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pastel phoenix
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No worries, Fiorinol! It happens.

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For some people it's practically a sport!

solemn sierra
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It is!

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I've met some interesting people while working, some good, some pretty bad. I did too at conventions!

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Convention Horror Stories(tm)

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Although some of them are more funny than anything else. Once at Katsucon, it's about 15 farenheit outside, and the convention center decided to evacuate, because some higher intelligence lifeform put grease in a microwave and made it catch fire through microwave magicks! They had to get out the emergency blankets for a lot of cosplayers. Meanwhile I'm just sitting there at 15f in a t-shirt, and I'm like, meh, CANADA.

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Reminds me of a similar case with Otakon, where a lot of attendees were thrown onto Pratt Street at roughly 95f

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oh boy

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I like my air conditioning

lapis swallow
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that was a fun katsu haha

solemn sierra
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I was surprised they actually had emergency blankets

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One year at Magfest, which is at the same venue, the gaylord national in DC/MD, I'm not sure if it's in DC or MD. The gaylord national emergency broadcast alert sounds like it's right out of resident evil, we got woken up at, I think, about 3-4am, and we're told to take the staircase

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The people who didn't shower

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๐Ÿ‘€

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Not only does it smell horrible, you get 3-4 of these smart people, myself included, doing the colossus roar. The colossus roar is kind of Magfest's marco polo, and when someone does it, it never ends, because there's always someone on the other end of the venue who answers.

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All in all, that was a fun time

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I might do magfest again next year. I don't do Katsucon anymore, a lot of things with the event just made me not go anymore. Same with Anime Boston.

pastel phoenix
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Ouch

solemn sierra
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Well, it's a long way from home. It's a 10-hour drive for me plus a border crossing.

pastel phoenix
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oh

slow lark
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@faint panther IT ME sorry i am technically at work so i had to go... do work...

solemn sierra
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Katsucon is more of a community thing. Katsucon has kind of become the defacto convention for cosplay elitism, mostly because of a lot of the locales where you can take photos, like the big inside gazebo. It used to be a meme, where if you took a photo with the gazebo, you would become "cosfamous" (Short for cosplay famous). The management with panels also has problems, a bunch of fellow panelists got screwed over at the event due to poor management.

pastel phoenix
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huh. Did not know that.

solemn sierra
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I'm sure @lapis swallow knows lol

pastel phoenix
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I've been absent from the scene for years since I resigned as a club moderator.

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Didn't want to be one in the first place, but every group needs a Team Mom/Dad to make sure things happen and that trouble doesn't escalate too far

lapis swallow
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for me, Katsucon is just SUPER crowded now

solemn sierra
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Yea, there's also that, it's a venue that should take 10k attendees tops.

lapis swallow
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I'm thinking of switching to MAG just because generally I am more into gaming than anime so not only is it less crowded for cosplay but also more catered to my interests

solemn sierra
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Their location also sucks, eating anywhere is hell. The venue doesn't have good food, the only thing decent close is a subway, otherwise the neighborhood it's in is rich people town. Only rich people live there, so all the food is super expensive.

lapis swallow
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yeah and braving the sometimes frigid temps to eat downtown is sometimes annoying.

slow lark
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Yo as someone who has only ever been to a con once on a very spur of the moment thing being dragged along by a friend

solemn sierra
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Oh yea, it's super windy

lapis swallow
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spent so much time in the national pasttime lol

slow lark
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What are good... starter cons?

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On the East Coast USA

solemn sierra
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Also a lot of my old con mates got hit by this thing called real life, so it's very difficult for me to get rooming these days. There was also a lot of drama

lapis swallow
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OH BOY @slow lark i have some suggestions

solemn sierra
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I decided to leave the big group I was in, because I didn't want to stand by the decisions a few members of the group made.

slow lark
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Oooo good

lapis swallow
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AnimeNEXT which, just recently happened is a good one in NJ. it's in Atlantic City now and they recently moved to a nice bigger venue

solemn sierra
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I have no idea how Otakon is now that they've changed venues. No more ice cold water man.

lapis swallow
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A Video Game Con will be in a convention center this year but that's a nice small gaming con

slow lark
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That sounds cool as beans

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Where is that?

pastel phoenix
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AnimeNEXT got bigger again? Wow, I'm out of the loop

proven pecan
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I liked spiral cats cosplay because even without the gazebo they just have that one door covered in smoke they all stand with that's apparently a green screen

lapis swallow
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AVGC is gonna be at the Meadowlands Expo Center in Seacaucus

solemn sierra
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I think Nekocon is a decent small sized con, it's in hampton roads, it's in the south of virginia. There's animazement which is in north carolina strangely enough. You've got Katsucon/Otakon/Anime USA around the MD/DC area

lapis swallow
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There's Derpycon which is in Morristown I think. At a hotel/convention center. Pretty small but I haven't been in a while

solemn sierra
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I think there are some conventions in pennsylvania, I think it's mostly known for Anthrocon though (I would not recommend that convention, because it's a furry convention, take that as you will, but the people running it are very nice! I like them a lot!), you've got a few new york conventions, anime boston in boston of course.

lapis swallow
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AnimeNYC will be in the Javitts Center where New York Comic Con is but it's a fraction of the crowd as NYCC

slow lark
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How early should one plan these things

solemn sierra
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6 months.

pastel phoenix
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^^^

slow lark
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Okay good.

lapis swallow
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depends on if you're cosplaying or not haha

solemn sierra
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But that's just me. You want to book a hotel as close to the venue as possible. I know it costs a bit more, but it's worth it for how much you'll walk. Especially if you cosplay.

lapis swallow
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but generally hotel rates, ticket prices, etc. are available months in advance

pastel phoenix
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

solemn sierra
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Even if you have a hotel room with a teleporter that teleports into the convention, your feet will still hurt at the end of the weekend.

pastel phoenix
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things get expensive REALLY fast if you don't plan early

solemn sierra
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That too

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Also need to find roomies unless you want to airbnb or something.

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or pay a lot for hotel

slow lark
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I am assuming that convention-feet is much like Disney theme park feet

lapis swallow
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it is haha

proven pecan
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remember to avoid convention plague: hand sanitizer, bring your own water, and ricola, halls, fisherman's friend

solemn sierra
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As for the reason I don't go to anime boston anymore. The police-mandated bag checks are a big reason. It's not the fault of the event sadly, the venue strong-armed it in after the marathon bombings which happened 2 streets away from the Hynes convention center. Unlike the PAX East bag checks that are run by people who are very polite, I don't know what's up with Anime Boston's bag check. It's terrible.

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Also I used to volunteer for some conventions, but that gets tiring, especially with the politics and people never being happy with anything.

proven pecan
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one day I'm just gonna get an ita bag and fill the clear section to the brim with ricola.

solemn sierra
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People come up to you and complain, but sadly, most of them are very unaware of the reality of running an event with 10k attendees or so

lapis swallow
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SNACKS ARE ESSENTIAL

proven pecan
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if you're working at the vendors hall: not all conventions have carpet, bring slippers in case you don't have enough seats and external batteries in case things go horribly wrong

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heels = pain flats = pain just find non pain shoes

solemn sierra
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Yea, I know Nature Valley bars are kind of a meme for conventions

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but

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get a full box of em

proven pecan
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no one will know except other vendors who realize this is what we need to survive ;v;b

honest spoke
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don't use their bathrooms.

slow lark
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The more y'all share (and i am loving all this advice thank thank thank) the more I feel like its "Plan for Disney except not"

honest spoke
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"Plans for Disney except better"

solemn sierra
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I used to know the people who worked for Pawstars and Hendane, and sometimes they would sleep in their vans hahahaha

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poor folks

lapis swallow
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"Plan for Disney except more Face Characters"

stoic turtle
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off topic channel GWfroggyPoggers

solemn sierra
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We got them to room with us sometimes

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don't sleep in your car lollll

slow lark
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"Except more Face Characters" xD

pastel phoenix
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In some cities, sleeping in your vehicle will bring the police

slow lark
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But really "shell out for on-property hotel, bring snacks, medicine, water & shoes"

proven pecan
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plan travel ahead of time: how you're getting there and back too

solemn sierra
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Pawstars was mostly a dealers booth that would sell furry stuff to people, and Hendane dealt with huh.... COME GET YOUR YAOI COMICS slaps giant wooden paddles together

proven pecan
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and if you're cosplaying: designing props that can travel is a mystery to me to this day o_o

solemn sierra
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The madmen

pastel phoenix
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I used to build kits for people to transport their cosplay

slow lark
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Paddles?

solemn sierra
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Yes, yaoi paddles

slow lark
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Is... that a thing i need to

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Know about?

solemn sierra
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No, it's just a joke that they have running

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Usually the vendor next to them makes the big eyes

pastel phoenix
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Beyond that, I used to bring a tackle box of first aid and cosplay repair supplies

solemn sierra
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and they stop

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๐Ÿ‘€

proven pecan
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that's genius O___O

pastel phoenix
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Having extra supplies for repairs makes you practically a god

solemn sierra
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I remember we had people who brought out entire sewing machines

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hahahaha

proven pecan
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I'm one of those ._.

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now I pack lighter, just emergency sewing kit

pastel phoenix
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oh man, the people who brought vintage Sergers

proven pecan
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my dad took the portable Singer from 1912

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=_=

solemn sierra
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Also, even if you're a guy, never, ever, ever room with just cosplay women in a hotel room

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I know some guys might be into that

proven pecan
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it's all metal

solemn sierra
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but

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no

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please don't do it

proven pecan
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I really appreciate guerilla glue and their clear tapes

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so stronk

solemn sierra
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You'll have to wake up at 4-5am to help people with their makeup and help them put on their cosplay that is expressively designed to not be put on by one person and that they can't take off by themself.

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And then you'll be done at about 10am and go back to sleep

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Terrible experience, would not do again

proven pecan
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woah that's... not cooll :/

pastel phoenix
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I have seen things I did not want to see that way

slow lark
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I think rooming with hardcore cosplay for a first con might be

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A bit much XD

proven pecan
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... I come a family of tailors/seamstresses/embroiderers so that's not really a thing :/

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makeup and wig prep take long

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but clothes not being easy to put on is no goob ._.

solemn sierra
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And then you have to carry someone back to the hotel room after their photoshoot in your arms, because they're very smart and they really wanted to wear those totally not dangerous high heels, and their feet are bleeding.

proven pecan
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I only wear terrible shoes AT the photoshoot not before. comfortable shoes til I get where I need >_>;;;;

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then again... common sense is rarest sense

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according to my psychology profs D:

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since it's also relative to the area you're in

pastel phoenix
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don't forget the bathroom/restroom horrors

solemn sierra
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Well, it's anime cons, common sense is rare at anime cons I'm afraid

pastel phoenix
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some people forget to build costumes that allow you to perform bodily functions

proven pecan
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i.e. if I'm like in Nunavut: what do in such snowy conditions = not common sense to say someone from nomadic Uighur by Gobi Dessert culture

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like what do with all that sand

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and vice versa

slow lark
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Oh my god

solemn sierra
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lol

slow lark
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@pastel phoenix you have to be joking

pastel phoenix
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I wish I were joking

slow lark
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How do you

proven pecan
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OH yeah remember to bring a small pouch of pouporri OR wear perfume/cologne on your wrist

slow lark
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Forget....

proven pecan
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for when lineups get stinky.

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so you can live

solemn sierra
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As for the reason I don't go to anime boston anymore. The police-mandated bag checks are a big reason. It's not the fault of the event sadly, the venue strong-armed it in after the marathon bombings which happened 2 streets away from the Hynes convention center. Also because some of the admin politics, when I stopped going, it got really bad.

pastel phoenix
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I have had to build funnels for people who got "trapped" to put it mildly

slow lark
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Eugh

proven pecan
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I remember when fanexpo had the signs: Good Hygiene is essential

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... the smell was less bad that year

slow lark
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I've been thinking about investing in the disposable face-mask things for, like, colds and stuff

proven pecan
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sars masks

pastel phoenix
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do it

proven pecan
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covered in cute things are kinda a thing

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_>

slow lark
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I mean i have some pretty harsh dust/dustmight allergies anyways

proven pecan
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nice

slow lark
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So it would probably behoove me to have them anyways

proven pecan
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so mask would keep ur allergies awayy

slow lark
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And you can also drop a few drops of menthol in them

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And not have to smell anything else for the next 10 hrs

solemn sierra
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Anime cons also get boring over time, because most of the events are hosted by amateurs who can't hold a high school-level presentation together, like panels.

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Especially if you don't involve yourself in cosplay or some other thing

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I mean, it's probably not fair to judge them that way since I make terrible youtube videos but

slow lark
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I mean, I'd probably be more interested in gaming-based cons and stuff regardless

solemn sierra
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but my terrible videos are probably better than their panels, so that's something

slow lark
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I can list all the anime I've watched on one hand?

solemn sierra
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Gaming conventions tend to be far more focused experiences

proven pecan
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I haven't been to those panels ._. or any panels at conventions other than TCAF the Toronto Comics Arts Festival because they get panelists from artists, novelists, mangaka, comics artists, game devs... plus it's the only free convention I know of .... their panels range from dude that created evangelion to former hostess turned mangaka to artists for like DC and marvel too... and my literary profs entertaining new narrative formats emerging with digital mediums etc.

solemn sierra
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People go to magfest to go get drunk, play free arcades, and hang out with drunk internet celebs.

slow lark
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Naruto, Binan Shoujo Nozaki-Kun, the magical boy parody anime, little witch academia (if that counts), and... one punch man?

solemn sierra
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People go to pax to visit the expo, where developers showcase their games, or sell wares

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Ah, a toronto person

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How's your parking lot anime convention?

proven pecan
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you mean the initial D car modding people

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I don't know if they still meet at Pacific Mall

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or have moved on to Itasha car decals o__o;;;;

solemn sierra
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Anime North is always a convention that sticks out to me because of its weird layout, the convention is held in many buildings, separated by a bridge, so people tend to hang out in the giant parking lot around the biggest building

proven pecan
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OOH

solemn sierra
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Hence why people tend to refer to it as the parking lot convention

proven pecan
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I work indoors for Anime North

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so I tend to not go outside

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I used to help friends out in artist alley

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and other buddies that work in the vendors room @_@;;;;

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I didn't even know it's called parking lot convention

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@_@

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I stopped around 2 years ago due to health problemsX_x

slow lark
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Not counting travel/stay/food/ticket expenses, what are budgets people do for

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I guess merch and stuff?

solemn sierra
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Yea, for me it's mostly me dropping out of a big con group due to internal drama, and the people left to room with ended up not being able to go to cons much anymore

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I guess it's a two-part story thing, if you ask them, they'll tell you they kicked me out for reasons, and if you ask me, I'll tell you I left for other reasons

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Overall it was a mess

proven pecan
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Fiorinol I dipped the second year cuz of similar reasons o_o;;;;

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my health is goob now! but not even sure if there's a group for AN next year lol....

solemn sierra
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I was supposed to room with some people who ended up not going

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they were mad at how Square Enix handled the Final Fantasy TCG tournament

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Especially with how Quebec is excluded for, well, no reason other than SE being lazy now.

proven pecan
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awww Quebec be where the game devs at tho ;A; how could they exclude our industry!?

solemn sierra
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SE doesn't want to bother with the paperwork or the new laws

proven pecan
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omgg

solemn sierra
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I don't know, I live in Montreal, and I think the indie game dev scene is somewhat of a hellscape right now

slow lark
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Wait there's a final fantasy tcg?

solemn sierra
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Yea

slow lark
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Is it good?

solemn sierra
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It's prohibitively expensive for how dead it is

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It's fun to play though

slow lark
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Ah

proven pecan
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it's relatively okay in Toronto (indie) but our AAA industry is Quebec tho ๐Ÿ˜ฎ so it's surprising to me that SE would fail to accommodate to Quebec O_o

solemn sierra
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The AAA industry is in another sphere than indies

proven pecan
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I attend game jams over here in Toronto ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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It's very vibrant and bubbly

cyan dove
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Hello beautiful people

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just read the email

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im positively pumped

solemn sierra
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It's difficult to explain why Montreal's indie scene is terrible without getting into the politics of it, and that gets awkward very fast. It's also an odd subject to approach, because if I throw it on Youtube, it'll be like...

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throwing a bleeding body at the sharks

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Won't fix anything either

proven pecan
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welp if games are goob they will be played

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no matter where they're made I think

solemn sierra
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That's part of the problem

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the games are not that good

proven pecan
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at least in terms of mobile games

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like alpaca evolution

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welp polish until it be goob >:B

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no one starts running

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we all began our lives crawling

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as long as devs keep at it, I believe they'll make something lovely sooner or later o_o

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I can't imagine a first iteration being perfect D:

solemn sierra
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Of course, there's always people that will make good games, but from querying people quite extensively, quite a few devs decided to take a step back from the "community" and just work on their stuff themselves in private. Usually you want to go in game devs groups, because you want to hang out with people that will make you grow, or motivate you, not people that will pull you down.

proven pecan
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that sounds too complicated

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I just want to make games I want to play

solemn sierra
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It's a complicated issue

proven pecan
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like

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my friends at 13AM games are like that too

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like start with making something you genuinely want to play yourself

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and even for global game jam last yr it was like theme was waves

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we decided to make a goofy game about danny devito lubing up the world with hand sanitizer, WAVES of it

solemn sierra
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Video games are the "hot" thing that everyone wants to say they're involved into, so you get a lot of people, who, IMO, shouldn't be in these groups. They want to do everything through video games.

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And that's a very divisive opinion to hold

proven pecan
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like we grow all our lives, our brain chemistry changes everytime we learn something new, it's hard not to grow. and if ppl leave groups behind to work and learn on their own, good on em

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all sorts of things motivate ppl to play games and make games

solemn sierra
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It reminds me of a story from, I think it was Edmund McMillen, talking about the original indies from Xbox Live Arcade, who would mostly hang out on a Skype group, and it got toxic as the number of people grew, because not all of them could be successful anymore, and jealousy took roots very quickly.

proven pecan
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hmm welp if success is the goal instead of fun

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then that's a problem

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xD

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I mean it's good to be able to pay the bills, but for one thing I admire Supergiant Games because they create great games and seem like a lovely group of devs who make something different each time they release something

solemn sierra
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That's another part of the problem I suppose. Fun is good and all, but hanging out with people who make games in Twine, most of these games are very unimaginative, and I know in a lot of game dev groups nowadays, they scorn people who look down on Twine games, it doesn't make me grow as a creator. If I can rig something in OpenGL from scratch, the skill level is very different.

proven pecan
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Even if Pyre got delayed for additional time, I'd know that it's cuz they value making something fun and up to a standard that they won't compromise on.

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I guess I didn't really hang out with bigger community of game devs, just a few indies here and there

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then again I don't exactly hang out with them to make games, more like : another ramen place opened up, wanna go? or ghibli movie in theatre, let's go!

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in terms of learning to dev games at post grad, my classmates are collaborators and English and French aren't everyone's first language xD so there are problems with communication sometimes. But seeing each other face to face and sketching out what they mean sometimes solves problems

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it's easy to generate tons of ideas, it's hard to execute it in a fun form @_@

solemn sierra
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This is when I'll bridge into the politics a bit. Imagine if instead of making Braid, Jonathan Blow made a game where it's text on a screen that tells you very overtly "Wow, here's a thing that goes on in society that I don't like, thing is bad", it's not very interesting, nobody would have played Braid. And the person in the group somehow gets congratulated for doing that. If you go to one of the professional art studios in this city, and they teach you how to draw, they have industry veterans who teach you how to draw from life, and they won't shy away from telling you that something in your drawing's bad or uninteresting.

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I think what drives me nuts is the complete lack of imagination, or framing. It's like part of modern art, go any traditional artist, and they'll tell you how much they don't like modern art.

proven pecan
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I guess I lucked out with graphic novel art courses that they quite liked that modern fellow Duchamp

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because his art was things that makes him laugh

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actually if he was a live, I'd imagine he'd make butt jokes with VR technology

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I took an East Asian Female Icongraphylast 200 years course to teach something similar: if you want your art showcased in the west, paint the women with French women's bodies. Because our ideal of Pear isn't good enough. They prefer Hourglass and long legs.

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Korean plastic industry, Japan's Final Fantasy 12's remodelling of Ashe are examples this is

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200 years worth of fitting some non-realistic ideal

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=_=;

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I think the basics in the other art courses I took were like : learn to draw from real life, and then when you graduate stylize it however you want. :/

solemn sierra
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Instead of just having a white on black text that says "Inequality is bad!", how about you make a universe, with characters I can get invested in, interesting things to see and experience. Games like Papers, Please and Cart Life have very strong opinions about certain subjects, but they don't just write it out on the screen.

proven pecan
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One of the more ridiculous things is that Robotnik is pro industrialization and mechanization via ford assembly lines versus Sonic who is a naturalist fighting for the freedom to be organic and round

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it's naturalism vs mechanization

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but it's so subtle

pastel phoenix
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It's hard to say that I enjoyed Papers, Please but it was a fantastic game I spent a lot of time playing

solemn sierra
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It's a very odd game.

proven pecan
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I haven't heard of it ๐Ÿ˜ฎ googling it noww

solemn sierra
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Cart Life is somewhat of an unfinished game, the aesthetic is very odd, and it's not exactly a fun game to play. The game doesn't tell you what to do at all, and one of the characters you can play is this immigrant who doesn't speak the local language very well, only has a cat he's not allowed to have in his apartment to keep him company, and you need to find him a job, I believe the first thing you find is a job holding a paper stand, and you need to do all the menial actions to run the stand.

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It's a game with a very troubled development

silk wadi
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Guys
This server has made me the happiest horse on the planet โค

solemn sierra
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I like to think I had nothing to do with that!

proven pecan
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games that confuse me: noby noby boy, death stranding.

solemn sierra
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I think death stranding will either soar or drown

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And if it drowns, it's going to be fondly regarded 10-15 years after release.

proven pecan
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I want to play it but I don't know if I will ever truly understand

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what do you guys think it's about? xD

solemn sierra
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The trailers so far are pretty self-explanatory. You can figure out a lot of what's going on.

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We already know that Death Stranding takes place after some cataclysmic event. Whether the event is the timefall, the floating figures, or something else, that we're not sure about, my guess is going to be that some phenomenon occurs wherein some group tries to take advantage of it, likely related to the floating figures, it goes wrong very quickly, something along those lines, anti-war messages aren't uncommon in Kojima's games. Sam making deliveries of we don't know what will play into this, we do see him carrying what appears to be a body at some point. The concept of time will play into it as Sam's character has a HIDDEN DARK PAST (League of Legends(tm)), and his delivery jobs will drag him into whatever conflicts there are.

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I think the game will have permanence elements online. Kojima seems to imply strands as in co-op more than once. I think other players will be able to leave craters on your map, as when the shadow figures grab you into the other dimension, it leaves a crater behind.

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Another guess is that the characters in DS will have been alive for a very long time, they are stuck in a state of permanent limbo.

faint panther
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tardy anchor
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faint panther
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Sorry about that

solemn sierra
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HAHAHA

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I was wondering why I was getting "unread messages" notifications

tardy anchor
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fksgjskfsjgskf this is great

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philip k. ๐Ÿ†

solid minnow
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philip k. squirtheh

proven pecan
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I blame Cthlulu

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xD gotta be careful with fancy names

summer barn
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@velvet void

velvet void
#

Yo

summer barn
#

how do you feel about the aot manga

velvet void
#

I like it a lot, prob one of my favorites along with Berserk, Vinland, and Vagabond

#

The way Eren character has developed throughout was what really got me invested, especially with the new arc

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From typical shonen protag to anti-hero cool guy*

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Good stuff

summer barn
#

yeah exactly

velvet void
#

Don't want to get smitted by the bot lol

tropic garden
#

Morning!

velvet void
#

Ahoy hoy

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It's 6pm for me

modern sorrel
#

Midnight in germany^^

serene tulip
#

@velvet void I have the pillows stuck in my head now, I hope you're happy.

velvet void
#

Good

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Bran new love song is one of my favs

pastel phoenix
#

FuriKuri's not-so-secret plan revealed?

velvet void
#

What gave it away

serene tulip
#

Doesn't beat ride on shooting star

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for me, anyways

velvet void
#

I was going to list the other song I loved but it's pretty much the whole soundtrack

serene tulip
#

heh

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anyone watching SGDQ? no SGGames on it.

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but still cool

thorn marsh
#

Hey all. Stoked to be here

tropic garden
#

๐Ÿ‘‹ ๐Ÿ˜€

faint panther
#

๐Ÿ‘‹ helloo

velvet void
#

Ahoy hoy

velvet hawk
#

nice to see this place blew up while I was asleep, hello all new people

waxen sand
#

THIS ONE IS STOKED THAT THIS IS A THING

fleet sail
#

๐Ÿ‘‹ ๐Ÿ‘‹

abstract hedge
#

hello!!! :O

velvet void
#

Ahoy hoy

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It's pretty dead right now

tropic garden
#

Well, compared to earlier :P

abstract hedge
#

thats alright cx

velvet void
#

Peeps are just chillin

fleet sail
#

Calm before the storm of announcing this discord on social media :p

deep barn
#

Yeah

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If they do

solemn sierra
#

angery noises

abstract hedge
#

open the flood gatesss

velvet void
#

Pretty much, only found out they had a server from the email

#

Happy they did

solemn sierra
#

They said they'll keep it to the newsletter and mouth to ear or word to mouth or whatever you want to call it

modest hound
#

Email is pretty social to me

deep barn
#

Fair enough

solemn sierra
#

that thing when people whisper to your ear, giving you the Supergiant discord invite code while also giving you the flu

wanton brook
#

its a worthwhile trade

stoic sierra
#

Hello, hello!

wanton brook
#

ay

velvet void
#

Ahoy hoy

fleet sail
#

Hi hi!

abstract hedge
#

secrets of the universe include time travel, how to go to bed on time and the Supergiant Discord link

#

hemlo

velvet void
#

I've already mastered 2 of these

chilly briar
#

hey all :>

solemn sierra
#

Here we shall conspire to destroy the universe

#

mark my words

chilly briar
#

( อกยฐ อœส– อกยฐ)

finite moss
#

make an IRL version of the Commonwealth

velvet void
#

That's sounds like work

fleet sail
#

@velvet void how did you get time travel down? Because going to bed on time is purely impossible

finite moss
#

I'm sure nothing will go wrong.

velvet void
#

I don't do work

abstract hedge
#

xD

velvet void
#

I just close my eyes and I get sent futher in time

fleet sail
chilly briar
#

if it helps i'm usually in the future in contrast to everyone else

abstract hedge
#

sameee

chilly briar
#

11:28am here, 27th

velvet void
#

Now that's time traveling

abstract hedge
#

it's 9:28am on the 27th here D:

fleet sail
#

Whoa, do you guys have flying cars yet?

chilly briar
#

aussie huh

abstract hedge
#

yuhyuh

chilly briar
#

kiwi here

abstract hedge
#

new Zealand is colddd

deep barn
#

730 pm, 26th

chilly briar
#

hardly, it's a lovely 3 degrees today

tropic garden
#

I'm in Japan and it's Very Hot.

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8:30 am

chilly briar
#

I'm moving back to Japan soon

velvet void
#

I live in Florida

#

Tell me about heat

tropic garden
#

I'm from Alabama originally :')

abstract hedge
#

!!! I visited Japan last year

chilly briar
#

ๅฎๅกšๅธ‚ใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใŸ :3

abstract hedge
#

:O going again this December

solemn sierra
#

I can tell you all about the heat

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I have an oven

#

just wait

#

I'm setting it to 450F

velvet void
#

We had a heat index of 108 and I wanted to die

tropic garden
#

ใธใƒผใ€ใ„ใ„ใญ

velvet void
#

Cuz it's not only hot but also humid

fleet sail
#

Ugh gross @velvet void . Iโ€™m a bit further up the east coast and itโ€™s still not pleasant up here

velvet void
#

I work in construction too

tropic garden
#

็งใฏๅ’ŒๆญŒๅฑฑๅธ‚ใฎ่ฟ‘ใใซไฝใ‚“ใงใ„ใ‚‹

velvet void
#

They had to give us a safety meeting about heat stroke

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While making us stand in the blazing sun

fleet sail
#

Yeah no thanks. I avoid the burning sky orb at all costs

abstract hedge
#

xc I'm only a beginner in learning Japanese, please slow down

chilly briar
#

ใ‚ใใใ†ใ‚„ใญ

#

ใชใ‚“ใ‹

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ๆฅๅนดใฎ๏ผ‘ๆœˆใง็ฎ•้ขๅธ‚ใซๅผ•ใฃ่ถŠใ™ใคใ‚‚ใ‚Šใ‚ˆ

velvet void
#

All this weeb speak ron

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Disregard my user and prof pic

deep barn
#

Lines and curves

chilly briar
#

was about to say @velvet void

faint panther
#

Worms

chilly briar
#

lmao

abstract hedge
#

xD

velvet void
#

They both don't mean anything

chilly briar
#

@tropic garden the real struggle will be finding work ๐Ÿค”

abstract hedge
velvet void
tropic garden
#

Oh you'll be pretty close to me then!
Yeah....work's tough

stoic sierra
#

I thought moving to a metroplex I'd have an easier time finding work, but not really xD

tropic garden
#

They had that big quake recently too, of course all that will be fixed up by January

chilly briar
#

yeah friends of mine having a hard time

velvet void
#

Finding work, the endless struggle

chilly briar
#

Trying to find development work, will fall back to english teaching if I have to

abstract hedge
#

yuh it's expecially hard in Japan isn't it?

fleet sail
#

@chilly briar I imagine you could maybe find some remote stuff, or is the cost of living too high?

solemn sierra
#

Everywhere I look, people are having a hard time.

chilly briar
#

I don't have N2 so can be harder, should really sit that exam already

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@fleet sail maybe, I have a work visa already but might setup some contracts back in NZ to keep me going

tropic garden
#

I'm like a soft N3 which is all I need in daily life

fleet sail
#

Yeah that sounds like a safer bet, good luck! There are some decent remote freelancing options there too if youโ€™re stretched thin and have extra time

velvet void
#

I wish you all on your endeavors

chilly briar
#

ty all โค

#

@tropic garden come study when i'm there and be an N2 pro ๐Ÿ˜›

#

wakayama though uGH

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sakai is okay though

abstract hedge
#

what's this about? :o

velvet void
#

Wah

chilly briar
#

@abstract hedge which thing lol

abstract hedge
#

iunno, all of it cx

chilly briar
#

lol that doesn't help at all

velvet void
#

The N2 thing I guess

#

What you guys were just talking about?

#

I'm not sure either

chilly briar
#

oh, so N2 is the second highest level in the JLPT which is the Japanese Language Proficiency Test

velvet void
chilly briar
#

where're you from? states?

velvet void
#

Ye

#

parents from Honduras but born and raised here

chilly briar
#

woah, never heard of Honduras until today ๐Ÿค”

velvet void
#

You learn something new everyday

tropic garden
#

Wakayama's not that bad :')

#

The landscapes here are beautiful

#

And we have the Kumanokodo!

#

I got a stamp book a little while ago for major shrines along the way

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Two of them are in Kainan, where I live. I need to go back sometime to get the stamps

velvet void
#

Sounds hype

#

I'm planning on visiting the great land of Nippon with my sisters.

chilly briar
#

@tropic gardenใ€€ๅพกๆœฑๅฐๅธณ๏ผ

#

I filled two when I was there LOL

#

go to kyoto and get the skull seal!

tropic garden
#

Oh, it's not one of those, it's a like, novelty thing just for the Kumanokodo

chilly briar
#

ah I see

tropic garden
#

I should get an actual one for other temples tho

chilly briar
#

yeah definitely

#

the shiny boy

tropic garden
#

Niiice
I've only been to Kyoto once, and didn't see much while I was there...I need to go back but now it's hot ;-;

chilly briar
#

go to gion matsuri

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it's HELL and SO HOT with way too many people but it's legit a once in a life time experience

tropic garden
#

I am, actually!!

chilly briar
#

SO GOOD

tropic garden
#

I have a hotel booked nearby

#

I went to Awa Odori last year

chilly briar
#

if you go through my other photos I have some from gion matsuri on there

#

sickkk

tropic garden
#

Just a quick ferry ride across the bay

chilly briar
#

so good

#

I've been meaning to spend some more time in wakayama, haven't done much there, went to sakai a few times since friends live there

tropic garden
#

Ultimately it's a hard prefecture to get around without a car

#

We have trouble forming a community here because we're so spread out

#

I mean, Nachi is gorgeous, but it's four hours away and 5000 yen on the EXPRESS train!!

#

I'd love to go there again but it's just so expensive and so far.

#

Yuasa is a cute little town though.

chilly briar
#

I have a licence to drive in japan

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so no problem ๐Ÿ˜›

tropic garden
#

Yura-cho just to the south has the temple that first invented soy sauce

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So they claim

#

Yura is also close to Shirasaki cliffs, which are beautiful

#

You can see Shikoku from the observatory there

chilly briar
#

I drove to amanohashidate, tottori, ine, etc

tropic garden
#

Must've been nice orz

#

Nachi is still far but with a car at least it's comfortable

#

Koya-san is ofc the must see in Wakayama

primal mango
#

๐Ÿ‘‹

worn dome
#

oh they did add an off topic, yisss

solemn sierra
#

now you can talk about all your pokemon cards!

slow lark
#

speaking of cards

#

I really want to get into the Fire Emblem Cipher stuff

#

but it looks hella hella complicated

#

and almost excluviely in japanese xD

full mirage
#

@solemn sierra finally, the forum we deserve to discuss trading blue eyes white dragons

serene tulip
#

Pot of greed allows me to draw 2 cards

chilly briar
#

I put on my robe and wizard hat

short wyvern
#

Whoa hey @tropic garden

faint panther
#

iris ,, ?

#

that you.............?

slow lark
#

hi saba c:

faint panther
#

CRIN GWmiyanoWow

#

HI

slow lark
#

oh my gosh that emote is adorable

faint panther
#

i know right GWmiyanoWow

short wyvern
#

SABA

faint panther
#

IRIS

#

your jodi cosplay lives on

#

i wouldn t have recognised you without it

tropic garden
#

Heya!!

short wyvern
#

Yeah!

#

Hey guys

#

I missed you

faint panther
#

so so good to see you again ๐Ÿ’ž missed you too

short wyvern
#

So how did you guys become mods?

tropic garden
#

Good to see you too!!!

#

Asked

faint panther
#

yeah

#

basically

#

hey iris when the server is a bit more active you should post your cosplay/art in #fan-works

#

so more people will see them gilmanlove

short wyvern
#

I will!

#

I'm still happy that they saw this one pic, although I have many more now

faint panther
#

โ—

#

did you cosplay jodi again ? ? or were the rest of the pics delivered to you ?

short wyvern
#

No, i have more pictures ^^
The cosplay is kinda ruined, i have to make the horns and plate again if I want to coaplay her again
But I am working on another non-SGG cosplay right now

faint panther
#

can t wait to see GWmiyanoXDD

#

ah damn

#

that s gonna be a lot of work isn t it

#

those horns were pretty heavy too

#

oh who are you working on ? ๐Ÿ‘€

short wyvern
#

The drifter from Hyper Light Drifter

faint panther
#

QUALITY

#

I CAN T WAIT TO SEE IT

short wyvern
#

Obviously I'm kinda obsessed lol

slow lark
#

โค

short wyvern
#

Oh it's so good to talk to you...I'm so sorry I left without sayinf anything ;-;

slow lark
#

OH MY GOSH

#

YOU ARE DOING DRIFTER

wanton brook
#

!

#

OH

#

OH

#

HELLO

#

HYPERLIGHT DRIFTER

#

I LOV THAT

#

SO MUCH

slow lark
#

HLD IS LIKE

wanton brook
#

HE:P!

#

HELLO!

short wyvern
#

Yesss wanna see a WIP?

slow lark
#

MY FAVORITE FAME OF ALL TIME OH MY GAWD

wanton brook
#

HE:LP YES YES YES

slow lark
#

YES I DO

wanton brook
#

HGESYE

#

Jeg SJ

#

YES

faint panther
#

PWEASE NO SPAM

#

CALM ๐Ÿ–

wanton brook
#

(sorry! I got very excited)

faint panther
#

yea i noticed it s okie

slow lark
#

that is also a cosplay i would like to do someday

faint panther
#

also iris , it s fine , don t worry about it

#

im glad you re here now :)

short wyvern
#

I don't know why I can't send it here so ill try to upload it somewhere

faint panther
#

you can send it in #fan-works

short wyvern
#

But it's not sgg ;-;

faint panther
#

oh wait.. it s not sgg related fanwork

#

yeah

short wyvern
#

It's ok

faint panther
#

post it elsewhere and copy the link then paste it here

short wyvern
#

I'll just upload it somewhere and poat the link

#

Yeah haha

#

Just a minute

faint panther
#

same hat ,,

wanton brook
#

sometimes i forget that ppl dont have discord muted like me , ๐Ÿค” suddenly realizing that sending a lot of consecutive short messages must be really annoying actually

slow lark
#

jsut a little xD

wanton brook
faint panther
#

it s no problem but this server gets pretty flooded as is ,, so might wanna tone that down GWmiyanoHey

slow lark
#

I mean, I do it a lot, too, so I really have to try to tone it down myself xD

wanton brook
#

same hat, huh...?

short wyvern
#

There

faint panther
#

WAH

#

๐Ÿ˜

#

im enamoured

slow lark
#

OH MY GOSH

#

WANT

fierce sluice
#

looks sick

short wyvern
#

Aww thank you guys โค

wanton brook
#

ddude, this is awesome???

#

stares lovingly....

serene tulip
#

You gonna get a small quadrotor for the floaty robot thing?

#

cuz you need to

#

Sound like hell, but would look great in photos

short wyvern
#

I can do that
I haven't planned to but I definitly can

wanton brook
#

that would be a lot of effort but would look really cool

short wyvern
#

I mean I haven't even got to work on the glowing parts (im gonna make the helmet with LEDs, and also the sword and that gem thingy that he has) and I'm kinda afraid to do it

faint panther
#

that s gonna be tough GWnanamiSawakoWut

short wyvern
#

But I can do it :3

serene tulip
#

Oh man

#

I didn't know I wanted a hyper light drifter T-shirt

short wyvern
#

I need to finish painting the gun first

#

I want HLD anything honestly

wanton brook
#

dude nice....

#

i have the sweater my friend got for me, it really goes good with anything

short wyvern
#

It's really become my favourite game although SGG will always be my favourite game company, that I aspire to be like them

slow lark
#

I want to get the HLD t-shirt with the big bad on it

#

the purple/maroon one

wanton brook
#

man i cant agree with you more.... do u just ever agree with someone so much and it makes you so glad??

short wyvern
#

Yes! I love when it happens

slow lark
#

drift compatible

short wyvern
#

10/10

slow lark
#

y'all drift compatible

serene tulip
#

Hyper Light drift compatible, to make the pun more obvious

short wyvern
#

I'm probably gonna post progress on Twitter when I'll have it

slow lark
#

pfft

short wyvern
#

The gun is just laying on my desk unpainted

slow lark
#

What is ur twitter so i can do the follow thing

serene tulip
#

My brother and I have been playing Wizard of Legend recently, and all it does is making me want to play HLD, but I don't want to because it would probably give me more practice than him

short wyvern
#

@alt_drifter

wanton brook
#

sees the pacrim puns n cries a little bit...

#

u are my people.....

solemn sierra
#

Ah

short wyvern
#

@wanton brook i barely know you for 2 seconds and i already love you

wanton brook
#

SAME??? im so glad i signed up for emails and joined this server

short wyvern
#

SAME.

#

So um i gotta get ready for work, but luckily i can chat from there so...see you guys in about 40 mins lol

serene tulip
wanton brook
#

nICE!! same sweater!!!!

#

also ok transport safe!! Drive safe...? bus safe...? idk

slow lark
#

splliiiip man i did not need another thing to spend money on but wheLp

short wyvern
#

Haha it's just a 5 minute ride with my mom (i also work with her) but i gotta wear nornal clothes and eat and stuff
Thank you โค

serene tulip
#

Sucks its not really hoodie weather

short wyvern
#

It's basically never hoodie weather here...always too hot

faint panther
#

@slow lark watch your profanity

slow lark
#

thanks for the heads-up!

faint panther
#

no problem GWfroggerHyperXD

serene tulip
#

THUS SPAKETH THE MODS

tropic garden
#

Saba it's so ironic to see you enforcing profanity rules when ur username is booby

faint panther
#

i-im kinda relieved the chat isn t going like a flash

#

VEN NO ๐Ÿ–

#

it s a name of a character in a childrensโ€™ show...

wanton brook
#

,

tropic garden
#

it's also a bird species

faint panther
#

it s a talking hand with eyes

wanton brook
#

i misread spaketh as spanketh like, when u get a slap on the wrist from the teacher, and it was infinitely funnier that way imo

tropic garden
#

gjfkdhdjfkg

serene tulip
#

THUS SPANKETH THE MODS

tropic garden
#

Please do not spank

wanton brook
#

AHShHSFHFJ AAAA

tropic garden
#

We suffer enough

serene tulip
#

I mean, you'd be the ones doing it

#

sooooo

tropic garden
#

You're all banne

faint panther
#

i wouldn t hurt a fly GWmiyanoWow

rotund loom
#

i have no doubt in my mind that ven Would spank given ample reason

tropic garden
#

Rose

#

Please

rotund loom
#

Ven

slow lark
#

wat no why me?

tropic garden
#

I am TRYING to be reasonable

slow lark
#

I fixed my bad langauge and did not involve myself in the spankcourse

#

:c

rotund loom
#

crin ur great and we're all thrilled ur here

tropic garden
#

You're fine crin :')

faint panther
#

seconded

slow lark
#

hahaha thank

#

hopefully i can be around more, since last week of work woot!

tropic garden
#

๐Ÿ‘

faint panther
#

i hope so too

slow lark
#

though actually im gonna miss my coworkers they're gr8

#

and also grad student pay is less than my current paycheck

#

by lots :c

wanton brook
#

oof

faint panther
#

i don t get that paycheck logic

#

sigh

tropic garden
#

Grad students get pushed around terribly

#

Our grad students tried to unionize, with some success

#

But aaaanyways

serene tulip
#

That would be interesting

solemn sierra
#

Paycheck logic?

slow lark
#

I mean i think some of it is

#

at least int he program i'll be doing for my phd

faint panther
#

i didn t know how to word that so i just made it short for โ€people with more education getting paid lessโ€

slow lark
#

is that they... cover tuition

tropic garden
#

Oh well that is quite nice

slow lark
#

i wouldnt be going if they didnt tbqh

tropic garden
#

So it's just a living expenses paycheck

slow lark
#

^this

#

its still gonna be a squeeze tho,

#

its lke, half my current paycheck

tropic garden
#

:/

faint panther
#

ouch

chilly briar
#

feelsbadman

slow lark
#

It willbe worth it

short wyvern
#

Oh no

slow lark
#

because those three letters may very well double/triple my paycheck AFTER

#

but like... that will be after HOPEFULLY ONLY FIVE years

tropic garden
#

Yah

short wyvern
#

Hmm i don't think it's worth it

tropic garden
#

I dont wanna do a phd....anthro phd is like. 7-10 years

slow lark
#

i would say in most fields its not worth it

tropic garden
#

I already have my MA, i dont need anything more

short wyvern
#

That's why I'm gonna make my own game <:

slow lark
#

in chemistry it makes a huge difference tho. And if i ever want to to govt. laboratory work (which is A Yes) i ... need those three letters

wanton brook
#

weba @short wyvern

solemn sierra
#

Ah? I'm going back to uni. Community college ain't cutting it

slow lark
#

community college is good for knocking out prereqs tho

solemn sierra
#

Community college dev isn't cutting it. Only jobs I can find are abusive agile/jira shtick with high turnovers or crazy startups that don't work. Changing fields too

slow lark
#

ugh thats not good

#

but best of luck at going back to uni

short wyvern
#

Hmm I've seen too many people who go this path and I wouldn't want to do this, it's very tiring

solemn sierra
#

Which path? Going back?

short wyvern
#

These jobs i mean

solemn sierra
#

It's either this or starting my own crazy startup, but sadly I ain't a millionaire like all the people I worked for

rocky matrix
#

oh whoa serverโ€™s grown

#

i might be too afraid to come here oops

drowsy lark
#

this is a lot more people than I expected to find here this soon

short wyvern
#

Oh no

#

Don't be afraid

solemn sierra
#

If you mean the jobs, tons of initiative to push people into tech. As far as I'm concerned, it's a giant crater of misery. The computers can code themselves.

short wyvern
#

We're good people

rocky matrix
#

i was here 1-2 days ago and now thereโ€™s almost 1000 members?!

opaque quail
#

We announced it in our newsletter today, Blast!

#

So it got to a much bigger audience! Though I'd personally encourage you to stick around, even if it's just through lurking. โค

rocky matrix
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yeah i saw that! but i was already here by... somewhat illegal means hehe

short wyvern
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Basically I think that you can either go the path that a lot of people take or take your own, and the latter is very difficult but rewarding
In every field not just tech

rocky matrix
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thank you omg <33 iโ€™ll definitely lurk but i donโ€™t know if i have it in me to participate

short wyvern
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Hey its ok ^^

opaque quail
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I totally get that! Big numbers in a server can be intimidating. But you are always welcome, even if it's just to pop in & add a reaction to things.

serene tulip
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Time for ETERNAL SEPTEMBER

rocky matrix
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can do hehe

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youโ€™re so welcoming

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sgg people are sO NiCe

short wyvern
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That's so true

solemn sierra
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Just GET ANGRY

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MAKE NOISE

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actually no, don't do either of those things

opaque quail
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Aw thank you! I'm very familiar with the intimidating Discord feel.

solemn sierra
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that's mine, no stealy

serene tulip
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT

wanton brook
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when u yell real loud to express your feelings, THATS AMORE!!!

faint panther
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I DO NOT RECOMMEND YELLING

chilly briar
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surprised there's not voip channels tbh

serene tulip
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caps lock is cruise control for cool

faint panther
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that s because VCโ€™s are hard to control
very

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we had one but SGG staff got it removed

wanton brook
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oof

solemn sierra
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@short wyvern IDK, tech has become very difficult. It reminds me of the whole Hearthstone Arena tracker thing. Two guys wanted people to work on their lightforge thing, and so many people tripped on top of each other to offer to make their app for free, that they pretty much went on Twitter to state that "people would work for free", of course that comment was met with a lot of disgust from the general community at large.

serene tulip
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So was this like, an unofficial fan server that ended up getting absorbed into SGG?

solemn sierra
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Everyone has an app for every little thing and it's become insane.

opaque quail
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Nope! Fan server is still up, running, and active! Though the member list does crossover.

short wyvern
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Oh i didn't know that happened

faint panther
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this one is fresh and 100% official

short wyvern
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I used to use deck tracker

solemn sierra
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It's not deck tracker, it's some other thing for arena

serene tulip
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i just spent a couple minutes trying to think of an app that was too ridiculous but I couldn't

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everything has a market

short wyvern
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You make me wanna go back hearthstone lol

serene tulip
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Its not any better

solemn sierra
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I've seen a company that makes an app for renting private space and they want to "be like airbnb", that's their business plan.

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Too bad there's just almost no demand for this thing

tropic garden
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Hey hey, a little late but glad you feel welcome starling!

serene tulip
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Like, my first thought was, "Are there apps to help me brush my teeth" and yeah, there probably are

solemn sierra
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It's like if I made an incredibly niche video game and my business plan was "be like supergiant games". Pls. No.

serene tulip
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probably an IOT toothbrush too

solemn sierra
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That's no plan

short wyvern
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Anyway about sgg being nice, i couldn't agree more
When i needed help with realizing how Jodi works for my cosplay I sent them an email with tons of queations and Michael did everything he could to help
After I finished it and sent them the pic in my profile, Michael reacted well so I was really happy

slow lark
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THERE IS IN FACT AN APP TO HELP YOU BRUSH YOUR TEETH

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@serene tulip it pairs with one of the Oral-B electric toothbrushes

serene tulip
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lol

slow lark
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i know this, because this is the ad on my microsoft solitaire suite that crashes the program 60% of the time after it plays

serene tulip
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My only direct interaction with SGG is that darren once favorited a tweet of mine >.>

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and this, of course

short wyvern
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I love Darren haha

slow lark
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it is my last week of work and i am doing reactor-scale chemistry

solemn sierra
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And when it comes to gaming, people will throw themselves at your feet to do stuff for free. That was a thing for me in college, it's like nobody had any hobbies but video games. I go to conventions and that's all I see, a lot of people who only video games. They breathe video games, they eat video games probably, and they sleep video games. Everyone wants to be video games for some reason, because that's all they do with themselves.

slow lark
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i am playing a lot of solitaire

solemn sierra
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Very strange conundrum

short wyvern
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Basically me @solemn sierra

slow lark
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I love vidya games but i dont know if i could

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do it 4 job

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that seems like a way to get myself to hate what i love

solemn sierra
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Mayhaps that may sound a bit hypocritical coming from someone with a video game avatar in a discord server about video games.

short wyvern
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M a y h a p s

solemn sierra
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I don't even think that's a word

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It's one now

short wyvern
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That's perfect

serene tulip
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I mean, most gamemaking isn't really analogous to gaming.

solemn sierra
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Game making has nothing to do with gaming, and there are tons of people who want to be idea guys.

slow lark
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i mean. same hat @solemn sierra

serene tulip
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Most writers still probably read, because enjoying a thing and making it are very seperate

chilly briar
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idk, game programming seems fun to me, although my exposure to it is only a couple things:

  • 3D computation paper at my university, ray tracing, opengl 2 & 4, shader programming etc
  • little bit of unity
  • little bit of unreal
    Can't decide which to explore more, fairly familiar with c++ but prefer c# as a language ๐Ÿค”
tropic garden
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I feel like I would actually enjoy the "putting stuff together" part of game design but the barrier to entry feels absurdly high and it's not something I want to devote my life and all my free time to, + bad workplace conditions and bad pay

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Sooo I just write about games instead

solemn sierra
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yea, there are tons of people on itch io or whatever that website's name is

chilly briar
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I have way more interest in developing and playing things I make than playing things others make these days, since one helps me learn more and one doesn't. I tend to only play stuff these days in social settings, otherwise it's study or dev time

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or working

solemn sierra
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It's like the people who think they'll be the next pewdiepie or something. Chances are, 10000 other people thought the same thing

tropic garden
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I feel like playing things others have made could be extremely educational

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It's not like writers only read their own writing, or painters study their own paintings

solemn sierra
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But I don't know, I throw out a video ranting about stuff and it gets 10k views for some reason. To the point where I have an existential crisis because I can't believe 10k people would view even a minute of this.

chilly briar
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It is, but also I've spent a lot of time playing things in my life and feel like i'm familiar enough with the things i'm looking for to find them if I need them

serene tulip
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I think its time for me to head to bed

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Night all

chilly briar
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like design decisions, engineering choices, etc

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I'll probably keep tinkering with unity projects after I finish my current react-native project lol (which is super mundane but hey helps me learn the framework)

solemn sierra
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good night oceloctopus

slow lark
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night!

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I think I'd like to make a game or a fangame some day? but like

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as a total personal project with no intention of marketing it

short wyvern
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I worked with my ex on a game so i know a bit of unity (i was the artist and he was the programmer, i didnt HAVE to know it but i do) and c# but i really wanna make my own game so i gotta learn programming basics at least.
I think maybe game maker will be easier than unity for 2d games, i dont wanna make 3d
@chilly briar

solemn sierra
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Knowing myself, I'd probably make something controversial just for the sake of it being controversial. Or maybe dabble in the occult or something.

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I'll collect people's reactions

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and put it all in the box

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I'll do like your aunt probably does with shoes

chilly briar
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@short wyvern consider exploring the new version of game maker studio too, that's what my university does for it's production degree (game focussed etc, but i'm just a filthy computer science & japanese major lmao)

solemn sierra
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but it won't be shoes!

short wyvern
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You also need to know how to be critical of the games you play, not just love or hate them endlessly @tropic garden

tropic garden
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wha

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why did i get atted :')

faint panther
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i love pyre trna endlessly

chilly briar
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@solemn sierra shock humour etc really doesn't do it for me tbh

solemn sierra
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I thought making a video to rant about Pyre for a while, and also another video complaining about someone's video complaining about xenoblade chronicles 2 but the video is 50 minutes and a reply would take 2 hours

short wyvern
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Because i atted you

tropic garden
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Yes I see that, I'm wondering what that was a response to ๐Ÿ˜‚

short wyvern
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To your last reply lol

solemn sierra
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@chilly briar No, it wouldn't be shock humor, just something to get under people's skins ever so slightly.

short wyvern
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I want to rent about Pyre: it's too good

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End

worn dome
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no one told me I can't read

faint panther
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SORRY

tropic garden
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I like what Pyre was doing but it didn't affect me like Transistor or even Bastion

faint panther
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but yeah that sounds like a lot of fun
i d go hunting and killing things

solemn sierra
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Nah, I've got a lot of bad things to say about it. The problem is, the way I come out about things is sandpapery and I have this problem where half my audience doesn't seem to understand whether something I say is sarcasm or not.

faint panther
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um i mean shooting cans GWovoRaphiXD

solemn sierra
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It gets weird

worn dome
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@tropic garden really? It's been getting to me so far, haven't beaten it yet though

solemn sierra
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But when you have to explain the sarcasm or a joke, it's not a joke anymore

tropic garden
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I know, its really emotional for a lot of people but it just never really reached me

worn dome
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@faint panther are you in a place where you can't? It's super fun to try I think. I wouldn't pay to OWN any really, too expensive, but just to pay for a shooting outing is worth it!

faint panther
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yeah !!! im in the middle of the city

worn dome
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@tropic garden bastion made me legitimately cry, transistor REALLY got to me emotionally, but I don't think I cried, just maybe a tear or so

faint panther
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i don t think i want to own guns either โŒ

worn dome
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@faint panther I spend WAY too much on my computer and phones to afford that haha

solemn sierra
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What? Guns? Where?

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I'm in Canada

faint panther
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hey bro same ,, but hunting sounds real fun

solemn sierra
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where are the guns?

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I'm getting my hunting rifle

faint panther
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i have one in my pocket as we speak

tropic garden
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Transistor made me cry a little, Bastion didn't do much for me because the combat distracted me from the story up until the very end

faint panther
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it is an water gun

worn dome
solemn sierra
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We're going to take out the guns with my hunting rifle

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then we're going to take them home

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and skin them

short wyvern
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I still think Bastion is their best game

silver maple
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only thru the water gun... do you learn true marksmanship...

faint panther
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it s where you start and end

short wyvern
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saba do you remember

tropic garden
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I personally think Transistor is the best if only bc Bastion lacks some polish

worn dome
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hahaha

tropic garden
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I need to replay Bastion tho

chilly briar
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bastion is so ๐Ÿ‘Œ

short wyvern
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do you remember when I photoshopped red to tariq

silver maple
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I preferred bastions gameplay, but trnaโ€™s aesthetic

faint panther
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YEAH
WHERE I END AND WHERE SHE BEGINS

short wyvern
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like where he ends and she begins

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YES

faint panther
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SAME HAT

tropic garden
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Pyre is ambitious but less cohesive overall

worn dome
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bastion and transistor are different in an odd way for me, I find bastion to be really easy by default, whereas transistor is very difficult

solemn sierra
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Yea, I'd definitely harp on Pyre's cohesion

faint panther
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DO YOU WANT ME TO... DIG IT... IRIS, ,,

short wyvern
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The first time I played Transistor I didn't even understand the ending

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YES SABA

faint panther
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JUST A MOMENT IRIS

short wyvern
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Dig everything shameful that I did from that server

faint panther
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YESโ€™M

solemn sierra
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Criticism as a creator is very odd. If 5 people come up to you personally and tell you how much they like what you make, you kind of appreciate it, but when thousands of people online tell you what you make is great, it kind of feels like floating in a sea of nothing

tropic garden
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I missed huge plot points in Bastion bc the hectic pace of combat made it hard for me to listen to rucks ;;;

solemn sierra
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It's like eating way too much cake that it ends up not tasting anything

short wyvern
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really? weird, it didnt happen to me

solemn sierra
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don't do that

short wyvern
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wow that's so weird Ven because I felt the opposite
Bastion caught my attention so much and it was really immersive for me, Transistor was even more immersive but somehow I didn't really get a lot of points
I'm definitly gonna replay Transistor and Pyre soon

tropic garden
#

A lot of that depends on personal game history and skill I'd imagine

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I used to suck at real time combat, it took all my attention just to not die. It stressed me out a lot

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Transistor gave me time to breathe that Bastion never afforded

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I hated that about Bioshock too

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80 unlistened to audio diaries and no safe place to listen to them

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Because splicers attack you constantly and regen wherever you go

short wyvern
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hmm i have super great reflexes so even if i was stressed, i could manage to play effectively

faint panther
short wyvern
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hahaha yes! thats it!

faint panther
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iconic

solemn sierra
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why

faint panther
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you should say , โ€thank youโ€ ๐Ÿ˜Œ

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masterpiece

solemn sierra
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well

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I have y

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and h

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now I just need tank ou

short wyvern
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you can have my tank

solemn sierra
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ok now we need an ou

short wyvern
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i usually need it for you know, war and stuff

solemn sierra
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anyone's seen an ou?

short wyvern
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but you can have it

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only french people

faint panther
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๐Ÿ…พ ๐Ÿ‡บ here ya go

solemn sierra
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nice

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there you go

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thank you

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GOTTEM

faint panther
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now iris s masterpiece is properly appreciated squirtyay

short wyvern
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I remember that I had the idea and immediatly went to photoshop like I GOTTA DO THIS SO FAST

faint panther
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and the lyrics fit GWfroggerHyperXD that just made it even better

neat echo
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popped in here to see what off-topic topics were being discussed/what had continued from #supergiant-games channel. and I just want to say, I love and appreciate you guys โค

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I was originally going to do something much different with my night. I just got home from work and was going to burrito on the couch/play a mobile game. But instead I checked my email, opened the latest blast from Supergiant, downloaded the wallpapers, joined this Discord. Now here I am, listening to the Transistor soundtrack for the billionth time

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(I write a lot. So I'll go back to reading/lurking)

ocean gull
#

I think I see some similar pattern here

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It's very nice to be here although it wasn't my original plan

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To get suddenly immersed in the Supergiant community

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It feels nice to... I don't know, to share all this in some sense squirtyay

neat echo
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I completely agree.

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I feel a warmth and homeyness here

buoyant sapphire
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aaaa I still have to get all the soundtracks

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despite Spotify existing, I want to throw money at these guys

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ALL OF IT

neat echo
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I'm only missing the Pyre vinyl. I have the limited Bastion vinyl set and the one for Transistor.

ocean gull
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Same here!

neat echo
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I love having physical copies of the music I really care about

ocean gull
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(I still have to find something to listen to them though x))

buoyant sapphire
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I'm not even sure what vinyl is, nor would I be sure how to use it

neat echo
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wait @ocean gull , you and I are 2 of 200 for the Bastion one? ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ocean gull
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... .-. It seems so, was the vinyl only 200 copies limited edition? Now that you mention it I remember having jumped on the offer...

neat echo
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yeah, it was announced and quickly went. they were red vinyls and came with one piece of sheet music signed by the man himself, Darren Korb โค

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I got the first page of Mother, I'm Here

short wyvern
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wow

ocean gull
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Ooooh, no, I think I only have no-limited edition

neat echo
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ah

ocean gull
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Sorry ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

buoyant sapphire
#

okay, so since I'm here and you guys probably actually know what I'm talking about

ocean gull
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That's soooo great * _ *

neat echo
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still amazing though.

buoyant sapphire
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imagine Darren Korb and Gareth Coker working together to score one game

ocean gull
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(The first page of Mother I'm Here)

neat echo
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(I know, right? I almost cried when I saw that's the one I got....or maybe I did cry. Who knows)

buoyant sapphire
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Sadly I don't like the song too much

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MUCH prefer Build That Wall

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mother, I'm here gives me depression

faint panther
#

watch yo profanity

ionic viper
#

beat me to it saba

faint panther
#

teamwork

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๐Ÿ’ช

buoyant sapphire
#

well, off to play pyre

neat echo
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enjoy

ocean gull
#

I'm becoming sleeeeepy

neat echo
#

same

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especially because Red is singing to me right now

ocean gull
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I think it's this last hour of being awake, when my brain starts to go numb, and becomes just plainly happy to find people, meet people, discover people, who chat, create, invent, write, draw, craft, share about these marvelous worlds along with their very makers. Sometimes I'm just amazed by humanity.

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I love you, humans who have gathered here, wherever you are gilmanlove

short wyvern
#

i love you fellow human

ocean gull
#

โ™ฅ

neat echo
#

What they said, I love you fellow humans

tropic garden
#

We are all love SGG server

ocean gull
#

We all become one, as they say

faint panther
#

SGG created a really peaceful fandom

short wyvern
#

Oh we all, we all become one...

ocean gull
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Yup

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I'm really amazed

ionic viper
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welp i gotta go get ready for work,,

tropic garden
#

Hey just a note when saba and voyage were typing i read it as "booby voyage" but with the accent of "bon voyage"

ocean gull
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:p

short wyvern
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"several people are typing..."

tropic garden
#

gjfjdhdjg

faint panther
#

OH-

ocean gull
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Well, off to sleep I go too

short wyvern
#

have a good one!

faint panther
#

good night , sleep well !

short wyvern
#

how did we used to say...?

ocean gull
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See you, marvelous community ๐Ÿ˜„

short wyvern
#

when someone went to sleep

faint panther
#

good nightwings...?

short wyvern
#

YES

faint panther
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sneebi-

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OH