
wide ember
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/rolling girl plays in the background

serene tulip
ionic viper
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@north hamlet that still sounds like a super sweet idea!

north hamlet
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Yee

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Also the cafe has been super cool and allowed us to move the booking to a later date

upbeat scroll
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damn, my birthdays on the 10th

north hamlet
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Happy birthday in advance

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I hope you can get something fun worked out

hexed hollow
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Merry Birthmas in advance

north hamlet
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Also has anyone else had a sudden uptick in the amount of mostly online friends suddenly getting in contact?

ionic viper
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bold of you to assume i have many online friends to begin with

upbeat scroll
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thanks all

velvet fjord
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omg I found Flick in new horizons today

he's so hilarious

lofty yacht
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someone make a mod to bring back the old T-Pose for Stygius

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please

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I need it...

north hamlet
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I just realised that ice cream trucks count as takeaway/delivery food vendors so they can operate in a city with a strict lockdown in place

faint panther
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Ice cream trucks surrounded by a dozen child-sized hamster ball.

faint panther
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The subtitles are incredible.

copper lark
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~dead chicken with old milk~

slim bobcat
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tag urself i'm organic tear gas

copper lark
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im Future generations ᵇᵉᵃᵗᵉⁿ

wide falcon
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I T A L I A N W A T E R

tardy ore
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Future Generations, Beaten just sounds like one of the Hades 'boss defeated' captions.

mild pelican
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18th day of quarantine, the only food left is raw pasta, mayo and water, and now watching this

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who were that guys again, who can become fed with just watching food? maybe they can share some experience

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also, now we kinda know what kind of dishes are made at the underworld kitchen.. but that's for another channel

pale river
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Hey guys I’m trying to create paper boats as my town tune in ACNH but I’m not musically inclined 😭 would anyone be willing to help lol

glass jolt
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Thought this belonged on this server stumptLol

mellow spindle
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Thought the same thing when she told me this a couple days ago shadesmile

odd grove
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Just learned Hades is an SMT clone 😔

serene tulip
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Hades is a Hoplite clone

echo cloud
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I don't know where best to ask this so, how do I get permission to post pictures?

faint panther
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On place we can directly post images is in #fan-works, otherwise you can post any rule-safe image link in any channel.

echo cloud
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Aaah, ok, I get it. Links only

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Thank!

velvet fjord
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didn't expect new darkest dungeon dlc

But I'll gladly take it

faint panther
wide ember
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Long Gone Days from that bundle seems of good quality

serene tulip
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Hey folks

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I don't know who might need to hear this, if anyone, but

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Your struggles are valid

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I believe in you

fervent zenith
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thanks bro

north hamlet
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You too oce

faint panther
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Playing Risk of Rain 2 for the first time.

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The game decided I'd had enough and I was killed by "The Planet".

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What the hell just happened?

sudden torrent
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ah I see The Planet has killed you.

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currently honestly if you get eliminated by it, it means some wack magic thing happened to make up for current state of the game and somehow end the game atm.

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without just dying randomly

sudden torrent
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though a lot has changed since the last game I must say too. Drones aren't as useful to buy and the whole lunar system sure has a lot of in it.

toxic steppe
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I love the RoR games.

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I'm glad RoR2 finally has Artifacts.

sudden torrent
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oh yeah same

serene tulip
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@faint panther the planet kills you when you use the obelisk

faint panther
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Tendrils were shooting out of the ground and poking me and inflicting slow. Happened in the same area twice.

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That's the obelisk?

serene tulip
#

o.0

#

where/when did this happen?

faint panther
#

Second level.

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Is that out-of-bounds, then?

serene tulip
#

oh yeah

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on the sand level

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last time I was killed by those it was still ???

serene tulip
#

friggin overloading elder lemurian

faint panther
#

Stone Titan, just gotta take cover when he's aiming at you?

serene tulip
#

pretty much

faint panther
#

I hate the Imp Overlord.

serene tulip
#

I dislike clay dunestriders more

toxic steppe
#

I don't mind Dunestriders, just be aware of when they start succ'ing and wait it out

#

We should do some MP RoR2 some time.

serene tulip
#

do y'all play with mods?

faint panther
#

Nope.

velvet fjord
#

I forgot that there are ror2 mods

opal jewel
#

Trying to get into the Valorant beta and riots server wont let me connect my twitch acc this is a n i g h t m a r e

north hamlet
#

Twitch seems to be having problems right now

opal jewel
#

am upsetti

serene tulip
odd grove
#

@faint panther Lemme help you with RoR

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I'm what people call a Risk of Rain expert

toxic steppe
#

I'll add you when I'm home in a few!

odd grove
#

Out of home

#

Bro that's cringe

faint panther
#

Some people don't have the option of staying home.

odd grove
#

Maybe...

toxic steppe
#

Yep! Unfortunately I still have to work.

faint panther
#

I keep getting shrekt in the Siren's Call. Should I drop to Drizzle until I get more unlocks?

odd grove
#

@faint panther Ok so lemme help

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The Unit is a really though boss

#

It's the exclusive TP boss on siren's call

#

Or is it a regular enemy what bothers you?

faint panther
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I don't think I'm used enough to enemy patterns to deal with the number curve.

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Or I'm not hunting down enough items.

#

I haven't encountered the unique boss, I just got three-shot by a regular enemy.

toxic steppe
#

There's no shame in playing on Drizzle to get unlocks.

#

It's probably what I'll do because the extra difficulty isn't needed if the goal is to just unlock characters/Artifacts.

#

Drizzle is also just good to be on until you become more acquainted with the game overall.

#

You just running the Commando rn?

faint panther
#

Until I got Huntress, did one or two with MUL-T and put them down.

toxic steppe
#

I usually just run Huntress too if I want to actually complete a run.

#

But I love Acrid.

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And the Loader.

faint panther
#

I only have the three so far.

toxic steppe
#

I need to get the Artifacts now that they've dropped.

#

Command + Sacrifice is ridiculous.

trail crest
#

UwU is this some RoR2 talk I see?

#

If you’re having trouble with the sirens call boss, there’s a fun little exploit you can do with the mercenary that destroys flying bosses

#

When you use his utility skill, if the hit ends inside an enemy the momentum of the attack transfers into the enemy and knocks them into the ground

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Flying enemies take crazy damage when smacked against surfaces so it’s super effective against vagrants and units

#

It’s a bit tricky to pull off but it’s super consistent

tardy ore
#

I personally just prefer Drizzle/Rainstorm because it's more fun to snowball on...

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Monsoon kinda wants you to skip items, so it also kind of sucks without Command Sacrifice Swarms memery

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But those three... pog

trail crest
#

Yeah but playing on drizzle comes with people calling you a drizzlet

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(Tbh though I do play drizzle for most of my unlocking)

#

At the end of the day though, the obvious best choice is editing your game for a ton of lunars and stacking glass every. single. run.

hasty kernel
#

I tried playing Risk of Rain 2, it felt kinda shallow?

sudden torrent
#

did you only play commando?

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because if so, then yeah it's kind of understandable

#

Commando is really shallow character

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so basic compared to other characters lol

hasty kernel
#

Him and Huntress

#

Its more the fact that your kit doesnt really change during your run

fervent zenith
#

Risk of Rain 2 adds a whole new dimension to Risk of Rain

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A third one to be exact

hazy jacinth
#

Ye

sudden torrent
#

Your abilities don't change much yeah, but the way you do comes down to the way you build yourself.

#

there are second versions of abilities, but they are behind the challenges.

tardy ore
#

@trail crest People who use "drizzlet” as a pejorative are kind of losers ngl

#

Also, items change your gameplay drastically.

#

Commando is... basic, and built to be. Utilitarian by design. I will say it feels kind of lame for literally everything else to be gated behind a few hours of him, though.

#

But I guess he does have that upside of Just Working really.

faint panther
#

I did get the Commando's second dodge, which I like over the default.

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At this point I'm hunting for Ocular HUDs to get the Huntress's alternate primary.

sudden torrent
#

Commando does just alright since really he is jack of all trades, with focus of his items really can be any very common items. Since if you get soldier's syringes for him you are set for a few stages tbh.

tardy ore
#

Commando's alternate Right Click is significantly stronger though, which is a lot of fun... his second alt skill isn't all that great because timed fuse grenade, but his alternate shift I hear is good.

faint panther
#

Oh yeah, that's already my favorite pick-up.

#

Got like 4 once on MUL-T and spamming the rail gun was kinda fun.

tardy ore
#

Personally, I'm a fan of the Runald/Kjaro bands.

#

There's a hidden synergy.

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Well, more of a hidden property.

sudden torrent
#

oh yeah I know, these are fun too.

tardy ore
#

They either proc together or not.

#

Commando Sticky Bomb was nerfed, but it's still silly to stack all thirty-seven

#

I love Artificer, although I'm struggling to master her new kit. Mostly because my aim isn't precise enough for wisps.

#

I'll get there with enough Command shenanigans

#

Loader too, loader is great. REX as well

trail crest
#

REX is a beast

#

Especially with the cube, he just kills everything

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Get a few backup mags and your set

#

And his healing scales amazingly with shaped glass

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Huh

sudden torrent
#

Commando - Jack of all trades, really makes up for fact it's easy to build for him.
Huntress - Autoaim, fast but easy to kill. Glass cannon of the survivors.
Engineer - Focuses more on setting up defenses in one place or on the go, in any case is quite powerful and can hold his ground.
Artificer - Air fixed, got quite the powerful kit, but needs focus on the big crowd clean ups.
MUL-T - chunky Commando, unless we are looking at its different abilities can be considered as a tank with close encounter fixation.
Mercenary - Huntress, but takes up close to face value monsters. Does good 1v1 battles or clean ups with his utility.
Loader - Tanky Melee class. Things go flying to punch.
Rex - Hurt, get back HP, the basics of HP stealing and crowd controls.
Acrid - another crowd control type of character, focused on getting them on status and boil down HP for easy kills.

trail crest
#

Mercenary is also pretty good too

fervent zenith
#

RoR is in EA. Right?

hushed zenith
#

Ye

fervent zenith
#

The second one I mean

trail crest
#

Yeah

hushed zenith
#

speakking of the darn, lunar coin character FINALLY decided to stop bugging out for me so I just got her

trail crest
#

It’s releasing in 1.0 in a few months though

hushed zenith
#

It's been literal months where she wouldn't show up in the shop and is kinda the reason why i stopped playing

fervent zenith
#

Does it already have the basic structure with final boss and ending?

trail crest
#

Not yet

#

Well

sudden torrent
#

same as for Hades

trail crest
#

Kinda?

sudden torrent
#

weapons, systems are built

#

but not the endings

hushed zenith
#

No, but they just added a new area and boss.

#

So we're getting there.

trail crest
#

There’s a way to “beat” the game and there’s a secret boss that also ends your game when defeated

#

But that’s not the final ending

sudden torrent
#

yeah

trail crest
#

The secret boss also got buffed iirc

faint panther
#

I'm getting juuust a little input lag on my mouse.

#

I don't think it's present in-game, but it's there in the menu, anyone else notice that?

trail crest
#

Not really o

#

No

sudden torrent
#

never had that I think?

serene tulip
#

I mean, I totally could be having input lag

#

but I wouldn't notice it since the only character that really relies on reaction time at the moment is mercenary and I rarely play him

#

I had too much caffeine and now I'm hyper and mad at the state of the world

#

and I just want to yell at people

#

and shake them

tardy ore
#

I've been unwisely interacting with conspiracy theorists for hours on twitter.

hushed zenith
#

rip

balmy patrol
#

I have 3 laugh:

tardy ore
#

It's wild, lmao

balmy patrol
#

Dad laugh
Chipmunk laugh
Internet Gremlin laugh

serene tulip
#

I feel like all my laughs are generally the same just like, different intensity

serene tulip
#

If y'all will briefly forgive me for being maudlin on main: I miss that longing I used to get for fictional worlds.

#

Like, do you know how long its been since I day dreamed about being in the setting of a book I'm reading?

#

The closest I've gotten to it recently was when I was reading A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine and I came up with a Teixcalaanli name for myself

#

But mostly just because the naming conventions were interesting not because I actually like, wanted to be Teixcalaanli.

#

(For the record I'd be 61 Bauxite)

#

I didn't go dreaming about what my skyhook would look like or the poetry or anything

#

I may or may not have drempt about falling in love with some rogue information ministry officials but that's not my fault

#

(Twelve Azalea is best boy)

#

(I will fite u)

wide ember
#

I tried to read the first two chapters of A Memory Called Empire and I'm hoping it's not another empire = evil type of story?

serene tulip
#

I mean

toxic steppe
#

What are some examples of empires that aren't evil?

serene tulip
#

Its very much that

toxic steppe
#

Isn't that like an intrinsic trait of being an empire.

serene tulip
#

but its also very............. nuanced

velvet fjord
#

yeah I mean name one non evil empire

toxic steppe
#

Exactly.

#

lol

serene tulip
#

Like, the dedication is, and I'm paraphrasing, "I dedicate this novel to all people who fell in love with a culture that is devouring their own. "

#

The entire premise is a small nation sends an ambassador to keep an empire from absorbing them

toxic steppe
#

It's a good book.

serene tulip
#

but its seriously one of my favorite novels in a while

#

Right now I'm more fond of it than the expanse

#

but that's mostly just because TW kinda fell a bit flat for me

#

and because they refuse to give Amos a gay relationship >:|

toxic steppe
#

Oh, Oceloct.

#

I forgot my Steam pw so I couldn't add you through the browser lol

#

This is my Friend Code: 132546464

serene tulip
#

I... I don't know what that means

toxic steppe
#

Go to Add a Friend on Steam and it will become self apparent.

serene tulip
#

huh

toxic steppe
#

They finally streamlined the process.

serene tulip
#

that's... new?

toxic steppe
#

Yeah.

#

It only took FOREVER

#

To get a decent friend request system

#

lol

#

I'm about to hop on RoR2 to unlock some Artifacts

serene tulip
#

Clairen's Ridiculous Hitboxes has added you

#

Man, the second artifact trial I did was the artifact of chaos

#

and that was terrible

toxic steppe
#

Hehehe

serene tulip
#

because I had a few will-o'-the-wisps or whatever they're called

#

so I killed one stone golem and instantly died

toxic steppe
#

Lil Wisps

#

rip

#

You wanna join, Oce?

serene tulip
#

can't right now

#

returning to a previous tangent though, I can imagine bein tired of "Empire bad" as a theme because its kinda been hit on a lot recentlygenerally

wide ember
#

I just wish there would one good empire at some point, even as it is devouring everything around it?

#

because instead of destroying what it devours, they just bloom better inside it?

odd grove
#

It's my birthday

#

Cool i guess

serene tulip
#

hap birf

serene tulip
#

is there a word for triggered that doesn't come with the baggage that trigger does?

#

like, "this is such a pet peeve of mine that I felt compelled to respond"

hushed zenith
#

irritated, annoyed, upset, tilted.

#

still stinks that a helpful word got turned into a joke or a synonym for those words, though.

sudden torrent
#

happy birthday yes.

odd grove
#

thank

hasty kernel
#

Happy birthday

#

Also, it depends on how you define "empire" and "evil"

#

By the most basic definition, an empire does not even have to be militaristic

#

Its basically just a collection of nations ruled as a single entity

#

One could even make a case for a militaristic emprie not neccessarily being evil

toxic steppe
#

Well, history has shown us that it's apparently hard to expand into an empire without war and the torture/murder of innocent people for land and resources.

hasty kernel
#

Its hard to become a country without a war

#

Thats sadly how history goes

toxic steppe
#

But most of the time the killing and torture was in glorification of ideology or religion.

hasty kernel
#

But a countries past influences, but not defines their present

#

Mine knows that, uh

#

Quite well

toxic steppe
#

Germany?

hasty kernel
#

Germany

toxic steppe
#

Good ol' GPO

hasty kernel
#

But yes, you can make an empire not be evil

#

Even a militaristic one, if you do it properly

#

Hell, case in point: Ni No Kuni 2

#

Well, less on the militaristic part

toxic steppe
#

Realistically, evil isn't a concept that you can project on anything other than man.

#

Empires aren't evil, they're just flawed.

#

It's the people that run them that are evil, sometimes.

#

Most of the time.

hasty kernel
#

As they say, those who want power (and are in the position to obtain it) are the ones least suited for it

toxic steppe
#

Which is why I would make a great king of the world

#

I want zero power

hasty kernel
#

Well its a bit more complicated than that

#

Youd have to be a good leader

toxic steppe
#

The only king of the world I want to be is the kind Leo is in Titanic

hasty kernel
#

Who doesnt really want to be one

toxic steppe
#

"I'm the king of the world!"

hasty kernel
#

Or, one who takes his duty very seriously

#

Like Vetinari in Discworld

toxic steppe
#

There have been a fair share of instances where I've been a good leader while not wanting to be the leader.

#

Mainly because I hate having to shoulder all the responsibility when others knowingly can but are too lazy.

#

I guess some people just genuinely need to be told what to do.

hasty kernel
#

It makes it easier

#

Im not good with making choices

toxic steppe
#

I wish I could be a knight lol

#

If I ever got whisked away to another world that would be my goal

hasty kernel
#

Id just be a court jester

#

Hopefully the king appreciates bad puns

odd grove
#

Morality is subjective

#

Good and bad depends on who judges it

#

Also, i believe there is always some thing good in bad, and vice versa

wide ember
#

wasn't that Russian leader a example of "has zero power and is a very moral person, but failed as leader of a nation due to lack of charisma, leadership skill and cunning"

#

the father of Anastasia

#

empire is often evil because it facilitates power abuse by its very structure

#

however, machines do not have the burden of temptation, since their morality do not have to operate the way ours do

#

so I would be interested to see an empire run by a non-human, and said empire does not resort to assimilation, propaganda, bread and circus and etc.

#

human morality is too de jure "does this hurt anyone" but de facto "does this benefit me or my group", yet a machine swarm or honey bee colony or spider community won't operate under the same rules

toxic steppe
#

Have you read Children of Time?

#

I think I saw it mentioned here before.

flat prism
#

Hi Cale hi sol hi ray WaveBoy

wide ember
#

hi Cygnus

#

no I haven't read Children of Time

#

the closest to the concept that I have described was the benevolent sentient sapient Yogurt mastermind from Love Death Robots

faint panther
#

I should try the Culture series again.

toxic steppe
#

Paid homage to some of my fave 2019 memes

hasty kernel
#

I dont know why I love the Ultra Instinct Shaggy meme so much

toxic steppe
#

How can you not x]

#

I set it up so it looks like he's about to save Sasuke from being choked by Gordon Ramsay.

sudden torrent
#

I suppose really it's funny because uh the character is totally not the kind to be all that anime powerful like and that creates the funny.

toxic steppe
#

That's a sentence I never thought I'd say

hasty kernel
#

Then again Im generally a fan of Dragon Ball memes

#

The show aint good, but they got some good memes

sudden torrent
#

Overly powerful character that can destroy reality the way it is, is powerful.

odd grove
#

Shaggy is a good meme

#

@hasty kernel Do you know Dragon Ball X?

serene tulip
#

I've been self harming on political subreddits all day and I need a hug

hasty kernel
#

I do not

odd grove
#

What happened ocelocto?

serene tulip
#

I just got in a bunch of arguments that I shouldn't have

odd grove
#

@hasty kernel it's like TFS but way more ironic

#

Wanna talk about it?

#

If no, then it's fine

#

People have different opinions

#

Doesn't mean you are wrong

#

Reddit has a lot of people who are way too harsh on others just because

#

Anonymity is dangerous

serene tulip
#

I just worked myself up into a heightened emotional state

odd grove
#

I do that often, too

#

Why don't you try talking about something you like?

gaunt valley
#

I know that very well, too.

#

I think open internet forums are no suitable place to discuss political disagreements.

#

I'd suggest discussing with no more than three people and preferrably not in written form.

#

That is much less frustrating in my experience.

#

Can someone recommend a podcast to me?

odd grove
#

@gaunt valley The official podcast

gaunt valley
#

I'll give it a listen. Thanks.

serene tulip
#

OK

#

Now that I've started my avoidance practice of playing videogames

#

Its really fun to give beetles little mine hats as engineer in RoR2

fervent zenith
#

Sorry If I'm late to the conversation but wouldn't Space Empres the ones who would be the EASIEST to be non-evil?

#

As 99.99999999999% of planets are from nobody and it's simply impossible to colonize everything?

#

||I am actually writing a Space Adventure novel, tho||

#

Based on a pet peeve of mine

serene tulip
#

Have you heard about the lord and savior of Sci Fi the expanse?

fervent zenith
#

Yeah, but HBO expensive

serene tulip
#

The book series is better than the show 😄

#

and its not HBO

#

its amaon

fervent zenith
#

Oy yeah, Brain Fart

#

Too many Streaming Services to keep track

#

Also I literally LOL'ed when they told me the FTL transportation method in The Expanse is called The 'Epstein Drive'

serene tulip
#

its not FTL

#

Its essentially a highly efficient fusion torch drive

fervent zenith
#

oh

serene tulip
#

It allows for constant thrust interplanetary travel at 1G+

faint panther
#

Or more!

#

Agreed, Oceloctopus, I got two episodes in and quit.

#

I'll just wait for book 9.

odd grove
#

@faint panther how's the RoRing going?

faint panther
#

Played a little today on Drizzle, looped.

#

I'll play more tomorrow, I'm about to go to bed.

odd grove
#

Good good

opal jewel
#

Guess who just got musked on by THREE DIFFERENT GARTER SNAKES

#

time to throw myself in the washing machine and hope for the best

#

for context I relocate wild snakes that find their way into peoples yards. best way to help not only the people but the snake too

tardy anchor
#

good for you but also awww nooo

ancient mauve
#

Thank you for your service o7
I hope it washes out soon D:

wide ember
#

(previous question about best chronograph deleted once I remembered rolex)

upbeat scroll
#

its PCS awareness day! if you get a big pain in your ribs whenever you breathe in suddenly, it'll probably go away in 10 minutes and it's not a symptom of anything scary! it's called precordial catch syndrome or "texidor's twinge" and it's well researched! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precordial_catch_syndrome

#

I wish someone had known to reassure me about this when I was a kid, it scared me a lot!

wide ember
#

I had this very often when I was younger but less and less with age

upbeat scroll
#

yeah I thought I had outgrown it until today, when i had a really long one

opal jewel
#

it has a NAME

#

to be fair I have a really messed up chest so I figured it was just from that but STILL

upbeat scroll
#

yeah i was so happy to find out that other people live this too

#

that's why I'm spreading awareness

raven harbor
#

Wow I didn't know that was a Named Thing, what a day to be part of the 10,000

toxic steppe
#

Yooooo I get that all the time and I knew it was a thing, I just had no idea what its name was.

#

Thanks for sharing so next time I get it I don't spiral into an anxiety spell.

bitter surge
wide ember
#

say, could one of those poisonous but edible flowers help with viral infection?

north hamlet
#

It's possible, a lot of medicines are like that

#

Also i tried the folding at home thing and they ran out of work units

faint panther
#

Grey Prince Zote 4, first try!

hexed hollow
#

niceu ^_^

autumn pasture
#

hell yeah, nice

fervent zenith
#

I began playing The Outer Wilds

#

Where was that game all my life?

wide ember
#

is it on sale

#

I've been waiting for it to go on sale on ps4 for a while

fervent zenith
#

No idea, It was a gf present

#

21 euros in EGS

#

The game scared me bloot out of me earlier tonight

hasty kernel
#

Yeah it's very good

#

Best game in 2019 tbh

fervent zenith
#

I was following a signal when ||A $#*&ING GIANT ANGLER FISH devoured my ship||

wide ember
#

aw cute re: gf present

fervent zenith
#

Yeah second anniversary

#

I gave her Crosscode

#

So 20 euros each more or less

wide ember
#

that's so cute

fervent zenith
#

Yeah, I wanted to give her something in person but you know....

hasty kernel
#

Good choice in games tbh

#

Crosscode was the best game of 2018

#

And yeah ||the anglerfish are nasty||

#

You'll ||learn to hate them Tbh||

fervent zenith
#

I already do, mate

#

I haven't advanced much, tho

hasty kernel
#

Well, even more than you do now

fervent zenith
#

Went to the moon, looked at the ruins, and I know I have to go to brittlehollow

#

Also go to Giant's deep later

hasty kernel
#

Yeah the path you take means you could start out learning a lot, or very little

fervent zenith
#

I'm just following the rumors menu

hasty kernel
#

Ah

#

Personally I just went to the planets I thought were interesting first

#

And then to where I figured the next puzzle piece was

fervent zenith
#

I went to the moon because they said an astronaut was there and I thought it was as good as a starting point as any

hasty kernel
#

I think I visited the moon last

#

I just kinda overlooked it

fervent zenith
#

Also Crosscode was also my 2018 goty

#

I want know to follow the harmonica but fir the moment I want nothing to do with those damn things

hasty kernel
#

That's fair

#

Anyway, have fun with the game

#

Whatever path through it you choose

fervent zenith
#

Ok, ty

#

I'll do

wide ember
#

(hey people, Khan vs Kahn and Regions of Ruins are currently 100% off on steam)

#

(Escape from Tethys too)

faint panther
#

For all that Half-Life is supposed to have truly remarkable level design, there's a looot of first person platforming.

odd grove
#

@faint panther Platforming isn't the issue as much as the extremely annoying lasers

velvet fjord
#

the platforming is the one criticism I have with og half life

the rest of the game is phenomenal but xen in particular is really bad

#

even Black Mesa had trouble fixing xen

serene tulip
#

Half-Life has serious Seinfeld syndrome

#

That is

velvet fjord
#

oh yeah definitely

serene tulip
#

It was so revolutionary at its time that it was universally loved and now when you go back to look at it it all seems really overdone because literally everyone followed its example

velvet fjord
#

it was one of the first pc games I played (granted, I was still...many years late) so when I try to describe why it's good it comes off as boring

serene tulip
#

If I were given a new game that frustrated me as much as the track maze did in Half-Life I would quit

velvet fjord
#

residue processing can die in a fire

serene tulip
#

or a vat of acid 😄

velvet fjord
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black mesa is a super good remake and imo could replace the original, but residue is the only chapter where I'll just start a new game at the next chapter

serene tulip
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Like

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unrelatedly

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the Mii song is like

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a legit masterpiece

faint panther
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See, I'm very familiar with the trope Seinfeld is Unfunny, but Seinfeld is actually a bad example of it because it has aged supremely well. It's on a lot at my house and it's still much funnier than most shows today. The Beatles are a better example; they've been outdone a thousand times at this point, but people like to remember their roots, or they're looking back with almost-completely-opaque-rose glasses.

serene tulip
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Question: when did you first watch Seinfeld?

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I feel like part of the Seinfeld is Unfunny trope is that there are a lot of people who think Seinfeld Is funny

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just in the same way that I think Half-Life is an amazing game

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A lot of people think Seinfeld is Unfunny, and I can appreciate that

faint panther
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I'm being a little snarky, but as a little kid.

serene tulip
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Yeah, I think that nostalgia goggles has a lot to do with how people view a piece of media

faint panther
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And I think it's fair to recognize when something has aged very well.

sudden torrent
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I find Half-Life as sort of cookie-cutter series. It's surely not going to be as amazing as next games up the line, but can't really deny that for its time it sets trends and gets ideas going for some other people to work with and think about.

serene tulip
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Dude

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half life 2 was just as revolutionary

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The gravity gun alone

sudden torrent
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yeah all half-life entries are revolutionary not denying that.

faint panther
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I played HL2 before I ever played 1, but Source's physics simulation is still pretty incredible.

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That's a feature has not yet fallen victim to Seinfeld is Unfunny.

serene tulip
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Eh, debatable, the episodes didn't really add much.

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They gave us what we wanted, which was a continuation of the universe

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but all I can remember off the top of my head is an area control minigame

sudden torrent
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Meant more like Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Half-Life: Alyx. I don't really see much added in additions of DLC or well 0.5s of major parts off it.

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my wording is off today (or well off once again) and I am really sorry for inconvenience coming from my end here.

serene tulip
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Unrelatedly

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I finally managed to get to work and some stuff home

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and now I have my fancy hand lotion and its amazing

hasty kernel
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I guess the best way of putting it is that Half-life was revolutionary in a way that didnt age well

faint panther
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That's the vast majority of revolutionary achievements.

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100 years ago we didn't have nuclear power, and if special interests would stop throttling the world for their wallets we could have fusion.

hasty kernel
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Thats not actually the reason fusion hasnt happened yet

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As my old physics teacher likes to say, "Fusion is only 10 years away, and has been for the last 30 years"

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We keep finding new hurdles that we didnt consider beforehand

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Similar to how pc tech has stalled

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Or rather, computing tech

serene tulip
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The question might be how much faster could those hurdles have been solved if Fusion had been seriously funded

faint panther
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I kinda look at it like the IRS in the USA: They've gone on the record as saying they audit and focus on civilians while letting corporations get away with highway robbery because they're underfunded and understaffed, and decades of corporate lobbying and teams of corporate lawyers makes them untouchable because of staffing and funding issues.

hasty kernel
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Let me put it this way

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Fusion would be a major PR win for any nation that discovers it

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There is no chance the US, Russia or China would pass that up

faint panther
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I 100% believe that oil barons with vested interest in their money would either suppress it or slow it down because of loss of profits.

hasty kernel
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The fact that they havent gone all-in means that most likely they realised that its not realistic anytime soon

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Sure, thats not unrealistic, especially given history

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But those have little influence in chinese politics

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I think

faint panther
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That's a fair point.

hasty kernel
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Its more likely that just throwing money at it wouldnt solve the issues

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But I admit, its been years since I last did any research on any physical topic

balmy patrol
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oHo

opal jewel
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Hello everyone and welcome to Riot Games where breaking our main games client is apart of the Riot Games Experience™️

hasty kernel
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Or forcing a change to an alternative account system that is inferior and keeps hundreds of thousands of usernames permanently lost

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For a reason we were never told

chilly briar
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I mean, no matter what solution they engineered, they were never going to please everyone.

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Given they created a world where they had region distinct ecosystems, then attempted to unify them under a single auth service, this was always going to present a large challenge

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More often than not, people are sensitive about their identities, it makes sense that many would be upset to lose their distinct identity to someone else etc

hasty kernel
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Thing is, there was no reason to do it in the first place

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The problem is that the regionlock hasnt vanished

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Its still there

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They just removed the region selector from the login-screen

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But each account is still region-locked

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When I said its "inferior", what I meant to say more precisely is that its basically just the old system, with that changed

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All accounts still work for their game, you just have to have been logged in beforehand, and you have to never log out again

chilly briar
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Didn't they do this to unify the accounts globally to provide a central service for their new products? I swear I read about how they unified it as a result of this

hasty kernel
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That was the public reason

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The problem people were quick to point out is that their second game had already been playable by that point, using the old account system

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In fact, it still is

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Thats also how we know that all they did is change the login-screen, while the underlying system is identical

chilly briar
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I mean yeah, when you're doing any development you start with what you have an flesh out a design for what you want, it's not surprising that they got it going with the existing system but opted for a newer one to remedy any issues they had with the architecture

hasty kernel
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Right, but normally you eventually cut off the old one, as it stops being compatible with what you have

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But in this case, that already happened officially

chilly briar
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that's not normal at all, in nearly every case you maintain historical data

hasty kernel
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Maintaining data doesnt mean letting the old system still interact with the new one

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Itd be pretty pointless to change a system then let the old system still work

chilly briar
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as a transitional phase if you have monumentally large data sets, there is typically a process to trickle old into new or allow interaction between v1 -> vN

hasty kernel
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Yeah, that process happened and finished months ago, officially

chilly briar
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at which point, when the newest system is considered to be at a point of maturity and has proven itself in the environments it serves, you visit the old and determine deprecation strategies

hasty kernel
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In fact, as far as Im aware theyre not even aware of the workaround Im using

chilly briar
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it's an interesting problem, would have been pretty fun working on the architecture lol

hasty kernel
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Well, I say "workaround"

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Its more of an oversight on their part

chilly briar
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Maybe not, it's hard to predict permutations of vast systems

hasty kernel
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At this point Im just waiting for their third game to officially come out

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So I can full confirm my theory

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If the old account works even with that game

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Its legit just the same system with less functionality

chilly briar
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It probably will

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Yeah it's a fairly common strategy to supersede the old systems with a feature limited new system, it helps determine which features are actively used or desired when there isn't enough data to determine or analyse the requirements with a reasonable confidence interval

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good example is the new twitch api, it has a very limited feature set in comparison to the current stable (and deprecated) api

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it's being fleshed out and engineered based on the needs / demands of the consumers, attempting to avoid baseless assumptions

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it's also a pain in the rear lol

hasty kernel
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I suppose the best way of putting it is that the change in account systems permanently lost thousands of usernames, makes playing with players on other servers considerably harder, and as far as we know, has absolutely no benefit to anyone

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Initially my theory was cost-saving measure, but I dont think the miniscule amount of money youd save would warrant the expensive transition period

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At this my best bet is that it was originally a prank that got really out of hand

wide ember
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or considering the rumoured employee rotation rate, maybe the one who started on it left so they couldn't figure out how to finish the new system yet?

chilly briar
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hah, knowing enterprise architecture, I wouldn't be surprised

hasty kernel
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The problem is that that usually explains a good idea that was completely screwed up

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There wasnt so much as a good idea here

wide ember
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how can we even tell the difference between a very badly and inaccurately implemented idea and a bad idea in itself

chilly briar
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well, depends who you ask about it

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😂

wide ember
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(the result is still the same isn't it)

hasty kernel
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True, though in this case, Id argue its easy to tell because the entire motivation for the change was unwarranted

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I get not wanting to have the name of your main game attached to the accounts for all of your games

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But then just ... rename it?

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There wasnt anything else you needed to change

wide ember
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failure to apply occam's razor?

hasty kernel
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Iunno

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The part that made me question the whole thing even more is that in order to deal with the resulting username conflicts

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They chose the worst strategy

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The one that maximises the number of permanently lost usernames

wide ember
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still, because they are a big company, this is still a loss that they can afford

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not only that, just like emotional abuses can sometimes make a person more attached to the abuser, such setback may make the gamers somehow even more loyal to the brand

hasty kernel
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Ehhh

wide ember
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like a mixture of stockholm and sink-cost fallacy

hasty kernel
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The ones that didnt just resigned to it, either quit

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Or possibly found the same workaround I did

wide ember
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or use this to start over

hasty kernel
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Yeah league is uh

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Not a game you wanna start over with

wide ember
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but your workaround is probably already an open secret by now

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so most of them probably just used that

hasty kernel
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Possible

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But I dont know

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Ive not seen anyone talk about it

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Im just annoyed because I actually have 3 accounts

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And Im locked into one

wide ember
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I would honestly be happy if riot learns properly from this this time, but I'm sure that most players just tried to find workarounds

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and riot learns nothing

hasty kernel
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I mean they do learn some things

wide ember
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I'm this cynical because when devcat designed mabinogi, it was made to be balanced, but nexon made it all about microtransaction, and still only profited from it, did not lose significant playerbase at all

hasty kernel
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Sometimes

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For example, their card game art has a bunch of female knights

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And they have actual, proper armour

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I know it should be an absolute baseline

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But its a chestplate that makes sense

wide ember
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that's good to know at least

fervent zenith
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God, People waited years for a remake of their beloved FF7 just to be turned into ||Kingdom Hearts|| lmao

wide ember
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I waited all those years for FF7 to be less yikes about crossdressing

fervent zenith
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Was Andrea non-binary?

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I may be daft but everything seemed to indicate they were

hasty kernel
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Wait, whats the ||Kingdom Hearts|| thing in reference to

fervent zenith
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The remake is madness

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Let me put some non-spoilered reviews

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IGN: The way FF7R wantonly spouts nonsense that it just expects you to roll with toward the end of its story can only be properly described as “Some Kingdom Hearts BS” – and I say that as a fan of Kingdom Hearts. On top of that, its insane climax left me with a bad taste in my mouth no matter where the story decides to go from here.

Kotaku: Days after finishing the game, I’m still trying to grapple with the consequences of Final Fantasy VII Remake’s ending, which will be heatedly debated in the weeks and months to come. It’s still not clear just what the developers at Square Enix plan to do next, but the ending makes it very clear that the project’s director, Tetsuya Nomura, has spent the past two decades as the chief creative behind Kingdom Hearts, the messiest and most complicated story in JRPG history.

Dualshockers:And here is where it all started to come apart for me. For a brief while, I was ripped out of Final Fantasy 7 and dumped heavily into an unholy marriage of Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts. It was awkward, it was confusing, and it left me shaking my head in dismay. It felt massively out of place. Did this part have to change so dramatically? Maybe. It wasn’t a true climax or game-ending point in the original, after all, and I expected some new conclusion and an added boss or two to cap off this experience. Yet, until now, it had been such a solid remake that made measured changes to supplement the classic story. Here, at the eleventh hour, it jarringly erupted into a massive spectacle that honestly felt like underdeveloped fanfiction.

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Turns out it isn't a remake but ||a sequel in an alternate timeline and both timelines intermingle|| This has made a lot of people angry and is widely considered to be a bad move

wide ember
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||so she might not have to die this time?||

hasty kernel
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I hate that I have like no impulse control when it comes to spoilers

fervent zenith
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@wide ember The biggest change in the Remake is that ||a few characters who should have died don't||

hasty kernel
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Yknow what

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Im gonna try and not click that

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I wanna have some twist left

wide ember
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||and do characters who shouldn't have died die, so we have to merge the two timelines to make a full team?||

fervent zenith
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Aerith ||death is farther that the remake portrays so she may or might not died||

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We have to wait to ffvii-2

wide ember
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if they have to go full fanfiction I want my domesticity and sickfic

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ok technically sickfic was already there

fervent zenith
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It's actually hilarious excepting the dementors the plot was thankfully a carbon copy of the original

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Then the last hour they throw the whammy

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Still enjoyable tho

wide ember
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ok but can my Cloud kiss memory!Zack or real!Valentine as well as Tifa and Aerith

fervent zenith
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Valentine is much farther in the game

hasty kernel
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He is probably in the third ... third

fervent zenith
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I don't think they even mention him

hasty kernel
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Yeah

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He isnt even really foreshadowed

wide ember
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yeah and my sickfic is around there too

hasty kernel
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Hell, he doesnt have much plot relevance

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Except for the part where he does

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But that is a mess

wide ember
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well, Valentine is the object of the Hojo and Lucretia plot kind of

fervent zenith
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Also God Aerith VA was kinda horrid at times

wide ember
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and the mother's inability to die after dying was hinting at sephiroth's return somewhat?

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...I won't have to turn off the VA I hope

fervent zenith
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Think so

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What actually warn my heart is that of all people ||Biggs survives||

hasty kernel
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Wait how have you played the game already

wide ember
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||hey they can still die in part 2 or 3 let's not count the chicks before they hatch||

fervent zenith
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Got a friend on Australia that streamed it for our group

wide ember
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nice

fervent zenith
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I didn't play it I don't have a ps4 but we binged it together

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Although I didn't watch the reactor 5 part with them

wide ember
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oh hey I was messaging my friend in australia to convince her to stream her copy of ff7 remake but she was just opening the game as I messaged her

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good timing

fervent zenith
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Lol

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Yeah I was basically only for the story

wide ember
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she was the one who got me into final fantasy series in the first place, it's really not my normal cup of tea

fervent zenith
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In the parts where was only heavy combat I left the stream in the background

hasty kernel
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Wait, do they have it out earlier in Australia?

fervent zenith
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Like God he struggled with certain bosses we had to convince him to grind

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Yes

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Nine whole days

hasty kernel
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Bastards

fervent zenith
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Once he heard about it he went full road runner into the local game shop

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Now to wait for the re3 sale

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Also, I think the cross-dressing was done tastefully but honestly I know nothing, so.......

north hamlet
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Release was staggered for coronavirus i think?

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And australia is like a tiny usa so it often gets games early like a trial run

wide ember
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release was delayed for taiwan, china, hong kong and some other countries, while other countries got an earlier release

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I just had to watch taiwanese people complain about it yesterday

fervent zenith
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Well, here you can only buy it online

wide ember
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and apparently it's shipping delay, not planned delay- yeah

fervent zenith
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No game shop left open on the country

wide ember
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we still have amazon in canada in case of physical release

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but right now it's "Currently unavailable."

hasty kernel
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I thought about getting a physical copy

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But given the times, Ill get a digital one

wide ember
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the internet is so bad here that I can barely watch a facebook video without lags, so I'll get a physical copy

fervent zenith
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Inb4 day one patch

hasty kernel
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Internet aint great, exactly

wide ember
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thankfully messaging is still so-so and I have offline games- oh no