#off-topic-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 145

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:40 PM

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No 2 weeks is about the right pace

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But in FFXIV it took me a week to get to level 35

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:40 PM

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well

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its taken sparrow 3 days

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so..

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Leasurly pace, remember

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:40 PM

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i thinkthats a you problem pal

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Im juggling like 7 games at once

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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you also didnt level to 35

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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If you focus on GW2 its less

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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you would have been 25

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Right

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Thats worse

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:41 PM

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its how you played the game my friend

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mmos arent designed so you can play more than 1

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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I mean I only play 1 MMO

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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,,,exactly

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Id also argue that that is bad design

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If you need to spend as much time on a game as you would on a job, its a bit ludicrous

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:42 PM

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dude

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stop comparing our games im begging you

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they may be both mmos

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but one is pay once the other is sub based

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you cannot compare them fairly

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we're both biased so just quit it okay?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:43 PM

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I mean I guess

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I just think sub-based MMOs are a bad idea in general

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:43 PM

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we know

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:43 PM

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And Im not saying that just because I know someone who may or may not have screwed up his life for a while because of WoW

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:44 PM

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My mothers been playing WoW for 15 years now

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trust me i feel u

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I mean just playing it is one thing

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I know a guy who has been casually playing WoW for 9 years and he is fine

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He mostly just hangs out with friends and relaxes

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But there are some who take it way too far

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And MMOs like WoW kinda prey on that

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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bro

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blizzard sucks we know this

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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I would argue FFXIV also does it

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:48 PM

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?? how

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Same gear treadmill with increasingly long and hard to reach gear sets that inevitably get invalidated as well

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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youre ,,, upset about,,, getting better gear as you go on?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Unless they drastically changed it since a friend quit it like, 3 years ago?

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:49 PM

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im confused, gear isnt hard to get at all

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its given to you in msq

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:50 PM

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The best gear?

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:50 PM

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,,yes

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Im talking specifically endgame here

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:50 PM

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you can also get gear from raids, dungeons, trials

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its,, really not that hard?

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some of it you can even buy

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:51 PM

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They mustve changed it then, because I was told its basically the same as WoW, just with a different paintjob

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Curious how they keep the "hardcore" raiders around though if its easy to get

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:51 PM

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i mean

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the gear is a roulette

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you dunno whats gonna appear in the chests

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but they reward you for redoing dungeons and trials with exp when you use the roulette and stuff

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bear in mind

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ffxiv is the only mmo ive really gotten into

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:53 PM

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So, its a random chance to get the gear you want, or you buy it for a lot of gold

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Whats the droprate like, fairly low?

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:53 PM

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no?

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drop rate is fine

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casting, healing, fending, striking, aiming and maiming

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are the sets for the classes

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you have a 1/6 chance of getting the item you need

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and the loot rules are a dice roll

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if you dont like grinding for things why play an mmo,,

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:55 PM

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No I mean what are the odds you get any of those as a drop?

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Lets say, the Kings items

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Apparently those are BiS

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:55 PM

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,,,

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i dunno what any of that means

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at any treasure coffer you get loot

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its always armour or weapons or accessories

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:56 PM

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BiS

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Best in Slot

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Its basically the best gear

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:56 PM

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i havent even hit the endgame ??

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theres no best gear for a game thats constantly updating, also

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:56 PM

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There is

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It gets invalidated

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But there is, until that happens

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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and i dont even know what the kings items are

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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And thats what hardcore players constantly grind for

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I think you may have misunderstood my idea of grinding

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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i dont know why youre even arguing this

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Its trying to get the BiS gear which usually is locked behind very hard content with very low drop rate

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Encouraging people to spend many hours on it

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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because unovven likes to argue everything, i've noticed.

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Which often leads to major video game addiction

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Thats what I meant by preying on it

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:58 PM

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its,, how the game works

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if GW2 has no grind at all, no reason to keep going forward i dont see a point

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Again, the idea is to make the grind optional, and varied

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Well, less "the grind", and more whatever goal you set

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 5:59 PM

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it is optional, you dont need the best gear

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dude! please! im begging you to stop

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we have our opinions, you clearly dont like my game and im not interested in yours

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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If you want to do the content everyone is doing, it kinda isnt

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Thats the big problem with the "endgame" as it were

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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please dont ignore me : )

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Im not, Im just trying to explain what Im saying

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Also I dont dont like FFXIV, I dont like some of the things its doing

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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They asked u to stop tho

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:01 PM

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And I do think that being aware of potential issues with game design even in a game you like is important

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But fair enough

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 6:01 PM

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UNOvven, you've been asked to drop the point, so drop it, please.

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:02 PM

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On a totally unrelated sidenote, has someone had that weird thing where the sidebar of your Discord keeps jumping up or down on its own?

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Its been doing that for a couple days now, and reloading the page doesnt do anything

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:02 PM

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are you on web discord?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Yep

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:02 PM

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theres,, the issue probably

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browsercord isnt great

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Its never happened before though, and Ive been using discord for uh

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3 years probably

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Maybe 4, I dont remember

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Huh wild

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Its weird

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I usually just use the program

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Works better tbh

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I mean maybe its telling me to just uh

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Clean up the serverlist

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My PC doesnt like the program

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Everything starts to lag just that tiny bit

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Even games, which is not good

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On another sidenote. Limbo is free on the EGS now

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So I guess, pick that up if you havent yet

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:09 PM

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my free company w my friend currently consists of

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me and 2 of my alts

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her and one of her alts

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B) we have friends

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Limbo is like

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a key facet of gaming history

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that everyone should play just for context

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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i love limbo and the other one

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but i suck at platformers

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:12 PM

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I never played it because I really dont like horror

tardy anchor Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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ohhh i started limbo just earlier! its so cool

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Also, companies are like guilds, right? So is each individual character part of a guild, instead of just the account?

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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yeah

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Thats actually kinda cool

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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you need 4 people to actually make one which sucks

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Helps the RP part of RPG

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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but your alts count

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Ah

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Yeah that is unfortunate

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Especially since I was never a fan of really big guilds

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Ive been with a guild thats a friend I made in GW2 and her family for a couple years now, and its really nice

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Limbo might not have been the first Atmospheric Platformer™ but it was definitely a huge inspiration for the genre

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Like, half life wasn't the first FPS, but it certainly revolutionized the genre

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Are there enough games in it for it to be a full genre?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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I think so

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Mmh

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Half Life

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Back when Valve made games

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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good games*

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Instead of just buying up other peoples games

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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artifact

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Right

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That was a colossal failure

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Though Id say its less on the game itself and more on valve being greedy

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I think it was a clever idea completely mismanaged

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Mmh

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The idea itself looked interesting

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If it was free, I wouldve checked it out

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But it would definitely have been niche

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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I really liked the gameplay

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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like no mans sky?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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But boy was it expensive

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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excellent concept

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poor execution

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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This might be hard to believe

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But Artifact failed worse than NMS

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:17 PM

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yikes

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nms brought it back tho so im not mad

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:17 PM

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True

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Doubt the same is gonna happen to Artifact though

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Valve just cuts off games that fail

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:17 PM

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one of the problems is that valve's management system doesn't really allow for failure

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I've heard its hugely political

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Kinda

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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so people don't work on projects they aren't confident will succeed, even if its good

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Officially, there is no hierarchy or stuff like that

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Inofficially, its that but worse

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Mainly Cliques

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Like, I think that folks saw the reaction to its announcement, and all the Talent™ dropped the project

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it was a really cool system tho :<

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you had to think a lot more about it than any other card game I've played

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like, you don't want to drop everything in the first lane and have nothing for the third. and you don't want to lose two lanes, but you also need to protect all three enough that they can't kill the ancient

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if they hadn't screwed up card balance so badly it could have been a good game

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it really highlighted why the trading card system doesn't work for digital products though.

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:21 PM

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I dont think that was it, actually

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The problem was that Valve wanted money

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So they made the greediest business model possible

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Which backfired

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After that though, yeah once the game fell they just kinda dropped it

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I mean, I'm not going to say that wasn't a part of it

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Id say it was the central thing

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Even mediocre card games last longer than that

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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but I just think the bigger issue was that the game was a boobie prize for employees and was poorly managed

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I can also see it being fairly complex

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Though I didnt like the arrow RNG conceptually

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And Im more a fan of the more traditional card game complexity of MTG

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Or the bonkers complexity of YGO

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Some decks have combos that take 40+ steps

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Half of which youre improvising

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:24 PM

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artifact was a card game for Johnny's

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Hm

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Idk, there wasnt any of that ridiculous complex nonsense that Johnnys love

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https://i.redd.it/cocta7770py21.png

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Like this

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This is what peak Johnny looks like

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(If you dont want to read the whole thing, someone made MTG into UNO)

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:25 PM

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the strategy was what johnnys like

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:25 PM

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As in, its literally UNO

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Mmh

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Idk, it felt kind of like a mix of Spike and Timmy moreso than Johnny to me

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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there were a broader range of win conditions

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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With elements that both didnt like

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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and lose conditions

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and ways to get there

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Wasnt there just "destroy 2 towers or destroy the ancient"?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Yeah, but if you want to simplify it like that magic is "lower their hp to 0 or make them draw their entire deck"

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Or the other wincons

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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or play one of the 4 cards that says win the game

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Uh

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There are like 80 of those

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There are 4 just in standard alone

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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shrug

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you get what I mean

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:27 PM

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But yeah, fair enough

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There was a variety of strategies, but theyre all more Spikes territory than Johnnys

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Johnny wants to create wild and complicated decks

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Decks that do weird things

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And Artifacts first set felt a bit too simple for that

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Johnny isn't just about creating complicated decks, its about being clever

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it has to be

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but the strategy was much deeper than magic's

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or had the potential to be

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Actually, the MTG definition is specifically creative and complex decks

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But I guess if you define it that way, I can see that

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Though Im not sure I agree on it being deeper than Magic

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:29 PM

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creative and complex aren't mutually inclusive in the definition of Johnny IMO

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I mean, its not

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but that's because magic is like, 30+ years old

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Mind you I dont think Magic is the deepest card game (hello there Netrunner, surprised I havent mentioned you in a while), but just the ability to play from the grave and the turns thing

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:29 PM

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and has had a lot of time to develop

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Does a lot

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Thats fair I suppose

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Idk, creative and complex fit together

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Or do you mean that they arent neccessarily part of the Johnny thing

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:30 PM

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oce,,, theres a card game in ffxiv-

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:30 PM

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I mean, there was a card game in FFVIII but it weren't that good X'D

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not that I didn't spend hours trying to collect all the cards

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:30 PM

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The way Maro defined Johnny/Jenny was uh

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"Johnny is the creative gamer to whom Magic is a form of self-expression. Johnny likes to win, but he wants to win with style. It’s very important to Johnny that he win on his own terms. As such, it's important to Johnny that he's using his own deck. Playing Magic is an opportunity for Johnny to show off his creativity."

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Note: that was before they included the Jenny part and I was too lazy to add it everywhere

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:31 PM

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complexity isn't even in that sentence 😛

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Right

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Its just that the creative decks tend to be complex

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:32 PM

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tend to does not equal have to

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Hm

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Yeah I guess

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Also FFXIVs card game feels more like that board game with double-sided circles, one black one white, than a card game

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What was it called

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Reversi, thats the one

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Or Othello

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:34 PM

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unrelatedly, at my gym there's one bar that has deeper/sharper knurling than the rest(The Ohio Powerbar™) and my hands are all raw

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:34 PM

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A "knurling"?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:35 PM

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9Zwi0ZAUCUc/hqdefault.jpg

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:36 PM

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yeah triple triad is barely a card game

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you just use cards

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:36 PM

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that was the game in FF8!

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I wouldnt mind that part, but the board is a bit small

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Yeah FFXIV does a lot of callbacks

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It has the golden saucer where you play Minigames for example

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Its basically FFs greatest hits when it comes to that

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I'm sorry

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:37 PM

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that’s what ffxiv is

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:37 PM

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but does it have crossdressing with big ol' muscle-bros?

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:37 PM

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it’s a mashup of all the best parts of ff

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:37 PM

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because you can't say that it has FFs greatest hits without that

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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yoshi-p wants to make clothing gender neutral !!

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Its worse

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They used the inferior version of Gilgamesh's theme

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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that’s something at least

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I need to figure out a way to hack the game so the music is all the FFVI music

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at least for battles and bosses

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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you could probably mod it

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Instead of using this one

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZolvwYg_Ohk

YouTube

Riley Tan

Lightning Returns Original Soundtrack PLUS [Track 18 Clash on the ...

Publisher : Square Enix From : Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII Original Soundtrack PLUS Track Title : ビッグブリッヂの死闘 - ユスナーン Ver. - Arrangement of "Battle ...

▶ Play video

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:39 PM

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[ def hasn’t modded their game]

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Listen to it

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Its glorious

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:40 PM

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ffxiii

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sigh

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i haven’t played it but i haven’t heard good things in general :c

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serah is cute tho

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Its a weird mess

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Basically

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It didnt suffer from FFXVs issues

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But there were a lot of narrow hallways, the lore kinda stumbled over itself, and I think people didnt like the gameplay much?

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Final Fantasy has kinda struggled with the mainline games for a while

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I wonder if were ever gonna get FFXVI

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:45 PM

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probably

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i love ffxv but

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there’s a lot i’m upset with

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Yeah

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The love interest barely being a character

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Chapter 13

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The end being kinda rushed until they went back to fix it

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Chapter 13

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Aranea being shafted

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Chapter 13

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 6:46 PM

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what do you mean, ignis is totally a character

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:46 PM

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LMAO

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i forgot chapter 13

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which one is that

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Ignis is the love interest for the player, no the MC

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The one where you only have the ring

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And youre walking through the enemy base

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:47 PM

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oh

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Yeah

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That one

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Its all been downhill since FFVI

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:48 PM

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I also wouldnt mind another story in FFXVs universe

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:48 PM

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i will admit, after we finished it me and my sister were lying on the floor crying lmaooo

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Eh, kinda

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FFVI was the best one

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But FFVII was still actually good, even if its a bit overhyped

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And I do think FFXV wasnt bad

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Just not great

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Folks have the nostalgia goggles something fierce for FFVII

forest narwhal Jul 18, 2019, 6:48 PM

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FF XV has poor battle system

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:48 PM

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True

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But others take it too far

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And dismiss it entirely

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Even though it is a good game

forest narwhal Jul 18, 2019, 6:49 PM

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At least it seems to have poor battle system

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Eh, I liked the battle system

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I get the complaints, but I personally enjoyed it

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I think the biggest issue with FF is that its gotten too big for its own good

forest narwhal Jul 18, 2019, 6:49 PM

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FF XV were made for how long? 10 years?

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Originally FF XV was made for PS3 if i'm right

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Something like that

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:50 PM

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i dunno

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:50 PM

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It was originally a FFXIII game

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:50 PM

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nomura was also the original director ,,, lol

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mr nomura i love you but ohhh man

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SPEAKING OF yoko taro is working on ffxiv now and i’m so happy

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i can def see some of his input coming through in shb

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:51 PM

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Part of FFs woes is just that the style theyre using is expensive and complex

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While not neccessarily being better

forest narwhal Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Well.. Really i'm not into FF XIV, cause i think every MMO RPGs are borring (press 1, 2, 3 and for first 200h ), but FF XIV has nice soundtrack

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Personas stuff is much easier to make and render

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While still looking hella good

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Speaking of which, did you finish Persona yet

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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no i’ve been consumed by ffxiv

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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But Ryuji

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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i know 😔 i miss him

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:52 PM

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Did you get to uh

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The last phantom thief yet?

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The one with the fluffy hair

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:54 PM

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nani

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oh haru? i haven’t met her but i’ve gotten spoilers

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Ah

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What do you think

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:54 PM

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i’m almost the same person as her

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which is scary

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:55 PM

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Wait what

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Youre a sinnamon roll?

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 6:57 PM

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The term sinnamon roll gives me heartburn lmao

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

i don’t know anything abt her character

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

Ah

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

i just know that she’s

definitely a lesbian
likes flowers
shy

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

You will enjoy it, Im sure

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

also pink hair

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:58 PM

#

Well, youre right on 2 out of 3

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

nani

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 6:59 PM

#

I dont think her hair is pink actually

#

Its more of a light shade of brown, really

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

before you get your hopes up, it's the second and third. haru is regrettably not a lesbian.

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

oh i know

#

i know persona isn’t good enough to play me like that

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:00 PM

#

Oh well, technically the third is also only partially accurate

#

Since her phantom thief form is certainly not shy

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

the game won't let me kiss ryuji it definitely wouldn't let haru kiss a girl

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

but i’m a lesbian and i like her

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

Mmh

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

so she’s a lesbian too

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

valid

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

truth

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

Wait but if that is tru

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

By in ur heart if all hearts she’s a lesbian lmaoo and that’s what counts

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

That is in fact how it works

#

grumbles at cassandra

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

Hi that’s me w Royce, in my essay I will

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

Then anyone she likes becomes lesbian

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

sure

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 7:01 PM

#

Royce is gay because IM GAY next

#

Yeah Chief

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

where's the problem

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

It would become a fast-spreading condition

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Good

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

the world needs more lesbians anyway

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

where's the problem

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Well it would affect animals

#

So no dogs in a couple generations

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Transbians: come out of the closet now, Syd commands it

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

you know, that's not where i thought you were going with that one.

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Where did you think I was going with that one

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

i mean those penguins with their new chick are doing just fine

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:02 PM

#

Yes but Syd

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

shh

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

All of them

ionic viper Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

idk but not to "no animals"

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

I mean

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

Hi lesbians can have whatever junk they want, next

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

It just seemed like a logical conclusion

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

some stupid amount of giraffe sex is gay, but there are still giraffes

severe plover Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

Steaming cold take here un

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

like 96%

#

94%?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:03 PM

#

I went with Dogs because cats have that stereotype of not liking anyone

#

Which is totally not true

#

But I gotta cover all the bad joke bases

#

Also how did the long horses evolve like that

#

Were there no predators to prey on them?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

evolution don't care about no "reasons"

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

long horse?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

giraffe

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

ohhh

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

Not reasons, but there has to be some logic to it

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:05 PM

#

i have a small long horse his name is luca

#

he’s a whippet

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:06 PM

#

Giraffes just defy logic

#

~~Is he called that because he can whippet real good with his neck~~

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:06 PM

#

no! his tail actually

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

Apparently it has a lot to do with dominance and heirarchies and stuff

#

so its not as wholesome as gay giraffe scientists might like

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

So a high neck was a sign of status?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

They'll fight each other, then the winner mounts the loser

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

oh i thought it was to do with food

#

they had to reach tree leaves

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

I mean

#

that's for the necks

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

oh right

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:07 PM

#

not for the surprisingly high gay sex rate

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

Yknow what, I still accept it as the reason they evolved high necks

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

sorry lol i stopped paying attention to chat

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:08 PM

#

Just so they could do this from higher up

#

https://pics.me.me/pathetic-36696562.png

#

Gaaah

#

Discord

#

Stop jumping around

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:13 PM

#

hey for anyone interested, theres a space exploration themed sale on steam for the weekend

#

theres quite a few good ones in there, including prey and its dlc both 80% off

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:16 PM

#

I wish there were more of those like Outer Wilds

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:18 PM

#

i wish there were a million games like the outer wilds

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:18 PM

#

Its so good

#

Though the last part in the story was a pain

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

i beat it like 2 weeks ago and im still just completely enamored with it

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

I mean my main issue with the last part was the amount of waiting

#

Because the end part is tricky because of those damn Anglerfish

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:19 PM

#

dark bramble still haunts my nightmares

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:20 PM

#

Mmh

#

But beyond that

#

And Dark Bramble in general because I couldnt navigate it at all

#

It was great

#

The puzzles were fun and intuitive, exploration was great, and the sound design was excellent

#

Did you get to the Quantum Moon?

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

yea i believe i did just about everything by the time i beat the game, it took me quite a while

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:21 PM

#

Mmh

#

Just know that a lot of people actually skipped the Quantum Moon on the first playthrough

#

Which is a shame because its a really cool place

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

oh wow interesting

#

yea it really is

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:22 PM

#

Its technically not required

#

And you can solve the entire mystery before you even find out how to

#

There was one thing I found a bit disappointing

#

||In the Ash Twin project, you can wait until it activates and see it happen. However, the black hole is blocked off by an invisible wall, so you cant go in it or fire a probe in it||

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

ohhh i hadnt even thought to wait to see that

#

i was actually meaning to test out something if i played it again

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:24 PM

#

Hm, what would that be?

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:25 PM

#

||I was wondering if you removed the advanced warp core from the ash twin project and then died, would it give you the 'you died' screen and act as if the game ended, or would it do the regular repeat wake up||

#

Considering the amount of surprise 'endings' they added to the game i wouldnt be surprised if that was a thing

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:26 PM

#

||The first. It happened to me a bunch of times when I tried to do it because the anglerfish can go to hell||

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:26 PM

#

ahhhh cool

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:26 PM

#

Did you do the trick with taking out the black hole after firing a probe into it?

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:26 PM

#

haha no but i saw a youtube video of it

#

woulda scared the hell outta me if that happened to me in game

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:27 PM

#

Such a nice easter egg

#

I do like that they explained everything that happens in game

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:27 PM

#

yea i wasnt really left with any questions by the end, everything wrapped up very nicely

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:28 PM

#

I do wish the story went a slightly different way though

#

||The whole game builds up the idea of the Nomai messing around with stuff beyond their control, and you get the feeling theyre to blame for the sun blowing up, but then you find out that no, its just doing that on its own, and the Nomai died because of the Ghost matter explosion||

#

Which isnt to say the way it went was bad by any means, I just wish we had a bit more foreshadowing

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:30 PM

#

||Yea that is definitely understandable. Cause in the end of things going to the sun station doesn't really matter that much since what you find out there is kinda moot. Although I will say it was a good shock that the nomai would actually go to those lengths to find the eye, and not to mention the music that plays once you open that blast door was just... amazing. reminded me of interstellar's dock scene||

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:30 PM

#

Oh yeah the music is stellar

#

Pun fully intended

#

I love how the sun exploding actually gets built up with a theme that plays about 2 minutes before it happens

#

And how eerie the quantum stuff sounds

cedar rock Jul 18, 2019, 7:31 PM

#

i got jumpscared by a quantum rock one time and im not ashamed to admit it

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:31 PM

#

Same

#

Ive never been jumpscared by a rock before

#

It was an experience

#

At that point I didnt actually know that they did that

#

so I just turn around and boom

#

Rock in my face

#

Almost dropped my controller

#

Anyway, I really want a space exploration game with the quality of exploration and intrigue/atmosphere of Outer Wilds without the Groundhog Day Loop story point

#

That would be cool

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:53 PM

#

I want to play Outer Wilds

#

but its $25

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:54 PM

#

Believe me, its worth it

#

Its a good 20 hours of content if you dont rush it that are consistently really high quality, with great atmosphere and soundtrack

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:58 PM

#

do you think there are catgirls in area 51

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:58 PM

#

Do you truly believe the government would be able to suppress something like catgirls?

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

yes

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

Honestly I doubt there's anything interesting at all in Area 51

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

neither but the memes are funny

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

Certainly not

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

They've probably moved anything fun out of there a while ago

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

Nothing is truly leakproof

#

If there was something that was sensational, it wouldve been leaked ages ago

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

so what I'm really saying is the catgirls are in the secret base under mount rushmore

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

Most likely its just boring military tech

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 7:59 PM

#

LMAO

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

Yknow, the kinda stuff that shouldnt exist

#

Or be developed

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

ugh

#

Unrelated: I'm sad, plz advise

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

oh no i’m sorry

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

shrugs it happens

#

I'm used to it X'D

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

i don’t have good advice the only way i fill the void is ffxiv

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

I'm downloading Outer Wilds because I have poor impulse control

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

I dont have good advice other than "a doctor knows more about this than I do"

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

so I can't play ffxiv

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

rip

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:01 PM

#

Uh, well, its a really good game

#

Im just not 100% sure its a good game to play while sad

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

#

Also, I appreciate y'all not asking why

#

that's nice

#

like, really

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

#

i couldn’t tell if that was sarcasm for a second aaa

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

#

its such a hard question to answer

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

#

i feel like it’s not my place to know ^^;;

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:03 PM

#

I barely understood why Im sad when I am

#

I certainly wouldnt want others to ask

#

Unless they are giving me social queues that they want me to ask

#

But you werent doing that

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:03 PM

#

honestly I think its just that I'm coming down off my morning caffeine

#

sighs

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:07 PM

#

:c i hope you feel better

#

im talking to a draogn with wings

#

he made me cry

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:16 PM

#

Dont Dragon always have wings?

sly stump Jul 18, 2019, 8:16 PM

#

Not always

#

Depends on who you ask

#

Chinese river dragons for example

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:17 PM

#

I MEANT

#

feathers

#

sorry

#

i m tired

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:18 PM

#

~~Isnt that just a dinosaur~~

sly stump Jul 18, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

Not if it has six limbs it ain't

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:22 PM

#

bird feet

#

dragon head

#

dragon wings but feathered

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:23 PM

#

Thats a Dinosaur

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:23 PM

#

im scared : ( the games gonna make me play w other people

#

and im gonna get yelled at i feel it

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:24 PM

#

Good luck

#

May your party members be chill

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:25 PM

#

T_T

#

oh im so nervous

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 8:34 PM

#

help

#

a statue just ate my thoughts

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:39 PM

#

Ah, you got to the good part

#

Dont worry, youll understand what it does in a while

#

20 minutes, tops

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:48 PM

#

it was all okay!!

#

i should have known really, expac just came out

#

the fight wasnt too bad but one of our tanks sucked

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 8:49 PM

#

Im noticing a slight trend

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 8:50 PM

#

yeah

#

honestly

#

i wont be too hard

#

it wasnt the gunbreaker this time which was fun

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:00 PM

#

I don't approve of nonconsensual save states

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:02 PM

#

So you got the gimmick

#

Honestly I dont mind the way saves work in the game

#

Each loop is short enough that just dying to save it works fine

#

Also interesting phrasing

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 9:21 PM

#

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366647747949887500/601523786046505022/unknown.png

#

WHY IS SHE SLEEPING LIKE THAT

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:22 PM

#

Her arms are too tired for T-Pose sleep

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:26 PM

#

in such low gravity settings it seems weird that they would be named after rocks that probably wouldn't be able to form there

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:28 PM

#

What do you mean?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:28 PM

#

well, all these folks are named after rocks

#

Gabbro, Gneiss, Mica, etc

#

However, all these rocks are stuff we've found on earth

#

and pressure is a strong factor in the formula of what makes a rock a rock

#

but on a tiny planet, that pressure wouldn't be there

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:30 PM

#

Ah, right

#

Well, its a bit stylized

#

A solar system that small wouldnt work for instance

#

Just requires suspension of Disbelief

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:31 PM

#

I mean, my first reaction is "why are they all named after rocks, wouldn't they be named things in their own language?" but then I was like, "Well, obviously this is transliterated from their language into ours"

#

but also I'm just joking

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:32 PM

#

Fair enough

#

Whats the first planet you explored?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

does the moon count?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

Yeah, sure

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

then that

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

Ironically I went to the moon the last

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

then brittle hollow?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

Ooh, thats a good one

#

Probably my favourite overall planet

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:33 PM

#

its got a lot D:

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

#

I mean its a 20 hours game

#

Lots of exploration to be had

#

But its very satisfying

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

#

I'm not happy with the time span though

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

#

Hm?

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:34 PM

#

because now I have to go find where I left off or something

#

I dunno

#

I took some caffiene

#

but I'm still sleepy and tired and sad

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:36 PM

#

Ah

#

Well, there are 2 things to note here

#

First, whatever you learn once, youve learned permanently

#

The back of your ship has an info terminal

#

You can look up stuff and even mark their position

#

At least I think you can do the last one

#

So finding stuff again is trivial

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

#

wait, gabbro is still on giant's deep?

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:37 PM

#

The other is that youre not obligated to keep going to the same place

#

Yup

#

Its the first planet I went to

#

I do recommend talking to him a couple times actually

#

He gives you a way to skip ahead to the next cycle if you want after a couple tries

#

Also his dialogue is great

#

Note: Im saying this because its really easy to miss, I personally didnt unlock that feature until after I beat the game

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:39 PM

#

I thought you jumped off a cliff

#

or leave your ship without a suit >.>

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 9:40 PM

#

I mean thats doable

#

But sometimes you get into a situation

#

Where both are hard to do

#

Being able to skip ahead is useful then

serene tulip Jul 18, 2019, 9:56 PM

#

I'm confused about the timeline

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 10:02 PM

#

Youre resetting

#

Everything happens at the same time each loop

#

And the things that are unclear will be cleared up later

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 10:08 PM

#

im sorry to intrude but

#

please look at my gf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/366647747949887500/601535710301782016/unknown.png

#

she looks so cute

#

im gonna cry

hexed hollow Jul 18, 2019, 10:10 PM

#

mikamiKawaii

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 10:14 PM

#

she looks so good

#

however

#

i think,, they made her skin lighter? possibly the lighting though

chilly briar Jul 18, 2019, 10:37 PM

#

She's an angel

copper lark Jul 18, 2019, 10:42 PM

#

i had to stop playing because its getting late and every time i see her i make a noise

#

shes s o pretty

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 11:03 PM

#

That is one thing FFXIV does do very well

#

Its very pretty

#

Though I didnt like how the animations tend to drown out your character

#

Unless thats just a setting I missed

chilly briar Jul 18, 2019, 11:12 PM

#

huh

#

wdym

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 11:22 PM

#

The animations are very large and over the top

#

So when youre in-combat, you can barely see your character

#

Its possible I missed a setting to tone it down

hasty kernel Jul 18, 2019, 11:49 PM

#

I finally fixed the jumping discord issue

#

Whoo

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

#

This is currently my GF: https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/dota2_gamepedia/f/f9/Automaton_Antiquity_Ambient.webm

▶ Play video

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

#

YEAAAA THE IMMORTAL 2 TREASURE IS SO GOOD

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

#

😄

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

#

god that brood skin is amazing

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:12 AM

#

I've been exclusively playing her since I got it

#

my friends are a bit mad tho

#

because it turns out she is easily countered by like, 2 dozen heroes

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:13 AM

#

ooh oops wait thats not immortal what am i talking about

#

ive been away from dotes for too long..

#

and are the ppl that counter brood just big aoe ppl

#

one of the only times i played her i was against a clockwerk and his 3 just. killed all my sweet spiders every time and he got so much money from it

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:14 AM

#

yeah

#

I mean

#

I've yet to play a game where my spiders weren't mostly just farm for my laning opponent

#

but I can get so much farm from lane+side camp+ancient camp that it makes up for it IMO

#

Like, you go soul ring into friggin' medallion of courage and you can start farming ancients

#

yeah, i got my medallion at minute 7

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:16 AM

#

holy cow

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:17 AM

#

then you go diffusal blade and watch them try to run away when you have two dozen spiders all hitting like trucks due to the medallion

#

and her new aghs is just lovely

#

she still kinda sucks tho

#

:<

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:18 AM

#

cute spider though

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:20 AM

#

dont even get me started on the abaddon set in the cache

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

you mean arthas?

#

😛

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

lmao

#

the fact he has a face and everything

#

its wild

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:21 AM

#

My favorite Abby set is Rider of Avarice because I'm a sucker for the many-glowing-eyes aesthetic

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:22 AM

#

I thought that was Elise for a second

#

It doesnt look like Dota 2s artstyle

#

Though I guess I always disliked the fact that Dota 2s skins were so restricted by the artstyle, so I cant complain

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:25 AM

#

yeah, they gave up on that rule like, years ago

#

now its like, "your skywrath can be red, who cares about at-a-glance hero identification"

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:27 AM

#

Oh it was less colour for me and more

#

Dota 2 always had that grimy semi-realistic flair to it?

#

Which is pretty restrictive when it comes to what you can do with it

#

Im happy to see that they embraced the more cartoon-y look

#

Its one of leagues biggest advantages

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:28 AM

#

Obviously you should have played Puck

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:28 AM

#

Yes but Puck is different

#

He looks innocent to hide that he is a sadistic psychopath

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:28 AM

#

Puck is best boi

#

They aren't a sadistic psychopath they're just a lesson in moral relativism!

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:29 AM

#

as all fae should be

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:29 AM

#

Puck is my favorite

#

I wish they'd release a pretty set for them

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:30 AM

#

Is the moral relativism "if youre an ancient dragon, you can be evil while hiding it behind a playful facade"

#

Because thats basically what he is

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:30 AM

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I mean it worked out for cats

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Its, "being an immortal ancient dragon kinda changes your perspective on murder"

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Cats are less evil and more actually morally grey

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Anyway, I liked Timber a lot

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He was fun

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And Karl, obviously

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:31 AM

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and you're sitting there acting all high and mighty that puck is a psychopath

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and then you're like, "Karl and Timber lol"

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Oh Im not saying being a psychopath is a bad thing

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Plus how can you not like Karl

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:32 AM

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wex quas exort!

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:32 AM

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"I am a beacon of knowledge, blazing accross a black sea of ignorance"

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:32 AM

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eh

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he's the only hero I've only played once and given up

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:32 AM

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how can you dislike karl when:

his name is Karl
he has a voice line "behold the meatball"

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:32 AM

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He is mechanically challenging by Dota 2 standards

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In a way that isnt micro-dependant

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:33 AM

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I used to play a lot of starcraft so I liked chen/meepo

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and brood

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Yeah its the opposite for me

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I suck at micro

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Real bad

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But Im good at regular mechanics

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Granted, Dota 2 doesnt have much of that

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Most of the heroes are kinda really easy

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:33 AM

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i agree uno, if you were to take a character thats as hard as you can possibly get and translate it into league, invoker would work best. all the other insanely hard dota characters are really unit-managing dependent and us league players tend to SUCK at that

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Mmh

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I don't like League because there isn't a blink dagger

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I mean, flash is basically that

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Only on a 5 minute cooldown

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:34 AM

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lol

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and like, half the range

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:34 AM

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But yeah thats fair

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We do have Kassadin though

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1.2 second cooldown blink

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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its ok leagues remedy is to give every new champ 3 dashes

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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I mean, a lot of old champs had that too

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Thats a slight exaggeration

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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I used to play renekton a lot

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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I was going to say before I noticed

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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(im not insanely salty and in a hating relationship with the game ive spent 5k hours in hahaaa)

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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when I played league

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Yeah they kinda did

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Honestly I still mostly like league

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I have a big issue with crit

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Because output randomness is garbage and just ruins fun

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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All of dotas crits are PRNG!

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Yeah so are leagues

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It doesnt really fix anything

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:36 AM

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17%

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Its a way to make people feel like its less of a problem even though its not

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:36 AM

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it does tho D: it means you can prime crits

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:36 AM

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I dont think you can?

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:36 AM

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17% of the time it works all of the time

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I mean, its not garanteeed, but its definitely increased

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:36 AM

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IIRC Dota 2s doesnt ever hit 100%

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Yeah its the same for league but

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Its ultimately still luck

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I dont like luck

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I have bad luck

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:37 AM

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but like, if you prime a few hits with PA, then blink on someone, you're approaching 99% probability

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:37 AM

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PA gives me dagger flashbacks

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:37 AM

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PA gives everyone dagger flashbacks

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Youd have to reach 6 hits without a crit to approach 80% probability

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:37 AM

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just replace the P with a T and you have the best character 😍

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i love templar assassin

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:37 AM

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That's an odd way to spell puck

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:37 AM

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I enjoyed Storm Spirit a lot

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Though I much prefer his old model

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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can you adjust the RNG by moving vertically more than horizontally or something (fire emblem joke)

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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But yes, optimally the only RNG is input RNG

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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I like heroes that I can blink in and do an AOE stun

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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The worst part is that Riot has told us they would rework crit to not make it output RNG anymore

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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or some other disruptive CC

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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But for some reason

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Its not happened yet

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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and be all squirly and hard to kill

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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And I fear that they might be ok with output RNG now given TFT

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You would love Malphite

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Or Rammus

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:38 AM

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They're too busy fending off sexual assault lawsuits

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:39 AM

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I dont actually think the balance and gameplay teams were involved in those

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It was mostly managing and executive positions

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Because scumbags like positions of power

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Anyway, I havent given up hope that they fix crit yet

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Im about to give up hope on Akali though

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:40 AM

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don't AAA game companies should have a balance team? in the QA at least?

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Dude

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:40 AM

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yeah focus on should

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:40 AM

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A lesson to learn early

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Is that bad management makes a bad company

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if there's something wrong with management its going to rot everywhere

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:41 AM

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They have those teams

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:41 AM

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they have a public beta environment too, which is why its so odd to me how many gamebreaking bugs make it in

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Its just that those teams werent, as far as Im aware, involved in the major sexual assault problem at Riot

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Not really

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Most of the bugs werent on PBE

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Its almost certainly differences in servers and weird behaviour

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The thing with bugs is that if they were easy to predict and fix, we wouldnt have IT

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:42 AM

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I need to get ready to leave but I don't want to

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I just want to curl up in bed and play videogames

severe plover Jul 19, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Go get ready!!

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Yeah I feel that Ope

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Anyway, the RNG was a big part of why I didnt like Dota as much

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The RNG, the micro, the weird clutter from mechanics left over from WC3 days and the grimy look of it

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:43 AM

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hey

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be thankful they didn't include all of the weird mechanics left over from WC3

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:43 AM

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when i first started playing i hated being on dire just cuz. maps ugly on that side

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:43 AM

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True

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:43 AM

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You used to be able to get creep agro by treadswitching

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:43 AM

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True

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I much prefered league in just about every way

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The fact that it was more mechanically challenging in a non-micro way was a big factor there

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If you suck at micro few Dota heroes are actually all that interesting

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Also good lord the hitboxes

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Miranas arrow is like a fridge disguised as a bullet

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:44 AM

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lol

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:46 AM

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to me, mechanically stuff like skillshots are very low in terms of skill ceiling. after grinding to get into platinum and up to diamond 2 which was my highest just felt like everyone had extremely similar mechanical skill and it was much more focused on macro, wave management, recall timing stuff

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:46 AM

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Thats true but like

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Diamond 2 is top 1%

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I only got to Diamond 3 (granted that was when Diamond 1 was the highest rank)

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But yes, skillshots arent much, but theyre still more than a lot of Dota heroes have

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And league has some crazy hard champs like Katarina, Zoe and that weird jungler

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Yknow, the one everyone keeps forgetting

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:47 AM

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https://i.redd.it/thazqmlmt3b31.jpg

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:48 AM

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i must be forgetting them too

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:48 AM

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... whats the name of the game

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Hmm

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Ivern apparently

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:48 AM

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oohhh lmao

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yea hes basically a meme champ rn

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:48 AM

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peace island

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apparently

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Cool

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Ill remember it

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:49 AM

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ok peace island is definitely pandering to the audience, I love it already?

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Anyway sometimes I think about trying to get to Diamond again

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But I kinda dont have the patience for it

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:50 AM

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yea thats a lot of time to dedicate

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Doesnt help that my luck got worse lately, and not only do I have to deal with crits, but I seem to attract all of the bugs

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Including some funny ones

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 12:50 AM

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I can't play multiplayer competitive games solo

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its bad for my mental health

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:50 AM

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now that im out of highschool my ability to play runescape and league all day without feeling guilty is greatly reduced

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Yeah thats fair

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It can be taxing

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:51 AM

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i just think to myself like

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hmm maybe do something productive

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:51 AM

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Personally I revel in multiplayer competitive games on my own

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Speaking of that

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I was gonna study today

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Whoops

cedar rock Jul 19, 2019, 12:51 AM

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uh oh

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:51 AM

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I mean Ive got 3 weeks left

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Its no big deal to miss one day

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:52 AM

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I mean, if you use your gaming way to earn money, you can skip the part of worrying about school and jump direct into being an adult

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:52 AM

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I find that prospect terrifying tbh

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Its an unreliable job with no long-term option

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I love playing video games, but Id never do it for a living

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Id rather just make them

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:53 AM

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not as the main income in the long term, just start with it and then make it the secondary income

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with another job as main income for rent and stuff, and the gaming for luxury

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Anyway maybe Ill try to get diamond this season in the long run

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Lets see if I can learn jungle first though

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:55 AM

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when is the season end again?

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Well, November I suppose

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:56 AM

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and study is for before that I assume, at least they don't get in each other's way that much

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Naturally

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Ill finish up the last bits of my essay, study for 3 exams, and then try and climb at my own pace for a while

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And play Singleplayer games when I lose I suppose

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Anyway, its late

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Im gonna go sleep now

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 12:58 AM

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rest well

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 4:51 AM

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https://i.redd.it/jaze9ymx68711.jpg

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haunted cow

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 4:59 AM

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I don't care how haunted, that camel hump like structure on their back looks like would feel nice if pet so I wanna pet one

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 5:00 AM

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i hear the fur for those things is deeper than it looks

wide ember Jul 19, 2019, 5:01 AM

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so a tiny bird could hide in those huh

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 5:02 AM

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...many

kindred delta Jul 19, 2019, 5:15 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/Su1kLVU.gif

Imgur

These Mario Maker levels are something else

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oh

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oh no

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 5:15 AM

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ez

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 5:21 AM

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I just heard some gunshots go off and I'm like, "should I call the police?" and so i downloaded a scanner app to see if they knew about it.

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They did. Glad I didn't have to talk to anyone

sharp grail Jul 19, 2019, 5:22 AM

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oh god, i hope everythings okay

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 5:22 AM

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They said there were 2 victims but nothing about their condition.

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It was 3 blocks from me.

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#justamericanthings

sharp grail Jul 19, 2019, 5:24 AM

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thats genuinely terrifying

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 5:26 AM

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It's interesting to listen to the police's process

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Newish Ford suv plates ending in 306 they have like 3 or 4 call in witnesses.

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Red suv

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 5:30 AM

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maybe i should get a scanner app

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figure out what those helis are lookin for

sharp grail Jul 19, 2019, 6:26 AM

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north hamlet Jul 19, 2019, 6:33 AM

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🇫 i bought it last month

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Guess i can at least get the dlc cheap

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 6:35 AM

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waitin for the religious expansion: pray

somber ferry Jul 19, 2019, 1:27 PM

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so how do we all feel about cats 2019

vocal brook Jul 19, 2019, 1:28 PM

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Scared

tropic garden Jul 19, 2019, 1:29 PM

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lindsey ellis sure has been
something

tardy anchor Jul 19, 2019, 1:30 PM

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im gonna be honest i dont hate it as much as i should...looks like weird fun

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i see the weird little cgi cat sitting at a human sized table and its just............... weirdly charming!!!!

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theyre not just creepy, theyre tiny!!

somber ferry Jul 19, 2019, 1:31 PM

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it looks bizarre and i'm here for it

tropic garden Jul 19, 2019, 1:32 PM

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the musical, cats, also generally features people in, cat makeup, so this feels like an attempt to like

#

stay close to the musical

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and lbr SOME of them look way worse than others gkdfjghdf

somber ferry Jul 19, 2019, 1:35 PM

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why do they have human noses

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not even like

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nose paint

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like in the musical

tropic garden Jul 19, 2019, 1:36 PM

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to....uh..................emote,

ionic viper Jul 19, 2019, 2:00 PM

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lion king and cats should switch

severe plover Jul 19, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I saw cats the musical when it came around to our town but I’m unnerved by the cats heee

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Honestly I prob won’t support it in theaters but I just might illegally get it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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It’s funny bc on Instagram all my theater friends r just screaming incoherently abt it it’s fun

fading spire Jul 19, 2019, 2:20 PM

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It looks interesting to say the least

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Lets just hope it wont be a catastrophe

somber ferry Jul 19, 2019, 3:29 PM

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most of my community theater friends hate cats 2019 lol

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there's like one or two people besides myself who are actually amped about seeing it

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lol

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 3:41 PM

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Fur real?

somber ferry Jul 19, 2019, 3:44 PM

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oh my god

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 3:46 PM

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I have so many cat puns

#

Im pawsitively set

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I'm feeling really antsy right now =\

north hamlet Jul 19, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Because of the puns?

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Or is your brain being bad or something

serene tulip Jul 19, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Not 100% sure

#

just some mild anxiety I think.

north hamlet Jul 19, 2019, 5:23 PM

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If you can't think of any external trigger to work on, take comfort in the thought that your brain is being rubbish and everything is otherwise pretty ok

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Also follow the usual advice and try to do something relaxing for a few mins

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Not much else you can do other than ride it out sometimes

analog spear Jul 19, 2019, 6:42 PM

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@hasty kernel I’m pawt on your tail, and soon to catch up

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In puns, cat is

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 6:54 PM

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How unfurtunate that I have such a lead

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Fur you, that is

analog spear Jul 19, 2019, 6:54 PM

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I’ll need to claw my way back up

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 6:54 PM

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You wont be able to paws for a signle second though

copper lark Jul 19, 2019, 6:55 PM

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my sister rlly likes the cats movie trailer

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i fear her more than anyone

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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I mean how bad can it be

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 7:00 PM

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One day they'll remake phantom of the Opera with cgi and make the guy horribly disfigured in hd

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Why dont we ever remake old greek and roman plays with CGI

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Including the obvious ropes holding up the literal deus ex machina

copper lark Jul 19, 2019, 7:18 PM

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u know when a game soundtrack isso good you accidentally go afk in game bc youve stood there listening for too long

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im experiencing that

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Youre on a SGG server

#

Obviously everyone here knows that

copper lark Jul 19, 2019, 7:21 PM

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THATS VERY TRUE

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Shoutouts to Transistors soundtrack that is too beautiful

buoyant frigate Jul 19, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Transistor game time doubled because you sit there humming half the time

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Dont you mean quadrupled

buoyant frigate Jul 19, 2019, 7:22 PM

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yeah

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 7:22 PM

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You gotta listen to the whole track

#

And then another time ot make sure you didnt miss anything

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And hey, it was good, why not a third time

copper lark Jul 19, 2019, 7:23 PM

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i wish i had the ability to replay games

buoyant frigate Jul 19, 2019, 7:24 PM

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is it just not your thing?

hasty kernel Jul 19, 2019, 7:26 PM

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I guess its the fact that you lose the "first time experience"

#

At least, thats why I dont tend to replay games

copper lark Jul 19, 2019, 7:26 PM

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i guess?

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i dont have a good attention span

#

so if its stuff ive seen before i get bored rooFeels

buoyant frigate Jul 19, 2019, 7:28 PM

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that's fair

#

i actually tend to be the opposite aha, I never 100% a game but I've restarted my favorites just to experience them again multiple times

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but each to their own!

upbeat scroll Jul 19, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I've been thinking about doing a permadeath run of transistor

#

Because usually when I play I just reset after overloading and I feel like I'm missing out on a game mechanic