#off-topic-discussion

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hasty kernel
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I used to have a keyboard where they were right above the number keys

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I miss that keyboard tbh

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Anyway the G600 also has some features Ive personally never used

ionic viper
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i'm always a bit wary of trying other brands of mice because it can be tough to tell, from a picture, how comfy it's going to be in the hand

hasty kernel
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But just having 12 more keys is good

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Yeah thats fair

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Its perfect for mine but my hands are big-ish

supple sleet
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Yeah and it differs from person to person. Thankfully, if you order on Amazon, you've got 30 days to return it. shrugs

hasty kernel
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True but thats usually a hassle tbh

ionic viper
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plus, it looks like i can get the fancy version, which has two extra buttons under the scroll wheel

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for about as much as i'd be paying for the normal version that doesn't have those buttons

supple sleet
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I've never found returning on Amazon to be a hassle personally, but I'm in US so policies might be different.

ionic viper
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i don't like the idea of having a whole keypad to hit with my thumb

supple sleet
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All I have to do is print a label and go into a shipping store.

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Fair Sparrow, they're not for everyone.

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It took a LOT of retraining.

hasty kernel
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Mmh

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I just like it because its much easier to use the right skills on the fly

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Though I have to admit

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the bottommost left and right button

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Are pretty hard to hit

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I usually dont put anything important on them

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I wonder how people handle games where you have more than 15 skills at once without such a mouse

copper lark
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my mum plays wow with arrow keys and her laptop touchpad

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that’s why i fear her more than anyone

desert swallow
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Mood

ionic viper
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a billion hotbars, if the hud screenshots i've seen of ffxiv are any indicator

hasty kernel
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Tbh someone who plays like that should be feared

copper lark
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she plays healer too like

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i don’t know how she has maxed out multiple characters

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but i’m scared

supple sleet
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Apparently like a boss. 😛

copper lark
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please fire emblem

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i did sign up to get my heart broken over hearing kids upset over killing people

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stop that rooCry

supple sleet
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Jason, my co-worker, gave FE a 4.5/5, said it was full of all the feels.

copper lark
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my heart isn’t ready it’s still healing from shadowbringers

serene tulip
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Ooh

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I'm 4 levels away from dark knight

supple sleet
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I loved DRK

wide ember
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FE is doing their best to push anti-war messages

ionic viper
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i just unlocked red mage and oooooof this is gonna take some learning

copper lark
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yeah red mage is a funky one

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you gotta be a real funky person to main it

supple sleet
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it's so amazingly strong

copper lark
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that’s why the only red mage npc we have is alisaie

supple sleet
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But yeah that

copper lark
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blue mage worst class

supple sleet
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Blue Mage isn't even a real class, you can't count it 😛

ionic viper
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i don't have enough fingers to play this class

copper lark
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just grow another hand sparrow

supple sleet
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lol Sparrow: Now you see why I bought a special mouse just for it? 😛

serene tulip
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I want to take a nap

ionic viper
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i think it's jsut going to be a matter of lining my bars up right

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the most daunting part is when you first unlock the class and it's just skills EVERYWHERE that you don't know what they are

copper lark
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THE BYLETH ON THE LOADING SCREEN IS MOTION CONTROLLED-

ionic viper
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THEY SURE ARE :D

ionic viper
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slapped together a red mage look just because i could and i wanted to look Cute (and the boots make a comeback)

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i could probably use a better set of gloves but i just used whatever i had on me

supple sleet
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You look ready to buckle some swashes.

ionic viper
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yarrrr

copper lark
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red mage seems perfect for you

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for ... some reason ...

ionic viper
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gosh it's almost like........ it's the best colour.......

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;P

supple sleet
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TBH, all this talk about FFXIV makes me want to try FFXI for the 900th time, for some reason.

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I have just never been able to get far in that game.

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Anyone else excited for NMS Beyond?

hasty kernel
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What would that be

supple sleet
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No Man's Sky has a major content patch, and is adding VR, plus additional MP support

hasty kernel
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Huh

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Well, NMS isnt quite my thing

supple sleet
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I lurvs it.

hasty kernel
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So I guessed

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Personally Im looking forward to the release of the switch lite so I can play Astral Chain, and PSO2 in 2020

supple sleet
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I'd be about 1000 more excited for PSO2 if it was 5 years ago. shrugs I'm not knocking anyone who wants to play it now, but I'll probably skip it.

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CP2077 is my jam for 2020

hasty kernel
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I mean the graphics havent aged too well

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But the combat is still unbeaten

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Well except by Dragon Nest but that game is even older and basically unplayed

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As for CP2077, I remain hesitant

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Much of it sounds too good to be true

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Ill see if it ends up disappointing or not before buying it

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Plus Id have to upgrade my PC to play it, because playing a first person game on a console sounds like hell

supple sleet
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Must not have played Halo? <.<

sharp grail
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pso2?

supple sleet
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Phantasy Star Online 2.

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It was announced to be releasing in the west at E3

sharp grail
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ah, i remember now

hasty kernel
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Its an old MMO

supple sleet
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7 years later...

hasty kernel
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But really really good

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Its also why I love powershot mechanics in this game

sharp grail
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kinda hyped for astral chain but only kinda

hasty kernel
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And no, I havent played Halo

sharp grail
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the only things that really grabbed me in e3 were the indies

hasty kernel
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I love the setting and combat of the game

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Outside of Astral Chain and Tales of Arise, yeah

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Mostly indie

sharp grail
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i just slowly lost more and more excitement for cyberpunk

hasty kernel
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That oni something game

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Oninaki

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That looks really interesting

supple sleet
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For me it was Indies and, honestly, Watchdogs Legion has my interest piqued, but I loathe Ubisoft, in general, so we'll see.

hasty kernel
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Lets be real here

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The only reason anyone cared or cares for Watchdogs Legion

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Is for punk grandma

sharp grail
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duh

supple sleet
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That didn't hurt. 😛

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I was sold before we saw her though.

sharp grail
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well its a cool concept, playing as anyone

hasty kernel
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Especially if "anyone" means "punk grandma"

sharp grail
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lemme check out oninaki for a sec

cedar rock
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has anyone mentioned ori 2 yet

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cuz

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ORI 2

sharp grail
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oh, not my thing

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i think i somehow missed it also

hasty kernel
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Ah

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Yeah thats fair

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Oh and FFVII remake

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It looked surprisingly good

supple sleet
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Was just gonna say xD

sharp grail
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just off the top of my head i remember i was excited for el hijo

supple sleet
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I'm hyped for that, but FFVIII can blow chunks.

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To be entirely honest? I'm actually intrigued about Minecraft Dungeons.

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And I know a lot of people hyped for DBZ Kakarot

hasty kernel
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Oh I missed that one, its charming

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Oh and Spirit Farer looked charming

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Oh there is one thing Im looking forward to this year besides Astral Chain

copper lark
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ff7r rooSlain

hasty kernel
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BBXTAG 2.0

sharp grail
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hell yeah spiritfarer

hasty kernel
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Because you get to play as a literal tank in a fighting game

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Its so ludicrous and stupid

sharp grail
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oh, and cris tales, unexplored 2, 12 minutes

supple sleet
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I'm vaguely curious about Last Remnant Remastered, because I think that game was a massive underdog.

hasty kernel
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Look at this

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Its great

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Yeah Cris Tales looks cool

supple sleet
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12 minutes looks awesome. I just made the profile for that on our website the other day.

hasty kernel
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I wasnt sure about the combat but I played the demo

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And it convinced me

supple sleet
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I think 2020 is going to be a good year for games. 2019 feels kind of mellow, tbh.

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Shadowbringers and a few other shiners aside.

hasty kernel
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Idk I mostly liked 2019

supple sleet
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Didn't say I didn't like it, just that it was mellow. 😉

hasty kernel
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No wait

serene tulip
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So I bought a new fancy HYDROFLASKtm water bottle with vacuum insulation.

hasty kernel
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Crosscode was 2018

serene tulip
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and it makes a nice ringing noise when I hit it

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except that its out of tune

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like, halfway between a D and a D#

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and its driving me nuts

hasty kernel
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Speaking of which buy Crosscode its really really good

north hamlet
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It's only out of tune if that's how you divide your tuning

serene tulip
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Well screw microtonals D:

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Society has trained me since birth that this is the scale

wide ember
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Hydroflask looks expensive

copper lark
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dimitri levels up so quickly

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he’s level 10 and mercedes is still only level 2

wide ember
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as expected of house leader

copper lark
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i made dimitri untouchable

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i fear him

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dimitri is a very good cavalier unit

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two enemy gambits missed him what have i created

wide ember
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a demigod

copper lark
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you say that and made me realise why i love dimitri

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look at thanatos and look at dimitri

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....

supple sleet
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I was just reading someone talking about being horribly overleveled for normal mode in FE

copper lark
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oh?

supple sleet
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Yeah, just a random tweet, but it sounds like you're dealing with similar.

copper lark
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ohh

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maybe? i think i’m just using dimitri too much

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and his new found invincibility won’t help that

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if the pair up option were a thing still he’d be mercedes shield to level her up

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i’m gonna give ashe a hug and maybe cry a little now

supple sleet
severe plover
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Ohh cute!

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The Art reminds me of spelunky Ngl but that’s prob just bc,,, caves lmao

supple sleet
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Yeah, they've got a cute little game going. I like the idea of a sort of Roguelike/Zelda hybrid.

supple sleet
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Oh, hey, I've got an extra key for Squad from Humble Monthly, if anyone is interested.

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serene tulip
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TFW you feel like crud but you don't want to go home because you get mad FOMO when your friends are doing things without you.

supple sleet
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I don't think I've ever experienced FOMO, tbh.

north hamlet
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That usually means you should ignore the crud feeling and just go out and have a good time because that makes the cruddiness go away

supple sleet
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Depends on the type of crud I reckon.

north hamlet
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Good point

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It's a common part of CBT for depression so if it's that type of cruddy it's a good idea to just power though

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If you're sick in bed stay at home and do something nice

supple sleet
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I have some pretty mixed feelings about CBT, and have read a lot of mixed things. One thing I don't like is "should" statements though.

north hamlet
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I've heard it's at least as effective as taking prescription drugs, and doesn't come with the side effects or ongoing costs, although it's not going to be the right treatment for everyone

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Some people are much better after a bit of therapy, some need both therapy and medication, and some respond best to medication

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Everyone's physiology and experiences differ, so even if a treatment isn't perfectly effective for everyone it can still be amazing for the people it does work for

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Not sure what the problem is with the use of the word "should" though, do you mind elaborating?

supple sleet
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Well, that's where you heard wrong. No therapy is "as effective" as medication. It's like saying "Apple juice is as effective as lemon juice" They're two entirely different things, and one should never be used to replace the other, but they can at times be used in tandem.

As far as "Should", it has a certain implication. You "should do better" You "should try harder" you "should make the effort". All of them create a sense of obligation that can result in guilt if you don't do it.

north hamlet
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I didn't mean to equate them when i said "as effective" since you're right in saying they're different

supple sleet
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But yeah, different types of therapy are more or less effective for different people, but I've actually read medical journals saying that certain aspects of CBT can be harmful.

north hamlet
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Just that they are both good ways that can be used to address the same problem

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It won't work for some people, as is the case for many treatments

supple sleet
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Well, let me put it like this.... If you had a broken arm, you need to do 2 things:
First, you set the break. This is where medication comes in. It helps establish a baseline.
Second, you need a cast. This is where therapy comes in. It helps you not move out of place.

north hamlet
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As for the implications of "should" i didn't mean it in that way but i can see the issue

supple sleet
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People often don't mean it when they say it, but it can create it when the person hears it. It's an inner voice thing.

north hamlet
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Yeah I'll have to pay more attention to that

supple sleet
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(I'm in recovery for bipolar and my wife works in a mental health emergency room, and is BPD, so...)

north hamlet
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I don't agree with the use of medication as a core part of initial treatment though

supple sleet
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I think it's a case by case basis. It's going to depend on the severity of the break.

north hamlet
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Yeah definitely

supple sleet
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You don't always need to set the bone, like if it's a hairline fracture.

north hamlet
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I have much more experience with mental conditions than physical conditions so that detail didn't occur to me

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I still don't recommend staying at home if possible, since shutting yourself away is an excellent way to make yourself feel worse

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But also don't force yourself if it's too much

supple sleet
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I think that still is a pretty gross generalization. What if they're an introvert that has been around people all day and they just need some quiet time to recharge? What if they're completely spoon depleted? What if they're getting sick?

north hamlet
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I did say earlier it depends on the type of crud feeling

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I trust that oce knows when it's the type of crud feeling that necessitates rest

supple sleet
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I think the best thing to do is ask, "What can we do to help?"

north hamlet
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I totally agree that what's actually best depends on the situation

supple sleet
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(And that's another reason I like avoiding should statements)

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The only one I'll universally accept is: You should do what you think is best for you.

north hamlet
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I can't agree with that one actually because sometimes people don't actually have the knowledge they need to take the best course of action

hexed hollow
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not only that, doing what's you think is best is a lot easier said than done

wide ember
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oceloctopus, wanna have a movie streaming night here?

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everybody here is invited

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the initial statement was just want to have fun because feeling of missing out right?

north hamlet
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(rereading the initial comment it seems the situation is that they're out and don't feel well but don't want to leave because fomo, in which case not feeling well is the thing that I suggest be prioritised)

supple sleet
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Eh that's fair, and sometimes what people think is best can be self harm, and obviously we don't want to promote that. 😛

hexed hollow
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brains are weird, and something I wish had a soft reset function

supple sleet
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They do, it's called a nap xD

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Goodness naps can be wonderful things.

wide ember
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one thing my teachers and professors told me in university about how to tell if somebody is mental ill or just tired or drugged is to let them rest overnight (after doing the physical checks for blood pressure and blood test for common drugs and etc.)

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if the depression or hallucination is gone after a good sleep plus good breakfast you can already cross off a few possibilities

supple sleet
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True nuff. Though with bipolar like mine, rapid cycling, sometimes it just lets serotonin and dopamine levels reset and get my head on straight.

wide ember
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(the subject/context was about how to tell if a person is drugged or insane when the person can't tell you if they've taken any drug like if they were roofied or something)

upbeat scroll
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What does "goes away after nap" signify

supple sleet
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Ah yeah, for sure.

wide ember
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say if a person gets sent in the hospital taking about elves and swimming in the floortiles, and you let them sleep for a night and when they wake up they don't feel that anymore and tell you that their new friend fed them a brownie, you kind of can assume some stuff from there and continue investigation from there

supple sleet
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That it's not something like severe schizoaffective disorder or something, at least. 😛 Naps won't generally reset that <.<

wide ember
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or if a person looked very very depressed but then in the morning talks about how their life is too stressful and isn't that depressed anymore, you can assume some kind of burnout

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but if you are really down with an illness, nap can improve the mood or possibility of verbalizing it, but won't go away that much, so you investigate in that direction

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then again, many types of depression are temporary and heal all by itself, and it's estimated that 48%-75% of depression are temporary (stress, trauma, not enough sunlight, etc.) and require no medication or therapy, and usually if life situation is improved it will heal within a few months

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CBT is best when the issue is psychological, med is required when the issue is neurological, it's very different

supple sleet
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Yeah, the difference between chronic and episodic mental illness.

wide ember
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there's acute, chronic, episodic

cinder blaze
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I've found combining some CBT techniques with my medication more effective than relying on either alone, personally.

supple sleet
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nods The problem is when it's a chronic condition and people say "Go get some sunlight, you'll feel better" when that's not the issue at all.

@cinder blaze That's very standard.

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In fact, the effect is usually multiplicative, not additive.

wide ember
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usually if you have neurological issue you also have psychological issue, not the other way around

cinder blaze
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Ah, that's interesting.

wide ember
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so if you take med you usually can also take CBT but if you take CBT you don't always need med

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or other types of therapy that targets the psyche

supple sleet
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Yeah sol, accurate. Again, comparing it to physical things, it's like the difference between bumping your knee on the table, and having arthritis.

wide ember
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that's a good enough analogy

supple sleet
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Aspirin is going to help the symptoms of either, but it's not going to stop the pain of arthritis from coming back.

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Except from there the analogy breaks down a bit.

wide ember
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but you don't need aspiring for bumping knee on the table, just stop bumping against the table would do

supple sleet
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Right.

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Re-arrange your furniture. 😛

wide ember
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so seasonal depression, burnout depression, grief depression would be like bumping knee against table

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you can take the med or not take the med, but usually all that you need is re-arrange your furniture and also take a vacation in a sunny place

supple sleet
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Mmmm, I'm not sure about seasonal, I think some people are predisposed.

wide ember
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and in a while you are fine

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ok depends on the genetic seasonal depression or the lesser seasonal depression

supple sleet
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Which is why they call it seasonal affective disorder.

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Right.

wide ember
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yeah seasonal affective is more like neurology so that goes to arthritis

supple sleet
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nods

wide ember
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but the whole feeling down because no sunlight and no fresh produce and having to break backs shoveling snow is bumping knee

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meanwhile, chronic depression, episodic depression, bipolar, or any neurological issues with neurotransmitters or receptors or brain regions, that goes to arthritis

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sure you can also choose to not take med but you just make your life unbearable and it's not going to go away by itself, so you need med plus physio and ignoring it would probably just make it worse

supple sleet
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Off to make some supper. 😃 Be well all!

cinder blaze
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That was a fascinating discussion~ Enjoy your dinner!

north hamlet
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it really says something about the server that we can have these kinds of talks

hexed hollow
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it be chill here bittieCozy

wide ember
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this is the server of the makers that made pyre, it better be this chill and good

upbeat scroll
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Ah yes, pyre, the game where only chill and good things happen

wide ember
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a group that serves an ideal as fiction yet does not serve it in action would be hypocritical indeed

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the aim of pyre was an utopia and we must choose to be its stepstones

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and yes, I am aware that an utopia is an asymptote

upbeat scroll
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I'm not sure if utopia is the right word. The goal in pyre is to get rid of the terrible government

wide ember
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goal and aim are not exactly the same thing

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goal is meant to be a landing point

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aim is the direction you point at

upbeat scroll
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Lots of stories are about making the world better

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But pyre is about revolution specifically

wide ember
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yet not all authors act as the fiction implies they should

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pyre is not just about revolution, but the best possible path is a peaceful revolution backed by overwhelming power of the majority

upbeat scroll
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I don't see greg overthrowing any terrible governments

wide ember
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are you french or what

upbeat scroll
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How'd you guess :P

wide ember
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we have a thing called la révolution tranquille

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the quiet revolution

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step by step, we changed the way the society was

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not perfect, but good enough yet every good enough step moved us closer to what we wanted

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this does not work every where, of course, as both the umbrella revolution and the gilet jaune revolution failed

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the mass grève at martinique island also failed

upbeat scroll
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Did the gillet jaunt thing fail?

wide ember
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gilet jaune either failed or was not enough of a success

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too many were arrested and the result was non-zero but not close enough

upbeat scroll
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Gonna draw pyre characters waving antifa flags

wide ember
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supergiant games may not be overthrowing gouvernments, but it is replacing bad culture with good culture, both by improving their games and by running a good discord server, and there might be other points as well

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and this is like volfred's agenda: adding good people to a bad system until it becomes overwhelmingly good

sly stump
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... I mean, there was very much an overthrow in volfred's agenda

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the point of volfred's agenda was specifically not for the liberated nightwings to join the established Commonwealth order

north hamlet
copper lark
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good morning rooSmug

north hamlet
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(it's not morning here tho, so good evening)

copper lark
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it’s nearly 12 i just wanna milk what i have left

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also that gif isn’t loading but i’m scared

north hamlet
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that's probably for the better then

copper lark
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hello any ffxiv friends who have played shb i need help figuring something out

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||why are thancreds eyes normal again||

ionic viper
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i haven’t played shb but i Know Certain Things so can i put my theory forth anyways

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also guess what i bought today

copper lark
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please put ur theory forth bc

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i’m actually baffled

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also WEW nice mouse

ionic viper
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£51.99 but considering that my previous deathadder lasted 6 years of being used almost every single day for hours of gaming i think it’s worth the investment

copper lark
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rooSmug hell yeah

ionic viper
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anyway my theory is that ||his eyes are normal because it’s only his soul being projected to the first, his actual body is still on the source and that’s why his eyes are the way they used to be||

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||i can’t explain why y’shtola is presumably still blind on the first but maybe it’s a matter of how you picture yourself||

copper lark
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||that makes a lot of sense actually, i’m sure they won’t have a real lore reason tho :c||

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||i don’t know how much u know abt characters in shb but i’m getting upset bc i don’t wanna leave someone in the first rooBooli ||

somber ferry
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oh sparrow that’s a great mouse!! very nice

ionic viper
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i used a deathadder before and it would only have been a couple of pounds cheaper for the “essentials” version so i went for the elite

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it’s installing/updating rn and the colours are so pretty 🌈

silver maple
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It’s worth it, believe it has custom weighting

ionic viper
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the texture of the mouse is a little rougher on my hand than i’m used to but that is probably because i’d worm the old one smooth lmao

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is it sad/nerdy of me that i’m excited to figure out how to work the two extra buttons on top into my xiv keybinds

silver maple
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you want a rougher mouse on the sides most of the time anyways

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Yeah! Those are handy

ionic viper
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i don't really need to mess with the sensitivity too much

silver maple
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I don’t 100% recall because it was like 3 mice ago but it might have a dpi button you want to avoid/change asap

ionic viper
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i think that's the sensitivity thing

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(oops that's the ffxiv profile but w/e)

silver maple
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OH yeah, that

ionic viper
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i use alt and shift as the side buttons because i have babie hands and can't hit them comfortably while keeping my fingers on the numbers

sharp grail
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oh nice sparrow enjoy your new mouse!!

ionic viper
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sorry it's a mouse and not a rat shadepensive

sharp grail
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some crimes can never be forgiven

silver maple
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petition to rename mice rats

ionic viper
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oh my god the scroll click actually works again ;A;

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on my old mouse that died like a year ago and it has been killing me slowly ever since

silver maple
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scroll click good for scrolling through wikis too

sharp grail
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man i really need a new kbm, my old keyboard died and this secondhand one i got for free has barely functioning keys, especially the spacebar, and my mouse scrollwheel jumps back and forth... as a Gamer™ it makes everything harder fghjfjk

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my scroll click works luckily but not the scroll itself, it zips back and forth

silver maple
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you can get really good mice for super cheap if you keep an eye out

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They go on sale fairly often

sharp grail
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do you have any recommendations? for both keyboards and mice

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the only thing im looking for in a keyboard is volume buttons and preferably on the quiet side

silver maple
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I’m a big fan of my logitech g502 rn, it’s fairly pricy but often drops to around 30 and it is the MOST comfortable

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Mouse I should say

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I guess it depends if u like mechanical or not tho

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(For keyboards)

hexed hollow
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logitech g403 is pretty good for a mouse, fairly cheap but has less buttons than the 502

sharp grail
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ive... never had a mechanical keyboard myself

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woah the price variation on the g502

ionic viper
#

i can't make recommendations because these were.... Pricey

silver maple
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yeaaaaah haha. I’ve had mine for two years tho

hexed hollow
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yeah the price varience is huge

silver maple
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Served me well

sharp grail
#

i can buy it for 259 in one store and 690 in another

hexed hollow
#

I got mine a couple of years ago too

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it's served me well thus far

silver maple
#

if you’ve never used a mechanical though I suggest trying one out first because they can be a sort of acquired taste to get into

ionic viper
#

.....huh. my keyboard's not on the razer site any more

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............don't break any time soon lil guy.

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my keyboard's a razer deathstalker so it's got the little chiclet keycaps and honestly i don't think i'd be able to comfortably use a proper mechanical keyboard at this point

silver maple
#

yeah I can get that. Surprised the deathstalker isn’t on the site anymore

sharp grail
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my brother has one and ive used his before, im fine with both a regular and a mechanical one

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honestly anything is better than the one i have one

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its real bad

copper lark
#

byleth just killed a man

silver maple
#

it be like that sometimes

copper lark
#

i made dimitri too strong

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58% crit rate

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that’s higher than any unit i have

sharp grail
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This man breaks swords with his bare hands

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checks out

copper lark
#

he could probably snap me in half

ionic viper
#

so many unlocks,,

copper lark
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yeaah

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revenants toll is not only the best area in eorzea

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but also full of things to do

wide ember
#

apparently Dimitri's high Charisma stats makes him good for the dancer class unlock?

silver maple
#

oh, really? Makes sense I guess

copper lark
#

o w o

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what if you wanted to make supports with dimitri higher but god said “this unit cannot take part in this battle”

wide ember
#

you fight god

ionic viper
supple sleet
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I love that questline so hard.

ionic viper
#

listen after the emotional trauma thancred put me throughat the end of the main ARR questline

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i need this

supple sleet
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You really do xD

wide ember
#

I have never played that game and I wonder it’s because of same shoes

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now I have to play the game huh

supple sleet
#

You really do.

ionic viper
copper lark
#

hildebrand 😍😍😍

supple sleet
#

Did ya'll know that FFXIV has more concurrent subs than WoW has ever had at one time?

copper lark
#

oh heck

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god bless shadowbringers

supple sleet
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That was actually before ShB even.

ionic viper
#

huh. i figured it was more popular now but i didn't realise it was a historic thing

copper lark
#

maybe crystal data center can finally get their raid community back rooBooli

supple sleet
#

Holy crap, according to one article, WoW is currently at less than 1m subs.

ionic viper
#

i mean, i personally switched from wow to ffxiv, and i think a LOT of other people have done the same

hasty kernel
#

I don't think we have the FFXIV sub stats?

supple sleet
#

Well, WoW keeps going in directions that players hate, and FFXIV keeps improving.

hasty kernel
#

Also the only thing I heard is that FFXIV surpassed current wow, but not all-time

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Which is usually how it goes with the original

supple sleet
#

Actually, looking around, I might be misremembering, and it might be "total players" that FFXIV surpassed in.

hasty kernel
#

And yeah a lot of wow folks swapped to FFXIV. It's the closest of the big games

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And many of those who stick to wow really only do so because their friends play it

supple sleet
#

Yeah, I can't really imagine any other reason. When people move, it's usually like entire guilds at once.

ionic viper
#

i've mostly stuck to wow this long out of sheer stubbornness

copper lark
#

my mum plays wow bc she’s been playing it for as long as i’ve been alive and i think is too emotionally attached to cancel her sub

ionic viper
#

and then i realised the game wasn't fun to play any more and oops suddenly i'm

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i've been playing wow for ten years so that's almost half my life

copper lark
#

sparrow playing scholar may suck but the scholar quest line is g o o d

ionic viper
#

i'm trying my best to level scholar ;n;

hasty kernel
#

Yeah those are also common reasons

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... wait I've been playing league for 10 years now

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What the hell

supple sleet
#

Yeah Syd, I could see that. It would be hard to walk away from something that intrinsically connected to who you are as a person.

hasty kernel
#

League doesn't feel like a 10 year old game

wide ember
#

Those who played league or wow for 10 years can probably use it in their cv

supple sleet
#

lol

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Especially raid leaders.

hasty kernel
#

If only I was good enough at league

supple sleet
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"Managed teams of 30 unruly asshats"

wide ember
#

“10 year experience of teamwork in stressful yet dynamic environment”

hasty kernel
#

Highest I ever got was like top 1%

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I suppose you could call it experience in international communication

wide ember
#

“Good leadership under limited communication”

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*limited yet constant

hasty kernel
#

But I need the right tools

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Specifically the ? Ping

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Seriously you can communicate anything with the ? Ping

wide ember
#

Metalingual communication?

hasty kernel
#

That's a good way of putting it

ionic viper
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no no no

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the true means of mmo communication is the jump

hasty kernel
#

Oh and I can recognize curse words in all European language

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League doesn't have a jump

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We're limited

ionic viper
#

you haven't lived until you have had a conversation through jumping.

hasty kernel
#

True

supple sleet
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xD So true

wide ember
#

I really need to live then

supple sleet
#

Jumping and spinning around in place.

wide ember
#

heck my bird tried to jump and hop at me back then but I never jumped back

ionic viper
#

jumping and /wave

hasty kernel
#

Or waving your gun in FPS games

wide ember
#

Ok ff14 and jumping, wait for me

ionic viper
#

crouching, when that's available!

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also a very good choice!

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though do it too much and it. becomes rude,,

wide ember
#

don’t Granada espada or so@ethi g had the orz pose too

hasty kernel
#

It's less about the quantity and more about the speed

wide ember
#

...speed?

hasty kernel
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Of the crouch

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If you rapid crouch spam it's disrespect

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If you crouch and uncrouch over long periods of time you're a slav in-character

wide ember
#

jump, crouch, wave... is there another that I need to know before I start?

ionic viper
#

i mean, if it's ffxiv specifically, you can just talk to people. there's chat. the other stuff is just for games where there isn't a chat feature or, in wow, there's a faction barrier

hasty kernel
#

Or just if chat is too much work

ionic viper
#

also i have a Plan to rework my hotbars to accomodate my tiny, tiny hands

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bc i feel bad for not being able to comfortably reach past, say, 6

wide ember
#

Right the filter for speech of other factions

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Hence Kek instead of lol

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Use a game pad maybe

supple sleet
#

Oof, for FFXIV? No.

hasty kernel
#

I mean technically you're able to play FFXIV on a ps4

wide ember
#

I’m so confused but I guess ps4 would bypass my bad pc issue

hasty kernel
#

I'm not certain I would recommend it

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Certainly not if you don't have PS4 online anyway

copper lark
#

if you start playing on ps4 you’d certainly be adapted to it

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i have far too many skills to understand how someone would play on ps4

hasty kernel
#

From what Ive seen?

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Lots of smaller groups of skills

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And a lot of shifting

copper lark
#

also i fixed my issue with walking backwards in ffxiv

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i cant do it anymore bc i switched to legacy type camera

velvet fjord
#

late to the jumping conversation but I have a fun story about jumping in mmos

in LoTRO, there's an annual Month of the Chicken where players can turn into a chicken to complete certain quests, which involve travelling around to talk to animals
at the very end of the questline, you are given an 8 hour long quest that requires you to travel across all of Middle-Earth

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chickens can't communicate with regular players, so jumping is necessary in order to convey danger

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last year, the chickens decided to make the voyage to Mordor, which is normally incredibly dangerous because players take massive amounts of damage every second unless they have destroyed the Black Gate

turns out, chickens are immune to this damage

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so the chickens were just jumping around, trying to get the regular player escorts to come help them. they had forgotten about the damage, and the humans died

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the end

ionic viper
#

that's beautiful

tropic garden
#

i (m50s) was walked in on by my in-laws (f16, f25, f32) and their familiar while performing a necromancy ritual under the full moon. messed up a couple words and now not only is my corpse helper all backwards, but i'm super embarrassed.

supple sleet
#

Someone fed the upside down guy beans, and white hair guy just heard upside down guy say his name, with his butt.

ionic viper
#

fghkjfgk

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i feel like it's important to note that underpants man is actually dancing

cinder blaze
#

Looks more like he's saying "It wasn't me". xD Great scene.

velvet fjord
#

I thought he was doing jazz hands

copper lark
#

why is felix so mean

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sir please go to therapy

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SYLVAIN.

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“i don’t understand why she’s so upset about me dating other girls. she didn’t care before she found out so why does she care now”

cinder blaze
#

Ah, Sylvain of the "I will totes join this random stranger's class because random stranger's hot".

copper lark
#

i don’t know why i want to give him a hug and hit him at the same time

cinder blaze
#

XD That's valid.

copper lark
#

dimitri keeps talking about feeling guilty abt killing people and

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i’m not getting a good feeling from this

supple sleet
#

I'm picturing him about to burst into song Monty Python style.

copper lark
#

better than what i was thinking

serene tulip
#

@copper lark Dan and Arin's laughter is super cute at 1.5x speed

copper lark
#

i wanna know how you found this out but also

serene tulip
#

I watch some videos at 1.5x speed when the folks making them talk really slow or I'm in a rush

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I forgot to turn it back

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Because YouTube remembers

ionic viper
#

@serene tulip i'm curious, how were you getting the mgp for the arch demon horns you got in ffxiv?

serene tulip
#

And the challenge log

ionic viper
#

did you try the fashion report at all

serene tulip
#

Nope

ionic viper
#

rip

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you can get 60k mgp a week from that pretty easy depending on what the theme is

serene tulip
#

Yeah

ionic viper
#

i just did it and now i'm sitting here telling myself i don't really need a second pair of thigh high boots.

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but what if i got them anyway,,

serene tulip
#

Lol

ionic viper
#

oops i got them

silver maple
#

Y’all I got Mercedes on my team 🙌

copper lark
#

i got 30k mgp in a day from mini cactpot

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!!!

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how do i make mercedes more useful

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bc i hear she’s an awesome unit but right now she’s kinda useless to me

silver maple
#

she’s a really good white mage or gremory

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Better to make her a healer tho because she also heals herself

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Imo

copper lark
#

she’s my lowest level rn 😔 i’m sorry mercie

opaque quail
#

Yeah I think mages in 3H have a usefulness curve. Use her in battle, train her up, in lectures give her faith and reason training.

copper lark
#

WAIT no she’s not

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sylvain is my lowest level LOL

silver maple
#

their growths are particularly fast lol

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DO SYLVAIN DIRTY

copper lark
#

i love u sylvain but u suck rooFeels

silver maple
#

he doesn’t stand out enough to me and also he’s a garbage man

copper lark
#

garbage trash boy

silver maple
#

stinky. stinky garbage trash boy.

opaque quail
#

Wait no give him a chance. blobreachsob

copper lark
#

i really want to

silver maple
#

I have him on my team caitlin but only because he’s slightly better than lorenz lmaoooooo

copper lark
#

but

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i’m trying so hard to get hilda

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please i’m 6 months in now i just want her

opaque quail
#

I'm working on making him a holy knight right now. Definite tip here: always remember any class can use any weapon, but not every class lets you use magic, even if you know magic.

silver maple
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Oh, that’s right. Didn’t consider giving him magic cuz I just lanced him up

opaque quail
#

Really puts a pause on training up magic skills when you go to cavalier/paladin to train for horse skill. ablobsigh

silver maple
#

ALSO SYD I PUT HILDA IN HEAVY ARMOR AND SHES VERY GOOD

copper lark
#

i think. i might give him an axe

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I KNOW SHES SUCH A GOOD UNIT BUT I DONT HAVE HER HNNNG

opaque quail
#

I specifically worked to unlock every character's hidden skill thing. Aaaaa Hilda.... next playthrough. blobpensive

copper lark
#

i’m too attached to the blue lions i don’t think i could play as a different house

opaque quail
#

That's always the danger with me too in path-locked games.

ionic viper
#

golden deer 4 lyfe

opaque quail
#

I will hoooopefully be able to convince myself to do Golden Deer and Black Eagles buuuuuut...

ionic viper
#

black eagles is the route for people who are mean. >:C

copper lark
#

i don’t think i could ever do black eagles

silver maple
#

Wish I could get Hubert to be fair

ionic viper
#

i mean, it's the only route where ||claude can die|| so it's automatically the Worst™

severe plover
#

O what game is this?

silver maple
#

WHAT SPARROW

ionic viper
#

Fire Emblem: Three Houses

silver maple
#

NOOOOOO

ionic viper
#

YEAH

#

YEAH,,

severe plover
#

Ohh nice

copper lark
#

bernadetta and dorothea are the only people in black eagles i like ,,

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maybe ferdinand? is he in black eagles i really don’t know

silver maple
#

Yeah, rival to edelgard I think?

copper lark
#

“rival”

opaque quail
#

GOOD to know Sparrow thank you.

ionic viper
#

black eagles spoiler: ||you have to take down the leicester alliance in the black eagles route, and when it comes to defeating claude you can either spare him or kill him and it is HEARTBREAKING to hear him realise he guessed wrong about what you'd do, and his last words are telling edelgard he hopes she can "make the world better"||

opaque quail
#

I also heard that BE is the route most similar to Conquest in doing bad things for an ultimately good reason, but weeee'll see.

copper lark
#

hey now....

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hey now sparrow i don’t remember saying you could break my heart like this

silver maple
#

Just out of curiosity how did y’all ||beat the death knight cu that fight sucked||

ionic viper
#

black eagles does have a route split partway in where you can ||side with edelgard or side with the church||, but it is still pain

copper lark
#

||ive had 2 battle with the death knight and you don’t have to fight him||

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battles*

opaque quail
#

I beat him like 3/4 times, he's almost always optional. With no map movement, I'd just pile up my best units around him and then have them dive in.

sharp grail
#

I’ve never played a fire emblem game in my life but I like marianne. is that her name? The girl with the blue hair that needs some good sleep?

opaque quail
#

That's her!

copper lark
#

marianne! good girl

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i want her too but i’m trying to focus hilda rn

ionic viper
#

hey we have dimitri fans here yes?

copper lark
#

y

#

yes

opaque quail
#

Y e s

ionic viper
#

who would like a very dimitri song

sharp grail
#

see he was the next character I was going to mention

copper lark
opaque quail
ionic viper
copper lark
#

me

silver maple
#

Marianne’s supports seemed bad at first but they get so good....

copper lark
#

AHHH THAT SONG

ionic viper
#

for extra points: it's byleth singing

copper lark
#

that song HURTS me

severe plover
#

Is 3 houses the best one to start with?

ionic viper
#

You can reclaim your crown You're in control Rid of the monsters inside your head Put all your faults to bed You can be King again
GESTURES AT DIMITRI'S EVERYTHING

severe plover
#

Or is there another one I should pick up first

ionic viper
#

it's not a sequel to anything, if that's what you're wondering

copper lark
#

awakening is a good starter imo

opaque quail
#

Start with whichever piques your interest most! Though Awakening's system is simpler overall.

copper lark
#

fe: awakening is the final fantasy 15 of fire emblem

severe plover
#

Ok yeha I’m an Idiot Head so awakening sounds good if it’s simpler lmao ty

blissful charm
#

awakening is a pretty good starting point imo

silver maple
#

awakening is definitely the least intimidating

sharp grail
#

hi babs

blissful charm
#

👋

ionic viper
#

also guys i died in ffxiv for the sake of that song rec i hope you're happy

copper lark
#

F

sharp grail
#

I was thinking about you this entire conversation djdbjffn I know you like fe so I wondered when you’d show up

silver maple
#

But it’s also a 7 year old game and like full price still tbf

sharp grail
#

NOO...

opaque quail
#

Sparrow your sacrifice is appreciated.

blissful charm
#

lmf my fe senses tingled

sharp grail
severe plover
#

Oh yeah I just saw it was 30 bucks I’m Cryin lmao

silver maple
#

I need nitro for Gilman f

severe plover
#

Maybe my local shop will have it cheaper?

#

Hoping & praying

sharp grail
#

wow it’s 30 bucks?

silver maple
#

Could be!

severe plover
#

Yeahh

sharp grail
#

fsr I thought it would be 60

severe plover
#

It’s Pricey

sharp grail
#

That’s.... good at least.... lies down on floor

severe plover
#

Shgsgs oh no id never buy anything at 60 full offense

opaque quail
#

Awakening was the FE game that helped it hit WAY bigger in the US so I'm not too surprised it's held strong.

blissful charm
#

also i think awakening is good bc it has a pretty decent story and tbh most fe stories are pretty bland

severe plover
#

Havagsga YEHA U RIGHT @sharp grail

copper lark
#

i’ll never forget u stahl

sharp grail
#

I’ve bought like one game at 60 ever

severe plover
#

Oo what game I would never lmao

sharp grail
#

overwatch

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I preordered it like a couple hours before launch

severe plover
#

I waited a month to buy shovel knight my favorite game for like 2 bucks cheaper so

opaque quail
#

I'm a full price gremlin. If a game come out... I need gaem.

severe plover
#

Damb im just broke lmao I couldn’t

copper lark
#

can u imagine preordering fallout 76 for £60 then it comes out and two weeks later it’s £10

severe plover
#

I waited for Pyre to go on sale even tho everyone told me I’d love it it’s that bad

#

I WOULD DIE

copper lark
#

that was almost me

opaque quail
#

Pre-orders can perish.

sharp grail
#

I’m the opposite, I barely buy at full price

severe plover
#

Fax!

copper lark
#

but i played the beta and knew better

silver maple
#

Preordered no man’s sky at 60 😔

severe plover
#

F

copper lark
#

F

sharp grail
#

F

severe plover
#

Pressing f to pay respects is the funniest and most universal goof ever I love it

silver maple
#

it’s good now I guess but def an F

ionic viper
#

bought mass effect andromeda at release and it runs like a slideshow so i haven't played it

severe plover
#

Maybe not most universal but u get it

sharp grail
#

I preordered overwatch and pyre

severe plover
#

Reasonable choices

tropic garden
#

i stan mass effect andromeda actually

sharp grail
#

and that’s like, it, I’m pretty sure

opaque quail
#

We are all Bought Hype Game to be Disappointed

severe plover
#

Fax

opaque quail
#

Regrettably, ven,

tropic garden
#

and no man's sky is apparently pretty good now

ionic viper
#

i mean, i'm not saying it's a bad game

severe plover
#

At launch it wasn’t tho lmao

silver maple
#

yeah but it’s also like $15 regularly

tropic garden
#

i mean for sure

severe plover
#

I could never pre order unless I Knew I’d Love It For Fact and even then

ionic viper
#

i'm saying i'm mad that i spent a buttload of money, at a time when i didn't have a lot of money, for a game it then turned out i couldn't run without spending another few hundred pounds on pc upgrades

severe plover
#

Oof

opaque quail
#

I don't think Andromeda was anywhere near bad enough for the reception it got, but it's definitely another dev-trial-by-fire situation.

silver maple
#

yeah that sucks sparrow

severe plover
#

Hey what’s the f10 emoji btw I’ve never understood

copper lark
#

i preordered kh3 and while i’m happy that i did it it was not worth £70 for the deluxe edition

sharp grail
#

F10 is the bug report button for hades

tropic garden
#

gotta love that hype culture and publisher pressure on devs to deliver an impossible amount of content in a ridiculous timeframe

silver maple
#

Same caitlin, the animation wasn’t great and open world felt forced but honestly it wasn’t bad

severe plover
#

OH LMAO ok

opaque quail
#

All for the permanent price point of $60 that people don't want to pay, some because of cost and some because of principle.

severe plover
#

Thank u

tropic garden
#

a lot of the issues me:a had were the same as dragon age inquisition had

severe plover
#

I am reported as bug as it should be

tropic garden
#

the glitches looked really similar

#

lots of frostbite-caused problems

opaque quail
#

All for the permanent price point of $60 that people don't want to pay, some because of cost and some because of principle.

severe plover
#

Thank u

ionic viper
#

hey did y'all read the article that covered the complete and utter trash fire that was anthem

tropic garden
#

hahaha

copper lark
#

lmaoooo

tropic garden
#

yeah

severe plover
#

Oo send a link

#

I adore Trash Fires which is why I’m such a big fan of myself B)

#

Hee Hee

opaque quail
#

I talked to a guy at Gencon about the industry pay issues and talked about "and they can't raise price for the work" and he was like "oh I'd NEVER pay more than $60 ever they can't make me"

ionic viper
sharp grail
#

man, is anthem like, out?

silver maple
#

I watched the polygon video about the necessary steps anthem had to take

opaque quail
#

Lmao.... yes. Many months ago.

severe plover
#

Oh I love polygon

tropic garden
#

anthem Been Out

ionic viper
#

i think most people looked at it and went "but i'd rather play destiny" and then went and Did That

sharp grail
#

.....oh..

severe plover
#

Also hfmdbgs am I contributing to bad vg worker pay by buying things on sale heck

silver maple
#

It sucked because I thought I’d move to it from destiny but nah

tropic garden
#

yeah i saw the reveal and was like "looks boring" and didn't think about it again

opaque quail
#

Don't take what I said as pointed! The game price thing is just ONE way to approach industry issues.

silver maple
#

The e3 trailer was hype but that’s industry

severe plover
#

Hm ok

sharp grail
#

People just heard it had no romance and went “that’s a hard no”

severe plover
#

Bc im all abt better wages but also I earn 7.50 an hour so Hooh

opaque quail
#

The more in-depth way is tackling overtime issues and wrangling the infinite scope/requirements of publishers versus the actual capabilities of dev teams.

silver maple
#

A BioWare game with no smooching?????

severe plover
#

Valid!

opaque quail
#

You can't pay your devs all their overtime? You can't have a game that's big enough to require it then.

silver maple
#

crunch is a problem I’m glad sgg is handling

serene tulip
#

I pre-ordered starcraft ghost.

tropic garden
#

yeah i wish games were just...............smaller

#

most of the time.

sharp grail
#

god same

ionic viper
#

presses F on the world's BIGGEST keyboard

silver maple
#

Dang, that’s a pull oce

tropic garden
#

especially since a lot of the extra content is usually flat time-wasters anyways

sharp grail
#

I seriously do not understand the need for every game to be like a bajillion hours

silver maple
#

yeah

tropic garden
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it's a play-hours-per-dollar value impression

sharp grail
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I enjoy my little bite sized games the most

tropic garden
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by selling a 200 hour game for $60 you give the impression of better value

silver maple
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I don’t want to grind for 80 hours and call that the game

copper lark
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DIMITRI IS SCARING ME

sharp grail
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Yeah I get that I guess but I wish it wasn’t that way yknow

copper lark
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it’s too early to go feral dimitri stop rooBooli

silver maple
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dimitri was born a little feral

opaque quail
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Well he wasn't maybe born feral but... it evolved pretty early.... 😬

copper lark
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i’m at the uh

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the village

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where the thing is happening

opaque quail
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HEY fun side note, if you get to Professor level A and cultivate the greenhouse plants, the last thing you can use is "spread pegasus blessings" lmao.

silver maple
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LOL

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“Blessings”

opaque quail
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At some point I started thinking about game cost vs entertainment hours in comparison with movie cost vs entertainment hours?

sharp grail
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YEAH

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I was just about to say

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I think about this all the time

opaque quail
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In California you basically pay at least $12 on a movie that's maybe two hours.

silver maple
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But the thing is they need to be hours where you’re having fun

severe plover
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Right ^

ionic viper
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that's exactly it

opaque quail
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If we went by the same experiential scale for games, you'd only need to achieve 10 hours of Fun for a $60 game

severe plover
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I’d rather a game be short and good than long and bad

ionic viper
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also @copper lark i think i'm about to meet The Boy aka g'raha tia

sharp grail
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I just bought the entire zero escape trilogy for cheaper than a movie ticket price on steam. That’s kinda nuts

copper lark
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OWO

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my boy!!!!

opaque quail
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If you pay like $6 for a movie that changes, but not by a ton, being 20 instead of 10 hours.

silver maple
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Edith Finch is one of those games where I felt I enjoyed the entire thing even though it was relatively short

severe plover
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If it was 10 hours of Schlock I’d be miserable but like, for good content? Nice

copper lark
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g’raha is wonderful but i want to hit him

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gently

silver maple
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it’s about content quality too

severe plover
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Oh is Edith finch the one w,, the fish thing

opaque quail
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It Sure Is

severe plover
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I feel like I’d enjoy it but I accidentally watched it all on lets plays lmao

sharp grail
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gris is a short game but I loved every second

serene tulip
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I feel like part of the experiential thing is that it's at a theater and its "earlier" than online streaming

ionic viper
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i would also like to hit him gently.

sharp grail
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It all fit together so beautifully

ionic viper
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on the face.

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with my face.

serene tulip
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It's a much better comparison to look at the rental rates for movies on Google play and whatnot.

silver maple
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what I’m saying is you also have to consider whether ur watching emoji movie or into the spider verse lmao

copper lark
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LISTEN when u meet him you’ll see what i mean sparrow

ionic viper
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....i realise this makes it sound like i want to headbutt him

copper lark
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he’s very. excitable?

severe plover
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I generally have to assume I’ll like a movie to see it in theaters otherwise I’ll pirate r bc im bad lmao

ionic viper
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listen it's okay he just needs a while to chill out

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maybe a couple hundred years

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it's fine

copper lark
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g’raha is the polar opposite to ||the exarch||

severe plover
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Unless it’s a small film but triple a films I feel less bad about

copper lark
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JUST A COUPLE HUNDRED YEARS

ionic viper
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IT'S NBD

severe plover
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I’m all for people getting paid but I’m Not Paid Well So

hasty kernel
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Honestly anthem looked intriguing

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I've always had the issue with looter shooters were enemy design is rather lacking, especially in the case of warframe

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And anthem was promising in that regard

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Can't say I'm surprised about it's development though

silver maple
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Personally I think destiny’s enemy design is good but there’s not too much variety

hasty kernel
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Yeah Destiny is better, but the lack of variety is killer

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It's like, good gameplay only does so much if you can't fully utilize it

silver maple
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yeah that’s fair

hasty kernel
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I guess making good enemies is just too much effort/cost to make many different ones

silver maple
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Especially when you know your players are probably gonna spend 60 hours killing them anyways

hasty kernel
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True

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Though Monster Hunter and clones, and Phantasy Star Portable managed

blissful charm
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hey i have a question: does a cocoa almond cookie sound appealing?

tardy anchor
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maybe im just Hongry but. very much

ionic viper
copper lark
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this is a g'raha tia love zone

serene tulip
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There's a pigeon that likes to hang out near where I like to drink coffee

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And it has a lame leg

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And I feel like I should name it something since it's so distinctive.

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And it's very brave

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I'm thinking Haephestus.

upbeat scroll
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Ahhh, vulcan

faint panther
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This is not the greatest siege in the world, this is just a trebuchet *sing*

supple sleet
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@serene tulip My cat's name is Purrseus. 😛 Haephestus is great for a lame pigeon tho.

hasty kernel
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Just FYI it's Hephaestus

supple sleet
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Nobody likes the grammar/spelling police. If it's not an academic paper, keep your edits to yourself.

hasty kernel
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I mean, if you're gonna use it as a name Id argue spelling is kinda important

supple sleet
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It's a pigeon. And this isn't the first time you've corrected people.

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It's rude.

hasty kernel
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It's a bad habit, I know

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Sorry

supple sleet
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It's fine, we all have them.

hasty kernel
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Also, apparently that name is not pronounced the way I thought it was

supple sleet
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Sorry for being so abrupt about it.

hasty kernel
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Actually, how is a ē pronounced?

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It's like the ee in see apparently?

ionic viper
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if we could perhaps not call people nazis that would be fantastic

supple sleet
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Fair.

ionic viper
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i can't believe that's a sentence i had to type today but there we go.

hasty kernel
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So the Greek pronunciation would be heephaistos

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Always thought it was just hephaistos

supple sleet
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No, you're right, especially in the current climate, Sparrow. Sorry.

hasty kernel
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Wack

ionic viper
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👌

supple sleet
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But when you've used that term for 30 years it just slips out. Doesn't excuse it, though.

ionic viper
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anyways. the idea of the first e in hephaestus being a long e is.............. bad i don't like it

hasty kernel
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Also on that, what's the etymological origin of ae being pronounced just e?

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Yeah I agree, but that's what the wiki told me

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Because in German it's obvious, ae is the ä Umlaut so words written as eventually just became ä

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But why did something similar happen in English?

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Like Caesar

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Why did it end up being pronounced the way it is instead of Kaiser/caiser?

supple sleet
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Because peasants, probably.

hasty kernel
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I guess but even if you didn't know the origin, wouldn't you naturally pronounce ae as ai?

supple sleet
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I mean, some accents pronounce things so dramatically off that it totally corrupts what it should be.

hasty kernel
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Yeah, but this seems language-wide

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It must have happened a long time ago and spread across everything

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I might have to look into this, it's fascinating

tropic garden
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after a bit of googling, it looks like the sound shifts happened in vulgar latin

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first the ae became e, at which point the natural tendency of c before i and e to be pronounced as "s" kicked in

hasty kernel
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Huh

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Neat

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That means the German morphing actually was totally independent

supple sleet
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So... peasants. xD

hasty kernel
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Well vulgar Latin was spoken by pretty much anyone iirc

tropic garden
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different languages have different morphological shifts, yeah

hasty kernel
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Cool

tropic garden
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most romance languages headed for "s" but italian and romanian went for "tch"

hasty kernel
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And the only places the written form survived was in titles of regents

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Like Kaiser

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Also that reminds me of the debate about how Cicero was pronounced

tropic garden
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english borrows from the romance "s" (see "cichlid" for example) so the natural inclination is to say sihsuhro

hasty kernel
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Yeah, and Italians say tchitchero afaik

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But as for how it was pronounced in Latin, it's apparently not clear

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Might've been Keekero, might've been the Italian tchitchero

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Isn't language fascinating and/or incomprehensible

copper lark
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i need a new twitter header

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thats fire emblem themed but

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i cant find one

silver maple
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love ur Hilda icon

hasty kernel
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Just make it new Chandra's +1

copper lark
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ty

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its the frog lesbian flag

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becaueesde i am f r go lesbain

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ribbit

hasty kernel
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Frog?

copper lark
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yes

hasty kernel
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I don't get it

copper lark
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thats ok

severe plover
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Hi I love very specific flags that’s iconic

copper lark
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frog lesbians rise up

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[singularly puts my hand up]

severe plover
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Hsgsgsva Nice & Powerful

copper lark
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WAIT who should i make a dancer

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i m,,, gonna make flayn a dancer

ionic viper
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back again with Final Fashion Fantasy 14 who wants to see my red mage outfit

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tough i'm showing it off anyway

copper lark
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||jeraLT????||

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FIRE EMBLEM SPOILERS

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||JERALT NO!!!||

ionic viper
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: )

copper lark
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||WHAT ???? NO HEART BEAT??? WHAT ????? WHAT ????||

ionic viper
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: )

copper lark
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||YO if i see monica again i WILL beat her up||

ionic viper
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:D

copper lark
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this is not okay.

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who wrote this game i have words

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||my mother was HER WHAT||

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THIS IS A BRUH MOMENT

north hamlet
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That's a really nice red mage suit

ionic viper
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i had to get the gloves crafted through the equivalent of facebook stalking someone

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i'm so fancy now.

buoyant frigate
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Ooooo I love it

faint panther
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Who's ready for some Smash nerdery?

cedar rock
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lets go hbox

faint panther
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No heck Hbox.

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(I wanted Zain to win)

cedar rock
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hes gotta smash leffen

faint panther
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Big Leff.

serene tulip
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It's not rivals of aether so I don't care.

copper lark
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The only smash player i know is ex osu player chippy

faint panther
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I was looking at Discord and I missed Leffen taking the first stock in about 7 seconds.

serene tulip
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I actually played in a rivals of aether tournament and got knocked out in the second round

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Played Fullstream

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Third round, I actual won one.

buoyant frigate
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Opinion: should I try Sailor Moon or Adventure Time tonight

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Vote now on ur phones

faint panther
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The chunkiest Leffen.

copper lark
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ADVENTURE TIME!!!

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i have so much love for adventure time

north hamlet
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Sailor moon, but only because I'm a weeb and haven't seen adventure time

buoyant frigate
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It’s a tiiiieeeee
I’ll watch a B99 while I make my decision...

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Adventure Time won’t have any ads tho so I can cover like 5 eps in an hour

knotty shale
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Adventure Time is good fun. But also B99 is amazing so definitely do that.

faint panther
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I gotta say, I like B99 much more than Adventure Time.

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I've never seen an episode of Sailor Moon, though.

buoyant frigate
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I only have 1 episode left of B99 haha

faint panther
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FLCL seasons 2 and 3.

serene tulip
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Adventure time

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Come on grab your friends

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And go to very distant lands

buoyant frigate
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The votes are in, it turns out there was another episode of B99. Adventure Time will come next

serene tulip
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For the record, the show evolves over its lifespan

buoyant frigate
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As any good show does hehe

copper lark
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i am so mad

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||i got to chapter 10 and defeated the lady but i lost everyone except dimitri and i was so excited and theresa PHASE 2?????||

copper lark
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dorothea best girl

stone quartz
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where is general chat if it exists 😃

north hamlet
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this one probably

analog spear
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no, this is ff14 chat

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❤ syd

north hamlet
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u right

copper lark
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:3

sly stump
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Oh nooo rip

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@copper lark have you done dedue's paralogue

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Inquiring minds need to know

copper lark
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i haven’t. don’t any of them please don’t hurt me

sly stump
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D:

copper lark
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i hate doing side battles T_T i’m sorry

sly stump
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Oh please do dedue's

copper lark
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i’ll probably watch them all on youtube

sly stump
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There's ... somethin happens if you don't

copper lark
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i’ve just hit the-

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OH NO

sly stump
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SORRY PROXY

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OH NO T_T

copper lark
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AM I SCREWED

sly stump
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Well

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||dedue is|| but you havent like broken the game or anything

copper lark
#

NOOO

sly stump
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It's just huge :(

copper lark
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NO I LOVE HIM THO

sly stump
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YEAH HES SO GOOD T_T

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F ...

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Do u have like ... a save you could load without redoing a huge chunk of the game

copper lark
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no ,,,,,,

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my last save is on chapter 7

sly stump
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Hhhhhhhhhh im sorry D:

copper lark
#

oh please god why have i done this to myself

north hamlet
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there's no other solution

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you have to start again

copper lark
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please i’m 20 hours in

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i cant

north hamlet
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20 hours is nothing

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you play ffxiv

sly stump
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How many hours is chapter 7-timeskip ...

copper lark
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i don’t know but

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||chapter 12 is the timeskip chapter||

sly stump
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have you already hit it or do you still have time to squeeze it in?

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no wait you just said you hit it

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nevermind i'm a fool

copper lark
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yeah ..

sly stump
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... hhhh

copper lark
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i’m so mad i didn’t know they were important

sly stump
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neither did i until like

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last night

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when i was reading the wiki and someone had added that detail to dedue's page

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and i immediately went (screaming reaction image)

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wait i'm gonna google this more

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as far as i know that's the only one that has major plot consequences but that seems ... weird

copper lark
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dimitri.... why does he keep talking about rats

sly stump
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no yeah it does seem like ||if you didn't do the paralogue he died :(||