#off-topic-discussion

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hasty kernel
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Oh I would enjoy that immensely

wide ember
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monsieur-eh-mad-monsieur?

severe plover
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Oh I love confusing people

serene tulip
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Honestly I don't even get to confuse people

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They're just like, "you're a really undudely dude"

severe plover
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When I get correctly gendered: nice
When people fumble and land on sir: NICE

north hamlet
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I've had people mistake me for the opposite gender, but I'm also told i obviously look like what i am

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It's probably the baggy clothing

severe plover
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Oh Valid

hasty kernel
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I basically just look like a programmer/computer scientist which is, well, accurate

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We have a distinctive look it seems

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Or at least, had, nowadays programmers come in all appearances

honest glade
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Fat, male, and kinda unamused?

north hamlet
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Looks unemployed when employed, looks employed when unemployed

wide ember
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I legit got mistaken for homeless while I had a decent job

serene tulip
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oof

hasty kernel
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Well Im more chubby than outright fat, but yes

wide ember
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once, in a park, by volunteers handing free meals

hasty kernel
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Also a beard, messy hair, and clearly tired

north hamlet
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Yep that's a computer person

honest glade
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That's me, too. When I go to job interviews, I look FABULOUS.

When I worked at Amazon and IKEA?

People: "What's your business here?"
Me: "I'm an employee........"

hasty kernel
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Yeah I look mostly like that

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Nowadays though, even stereotypical jocks are becoming computer scientists

elfin umbra
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ugh big mood

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i work as a waiter in a restaurant so i have to look a bit presentable

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except i always look super tired so you have all these beautiful people working here and then theres perpetually tired me

hasty kernel
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Oh yeah in my case its amplified since Im slavic

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So my default expression is somewhere between "perpetually annoyed" and "really tired"

north hamlet
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I get mixed messages about how tired i look too

elfin umbra
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well im only annoyed during tourist season which is right about now

honest glade
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I'll always be one of the frumpy looking staff members if I'm given a scheudle that's trash... which I almost always receive.

hasty kernel
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I try to smile more to not fall into that default expression, but its hard

desert swallow
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I have really bad resting annoyed face

honest glade
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Same.

elfin umbra
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oh smiling isnt a problem im very polite and all

honest glade
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I can slap on a good facade when I need itnfor clients/customers.

hasty kernel
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Oh Im polite, have made a conscious effort to fix that years upon years ago

honest glade
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But my default is a perpetual "eh" face.

hasty kernel
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I just look like K from MiB

elfin umbra
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i'm like a wreck that beams sunlight

north hamlet
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I smile when I'm nervous

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Which is usually when i talk to people i don't know

serene tulip
honest glade
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I have a very dry sense of humor, so it inevitably seeps out in how I talk and my facial expressions. XD Queen of deadpan, whether I like it or not.

serene tulip
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I have so many nervous tells

elfin umbra
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it's ok i'm a hot swamp demon

serene tulip
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Like, cracking my neck is one that always bugs me

honest glade
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YET, my customer service is still on point. Which is all that matters.

wide ember
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so instead of skin care routine it's beard routine huh

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or hair

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also maybe customer services requires deadpan so it's done right (?)

north hamlet
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It depends on what the service is, I'd think

honest glade
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Here's the thing.

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If you're a decent person? You get my genuine sunshine demeanor.

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If you're rude? You get the facade. Which may or may not slowly melt into the deadpan depending on HOW rude you are.

severe plover
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Same yea!

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Ugh whenever I deal w customers my voice goes up an octave or something it’s horrid but

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Most of our customers r ok except old ppl

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Question for people yelling at me while I’m making them food,, Why.

wide ember
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oh the thing when your vocal cord tightens from stress?

severe plover
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If this food were not made in front of you this would be 50% spit

honest glade
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I get that I need to earn a paycheck, but nobody's gonna treat me like trash and not get to walk away feeling like I subtlely called them an idiot.

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:3c

severe plover
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I think it’s prob psychological not physical

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Y E A !

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Love complaining abt old ppl

honest glade
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lololol

severe plover
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I’m at work rn and I’m feeling it

honest glade
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Funnily enough, most of my problematic customers at IKEA were your standard soccor mom types... or people trying to be slick and get free money by returning stuff they found in the dumpster.

wide ember
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good thing about half or more of the old people customers I had to sell food to back then were decent people, though when you do meet a bad one... they have all the time in their life to stay here and make your already so-so life miserable for the next several minutes

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maybe same idea with soccer mom, they have more time on their hands or something?

honest glade
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When I worked at a grocery store, old people were usually the problem. Not understanding what's on sale and what's not, not understanding why we don't carry every brand ever, not understanding how the bulk section works.

hasty kernel
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Anyway I kinda wish I was pretty

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As is Im just ... passable

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Maybe decent if I was thin but Im not thin so thats out

earnest bay
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Well, unless you have a severe disorder of some sort

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Thats entirely fixable

wide ember
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sometimes they are genuine clueless "but it was here 14 years ago?"

honest glade
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My other personal favorite were the people who wanted me to weigh their container for said bulk product, then subtract it from the total weight of the bulk item in the container.

wide ember
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and the old lady didn't try to make me miserable, she was genuinely confused

honest glade
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Then I have to explain why I can't do that.

hasty kernel
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Well I am working on that

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But its really slow

wide ember
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oh no

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uno, are you doing a lot of jogging?

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I accidentally lost weight by doing too much of that at some point

earnest bay
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80% of weight loss is done with a fork

hasty kernel
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I walk, I dont really job

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Jog

earnest bay
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The rest you're better off just walking a lot, or strength training, as it raises you BMR

hasty kernel
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The main thing Im doing is severely cutting down on calorie intake

earnest bay
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Cut carb and sugar as much as you can, but dont go overboard

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From personal experience

hasty kernel
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Eh, I found 1500 calories a day is the sweet spot

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Less and Ill not function

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More and its too slow

serene tulip
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a lack of fork, more specifically

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😛

wide ember
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...I eat about 1k cals

serene tulip
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I lost 100lbs with keto

wide ember
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a day, and I should eat more

earnest bay
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I've eaten over 4k daily carbs for days on end, but since it was only like 15-20% carb, I gained next to nothing

honest glade
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In MOST cases of wanting to lose weight, you gotta take in less calories than you need for the day. So start by eating less. Then slowly work in exercise.

earnest bay
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Keto is quite easy in the US

serene tulip
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ah

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fair

honest glade
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All that hard work in the gym means nothing if you're eating too much.

earnest bay
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^^

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The biggest obstacle in changing the way you look (be it fat or muscle) is how much you know about it

serene tulip
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I mean

honest glade
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One of those nutritional calculators will help you go far

serene tulip
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if you go to the gym a lot you can be a strong fat person

wide ember
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...that does sound kind of cool

hasty kernel
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Yeah the average intake I should have is somewhere around 2000?

serene tulip
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I'm told there are a whole bunch of people into that sort of aesthetic >.>

hasty kernel
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Maybe a bit more

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So its quite a bit below what I need

wide ember
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I'm underweight though

hasty kernel
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Just not so little I start getting unfocused

wide ember
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metabolism is too fast

earnest bay
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Then stay at 1600-1800

serene tulip
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Screw dieting

hasty kernel
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1500 works for me

serene tulip
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Weight lift until you can bench press the people who think you should diet!

wide ember
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uno is programmer right? then there should be free fruits in the office?

hasty kernel
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The issue is that I have a metabolism that means I gain weight fast, and lose it slowly

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Im a student actually

earnest bay
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Not everyone can weightlift tho

wide ember
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I feel like while on low cals, eating a fruit or two every 15-20 min helps

hasty kernel
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I should go to the gym more often

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But Im lazy

earnest bay
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Then find a buddy

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Ir

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Or

wide ember
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and while at the gym thing, ask your doctor or nutritionist about glucosamine supplement

earnest bay
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Go early

wide ember
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to avoid joint issues

serene tulip
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I probably should take that

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for my wrist

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as I have arthritis

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so old

wide ember
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I used to feel like I had needles in every joint of my body until I started taking that supplement

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wait you too (I don't anymore)

serene tulip
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Just in my wrist

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from when I broke it in 2010

wide ember
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oh

serene tulip
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I "Powdered" my distal radius, according to the surgeon

wide ember
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so yeah, it's not for everybody, but for those with joint issues or are exercising a lot, glucosamine chondroitine (with vit D3) is usually great

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what

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damn, I hope you've recovered a lot since

serene tulip
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They couldn't even screw a plate onto it, which is usual for a distal radius fracture

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I had like, 6 pins and an external fixeter

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mostly I just live with it

wide ember
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...I love having good bones and no major accident I guess

serene tulip
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limited range of movement, tendonitis and arthritis

hasty kernel
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Anyway, Im not sure I would look that much better even if thin

wide ember
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but if you are more confident, you automatically look better

earnest bay
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^

hasty kernel
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Eh, that has its limits I find

serene tulip
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Also, you might lose weight in ways you don't know

earnest bay
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Nope

wide ember
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and become more fit

sharp grail
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imagine having a body that doesnt feel like its falling apart... this post was made by.... horrible fleshbag gang

earnest bay
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It does not, to the point of absurdity

wide ember
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according to studies, you only need 30 minutes of gym (with cardio) to benefit

serene tulip
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I mean, I'm a horrible fleshbag without a whole bunch of chronic issues!

copper lark
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imagine going to the gym

serene tulip
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This post made by the low self esteem gang

earnest bay
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You will hear countless stories about it, of course, but even from personal experience, I can, with my certificate as a random discoed dude, attest to looks being at best a secondary factor in relationships

hasty kernel
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I mean, to a degree, everyone grows old after all

earnest bay
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Beauty is convenient to get a foot in the door, and its good to cultivate yours (it also helps because it cultivates health) but everything after that, to quote innumerable cliches, is from within

serene tulip
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I'm sleepy

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my friends want me to do things, but sleepy

earnest bay
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So if you take away anything from this, let it be the following:

Work out to get healthy, and at some point you'll realize you look good, and realize that disciplined work/effort can transform you - the revelations that will come from that will take care of the rest

serene tulip
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The Expanse panel at SDCC is going on right now

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and they're going to announce Season 4

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and I'm excited

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A video was already leaked saying its going to be out dec 18th(?)

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but I'm still excited

wide ember
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is the expanse netflix UK only?

serene tulip
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dunno

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amazon prime has gotten most of the rights for it

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what with syfy dropping it

wide ember
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oh no, it's on crave, not netfliex canada for north america

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and yes syfy dropping it

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must be nice to be in UK, lots more cool stuff

hasty kernel
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Counterpoint: everything thats happening recently

earnest bay
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^^

wide ember
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ok point taken

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ok UK has some really cool stuff and some really awful stuff and I guess that's why there's cctv monitoring

copper lark
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hello update on my friend who isn’t speaking to me she’s currently playing minecraft with one of our mutual friends so haha [whips and nae naes]

upbeat scroll
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Take the hint?

copper lark
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?

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if you’re saying she’s clearly not wanting to talk to me i’m ,, fully aware

chilly briar
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Sorry to hear, feels bad 😭

analog spear
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When I go to the gym I jog to pyre music

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@earnest bay you mean 400 daily carbs, right? shadeembarassed

somber ferry
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yeah, i’m sorry to hear that, syd :(

hasty kernel
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Mmh, that does suck

hasty kernel
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Noooo

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The jumping discord bug is back

serene tulip
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FFXIV or Outer Wilds?

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!roll 1d2

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:I

vocal brook
serene tulip
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Finally got some cute crafting gear

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the important things

severe plover
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aint that really all it is in this life chief?? hell yea

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OOP ok no cursing im sorry

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im so glad that u cant get banned for cursing in here bc id be out lmao

serene tulip
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hell isn't on the list

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because of Hades

severe plover
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OH really

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OHHOHOHOHOOHOHOHHOOHHHOHO O

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that makes so much sense but this is the funniest thing on this planet earth lmao

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was gonna say after saying i wont get banned im now Immediatly gonna get banned hah

serene tulip
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I'm not actually sure its in hades

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but I think its in one of the games

severe plover
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ahem H*ck

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WOW BEFORE U SAY ANYTHIng poWErFUL NAME

vocal brook
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Meg says "Go to hell"

severe plover
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sorry my finger slipped on the shift key oop

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is that, is that hades

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or am i forgetful

serene tulip
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yeah

tropic garden
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yeah words that make an appearance in the games are obviously fair game (haha)

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we're not gonna like...ban you for non-allowed cursing...proxy catches them, but we would appreciate if you made an effort not to, in the name of politeness in a semi-public forum

serene tulip
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we don't want children to learn about h*lding h*nds without parental supervision

tropic garden
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gdjfhgdf can't forget those escape characters

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we also get, like, a notification every time proxy deletes a message so, you know,

serene tulip
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poor mods

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also can I be a mod?

tropic garden
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hahahahaha

serene tulip
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I wanna be purple

tropic garden
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honestly i don't like the purple much. i miss when we used to be...blue? green?

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we were a different color once

serene tulip
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I have plenty of modding experience of my personal server and its... user....

tropic garden
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but it was hard to distinguish

cedar rock
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i wish i was green

hexed hollow
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mods are chosen through an application process iirc right?

tropic garden
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leave the mod team and u can be gkdfjhgfdjk

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yeah they are

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if SGG decides more mods are needed, they'll make a call for applications

serene tulip
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I wish we could still do the whole IRC thing and let me use what colors everyone is and stuff

severe plover
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god i'd love to mod here tbh it's a hoot

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altho yeah i need to learn to swear less Oop

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and sorry mods for cursing a bunch those bots r a pain tbh

tropic garden
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proxy does important work!

severe plover
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oh absolutely!

tropic garden
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we appreciate it uvu

severe plover
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i just meant the like, the bot logs

tropic garden
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yeah, important we know if people say something that actually is banworthy tho

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which has. happened

severe plover
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no one:
me in the mod log: Heck Heck Heck Heck Heck AHEM F*EAKIN

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i was trying to censor freaking but now it looks like i did say a bad word

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oh yeah 100000% id bet

wide ember
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How are the colours decided? Does SGG decide that or?

tropic garden
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yep

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they were decided pretty early on in the server's history; SGG chose them initially, there was some feedback from users and mods, and the colors were tweaked for readability and to be distinct from each other

fleet sable
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very good colors btw

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(im biased because the pyre color is my favorite color ever lol)

serene tulip
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I am running out of inventory slots 0.o

upbeat scroll
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Do you have to purchase more inventory slots with real money currency?

serene tulip
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I honestly don't know

upbeat scroll
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Sometimes I feel like I'm running out of inventory space irl

fleet sable
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good nitw pfp

serene tulip
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Its also true!

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I am a trash mammal

upbeat scroll
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jack of ALL trades

wide ember
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Running out of inventory irl is a mood

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I can’t imagine the time it took to do that many disciples

earnest bay
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@analog spear nope, 4k

copper lark
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@serene tulip as far as i know you can’t buy more exp slots T_T

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exp i meant inventory*

ionic viper
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i levelled botanist to 35 (the free trial cap) and it just about killed me

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i can’t imagine doing the rest of hand/land

copper lark
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that’s why i haven’t done any of them

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i might level fishing to max bc i wanna fish in lava

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i also really enjoy fishing in this game

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but that’s for after i finish shadowbringers

ionic viper
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my plan is to get as many of the classes i can access to 35 before i leave the free trial

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it’s gonna feel so good once i can actually get rid of low level gear

copper lark
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that’s rlly smart tbh, the rest all start at 30+

ionic viper
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right now i’m carrying it all round like but i’ll need this when i start levelling another class

copper lark
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lmaooo

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i’m really glad they raised the cap level

ionic viper
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i have a hoarding problem in any video game ever

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“but what if i need it later??”

copper lark
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same, my inventory is full of meat from cooking because “i’ll level cooking while i’m bored later”

ionic viper
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god. and the glamour system’s only gonna make that worse huh.

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oh my god i used to have such a clean inventory before i picked up botanist

copper lark
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market board too will make it worse

ionic viper
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i had to set a rule for myself hat i’d get rid of the stuff i only harvested one of to get the gathering log entry

copper lark
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if you level crafting/gathering you can make mega gil by inflating prices on the market board so i suggest keeping things you craft/gather

ionic viper
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yeah but market board access is a long way off for me :’D

copper lark
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still! keep extra stuff in the chocobo backpack

ionic viper
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true

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i keep forgetting that exists

copper lark
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same, i think i just have cookies in mine

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I Am Here for that 3% exp food bonus

fleet sable
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why is everyone going fast

ionic viper
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i gotta

tardy anchor
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hermes

faint panther
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hermes

analog spear
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Burmaz not 4K grams tho, because that’s impossible

autumn pasture
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oh hey, what game is that 👀

serene tulip
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Gin Rummy

serene tulip
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OH MAN

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caps

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I recieved 2 player commendations my first instanced raid

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I feel good

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Kinda upset about the loot system tho :<

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I don't see why I should have to compete with 3 other people because they're greedy jerks

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although I did get some cool boots

hasty kernel
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Thats another thing GW2 does better

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Loot is instanced

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Everyone gets their own loot, and there is no competition

serene tulip
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TBH I thought all smart MMOs had moved to that system

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it really only works in good faith

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its based off the old dnd system, which was designed pretty much in good faith because you actually had to deal with the same people over and over again

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also please stop me from spending all my money on dyes

ionic viper
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i mean, if you need an item, click "need" on it.....

serene tulip
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yeah, but other folks roll need too

ionic viper
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oh no, other people need the same item.

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i'm really not seeing a problem here, but maybe that's because i literally grew up with world of warcraft working the same way as this

serene tulip
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Its just unfortunate that for one of us to succeed at getting what we need the other has to fail

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its un-fun

hasty kernel
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Yeah basically

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It also sucks because you can press need without needing the item (say, if you already have it) which people do

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Its much nicer when everyone gets their own loot

serene tulip
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I think FFXIV has a thing where if you can't (eventually?) equip the item you can't roll need

ionic viper
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yeah

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it also won't let you roll on unique items you already have

hasty kernel
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Really?

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Huh

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It didnt work that way in TERA, so I wasnt sure

ionic viper
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....wait why were you arguing against the loot system of a game you haven't played

serene tulip
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Because UNO has to advertise for GW2 any time someone finds something else more fun 😛

ionic viper
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that's true

hasty kernel
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Well no I had played FFXIV

serene tulip
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@hasty kernel what's your preferred shortening of your name?

hasty kernel
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I just ... never ran into a situation where I had the item I couldve rolled for

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UNOvven

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Or Ovven

serene tulip
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...... can I call you Ovvy?

hasty kernel
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Absolutely not

serene tulip
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drat

ionic viper
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i'm pretty limited in the duties i can run right now so i have seen the same three or four a LOT

hasty kernel
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Ah

buoyant frigate
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There’s so much pun potential with Ovven if you like that

hasty kernel
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Wait, does it prevent you from rolling the same item if you already rolled it earlier, or if you have it anywhere in your posession?

ionic viper
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if you actually have the item

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why on earth would they only let you roll for an item once ever?

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"shucks, i didn't get it this time, guess i'm never getting it if it drops again either!"

hasty kernel
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Oh I meant

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Rolled it earlier in the same instance

serene tulip
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or already had one in your armory

ionic viper
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i've never seen the same item drop twice in the same run but, see above, if you don't already have the item you can roll for it

hasty kernel
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Huh

serene tulip
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@copper lark does your marlboro character have a guild that has exp boosts?

copper lark
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no TT we haven’t unlocked it yet, also the other member ,, in my guild has been ignoring me for 2 days so..

hasty kernel
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I just assumed FFXIV worked the same way as like WoW and TERA, but I guess they did some changes to make it a little better

ionic viper
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i mean, with wowcraft it depends on whether it's random greens (which ffxiv doesn't really have) or actual boss loot

copper lark
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we do have a guild chest tho so if you wanna join for extra space we got u

serene tulip
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I don't really need a lot of extra space

ionic viper
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i mean, i think it does. i haven't played it seriously in a Long Time, despite trying my best lmao

serene tulip
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My inventory is mostly filled with crafting supplies

ionic viper
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oce, do you have a chocobo yet?

copper lark
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same now my retainers are both full

serene tulip
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and like, low level crafting supplies that I can get anywhere

ionic viper
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because when you get one, you can get saddlebags to keep more junk items in

serene tulip
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No

copper lark
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oce if ur still using the brand new ring you get a boost

serene tulip
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where do I get a chocobo?

ionic viper
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you'll get one as part of the main quest

serene tulip
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I need mineral water and I can't make it >:|

hasty kernel
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Oh, so you can only have one of X dungeon item per character and that is what prevents you from rolling need

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Huh

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I never noticed that

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But apparently you can have that item in a retainer and still roll need on it?

serene tulip
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OK

hasty kernel
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With a retainer

ionic viper
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

copper lark
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yeah

ionic viper
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i wouldn't know anything about retainers, you can't have those on a free trial :V

copper lark
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because it’s not on you so the game assumes you threw it

hasty kernel
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Hm, that seems like a bad loophole

copper lark
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not really

serene tulip
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aww, I can't make mineral water

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I'm actually kinda disappointed in that

copper lark
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it’s not like it’s rlly gonna damage the system

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and armour doesn’t sell for much anyway

hasty kernel
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I guess

copper lark
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unless you market board it

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anyway, i love my retainers seli’ka and y’lira if you’re reading this thanks for the gil boys

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bbys *

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i’m not sure if you can actually roll need if you’ve already gotten it

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you can roll greed again

hasty kernel
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Well, regardless, I just prefer instanced loot

copper lark
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that’s cool

hasty kernel
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Do wish more MMOs did that

#

I think Wildstar did

#

But I cant think of many more that do

copper lark
#

rip wildstar rooKek

hasty kernel
#

Oy dont laugh

serene tulip
#

you can do a level adjustments for raids n' stuff, right?

hasty kernel
#

It was such a good game

copper lark
#

nnnno?

serene tulip
#

so like, you could do this one raid I have if you wanted without just like, completely steamrolling it?

copper lark
#

oh there’s level sync

#

yeah

#

titan?

serene tulip
#

Sastasha

copper lark
#

wait no- wdym raids

#

right okay

ionic viper
#

the worst part of level sync is when you go to hit an ability and realise you learned it after the synced level ;w;

copper lark
#

raids are a separate thing in ffxiv

#

raids are 24 man dungeons

hasty kernel
#

Wait you lose abilities if you level sync?

serene tulip
#

I'm mildly upset about lancer's level 15 ability

copper lark
#

yeah because you learn abilities at levels

hasty kernel
#

Huh

#

Interesting

ionic viper
#

lancer gets real good a little higher up, oce

hasty kernel
#

In GW2 you keep everything, but I guess there is a reason for it

ionic viper
#

unovven, please, i'm begging you here, not everything has to be compared to gw2

copper lark
#

also if i could use ruin 3 in a dungeon where another arcanist hasn’t even got ruin 1

#

it’s just ,, not right

ionic viper
#

yeah

serene tulip
#

is it not called ruinaga?

#

so sad

ionic viper
#

knocking everyone's abilities back to whatever they're synced at keeps it even

#

otherwise newbies would get demolished by the higher-level people who do roulettes and stuff

copper lark
#

mmm

hasty kernel
#

Yeah for some reason its just called "X I-IV"

#

Fire III, Fire IV

ionic viper
#

i mean, i prefer it with numbers

#

i can never remember what order to suffixes go in otherwise

serene tulip
#

blizzard blizzara blizzaga

#

is the traditional

hasty kernel
#

Mmh

copper lark
#

it always throws me off when i do levelling duty roulette because i go from 65k hp to 6000

hasty kernel
#

Ive played enough Final Fantasy to probably know it by heart

ionic viper
#

i haven't, so!

hasty kernel
#

And it just sounds better

#

I forgot

serene tulip
#

its kinda weird that you can automate production of things in crafting but not gathering to my knowledge

hasty kernel
#

What was the suffix for IV?

ionic viper
#

14's actually the first final fantasy game i've played 'properly' beyond nicking the controller off my brother a few times when he was playing 10

hasty kernel
#

Ja, right?

ionic viper
#

otherwise it's been one of those series i'm aware of but not really participating in

hasty kernel
#

So it would be Firaja

copper lark
#

14 is one of my favs story wise

hasty kernel
#

I have heard that the shadowbringers story is good

serene tulip
#

I really love 6

copper lark
#

it’s so good it’s so good

#

thancred lovers? ohhh prepare

serene tulip
#

but I also haven't played anything since 10

#

and didn't really like 10's story

hasty kernel
#

6 is the best one, yeah

#

Ive also liked 4 and 7

copper lark
#

issss terra from 6

serene tulip
#

yes

ionic viper
#

shadowbringers' main story was written by the same lady who wrote the dark knight class quests

hasty kernel
#

And 15 had enough cool things for it to have been a mostly positive experience

tardy anchor
#

im gonna b honest w u all i read thancred as "thanatos credentials" every time

copper lark
#

DRK QUESTS ARE SO SAD

hasty kernel
#

Never played 10 though

copper lark
#

FHBRRBSJEN

serene tulip
#

which ones are DRK?

hasty kernel
#

All I know is that Jecht is the one Dissidia character

ionic viper
#

which i guess explains why everyone i know who plays 14 keeps crying over it all

hasty kernel
#

I could never learn

ionic viper
#

@serene tulip drk = dark knight

hasty kernel
#

Seriously his attacks all have weird timings

#

And I dont get what they are

copper lark
#

yoko taro is also working on shb which explains why it’s scary

ionic viper
#

jecht is not a dissidia character you heathen he's from ff10

copper lark
#

screw you jecht

hasty kernel
#

I know he is

#

All Dissidia characters are

ionic viper
#

ok jecht might be terrible but otherworld had no reason to be as good as it was

hasty kernel
#

I only know him from Dissidia

#

Where he is a weird timing-based character who can also incidentally backhand to block all skills

copper lark
#

he’s a blitzball player

#

so that makes some sense

hasty kernel
#

He isnt as good as the best character though

#

Gilgamesh

#

Every attack he randomly pulls out one of 8 swords

#

Ranging from excalibur, which does extra damage and crits on every hit

#

To Excalipoor

#

Which always does exactly 1 damage

#

Also the chicken sword

#

Which I dont think does anything special other than replacing the hit effect with a chickens clucking

copper lark
#

i wanna buy yunas outfit from the mogstation but

#

i’ve spent too much money on the mog station 😔

ionic viper
#

i've seen a few people running about in that and i'm a lil jealous

hasty kernel
#

Did FFXIV ever get Terras outfit?

ionic viper
#

i'm not sure

copper lark
#

no

#

it ,, doesn’t have any outsider character outfits other than ffx

#

i don’t think, at least

ionic viper
#

off the top of my head - yuna/tidus for 10, lightning/snow for 13, squall for 8......

copper lark
#

OH yeah

#

i forgot about lightning

ionic viper
#

cloud, too

copper lark
#

squall you don’t buy you get it after some time

#

yeah i didn’t count those two

ionic viper
#

it kills me bc when i ran the benchmark to check out my au ra boy i picked squall's outfit and he looks SO GOOD in it

copper lark
#

TwT

#

OH i have noctis’ outfit too

#

from the event where he was in eorzea

ionic viper
#

man, i just missed that event and it pains me

copper lark
#

yeah :( it was capped at 50 anyway so i think you might have struggled a little

ionic viper
#

ah

#

well in that case whatever then :V

copper lark
#

i wish i got the regalia but

ionic viper
#

god at some point i will learn to check enemy levels before i go running in

copper lark
#

i dont gamble much in ffxiv

ionic viper
#

"oh hey that thing's on my hunting lo-- why am i dead"

serene tulip
#

levelling up my crafting because I gotta get stuff out of my inventory X'D

#

also because I don't think I have enough time to do the next step in the main quest before I have to leave

ionic viper
#

lmao i just saw someone running around with the name "Bfa Sucks"

hasty kernel
#

What did you find so far in Outer Wilds?

ionic viper
#

at least the're being honest! :'D

hasty kernel
#

Yknow I didnt quite understand what people hated about BFA

ionic viper
#

the plotline feels like a step backwards from legion (where we had unity between the factions) and it also isn't helped by blizzard's inability to write female characters that don't go insane after an arc or two, the heart of azeroth, at launch, felt like a step backwards from legion's artifact weapons, which people weren't happy about having to give up and lose powerful lore items as well as the neat ability/abilities you got with it, warfronts were a heavily advertised feature that didn't pan out thr way people hoped and were disappointing to most of the playerbase, allied races required far too much grinding for something advertised as a main feature of the expansion

#

the allied races were themselves controversial, in part because the nightborne and the highmountain tauren had been neutral parties in legion and their sudden allegiance to one side or the other felt contrived (particularly in the case of the nightborne, who literally only join the horde because tyrande is mean to their leader)

serene tulip
#

blizzard fell to the curse of affluence

ionic viper
#

the resurgence of the faction conflict felt like a kick in the teeth after legion, an entire expansion based around "alliance or horde doesn't matter, we need to work together or the world burns", especially considering the situation right now is "the planet we live on is literally bleeding to death and here we are, squabbling over who gets to play in the blood pools"

serene tulip
#

they forgot how to make good games because they had one good cash cow

#

same with Valve's game development

ionic viper
#

it's also a kick in the teeth to horde players, who yet again get the short end of the stick so far as being the 'bad guys' of the conflict go

hasty kernel
#

Mmh

#

I did wonder why the hell they did the alliance horde conflict again

#

I see it didnt work out

ionic viper
#

it also looks like we're shaping up to a garrosh 2.0 situation with sylvanas

hasty kernel
#

Thats not good

ionic viper
#

all in all, there's a lot of reasons for people to be disappointed with BFA and i'd bet money that that's why, especially with shadowbringers dropping, XIV is seeing so many new players

hasty kernel
#

I guess they mightve tried to cash in on the Vanilla WoW nostalgia but failed to do so

ionic viper
#

i mean, they literally are doing that

hasty kernel
#

Yeah now

#

I dont think it was announced yet when BFA hit

#

Also, after BFA I think all MMOs saw a surge of new players

#

Even ESO did

ionic viper
#

well, yeah

hasty kernel
#

But FFXIV is the closest one I suppose

ionic viper
#

however, Guess Which One Is More Relevant To Me

hasty kernel
#

Wait, hasnt Vanilla WoW also dropped already?

ionic viper
#

not quite yet, iirc

hasty kernel
#

Ah

#

Wonder how long til people realize that it wasnt as good as they remembered

#

That tends to be the fate of "classic" relaunches

ionic viper
#

oh, the funniest part of it is the "not a bug" lists blizz are putting out

hasty kernel
#

Huh?

ionic viper
#

`As we’ve discussed before, the nature of WoW Classic sometimes invokes different memories for different players, and this leads to certain misconceptions for some about what is or isn’t working as intended.

The following is a list of commonly-reported gameplay in WoW Classic that is not actually a bug, and is working as we expect it to...`

hasty kernel
#

Lmao

ionic viper
serene tulip
#

oh my god

#

that's great

#

nostalgia glasses ftw

ionic viper
#

the one that gets me in particular is

#

"Quests objectives and points of interests are not tracked on the map or minimap."

hasty kernel
#

🤦

ionic viper
#

you're damn right they weren't tracked back then

serene tulip
#

"what do you mean I have to Read"

copper lark
#

that’s why i cant do wow the quest things are so long

hasty kernel
#

For the record I do think that not having them be trackable is bad but

#

Thats how it worked

ionic viper
#

thank you for your opinion

#

bu yeah quest objectives showing up on the minimap wasn't added until wrath of the lich king (the second expansion)

hasty kernel
#

"Standing on top of other players while facing away allows spells and attacks to be used."

ionic viper
#

quest items taking up inventory space...... hunter deadzones..... there's gonna be so much stuff in classic that people who've had their nostalgia goggles on are gonna hate

hasty kernel
#

Why do you have to be facing away

ionic viper
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

wide ember
#

due to everybody talking about ffxiv, I downloaded the benchmark, made my characters and am hesitating on actually playing it

#

because according to research I can live my fantasy of owning a house in this game

#

and as low as level 10

copper lark
#

hahaha

#

as long as you have 7 million gil and a dream

hasty kernel
#

You also probably will have to bot, unless they fixed that issue

copper lark
#

no we still have bots

hasty kernel
#

Yeah its not easy to fix

copper lark
#

minigame: report as many bots as you can while standing in lines

#

limsa *

hasty kernel
#

Honestly, I dont like housing with limited plots available

#

Even if it is more interesting for RPs and stuff

#

How many plots are there per server?

copper lark
#

a lot

#

i don’t know the exact number

#

there’s apartments too

#

there’s 4?? housing areas

#

aaand erm

#

12 wards

#

in each area

#

okay there’s 2,880 houses

hasty kernel
#

Thats not as many as I wouldve expected

wide ember
#

so getting a house in the game is not that easier than in real life...

hasty kernel
#

Basically

#

Welcome to capitalism

wide ember
#

renting an apartment costs 500,000 gil

#

I can co-rent one in real life for less than $400

#

dear capitalism: why

#

wait in ffxiv the apartment are actually condos? you seem to be buying it rather than renting it for the month

hasty kernel
#

Yeah, but you have to be a higher level IIRC

copper lark
#

yeah you don’t rent it

#

level is higher and you have to do grand company stuff

hasty kernel
#

Are Apartments even still available?

copper lark
#

yes? i don’t think they’re limited

hasty kernel
#

Ive been told they are

copper lark
#

so they are

#

huh

hasty kernel
#

Something like 100 apartments per building and one building per ward?

copper lark
#

500

#

that’s how much room they have

#

i dunno

hasty kernel
#

Thats a lot, so probably there are still available ones

copper lark
#

people want houses more than apartments for chocobo stables

#

i want an apartment to hang up all my portraits

hasty kernel
#

Wait Im reading that limited housing is because their server architecture doesnt really allow unlimited housing?

copper lark
#

i don’t know??? i don’t know the technical stuff

#

i also 1. do not own a house or apartment and 2. don’t want to own a house or apartment

hasty kernel
#

Hm, it seems that trying to fix the mess that FFXIV 1.0 was left them with some infrastructure problems theyre still ironing out

copper lark
#

that doesn’t surprise me

#

wow when i think abt shadowbringers,,,, i die irl it’s so good

ionic viper
#

i mean, given what they started out with, i'd say ffxiv is pretty damn good

#

i'll be honest, the whole kerfuffle with rebooting 1.0 into ARR fascinates me

hasty kernel
#

Oh for sure

#

Its basically unprecedented

ionic viper
#

and you gotta admit

#

the end of an era cinematic is a work of art

hasty kernel
#

Yup

#

Its an event like no other

ionic viper
#

if you're gonna shut off the servers, that is how you do it

hasty kernel
#

And given their circumstances, FFXIVs technical issues are mostly minor

#

Limited housing sucks but

#

Its not crucial

ionic viper
copper lark
#

i also like how it’s used as lore now

ionic viper
#

YEAH

copper lark
#

IS THAT YSHTOLA-

ionic viper
#

it is

copper lark
#

I NEED TO rewATCHTHAT

ionic viper
#

you see y'shtola, papalymo and yda, and thancred praying to the twelve

copper lark
#

I DIDNT REALISE THE WHOLE GANG WAS THERE TT

#

louisoix ur a legend

ionic viper
#

not quite the whole gang!

#

but yeah

#

i have feelings about louisoix and i didn't even play 1.0 to know him blobsobreach

#

man, i'm just gonna have answers on loop all day now aren't i

#

i love susan calloway's voice so much

copper lark
#

loool

#

the person who does ffxiv soundtrack is wonderful

hasty kernel
#

They have a dedicated orchestre for it, dont they?

copper lark
#

yeah but someone has to write the music don’t they

#

it may have been different for each expac ? i don’t think so tho

#

the shb soundtrack is gorgeous tho, there’s a song everyone memes but it’s really good

hasty kernel
#

I cant imagine its just one guy/gal writing all the music

copper lark
#

multiple people, soken gets his name put to it more often

#

he’s done the most

ionic viper
#

okay but shadowbringers gave us the boss theme, the trailer music, and lest we forget the music for the twinning

copper lark
#

and rak’tika greatwoods theme!!! la HEE

hasty kernel
#

Man I wish there were MMOs where Players could create proper content

copper lark
#

wdym

hasty kernel
#

Well, like creating dungeons and raids

#

Maybe even small maps

#

Campaigns

#

Stuff like that

copper lark
#

like super mario maker?

hasty kernel
#

Yeah basically

copper lark
#

that puts fear into me

hasty kernel
#

Wdym

#

Oh

#

Ohhhh

#

Troll raids

#

Gotcha

#

Well thats what a voting system would be for, I suppose

serene tulip
#

Omg

#

I just realized that my ffxiv character is like, the spitting image of someone who goes to my gym x.x

severe plover
#

OOP I guess that’s how it goes sometimes

#

Now u have to rename ur character to ‘Fantasy name of person at gym

#

Adding fantasy before anything makes it funny’s

#

Fantasy costco is peak comedy

copper lark
#

fantasy costco, where all your dreams come true

#

got a deal for you!

#

also i’m watching aggretsuko season 2 and. why is komaeda here

hasty kernel
#

Ahhh

#

I assume you mean Anai

copper lark
#

no

hasty kernel
#

Actually wait, no

copper lark
#

the horse guy

hasty kernel
#

Tadano?

copper lark
#

I LOVE HAIDAAA 🥺🥺🥺

#

i dunno his name

hasty kernel
#

Who doesnt

copper lark
#

i just met him

hasty kernel
#

But yeah Aggretsuko is very good

#

Poor Haida though

copper lark
#

i’d kill a man for haida he’s so good

hasty kernel
#

I just wish he got more character development

#

We know like nothing about him

#

I dont think we ever saw him jam either

copper lark
#

i mean i think it goes with the thing like

#

hmmm i dunno

#

i think retsukos perception of people changes how we see them

#

he SOUNDS like komaeda too god i hate this

#

yes, tadano

hasty kernel
#

Dont worry, he isnt Komaeda

#

And yeah but

#

Some characters do get more development

#

Even Fenneko did

copper lark
#

you misunderstand me because i like komaeda

hasty kernel
#

???

#

??????

copper lark
#

i don’t like the things he does

hasty kernel
#

Oh you mean as a villain

copper lark
#

i mean kinda

hasty kernel
#

I almost thought youre one of the Komaeda apologists

copper lark
#

ohh trust me i’m not

#

i blame him for mikan

hasty kernel
#

I didnt like Mikan

#

Too fanservice-y

copper lark
#

true, she deserves better

hasty kernel
#

She is probably my third-least favourite character because of the fanservice

#

Without it she would be average I guess

#

Best character is Gundam

copper lark
#

akane best girl

hasty kernel
#

Akane is alright, but she just feels like a weaker Sakura

copper lark
#

and that’s exactly why we should love her

hasty kernel
#

Not weaker in the sense of less powerful

copper lark
#

she’s hina and sakura child

#

sakuras *

hasty kernel
#

But weaker as in less hm

#

Interesting?

copper lark
#

i’m gonna have to disagree with you there

#

she was so fun to get to know

hasty kernel
#

Aoi was great yeah

#

I mean yes, but were comparing her to Sakura

#

There is only one character in DR2 I actively dislike

copper lark
#

compared to sakura her story was much better imo

hasty kernel
#

Eh, hard disagree

#

Saionji

#

I dont like Saionji at all

copper lark
#

who

hasty kernel
#

Dancer

copper lark
#

oh ,, hiyoko

#

hiyoko was annoying i don’t like her either

hasty kernel
#

Less annoying and more just needlessly cruel for me

#

Other than that, Kirigiri was always good

copper lark
#

why do people refer to them by their last names

#

like, actual question bc it always confuses me

hasty kernel
#

No idea

#

I guess its easier to remember?

#

Except Gundam

#

I just call him Gundam

#

I love Gundam

#

Gundam is the best

copper lark
#

my NAME IS GUNDHAM TANAKA

hasty kernel
#

Fatkuya Togami and Baby Boss were also fun

#

Peko was alright

#

Teru was almost as bad as Saionji

copper lark
#

“baby boss” be nice to fuyuhiko he’s my favourite character

hasty kernel
#

Oh I love him

#

But you cant deny that "baby boss" is the best nickname for him

copper lark
#

;_;

hasty kernel
#

Did you play V3?

copper lark
#

not yet

hasty kernel
#

Mmh

copper lark
#

i haven’t played them only watched

hasty kernel
#

Well, V3 has the character that to me is just better Komaeda

copper lark
#

i watched nicob play a little of it

#

rantaro? is that

hasty kernel
#

Nah

#

Rantaro is a very different role

copper lark
#

thennn

hasty kernel
#

Kokichi Oma

copper lark
#

OH NO

copper lark
#

No wonder i see everyone thirsting on twitter over him

hasty kernel
#

Oh he is great

#

Easily the highlight of V3

copper lark
#

i don’t like v3 bc

#

why are there so many monobears

hasty kernel
#

Oh you definitely havent played/seen it then

#

Because if you had, you would have bigger issues with it

copper lark
#

it’s hard to get into it because of solely that though

hasty kernel
#

Because of the Monobears?

copper lark
#

yeah

#

and the ,, mechs

hasty kernel
#

Exisals?

#

Wack

copper lark
#

ew what the heck

#

anai shut up i don’t wanna hear you rap-

serene tulip
#

Haida is best boy

#

but Fenneko is like, my soul

hasty kernel
#

I wish I had her deadpan laugh

#

That laugh is powerful

tardy anchor
#

ok i love....the superfake cutesy doe girl

#

shes So much fun

#

ALSO THE COOL BIRD N HIPPO

serene tulip
#

Gorilla?

#

the Hippo was gossip mom

#

who was cool

tardy anchor
#

YEAH THATS WHAT I MEANT...GORILLA

hasty kernel
#

Tsunoda

#

And Washimi and Gori

tardy anchor
#

yupp

hasty kernel
#

I really like Washimi and Gori

#

Theyre great

tardy anchor
#

Been a while since i watched

hasty kernel
#

Its a shame the second season didnt have another one of Washimis kicks

serene tulip
#

Fenneko needs to hang out with Washimi

#

and Haida needs to hang out with Gori

hasty kernel
#

Im not sure they would mesh well, honestly

serene tulip
#

omg I got some really pretty armor

#

aww I can't dye it 😦

copper lark
#

I LOve TADANO

#

uh oh

#

god damn it they were so cute i’m

serene tulip
#

Psh

#

like my character would defend folques or however you spell his name

#

You've made your bed now get trampled by boars you dummy

#

Foulques*

hasty kernel
#

Ah, you got to the good part, Syd

copper lark
#

PUNCH HIM HAIDA

serene tulip
#

MAKE OUT WITH HIM HAIDA

copper lark
#

okay that’s very valid

#

was that the whole season

#

,,, yikes

chilly briar
#

what'd I walk in on

hasty kernel
#

Aggretsuko talk

#

And yeah the seasons are short, but good

copper lark
#

no,, that wasn’t good

tardy anchor
#

you all like puns,

hasty kernel
#

I ... dont get it?

#

I must be stupid or something

tardy anchor
#

faux leather

hasty kernel
#

Oh

tardy anchor
#

fake

hasty kernel
#

Ohhhhhhhhh

tardy anchor
#

so, a fake cow, who is your enemy

hasty kernel
#

Yeah I know what Faux means, I just didnt make that connection

#

That is funny

tardy anchor
#

:3 outpunned,

hasty kernel
#

I guess its because I pronounce those 2 a bit differently?

#

Then again Ive stretched words worse when I made puns

ionic viper
#

they're pronounced exactly the same

chilly briar
#

how pun ishing

#

I've been with my friend all weekend who is over from aus and it's been a very punny weekend

hasty kernel
#

Are they?

#

I pronounce faux as in fuh, and foe as in, well, fough

#

Also is telling dad jokes without having children a "faux pa"?

tardy anchor
#

yes

upbeat scroll
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eyy

hasty kernel
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Oh, so they are

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Ive been saying that word wrong the whole time

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I blame the french

upbeat scroll
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pho leather

chilly briar
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sounds spicy

buoyant frigate
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Beef cutlets are pho leather

serene tulip
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:I

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I would like you to take that back and make me unread it please

buoyant frigate
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Excellent point! Excellent point. But no

serene tulip
tropic garden
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Seems you've found yourself a...pho foe, octo

serene tulip
#

ff folks

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when do I get my chocobo?

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I wanna sing the song while I ride

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deet doo doo doo dee doodle doot doot doo

serene tulip
tropic garden
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ugh, was wondering where i dropped that

silver maple
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volfreds master plan

serene tulip
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Come on ven you can't just leave that around for anyone to find! Was it the copy about the Patriarchy reduction interference and destruction emitter?

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I like to call it the PRIDE cannon

north hamlet
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unsure if they can/will accept the donations but it's still nice to see

upbeat scroll
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unsure if the person who made the gofundme will even give the money

north hamlet
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the gofundme is unlikely to be a scam, although the logistics of getting it to them are still unclear

serene tulip
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morning, ya goobers

ionic viper
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good morning

copper lark
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o/

ionic viper
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they say, at 5:30pm

serene tulip
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How's folks?

copper lark
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the syd mood today is: sad but ffxiv exists

serene tulip
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That sounds not too dissimilar to my mood

copper lark
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okay i just got the praetorium in duty roulette

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maybe everything sucks

upbeat scroll
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Am tired and half to do math

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Woe is me

serene tulip
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what are the good tank classes?

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I think I'd be better at tank than DPS

copper lark
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erm

serene tulip
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I need to get lancer to 30 to do gunbreaker, right?

copper lark
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haha,,, no,,

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you need to get to 60

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and its also shb exclusive

serene tulip
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Boo

copper lark
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I JUST GOT 10 MILLION EXP

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: O

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thats beautiful

upbeat scroll
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10 million xp? You finally reached level 3 then

copper lark
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ghfjbfdg

serene tulip
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well apparently gladiator seems more like a DPS class than lancer is

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wait, nevermind

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now that I look at the actual numbers

copper lark
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gladiator sucks

ionic viper
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i mean, gladiator's a tank class, so,

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*i have often dreamed, of a far-off place, where a great warm welcome will be waiting for me

copper lark
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a bop

honest glade
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Das a cute Miqo'te

copper lark
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all miqo'tes a cute: an essay by me

ionic viper
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v'rahna is the cutest tho

copper lark
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politely disagree because my miqo'te is in fact, the cutest

ionic viper
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:0

copper lark
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its just the truth im sorry

ionic viper
copper lark
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okay truce

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theyre both the cutest

ionic viper
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miqo'tes in general are just Adorable

serene tulip
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there's one I ran into as an NPC who had a custom leather helmet

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like, for Miqo'te

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with leather ears

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it was adorable

copper lark
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when ur posing w an npc and then

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you leave group poser

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and someones watching you-

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also, au'ra, elezen and miqo'te all get custom hats

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for they ears

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lalas too i think

hasty kernel
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You mean the hats are altered so that their ears dont clip?

serene tulip
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some of em'

hasty kernel
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Well I imagine the hats that dont clip dont need it

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Still, thats cool

serene tulip
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also they made the tails react to like, emotes and stuff

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They did a lot of modeling for this game

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I don't envy the folks who made it

hasty kernel
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No kidding

sharp grail
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is there a way to play, like Only the character creator

ionic viper
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yes

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you can do the character creator and save your kiddos and if you want, you can try running the cutscenes to see them in action too

sharp grail
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does it have.... all races....

ionic viper
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yup!

sharp grail
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im gonna pass out

ionic viper
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yeah my friend linked me that and like the next day i'd downloaded the trial of the game, so,

sharp grail
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im not interested in the actual game bc if i get into it itll be so time consuming and also the complete edition is 60 dollars but....... love messing around w character creators

hasty kernel
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The character creator is pretty good, though for some reason Ive found the benchmark runs worse than the actual game

ionic viper
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i found the benchmark only really stuttered at two specific points, when the entire screen got covered in spell effects at once

hasty kernel
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My PC isnt very good so it stuttered on more points

copper lark
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its not so their ears dont clip

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its because their ears wouldnt fit,, under a hat like that

upbeat scroll
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Realisms

hasty kernel
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Oh

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Must be a pain to put on though

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You gotta get your ears in the ear-shaped holes

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Its like putting on a shirt, except you cant even see the shirt

copper lark
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dont think abt it too hard

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thats why viera cant wear hats tho

hasty kernel
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Now that youve said that

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I will write a 36 page disseration about why it doesnt make sense

copper lark
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ok

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and i will most likely

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pretend u didnt

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: D

sharp grail
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im making the greenest girl possible

copper lark
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:o

upbeat scroll
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Gween

serene tulip
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omg @hasty kernel the quantum signpost

cedar rock
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someone say green blurryeyes

serene tulip
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green?

upbeat scroll
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I wonder how hard it would be to make hedwyn in a character creator

copper lark
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i would try tbh

upbeat scroll
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On one hand he's pretty generic for a fantasy characer, but on the other hand he's very generic for a fantasy character

copper lark
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lemme just log out

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imma attempt to make him

upbeat scroll
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"Oh wow is that the default male human character with skintone 3?" Nope actually I spend 6 hours making hedwyn

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Like, no shade buttt

copper lark
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,,its the nose i cant get

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this is the best i can do

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now i wanna make red

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im already giving up

hasty kernel
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Quantum Signpost?

sharp grail
serene tulip
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the quantum vale on hearthstone or whatever its called has a sign post that also has the quantum thingy

sharp grail
serene tulip
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right now I'm trying to go through a hole in the floor that doesn't want to appear near me, apparently.