#off-topic-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 138

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:33 PM

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So I just

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have a Heavensward code

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That I don't know what to do with

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:33 PM

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you using steam?

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Nope, actual Squeenix

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:33 PM

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you have to input both still- oh

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Which by the way their website is terrible.

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:33 PM

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then i dunno

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yeah the mog station and the lodestone are both awful

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they need a basket feature for the extra things

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:34 PM

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It's like - how do you have a competently made game but your website makes me want to rip my hair out in frustration?

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:35 PM

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its square enix they can never have an 100% complete game

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:35 PM

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The thing is, I didn't realize I already had Heavensward [because I'm an idiot and I cannot comprehend the website that well]

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So I got the free Heavensward

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:35 PM

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oh heck

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:35 PM

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So I just have a Heavensward

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Despite owning Heavensward

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How many times can I say Heavensward before it loses meaning?

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:35 PM

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im scared that people are gonna miss heavensward bc they use the thing that skips to level 60

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:36 PM

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It's helpful for people who have already done the game me thinks

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:36 PM

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yeah ! but

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Because it's not like WoW where the story from the previous expansions are not that important and the grind is so boring now

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But for newbies it can ruin the sense of world building

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:36 PM

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my friend was considering just skipping to level 60 to get to shadowbringers quicker

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i had to yell

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I might use the skip if I ever make another character after already doing everything on my main character

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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im considering it for my alt on the eu servers

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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Because listen

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If I have to go through

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another banquet

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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fghjdkgfdbndf

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I'll shriek my little heart out

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:37 PM

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i cant deal with how bratty alphinaud is in ARR for a second time

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:38 PM

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He's so cute though

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:38 PM

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he is!! i love him

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:38 PM

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GOD I hate Square Enix because I am weak for extremely pretty boys and the main reason. The absolute main reason.

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I got into FF14

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is because boy hot

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:38 PM

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i came bc my friends were playing it i stayed for the pretty ladies

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Also I cannot tell what age these people are

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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and the attatchment to my real son

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alphi

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i know ages!!

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Like are they short because they are kids or short because they are short

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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alphinaud and his sister are 16 in ARR

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Oh holy crap

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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elezen get a growth spurt at age 20

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theyre 18 now

chilly briar Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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@coarse siren I take it you haven't used many japanese websites, it's good by their standards... shadefear

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:39 PM

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No, I have

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I have seen a lot of Japanese media

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:40 PM

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thats scary to think about codex

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:40 PM

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but in FF14 there are people who look like adults and then people who toe the line between adult and children

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and I'm like

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"I don't want to feel dirty"

chilly briar Jun 11, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I lived there for a year and dealt with many japanese websites, they're all terrible, every single one of them

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:40 PM

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OH

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I just got what you meant

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:40 PM

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alphinaud and alisaie may be kids but that doesnt stop.. the fandom...

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I've heard that Japanese websites are terrible yes

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In design

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Duskwight Elezen? Very attractive

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I am very upset about that one Duskwight Elezen in the lancer quest and I miss him dearly, we could have been married.

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:42 PM

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oh F

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:42 PM

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F

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:42 PM

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theres an elezen who is

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the only man i would have married but

coarse siren Jun 11, 2019, 9:43 PM

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I think FF14 is the first MMORPG that actually makes me want to play male

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Because they're soft and not oozing with so much masculinity I can taste it

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Well not all of them but still

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Anyway, I should excuse myself to study for my exam tomorrow. Thank you for talking to me about FF14 though

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:44 PM

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no problem ! good luck

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i could talk ffxiv all day lol

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Yknow, when it comes to that

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FFXIV is pretty tame

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Just remember, TERA exists

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Shudder

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:45 PM

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i hate tera ughghhhh

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 9:46 PM

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Im mostly indifferent, but I hate the elin

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Anyway, take GW2

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That is the MMO that doesnt have that nonsense at all

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:46 PM

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ovven i take it you like gw2 a little

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 9:47 PM

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You could say that, yes

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But in this case, its just objectively true

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The only short races are a race of molepeople and the Asura, both of whom are very clearly not children

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 9:48 PM

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yeah children races creep me out

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i dont like the ffxiv lalafell but theyve grown on me

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Which isnt to say GW2's Asura arent cute, they definitely are, but there is none of that ickyness there

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And in general there is less of that all too prevalent skimpyness in armour

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I actually dont know what its like in PSO2

serene tulip Jun 11, 2019, 9:58 PM

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I'd be OK with children races if they were antisexualized.

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 9:58 PM

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That would require race-only outfits

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Which is its own can of worms

serene tulip Jun 11, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Child race of kobolds for example.

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Unsexy kobolds.

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Official artwork for Nessa

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https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/0/0e/Sword_Shield_Nessa.png

north hamlet Jun 11, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Why ankle floats

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I'm so confused

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 10:56 PM

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Are you gonna question her?

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She can pull that look off, so why not

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 10:57 PM

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shes CUTE

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UGH

opaque quail Jun 11, 2019, 10:57 PM

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Safety!!

ionic viper Jun 11, 2019, 10:57 PM

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it's marina but pokemon

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 10:58 PM

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And more attractive

ionic viper Jun 11, 2019, 10:58 PM

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you take that back

copper lark Jun 11, 2019, 10:58 PM

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discourse in the women fandom i see

ionic viper Jun 11, 2019, 10:58 PM

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it's okay marina i still love you

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women fandom jfghkdjhgd

hasty kernel Jun 11, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Marina is still good

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But she cant compete with Nessa

sly stump Jun 11, 2019, 11:33 PM

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~~i wish nintendo would stop dressing their darkskinned girls/women so scantily~~

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~~like please it's getting more and more conspicuous~~

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~~please give nessa some pants, or like, a full swimsuit~~

tardy anchor Jun 11, 2019, 11:34 PM

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oboy is it like A Thing........urgh i havent been following it

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😔

sly stump Jun 11, 2019, 11:34 PM

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It's Marina, it's Nessa, it's the Gerudo ... that's just off the top of my head

languid finch Jun 11, 2019, 11:35 PM

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I haven't really kept track of it

sly stump Jun 11, 2019, 11:35 PM

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I don't follow nintendo super actively but I know I've seen it criticized and they sure are continuing the trend

languid finch Jun 11, 2019, 11:35 PM

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are there really not that much light skinned ones like that?

pearl garnet Jun 12, 2019, 12:10 AM

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Hi uwu

velvet fjord Jun 12, 2019, 12:10 AM

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the gerudo come to mind'

pearl garnet Jun 12, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Which conference did you like more?

velvet fjord Jun 12, 2019, 12:12 AM

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gah it's hard to pick one
microsoft was really cool because cyberpunk, bethesda was cool because doom eternal and deathloop, nintendo was really really cool because botw2

pearl garnet Jun 12, 2019, 12:13 AM

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I really liked the PC gamer and Microsoft Indies and cyberpunk

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Also Cris Tales took my breath away

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Idk why but it reminds me of Chrono Trigger

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 12:19 AM

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I should probably try the demo of that game

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I liked Squeenix because of FF7 remake and Ubisoft because of punk grandma

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But they all had like one highlight and the rest was bleh

velvet fjord Jun 12, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I was with ff7 remake until ps4 exclusive

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then I immediately stopped caring because it's 2019 and there's no reason to not release it on pc

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Besides porting not being nearly as easy as people think it is

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 12:59 AM

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To continue the brief reference to Nintendo; their darker skinned character are more likely to be scantily clad or to be like... what's it called

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Bolder? than the lighter-skinned counterparts

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You see it in Splatoon, I think a few of the pokemon characters, In that clown game, Arms?

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[Splatoon 2 to clarify]

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And the Gerudo are basically meant to be brown-skinned

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:11 AM

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[s]so we want leucistic unsexy kobold in bikini[/s]

pearl garnet Jun 12, 2019, 1:13 AM

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I wanted to see some Chrono Trigger news <\3

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:13 AM

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it's not wrong as observation goes unfortunately

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Chrono Trigger... I wonder if SE remembers it

pearl garnet Jun 12, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Me too

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The last thing I know about the game is the Steam port

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Now that I remember, ¿what happened with Chrono Break?

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Hm, Im not sure that observation is correct

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See Twintelle

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Id say Darkskinned characters are more likely to be the fit/sporty type, and the clothing corresponds to that archetype

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~~Not that Im complaining~~

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 1:28 AM

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hmmm, i think thats a very broad generalization to make, and games companies should recognize that too, i think.

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Ana and Pharah are thankfully dressed in non-stereotypical ways, not nintendo though

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Though the pattern doesnt even hold there

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https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/6/68/Hapu_anime.png

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 1:29 AM

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if its enough of a pattern that people notice it strongly, a few exceptions don't shake it off enough, in my opinion

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:29 AM

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I think ... when you're saying "dark-skinned characters are [broad generalization]", there's an issue there no matter what

like, "dark-skinned characters are more likely to be fit and sporty" ... Black people being more athletic/fit is very much a harmful stereotype

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 1:29 AM

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mhm, that too!

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:29 AM

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I think its more seen as a pattern because those characters tend to be more popular for uh

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Obvious reasons

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:30 AM

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and the fact that it's combined with this very skimpy clothing on girl characters specifically (stereotypes of girls & women of color being hypersexual) ... is a very bad look

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Like, I knew of Olivia but not Hapu

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Or Burnet for that matter

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 1:31 AM

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i think its always important to keep eyes out for patterns that reinforce stereotypes, and keep them out of your original work/do what you can to break them in fanworks? people complain bc of the real world implications

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but yeah, nintendo can do better

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:32 AM

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not to mention that "dark-skinned characters are more popular for fanservice" ... again, hypersexualization of girls and women of color

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Yeah thats fair, Im just looking over it, and Im thinking its not actually a pattern

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:32 AM

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no, it's a pattern.

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:32 AM

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Because I can find way more examples against than for it

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Theyre just characters that arent as visible

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So it might be a case of perception-created pattern

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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it would be a problem if the realistic ones are in indie games that are not very visible in the first place and the stereotypical ones are in the AAA games that gain more visibility

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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i wouldn't call twintelle "unsexualized" -- she has more skin covered, but she's still in a catsuit

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Like in Pokemon there are Nessa and Olivia that fit that pattern

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But Aloe, Iris, Hupa, Burnet, and like 3 more that dont

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Hapu

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Which is ... not a rate I would consider a pattern

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But everyone knows Nessa and Olivia

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Most people dont remember Aloe, Burnet or Hapu

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Probably because Nessa and Olivia are "waifubait", while the other 3 arent

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:41 AM

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to me it was because Hapu looked more like a tanned Latina than the others, and I do agree that Aloe and Burnet are well designed

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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I mean its unfair to say Nessa and Olivia arent well designed

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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I can't really agree with Iris' dress in-game though after I saw all the fan comments about it

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Oh, what was the problem with Iris' dress?

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:42 AM

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-- oh, lord, I just looked it up and I Do Not Like That

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like, the big pink dress, not the shirt and pants?

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she's prepubescent and she's got a V-neck down to her sternum and a thigh slit

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Oh I did not notice that

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Yikes

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:43 AM

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the shirt and pants are fine, but 😬

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:43 AM

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also I did not say Nessa and Olivia aren't well designed, I'm still looking them up

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Olivia looks okay, Nessa I need to wait to see what her character is like

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:44 AM

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I think we get a little bit from her, she appears to be no-nonsense

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Also there are way more dark-skinned characters in pokemon than I thought

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Bit surprising given that its japan

north hamlet Jun 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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They do have the gyaru subculture there

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Whatever that is

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:47 AM

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the gyaru is a good point...

north hamlet Jun 12, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Where young women get tans and bleached hair and hang out in clubs and stuff

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The idea of dark skin skimpy clothes being a strong association there isn't unfeasible

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:47 AM

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I dont think any of Pokemons dark-skinned characters have bleached hair

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Japanese people are not uncommon in Hawaii and South America too, so that might also be why they are more aware

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Most of them were from the alola region which, being based on Hawai, is just mostly dark-skin in general

north hamlet Jun 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I also think the sportswear thing is a big contributor, but that's not much of an excuse for how silly japanese character design can be about women's clothing

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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dragon, that's not what's going on, though -- the characters we're discussing are all clearly meant to be women of color, not "girls with a dark tan for style reasons"

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Oh yeah, did they keep the whole "choosing the skin tone of your player character" after Alola?

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:49 AM

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& we already went over how the sportswear thing ... is its own problem

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Japan got the bodycon movement, that might be the thing with the clothing

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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To be fair in that regard, there are quite a lot of shirtless male characters in Pokemon

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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(strange enough there is a bodycon store in montreal)

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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~~Which I know for reasons~~

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:50 AM

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still ... not the same thing

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:51 AM

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bodycon in japan was this body shape conscious way to design clothing, if my memory serves

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which allowed the body to be covered but still showed the shape

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Not the same thing in what regard?

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Many of the shirtless men in pokémon aren't "waifubait", as you described several of the characters we've been discussing

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Many of them are meant to be handsome, but they're not being sexualized in the same way the girls are.

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:53 AM

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The ones Im thinking of definitely are

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Which I also know for reasons

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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you can't just look at fanworks and decide that the characters are intentionally sexualized, because if I google the crow smith demon person I will also see those kind of images

north hamlet Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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@sly stump my b if i misinterpreted, i was thinking that since there's not many foreigners in japan and that the subculture exists it would influence how they treat characters who are of colour

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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(sol i'm not sure if you're talking to me or uno)

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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uno

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Yeah thats true, but that goes both ways

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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(👍)

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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However, you can often infer

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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but now that I am having flashbacks I might need to delete my message because I want to forget

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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ahdsjklghfk

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Case in point

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https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/4/44/Bruno_PG.png

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~~Tbh his earlier designs were more attractive~~

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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that's kind of crossed the line and not sexy you mean

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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... bruh

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that's ... "male power fantasy" musculature

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Plenty of guys do find that attractive

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And girls, but mostly guys

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:56 AM

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anyway, I do feel we're getting off the original topic

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:57 AM

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look we all have different taste in men or women I guess, and it's important to remember we might have friends that have similar taste

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Suppose we are

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Anyway, after looking through the pokemon wiki and its awfully confusing structure

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Pokemon is actually well balanced after the uh

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Sinnoh region?

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 1:57 AM

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I feel like we need to do a tally by combing through the named NPCs in each generation

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 1:58 AM

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when you compare within Nintendo's girls -- not looking at its guys, just the girls -- the darker-skinned girls are consistently scantily-clad

UNO, you mentioned Hapu and Iris, and I think it's worth mentioning that they're both lighter-skinned than Marina, Nessa, Olivia, etc

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Nessa, Olivia, and Marina's designs (and the Gerudo, and ... ) would all be fine in a vacuum, but they do represent a trend, not just in Nintendo games, but across media & worldwide, and it's something that Nintendo (one of the biggest video game producers worldwide) is absolutely aware of & has been criticized for

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I don't think we need to reinvent the wheel on this by running stats

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:58 AM

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Fair, they are

blissful charm Jun 12, 2019, 1:58 AM

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bird you're right and you should say it

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Here is the thing, from what I saw after looking through the wiki, Im not convinced thats a trend in terms of Nintendo making the characters (or more accurately, everything points against it) as much as its the trend of the public perception of characters

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:00 AM

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look, you both sound reasonable, so I'll go grab something to eat before I pass out and do a tally

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because I feel like Uno skipped a few character that do fit the pattern

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Did I?

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I mustve missed them

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:01 AM

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and I don't know if bird means the patterns as significant at 30%, 50% or 60%

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Were they regular trainers rather than professors/Gym Leaders/Elite Four?

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:02 AM

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so once we have the numbers the math will speak

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:02 AM

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Because those are the only ones I looked at

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I never actually played Pokemon, for the record

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:02 AM

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I will only tally the professors gym leaders elite four and recurrent named NPCs

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or else I won't be able to sleep tonight and I have work tomorrow

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I will also tally by groups of Latina looking, Tropics looking and African looking

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Wait what

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aren't you an adult uno

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I've also never played Pokemon

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Besides Mystery Dungeon

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Im not sure how that correlates to anything

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But yes

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Also that, yes

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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fun story, I have never played a real pokémon game either, i'm 23

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I did play Mystery dungeon

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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y'all

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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I just don't care about pokemon

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:04 AM

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Look Im a Digimon kid

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Every time I see a Nintendo product period my eyes glaze over and I stare into the ceiling

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I mean I was both

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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i wasn't allowed to as a kid b/c cartoons and video games made me hyperactive and aggressive

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Thats was what I grew up with

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And its what I stick to

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I was fan of both digimon and pokemon okay

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I grew up playing Monkey Island

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I didn't discriminate against 'mon

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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~~And Digimon is still better than Pokemon dont @ me~~

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Actually, Digimon, YGO and uh

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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I'm so tempted to @ you just to be contrary

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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i wana play monkey island!!! it looks so good

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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bad post op

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Spectrobes

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Spectrobes was my Pokemon substitute, I guess

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And eventually Persona

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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i grew up on educational pc games lolol

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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never have I ever heard of spectrobes

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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@tardy anchor Monkey Island is a great game series! The fourth one is not as good I think and the fifth one is by telltale which has a terrible end to the series, but it's a funny game series

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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@tardy anchor where in the world...

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Theyre not widely known unfortunately

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But Spectrobes was amazing

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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is...

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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ohooo!! i love point n clicks and funny stuff :3

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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I also played educational games, like a lot

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Its a game about digging up old fossils, reviving them, and then using them to beat aliens into submission

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Look out! A three-headed monkey!

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And Vegetarian cannibals

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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WHOMSTVE remembers reader rabbit and jumpstart

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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who eat tofu

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WAit

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WAIT

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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[waits]

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Damn it

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Reader Rabbit sounded

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SO FAMILIAR

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But it's not the game I thought it was

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

#

jazz jack rabbit

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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No no I played an educational game

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

JUMPSTART

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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https://www.mobygames.com/images/promo/original/1479635679-362756118.jpg

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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with a grey rabbit

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and a lion

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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These 2 dorks were the protagonists

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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YAAAAAA JUMPSTART
MHM THATS THEM

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

i used to go over to my best friend's house and play zoombinis with her

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

omg zoombinis.....

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

I played DMC3 Special Edition

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

AAAAA

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

loved those lil dudes

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

thank u

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

i got too excited

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Its a shame that Spectrobes died after the third game

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

frick

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

It was so good

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

cussed for zoombinis 😔

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

Cussing over zoombinis... with a FRICK

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

i remember zoombinis and i just go feral mode bc they're so Gosh Dang good

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Wait no holy CRAP I did play Reader Rabbit oh my god

#

I just played the like, LATER games not the early ones

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

i played uhhhh

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PAJAMA SAM

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on the library computers

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

CAR

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

The Car

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

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LOVED pajama sam

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

CAR

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PUTT-PUTT

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

CAR I KNOW THE CAR

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:08 AM

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son, the hedge

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lol I know the car too

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

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That took so long to remember

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

#

pajama sam was my home but i was familiar with putt-putt

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

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http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple6/v4/42/4b/b9/424bb90b-07e1-f878-028b-36c6a1579fe0/screen800x500.jpeg

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

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PAJAMA SAM!!!

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

#

-- that lion has intense 'evangelical children's cartoon' vibes and i don't like that

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and i can't explain why

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

#

I never played educational games

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So I gotta say, this is wack

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:09 AM

#

I loved math

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The math games

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

same

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

Because my dad was a maths teacher

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I love my dad a lot

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

math & logic puzzles ... hence Going Ham over zoombinis

#

aw that's great ari! same :D

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my dad ... tried to teach me calculus when I was 11

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it sort of worked

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(it did not work)

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

I didnt start playing video games til I was like 8

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

#

but then when I did take calc in high school i was like ... 🤔 hang on ... i remember this

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:10 AM

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My dad taught me maths but he was tougher than the teachers at my school

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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At that point I didnt need educational games anymore :S

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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So he would give me REALLY hard questions

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

#

Actually no, I did play one

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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And I'd be like "please god help me"

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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An old Disney game about a haunted house

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Which you tried to escape by doing math

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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aawww

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

#

I mean it helped me be good at maths! But it was horrifying

#

But then we moved to Canada and my maths teacher in school made me feel so bad I kept having breakdowns over maths and started hating maths

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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D:

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oh no ...

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

#

my dad used to give me a sheet of 100 math probs to do on sundays and id be like OH CMOOON

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Oh 😦

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 AM

#

:((((

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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i'm going to fistfight all bad teachers

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Its always a shame when people lose the joy of math

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

So at my high-school maths teacher: I hate you and the fact that you would go to your students and personally tell them to give up on their dreams because they were bad at maths

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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:(((((

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

He actually did that btw

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He would tell people to give up

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

What a prick

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

He was a massive prick!

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

WHAT

#

WHAT

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

You dont even need math to succed either

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

🔪‼

#

i'm going to eat him and claim his power for my own

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Unless you want to go into mathematics

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

Some kids would wanna go to uni to be like y'know engineers or w/e that needed maths

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

i'm your teacher now

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

DISGHOSTING

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

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and i support your dreams

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

I mean thank u but I'm in uni now,

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

true but like in spirit

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

Engineers, huh?

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

I appreciate it

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

birds still on ur way 2 b ur teacher

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Thank u bird

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Be my enby parental teacher figure

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

Yeah you do need a decent amount of math for that I guess

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

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HECK yeah 💪 🐦

#

oh also i was obsessed with this tree frog game on the Ranger Rick website. oh and there was a "food chain" one that i got (a) expert tier at and (b) played so much i got tendonitis at the age of like 8

OH and the uhhhhh ... god what was the name of that CYBERCHASE

#

YEAHHHHHHH

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:13 AM

#

I remember that when I Came to canada I like ended up losing a lot of marks despite my answers being correct because like

#

I didn't do maths in

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a "Neat" way???

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

the cyberchase logic/math games

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

CYBERCHASE
AAAAAAA RANGER RICK

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

I looked at some of the assignments of people at my uni studying engineering

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

Also we were allowed to use calculators and I was so confused

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

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Ah, that

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

Prior to Canada I went to a school that didn't allow you to use calculators

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

:T

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

Its a good idea but teachers explain it horribly

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

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oh my god ranger rick. i had a collection of my neighbors old 80/90s magazines of it aaaaaaaa

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

The idea is that in mathematics, the way to get to the result is more important than the actual result

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

Do any of y'all

#

Remember that like

#

French-Canadian sports anime

#

About galactic football or something

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

For example, a friend of mine made a pretty bad rounding error in a math exam

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

also god i feel u about answers being "neat". i used to lose so many points because i wouldn't show my work and it took me so long to be able to like ... extract my thought process

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Which meant the result was completely wrong

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

I would just skip steps because my dad taught me how to not like

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

But since his process was correct at every step, he only lost 1 point

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

Waste time in maths

#

so I would do things that the teachers wouldn't understand

#

so I gave up trying to do things my dad's way [which was SMARTER]

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

because it didn't feel like "oh i'll do a, then b, then c" i would just go "oh so abc there we are!"

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

Then again, until high school level maths it makes no sense

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

And I would constantly feel bad

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:15 AM

#

Even then it often makes no sense

#

When youre doing uni math tho?

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

#

They want you to do maths their way

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

#

You definitely need the whole path

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

#

In HS it feels less like math teachers understand how to teach and more like

#

They want you to stick to a rigid path to figure it out

#

And that is the roadplan they left for you

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:16 AM

#

I had 2 HS math teachers

#

The first was nice

#

She helped the students that needed help, and let me doze off in class because I was bored as hell

#

The second one came in at the last semester (the first one went abroad I believe)

#

Had us 3 times

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

Also how the Gilbert do you like

#

Spell high-school

#

High school? Highschool? High-school?

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

But decided to give new oral marks rather than just reuse the old ones

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

one of the first two, i've never seen people hyphenate it

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

And I had a bad day on 2/3

#

So he gave me an 8 instead of the regular 15 (15 is the best)

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

technically I think it's "high school", space, but I see people write it as a compound word and it's fine

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

I remember my maths teacher would constantly be a jerk to me because my graphs "weren't clean"

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

Which cost me a 2.0 average on my A-levels

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

jesus

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:17 AM

#

at my primary school we had the old boat anchor macs, all of them had the best game ever on them

#

glider

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

~~Prick~~

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

paper plane game

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

people who are just misanthropic should be banned from teaching

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

I kinda miss school

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

🔪

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

And I'm like what do you MEAN you give me limited space and I have to like

#

make DECIMALS

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

When I had to put in no effort and still get decent grades

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

I'm trying my best here!

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

once I got to calc I was better about showing my work, partly because I'd learned in previous classes, and partly because ... you need that

#

and in calc you're more at the level of "oh and then i'll do [this named procedure] to the integral, and ... let's see if that works"

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

I love my uni more in terms of classes but

#

my uni is infamous

#

for having mostly jerks for maths professors

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

Yeah, plus uni profs are more cool about how you do it

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

There's apparently a Russian maths professor who haaaaaates being asked questions

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

In one exam I couldnt remember the proper way to do it

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

Every time people ask him a question he treats them like idiots

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

So instead I basically reverse-engineered the way

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

😬

#

god the state of academia is so bad

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

Which ended up being a totally different procedure

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

And I had a maths professor who also hated explaining

chilly briar Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

I know no calc, which makes it pretty hard to deal with signals when programming embedded systems lol

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:19 AM

#

But it was correct, so he gave me full marks

#

Academia is very variable tbh

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:20 AM

#

The only nice one I had was a dude who recently became a professor and he was doing a research with someone in Africa

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:20 AM

#

I lucked out, I had a pretty good TU within 2 hours of travel

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:20 AM

#

So he would come to class late

#

Because he would be like "Africa, man."

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:20 AM

#

Then I lucked out further by getting the by far best math prof in the first 2 semesters

#

Dude was awesome, had the full lectures recorded online so if you had a bad day, you could stay at home

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

God bless professors who record online

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

And his exams were challenging but fair

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

I had an organic chemistry professor who spoke at the speed of sound but he never recorded his lectures

#

Not because he didn't want to

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

Though part of that was the fact that we could take anything with us to the exam

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

But because he was technologically inept

#

He's also like in his 30s? 40s? but he looks 25 years old

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

Which is still weird to me, even though I get how it makes sense

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

Every time he came to class I'd always have a heart attack because I think he would be a student

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:22 AM

#

So most people just printed all assignments and solutions, plus the whole script

#

And brought a small encyclopedia to the exam

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:22 AM

#

I need to go wash my face to try and stay awake a little longer

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:22 AM

#

I always wondered if thats unique to germany

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:22 AM

#

Not sure, only uni I went to is in Canada

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

Really our whole uni system is wack

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

And they don't allow dictionaries but they said if you don't understand a word NOT part of the course

#

For example, you cannot ask a TA or professor to be like

#

"I don't know what glycolysis means"

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

Besides exams where you can bring anything, including cheat sheets

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

or "what is dehydrogenase again?"

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

We also dont have a set course order

#

You can study all your courses in whatever order or arrangement yo uwant

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

God I wish that was me

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:24 AM

#

Granted its generally not advised to do Math III before Math I

#

But you could do that

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:24 AM

#

Curse the establishment

#

Rebel against academia

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:24 AM

#

Meh, not much to rebel against really

#

Hm

#

How punk would it be to rebel against punk

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:26 AM

#

It would be the punkiest punk

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:27 AM

#

Imagine a Punk Rock band doing a slow power-ballad

#

Thatd be pretty punk

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:27 AM

#

oh there's plenty to rebel against in academia

serene tulip Jun 12, 2019, 2:28 AM

#

Particularly in the US

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:28 AM

#

My bad take: Academia is great and I think academia being available is a good thing, but the barrier of entry to academia may be too much and the extreme competition in academia can be harmful to academia itself

#

Also academia really hard to explain to non-academia

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:28 AM

#

i spent most of my academic career in biology trying to convince my professors that "maybe we should listen to indigenous people about the environment" was a valid take

#

and i'm still bitter about it

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:29 AM

#

My favourite thing about biology was my professor just filling our entire class with existential dread over climate change

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:29 AM

#

Let me rephrase that

#

Not much to rebel against at the academia of my university

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

That's fair

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

"maybe, but that's not biology, i'm only interested in doing biology" like [shaking him by the throat] WESTERN ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE IS FOUNDED ON RACISM AND WE CANNOT DO PROPER ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCE UNLESS WE ADDRESS THAT

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

For example our barrier of entry is about 280€ half a year

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

sorry i've gone off on my spiel

#

but not sorry because i'm right

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

And if you cant afford that, you get a loan from the government where oyu have to pay back only half of it

#

Unless you cant afford it

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

[Taps my microphone and says, through grit teeth] Racism

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

Then you dont have to pay it back

#

Germany does do some things right

sly stump Jun 12, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

sighs wistfully

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

Sometimes some countries surprise us

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

Well tbh Germany is pretty good in a lot of matters nowadays

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

For example: Maybe forcing people who can't pay back their loan to pay back their loan is bad for us economically

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

Even our "conservatives" are not that conservative

#

But there are still issues

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:36 AM

#

academia is only good science if it is willing to look at data

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:36 AM

#

Anyway, to sort of get back to the original point, Im really looking forward to more Nessa fanart

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:36 AM

#

I just had my salad marinated, working on rice and meat now

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:37 AM

#

oh yumm

#

what kind?

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:39 AM

#

there's thai rice and there's chinese black dragon river rice mix that I made yesterday that I will add some smoked cheese to

#

and as for meat I'll see if the beef is still fresh if not I'll recycle yesterday's shepherd pie meat by adding some zucchini

#

salad will be a daikon and artichoke and red pepper and some hot pepper salad

tardy anchor Jun 12, 2019, 2:41 AM

#

ohhh yum!!! that sounds delicious

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:41 AM

#

Mmh, Shepherd's pie

#

Im a bit surprised how popular inferior cucumber is though

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:45 AM

#

I have a food intolerance for most cucumber that will make me bloat and run for the bathroom so I have no choice

#

everything cucumber I must replace with zucchini or avocado

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:46 AM

#

Oh

#

That sucks

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:46 AM

#

also, you can't really BBQ cucumber but you can BBQ zucchini, so there's also that

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:47 AM

#

Why BBQ something that isnt meat

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:47 AM

#

still can't replace the crunchy goodness of a cucumber salad but it's also good

#

it's just nice? especially if it's the korean style BBQ

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:48 AM

#

Cucumber Egg and Raddish Salad

#

Its so good

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:48 AM

#

with the north american BBQ with the grill that I have in the yard it's rather difficult to grill vegetables but flat surface plus korean sauce... yum

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:48 AM

#

Easily my favourite salad

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:48 AM

#

don't forget cucumber sandwich

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:48 AM

#

Also wait

#

No pickles either?

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:49 AM

#

oh my gosh that's why I also suffer that after eating pickles

#

thanks, I totally forget when I eat stuff with pickles and that explains a lot

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:49 AM

#

Truly, the world is not fair

#

That some people are denied the heavenly taste of pickles

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:49 AM

#

you can pickle anything 🤔

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:50 AM

#

True

#

Pickled Ginger is good

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:50 AM

#

I can only not eat pickles if it's cucumber, right now I'm doing a super fast version of pickled daikon, that's what is marinating right now

#

I should also marinate the beef soon, after I'm done with cutting these zucchini

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:51 AM

#

oh sweet pickled daikon good

#

pickled ginger really is where it's at tho

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:51 AM

#

I poured so much salt and sugar in it

#

I had this salt pickled sakura blossom in a dessert once, that was also surprisingly nice

#

it was placed atop a coconut cream, which is atop a yuzu base

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:52 AM

#

Hm

#

Yknow what

#

Maybe Ill have Cucumber and Egg Salad tomorrow

#

Oh hey, its 5 am again

#

I should sleep

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:55 AM

#

yuzuuuu

#

i had yuzu-cha for the first time about a month ago and it was delightful

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:55 AM

#

the korean version or the japanese version?

#

korean yuzu cha is supposed to be yuzu slices marinated in honey (most cheaper ones use sugar and syrup instead though) and japanese yuzu cha is dried yuzu peel (the zest part)

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:56 AM

#

japanese

#

at least i assume it was japanese since i live in japan dfkjgfdg

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:57 AM

#

you can still buy the korean version in japan

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:57 AM

#

yeah i had it at a like

#

onsen restaurant though

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:57 AM

#

so if it's from dried it's the japanese one, I know where to get it where I live but I was not sure

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:58 AM

#

i didn't buy it at the store so idk if it was marinated or dried

#

it was quite sweet though so maybe it was the korean kind??

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:58 AM

#

the japanese one can also have honey added after it is brewed from the dried one so...

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:58 AM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

it was tasty, whatever it was

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 2:58 AM

#

we'll never know until you go back there and report to us

#

onsen though, did they have the sweet potato buns?

tropic garden Jun 12, 2019, 2:59 AM

#

they did not 😔

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one of the other onsen i went to had brown sugar buns tho

vocal brook Jun 12, 2019, 3:22 AM

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There is currently a sale for the borderlands handsome edition (which contains borderlands 2, the borderlands pre-sequel, and every single borderlands 2 dlc) for 97%
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322577798688669709/588205355792596992/unknown.png

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 3:42 AM

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this is amazing but I am so trigger happy in this game that I have trouble progressing due to no bullet all the time

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I'll try buying it after finish cooking and tallying pokemon recurring NPCs

hexed hollow Jun 12, 2019, 3:44 AM

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that's why you go gunzerker and go down the gunzerking forever build

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 3:48 AM

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I'll note that and try that in a new game, my old character is kind of stuck

north hamlet Jun 12, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Other option is going for the punch everything build

hexed hollow Jun 12, 2019, 4:28 AM

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that too

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 8:15 AM

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ok, regarding the pokemon NPC tally, I've checked every gym leader, elite four, champion, professors, rivals, battle institute (maison, chateau, arcade, tree, etc.)

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the result is that 4 out of the 9 female PoC of at least Latina or Mediterranean level of dark skin recurrent named NPCs are dressed in a way that is not politically correct

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so both uno and bird had a good point, in the sense that it is true that the majority (by one point) are dressed in a way that is not stereotypical looks like a woman can wear in real life in her way to an office work, but there is still a pattern of them showing skin in a way that might be stereotypical (near 50%)

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I was not sure about Olympia though because she seemed like Asian (not Eastern Asian but like Sri Lanka or something), so the total number could be 4 out of 10

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the list used: Phoebe, Lenora, Iris, Olivia, Fiona, Burnet, Dahlia, Hapu, Nessa (+Olympia)

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now that I've kept my word I can go to sleep for like 4 hours

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Also my opinion is that this ratio is better than expected but still not healthy yet so the Pokémon company better continue the push for even better representation

north hamlet Jun 12, 2019, 8:58 AM

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thank you kindly for taking the time to find data

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that's very little sleep though i am mildly concerned

coarse siren Jun 12, 2019, 2:11 PM

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That very little sleep is a mood

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Which is a bad thing to say but what a mood

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 2:46 PM

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Hold on, where do you get 4?

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I did miss Phoebe, but thats Her, Olivia and Nessa

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Or do we count Iris because of her second outfit

wide ember Jun 12, 2019, 3:43 PM

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I did count iris because of her champion outfit, even though her gym leader outfit is nice

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Because champion outfit is the most recent one

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I guess thats kinda fair, though I wouldnt put it on the level of Olivia or Nessa either

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Maybe count both designs as one

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Well, seperately

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So 4/11 I guess?

copper lark Jun 12, 2019, 6:02 PM

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personally i don’t think,, the way they dress is sexualising them

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it kinda goes against the whole ‘let women wear what they want’

ionic viper Jun 12, 2019, 6:03 PM

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syd, that argument only applies to, uh

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real women

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who can make their own choices

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not fictional ones.

copper lark Jun 12, 2019, 6:04 PM

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,,hm yeah i guess

copper lark Jun 12, 2019, 6:19 PM

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in other news,, i’m still crying over zelda

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 7:06 PM

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My brothers turtle died 😦

copper lark Jun 12, 2019, 7:12 PM

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:( oh no

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 7:16 PM

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She hadnt been eating for a while, so we got her to the vet, but he didnt notice anything

hasty kernel Jun 12, 2019, 8:49 PM

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On a much less depressing note, I checked out Christales

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The gameplay is more interesting than I thought

vocal brook Jun 13, 2019, 1:59 AM

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This is my first time playing a Borderlands game (it's BL2) and "Zero as: a number" absolutely floored me

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I can tell I'm going to have a good time with this game

olive junco Jun 13, 2019, 2:00 AM

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Moon's haunted.

thin orchid Jun 13, 2019, 2:55 AM

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Borderlands two is great

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I have over 400 hours on it

north hamlet Jun 13, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Same, it's a great series

serene tulip Jun 13, 2019, 3:59 AM

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I think I only have 100 hours in it.

nova vector Jun 13, 2019, 4:25 AM

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FWIW Ruiner is on sale at GOG for only $8 and it's an awesome indie game that, imo, plays a fair bit like Hades and likely influenced it.

coarse siren Jun 13, 2019, 5:53 AM

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Do you mean the OST?

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The game isn't on sale

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OH GOG

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I missed that part

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I'm stupid

arctic basalt Jun 13, 2019, 10:59 AM

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oh we shoutin out borderlands in here 🙌

velvet fjord Jun 13, 2019, 1:07 PM

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gaige gang

north hamlet Jun 13, 2019, 1:11 PM

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I identify deeply with gaige

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Shame she doesn't scale quite as well as the others in UVHM

velvet fjord Jun 13, 2019, 1:23 PM

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not unless you play anarchy

north hamlet Jun 13, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I did but farming stacks is not very fun

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I might do better if i update the weapons on that save though

thin orchid Jun 13, 2019, 2:17 PM

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The fibber on gaige, oh boy

ionic viper Jun 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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i have a sudden craving for brownies

velvet fjord Jun 13, 2019, 2:25 PM

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conference call + the bee on gaige

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 4:00 PM

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im reading lore olympus ,,, why didnt anyone tell me to do this sooner

ionic viper Jun 13, 2019, 4:03 PM

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DROPKICKS INTO CHAT

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YES HELLO LORE OLYMPUS

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i definitely don't have it as my phone's lock screen or anything

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 4:11 PM

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IM ENJOYING IT ALOT

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BUT ALSO

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HECK YOU APOLLO.

serene tulip Jun 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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Lore olympus?

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 5:07 PM

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i m all caught u p now

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i dont wanna wait until sunday

dire root Jun 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Enter the Gungeon free to unlock on Epic Games Store.
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/enter-the-gungeon/home?lang=en-US

Epic Games Store

Enter the Gungeon - Bullet, Guns, & Puns

Enter the Gungeon is a bullet hell dungeon crawler following a band of misfits seeking to shoot, loot, dodge roll and table-flip their way to personal absolution by reaching the legendary Gungeon’s ultimate treasure: the gun that can kill the past. Select a hero (or team up...

serene tulip Jun 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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anyone else ever feel hungry but don't want to eat?

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seems weird

ionic viper Jun 13, 2019, 5:34 PM

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eat something small

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 6:19 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/163639675658043392/588761037923418196/443657dc44e4f7af72963f864be26a38_original.jpg?width=534&height=702

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Ayame Kojima's art for Bloodstained

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wooooooow

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It's beautiful.

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 8:10 PM

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just came out as lesbian to all my irls on snapchat i’m sure that was 100% the best way to do that

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[heavy sweating]

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I guess that was a

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Snap decision

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 8:19 PM

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PFF

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Yknow what the downside of only being attracted to one gender is?

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You dont get to say "oh bi the way"

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 8:21 PM

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true

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it’s ok, i’m not really a pun person

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Thats punfortunate

tardy anchor Jun 13, 2019, 8:32 PM

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ahhhh syd i hope it went well!!! 🙏 lesbiansparkleheart

hexed hollow Jun 13, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Hope it went well Syd ^_^

sly stump Jun 13, 2019, 8:50 PM

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@copper lark lesbian high five!

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gilmanpride

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 8:52 PM

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ITS GONE PRETTY OK SO FAR? ty for the support rooCry

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I also hope it went well

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Good on you, Syd.

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Most I can relate to is that I'm not really into anyone anymore. I used to feel attracted to either but some experiences changed how I feel.

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I'll say this, it's about the personality. Don't want to be with an axe murderer, yanno?

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 9:35 PM

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Why is an axe murderer your only option

north hamlet Jun 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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@serene tulip i believe they mean this https://m.webtoons.com/en/romance/lore-olympus/list?title_no=1320&page=1&webtoon-platform-redirect=true

www.webtoons.com

Lore Olympus

Witness what the gods do…after dark. The friendships and the lies, the gossip and the wild parties, and of course, forbidden love. Because it turns out, the gods aren’t so different from us after all, especially when it comes to their problems. Stylish and immersive, this...

north crest Jun 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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i feel like that's a fanfic

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just cuz of the thumbnail

ionic viper Jun 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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no, it's a comic

north crest Jun 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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oh ok

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thank god

north hamlet Jun 13, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Based on the synopsis it's like a fanfic for greek mythology

north crest Jun 13, 2019, 9:42 PM

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yea that's what i thought as well

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at first

ionic viper Jun 13, 2019, 9:42 PM

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it's...... it's a retelling of hades and persephone............

north hamlet Jun 13, 2019, 9:43 PM

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That's a story with a lot of room for interpretation

ionic viper Jun 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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sure is!

north hamlet Jun 13, 2019, 9:44 PM

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If you all think it's good i might check it out sometime

ionic viper Jun 13, 2019, 9:48 PM

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it's a good comic, but just be aware that it deals with sexual assault, just in case that's something you prefer to avoid or have a heads-up about

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 9:48 PM

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And a lot of interpretation of the room

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 9:51 PM

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it’s very good and i’m gonna die waiting for more

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Why that, UNO?

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Well, it's an example.

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I've been in an abusive relationship, not to mention I've been stalked by people with that kind of personality. Trust me when I say that I fear more for my life than I do finding love.

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My ex did some...pretty horrible things to me.

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That's all I'll imply.

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But people are far more deceiving than I'd be more willing to admit. It's also always the quiet ones who do some of the wildest things.

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You just pick up on things and read the mood.

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Oh

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I was just making a bad joke

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Ah, I see now.

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Though you get my point.

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Right

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Man I am bad at reading the mood

north crest Jun 13, 2019, 9:59 PM

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you're not alone dw

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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man that sucks i’m sorry seafra

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Nah, trust me.

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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f in chat for ovven, died of bad mood reading

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Better people understand what kind of world's out there than nothing.

hasty kernel Jun 13, 2019, 10:00 PM

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If I had an alternate account I wouldve posted "mood" right about now

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 10:01 PM

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Hah.

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...though I'll say that I'll find someone some day.

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I don't intend on being single forever, though I'm more content about keeping my sanity in check for now, hah.

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If there's one thing, I rebound off of the bad quickly. Sure, the scars'll be there for the rest of my life up in my cranium...but sometimes it's best to just pick yourself up and move on.

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It's better to let the past flow under the bridge than to go and catch it.

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I'd cheekily wax lyrical about it, but I'm sure the point's made. Better to wait and see things than to rush after it like a lost dream.

copper lark Jun 13, 2019, 10:13 PM

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are you a writer

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bc. you have such a way w words my 1 brain cell can’t handle it

kindred delta Jun 13, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I am one, yeah.

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Though I'm nothing like the greats or others beyond me.

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I might have a way with words, but I've got a sore mouth and I speak like a sailor sometimes.

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Only thing I'm good at is lorebuilding / lore bible making.

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I can't do dialogue worth a rat's arse.

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Even then, I'm not perfect. I can improve, yes, but I manage it over time. Wordplay alone takes time to master, especially when you've been mostly around people who spit pejoratives faster than a one legged man in a footrace.

north hamlet Jun 14, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Mmm lorebuilding

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Lorebuilding is fun.

When I'm not doing pre-existing IPs.

north hamlet Jun 14, 2019, 12:19 AM

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I agree, i find dialogue a tricky thing too

hasty kernel Jun 14, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Just mash 2 somewhat compatible IPs together and see if it works

north hamlet Jun 14, 2019, 12:19 AM

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My favourite thing about words would be connotations though

hasty kernel Jun 14, 2019, 12:20 AM

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~~For the record, Soul Eater x Digimon is actually amazing and I wish I ended up doing the comic I had planned~~

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Oh goodness, the last time I did a fanfiction lore-expansion was with RWBY.

It did not end well. [yikes.gif]

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Before that, Persona.

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And even before that my own take on Mega Man.

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Never wrote a single thing other than nearly 300 pages of notes alone for the Mega Man one.

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The Mega Man one is one that, unfortunately, I've lost the notes to.

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One of those unrecoverable hard-drive crashes yanno?

north hamlet Jun 14, 2019, 12:23 AM

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🇫

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I should probably set up an online backup....

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 12:23 AM

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I've been doing that.

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But honestly, my lore for the current thing I'd like to do is simply limited to it.

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Now if we talk about the scope beyond it?

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is scared to look at the nearly gargantuan-sized document.

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one part of a bigger mythos

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one piece to a much larger puzzle that even I'm scared to unbottle and let loose.

sly stump Jun 14, 2019, 12:26 AM

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fanfic expansion is my lifeblood, honestly

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me and @autumn pasture have the outline for what could be a, like, 300k eight scribes prequel for Pyre

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 12:26 AM

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The Persona one was interesting because I also had to work with Raidou Kuzunoha and Shin Megami Tensei ...if as part of it.

sly stump Jun 14, 2019, 12:27 AM

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before that (and what i've been revisiting in the past few days) it was Fallout 4, and before that it was Dragon Age ...

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ooh, fun!

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Also allowed me to work with not only the main games, but also the side material.

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Which meant I could use the Persona 1 manga as a basis for the story and include Persona 1's US version as a nod or direct use in the mythos I wrote.

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It was written before Persona 5 had officially released, but I updated it once I had finished playing the game.

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Had a lot of alterations, but stuff that I thought about with the mindset of being a writer in the company that they would make.

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But all in all, it was difficult to write in how Persona 3 Portable's FeMC would've been in-universe.

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So I wrote her in a manner inspired by a Persona fanfiction that I enjoyed.

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Memento Umbrae was its name.

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Though I don't like doing fanfiction anymore.

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It's not because I want to, but more like I tend to take ideas and convert 'em into original stories.

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Rather than tell them in a series I loved.

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It's an odd feeling I have.

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That desire to do something, but ultimately find it best to do an original story.

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What really got me into lorebuilding was a combination of Final Fantasy XII, Dark Souls and my love of Zelda.

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But I think it started with FFXIV in full bloom.

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XIV just has a lot of lore if you dig around in the game.

autumn pasture Jun 14, 2019, 12:40 AM

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yeah, i have a similar instinct for turning fanfic into original ideas

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i wouldn't call our scribes stuff an outline tbh

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we've got a few key points but a lot of it is backstory and the gay stuff(tm)

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 12:40 AM

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I approach a story not unlike Yoko Taro.

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I write the beginning and end first.

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Worry about the middle as it goes

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give myself a start and ending

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I have an idea of how I want a story to go and, visually, it's there.

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Sometimes, I get frustrated at writing an outline.

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In that frustration, I do what every sane man does.

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Take a step back.

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Let myself focus on something else.

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But creativity never stops, I admit.

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It's like fighting a hellbeast from the darkest depths of Tartarus. Sometimes it just doesn't feel like dying for a moment. Call it a curse of an overactive imagination.

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I think that's why I find myself in allure of video games.

chilly briar Jun 14, 2019, 1:19 AM

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sounds like a sandwich

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 1:20 AM

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It does, dunnit?

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But honestly, overactive imagination is a nightmare sometimes.

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Because of it, I can't have "normal dreams."

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I have lucid dreams every night hah.

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Sometimes of me exploring landscapes like beneath the sea, across its floor.

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Another was me exploring Edo-period Japan in the fall.

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for some reason, I'd find myself in familiar, but also alien places.

upbeat scroll Jun 14, 2019, 2:02 AM

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No national pokedex in the new pokemon? I blame brexit

wide ember Jun 14, 2019, 2:37 AM

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Pokémon brexit and Pokémon union

kindred delta Jun 14, 2019, 3:03 AM

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I think there could be a reason why they did it.

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Likely one that we'll be in the dark about for a time.

wide ember Jun 14, 2019, 4:44 AM

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I hope the reason will give us a pleasant surprise

north hamlet Jun 14, 2019, 6:57 AM

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https://imgur.com/gallery/totw9zr

Imgur

What happens when you combine a slinky with an electric motor?

▶ Play video

paper walrus Jun 14, 2019, 7:08 AM

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question! idk how to word this but how do you grab a link to a message on discord that jumps you to the message when u click on it? is there like an extension for it?

copper lark Jun 14, 2019, 7:11 AM

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turn on developer mode in your settings !

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i cant remember exactly where it is

paper walrus Jun 14, 2019, 7:16 AM

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oh i found it! thanksss ❤

wide ember Jun 14, 2019, 5:57 PM

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(I bought the Borderland Handsome Edition, thanks for the notice that it was on sale)

serene tulip Jun 14, 2019, 8:13 PM

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https://i.redd.it/4b7lv38nhd431.jpg

tardy anchor Jun 14, 2019, 8:13 PM

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hjgjfhjfhjfjh

autumn pasture Jun 14, 2019, 9:11 PM

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me in calculus

desert swallow Jun 14, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Omg

copper lark Jun 14, 2019, 11:03 PM

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honestly

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bin is me

serene tulip Jun 14, 2019, 11:27 PM

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we are all bin on this glorious day

hasty kernel Jun 14, 2019, 11:38 PM

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~~Thats rude, calling everyone full of trash~~

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:00 AM

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not me, bin there, done that

coarse citrus Jun 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Man, sometimes I do this really awful thing to myself and actually look at YouTube comments. I was looking at a few channels that did reviews for some games I like, and their comment sections were just so harsh. I can't imagine getting criticism from gamers, nor can I imagine being faithful to my own creativity with such harsh words tossed about. In my job, I'm surrounded by people who give critique and provide me a culture to improve, and sure, clients can be rough, but it's so different than reception from a wide general audience. I think it'd be really hard to put yourself out there, and get such a wide and varied reaction to your work.

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:03 AM

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It helps if you take some time to consider that the person typing the hate comment has nothing better to do than flame people over the internet while reading them😜

coarse citrus Jun 15, 2019, 12:06 AM

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I guess. But I don't want to invalidate the opinion of someone simply because their message is spiteful or entitled. I see things like 'this game could have been great IF' and 'this studio spends too much time on THIS' and it's just a mess. At a certain point, I guess, the creative has to just pull back... and focus on what they want in their game? I guess that's what I do in my job as well. Must be a balancing act, to fit the needs of your coworkers, your consumers, and your own desires. Still, I think I lack a skill of tuning out criticism. It sounds exhausting.

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:12 AM

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I wouldn't necessarily classify those as spiteful but I see what you mean

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Most of that kind of feedback comes from when a game tries to be too much at once

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Or when the direction isnt what people expected

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:17 AM

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or the trailers promised

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battleborn

coarse citrus Jun 15, 2019, 12:17 AM

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I'd say they're spiteful when the language is such, regardless of intent

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:18 AM

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was going off of this game could have been great IF

coarse citrus Jun 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Battleborn was so sad.

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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rip

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never even got the chance to try it

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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what happened w it?

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:19 AM

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wish I did

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it died very fast after launch

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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i know it came out at the same time ovw did so it was massively overshadowed by it

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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then it went ftp

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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battleborn tried to compete with overwatch instead of being its own thing

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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yeah i remember that but how much different than the trailers was it?

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:20 AM

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yea it was basically a smite style moba

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but it marked itself as a fast ttk ow type shooter

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:22 AM

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plus randy pitchford being randy pitchford in an attempt to spark popularity didn't help

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:22 AM

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who?

coarse citrus Jun 15, 2019, 12:22 AM

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I could talk for hours about why battle born failed.

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Shame really, it had fun characters and gameplay

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:23 AM

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^

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I was moderately into smite at one point and the game seemed to have fixed many of my issurs

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plus single player

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:23 AM

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the ppl who made smite also made paladins, right

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which was also an Overwatch Attempt

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:24 AM

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yea

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:24 AM

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i enjoyed my time with paladins, but it definitely didnt feel as polished

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:24 AM

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I dislike paladins for its inconsistency

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:24 AM

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and then i discovered that until level 5, the game puts you against bots, but it doesnt tell you that

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and then i realized i suck and stopped playing. lol

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i did amass a good amount of skins from giveaways tho

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:26 AM

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paladins was clearly a deliberate attempt to be the poor man's overwatch
I say this as someone who played both

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:26 AM

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ye i also played both

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overwatch is the one game i preordered other than pyre

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

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I didn't hate paladins, it had some fun characters (maeve and the blind lady) but overwatch is just so much more polished

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

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It used to be very different

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But it was overwatch-i-fied

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Then again I actually enjoyed it more than overwatch

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

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i stopped playing before maeve

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

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The character design felt better

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

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or maybe just around, idk

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Gameplay-wise

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

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another not-quite-overwatch I really liked was dirty bomb
shame that game got abandoned, I really enjoyed its movement

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

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it has some cool designs yeah

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i like the lady made of stone and evie

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

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And now I have to bring up the best game that died an untimely death in that sort of genre

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

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I cannot bring myself to give a proper opinion on Overwatch now. I liked it at first, but something felt wrong about the game once it had passed a year in age.

Something about the game really made me felt let down?

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

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Gigantic

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God I miss Gigantic

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:28 AM

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But it's the pre-2018 Overwatch Lore I was most interested in. Back when it was still an MMO in concept.

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:29 AM

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like the whole point system is dumb. both teams have a fight on even terms, and the winner caps the point and receives one score point. then a payload spawns, and the team who won the first point can push the payload into the enemy spawn, where they have an extreme respawn disadvantage, for one more point. the stupid part is that if the defending team (who has a massive respawn advantage due to the final point being right in front of their spawn while the attackers need to run from the literal farthest corner of the map) defends the payload from reaching their spawn, THEY GET A SCORE POINT. this means that if two teams are evenly matched, literally the only round that matters is the fourth and final, because they will each get one point for all prior rounds

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paladins^

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:29 AM

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i stopped playing overwatch when i realized it was literally making me miserable bc i stopped enjoying it and only grinded for skins, because i was only invested in the characters and not the gameplay

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I stopped playing after Doomfist came.

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I know what you mean Seafra

I don't play it anymore except for events, but the story has made no progress in 3 years except for removing story elements

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:29 AM

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Like, I could ramble about Gigantic for days

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The designs and aesthetic were great, the gameplay the best in its (sort of) genre

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I also don't trust Blizz anymore.

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:29 AM

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i still feel this sort of dread and anxiety when i think about reinstalling battlenet... idk why

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Blizzard gives me the hibbity jibbities now.

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And not in a good way.

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:30 AM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gogigantic/images/9/98/HeroArt_Aisling.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160703001431

analog spear Jun 15, 2019, 12:30 AM

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activison pls leave

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Look at her

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She is great

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:30 AM

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oh wait, now i remember

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Honestly speaking, I do like the art direction for OW.

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Mostly because I know the guy who did the art for the initial release.

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not personally but I knew of their work.

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:31 AM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/gogigantic/images/3/38/Hero_art_Tyto_the_Swift_small.png/revision/latest?cb=20180215143805

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:31 AM

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yeah gigantic had cool character designs. what happened to it?

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:31 AM

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Thats a long story

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So

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They ran into trouble with funding

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So they got a Microsoft contract, became exclusive to the Windows 10 store, yadda yadda

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It was fine, but the playerbase was small, and funding was starting to dry up

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So then they got a contract with Perfect World

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Things went fine for a while, but it was still too small and players slowly started leaving

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Until eventually PW shut it down

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Its main failure was mismanagement

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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i see... its a shame

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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It was locked out from too many people at first, and advertising was largely a miss

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It is

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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quite a shame indeed

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Its the only game I ever cared enough to try really hard

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Honestly that's been a bit of a scary thought on my part is what I'd go with on art direction for my project when the time comes.

I don't like a whole lot of styles that've popped up over the last few years. But there's merit in me saying that Japanese art has taken my fancy.

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Got into the top 300 of players worldwide

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:32 AM

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speaking of game tragedies

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i think this game whos kickstarter ive been following isnt gonna make it and im sad :<

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:33 AM

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it's what happens

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:33 AM

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which game?

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:33 AM

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afterlight

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:33 AM

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~~if it's Barkley 2--nvm~~

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:33 AM

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it has 80 minutes left and quite a ways to go

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:34 AM

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In fact, I mainly got into the top 300 on the back of this guy

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1R14EKA9K-4/maxresdefault.jpg

velvet fjord Jun 15, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I think I might have heard of that? or maybe it was another one with a similar name

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Ramsay

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Tol brooklyn dork

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God I still can hear his voicelines

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Actually thinking about it, there was one art-style I'd like to draw inspiration from. At least in the concept alone

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Oh yeah I recall, the game you posted here

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Even if I don't plan to be the main artist since I'm not one anymore.

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:35 AM

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80 minutes left, and a couple thousand to go

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Thats not good

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:35 AM

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/bodero/afterlight-an-emotional-journey-inside-the-mind/description link again, if anyone is interested and a miracle happens

Kickstarter

Silent Road Games

Afterlight- An emotional journey inside the mind

2,5D puzzle-adventure set in Saturn's moon Titan, focused on smooth and unique gameplay and finely crafted animations

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yeah i just hope it still gets made, even if over the course of a longer time

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:37 AM

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I hope it does get finished in some capacity.

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That's always been a hope of mine is to see people never give up on projects, despite not reaching a milestone or goal.

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:38 AM

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maybe they could try a kickstarter again but with more publicity? i feel like it just didnt reach enough people

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idk how this stuff works tho

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:39 AM

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I've always been the person who feels like something shouldn't release or be put out to pasture early.

I'm much more preferring the "when it's done™" approach to things.

sharp grail Jun 15, 2019, 12:39 AM

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i usually dont hear about games again if the kickstarter didnt make it

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oh for sure

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:39 AM

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I feel like that's the lesson people ought to learn when it comes to game development.

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These things take time.

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Trying to kickstarter again is a bad idea

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:40 AM

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But it's also another perspective to keep in mind that it goes beyond time.

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It's about passion and other feelings.

north hamlet Jun 15, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Making things is often harder than it looks, and the decisions you make can have many results

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 12:40 AM

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that^

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I don't expect perfection.

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Projects take many roads.

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https://twitter.com/granbluefantasy/status/1113365573600051201 also this game's promotional and in-game art is fantastic and has been the onus of my vision for my project.

グランブルーファンタジー (@granbluefantasy)

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Though I may never reach this as the direct, it has been there for me to use as a springboard to imagine the world in some manner.

upbeat scroll Jun 15, 2019, 3:53 AM

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Just saw one of those aesthetic images about "uwu police"

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Argh

kindred delta Jun 15, 2019, 2:36 PM

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oops

copper lark Jun 15, 2019, 4:04 PM

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playing persona 5 ,,,, Boy is beautiful

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Which one

copper lark Jun 15, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Boy

ionic viper Jun 15, 2019, 4:32 PM

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nasty crimeboy

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 4:35 PM

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My Persona 5 slang must be rusty, because Im not sure which boy is just called Boy

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Though really there is no wrong answer here ~~except maybe Yusuke~~

copper lark Jun 15, 2019, 4:58 PM

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boy did nothing wrong

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he shouldn’t have been arrested and sent to another school smh

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Counterpoint: He wouldve never met Ryuji if he wasnt

copper lark Jun 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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true

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i’m not far in

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i just started playing

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no spoils pls ;w;

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Dont intend to

copper lark Jun 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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i’m in the first ,,, dungeon i think my friend called it

hasty kernel Jun 15, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Just gonna say that Ryuji is precious