@tender loom I don't think there's any concept art floating about but i do have these:
https://soaringsparrows.tumblr.com/post/167753271150 - 360 degree ground view
https://soaringsparrows.tumblr.com/post/167767587600 - 360 degree water view
https://soaringsparrows.tumblr.com/post/168057344135 - 360 degree flight view
https://soaringsparrows.tumblr.com/post/168057917140 - packing/unpacking animation
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YEEEESSSSS
WE COME TO A TIME WHEN ONCE AN AGE THE EIGHT SCRIBES GATHER BEFORE UUUUSSSSS....
It surprised me only Celeste sings it, tho
DEAR READERS
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The more I replay Pyre, the more I want to just-
Forget that I played it and replay again.
My poor heart cannot take all these feels.
god yeah pyre is one of those games i wish i had never played so i can experience it all over again
Their journey began 🎵
really need to play Pyre
🎶 On a barren waste, where the reader arrived.. 🎶
🎶Afraid and alone🎶
🎵 When they arrived, the book of rites awakened the Nightwings.. 🎶
🎵 And ignited the fla-a-a-ame! 🎶
🎵 they followed the stars.....bound to ge ther 🎶
🎵 Strands in a braid 'til the end.. 🎶
🎵 we sing of the last 🎶
🎵 Of the Nightwings who 🎶
🎵 having broken the cycle, shall live on in song 🎶
🎵 Hedwyn was there.. 🎶
🎵 and prooooved to all that he was no deserter 🎶
🎵 He stayed true, 'til the end. 🎶
Lol I played the soundtrack when I was chilling with dad and he was dumbfounded when I said it was from a videogame
That one Hedwyn line purely hits you right onto the feels
I personally love the
🎵 Bound together 🎶
🎵 Spirits tethered 🎶
🎵 Strands unbroken 🎶
🎵 Scribes awoken 🎶
The part that always gives me the shivers is:
Now at the end
As we bid farewell and return to the stars
We shall find our way home
We shall find our way home
We shall find our way home...
Like-
Hearing Tariq and Celeste, both sing about how "At the end" they will also leave, just makes it all feel so bittersweet.
Really makes the parting just even worse.
COME BACK AND SING IT YOU COWARDS
Can someone help a non-native English speaker?
What do they say in the never to return of the final boss?
according to the wiki, it's the same as the OST version: https://pyre.gamepedia.com/Never_to_Return
That’s what I thought, but I wasn’t 100% sure
Good to know I remember a little thing about one of my favourite games
oh thank, you
Is there a noob chat for pyre? I've quit the demo 3 times (shameful), but I want to play the game since I've loved all the other Supergiant games
I think this chat can be supportive of all Pyre-playing efforts?
Yeah, people can help you here. First tip: do your best to cheese the AI. It doesn't react too well to quick direction changes. Second tip: win or lose, you'll get through the story and get an ending, so don't be afraid of failure.
Yeah, failure is to be expected. I had a run where I lost nearly every Rite.
And I suck at the game but had fun with the challenge so I used the "restart Rite" button a lot!
Never knew that button existed 'til I was playing True Nightwings mode, in which it's disabled...
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Despite being decent at this game, I've never actually gone thru a campaign without at losing at least once
I got through the game my first time without losing once, but juuuust barely. I would sometimes have 5 points in my pyre, and I would be like "I'm dead. okay. oh no. Oh I did it!!"
Always the greatest feeling when you pull it back from the brink
In one campaign, I was down to below 20 against Oralech the final time, but managed to take it
oof man, this game just causes anxiety. I love it
It's a ton of fun to play against people too
Really ups the pressure (in a good way!)
speaking of which
Reminder that the next Pyre community Rite Nite is tomorrow! Join the Rite Club server (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) to play with us and/or watch on Twitch at https://www.twitch.tv/lidsvids All skill and experience levels welcome!
Sandra wont talk to me anymore ;-;
Patience. Keep trying.
If pyre taught me anything, the solution to a friend not wanting to talk is to talk even more
if pyre taught me anything is that all crimes can be solved by basketball
"i demand trial by basketball"
who would win, Shaq or Jodariel
If Pyre has taught me anything-
Is that Sandra is wife material.

And in general Sandra is the best part of Pyre. I will die on this hill.
Is there any chance of a mobile version being released?
we've been begging for it to be released on the Switch... but you're thinking like on your phone?
Switch port would be absolutely amazing.
But I think the team has their hands full with Hades as of now.
Porting is usually handled by a third party, I think. If I was Supergiant, I'd still wait until Hades was done and port them at the same time
i know for a fact that transistor was ported to linux by flibitijibibo
and so was pyre
so it's not like they're against third parties
but finding and getting in touch with a third party to port your game to your standards is some significant work
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If you wanna see some world-class competitive Pyre played at the highest levels of skill, you've come to the wrong place, but hey, you won't find anything better!
We're a pretty casual community all told, really
I just love this game so much. I had to say it.
The music the writing the art the game itself.
It’s still one of the most inspiring games I’ve come across.
Thank you for this gem Supergiant ❤️
Yeah it’s hella unique and also damn good
DEAR READERS
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what time
3:30 PM EST
awesome
i'll be able to join this time
imma gush about pyre’s soundtrack and how it relates to the moon touched girl for a bit
so personally, i find that compound time sig (6/8, 12/8, etc) or triplet figures in general are a major part of pyre’s identity
(even in dread design, which is in 4/4, is still built in a way to emphasize a figure of 3 notes, going in a 3334 subdivision pattern)
and while i may just be a sucker for 6/8 and 12/8 in general, the constant feeling of three in a lot of the music really defines the game (and how it connects with triumvirates being three members 👌)
HOWEVER, the moon touched girl’s theme and all of her motifs meant to remind us of her are specifically 4 note patterns
even in Bound Together, clearly in 6/8, the moon touched girl’s section is played in 4/4 (or quadruplets if that’s your thing)
and i really can’t help but feel like that was on purpose, specifically because of who the moon touched girl is, an outcast person who doesn’t really fit in
and that this one person’s character can be so perfectly encapsulated in music by something as simple as an ascending four note pattern rather than the multiple three note patterns found everywhere is absolute genius
anyway, ///end gush
@copper ridge just a music theory nerd, though i'm hoping to take compositional classes when i'm in college
arguably, weird time signatures are more a Darren thing than a Pyre thing
but yeah all the characters definitely have motifs
I mean... 6/8 is not really a weird time measure
no it is not
but yeah it's very cool
I loved how it all came together in Bound Together
well what do you knw
just realised it while typing
bound together 💚
And how when celeste and the minstrel start singing you hear a duet
"rival bard" as she's known in the code
which is just a fun concept to think about in general haha
haha nice
"will be forever bound to compete in the glorious concourse of the Bards until the end of time!"
Tariq and Celeste play DDR against eachother to pass the time between Liberation Rites
who wins
Celeste every time
Until Tariq starts practicing with Rukey
Rukey strikes me as the kinda guy who's got serious rhythm
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i would LOVE tariq asking rukey to teach him to dance. AMAZING
that would be so cute
You know:
I bet Sandra has some really dope moves.
She got put into the Orb just because she danced better than Soliam.
Bound together compositionally makes more sense as 12/8 with the moon touched girl section being in 4/4 just because the change is small enough for a conductor to neither change how they conduct also makes it easier to read for the orchestra reading it, also cuts down the amount of measures needed by close to half
i disagree, actually! bound together, imo, is built in 4 bar phrases, and when i listen to it each bar is in 6/8 rather than 12/8
the 4/4 works regardless because it metrically modulates to fit 4 notes in the same amount of time 3 notes usually takes, so the conductor wouldn't have to change their conducting at all
it probably could work equally well in both, depends on the conductor and orchestra for what works best for them 
for me I would find it easier to read 12/8 into 4/4 for bound together
me, just thinking "song nice"
Same
Me: BOOOOUND TOO-GEEE-THEEEEEER

@stray jolt re: time sigs: it's all kinda arbitrary in the end. e.g. Music for 18 Musicians by Steve Reich "sounds like" it should be 4/4 but actually it's written in 1/4 at some points :P
every song in this game's soundtrack is just super enjoyable, i always get blown away by it
@long holly
Honestly though any of the songs blessed by Darren Korb and Ashley Barrett are on point. When Transistor came out I flipped my lid, finally a game I could get into and thoroughly enjoy. And then I became a die hard fan of all of the games. Pyre has been so good to listen to and unwind to while playing after a hectic week.
indeed
(I still play the heck out of Hades TBH.)
I bought Pyre on the 3rd of March and have played it for 3 hours.
I like it so far
where are you at currently
I've actually played it now for about an hour more, so that's 4 total. I just defeated Witch Udmildhe and the Withdrawn. So my next destination is the Sea of Solis
awesome
i guess you like pyre
hehe
I just learned about supergiant, got pyre like a week ago and have been playing/replaying it ever since 🥺 ITS SO GOOD
right? the gameplay is actually very interesting 🙂
What drew me is that it’s like, sort of a sports game? I saw a pic of it and thought the character design was interesting (LOVE sir gilman) and so I just shrugged and bought it after watching a trailer and hoooooo boy
Gd these emojis are so good look at him

Gilman is the most precious character in this game and he must be protected, always.
gilman and Joderial were a bonus for me. I played every SG game before and was blown away every time. Pyre lived up to my expectations and more
YES I love jodi too, so much. I mean all characters are gold but in terms of both characters and gameplay my favs were Gilman, Jodi, and Pam. Once her and jodi were willing to play together those were my mains
big demon lady
10/10
||She's old enough to have looked over a young Hedwyn when they were in the Commonwealth. 40s at minimum.||
Mae ftw
i was not prepared for logan to be so done with anything that i did in that game
chae forever
but i LOVE HER
the nightwings win, again. their adversaries must be dying of shame
i prob already said this before on here but if it's possible, someone should fine all the voicelines of logan being done with the reader
you should be able to higlight the message and anything you want to mark as spoliers option should appera
type /spoiler
also... any way to get a LAN or internet functionality on the versus mode?
Thank you!!
||Anyways, hedwyn had to have at least been old enough to fight since he was exiled due to desertion. do you think he was as young as the moontouched girl roundabout? Or younger? Also I agree with jodi being in her forties; she mentions being old, and isn’t it implied demons begin to age differently?||
I always called her Gae bc I loved hearing the Voice yell GAY!!
vaild
do the devs read here?
idk
why
tru
but there have been some people that are in the middle of pyre in this channel i believe
Still waiting on a Persona Q/Super Smash Brothers of Supergiant games with all of Logan's narrators butting in and arguing with each other.
Oh good to know!
yeah
||only just ascended one of my members for the first time||
did logan do all the narations in the games?
Logan is The Voice
but only on pyre? or other games too?
he's rucks in bastion and boxer or the sword in transistor
he's the narrator in Hades too, although that one doesn't show up as much
as well as several other Hades characters
Man o many talents
Logan played Rucks, Mr. Nobody/the Transistor, Archjustice Androbles the whatever, and now Hades and the Narrator.
(and other characters, but those are the "narrators" he's played)
i haven't gotten hades yet so i wouldn't know but if Logan isn't voicing some character in a SGG then is it really a SG game 
wow, man of many talents indeed
the naration of bastion was one of the primary things that made me buy that game
❤️ loved every second of it, lol
"And then he falls to his death. Ah, I'm just foolin'."
Logan is also Dalbert!
rucks has a voice that he could read a dictionary to me and I would listen intently
I'm just imagining Mr. Nobody and the Narrator really working AJ up so he's just constantly losing it while Rucks is trying to make everyone play nice.
boxer would definitely do that
and asterius from hades, and who else
question: how is nightwings pronounced in whatever language they're speaking in game?
what i'm hearing is either "Nastalas" or "Naksalas" or i'm completely deaf and it's neither
"Noxalas"!
ty
In Latin, this is literally "Nightwings" ("Nox" "Night", "alas" = "wings")
aaaaaah
(I think)
wow
ty for the insight
i think someone figured out what every triumverate name translates to
Is their language pure Latin?
it's got word roots from all over the place
Interesting! 
i would love to see the process of creating that language
Someone tried to make a dictionary of it, but it's not an actual official Supergiant thing
thats awesome
animalese?
Animal crossing Language 🙃 😂
Oh
i haven't played animal crossing
I love noticing how they call the reader variations of Ligaratus based off pairing it with like, ‘master’ or ‘darling’ or ‘dearest’ and also like their accents
Like Jodariel sounds a bit Slavic to me, and I know the conlang is inspired by a bit of Russian but it’s also just how she specifically speaks
Like rukey always rung Italian to me maybe
Yeah I read the book and she has been trapped for ||Fifteen|| years, she is in her forties lol
Oh there’s a book? Like an art/development one? Is it for just for pyre?
Nah, it's the roster screen that has this info
The Book in the game doesn't tell you about your exiles, it's a different screen in the Blackwagon
Oooh oh right I know what you mean
I’ve been trying to write a fic about pyre and there’s SO much info to keep track of
I’ve read the book like
Three times over and still forget all the names and places and such
Thankfully tho a lot of what I’ve read has been like, creative liberties or just furthering things that are left to speculation so. Yknow it’s all fun n good in the end
what's the fic about?
I wanted to explore what would happen if invoking the titan stars had darker consequences beyond making the rites more difficult! I have a lot of questions about the nature of the Titans, and also all the fics I’ve found thus far are primarily about oralech/Volfred and Jodi/reader or Jodi/Pam, which ha GREAT. But. I also want more gilman content, and I wanna expand on rukey and his friendship as well as give bertrude some spotlight! And Sandra, not that there’s a shortage of her I just love her 
Love all your options especially the Gilman and the Bertrude!! (...Gilman&Bertrude perhaps?)
gilman and bertrude is good! love the dialogue where she says a prayer for him when he's liberated :'3
Not to self-rec but I wrote some 2k of Tariq feeling the weight of the titan stars and Bertrude helping him out? Could be relevant?
Right?? Bertrude's out there bonding with the others while we're not looking...
i would kill for some bertrude&chae fic too
Gilman and bertrude as friends is so sweet bc she’s like, yeah he’s annoying but he is a little pathetic wyrm and I’m going to pray he gets everything he wants and nobody kills this idiot
Oh oh I am interested! Could I have a link 🤠
bertrude is such a great character she doesn’t get enough love, like I really respect the way she handled liking volfred and just. Also I’m in love with this end credit pic
Oh wait I can’t send pics here
Well you know the one! Where she’s with volfred smoking at a table looking at what he’s doing
Like ok queen didn’t realize your waist was CINCHED. Her hair is so cool too. Overall just a great design and I’d love to see more of her being long suffering but overall endeared by how loud gilman is
i feel thats she's underappriciated since you get her later in the game compared to everyone else (minus volfred)
Volfred spends a lot of time around even before you can play him
ye
I would've liked a little bit more about bertrude's business too
Yeah same! Would’ve been cool to have seen inside her hut and shopped...not to take biz away from Ron lol
there's a great bertrude&volfred fic on ao3, but i forget what it's called
Oh oh I am interested! Could I have a link 🤠
@coral turret https://archiveofourown.org/works/20389666 here! 😄 I still feel like a newbie writing Pyre character but An Effort Was Made
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the
Organization for Transformative Works
https://archiveofourown.org/tags/Big Bertrude *a* Volfred Sandalwood/works and there are three entire Bertie&Volfred fics on AO3 😭 we need more!
An Archive of Our Own, a project of the
Organization for Transformative Works
Thank you!!! we do! I usually trawl ff.net more than ao3 but since there was more over there I caved and made an acct
Not that I remember but granted I was, at the time, mostly looking for gilman stuff!
I always wind up loving the goofiest side characters and then can’t find any fan content of them bc of it
LOVE the scribes also not enough scribe content
I would die for Ores he seems rad as hell
I just really like all the wyrms a lot, I’m a sucker for little guys in any fantasy or scifi, especially if they’re like. Sorta hapless but try their damndest regardless
wyrms are good!! love those goofy wyrm on a strings
i think every single piece of fic on ao3 about gol or soliam was written by me or for me, lmao
Gd that’s me whenever I write fanfiction. It’s like, whelp no ones gonna do this so might as well corner that market
In fact I don’t usually write it too often; I like to write but I think what typically motivates me is just being unable to find enough of what I want whenever I happen to fixate on a work of fiction. Which again! Isn’t too often nowadays
if you wrote some good wiggly wyrms though i think people would definitely be interested!
I hope so! I’m a little late to the party but I’ve gotten a handful of friends interested in the game so they’ve started playing too, and since then we’ve all been working through supergiant games together lol. Next up for me is transistor
nice!
make sure you check out bastion at some time, that's tied w pyre for my favorite i think
glad to have you in the fandom!
I’ve heard it was probably their best work! and thanks glad to be here 🤠
bastion is GOOD
Yeah yeah yeah corner that market, we'll be here with bells on! I'd looove Ores content too! Gilman's a big fave
first Pyre fanart I ever drew was the wyrm himself. I wanna make a plushie one of these days!
a gilman plushie would be so good...........
If they don't cancel the November comic con over here (pessimism is probably unwarranted but it's the quarantine speaking), I'd love to go as Reader holding a majestic life-sized wyrm. It may not happen but right now it's the dream cosplay
yessssssssssssssssssssssss!!
gd what i would give for a gilman plush. wear it like a scarf
oh that would be awesome!
man yeah im paranoid about canceled events too...like i REALLY am hoping this doesnt affect pride, but i hope im not being too optimistic in saying maybe itll blow over by the summer, let alone november!
the wyrms look like there about a foot tall so carrying it around prob wouldn't be an issue
OOOHH thatd be so cool eva
In the Flame is still the best song on any videogame
Haven’t been able to listen to anything else but the games soundtrack
Iktf
Darren's too good
I once wrote a paper whilst listening to The Black Mandolin on shuffle
Pyre still has my favourite soundtrack of Supergiant's games
in fact I like pretty much everything about Pyre except the actual Rite gameplay
darren is king midas confirmed
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BY THE SCRIBES!
(we gather in their names)
I just beat Pyre. Omg great game!
did you free fae?
Yeah I did. I left myself, Bertrude and Pamitha
is there anything in the book about Tariq or Celeste?
Tariq says there is, but not really 
🤔 i dont believe so, from what we see in game, but tariq definitely suggests that he thought you'd know more about him....it makes me think there was things about them written, that surface yes or no depending on the reader the stars etc
There IS, however, this - lemme find the quote
· It was then the stars themselves showed us the way, delineating a great voyage 'cross the sea.
· Near-broken we became, but then, at last, a moon-lit vision... that of the Rites, the Rites! Thus, shall they say of us: The Eight Scribes gave their freedom so that we may yet have ours.

For me, this vision the Scribes received comes from whatever Celestariq were before they were Celestariq
ok good
i thought i was reading to quickly or smth and skimmed over it
omg.... i hadnt thought of it that way before thats SO COOL
also if wouldn’t the final rites always be on an eclipse since tariq is moon celeste is sun
That'd be so cool! Headcanon accepted!
HELL YEAH
oh my god that would be cool on both counts
'a moon-lit vision'...........i did NOT think of that
Tariq created rites so he can spend time with the bois
doesnt bound together also hint at celeste and tariq being celestial emmissaries?
"we bid farewell and return to the stars"
yea
I'd love to see either an animation or costumed performance of Never to Return featuring Tariq and Celeste. I always loved the idea that the music that plays is actively being sung and performed as the liberation rite proceeds by those characters.
They are as instrumental (no pun intended) to the rites as anything else, would be nice to see more focus on them. Could just be the music lover in me talking.
there's also that bit about Tariq having weird eyes that are like the book or ylasch? it comes up if you do all the stat increases
You mean darker sclera than the iris?
i don't remember, but if you complete the stat boosts there's something about Tariq and his eyes at the end
i would prob remember is i could see an image or quote
You look up to see Tariq there. You had not noticed him.
He looks up at you, with his strange eyes, a color not unlike the bindings of the Book, and he smiles at you, faintly.
The moment passes, and he turns to go about his business.
He leaves you there. You realize you are clutching the Book to your chest.... You manage to pull away.
That's upon finishing all the Studying of the book you can do
yeah yeah that's what i was talking abt
the binding of the book is made from yslach
Why is this game so good? Ugh. Even after my fifth playthrough- it manages to tug my heartstrings.
even after so many playthroughs i learn new things hot damn tariq
and your terrifying eyes
i'm all here for eldritch heralds honestly
even better eldritch bards
I maintain that Bertrude was sitting on a goldmine and didn't realize it in time (or did away from the spotlight, as she often does)... why fixate on Sandra, who was a regular person back in the day and whose historical knowledge is limited to stuff she learned inside her orb, when Tariq is right there, eldritch and Scribes-made
I love how he's the sweetest guy ever written... and also very much alien
Why fixate on Sandra?
Because she is the best. And she has that sass.
I do not think Bertrude's goal was to romance Sandra... 
Pssh. That is everyone's goal, obviously. /s
now, to be fair, for a more objective view of the scribes you'd have to consider both viewpoints
neither sandra "soliam murr snuck into my house and personally removed my veggies from the crisper drawer" nor tariq "if i say one bad word about the scribes i'll explode" are going to give unbiased info
duality
i wish there was more fan content of the scribes and heralds interacting
there's so much potential there
Sandra:
"Soliam Murr literally STOLE my coffee. I then tried to murder him. Now I'm blind."
that was exactly how that went
now you got me thinking of that parks and rec skit with the broken coffee maker
idk why
I've come to make an announcement. Soliam Murr is a stupid demon Emperor. He tried to steal my Scribe Snuff. That's right, he took his demon horns out and he tried to steal my Scribe Snuff, and he said his Celestial Orb was "THIS BIG" and I said that's disgusting.
So I'm making a callout post in my Book of Rites. Soliam Murr, you've got a small Orb, it's like the size of this Imp except way smaller. And guess what? Here's what my Orb looks like!
explosion noise
That's right baby. All stars, no edges, no corners, look at that it looks like two Curs and a Blackwagon.
He took my Snuff so guess what, I'm gonna banish the Nightwings! That's right this is what you get, my SUPER LASER AURA!
Except I'm not gonna banish the Nightwings. I'm gonna go higher. I'm banishing the MOON!
HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT KHAYLMER, I'M BANISHING THE MOON YOU IDIOT!
You have 23 hours before the aura drrrrrrroplets hit the Downside, now get out of my sight, before I banish you too
this
this is a work of art
please for the love of god and all things holy someone pin this
who did you liberate
the easier question is who i didint
uuh
bertrude volfred and tizo
everyone else got liberated
and i accepted the reader's liberation
oh wait
spoilers
its ok
spoilers are fine in this channel
I still cri
I love how even the exiles you don't return home they still find purpose in the downside
Bertrude does her trading/enchanting, volfred teaches reading and ti'zo is doing his thing
I was soooo hardstuck on who to pick each time for liberation rites
I still miss how the full gang was assembled and they were all having fun
Then one by one the exiles left making the cart all the more lonely
Also, am I the only one that kept the items from the Sandra trials as mementos and didn't sell them off?
It just felt too bad
yeah :'(((
the toughest choice in this game for me isn't who to liberate
it's who to throw the liberation against the Fate with
i usually tried to prevent them from getting to the liberation rites so i wouldn't have to not let them win
I know for myself, the Withdrawn and the Essence are the hardest for me, so it's a gamble to face them in the 'regular season' - if I win, chances are I won't see them in the Liberation, and so I have a better chance to free my guy. But they're the hardest ones, so if I lose, then there's a higher chance I see them again in Liberation...
Makes even the 'no-pressure' games scary
But yeah always let Dalbert win
💜
Same
But I'll replay on true nightwing so that I lose more often
Sportsball is hard enough for me to lose games without throwing so i left it to chance
There is a tutorial at the start
maybe i shouldnt play on the hardest difficulty
maybe a few tricks from the pros here to help though?
characters are slow
and uh... i dunno i cant get the ball in the hole
wish i could reverse the pass order, losing a guy cus i have the ball is frustrating
'Reverse the pass order' suggests that you're using controller, right?
yep i lost again, lost 2 guys in a single wave and couldnt stop the ball
im on keyboard
shoulda jumped...
pressing space makes it go right to left
if i pass
i cant pass back to the person i was just controlling
I played Pyre with kbm but used extra buttons
leading to certain death 100% of the time
The way I pass is to hold down space, move the mouse towards the person I want to pass to, then release the space bar
I have no idea how you play it with them tbh
yeah the other way of passing is way better
wait its based on where the mouse is?!
Yeah
I had one side button bound to passing forwards and one backwards
Yeah!
are you guys talkign about throwing or "passing"?
Passing the orb from one Nightwing to another
passing a ball from a character to another
ye
yeah
i think there is a default order
but if you hold down space while moving the mouse it sends it to a specific person instead
GL
prevailed!
Nice
jumping OP
can confirm
isn't that just flying
yeah and its epic
fly and be rid of the mortal earth
become a scribe
this game is so frustrating
what controls do you use?
I find it much better using the setup that has wasd to move
also, don't be afraid to turn down the difficulty
YOU CAN USE WSAD TO MOVE?!
there's a bunch of options in controls
you have to go into controls to change it
there's like 3 setups, and imo the default one is the worst
I actually prefer using only mouse cus I was able to get everything mapped to mouse and I can play it from my bed
I used mouse to aim
pyre must be their first game, has archaic default control set up
and also used side buttons to pass
tbh without side buttons to pass this game seems way harder to control on kbm
oh
you are babey if you think pyre is first game
i keep losing to the gang of curs due to the slow pass speed, and i cant just drop the ball to kill the ones charging up a wave, if i jump they seem to swap faster than i land and kill me when i get to my destination
and i cant just wipe them all cus they respawn in 5s
that's how you beat jumps
you can throw the ball at them to make them lose their aura
iirc you basically just want to dash and go past them
dash into them and die?
I second the throw ball at them and then banish them to get ball back
try changing controls 😛
you can also just lose to them
yea
throwing the ball takes like 2s to charge the throw tho
^
oh
and like sometimes that's the correct option for pyre throws as well
get a dunk, get a tiny throw, and you're way up
like obviously you'd rather the full throw
but its a lot less safe
ye
i suck at pyre btw 😛
unless your ||gilman or rukey||
oh same dude
i've lost like half of the games in true nightwing mode
i tizo cheesed it, didnt want to
hes like a better jodi but with less glory playstyle wise
tizo just fits you better, I had trouble with tizo and preferred bertrude
There’s so many characters so anyone could find one that fits their play style
JODARIEL WITH THE DIVE INTO THE PYRE FOR THE VICTORY WOOOOOO
nice
big gurl
yeah jodi is usually a really good goalkeep
Indeed, I really enjoy rukey. Super fast and a talent to not me banished when he's plunged into the pyre
is there romance in this game?
but i prefer the savage role rather than the nomad tbh
Yes
You can romance ||sandra||
i kept jodi until the second to last rite even thou i SUCKED at her because
B i g demon woman
Jodariel was why I bought the game
valid
hows that?
i bought it because it was like $5
Jodi was an amazing surprise
the strong silent typ
i am a simple gay
if i see big strong demon woman
i gotta have it
Initially I wanted to pass because neither visual novel nor ball game was my thing but then Jodariel spoke and I bought it at almost full price
It was 20% off I think?
nic
im prob gonna gift pyre to a couple of my friends the next time it goes on sale (prob hades full release)
id like to see how you guys play cus i cant win for the life of me
the throw takes 1s too long, i cant jsut throw it on the ground and it makes me so upset im super salty, dunno how you guys can win
remember you can pass a lot
you can just throw it on the ground
but a big part is use your stamina
I dunno, the Race-car that is Gillman really carried me.
don't be afraid to try to just shoot the enemy
i also like not taking the orb until i've taken out most of the enemy
since you're so vulnerable with it
if you play someone with a big aura you can dither around the orb on the floor and banish the enemy when they get close to it
im on the 5th rite and ive won once
Or pass the orb to enemy rushing you for extra bm points
running is usually the quickest thing to do
i did find that there is a weird lag on passing too so i tend to avoid it
passing takes a while if you use the normal pass
because it has like hold and stuff
i recomend just using pass forwards and back
i use controller
normal pass feels way wonkier
these controlsdont exist
pass forwards and pass back totally exist
im conviced we're not talking about the same game at this point or you got a QoL patch
post your control menu screen
i've never done the normal pass because i'm pretty sure you can't on controller
that or you never need to
cant post pictures
pass to next/prev are what i'm talking about
also imo the wasd presets are way better
give those a shot
having pass to 1st 2nd and 3rd looks so convenient
ehh
it is
but its odd sometimes lol
but yeah, i strongly recomend WASD controls
it's so much smoother
yeah those mouse controls look pretty jank
i tried wasd controls . theyre really stiff
stiff?
how are they stiff?
huh
they feel so much more fluid
you can change direction super fast
maybe i shouldnt have jodi in the front
jodi is super slow
yeah
try leading with rukey or hedwyn until you get more used to the game
big damage
i did have a better time after learning the basics with characters easier for me to play
the damage isn't as important as being able to douse consistently
yeah getting it in is better than not getting more damage in
liek i said earlierthat feels cheesy
if you want to win does that matter?
you kinda can't have it both ways
also the earlier fights are supposed to be easy
i wanna play with the characters i like, and that seems to be a problem with the game
i think it's a matter of figuring out how the game works and what the quirks of each character are
you need to do both to win with a given character
it took me a while for some but i figured out how to play all the characters in a style that worked for me eventually
which was pretty satisfying since i'm not terribly good at sports games to begin with
ill try wasd again
i've noticed that you've mentioned a couple of times that you don't like cheesing the game with strats you think are easy
but what is easy definitely depends a lot on the individual
and there's nothing wrong with playing a game at a lower difficulty if it's more satisfying
you've said you're playing on Hard as well iirc
which means you kinda have to cheese
it's not really cheese
it's cheese in the same way spin is in cricket, i.e. not at all
i guess that makes sense, im sorry for my outbursts. its unfair to be mad at a game ive never played. Especially when i start on the highest avilable difficulty
yeah that's a dumb thing to do
as someone who's done it
(i need to give brutal legend another try)
As I gathered food there is barely edible even if you cook it, so barely any difference in the end.
tizo scribe passage is... only mildy frustrating
totally havnt been trying to 30 mins
they just jump into my pyre from literally half the arena and im just one lil imp XD
that one is one of the trickier ones
you technically don't need to do it, i think
but also keep trying, ti'zo's reward is totally busted
best item in the game
the scribe trail one?
Which one is that?
the one you get from ti'zo's scribe trial
at full upgrade it ||makes your zip and flutter cost 0 stamina||
I never upgraded that because i got rid of ti'zo early
yo whaat
i never bothered with upgrading talismans rly
for me the most frustrating passage was jodi
its definately worth it
same
wait you can upgrade special talismans?
yea
as long as if it gives you a rank, you can upgrade it
eugh, never ever thought that I can do it to them
Not likely I'm ever returning to Pyre, but eh ^ I guess so.
I got this game for a friend and he’s had the same problems getting the hang of controls and game mechanics. He doesn’t really play video games tho, I just thot he’d like it bc it’s nonviolent and has a good story
I had similar problems trying to play with a trackpad lol. I play WOW with a track pad and have been for years just bc I’m lazy and cheap and not really like
A gamer so I never found the need for a mouse
But I managed! Replaying on true nightwing mode tho? WOOF
I already had a play through where I threw all my rites just to see what would happen and it looks like it’s going that way again
I wanna do all the studying I can do again just to get that aforementioned Tariq interaction
Useful information for a fic I’m writing 😈
AAugh there’s also a gilman interaction I REALLY want but am unsure how to get, where he finally gets pissed enough at deluge to the point that he’s like ‘DONT even start
‘
Fic info... for Tariq... and Gilman... 👀
👀
YEAH it takes me a while to write and it’s already a bit long but I’m workin on it! I think I might’ve mentioned it here it’s just exploring what would happen if invoking the titan stars invoked the spirit of the titans— cause it seems like a bit of uhh
Dangerous, possible blasphemous thing to do!
But I always wondered how my reader felt about the Titans. Their nature, lot of questions! And tariq’s true nature as a celestial being isn’t something I’ve considered!
or the extent to which scribes have. Lasting influence, or power and control. Like, they’re revered almost as deities but I wonder how true that really is! I wanna weigh the readers neutrality against sandras deserved vitriol against the scribes, and against the reverence we see some of the Nightwings have
Also I love gilman and I think his story deserves more spotlight. I REALLY relate to narratives about learning self worth and such
hell yeah post a link to anything you write because i want to read this 👀
Same!!
I will! 🤠 also quick random opinion poll: My credit union doesn’t do custom checks but should I get tweety, Olaf, or lady bugs on my checks?
lady bugs
lady bugs
lady bugs
Olaf got 5 votes and lady bug 5 it’s a tie
lady bugs
I wish they had custom checks so I could like. Get my own face or maybe gus fring or a dog taking a dump. Something absurd and horrible
OH tie breaker for lady bugs!
lady bugs...
I will def write a prompt with Sandra and reader.
+1 to ladybugs 🐞
This is making me want to play Pyre now (I have a backlog of games to get through) but I'm a little scared since I've been off it for some time now. I might be staring down another freedom trial.
You should!
Might as well during quarantine
I’ve been using the time to write and play dnd with friends
Ok so
I did go with Olaf bc it got more votes
But lady bug goes out with honorable mention
the solo for knights of the sea so fast
i have to slow it down to half speed to actually comprehend what the notes are
@coral turret We also have DnD on the go, and I'm sure my friends will be on my case about whether or not I've prepped the next Ravenloft session (I have not). There are only three of us so we each run a game and homebrew a crazy amount of things. It gets interesting. The ...omg, I can't remember the name of Pyre's setting... would be an okay setting for a DnD game. This begs a question from me...does Ruky have opposable thumbs?
Rukey?
if they don't have opposable thumbs then how do curs dress themselves?
I’ve been running a homebrew one shot, first time as a dm! Second game is this Saturday! It’s been great so far but I will say there are six players and that’s too many for me :/ I would love to do a pyre themed campaign tho I wild totally play a wyrm
I love thinking about how intelligent species that evolved without standing upright or with opposable thumbs might adapt culturally
Like how they’d design objects made to be used by the mouth or paws or talons or tails
i think rukey has a bit of difficulty with the mask in an early cutscene, so it's possible that they don't have thumbs
I love the hints we get about that, the curs and the wyrms have trouble with the rairments or comments about how absurd the wyrm fighting style is
HOW THE HELL DOES GILMAN OR THE WYRMS PUT ON ANY CLOTHES
Squirm in! Bang against the walls and ground till someone’s like hey what the hell??? And decided to help
Maybe they gotta tag team it
I love that it never says gilman has trouble with the helmet but deluge always seems to
i mean i can see putting the helmets on with their tails
maybe they inch into it and use their mouf for the rest 🥺
It’s so funny when the voice calls their appearance sad
well
the voice is kinda like the same voice in the back fo your head that tells you your a bad person when your not
@urban hollow Just jumping into the end of this conversation, so I probably missed some stuff (someone may have mentioned this already), but I was talking with a bunch of people a couple weeks ago about Pyre-based DnD
the downside would be a really cool dnd setting
Oh good! That’s the name! I didn’t load up yesterday. I ask about thumbs because my friend found a homebrew supplement called Dungeons & Doggies! It has stats for playing dogs as characters. I haven’t read if there are paw issues or not but could work. I can’t remember what Rukey’s paw actually looks like (can he pinch his chin?) but curs could have an over developed dewclaw that works like a thumb. Just move it down a bit. 😉
Dungeons and doggies is great
God imagine rukey with human hands
no thank you
My imagination is endless but only for bad things
Actually that ones not too bad. A dog with hands is a bit more ew. Look up DnD moon dog. They have hands.
I still want a Rukey figurine.
Not to keep bringing it back to the wyrm boy but I saw this on Twitter today
Oh wait I can’t send pics lemme find link
i just realized Through the Valley is in 5/4 time signature
odd time signatures in game osts make me so happy
4/4 is overrated
4/4 is also known as common time for a reason 
pyre d&d would really fun tbh
sounds cool
but i no clue how dnd works
you can like pirate the player's handbook and read it for the rules
tho tbh i think im personally in between choosing systems
idk if i wanna go into pathfinder or stick with 5e
damn now i wanna try converting pyre to 5e
I think Pyre would be fun in a system like Fate that's more RP focused rather than one where it might get bogged down by all the dice rolling mechanics.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy Pathfinder/Dnd/Tabletop in general, they just can sometimes result in turns that go on for what feels like eons, though this is partially determined by your party size as well.
pathfinder i could def see dice rolling bogging up mechanics
Unless you're playing with a party full of people that are like, seasoned with the game and have a very firm grasp of all the mechanics, time not spent advancing their turn is going to be spent questioning how things work and trying to get a more solid understanding of the game for newer players, which have populated most of my recent games.
5e i think is more streamlined in that regard. i don't think i would convert liberation rites exactly but i think the lore would fit well. turns don't usually take that long, although action economy can get messy sometimes. it would be harder to balance rites since it has to be an even fight, but that's alright.
It's cool that more and more people are getting interested, though. I can just get impatient in those like, 6 player games where every turn ends up taking near 45 minutes because out of game conversation is occurring.
that's fair
i've been looking into greyhawk initiative for inspiration as how to best smooth out players taking too long for turns. its not perfect but i like the direction its going
Liberation rites could get repetitive if a player just goes full agility
but even then, sometimes i think i wanna go to a diff system entirely... idk.
if i were to dm in a pyre setting i think i would just replace liberation rites entirely and use combat for that instead and maybe sprinkle a couple elements in
I hadn't heard of the Greyhawk initiative, I'm reading through it now and this seems like a way more enjoyable approach to combat.
yeah its interesting
tho the way 5es bonus action economy is kinda wild so 🤷
i think i like pf 2e's approach
i might mix and match
actually greyhawk would mimic liberation rites the best
I like 3.5e but a lot of things were still broken/op.
since you're effectively reacting to how the opponents are doing each and every round
I haven't played Pyre, Bastion, or Transistor yet but they're all sitting installed.
I'm debating on playing them in order or just like, all at the same time
pyre and transistor are verrrry enjoyable
hm
well i cant comment on bastion but i think focusing on one game at at ime would make it more immersive, especially since sgg focuses on indirect storytelling and worldbuilding
I'd have to start with Bastion, then.
And somehow pull myself away from Hades and Animal Crossing.
rip
I played Transistor first because I got it for free
Then I bought Bastion and Pyre and Hades and played them all back-to-back
You could say it was love at first Rite
I bought Bastion and Transistor on sale back in the day because I heard they were good games.
I remember when Pyre came out but I must have just not been gaming much at the time.
I also was without a computer for a while.
Pyre also was probably not as popular as the others
Then Hades was the first I actually played, and I was interested in it because I love rougelites and mythology, and there was a negative review about the skin color of Ares so I bought it to specifically spite that one guy.
I dumped like 40h it into in a week. That's a fulltime job.
Now I'm at 100+ I think.
I'm at 95, dang.
But the thing is, Pyre is the one out of the other three I kinda am most interested in because of the sports and visual novel aspects
I may break what is kosher and play it first
That's totally fine
I could just claim I'm playing in reverse order
Since I started with Hades
Hahaha
I will say Bastion is shorter
wait someone complained about ares' skin tone lmao?
Yeah it was a racist negative Steam review claiming that they, uh.
pyre is like a visual novel mixed with wizard basketball and its super fun tbh
"n-wordafied" all the Gods
Hahaha
Yeah I was like "screw this dude".
And then fell in love with the first run
And now I'm just impressed because it's Early Access and I'm at almost 100 hours with plenty of unseen content.
They literally live way up in the sky
Directly in the sunlight
Of course they're going to have dark skin
😛
And they're, y'know, Mediterranean in origin.
oh wait i just realized that their skin tones probably correlates with how much they frequent olympus...
why did i use they're
anyway
Haha, so what did their skin look like when they were born, then?
right click
edit message
I just push the up arrow key.
they were probably all tan-ish tbh
It'll enter edit mode for most recent message sent.
might be time to move here #h1-discussion !
You are welcome for this gift of knowledge.
It's great for the ninja edits.
Like those edits that are required when you realize the typo as you push send.
Could also click the dots on the right side of the message
if anyone starts a pyre campaign pls invite me
i might try using gmbinder to start with the races
I'm going to start Pyre rn and give it a trial go
I'm always prepared to emotionally invest in completely fictional events and characters
Pyre will spoil you with gorgeous art
pyre's lore is honestly so rich for a game that technically takes only a couple of hours if you just go straight with the wizard basketball
You might not enjoi Bastion as much afterword. 😛
I've never really judged the quality of art in a medium that is technically art in and of itself.
If that makes sense.
that makes sense
Like bad animation in anime, for example, has never bothered me.
i separate the art in a medium and the medium to analyze both
Kinda irks me when people complain about it really, considering the industry standards there and how it's typically not their fault, but that's another conversation entirely so I digress.
as long at its not entirely cgi im usually fine with horriable animation
Yeah
yeah usually comments about the art in a medium require a lot of nuance because of all the factors that go into quality
Also I just have no taste
with that said though, each character is visually distinct in pyre and the amount of detail in everything is breathtaking
As long as the story provides, everything else could be dog crap as far as I'm concerned.
lmao same
regarding mockingjay's comment that is
also the background art in everything is amazing. i could spend hours staring at it tb
Yeah even the first loading bar is pretty lol
The Blackwagon traveling across the sea as Tariq sings is peak mood
Okay I'm starting now
Yolo'ing straight into Heightened
just dont do true nightwing mode it hurts
actually wait i dont think you can at the beginnig
I can't it's locked
yeah
the difficulties go "extremely easy, very easy, easy for a little bit, W H Y"
^
Controller or M+K?
@tender ridge I've sort of spoiled Pyre for myself by listening to the soundtrack too much before buying the game, but Tariq singing In The Flame still hit the hardest
hmm i used mk but i think people in the rite lite server prefer controllers
rite nite?
i forgot
I used a controller for all of their games
Mmk
Bro the music made me so emotional; it’s sick when you’re playing and hear a characters theme come in, and then later you hear it evolve into part of a song in harmony with the other themes
You could totally get away with KBM for Pyre though
talon sheath going into sky dance was emotional
I preferred Pyre with KB+M because outside the rites I really didn't like the controls
Classic opening screen where you have to push a button but it doesn't prompt you to so you sit there waiting for something to happen
Good thing I'm conditioned so I only felt dumb for a second
Dang those are cool masks
They asked me to read a book and instead I cleaned up all the spiderwebs.
I'm already in.
Clicking things and being yelled at for it is PRIME what I look for in a game
The bell
Pams moonshine
The bone xylophone and floaty orb gem Gd I’m like a mouse in a cage I love to click a button and see things happen
yes
So
Rukey took the ringing part with him when he was liberated 😦
If you win in this game, you're denying people their only chance at returning to, essentially, livable society?
Just a bit of clarification, Rite Club people prefer controller because you can have 2 of them at a time playing multiplayer, while you can't have 2 keyboards & mouses at the same time
I myself prefer keyboard
I don't feel good about that
what it called
Downside
At least they have Blooming Onions
You get exiled there for your crimes
fkdjsfkldsjalf
the commonwealth should just call the downside Australia
Come on down to Downside Steakhouse
Pity they didn't go for the Aussie accent for everyone
Nah, they're from the US
oh? interesting
wonder why they went with zed, you don't see that often in america
Hades is the first game they've made with accents
(I think)
Usually everyone's got a mostly-American accent
yea
ah
i didn't even know darren voiced zag for hades
also the semi-language they created for pyre is so darn cool
They're using the British accent to represent people who live on the surface, vs the American accent for people from the Underworld
n o k s a l l a s
MAGARATUS
"Noxalas" = "Night wings" in Latin! (Nox = Night + Alas = Wings)
oh wait is it latin that they've been speaking
Inspired by
ah
Sahrian is its own conlang
Yoooo
But it's not complete really
It’s like partially inspired by it as well as other languished like Russian and Japanese I believe
sahrian? :o
Lol *languages
The full name of the Commonwealth is "The Commonwealth of Sahr"
And before that was the "Sahrian Empire"
ohhhh right
yeah it seems super simplistic at first but there's actually a ton of strategy in rites you can use lmao
The story is awesome on its own, but the actual game part of the game is absolutely fantastic
As you go through the game, it gets faster and more complex and so much fun
The larger the character the more points is taken from the Pyre?
Usually yeah
I'm in love with Jodi already and will do every choice possible to appease her
we probably all did
Gd same
There's just something about a woman that looks like she could cradle me like I'm a wee babe
I think someone determined that, assuming Hedwyn is 5'7", then Jodi is like 6'7" 8'7" or something
Nice
it's not just that, but how she puts up a brave face but she's actually caring behind that
that reminds me. i should totally buy the jodi t shirt lmao
i wonder if there's like third party merch for pyre 
i was debating between the shirt or anniversary poster
I have a shopping list of all the gaming T-shirts that I want 😅
i got the signed poster but i keep forgetting to buy a frame and hang it
speaking of which the Supergiant online store is closed 😮
My gf has the shirt and its awesome
is it? damn
may it return in glory after this pandemic is over
GOD THAT PHRASE MAKES ME SO SAD
:((((
no matter whos saved it always hits me hard
||But Oralech doesn't get that line even if you send him home 😦 I can only accept it||
wait what
i would think she would just stay the way she is
yes
Oralech did
well, my Oralech de-demonified, but I don't remember my Jodariel going through that, maybe she did
Yeah, if Oralech goes back, people nickname him "the demon doctor", and that sticks with him even after his horns recede
I don't think people meant that in a mean way tho
am i misremembering or did oralech ||uhhhh if he doesn't go back he goes over the waterfall?||
Haha you can name the girl Bae
That's one possible ending
I have a save right before the final liberation with jodariel liberated, I'll get you if Jodariel turns back or not in 10min
Cale be careful of this channel this is a spoilers-enabled zone
I don't mind
oh
yes oralech goes over the waterfall
you will when you get to end
There's a way to save him tho
Since your last checkpoint is before the final liberation rite, I replayed that one several times
HOW DO I STOP THE LAGS
Nah, spoilers have never ruined anything for me.
