off-topic-discussion

[hasty kernel]

It was pretty good, but the reveal was rather disappointing

[tranquil cloud]

I like my hero academia but there are some things that I like it in spite of rather than because of

[toxic steppe]

I love MHA

I have some figures.

All Might, obviously.

[wide ember]

is ID:Invaded at least as heartwarming as AI:SF or not as much?

[toxic steppe]

And S4 MVP

UNBREAKABLE

RED

RIOT

[wide ember]

like, how many father-daughter moments or similar do I get

[hasty kernel]

Uh

Let me check if what Im about to say is spoilers or not

[tardy ore]

Zuko to his uncle: Imagine you're stuck on a boat in the middle of the ocean and the engine's broken, and it's the Day of Black Sun. What do you do?
His uncle: Iroh

[hasty kernel]

Oh ok its part of the synposis of it

The main character does have a daughter, or rather did

[tardy ore]

This is just a pun with no real context or accurate characterization.

[hasty kernel]

She was murdered by a serial killer 2 years before the start of the show

So uh

[tranquil cloud]

I have todoroki and midoriya funkos

[hasty kernel]

Not exactly heartwarming?

[wide ember]

but does he get another daughter figure like in The Last of Us?

[hasty kernel]

Hmmm

Not really?

[wide ember]

aw

[tardy ore]

I like how Dad is becoming a subgenre

I don't like how not enough of those have dad jokes

I guess Hades isn't the jokey type.

Nor Kratos.

But imagine if they were.

[hasty kernel]

There is a character who he does bond with, but theyre more partners than father-daughter figures

[tardy ore]

Imagine Hades greeting a defeated Zag with "Seems you're still a little wet behind the ears" as he comes out of the blood pool.

[mild pelican]

"Oh, hi, Imnotstayin, Im Dad"

[hasty kernel]

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hondomachi.png

This is the character in question

[tranquil cloud]

Since MHA came up... https://damaless.tumblr.com/post/612187293149790208/i-made-another-thing-like-my-miraculous-ladybug

[hasty kernel]

Its honestly surprising they didnt go for that dynamic given how small she is (even though she is actually 23)

But I kinda preferred it that way

[tardy ore]

Oh hey

I haven't seen the word hexaflexagon in years. @tranquil cloud

I haven't even properly watched that channel, but I love the word.

[tranquil cloud]

I love hexaflexagons

[tardy ore]

It's so nice.

[mild pelican]

i haven't seen the word flexagon since 90s

[tranquil cloud]

I love hexaflexahedrons even better

[hasty kernel]

But yeah, Id:Invaded is less heartwarming and more brutally depressing

[tranquil cloud]

Tetrahexaflexahedrons

[tardy ore]

Does this make it a flex post?

[toxic steppe]

Hexaflexagon is so fun to say

[tardy ore]

[tranquil cloud]

“Weird flex but ok” lol

[tardy ore]

I was about to follow up

[toxic steppe]

Speaking of Hexagons tho

Anybody ever play Super Hexagon

That's a fun game

[tardy ore]

I keep reading Academia as Macadamia, on that note

[toxic steppe]

My Hero, Macadamia Nut Cookies.

[tardy ore]

I tried it.

[mild pelican]

wait there is a game? o_O i thought it was a music album

[tardy ore]

My slow reflexes make Super Hexagon nearly unplayable.

[toxic steppe]

Haha

[mild pelican]

just kidding

[wide ember]

speaking of flexagon and game, do people remember what was the rituals for summoning spirits with them or something?

[tardy ore]

I don't like those kinds of games much myself

[toxic steppe]

I got pretty good at it

[tardy ore]

Just abstract pure mechanics...

Not my thing. I'm no good at them.

[wide ember]

sometimes the inside of flexagons are written to be used as an 8ball, but I remember some girls taking it a step further

[mild pelican]

mobile gaming usually all about this

to kill some time

[tranquil cloud]

Ah those weren’t flexagons though, were they?

[wide ember]

maybe I'm mistaken

[tranquil cloud]

“Cootie catchers” (ugh I hate that name)

[tardy ore]

Those were the fortune telling things, right

[tranquil cloud]

They were much simpler

[tardy ore]

Whatever the heck they're really called

[tranquil cloud]

Yeah

You write like 5 kids in your class and it predicts who you’ll marry blah blah

Stupid but it was the thing to do at the time

And then there’s me working out the math so I can get it to always land on my crush... lol

[wide ember]

I've only saw them from afar so I don't know much, but beside the who you'll marry type there was a game to grant wishes and place hexes?

[tardy ore]

Pff, nice

[mild pelican]

now i think of it.. and also about d20s

[tardy ore]

I am... worse at math than I should be.

Bad fundamentals, awful learning environment

[wide ember]

oh, paku-paku was the term they used, I got it mixed up with flexagon

[tranquil cloud]

Was it you I had that whole conversation about dodge chance with?

[tardy ore]

And I just don't have the motivation to start from the beginning now.

Uh... heck, I don't think so?

[tranquil cloud]

It was yesterday so probably not haha

[tardy ore]

Oh. No.

[wide ember]

d20s?

[toxic steppe]

Paku-paku means to flap one's mouth

[tranquil cloud]

It was in #h1-discussion I think

[toxic steppe]

That's how Pacman got his name

[tardy ore]

Wait

Holy crap, really

TIL

[tranquil cloud]

A very... maybe embarrassingly in-depth breakdown of how dodge chance works

[toxic steppe]

His og name was going to be Puckman

But they changed it because it could be

Changed

[tardy ore]

Oh. I wish I had read it. I want to know how the dodge shenanigans work.

[toxic steppe]

To y'know

[mild pelican]

i just think, what if inside of them can be written some game events for tabletop something

[tardy ore]

...so it's a pun?

[wide ember]

paku-paku, chatterbox

[toxic steppe]

Shout out to Scott Pilgrim for that factoid

[tardy ore]

I like Pac-Man more now that I know his name is a pun

[tranquil cloud]

I can write it out in my notebook and share it with you

[toxic steppe]

https://youtu.be/YNmFocIWzz8

Enjoy

[tardy ore]

Oh, I think this got buried, but...

Again, curious. Anyone else who likes non human focused stories?

[tranquil cloud]

I have a hexaflexahedron how-to post somewhere

In case anyone wants to make one

I might make a Hades one

[tardy ore]

Especially non-anthropomorphic

[tranquil cloud]

Like aliens?

Or AI?

[toxic steppe]

Like the Warriors series

[tranquil cloud]

I like some of the more ship-centric stories in the Culture series

[mild pelican]

well.. like characters, that are not humans?

[tranquil cloud]

Ship as in spaceship

[toxic steppe]

Redwall

[tranquil cloud]

Not ship like relationship lol

[mild pelican]

or like, stories of a country or whatever

[tardy ore]

Characters that are not humans and ideally don't act like them

[tranquil cloud]

Oh I remember redwall

[wide ember]

Scott Pilgrim was such a great series

[tranquil cloud]

I loved it as a kid

[toxic steppe]

Redwall is amazing

[tardy ore]

@toxic steppe I like those, but they're not quite the same thing, because they're highly anthropomorphic

[toxic steppe]

YOU'RE HIGHLY ANTHROPOMORPHIC

[tranquil cloud]

There’s also Silverwing

[wide ember]

I liked Redwell until the sparrow died, then I refused to watch it again

[tranquil cloud]

And other books in that series I think

It’s a bat perspective

[toxic steppe]

There's a ton of books

[wide ember]

especially since she got wounded off-screen

[tranquil cloud]

And and and

children of time

[mild pelican]

well, there is a difference.. when if they don't look like humans, or don't act like humans

[tranquil cloud]

It has people but half the time it’s about spiders

[mild pelican]

both is good for me

[toxic steppe]

Animorphs

[wide ember]

Sunwing

[tardy ore]

@tranquil cloud oooo I loved the silverwing books

[toxic steppe]

Those books get dark

[tardy ore]

I should fully read Animorphs

[tranquil cloud]

Children of Time is based on the premise of elevating spiders to sentience and then examining what sort of civilization spiders would form

Told over generations

It’s FANTASTIC

[wide ember]

interesting

[toxic steppe]

I like generational stories, or ones that take place during a character's full life span.

[tardy ore]

And with special emphasis on the Ellimist and Hork-Bajir spinoffs...

...

I need to read Children of Time then

[serene tulip]

Children of Time is pretty great

[toxic steppe]

Yeah that sounds awesome

[serene tulip]

the sequel is good

[tranquil cloud]

The sequel is good too

[serene tulip]

not as good tho

[tranquil cloud]

Yeah but it’s still good

[tardy ore]

I also need to read Diane Duane's feline wizard spinoff trilogy.

[toxic steppe]

The last thing I read was the latest King novel

The Institute

[tranquil cloud]

I liked the exploration of the completely different sort of intelligence of the octopuses and the... other thing

[serene tulip]

Now is the time where I'm obliged to shill for the following books: The Expanse Series, The Imperial Radch trilogy, Memories of Empire and the Broken Earth Trilogy

[tranquil cloud]

Broken Earth yes

But some... very triggering stuff right at the beginning and also later in the third book

[serene tulip]

Oh yeah

[tardy ore]

My undergraduate thesis for creative writing was an attempt to write myths and legends from the perspective of sapient cats.

[serene tulip]

Not a happy book

[tardy ore]

@tranquil cloud spoiler tag what they are?

[toxic steppe]

I want to read the Three Body Problem

[serene tulip]

Three body problem is OK but I couldn't make it through the dark forest

[tranquil cloud]

||the very first thing that happens that causes the entire story to begin is the main character’s young child is killed by her husband||

[toxic steppe]

That's a specific trigger lol

[tranquil cloud]

||child death|| is a really common trigger

[mild pelican]

@tardy ore and i immediately thought about khajiits and their interpretation of existing mythology

[tardy ore]

I also want to read Three Body Problem

Oh. When I was doing my writing workshops...

[tranquil cloud]

But I’m glad I pushed past it because I did like the series

[serene tulip]

I keep on trying to get this friend of mine to do a sci-fi book review podcast

[tardy ore]

People kept complaining that the cats weren't following human moral standards.

My response? Double down.

[serene tulip]

sci-fi/fantasy I guess

[toxic steppe]

I was focused on the domestic aspect and not the dying part

[tranquil cloud]

Also the Culture novels, if you like that style of sci-fi

[tardy ore]

"They're still too anthropomorphic. Time to reduce it."

[toxic steppe]

That makes more sense

Lol

[serene tulip]

I didn't really get into the first culture book

[tranquil cloud]

A lot of people have that problem but like the others

Maybe see if you can borrow a library ebook

[toxic steppe]

Yo I'll do a book review podcast with you

[tardy ore]

Ooo, Children of Time is the same author as Shadows of the Apt

I read a couple of those, dropped off but it was cool

[serene tulip]

Also, I've said this already in this channel, but don't read Cast Under an Alien Sun by Olan Thorensen

[toxic steppe]

I've always wanted to do a pocast.

I can orate well enough and like having conversations.

[serene tulip]

Cool!

[toxic steppe]

Plus I have a studio quality microphone

[tardy ore]

@serene tulip Memories of Empire? What author is that

[serene tulip]

Arkady Martine

Its one of my more favorite books from the past coupla years

[tardy ore]

Ah. A Memory Called Empire

Was slightly off title

[serene tulip]

Oh, um, Empire of Silence and the Howling Dark by Christopher Ruoccio is pretty good too

[tardy ore]

On another note, not xenofiction-y, but has anyone ever read the Vorkosigan books

Those were great and I wonder if she ever released a new one recently.

Empire of Silence by?

Same author?

[serene tulip]

Christopher Ruoccio

?

sp?

That one isn't great

[tardy ore]

Oh same

[serene tulip]

but its good

[tardy ore]

Ruocchio

[serene tulip]

Its like, if you mixed Dune and the Kingkiller Chronicle

and its not subtle about that

[tardy ore]

Totally different genre but: I quite liked the Temeraire books.

Just apropos of very little

[tranquil cloud]

The kingkiller chronicle is so strange to me

[tardy ore]

Didn't finish it, though. I think.

Oh yeah

Kingkiller Chronicle is... odd?

[tranquil cloud]

Because if someone asks me what’s good about it, I honestly can’t answer

[serene tulip]

lol

[tranquil cloud]

But I stayed up until 5am finishing it

[serene tulip]

Will and Simmon

[tranquil cloud]

The first book anyway

[tardy ore]

It's kind of a "yesn't" book.

I never read the second

[serene tulip]

The first book I always skip Treben

the second book I skip felurian and sometimes ademre

[tardy ore]

I'm still disappointed Kvothe hasn't been officially used in raven jokes.

Unreasonably so because it's not a comedy, but man, a stack of cats can dream

[toxic steppe]

I'm about to start this book called The Name of the Wind and another that's part of a series apparently called The Iron Druid Chronicles

[tardy ore]

How disappointed? Nevermore so

[serene tulip]

The name of the Wind is kingkiller chronicle

[tardy ore]

Yup

[serene tulip]

we were just talkin' about it 😄

[tardy ore]

Fricking confusing names

[serene tulip]

Yeah

No one knows the Imperial Radch series

but I say, "Ancilliary Justice" and folks are like, "OOOOH"

[tardy ore]

Hah

[toxic steppe]

Oh hey

Word

Lol

[tardy ore]

I always thought the whole "female pronoun default" thing waa a little odd, because if you're going without binary gender, why not use neutral?

But I haven't had the chance to even pick up the book, so I can't read it to see whether that makes more sense in context.

So it's just on my hundreds of books long to-read.

Damnit.

[serene tulip]

Its one of my favorites, if only for its ability to annoy reactionaries

[tardy ore]

Eh, I don't think that's a particularly interesting factor. I don't read for the people.

It just screws with my "mostly default to neutral" brain

[serene tulip]

I mean, I feel like the "She" aspect has a lot to do with the male as default thing

[tardy ore]

Which doesn't make any sense to me to begin with, but inverting it makes the same amount of sense to my brain, just backward.

My mind is internally just "aaaa just use they stop confusing me"

[tranquil cloud]

Oh I love ancillary justice and the rest

[serene tulip]

I just think that she was concerned that an all neutral book would just make folks think everyone was dudes

from your average reader

but hey, again, I'm just in it for the pissed off reactionaries(and Justice of Toren One Esk Nineteen)

[tardy ore]

In my experience the average reader just blithely plows through insisting that a "they" should be a "he or she".

[mild pelican]

to think of it, every option is confusing

like, they as if there are many people at once

[tardy ore]

And otherwise just assumes that the gender of a character is whatever is printed.

[mild pelican]

or royal "they"

[tardy ore]

Makes more sense to me than binary gender so /shrug

Oh right.

[hushed zenith]

Which does stink. Happened to udnertale and it still makes me wanna throttle people who go "the gender of the main character is up to interpretation!!!" but no

[tardy ore]

I intentionally used neutral in my cat stories

And got a bunch of people calling it a typo

Lmao

[hushed zenith]

takes too much effort to imagine a non-binary character for some people iin a game about magic, monsters, and souls

[toxic steppe]

This is unrelated af

https://youtu.be/ckScH-rNtwo

But holy this editing is amazing

[serene tulip]

There's only one part in undertale where frisk is referred to by pronoun, right?

Like, right at the very end

[tardy ore]

@hushed zenith well, it is kind of, because the bait and switch involves encouraging the player to put their name in, right

[mild pelican]

well, if you're making a story from the perspective of a person without specified gender, and don't happen to see other people talking about the character in 3rd person

then there is no such problem

[serene tulip]

Oh my god

I love the hobbit lightsabers

[tardy ore]

So the idea was to some extent to play with the trope of a blank slate character in games, to serve as a vehicle for "you".

[serene tulip]

little short lightsabers

[toxic steppe]

They did a super good job lol

Even mixed the LOTR and SW soundtracks

Seamlessly lol

[tardy ore]

That light-arrow lmao

This is some ridiculously good editing.

[toxic steppe]

He turned the rocks they throw at the troll into grenades

[mild pelican]

really, the amount of super cool things and talented people internet brought to us

[toxic steppe]

That's amazing

[mild pelican]

is just wow

[toxic steppe]

Thermal detonators even

I want to see Helm's Deep wth sabers now

[serene tulip]

that would require so much editing

[toxic steppe]

That would be a huge workload though

Haha

The Mines of Moria scene is probably more impressive though

Even Gimli's axes

[serene tulip]

Honestly, my biggest issue with The Imperial Radch series is that the narrator insisted on pronouncing literally every syllable in every name

[hushed zenith]

@tardy ore Yeah, but there's other characters with They pronouns that get misgendered all the time and it irks me just the same

sorry mid pull, delayed responses

[serene tulip]

Anaander Mianaai took like 3 minutes to say

[tardy ore]

Pull?

[tranquil cloud]

Outer Wilds has an entire species of gender-neutral characters who all use they/them pronouns

[tardy ore]

What kind of pull

Also, I don't do audiobooks.

Mild auditory processing shenanigans.

[serene tulip]

I only do audiobooks :<

[tardy ore]

I tried as a kid

[hushed zenith]

XIV stuff, just a weekly reclear deal. Anyways, yyeah, it's annoying as heck

[tardy ore]

Ended up rewinding the tapes like five times every few pages

[toxic steppe]

I do audiobooks when on walks

But I'm a faster reader than I am a listener

[tardy ore]

Still, isn't the canonical status of those characters that they're gender neutral, despite using female pronouns?

[hushed zenith]

Encounter? fight? whatever. But I've seen a lot of people do that with any explictly non-binary characters and it makes me like.. disconnect from fandoms after a while. so shoutouts to Chaos being super cool in Hades

SU? Yeah.

[tardy ore]

Oh? I meant Imperial Radch

That was what I heard

[toxic steppe]

LOL

[hushed zenith]

...dfhdh i got like three different convos going sorry

[tardy ore]

I just think using binary terms kind of takes away the effect

Or lessens it

[toxic steppe]

Do you or do you not like SU tho

[hushed zenith]

Yeah, though it does definitely represent a subset of the community, we're really not at the stage where that's like... recognisable to most audiences.

[tranquil cloud]

@tardy ore some of the characters have gender but the narrator doesn’t recognize it

[tardy ore]

Who? What? Who mentioned SU first?

I haven't really watched that

[hushed zenith]

i did that was my bad due to gettign conversations crossed

[toxic steppe]

I enjoy SU but I was a late entry

[tardy ore]

I don't judge by fandoms because I rarely engage in fandoms.

[tranquil cloud]

I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch SU Future yet

[tardy ore]

Again: I live under several rocks.

[toxic steppe]

I skipped S1, watched all the stuff up to before the movie, then went back.

[tranquil cloud]

The stuff I’ve seen on tumblr about it... is pretty dark

[toxic steppe]

Haven't seen Future or the film

But I love time skips lol

[tardy ore]

Especially after I quit Tumblr years ago

Too angry about everything

[mild pelican]

sometimes a fandom can look not like what you expect watching/reading the story

or it can

depends

[odd grove]

Man devil summoner is a good game

[toxic steppe]

I haven't used tumblr since like 2010

[serene tulip]

TIL that one of the aliens in The Imperial Radch speries is spelled Presger instead of Preska

[odd grove]

I haven't used tumblr since they banned tits

[toxic steppe]

Incredibly honest.

[mild pelican]

never seen what's the point of tumblr beside askblogs and that ^

[wide ember]

tumblr was great for marketing of zines and arts at some point

[odd grove]

Ok but seriously

[wide ember]

emphasis on at some point

[odd grove]

Y'all HAVE to play Devil Summoner

[serene tulip]

too busy keeping some graveyards

in graveyard keeper

[tardy ore]

Hikikomori life too stronk

[wide ember]

it's the lockdown, it's more mood appropriate to play Devil Survivor

[tardy ore]

Hey

[odd grove]

Seriously

[tardy ore]

Graveyard Keeper is just being forward thinking.

[odd grove]

Devil Summoner has RASPUTIN

[toxic steppe]

I'm playing Animal Crossing

[serene tulip]

😄

I wanted to play animal crossing

but I don't have a switch

[tardy ore]

@odd grove Lover of the Russian queen, he was a cat that really was gone?

[odd grove]

I have a switch

[toxic steppe]

):

[serene tulip]

and didn't feel like playing stardew for the 300th time

so I fired up graveyard keeper

[odd grove]

@tardy ore Yes, the game literally has Rasputin, exactly the one from the song and the storybooks

[toxic steppe]

I've been playing Hades and started Pyre too

[tardy ore]

I'm playing Arknights lately. The only gacha game to ever hold my interest longer than a week.

[odd grove]

I tried Pyre cuz i got it for free

[tardy ore]

Because I love tower defense.

[mild pelican]

same.. don't have a switch, and now with all that stuff with oil costs don't think I can get one anytime soon

[odd grove]

Tower defense gacha?

How?

[toxic steppe]

Pyre hooked me immediately

[tardy ore]

Also I know, was just making a joke. And trying to get everyone to have the song stuck in their head.

[odd grove]

It's an odd... Sports game rpg?

[tardy ore]

@odd grove Units are from gacha pulls. F2p friendly though

[odd grove]

Okay, i'll give it a shot

I hope i get cute girls AND boys from pulls, tho!

[tardy ore]

The characters act like towers, it's a mazing type TD instead of the "place to the sides"

[mild pelican]

there have been too much arknights in news lately

[tardy ore]

Few boys but one is coming in the free event this week

[odd grove]

Interesting

[tardy ore]

And he has some blazing hot leather pants, so may as well start now

[mild pelican]

maybe it's really as good as people say

[odd grove]

I wanna see

[toxic steppe]

Boys are gross

[tardy ore]

:p

[odd grove]

Wrong

You are objectively wrong

[toxic steppe]

Hahaha

[mild pelican]

they are 2d, so it's ok

i guess

[tardy ore]

It's good

It requires more thinking than whaling

Can clear a lot with the lowest end characters. Only real issue is, the grind to promote is hell and stamina runs out fast.

Perfect for a side thing you play and go do other stuff after though

[mild pelican]

well, im ok with waiting.. not ok with throwing fortunes in the mobile app

so guess may give it a shot

[tardy ore]

By the way @tranquil cloud if the offer to write down (or alternatively discord quoteblock) dodge formula is still on the table, I would like that

Yeah, it doesn't require spending. I only have a monthly card, but even that isn't really necessary

[mild pelican]

my another friend recently bought another lifetime insurance in Star citizen for 35$.. he follows every update.. and already spent money he can live with for a year

i'm not judging

[tardy ore]

I saw someone whale rage $200 for a single operator the other week.

The same one I got just pulling normally...

[mild pelican]

but cant understand either

[tardy ore]

A tragedy

Well, not much. That guy is kind of an ass.

[mild pelican]

that's like how much i get every month

for living

guess that's how it works

[hasty kernel]

Arknights was reasonable

It didnt keep me interested, the gameplay was kinda eh

But I like the designs

[tardy ore]

It depends on whether you like the gameplay, yeah

I personally love it for the gameplay

[hasty kernel]

It actually doesnt go for fanservice nearly s much as most Gachas do

[tardy ore]

And for that.

[mild pelican]

well, it may be good to play to understand the memes

there are a lot

[tardy ore]

But also, hot damn the sound design

Whoever their sound team is, they have AAA game quality work

Also the memes are pretty good indeed.

[toxic steppe]

I was into AFK Heroes for a while

AFK Arena I mean

[hasty kernel]

It was just nice to see a Gacha where the female characters have actually reasonable designs

[toxic steppe]

Smh

[tardy ore]

Got tired of clicker games... Realm Grinder held my interest longest

After the venerable Cookie Clicker, of course.

[toxic steppe]

I like the tig bitty horn girl

[tardy ore]

Flat is justice :v

[hasty kernel]

For example, the quintessential assassin character

https://gamepress.gg/arknights/sites/arknights/files/2019-10/char_144_red_1.png

[toxic steppe]

Flat IS justice

Unless you have horns

[hasty kernel]

None of that scantily clad nonsense

No high heels

[tardy ore]

Also, ah yes, Projekt Red. Translation team had a ball with this game.

The heels are only in optional costumes, and fairly rare

[hasty kernel]

Proper jacket, proper pants, and proper gear

[toxic steppe]

As in, CD Projekt Red?

[tardy ore]

Yeah, that's the joke. She's just Red in Chinese

[toxic steppe]

CYBERPUNK HYPE

[tardy ore]

But the localization had some Fun, because honestly, she's basically half a witcher already.

Now I'm waiting for a cyberpunk skin.

[toxic steppe]

Did you see they reacquired the IP and are planning another Witcher game after CP2077

[tardy ore]

Yes

[toxic steppe]

Hype

[tardy ore]

Ciri please

Just give me a Ciri game with world hopping shenanigans.

[hasty kernel]

But yeah, Arknights mostly avoids incessant fanservice

So that was nice

[tardy ore]

Aye

The lore is cool too!

It's...

Well

[hasty kernel]

It also has a pretty Tomboy but thats neither here nor there

[toxic steppe]

Apparently there was going to be a Ciri appearance in Cyberpunk but the author said no

[tardy ore]

I would describe it as reminiscent of the Hungry City/Mortal Engines series.

[toxic steppe]

Then the Netflix show happened and he changed his tune lol

[tardy ore]

Crossed with just a bit of Stormlight Archive-ish

And set in a vaguely apocalyptic future

@toxic steppe so are we getting her in the game then?

[toxic steppe]

Probably not so directly but I'm sure there will be some reference

[tardy ore]

I predict I will neither be able to afford or run the game properly at launch.

[toxic steppe]

She describes Night City to Geralt in TW3

[tardy ore]

Hah, nice.

[mild pelican]

If there ever will be mod support for Cyberpunk

[toxic steppe]

One of the places she hopped to

[tardy ore]

For real though, a new Witcher series but it's Ciri traveling around...

I would like that

[mild pelican]

guess Ciri will come asap

[toxic steppe]

https://youtu.be/wQ6A3GvEVo0

Such a good game

[tardy ore]

I never got far...

[mild pelican]

some kind of Dr.Who or Star trek style?

[tardy ore]

Always got kinda intimidated by my own aggressive completionism

[toxic steppe]

I've finished it and the DLC

[mild pelican]

god it's been 5 years already

[tardy ore]

I need to start while this damn lockdown is a thing.

But I always either forget to play these big open worlds, or fall down the absolutely ludicrous rabbit hole that is "I need to have every single scrap of junk in this world"

[mild pelican]

same

[tardy ore]

This is why I stopped following the yearly AssCreeds

[mild pelican]

that's why i play khajiits.. because of their nature to take everything lying unproperly

[toxic steppe]

Well TW3 has almost too much of that

I'd never be able to 100% it

[mild pelican]

these found 100 feathers sidequest.. goodness

[toxic steppe]

Even just focusing story and doing a good amount of side stuff was like 120h of content

[tardy ore]

Hhhhngh

That's exactly why I didn't get far

I am compelled to follow the Completionist Guides and everything

[toxic steppe]

Rip

I save that for my second playthrough

I always rush story

[tardy ore]

that's why i play khajiits.. because of their nature to take everything lying unproperly
@mild pelican hey, stop impersonating me :p

Oh. I do the dumbest route

100% while doing story

And end up with zero postgame

"Oh."

"You unlocked the postgame content! It's like... this last three places on the map, because you already hoarded every last one of those stupid trinkets lying around, you maniac"

[mild pelican]

well, some games never had any postgame content.. so we are cautious now

[tardy ore]

Bright side? I get to run around finishing the story decked out in the most ludicrously excessive crap I can find.

Hey, some games are still getting the base game added into a future update.

[mild pelican]

"what if i wouldn't be able to go inside that cave anymore?"

[tardy ore]

Fallout 76

[mild pelican]

i've spent in Skyrim, like.. dunno how many hours

[tardy ore]

Fun fact

[mild pelican]

let's say, best years of life

[tardy ore]

I have 100%'d Morrowind, but never on the same file.

<:

Well almost.

[mild pelican]

4 months picking mods.. only picking

[tardy ore]

Except the damn ending of Tribunal.

My save always broke before the end.

So like 95% of the game not counting the "exclusive paths". Telvanni forever.

[mild pelican]

yeah

[tardy ore]

But across maybe 12-20 saves I managed to complete everything else <:

[mild pelican]

well.. was about to say, that i never defeated Alduin..

[tardy ore]

I tried with Skyrim

Then my mages guild quest broke.

I'm a mage main.

Level scaling is big dumb though

[mild pelican]

someone said.. you can play whoever you like, eventually you'll become a bow stealth sniper

[tardy ore]

I miss Morrowind loot

Pfft. No.

Invisibility daggers

Yes, including dragons

I always felt bows didn't do enough overkill.

So stabbing a dragon in the tail and watching it explode...

👌

[mild pelican]

kek

[tardy ore]

Also, the "mods/console only" route?

[mild pelican]

Torgue approves

[tardy ore]

Stealth Dragon Shout

You see

If you get -100% shout cooldown...

And pickpocket every equipped piece on an enemy...

You have enough time to do Slow Time+double Unrelenting Force, kick enemies off walls, and recast invisibility.

Can't detect you if they're at the bottom of a cliff.
https://media.tenor.com/images/3374ffd75eabdaaafdc4ff636050b098/tenor.gif

[mild pelican]

"must've been rats"

[tardy ore]

I did it in the greybeard robe. Abused a bug to make my head invisible

And to get glowing draugr eyes

I became the screaming phantom of Skyrim

Flying horse console trick too

"Have you heard? There's this ghost thing that shows up, steals people's things, and screams at them until they fall to their deaths."
"Nah, that's ridiculous. There's no such thing."

[mild pelican]

i tried onepunch build.. when you make an enchanted gauntlet through leveling up enchantment with potions and other enchanted items.. up to god knows how high levels

[tardy ore]

Lmao, the cheese

I broke so many morrowind saves with permanent chameleon.

[mild pelican]

it's fun to kill dragons with one swing, but takes too much preparation

[tardy ore]

Turns out, if the quest NPC needs to talk to you first, it breaks the story

Permanent spell resistance... oops

[odd grove]

So

What do ya think of games that give you cheats and then say "You are a cheater" and do really scummy stuff because you sued the cheats given to you?

[faint panther]

I can't say I've ever played anything like that.

[tardy ore]

I think it's a dumb move.

The only time cheats are harmful is when they affect other players negatively.

[odd grove]

No like

@tardy ore Singleplayer games with cheats

You put on a cheat and then you just... get a trashed on for using the cheats the game devs added?

[tardy ore]

Yeah, I know. I'm saying it's usually dumb of them to do that.

Like putting in easy mode and then insulting people for using it

Unless it's actually funny. Psychonauts did the cheat thing, but it's just kind of a joke, old man Ford just yells "You cheated!" and nothing else happens

[odd grove]

Yeah that's actually cool

Like in this one game you can save and reload to win at a gambling game to get cash

But if you do that too many times the guy you gamble with just... Explodes

Keeping you from further gambles

Then there's Banjo Kazooie which straight up deletes your save file for using cheats

[mild pelican]

that sounds like.. one of the endings for Nier Automata

[odd grove]

How so?

[mild pelican]

like, you activated a cheatcode.. and then something bad happens.. and then credits

there are a lot of similar stuff there

[odd grove]

I mean, that's an ending i suppose?

[upbeat scroll]

https://twitter.com/tea_vea/status/1241775968127254528

scrambled eggs gf (@tea_vea)

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kitteys!

[tranquil cloud]

Omg the conversation about riddles reminds me

We have this kids book of jokes

And my 4 year old can’t read but she I guess tried to memorize the book

But she doesn’t actually GET the jokes so the way she remembers the words makes that super clear sometimes lol

[toxic steppe]

x]

[tranquil cloud]

Like there’s a picture of a bull and the joke is like, “what do you call a sleeping bull?”

A bulldozer

Right?

[toxic steppe]

That's a good un

[tranquil cloud]

But she’s like... “what do you call a yak who’s sleeping?” (Why a yak??????)

And then....

“A dump truck!”

[toxic steppe]

Hahahaha

[tranquil cloud]

Like she just remembered it was some construction vehicle omg

[toxic steppe]

Or she's a genius and understands anti-humor.

[tranquil cloud]

And then later there was one, on paper went “what do you call a container full of ducks?”

[toxic steppe]

That's actually a funny joke if it follows the context of the first one

[tranquil cloud]

“A box of quackers” is the actual answer

But her version went like: “what do you call a box that has a bunch of ducks?” .... “a duck box!!!”

[tardy ore]

Master of the unjoke

[velvet fjord]

I've found this ghost in New Horizons twice now

what killed this poor soul and trapped it within the purgatory of checks notes Cooltown Island

[tawny cobalt]

So I get that android wk is both concise and ingenious, but what about changing my username to Fermat's Last Beer Run. Yay or nay.

[tranquil cloud]

Yes

[deft rapids]

@fringe sparrow Yeah, was about to say that maybe we should change channels 😄 I recently cut Battle Chasers from my wishlist tbh

Sucker for card games, less for turn based games

Slay The Spire is stellar, though

Also about SWQ: the story's cute and I love all of the characters, but for me there is close to no replayability. There are some challenges in the end, but they aren't really worth it imo, especially because damage numbers are slightly rng-based

I still recommend it, though

[fringe sparrow]

Well then I must say that while Battle Chasers have some more replayability, you will probably dont like that at the end if you will not grind a bit to level up all champs (which doesnt level up together, so if you dont some one he can left even with 1lv)

then it will be easier to drop the game ...

as its not fun to level up 5lv champ to 30lv

even when you can go to most hard dungeons with another 30lv (you can pick 3 champs at once )

[deft rapids]

Yeah, doesn't sound like a thing I'd be fond of

then again I always have this urge of cycling through all characters to keep them at a somewhat even level

[flat pond]

Darkest dungeon is real fun and challenging

Pluz if you like lovecraftian themes it's a big bonus

[odd grove]

I could honestly never complete DD

[flat pond]

Dd 2 is comming out

Hellblade 2 is comming out this year too prob

[odd grove]

Thing is

[flat pond]

Sinking city is comming out of epic exclusive in June too

[odd grove]

I just don't enjoy the tensions i get from going into darkest dungeons

[flat pond]

That's the fun part tho

[odd grove]

You don't get it

I already tried it three times with 3 different comps

[flat pond]

Are you on the DD discord?

[odd grove]

Yeah

But i have honestly given up

[flat pond]

Ask for help there

[odd grove]

Like 130 weeks without killing the shuffler

Already did

Didn't work

[flat pond]

We are always ready to help

[odd grove]

When i was just about to, dismas simply

end gamed himself...

But seriously tho i ain't completing the game

[flat pond]

Unlucky then

[odd grove]

Yeah, no luck at all

What can i even do to help that some guy just decided to hit himself instead of the boss at 5 hp??????????????????????????

@flat pond

[flat pond]

Keep people healed

And give him acc trinkets

[odd grove]

Who?

Also how am i to heal people when the only good healer gets shuffled?

[flat pond]

On the first DD dungeon?

Bring a dance party

So it doesn't matter if he shuffles

They can move again so it's not that bad

I recomend

The last one can be changed

[odd grove]

I'm a third worlder without access to dlc

[flat pond]

graverobber then

[odd grove]

what sets do i use on the way there

Then, on the actual fight

[flat pond]

ask on the spoiler chanel of the dd discorrd

they will give you a map for it

[sharp grail]

https://register.ubisoft.com/child-of-light/en-US
free game! and a very good one at that

[odd grove]

Uplay

[fringe sparrow]

its also for 4$ from time to time on switch

[odd grove]

Ew

[fringe sparrow]

its 4.99$ now on switch eshop

[deft rapids]

Oh Child of Light is beautiful

The OST is amazing btw

made me fall in love with Coeur de Pirate

[odd grove]

@deft rapids Is it as good as the Devil Summoner soundtrack tho?

[deft rapids]

I have no idea, because I didn't play that game

[tranquil cloud]

What sort of game is Child Of Light?

[fringe sparrow]

its turn based

2d

[odd grove]

@deft rapids !? whoa you gotta play it

I mean it's not a "really good game and absolutely amazing every time"

But rather it's a fun RPG

Solid gameplay, good story

It's an SMT game so that's a certain quality bar

[deft rapids]

well, I have no PS

I mean technically I could use an emulator, but eh

not really a fan of those

[toxic steppe]

The new Doom is so fun!

[sharp grail]

ive heard from a lot of people that played it that they love it, it makes me happy to hear

also i got child of light in a steam sale a loooong time ago right after i played transistor, its the only game i have on uplay and its worth getting for it

its just a really beautiful game

especially for free

[faint panther]

I want to play Doom but the first level was not great and I've been watching some late-game streams and I don't like what I see.

[velvet fjord]

I want Eternal, although I heard it's not quite as good as 2016

but 2016 is really good

[faint panther]

2016 was my favorite game ever until I tried Hollow Knight about 6 months ago.

[cunning radish]

can the devs please put pandora back in the box? would be much appreciated...

[tranquil cloud]

Hollow Knight so good

The music is fantastic too

I have a book of the sheet music

[faint panther]

All these games and shows with the most incredible music. I should get a keyboard.

[tranquil cloud]

It’s helping me stay sane in lockdown

I’ve started working on Show Yourself from Frozen 2

[fervent zenith]

I'm gonna finish Xcom 2 and get on with Battle Chasers: Nightwar

[flat prism]

Quarantine is helping me work through my 80+ game library

[odd grove]

GAMERS

THE STANLEY PARABLE IS FREE ON EPIC STORE

I REPEAT

[flat prism]

Yo net

[odd grove]

THE STANLEY PARABLE IS FREE

[flat prism]

Eh I don't use epic store

I prefer keeping all my games on 1 launcher

[faint panther]

If you haven't played The Stanley Parable you should.

[odd grove]

I used it to get lego batman

[flat prism]

Wait

[odd grove]

Like honestly

[flat prism]

Lego batman was free?

Which one

[odd grove]

All of them

[flat prism]

WHAT

[odd grove]

On the batman day

[flat prism]

MY CHILDHOOD

Lego batman 1

[odd grove]

Also the arkham games

[faint panther]

1. You can run it through Steam if you must. 2) You can run it completely separately from any launcher. I keep Hades on my Taskbar.

I did get the Arkham games, I should play Arkham Knight.

[odd grove]

Same lol

[flat prism]

Wait

[odd grove]

I played arkham city almost entirely

[flat prism]

Have you played the ones before

[faint panther]

Yeah, I've played Asylum and City.

[flat prism]

City and asylum are great

[odd grove]

But idk if replayinh asylum

[faint panther]

Asylum is good, but City is the perfection of its formula.

[flat prism]

Agreed

[odd grove]

I disliked the joker boss on asylum

Clayface tho?

Epic stuff

[flat prism]

Thinking of getting origins but idk if it's worth

[odd grove]

I mean, i don't like the "edgy gritty" batman tho

[flat prism]

Might have that money go to the side for the spiderman sequel should it come out

[odd grove]

I liked it more when it's about a weirdo in a bat suit punching a weirdo in a clown suit

But nontheless, good game

Ironically i disliked the catwoman design in Arkham games lol

[faint panther]

The Mr. Freeze boss fight. 👌

[odd grove]

Imo catwoman just needs the mask to work

[flat prism]

I rly liked Spiderman PS4 tbh and I wish more heroes got the batman Spiderman treatment

[odd grove]

Speaking of old games

Y'all have to play Devil Summoner

[flat prism]

My pfp says it all net

[odd grove]

Good action rpg

[faint panther]

This is me being edgy, but I wanna see someone take that combat system and put it in an unapologetically M-rated game.

[odd grove]

Not the best

But extremely good

[flat prism]

Sly 5

I need that

[odd grove]

I need a third Raidou game

The soundtrack on those games is... Amazing

[flat prism]

Raidou?

[odd grove]

Yeah

[faint panther]

SMT spin-off.

[odd grove]

Raidou Kuzonoha games

vs. The Soulless Army and vs. King Abaddon

[faint panther]

I want a return to form for Paper Mario. Give us a straight turn-based RPG again.

[odd grove]

It has a good mystery plot along interesting combat mechanics with the classic SMT formula

Super Paper Mario was wildly underrated

[faint panther]

I liked it.

[odd grove]

Also i played all of sticker star

[faint panther]

It did well with RPG elements with the mostly classic RPG gameplay.

[odd grove]

It did so much yet still missed the idea of the paper mario games

[flat prism]

I've played nothing Nintendo sadly

[odd grove]

Oof

[flat prism]

Feels like I'm missing out on a lot

[odd grove]

Get an emulator and play mario 64?

[faint panther]

Sad to say they keep their IPs on a very tight leash.

[odd grove]

The camera is a pain at times

But it's enjoyable

[faint panther]

They're getting better about their online stores in recent consoles.

[odd grove]

Nintendo has a separate eshop in argentina

We buy from their website and they grant us keys

[faint panther]

I remember my launch Wii died the day I bought PM64 on the virtual console.

[odd grove]

We pay a considerably lower price for games, but they curate and dictate 100% of the games we can buy

[faint panther]

Getting better, still not great.

[odd grove]

It's awful honestly

[faint panther]

Or even good.

[odd grove]

I can only get Nintendo games or best seller indies

[faint panther]

Honestly, yeah: Get an emulator.

[odd grove]

But not a lot

[faint panther]

maybeshouldn'tbeadvocatingpiracy

[odd grove]

My country was built on piracy

I have literally never seen a real PS2 game in my life

[faint panther]

Okay, I don't know if I want to keep doing this NG+ run of Hyper Light Drifter.

[odd grove]

Most NG+ feel cheap to me

[serene tulip]

The general took me forever

[odd grove]

Like in SMT 3

NG+ gives you a friccin jacket

[serene tulip]

actually, I think bird boy was worse than the general

both are harder than the south bosses, who are harder than judgement who is ABSURDLY harder than frog boy.

because frog boy you can cheese by standing on his back left and he keeps on trying to melee you but can't hit you

[faint panther]

I killed the Hierophant first on my first playthrough.

[serene tulip]

what are you stuck on?

[flat prism]

HLD?

Man I wanna play that

[faint panther]

It's so good.

[flat prism]

The story behind its development is so inspiring

[faint panther]

I was stuck on a combat challenge, but now I've got three of the plugs pulled on the north quadrant and I'm continuing on.

[flat prism]

stuck on combat challenge
Gets Jodi crystal flashbacks

That took me

An hour

To beat

[fervent zenith]

God, everyone enjoying DOOM and AC and I desperately need my Resident Evil fix

[flat prism]

I was just talking with net about Re2

Have you played the demo?

[fervent zenith]

Ye'

[flat prism]

Of re3

The dodge is so nice

A bit strong but needs timing ig

I want re4 remake

[fervent zenith]

Yeah but with that guy following you is a necessary buff

[flat prism]

I have like, 50 hours in re4 on pc

[faint panther]

RE4 needs a remake

[flat prism]

Probably a lot more on ps2 back in the day

My dad was so good at mercenaries

I couldn't keep up at all

[hexed hollow]

RE4 remake won't happen, Capcom makes more than enough money pumping out "remasters" for everything that exists

[fervent zenith]

Also re4 is perfect as it is

[flat prism]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeh

[faint panther]

No, RE4 has not aged well.

Graphically, sure.

But not a whit in its controls.

[fervent zenith]

Maybe too much Spexico in it

[faint panther]

They're bad.

[flat prism]

B a l l i s t i c s cue kinda awful physics

[faint panther]

I'm okay with distasteful cheese as long as the person eats it by the end.

[flat prism]

Special costume 2 is such a blessing

I was always getting tired of protecting Ashley

That part could use a bit of a polish

[faint panther]

And it comes with the extra stylish tommy gun.

[flat prism]

Oh yeaa

With infinite ammo

[fervent zenith]

Re3 in fact git sold early in France

[flat prism]

W h a t

[fervent zenith]

Some guy posted the entire walkthrough

[flat prism]

W H A T

[fervent zenith]

I dipped the first hour

Can I do a very small spoiler?

[flat prism]

Uuh

[fervent zenith]

I'll put tags

[flat prism]

I haven't played the original one so

Sure?

[fervent zenith]

It's that the demo baits you with something

||Jill uses in the game her re1 costume, not her re3||

[faint panther]

...

[fervent zenith]

At least in the leaked videos shevus seen specially putting ||Her balaclava on||

[flat prism]

Huh...

[fervent zenith]

Also the game begins ||in first person||

The game is more or less re2 length

Long at first, VERY short if you know what you are doing

[flat prism]

Agreed

[hexed hollow]

that sounds like most old school RE games

[flat prism]

It took my brother over 8 hours on his Leon run

I'm playing Claire and I'm going at like, double pace

We're playing together 1 at a time for obvious reasons

Mfw you go for a toilet break and he takes you back to a room with clickers

[hexed hollow]

Claire runs faster in caution (not sure what health you at)

[fervent zenith]

Yeah, the speedrunner route involves getting into caution with the Armless zombie of the street

[flat prism]

Bruuh

[raven harbor]

I'm going to argue that RE4's controls have aged wonderfully

[flat prism]

That's risky af though

Controls are fine

Graphics though

Eeeh

The zombie anims are also repetitive

[raven harbor]

It looks FineTM

[faint panther]

It was a GameCube title, it looks fine.

[raven harbor]

But I'd love a modern remake

[hexed hollow]

I mean, if you're speedrunning risky is kinda the name of the game (especially if you're going for wr)

[faint panther]

Good level design.

[flat prism]

It's not like, horrible, especially if you're playing on the HD remaster don't get me wrong

[fervent zenith]

Also given Nemesis gonna stalk you all game is logical you get buffed

[raven harbor]

There's a couple texture packs that go a long way towards fixing it

[flat prism]

I just wanna see my boi Leon suplexing Plagas in 4k in all its glory

[raven harbor]

Mood

[flat prism]

Mfw you can trigger an Ashley voiceline w the suplex

[raven harbor]

Honestly if they remade it I don't know if I'd want them to change the controls or not

[odd grove]

I just wanna know

[flat prism]

It's too new to change up the control scheme, though no more tank controls for certain

[odd grove]

Does RE2MAKE have an easter egg where you can play the og completely?

Cuz that's my favorite trope in game sequels

[raven harbor]

Like they'd have to bring it into line with modern entries but there's just something satisfying about getting good at the RE4 setup

[hexed hollow]

no, you can have the claire and leon models be the 98 versions though

[flat prism]

Also the original soundtrack in DLC

[hexed hollow]

yeah that too

[raven harbor]

Honestly like, just give me RE2make-style fully fledged Mercenaries entry and we'll be golden

[flat prism]

Give us sly 5 first plox

Oh

No guys

DEAD SPACE REMAKES

[hexed hollow]

ngl Project REsistance looks somewhat interesting

[flat prism]

My dad was such a horror game fan back in the day

I am still scarred from those games

[hexed hollow]

and that it's coming free with RE3make will but quite a bit of replay value with it

[fervent zenith]

If sounds kinda unbalanced

[hexed hollow]

4 v 1 survivor vs killer is always going to be balanced towards the killer being more powerful than the survivors, it kinda makes it harder to get a good balance especially when this is the side thing to RE3make which will have a tonne more time pumped into it

but we'll see what comes of it

[odd grove]

The epic version of the stanley parable still have the files that make it work with steam addons

Weirdchamp

[flat prism]

On that note though, remakes are always nice but I would prefer if AAA put that budget on original IPs

Guerilla games, popular for the killzone series, did something totally out of their comfort zone with Horizon and i have to say it's one of the better built open worlds I've experienced

Ninja theory, having released heavenly sword and enslaved: odyssey to the west (great games btw) took a deep dive with hellblade and it was magnificent

Even death stranding is a welcome addition in my eyes

[hexed hollow]

unfortunately original IP's are very risky from a financial standpoint, so having a remakes or sequals to existing well known IP is a good way to build a buffer in the case an original IP happens to flop for whatever reason

sequals/remakes also have a risk of flopping but it's less likely to happen with well known IP

[flat prism]

That's why we indie Devs only work on original stuff that we pray to cthulu won't flop

[odd grove]

Omen of sorrow is an example

From the fellas who made Zeno Clash

[flat prism]

Haven't heard of that

More game to be added to my wishlist?

[hasty kernel]

Well, some studios do still go for original IP with every game

Like Platinum Games

[raven harbor]

Platinum is a weird case

IIRC they only own sole rights to their latest project?

Their consistent issue has been "we'd love to make a sequel to X, but Y company would have to sign off as well"

[faint panther]

Yuuuuuup.

I think their next game will be Viewtiful Joe 3.

[raven harbor]

I think it's a totally original IP

That happens to fall in line with Viewtiful Joe and Wonderful 101

[fervent zenith]

It helps there is no draw value to a sequel unless it's popular-ish

[odd grove]

@flat prism No it

It's an example of a game that flopped hard

[fervent zenith]

Also Platinum is always a bit of a gamble if the games are successful

If the game doesn't become a Trainwreck on production and ends cancelled like Scalebound or also called 'How to bury your dragon'

[raven harbor]

I forget, was that cancelled because the tech wasn't there yet?

[fervent zenith]

Nope, because Microsoft and Platinum games relationship completely broke down, PG were very delayed in development and Microsoft not wanting to go full sunk cost fallacy ended pulling the plug in the middle of the development

Back then people were sure PG was gonna fold or getting bought

[raven harbor]

Sounds fair

Platinum has a great track record of like what, 3 actively bad games?

[fervent zenith]

Yeah, but I have the sensation of they had hadn't made Bayonetta they would have been bought years ago

Those two games were life-savers as a flop can sink a non-AAA game company

Look Team Bondi, makes one game that sells millions, company ends on a crunching fiasco and folds

[odd grove]

Wait

Platinum has 3 bad games? @raven harbor

[raven harbor]

TMNT, Star Fox: Zero, and Korra (arguably, I don't think it's that bad)

[fervent zenith]

Bayonetta, Bayonetta 2 and Metal Gear Rising

[raven harbor]

Tell me this server uses Falcon Ron as a Kappa

[fervent zenith]

Now seriously, Korra is the only middle ground game they've made the rest are either great or terrible

Well, maybe anarchy reigns was mediocre too or at least forgettable

[odd grove]

I mean

Animated show tie in game

it's mediocre at best

Unless they REALLY try hard

I dunno tho about metal gear rising

I don't like how parrying works

You tilt your stick, press a button... And, you are set

Whatever attack hits after that is parried, regardless of the time that's passed

If it was a regular "press button to parry" in royal guard style it would sit better with me, but that's just me

[raven harbor]

It parries all the time sure, but on Revengeance difficulty you get bodied if you don't perfect parry

[odd grove]

Sure but, changing how a mechanic works as a way of tweaking difficulty?

Bayonetta at least changes the enemy layout

[raven harbor]

Oh it works exactly the same

And Revengeance also throws more and harder enemies at you

[odd grove]

I hated the metal geat fight

Like, the first metal gear

[raven harbor]

With Ray?

[odd grove]

Yup

[raven harbor]

Do tell

[fervent zenith]

God-damned Ray

[odd grove]

He just jumps around throwing ranged attacks

And after you ninja run at him...

[fervent zenith]

I haven't played since the year it came out lol

[odd grove]

Poof, he's at the other side of the street

He's the reason i couldn't get S on that level y'know?

Not because i couldn't dodge

[raven harbor]

I don't think I can share the sentiment but I do appreciate it

[odd grove]

But because he kept stalling the fight more and more

The game just decided to give me a B

And with no way of stopping those jumps whatsoever

[fervent zenith]

Also Korra had the sports minigame making it worthy for me

[odd grove]

I can hardly think of anything good coming of Korra

Why is the sport minigame good when the sport thing on the show was literally irrelevant

[raven harbor]

The combat is mostly solid

Not super deep but the game was made with the budget of a paperclip and some pocket lint

[odd grove]

The graphics show that, yeah

You can just tell a game's budget from the HUD alone

[raven harbor]

I more meant the starting price of 15 bucks

[odd grove]

But either way was Ray even that "easy"

Cuz when fighting him, i repeat, my greatest concern was catching up with him rather than the actual act of dealing damage and so

[raven harbor]

I mean, it's definitely possible to put him down within two jumps

[odd grove]

The first phase, i mean

[raven harbor]

I think I might have gotten it in one once?

[odd grove]

I did not have the fully upgraded stuff, btw

[raven harbor]

The first mission you can't use any upgrades at all

[odd grove]

I mean in backtracking

[raven harbor]

Yeah

[odd grove]

I play one difficulty after another

[raven harbor]

You're locked into MGS4 Raiden for the first mission

[odd grove]

Wait but how can i deal damage

My combos were on A yet the time held be back to a B

[raven harbor]

I'd have to replay it to let you know

[odd grove]

???

[raven harbor]

I also haven't played it in maybe two years?

[odd grove]

I still don't get it honestly