its like there is v-sync activated, but there is no option to deactivate
#pyre
lime mural
vestal bluff
That's fair, just making sure you're aware
mental moth
I think he only jumps if you mind control him? I didn't have the heart to do that option
sturdy swallow
i don't recall
mental moth
also demon doctor is such a cool nickname 😄
vestal bluff
So they don't get to keep their horns, but I'm not sure if they get to keep their height or not
Alliterating nicknames are the best nicknames
People always get so caught up in Oralech being big and scary and a big-time Final Boss, that they don't stop to remember he's literally a surgeon
vestal bluff
Yeah it's not a secret or anything
But, like, you don't see menacing, intimidating doctors (who aren't the mad-scientist type) in games that often
heavy hill
manley and the archjustice are the only full antagonists imo
oralech to an extent, he's like ||zulf|| from bastion but much angrier and less murder-y
vernal harbor
no mention of Jodariel's horns or stature receding in my save
vestal bluff
Udmildhe's def an antagonist
She literally wants to bring back the evilest of the Titans
heavy hill
oh yeah udmildhe
sturdy swallow
i mean doesn't everyone kinda write her off tho
like yslach is coming back in millenia
coral turret
Dude I liberated zolfred my first play through, final lib rite. NO mind tricks. Forfeited my freedom, and oralech still made the leap
I was like 😨
So jaw dropping
vestal bluff
zolfred
sturdy swallow
who
sturdy swallow
oH wait wood man
vestal bluff
sturdy swallow
i kept going over all the antagonists who face you tryna remember their names lmao
coral turret
Tbh I was pissed at him before that point bc I, like in the readers shoes I would be like ‘hey man sorry but it’s literally not my problem take it up with sudowoodo here ok?’
But
After that I reconsidered
heavy hill
oralech will always fall into despair and also the cold hard ground if he does not win I think
coral turret
And I saved him on my bad play through where I kept everyone stranded in the downside and lost ever rite and was mean and chose the worst options
sturdy swallow
not always
coral turret
And I was like oh Gd he’s nice
I felt so bad
Wasn’t as bad a play though as it sounds!
sturdy swallow
i killed him on my second run but my first run he lived in the downside i thought
coral turret
Like the ending wasn’t TOO awful. But it was so painful to play
vernal harbor
on my first run Oralech lost but during the Canadian-off that followed I liberated him and it net the best ending for him
heavy hill
I don't think you're really meant to like oralech and want him to win, but more see how he thinks he's justified
coral turret
I forget what I did on the evil play through
sturdy swallow
i liked oralech honestly
heavy hill
so the first playthrough dislike is understandable
coral turret
I think I didn’t even get the chance to take her
sturdy swallow
oop
coral turret
Bc I didn’t progress anyone
vernal harbor
I won against Oralech because I thought if I just let him win it wouldn't make him happy, so best to give my best
coral turret
Like I said evil play through
heavy hill
can't you override his decision to liberate himself if he wins?
vestal bluff
💚 Sandra 💚
vernal harbor
and indeed when I just let him win he showed no pride
yes you can reach out to him or manipulate him if he wins
heavy hill
that's the real evil playthrough move
"lmao forget your hard earned win oralech, I'm liberating fricking tizo"
coral turret
I guess if I were in shoes I would feel similarly, also I wonder (based of Lendel mostly) if being in the downside for awhile makes one a bit..
torn bolt
i won against oralech because, despite not liking volfred personally, i thought the plan was more important
coral turret
lmao imagine just liberating tizo and no one else
sturdy swallow
well now im wondering why on earth erisa did what she did
coral turret
and doing that to oralech just for tizo
heavy hill
she's desperate to leave
coral turret
Stranded alone uptop
sturdy swallow
i wonder if reader shenanigans happened tho
coral turret
I felt so bad for her but
Idk it felt like a Judas sort of story wherein Judas does something awful and pays for it
I always felt bad for him as a kid :S
I relate to making horrible rash decisions and mistakes. Idk about killing people but! Still
heavy hill
oralech was the one who was anointed beforehand, I don't think there are any schenanigans
sturdy swallow
how does that prove there were no shenanigans
if he was annointed
oH
cause they all agree
hm wonder who they faced and if their reader maybe did something
i suppose it doesn't matter and we'll never know
vestal bluff
The only other time this happens is when ||Dalbert gives up his freedom for Almer||
vernal harbor
the apocrypha Gospel of Judas or something did state that Judas conspired with Jesus to get Jesus killed and Judas was the most devot of the disciples because Judas was willing to bear the burden of utterly ruined reputation, but Erisa... can't say the same
vestal bluff
Which is another extremely powerful moment
heavy hill
readers don't appear to have full mind control
more mind...influence? and it's very brief, I don't think a reader would be capable of compelling someone to murder
vestal bluff
You gotta make sure you ||let the Fate win||
coral turret
I feel like intention played a huge part bc Dalbert allowed him to go, whereas erisa shoved her way in
sturdy swallow
well erisa's action was very spur of the moment and brief
heavy hill
and I imagine Volfred would have been able to tell, being a reader himself
vestal bluff
That's the key
sturdy swallow
it wasn't like encouraging full premeditated murder, it was just seizing the victory for herslf
mayhaps
vestal bluff
There's a kind of prayer you say in order to anoint someone
And only the one who was anointed in the first place can give up their freedom for someone
coral turret
My headcanon for reading was that it’s more like...psychic coaching. Strong influence but not absolute control
sturdy swallow
ig it doesn't super matter why she did what she did, just that we live with the consequences
vestal bluff
You can't steal it like Erisa tried
vernal harbor
I think it was said that the bridge has to be adjusted for the person to go
during the last rite, even when it was flung wide open, Celeste still stopped my Volfred from stepping into it, saying that he would surely die
(context: Volfred lost the rite)
so when they all agree, it is adjusted for that person
otherwise, you die like Erisa?
sorry, my theory is probably not working since the Almer thing
vestal bluff
It's also, you know, literal magic
sturdy swallow
so: consent matters is the gist i think
vestal bluff
Consent of the one originally anointed
sturdy swallow
yes, thank you i should've clarified
sturdy swallow
also scribe check is so funny lmao
vestal bluff
"it was flung wide open" is something Oralech thinks happened, but I'm not sure if that's actually the case
sturdy swallow
i checked the pins for how to spell erisas name and then read the message
vestal bluff
haha
vernal harbor
oh no
sturdy swallow
bruh and its not like you were a badass assassin or anything like sandra you're just a person 😔
cobalt elbow
coral turret
Whenever I reblog a pic of him on tumblr someone else reblogs it or comments like ‘mike wazowski??’
sturdy swallow
bruh
coral turret
the fire!
coral turret
Gd that looks like pleakley
sturdy swallow
i kinda wanna get a tumblr cause i see funny content from there all the time but the layout of everything scares me lmao
coral turret
minus his little antennae
sturdy swallow
he looks distraught
coral turret
Tumblr is awful in a great way I love it
it’s the main social media platform I use bc I have the most followers there plus it’s funny and insane
But like in a mostly good way
It’s very ridiculous and stupid and I like it like that
I have a Twitter and insta too but they kinda bore me
timid silo
i won against oralech because, despite not liking volfred personally, i thought the plan was more important
@torn bolt the irony of this being a reasoning that Volfred would greatly appreciate...
coral turret
Gd that’s so true
I liked him but I will say sometimes I got mad when I saw someone was in the wagon waiting to talk
And then it was him 😑
but he had a lot of important things to say ofc!
torn bolt
i just never liked him from the first time he told me to buzz off and let him handle things 
sturdy swallow
i need to replay pyre i forget a lot of stuff thats happening lol
sturdy swallow
im playing so much hades im prolly addicted lmao
midnight hawk
i also won against oralech bc the plan seemed more important
the last battle was oralech vs volfred and ti'zo
vestal bluff
Making Oralech rite against Ti'zo...
It's one thing when Oralech and Volfred face off 'cause Oralech's kinda mad at Volf, but Ti'zo is so innocent
timid silo
owwwww
Oralech's rite convos are all great
the one with Ti'zo is heartbreaking
(the one with Volfred is also heartbreaking. ...the one with Hedwyn is the funniest thing in the whole game)
vestal bluff
"So... you're the one Volfred picked to replace me"
"...what"
"Well replace this, boy!"
*Dunks*
vestal bluff
Now just Imagine if it had multiplayer... 😉
coral turret
Omg I wish
I’m so bad at multiplayer games lol I panic if I’m fighting against someone I know is real and judging my button mashing
stray jolt
i feel a rite club promotion coming
coral turret
But that’s half the fun
south plover
Multiplayer would be wild
vestal bluff
Check the pins
My server, Rite Club, uses Steam Remote Play to make Pyre versus mode work online
We have a Rite Nite every Sunday afternoonish
forest girder
By the Devs, we gather in their names
To enjoy rite nite here before the flames
timid silo
THAT'S THE SPIRIT
south plover
Time for my first Liberation Rite
south plover
I'm choosing Hedwyn.
torn bolt
hedwyn ;w;
south plover
He succeeded on this side I trust him to get stuff rolling on the other
forest girder
Heckwyn
south plover
THE MUSIC
south plover
I did it
forest girder
I love how each one sings you in a different ear
south plover
That's probably a good place to stop for now.
Got one friend out and didn't lose any matches (so far).
jagged pebble
i don't know what emotion that is suppose to be expressing and it frieghtens me
stray jolt
me listening to never to return
heavy hill
lmao the hat
south plover
Haha, yeah.
The model is even greyscaled
I assume the other woman is meant to be Celeste
jagged pebble
i just thought it was stock photo weirdness
timid silo
Stock photo model Tariq
urban hollow
@south plover I liberated Rukey in my first right because he was my favourite boy and I wanted him free, then regret everything because he was also my best boy. I think Hedwyn will be #2. I'm managing well with Jodariel even though she's slow.
Anyone else fumble-detonate Tizo all the time? Causes issues for me. I'm a bit sketchy with pyre diving and special tricks.
mild falcon
at first i was detonating tizo all the time acidentally
but i got better at it
I swear if it wasnt for the flight trinket, the best trinket for tizo would be the one that prevents casting
south plover
I'll be sending Jodi last because I can't stand the heart break of seeing her go
Prolonging the inevitable will only make the pain hurt more but I don't care
mental moth
I've sent home the OG trio first and the Blackwagon felt so empty after that 😦
Also sending Rukey home made me realize that I love playing with Pam
unborn copper
The next Pyre Rite Nite TODAY at 3:30 pm US Eastern Time! Join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to play with us and/or watch on Twitch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids All skill and experience levels welcome!
tender ridge
I sent Jodi home first, partially because she was my most enlightened, secondly because I felt like she deserved to get out, being exiled for so long. I only regret that I didn't get to know her better.
heavy hill
that's the most painful part
on one hand, I always want to spend more time with the original three
on the other hand, rukey praying for his mom 😔
unborn copper
PYRE RITE NITE IS STARTING NOW! Join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to play with us and/or watch on Twitch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids All skill and experience levels welcome!
tranquil ivy
how long does a full playthrough take?
start to finish
i got to after the first lib rite, and basically decided the game wasnt for me
but might finish a full game just to say i did
jagged pebble
about 10 hr i think
lime mural
10-15 hours.
tranquil ivy
really? dang i feel like i spent that long getting to the first rite
jagged pebble
it goes by much faster after the 1st rite
small aspen
my playtime for one run was 18 hours, but that includes me doing stuff like stopping for food
lime mural
tbh those Rite Nites are really interesting. The level of theorycrafting is glorious.
vestal bluff
Why thanks!
The amount of creativity you've got when everyone gets 4 skills + a Talisman right off the bat is a ton of fun
I'm glad it's fun to watch too!
torn bolt
now if only there were more exiles so you could get crazy with three of one class builds.......
jagged pebble
you can do it with demon's but thats it
sturdy swallow
i thought there's only two max?
torn bolt
there are three nomads, three demons, and three curs
but i'd love to play, like, three harps or three imps
sturdy swallow
ah
jagged pebble
three imps would be so annoying to deal with
torn bolt
exactly 
vestal bluff
Three Imps would be Tier 0 forever
lime mural
Ti'zo is the only Imp in the cast, right?
vestal bluff
Messenger Imp too
jagged pebble
essence
torn bolt
yes, but only tam and pam are playable in versus mode
failer do you mean tier 0 in a good or bad way
torn bolt
okay i was going to say
vestal bluff
If we had a 3rd Imp, I wonder what Talisman would be best
For sure Lanthorn and Wing would be the first 2
'cause those are both busted in half
Maybe it's just the Scribe Rock for more Presence?
Also Fikani doesn't have a full-size portrait in the game so I don't think I could mod her in :(
sturdy swallow
is there like supplementary pyre lore out there aside from in game things
just curious about what i need to consume if i wanna make pyre d&d
i think i might spend my social distancing time doing that
vestal bluff
As far as I know, there isn't really much outside the game
People have found cut content and conversations in the code
But I don't really think that's required reading for a Downside D&D setting
sturdy swallow
aight ty
i need to replay the game to refresh my memory about things lol
hrnnnng must get away from hades but h
lime mural
get one of Tam's back-up dancers and do an intentionally clumsy photoshop of Fikani's face on top of theirs
sturdy swallow
idk why but i thought fikani has blue in her art
lime mural
She has blue hair, doesn't she?
lime mural
sturdy swallow
ah yes
long holly
the fact this is all we see is ... rather haunting
sturdy swallow
somehow my brain interpreted that as "we've never seen fikani before"
vestal bluff
We never see, like, a full portrait of her like we see the rest of the cast tho
lime mural
How do you mean, @long holly
vestal bluff
Same deal as when we see Brighton's face
sturdy swallow
is there any extra lore locked behind true nightwing mode
all i know is that brighton reacts sometimes or something
i like that tbh
oh
long holly
@lime mural the game never is in your face about it. "hey player, look at fikani!" -- instead it's just tucked away without a word behind a tooltip
vestal bluff
Imo, not at all
vestal bluff
You do hear about her from Hedwyn if you wait long enough before liberating him
long holly
i mean i was kinda shocked to discover she had a portrait
vestal bluff
And (iirc) the last thing he says before he ascends is "Fikani... wait for me"
vestal bluff
He also voiced Deluge
torn bolt
blender greg?? 😱
sturdy swallow
deluge? lol
lime mural
see, Deluge I can see
vestal bluff
This makes his voicing of Hypnos make more sense
lime mural
But Oralech's voice register lies somewhere between Hell and the core of the Earth.
vestal bluff
lol
I think there's a bit of post-processing for all the Demons' voices
But probs most of it is just Greg being gravelly
vestal bluff
Always love how the Will of the Scribes bass kicks in whenever Oralech's talking
onyx forum
greg can be ur hypnos or ur oralech
heavy hill
there are two wolves within you
vernal harbor
feed both so they become the two-headed god wolf of the orchard
heavy hill
yeah that scene is probably my favorite in the game
jagged pebble
pyre literally made mom said its my turn on the xbox into a mechanic
urban hollow
I only approaching my second rite but OMG that demon guy...cool. I take ages to play anything. I'm probably 10 hours or over already. I could check. What I miss about sending Rukey home early is also not hearing the story. It was his little drawing of his family that broke my heart so I sent him home. And I felt bad for ringing his ears too much that one time. Jodi I'm keeping around so that she can see at least Hedwyn saved.
south plover
I saved Hedweyn first.
I've only done my first rite.
And I liked that demon dude the first time you run into him ||he also made me feel bad because as you get close to beating him and he's sort of accepting his defeat, he mentions some girl back home (presumably his girlfriend) and says something along the lines of "you probably wouldn't like the look of what I turned into anyway"||
I was like awww )':
dark phoenix
I always rely on a strong runningback and since I‘m gonna save Rukey in the next rite, Faye‘s gonna need some levelling 👀
mortal viper
i hate it how every single triumvirate except chastity and withdrawn obvs have their own, personal reason for wanting to return
forest girder
Actually the Diddidents don't give a damn about going back
They are just there for the basketball
In fact they are the ONLY ones ||To go to the second to last ritual of the game to have a last good match with you|| as Barker has a lot of places to piss on in the Downside.
mortal viper
i mean the dissinents are the exception
timid silo
Really? If it's against the Dissidents it's a regular match? I didn't know that. amazing
Where's the epic Barker fic about that moment
jagged pebble
i mean he says that they're only there for fun in the lib rite
timid silo
And go on to found Regular Basketball afterwards, which is kind of my fave ending in the whole damn game
jagged pebble
fjkldsafjkldsalkfajskl;
BARKER IS AIRBUD
lime mural
Wait, wasn't Lendel a dirty cop?
jagged pebble
yea
tranquil ivy
i meant to say this yesterday
but im curious about those that want to use the Downside for a D&D setting
lime mural
I know he reforms if everyone else contributes to a peaceful revolution, but...
I don't know, I'd feel weird not sending up as many of the Nightwings as possible.
tranquil ivy
seeing as the actually gameplay of Pyre isnt a good fit for D&D
unless Pyre D&D wouldnt be about the Liberation Rites
lime mural
Well, you could just play Pyre AS d20 turnbased (or whatever the term would be).
Presence translates directly to range, Quickness to footspeed.
It would be a very different take on tabletop RPG, but I'd try it if there were a decent kit for it.
tranquil ivy
i dont think Liberation Rites would work as a turnbased game...
lime mural
That's actually a good point.
tranquil ivy
so youre either changing how D&D works to fit how the Liberation Rites work, or you're changing how the Liberation Rites work to fit D&D
now, if you make the Liberation Rites more traditional ritualistic combat, i think a D&D campaign about that would be dope
torn bolt
or honestly you could have a non-rites campaign about exploring the downside
lots of perils there, good adventuring stuff
tranquil ivy
that too, but i feel like you'd end up making up more stuff about the world than is present in the game
a lion's share of the lore involves the Rites
torn bolt
but isn't homebrew one of the principal pleasures of a dm
tranquil ivy
of course, but if the point is to play "Pyre D&D" you'd want more than just a dash of actual Pyre in there
maybe working with the races and locations would be enough, i dunno
lime mural
Well, changing the Rites kinda takes out most of what made Pyre Pyre.
tranquil ivy
exactly, which is why I'm saying D&D might not be the right system for turning Pyre into a tabletop game
seeing as D&D focuses on turnbased combat
lime mural
You're right.
torn bolt
i'd love to make my own pyre ttrpg, but i'm not quite sure what the best base template for it is
i also feel like greyhawk initiative from d&d is a good potential idea for how rites would work?
tranquil ivy
i dont know if something initiative based would work, but im honestly not that well versed in other ways to do it. Savage Worlds has a more freeflowing initiative based on cards that mixes up the order every round
torn bolt
i might check that out too
greyhawk initiative also changes order every round
and it depends on how fast or slow the action you're taking that turn is
frozen isle
I might be biased cause I like it a lot, but the Powered by the Apocalypse system is super malleable, so translating pyre to it may be easier; specially cause "combat" it's not turn based but narrative based, so it'd be easier to translate the mechanics of a liberation rite
sturdy swallow
my thought for liberation rites is that rites shouldn't be translated exactly
combat could replace that, and a system similar to greyhawk initiative, which implies constant reacting to everyone around you, would be fitting
stats like quickness and hope could maybe be dm-given buffs, keepsakes could be magical items
i do not think the orb nor the pyre should be present
tranquil ivy
@frozen isle i considered PbtA but that felt too vague
sturdy swallow
auras im still iffy on
tranquil ivy
Rites should still have defined mechanics
sturdy swallow
i think there should be defined mechanics for some aspects
but the whole wizard basketball probably wouldn't work well in d&d, mayhaps another platform
but people are mainly interested in downside d&d bc pyre's lore is honestly so rich and fascinating
mortal viper
you could base it on dice rolls maybe?
as in, per turn you have an action: dash, aura cast, jump
move, and orb toss if you have the orb
it could work on a hexagonal grid
dark phoenix
Would just need to tone the amount of it down, unless you wanna roll so many dice as you‘d try to play Risk
mortal viper
if your jump range can intercept the toss roll high enough to catch it etc
simple rolls, 1 per turn
2 max
along with your movement
aura casts basically work as ranged attacks
you could have your +presence modifier to hit
sturdy swallow
pathfinder has things like morality bonuses
maybe something like that could function for certain buffs?
frozen isle
@tranquil ivy It's vague as a template but you make it as specific as what the game calls for, like there's a wrestling PbtA game where you have specific moves for talking into the mic, doing some feat of strenght , etc. so the moves are specific and the vagueness works in that you can phrase it how you want, like a specific move could be passing the orb, and the player can describe it like a basket pass or a spinning throw
sturdy swallow
i have a question regarding the chronology of transforming into a demon. so, supposedly, this happens as someone has been exposed to elements in the downside for extended periods of time. and yet, jodariel's race observation notes a quote from when oralech was sentenced, and in it, he was referred to as a demon. does the sentencing ceremony not take place within the commonwealth itself?
torn bolt
i think they were referring to him like. as a demon because they judged him Guilty
torn bolt
i hc that 'demons' were a thing in sahrian folklore before the downside was discovered, and that's what they decided to call people who'd gone through that transformation, because it fit within that framework for them
sturdy swallow
they did use his title "chief physician"
torn bolt
yeah
torn bolt
headcanon
sturdy swallow
ah
torn bolt
i have a lot of Thoughts filling in some pyre lore hahah
forest girder
Also we see him as a human
His splash portrait before getting introduced is his human one
To not spoil the twist
proud summit
forest girder
Reaching is enough
jagged pebble
i dont think so
loud dagger
damn, now i have Ideas on a forged in the dark hack for the rites (continuing the earlier ttrpg convo)
young folio
i got the true nightwing achievement by losing every single rite, if that answers your question
i wanted to do such a playthrough and i wanted to get that 100% again, and i figured there would be no such better combination
mortal viper
Does the story change a lot if you lose all the rites? Wanna do a run like that out of curiosity ngl
young folio
not much
it just goes on regardless, and you see some dialogue you might not see if you always win
and well. the ending is different
mortal viper
That's all I need
forest girder
And most people that go end actually worse
mortal viper
Once I get through my backlog of 4+ games at any given time
I wanna do a completely silent run
Reader say nothing.
young folio
so i did all of sandra's trials only to reject her in the end :<
jagged pebble
i could do that
young folio
sorry schpoon you know i had to do it 
coral turret
Ooh oh what does she say!!
My evil run I didn’t even get the option because I never finished the trials
young folio
copied from sparrow, ty sparrow 
||`- Sandra wishes for you to claim the Beyonder Crystal for yourself.
- Decline, with all respect [The Beyonder Crystal is not your property, nor is Sandra's penance your responsibility.]
- You inform Sandra that, although you very much appreciate her offer, and value her service to you and the Nightwings, that you cannot accept.
- The Beyonder Crystal was never yours to take, and belongs to the Nightwings. And Sandra's penance is not yours to judge, or change.
- You wish her well.
- She absorbs all this, betraying no emotion.
“...Very well, then, Reader.”
“I knew the proposition was absurd. But, in my place, I felt that I had little left to lose.”
“Thus, I shall consider our relationship to have come to its inevitable end. There is nothing more that I can do for you, and nothing you would do for me.”
“I have dealt with many of your Nightwings in my time, but, for whatever it is worth, I wish for you to know... I liked you better than the rest of them.”
“You knew when to shut up.”
“Now, then... goodbye. And, may you crush your last remaining adversaries under heel, as surely I would have.” - She is gone.... The Beyonder Crystal is inert.
- (if you attempt to use the Beyonder Crystal after this)
- The Beyonder Crystal is inert. When you attempt to reach out to Sandra, she does not respond as once she did.`||
and sorry for the big spoiler block.
jagged pebble
whats the spoiler for?
young folio
conversation with sandra when you reject her offer to take her with you
mortal viper
That is sad
young folio
i did it so you never have to 
jagged pebble
thank you you brave soldier
jagged pebble
NO
young folio
oh oh
mortal viper
I don't remember anything like that on my playthrough
young folio
sorry that it gets stuck in the beginning i took this video on my old and not very good computer
but there it is
experience it
jagged pebble
WHY WOULD YOU EVER CHOOSE TO DO THIS
mortal viper
Oh wow
Poor ora
That's even sadder if he ends up the same way he does if you don't free him regardless
young folio
for the vine no, i just wanted to see everything in the game. i love oralech, i freed him in my stead when i first played even though i won because i was really touched by his whole story and i felt that he deserved his freedom and wanted to reunite him with volfred in the commonwealth, who i also freed
i recorded it bc i figured some people would wanna see it but also not... choose it. yknow
jagged pebble
yea
young folio
ive only been into supergiant games since 2015
i just saw the date on the video and needed a moment LOL
mortal viper
I feel ya
It's like coming across old viral videos
Remember when a Korean guy doing a funny dance was the most viewed thing on YouTube
Along with a pop tart cat farting rainbows
tawdry geyser
i only got into supergiant games at like start of 2017 tbh
mortal viper
@tawdry geyser fae best girl
Wait
What names did you all choose for fae the stowaway
tawdry geyser
fae
fae gang
pyre stands out in my mind as literally the only game i've ever run home to play
it came out in the morning and i didn't get a chance to play it until after school
so i literally ran home from the bus stop
tawdry geyser
exactly
sturdy swallow
ALMA WHY
jagged pebble
SOMEON HAD TO
sturdy swallow
also fae bc she's a savage with elements of nature magic
sturdy swallow
tho i named her bae on another one
god i forgot how much i love this game
its such a fun adventure replaying
small details like tariq travelling with oralech or judge man saying ti'zo's name with disdain
are great
jagged pebble
i always see that emoji but im never quite sure what emotion its trying to protray
jagged pebble
moon man
jagged pebble
it would cover most of his face
sturdy swallow
jagged pebble
rjklfjkldfjldsajfkl;
it took me so long to realize the star thing on volfred and the reader is the mark of a reader
sturdy swallow
yeah they branded him permanently :shakingeyes:
jagged pebble
at least its not his entire face
frozen isle
damn, now i have Ideas on a forged in the dark hack for the rites (continuing the earlier ttrpg convo)
@loud dagger Blades in the Dark is kind of surprisingly fitting for Pyre jajaja the world has gone bad (Cause you're in the downside), your party is a band of criminals going up against other bands of criminals, but instead of trying to make money you're trying to get out
jagged pebble
cuz the commonwealth give me the vibe that they would DEFINITELY do that
loud dagger
@frozen isle yeah!! it's kind of a similar hemmed-in world with weird psychic powers that no one explains
mostly i just want to make the pyres be clocks. you could also use bitd's faction game to simulate the other triumvirate rankings
loud dagger
ajdfhs for real though! i have notes written down. if you're interested i'll make a Google doc sometime
young folio
also, zhae gang
frozen isle
I mean, I've never done something like this, the biggest homebrew thing I've done is a dnd campaign, but if you think my input will help any then sure!
loud dagger
@frozen isle that's already an accomplishment! for sure
jagged pebble
i picked gae for my lastest one cuz logan yelling gay is hilarious to me
coral turret
I did gae too!
forest girder
I still want to know what happened to the scribes. Did they die of old age? Became stars? Left civilization behind?
Also who killed the tattered mantle? Or it did simply stop moving once it killed Khaylmer?
jagged pebble
i feel like they were just normal people who just say
hey lets make the best of this horrible situation and tried to make the downside as livable as possible (killing the titans) and then tariq found them and showed them how to play wizard basketball
forest girder
Yeah, but once their work is finished what did they do?
sturdy swallow
didn't they dissolve into the stars or something
that's what tariq and celeste did
and they're connected to the rites inherently as the heralds
jagged pebble
i mean
they're eldritch bards so i don't think reality even applies to them
sturdy swallow
very fair
in the end of bound together they mention "returning to the stars" so i assume the scribes did the same?
perhaps after creating the rites at mt. alellelellalodiel (?)
since they vanquished the titans first
im just spewing thoughts tbh
jagged pebble
i honestly just think they died from old age
vestal bluff
"Mt. Alodiel"
sturdy swallow
ty
night locust
Remind me, does Pyre have a fleshed out written language?
forest girder
Reading? That's a paddlin'
jagged pebble
your character is literally put in into the middle of the U.S. as a punishment for being able to read
night locust
I can't remember if the book is written in English or a made up language, I mean
vestal bluff
The Book is written in English, but the spoken language (Sahrian) is made up
night locust
Dinger
forest girder
And then there is Telepathian or also called English sometimes
sturdy swallow
i too can read
torn bolt
the logical contortions you need to go through to accept that the book of rites is in english........
anyway i do like the idea that the scribes were once ordinary people who became eldritch basketball wizard gods and/or stars
torn bolt
an absolutely terrible human
torn bolt
yeah gol golathanian was like the average dude compared to all these weird-ass companions lmao
nomads: Just Normal Human Dude
jagged pebble
plus Sandra
torn bolt
man, how mad do you think she is about being in the same character class as soliam's boyfriend
coral turret
Do you think the other scribes got banished in an attempt to hunt soliam? Is that ever explained in the book?
lime mural
I think they went to find and kill him in case he had survived.
coarse spade
u ever go back to the beginning of the game and realize that lendel's first dialogue is him being salty about tizo
this took me,,, two weeks to figure it out
mild falcon
hc that soliam is hot
dusky cradle
HC that the Reader can hear a faint humming from the Orb when they get near it
Like musical humming, Sandra being bored and singing/humming.
timid silo
That's not a hc it's just there in his demonified artwork
About the Scribes' death: I get the impression from assorted convos that the worldbuilding took an approach that's more interested in keeping to a theme and mood than in the logistics of the whole affair -
They pretty much say that when people die they become stars, and the stars are what you use to find your way... to me it feels like when you look at history for inspiration and guidance, but literal
Now that the Scribes' cycle has come to an end, their stars have faded and new ones will rise in their stead - the Nightwings', for sure
How exactly that happens, idk, but for me it's cool symbolism
torn bolt
That's not a hc it's just there in his demonified artwork eva i'm losing it
torn bolt
he's got a terrible haircut though
timid silo
Look I'm not saying he's conventionally attractive but that picture does sell "charisma off the charts" to me
jagged pebble
who is this
coarse spade
did i miss something about why specifically the stars are pulling an "aight imma head out" or
cuz i had the impression the titan stars were crowding them out of the sky
or something like that
timid silo
The frequent wording is "the stars are fading"!
coarse spade
thanks friendo
heavy hill
I thought it was cause the titan stars are munching them up
but also I haven't played in a while...I should play again
timid silo
The titan stars substitute the olden stars - presumably the cycle that came before the Scribes', as it includes the First Empress of Sahr
they do not interact with the Scribes' stars which you use as your guide to the next rite
torn bolt
now i want to know how the scribes saw the figures in the olden stars..........
timid silo
Me too, so much. It's such an interesting group going by description and zodiac sign affiliation!
torn bolt
also i want to know which scribes had which fantasy zodiac signs 🤔
you could say it's 1:1 with nightwings but i think it'd be more interesting if it were different
timid silo
Absolutely. Not even the Scribes themselves match with their respective Nightwing personality-wise, no way they share a sign!
torn bolt
i feel like the nightwings' signs are like what the scribes are Perceived as being more than the Reality, if that makes sense
timid silo
I am having trouble placing Lu Sclorian anywhere near Cancer in any capacity 🤔 but that's the only one I know offhand for obvious bias, lemme go check the others
oh wait, Hedwyn's Leo. Yeah, that I could definitely see, the perception rather than the reality for Gol
sturdy swallow
is there a way to disable being able to pass with your mouse
cause like
no me gusta
i wanna move not pass hhhhhhh
jagged pebble
you can change the controls to wsad
sturdy swallow
im fighting oralech when he first shows up with all the titan stars i have rn and it hurts
aight bet
torn bolt
yeah oralech and all titan stars is rough
sturdy swallow
not all of them, just the ones i have atm
im not a masochist and doing tn hahaha
true nightwing makes me cry
jagged pebble
yea its so hard
i only liberated 2 of my guys out of 5 times i could
gae and jodi
jagged pebble
yea
it was the 2 earliest ones
sturdy swallow
oop
jagged pebble
the one that hurt the most was letting the withdrawn win
cuz she only won cuz i had to have 7 stars on
sturdy swallow
ulmildthe is such an yslach stan smh 💅
is that how you spell her name
oh well
aj's pronunication reminded me of matilda
small aspen
I think it's udmildhe?
dusk current
Hey @forest girder ! It stands for 'headcanon,' for when people have thoughts about how characters/stories happen but they may not be the "official" word on them.
forest girder
Yeah, It clicked in my head one sec after writing it lmao
dusk current
No worries. 😄
long holly
do we know what pam's moonshine tastes like?
jagged pebble
depression
long holly
heh
vestal bluff
Whatever it is, we know it’s pretty strong
The Reader gets their vision all blurry after even taking a sip of it
long holly
i'm sure it's inspired by actual moonshine in some way
which is, you know, grain alcohol
stray jolt
for realism, you should get drunk before playing the next rite
long holly
i.e. strong
honestly, my first playthrough, i drank that stuff as much as possible in an attempt to talk to pam more
but i guess everyone did
vestal bluff
Except me I guess
I only knew about the moonshine thing and the bell thing after people here mentioned it
vestal bluff
The Rukey jump-scare is the superior jump-scare
south plover
Haha it scared me because I didn't know how loud tf bell would be
forest girder
Where is the predemonified Soliam Murr image you wer talking about?
vestal bluff
There’s an illustration of him in the Book from when he was younger
I’ll see if I can find it for you
long holly
"predemonificated"
vestal bluff
It’s a technical term
sturdy swallow
i swear it was his section of the book of rites
but i cant find it
oh i cant post pics
rip
is it the weird eyes-crossed-out man? i had no idea if that was murr or khalymer tbh
nvm that passage only mentions murr
vestal bluff
That's Murr yeah
sturdy swallow
i thought i remembered seeing a picture of pre-demon murr at the bottom of one of his chapters, with dark hair, but i think im misremembering the illustration of post-demon him and applying it to the bottom
somehow my brain shrunk the image and pasted it somewhere else
lime mural
Ha, look at his haircut, what a nerd.
sturdy swallow
pyre's artstyle in general is gorgeous i love everything in it
i envy jen zee's ability to do art in that way
vestal bluff
Hey, everyone’s got pics of themselves from when they were kids that they’re embarrassed by nowadays
tranquil ivy
he looks like he cuts his own hair
timid silo
Anyway everyone takes +3 charisma during demonification. That's how it is
torn bolt
+3 strength +3 charisma
tranquil ivy
add some Constitution and baby thats a paladin
torn bolt
🤔 paladin jodi.........
tranquil ivy
you know it in your heart to be true
vestal bluff
I can see it
Ranger Hedwyn, Paladin Jodi, Rogue Rukey
Shæ's maybe a Cleric?
Gilman's gotta be a Fighter
timid silo
Paladin Oralech would be just him sitting in a corner saying "no" 😂 not a good class fit for him either
lime mural
Oralech is a dark knight if it were ever possible.
tranquil ivy
definitely oathbreaker
i dont see jodi as a barb
she never rages
gilman is a fighter!
he's a cavalier XD
i see Hedwyn as the actual wizard
lime mural
She's been quietly simmering for 16 years.
It boils over a little when she's introduced to Pamitha.
stray jolt
rhae is most definitely a ranger in my mind
tranquil ivy
shes a warlock :P
vernal harbor
I second Ae as druid
tranquil ivy
faelock
stray jolt
rhae is related to nature but she's a lot more physical i think
stray jolt
could work
lime mural
I don't know, when I hear "ranger" I think armed, and while I really don't think Fae would be a pushover, I also don't see her carrying weapons.
vernal harbor
barbarian?
lime mural
There's nature monks, right?
stray jolt
one time i tried to translate each scribe over to dnd 5e as a subclass it failed
vestal bluff
Jodi's too calm to be a Barbarian
stray jolt
i found it, i put the alpha-chief as the monk
vernal harbor
ranger?
stray jolt
rangers can cast spells
vernal harbor
Jodi can cast, technically
stray jolt
they just don't do it as much as druids, but i don't see druids jumping around as much as rhae
lime mural
Demons in Pyre don't seem like they've become particularly magical.
stray jolt
if you're talking purely mechanically, jodi would be a tanky barb
vernal harbor
and imps explode
torn bolt
consider: chae is a divine soul sorcerer or a cleric
she's physical, but she's very dex-y and about evading, not so much raw strength
also, her scribes connection
vernal harbor
(and if DnD classes don't fit, how about Fire Emblem classes?)
torn bolt
i don't know enough fire emblem classes but :0c
also scribes as a dnd party absolutely work
tranquil ivy
i think i could nail them all down pretty well
stray jolt
the scribes def have a different class feel to them than the current nightwings
the harpy scribe is a cleric based off lore
torn bolt
gol golathanian: battlemaster. i will not be taking any questions.
ha'ub: hmm............ranger? sorcerer?
soliam murr: either a bard, or the dmpc
triesta: cleric
ores: champion fighter
jomuer: rogue/ranger
lu sclorian: artificer/wizard
milithe: wizard
stray jolt
bards are most definitely tariq and celeste :v
torn bolt
oh yeah for sure
timid silo
They're not there yet, somebody's gotta be the bard 😂
stray jolt
the reader is the warlock, the patrons are your friends
torn bolt
soliam murr i could see as the bard as the compelling center of the group gathering everyone else
but also.............fallen emperor who needs protection is the escort quest dmpc
@stray jolt i would also love to see your character sheets :3c
vernal harbor
tariq and celeste are there during every liberation rites though, buffing both parties
oh right the scribes' generation
torn bolt
tariq buffs the nightwings, celeste buffs the challengers...........
tranquil ivy
i actually used Tariq as a very rough base to play a swords bard for a one shot i was in
vestal bluff
Jomuer's weapon is a legendary sword
vernal harbor
I need to check if the scribes had tariq and celeste, I know that the true nightwing era had
tranquil ivy
the Bard's name was "Vagrant"
vestal bluff
Idk if rogue or ranger is right
torn bolt
but he also fights with speed and cunning rather than strength
like dropping a giant dung ball on your enemy? classic rogue move
vestal bluff
True, yeah
stray jolt
it was a very dumb idea from a long time ago: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/187458596559257600/692474673765679435/unknown.png
it never got past the random scribbles era
(my favorite is how one of the defining points of the beyonders is "green")
mortal viper
do people actually play with/as DMPCs
tranquil ivy
i have a DMPC of sorts in my game, yeah
stray jolt
eh, i don't know enough about homebrew to do it
tranquil ivy
she's a fledgling dragon that the party rescued
vernal harbor
dmpc would be like, attacking with fungal infections or such?
(self note: usually it's poison, sol)
mortal viper
i mean, specific things usually work as dmpcs but as a dm i wouldn't do it for extended periods of time
even if you're like, great at RP and you can avoid spilling or obviously hiding certain things it's just eh
vernal harbor
it's fair if both sides dmpc
if rhae were in fire emblem would she ride pegasus or wyvern?
torn bolt
hmmm...........idk that much about fire emblem, i just started three houses
tranquil ivy
pegasus
but also
Fury, my dragon, works as a DMPC because she's basically a big smart dog
she wants to eat, and she wants to fight
and she is a very good girl
not a lot of mental gymnastics for me to do
mortal viper
that's just a regular npc played by the dm(?)
when i hear dmpc i think a character with class race backstory etc
coral turret
omg jodi Paladin and gilman fighter...but like one with super high dex and low strength 😂
I love when a character has like horrible stats for their class
Terrible builds are so fun to rp
forest girder
So I finally got around reading the entire book
So the Scribes knew that the rituals would come to an end
torn bolt
yeah..........tbh i like that
maybe they knew the commonwealth wouldn't be perfect, just that it would serve its purpose and improve on the empire
before something else came to replace it in turn
that's a comforting thought
timid silo
They lived at the end of a cycle, they knew how it is...
forest girder
Let me copy the relevant text
--------------------------Page 71 - Isle of Khaylmer
The traitor Khaylmer Rope-Caller! Whereas he brought about our Empire's fall; whereas he nearly claimed the life of our dear Soliam, we forgive him.
We have forgiven him; we give a certain thanks to him. For he has played a vital part in the stars' plan. If not for him, then we, the Eight, would never have aligned.
We never found the Rope-Caller. He fled into the sea, towards an Isle, which we knew well to avoid. 'Twas there we think that Khaylmer's Tattered Mantle finally did him in, among the wild imps.
Should the stars ever converge above that Isle, it shall be to signify that their long dance across the skies is drawing to a close.
torn bolt
i'd kill for a physical copy of the book of rites
coral turret
Same it would be a lot easier than playing just to read it or try and find online lol
stray jolt
so, is the circle on the cover like
one of these things: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/85/7d/b5857d9188fbac77d51509aa0af1f49f.jpg
jagged pebble
YES
long holly
omfg i remember this
vestal bluff
My old copy of Snakes'n'Ladders had something like this on the board
Yeah, you press down on the plastic cover which squishes the bottom of the container down, and then it pops up
It made rolling way louder than it had to be with all the rattling around of the die in there
stray jolt
that but the dice is the celestial ball
mortal viper
What kind of ancient artifact is this
coral turret
What if the beyonder orb was a magic 8 ball
But like merch you can buy
Has sandras phrases on the little thingy inside
Radioactive so it glows
long holly
i would totally have a magic 8 ball that has snarky Sandra quotes in it
burnt cargo
radioactive is most definitely a pro
sturdy swallow
enondyas!
jagged pebble
i thoguht you were trying to spell monday for a minute there
sharp rivet
there is! search "New Sahrian" in this chat it's been posted multiple times
tranquil ivy
yeah the whole game is good fodder
the scribes, the titans
the downside in general
coarse spade
pretty game
very good yes
some of the songs (including from bastion) made it as tavern songs in my campaign
Cursed concept: seeker or celestial warlock whose patron is literally brighton
sturdy swallow
n0
i kinda wanna use gmbinder to make a race document for nomads, demons, curs, savages, harps, saps, bogs, and uhhhhh wormy
what are they called
torn bolt
wyrms
wheat glade
Wyrms?
sturdy swallow
ah yes
ty
i could not recall their actual in-game name ._.
is the only real difference between savages and nomads is that the former are moon-touched?
aside from mechanical differences
jagged pebble
its basically like
this person doesn't fit in
YEETITH INTO THE DOWNSIDE
tranquil ivy
wyrms and curs might be odd as a playable race
well, wyrms for sure, curs if they dont have opposable thumbs
sturdy swallow
hm
i mean they apparently have flexible backs
mayhaps they can manifest their aura for item interaction purposes?
that feels a tad handwavey though
tranquil ivy
even if they could, thats a far cry from the basic assumption of autonomy that is afforded a playable race
sturdy swallow
sure, but it's definitely interesting. not every race should bipedal humanoid imo, y'know?
torn bolt
i think it's fine, clearly wyrms are able to put on their own raiments and armor
mortal viper
wyrms are usually able to put on their own raiments and armor
gloomy grotto
I feel like Pyre could be a solid 5e Campaign. It'd be easy to reflavour combat abilities into the ball abilities
forest girder
Before or after the Eldritch Abominations got their Eldritch asses kicked?
coral turret
It would be fun to make that the objective instead of rites
Like the titans are back or whatever and you’re the new Nightwings time to kick their ass and ascend to gdhood I’m doing so
So that you can reinitiate the ritual of the rites for the next generation of exiles or whatever
All you have to go off of is like one faded book and sandras orb (in the TRAGIC case that the reader didn’t take her, or maybe stayed exiled and then passed away leaving her orb)
Tariq exists as your guide for info dumping, a mysterious beautiful minstrel who comes along with the sick wagon you and your team stumbles upon. But instead of reading the stars you gotta kill these hell beasts that are tearing up the land and threatening your lives!
and learn about the last Nightwings and scribes in doing so, like slowly but surely the book reveals pages to you, giving you a hint as to what you should be doing
It would be pretty fun to homebrew stats or tweak existing dnd beasts into fitting the titans!
plus so much potential to just explore the downside
If I had a ton of time on my hands (which I eo$ and was patient/motivated to (which I’m not) I would wanna make up maps for it all in a program like inkarnate
It would be hard for me to make up a character tho bc I love the ones in the game so much I’d just wanna play as them lol. But if I did I would totally wanna be a fluke like Tizo and I’d make a slug who’s able to read or something totally bizarre like that
They’re like little slug goblins and even tho Ron is insane and annoying I love his design and I’m so intrigued by these wretched downside residents
orchid galleon
I feel like most other supergiant games could be made into 5e campaigns
I mean, it’s not actually gonna be like Hades, but the game did inspire me to start making a campaign based on Greek mythology
coral turret
5e and warhammer are the only tabletops I’ve played but I’ve also done vague d20 based roll rp, and I hear pathfinder is a lot more rp friendly and lends to flavor more than dnd, but I wouldn’t know! The point is, even tho I’ve only played pyre so I can only speak for that, I think a lot of media is easy to convert into an rpg! Especially a fantasy video game with such interesting lore. It’s just like writing ig
stray jolt
if you're converting pyre into an ttrpg, dnd 5e would not be the right one
dnd 5e is very much focused on combat, which doesn't really translate well since one of pyre's defining points is that there is no combat
unless you're just taking the setting into account, or just using pyre as inspiration
a system that's a lot looser than 5e would be better equipped to handle a full ttrpg translation of pyre
(which isn't to say 5e isn't a good system! but imo it doesn't have the right tools to fully emulate a pyre campaign the way i think one would want)
orchid galleon
A fair point
loud dagger
fun fact: i had a caffeine-fuelled night and typed out ~600 words of a blades in the dark hack of pyre
torn bolt
ooh?
loud dagger
which is very early days and not ready to playtest yet, but i'm hoping it goes somewhere so i thought id mention it here
yeah! i've got 9 stats figured out, but no moves yet but i'm pretty sure those will come from the Masteries pretty easily
frozen isle
The general moves should be easier to figure out at least
Hopefully they don't require more caffeine fueling tho
loud dagger
haha, that's a good point
i can dm ppl the googledoc if you're interested in checking it out!
frozen isle
Same here!
sturdy swallow
yeah i was thinking something like maybe yslach is reforming
regarding a real bbeg
5e isn't that focused on combat tbh
so i wouldn't say 5e isn't the "right" one. no such thing exists. there are, of course, perhaps better choices, and 5e has some weaknesses that couldn't cover all of pyre, but saying its not the "right" choice is misleading. @stray jolt
also leah can i have access to the doc :o
tranquil ivy
isnt that focused on combat? 1/3 of the books that make up the core rules are explicitly things to fight
sturdy swallow
5e?
tranquil ivy
yeah
torn bolt
compared to previous editions 5e is a lot less focused on combat
sturdy swallow
eh. imo combat can be focused a lot but there's not really that much substance
combat has rules that need explanation, but they're fairly easy to grasp and there's little confusion
tranquil ivy
O_O
sturdy swallow
if you look at pathfinder combat or 3.5 combat, it's a lot more emssy bc there's so much you can do
many people, myself included, find 5e to be more geared towards roleplaying and 3.x to be more geared towards combat
tranquil ivy
i heartily disagree, but this isnt really the place for that discussion
sturdy swallow
i mean it's a meta discussion of how one could convert pyre to a ttrpg
im curious to hear your thoughts
tranquil ivy
i dont think edition wars and arguing about 5e contributes to a conversation about converting pyre
sturdy swallow
oh you meant in that sense
sure
arguing specifics over editions wouldn't help with that
i was mainly rebutting that 5e wasn't the "right" edition because it has weaknesses
tranquil ivy
for pyre specifically, i think one of the biggest considerations is something i brought up previously: do you want to preserve what the point of pyre is (i.e., the Rites), or just use the setting?
sturdy swallow
well personally it depends on when is the campaign. if i were to dm, i would most likely run a post-pyre setting
i would draw on some aspects of the rites, mainly auras and the uh
what are they called
the stats. presence hope glory and quickness. but regarding the actual rites themselves? probably not
however, if you were to run a pyre setting when the rites weren't discontinued, someone mentioned an apocalypse engine system
i forget
tranquil ivy
PbtA
sturdy swallow
yes. ty
tranquil ivy
well, Powered by the Apocalypse is more a framework
there are a bunch of systems in that umbrella
sturdy swallow
yeah that's what i meant
something about a hexagonal grid?
it seemed like they were trying to best mimic the actual rites themselves
and in that case i would concede that 5e wouldn't be able to reach that level of complexity for rites
tranquil ivy
i dont know if its about level of complexity. Any system can be hacked with additional rules and systems. But i think a system (5e) whose backbone is turn based combat would be ill equipped to handle a team sports action game. There are certainly better systems for that
sturdy swallow
well if we're running the assumption of combat rules being reskinned for rites, its going to be more work certainly. even 5e being a d20 system inherently may put it at advantages or disadvantages for trying to best mimicv pyre's rites.
tranquil ivy
yeah, i agree there
cause i mean
taking a step back, we dont even need to use pyre as an example
just look at normal basketball
what games would you think emulate that best
sturdy swallow
i know legitimately nothing about basketball lmao
tranquil ivy
its like pyre but without the wizards
sturdy swallow
ah
stray jolt
i’d like to make a point that if you have to bend and hack a system in order to accommodate a setting, it’d be easier to just use a different system :v
coral turret
I can’t imagine a sport tabletop rpg just bc it’s so turn based, but I’m sure there is a way to turn the rites into a nonviolent sort of fight and just retool all combat into movement and aura blasts
fading dove
when you check out pyre's discussion and it's people trying to make it dnd
actually i can't talk bc my world is literally based on pyre's lore...
jagged pebble
its ben like that a lot lately
fading dove
huh
vestal bluff
Pyre's got an awesome setting and lore for rpg campaigns for sure
Probably 'cause Pyre's an awesome rpg
heavy hill
plus even ignoring the rites mechanically, it has a very dnd feel
a group of misfits wandering around, thwarting (assuming they win) a pompous aristocrat, an evil cultist, and whatnot
jagged pebble
manley is pretty easy to beat compared to the other 2 antagonists groups
heavy hill
well yeah
jagged pebble
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I HAVE 50 HOURS ON PYRE BUT I ONLY REALIZED NOW THAT BARKER'S COLLAR HAS THE 2 OTHER DOG HEADS ON EACH SIDE TO MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE CERBERUS
jagged pebble
stray jolt
alternate universe where cerb goes to the dark side
dark phoenix
why didn't the greek accept the mohawk biker edgelord dog as their new cerberus lore
mortal viper
greek here, will forward the idea to zeus later
coral turret
Was streaming this for friends and they saw barker, then called him the ‘deviantart dog’ for the rest of the game
jagged pebble
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dark phoenix
HAHAHA
jagged pebble
he doesn't deserve that title
dark phoenix
if barker was a fursona he would have to be at least 50% more neon green, it's a fact
jagged pebble
ok
fair
brisk whale
Barker (among other aspects of Pyre) definitely influenced what we're doing now on Hades. Among other things, Thrash Pack was an exciting and memorable piece of music, and when thinking about Hades we were like... what if we start from something like that this time? I think our best work is often the result of when we're having the most fun making what we're making.
Barker was also voiced by Cyrus Nemati (for the gibberish 'Sahrian' speech), who we never worked with before that role. He was fantastic -- also voicing Volfred and Almer. So we were eager to work with him again on Hades, where he is Ares, Dionysus, and Theseus.
mortal viper
Barker and Volfred are the same person?
thick carbon
Dionysus is like if Volfred retired and got really into rave culture
vestal bluff
Ares is Evil Volfred