#off-topic-discussion

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knotty sable
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@hasty kernel I think when I look at my designs, I just think that they feel generic and don't fit exactly with my story goals. Not that I've completed writing many stories.

hasty kernel
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Mmh

knotty sable
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@slow plover accountability helps a lot! did some mutual comic-creation with some friends and we managed to get some stuff drawn

hasty kernel
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Id try altering them to fit then

slow plover
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I've learned to just skip world-building completely and kinda "create as it's needed"

hasty kernel
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Designs aren't ever final

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I could never do that, world building is fun

slow plover
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oh, for sure, but it's for nothing if it never gets shown

hasty kernel
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And it's from that that the story idea arises

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That's why I keep completed world's for future use

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One video game I really want to make uses a world I made a year or two ago, that went through some revisions

wide ember
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I feel like the older I get, the less punk my worlds are?

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like, less cyberpunk or solarpunk

hasty kernel
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Ah yes, the classic issue of "punks that got old"

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I mean, the main one I wanna make is still cyberpunk, I like Cyberpunk

wide ember
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I just don't have enough punkness in myself to pour into my works anymore

hasty kernel
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But the other one is basically 1920s mafia with technomagic

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I.e. magic that is essentially coding

wide ember
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punk is rebellion against a dystopia

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even if a world is sci fi, it does not auto making it cyberpunk

hasty kernel
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I may or may not have chosen a mafia setting for the EXEcutor pun

wide ember
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mafia like the werewolf game?

hasty kernel
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Cyberpunk doesn't inherently have to be a rebellion, but it has certain elements that make it distinct

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No as in 1920s mafia aesthetic and themes

wide ember
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not necessarily rebellion as in revolution or anti-gouvernment behaviours

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but like, the mood is "the world is oppressive, and I'm going to do more than just survive in it"

hasty kernel
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See I don't think a cyberpunk world has to be oppressive

wide ember
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though considering neuromancer, maybe I'm wrong

hasty kernel
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At least

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No more than ours

wide ember
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"The punk subculture includes a diverse array of ideologies, fashion, and other forms of expression, visual art, dance, literature and film. It is largely characterised by anti-establishment views, the promotion of individual freedom"

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...lion king suddenly looks punk

slow plover
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it could also be that cyberpunk in general is getting less popular because the whole dystopia thing is looking kinda weak compared to real life (according to most people I know)

hasty kernel
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Anyway it's really late and I should sleep

wide ember
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rest well

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I wish utopia literature could become more common again

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like Herland or the like

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the impossible idealist civilization ruined by the arrival of the protagonists

slow plover
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I think that's more of a "don't do that. Don't give me hope." sort of thing

wide ember
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maybe

slow plover
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then again, utopia lit is somewhat common on r/HFY

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so 🤷‍♀️

wide ember
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one man's utopia could easily be another's dystopia

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and pokemon world is pretty utopic, it's also very popular

slow plover
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it's also ancient relatively

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it's as old as me wow I'm old

wide ember
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you are over a thousand??

slow plover
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I mean, 26 years ago is pretty old, story world wise

wide ember
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wait did you mean pokemon or herland or utopian literature

slow plover
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pokemon world

wide ember
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oh

slow plover
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I was refuting it as a good example by noting its age

wide ember
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26 years is nothing though, it's very young

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fiction has the potential of eternity

slow plover
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it's not a good example of recently-made utopic world-building

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fiction has two age standards

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there's the "it's a classic" age standard, which is usually rated in the hundreds of years

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and then there's the "it's a meme" age standard, which is rated in months at best

wide ember
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The Good Place then

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of course, only applicable to selected neighbourhoods

slow plover
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that's fair

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I've only ever seen that one on an airplane that I didn't have headphones for

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so idk much about it

grand lichen
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Continuing the conversation from hades-gameplay-

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To say "procgen is the spirit of roguelikes" is just as broad and unapplicable as saying "mastery through replayability" is

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I would even go as far as to say that permadeath is more core to what a roguelike is than procgen is

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Procgen is a means to an end

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It forces you to learn and engage with the mechanics instead of just learning the levels

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If a game has procedurally generated levels, but not any kind of permadeath that forces you to go back to those levels over and over again, then it's not really occupying the same genre space as a roguelike

wide ember
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Torchlight has no permadeath I think?

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My bad, torchlight is dungeon crawl but not roguelike

serene tulip
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yeah, Risk of Rain 2 doesn't have much in the way of procedural generation and its definitely a roguelike

amber grail
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i cant interact with it, its just stays here chillin, but i dont like it

wise wolf
amber grail
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My god

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y r a life saver

wise wolf
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Just googled "windows 10 refresh icon bottom right" 😅

amber grail
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yeah, im not native, so i cant google well in english

wise wolf
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Me neither hah. Just pick some keywords really.

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Sometimes it's a matter of luck honestly

scarlet chasm
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Completely jumping topic. To those who enjoy ASMR, and have a love for Hades and/or Greek Mythos, this video is a godsend.
It the entire "The Odyssey" by Homer. This is super relaxing, and has helped me sleep countless times. And as I've only read the Illiad and Odyssey in Finnish, it was interesting to listen to them in English.

https://youtu.be/XVXXx8npn4U

Here's to those of you who really enjoyed the Odyssey series. Follow Odysseus from the sack of Troy through Hades and back, to return to Penelope and Telemacus in his kingdom in Ithaca. I like the idea of really long videos that you can watch over multiple nights, so if that'...

▶ Play video
bitter surge
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Well, Neither the Iliad and the Odyssey are originally in English or Finnish, both are in Ancient Greek

scarlet chasm
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If I could read or speak Ancient Greek, I'd be on it. Though there was a post on Reddit that apparently Finnish and Ancient Greek have the same sort of grammar and word structure.

wise wolf
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👀 I'm quite skeptical of that because Ancient Greek is an Indo-European language and Finnish is Uralic

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It looks like Finnish took a large amount of Greek vocab

scarlet chasm
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Which is surprising, as Finnish is an Uralic or, well- "Suomalais-Ugrilainen" language. There should not be a connection between the two. Finland borrows from the Germanic languages like Sweden and English, Slavic languages like Russian.

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Though it is good to note, Finnish words in that Reddit post are a bit misstranlated and have "Puhekieli" words in there. Like a commentor posted, "Mä oon" is a spoken phrase, and not grammatically correct. The proper version would be "Minä Olen."

wise wolf
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They're far apart too. It's surprising there is a connection

scarlet chasm
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Most likely a shere coincidence. Reason being that it so happens to be that Swedish, Norwegian and most Germanic languages also fall under the Indo-European language flag, from which Finland borrowed.

bitter surge
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I have a hypothesis that the Finnish word for "Thank you", "Kiitos", comes from Greek Κυδος, where English gets the word "Kudos" from

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Yes, I have a bachelor's in Linguistics. Why do you ask? 😛

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And yes, Finnish is Uralic and Greek is Indo-European. I don't think there's a connection either. So I agree with @scarlet chasm

scarlet chasm
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That is very likely, as the neighboring words for "Thank you" are nowhere near "Kiitos." Spasiba in Russian, Tack in Norwegian/Swedish/Danish-

bitter surge
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"Takk"/"Tack" is probably the Norse equivalent of English "Thank" and German "Danke"

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The language I see that's extremely close to Finnish is Estonian. I think they're related.

elder merlin
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The danish word for "Thanks" is "Tak"

scarlet chasm
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Finnish and Estonian are related. Same language family

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Though they sound and look the same, a Finnish person can barely understand an Estonian.

autumn pasture
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i missed my kitten so much when i was gone owo she's such a baby

serene tulip
amber arch
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can I ask/bother the artist of supergaint for learning how they've development such an amazing art

wise wolf
amber arch
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aight

wise wolf
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I believe the first Q&A was actually the art team

amber arch
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can I ask/bother the artist for tips and critique on my art?

faint panther
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You can try asking, but I bet they're pretty busy.

blissful charm
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i don't imagine the artists would give out free tips and critique

bitter surge
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Maybe the would at a convention…

wide ember
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today's free game at epic was talos principle

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looks like epic is cycling though the top rated triple Is

autumn pasture
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oh no, i think i missed yesterday's while i was traveling :((

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what was it?

wide ember
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yesterday's was shadow tactics: blade of the shogun

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and before that, hyper light drifter

serene tulip
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Talos Principle is a pretty great game

autumn pasture
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okay, at least it wasn't something on my wishlist :/

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lmao i already bought (but haven't played) the talos principle

dim wedge
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so I'm learning irish and I accidentally said 'she drinks an apple'

tawdry wave
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sick

humble willow
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It's incredibly quiet in here, I see.

serene tulip
faint panther
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Hey, anyone here knows about computer issues?

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Like, is anyone a technician or can give some solid advice about two issues I have with my computer, please?

wise wolf
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You might have better chance if you straight up explain what is wrong.

faint panther
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You're right, maybe someone else encountered the same issue and managed to fix it. Okay then.

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So, funny story. I've got another problem with my computer now that also cannot seem to be able to resolve at all now. It's infinite restarting. Even when I am shutting it down from the windows icon. I'll have to press the power button and hold it down in order to shut my computer completely now. Thanks to some idiots from the electricity company that came here for a checkup in the morning, my computer and my sister's computer have been damaged / afflicted by CMOs bug.
My sister's issue with 9c returned to her computer, too....so, yup, lucky us.
Either we try to manually plug out/install CMOs battery, at least for my Sister's computer to fix it, or wait for another electrical power surge.

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Second issue is WAY harder than this though, for months now, when I am playing heavy intense/power hungry games, my computer shuts off/restarts, and sometimes does that with the fans spinning too loud, no idea if it's the aftermarket cooler on cpu or gpu's or psu's. Some games like Hades and other similar to that, also Dark Souls II, I can play them fine with no problems for hours. If I play games like Hellblade, AC Origins, Tekken 7, my computer does that.

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I changed PSU with a new one to make sure it wasn't Power Supply issue, turns out, it isn't power supply, so, some people told me my gpu is failing, but I don't see/notice any artifacts or messed up graphics, my wild idea is it might need change of paste on the gpu, because this started around summer, July-August, after playing AC Origins for hours everyday, and my case was burning hot.

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That's all, if anyone is kind enough to give me some help or advice or something, I'll be more than indebted.

wise wolf
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The latter definitely sounds like some kind of overheating issue.

faint panther
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I know, right? I changed it paste in the lab like 2 weeks ago when I took it there, and earlier again on the lab 3 months ago.

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The issue still persists, and I am scared to death it might be my gpu failing.

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But it can still play games with no errors or issues, just not the super intensive ones anymore.

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Like, it can play them, but most of the times it will shut down/restart.

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Kernel-Power error 41 = computer shut down unexpectedly, tried any solution, nothing, I can confirm it's not software, which makes me even more afraid.

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So, either my gpu is dying or is overheating.

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Changed paste to CPU

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Not gpu.

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Never changed gpu.

wise wolf
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Have you checked the temperatures with something? Idk if Win can do it out of the box but there's software which can display the temperatures from the sensors.

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Might give you a clue

faint panther
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I am using Speccy, and temps look fine to me.

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GPU spikes around 65-68 C

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Which is okay for GTX 970 Evga 4gb edition.

wise wolf
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having been frying my laptop at 98°C at some point yeah that's fine

faint panther
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I heard if GPU goes above 90c it usually shuts down the computer but I don't know anymore.

wise wolf
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Well that's weird. Even if the sensors were broken you'd have to have temperature spikes somewhere.

faint panther
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Maybe it gets hot super fast at a specific moment and that's why it shuts down.

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Not gonna lie, we had so much heat on summertime this year on Greece.

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The world is going to worst in summer.

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Poles changing, global warming and all that.

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The computer was burning hotter and brighter than the Egyptean sands in AC Origins...

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I could even fry eggs for example.

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  • didn't do that.
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So, I assume my GPU was like "oof, man" and just started yeeting out.

wise wolf
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Welp, I'm afraid I'm not much of help here really, sorry.

faint panther
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No, it is fine.

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Thank you, for talking with me.

wide ember
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Happy new year’s eve!

elfin umbra
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me in less than 5 hours

autumn pasture
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awww, cute :0

serene tulip
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She's Beautiful D:

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I would die for that cat

serene tulip
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I wish I had a pet

autumn pasture
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i kinda ended up with her but she's really sweet ;w;

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i'm glad i have her

serene tulip
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my housemate is allergic

autumn pasture
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oh no, that's a tough one :(

north hamlet
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allergic to all pets?

serene tulip
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just hairy ones

north hamlet
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how about birds or reptiles?

autumn pasture
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you could get a big fancy frog 🤔

serene tulip
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Birds are really loud as much as I love them

autumn pasture
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or a snake

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snakes are cool

serene tulip
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Reptiles I fear are not lovey enough

north hamlet
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fish?

autumn pasture
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that's fair

north hamlet
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i guess you have to get a new roommate before a new pet

brittle stag
wide ember
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since it’s the last (plus minus up to one day) day of 2019, time to do 2019 recollections and 2020 resolutions

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  1. work hard, play hard, rest well
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  1. talk to more people, I’m not even close to the Dunbar number
serene tulip
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dunbar number?

upbeat scroll
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the dunbar number isnt a goal...

wide ember
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A proposal that each human can comfortably have 150 individuals in their social pool

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It isn’t a goal when it was proposed

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I’m trying to set it as one because yolo

wide ember
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...why are potatoes being mesured by shoestring as unit

serene tulip
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Shoestring has been an official measurement unit for a while now

wide ember
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I’ve just noticed today, maybe it’s because I mostly eat thick potato fries so far

faint panther
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С новым годом!

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Shoestring fries are awesome.

autumn pasture
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shoestring fries are the best kind, for sure

wide ember
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recipes ask for Yukon gold but I have Sofia potatoes instead

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will try once home or tomorrow

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winter is just the prefect season for fries

wide ember
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(Tokyo treat has a promotion code: mouse that ends tonight and it includes possible Pokémon items and Japanese Starbucks tumbler or mug)

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(Also that $15 megami no ruby pocky)

elfin umbra
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HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYPONY

faint panther
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"How to activate everyone's fight-flight-response in one easy sentence."

elfin umbra
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my power

tropic garden
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i thought this was a totally normal message until i read schpoon's response and i regret reading it again

autumn pasture
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happy new year to you too, belgo

elfin umbra
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here's to a dusalicious new decade with you folks,

tropic garden
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quit while you're ahead

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raise a toast to another year of belgo profile pics 🥂

faint panther
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Can't wait to see how you defil--I mean, what you do with Demeter.

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Yeah, that's it.

ornate vault
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happy new year everyone! 🎆 shadesmile gilmanlove

tardy anchor
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HAVE A DUSALICIOIS DECADE BELGO!!!!! dusaHeart

wise wolf
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Happy new year everybody! 😁

faint panther
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4 Chamber Epic Maimed Strike on this Deadly Strike build. The next 4 chambers are gonna suuuuuck.

ionic viper
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happy new year from the uk!

hasty kernel
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Happy new year to everyone

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Its a bit late, and I shouldve thought of it sooner, but as they say

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Hindsight is 2020

analog spear
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Well I guess your jokes decade over time

faint panther
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here's to yet another year in hellworld

wide ember
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bamboo sprout is so delicious, hope my digestive system will be able to handle it

hasty kernel
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Oh I absolutely love Bamboo shoots

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Unfortunately all takeaway closeby is a bit stingy on them

serene tulip
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I forgot tonight was NYE

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and now I have no food

hasty kernel
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Oh no 😦

wide ember
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some restaurants still open on nye

serene tulip
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I got some thai food

somber ferry
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i made...ravioli...

ionic viper
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i ate my own body weight in ham sandwiches, random assorted party food, and homemade corned beef pie, as is tradition in my family

autumn pasture
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i'm so sorry, proxy bot

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i had shrimp and a delicious sauce of horseraddish and tomato that is customary to enjoy with shrimp

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please forgive my course language

serene tulip
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keep your language above 400 grit plz

hasty kernel
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I had Pieroggi and Olivier salad

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As is tradition

autumn pasture
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well, i am going to bed, so an early new year to everyone 🥂

faint panther
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I made a big jar of pico de gallo that's going to a friend's NYE party. I am working a double tomorrow, so I will not be partying tonight.

tardy anchor
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ahhh good luck!!!!

faint panther
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🇫

tardy anchor
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happy newp year!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙌 🎊

wide ember
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fireworks were brief but pretty

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happy new year all!!

somber ferry
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happy new year!!!!

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also thanks @faint panther because now i want pico de gallo real bad fhkdfjdkfh

faint panther
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The entire quart of pico was consumed. 👍

north hamlet
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am talking with a friend about this bushfire season

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we just realised it looks a lot like mordor and now we match with new zealand's middle earth

brave plume
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egg

silver maple
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y’all I finally have 2020 vision

uncut sigil
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Dysefs I have to go

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Nopr

fleet sable
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happy new year everyone OEPinkHeart

scarlet chasm
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Hyvää uutta vuotta! Happy New Year!

serene tulip
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Ugh, it's 2020

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Who's dumb idea was this?

lyric cradle
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MINE

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no i mean ours sorry happy 2020 yall

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@uncut sigil they had a gen channel this whole time lmao was too drunk to notice yesterday

vocal brook
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Y'all gotta watch the movie Om Shanti Om on Netflix

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It is WILD

silver maple
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I read Bollywood extra and was immediately on board

vocal brook
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It goes from cheesy to good to great

lyric cradle
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whats it about?

trail kelp
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did you guys get any rogue lites during the steam sale?

lament steppe
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om shanti om is great

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I remember singing the song with my entire class

vocal brook
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"Reincarnated 30 years after being killed in a suspicious on-set fire, a small-time actor is determined to punish the person who ignited the blaze."

lyric cradle
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sounds dank will watch

north hamlet
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Oh that's the one my friend from school was obsessed with

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We ended up doing a dance thing from it for a PE class

vocal brook
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I only saw half of it

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But what I saw was AMAZING

north hamlet
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I only saw that one dance scene a billion times

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It was a pretty decent sequence

upbeat scroll
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i have school tomorow :(

serene tulip
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Did you do your homework?

upbeat scroll
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tomorrow is the first day of school

serene tulip
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It has been not unknown to me to have between-semester homework

wise wolf
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Oh noes. Good luck. Have fun if possible.

copper lark
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i’m late but happy new year everyone 🥺🥺

wise wolf
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Year's still new enough, happy new year to you too!

upbeat scroll
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year is stale now

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i wanna new one

lyric cradle
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2020 fresh af what u mean

nova patio
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The Kid or Red in Smash when?

serene tulip
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You could make 'em for Rivals of Aether Workshop

tawny cobalt
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pull back the

serene tulip
blissful charm
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?

serene tulip
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its pretty

faint panther
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Hey, @sly sigil , saw you needed to realign your chakras, and I think this video might help do the trick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV-E6NoK2L8

wide ember
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(I took a look and now my chakras are going feral, gotta sleep it off)

fallen charm
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duelyst devs really liked to talk about listening to the community and all that stuff but really didnt, the choices they made with their game and how the packs n stuff were handled was just plain bad

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tbh its quite a while ago

strange terrace
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What were they like?

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The packs I mean

cold kiln
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I often think of what happened to that game. It had so much potential

fallen charm
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omg

strange terrace
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lol

fallen charm
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I stopped playing when the packs were changed to be less-than-great so cant really remember

rose slate
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At the risk of sounding a bit condescending, you have no idea how much worse they were

fallen charm
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I also built a discord bot for them that posted images of the card, its stats/abilities and what the keywords in those were

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being a poor af dude I asked if they could host it or anything, 2/3 of them said yes for sure and then just never got back/ignored me constantly

rose slate
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There were a lot more screw ups that were hidden from the community

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Like the data leak

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And people literally cheating to get top spots on the ladder

fallen charm
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tbh, someone should buy em out/grab the game and just like, change some stuff on it and voila

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cause its a great game if you just look at the game

strange terrace
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What makes it great

fallen charm
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IMO the art style, the factions and cards and the grid system

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like it had a fairly good amount of cards and factions

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albeit some were broken but thats just cause they didnt balance for crap, n power creeped

grizzled anchor
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hah that's why everyone should play hearthstone because it totally doesn't cost a fortune to play at all GWbratWhy

rose slate
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They took out a lot of the features that made it unique though

fallen charm
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Duelyst is one of the few card games where I had lots of different decks and stuff

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and yeah towards the end

rose slate
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Like 2 draw, directional abilities

fallen charm
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but like, idk early access or a few months prior to the first expansion, it was really good at one period of time

rose slate
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Yeah it had some really good traction

fallen charm
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OH

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wasnt there some tournament that was awful

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league did a better job doing a tournament and it was literally just run by 1 guy on his weekend lmao XD

rose slate
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There were many you really need to be more specific

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Lol

fallen charm
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dunno

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I remember there being a crappy tournament

strange terrace
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Grid system?

rose slate
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The grandmaster tournament was a letdown

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Mechs won

fallen charm
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yeah its played on like an 8x8 grid

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like chess

rose slate
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I think it was 5x9

fallen charm
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not sure was just giving an example

rose slate
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Yeah ik

faint panther
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i'd recommend looking up a vid from the early days

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it was a fun game

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devolved real quickly tho

fallen charm
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All I remember is I enjoyed the game before it went to crap and I made a discord bot for them and they promised they'd help host it and stuff since the community really seemed to like it tbh

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think I have some gameplay footage somewhere

rose slate
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I think this is the first time im learning why you left

fallen charm
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probs

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I was just like, w/e

rose slate
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You really lashed out at everyone that asked

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Maybe lashed out is too strong

fallen charm
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Yeah good old days ;-;

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life n family stuff was oof back then

rose slate
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Thats fair

fallen charm
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shame it died the way it did

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reminds me of that game

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skyforge

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super awesome on release, bit behind the korean version but that happens.... and then the publisher really started adding their own crap, reworked some systems so it was grindy

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literally reset everyones account like 6 months after it had launched and just gave out some skill points and a free class or something

rose slate
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Lol

fallen charm
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it became p2w

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like they give money for winning the monthly pvp battles

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so u spend like 1k to boost ur character and level as much as you can and then ya win like 500

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;-; greed just ruins so many games

rose slate
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Yep

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Never let marketing people run a project

strange terrace
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Interesting

grizzled anchor
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if artifact devs try to redeem themselves like no man sky devs the game wouldn't be in such a tragic state such as now

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who would have though people would not like to pay for a card game then continue being forced to pay for in-game packs

fallen charm
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biggest game comeback story IMO

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FFXIV

grizzled anchor
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i don't have any recollection of that game

strange terrace
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Game is great

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It was trash but they essentially rereleased it

fallen charm
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went from trash to like, 2nd most played mmorpg, only 2nd to wow

cold kiln
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Which is actually not that great of a feat

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I think you need to be zombie with half brain blown away to design MMO worse than 99% of what is on market

fallen charm
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:T

cold kiln
#

In fact even the recollection of what is MMO supposed to be, and impression of what MMO is in new generations is completely skewed

fallen charm
#

dont think its easy

cold kiln
#

Well nothing is easy.

fallen charm
#

I think it's pretty insane what they did

cold kiln
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Ok, what makes it so special ?

fallen charm
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housing, raids/8man dungeons/dungeon systems, mechanics in fights, the flying on chocobos, the public event system

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its all polished insanely well

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they ended up dropping PS3 support the other year because they wanted to improve the game more but couldnt because of technical limitations

cold kiln
#

That is exactly problem with today game industry. It functions on premise: You know that great game that made lot of money last year? Well we will make the same just bbigget, better and more polished.

fallen charm
#

that hardly ever happens

cold kiln
#

Result: 16 years of failed WoW clones

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We literally didnt have good MMO for 16 years. Can you imagine that

fallen charm
#

hardly any devs just make a bigger better and polished version of a game

cold kiln
#

@fallen charm exactly

fallen charm
#

there are tons of good MMORPGs out there though

cold kiln
#

Yea ? Ok I like to be amused 😄

fallen charm
#

GW2, SWTOR, WOW, FFXIV, BDO

cold kiln
#

Are you asian or do you like asian games, culture ?

fallen charm
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i'm not asain, and I just like good games

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SWTOR is western, BDO is korean(?), FFXIV is Japa and WOW is western

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pretty spread out

cold kiln
#

Koreans and Chinese kind of hijacked the MMO in last 10 years

fallen charm
#

it's pretty amazing to go from an awful game to 2nd best in the genre

cold kiln
#

SWTOR is one of last western MMOs launched wopping 12 yerars ago

fallen charm
#

does it matter where its from?

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i'm saying its an amazing feat

cold kiln
#

Can you imagine that ? 12 years ago since we had major western MMO released

fallen charm
#

doesnt matter who did it

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MMORPGs just arent as popular here

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western devs have better things to make

cold kiln
#

Does not matter if you like playing Lollis, girls in heavy armor and high heels, gender locked classes

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Should I go on

fallen charm
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I don't think you really understand

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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or I don't understand what you're trying to explain

strange terrace
#

I think this conversation has sorta devolved so

cold kiln
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Yea. I dont think you do.
WoW kind of changed MMOs to this quest hub based, group dungeon, THEMEPARK games

fallen charm
#

imo going from a awful-tier game to 2nd best, is an insane accomplishment

cold kiln
#

I am not saying FFXI is bad

fallen charm
#

you mean mmorpg? not mmo

cold kiln
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In fact its probably second best MMO made in last 10 years

fallen charm
#

...

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fortnite is an mmo, did u see how popular that got

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i think you're a bit confused genre wise

cold kiln
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I am saying that MMORPG genre is sad, died corpse of itself. I am major fan of the genre. And there is not day that i think how bad it failed

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Ok. What is Ultima online ?

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mmorpg ? mmo ? Something else ?

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I am writing mmo, instead of full mmorpg just to make it shorter to type

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But anyway FFXII good game, no doubt about it. State of MMORPGs today, horrible

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Thats what i mean

hasty kernel
#

Oh, people were talking about Duelyst

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Good game, horribly managed, and eventually they just dropped it to work on Godfall

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Which they inexplicably got support from gearbox and sony for

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It's even a PS5 launch title

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And I'm just confused how, given that the studio is anything but qualified

faint panther
#

loot driven third person arpg
is that a joke??

hasty kernel
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Nope

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They even called it a "looter-slasher"

faint panther
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love how they don't even mention duelyst on the about us page of their website

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or anywhere else on that website apparently

hasty kernel
#

I mean the background is from Duelyst, but otherwise, yeah

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Its an abandoned game that they mismanaged to its death

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Not exactly something you wanna put on your website

faint panther
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it was a long-form project with great art and interesting mechanics

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i think you should display your failures

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but that's just me

hasty kernel
#

You should, but it would give people pause given that Godfall appears to be a "games as a service" style game

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So they just bury any mentions of it

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They have claimed that they might return to Duelyst eventually, but I find the odds of that to be miniscule

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Which is a shame, it was a very good game, until they started messing up

faint panther
#

yeah, in that instance brand recognition might be a very harmful thing

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too bad about duelyst, truly the most innovative ccg to come out in recent years

#

faeria could be mentioned as well but does it deserve it?

hasty kernel
#

I mean Faeria is well designed

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I dont enjoy it personally, its too slow for my taste

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But its neat

faint panther
#

same, i like the concept but playing it is a chore

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also i got scammed and that didn't feel great

hasty kernel
#

Ive kind of been bouncing between card games since

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Now Im just waiting for Legends of Runeterra

faint panther
#

i stuck with hearthstone for far too long

hasty kernel
#

Honestly, HS gets a worse rep than it deserves

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Its fine

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Not amazing by any means, but fine

faint panther
#

it's alright but it shouldn't be in such a mediocre state at this point in its lifecycle

#

and the price of playing that game is dreadful

hasty kernel
#

Yeah the price is unfortunate

faint panther
#

but yeah that kinda burned me out of cardgames tbqh

hasty kernel
#

Im also annoyed with the "class identity" nonsense they brought up a while back

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Which basically said "rogue can only ever be tempo rogue, but Warrior can play all archetypes"

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And even then they didnt follow their own outlined class identities, as Warrior got several things that were supposed to be weaknesses

faint panther
#

yeah, every class can do most anything nowadays and it's a little dumb???

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and every single expansion you face three decks on ladder for six months straight

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fun stuff

hasty kernel
#

But yeah, LoR was hella fun in the preview weeks

faint panther
#

seemed like it yeah

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i've seen some gameplay here and there, not really interested but it seems like it could easily find its place next to hs at the top of the online ccg foodchain

lament steppe
#

if I get into LoR after release I might drop hs entirely

faint panther
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i mean

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why are you still playing hs

lament steppe
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bc I'm f2p and grind single-player content

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I do ladder for quest gold and that's it

faint panther
#

they haven't released good sp content since loe

lament steppe
#

as an f2p with no decks? they didn't release any good sp content until kobolds

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and it looks like they're iterating away from the model soon

faint panther
#

eh, their samey, endless deckbuilders aren't good imo

lament steppe
#

hs has always been a flavor game for me

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actual gameplay is just a necessary evil

wise wolf
#

I used to play HS but honestly, getting stuff as f2p is just asking for addiction and then you feel anxious about not having time completing quests, not to mention that then you play the game only to complete the quests and that's it.
And I wouldn't even consider paying for it tbh because it's a giant moneysink. Like if it had a reasonably priced subscription in order to play, it would be worth considering. But the packs are ridiculously overpriced when compared to full costs of normal games.

lament steppe
#

which is why the recent single player content is so nice, it asks nothing of your resources except some initial gold grinding to unlock it, then you get a nice varied game every time

faint panther
#

oh yeah, as a f2p, dropping it for like two weeks allowed me to remove it from my life entirely

#

incredible how games as a service f you up

hasty kernel
#

LoRs f2p model seems decent, but Im mostly looking forward to the gameplay

#

I actually really like the champion system

#

Its very flavourful and fun

faint panther
#

certainly better than artifact's

#

rip pepehands

hasty kernel
#

Ah, Artifact

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The most spectacular failure yet

#

Honestly it was easy to predict that it would fail, but even then I underestimated how fast

faint panther
#

yeah, too bad it crashed that way

#

frankly a great card game

#

here's hoping the long haul actually goes somewhere

hasty kernel
#

I doubt it

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Even on the offchance that it does, it will likely be quite different

#

Honestly, Im a bit glad that it crashed

#

It provides a cautionary tale for future card game devs

#

Dont be greedy, or your game might flame out in a week

faint panther
#

legit far less greedy than most ccgs but go off ig

hasty kernel
#

Not really, before it crashed the cost of a full set was 350$ or so

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Which is a bit more than HS

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Except unlike HS, all that cost was in the actually good cards

faint panther
#

yeah that's mostly bc the playerbase was tiny and people were tryna make a quick buck

hasty kernel
#

Nah, its just simple mathematics

#

Noone is gonna sell at a loss

faint panther
#

the system was certainly not perfect but it was functional

hasty kernel
#

Functionally awful

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350$ was the norm, thats where the price should stabilize

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Because the people selling on the market dont want to lose out on money

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So the cost of the set on the market had to be the average cost of the packs you need to have the full set, multiplied with 1.15

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And without mandatory paid drafting, there was no way to have supply exceed demand like it does on MODO

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Artifacts model was basically MTGs model but worse, and for all of HSs fault, one of the main things people liked about it is that its cheaper than MTG

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Or basically any paper card game

faint panther
#

i mean yh a trade rework would have been ncessary down the line

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i didn't care much for that aspect tbh, weaker cards still worked and i'm more of a drafter anyway

hasty kernel
#

They had no plans for that

#

Allowing players to trade meant that they would lose out on that sweet 15% cut on every transaction

faint panther
#

with sufficient backlash they'd have had to do it but instead the game instantly died

hasty kernel
#

True, perhaps

#

I mean, they didnt even plan to have free phantom drafts

#

That already required backlash

#

It was just overwhelmingly greedy in all aspects, designed to make as much money as possible

#

My guess is they figured they had enough goodwill for people to overlook it (much like their lootboxes get overlooked a lot, despite being the worst ones, or how the fact that they popularized them gets overlooked)

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But they miscalculated

faint panther
#

which is extremely sad imo becuse the game was good

#

goddam capitalism am i right fellas

hasty kernel
#

Hear hear

#

Idk about the game, I never tried it, I figure it wouldnt have been my thing either

faint panther
#

it's like lor but more convoluted and less refined

#

i prefer it personally but i can see how most wouldn't

hasty kernel
#

Eh, they really dont have much in common

#

LoR is more magic with concurrent turns

faint panther
#

have you seen artifact or

hasty kernel
#

Yeah

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In Artifact you dont get to choose who attacks, or who blocks

faint panther
#

you do but it's less direct

hasty kernel
#

Some cards do

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But the basic game doesnt

#

Plus, no stack either

#

The only thing the 2 games share is that they have concurrent turns, and even those are different

faint panther
#

concurrent turns and champions and linked spells

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and yeah lor grabbed some stuff from everywhere

#

but it's the only card game in recent memory to share mechanics with artifact

hasty kernel
#

Eh, the champions are very different from artifacts heroes, as are the linked spells

#

Theyre closer to Magics legendary creatures

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With that one gimmick from Future Sight

#

Grandeur

faint panther
#

i'm aware but you can't really dismiss the idea that lor devs took some ideas from artifact

hasty kernel
#

I can actually

#

Mainly because LoR was worked on before Artifacts gameplay details were announced

faint panther
#

i see it as a more streamlined version of it that picks and chooses more from other card games than trying like artifact to make its own thing from scratch

#

you do realise that you can change gameplay elements during 1+ year of dev time yes

hasty kernel
#

Yeah but we also know that the basic gameplay elements were already in place at that point

#

The only exception are linked spells, since originally champions didnt have them

#

You just couldnt play a champion you had on the board already (like magics legendary creatures)

#

That felt bad, so they added the linked spells

#

Really, its more streamlined magic

#

With a dash of L5R

faint panther
#

l5r?

hasty kernel
#

Legend of the 5 Rings

faint panther
#

haven't heard of that one before

hasty kernel
#

Old CCG set in a tabletop RPG setting

#

Recently rebooted as an LCG by Fantasy Flight Games

#

It has concurrent turns

faint panther
#

aight neat

hasty kernel
#

With the strict alternation that LoR has, using a "First Player Token"

faint panther
#

which determines what, who has the first action within any given turn?

#

or is it like the attack/defense switch of lor?

hasty kernel
#

The former

faint panther
#

so moreso akin to artifact's iniative system then

hasty kernel
#

Not exactly

#

In Artifacts system initiative passes back and forth

#

In LoR and L5R it doesnt

faint panther
#

you're gonna have to be more explicit because artifact's initiative system can be somewhat convoluted

#

do you mean within the same turn or from turn to turn?

hasty kernel
#

From turn to turn

faint panther
#

or does the initiative just never change in l5r? and one player always gets to make the first action?

hasty kernel
#

I mean no

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Within the turn

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In L5R, if you just went first, youre going second next turn, always

#

In Artifact, thats not quite the case

faint panther
#

yeah, initiative manipulation is very important there

hasty kernel
#

Right

faint panther
#

they might've iterated on l5r's systems, i'd never heard of it before, gonna dig for a sec

hasty kernel
#

LoRs system is more L5Rs with the only change being alternating attacker/blocker setup

#

Which is probably to bring it closer to magic

#

Hence also having 2 main phases, one before and one after combat

faint panther
#

yeah no i see the similarities more now

#

haven't been exposed to mtg before so i just linked it to what few experiences felt similar

hasty kernel
#

Well Ive followed LoR closely so I knew a bit more

#

Like the fact that the devs are long-time magic enthusiasts

#

Kinda gives it away a bit

willow ferry
#

Don't know where else to ask this, but the ranks people are applying themselves in #bot-commands , what are they for? Sorry if that's a dumb question aaa

tardy anchor
#

Which are you confused about?

willow ferry
#

Well, all of them pretty much, except the one for the feedback channel

tardy anchor
#

Some of them are pronoun roles, some of them are just for what your fave game is and give your nickname a color, early access is to grant you certain channel permissions, kbm/controller is so ppl know how you play if you want them to!

willow ferry
#

OH that's what KBM stands for

tardy anchor
#

Key Board Mouse, yup!

willow ferry
#

Is there a list of applyable roles somewhere?

tardy anchor
#

I belieeeve you can search them in the bot channel with....hang on

polar reef
#

the pinnedd message

willow ferry
#

Ok, thanks!

tardy anchor
#

?ranks

#

Or that!

#

LOL PROXY...

willow ferry
#

Now to pick a favorite game... Hard decision! I suppose I could pick "All" but I haven't played Bastion yet

tardy anchor
#

Hope you like it when you do!! shadesmile

willow ferry
#

I'm sure I will! I've loved all the games so far, they're all visually stunning, and fun to play

#

The pink for Pyre matches my icon so that made my choice a little easier, lol

tardy anchor
#

its cute!!

ionic viper
#

pssssssst watch this it's good

hasty kernel
#

Also play the game

serene tulip
raven harbor
#

Outer Wilds is far and away my game of the year for 2019

south shadow
#

I replayed Bastion/Transistor and Terraria this year, but looking at those "Wilds" from time to time too... Still haven't made my mind to buy this game...

raven harbor
#

I will say that it's not quite for everyone (specifically if the idea of feeling really small in space is a paralyzing one)

wide ember
#

do ants even care of their smallness? one may bite me while knowing I’m thousands times bigger

#

We should think like ants

south shadow
#

I can imagine real proportions of stellar systems so player/ships do not look "so small" in steam videos. Just can't figure out what gameplay is there... But don't wan't to watch playthroughs on youtube because steam tags have "mystery" (and I don't want to ruin it)

faint panther
#

Ants aren't sapient, I don't think.

#

They at least don't have the self-preservation instinct to say "If this retaliates, I will die."

wide ember
#

or “I will die biting this huge monster: worth it”

raven harbor
#

I can try to summarize without spoiling anything

#

The best descriptor is that it's an environmental exploration game where you fly a ship to different planets to unravel a mystery

wide ember
#

when you put it that way it applies to no man’s sky too, lionheart

raven harbor
#

Sorta kinda

wide ember
#

do we also follow a signal in Wilds?

raven harbor
#

I'll let you look that up, I don't want to go any further into possible spoilers if I can help it

wide ember
#

k

#

and back to ant convo, humans are unique next to birds in that we have evolved significant self-control/impulse control

#

most animals on earth have much less impulse control and act without thinking of long term consequence

#

human, dogs, wolves, some birds etc. however have better “future vision” able to plan and envision long term consequences in scale of days or years in advance

sly sigil
#

The mods are the real heros

#

All these chats, the amount of texts

south shadow
#

The best descriptor is that it's an environmental exploration game where you fly a ship to different planets to unravel a mystery
That much I've figured myself... But will I like it or not depends on the details of mystery and on the "instruments" I can use as a player... Well... looks like the only way is to try it out...

raven harbor
#

So what I suggest is that you pick it up and refund it if it's not to your tastes (Steam has an extremely generous refund policy, and Epic has one but they're very strict about "2 hours of playtime")

#

You will absolutely know within that time if this is a game you will enjoy

#

Unlike some other games that take 4+ hours to really get off the ground

south shadow
#

Haven't refunded anything yet so I was not considering this option. Thanks for the idea, @raven harbor !

wise wolf
#

Doesn't Steam have the two hours thing too?

#

Valve will, upon request via help.steampowered.com, issue a refund for any reason, if the request is made within the required return period, and, in the case of games, if the title has been played for less than two hours.

#

@raven harbor @south shadow

faint panther
#

you can play for more than that and still get a refund, they're very lenient about that "requirement"

hasty kernel
#

Yeah they do, anyway

#

Outer Wilds' gameplay is really just exploration

raven harbor
#

Steam is really lenient about the two hour thing, Epic is very strict

wise wolf
#

Ah, I see

hasty kernel
#

Gaining access to more and more areas as you uncover more and more secrets

autumn pasture
#

ah man, i bought that in november and still haven't gotten around to play it 😅

wide ember
#

sometimes I feel like steam is the platform for video game hoarders more than people who actually play the games

#

it's definitely not an accurate feeling, but just looking at how many games are untouched in my library and hear that others also do that now and then...

#

2020 resolution no.3: actually try some of the games in the library

faint panther
#

add a custom collection for unplayed games

#

i've got uh

#

267 of those

autumn pasture
#

lmao, i feel good that i only have forty-one

hasty kernel
#

Ive got, hm

#

20-ish?

#

30, but it includes a bunch of PTS

faint panther
#

to put it in context that's out of 483
also a bunch that i've played offline are in there but didn't get registered as played because of that, some humble bundle games and some franchise bundle games that i don't care for

upbeat scroll
#

Ive been using family sharing with my friends and playing THEIR games that they never played

#

They've got some good ones

faint panther
#

wait no something's weird, i've got 344 played and 267 unplayed

#

out of 483 games

wide ember
#

...steam your math is off again

upbeat scroll
#

Shrodingers game

faint panther
#

maybe it's doublecounting offline games

#

and there's no crossover between played and unplayed

#

i

#

what

#

oh nvm then

#

i was thinking that maybe it was counting games u played offline as both played and unplayed

#

that was my first reaction too

#

but dynamic collections might just be broken idk

wide ember
#

only 18 games left uncategorized in my library... most of my hours (games with 100 hours and more) are in six games

#

all others only have few hours or mere minutes in them, or untouched

raven harbor
#

My backlog is 190 out of 687 across my digital PC libraries

odd edge
#

hiya uh

#

anyone know where the key for pyre is after you buy hades?

faint panther
#

in your steam inventory

#

although if you bought it today u might be past the deadline idk

wide ember
#

time goes way too fast when doing chores

#

at least the home is much cleaner for a while

#

...I'm out of mung beans, time to riot inside

charred glen
#

how many coffees does it take b4 u get a heart attack

autumn pasture
#

if you're asking this question out of your own experience you should perhaps stop drinking coffee now 👀

#

you're probably not going to give yourself a heart attack in one sitting

#

but also, drinking too much caffeine caffeine is wretched

north hamlet
#

you usually hit ld50 at about 80 to 100 cups

#

so you'd probably get a stomach ache from all that milk first

charred glen
#

alright so if i drink a few cups im safe?

#

well

#

as safe as u can be after a few cups of coffee

blissful charm
#

yeah you'll be fine

#

just don't drink too much or you get jittery, but you won't have any ill effects with a few cups

buoyant frigate
#

Coffee is far from the worst thing to drink if you’re concerned about caffeine content

autumn pasture
#

true

#

i knew a guy in high school who drank multiple large energy drinks every single day 😬

#

yeah just don't make yourself sick, but you're probably not going to have a heart attack

scarlet chasm
#

To get a heart attack requires SO much Caffeine it that you would probably throw up before you even get to that point.

blissful charm
#

i guess unless you took a frightening amount of caffeine pills

north hamlet
#

or ate pure caffeine

autumn pasture
#

or did that thing on that one tumblr post where the guy crushed caffeine pills and brewed them in turkish coffee, lmao

upbeat scroll
#

The highest dose someone ever took of caffeine and lived was because someone was doing a study and one of the nurses misread how much caffeine they were supposed to administer and gave the patient 100 times more than they should

raven harbor
#

Related, overcaffination is the worse high I've ever experienced

#

Like supremely unpleasant

blissful charm
#

too much caffeine is a very bad feeling

wide ember
#

I once saw a man with rather altered state of mind in the metro from drinking too many red bulls

#

He was sitting still and it had been a minute but he felt like half an hour had passed

#

His heart was beating too fast and he couldn’t focus

#

so if your goal is to stay awake and be able to work, do some ginger chew and/or ginseng chew

#

(Please do not overdose with either of them either)

blissful charm
#

my cat loves me very much and liked to crawl on top of me when im lying down and knead me, which is very sweet but she's fat so it's also very painful

#

i think i have rib damage from binding and she loves stepping on my ribs the most

autumn pasture
#

oh noo :((

blissful charm
#

her love is worth the pain

wide ember
#

I think that pot I put on the floor somehow moved like 5 inches without anyone touching it

#

it's probably just because it was still shaking when I put it down and the unevenness of its bottom made it move as it vibrated (falling few millimeters on one side more than the other every back-n-forth)

#

still looks eerie, I should probably borrow a cat or aim a mirror at it just in case?

north hamlet
#

might also be some vibrations from another source contributing too

#

i would put some kind of padding under to level it

wide ember
#

newspaper seems to do the trick

#

now I also kind of understand why this pot heats up so slowly: part of it was probably not in contact with the stove

wide ember
#

woah I just made a lemonade that tasted like some fancy boba tea base

#

6 meyer lemons plus about 240ml of aloe plus 3 spoons of honey plus water

upbeat scroll
#

Mayor lemons

blissful charm
#

for a moment i forgot aloe was edible and thought you were talking about aloe vera

wide ember
#

aloe vera is edible though? (only some varieties, please do not eat your flowershop aloe vera)

north hamlet
#

They are sorta the same thing

wide ember
#

(I used bottled aloe drink with aloe pieces)

north hamlet
#

Mmmm aloe drink

wide ember
#

I am having such sugar high right now

blissful charm
#

im thinking of like the stuff you get from the drug store for sunburns

cedar rock
#

aloe vera drink is sooo good

#

found it in my international aisle and buy it every time i go to the store

wide ember
#

ikr

vocal brook
#

Me, writing a fictional story about original characters in a modified version of a fictional setting: Okay but do they play darts correctly

wide ember
#

easy way out: say it's house rules so it's not representative of any darts culture

vocal brook
#

Unpossible

wide ember
#

mais si-

#

(where do we read it)

vocal brook
#

If you really want, I'll link it when I'm done

wide ember
#

I've been craving good stuff to read for a while, preferably structured in a way that takes the best of terry pratchett and jonas hassen khemiri

vocal brook
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I'll try to live up to those expectations, but I meant more that this is very self-indulgent stuff, and I'm not sure how much of it will be understandable to other people. I'll let you know when I'm finished, though!

wide ember
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and strong opening like a neal stephenson

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I mean, each author has their unique way to be good, I may want this and that but it's even better if it's totally different and I only love it more

brazen oriole
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yeah basically

faint panther
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Yeet

brazen oriole
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persona 4 is feelgood, persona 3 is death, persona 5 is rebellion

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and to the guy who was asking about whether or not they should play p4

faint panther
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I just wish they would consider of the players who actually bought the full game first and then make the extras as DLC, it's not like it's impossible and Atlus is not a random/poor company that doesn't know how to make a game or a separate content.

brazen oriole
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i would say yes if you love getting involved with the life of a bunch of really great characters

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yeah

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i agree wholeheartedly

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that is on one hand

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the other problem is that people keep giving them the money that just allows 'em to do it

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not enough people complain about it

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oh my god

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seriously

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i can't say shid

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wtf

faint panther
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Yeah, true. The first problem lies on people throwing their money supporting blindly a company, that then turns to greed and to bad/poor customer service.

brazen oriole
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they eat that poop up

faint panther
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lol

brazen oriole
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yep

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and the people who constantly buy the spinoffs

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it kinda proves that they can just get away with anything

uncut sigil
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I'm gonna play p4 anyway cause I have the ps2 disk

brazen oriole
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that kind of fact can turn a good company bad given their shareholders

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shareholders will never not be a terrible thing

uncut sigil
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Neccesary evil tho right?

raven harbor
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I've wholly enjoyed the stories and characters of the Persona content I've consumed but they also tend to do a lot of things that I really wish they didn't

faint panther
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Look, jokes aside, P3 and P4 REALLY deserved their remakes, the content was justified for the price tag back then + given that they both were like SUPER old games. P5 was out in a full price for what? A year or two, barely? And that "remake" just doesn't sit well. If you are a new player and thinking of buying it, congrats! You got every right, I support the idea. But at least as a company with structure, HAVE the damn common courtesy of making a separate DLC file which can properly update the vanilla main game, it's not like the game's 5-10 years old to do something like that in the first place, and it's not like they actually reworked everything in the game.

brazen oriole
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yeah

faint panther
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I enjoyed the story and the characters, too.

brazen oriole
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what's really funny rn

faint panther
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Loved them.

brazen oriole
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i went to eb games the other day

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saw persona 5 for 15$ omegalul

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it's like

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kind of weird honestly

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the games themselves have an unbelievable amount of content

faint panther
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The vanilla?

brazen oriole
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i can't bring myself to complain about them

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yeah the vanilla

faint panther
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Dang

brazen oriole
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like i paid 55$ initially for persona 5

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i bought an entire ps4 just to play persona 5

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and i legit have not once regretted it

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that being said

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making it so people have to repay full price just for at most 20 hours more of content?

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not really epic

faint panther
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I paid around 32 euro I think on my PS4 and I had something to spend back then when I also had a year of sub....god I miss the BB online now.

uncut sigil
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Bb online?

brazen oriole
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blazblue?

uncut sigil
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F blazblue

faint panther
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Bloodbotne

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Bloodborne

uncut sigil
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Oh

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Good

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Not blazblue

faint panther
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Ain't touching blazblueh

uncut sigil
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I hate blazblue

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Just play guilty gear

faint panther
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I hate, it too lol

uncut sigil
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Guiltys way better

brazen oriole
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bruhh

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blazblue crosstag is fun

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and yes i do only say this because of the persona characters

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ok i thikn

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yes

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self reflection has shown me that i am big doo doo

uncut sigil
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Oh crosstag is fine

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Central fiction is the third worst fighting game ever made

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And I have fighting game expiereince

brazen oriole
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i don't to be fair

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i really like smash though

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smash ultimate epic, yes

uncut sigil
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Bbtag is way more fun casually

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Competitive wise both those are utter trash

faint panther
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Nothing can top Bloodborne in my eyes, I am sorry, guys, I am a BB fanboi. lol

uncut sigil
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Fair

faint panther
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Burned the game too hard, platinumed it and felt real achievement.

uncut sigil
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Lol

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It's amazingi

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I need it

faint panther
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Ironically, when I played DS1 original years ago as a teenage - yes, I am super old, sorry lol - I didn't liked it.

uncut sigil
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Ds1 is much much less refined and doesn't tech you well

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Look at h bomberguys dark souls vids there cool

faint panther
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When DS2 came out, I was like "oh great, another "challenging" crap." little did I know the trailer sold me well, grabbed the game as a rent on my PS3, played it, finished it, had the BEST time of my life ever, years later got PS4 and BB together, it was worth every single euro, then I got DS3 on my Steam, worth it and loved it, re-bought DS2SotFS on Steam, finished it, both 100% , worth it.

brazen oriole
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have u played code vein?

faint panther
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Played DS1R on a friend's pc and guess what? Found it SUPER easier....except environment. Screw that. DS1 has the hardest maps.

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Enemies are easy.

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I did and I despised it.

uncut sigil
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I have

faint panther
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The demo was better.

uncut sigil
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It's good

faint panther
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I reached the swamp area and it was beyond boring.

uncut sigil
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Code vein is great

faint panther
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Idk, I can respect people liking it, it's just, doesn't feel for me.

uncut sigil
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It is a bit samey and boring but overall fun

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I get ya

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I got lost in the cathedral and duck that was boring but it was worth it

faint panther
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On the other hand I also despised MHW, yeah, please, don't hate me, but I loved GE3.

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And GE series in general.

uncut sigil
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Mhw is boring

faint panther
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^ Finally.

uncut sigil
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Ge?

faint panther
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I really wanted to try Iceborn though, but sucks it's not going to be standalone, looked more interesting.

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God Eater.

uncut sigil
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Mhw is so boring lmao

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How good is ge?

faint panther
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Well, for something as an off branch "spin off" from MHW with different setting and universe....

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It's perfect, more engaging and more interesting.

uncut sigil
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Cool

faint panther
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But it's too much anime like story if you dig that, get it.

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If you don't like anime, don't play it.

uncut sigil
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I fing love anime

faint panther
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Then you gonna have the time of your life.

uncut sigil
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Oh wait

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God eater not god hand

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Different ganes

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Lol

faint panther
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GE3 is literally perfection, actually, but the previous two are too old but with better story.

uncut sigil
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I know nothing about eater

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I'll try em out maybe

faint panther
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If you ever get GE3 on Steam or anything, hit me up, man, I can help.

uncut sigil
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Wym help?

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Also do you watch anime/read manga

faint panther
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I do, and I mean, the games have coop.

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You can play them with a friend if you want.

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No invasions.

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No pvp.

uncut sigil
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Oh cool

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I wish it had both but ok

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You read berserk

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?

faint panther
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Eh, if a game needs to have a pvp, I would like it to be like official arena or something when people WANT to go and pvp and not forced, reasons I hated SB community was that.

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But in BB you can at least shut off the pvp.

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Yes, I did but dropped it, watched the anime.

uncut sigil
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That's what I meant

faint panther
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And the movies.

uncut sigil
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Why did you drop it

faint panther
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How can I say it?

uncut sigil
#

Berserk 2016?

faint panther
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It was good, but I guess I am too old to "appreciate" old art. lol

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Besides, I'd prefer to watch it animated.

uncut sigil
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Why tho

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The manga drawings are god tier

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Half of them could go in a museum honestly

faint panther
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I think I really liked and prefer the animation on this one, the music, the voice acting, it feels more "alive" and immersive for me, personally.

uncut sigil
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Lol

faint panther
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The movies were really well done.

uncut sigil
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Oh ok

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You seen made in abyss?

faint panther
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I did.

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Really great.

uncut sigil
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It's fing brilliant

faint panther
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And really sad.

uncut sigil
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That song in ep1 is the single best song ever imo

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With the first real shot of the abyss

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It's so good

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Haneseve charandhina

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||and it played during the goodbye in like ep 8 or 9||

faint panther
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I think I know what you mean.

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Been too long.

uncut sigil
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I typed ducking

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Duck autocorrect

vocal brook
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Oh my gods
I'm not used to actually finishing a writing project

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I'm like 75% done, wish me luck

wide ember
#

/throw bottles of ink

vocal brook
#

No!

uncut sigil
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What you talking about

vocal brook
#

I'm writing a thing

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And I have enough motivation to actually finish it

uncut sigil
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What thing

vocal brook
#

A self-indulgent short story with my original characters

uncut sigil
#

👍

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I wish you luck

vocal brook
#

💚

uncut sigil
#

I love dusa

vocal brook
uncut sigil
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Dusa face

wide ember
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(does anybody know if bone can go into dishwasher?)

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(not bone china, bone chopsticks and spoons and such)

north hamlet
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Huh

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Never thought about that before

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Doesn't look like bone is ok

vocal brook
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I have finished the short story! I'm gonna take a sleep now, I'll revise it in the morning

faint panther
#

grats, sleep well

wide ember
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inlay is usually no-no because of the glue

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I ended up hand washing the bone

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good night 🛌

chilly briar
#

I sharpen knives for my parents and theirs gets ruined by being lazy and using their dishwasher for their knives

north hamlet
#

Mood

blissful charm
#

shoutout to my mom for keeping my sat records from 10 years, something which is absolutely useless but now vital in my application to grad school

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i did slightly better than avg which is better than i thought i did

hasty kernel
#

I wonder if she actually kept them, or if its just her mom superpower of being able to find anything youve lost in a place youve already looked

wide ember
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if my mother keeps anything it will be bound to be lost, so probably she kept them and mom superpower is just mom keeping track of where things are

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unless my mother has anti-mom power: assure that things are lost when needed

blissful charm
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my mom also found my driving test results from when i was 19 so i think it's the mom superpower of just keeping anything vaguely important

olive lagoon
#

You guys know any other nice games?
Maybe some games that are similar to like Dark Souls, Sekiro or such?

autumn pasture
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play hollow knight

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also my mom genuinely has the superpower of finding things, but also the superpower of keeping everything important, which i think most moms have

olive lagoon
#

that games seems great

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thanks for the advice

north hamlet
#

have you tried monster hunter?

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also hyper light drifter

uncut sigil
#

Mh is fine I don't know hld

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Mh is a bit boring honestly

north hamlet
#

it does get pretty grindy at high levels

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hyper light drifter is great but it doesn't explain very much about itself

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you need to experiment and investigate the game on your own

uncut sigil
#

Is hld worth buying

north hamlet
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i enjoyed it a lot

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but that doesn't mean you will

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it's been out for a while so it would probably go on sale every once in a while

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and the epic store has given it away for free twice already

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so if you're not sure maybe wait for something like that

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the game is definitely well made, regardless of whether you will find it enjoyable or not

hexed hollow
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a good way imo to know if it's worth while buying for you is to watch gameplay or play the game for a bit on a friends account (if you know someone who owns the game)

olive lagoon
#

I have hld but haven't played it yet

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I tried dauntless

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kinda same like MH right?

hexed hollow
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kinda but not really, they're the same in that you fight big monsters and use them to craft your gear

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but that's about it

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Mon Hun World is by far the most accessible in the series so far, and if you do play it I'd recomend giving every weapon a play to see what weapon(s) fits your playstyle the most

north hamlet
#

dauntless feels different to play

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also is super not single player friendly

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both dauntless and mhw are good overall though

hasty kernel
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Theyre in the same genre, but their gameplay is different

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Id also thrown in God Eater here

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Its the most fast-paced of the monster hunter-genre

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Its also very accessible, but with crazy potential depth due to the bullet system alone

fleet sable
#

@exotic harness sabbb

exotic harness
#

minttttt

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<33333

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helloooo

fleet sable
#

welcome !!

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@faint panther explain your name pls

hasty kernel
#

Its Snells law

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A formula for refraction of light

wide ember
#

wow I have learned the hard way why asian dishes limit the quantity of bamboo sprouts but it does not stop me from eating too much

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basically, humans are not pandas so we get indigestion if we eat too much fiber like this, but the crunchiness is just too good

exotic harness
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i approve of this message ^^

ionic viper
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i don't know why "bascally, humans are not pandas" is making me laugh so much