Though it depends on the bread
#off-topic-discussion
hasty kernel
autumn pasture
it depends heavily on the bread
hasty kernel
Some is better with toppings, some is best enjoyed on its own
autumn pasture
sometimes i'm just not in a bread mood
now, dumplings? i could eat a good dumpling all day
hasty kernel
Again, Im german, we are very proud of our bread, so that may have an influence
autumn pasture
that's true
i'm american
so i've had good bread but i've also had mediocre sandwich bread
hasty kernel
Yeah
From what I know from my mum who flies to the US for work every couple of months or so
You basically need to find a polish bakery to have decent bread in the US
autumn pasture
yeah
some kind of specialty bakery
a good jewish deli also has good sandwich bread
roast beef on rye.......mmm
with horseraddish
hasty kernel
Oh right, delis are also an option
But yeah, thats one part Im very happy with in germany
autumn pasture
none in this town, sadly 😔
hasty kernel
Even the chain bakeries
The ones you find a dozen times in even a small city
Usually have a dozen different types of bread at a time (or a couple dozen)
And a bunch more that rotate in and out
autumn pasture
mmmm.........
hasty kernel
Oh and a bunch of bread rolls ontop of that
Even stuff like Bread with Olives in it
Or walnuts
hasty kernel
Wait, you mean like using potato flour, or actually containing potatoes?
autumn pasture
it was good, nice textural contrast
dense wren
tender cobalt
I just had some homemade apple pie as consolation for my failed Nemesis Aspect run on Hades 🍎 🥧
raven harbor
I cant stop thinking about the Smooth PB&J
tardy ore
@royal relic Lasagnas are like ogres...
@hasty kernel Burritos have rice. And/or beans.
Also, a big mac style sandwich is just a goddamn club sandwich.
As for whether a human is a sandwich? Humans are topographically donuts, if I remember correctly.
karmic karma
Depends on how many holes you include
Vsauce just did a vid on this, but if you include the two ears, the 4 tear ducts (no, I didn't know there were 4 either), and the 2 nostrils to the equation, oomies are topologicially equivalent to a 7 holed donut
hasty kernel
Well beans do go on a sandwich, so that wouldnt change much
tardy ore
Rice, though...
Well, that's just about as ingredient rebellious as a mac and cheese sandwich.
Which is carbs in carbs in carbs.
That's like the turducken of sandwiches.
vivid jackal
Hi! How are you there?
serene tulip
OK
I have the Ironclad the Silent and the Watcher all to ascension level 6
now to spend 100 runs doing the same for the defect
blissful charm
i am so incredibly tired
royal relic
Same
serene tulip
also
that one song in Dragon Age Inquisition is similar enough to the song pippin sings in return of the king that I'm now about 80% convinced they knowingly ripped it off
and this makes me angry/sad
tardy ore
What is a tolerance day, anyway
serene tulip
It is thought by some that you can build up a tolerance to daily stimulant usage, so you take a day or two off from taking them in order to keep them from losing effectiveness.
autumn pasture
iffy idea whereby you go off your adhd meds
i'm not 100% a fan of the idea bc like. i feel terrible when i'm off my meds
idk if the benefit is more than the hurt of going on and going off
serene tulip
Also it saves money 
autumn pasture
like i know when my father was a kid, kids weren't given meds on weekends or school holidays, which sounds hellish
.......that too ://
slim bobcat
maybe i'm just really late to the party but i'm playing through radiant historia for the first time and i'm loving it
snow meadow
i've yet to finish radiant historia but it's near and dear to my heart 🙂 are you playing the og game or perfect chronology?
tardy anchor
omg i got like. partway thru that...its a great game it just got too hard for me 😔
tardy ore
Which part, the combat?
tardy anchor
yeah
tardy ore
Aw man, the game was originally supposed to have the protagonist be a living sword.
tardy anchor
:0
tardy anchor
WE WERE ROBBED
tardy ore
An early idea was to incorporate the theme of immortality, which resulted in the main protagonist being an ageless sword rather than a living being. Following talks with Atlus, Takayashiki was persuaded to make the protagonist a human time traveler.
F
tardy anchor
F
tardy ore
I think I used a guide to get through the hard parts
or GRIND
I need to play the remake though
Also, the soundtrack is... just great
I should find wherever the hell I kept my copy
Actually!
The 3DS remake apparently has an easier mode.
It's called "Friendly Mode" and lets you use the 'surprise attack' overworld feature to instantly delete encounters you don't want to deal with, making it possible to focus on story outside of bosses.
tardy anchor
omg.....maybe ill get that one day
see where the story heads without bashing my head against fights
tardy ore
Yeah, although you do still have to fight bosses
But you can actually look up guides for those.
It just cuts out as much of the "time to play this same battle AGAIN, time traveler man" as you want
slim bobcat
@snow meadow i didn’t realize there was a 3ds remake lmao, i’m playing through the ds version
the combat is very fun to me, usually i think normal battles are a grind in other rpgs but this game keeps me hella engaged
plus the story and how the white chronicle tie together with it is all very 👌
primal sparrow
royal relic
man...
i can't wait for Man Literally Too Angry To Die 2 to come out
in less than a month 
oooh, the hype
THE HYPE
it's real, folks 
well - i mean
it's more like "Man Literally Too Angry To Die 5" if you wanna be more precise
but i treat doom 2016 as a soft reboot of sorts
serene tulip
I thought that man literally too angry to die was john wick
also
I seriously can't emphasize enough how much I think folks should do weightlifting
I love how strong I feel sometimes
serene tulip
I did stronglifts 5x5 in college
autumn pasture
the gym was actually $40k/year in tuition
serene tulip
Now I pay for a coach because I don't want to injure myself
It was a bit cheaper in my day
serene tulip
like, almost 30k cheaper
autumn pasture
imagine if accredited non-community colleges were still 10k
yeah, even those are expensive nowadays unfortunately
serene tulip
I just remember getting the first check to hand to the bursar and I was like, "this is the most money I've ever held by two orders of magnitude"
tender cobalt
I wished I could do weightlifting 😦
serene tulip
I wish you could too D:
tardy ore
I'm trying to get in shape, but the motivation is just plain ironic...
I like eating... but the only way to eat more and not die early is to put on muscle and therefore burn more calories, so I figured screw it. I'll earn the right to splurge.
raven harbor
I'm getting into the swing of not sitting at my desk all day and Ring Fit is helping a lot more than I expected
serene tulip
I bought all the stuff for weekly meal prep
but I'm failing so hard at actually doing it
fervent zenith
Anyone here here played the pillars of the earth game?
blissful charm
absolutely tragic: two of my favorite boba places have closed down
blissful charm
hey can someone answer a taxes question for me
upbeat scroll
only if you're ok with wrong answers
blissful charm
very helpful thanks
chilly briar
Lol probably best to ask a finance subreddit or something
near mulch
hi
cyan plaza
Hello, question, did anyone else buy the 10th anniversary vinyl collection and if you did have you received it yet? I’m still waiting for mine
blissful charm
forced memes are bad
tardy ore
Spam copypastas are never a meme unless they're actually funny like the Navy Seal thing. But that's too family unfriendly for this server.
blissful charm
navy seal is an absolute classic
karmic karma
What's this you've said to me, my good friend? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in conflict resolution, and I've been involved in numerous friendly discussions, and I have over 300 confirmed friends. I am trained in polite discussions and I'm the top mediator in the entire neighbourhood. You are worth more to me than just another target. I hope we will come to have a friendship never before seen on this Earth. Don't you think you might be hurting someone's feelings saying that over the internet? Think about it, my friend. As we speak I am contacting my good friends across the USA and your P.O. box is being traced right now so you better prepare for the greeting cards, friend. The greeting cards that help you with your hate. You should look forward to it, friend. I can be anywhere, anytime for you, and I can calm you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my chess set. Not only am I extensively trained in conflict resolution, but I have access to the entire group of my friends and I will use them to their full extent to start our new friendship. If only you could have known what kindness and love your little comment was about to bring you, maybe you would have reached out sooner. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now we get to start a new friendship, you unique person. I will give you gifts and you might have a hard time keeping up. You're finally living, friend.
tardy anchor
zag before boss fights
fringe sparrow
Next announcement of platinum 4 will be 02.26.2020 huh
Thier site show that on second star 🌟
tardy ore
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/369491013791645696/681548074459594776/IMG-20200224-WA0004.jpg a Spy
autumn pasture
nooooooooooo
somber ferry
oh no
tranquil bay
im simultaneously angry and impressed with that tweet
tardy ore
F
lilac remnant
RIP
tranquil bay
i may or may not have been crawling through twitter for spicy mythology memes the past week
wide falcon
Hera doesn't even like her legitimate children
tranquil bay
royal relic
oh what in the world...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2hytfsXExM
look how they massacred my boy
copper lark
ive missed this chat
tough escarp
PAX East hype! 
I'll be there on Thursday! 
hasty kernel
Oh hey, Syd is back
raven harbor
I'm so excited to watch people play Doom while I tend to my deserted island
hasty kernel
I just love the Doomguy and Isabelle memes
raven harbor
They're so good
Even the Doom Twitter account is in on it
Broke: Doom Slayer in Smash
Woke: Doom Slayer in Animal Crossing
hasty kernel
Bespoke: Doom Slayer alternate Costume for Isabelle
Its just Isabelle cosplaying Doom Slayer
tardy ore
Why are these memes so accurate?
@hasty kernel Bespoke: Doom Slayer cosplaying Isabelle
sudden torrent
Bespoke Beyond: Isabelle in Doom Eternal.
faint panther
You know the dolls in DOOM? Isabelle is one of those.
tardy ore
it's a joke
royal relic
fervent zenith
sudden torrent
Unsure if this has been the case yet, but I have noticed that in the few Discord of Developers there been freshly made bots joining that randomly pick people to advertise stuff in DMs, so to the mod team out there, I hope you see it and aware of that if this hasn't happened yet and wish luck if it does!
royal relic
i'm not a bot, i swear
royal relic
i did a captcha few days ago and it let me through
fervent zenith
Its happening in other server I visit too
velvet fjord
Prove! Prove you're not a robot!
royal relic
- beep boop *
i don't have my old mettaton avatar
i have a fleshy, squishy, human gordon freeman instead
that surely has to mean i'm a human too!
now excuse me - i have to lubricate my internal organs with enslaved moisture to prevent them from overheating * beep boop *
||however - i still have my robutt emote 
||
||i love that hunk of junk too much to let go of it completely|| 🤖
gentle flume
I didn't mean I tried 70 hours to beat it, I meant I had played around 70 hours on another system prior to that. haha
gentle flume
Probably took me around 15-20 hours before beating it first time.
Then I double-dipped on it, and then played once and beat HotK first run. haha
I'd say Dead Cells was my favorite rougelike game.
tardy ore
Mmmmm
gentle flume
But I like Hades better.
tardy ore
I bought it nearly two weeks ago, am close to refund deadline, unsure whether to keep it.
Because I'm pretty crap at it
gentle flume
Oh, I still haven't even beaten it with 1 Cell yet. lol
tardy ore
First run was... mmm, I died on the ramparts a bit after unlocking that custom rune, and I still get the crap kicked out of me by green zombies
Is it worthwhile for people who aren't good at the game, since unlike Hades, it's not a narrative heavy game with lots of other stuff to get invested in...
gentle flume
I think it's 100% worthwhile.
There's still a lot of fun to be had with it.
The only thing that bothers me.
Is there's one area that's gated to being good.
You have to beat it with 5 Cells to get to one spot.
But even not considering that, there's a ton of content.
tardy ore
Mmm. Guess I'll give it a shot, I hate tossing back games and like the basic feel of it
gentle flume
Even just with 0 Cells, some tips I have:
Learn to parry - it's amazing and can block almost everything
Basically throw all in run upgrades into one thing.
Like instead of balancing tactics, brutality, survival, throw it all into one thing, and you end up with crazy damage with that thing
And the extra skills can be used to cheese things a lot
Like bombs/grenades/slicer/etc.
Can throw them and wait for recharge
All in all, the game feels really similar to Hades in the learning curve
gentle flume
But it only has 6 difficulty levels, so it's kinda like if you were to add in 5 heat every time you play.
tardy ore
I'm just not good at consistent timing.
That's the issue.
I can time something perfectly sometimes
gentle flume
Another tip: Once you can reliably beat the first boss, you get the ability to make weapon drops better.
You can kick down the door at the collector instead of giving him cells.
And save up your cells for after that first boss.
tardy ore
Yeah, I know pretty much all the random side tips
gentle flume
Ah
tardy ore
I'm just wondering if I can actually play past 0 cells, because the game seems to really really emphasize playing as consistently as possible.
gentle flume
It didn't take me too much longer to be able to reliably get to the end of 1 Cell
tardy ore
Here you have options to screw up
gentle flume
But I just die on the boss.
tardy ore
I suppose worst case, there's custom mode and/or outright modding, not like it's a competition for me
gentle flume
Yeah, I haven't played with mods because I was on Switch at first.
tardy ore
More thinking - is the variety of gear and things worth just playing around for the sake of it?
gentle flume
For sure
tardy ore
I modded Hollow Knight to be a little bit easier and had a great time.
gentle flume
It feels similar to this with things like swords, shields, bows, etc.
tardy ore
Or at least, differently difficult
gentle flume
But they have a lot of different effects
And there's other weapons like sandals, whips, etc. too
tardy ore
oh yes, the infamous boot
the bad meme weapon
well, if it's a game that doesn't have the stick up its ass too far to NOT have joke weapons, I guess it's worth it
:^)
gentle flume
I had an interesting run with it before
Where I had a whip I think that brought enemies closer
then kick them away
tardy ore
that and I do enjoy just having Bread as an option
fervent zenith
God
tardy ore
baguette/10
fervent zenith
Got a ginrmous list of games to play
tardy ore
I do like how fluid the movement feels, even when you're not exactly doing it well
gentle flume
After buying a Switch I got really into Roguelikes
tardy ore
Weighty, but not... clunky and full of stops and starts
gentle flume
Dead Cells feels amazing. haha
tardy ore
That kind of slow, I hate
gentle flume
And sometimes you get a random collar that gives you quadjumping
tardy ore
By comparison, Zagreus feels like he's made of air half the time
our boy Zag is F A S T
gentle flume
Man my last run
40% movement speed, +3 dashes, +100% movement speed for ? seconds after dashing
I wish I took a video of that lol
gentle flume
And had Athena dash
gentle flume
even without crazy damage that run, I got 1/2 of Hades lifebar without getting hit
tardy ore
Technically, when you think about it
Deja vu... he has been in this place before
hey, the chorus of that song really fits Hades
gentle flume
Which song?
tardy ore
Deja Vu
I've just been in this place before
Higher on the street
And I know it's my time to go
Calling you and the search is mystery
Standing on my feet
It's so hard when I try to be me uoooh!```- i'm required to proceed at an accelerated pace *
tardy ore
tight deadline intensifies
tardy anchor
omg.............
tardy ore
See my past lives in the distance
Try to guess now what's going on```
fates say hinow we need an aspect that's just
car
tardy anchor
chariot
tardy ore
yes
tardy anchor
I WANNA DRIIIVE
tardy ore
delivering ancient greek... whatever the equivalent of tofu is
all the way to the surface
tardy anchor
theseus: 🚗
zag: youre not the only one who can turn into a car. im a car now, too
tardy anchor
thanatos car.................
hasty kernel
Vanatos
tardy ore
rofl
gentle flume
Aspect of Honda
tardy anchor
faint panther
Looks like Edward Elric designed it.
copper lark
i feel bad bc i always come in here, say hi then immediately vanish again
tardy anchor
just like thanatos......... 
tropic garden
pof.
sudden torrent
They said that and poofed away again without a reply. 😔
we got a real Thanatos here.
tardy anchor
faint panther
...What the hell is that on his face?
tardy anchor
its...just a smiling emoji i made
is something wrong with it? i made it a while ago, it might not be as clear as it could be hhhh
faint panther
I just never see Zag with a full smile like that.
tardy anchor
ahhhhh
faint panther
He's only ever got the half-smirk in his first portrait.
faint panther
I'm sure we'll get some good smiles in the epilogue.
tardy anchor
🙏
faint panther
👏 LET 👏 ZAG 👏 SMOOCH 👏 MEG/THAN 👏
chilly briar
... theg
chilly briar
Mhangatos
tardy anchor
copper lark
very cute
serene tulip
tardy ore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPsK4QAVGCc
Demeter.avi
royal relic
royal relic
PSA
season 5 of BCS is up on netflix
fringe sparrow
The f... happen... Restarted my router and for 5min all DNS was redirected to wuhan.cn ... and was not able to connect to anything ...
tardy ore
Welp, guess your machines were hit by a (corona)virus.
fringe sparrow
I have huawei Laptop and Router hahah
odd grove
That explains it guess
serene tulip
I think I'm sick 😦
odd grove
@serene tulip yo that's sick
sudden torrent
autumn pasture
nice
tender cobalt
I just realized that and I think it’s awesome 
hardy briar
frail wyvern
Asking here bc I feel it's the most appropiate place, but I've seen in the PAX site (I'm not at all familiar with it) that tomorrow's Orchestra will overlap with a bunch of other events, does anyone know to wether the PAX Twitch site will stream the Orchestra in particular? Or if Supergiant will stream it themselves?
velvet fjord
I believe, I think, pax has multiple streams
I come to this conclusion because last time I accidentally watched jackbox gameplay footage before realizing the concert had begun
wide ember
PAX did mention Supergiant in Concert in the stream schedule here: https://www.twitch.tv/team/pax
in the main one (pax) while the side ones (pax2, pax3, etc.) cover other stuff
somber ferry
Yes the concert is getting streamed
lean cave
Yo who’s going to the concert tomorrow ?
neon island
autumn pasture
meeee
lean cave
Hell hyped! Gonna head over to line at 7:15
opaque quail
I am! 😄
somber ferry
me!! 
fervent zenith
Some pretty nice gems here to be released
My personal list:
Othercide
The Falconeer
Shadow of the Road
Spirit of The North
Haven (<3)
Hellpoint
Cloudpunk
GameDec
Hazel
hasty kernel
Oh haven was that adorable RPG about a couple stranded on a planet, wasnt it?
tardy ore
ye
hasty kernel
Not my thing, but it looked charming as all hell
Also I feel for the guys making GameDec
Making a pure RPG this shortly after the masterpiece that was Disco Elysium
Those are some tough expectations
fervent zenith
I love the premise
A detective that enters into MMORPGs to solve crimes
(Also not stranded, they eloped)
hasty kernel
Oh, I thought they were stranded on that planet
tardy ore
hot damn I wanna play that now
hasty kernel
And yeah, the premise is interesting
But still, tough sell in a post-Disco Elysium world
Ill probably check it out
Either way
fervent zenith
Yeah I have 100% confidence gamedec will have brilliant writing
hasty kernel
I sure hope youre right
fervent zenith
I mean DE was my fav game of 2019 so I'm biased lol
hasty kernel
Oh no Disco Elysium was absolutely stellar
Im just not sure this game will be
The studio has only done a VR game before it
hasty kernel
I mean DEs UI was kinda clunky
fervent zenith
Yeah lol
hasty kernel
Surprisingly almost none of the games interest me
GameDec might be the only one
Undungeon sounded interesting but the gameplay didnt look great
Oh, Ghostrunner maybe
fervent zenith
I also Got interested in the Xcom meets feudal Japan
hasty kernel
That one is only 2022 so I didnt think about it much
fervent zenith
Yeah Lol
The other interesting feudal Japan game comes sooner
Ghosts of something cant remember
Tsukuhima
hasty kernel
I think its Ghost of Tsushima
Black Skylands would be interesting, but I dont like the Birds eye view perspective
fervent zenith
Also Othercide just called me for the visual aspect
Only for that I'll keep watch
serene tulip
lean cave
Yo concert at PAX East was dope last night! Hope you all had an awesome time as well!
fringe sparrow
karmic karma
It was actually this documentary series that convinced me to join this Discord, I was always of the opinion developer-run discords were a-bad-thing, but I've proven wrong
upbeat scroll
faint panther
The cat's tired of the crow's shenanigans and the latter doesn't care in the slightest
serene tulip
fervent zenith
What game is that from? :v
real shoal
I haven't played this rougelike called monolith in a long while and i realized it's still getting updates
upbeat scroll
"It's hard to believe, but the modern urinal was originally invented by Marcel Duchamp as an art piece in 1917. Decades later, engineers discovered that Duchamp's beautiful design was also useful as a specialized toilet."
serene tulip
Wolcen
Its not a great game
but I get to be purple
for example
also my character has been called he a number of times
which seems..... telling
serene tulip
There's a stunning lack of variety of skills
there's a whole bunch of variation of passive abilities
traits
whatever
but like, for activatable abilities there's essentially 3.5 classes
magic, melee weapons, ranged weapons, and the half class that's ranged weapons and/or daggers
then you can subspecialize with the trait tree thing that's pretty customizable
you can split these classes by like, having different one handed weapons
and so far there's been no gamebreaking bugs but its very obviously buggy
Its no Fallout New Vegas
odd grove
Hmm
Sad
I guess that's a thing PoE does better
Weapons just dictates your active gem pool
Then you can pick stuff based on damage, strats and such
And now they are adding MORE passives
Like, build-a-tree
@serene tulip If Wolcen ain't that good i strongly suggest you try PoE
There's a big league coming too
odd grove
Eh, fair
serene tulip
I'm not good at optimizing these characters
serene tulip
It feels like each time I reroll my traits/stats I just get worse.
odd grove
That's the matter with flexible "classes"
serene tulip
odd grove
In something like BL2 skill trees are more straight forward
but in PoE, wolcen, etc
You are given choices in such broad ways
It's easy to lose yourself
It's the reason you can't see the full menu on display at McDonalds
serene tulip
Right now my algorithm is, "if it increases crit chance, crit damage, attack speed, or damage, get it"
odd grove
And then you die lol
serene tulip
I only die to bosses
odd grove
A good build needs some degree of survivability
serene tulip
Everything else, pretty much, I kill in one hit.
But make number get big!
I have points in life steal
That counts, right?
odd grove
Yeah
If you are a dodge character you can afford low hp
So long you don't get oneshot, healing back up is a reliable strategy
Hell i theory crafted a Sans build for PoE
serene tulip
I started out just wanting to swing big swords
serene tulip
They aren't great in wolcen either imo
serene tulip
I will decide?
sudden torrent
we will decide
serene tulip
Atelier Ryza
sudden torrent
I know none of these so uuuh
fervent zenith
Lel
sudden torrent
Atelier Ryza yes,
serene tulip
fervent zenith
I admit I know little of them
I just got interested in God eater after discovering Code Vein is it's secret Spinoff
hasty kernel
God Eater 3 Id say
In terms of gameplay its the most fun one
But its also the only one that isnt really a JRPG, its in the Monster Hunter genre
serene tulip
I dunno about y'all
but I like talking to my close friends every day
but I'm not convinced they like me doing that
so some days I just don't talk to anyone
just to give them a day off
but I'm like just, opening instant messengers being like, "oh man, I wanna tell them that"
and then like, "no, you talked to them all week"
hasty kernel
Its in the genre, but pretty different
Mainly its way more fast-paced and action-y
With less of the downtime that Monster Hunter has like fishing, mining stuff, or trying to trek down the monster
serene tulip
oh my good god
This book I'm listening to
it seems like the author realized he'd forgotten to put the male gaze
and then decided to pack the last three chapters with an entire book's worth
Cast Under an Alien Sun is a solid 3/10 for me
by Olan Thorensen
fervent zenith
Why the Scandinavians got all the cool names?
I bought in a con a book some guys were selling, they seemed so excited to have their first book published
They even had a special edition with the cover carved out of wood
serene tulip
sorry proxy
I'm just so mad. He's commented on this women's breasts 3 times now and its DURING A ||[redacted]|| PIRATE RAID
tardy ore
@serene tulip sounds like Chinese webnovels
no joke, I've had the misfortune of reading a novel where the author kept talking about a woman's "mature allure" and "twin peaks" every three paragraphs
fervent zenith
That reminds me to a hilarious drama a year ago
Have you ever heard of the 'cleaning gal fiasco'?
tardy ore
no
@serene tulip Actually. Having read the reviews...
LMAO
I can't believe you got to the last three chapters
serene tulip
Its been mediocre since the start
tardy ore
I would have dropped it by the time I discovered the secondary world was just another lazy carbon copy of generic 18th century Europe.
serene tulip
but not bad enough to stop reading
serene tulip
I just thought that there was something interesting he could have done there
like, bring up the aliens
hasty kernel
Ok Im not sure if Im going insane, or if Firealpaca always had slightly blurry images
Not images
Uh
Bars?
The text stuff around the image
fervent zenith
Cleaning gal was a wholesome slice of life webmanga where a guy lived and cleaned his crush flat (a gal) then chapter 8 happened
In chapter 8 they ended trapped in a locker
Then came chapter 8.5,
Then chapter 8.6
8.7
8.8
8.9
8.91
All while trapped in the locker
Then 8.93 the School council president caught her
Then the manga ended
People were confused
The author deleted his Twitter and everybody thought he went insane
sudden torrent
The pay off of doing that though! Your future you will be thankful to you.
serene tulip
future me is a chump
sudden torrent
Don't say that! What if future you hear about that?
tardy ore
what the heck, lmao
sudden torrent
You have to be respectful towards elders. 😔
velvet fjord
future me can come fight me
what's he gonna do
tardy ore
no, that manga
ROFL
any more details and the entire convo will probably get yeeten out of this server
fervent zenith
Anyways know I'm reading a VERY wholesome mangs
tardy ore
Actually, at that point, might want to start removing some of this info, you might get modded
fervent zenith
And I hope this one doesn't disappoint
Done
Has anyone hear read the new mtg licensed Manga
More or less licensed
Dunno the details
It's about two mtg players that fall in love after being mtg buddies
hasty kernel
I dont think its licensed
But yeah Ive read it
Its called "Destroy all Humankind, they can't be regenerated"
fervent zenith
Destroy all humankind. It can't be regenerated. @serene tulip
Damn you beat me to it
hasty kernel
Hehe
fervent zenith
Yeah it was originally a one shot that became popular so they made it a full Manga
Talking about mangai began rereading snk as the finale is approaching
It's incredible how his art improved all these years
You can see how good he became at drawing
Wholesome at his own way
Even if snk is all but wholesome 😄
hasty kernel
But yeah Destroy all Humankind is pretty wholesome
tardy ore
That reminds me I'm hyped for Destroy All Humans reboot
I hope it's a good remake.
Not a lazy, halfassed one.
It's looking... Spyro Reignited-level good in the demo, better not be hiding 3000 bugs
tardy ore
yeet
it's a far better one than the Crash remaster imo
Crash one... the physics feels slightly off
Apparently something to do with Crash's physics model being pill shaped, so you can't really stand on edges super precisely like before, you slide off
And older games with new physics = not nice, since they weren't adjusted for the jump spacing or anything.
Spyro one is just beautiful, though
fervent zenith
I am reading the one I said earller
Only available in Spanish, tho
Welp, the RPGs dont download in Steam
Time to get the other games in the Backburner
Have you played Bladed Fury or The Turing Test?
wide ember
Snow Crash maybe?
I also remember His Dark Material séries being very good, though the ending was not satisfying
fervent zenith
I heard his new books are significantly worse
I need to remember this trilogy I read last year
Pretty grim overall but VERY good
the Broken Earth series
Three times Hugo award winners
I can't understate how good I thought they were
wide ember
I think that’s the second time I see Broken Earth being suggested in this channel
wide ember
I meant this as a good thing, more recommendation usually means better quality
fervent zenith
Also this ain't a small server
wide ember
What was the series that stemmed from a Harry Potter fanfic again?
The one with a sidequel on livejournal
The one with the gays
serene tulip
NK Jemesin is pgreat
fervent zenith
@wide ember I think you're talking about The Mortal Instruments
wide ember
It’s not The Mortal Instruments tho this looks interesting
I just got home, I probably bookmarked it
it was Carry On (Simon Snow series)
...I think I somehow misplaced my hell.com again
wide ember
awesome -> broken earth, snow crash, neuromancer
gay -> carry on, crush, vellum
high definition -> discworld, his dark material
something like that?
hasty kernel
Im not sure what you mean
Also His Mortal Instruments was good though the third book was
Confusing
Wait no
Thats the wrong series Im thinking of
His dark materials was the one I was thinking of
Also I still gotta read the third Neuromancer book
Ive not been able to find it
Yknow what, Ill just buy it on Amazon
fervent zenith
Anyone read Mistborn here?
serene tulip
Ancilliary Justice and Memories of Empire are cool
wide ember
awesome list = plot escalates in a good way, gay list = relatable gay moods, high definition list = high complexity world and story building that spans over multiple books
vellum was defined by the author as a “Cubist epic fantasy” and I have to agree, the story had a really good structure that wasn’t very common
wide ember
Ancillary Justice looks interesting (and I wish I had tried mistborn if only to know)
serene tulip
Every character is she/her because the MC explains that her language doesn't have a gendered pronoun so she just arbitrarily chose she/her.
I wonder if the books been translated into other languages....
blissful charm
anyone interested in a cat video
faint panther
Always.
faint panther
Tuxedos. 😭
sudden torrent
Oh we be sharing cats?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583419755608801312/683910581052244020/IMG_20190321_000722.jpg
Chopik and Snowball.
tardy ore
@fervent zenith Hot damn yes. Brandon Sanderson is a wizard.
Cats!
@sudden torrent Good thing the first one isn't named Napoleon.
:p
Anyway, I recommend Hitchhiker's Guide... Jim Butcher's anything, really...
sudden torrent
Snowball really be keeping him down for a hug.
tardy ore
Ah yes. A ferocious predator
sudden torrent
tardy ore
sudden torrent
Awwh
wild nest
re: books, i've been REALLY enjoying Three Parts Dead and the rest of the Craft Series by Max Gladstone, and also This is how you lose the time war
tardy ore
Oh hey that one is neat
Max Gladstone is good
I don't know the latter though.
Jasper Fforde I recall being good.
royal relic
18 days left
tardy ore
For?
lean cave
@royal relic AC?
fervent zenith
Or Doom
wide ember
@serene tulip heh, that's pretty interesting, because the local supermarket calendars I get default to she/her for their english translations too, though no reason is given
Max Gladstone is pretty good, though the series gets more and more animesque with time
the first Red King scene was rather Kill la Kill, hilariously
The first chronological book of Craft Series is Last First Snow, and the first published was Three Parts Dead, and there are two sidequel/spinoff Choice Of games
(I said sidequel but it's best to play the games after you learn about the Red King)
tender cobalt
I like how the AC & Doom community are being wholesome on having the same release date 🌈
velvet fjord
rip and tear, until your loans are paid off
blargh I'm conflicted
I want to buy the fe3h expansion pass, but also doom eternal is coming out
and also I just bought red dead redemption 2 so maybe I should just finish that
vivid ridge
nah save for doom
wide ember
as someone who loves the FE series, I'm suggesting buying doom eternal first
because fe3h's main game is good enough without the expansions
royal relic
doom, of course 
eternal?
according to my man hugo it's going to be about 20 hours long
give or take
velvet fjord
even this chat is conflicted
I'll wait and see how eternal shapes up, I liked doom2016 enough to beat ultra nightmare so we'll see
if nothing else I'll just save and get both lol
velvet fjord
unrelated: oh god what is the artemis fowl movie I hate it
fair sable
Oh yea there is a movie now... I remember reading the books ages ago.
velvet fjord
I read it years and years ago
the trailer looks awful
wide ember
...did I hallucinate that the artemis fowl book was about this boy genius stealing fairy gold to keep his family bank account alive after his dad gone missing and mom gone insane?
because the movie is nothing that I remember, is it some alternate continuity?
nova pilot
Nah, that's basically the book
I've always had very low hopes for the Artemis Fowl movie
Despite absolutely loving the book series, I always firmly believed it would be Eragonified if it were made a movie
fair sable
Nope. That was exactly what the first Artemis Fowl book was about.
hushed zenith
He technically kidnapped a fairy to get a RANSOM of fairy gold to fund the search for said missing dad.
tardy anchor
oh boy i just watched the trailer
hushed zenith
the movie even did away with that first bit
tardy anchor
errgh............
fair sable
Later books got a bit muddied.....
Honestly I didn't really like how the series ended.
The first books were the strongest.
hushed zenith
I stopped being able to track it after the fourth book? Which sounds like it was for the best.
nova pilot
I've read all of the main series books
Haven't read the Fowl Files or the graphic novels (which were apparently a thing?)
And it did get kinda weird
But book 5 was quite good
hushed zenith
I know I read the one that had like, time travel involved? Had a red cover? And I remember Opal's whole deal.
But beyond that it's a blank.
fair sable
Book covers tend to change or get revamped at times so... idk..
hushed zenith
The Eternity Code got me back when I first read it though, it was really good.
fair sable
But yea time travel was eventually a thing.
hushed zenith
Lost Colony! Yeah, that one!
The cover was consistently red in all versions I looked at so it stuck, especially in the bookset it came with that had them all matching.
Gold>Silver>Blue>Black with opalish stuff> Red
fair sable
I mean it was pretty good but it felt like it started to head to a completely different genre than the beginning books.
It felt less focused on things being solved through clever reasoning and more....
just everything is solved through magic means.
hushed zenith
Less morally dubious criminal activity, more sci fi fantasy?
nova pilot
For sure, yeah
I remember I read the 7th book in a single night, but I have no recollection of anything that happens in it
Except that there's a submarine
hushed zenith
I do remember cracking the code that got put at the bottom and tops of the pages for fun.
I think I still have the replacement code cheat sheet around here somewhere.
nova pilot
Yeah the fairy alphabet!
I remember a friend showed me how they did it
Recognizing the word "the" in fairy script was something he figured out
Also, from wiki:
In 2001 plans were announced for a film adaptation of the series.
And they're just getting it done now......
Makes me even less sure that this is gonna be a good movie nwo
fair sable
I don't remember there being any code on the top or the bottom of the pages.
I think I started reading them in Dutch, maybe that got left out... :/
hushed zenith
it was a replacement cipher for English letters, so trying to translate it might've been too much effort for the publishers.
nova pilot
Yeah, that kinda sucks
tropic garden
oh my god???? wow that was uh
that sure was something
they just uhhh pasted character names onto an entirely original story, huh
nova pilot
I guess so.......
tropic garden
I guess artemis is like. a hero now who doesn't know his dad does sketchy stuff and holly is his??? friend??? from the start?
his dad is in like??? magic protection force and works with them???
this is so weird
hushed zenith
oh god why
tropic garden
it's unrecognizable from a plot summary standpoint, they like copy and pasted the hunt for artemis sr. from arctic incident but then skipped over all the development between artemis and the fairies from the first book by making mulch and holly allies/employees of artemis sr. and making him some kind of magical...border....guardian
is what i'm getting from the trailer anyways
and artemis seems unaware that his dad had a criminal empire
and it seems kind of unlikely that his dad is actually a criminal in this but is actually a magic spy who's just misunderstood
hushed zenith
That's... SO contrary to the cool parts of what made the books interesting, too, so darn shame.
Where's the character development going to even come from if we can't watch this south-of-good 12 year old slowly grow into being a more relatively decent person
nova pilot
Not to mention one of the most amazing climaxes of any story I've read is the Siege of Fowl Manor
Like, releasing the minotaur into the house was insane
Time-stopping the whole area was awesome
hushed zenith
It makes me worried that they're not going to even touch the biobomb and the absolute horror that concept introduced and examined.
nova pilot
Holly finally getting to punch Artemis in the face
wide ember
I'm not sure if I remember this one well, but Artemis saving Holly ||using the acorn to basically reboot her||
tropic garden
It seems like they aren't even going to cover the fowl manor plotline
like, at all
artemis is an intelligent but otherwise naïve-seeming standard boy wonder protag
hushed zenith
So the persona he'd use when talking to his therapist instead of actually opening up.
nova pilot
Holly takes a very critical wound from the minotaur, and Artemis takes her acorn from her and plants it in the soil below the floor beneath them which was cracked from the battle
Which recharges her magic and heals her
hasty kernel
Wow, even the Eragon movie at least had the decency to keep the basic plotline intact
wide ember
right, and Holly was thinking about how she had gone too long without recharging in the beginning of the book
Eragon was... I mean, you are not wrong
hasty kernel
Look Im not saying the movie was good
Im just saying young me who had read the books wasnt too bothered by the movie
wide ember
that's why I had to say you are not wrong
Eragon movie was still "this will still be enjoyed by majority of the readers of the books"
meanwhile, Artemis Fowl's target audience... the modus operandi (sp?) seems to be "people who've never read the book can enjoy this and the readers of the books' outrage will generate free publicity for us"
nova pilot
[...] and the readers of the books' outrage will generate free publicity for us
I already knew big corporations had gotten social media manipulation down to a science... I just hate it
On the other hand... did Cats make a profit?
nova pilot
Wait a goddamn second
Why in hell's name has Commander Root been gender-swapped??????
Holly Short being the first female LepRECON officer was, like, a Big Deal
hushed zenith
they did WHAT?
nova pilot
Commander Root is Judy goddamn Dench
wide ember
I didn't recognize commander root from the trailers at all
hasty kernel
Never a good sign
nova pilot
Can't believe Eoin Colfer allowed this
wide ember
and there's an interview article saying that Eoin Colfer agreed with the changes in the movie, though I'm pretty sure the words had been placed outside its original context
nova pilot
Butler being race-swapped was, like, acceptableish, if you're OK with some erasure of Eastern influence
But, like, this is next level bad
Gotta see that interview at some point
wide ember
and Cats didn't make a profit, it was a flop
the movie with uncanny valley make up I mean
nova pilot
Maybe fan rage can make this one flop too, but probably not
It's not gonna be on Cats' level
And now I hate that I'm rooting for an Artemis Fowl movie to flop
But, like, it appears to be barely Artemis Fowl
nova pilot
No I couldn't
wide ember
it's corporate social manipulation wearing the sleeve of your beloved childhood
the only thing let to do is to shot it down, unless they manipulated you into shooting it
if there is a silver lining to it, it would be that the outcry lead to more people reading the books so they know what the outrage was about, and that the majority end up liking the books enough to boycott the movie
then again, disney owns the books' publishing rights, so they make money either way
(no really, Hyperion publishing was bought by Disney at some point, so it's now Hachette under Disney Books)
upbeat scroll
Thanks disney for ruining everything
nova pilot
God damn why must they be so rich
wide ember
because we all loved Little Mermaid, Lion King, Mulan, Wall-E and etc.
they do make genuinely good movies now and then
nova pilot
Which Lion King? Which Mulan? Little Mermaid was decades ago and WALL-E was Pixar's doing
wide ember
Disney bought Pixar
nova pilot
Yeah
wide ember
so legally speaking, Disney made it, even when it was Pixar
it's like, if you are a intern and you make a discovery, they would say the team lead made the discovery and you remain nameless and penniless
Disney went from evil (forcing lemmings to their death to make "documentary" of lemming suicide), to good-ish (helped Chinese American into making Bambi's art designs, made several genuinely good movies), to evil again ("I can just use money and manipulation to make more money")
hasty kernel
I wouldnt say evil, as much as theyre just amoral
Which is arguably the default for companies in capitalism because morality is expensive
nova pilot
Probs true but in practice the majority of humans would call them the same thing
hasty kernel
Maybe, but I think there is an important distinction between the two
wide ember
(I must say in earnest that I enjoy it when you play the contrarian, UNOvven)
hasty kernel
Im not being contrarian
... I just realised the irony of that statement
Gosh Darn it
wide ember
well, you know what I mean even when I'm not using the exact word
hasty kernel
Yeah
wide ember
(and technically, I'm the contrarian here)
hasty kernel
But yeah, I do think its important to distinguish between amorality and evil
wide ember
immoral is the closer word to evil, amoral is what ever they desire regardless of morality
hasty kernel
Yeah, immoral is doing the wrong thing
Amoral is acting without caring if its right or wrong
wide ember
so if it's profitable to be good and that's what a corporation under capitalism wants, they would want to have good behaviours if they are amoral
hasty kernel
Yup
wide ember
this would imply that the consumers have the powers to manipulate them into acting good
hasty kernel
Which in most systems they do not
wide ember
because the market was set by the corporations, not by consumers
and if a market competitor was doing good, both as in doing ecological/ethical/altruistic things as in making profits, they are soon bought or pushed out to weed out competitions?
hasty kernel
Partially, partially just because consumers are not a monolithic entity and lack the organisation to push for good changes
And its often more profitable to divide and conquer while doing bad things, than just doing good things
But yes, thats why capitalism sucks and in particular hurts the arts
wide ember
consumers sure are diverse, though common interests should still exist in a group
or even without the group
wide ember
that’s when strategic cooperation should emerge, no?
hasty kernel
In theory, but if the entire population is the target demographic, as they are for Disney or equivalent MegaCorps
There is a good chance the split is pretty close to 50/50
wide ember
thanks for that info Cale, I'll start the download
tardy ore
I'm reading the backlog and it feels like I've accidentally slipped into that weird fairy demon hell from the later Artemis books.
@wide ember On that note, my favorite Disney movie of all time was the one they strategically and quietly murdered: Treasure Planet.
https://youtu.be/b9sycdSkngA TL;DW: We were robbed, Disney maybe probably killed one of its finest movies just to shoo 2D animation out the door.
ivory nacelle
treasure planet and atlantis the lost empire are probably my fave disney movies and they're just .. forgotten
so sad ;A;
tardy ore
Yes
And the video makes a fairly compelling argument that it was deliberate.
Lmao, what the hell is this trailer?
I'm so confused. They didn't even get the size of the fairy city right.
There was so much comedy in the fact that absolutely nothing was Butler sized.
raven harbor
I'm okay with a chunk of it in theory but like, wow this is Not Great
About the only thing that seems decent is the casting for Artemis's father
hasty kernel
I do have to say, I do miss 2d Animation
Dont get me wrong, a lot of the 3d Animated Movies are very good
But there is just a certain charm to the old stuff
toxic steppe
Yeah I wish they didn't decide to do any AF movies
raven harbor
(As an aside, I'm okay with the general concept of Dench playing Root and doing the whole gender swap thing, but only if there were doing something with it to justify taking that aspect away from Holly's story, which clearly they aren't)
hasty kernel
Then again I also miss Soviet-era Russian animation
hasty kernel
Or hell, Soviet-era Russian media in general
There was a lot of surprisingly good stuff amongst it
hasty kernel
Hell, Id argue russian Sherlock Holmes is the best Live Action adaptation of Sherlock Holmes
sudden torrent
Man the puppet, claymation and psychedelic stuff from soviet era animation was my childhood
hasty kernel
Do you know the russian Treasure Island, or Adventures of Captain Vrungel?
ivory nacelle
awww Klaus was wonderful. I loved it so much
sudden torrent
Of course! I watched it serveral times actually.
hasty kernel
I love them both
toxic steppe
My favorite animated film will always be The Iron Giant
hasty kernel
I wish we got more stuff like it nowadays
Including the inconsistent animation full of errors
tardy ore
@toxic steppe An Artemis Fowl movie that didn't change him into a typical hero character would have been fine.
toxic steppe
It would have but that's not the case.
hasty kernel
My favourite would probably be the first 5-10 minutes of Up
toxic steppe
The first book is so strong too
tardy ore
Most of the other changes are forgivable. It's the "he isn't REALLY a bad kid" part that's kind of not.
sudden torrent
Man the inconsistent animation full of errors was part that made it magical and actually take in every detail while I could.
wide ember
old animations... the Halved World in that tv show for kids still haunts me
tardy ore
They did have the time stop, I wonder if they really did cut out the blue rinse.
hasty kernel
Yeah
tardy ore
I legit have to wonder
hasty kernel
Like that one scene early on in Treasure Island
Where the table changes on every shot
tardy ore
Is Colfer's statement about approving of the changes sincere, or is he trying to play nice with Disney?
sudden torrent
The magical table™️
hasty kernel
Or the surreal humour of it
wide ember
it was intentional or not? because there was this french movie where things were intentionally inconsistent
tardy ore
On the other subject - Iron Giant was certainly deserving of its reputation.
hasty kernel
I mean given how much it changes and how carefully its drawn
Its probably deliberate
But its still funny
velvet fjord
"let's make artemis fowl and remove every character trait that made him interesting"
wide ember
and apparently a whole era learned to use the inconsistencies to create that feel
I've never watched Treasure Planet, though I miss Atlantis (typo'd Planet as Island, that was a different cult classic)
hasty kernel
But yeah soviet animation was very funny, and had pretty good music too
tardy ore
Eoin Colfer claims to support the backstory alterations. But I'm not sure how far to trust that, because he probably got a boatload of money.
hasty kernel
And it was extremely unique in how it looked
tardy ore
I never got to watch Treasure Island either
Treasure Planet is the one I did grow up with
That movie was a masterpiece.
sudden torrent
Though man I am unsure what I would consider my all time favourite.
I could say though since I am still sucker for old animations I would say something like "Kitten named Bark" or "Crocodile Gena & Cheburuska", considering probably I kind of remember them the most and proper.
tardy ore
Honestly, instead of all this live action nonsense
Disney should have brought Treasure Planet 2 back
hasty kernel
Probably Kapitan Vrungel for me
tardy ore
Exactly how it was supposed to be before it was canned.
hasty kernel
Or Soviet Treasure Island
Theyre the main ones I watched and I watched them a lot of times
tardy ore
@wide ember Do you remember the Atlantis "sequel"?
hasty kernel
The one that was just recycled from the cancelled show?
tardy ore
Yup!
sudden torrent
They keep on reairing on this one channel here so kind of same lol. Same goes for animated Doctor Aybolit. Or Doctor Ouchhurts, if we to say in literal translated version.
wide ember
have anyone here watched the Haier anime?
wide ember
Haier was this home appliances company that decided to invest in anime at one point
tardy ore
Haier?
wide ember
they usually make fridges, washing machines and the like
tardy ore
Oh, weird Chinese thing here
sudden torrent
Every time I rewatch the more I remembered how much I would hate to be poisoned by a drink in my childhood.
wide ember
Doctor Aybolit? this looks like nightmares well executed
tardy ore
Can't say I've ever heard of any of these old Russian titles
hasty kernel
Not surprising
They never really got outside of russia
The Sherlock Holmes live action series is the only one you might have heard
wide ember
link us the subs
hasty kernel
Because the actor became an honorary MBE for his portrayal of Sherlock Homes
wide ember
wait, but wasn't PMMM's witch scenes inspired by russian animation or something?
sudden torrent
Tbh not surprised, the Soviet era animation never really gotten outside of slavic countries much. Though thankfully I know one channel that has some cartoons stored with the subtitles on.
hasty kernel
I mean Im sure individual people know of it
But I mean it never got into the public conscious
wide ember
because they might got translated to japanese or chinese or something
(also is it okay if I mention la Planète sauvage here?)
sudden torrent
Yeah , like only select group of people know it by conversations or having knowledge of Russian since these kind of never were released in different language. Same honestly can be said about the same era movies, they were great but only handful of people heard of them.
tardy ore
@hasty kernel I have like... next to no awareness of that kinda stuff either
I live under a rock
hasty kernel
Tbh its still not that known
tardy ore
@wide ember Why would it not be okay?
hasty kernel
But Sherloc Holmes Enthusiasts might be aware
wide ember
...guys? there's a dedicated russian animation translation project on bilibili, though into chinese
sudden torrent
Really? Never have heard of it before.
hasty kernel
Me neither
wide ember
there is a american disk of russian animation anthology called Masters of Russian Animation
sudden torrent
But then again lately I kind of zoned out from news noawadays so no wonder it's my first time hearing.
wide ember
purchasable on amazon
can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLn5Aci4kkiv5XMc6I4iNQ5kWfA-JcVE1A
hasty kernel
Hm
Looking over the list I recognise some, but dont recognise others
Yezhik v Tumane is one I do know
tardy ore
Hello? I was asking something...
I looked up that movie, doesn't seem like there's anything objectionable in it
wide ember
you clearly did not get the joke, according to the hitchhiker's galaxy, the rudest word in the universe is ______
planete sauvage is made in that country
tardy ore
Oh
wide ember
belgium
hasty kernel
Interesting
tardy ore
That is one oblique way to get to a Hitchhiker's Guide joke
See, I didn't know it was made there.
Damn.
hasty kernel
Turns out there were soviet-japanese collaborations in animation
So that might be how the influence spread
Then again I was also shocked to find out that several famous german cartoons were actually anime commissioned by germany but produced in japan
wide ember
belgium animations are weird, though not enough were made