#off-topic-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 122

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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You have 5-6 heroes outside of micro heroes that I would say are decently challenging

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Thats ... not mechanics

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Thats gamesense

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:00 PM

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It really isn't though.

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(also, friendly @buoyant frigate, I appreciate your efforts)

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See, one of the main reasons I don't like HotS

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is that I lose in the draft phase

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Whereas in DotA, if you lose in draft, you can win with itemization

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and economy

buoyant frigate Mar 13, 2019, 5:01 PM

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I try my best even when I really don’t need to

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Simple things like denying creeps/towers/heroes, and creep blocking, camp stacking, all of these are mechanics that HotS lacks in spades

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Uh, thats funny, because I wouldve said its the opposite

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HotS doesnt have hard counters on the level dota has

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:02 PM

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That really hasn't been my experience at all

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Also those are mechanics, but most of them are memorization moreso than really anything difficult

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And if you compare the average Dota hero to the average HotS or League hero

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They are so much easier to play it aint funny

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Run a last hitting test on DotA and tell me if its memorization

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Like, seriously.

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Even such a thing as a skillshot which doesnt have a hitbox so wide you cant miss with it is a rarity in Dota

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Well, I said memorization

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Lasthitting is the exception

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:04 PM

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But you're still purposefully ignoring that macromanagement is an important aspect of a game

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well

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purposefully ignoring might be a bit harsh

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forgive me

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 PM

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No it is a factor

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But the thing is, its a factor in all games

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It just manifests differently

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Dota 2 has the slight edge there

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 PM

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How is it a factor in HotS, at all?

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Proper EXP management and rotations

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Since lasthitting isnt a thing, you are a lot less confined to your lane during the game

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Folks do that a lot in DotA too.

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The macro for dota is So Much more complex than HotS

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There's a need for supports in lane, and babysitting,rather than just fighting/

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Eh

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Its more complex

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But not by as much as you might think

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That becomes clear once you play at a higher level of HotS, because early ranks are not very indicative

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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There's no itemization, there's significantly less choices for skill/itemization order, hell dota has even picked up talents

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HotS is dota distilled down to lane fighting, team fighting, and jungle/rosh fighting

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Sure, but skill order is usually set in stone

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Id say HotS is Dota with a lot more focus on mechanics and rotations

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Not so much in the early game

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:10 PM

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The average HotS hero is a lot harder to pick up and play than the average Dota hero

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:11 PM

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If I fight early in Dota, as centaur, I'll take my stun. but if there isn't a fight, I hold that point and when we get in lane I put it in return

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If you added on average, to that last statement I might be closer to agreeing with you

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Chen is friggin' impossible x.x

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Yeah Micro is a pain

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But few heroes really micro

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:12 PM

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All heroes have the ability to micro, though, with the inclusion of helm of the dominator and manta style

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and necronomicon

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:14 PM

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The ability to, yes

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But you dont buy those items on the vast majority of them

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:15 PM

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You'd be surprised at the number of games I've played where "Literally everyone buy necrobook" was actually a play we did that was successful

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Plus, if the dota meta were so cut and dry as you said, why does nearly every hero see play competitively?

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the last TI missed something like, 8 heroes out of 117

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:16 PM

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I mean, that ... has nothing to do with my argument?

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The fact that heroes have a decent amount of diversity doesnt mean they all buy all items

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:17 PM

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well, you're arguing that the meta is stale in a sense that itemization and skill order is pretty set in stone

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aren't you?

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(unrelated but funny https://i.imgur.com/Km7BSRG.jpg)

Imgur

Lawyer present

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:18 PM

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Skill order moreso than itemization

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But there is little you can deviate from, yes

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:20 PM

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https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/pudge/items?date=patch_7.21 I feel like the stats disagree.

Pudge - Items

View statistics, top players and guides for Pudge on Dotabuff

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better example: https://www.dotabuff.com/heroes/phantom-assassin/items

Phantom Assassin - Items

View statistics, top players and guides for Phantom Assassin on Dotabuff

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Do they though? Filter intermediate buys

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Same thing

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You have the option between 2 boots, and then desolate, fury, abyssal, BKB and Satanic

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And the rest are picked so much less

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That they are small deviations

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Small, but important deviations.

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Oh wait, I forgot MKB

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Games that end with a butterfly are more likely to win than games that end with an abyssal blade

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but butterfly is bought significantly less

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implying that the strategic purchase of unusual items is important

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Or it implies that butterfly is an item you only ever get to build when youre already winning

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See: Divine Rapier

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:24 PM

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That would be true for A-blade even more than butterfly though, because a-blade is significantly more expensive

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sange and yasha has a higher win rate than a-blade, and its easy af to complete

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:26 PM

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Could be that you only buy Butterfly when youve finished Abyssal

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:27 PM

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But not everyone goes butterfly after abyssal

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as is shown by the stats

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where are my fingers today

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Not neccessarily

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You have to have enough time to buy Butterfly after Abyssal, for instance

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Stats are not that easy to interpret without the right context

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Which always bothered me with Dota

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Why are the stat websites so lackluster?

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With league you have a lot more filters you can use, you can check what item gets built first, second, third with what percentage

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How much people win after X games with a hero

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Dotabuff requires a subscription for most of those interesting facts

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BKB is a very contextual item

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sometimes its important to go BKB after your first damage item, sometimes after your third, sometimes not even at all

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Sure, but its only mild variation

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Not unlike the talent choices in HotS

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:31 PM

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This compared to hots where you have a total of 7 macro-level choices the entire game

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many of which are much more set in stone than dota itemization

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:32 PM

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Uh

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They really arent

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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If you focus on pushing Zag, how frequently do you not take pushing talents later in the game

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:33 PM

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30+% of the time according to the stats

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Usually there is something like a 25 30 45 split

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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You can't honestly tell me that's better than dota

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with less choices, and what appears to be as much meta staleness

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:35 PM

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I mean based on stats, you have 7 choices to make, where all options are actually picked enough to be considered valid

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As opposed to (generally) six choices with a lot fewer picked options

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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there are 4 choices in talents alone

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six choices in ending items

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and a number of mid-game items that are useful that you usually don't end the game with

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Oh yeah, I forgot talents

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Fair enough on that

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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you don't buy raindrops at the end game

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but the choice to buy them early can make a lot of difference

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Still, with Dota, based on PAs stats

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You have a very close build over 70% of the time

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And deviate little

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With HotS, you have a very close build maybe 40% of the time

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And deviate a lot

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I mean, you'd have to in order to make the game interesting ;P

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Eh

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The heroes in HotS are considerably more interesting than Dotas

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And mechanically intensive on average

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Like back when I played Dota, I was bored out of my mind when I wasnt playing Invoker, Storm Spirit or uh

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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I nominally agree with you on that, if I could play them without having to jump through hoops 😛

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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That bolder guy

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Whats his face

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:40 PM

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tiny?

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(boulder/bolder :P)

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:41 PM

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No the other one

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Earth Spirit, thats the guy

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But like, even when you have a skillshot like, say, Mirana

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Its hitbox is a bloody couch

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You cant miss it unless you really try

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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yet, those guys are still there

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Yeah, they are, but only playing 3 or so heroes gets boring

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And I have my suspicion that even those 3 arent that hard

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I would check, but the stat needed for it doesnt exist for Dota

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:43 PM

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So you play all hots heroes evenly?

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no boring hots heroes?

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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All of them, no

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But back when I played it regularly

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I played like, 20?

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Also, there are something like 118 heroes on dota

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surely you didn't get a taste for the full complexity of all of them

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I know

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Im pretty sure I have

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Like for more than half of them you play 5 games with em, and youve seen all they have to offer

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:46 PM

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yeah, but 5 games with meepo is really different than 20 games as him when it comes to complexity

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Well, fair

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Meepo is also hard

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But I dont like micro

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So I just kinda ... didnt play him

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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plsu, you can make even the most boring hero in dota interesting with items

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Ehhh

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:47 PM

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manta dodging, tread switching

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helm of the dominator

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getting Hotd on pa, wraith king or wraith king isn't that unusual as a mid-game item

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:49 PM

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I mean, again, not a big fan of micro

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I like stuff like Invoker, not like Meepo

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And Dota is woefully lacking in that

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:50 PM

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in that case, I find the RNG interesting

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😄

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 5:51 PM

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I mean, RNG is often interesting

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Its just anti-competitive

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Ultimately, while in all Mobas the better team usually wins

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That percentage, from my experience, is the lowest in Dota

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 5:59 PM

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I think you'd need to prove that point by pointing to a significant number of really important matches that were lost by rng

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:00 PM

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The problem with that is that its hard to find a game where you can easily show that

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In League I know of 3

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In Dota 2, Ive not watched enough tournaments to really know

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But Im basing this on my personal experience playing the game

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Ive seen PA crit streaks, or dodge streaks, or even uphill misses decide games more than I would like

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Sounds like what decided the games was more a failure to save for buyback

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unless you got unlucky twice ;P

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:03 PM

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More that they got rosh out of it

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And even buyback wasnt enough to save the game

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 6:05 PM

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no heavens halbreds on the team?

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no blade mails?

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:06 PM

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BKB stops blade mail, no?

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Nullifier stops BKB

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Pretty sure that item, or mute as a whole, did not exist back then

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Honestly it might as well not exist not =\

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also it really bugs me that break stops passive and mute stops items, it should be the other way around ;P

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Valve and Logical Consistency do not mesh well

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But yes, I wish Dota had some more interesting heroes

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Just something with a synergistic kit

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Even HoN figured that out at some point

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 6:15 PM

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define synergistic kit

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Abilities that work great in tandem with each other, rather than just being seperately good abilities

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Invokers Tornado with EMP blast and Meteor with Deafening Blast for instance

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 6:19 PM

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try mars 😄

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Both of his actives synergize great with his ult

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I know, but Ive already play Anhur a bunch back in smite

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Also I dont like that his spears hitbox is obscenely wide

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 6:22 PM

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don't body shame his spear bro

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Just saying, whats the point of a "skillshot"

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If you cant reasonably miss it

pearl breach Mar 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Anhur's impale is definitely missable

hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Yeah I meant Mars

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Anhurs impale is a proper skillshot

pearl breach Mar 13, 2019, 6:24 PM

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oh right

quaint thicket Mar 13, 2019, 6:25 PM

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hasty kernel Mar 13, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Oh yeah, I just remembered

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Grimstroke was actually kinda neat

faint panther Mar 13, 2019, 7:29 PM

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olive junco Mar 13, 2019, 8:20 PM

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!!!!!

Heart Machine announced a thing!

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https://youtu.be/vKxk_dPskpU

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north hamlet Mar 13, 2019, 8:32 PM

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(╯✧∇✧)╯

serene tulip Mar 13, 2019, 8:35 PM

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I always wanted to make a fortress that had an exclusively underground and aboveground sections split by a huge airlock stockpile

spare ferry Mar 13, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Dwarf fortress officially released... with graphics? That's amazing!

supple terrace Mar 14, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Dinner: roasted brussel sprouts and duck rillettes on multigrain toast, washed down with sparkling apple cider.

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 12:48 AM

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yummm

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your food descriptions r always so vivid

supple terrace Mar 14, 2019, 12:49 AM

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That's vivid? O.o I could go into foodie mode if you'd like.

royal kestrel Mar 14, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Was going to the store because I forgot cheese cloth... now I am going to get cider too. I'm going to try to make my own paneer.

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 1:37 AM

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oooohhhhhhh NICE

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"I forgot cheese cloth" like, now i know youre A Chef

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youre making cheese

royal kestrel Mar 14, 2019, 1:38 AM

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We'll see!

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If it turns out to be cheese I'll be happy

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 1:43 AM

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(puts the cloth over some milk) (takes it off like a magician) ah! theres a rabbit

delicate light Mar 14, 2019, 1:49 AM

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a milk rabbit

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 1:50 AM

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dainty white rabbit that spills if u poke it

supple terrace Mar 14, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Cheese cloth is weiiiiiiird.

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It's a handy strainer when you want to drain as much as possible via SQUEEEEEEEZE

arctic harness Mar 14, 2019, 2:18 AM

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wait wait

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people.use cheese cloth for food..?

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ive only ever used it in labs to strain chemicals this is so sad alexa pla

upbeat scroll Mar 14, 2019, 2:19 AM

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food is a chemicals

supple terrace Mar 14, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Baking is science for hungry people!

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But yes, they do.

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I'm more used to using coffee filters in labs than for drinks @arctic harness

upbeat scroll Mar 14, 2019, 2:29 AM

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hey, that rings a bell

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didnt good ol jaques make a shirt that said that at some point

arctic harness Mar 14, 2019, 2:32 AM

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aaa!

supple terrace Mar 14, 2019, 4:06 AM

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@upbeat scroll And I got a shirt of it for my mother, who was a pastry chef before she had babies.

velvet fjord Mar 14, 2019, 1:55 PM

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TcMBFSGVi1c

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quaint thicket Mar 14, 2019, 1:59 PM

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We getting a follow up to HLD and Halo on PC?

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Must be Christmas

buoyant frigate Mar 14, 2019, 4:11 PM

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Oh hey happy pi day folks!

hexed quail Mar 14, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Can someone notify me when Journey is released on Epic games?
Other than Hades, that's my only reason for tolerating its awful interface design

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Im so excited for journey too! Just keep pokin on epic, itll say there

copper lark Mar 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

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the chicken soup i just had tasted like butter

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idk if its my sick taste buds or what

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but it felt like i just ate melted salt free butter

royal kestrel Mar 14, 2019, 7:14 PM

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That sounds not great

copper lark Mar 14, 2019, 7:14 PM

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it wasnt but i havent been able to eat all day so at least its something rooKb

royal kestrel Mar 14, 2019, 7:15 PM

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Must regain your strength! Stay hydrated!

copper lark Mar 14, 2019, 7:15 PM

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thank you!!

hasty kernel Mar 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Wait, pi day?

pallid shard Mar 14, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Ya know

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π

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The math stuff

ionic viper Mar 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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3.14

pallid shard Mar 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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It's a good day

ionic viper Mar 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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or 14/3 if you’re outside america or anywhere else that goes mm/dd/yy

pallid shard Mar 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Reminds me of how terrible I was at it

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bouldy

hasty kernel Mar 14, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Oh, I see

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So its a joke that only works with the wrong date format

copper lark Mar 14, 2019, 7:18 PM

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GWqlabsMmSad

vocal brook Mar 14, 2019, 7:18 PM

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mm/dd/yy is the only way to get the date 04/20/69 tho

hasty kernel Mar 14, 2019, 7:20 PM

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I mean were nearly 2000 years too late for that

cunning holly Mar 14, 2019, 7:21 PM

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Not if it's YY instead of YYYY

hasty kernel Mar 14, 2019, 7:22 PM

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Thats cheating

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Plus, with the superior format, you can still have xx.04.2069

chilly briar Mar 14, 2019, 9:40 PM

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I made the mistake of buying two boxes of pop tarts and now I'm having poptarts for dinner, that is all

hexed hollow Mar 14, 2019, 9:41 PM

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that don't sound like a mitsake to me

chilly briar Mar 14, 2019, 9:42 PM

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The real struggle is waiting for my jalapeno plants to get ready so I can make some awesome sauce and fried chicken tacos

vocal brook Mar 14, 2019, 11:21 PM

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You can have xx/04/2069 with either date format, so that's not a point in either's direction

delicate light Mar 14, 2019, 11:56 PM

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if you ever feel aloof

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But feel not

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I accidently made fish when I thought I was making chicken

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even though fish is my favorite food

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 11:57 PM

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hgvhjghjfjfj you accidentally a whole fish.......im not laughing at you im laughing with you im sure ill do that one day too

delicate light Mar 14, 2019, 11:57 PM

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It said it on the package and I thought it was weird it really looked like a fish

copper lark Mar 14, 2019, 11:57 PM

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id do something like that tbh

delicate light Mar 14, 2019, 11:58 PM

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It just did not occur to me, "huh maybe this is fish"

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 11:58 PM

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spacey squad.... yesterday i got on the wrong train to AND from work

delicate light Mar 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

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epic

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thank you spacey fam

tardy anchor Mar 14, 2019, 11:59 PM

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🙌

delicate light Mar 15, 2019, 12:00 AM

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space like....

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||spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace||

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

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space core portal 2 style

delicate light Mar 15, 2019, 12:01 AM

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The most space out possible

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:02 AM

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aaaagh god i have the worst headache and a temperature

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but.. gotta,.... video game...

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:03 AM

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dont game your head off 😔

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:03 AM

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do it for Him

delicate light Mar 15, 2019, 12:03 AM

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nuuuu

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:07 AM

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@tropic garden PLEASE go hard on marvel

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:11 AM

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what? oh not me

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i kind of hated infinity war but i don't want to have that fight here gkdfhgdfkjg

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i'm uninvested in everything marvel at this point unless it's guardians or thor

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 12:38 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/437376964114907138/555912440462835764/JPEG_20190314_173723.jpg I made bread!

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Looks great!

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:43 AM

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bread!!!!

cedar rock Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 AM

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you got that bread!

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:46 AM

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heck yeah

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bread is hard to make

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 12:48 AM

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https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2016/03/real-irish-soda-bread-recipe.html This is the recipe I used.

Real Irish Soda Bread Recipe

Once upon a time, soda bread was baked over hot coals in a covered skillet, trapping steam from the dough to produce a wonderfully crusty loaf of bread—a setup anyone can re-create in a Dutch oven. Teamed up with low-protein all-purpose flour and volatile baking soda, butte...

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:06 AM

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Really depends on the type of bread and the method used

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Some bread is easy to make

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Yeah, like this was pretty simple, just required precise measuring.

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:12 AM

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I generally don't bake much precisely because of how finnicky and precise it tends to need to be. I much prefer freeform cooking where I add a bit of this and some of that, then taste and adjust accordingly

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:12 AM

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Meanwhile the brioche I've done, a supposed easy no knead one required days of work.

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Like, I didn't have to knead, but I had to wait and still transfer it between things and make sure of other things.

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:13 AM

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That's my experience with "no knead" breads, too. What you save in kneading effort you make up for in sheer time and extra steps

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:19 AM

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But yeah, this is good bread.

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:19 AM

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I do enjoy good bread

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I have a barrel aged imperial stout, which is basically liquid bread... does that count? It is good

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:23 AM

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You can't eat it with butter.

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I need to decide though what to pack for lunch tomorrow with it.

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The bread, mini oranges, but what else?

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Don't you tell me what I can and can't do Kappa

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:26 AM

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😛

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:26 AM

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If it was a milk stout, would that satisfy you?

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:26 AM

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No.

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(I don't drink and I think booze tastes nasty.)

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Fair

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Probably artichoke pate I have, feta cheese, oranges, and I'll figure out a bit more.

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Already sounds delectable 🤤

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Tomorrow is my last day of work before I go back to school for the first time in over a decade

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I will probably have... rice for lunch

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:33 AM

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I have brussel sprouts I roasted yesterday and cheese curds, I want to use those.

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Maybe the mackerel + that and the bread.

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Mmmm, cheese curds

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I have a positive association between cheese curds and poutine

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Meanwhile I am not a fan of poutine; I prefer fried cheese curds.

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 1:35 AM

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What can I say, it's the Canadian in me

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 2:15 AM

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And packed! Cheese curds, brussel sprouts, canned mackerel fillets, little oranges, and homemade Irish soda bread.

limber horizon Mar 15, 2019, 2:51 AM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-steam-data-reddit/

pcgamer

Epic says it doesn't use Steam data without permission after Reddi...

A thread on Reddit accused the Epic launcher of illicitly mining and sharing Steam data, but Epic says it's not the case.

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hmm

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i'm not really one to take a large corporation's words at face value and these findings are deffo concerning

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 2:52 AM

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I just keep the launcher closed whenever I'm not updating the game

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It's not like SGG can just can their early access at this point anyways

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they need a distribution platform for updates

limber horizon Mar 15, 2019, 2:53 AM

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/developing-epic-games-launcher-appears-to-collect-your-steam-friends-play-history-epic-responds-see-op.105385/

ResetEra

Developing: Epic Games Launcher appears to collect your steam frie...

So this comes originaly from Reddit, I found out via lashman Metacounil post.
(This is not endorsement of those findings)

But I tried to replicate those and found out that Epic Games Launcher on start up searches for Steam install
and proceeds to get list of files in your St...

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this is the reset thread btw that it all originated in

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and right

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 2:53 AM

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"Epic is controlled by Tim Sweeney," he wrote. "We have lots of external shareholders, none of whom have access to customer data." ```
I guess 48% is technically a minority share

limber horizon Mar 15, 2019, 2:54 AM

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also i wanna point out that they say ONLY friends are read

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when very clearly the epic client is reading much more information than that

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 2:56 AM

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In exchange for Tencent's help, Tencent acquired approximately 48.4% of Epic then issued share capital, equating to 40% of total Epic — inclusive of both stock and employee stock options, for $330 million in June 2012. Tencent Holdings has the right to nominate directors to the board of Epic Games and thus counts as an associate of the Group.
Tencent is a company involved in china's firewall and is developing one of a couple social credit systems, if you didn't know

limber horizon Mar 15, 2019, 2:56 AM

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^

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Oh no, not the social credit

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This thing is actually very scary

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:00 AM

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We saw you talking about Tencent's relation to the Epic Games launcher. Your social credit score has been lowered limesS

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Man I didn't even know I had some of these files that they are looking for in Steam, including all my old Terraria worlds.

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 3:01 AM

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I purchased Hades, now my social credit score is lowered 🙂

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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I purchased Hades, and now I have no social credit notlikeblob

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People cross the street when I float by

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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My social credit score is so low, I'm legally forbidden to use public bathrooms

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:02 AM

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Well the Chinese government is officially irreligious, so would having a game that expands on Greek mythology be shown as for or against organized religion. Would they want or not want that.

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 3:03 AM

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thinkRoll

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Then again with Tencent having such a large stake in Epic Games, maybe that would be good for them?

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:05 AM

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If Tencent is affiliated with the government, you definitely get bonus points for buying on Epic Games

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Life is Pay2Win now

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Or was it always?

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:06 AM

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It was always.

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 3:07 AM

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where's the patch to remove the survival rooms in my life

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jermaPluto

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Isn't that just dying?

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I'm a ghost, though, so I've already bypassed this problem

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:08 AM

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I am a lich.

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Liches are overrated

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:08 AM

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My phylactery is the Earth.

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Which was a much better idea before the industrial revolution.

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Damn, that was a good joke my friend

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 3:09 AM

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FeelsBadManHD

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:09 AM

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It was good, but I'm sad now

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:15 AM

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I see the argument that the data gathering could all be related to cheat prevention, but I am not sure in what capacity. Like I have had Cheat Engine open before when Epic was running, does it only really care if you are playing an online game like fortnite?

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Oh, it's definitely gathering info on the competition no matter what they claim to be the intended purpose

lusty ridge Mar 15, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Mmm, it seems overall the stuff that it looks for is run of the mill, as it is apparently a web app in a wrapper, but the Steam stuff in particular is what really irks me. Then again basically every app or platform does something similar, whether it is looking at your contacts to recommend friends or connecting with Facebook.

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 3:19 AM

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It's definitely naive to assume your online activities and associated computer data are 100% private

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:23 AM

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We've all agreed to some EULAs that would have seemed incredibly fishy if we read them thoroughly

grand dawn Mar 15, 2019, 3:28 AM

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doesnt matter in civilized countries you cant sign your human rights away

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it never holds up in court

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the problem is taking them to court

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 3:29 AM

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The problem is you have to go to court, and that isn't cheap

grand dawn Mar 15, 2019, 3:29 AM

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ayy

rain mortar Mar 15, 2019, 3:29 AM

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They can make it drag out for years

grand dawn Mar 15, 2019, 3:29 AM

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the legal system works

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Yup, since they have infinite money and you don't

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Welp, infinite for a mere mortal

grand dawn Mar 15, 2019, 3:31 AM

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so we have to trust the companies we love to do the right thing

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or dont give them our business

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hence why i want to know what supergiant plans to do

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:35 AM

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Well, Supergiant is a pretty small company, and those tend to keep a certain sense of morality, in contrary of many depersonalized multinationals. And so far they've been doing a very good job keeping my trust

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Big ups to these sweet people

valid turret Mar 15, 2019, 3:36 AM

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What scandal did did epic into now?

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get into

grand dawn Mar 15, 2019, 3:38 AM

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stealing your steam info

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to sum up the situation

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and honestly? these guys are some of the nicest game devs i know, ive never been ignored when i have a question about their game and they have a real passion for what they do

valid turret Mar 15, 2019, 3:39 AM

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might be tied down by NDAs

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I'm just hoping Hades makes it to anywhere that's not the Epic Store so I don't have to risk their shoddy security leaking my CC number.

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:41 AM

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Yeah, that's only scheduled to happen in a pretty long time

valid turret Mar 15, 2019, 3:41 AM

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I don't mind waiting, just hoping that Supergiant doesn't suddenly announce Hades is gonna be an exclusive.

spare ferry Mar 15, 2019, 3:44 AM

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We'll see. Just hope that Epic Games doesn't buy them off with all the money they earned from vbucks bought with mom's credit card

olive junco Mar 15, 2019, 5:14 AM

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https://youtu.be/PrpOh0Qo8Iw

YouTube

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copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:17 PM

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@tropic garden sorry for the ping but i need to know,, is ur username a dragon age reference

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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why yes it certainly is

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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rooWow

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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dont tell sgg i'm saying dirty words on their pg-13 server

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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skskgfd

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its our secret

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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fenris was my boiii

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i have a type

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sgg knows it

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

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me too GWqlabsMmSad i love him

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points at fenris and thanatos

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

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and sesshomaru

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blease

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

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rooKek

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

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and ulquiorra, you know, from bleach,

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god i'm such a weeb

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

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i havent seen bleach i couldnt get into it

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im a bad weeb

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

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that's so valid

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it's bad

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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LMAO

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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it's a bad show

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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usually whatever anime i finished last is my favourite bc im just like that

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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Most Shonen is tbh

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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at least the manga was stylin but then it just wouldn't end and tite kubo didn't know what to do, also he couldn't write female characters but hey

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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for example right now haikyuu is my favourite im still crying over it

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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haikyuu is good but i just. don't watch it gkjdfgfd

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

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Only good shonen are Soul Eater, FMA, BnHA, HxH and World Trigger

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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fma is so good ugh

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ive rewatched it like 12 times now

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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fma yesss

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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One Piece was good until the timeskip

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Then the designs went to hell

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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i have trouble committing to series longer than 23 episodes which is why i still haven't watched FMA

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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not the 03 version tho,, i only watch brotherhood

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im a fake fan GWqlabsMmSad

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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I watched both

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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i would only watch brotherhood, when i eventually get around to it

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Brotherhood was better, but the original had some cool things

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:21 PM

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03 wasnt great

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imo

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Oh and Digimon if you count that as shonen, I suppose

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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digimon omg

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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i didn't branch out in anime genres until i got into college and as a result my tastes now are what you might call ~artsy fartsy~

#

HEY DIGIMON TAMERS??

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Correct choice

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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for digimon i only watched the og

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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DIGIMON TAMERS WENT 10x HARDER THAN IT HAD TO

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i watched it as a child and it SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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and i only watched like half of the first season

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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Oh hey, what should we put into our childrens show about adventure

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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bc we had it on dvd

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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it's so good

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

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How about a child developing PTSD and going full catatonic after losing its friend

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Yknow

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For kids

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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and then she gets replaced by a creepy digital puppet version of herself for the latter half of the show

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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oh whoaa

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Yeah Tamers basically said

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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look digimon tamers doesn't play around

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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"Lets go as dark as possible while still technically being PG"

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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digimon tamers was rough

#

none of us are over leomon

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Really good show though

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Shh, spoilers

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

#

gkjdfhgkd

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

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now i need to watch more digimon

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Definitely watch tamers

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

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they're not gonna watch-- oh i stand corrected

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tamers is very good.

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Its the best, and you need no context for it

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

#

and if it smells a bit of serial experiments lain perhaps it's because it's the same...writer, was it?

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director?

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Writer, I think

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

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writer.

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

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the word experiments always makes me think of fma nina....

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rooCry

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Outside of Tamers, 1 was good but had a slow start, 2 was ok but had some weird elements, 4 had some good villains but mostly wasnt good

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

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four was weird

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Yes, but Mercurimon was hilarious

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Dude spoke in ye olde english in the dub

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

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four was extremely strange

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

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For no reason at all

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Savers/DATA Squad was not bad, and had some neat designs

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6 was .... not that good

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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digimon has always been better than pokemon tho and thats just facts, it's just more stylish and i say that with full knowledge that pokemon is, like, more creative with monster designs

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Eh

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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digimon has a more interesting aesthetic

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Id say Pokemon is less creative tbh

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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pokemon??? is more creative??????

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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i like them better gkjdfgfd

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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hello have u seen the pokemon that they named

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bewear

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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the puns are good

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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Most of their designs are just "animal with colour change", "Inanimate Object animated"

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

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digimon is like

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person but with armor

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person but with tech

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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i feel like this is highly subjective

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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person but with GUN

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Ehh

#

Digimon has revolver legs

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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it is subjective gkjdfgdf

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i like the overall aesthetic of digimon better

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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And Giant turtle that carries a whole city on its back

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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biyomon is the best digimon thank u for coming to my ted talk rooSip

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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the like mishmash of digital and natural

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Calumon

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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im a pokemon kinda person but only bc i was banned from digimon as a kid hjgjfhjfhj

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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beelzemon??????

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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you were

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banned

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from digimon

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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Actually, Reapmon

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

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YEAH my dad saw me watching it and went berserk for reasons unknown
pokemon was a-ok tho

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/digimon/images/6/6b/Reapmon_b.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101210043525

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

#

rooWut

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Look at this dork

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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yeah thats a person

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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ok yeah thats very good

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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gives me final fantasy vibes

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Though I prefer his original name Baalmon

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Its the zippers

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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yep

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its the zippers and the scarf thing

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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I love his design though

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

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hes like vincent but wearing white

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

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Especially that cape that consists of thousands of notes recording all of knowledge

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

#

what's my current favorite anime 🤔

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shouwa genroku rakugo shinju

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is extremely good

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

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good pokemon list: weavile. buneary. gardevoir. lucario. corsola. weezing. chikorita. infernape. whatever rowlet's final form is i forget

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

#

But yeah, Appli Monsters despite being odd was very good

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

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i think my current fave anime is utena (which i will say. BIG warning list to consider before watching)

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

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The characters were great and subversions of usual archetypes

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

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also i recommend you all watch samurai flamenco

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what a trip

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/digimon/images/9/96/Haru_Shinkai_t.gif/revision/latest?cb=20160609220835

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

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ohhhh you know whats good. i forgot the name but chise and elias

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

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This is the main character

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

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WHATS IT CALLED

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Ancient magus bride

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

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YESSS

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

#

He is quiet, reserved, and a booksmarts kinda guy

#

He is not the standard "rush in head-first" protagonist

#

And this is a rival turned ally

#

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/digimon/images/3/3c/Rei_Katsura_t.gif/revision/latest?cb=20161009025350

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He is not a brooding loner type

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But the most caring big brother Ive seen in anime since FMA

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:31 PM

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me, watches mainly shoujo: GWqlabsHyperSweats

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:32 PM

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shouwa genroku rakugo shinjuu is a josei 👀

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:32 PM

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90% of that sentence is japanese and it confused me

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:32 PM

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the title is very long im sorry

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josei is shoujo but grown up

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like seinen is shounen but grown up

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:32 PM

#

oh

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

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josei tends to have a more ummm understated art style and more serious themes while still sticking to topics like drama, love/romance, and slice of life

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the characters are usually older

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

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i see

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Whats Shoujo

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

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if pride and prejudice were an anime it would be a josei

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:34 PM

#

rooKek

#

i amn.... baby

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so maybe ill stay away from that for a bit

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:34 PM

#

that's valid. it's not explicit or anything but it can get kinda heavy

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:34 PM

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whats a good unheavy anime. hm. little witch academia

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:34 PM

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i wouldn't recommend explicit stuff on this server gkdfjgfd

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:34 PM

#

Puella Magi Madoka Magica

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

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that was............ yknow im honestly not sure how i feel about pmmm

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

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!! little witch academia is so good

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i Do not like madoka magica

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

#

AKKO IS A WHOLE MOOD...

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

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Its cute and friendly and nothing goes wrong

#

Its not heavy at all

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

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sure

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

#

controversial opinion that shouldnt be controversial: madoka magica is bad

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

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sure

#

the people at the sandwich shop didnt cut my panini aaah

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

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oh hey tsuritama is a good, upbeat little show

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Eh, I never actually watched it

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So I have no input on that

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Also god I wish we got more GitS SAC

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

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oh tsuritama!!

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

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The Major is so cool

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

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orange is a good show but that deals with,.,, h e avy topics

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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ohhhh i keep meaning to watch that

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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deals with mental health tho!

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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i did Not like orange.

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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its Very good

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

#

...

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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oh really?

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YIKES

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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agree to disagree gkjdfgdf

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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you are both valid

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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can i ask why

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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you know, i don't remember. i was pretty sick of it when i dropped it though

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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can i give an obscure rec. nuku nuku tv

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:37 PM

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it's been like 2 years

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:38 PM

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tbh i can see why someone wouldnt like it

#

it can get a bit like

#

'rlly.. this shhhhh again'

#

me, trying not to spoil

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

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Dennou Coil is very good. it deals with some heavier stuff but it was made for like...tweens, i think, so it's accessible

#

it's a sci-fi?

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i guess is the best genre

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

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ok. unpopular opinion k-on wasnt good bc the author doesnt understand how friendship works

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

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i need to watch k-on

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for the cute girls

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

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it has the most realistic child characters i've ever seen in an anime, ever
dennou coil, that is

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

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GWqlabsSweats

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

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oh can i give a rec for a manga. twin spica!!!!!

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

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owo

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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If you like fun shonen, Fire Brigade might be good

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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theres an anime i believe but it didnt get very far? the manga was a masterpiece tho, about a school for people training to be astronauts

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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The only problem is one character which is basically just ... fanservice

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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wait the art style for dennou coil is cute

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Uncomfortable amounts of fanservice

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

#

DENNOU COIL IS A BEAUTIFUL SHOW

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Fanservice can go die in a fire tbh

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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the animation is fantastic

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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welcome to dmc5 Lady was only there for fanservice

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

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and the art style is understated but sweet

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hold on hold on

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:41 PM

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twin spica can get heavy but not in an explicit way, in a grief-exploration way................. smh all my fave shows are just. trauma explorations

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:41 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD1WMzMlBQo

YouTube

David Kp

Dennou Coil Opening Creditless

Song: Prism by Ayako Ikeda. Anime created by Mitsuo Iso and Madhouse. I don't own the music and the anime. Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copy...

▶ Play video

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:41 PM

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oh just from the thumbnail i can tell

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thats gonna b GOOD

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:42 PM

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sci-fi mystery???

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:42 PM

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I dont like that artstyle

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:42 PM

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ur valid but consider: this show has a hacker granny

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:43 PM

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thats cute

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:43 PM

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fe/Twin_Spica_vol_1_manga_cover.jpg i open a manga i see supernatural elements as a way of exploring how people cope with trauma i hit the like button so hard my computer screen crashes

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oooh hacker grannyyyyy

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Actually thats one archetype I wish more anime had

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Strong old lady who could easily kick your ass

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But is also a sweet grandma

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

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ohhh that animation is 💯

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

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aaaaa eating hurts but im so.. hunger...

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

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OH ANOTHER GOOD REC: SHOULDER A COFFIN KURO

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

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eet

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

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im trying GWqlabsMmSad

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

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a mysterious traveler wanders trying to undo a curse on herself and her companion who has been turned into one thousand bats

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

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what

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i wanna be one thousand bats

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51nwrUQvh1L._SX346_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:46 PM

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looks like lucky star konata with glasses im interested

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:46 PM

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the manga is almost over, i think there may be only one volume left....ive been following it for many years ;o;

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hfhjfjfvhjfj shes very different personalitywise

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

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1000 bats?

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That seems excessive

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

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are you not 1000 bats

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

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Oh yeah, has anyone seen Kinos Journey?

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

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ive heard of it

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:48 PM

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It sounds neat, so I thought Id check it out at some point

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:48 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328306777609207808/556096317177331732/unknown.png

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it looks like im hardcore

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i just left it running by accident while i slept

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:48 PM

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https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/cmx-images-prod/Item/539433/Previews/3a9d38ef3f593d252a3e06c63375e2d0._SX1280_QL80_TTD_.jpg dont want to spoil anything good but the artist goes so far with the constraints of a four panel comic

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HJFHJFJFHJ 13 HOURS STRAIGHY

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

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ooh

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

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We all know that you left it open for 13 hours to admire Than

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You aint slick

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

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how did u know

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

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he watched over u uwu

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

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no no, that's hypnos

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

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hypnos: puts syd to sleep
thanatos: murders any nightmares

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

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i mean he is thanta claus,,,

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he sees u when ur sleeping,,, he knows when ur awake

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i didnt sleep until 4 am so

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:50 PM

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hjgvhjfhjfhj

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he knows when youve slept bad or good

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:50 PM

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Looks like Than is the god of getting restraining orders

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:50 PM

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PFFT

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now whenever i look at thanatos i just think like

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what if fenris da2 and miles edgeworth merged

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youd get thanatos

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:51 PM

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In fact, Than is a big fan of Radiohead

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

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i went for fenris and ulquiorra but the fenris is a big one

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it's the broody scowl that does it

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

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yep

pale frigate Mar 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Than is no creep tho

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he’s just in the right place at the right time

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/9/97/Youngsworth.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/310?cb=20161208175930

#

hes just....

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old man thanatos..

tropic garden Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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i can't believe off-topic is on-topic. wild

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

#

Now we just need a Gumshoe in Hades

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

#

please id cry

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

#

~~Or in Ace Attorney, for that matter~~

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

#

i miss gumshoe so much

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

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Yeeees

#

Dude was the best pal a guy could have

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

#

im playing through spirit of justice atm and im so happy that mayas back! but

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wheres gumshoe.... wheres franziska... hello? i need my bbys...

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Well, the good news is

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Gumshoe gets a shoutout in SoJ

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

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i miss franziskaaaa

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

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So he isnt forgotten

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

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and gumshoueee

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

#

franziska tho

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

#

Honestly I dont mind that Franziska isnt appearing as much, it makes sense with her character

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

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i just want.... hd franziska

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

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Thats fair

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

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i swear if in the next game they add a new prosecutor im gonna go feral

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

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I want HD gumshoe

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You know theyre going to

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

#

ill be so mad we have ENOUGH PROSECUTORS

#

i dun wanna give any ,,, spirit of justice spoilers but

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

#

Also we need closure on Gumshoe x Maggie

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

#

||if they replace apollo now that hes gone im gonna cry||

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

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||Well, either the next game is about Apollo rebuilding his nation, or its about the rest of the agency working||

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||I wouldnt mind an Athena-centric game for once||

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

#

me either athena deserves better

#

they added her and she had such a cool story

#

but now u could like,, ,take her out and the game would be the same

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

#

Also we need Lana Skye back

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

#

YES GIMME THE SKYE SISTERS!!!!

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

#

Im just happy that Ema is finally happy

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Me too im so proud of her

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

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athena deserves better!!!

#

yess ema good

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

#

It was so great

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

#

athena cykes protection squad pull up to capcom hq

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

#

🚙

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

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To see her sprite have that "FORENSICS" thing on her side

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 PM

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SHOUT OUT TO ATHENA CY- wait oh my god. im so sorry athena. whisper out to athena cykes.

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 PM

#

AHAHA

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 PM

#

😂

#

i feel it tho...we stan a sensory queen

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 PM

#

honestly athena working at the wright anything agency must be the worst thats the loudest group of people you can find

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:00 PM

#

they buy her noise canceling headphones for her bday

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

#

Also loved seeing Emas smug sprite being replaced by a genuinly happy sprite

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

#

they have the little cat ear design and she tears up

#

awwww

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

#

THATS WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY

#

blackquill would do that

#

hes the biggest weeb

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

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YESSS

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

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followed closely by apollo

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

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Blackquill is great

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

#

ive seen his manga collection in the office hes not fooling me

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

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wright anything agency has a lil closet set aside for Athena To Chill

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:01 PM

#

thats rlly cute rooCry

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

Not a lil closet

#

A soundproofed room

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

sometimes all you need is a small dark square! def soundproofed tho yeah

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

~~Which Apollo also uses for his lets play channel~~

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

BAHAHA

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

apollo im dying "UHHHH THATS IT FOR FORTNITE GUYS"

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:02 PM

#

All his videos start so loudly you have to adjust the volume down

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

hey guys apollo justice here welcome back to my minecraft lets play last episode i got blOWN UP BY A CREEPER

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

HELLO YOUTUBE

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

soundproof walls can even help him

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

"IM APOLLO JUSTICE AND I FEEL FINE"

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

that made me think of clay

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

Actually, was that what he says?

#

I cant remember

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:03 PM

#

GWqlabsMmSad

#

im fine is what it usually is

#

bc phoenix calls him mr. fine in the first case of apollo justice ace attorney

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:04 PM

#

But yes, we got Happy Ema and Happy Maya

#

Give us Happy Gumshoe

#

Gumshoe as the police tech lead

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:04 PM

#

give me happy franziska... please

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:04 PM

#

And married to Maggie

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:05 PM

#

the gays need franziska capcom... please feed us...

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:05 PM

#

Franziska and Adrian Andrews

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:05 PM

#

im still shook at franziska teaching her to use a whip

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

Yeah no thats definitely not PG

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

STOP GDFKJFD

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

i tab out for one second to draw athena cykes and you do this blease

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

ugh this conversation is reminding me that i need to play aa: investigations

#

my brother keeps snapchatting me asking me if ive started 2 yet

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

#

inevitably she will miss a murder because of these but for now WHAT A NICE GIFT

📎 aathena.png

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

#

It was never properly translated

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

#

OMG

#

i love her

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

#

So I just read up on plot points

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

#

i know im playing it Very Very legally

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:07 PM

#

Now Im not sure Ill get the full experience playing the english patch

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

#

im playing a Very Legal Version of investigations 2

#

:)

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:08 PM

#

Ok, now the interesting question

#

Who is Ema shipped with

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:09 PM

#

honestly i didnt ship her with anyone until i played soj

#

and then i read a ~~klavier x apollo~~ fic that had ema/nahyuta

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and ever since then ive been ruined

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

Ehhh

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

also klavier deserves better please bring him back and give him backstory

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

I dont think Nahyuta is a good fit

#

He is just boring

#

I mean the canon ship is Ema x Forensics

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

true

#

TRUE

#

if that one fic didnt ruin me

#

i wouldnt ship ema with anyone

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

Ive also seen a lot of Athena x Apollo and Im ... not sure what to think of it?

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

yeaaah,,,

#

im not digging it

#

hit me with athena/juniper

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

But Juniper only cares for Apollo

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

shh

#

girls

#

also thats not true!!!

#

juniper cares alot for athena theyre best friends

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

I mean in a non-platonic way

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

i see

#

again i ignored it bc ... klavier..

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

Now, the other interesting question

#

Robin Newman

#

Did you also think her portrayal was very .... not good?

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:12 PM

#

Not good.

#

i HATE that case with a passion theyre lucky they put klavier in there to save it for me

#

i thought turnabout big top was bad

#

nope

#

it got worse

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:13 PM

#

I dont hate it, but that part was very questionable

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:14 PM

#

yeah

#

i really hate that trope

#

like ouran high school host club style

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:14 PM

#

Now, whats the worst case of those youve played

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:15 PM

#

hmm

#

im gonna say a controversial opinion: every case in apollo justice was great and its my favourite game

#

now that ive gotten that out the way

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:15 PM

#

Is that controversial?

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:15 PM

#

yes people HATE apollo justice

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:15 PM

#

Actually yeah, the Kitaki case was bad

#

The rest were good

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:16 PM

#

no!!! i loved the kitaki case

#

3rd case syndrome in ace attorney rlly hits

#

like picking the worst out of the worst is hard

#

ACTUALLY NO

#

I TAKE BACK WHAT I SAID

#

the case in apollo justice

#

where they make u watch that one clip

#

over

#

and over

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:17 PM

#

2 words

#

Wesley Stickler

#

Turnabout Serenade

#

Yeah that one is a top contender for worst case for a lot of people

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:19 PM

#

wesley was gross

#

but he was

#

yeah he was gross

#

but the kitaki case was sweet and it made me cry

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:19 PM

#

Also yknow what I want

#

A spinoff game where the old guard of Ace Attorney gets together and just plays poker

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:20 PM

#

poker in AA never ends well

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:20 PM

#

~~With Gumshoe inexplicably being ridiculously good at Poker~~

#

True but still

#

Imagine Poker Night at the Inventory, but with Ace Attorney peeps

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:20 PM

#

a mess

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:21 PM

#

Shhh

#

Maybe even have the poker table/card skins like in PNatI

#

And have Edgeworth geek out at the Steel Samurai skins

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:23 PM

#

id cry

#

theres a picture of him getting a signature from will powers while everyone plays the wii

#

and in the next picture hes sitting next to the signature (now framed) and playing on the wii with it

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:25 PM

#

Cute

#

Also I hope they fully resolve the Maya Phoenix subplot soon

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:26 PM

#

?

#

wdym by that

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

Yknow

#

The canon ship

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:27 PM

#

volfredthink

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:30 PM

#

since when are they a canon ship :0

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:31 PM

#

I mean, they really starting being on-the-nose about it in SoJ I suppose

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:31 PM

#

ohhh. havent played that one yet tbh

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:33 PM

#

im on the sidelines for this one lads

#

hot take i dont like maya/phoenix

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:33 PM

#

same tbh

#

😔

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:34 PM

#

Any particular reason?

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:34 PM

#

i see maya and phoenix's relationship as like funky siblings

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:35 PM

#

yeah same

#

or like an uncle and niece thing

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:36 PM

#

Hm

#

I guess I could see it, but they seemed more like just close friends to me

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:36 PM

#

it felt to me like phoenix was trying to be like mia but different

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:36 PM

#

mhm!!

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:36 PM

#

f for mia

#

i miss her :(

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 1:36 PM

#

🇫

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:36 PM

#

Well, no matter what happens

#

She will always be with us in spirit

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:37 PM

#

mia lives through charley the house plant

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:37 PM

#

Also how comes everyones parents in this series die

#

Actually wait

#

Do we know anything about Phoenix's parents?

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:38 PM

#

no but

#

as far as i know theyre ok

#

all he mentions abt family rlly is that hes an only child

#

OOH that reminds me

#

im sick of the apollo and trucy sibling thing like

#

did they forget abt it

#

teLL THEM CAPCOM

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:41 PM

#

Hold on, there is a great comic for this somewhere

#

Yeah no I cant find it

#

I did find these though

#

https://i.redd.it/vgii6xwh7fxx.jpg

#

What if Trucy and Apollo switched roles

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:43 PM

#

THATS RLLY CUTE EEK

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:44 PM

#

Especially Apollo in the bottom right

#

He is so adorable

#

Also, have a vintage AwkwardZombie

#

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/743/021/988.png

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:45 PM

#

hot take: FRICK BOBBY FULBRIGHT

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:45 PM

#

Honestly thats one thing I really liked about Ace Attorney, there are strong characters of all kinds

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:45 PM

#

i hated him through the whole game

#

the last case REALLY sealed the deal for me

#

oh man

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:46 PM

#

I didnt, but I didnt like that he stole Gumshoes role

#

Even strong gay characters if you count Adrian Andrews and Franziska

#

Which tbh I do

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:47 PM

#

i finished the last case of DD at 5 am so it was basically me screeching as quiet as possible at my ds

#

while that happened

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:47 PM

#

Which that do you mean

#

Oh

#

You mean the creepy that?

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:48 PM

#

the whole that

#

the whole case made me so mad

#

i love athena and blackquill so much

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:48 PM

#

I did like the case

#

Especially the part where I went "Oh so thats why its rated M"

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:49 PM

#

fgdffd

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:50 PM

#

God that part was so creepy

#

||Poor Athena||

#

Its funny actually how noone in the Ace Attorney main group has had a normal childhood

#

Except for Phoenix

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 1:53 PM

#

wright anything agency he collects kids with trauma and makes them feel better

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 1:53 PM

#

Oh my god Phoenix is just a therapist

serene tulip Mar 15, 2019, 3:33 PM

#

Unrelatedly: I think all y'all are pretty cool and I believe in you.

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 3:35 PM

#

starB ❤

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 3:45 PM

#

aww rooHug

#

my cough is getting worse and worse and rlly thanatos just take me away at this point

vocal brook Mar 15, 2019, 3:50 PM

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I misread that as couch and thought "didn't know people were that attached to their furniture"

copper lark Mar 15, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

BAHAH

tiny stream Mar 15, 2019, 5:00 PM

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is it possible for mods to remove reactions from posts? There are some questionable ones in the hades patch notes channel 😓

cunning holly Mar 15, 2019, 5:13 PM

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supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 5:15 PM

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I am a jerk for asking that.

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ionic viper Mar 15, 2019, 5:17 PM

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oh, thanks!

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 5:20 PM

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What were the inappropriate reactions?

random nova Mar 15, 2019, 5:20 PM

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mildy nsfw, it's taken care of tho

supple terrace Mar 15, 2019, 5:21 PM

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Aah.

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Hello. It was first result for me on google and I haven't heard it much but if it makes somebody uncomfortable then well there are plenty of alternatives that are cool

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 6:57 PM

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yeah, thats my thoughts as well

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its obviously used enpugh that a person caught it!

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Nice fact: cheers is a fun word that I can now use constantly

random nova Mar 15, 2019, 6:57 PM

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that is a fair point

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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So yeah. It was recognized and we were told and if it's like that then no problem, takes less effort to not type a word

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I mean Ive even heard it used as an endearing term more than a slur

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Shame, its a good word when used in its common usage

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Ah well

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Blast always works

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 6:59 PM

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blast works, yeah!

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Ya it adds a whole new weird dimension to Orson Scott Card's paradoxical homophobia too

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Given he used that term for his turned out not to be evil aliens in Enders Game

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 7:01 PM

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oh did he!!

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Ya, that was what humans called the insectoid aliens they were killing

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 7:02 PM

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yikes

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 7:03 PM

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👀

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 7:03 PM

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He is american

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Apparently there the etymology means something along the lines of small critter/insect

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So, probably that is the reason

random nova Mar 15, 2019, 7:03 PM

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while that may be true, i still think multiple perspectives have to be taken into consideration

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:04 PM

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||Which it turns out were actually not evil and Ender finds out after he genocides all of them|| ending spoilers

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It comes off as weirdly self aware and contradictory to how openly homophobic he is.

sharp grail Mar 15, 2019, 7:05 PM

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o o f

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 7:05 PM

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Well, etymology often ends up having little to nothing to do with contemporary use of terms

sharp grail Mar 15, 2019, 7:05 PM

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i never finished reading the first book, thats... something

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 7:06 PM

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and those are some wild takes mr scott wow

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 7:07 PM

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True, but from what I can tell, what little contemporary use there was in the US in the late 80s, it was used as a standin for "whippersnapper"

tame wagon Mar 15, 2019, 7:07 PM

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i want to get off mr card's wild ride

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Then again, thats just a me doing a quick glance over some notes Ive got lying around

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:11 PM

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I honestly still like Enders game. I just find it impossible to reconcile with the author. Its entire thesis goes against everything Card himself seems to stand for.

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Never read the sequels though so can't speak to those

hasty kernel Mar 15, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Cognitive dissonance

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Not an uncommon phenomenon

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:12 PM

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But like, how did he even come up with the story to begin with

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I don't think he was Aware

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:12 PM

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The book almost reads as self criticism

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Never read it so I can't know but sounds like one of those times when an author steps on their own feet

tame wagon Mar 15, 2019, 7:13 PM

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never underestimate heterosexual lack of self awareness

stable venture Mar 15, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Yeah basically

tame wagon Mar 15, 2019, 7:14 PM

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just like don't expect virulent homophobes to have an internally consistent framework of logic that stands up to scrutiny

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:15 PM

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True

tame wagon Mar 15, 2019, 7:16 PM

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i read ender's game years ago, tbh i still fondly regard it in my memory, though i'm sure if i read it again it'd be ...... eh

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like, whatever, i was edgy and young and impressionable

heavy galleon Mar 15, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Ya its been about 17 years since I read it

tame wagon Mar 15, 2019, 7:25 PM

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we (as an adult society) really do belittle and dismiss teenagers for everything they feel so yeah, no wonder teenagers are universally attracted to anything that validates them even a little. and despite everything awful about it, ender's game was good at making teenagers feel understood.

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probably still is

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is there something leery about authoritative adults producing content targeted at impressionable teens? ehhh yeah probably

tardy anchor Mar 15, 2019, 7:28 PM

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yeah, its a weird thing because like- teens dont always write, great, but on the other hand who are adults to tell teens stuff