pyre

[topaz onyx]

Just his mannerism in general

I'm about to free my 2nd exile...

[icy ocean]

Yay?

[topaz onyx]

:(

I hate saying goodbye

Idk who to send

Halp T.T

Exiles who return to the Commonwealth shall not aid you in Rites anymore.

[icy ocean]

Who shall it be?

[topaz onyx]

Goodbye Hedwyn

[upbeat sage]

[topaz onyx]

Can't separate true love for long

You know

I'm not sad or anything

[icy ocean]

Noooo, whyy?

[topaz onyx]

What do you mean? Hedwyn has someone waiting on the otherside

And he and Jodi can lead the rebellion on the otherside, too, considering how close they are...

[icy ocean]

What about Rukey? He also has someone waiting on the other side

That's a good point. Hedwyn and Jodariel together will make the rebellion more succesful

[upbeat sage]

Rukey is the mvp in my current (I should get back to at some point) TN playthrough

[topaz onyx]

Is TN the difficulty level?

Many moons pass...

[upbeat sage]

TN is True Nightwing difficulty

[topaz onyx]

Oops Manley, didn't see your silly flying coach there, mb that I rammed into you headlong

What about Rukey? He also has someone waiting on the other side
Oh hey just now I'm getting there xD

[sick iris]

just wondering if there's a pdf version of the book of rites out there? i really want to read through the entire thing~

[midnight hawk]

there's a website, unfortunately i don't remember what it was called though, sorry

i did a little googling but it seems like there was but it's mysteriously gone missing

[sick iris]

ah, okay. thanks though!

[midnight hawk]

np!

[young folio]

@sick iris i do have this video that you can pause and read from, but unfortunately i didnt inspect the pages https://youtu.be/5dSrAvPkFwc

[topaz onyx]

So I'm having really bad framerates in the game

Is this a common issue? I don't think the game is difficult to run?

[main shale]

It happened for me

I switched to watching wanderbots play it

Very jerky sportsball

[topaz onyx]

Hmm interesting. I kinda braved through most of it. But now the game is getting more difficult and I it's hard to play when stutters happen.

I'll probably switch to another computer...

[main shale]

When did it get bad for you? I remember making it through the wyrms at least

[topaz onyx]

Since the very beginning xD

[main shale]

:(

[topaz onyx]

I'm lucky that I have both Nvidia and AMD systems to try

Let's see if it does any better with my GTX 660M xD

[main shale]

Please return with your findings

It was that which made me so scared to try Hades. I didn't want to install the game only to find it was unplayable. Thank goodness it was alright :)

[topaz onyx]

Yeah I will. I'm slightly tilted since my loss was definitely due to framerate issue

But we will try again :D

[main shale]

I know that frustration...

Good luck

[vestal bluff]

Pyre doesn’t really depend on a GPU so much as a good CPU

Check the system requirements on Steam, there isn’t a GPU listed there

[topaz onyx]

Ok that makes a lot of sense.

[heady cosmos]

Can you imagine Pyre 2, which focuses on the commonwealth side of making the plan, and the proper execution of it

that would be so amazing

could also be a whole different genre

like some management thing

Imagine that you can import your Pyre save, and then you will see that side of the story with each character you chose, joining your roster on the Commonwealth

[topaz onyx]

Good bye Rukey T.T

[main shale]

Original trio sayonara

Question for you: when you said goodbye to Rukey, was he all like, ||"psyche! Gonna go get drunk"|| or did that just happen to me because I didn't complete something for him

[heavy hill]

I don't think their dialogue changes? I'm not sure

[vestal bluff]

Nah, that's just Rukey being Rukey

[trail folio]

Someone posted recently on Reddit asking about possible Table Top RPG adaptations of Pyre. I'd like to dive into that conversation! But first, has this been discussed before/are there links or info I should be aware of?

I believe I have a method for modeling the Rites, which is obviously the challenging part. Mostly I wonder about # of players and GM (or not)

[torn bolt]

i think there's been a lot of talk, but i haven't seen too much in the way of actual concrete games you can playtest

i think @loud dagger was working on something at some point?

[trail folio]

I figured it had to have been at least tossed around before

IMO the key is to model the Rites using a mostly skill based system, not just rolling dice and hoping for luck

Some searching reveals it is a Blades hack!!!

amazing!

VERY interested in this! I am currently working on a Blades Hack which has been successfully kickstarted

[mild falcon]

In the original trailers for pyre, there were a lot of survival mechanics, where you had to gather food and supplies to make it to the rite on time. These were cut because they clashed with the rest of the mechanics, but they might be more fun and interesting in a ttrpg setting

[trail folio]

Definitely! I think the travel portion of the game will be fun and easy to model with existing TTRPG mechanics and could be expanded on

Particularly since you probly have 3 players controlling individual characters instead of a single player experience

[unborn copper]

READERS - PYRE RITE NITE IS IN 15 MINUTES (Pyre multiplayer) - check it out at https://twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join us in the Rite Club server! (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe)

[proper hazel]

Does volfred the gay

[young folio]

[unborn copper]

RITE NITE IS LIVE

[woeful depot]

I believe I have a method for modeling the Rites, which is obviously the challenging part. Mostly I wonder about # of players and GM (or not)
@trail folio i'm up for discussing this in depth

[forest girder]

GM is obviously the ArchJustice xd

[trail folio]

I agree that’s good framing/perspective for them. @woeful depot lemme make some coffee then I’d love to hear your thoughts

I think one of the cool things about a TTRPG version would be 3 players instead of 1, controlling their own characters

You could maybe have an expanded roster, but players tend to focus on one PC

[woeful depot]

I was thinking implementing something similar to a mana system that replenishes each turn(if its more of a turn based play) and you can choose to either pass or cast etcc and each expends some amount of mana

[trail folio]

Tokens to act as action points makes sense

You could then modify each classes use of tokens to model the heavy demons, fast humans etc

[woeful depot]

Yeah that sounds super cool

[trail folio]

I think along with that the game space itself could utilize simple zone movement

That way zones can be blocked, contested, flown over etc

There is a game called "Core Ball" which is the closest thing to a table top sports game (with a ball) that I can find. It is also more focused on skill based play as opposed to rolling dice and hoping for the best

Unfortunately their website is down but here's a link: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/256837/coreball-zero-gravity-sport

Its very sci-fi themed, played in an asteroid field and probly has a lot of mechanics (like hacking) that we dont need

but IMO it could be stripped down and repurposed to function like Rites

it uses action tokens of various types, as you suggested

Im not sure how 3 players VS a GM might work, as Core Ball assumes player vs player competitive play

I guess you could design a Pyre TTRPG where each player manages their own caravan and roster, traveling to Rites and competing against each other.. but thats a very different experience

[trail folio]

---

This is just one approach. I have not seen @loud dagger FitD Hack yet, but I am very familiar with the system they are using. Forged in the Dark (FitD) is the Blades in the Dark system, which among other things features "player facing rolls". This means that the GM rarely rolls for the NPCs, the failed or mixed rolls made by the players generate NPC actions.

This solves the "who controls the other team?" issue, and also allows us to roll dice without feeling stupid. Like "I want to pass the ball to my team mate!" rolls a 2 "ahhh crap.."

Because in this case, rolling a failure doesnt mean you screwed up, it means the other team has used a special move on you to intercept the ball or some such thing

This system also already has nice gameplay loop and downtime actions which will nicely model the travel and exploration gameplay between Rites

[wary chasm]

I just finished my first playthrough

I cried.

[timid silo]

Welcome to the club!

[torn bolt]

i cried like a baby at the end

i always cry when i play bastion too

[wary chasm]

Bastion didn't move me as much

[midnight hawk]

bastion is the one that moved me most of all

like ||zulf signing mother im here?|| absolutely slayed me

[wide river]

okay, but (bastion ost spoilers) ||build that wall transitioning into mother i'm here transitioning into setting sail coming home||

🥺

[midnight hawk]

my heart can't take it

[wide river]

wait, this isn't the bastion channel

[midnight hawk]

oh whoops

so pyre. great cast of characters, love that found family they have going on

[wide river]

i'm a sucker for any and all found family stories tbh

[midnight hawk]

saaaame

[icy ocean]

Why you post Bastion spoilers here

[forest girder]

Lol mods modding mods

xd

[topaz onyx]

Demons with their massive aura keep destroying my team. What can I do?

[lavish vine]

cast on them and be fast

[small aspen]

Run away because they slo

[topaz onyx]

They dash like no tomorrow though

Maybe I should tone down my titan stars

[small aspen]

They only dash in a line and they have long cooldown on it

[topaz onyx]

What if they dash straight to my goal and stay there?

[small aspen]

Cast at them?

Small auras build range faster than big ones iirc

[topaz onyx]

Ah ok

I guess I'll have to try harder

Sometimes I feel like I'm being "camped" at spawn.

[small aspen]

That sounds unfun

[icy ocean]

Use haprs. They are OP

[topaz onyx]

Will do

[jagged pebble]

definitely
especially if they have the aura bust ability

[torn bolt]

harps and savages definitely op

[lime mural]

Please, it's all about the Imps and Curs.

[topaz onyx]

Hmm I seem to get conflicting answers here

Tldr everything OP

You good character good

[small aspen]

i think saps and crones are pretty neat

[torn bolt]

i dislike playing with saps and curs for opposite reasons

too slow vs too fast

imps Are very good

[vestal bluff]

Imps, Curs, Savages are the best

Getting good with Snap Cast makes Savages a strong counter to Demons

Imps have a auto-self-destruct ability called Last Laugh that makes them take the Demon down with them if they lunge into you

[torn bolt]

'curs are the best' you may be a little biased

last laugh is great though

[icy ocean]

And thus the Scribes have spoken!

[wary chasm]

The only ones I didn't like playing with were saps. Way too slow, and not offensive enough, and I couldn't get my hand on how to defend correctly with them

[lime mural]

I made the mistake of never learning how to play with Volfred and then by the time I made it to the very last Rite he was one of the only three characters I had left.

[small aspen]

what i like to do is camp the orb with them and use the extra aura from the sprout to bump everyone until they're wiped out

the shield reflect is also good fun

[nimble cloud]

Curs are arguably the best imo

They're fast and they can going the other while slowing down

Titan stars don't matter with Rukey

[jagged pebble]

demons are a force to be reckoned with if you know what you're doing with them

[wary chasm]

I know who Bertrude reminds me

Granny Weatherwax from Pratchett

a Fundamentally-Good-And-Powerful-But-Don't-Mess-With-Me witch

[muted pebble]

Demons are absolute units no matter what

[jagged pebble]

giving them a lvl 20 star splinter while they have the throwing banishment ability
they are unstopable

[muted pebble]

Preach

[wary chasm]

damn, there's no steam profile backgrounds or stickers for Pyre, only for Bastion or Transistor 😦

[young folio]

There are! these are all from steam

The backgrounds are gorgeous too, I had the heralds on my profile for a while

[wary chasm]

where? Can't find them

I'm talking about the (new?) steam points shop

[young folio]

You could get them beforehand too by crafting pyre’s badges and on the steam marketplace by searching pyre

[crisp drift]

Man, I'd love if Supergiant would actually make the Rites an online game I could play against others...would be spending hours daily playing it 😄

[torn bolt]

there's a discord server where people play using steam remote play together

that seems to work all right

i think they play sundays, too, so you're in luck

[silver crypt]

i've replayed pyre again yesterday

and my god was it still as amazing as when i played it first time

[cloud oar]

https://discord.gg/u5zSEA

That's the pyre pvp server

[vestal bluff]

Stephen’s got it! Each Sunday we actually do spend hours playing Pyre against each other over in Rite Club. You can watch the streams of past Rite Nites here (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkH5nFfw5JggtCvfnWh49Zg) too, to get an idea of what it’s like
@crisp drift

[unborn copper]

^Pyre Community Rite Nite (multiplayer Pyre) starts in 1 hour!
Join the watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/u5zSEA same link that Aqua provided above) to get involved!

[vestal bluff]

Comin' back to this, here's the a video of last week's Nite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwHs0pDQ1sM

And we also break the game
https://clips.twitch.tv/DoubtfulBraveNostrilDancingBaby

[unborn copper]

^LIVE

[muted pebble]

I want to be in a new time zone T^T

I keep missing these

[icy ocean]

You can watch the replays if you'd like

[muted pebble]

Its not the same live

[topaz onyx]

who won the Civil War?

[jagged pebble]

volfred

[topaz onyx]

I was busy for the later part of the stream

yay

I backed the right team ❤️

[jagged pebble]

i mean
we had failure so

that helps alot

[topaz onyx]

failure as in the player or??

[muted pebble]

No as in Failuer

I assume

[jagged pebble]

i can't spell ye

[muted pebble]

Lol

[topaz onyx]

lol

ok

[vestal bluff]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[muted pebble]

Gg

[livid fog]

At some point the narrator gets mad at the reader right? I forgot what ticked him off

[muted pebble]

Not the Reader, I think he gets mad at the nightwings as a whole because of the way they abuse the Rites

[livid fog]

Oh right

What did they do?

Was this the one when the true NWs showed up

[jagged pebble]

yea
he just gets pissed as you because he hates you and he can only talk to the reader

[livid fog]

what happened exactly? can someone remind me please hahaha my brother started a playthrough

I forgot that part

[grim tusk]

I believe it’s because ||volfred joins your team or something, which he considers cheating|| if I remember right

@livid fog

[storm fjord]

||I know there's a bit near the end where he screams at you because of the Plan||

[grim tusk]

Yeah that’s true

Probably a mix of the two

[robust canyon]

ITS ON SALE

IM BUYING IT

[covert ingot]

Is there a reason this game only runs well at 1280x720?

Can't get above 40fps otherwise

[muted pebble]

I usually ran it at max at it was fine

Not sure on the exact frames though

[covert ingot]

It also never holds on to the resolution I set it at.

Every time I run it, it defaults back to 3840x2160

[muted pebble]

Oof

That's a resolution?

[covert ingot]

Yep

[summer idol]

is it possible to play Pyre in 21:9?

[limpid path]

Ngl the narrator’s constant jeering at me because of Volfred actually made me doubt his intentions for the longest time

Especially when you don’t know his whole story

[pure merlin]

saaame

[vernal harbor]

both Volfred and Oralech are kind of framed as potentially dangerous but turned out to be harmless (Volfred more than harmless, he's actually pushing a good change)

though Archjustice's constant verbal abuse against the Reader's team didn't make us trust him any better

[timid silo]

Bertrude on the other hand,

[lime mural]

I had a little trouble trusting Volfred at first.

[mild falcon]

i didnt trust volfred because he was immediately like "ok im finally back to be your savior, get rid of this loser now"

[lime mural]

Okay, obviously AJ is bad news for how much it attacks you, but it goes nuts when it finds out about Volfred, and I don't think all the lore about the Commonwealth had been revealed at that point.

Oh, he does say that, doesn't he?

[mild falcon]

well, thats how i remember it

[timid silo]

That's the kind of guy who managed to fumble his first impression with Ti'zo of all creatures (source: he literally bit him), that's just how it is 🤷‍♀️

[torn bolt]

he literally did say that and it did make me dislike him for the rest of time lmao

[timid silo]

Stephen 🤝 early days Ti'zo

[gritty tartan]

https://youtu.be/5ebIizhEgxg

Shammy finally talked about a supergiant game, somewhere around 21:00

[vernal harbor]

nice, owl avatar

well, Volfred did manage to sound untrustworthy, but many politicians act like that too and also create messes but are somehow still in power and even loved so

like, the Archjustice and his fellows (until the revolution)

[timid silo]

I'd say the tension between his absolutely stellar ideals and the way he positions himself wrt them (and ssssometimes the means he's ready to employ toward that end) is a core facet of his character and watering it down would make him less engaging...

[midnight hawk]

i didn't really view it as volfred being like "oh im the savior get lost" but more as he didn't understand why the reader would want to hang around when they couldn't be liberated so like, why would they want to stay and help?

tbh i feel like people are too hard on volfred

[vernal harbor]

where could the Reader even go? they were dying at the beginning of the game

[jagged pebble]

well I usually don't trust athourity figures so as soon as he was like welp now im here you don't have to do anything else
i didn't like him

[vernal harbor]

I guess Pyre taught us that stereotyping goes both ways

those of us who distrusted Volfred truly did wrong him based on shallow reasons

[muted pebble]

I never mistrusted Volfred, I just felt that he seemed too all knowing which probably made me feel a bit uneasy

[vernal harbor]

good for you I guess

I delayed freeing him until near the end

then I freed Oralech

so I definitely owe Volfred an apology

[tribal holly]

How would you guys describe Pyre as a game in a single sentence?

[trail folio]

An Oregon Trail-esque game in a fantasy world, traveling between "Rites" which are a 3v3 sport-like competition vying for the right to return from exile.

That probly fails to capture the deep character development

[stray jolt]

to quote @lime mural

"The criminally literate are forced to play basketball for their lives."

[native shard]

i do like the classic "NBA Purgatory"

[tribal holly]

I like that one also, lmao.

[native shard]

but its not very clear or informative, so is only fit for humor

[stray jolt]

is it any more informative than it needs to be

"A dystopian, half fantasy VN, half 3v3 sportsball game that explores religion, government, and the true meaning of freedom through a branching character-centric story."

fixed

[small aspen]

Visual novel meets magical self-immolation sportsball

[long holly]

Darren called it "Wizard basketball with reading" once

[opal timber]

it's a game where your character's superpower is literacy

[vestal bluff]

Meanwhile, Greg is ever the understater and just calls it “a party-based RPG”

[tribal holly]

I've been having a blast with the game. The story and gameplay are both amazing, far better than what I expected going in.

[trail folio]

Same

[tribal holly]

I'm surprised that some of the steam reviews complain about the gameplay. I love the gameplay behind it, the story is a great bonus as well lol.
It makes me wonder what Supergiant could accomplish next after Hades.

[trail folio]

Waiting for Hades to come to Mac, have not played it but it looks cool

They always blow my mind

I'll buy it, whatever the next project is

[forest girder]

Imagine if Pyre had voice packs as Starcraft or DOTA 2, for Example

Could get hilarious pretty soon

[lime mural]

In my defense that was for the prompt "Describe a Supergiant game badly."

[gloomy turtle]

Ah, you people were talking about your initial impressions on characters?
I must admit I had a bit of a funny situation with best boy Hedwyn. Him being so overly nice and friendly towards you from the get go made me end up distrusting him. Couldn't help but feel he had some ulterior motive with trying to endear himself to me so much. I am sorry for doubting you, lad

[small aspen]

Same

He also seemed like he was intentionally withholding info

But it turns out it's just him being whimsy

[vernal harbor]

or not wanting to scare the newcomer too much

[dark phoenix]

I didn‘t find Hedwyn ‚too‘ nice or something, it was just a friendly face. Especially in contrast with Jodariel lol

[muted pebble]

The moment I saw Jodarial, I got such immense Goat Mom Vibes

[wary chasm]

I always thought Volfred was not to be trusted... Apparently I was wrong <_<

[native shard]

what was the reasoning for the Reader being unable to participate in the Rites & leave? i forget

[stray jolt]

they’re crippled i believe

[vestal bluff]

It’s not just that, though it’s part of it. The Reader’s role is to guide the team during the Rites, and since none of the others can read, that means you have to do it - but only the ones in the field get Enlightenment (XP) which is what determines who goes free

[timid silo]

Yeah but generally, readers can take turns and participate, gain enlightenment and so ob

[haughty saffron]

It's been ages ago, but I can still remember that I had a choice between freeing three different characters after the last rite, one of which being Oralech, the second a team member (in my case, Pamitha), and the third the reader himself. I didn't choose the third option, so I don't know what would happen. Or am I misremembering something?

[timid silo]

The player character specifically has a choice of three backgrounds, none of which is fit for competitive sports...

Volfred himself as former Reader of the Nightwings has some field experience

[plush cove]

This game makes me kinda wish that Supergiantgames make a full-fledged RPG one day

[timid silo]

the forever mood... 🤞

[torn bolt]

supergiant trpg when

[spice pumice]

i hope they announce their next project by the end of the year after hades full release

[timid silo]

As someone who doesn't play Hades, I sure hope so but it seems reeeal soon for an announcement. Not getting my hopes up :(

[upbeat sage]

I personally wouldn't expect an announcement for at least a year after Hades leaves early access

[vestal bluff]

Yeah, when were Pyre and Transistor announced, relative to the times of Transistor’s and Bastion’s release?

[timid silo]

Hades was announced more than a year after Pyre's release...

[vestal bluff]

They probably won’t even know themselves for a fair amount of time thence

The concept for Transistor took a long time to materialize iirc

[thick carbon]

yeah, also worth noting that the team seems to work on things as they come more so, it’s unlikely they have anything more than ideas right now I’d imagine

[upbeat sage]

Supergiants main focus atm is also v1.0 of Hades,

[forest girder]

They still need to prepare the fight in the Pit

[tribal holly]

[Ending Spoiler] || The ending song for Pyre is...amazing. I hope Hades has something like that. ||

[dark pewter]

yep

[dusky cradle]

Remember to always.

ALWAYS.

Do right by Sandra.

Failing to do so should be a federal offense.

[ripe herald]

I can't fathom how anyone would choose to leave her behind

[jagged pebble]

the only reason to do that is to see the dialogue option and that’s it

[small aspen]

not worth at all

[eternal vessel]

I sadly had || the Reader || liberated at the end but I like to imagine that || he took Sandra's crystal ball with him || because it makes me feel less horrible.

[small aspen]

If the post-credits(?) cutscene is there then it would be the case

I've not liberated the reader yet so i can't confirm

(also spoilers are ok in this chat )

[timid silo]

Yeah the Sandra/no Sandra ending is not tied to the Downside/Liberated Reader ending!

[sour totem]

hey i buy hades but i dont get pyre

why?

[lime mural]

The Steam gift was only during a short period following Steam launch.

[eternal vessel]

Oh it's not? I must've missed that then @timid silo .

[dark pewter]

what?

XD

[echo haven]

I lost my first liberation rite, the game was sort of aloof saying that it is fine and things will continue, but I kinda don't trust it, have I gotten locked into a bad end? I

[small aspen]

no such thing

keep going

[echo haven]

Cool will do, thanks!

[long holly]

Losing versus winning is a major theme in this game

[gloomy turtle]

It is about rolling with these punches and seeing how they end up changing your own playthrough, whether in small or bigger ways. Don't worry about getting a bad end and instead focus on experiencing the game as it happens to you 👀

[small aspen]

👆 it's the journey that matters

There's a proper end no matter what happens as you go

[unborn copper]

Pyre Community Rite Nite (multiplayer Pyre) starts in 15 minutes!
Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to get involved!

Occasionally, a civil war breaks out https://clips.twitch.tv/SaltyAntsyCourgetteArsonNoSexy

[unborn copper]

^Live now!

[gloomy turtle]

Ah, I'd love to play a rite or two against someone some day. Alas this internet is already bad enough

[eternal vessel]

Does it have online? Last I checked it was local only?

[small aspen]

They use the steam shared play thingie

Which lets you pretend it's online multiplayer

[eternal vessel]

ooooh, every time i use that it's super laggy :C

i wish pyre had even peer2peer online

[gloomy turtle]

I personally didn't know the specifics of how they got to play the versus mode online, I just heard here and there that it was a thing some people did

It would have been neat to have that option natively, but at least there's this workaround for it

[small aspen]

iirc making online play would've taken too much work for them

[gloomy turtle]

I don't know myself how setting up an online mode even goes, but I can understand that. If something had to be cut better that than something more significant

My dreams of playing a three harpy team and just spamming sleight of wing will never be realized

[vestal bluff]

It's through Steam Remote Play

As long as one person owns a copy of Pyre, and they both have Steam accounts (and good enough internet speed) then you can play against eachother

You can live your dreams don't worry

[heavy hill]

if only pyre was on switch, it would be the perfect local game lol

[jagged pebble]

it really would

[tender loom]

can anyone in SGG reveal how is the pyre's wagon scale to the characters in game? tbh im very confused as to how it works

I assume its very big since it can fit jodariel but idk

[ripe herald]

i always assumed it was one of those things that looked small from the outside but are bigger on the inside

by means of some magicy stuff

[tender loom]

idk

cause i really wnana design something based of it

and truth be told

ive never grasp the scale of how a wagon would be

since too small sounds like too packy for a character i am making

hes like a nomad antique dealer

[small aspen]

we don't really get to see the wagon next to a character much, and there might be some artistic license taken with perspective and size and all

[upbeat sage]

I imagine it being similar to howl's moving castle in a way

[tender loom]

yea

ive seen a lot of fantasy wagon im like

[small aspen]

we do only really see the common room so we can't say much about what other rooms are there and what size

[tender loom]

"this is why it stays fantasy"

not because of the design

but because the sheer scale of it

doesnt work in the "less developed" look of fantasy world

like are you gonna commit tree genocide since woods are typically thick and narrow

how are you gonna traverse in a supposed mobile vehicle with it

and sure you can handwave some stuffs like the forest will open a path for you

but sometimes i want something a lil grounded

@small aspen the common room feels so tight and im thinking how do they fit people in there

do they just sit in the room?

generally feels only capable to fill like at best 3 people

[small aspen]

or stand at the walls maybe

it would fit like 3 comfortably

they might do other stuff outside after parking the wagon

[tender loom]

do note that we have like 7 characters in this wagon

and maybe an exception to bird mom since she could fly

[small aspen]

you could pack that many in but it would be a bit uncomfortable

seems like they don't usually all gather in there

[tender loom]

but hey jodariel is basically equal to 2 people due to her sheer size

yeah but they still have to traverse places though especially in seas where nowhere can it be parked

unless some characters are on foot

but we dont see that

[small aspen]

we also don't see how big the sleeping quarters are

[tender loom]

^

idk, i really need to research more into this caravan thing

i think they just camp outside to sleep though

the problem is that how would they be sitting unless its like, sardine can style whenever the wagon is moving

[mild falcon]

if the wagon was like... large rv sized... it might be able to fit 7 people depending on sleeping arrangement

honestly i wish pyre went into the details of drama between characters that bunk together

get to lern which of your pyre favs snore

[timid silo]

ideal

[haughty saffron]

slaps roof of Blackwagon This bad boy can fit so many Exiles in it

[dark pewter]

but

how do they sleep in itt?

[craggy ruin]

in the noclip documentary its shown how the blackwagon is, or was.
https://imgur.com/WatTObx
https://imgur.com/3kpxRMu

[haughty saffron]

Watermelon wheels???

[ripe herald]

how else would you motivate the drive imps

[dusky cradle]

Okay so-

Mourning Song is still arguably one of the better songs in Pyre yet hella underrated.

[jagged pebble]

absolutely

i also thought it was about orlech for some reason

[dusky cradle]

"lost and lonesome bride" Oralech is secretly just a teddybear

[midnight hawk]

i still think it's about oralech

[dusky cradle]

Goodness me I love Pyre. Like, geez. If one day SGG will start making sequals, I hope they do Pyre.

I don't care if it's a prequal, or a sequal-

I just want more Pyre Goodness.

[upbeat sage]

it can be about both Hedwyn and Oralech Babs :3

[tender loom]

Damn that thing is so tall

im surprised it hasnt topple over for how unstable its base is

also the scale of the upstairs damn, you gotta crawl to reach there

judging by the guy whos reading there

unless that human size is jodariel

[mild falcon]

Fgfjfk turns out jodariel is 5'5 and everyone else is just short

[jagged pebble]

WTF

[mild falcon]

No but imagine

[quick thorn]

What a blast of a game. On my 20+ years of gaming, this got to be one of the best ones. Shout-out to @mystic notch for a masterpiece of a soundtrack. Because of you I bought all the other Supergiant games. What a graceful composition. I'm speechless.

[raven root]

Man. The pyrehearts suck ass

[muted pebble]

Lmao why?

[mild falcon]

they got tiny auras and dont use their cast very well

(on normal difficulties, at least)

[raven root]

The other teams do something cool or flashy when they get low but they just let you win

[lime mural]

What do you expect after The Sir Gilman abandons their cowardly countenances for the justice and bravery that is the Nightwings. Noxalas!

(I don't know if I found out on the first playthrough or not that Gilman volunteered for exile after chasing after Deluge, who actually did desert the battlefield, but he was my top priority for freedom after that revelation)

[torn bolt]

for me it was like

sir gilman: i demand exile.
me: .............this is a parking ticket

[timid silo]

I love the noble knight but I got the impression that he wasn't faring too bad downside so he stayed there with my reader and Bigger Snek among other things. I'm just sad for his budding friendship with Rukey which I totally missed on my first playthrough

[coral turret]

The pyrehearts are trying their best plus they lost their MVP

They’re just worms for Gds sake

I think gilman just feels mega guilty

So I always try to send him up with rukey

But I feel bad Bc he had a cute friendship with bertrude and she def wants to stay down

[vestal bluff]

Gilman's ending is pretty similar whether he goes up or not. What matters to him more is probably who he's with, rather than where he is

[coral turret]

True!

I like to think him rukey and pamitha had a cute little friendship goin on since rukey and her had a thing, rukey and gilman got a thing, and there’s that ending art of gilman and pamitha drinking together

Oh and that interaction where they talk about wyrms being harp prey and also heights lol

I love friends who seemingly have nothing in common

[jagged pebble]

i tired to keep Gilman and Jodi together because of their friendship

[coral turret]

yes! I love theirs too it’s understated but cute. He’s like a little, loud, over eager dog and she’s like a giant long suffering alley cat

[midnight hawk]

bertrude & pam friendship is 👌

honestly there are so many good friendships in this game i love it

[jagged pebble]

yea

[fluid flax]

Of course there were good friendships! The more good friendships, the more painful it is to have to split them up, and the harder it is to avoid!

[coral turret]

Just all around a good found family

I played one evil play through where I lost every game and picked the worst options I could (telling jodi I was afraid of her, not reconciling pam and her sis, making rukey loose against barker and then freeing him)

And yes it and I sucked for it

But keeping all the exiles together was very nice

Bittersweet

They made a community in the underside together

[unborn copper]

Pyre Community Rite Nite (multiplayer Pyre) starts in 20 minutes!
Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to get involved!

[unborn copper]

^Live now!

[stray jolt]

obligatory knights of the jam repost: https://soundcloud.com/almightyjanitor/knights-of-the-jam

[unborn copper]

^How had I not heard that before

[forest girder]

It's also a logical combination

[storm fjord]

tbh i feel like someone could mashup any of the triumvirate themes with Space Jam and make it work

[torn bolt]

i'd love to see the other themes x space jam 👀

path to space jam when?

[plush goblet]

I was in the wrong chat oop

🤣

[jagged pebble]

Into the Jam
https://www.reddit.com/r/SupergiantGames/comments/fhkepg/wizard_basketball/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

[dusky cradle]

Your daily reminder that

Sandra is precious.

That is all, have a good day.

[ripe herald]

don't need to remind me

[lucid hemlock]

https://youtu.be/dg3CfwPVWCU This is really cool

[mortal hemlock]

anyone have some Sahrian -> English translations?

I remember having an image file with some

but I lost it

[stray jolt]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/456894214840516611/701556305927733370

[mortal hemlock]

nice thank

[small aspen]

they're all in the pinned messages i think

[wild grail]

hhhhLife doesn't care if I win or lose the games' ends make me feel like pulsate and nervewrack

[wild grail]

So uh, having only fought the True Nightwings once, if I am to fight them again are they going to be as spine-kicking as last time?

[sharp rivet]

Yep!

[vestal bluff]

The True Nightwings do get stronger the next time you face them, as all triumvirates do

But typically, you’ll have improved more than they have in the time between those matches

[lime mural]

I lost to them with Yslach invoked and then was a coward in the final Liberation Rite and turned Yslach off.

[wild grail]

h

[boreal sluice]

Holy crap. I cry every time I have to set a Nightwing free

[sage river]

Never to return 😔

[boreal sluice]

Yeah...

It's a bittersweet departure

[sage river]

I think I felt the most freeing Hedwyn

Cause with him it's a little different

He feels a lot more purpose being part of the group and being a comforting presence to everyone

And separating him from his friends is real sad

[boreal sluice]

He was the first that I liberated

I felt that he had to make a difference in the Commonwealth

[sage river]

Well yeah they all do

But his promise to find a way to free his friends from the other side really goes to show how much he needs them

[boreal sluice]

Yep

Second Was Jodi, she's my favorite character

[sage river]

My wife

[boreal sluice]

Then Rukey, because I really wanted him to see his family

[boreal sluice]

Oh boy, just finished it

and now I'm really goddamn sad

[vestal bluff]

It's a really well-put-together ending

Who'd you liberate?

[wild grail]

Finished it too

Beat it on Heightened, heeh! First playthrough I’ll say!

seriously the fights get close

Thankfully I actually gave Volfred that Pyre second wind mastery

Well, both of the masteries. Up to +40

I really loved Barker’s end, though

[vestal bluff]

Did Barker stay down or go free for you?

He's got excellent ending(s), yeah

[wild grail]

He stayed

Course I’m gonna not satisfy him with beating me - although I will say that off the record, he wiped the floor with me the first time before he urged me my first, and only, mind you, save-scum.

[boreal sluice]

Who'd you liberate?
@vestal bluff I left behind Volfred, Ti'zo and Betrude

I didn't lose a single Liberation Rite

hehehe

[vestal bluff]

Nice

[wild grail]

In my own Liberation Rites: I got crushed by the Withdrawn, narrowly got sweeped by The Essence,

however, I got the original trio, Bae, and myself out.

[wild grail]

What would Barker do when he would've gotten out?

[mild falcon]

Aaaanything he wants lmaooo

Going dawg wild

[wild grail]

No I mean like canonically if you let the Dissidents win what happens

[craggy ruin]

iirc, barker goes to visit rukey's mother to collect the debt, but she offers him some tea and cookies, because she believes he is rukey's friend and he forgives the debt.

[wild grail]

Aw

...wait, wouldn’t that change if you beat Barker before the next Liberation Rite?

[timid silo]

It does! The endings consider the status of each character's variables. Idk what Barker does topside though, I'm too enamoured with his Downside ending, haha

[raven root]

Should I set Tamitha free?

[sage river]

If you free both pamitha and tamitha the commonwealth will make peace with the harps

[raven root]

Huh

[mild falcon]

Well, that's not ALL that happens

[sage river]

Indeed

[timid silo]

Is that really the prerequisite for that...?

[sage river]

I mean that's how it worked out on my run

[raven root]

But, like, from your perspective, is pamitha’s guilt misplaced

[timid silo]

I just checked, it's two different prerequisites. As far as I'm concerned, Tam stays down

Pamitha's guilt is entirely believable and also entirely misplaced yeah

[raven root]

Because tamitha is just kind of a bad person

[timid silo]

Yeah! And the sisters' relationship is super complex and painful no matter how you slice it. But for me, none of that means that Tam gets to pick a spot topside

[torn bolt]

i mean, doesn't the sahrian union make peace with the harps regardless

tam is too dangerous to pam to let them end up on the same side

i really feel for them both, but i'm not going to let pamitha end up permanently injured

[timid silo]

Yeah, with more or less bloodshed depending on better or worse Plan outcome!

[wild grail]

I wonder if "setting free" The Withdrawn's leader would've affected the outcome of The Plan...other than denying one of your own for that rite.

[mild falcon]

Udmildhe figures out she cant really end the world from the outside and finds some other stuff to do

[stiff patio]

Hey, so, I'm getting a pretty terrible bug with my Itch.io version of Pyre? Wondering if anyone else has seen this. The game's been working just fine for at least a month, but is now... breaking down in every Rite. I'm just playing versus mode, but about a minute into it, the video just stops. The audio keeps going, and actually keeps responding as if everything's normal. But visually, it's frozen. Every now and then, it just stops responding at all, too. Plus some inexplicable lag that shouldn't (and didn't) come up with my computer...

[long holly]

i seriously doubt this is itch's fault

Pyre is surprisingly CPU-intensive, FWIW

have you made any modifications to the game on purpose in the meanwhile? i certainly know how to make a mod that'll slow the game to a grinding halt, heh

[wild grail]

If anyone's able to make or find a full zodiac of Pyre's stars along with it's calendar I'd be happy with that

[small aspen]

you mean this?https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/456894214840516611/702708790822174750

[timid silo]

What do you mean by that? Mapping the correspondence between the olden stars and our zodiac? That's been done already, I can fetch a link!

yeah that

[wild grail]

Cool!

[hybrid marlin]

Can we talk about how The Withdrawn's theme had a trap beat

And how hard it slaps

[wet pulsar]

yes we can!

it’s a real good banger for all those swampy folks.

[muted pebble]

YES

I'd always go for them cause its satisfying to smack them down to their beat

[livid fog]

Does anyone have sheet music for the Pyre soundtrack?

[unborn copper]

Pyre Community Rite Nite (multiplayer Pyre) starts in 1 hour!
Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to get involved!

[unborn copper]

^Live now!

[stoic junco]

Okay.

I request assistance.

Does anyone have any (or, preferably, all) of the names of the triumvirates' members?

Not the Nightwings, of course, but all the others.

I am pretty sure there are at least some names for the Beyonders, and others are free game, but I do not possess any time to do this task in time, nor do I have methods to achieve this quickly.

If you have any information - feel free to ping me.

[mild falcon]

I think they're on one of the wikis?

[stoic junco]

I do so love the fact that we have TWO Wikis.

Both of which are somewhat underdeveloped.

[mild falcon]

The harp in the chastity is xaxiana

That's all I got from memory

[stoic junco]

And unfortunately, neither contain much information.

The harp in the chastity is xaxiana
I read The Flower in the Flame, so I do remember those ones.

... Actually, my request is mostly in regards to the Beyonders.

[mild falcon]

https://pyre.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters

[stoic junco]

I am slowly running a chat RPG in the world of Pyre with us cast as members of The Awakened, the hidden triumvirate that was meant to fix the errors of the Rites if any were to come.

We try to stick to canon in many a place ||(hence we could use a tenth wagon, since it was used by Oralech)||.

And to that effect, our setting is set some number of years before Pyre (I cannot recall the exact time).

So most of the triumvirates can have different members.

Yet the Beyonders are rather specific, and I would love to use some canon names for the one-time opponents in the spreadsheet.

https://pyre.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Characters
Thank you. This might prove sufficient.

[mild falcon]

Sounds like a cool setting

[stoic junco]

It is.

Unfortunately, we are a tight bunch (4 people), and some answers are taking a long time.

We began somewhere around two years ago, and only recently have we begun the actual first training Rite.

Finally can test out the system.

It basically boils down to the dice roll against an opponent's stat, akin to FATE Core system.

I tried doing the grid system, but quickly dismissed it: it was too clunky.

Also, the link contains no names for the Beyonders.

I had to revamp stats to make it somewhat workable and upgradeable, but it probably requires testing.

[midnight hawk]

you could always make up names. the sandra trials have all 3 members' names iirc

[stoic junco]

I think you can only get the other Beholder's names via Practice Rites.

And it's not as if I would use these names for long.

I probably won't use them in the campaign ever again.

They will take their glorious position in a spreadsheet and sit there.

I just want to go an extra mile.

... Okay, I cannot upload screenshots here. Noted for posterity.

[mild falcon]

You can link to screenshots here

[vestal bluff]

Upload it somewhere else and paste the link here

[vestal bluff]

Or just look in the code like I do. I'll just list them

Sandra - Nomad
Feryn - Cur
Zaphestoph - Demon
Lishan - Savage
To'mi - Imp
Lady Luvian - Wyrm
Palmis - Sap
Vorfrit - Sap

All the additional random Beyonders you see in the Scribe Trials don't have names though

[livid fog]

im working on an 8-bit cover of in the flame hehe posted it in #fan-works

[stoic junco]

Scribe Trials won't be necessary, since the Awakened do not possess the Beyonders Crystal.

Thank you for the names.

[vestal bluff]

TIL
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reader_(academic_rank)

You can literally be a Reader in Australia - the place where people were exiled for their crimes

[small aspen]

Nice

[native shard]

everyone in pyre secretly has an aussie accent

[stoic junco]

Noice

Anyhoo, this is my conversion spreadsheet that I used for making sense of stats in the aforementioned chat RPG.

https://imgur.com/a/ZJ2LKdZ

Unfortunately, it's in Russian, since the RPG is Russian, but it is nothing that can't be easily fixed.

Also, "bog-crone" translation is my personal (because the official one is awful).

And Oralech was not considered in calculations, because his Presence and Hope (all taken from Versus mode, btw) were too extreme to fit neatly.

https://imgur.com/a/Xaiv1dh

[wild grail]

I didn't actually see it when I did my first run, but from what I heard, Oralech had 1 Hope

A weird and cool canon footnote

[timid silo]

iirc he got nerfed to 1 Hope for multiplayer, which is a cool and poignant way to go about nerfing the end boss

[torn bolt]

he definitely had 1 hope in the campaign, too

iirc

[mild falcon]

he gets 1 hope in the last fight but i think he has more hope in the fight from before

[timid silo]

oh that's probably it - I remember reading about it, checking in-game during my replay and not seeing a 1 there, so it's probably different between his two rites...

[forest girder]

There is no way the Downside wasn't based in Australia. Right?

Also, the Commonwealth, like What the British were

[upbeat sage]

some of the downside might have been based on Australia, but I think the inspiration would have come from numerous sources

[stoic junco]

... Wait. It IS Australia!

I never even noticed!

I think the inspiration would have come from numerous sources
That is only natural.

[timid silo]

The choice of "Commonwealth" has to be a direct historical inspiration; I wonder about the subsequent choice of "Union"!

[wild grail]

I mean there is a giant skeleton of a scorpion and the snakes are kind of huge so

[small aspen]

the outback is also very orange, quite like the ridge of gol

the one thing wrong with this comparison that i can think of is mt alodiel

australia is a pancake of a country

[haughty saffron]

Isn't the highest point over 2000 meters above sea level, though?

[small aspen]

that's not a lot as far as mountains go

[haughty saffron]

True, when compared to other continents, but Mt Kosciuszko is at least snow capped.

[small aspen]

it's not even snow capped all year round tho

[sullen arrow]

The US was also used in the same way until they declared independance.

[small aspen]

although that's still infinitely more snow than basically all the rest of aus

[sullen arrow]

So that could be the analogue as well. Or a mix of them all.

[small aspen]

the concept of exiling criminals is pretty old

[sullen arrow]

Pretty much.

[upbeat sage]

yeah unless you're in the mountains or suuper far south, you're not gonna see snow in aus (unless you're incredibly lucky in a regional area where it not uncommon for temps to hit -10C)

[stoic junco]

Does anyone has an assortment of Ron's noises from inside the game? Not critical, and I probably can find them myself, but I am almost certain that someone has all of them lying in a file already.

[flat talon]

I did find this the other day https://youtu.be/jPn0xrdDst8

[jagged pebble]

7 MINUTES

[flat talon]

Truly the Scribes work 🙏🏽

[forest girder]

Bruh

Looking at IMDB, Falcon Ron was the Actor's only work. Obviously because he realized he had peaked after this masterpiece and thought more acting would be senseless

[jagged pebble]

isn't it darren that voices him?

[forest girder]

It says Ben Costa in IMDB

As in the Wiki

Darren voices Rukey, Moon 🅱️oi and Udmildhe

[jagged pebble]

really??

i always thought it was darren

[forest girder]

Sorry for shattering your world

[jagged pebble]

its good bro

[forest girder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351166263772446722/735668674719121450/unknown.png

Yep

I cannot believe Oralech and Sir Deluge are voiced by the same guy

[torn bolt]

and that that person is greg

[jagged pebble]

such a mad lad

[stoic junco]

Ooh. A video.

Unfortunately, this only contains Ron's voicelines, not his trading noises.

[dusky cradle]

Remember friends.

Sandra is a blessing.

Always save Sandra.

[eternal vessel]

I dont trust anyone who leaves her behind.

[small aspen]

same

[stoic junco]

They are harsh ones.

[forest girder]

Shame you can save her but not Save her

[stoic junco]

So... Anyone has any Ron noises?

[forest girder]

Sadly, the Geneva Convention prohibits their distribution because they are a known torture tool.

1 hour of Ron and you'll beg to be put into the orb

[sage river]

Ron’s just vibin don’t be mean

[stoic junco]

Not of Ron.

He is tempered by the music.

I wish to make 1 hour of Ron babbling along the music.

I CAN technically record him babble in-game for like 20 minutes and then parse it, but it is not as reliable.

[forest girder]

I mean to be fair

Inside the Orb you've got Sandra
Outside the Orb you've got Ron

Seems a easy choice for me. 🟢

[forest girder]

Orbmance>Bromance

[heavy hill]

yeah Volfred can dream of a Commonwealth where people are truly free. But can he dream of a world where Dirty Deal Redux has an official release

[craggy ruin]

I used to have a link with all the voice lines. Ron had like 300 babbling lines, it also had an unreleased shopkeeper Rite music.

[haughty saffron]

The angry shopkeeper trope went unused? Ron having his own rite team would have been a RIOT

[native shard]

it would have been all rite

[stoic junco]

The angry shopkeeper trope went unused? Ron having his own rite team would have been a RIOT
But would make zero sense as to why he would duke it out in the sacred fields.

[timid silo]

yeah I'm glad they took it out...? Maybe there could've been a satisfying in-universe reason, like he joins a triumvirate mid-game somehow and maybe kind of takes over? But if he'd had his own secret triumvirate eeeeeeeeeeeeh I think it would take away a lot from Oralech's situation

which is more important than a comic relief rite. Khaylmer's isle straddles the line already imho

[craggy ruin]

found the audio files, Ron has 455 lines

[coral turret]

Every single one deserved

[livid fog]

anyone interested in making sheet music for in the flame?

been working on transcribing it

[stoic junco]

found the audio files, Ron has 455 lines
Does it have the trading noises?

And can you please get them for me if they are there?

[forest girder]

Weird Trading Noises

[lavish vine]

Ron Muter Gang

[sage river]

No! Ron is a good boy :(

[dusky cradle]

Mute the Ron

Save the Sandra.

[wispy shale]

sandra

[sage river]

Ron's just a stinky lil dude who likes sellin u things

[vestal bluff]

Muting Ron is the small brain play

The game was designed with Ron sounds in mind

[lavish vine]

it's possible to mute sound effects
but they also have an option to mute Ron specifically
I think that says something

I'm fairly certain he was designed to discourage spending excessive time in the shop

[forest girder]

Yeah.... Most likely that

[spark moon]

Do people really find him that annoying?

[jagged pebble]

ron grows on you
like a fungus

[vestal bluff]

I reckon these are all just heathens

Ron's great

[coral turret]

I love that slug

SOUG

SLUG

[upbeat sage]

You might wanna edit that first line @coral turret

[coral turret]

😶 forgot I could do that lmao

[sly condor]

I may have found a pretty big bug lol. I maxed out all my characters near the end, but now I can't salute anymore with any of them to activate the abilities I unlocked, like with bae to make her teleport to the orb or with tizo to transform him.

Never mind, I lied lol. Forgot you have to stand still to salute kek

[real laurel]

In honor of Pyre's anniversary, add an emoji for the bestest Supergiant character, Sandra, please, and thank you. 💗

[stuck gust]

most memorable part of Pyre for me was the soundtrack

lendels theme, sandras theme, the main menu, manleys theme

such catchy tunes

[wild grail]

[torn bolt]

path to glory still slaps extremely

[modern viper]

Pyre genuinely still holds a place as one of my favourite gaming experiences of all time. The lore, characters, music, the core gameplay loop and the way it connected with the story. Everything was just perfect for me. The personalised end credits song was the moment that solidified it as one of my favourite games ever tbh.

[covert sleet]

pyre is possibly the best game ever it taught me the meaning of friendship and made my muscles grow x435234636 in size

[slate lily]

aaaaaa i loved pyre so much!! i was so incredibly bad at the actual core gameplay but everything surrounding it made me want to keep playing

[lime mural]

I know someone had an Orb emote at one point.

[plush goblet]

Pyre looks fun

And very beautiful

👀 Puts on wishlist

[opal timber]

happy birthday pyre

one of the best games i have ever had the pleasure of playing

[stoic junco]

Wait, it is Pyre annversary?

Hoo boy! Time to bring some joy to my friend!

[wild grail]

Game teaches you well the value of teamwork. And the cost of refusing to find a middle ground.

[stoic junco]

Strands may break alone.

[vestal bluff]

Happy birthday to one of the most unique and impactful games I've ever played

[stoic junco]

... And no one continued the song.

Come on now.

[forest girder]

There was this emoji

Of the Orb with Smug Sandra reflected inside

God, I wish I could find it

[sly condor]

But twisted make a braid

Oof. You saw nothing lol.

[lavish vine]

together on their own

I feel like we started way too late in the song tho

[ember wraith]

Happy birthday to the game that came to me in my darkest times and changed my life. And cheers to Supergiant for making such unique, distinct games and embracing the power of music wholeheartedly.

[livid fog]

Noxalas!

aaaaaa too bad my chiptune cover and pixel art for pyre aren't done yet hahah

[sly condor]

I can't wait to see what kind of game supergiant makes after Hades. They're like my favorite indie studio

[sage river]

Mmm pyre was wonderful

I got it pretty late after its release but I loved it real quick

It’s so unlike the other games in so many ways. I love just traveling around and getting to know the other nightwings as the game goes on

It has such a personal pull about it that really sets it apart

Also the imps are adorable

[cosmic pier]

About to play Pyre for the first time, pretty stoked 😄

[upbeat sage]

niceu ^_^ hope you enjoy

[cosmic pier]

I'll go live shortly, so my ineptitude can be catalogued for generations! 😂

[sage river]

Enjoy occult basketball my guy

[vestal bluff]

I'm loving all the Pyre streams today

Pity I missed Cait's tho...

[upbeat sage]

she'll be streaming it again next week ^_^

[cosmic pier]

That was enjoyable, definitely need to play through the whole thing!

[sage river]

Hehe so good u got the pyre tag

[stoic junco]

Don't forget to save full stream videos as highlights so that they may never disappear from Twitch.

[upbeat sage]

otherwise they dissapear in 2 weeks?

[stoic junco]

Yeah

2 months have passed since I last tried to stream RimWorld (never again: it slows down to a crawl). All the records are gone, but the highlights of the entire stream are still there.

[upbeat sage]

twitch highlights are good like that, probably should have highlighted my own first playthrough of pyre 3 years ago now, but I was incredibly new to twitch streaming then

another option is downloading the vod if you have the space for it (or local recording if your pc can handle it)

[stoic junco]

But since I don't, I learned the Highlight way.

Also. I am not sure if anyone really wanted this, but I made a 1 hour extension of Dirty Deal with random Ron noises in the background. Along with some random phrases thrown in at random points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLMoYS4gRJQ

[haughty saffron]

I'm not mad enough listening to this for the full hour, but it's interesting.

[stoic junco]

It does indeed have some random phrases in between his usual grunting.

But if you are not in the mood to listen to the whole thing (understandably so), you can just skip to the end.

I tried getting the most "ending" of his voicelines. Which, surprisingly, was harder than I thought it would be.

[cosmic pier]

Haha I don't know if people want a record of my terrible voice acting preserved 😂

[unborn copper]

Pyre Community Rite Nite (multiplayer Pyre) starts in 45 minutes!
Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to get involved!

[unborn copper]

^Live now!

[old breach]

trying to remote play pyre with a buddy but i cant get pyre to launch while in steam beta mode? is this a thing others have run into?

[strong maple]

It’s been 3 years since pyre came out

Damn

I feel like it’s just a year at the most I was hyped for the preorder

[muted vault]

Happy Birthday Pyre! I just finished the game for the first time last Sunday before starting Hades.

[sharp rivet]

Whoa, a very happy birthday to Pyre! I love this game with all my heart, and I remember getting my figure of Red pre-launch and just staring at the little poster for Pyre that came with her for a while. This game still means so much to me thinking back on it, so I want to give a huge thanks to Supergiant for it and all their other wonderful creations.

[cobalt pivot]

Just started playing Pyre, immediately on the higher difficulty (but not highest, locked). As far as I understand, it's part of the experience to lose some of the pyres, is it right? Those dang withdrawn witches got me good

[small aspen]

it is normal to lose rites, even on normal difficulty

and the game is designed not to be unplayable if you lose

[timid silo]

I feel you from the same match on the highest difficulty!

[vestal bluff]

No shame losing to the Withdrawn, they’re probably the hardest AI team to face off against

And it is definitely part of the experience of this game that you lose a few matches

You’ll see later on that overcoming loss a big part of the story’s theme too

[cobalt pivot]

Thanks y'all can't wait to turn it on again later, it has amazing atmosphere

[timid silo]

It feels like a difficulty spike to make players understand just that. ...of course then there are the stubborn players who get the opposite lesson 😂

||https://laughingpinecone.tumblr.com/post/625081209231491072/me-against-the-withdrawn-on-true-nightwings-down || like so (photoset, Adventure Time late spoilers)

I'm mostly practicing for multiplayer anyway so all practice above my skill level is good practice 🤷‍♀️ (said the fox to the grapes)

[grim tusk]

I found it pretty easy to not lose rites on normal mode though

I only lost the ||3 harpy|| one

[iron flax]

almost lost against the ||wyrms|| Zesty boys

[lime mural]

Turned on Yslach as soon as it was available, only lost against ||the true Nightwings||, then I chumped out and turned it off for the very last Rite.

[timid silo]

That rite's a crash course in how to ||demon||

[stoic junco]

The final Rite on highest difficulty is insane.

[timid silo]

My power move would be to win all rites and then throw the final one since I'm sending up Oralech anyway, but in order to do that, I need to... win the ones before it. Hm.

[muted pebble]

I always fight Oralech with all titan stars mostly because it at least gives me the feeling that I won fair and square

[pure merlin]

Last fight was the only fight I used all stars on

Lasted maybe 30 minutes

Was INTENSE

[vestal bluff]

I usually just keep all my serums just for that match and it becomes one of the easiest, even with all the Titans

[pure merlin]

oh heck, now that you've mentioned it

i don't think I've ever used any of my serums

probably haven't used my stardust either

i hoarded them so hard I forgot they existed lmao

[stoic junco]

I always fight Oralech with all titan stars mostly because it at least gives me the feeling that I won fair and square
How is it fair if he already has enormous advantage over you?

[jagged pebble]

he’s pretty easy to counter
typhoon bottle screws demons over a lot

[vestal bluff]

Oh I wouldn’t survive without using all my stardust

Can’t get enough of it usually

[spark moon]

I'm staging an intervention

[timid silo]

I'm selecting a very limited number of talismans and pumping them up to the max, yeah...

[torn bolt]

fun fact: the first time i played pyre, i thought stardust was temporary, so i literally never used it ever until right before the last rite

[hybrid marlin]

I just found out that you can actually convince Rukey to shave his moustache in the beginning of the gamr

[spark moon]

But why would you :(

[torn bolt]

because he looks better

i will die on this hill

[spark moon]

Then be prepared

[lime mural]

I knew I liked you, Stephen.

[iron flax]

yo the moustache looks silly

[vestal bluff]

i will die on this hill
If I have anything to say about it, yeah you will

All you heathens

Long live the moustache

[iron flax]

like, yeah its cute

but like

it doesnt even look like its growing out of his face?

looks like a $3 prop from party city

[lime mural]

Looks like they were taped/glued on, yeah.

[vestal bluff]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/853847816962086895/9A211C6274CE0021B80143D52E63126255ADB4DA/

[torn bolt]

you can't please 'em all, failer

i'm willing to die for the truth

[vestal bluff]

Alas, that the heretics have taken over

[spark moon]

But where's the truth you're willing to die for Stephen

[stray jolt]

the mustache deserves to be shaved

[torn bolt]

👆

[midnight hawk]

stephen... i trusted you....... oh the shock and betrayal

[torn bolt]

sorry babs

i am beholden only to the truth

[strong maple]

the mustache is a must shave

[spark moon]

You are all cruel

[strong maple]

he looks so much more aerodynamic without it

[spark moon]

He doesn't need to be aerodynamic he needs to be stylish

[stray jolt]

the mustache was cramping his style

[torn bolt]

the mustache makes him look like a used car salesman. no mustache makes him fresh, respectable, and like the nice young man his mama knows he can be

it's a no-brainer

[spark moon]

The mustache gives him character

[versed hemlock]

Rukey without his mustache, just does not look right to me.

[lavish vine]

rukey looks a lot younger, and a lot less sketchy, without his mustache
and since he asks for your input, tell him what he needs to hear, not what you think he wants to hear

i'm willing to die for the truth

[craggy ruin]

I lost 1 Hope after this

[stoic junco]

Please stop. I personally think that Rukey looks much more trusting and fresh without his moustache. But I acknowledge that it gives him a unique charm (and also, when will you ever see a moustached dog again?).

I do hope that this debate is in the same vein as "How do we call the Moon-touched Girl?".

[timid silo]

Pretty much same here, I think he looks better shaved but otoh the 'stache makes him stand out so 🤷‍♀️

[midnight hawk]

he looks too much dog and not enough people without the mustache

[pliant sigil]

when i opened the channel and saw that picture of rukey i thought the main focus was the gold tooth and i completely overlooked the mustache lmao

[stoic junco]

Lol

[coral turret]

Imagine if he asked the reader wether or not he should keep his gold tooth

If you say no you have to yank it out for him and he sells it to falcon Ron

[mild falcon]

Hey you cant do that.... that's a prosthetic

Rukey needs that for eating

[grim tusk]

More food for everyone else then

[lavish vine]

nobody really wants to eat, the food is awful

confirmed by master chef hedwyn

[midnight hawk]

but who could say no to eating silt

[tall lantern]

How similar is pyre to hades?

[jagged pebble]

gameplay
nothing at all in common

dialoge
both are pretty amazing and well thought out

[tall lantern]

could someone be willing to explain the differences?

[jagged pebble]

pyre is like a sports game combined with rpg leveling up system
Hades is more combat focus rouge-like

[stray jolt]

pyre's dialogue directly influenced hades's dialogue system

"A dystopian, half fantasy VN, half 3v3 sportsball game that explores religion, government, and the true meaning of freedom through a branching character-centric story."

[spiral osprey]

they're different in basically every way except for some supergiant standard attack/movement types, and the way dialogue works + how you build relationships with other characters

Pyre isn't even isometric

[stray jolt]

bow's power shot came from this game, i think

[spiral osprey]

I thought there were power shots in Bastion?

[jagged pebble]

yea

i was hoping i was going to be able to throw the sword as well like in bastion

but i believe the animation for zag going down the || chaos holes|| is from pyre

[stray jolt]

could someone be willing to explain the differences?
it'd be easier to explain the similarities lol

pyre's use of a large cast of characters influenced hades's story

aside from that, it's nothing like sgg's other games in terms of gameplay

(also, caitlyn is currently streaming Pyre!)

[jagged pebble]

oh worm

[tall lantern]

how punishing is dying

[stray jolt]

none

[jagged pebble]

there is no fail state in pyre

[stray jolt]

^

[tall lantern]

how so

[stray jolt]

the game continues regardless, win or lose

[jagged pebble]

yea

and you have deal with the consequences of losing

[stray jolt]

the main gameplay is sportsball matches, there's no overt violence

[tall lantern]

well thats what I meant xD

[stray jolt]

if you lose the match, you deal with it and move on with the story

[spiral osprey]

Characters react to the loss and it affects things down the road

[tall lantern]

what about the replayability once you win the game

[stray jolt]

it's a branching story based on what matches you decide to pick

[tall lantern]

so technically you never finish?

[stray jolt]

depending on who you challenge, and whether you win or lose, the events that happen to your characters change and their final ending changes

[jagged pebble]

theres a setting called true nightwings which makes the game more difficult

you get it after you finish

[tall lantern]

like the pact of punishment of some sort?

[jagged pebble]

yea exactly

[stray jolt]

"branching" in terms of character arcs, the main story stays the same (but with surprisingly different events, depending on what's happened before)

although half the game is sportsball, the other half is visual novel, so be prepared to read a lot

[tall lantern]

thats what im looking for

not really the sport part

xD

thats why i asked if i lost

cause im not really interested in the matches

[stray jolt]

it's very hard to explain, tbf

if you aren't interested, you can set it to easy, but i'm not kidding when i say it's half the game

[jagged pebble]

yea

[stray jolt]

if you want a taste, caitlin is streaming it rn

https://www.twitch.tv/sofreshsales

[midnight hawk]

remember back in the old days when we thought barker/sandra/iggy would be a team

[mild falcon]

That's what the multiplayer is for

[tall lantern]

thanks for the help guys

[timid silo]

Barker/Sandra/Iggy SHOULD be a team omg

What led you to think that, though?

(don't underestimate the possibility of getting into the sportsball, though. I am the polar opposite of a sportsball person OR an action game person, and yet here I am)

[jagged pebble]

hey
you can just make it a request for tomorrow's rite nite

[timid silo]

Or play it myself

[young folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdgHK1Z1PLY
this trailer shows them in one team

[jagged pebble]

honestly they would all try to kill one another before the rite would even begin if they were all on one team in the story

[mild falcon]

I think they could all find some common ground...

Barker and sandra??? Theyd be tight friends once they got to know each other

Inventing new blasphemies together

[coarse temple]

I got a joke
What do you call a sap waking up?

[mild falcon]

What?

Wakesap?

Uhhh leafing their bed

Hehe

[timid silo]

Oh thanks! The comments on the video are amazing, haha. From "why'd they exile dogs" to "tl;dr blitzball" to "it's nice to hear new talent but is Logan Cunningham going to be in this"... beautiful

Pretty funny how they picked the other demon that wasn't a massive spoiler and the menacing-looking cur to not reveal other races and make the Beyonders look evilllll...

[young folio]

@coarse temple please keep it clean!

[twin pecan]

Anybody have tips for true nightwing mode? Been getting wreckt which is nice narratively (never played the story with multiple losses) but it is somewhat frustrating to play varying lengths of “Sorry you lost, check the stars for your next whooping!”

[jagged pebble]

what’s your usual load out with tailsmans and characters

[twin pecan]

So far I’ve been trying Jodariel/Fae/and a rotating third

Talismans are the ones from the scribe trials for Jo and Fae and then I think I have a Rite Light in the mix

[jagged pebble]

get prayer beads stat splinter and webbed lanthorn whenever your able

[timid silo]

Consider your adversaries. I'm adopting wildly different strategies depending on whom I'm up against and even on the arena. Don't be shy with titan stars or you will lag behind experience-wise.

Rotating more also means more inspiration ie eventually more exp

[vestal bluff]

Coolguy’s got it. Those three talismans are pretty essential on TN

Your team should consist of someone who can jump-score, someone who can throw-score at range, and someone on defense

Then use each of those three items to make them even better at what they do

Vengeful Vow is also not to be underestimated on Gilman once he’s got Avanging Aid, so he can act like a second Lanthorn even if he can’t hit his opponent with a cast

[unborn copper]

Pyre Community Rite Nite (multiplayer Pyre) starts in 1 hour!
Watch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids and/or join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to get involved!

[tacit obsidian]

I just wanted to say this somewhere--I cried a lot at my version of Bound Together, and as fate would have it someone on youtube uploaded their version and it's exactly the same as mine, and every once in a while I just need to listen to it and...cry. A lot.

[vestal bluff]

Bound Together is the best credits song of all time

[timid silo]

it really is 😭

[vestal bluff]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedFastLlamaPrimeMe

We all love this map

It's great

[spark moon]

Boat go nyoom

[jagged pebble]

i am convinced this boat is built on top of a jumpy castle

[coarse temple]

ok

[tall lantern]

Hey guys, I got the game yesterday, about to player later, any beginner tips I should be aware

Non spoiler if possible

[midnight hawk]

is ok to lose. the story progresses no matter what, so there's no game over.

it could affect the ending, but there's multiple endings and choices and none are really a "bad end" (iirc it's been a minute)

[timid silo]

If you do, however, want to win any given match for whatever reason, the pause screen of the matches includes a quick restart option.

Everything else, the game explains well enough by itself, I think!

Big spoiler opinion: ||I think all topside vs downside endings shake up well enough and are mostly up to personal preference. The peaceful vs non peaceful axis however is another thing altogether... In particular the bloodiest ending is... a massacre and weighs on people's consciences, so that for me is a bad ending...||

[tall lantern]

I'm just looking for replayability, someone said yesterday there's something like the pact of punishment from hades

[timid silo]

Replayability is definitely a thing

Also multiplayer

[tall lantern]

If only was online 😫

None of my homies have a controller, and im guessing they need one for local coop

Thats how most local coop work

[timid silo]

It's on Steam Whatsitcalled Play, so you can invite any of your Steam friends to play with you!

[tall lantern]

Remote

But they will need a controller right?

[timid silo]

For that I'll defer to the people who set up the weekly multiplayer matches!

[tall lantern]

Thats how it works on isaac and fury unleashed

[small aspen]

I find that only the host needs a controller for remote play

It usually defaults to keyboard and mouse for guests

[tall lantern]

I dont have one either 😫 🤣

[small aspen]

Haven't tried adding more keyboards but that might work too?

[tall lantern]

Would that work with remoteplay?

[vestal bluff]

Two keyboards/mouses don't work unfortunately

But there's this, which lets you emulate a controller with kbm
https://support.parsecgaming.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012652092-Playing-Games-With-Two-Keyboards-Emulating-A-Controller-With-A-Keyboard