off-topic-discussion

[sharp grail]

just green

[copper lark]

SHES VERY PRETTY

[cedar rock]

thank you so much for the green

[serene tulip]

you know what sucks: when you'r ehalfway through a puzzle and the universe explodes

[copper lark]

i just made a little sister for my main

shes so cute

[hasty kernel]

Oh, that one

Yeah the quantum stuff is fun

Also the only time I have been jumpscared by a rock

[serene tulip]

did you ever manage to land on that station orbiting the sun?

[hasty kernel]

Hm

Well, that station will come up more in the lore later

Its technically possible to fly to it, yes

Its even an achievement

But its really, really hard and Im not sure I would do it before finding out what the station itself is

[cedar rock]

i tried for a while and could never get it

[hasty kernel]

Same

Thats the one issue I had with the game

[serene tulip]

I've bounced off of it once

[hasty kernel]

The space controls are jank as hell

[serene tulip]

I'm pretty sure the best way to do it would be by orbital rendezvous rather than trying to fly directly at it like literally everything else in the game

[hasty kernel]

Mmh

I wouldnt recommend doing it for now though

[serene tulip]

autopilot got me killed 😦

[hasty kernel]

Yeah it uh, does that

The NPC when you wake up even has a line for it

Well

If you talk to him

[serene tulip]

I managed to jump off ember twin and land in the sun

[hasty kernel]

Thats ... impressive

[serene tulip]

I mean

the sun helps 😛

[hasty kernel]

Im just surprised because the gravity isnt that low

[copper lark]

SOMETHING JUST HAPPENED IN THE STORY

i need hug

[analog spear]

(Hug)

[copper lark]

T_T

[serene tulip]

I ATE SOME RAISINS AND NOW I FEEL SO MUCH MORE CAPABLE OF LEARNING

LIKE 3% MORE

[copper lark]

i-

thats how the food bonus in ffxiv workshjfdshgiufdjgfdbhfgd

[hasty kernel]

Raisin your learning stat I see

[chilly briar]

that doesn't sound like a grape time

[copper lark]

these puns are really

dried out

.......

ouch caitlin

[serene tulip]

I hate that I can accept quests that I can't turn in

"oh cool I slayed all those things you want, now I guess I'll just wait until I'm level 15 to give you these fangs huh.

[ionic viper]

oh yeah i had that happen

i was just like “well fine then, gimme a sec” and switched to another class i was also levelling

[copper lark]

That,,, happens?

they fix that later

[serene tulip]

god damn

I hit level 15 and do that one dungeon

sastasha

and now I'm 18

I have a new phone case

its purple

[upbeat scroll]

solid color phone case?

[serene tulip]

yeah

although its the same brand as my last one

its more metalic and less grippy than it and I'm a bit disappointed

[upbeat scroll]

grippy and maybe shock absorbent is all i want in a case

[serene tulip]

😄

I got 3 player commendations

[copper lark]

!!! good job

[serene tulip]

yeah, I'm really enjoying tank a lot more than DPS

Allows me to mama bear all my squishies

and also run in head first

[upbeat scroll]

"piss everyone off" class is fun to play in PVE games

[copper lark]

dragoon

[copper lark]

i just started crying while thinking about zack fair ff7

i miss him

[hasty kernel]

Shame the bullets didnt

[copper lark]

YOU

[hasty kernel]

Nyehehehehehe

[copper lark]

why would you do this to me

[upbeat scroll]

i thought this was about a real person for a second

that would be a really mean spirited joke if it wasn't about fictional character

[hasty kernel]

Mainly because I breathe bad puns

[upbeat scroll]

gamerpinion: if a multiplayer game can last more than 2 hours, there should be a 15 minute intermission in the middle

[north hamlet]

In my experience most aren't designed to last that long so it wouldn't be needed for 99% of games

If a game was intended to take 2 or more hours then including a break is definitely a good idea

[upbeat scroll]

yeah this is kinda a niche problem

[faint panther]

What game?

[hasty kernel]

Yeah that would be fair. I assume it's a rts?

[nova pilot]

Civ takes easily more than 2 hours

But that’s definitely breakable

[hasty kernel]

Well unless huns are involved

They can win much faster

[copper lark]

replaying kh3

i love sora so much

[analog spear]

I’m a good ways in to monster hunter world and I’m having a great time

I think it passes destiny 2 as my favorite mmorpg ish game

[somber ferry]

my coworkers are trying to get me into ultimate on switch actually!!

i haven't actually opened the game yet but i want to play as one of the cats

[hasty kernel]

Oh yeah isnt Destiny 2 going F2P?

[serene tulip]

Who needs ultimate play Rivals of aether

[hasty kernel]

They meant Monster Hunter ultimate I think

[north hamlet]

I think so too

[somber ferry]

yep, i meant monster hunter

we have an entire monster hunter channel in slack haha

[north hamlet]

The felynes are always the best part

In some of the older games they dance around you while you carry a torch

Really handy for the ones that steal your stuff

[hasty kernel]

I just remember the cooking animation in Freedom 2 being funny

[analog spear]

Also I do play rivals of aether

[serene tulip]

God I love meowscular chef

He's my patronus rn

[north hamlet]

Best character in the whole series

Change my mind

[analog spear]

Beetle from insect glaive

Best character

Handler worst character change my mind

@hasty kernel destiny 2 went free to play but didn’t give the people who payed for the game anything

They changed the model tho, so some things that didn’t require dlc do now

Including my favorite game mode, iron banner

Also the dlc supers are basically objectively better

[hasty kernel]

Mmh

Well, guess I wont play it then

I was kinda considering it as a Warframe with actually good enemy design

[analog spear]

I’m mostly talking from a pvp stance tho

So if your looking for pve give it a try

[hasty kernel]

I was probably gonna play a bit of PvP as well actually

Mmh

Ill see, depends how well I can run it

I did play the SAO looter shooter (mainly because it was made by the Freedom Wars devs and I like hookshots) and that was reasonably fun even if there wasnt enough enemy variety

[analog spear]

I’m mostly salty because the pvp was ruined after forsaken

One shot weapon ammo that gets refilled on respawn was a mistake

So was buffing supers when they needed a nerf

Most people seem to like the changes tho so you might enjoy it more then I did

[hasty kernel]

Honestly I dont like when decent games are made in an IP I despise

Damn you SAO

Perhaps

Again, Ill have to check if I can run it, my PC is pretty weak

Looks like my Processor is just below minimum req

[analog spear]

ah dread

I was bad in articulating so I'm just going to rephrase

Destiny 2 pvp is good

but it used to be incredible

[hasty kernel]

Fair enough, I wont be able to run it anyway though

Plus I dont have the drive space for it

[analog spear]

yea its a big boi

[serene tulip]

Mornin'

I played D1 for like, 4 hours

so I might try d2 after f2p but I don't really see it going that far

[serene tulip]

should I come back in another life I think I would enjoy being a bird: https://i.imgur.com/lIr142L.mp4

[desert swallow]

Big mood

[serene tulip]

Birb 1 is like, "lol this is fun"
Birb 2 is like, "Wtf...... wat r u doin?"

[serene tulip]

Ugh

I don't want to do anything rn

[north hamlet]

Do you have anything you need to do now?

[serene tulip]

define now

I have a few things I need to do Today

but nothing that needs doing Now

https://old.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/cgru5j/love_me_little_one/

[serene tulip]

Y'all hyped for season 4 of The Expanse? https://youtu.be/kNIim3xqsEU

because I'm hyped

There's also this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LrZiNOvp_c

[hasty kernel]

God, hitting people with sniper shots for almost all their health is fun

I didnt know this was an MMO experience I was lacking

[serene tulip]

"Oh hey I just got given some new sick armor, time to spend 200 gil to dye it purple

[hasty kernel]

You have to pay to dye armour?

[faint panther]

Oceloctopus, the books are my favorite series, possibly ever.

One of my chefs from school loves the tv series, next time I pop in I'll have to ask.

[serene tulip]

@faint panther I like to tell people that I haven't been this excited about a book series since harry potter, and I grew up with that

[faint panther]

Saaame.

[serene tulip]

Omg biggs and wedge

I forgot about them

[ionic viper]

@serene tulip i feel that, i started just carrying rust red dye around to save myself the hassle

@serene tulip i feel that, i started just carrying rust red dye around to save myself the hassle

I Must Wear Red

[serene tulip]

woo

my gladiator has caught up with my lancer now

wait I'm technically a gladiatrix

or my character is

[ionic viper]

this is how my levels looked when i logged off earlier

i did gladiator 1-31 in like a day and a bit and got pugilist up to 19 in the process

💪

[serene tulip]

oh, gladiator turns into paladin?

[ionic viper]

yeah

at level 30 each base class gets a quest that upgrades it

gladiator > paladin
marauder > warrior
pugilist > monk
lancer > dragoon
rogue > ninja
conjurer > white mage
archer > bard
thaumaturge > black mage
arcanist > scholar & summoner

[serene tulip]

shame they didn't do the tactics job thing where you need x of job a and y of job b to get job c

[ionic viper]

arcanist is the only one that upgrades into two classes but they both level at the same time bc they’re both linked to arcanist

also that system sounds like hell

[serene tulip]

😛

[ionic viper]

i don’t want to be forced to level a different class to upgrade the one i already have

[serene tulip]

well, its not that you're upgrading one class

its that you're moving into another one

that has prerequisites

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/5/51/FFT-Job-Tree.png/revision/latest?cb=20121027063905

[ionic viper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i like the way ffxiv does it

[upbeat scroll]

all paths lead to mime

mime is the supreme being

:mime:

[serene tulip]

I wish it were easier to upgrade crafting/gathering

upgrading combat dudes is just, "Lol, gonna do some dungones, gonna get xp"

[ionic viper]

i got botanist to 35 and you could probably do a time lapse of my soul leaving my body

[serene tulip]

Levemetes have quests for gathering and stuff

I'm gonna see how well they do

but... not right now

[copper lark]

as soon as i really want a house i’ll do crafting gathering

right now i only need the gil for clothes

[ionic viper]

levemetes are absolutely the way to go

also don’t neglect the hunting log, that’s a lot of good exp too

[hasty kernel]

Botanist dungeons

Botanic gardens which you run through, handling each plant 1 by 1

[copper lark]

it’d just be trees in ffxiv

:c

[hasty kernel]

Timbers Paradise then

Its just a Canadian forest plopped in the middle of FFXIV

Also drops special lumberjack plaid armour

[copper lark]

that is a think actually

thing *

[wide ember]

donning it unlocks the werebeaver mode

[serene tulip]

You've played too much don't starve

[hasty kernel]

Ive never played Dont Starve

[copper lark]

it’s good

i’m a baby though it scares me

wendy

[blissful charm]

hey has anyone here seen hilda?

the cartoon on netflix

[tropic garden]

i watched several episodes a while back! didn't finish it though

[blissful charm]

i just finished it and im like damb i want more

[tropic garden]

yeah it was really good! i stopped watching bc i got distracted and lost momentum, not bc it wasn't good gkfjgd

i should rewatch it

[copper lark]

it’s very good

it made me cry

[blissful charm]

oh i cried like every episode

[serene tulip]

THank you for informing me that I shouldn't watch it 😛

[copper lark]

it’s good tears

[serene tulip]

psh

I just don't like opening up emotionally

not just feeling sad

I gotta provide Some red flags for people who would date me

[blissful charm]

it's not sad or anything it just has the gentleness that makes me cry. ghibli movies do the same thing

[copper lark]

yeah

every time i watch kikis delivery service i cry

but also it’s my favourite movie of all time and i kin kiki

[serene tulip]

I saw a person with a mount that was a giant cactaur with like, ornaments

where do I get that?

[copper lark]

probably a event mount

story mounts aren’t that cool

unless it’s at the golden saucer

in which it’ll probably cost a lot of gambling

[serene tulip]

I now posess a whistle to summon Ocelocobo

[wide ember]

Why don’t we have chocobo/horse claw in real life (yet)

[serene tulip]

They rejected my proposal to breed ostritches into chocobos

[copper lark]

i’ve started playing pokemon go again

because my dad is like. over level 40 or something and my whole family plays it and i feel left out

[hasty kernel]

Question

Has he made pokemon dad jokes yet?

[copper lark]

my dad ,,, doesn’t do dad jokes that much tbh

[hasty kernel]

Well, he will eeveentually

[copper lark]

wowww

[hasty kernel]

Admit it, that got a shuckle out of you

[serene tulip]

omg

when I jump my chocobo does an adorable wing flap

[copper lark]

chocobo is cute what did you name it

[hasty kernel]

Are there any aquatic chocobo mounts?

[copper lark]

yuh

all mounts work in the air and underwater

you can’t swim on surface with any mount

[hasty kernel]

Well then I suggest calling it "Chocoboat"

[copper lark]

i wish i could regularly swim with a mount

[hasty kernel]

Imagine being able to drift on water with a mount

[copper lark]

i just want to use my behemoth as a raft please mr yoshi p

[hasty kernel]

Oh wait I dont have to :P

[copper lark]

k

[hasty kernel]

Wait a second, Behemoth?

[copper lark]

yoship is doing blessings for me but please god

[hasty kernel]

As in the Ganon-beast-looking thing?

[copper lark]

yea

[hasty kernel]

Huh

[copper lark]

@ square enix please let me see my behemoth doggy paddle

he’s been a good boy and he deserves a swim

underwater in ffxiv is fun because

[serene tulip]

@copper lark Ocelocobo

[copper lark]

ohhhh creative

my boy is called arnie

[hasty kernel]

Hm

Could you name it ChocoBobobo-bo Bo-bobo

[serene tulip]

is "Kitten" a slur for Miqo'te?

it feels like it should be

I want to yell at Aldis for using it

[copper lark]

no but savage is!

[hasty kernel]

Counterpoint:

Miqo'te can use "youve gotta be kitten me"

That alone negates its power as a slur

[copper lark]

call my girl a savage and she’ll scream at you :3c

[hasty kernel]

The only reason to become catboy

Unlimited pun power

[copper lark]

i’ve discussed eorzean slurs with a friend of mine

it’s v interesting to talk abt world stuff like that

[serene tulip]

Oof

I keep on getting asked to reply stuff that I haven't been reading anything about

does the gladiator guildleader need aldis, who knows, I haven't been paying attention

[copper lark]

it’s okay you don’t need to pay attention to ARR until like

2.8

oh that’s not even story whoops

the class quests don’t matter either at first tbh

[hasty kernel]

Hm

Is SWTOR any good?

[copper lark]

lol who

[hasty kernel]

Star Wars the Old Republic

Its an MMO

Its one of the few sci fi ones, so

[serene tulip]

my new armor has a built in hat that it wont let me disappear 😦

[copper lark]

ohhh no it’s not good

also??? wut

[hasty kernel]

Did you play it before?

[serene tulip]

the hide/display headgear button doesn't work because the helmet is built into the chest piece

[copper lark]

maybe it’s not my thing but i played a bit and didn’t like it

that?? shouldn’t happen oce what

what’s the armour called

[serene tulip]

Heavy Iron Armor

[copper lark]

god the companion app is awful

[serene tulip]

I'm gonna try glamoring it?

[copper lark]

OH that sucks i’m sorry

yeah good idea

i dun like the goggles on my robe atm but,,, sigh

shadowbringers armour is all ugly

[serene tulip]

I'm so purple now 😄

You know those Miqo'te dancers in Ul'dah?

Do you know where I can get that dance?

[copper lark]

erm

i dont think you can

also ew ul’dah

i’m in the mood to write fanfic but i dunno who for

[hasty kernel]

Gumshoe

[copper lark]

lol no

hnnnnnng i’m gonna write zack/aerith

[hasty kernel]

You know how many fanfics use song titles as titles?

You could use one of Bon Jovis

"Shot through the heart"

[copper lark]

ovven i’m gonna lose my marbles

ZACK MIGHT BE ALIVE IN FF7R

i’m not gonna give up hope

[hasty kernel]

Well, as they say, hope dies last

Or in the case of Crisis Core, Zack does

[copper lark]

stop itttt

[hasty kernel]

Alright

[copper lark]

zack in kingdom hearts is the one we can shoot

[hasty kernel]

Unfortunately Zacks name doesnt lend itself to death puns

I had a lot of fun teasing a mate about a character called "Iblee"

Now that gave you a lot of material

[copper lark]

i cant find a good prompt and i’m not creative enough

[upbeat scroll]

why dont you try writing a fanfiction that advances your political agenda

write a conversation between two characters about a political topic you find interesting and worthy of discussion

[copper lark]

that’s not romantic

look i just wanna see zack and aerith happy and not dead

[upbeat scroll]

but what if they disagree on pre-emptive zoning in suburban areas?

[copper lark]

i’m. 15

[buoyant frigate]

Political conversations are just intros to slowburns

[hasty kernel]

Why not

Happy and dead

[buoyant frigate]

No

[upbeat scroll]

the fanfiction i have in mind is the zootopia abortion comic and its sequel

[hasty kernel]

Also I like that new icon

Ohhhh boy

[copper lark]

zack and aerith didn’t die i dunno what you mean

[hasty kernel]

That one

Hooo boy

[upbeat scroll]

i think its a cool new way to make art

[copper lark]

both zack and aerith make it to the end of ff7 and live happily and run a flower stall together

[hasty kernel]

Well you could have Aerith have a piercing while Zack is taking shots

[copper lark]

OVVEN.

[hasty kernel]

Sorry

[buoyant frigate]

Aw that’s cute Syd

[upbeat scroll]

lmao

[hasty kernel]

I couldnt resist the temptation

Puns are my existence

[buoyant frigate]

Getting a new EARRING while Zack is taking PICTURES

[copper lark]

zack might be my fav ff character ever i adore him

fhrvksk

[upbeat scroll]

he really rocks that purple pants

[hasty kernel]

I mean, Im not gonna say youre wrong Syd

But remember: Ignis exists

As does Elena

[copper lark]

okay real facts here i’m about to been slain

i don’t like ignis :/

[hasty kernel]

Excuse you?????

[upbeat scroll]

name a better character than zach fair that wears purple pants

[copper lark]

true facts

[hasty kernel]

That is without a doubrt

The worst take

I have seen all year

[copper lark]

listen!!! i liked ignis towards the end but

the way he treats noctis like

noctis Is a full 21 year old man

stop treating him like he’s 7

[hasty kernel]

Listen

Im a 21 year old man

Ignis is absolutely right in everything he does

[copper lark]

it just annoyed me personally

[hasty kernel]

Especially given that Noctis is uh

[copper lark]

his and ardyns are the dlcs i refuse to get

[hasty kernel]

A bit lazy

A bit unfocused, a bit unhealthy

Exactly the kind of guy who needs a team mom

Which is what Ignis is

[copper lark]

i guess

[hasty kernel]

Hopefully you have now changed your mind

And accepted the glory that is Ignis

[copper lark]

lol no

[hasty kernel]

Then pay with your blood

Surprisingly the first time I was able to use Skyrim quotes

[copper lark]

all the chocobros are annoying

that’s my hot take

i love them all but they’re all annoying

[hasty kernel]

Also a bad take

Except Prompto

[copper lark]

aranea is the best character

[hasty kernel]

He is a bit annoying

[copper lark]

those are the facts

[hasty kernel]

Mmh, no

Aranea hasnt had enough time to really be the best character

And she has to compete with Ignis and Ardyn

[serene tulip]

My favorite character is Cid

[copper lark]

episode aranea made me cry like a little baby okay

i love her

[hasty kernel]

Episode ... Aranea?

[copper lark]

she opens it eating mouldy popcorn

yeah

there’s a book with episode aranea, episode luna and episode noctis

i think ardyn has one too but that man makes me feel sick and i’d prefer to pretend he didn’t exist

[upbeat scroll]

no one should eat moldy popcorn

[copper lark]

she had no choice

[upbeat scroll]

for popcorn to get moldy it must first get stale, and that's horrible enough

[copper lark]

she also gets a little girl during her bit and

[hasty kernel]

Oh, I see

[copper lark]

sol if you’re reading this i love you

[hasty kernel]

Also how could you not love Ardyn

He is such a good villain

[copper lark]

LOVE ARDYN?

[hasty kernel]

Yes

[copper lark]

that’s where i draw the line

[hasty kernel]

The same way one loves Loki

[copper lark]

he’s disgusting i refuse

[hasty kernel]

He is a good and charismatic villain

[serene tulip]

This is Kefka Erasure

[hasty kernel]

Tbh

I also love Kefka

But Kefka is way more vile than Ardyn is

Kefka is like pure evil

[copper lark]

kefka

[hasty kernel]

That then gets drained

[copper lark]

whomst

[hasty kernel]

And made even more evil

Hold up

[serene tulip]

FFVI boss

[upbeat scroll]

kefka is the only accurate depiction of a clown in popular media

[serene tulip]

Syd is too young for FF6

[hasty kernel]

You dont know Kefka?

[copper lark]

oh lol ok

[hasty kernel]

You should play it, its very good

[copper lark]

no i’ve only played 7 onwards

i refuse to play anything under

[serene tulip]

:I

[copper lark]

playing 7 hurts me

[serene tulip]

6 is the best

[hasty kernel]

Yeah

Like, the order of FF games in terms of quality

[copper lark]

square enix please port crisis core please and thank you

[hasty kernel]

Is 6->4->7=5

[serene tulip]

9 probably comes next

[hasty kernel]

I have a soft spot for 1 because of its history but its not very good

2 was meh

3 was alright

[copper lark]

i’ve never seen anything about 9

[hasty kernel]

Personally even with all its flaws

[serene tulip]

8 and 10 probably rank the same in a ?????? quality

[hasty kernel]

XV comes next for me

It was a good game

And it has the best FF villain

Well, second-best

[serene tulip]

thank you for that correction

[hasty kernel]

Kefka is a magnificent bastard

[serene tulip]

I will fight you about Kefka

[hasty kernel]

He was my second-most favourite character in Dissida

Dissidia

[copper lark]

ffxv doesn’t have the best villain

[hasty kernel]

I gotta love him

Yes I already corrected to second-best, Syd

[copper lark]

he’s a rat and honestly he didn’t even feel like a villain until right at the end

[hasty kernel]

Youre slow

Wow thats a lot of hostility

Especially for a character who by FF standards hasnt even done anything that evil

[copper lark]

i dun care

i hate him and i hate that HE gets dlc?? but we aren’t allowed proper character building for any female nope nope

[hasty kernel]

Im just confused where this hatred comes from

I mean Im with you on that

Lunafreya had way too little screentime

Noctis had more synergy with his bodyguards sister

But Ardyn is still great

[copper lark]

i think mental manipulation is ,, a lot gross

and seeing as that’s his whole schtick

he really doesn’t sit well with me

luna is so cool in her episode

she gets a SWORD

also luna and noctis are alive

[hasty kernel]

I mean, yeah, he is a villain

But consider that he isnt trying to kill literally everyone on the planet

[copper lark]

he’s also a bad villain because again

didn’t even feel like the main villain until that fight at the end and the train scene

[hasty kernel]

Plus yknow

Sephiroth does plenty of mental manipulation himself

[serene tulip]

I love this dynamic y'all have

[copper lark]

ok at least sephiroth is hot tho

[hasty kernel]

Eh, a good villain doesnt have to be there from the start

MEh

Ardyn looks better tbh

[copper lark]

pfft

thanks btw oce

i don’t like sephiroth either btw

[hasty kernel]

Hm

Do you like any FF villains?

Anyway, I like villains that are there but turn into the main villains in a twist towards the end

[copper lark]

that’s a good point

really? feels cheap to me

[hasty kernel]

I mean hell, see: Ace Attorney in various cases

Id say its the opposite of cheap

[serene tulip]

Aww I'm sad that /hdance and /dance don't coboth count for this mission

[hasty kernel]

If its done properly with setup

[copper lark]

like the ffxv writers got to the end and they were like “uh oh ,,,, we don’t have a big villain”

so they threw ardyn in last minute

and said

lol look he’s part of the bloodline

[hasty kernel]

Nah, thats not the feeling I got at all

[copper lark]

he’s got a ring too

i also don’t like ffxv much maybe i should have said that

[hasty kernel]

It was pretty noticable from the start that he would become a main villain

[copper lark]

i have a lot of critiques about it

but my opinion for ff is awful because

[hasty kernel]

Yeah thats fair

[copper lark]

i enjoy X-II

[hasty kernel]

Never played it

Id say mine is objectively true

Since I agree that FF6 is the best game

And FF4 a close second

[copper lark]

no opinion is true

that’s a bad outlook to have

[hasty kernel]

That was sarcasm

I thought you were british

[serene tulip]

little solace is super adorable

[copper lark]

wowee

little solace is that the uhh

leaf people place

[serene tulip]

yeah

with the hanging houses

[hasty kernel]

Man my sleeping scheduled is messed up

Ill just go sleep now

Hopefully

[copper lark]

same lol

[upbeat scroll]

ok here's a cool hot take to be mad about

popcorn is a salad

[hasty kernel]

Explain

[upbeat scroll]

it's made of vegetables

the only ingredient is vegetable and dressing

[serene tulip]

in that case, a potato is a salad

[hasty kernel]

Its not actually

Maize is a grain

[upbeat scroll]

what

they lied to me

[serene tulip]

its kinda weird

[upbeat scroll]

popcorn is a tortilla

[serene tulip]

because like, its super filled with carbs

[upbeat scroll]

carbzzz

i dont even know what a carb is tbh

but i might have too much of it

cant believe corn is a grain

[north hamlet]

A carb is either a sugar or a starch

Basically

[copper lark]

is popcorn was a carb corn would be a carb

if*

[north hamlet]

It's full of starch so basically yes

Fun fact: corn used to mean any type of grain

Only in the past 2 or so centuries it's meant maize

[upbeat scroll]

they didnt even have corn in europe until the 1500s

[copper lark]

can someone’s voice be gentle but firm

or does that make no sense

[hasty kernel]

Yes

[north hamlet]

Yes it makes sense

[copper lark]

it’s 3:45 am please help

[upbeat scroll]

writing is all about contradiction

"their voice was sickly sweet and yet horribly bitter"

[copper lark]

i thought of a prompt

so i needed to figure out soft scolding ™

[north hamlet]

Gentle and firm don't contradict though

[serene tulip]

I'm not mad I'm disappointed

[upbeat scroll]

his ears were at the same time too large for his features and too small for his head

[serene tulip]

I've been tempted to write some stuff but I'm scared it will be terrible

[upbeat scroll]

yeah well suck it up /s

what you write will be terrible and thats ok

thats the first step

cant make good stuff if you avoid making terrible stuff

[copper lark]

me?? writing fics at 3 am?? they’re gonna terrible and im@gonna enjoy reading them when i’m sane again

[upbeat scroll]

i hope you dont have too many plans tomorrow morning

or i guess today morning

[copper lark]

i do

im@going out with my mum and my sister loool

[hasty kernel]

Phrasing

[copper lark]

wut

oh

i think it’s a case of how your brain takes it ovven

[hasty kernel]

I just like making that reference

[copper lark]

is there a name for the place between your neck and your shoulder

[hasty kernel]

.... what place?

[upbeat scroll]

the bone there is collarbone

[copper lark]

hmmmmg

[upbeat scroll]

is someone getting a little nibble kissy there in your story

[copper lark]

no aerith is cleaning his wounds

[upbeat scroll]

oh ok...

[copper lark]

i cant write gross romance

[upbeat scroll]

...whats gross about kissy

[hasty kernel]

Remember: Syd is 15

[upbeat scroll]

oh yeah

[copper lark]

gross

[upbeat scroll]

anyway tending wounds is a good place to set a story

you can fit a lot of exposition in there if thats what you're lookin for

[copper lark]

big words

what’s an exposition

[upbeat scroll]

you can fit a lot of "the characters tell the story in conversation" in there

[serene tulip]

its where you used to be

its your ex position

[upbeat scroll]

wow thanks for tending my wounds, aeris
yeah im surprised you made it out of there mostly unscathed
i am too, that sure was a big battle against the bad guys we just did

that way you dont have to have as much narration saying "they just did a big battle"

[copper lark]

i see

ty

i just realised why i cant sleep

75% humidity

[faint panther]

I'd be careful with dialog as exposition.

[upbeat scroll]

yeah you can definitely overdo exposition dialog but its important for new writers to know the tools they have

[faint panther]

^

[copper lark]

please, the world has already nerfed me with lung issues don’t make the humidity kill me

[upbeat scroll]

maybe "new writers" is rude

[copper lark]

:o ty for the tips

i’m a new writer

[north hamlet]

Only 75% humidity?

[copper lark]

i hate writing but i gotta do this for myself

[upbeat scroll]

i mean, you have less than 15 years of experience

[copper lark]

it’s 98% up north ;_;

we aren’t built for this weather please don’t smite me

[north hamlet]

Ok now 98% is actually bad

[upbeat scroll]

at what point do you just start swimming

[north hamlet]

At 100% rain happens because you can't fit more water in the air

So about then

[upbeat scroll]

oh yeah that makes sense

[faint panther]

Sometimes it feels like swimming here in the US south.

Especially between July and August.

[copper lark]

speaking of water i have a raging headache and for some reason i didn’t clock that i haven’t drank in a very long time

[upbeat scroll]

humidity isnt a measure of how much of the air is water, it's a measure of how close to the rain line it is

ok i have a much worse hot take than the popcorn thing

[north hamlet]

Basically yeah, it's a percentage because it represents the water capacity at the given temperature and such

[faint panther]

That happens to me, Syd. "Why do I feel like dying slowly in agony but also somehow capable of self-destructing in nuclear fire?" "You haven't eaten since yesterday morning." "Ooohh."

[upbeat scroll]

its like those meters in the sims

gotta keep an eye on them to keep them up, because they will NOT be maintained automatically

[copper lark]

my pc was at 45 degrees

someone scold me for not turning it off

[buoyant frigate]

.....Celsius?

[copper lark]

yeah

[buoyant frigate]

tHATS HOT

[copper lark]

TRUST ME

[upbeat scroll]

https://4.imimg.com/data4/XE/IA/MY-12480947/folded-laptop-500x500.jpg

45 degrees

[copper lark]

no as in

[buoyant frigate]

Flfjdhdhdfkfjdgdfhdh

[north hamlet]

Mine has run at 60 before

[faint panther]

Oh dang.

[north hamlet]

But now i have nicer fans

[copper lark]

that’s great i’m currently slow cooking

[buoyant frigate]

tURN IT OFF

[copper lark]

LMAO I DID

my fan .... is pushing out warm air is this the end for me

[north hamlet]

Syd take better care of yourself

Don't make us worry

[buoyant frigate]

Turning off ur computer is self care

[upbeat scroll]

especialy if you have twitter open

[copper lark]

i had ffxiv open

which was probably worse

wait you men

mean mentally

[buoyant frigate]

I mean, either works

[copper lark]

can i contact transport for london

and beg them to put air con in piccadilly trains

[upbeat scroll]

yes

you can do that

[copper lark]

they won’t do it tho

[upbeat scroll]

maybe they dont have 24 hour phone lines

[copper lark]

i hate TFL they’re the worst 😡😡

[upbeat scroll]

probably be better off going to the hq and asking for a meeting with the person in charge

[north hamlet]

I'm glad that almost all the public transport here has aircon now

[upbeat scroll]

tell the clerk at the desk that you're doing an interview for a school project

and then grill the person about there being no aircon

[copper lark]

ALSO can we have a moment of silence for england, our country is being run by boris johnson

[upbeat scroll]

one time i was walking around my local financial district and i just walked up to an adobe employee taking a smoke break and asked him if i could do an audio interview for school

i did not have any questions prepared, but we had a nice chat anyway

[copper lark]

lool

[upbeat scroll]

turns out people will trust you if its for a school project

because that makes them feel important

i wonder if you could pull that on ol boris

[north hamlet]

Yes, if it sounds like a good pr move to him

[copper lark]

if i’m ever in a situation where i’d talk to boris johnson, there wouldn’t be a lot of talking but there would be a lot of shouting

[upbeat scroll]

i mean once you get to his face you can do whatever you want

[copper lark]

legally

[upbeat scroll]

id bring a milkshake if i thought i could get away with it, hypothetically

[copper lark]

i can t

LMAO

[north hamlet]

I prefer the slow burn over angry yelling

Just pile on the awkward questions

[copper lark]

everyone’s blaming boris for the weather

good

[upbeat scroll]

just casually walk into his office with a half empty milkshake, escorted by a security guard

[north hamlet]

Alternatively you can egg him while he's doing a speech or something

In the tradition of our hero egg boy

[copper lark]

it hasn’t properly hit me

[upbeat scroll]

what, the egg?

[copper lark]

like .. my country is being run by b o r i s j o h n s o n

[upbeat scroll]

you're supposed to hit the other guy

[copper lark]

we have discount trump as our PM

[upbeat scroll]

imagine what if feels like for americans

we have regular trump as our president

[north hamlet]

It's terrible, all my american friends are perpetually salty

[copper lark]

it’s okay yall one more year

[upbeat scroll]

we wouldnt have to wait if some people did their jobs

[copper lark]

oop

[upbeat scroll]

hmmm that can mean a lot of things in retrospect

but yeah

[serene tulip]

ugh

I hate getting parties with all like, higher level folks than me

[upbeat scroll]

no matter how it ends you feel like you got carried

[copper lark]

yeah :( thats annoying

[faint panther]

I'm not entirely unworried that things will get weird around the next election, so really, Congress needs to stop sitting on their thumbs.

[upbeat scroll]

next us election will be wild

[serene tulip]

I've just resigned myself to the fact that the world is going to suck for the rest of my life

[upbeat scroll]

i hope

oh yeah thats a swear

forgot where i was

[faint panther]

Hey, we can always run off to the Country.

[serene tulip]

I'm thinking I'm going to study logistics so I can help climate refugees

assuming there's an economic framework left to do that with

[copper lark]

move out to the country?

with everyone?

[upbeat scroll]

i dont know that logistics will solve any problems, but i dont know a lot about logistics

[serene tulip]

like, MSF needs logisticians even more than they need doctors

you have to get the doctors to places

and their supplies

and do so efficiently

and particularly when it comes to refugees

you need to be able to move them and supplies efficiently

Logistics is the backbone of society

[upbeat scroll]

logistics are really important but i figured people were already very good at that

[serene tulip]

People are already really good at computers

[north hamlet]

We can still be better at most things

[upbeat scroll]

ok to be clear, "everyone should code" is a campaign to get more coders into the workforce so that corporations don't have to pay coders as much as they currently do

[north hamlet]

That's a very negative way of looking at it but ok

[faint panther]

It's not inaccurate.

[north hamlet]

It really isn't

[serene tulip]

its not 100% inaccurate

[upbeat scroll]

thats why corporations are funding those campaigns

[north hamlet]

But it's still not a happy thought

[upbeat scroll]

no time for happy thoughts we live in hellworld now

[serene tulip]

its true

[upbeat scroll]

:(

[serene tulip]

curls up under their desk for a nice good cry

[upbeat scroll]

i gtg but here's a good quote from malcolm x

"You can't have capitalism without racism."

[north hamlet]

Debatable

If people were purely capitalist racism would be abolished because a bias like that gets in the way of having the most efficient operation

But people are rubbish judgemental humans instead

[night shale]

^

There will always be racism somewhere because the human mind avoids change & things that are different.

[north hamlet]

And runs on assumptions

[night shale]

How dare you assume that I run on assumptions

My thoughts are 100% pure logic all the time

[north hamlet]

Don't be rude to assumptions, they're often a good approximation of how reality works

Which is great for not getting eaten by a lion

[serene tulip]

ur face is a heuristic

[north hamlet]

Not so good for making friends on the other hand

[night shale]

To be fair, I was joking. There was a cringy time when I would have unironically said that though.

[north hamlet]

Don't worry i was joking too

Assumptions are rubbish and don't deserve my affection

[night shale]

Equilibrium has been reestablished.

[serene tulip]

Y'all need to play some games and get some roles so you aren't all colorless

[night shale]

Wuzzat

[serene tulip]

have you played any of the supergiant games games?

[night shale]

Oh yeah, all of them but Hades.

[serene tulip]

If so, hop on down to #bot-commands and type in ?rank [game]

then you can right click on your name and select the role/color you want(assuming you didn't grab all the games which makes you perma yellow and I'm kinda mad :P)

test

[night shale]

Pyre #1 so I just tagged that one.

[serene tulip]

Reader/Sandra OTP

[night shale]

2gether4ever

The OTP of all OTP though is Ae X Almer

[faint panther]

Incorrect.

OTPest of all OTPs is RedxMan in the Transistor, followed by GilmanxJustice.

[serene tulip]

lol

JUSTICE

Gregg and CRIMES

[night shale]

idk, that's just like, ur opinion man

[serene tulip]

https://giant.gfycat.com/PlasticAcceptableGrackle.webm

[faint panther]

Lightsaber mid-construction?

[wide ember]

I saw the word grackle and got disappointed when the media is not about said bird

even if a similar-ish puffing is shown

[copper lark]

B)

3 hours sleep bapy

[north hamlet]

@hexed hollow the weird thing about from what I've heard is that your can't actually tell who is categorised as a tipped employee, not the size of the tip

There's no accounting for why any weird tradition hangs around though

[hexed hollow]

It is really weird, glad australia doesn't have tipping culture though

Very easy to work out how much foods cost at resturants/cafes etc

Which also has me wondering why tax isn't included on prices of things for some US states

[north hamlet]

Because the country was founded on getting out of taxes?

[copper lark]

how do u know how much anything costs tho

[north hamlet]

You don't

You guess

[hexed hollow]

you add the tax rate of the specific state onto the cost of the product

if thing costs 10$ and the tax rate is 15%, the thing really costs $11.50

having to do this for almost everything is dumb and having tax included in the base price is infinitely better + efficient

their are things exempt from tax but that varies from country to country

[tropic garden]

tipping is in theory supposed to be a way of crowdsourcing rewards for workers who provide better service, the idea being that a worker who does better will be given some monetary appreciation by customers who enjoyed their work
in reality it ends up supplementing worker wages so that bosses can legally skimp on paying a true minimum wage, making workers' already tenuous livelihoods contingent on whether cranky baby boomers decide they had a perfect lunch or not, lol

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hasty kernel]

Yeah, tipping is a fine thing when its an optional nice gesture

If your wages literally depend on it, it sucks

[hexed hollow]

isn't it a thing that the employer has to pay a minimum wage (or the differance) if a worker doesn

doesn't make enough from tips

[tropic garden]

as for taxes, i think part of it is probably that different states in the US have different tax rates, and most sales/consumption taxes are decided on a state rather than a national level, so a company that wants to price their product consistently can just set a base price without worrying about whatever arbitrary tax laws are in place wherever

uhhhh i don't think so?

not in the states anyways

ah no you're right

The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) requires payment of at least the Federal minimum wage to covered, nonexempt employees. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equals at least the Federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips. If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the Federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.

idk what "covered, nonexempt" covers tho

[hexed hollow]

some employers are probably just bad and don't pay emplyees the money they deserve

[hasty kernel]

Servers usually dont have the money to sue after all

[hexed hollow]

that hourly rate is reeeeeally damn low geez 0_o

[north hamlet]

It's not that some are bad, it's that anyone considered a tipped employee isn't subject to the same minimum wage laws

[tropic garden]

-independent contractors (only employees are entitled to the minimum wage)
-outside salespeople (a salesperson who works a route, for example)
-workers on small farms
-switchboard operators employed by phone companies with no more than 750 stations
-employees of seasonal amusement or recreational businesses
-employees of local newspapers having a circulation of less than 4,000
-newspaper deliverers, and
-apprentices, students, and learners, as defined by federal law.```

hoo

that's a lot of exemptions

[north hamlet]

I think who's tipped or not differs between states too

High school students here get more pay them single mums on minimum wage in the usa

Including exchange rates

[hexed hollow]

minimum wage in aus is ~13 USD/hour

[tropic garden]

federal us minimum wage is i think $7.50

[north hamlet]

It's 17 and a bit AUD for adults

[tropic garden]

$7.25, mb

[north hamlet]

About 14 for underage workers

[hexed hollow]

it's actually 19.49 AUD an hour from the new financial year

[hasty kernel]

9.35€ here

So your minimum wage is actually higher than germanies, even adjusted for value

Huh

[north hamlet]

Stuff in aus is more expensive though

Although food is reasonably affordable and basic healthcare is free

[hasty kernel]

Than in germany? Interesting

[hexed hollow]

australia has a pretty good wage
quite a few things just happen to be expensive due to factors like having less population and everyone being so spread out across this continent approximately the same size as the US

[north hamlet]

It's basically the population of beijing across the whole us

Also it's an island so getting stuff to it is a pain

[hexed hollow]

and a good chunk of the centre is desert

[north hamlet]

What's really noticeable is the added cost of digital goods though

They cost twice as much for no discernible reason

[hexed hollow]

a casual 90$ for a new AAA video game for example

or if you go to EB Games, 120$

[north hamlet]

They're often over 100 if there's a lot of hype

And no decent game costs less than 50 usually

[hexed hollow]

thankfully EB does price matching, so you can go to something like Target nab the catelog and pay a decent price for the AAA game

[north hamlet]

I assume that having to go through the process of localising and licensing costs quite a bit, but with digital distribution not lowering the prices it's a bit suss to say the least

On the other hand people here are willing to pay for the things anyway so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hexed hollow]

pretty much, yay for hype even though the same game will be half price in 6 months

except nintendo stuff

or in the case of anthem and FO76, 80% off in 3 weeks

[copper lark]

fallout 76 correction

90% off in 3 days

[north hamlet]

You overestimate the price sensitivity of australian buyers

[hexed hollow]

Oh yeah, I forgot that was an enourmous dumpster fire at launch

Probably still is

[north hamlet]

I thought it was before launch too

[hexed hollow]

Probably was

Good job bethesda for releasing a potato well before it was even ready

[north hamlet]

Not to mention the vinyl bags

[hexed hollow]

Ahh the great canvas "shortage" of 2018

Also the "16 times the detail" lie at e3 2018

[analog spear]

Haha 76

[ionic viper]

also the part where they leaked customer’s details when trying to fix the issue with the canvas bags

[copper lark]

it just works

[serene tulip]

I got a beta key from a friend of mine

for FO76

however their launcher didn't include a way to uninstall a game that you didn't "Own"

[north hamlet]

What a cursed object

[serene tulip]

as another example of just how dumb they are

[faint panther]

Bethesda was a mistake.

[north hamlet]

I dunno they were doing fine once upon a time

[faint panther]

I mean, people always rave about their games, but 99% of the time they need to be almost completely redone by mods.

[north hamlet]

I mostly hear that about the newer games

[faint panther]

"Skyrim is awesome! After you fix this laundry list of broken junk with post-release mods by people who make games better."

[silver maple]

Bethesda owns plenty of great studio to be fair

[copper lark]

the mod that cleans up sanctuary in fallout 4 is a blessing

[silver maple]

Arkane 👌

[faint panther]

I'm not crediting DOOM's perfection to Bethesda. They just published the game.

[serene tulip]

Morrowind and Fallout NV

[faint panther]

Morrowind is mostly an exception, but even NV gets riddled with mods.

[north hamlet]

They appear to have gotten dramatically worse in recent times

[dim kraken]

To be fair though you can’t really expect every game released to be perfect. Manpower to produce them is limited. That doesn’t mean they’re immune to criticism but they all have to make a profit and sometimes making perfect games isn’t something that’s profitable.

[faint panther]

There is a very very very wide gap between a perfect game and "needing" mods to even be functional.

[dim kraken]

Mods are free labor basically

[faint panther]

^

[dim kraken]

Labor which game companies cannot afford

[faint panther]

Uuuhh.

[dim kraken]

Don’t take me wrong I’m an anti-capitalist leftie nut, but that’s corporate culture.

They cut corners.

[north hamlet]

The older games seem to be fine without needing mods but the newer ones seem to be complete potatoes

[faint panther]

So they absolutely can afford the labor, they're just being absolute shysters.

That is not a point in Bethesda's favor, d00d.

That's actually a nail in their coffin.

[dim kraken]

If a game company can delegate “fixing their game” to modders that do it for free - they will, and will get to keep more of the $$$

[severe plover]

Yeah

[dim kraken]

That’s capitalism for ya

[faint panther]

Yeah, so boycott Bethesda.

[severe plover]

Boycott capitalism

[north hamlet]

Man you really hate them

[severe plover]

Every big company is like that for the most part lmao ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[faint panther]

They don't make good games. Why should I like them?

Supergiant isn't like that, Edward.

[north hamlet]

You shouldn't, but you're also pretty insistent that we should also dislike them

Supergiant is also very small

[severe plover]

Yeah but supergiant isn’t a Big Group

Yeah exactly

[dim kraken]

That’s not a company fault because “they’re immoral”. Everyone on every level of management is just doing something to be more optimal, it’s just that the system they optimize for isn’t the one that makes a better product all the time.

[north hamlet]

It's a shame that so many big devs and publishers get to a point where they don't seem to do any good

Thanks capitalism

[silver maple]

I mean to play devils advocate I had a ton of fun in vanilla fo4, mods just extended that

[dim kraken]

fo4?

[north hamlet]

Fallout

[faint panther]

It's not impossible to have fun with a poorly-balanced or -designed product.

[north hamlet]

Very true

[faint panther]

But to not recognize the flaw is problematic.

[dim kraken]

I mean it’s not impossible to release a good game in a broken system too

[faint panther]

Also true.

[dim kraken]

But it’s important to recognize that this would be an exception

[severe plover]

Yeah

[dim kraken]

An exception which should be by all means celebrated and elevated :D

[faint panther]

So we're all in agreement that Bethesda sucks and they should stop being lauded.

Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox.

[north hamlet]

Their past achievements stand, but now all they do is release buggy messes

[severe plover]

Yeah I’m w invis

[north hamlet]

So they should probably be put in therapy or put down

[severe plover]

You can still enjoy them ofc but

[faint panther]

"No, Ma, he was my dog. I'll do it."

[silver maple]

The biggest issue is mod shop and not updating their engine for like a decade imo

[arctic basalt]

(late but fnv was actually obsidian, not bethesda)

[north hamlet]

that just makes it worse

[dim kraken]

I find the idea of selling mods the most baffling

Like, people are already doing free work for you, you’re already profiting from their labor

[faint panther]

Capitalism is evil, Bird.

[dim kraken]

Don’t tell that to me

That’s preaching to the choir

[silver maple]

it’ll be cool to see what they do next though, and if they use the idtech engine

[faint panther]

Smash cut to Todd Howard in Tom Willits' (id Software's studio director) office with Tom choking on his own laughter at the request.

Okay, now off my soapbox, you guys have a lovely day.

[north hamlet]

You too

[gloomy vector]

Ty for the spam Supergiant :D

https://snag.gy/9Oa2Yr.jpg

[serene tulip]

I see the 💃🏾 emoji and am like, "oh, caitlin liked that, cool"

good job on branding that

I should start doing that with 🐙

There

wait

>:|

OK, I might have to make a lalafell character

because I just saw a lalafell marauder run past me and the idea of tanking as a lalafell is hilarious

[copper lark]

eugh

[serene tulip]

?

[copper lark]

lala tanks are the worst

so small i can not heal you

[analog spear]

Best tanks because they can’t get hit

[copper lark]

**they definitely can **

[serene tulip]

I keep on forgetting to turn on the agro booster thing

because I forget that it turns off at the start of dungeons despite the fact that I haven't turned it off pretty much since I got it

[upbeat scroll]

How to turn off aggro booster irl

[serene tulip]

anti-anxiety drugs

therapy

turns out a lot of the aggro I draw is mostly just percieved aggro

[vocal brook]

https://thiefspark.tumblr.com/post/186525114830/so-my-groupchat-tried-the-creeper-meme
Please watch this video I'm losing my dang mind

Warning: swearing is involved

[silver maple]

AWWW MAN

[upbeat scroll]

so we back in the mine

[tardy anchor]

got our pickaxe swinging

[silver maple]

from side to side

[tardy anchor]

side side to side

[silver maple]

heeeeads up

I mean this task a grueling one

[tropic garden]

pickaxe

[silver maple]

Creeper

[tropic garden]

awww man

[serene tulip]

Make a man

wait a second

[upbeat scroll]

out of yoooouuuuu

[tropic garden]

TIME IS RACING TOWARD US

[opaque quail]

til the huns