as long as everyones having fun it doesnt matter, but its better to have a game supporting you in what you want to do and youll potentually have more fun doing that
#pyre
old breach
safe adder
it doesn't have to be dnd. I just meant a tabletop rpg in general.
the simpler the better really
civic birch
I think the Powered by the Apocalypse system is good for collaborative storytelling, and fairly simple
old breach
apocalypse world raw is a bit hard on new players but some spin off ptba systems could work, my advice would be similar to SableGear and try out Fate Core. shop around based on what you have in mind (and can find online reasonably)
safe adder
I've played the Cypher System, that's really streamlined
pure bluff
so, there's actually one person, @rare garnet (btw sorry for pinging) whom has actually designed a tabletop-esque pyre game in #fan-works , so you can just look them up in the search section of discord (or just DM them in general, since they own the document with it)! @safe adder @torn bolt
unfortunately this peticular channel doesn't allow sending in pictures, so you'll have to search the thing for yourselves
rare garnet
Oh yeah! That campaign I made is finished now, the group I was playing with let one of their favorites of the other teams go free after they won the last game of the Final Set (before the rites fade). It was really fun!
There's a lot more to that system that I still haven't posted. Maybe I should post some more of it.
torn bolt
👀
oh please do
i'm curious, were you playing a game as the nightwings during the last cycles of the rites?
rare garnet
No! I took some liberties in the narrative, and spun it away from the 'Reader' perspective. A lot of Pyre's design is focused on a singular entity (the reader) having a lot of control in the fates of a bunch of close friends, so I pitted this version of the rites without the concept of the nightwings/reader. Instead of a single character/caravan acting as an absolver, I instead focused on how they each came together before seeking freedom from their exile.
The two times I played this campaign, I was also playing for groups that had never witnessed the game itself, so I kept characters/narratives/teams out of my game, for the sake of hopefully inspiring them to play the game it was inspired by in the process.
I've got eight files/pages of my initial Pyre DnD campaign. I worry about clogging up fan works, though... One moment.
placid cosmos
you could make a google drive?
rare garnet
Yeah! Just cleaning it up a bit. I threw in some extra information about the Classes that some of my players chose. I like to work out what each of my players are looking for out of their characters and I provided a quick overview of some of the Class Skills they received as they progressed. There was also an upgrade system to skill checks and other bonuses that was implemented, but that document is far too messy for me to share.
Yeah! Just cleaned it up a bit. I threw in some extra information about the Classes that some of my players chose. I like to work out what each of my players are looking for out of their characters and I provided a quick overview of some of the Class Skills they received as they progressed. There was also an upgrade system to skill checks and other bonuses that was implemented, but that document is far too messy for me to share.
wide river
feed me the sad content
onyx forum
oh??
civic birch
Which is that the dimension exiles are banished to is the one Ys#### (and the other titans?) were originally from
Banishing sickness isn't just dissociation syndrome it's like ... exposure to whatever Energies that place still possesses
And whatever entities may yet reside there ...
onyx forum
😱
lime mural
that makes sense
they seem to lose stats just by being in particularly.. grumpy environments
mild falcon
The downside is a place that actively resists colonialisation
wide river
personally i always thought banishment sickness was like...... being banished so often that you kinda don't come all the way back properly
one foot in the real world one foot in wherever the heck it is you go when banished
just takes a while for the rest of the body to catch up and go back to normal
civic birch
That too prolly
wide river
Why Not Both.jpg
lethal cipher
This is my favorite song from this game and I can't seem to stop listening to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C37PAE0CzTg
Does anybody else have a favorite?
upbeat sage
The Mourning song
stray jolt
will of the scribes but acoustic
torn bolt
path to glory
lethal cipher
Oh yes, I had forgotten that one. That one's great too 👌
torn bolt
i started listing second favorites and realized it was about a third of the soundtrack fmshdhdkdb
path to glory is so Bouncy !
lethal cipher
Not that there's a song that isn't good in this soundtrack
vestal bluff
Depends, right?
No holds barred, gotta be Never to Return
Of the normal Rite songs, Glorious Tradition (Fate's theme)
stray jolt
has someone tried layering all of the versions of NtR on each other
stray jolt
did it sound good
vestal bluff
er
I've done this just for myself, but someone actually posted it on Soundcloud
That wasn't me, I can't take credit there
But I can find it
lethal cipher
Do it!
stray jolt
oh boi
vestal bluff
Again, not mine! Give me no credit for it!
stray jolt
ahhh
vestal bluff
Love that it's tagged as Religion and Spirituality
stray jolt
never to return is a religious experience
love how the voices get louder as soon as the chorus comes in
i mean...... it's not awful
lethal cipher
Well I suspect it's all of the versions just added together with the magic of audacity or some such
stray jolt
i-
civic birch
HEY THIS SLAPS
dusk current
Does.... does the entire thing work???
civic birch
CATCH ME VIGOROUSLY HEADBANGING IN THE COFFEE SHOP
spark cloud
i had to chop a bit off space jam at the end
dusk current
I'm in a crisis.
spark cloud
but yes otherwise it works so well i have a conspiracy theory that darren composed it to fit space jam specifically
dusk current
...I have the power to ask that if I want to?! Though I want to say in advance, I definitely would not share the answer because that'd spoil the fun. 🤐
spark cloud
it's okay sgg needs to keep its secrets
spiral osprey
hey jan??
spark cloud
oh that....works less well
spiral osprey
gkjdfhgkjdf
spark cloud
it kinda desynced towards the end
lethal cipher
Someone shared this with me, I don't know who, but I just thought they should know that it's released today: https://materiacollective.bandcamp.com/album/exile-a-tribute-to-supergiant-games
plus it's worth listening to
thick carbon
Hey space jam and pyre is a BOP
thick carbon
gol bless you
vestal bluff
While we're on the subject of Never to Return...
https://materiacollective.bandcamp.com/track/never-to-return-p-a-r-t-y
stray jolt
the scribes smile upon you
brittle oyster
rites but its a disco party
brittle oyster
stray jolt
pyre but the rites are dance battles
mild falcon
Jodi doing a breakdance
stray jolt
the voice beatboxes
old geyser
Idk why, Jodi is more of a waltz person in my head
civic birch
"The Silver Star burns bright over the Nest of Triesta."
me: OH WIFE? OH WIFE TIME? OH WIFE???
vestal bluff
Of course the dude with the name “bird” says that lmao
Also you and the dude above need to Rite for the right to have that name
fluid flax
Okay, so that, 'All Never to returns at once thing,' in the parts where everything is indistinct really gets me, because that's probably what it, in universe, sounds like to everybody but Volfred and the Reader. And that's hitting me hard.
civic birch
- absolutely, 2) i am an entire lesbian, 3) birds of a feather flock together
spiral osprey
bird triumvirate
civic birch
caw caw
fluid flax
'How your Triumvirate go, The Reader? Pretty good, it doesn't seem. Next time, you invite Pam'
vestal bluff
Also, I wouldn’t say Never to Return in-universe gets all jumbled up like that. The exiles probably just hear it as a song in a language they don’t speak, same as us
fluid flax
Well, yeah, but my point is it's about as intelligible to us now as it would be to them.
Which is to say, utterly unintelligible.
Like, there are words in there, but you have no idea what they are. Occasionally you pick out 'who shall rise again,' except, of course, they still don't know what it means
placid cosmos
all those memes,,, made me realise how much i love pyres soundtrack
onyx oar
hi, not sure if this is the right place to ask, but apparently something's gone screwy with my display settings in Pyre and now whenever I try to set it to fullscreen my secondary monitor won't stop flickering and the performance of the game is absolutely awful
would someone know how to reset settings without losing my progress?
blissful trench
if you're using Steam, I think you can change the launch options for video from the Steam browser/library page?
onyx oar
there were some launch settings in the FAQ on the steam discussions page, but they didn't seem to help
I was able to force some settings through the nvidia geforce experience launcher that seems to have fixed the issue, though
thanks for the help!
onyx oar
well in case anyone was curious about my technical issues it turns out the major culprit was I left my steam link on downstairs and my PC and it were fighting
but on the plus side I'm a rite away from true nightwing run
naive girder
Loving Pyre
got to my first liberation
Hedwyn is my favourite character thus far
I freed Jodariel though
mild falcon
Freeing jodi first is more popular than I thought
young folio
yknow I feel like true nightwings is this super hardcore mode that only a few people do so I feel bad for like, getting the achievement for completing it by losing every match
onyx oar
well, from what I remember reading, that's kind of the point, that people would automatically pull the plug whenever they "failed" and so they needed something to push people to accept they could fail
and even, in fact, if they failed all the time, they could accept that and move on
so not so much a "super hardcore" mode as "here's an incentive to stop save scumming, ya nudnik"
vestal bluff
There’s a speed running tactic that involves just that lol
Lose every match as fast as possible ‘cause the goal is to complete the game ASAP, rather than achieve some objective
onyx oar
huh, can you really lose matches faster than you can win them?
vestal bluff
On True Nightwings mode, you can enable all Titans right from the start, so yeah, you definitely can
onyx oar
cheerfully accepted
mild falcon
I wonder if it's faster to win than to lose on the easiest diff
spark cloud
one of the titans that lower your own pyre health
midnight hawk
now that it's pride
does anyone have that post that was aj saying oralech and volfred are gay
heavy hill
#fan-works someone did that\
naive girder
Is there any way to max out everyone so I get the backstories of them?
I missed the backstory of Jodi and im quite disappointed about it
naive girder
yeah
young folio
well, if you dont liberate anyone...
civic birch
asjdkhfldfjhg that'd do it
naive girder
(also trying to get a good ending lol)
civic birch
you can also get a good ending if you lose the first lib rite
alternatively, you get hedwyn's backstory in the first cycle, then liberate him
young folio
but yeah you can get it in another playthrough
or ask for a screenshot here, which im sure someone has
naive girder
i dont see myself doing another playthrough in the near future. will probably just google it
civic birch
(god jodi's backstory/crime is one of my favorites)
(i mean is it because i'm in love with her? yes, but,)
naive girder
i got hedwyn's backstory (i think)
am i missing anything with him if i have him freed?
anything major, at least
he's my favourite character in the game so far lol, so im not sure if i wanna have him freed
civic birch
well, you'll miss something with everyone if you liberate them in the first round
young folio
i have the game installed so i can get you a screenshot probably, but not the convo that triggers it unlocking
civic birch
hedwyn has some good later-game scenes
but if he told you about Fikani/his harp girlfriend, you should have unlocked everything, yes
civic birch
oh no rip
young folio
anyway, here it is
naive girder
ah, thanks
im probably gonna liberate ruckey next. gonna try to get his backstory before then if i can
then hedwyn
midnight hawk
if you want rukey's backstory you need to go against the dissidents
onyx oar
you very much can do a second go around
but in terms of rukey I don't think you get barker's backstory if he's not there?
sorry I think I got that the wrong way around
naive girder
i mean, the second liberation trial
im essentially trying to maximize the amount of content i can get on my first playthrough
then im probably just gonna look up the rest of the backstories and stuff i missed on youtube afterwards
since if i ever do a 2nd playthrough, it wont be for a while
naive girder
I got Rukey to tell me about his backstory
is there another part to his backstory, or do i have it all?
safe adder
that's it, each character has one scene to fill their bio
stray jolt
tizo goes with accusers, bertrude goes with withdrawn
naive girder
Odd... I faced both the Withdrawn and Pyrehearts twice, but havent got the backstories for either Gilman or Bertrude
pliant sigil
no one:
me: pyre turns two next month
🎉
spark cloud
🎂
pliant sigil
throwback to me replaying the pyre trailer just for that small bit of In the Flame
onyx forum
who goes free...who remains....YOU decide
when aj talked for the first time [i cant find the pic but you know the one of marina steping up to the mic like >:3]
pliant sigil
(aj voice) payah
heavy hill
papayah
pyre with fruit
regal heart
Testing new internet for parsec multiplayer https://www.twitch.tv/doomhammer25741
naive girder
So, I'm at the very end of the game, and I let Oralech win
what is the outcome of the options between
Letting him decide, reaching out, and manipulating?
What changes?
mild falcon
Your ending, oralechs ending changes
naive girder
Figured that
I figure reaching out lets him save me, letting him decide he chooses himself
Not sure what manipulating does
just tried and errored each one
stray jolt
you want the answer?
naive girder
worked it out
stray jolt
oh
naive girder
Just beat the game
Amazing
Loved it
Very excited to try Hades when it comes to Steam
wide river
for the record...
Reach out: ||You reach out to Oralech’s mind with your sweet Reader Skills and just... be there in his head. He thinks it over and willingly decides to offer you his chance at freedom. You can take it and be liberated or refuse and let him be liberated.||
Let him decide: ||You don’t reach out. Oralech decides to take his shot at liberation and goes free.||
Manipulate him: ||You use your Reader Skills to basically mind control him into giving you his freedom. You go free, and Oralech, knowing his freedom was stolen from him one last time, kills himself in his epilogue.||
civic birch
i always understood 'reach out' as like ... ||not just observing, but offering your own perspective; but not outright manipulating. like 'hey, i understand what you're going through, here's my counsel, if you want it'||
(at least that's what's most poignant/appropriate for my Reader :P i also think it generally makes sense, though)
wide river
yeah
civic birch
jeez i didn't know he still died in 'manipulate him'. it makes sense but. oof,
oralech needs a break and a nap
wide river
yyyyyup
if you reach out he’s fine, if you manipulate him he offs himself
what really really sucks about that ending also is the fact that everyone else knows what you did
wide river
fun fact
manipulate ending is the only one in which celeste double-checks with oralech that he definitely wants to give up his chance at liberation
every other scenario she’s just like “ok cool”
civic birch
...
i can't communicate the expression i'm making right now but it's like. sincere horror. oh my God,
dfhjklfshfjdg god i'm imagining celeste making eye contact with the reader as she's asking this
i know what you did
spiral osprey
yyyyyup
but clearly there's no Rule against it
otherwise she would've kicked the Reader down the mountain in a flash
which makes one wonder if it's ever happened before
civic birch
hhhhhhhhhhhhhh
spiral osprey
can't imagine there haven't been desperate or power-hungry readers before
wide river
also the anointed character looks at you “with astonishment” instead of “unspoken understanding”
civic birch
Oh No
wide river
so even they know what you did
civic birch
yeah, especially in the days when Reading was more common ... i'm certain it's happened before
wide river
it particularly stings when volfred is your anointed lmao
civic birch
MM! OUCH!
yeah, especially because he's also a Reader
so he definitely knows what you did
... did the possibility ever even occur to him.
he can be manipulative, yes, but he's also not evil
wide river
well, he does memory-wipe manley a bit
spiral osprey
just a bit
civic birch
just a lil
mild falcon
thats what oralech thought happened the first time...
mild falcon
he thinks erisa and volf are working together for some convoluted reason
makes sense to him
civic birch
erisa also died
mild falcon
maybe he thinks erisa got manipulated?
civic birch
i mean, i always understood his blame for Volfred to be ... feeling like Volfred abandoned him
that Volfred didn't search for him
especially when volfred turns up again with the new nightwings, like, oh, you replaced me that easily? nice. real slick
not that Volfred ever acted or conspired against him
... also i'm sorry preemptively for what i'm about to say but gad tsundere oralech.
it's not like we were kindred spirits or anything, b-baka ...
wide river
dumped and replaced with a younger, prettier boy 
civic birch
hjkfldskjghkjfgh
spiral osprey
always a leo tho
civic birch
you're right but you shouldn't say it
spiral osprey
volf has a type
spiral osprey
revo-leo-tionaries
wide river
volfred/hedwyn is a cursed ship
civic birch
you're right but now i'm also thinking about that b99 gag
wide river
my boy
civic birch
'ew, it's like you're dating your teacher' 'i know, it's so hot'
-- that came out wrong
spiral osprey
we stan a volfriqalech ot3
spiral osprey
"are you a doctor" "no but i traveled with one extensively once" "..." "if you know what i mean"
civic birch
(reader voice) no, i see you as a BOTHER figure,
spiral osprey
brooklyn 99 memes truly apply anywhere
wide river
i sent so many b99 quotes to incorrectsupergiant
civic birch
i have likely reblogged most of them :P
i went on an incorrectsupergiant pyre tag spree at one point
wide river
Volfred: And now it’s time to send in our cute little secret weapon.
Reader: I’m ready, Volfred. I love the nickname!
Volfred: No, my kin, not you. I was talking about Ti'zo.
Reader: Oh, right, obviously…
Volfred: Over the past month, I’ve had him trained to douse pyres. And now, boy, it’s time to make Daddy proud.
Reader: Yes, sir!
Volfred: …I could not have been more clearly talking to the imp.
spiral osprey
volfred and captain holt was a parallel just waiting to be made
civic birch
oh For Sure
ALSO HJDSKFLHKJHSLDKFJHGLKDJFSHG
(volfred, holding ti'zo and the messenger imp) you have disappointed all three of us
lendel but it's 'he's over there dazzling some psychologists'
spiral osprey
i cant remember who we had for that one ghdjfj
wide river
volfred
spiral osprey
oh good
wide river
john mulaney quotes are also good for pyre characters
civic birch
john mulaney quotes are good for everything
civic birch
hedwyn/fikani and any of the bits where he talks about how badass his wife is
oh no go go go sparrow!
onyx forum
god this was a good backread
oak valley
I want to have beaten Pyre without actually having to play it.
It seems like a super cool story and soundtrack to experience, but everything about it gameplay-wise seems wholly made so very much not for me.
vestal bluff
Well then just play on Easy and you can win the matches fairly quickly to get them over with
You can adjust the difficulty at any time, too, so if you want to lose for some story purpose, just set it to hard for that match
regal heart
||test||
stray jolt
that's what i thought too, going in, but it turns out the gameplay's a lot of fun and i got kinda decent at it
regal heart
Also for Oralech, ||If it’s a very close match he can also give you the chance at freedom if you just let him decide||
vestal bluff
Arkatox, if you'ven't played thru the game before, don't read what's beneath that spoiler
regal heart
Since they were talking about Oralech earlier, only like.....9hrs late to the convo
vestal bluff
ah, yeah
oak valley
The visual novel aspect also very much does not appeal to me.
young folio
that sounds like it’s just not the game for you all around 😅
oak valley
Yes. Yes it does. But SGG is also like my favorite game studio so I feel genuinely bad that I haven't played it.
heady karma
For what it’s worth, I thought I would hate the gameplay but I enjoyed it after I got used to the controls
vestal bluff
As someone who's a huge fan of the Rites, let me tell you that it's something you gotta just try before you judge
heady karma
^
vestal bluff
It's a really unique style of 'combat' or sport, and it's a ton of fun
there's not really an 'elevator pitch' for it, so you gotta just trust that SGG did indeed work their magic again
(and they did)
oak valley
I tried it a few years ago because I thought I'd love it.
Well, because I thought I'd learn to love it.
I didn't get to the point. I wasn't prepared for all the visual novel elements. If it was just the sporty sports then maybe I could've gotten used to it.
I have cognitive issues that make reading extensively very difficult. So, add a bunch of reading to a game and suddenly I hit a major roadblock.
vestal bluff
Ah, sorry to hear it
Best I can say is that there are some playthroughs out there in which the streamer will voice-act each character out there for you
But when you're playing, if you make different choices than they did, there'll be parts you haven't seen before, which you'd have to read, but the main thrust of the story stays the same
oak valley
I also don't like those kinds of choices in games. I actually genuinely don't like visual novels.
heavy hill
so you hate every part of the game
don't play it, then
oak valley
Well, I haven't. I think you're skipping over the context of what I was saying, but okay.
heady karma
It was a recommendation not a comeback/ defense of pyre
wide river
[raises hand] i'm late to the conversation but i just want to counter what was said earlier
it does not ||have to be a "close match" for oralech to let you go instead of him||
heady karma
Cross examination begins
lime mural
hey. i just got pyre from gog but it crashes on startup? im using ubuntu 18.04 and the problem is the same as here: https://www.gog.com/forum/pyre/fatal_exception_during_launch_on_ubuntu_1804
vernal harbor
are you using Wine for installing and using games in ubuntu or?
spark cloud
what do imps smell like
midnight hawk
🅱ad
pliant sigil
Probably like car exhaust
civic birch
These [Jamaican fruit] bats don’t have much of a smell individually but when snuggled together they emit a fragrance comparable to perfumed soap. HEY GUYS THIS IS THE CUTEST SENTENCE I'VE EVER READ,
spark cloud
awwwwwww
midnight hawk
put some jamaican bats in your soap bottle
spark cloud
the power of bat cuddles
civic birch
;o;
These insect-eating bats [hoary and red bats] are among the most beautiful in the US but have the unfortunate (albeit very faint) odor of fish combined with urine. ... unfortunately, it checks out
spark cloud
one billion bat cuddles are in this tube....... use it wisely
civic birch
i Wanna believe that imps have a like. unexpectedly not-animal smell though. like some of these entries on this list are ...
spark cloud
i must pet an imp tummy
civic birch
```the unmistakable smell of a Brazilian free-tailed bat – only it wasn’t a bat, it was corn tortillas!``````right before take off, male Brazilian free-tailed bats emit a scent that smells like a bouquet of flowers.````burnt oranges (under stress)licorice combined with road tar(under stress)warm fruit jam and of courseperfumed soap`
midnight hawk
imps definitely smell like licorice combined with road tar
spark cloud
"why do you always smell like burnt oranges" skrrrrrrri (i'm always stressed)
vernal harbor
isn't a perfume sampler called imp ear
what was it called, from the black phoenix alchemy?
I can't find Ti'zo's ears though, maybe they are like bird ears
civic birch
secret imp ears ...
lime mural
@vernal harbor not using wine. gog says the game supports linux natively, although i have no idea why it talks about dlls in that case. i just downloaded the shell script that has like 6gb from gog and it seemed to install ok. then it crashes with the missing lib.
vernal harbor
and you did download and install the linux build I assume?
onyx forum
https://xkcd.com/2158/ speaking of xkcd, tariq
weak meadow
civic birch
oh we've had this conversation
one person in here, i forget who, built a system from scratch
a few other people have talked about DnD hacks, or hacks for other non-DnD systems
... I only know @torn bolt is working on a D20 system currently, I don't remember anyone else, but I know this conversation has happened 😅
young fjord
mellow saffron
not sure if this belongs here so i apologize if it doesnt but has anybody had this issue with opening pyre? it tells me it cant initialize my output device. i've messed around with my audio settings and even reset them to default, my drivers are up to date and i did also re-install the game as well.
https://imgur.com/a/qDFdaHr
i've been having issues where discord crashes my audio drivers in the past so im not sure if that has anything to do with the problem but it hasn't happened in a few days.
spiral osprey
a cursory google says sometimes an issue with AudioSrv can be it?
And suggests opening task manager, going to the services tab, finding AudioSrv, right clicking and restarting it
spiral osprey
no problem!
mellow saffron
i was having trouble finding the solution online haha
spiral osprey
yeah, i wasn't sure that was gonna work since it was on a unity help forum but it seemed reasonable ^^;
glad it helped!
mellow saffron
mhm! thanks again :D
vestal bluff
Hey guys, if you're interested in playing Pyre online against other Readers today, come join Rite Club! (https://discord.gg/XHTtNGe) If you're in North America, the very generous @regal heart is hosting folks here for an evening of Rites, starting in just a few minutes! We've got a livestream on Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/doomhammer25741) and a Parsec party (https://parsec.gg/p/wvDV89) ready to go!
heavy hill
this is what the ost was missing
mortal hemlock
why
midnight timber
I always liked Ron's noises, I once asked to to be quiet to see what happened and I felt awful. It really helps make shopping feel less empty, and in general I liked Ron as a character, i felt bad for him though...
civic birch
yeah, I like his noises, but I also get that dealing with him in person would be ... oof
"I chime in with a falcon ron noises"
heavy hill
ron is that guy that everyone is friends with but nobody likes
torn bolt
that one late game event where ron tries to hitch a ride and everyone is so oppressed by the cursed talismans he's carrying and also his general demeanor that they lose glory for the next rite
blissful trench
Mistakes were made... I thought I was doing the right thing by lending him a hand =/
Although I appreciate that the status message was (iirc) “Too much Falcon Ron.”
pliant sigil
full disclosure ron is me when i talk to myself
lethal cipher
||I like at the end when he gives us a 2% discount since we're leaving soon||
heavy hill
I'm slowly trying to do a True Nightwing game with all titan stars and winning every liberation (alt-f4 gets spammed a lot)
it broke my heart when I had to deny falcon ron a ride
vernal harbor
you don't have to close the game, you can just pause and load I think?
steam version seems to be okay with that
vernal harbor
it could be, let me open the game and check
you're right, it's my bad, my save wasn't in true nightwing and that's why I could load, tn probably does stop it
tardy maple
Does every triumvirate have a reader that we don't see or do only the Nightwings need one?
lethal cipher
I suspect so! In game it says that there where 40 printed books, but if there's only 9 sets of 3 then there would be only 27 books, but if there's 9 sets of 4 there's 36 different used books
And if you've played the game you'll come to realize that the last four are also used
stray jolt
i think they don't need a reader, but a reader really helps? i'm not sure though
if every team had a reader, i'd suspect we'd have mind control and telepathy shenanigans happening before every match
and it wouldn't be as big a surprise when we find out volfred is a reader too
i'd say the teams have spare books lying around in case they pick up a reader, but they don't really need one to take part in the rites
blissful trench
I;d agree, I don't think most triumvirates have an incumbent reader, but would certainly benefit from one and regocnize theirvalue
lethal cipher
I have a screenshot of the blackwagon holding 4 different books if anybody's interested in looking by the way
tardy maple
Aren't those the ones our exiles hold?
vestal bluff
It’s stated in the Book, I believe, that you may or may not have a Reader helping your 3 Rites-conductors. So each Triumvirate would need either 3 or 4 books with them in order to do a Rite
tardy maple
Does that include the Nightwings or did they have to have one?
lethal cipher
I think it's suggested near the beginning that they need to have one, hence why the group of three where looking for you
stray jolt
i think volfred would mention a reader in his story about oralech not-ascending
err, i think anyway, not entirely sure
lethal cipher
I thought that Volfred was the reader of that group...
tardy maple
But they can't participate and be reader at the same time, right?
wide river
it's iffy on whether they can Read and play at the same time
· Exiles shall move as of a single mind, to demonstrate their faith, and recognize that they, as we the Eight, cannot prevail alone. Their worth shall be determined both by their actions, and their peers. · Triumvirates lacking experience in this may designate a Reader, whose focus on this Book may help the others to coordinate.
stray jolt
see, i'm not sure whether the three exiles looking for us means that they need a reader or volfred just wanted them to have a major advantage over the other teams
wide river
the present-day nightwings need a reader because of the tight timeframe meaning they can't learn to work together as well as they need to
stray jolt
or to help them along since none of the exiles would know how to do the rites
wide river
remember, volfred's plan hinges on the nightwings winning
tardy maple
Given that the Nightwings are supposed to be the triumvirate that all others are tested against, it would make sense for them to be required to have such advantages
wide river
the only thing you would 'need' a reader for is to know where the rites are
tardy maple
It would make sense for it to also just be a thing that's happened in the past and Volfred wanted good chances.
Then how did the other triumvirates know where to go?
wide river
¯_(ツ)_/¯
stray jolt
experienced exiles would know and teach the new ones
wide river
yeah, that was my assumption
stray jolt
they seem to always go to the same places regardless
tardy maple
Volfred did predict where the next rite would be at one point.
wide river
either that or "it doesn't take a genius to look up and see where the stars are brighter"
stray jolt
aside from traitor's isle
wide river
· Bearing this the Book bestowed on your triumvirate, you, the Reader, shall perceive under which stars you are to congregate. · Follow where they lead, as your adversaries shall. If either of you fails to appear, then neither of you walks the Path.
depending on what it means by "bearing" the book, it might be possible to see where the rites will be even without being literate
tardy maple
It's also possible that the other triumvirate leaders are capable of reading but wanted to participate and be freed
stray jolt
eh, i think if SGG wanted to go that route there would be a lot more mind reading and stuff
tardy maple
Depending on the timeframe, it's possible a lot of them were exiled before literacy was outlawed. I missed how long ago that was
tardy maple
Dalbert's pretty old
tardy maple
Maybe he's just old in dog years
wide river
although
hm
the game only takes palce in 637 AS
that's a way horter timeframe than i remember
i'm going to double check....
vestal bluff
837 AS
stray jolt
lmao
wide river
so literacy was banned in 617 and the game takes place in 837; only the saps and crones would feasibly be old enough to predate the ban
fun fact, don't think too hard about the timeline involved in oralech's fall because you WILL get a headache
tardy maple
So they're not old enough to be from before the ban, but it is still possible they're closet literate
wide river
nobody said it wasn't possible.........
tardy maple
I'm just recapping
vestal bluff
Bertie’s 400 years old
stray jolt
oralech fell and he hit his head so hard he pushed out some horns
vestal bluff
She could definitely read, especially given that she made inks for Volfred’s stamping-press
wide river
volfred was apparently "very young" by sap standards when the ban went through
stray jolt
lmao imagine having bertrude as your reader
tardy maple
Only the commonwealth outlawed literacy, right? It could still be widespread amongst the Harps.
lethal cipher
They're a little busy constantly watching the commonwealth to try and destroy it though, methinks
mild falcon
highwing book club
vestal bluff
Highwing book club 🐦
Vs
Nightwing book club 
vernal harbor
Nightwing book club is slightly superior thanks to fire-proof ink
but Highwing book club can fly, thus taking the literature higher
civic birch
IIRC volfred predates the literacy ban, but he was relatively young when it went into place
of course, "relatively young" by sap terms could mean, like, fifty, but
oh sparrow already said that lmao
I do like the idea that literacy is much more widespread among Highwings, and they seem to be more aware of capital-R Reading, too
obviously they undergo 'conditioning' to resist mundane interrogation ( ... 😰 ) but right from the start Pamitha can block the Reader out/selectively allow them in
vernal harbor
I'm going to headcanon that the highwings are almost all Readers, leading to Pam learning to resist
pam doesn't just resist though, she was almost broadcasting at some point I think?
so maybe Reading could be used for remote communication, like handfree cellphones
and will have the bonus advantage that since commonwealth soldiers cannot read, this is private channel for them
mild falcon
ive always kind of liked the idea that since reading is something the average person IRL can do, Reading is also that sort of thing
it's all just body language
torn bolt
contrary-wise i've always liked the idea that reading is different from Reading
and all/most people who can read has the potential to learn how to Read but it's not a common skill to develop without training
mild falcon
pamitha's training is just "when you feel a strong emotion, dont move your face as much"
civic birch
yeah, I do think that reading (lowercase-r, literacy) is different from Reading (capital R, ambiguously magic)
also that letter-reading is not a necessary precursor to big-R Reading
it's a common one, and it may be the easiest/fastest way for someone to pick up that skillset, but (for example) I have a Reader who got their start through augury rather than letters
it's certainly the easiest avenue to big-R Reading for the commonwealth to control
vernal harbor
was the stowaway capable of Reading without reading, I wonder?
Reading really is more than just body language, it was almost mind reading
civic birch
oh, that's a good point! I think she's definitely inclined that way
upper karma
I still keep thinking about my last playthrough which was a rollercoaster of emotions:
- after having a peaceful revolution on my first playthrough, on the same difficulty the liberation rites felt harder
- I desperately wanted to keep the Stowaway and Almer together (didn't last time) so after he got liberated, I was glad I managed to get her out as well (went for a few more pairings this time)
- at one point 4 characters had about 50-100 exp. to level up while I cursed at the game for not letting them level up yet
- due to fear of missing out on the chance to get the 12-titan-star achievement for free on the penultimate rite I started having them on on all rites close to it and somehow prevailed with them and didn't need the freebie at all
- got the "complete Book of Rites" achievement after losing all hope of getting it
- the Stowaway is still a cinnamon roll that must be protected, even with a different name (first Fae, now Gae)
long holly
The Roller coaster of emotions is one of the reasons why I fell so deeply in love with the game
tardy maple
Fun fact: the sound files call her Mae
upper karma
@long holly True, it put to shame all sports games I have ever played that dared to claim they have a "story mode".
vernal harbor
did you liberate Oralech? I did and I am still glad that I did, even though I had to leave Volfred out
next run I'm going to liberate Volfred for sure
and also let Oralech liberated and see what happens
upper karma
@vernal harbor This time yes. Definitely going to try your way as well, since I am still missing Volfred's 200 dmg achievement and that is a nice incentive
dense karma
Wow, all of this talk makes me actually want to finish this game. I think I have 3 or 4 more rites to finish?
upper karma
What's stopping you from finishing it?
lime mural
Can’t speak for him but I struggled to keep going because I was anxious about who I was going to liberate and kept getting restless thinking about it 😂
vernal harbor
the demons are all nice people that you can liberate
the rest depends on who you want to keep together, but even then their feelings won't be stopped by mere distance
lunar flame
Ahhhhh I know that feeling-- I got kind of sad about liberating Rukey bc he was my favorite to play as
void flare
hey does anybody know what the new pyre patch is about?
onyx forum
yeah hermes is a nightwing now right 
(jk) (i hope someone can help)
blissful trench
they've been gradually fixing translation stuff since launch, could just be that
vestal bluff
There's a patch?
heavy hill
iirc it just fixed a rare crash
patch notes are usually posted in the steam discussions
lethal cipher
You know what'd be really nice? Save-able builds for your triumvirate in the vs mode. Selecting 18 different things every game gets tiresome after a while
lethal cipher
And the ability to look at the team set up and your set up mid game
ebon arch
has anyone tried "online" matches with a service like parsec that allows local co-op games to be played online?
lethal cipher
Oh boy are you in for a treat. There's a discord server that was made to do that entirely!
ebon arch
oh snap
lethal cipher
If you scroll up a few miles there'll be a post by "@Real_Joe_ManyMane on Twitter" that has an invitation link
ebon arch
i'll have to brush up my skills before joining, last time i played a match was half a year back or so
oh boy
i'll have to use the search then
thankye kindly
lethal cipher
search these words from that guy and it should help: "playing Pyre online"
I'm just not giving it to you directly since he typed it in a nice way and I'm not sure I have permission n such
I mean what the heck
vestal bluff
Yeah, in the future, don’t worry at all about ‘permission’ lol
We want everyone we can get, from wherever we can get ‘em!
stoic junco
Guys, I was wondering one thing. I heard that Greg said something about harps' biology or something, but I can't search by nickname. Do you know anything about it?
wide river
if you could be more specific i probably remember the answer you’re looking for
gloomy turtle
Oh, online Pyre rites. I didn't even know that was a possibility 👀
vestal bluff
It wasn't, 'til the Parsec software made it possible
Join the server, we can teach you how to use it!
ebon arch
bit of a hard ask but does anyone have screenshots of hedwyn's harp gf on hand? i recall she had a portrait somewhere, but i could be wrong
brittle oyster
only have this on me 
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/550351196674588675/589697933281067009/20190114204121_1.jpg
ebon arch
that's EXACTLY what i was looking for, thanks a bunch
lime mural
not sure if you need it anymore but if anyone else wants her,. here she is!
civic birch
oh! she in high def!
god i never noticed how it's a little greebly around the edges
"hedwyn ... i don't feel so good ... "
lunar flame
FJCHNFjcfjfj
spiral osprey
mild falcon
its a faint memory?
hedwyn realizing after years and years, that he can't remember really what she looked like
😢
civic birch
😭
young folio
nah, all the portraits are like that
slate dune
We should get that Rite Club link pinned
upper karma
Just out of curiosity, how skilled would you say are the players there?
spiral osprey
failer's real good, he streamed like a week ago and watching him was wild
onyx forum
failer mopped the floor with me once hjfhjfhj hes very good
torn bolt
failer's very good but i at least am beans at it so if you join there's at least one person who's beatable 
spiral osprey
once i get back to the states and learn how to play pyre again, it's on
torn bolt
i'm looking forward to it
gloomy turtle
Oh, I didn't notice you guys posted a link
Yeah, when I brush up on my rite skills I'll join you guys
Might want to diversify a bit too, I was too into Pamitha shenanigans
upper karma
Thanks, once I get to Pyre again, I will be sure to check it out.
vestal bluff
Morgan’s better than me
But yeah, we welcome all skill levels in Rite Club for sure!
onyx forum
OH YEAH @sharp willow now that i have a computer that can run pyre one day we should. resume our match
lethal cipher
@upper karma You know how the AI can go up to level five? Basically the people there are level 7-9 and they have really synergized teams. Sorry that I'm a bit late
upper karma
@lethal cipher That is... very discouraging. 😄 But thanks anyway.
vestal bluff
Nah, don't be discouraged
Some of us have played longer than others
level 7-9 and they have really synergized teams is not really representative of everyone there
lethal cipher
Well the people that are actively playing like you me and doomhammer
So far I've only played against you so I can't realistically judge it any other way
and even then it's not on fair ground so you could be even better than what I first thought
vestal bluff
Fair enough, I guess
But still, we're not all just, like, absolute boss monsters or anything
lethal cipher
I suppose. I guess a better thing to say is it ranges from rank 3-9 with varying levels of synergization.
I didn't mean to discourage youuuuuu
torpid niche
It's 23:29 in my country and I have to finish an assignment and I'm listening to the OST like for the third time today and I'm crying because it's so beautiful
I literally can't escape
mild falcon
neither could oralech 😢
torpid niche
Ouch...
civic birch
hey now!
heady karma
Well, he can
lethal cipher
I would have saved him if he had joined the Nightwings. He condemned at least 30 people including at least 4 of my friends to the downside forever.
heavy hill
yeah my first playthrough I freed myself
sorry oralech maybe don't go around screwing over other people trying to solve the problems you have with the system
mild falcon
oralech is bad praxis
gloomy turtle
Oralech is a victim of the system like everyone else, it's not his fault he got screwed over by his comrade
mild falcon
yeah that stuff isnt his fault
heavy hill
yeah but it is his fault that he takes it out on everyone else
gloomy turtle
To which extent did he screw over everyone else? I do remember that he didn't go about things in the best way, but the details are pretty hazy since I last played last year
heavy hill
well for one, he interferes and sabotages other unrelated triumvirates just to fulfill his vendetta against the nightwings, even going so far as to discourage them entirely from trying to win a place in the final liberation
ebon arch
He also slams your van, waking up any of your exiles that were trying to get a peaceful nap and probably knocking over that expensive bottle of sand
mild falcon
is oralech an edgelord
he spends a lot of time with his own triumverate showing off his katana collection
heavy hill
oralech only really redeems himself if you set him free and have a violent revolution, the rest of the time he is actively hindering others
lethal cipher
"Tis not glory but wrath that drives that Oralech"
civic birch
I'm not saying I agree with Oralech's actions but I understand why he took them and I can't hate him for it
lethal cipher
I fully agree with that, but under the circumstances I couldn't justify saving him
civic birch
Ultimately he's ... hurt and bitter and lost, and lashing out towards the only way he can think of to fix it
Fair enough.
lethal cipher
I mean he may risk the whole plan, and I personally would rather improve the lives of the many in the commonwealth than risk him running amok and tearing everything down
torn bolt
personally, i didn't save him not because i disliked him (bc ..... lbr i find volfred Equally Grating) but because i wasn't sure if the plan would succeed without volfred
yeah
lethal cipher
but you can't not feel sympathetic for him, he's exactly that, hurt bitter and lost
torn bolt
like it said my odds were 86% and GOD, WHAT IF they just. rolled the percent
for all i knew it could be 97% and then you get the 3% and the revolution fails
like real life
lethal cipher
Such a great, great game
methinks that if books evolved into better experiences they would be this
civic birch
No, honestly, that's a perfectly rational decision Saris -- I'm not disagreeing
I do think Oralech deserves his freedom -- he's right! He won it! But ... deserves it more than whoever you Anointed? Than any other exile? And therein lies the dilemma, and that, imo, is what makes it interesting
Technically, the premise of the Rites is supposed to be that whoever wants freedom the hardest in that cycle of Rites is Liberated -- so Oralech is perfectly in line there :P
lethal cipher
I personally promoted myself over him, though I would have promoted Pamitha if I had known it would have let Hedwyn find Fikani and to help smooth over relations with the highwing remnants. My choice to rescue myself was that so someone who fully understood the will of the scribes was there to make sure everyone else did as well
civic birch
nods
lethal cipher
Sadly she wasn't even picked for the last rite, I have trouble using harps 😢
heavy hill
yeah until I learned that the percentage isn't a real "chance" I was really thinking about the plan more than who I liked more
civic birch
I won that lib rite in my first playthrough, and I accepted my freedom when Volfred (my Anointed) offered it to me -- ultimately I decided Oralech was right, and that liberation shouldn't be tossed around like a beachball
lethal cipher
The ultimate game of no u
The only one I lost was for Ignarious (thank goodness it screwed over like 3 achievements) but I don't regret it, especially after finding out Jodariel got to find happiness in her own right
mild falcon
Here's a fun pyre story to tell
What happens long after the revolution?
Of course the people topside thrive, but suprisingly the downside becomes livable too
Generations later, a young lady takes up the history books and songs to discover the way to the downside, so that she can be with her lover and penpal on the other side
They kiss (and they are both girls)
wide river
hello everyone how are you doing on this fine evening
it is the first anniversary of that time i tried to see how much of the bee movie script i could fit into a single line of pyre text before the game crashed and refused to load it
wide river
it is also the one year and one day anniversary of that time i renamed ti'zo to ye'et and made all the statuses say "thinking about deluge", because memes are funny
civic birch
YEET'S NEST
spiral osprey
it's the anniversary of my first test run of the no deluge mod
i don't have anything fun on hand for that immediately
oh i found something
no portrait, nothing clickable, he was Gone
why do i not have a copy of Sir saved....
mild falcon
would it skip over deluge when you clicked on dalbert and then the right arrow
spiral osprey
🤔
you're gonna make me load all the no deluge scripts again and try it out
because it's been a year and i honestly don't remember
mild falcon
gamecrash?
spiral osprey
FOUND MORE EVIDENCE
no it never crashed
Lua is surprisingly sturdy
it can take a beating
mild falcon
someone knighted greg?
the wyrm seems terrified of not having a character bio
i wonder how much work it would have been to push deluge out of the campaign completely
just have seagrass say all his lines
spiral osprey
i was working on just having blank spaces
weird things are located elsewhere, like the "Sir" title
i was having trouble removing it
mild falcon
now thats curious
spiral osprey
I was also having a shocking amount of trouble removing his portrait
mild falcon
perhaps we would have had deluges of different genders? perhaps matching the player's gender?
spiral osprey
even though when i'm not TRYING TO, portraits disappear all the time during normal modding
mild falcon
or maybe deluge just gets unknighted at some point
spiral osprey
i thought just butchering file names would be enough to throw it off but nope!! there must be a contingency somewhere
mild falcon
the pyre devs must have known someone would try to do exactly this
deluge defense mechanism
spiral osprey
wide river
ye'et's biography
mild falcon
yeet is older than he appears, vine shut down over 2 years ago
wide river
it's not the anniversary of it or anywhere near, in fact, but i actually still have the screenshots from when i was testing out the "destroy jodi/ignarius and make her get together with pamitha in the epilogue instead" mod
which i am still proud of myself for getting to work
spiral osprey
my mod folder has a lot more crap in it than i remember
wide river
hgfkjhgdkfg i'd forgotten that in that mod i made jodi follow through on her promise to punch ignarius in the mouth
spiral osprey
what in the hell is "the best prize is a SURprise" supposed to be???? hello????? past me?????????
IT'S JUST ONE FILE, WHAT DID I DO
wide river
both versions of that epilogue, just, pow, right in the kisser
wide river
Some time later, she ran into Ignarius, also liberated. Both their horns had started to recede by then. As promised, he offered to buy her a drink... And, also as promised, she punched him in the mouth. He made sure to keep a respectful distance, after that.
lime mural
ven you have to find out what one file does
lime mural
spiral osprey
oh hell. hold on
ugh the copy of the events text is from after pyre did that update where they added speaker tags so the whole thing is illegible now
wide river
rip
lime mural
rip 
spiral osprey
i'm gonna pray one of my other mods has the old version of that file
HEY SPARROW IT TURNS OUT THE FILE I'M USING FOR COMPARISON??? IS THE ONE THAT SPAWNED "FOR AT LAST HE COULD [redacted] DIE"
onyx forum
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA LEGEND
spiral osprey
ok so it looks like i just changed one single line to make volfralech more gay and that was it gkdjgfd
that's kind of disappointing lol
lime mural
did you just say volfralech
spiral osprey
well considering i made an entire mod that did that, one line isn't that impressive gkdfgdf
spiral osprey
"gol golathgaynian" is bound to be a fun one
i think that is probably the one i used to make this,
no wait,
that was something else.
OH IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED I MODDED....A GENDER NEUTRAL TITLE THAT TARIQ WILL USE FOR THE READER
fully functional mod that will make it so tariq refers to a gender neutral reader not as just "Reader" but as "Esteemed Reader"
to be in line with "Reader sir" and "Reader madam"
wide river
ah yes i love that one ;w;
mild falcon
steamed reader
onyx forum
i love esteemed reader...
gentle otter
mmmm steamed reader
vernal harbor
Sauna or...
torn bolt
wait what Was the gol golathgaynian mod
spiral osprey
some text changes, i don't remember what, precisely
oh wait sparrow sent them to me.
so what happened is, sparrow wrote some text, and i just
inserted it into the book files gkdfjgf
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/336789007134359552/367479606288318464/unknown.png?width=1192&height=671
courtesy of sparrow
they photoshopped this, and then i made it Real™
torn bolt
oh this is very GOOD
mild falcon
if tariq is not so secretly very old and ancient, perhaps he also dated some of the scribes way back when
...or some of the titans
torn bolt
god what's that fic somewhere
mild falcon
the song about those six beefy shoulders has been lost to time
torn bolt
there's some hedwyn/tariq fic that's very sweet and tariq is basically like 'hedwyn you're handsome like gol and i like that'
tariq your scribes crush
onyx forum
tired: tariq is yslach
wired: tariq KISSED yslach
torn bolt
sdfhggjh !!
mild falcon
yslach is like that because of a bad breakup
torn bolt
that one bit in howl's moving castle
the movie
'he's summoning spirits of darkness to him ...... i saw him do this once when a girl dumped him'
lime mural
vernal harbor
who wasn't at least tempted to do something like that when you failed to woo a girl (or cat, or bird)
though having one's skin become the book bind for your boyfriend's comrades is something else
mild falcon
thats why he stays away from those books
vernal harbor
isn't yslach also one of the titans that is still kind of alive (maybe even conscious? or semi-conscious like as if locked in a deathly dream?)
mild falcon
i get the vibe that all the titans are like that
but yslach came from much further than the others, or so the lore says
astral born
vernal harbor
when you come down from the very stars to be with your boyfriend but you get dumped anyway 😔 
mild falcon
Tariq: babe come over
Yslach: I'm busy
Tariq: my parents aren't home
Yslach: 
heady karma
Not even the titans are safe from the fam fics I see... 😦
vernal harbor
Human minds are alternate universe generators, if it exists there is a ship
I bet it is just a matter of time for the black wagon fanfic to exist, and for the wagon to fall in love
Heck I’m already brewing a fanfic where the wagon works a bit like an evangelion mecha
heady karma
blackwagon X doomed ship from the sea place
mild falcon
I mean, xae says she talks to the blackwagon, there's potential there
heavy hill
I would have liked to see Pyre with the original idea of limited time to get to rites + fuel and all that stuff
maybe as the true hardest difficulty, the nightwings lose just because they forgot to show up
mild falcon
You'd feed your best characters more consistently to keep their stats up
Would be a much darker game, I'm glad it's abstracted away
heavy hill
punch club but pyre
upper karma
If blackwagon can fall in love, then it also can participate in the rites
lime mural
that’s beyond our powers 
lunar flame
:delugethink:
Omg it appeared for a split second before the bot lectured me about not having Nitro
mild falcon
Reskin oralech with his op stats as "the blackwagon"
heady karma
Aura is about as big
mild falcon
Ae tosses robes on wagon at midnight, while everyone's sleeping... everyone inside gets instantly banished
vernal harbor
I thought banishing only occurs during rites
For balance reason, the wagon as rite player would probably have very small aura but instead of launching it, the wagon inhales opponents within an area inside itself to banish them
vestal bluff
And some of the Pyrehearts too
But they all have their Books with them at the time
The Howlers don't though, so they don't get auras
heady karma
Step 1: smuggle a book back to the commonwealth
Step 2: banish the entire topside
Step 3: ?????
Step 4: profit
onyx forum
?????? Is the step where ur cursed horribly by the scribes ghosts or something
lethal cipher
I think that other people need to have books to be effected, and auras only exist during rites, and all of this must take place in the downside.
heady karma
Howlers tho
lethal cipher
Or one person brings a book with them and then rule the new commonwealth lol
lethal cipher
Doesn't seem very balanced
lethal cipher
Would it though? All someone'd have to do is shoot the one guy in a mask running at them with a book
Or shoot them with a bow and arrow
vestal bluff
but what if they banish the arrow midair
heady karma
Completely flawless plan I have no idea what you’re talking about
lethal cipher
I think banishment works on sentient objects alone, otherwise you would just be able to banish rocks in your way during rites
lethal cipher
...I don't think an elephant could tank 70 arrows, much less basically a bodybuilder
heady karma
Demons are tough
lethal cipher
...Not that tough though
They're still just mortals that have been artificially strengthened and given horns
lethal cipher
but arrows deal 50 damage
and demons can only dash twice in a row
humans can easily outmatch them in a race
heady karma
Arrows do like 1d8 + Dex
lethal cipher
demons have weakness to arrows, they have -50 resistance to them
so it's initial damage that they would have done plus 50
heady karma
It would be +50%
vernal harbor
Run while inside a wooden tank and equipped with the relic that makes your aura passes through objects
mild falcon
I like to think the howlers respawn at home after being banished
We're not murderers
civic birch
i mean, jodi super does have a howler-hide rug
wide river
given the size of the rug and the size of the average howler that’s terrifying tbh
it’d be like having, idk, a cat-skin rug, except all the cats were trying to kill you.
lethal cipher
Not much was ever said about howlers except that they needed to be avoided and that they can be banished. Are they undomesticated imps?
For me at least
torn bolt
i think they are!
i think it's implied that howlers are wild imps, and drive-imps are .... maybe not domesticated, because imps can be intelligent, but adapted to live with other species?
and probably to get along with each other in close quarters better
because ti'zo has a mastery where he can go back and forth between howler form, and in iirc jomuer's chapter, he says ha'ub says howlers might be persuaded to help exiles because they want meaningful work
to exist with purpose
which i thought was very cute
also i ...... suppose that means ha'ub is technically a howler
if howler = wild imp
civic birch
-- god i should include some howlers in the prairie clan huh
torn bolt
yes !!
imps are good ..... i really wish we had more imp characters in pyre
messenger imp is good but it would have been great to have another named imp character in the rites
-- i mean they're named but like. named, with a portrait and backstory
mild falcon
Messenger imp is a title
Is "turn into howler" a good ability even
I never used it much
torn bolt
elusive nature is very good
now, the bog crone ability that turns other people into howlers,
that one is good
thick carbon
this just in: strange voyage is tied with dread design for best track in Pyre
It FEELS like rolling
mild falcon
A group of ragtag children born in the downside begin staying up past their bedtimes when they spot glowing costumed folks performing some sort of ritual near the giant skeleton. They meet a pale young woman who has forgotten her name but claims to have a deeper understanding of the world around them, and knows of a path to exit the downside into a larger, more domesticated world
In Stranger Voyage
long holly
Strange Voyage is pretty rocking. Excellent road music... sometimes I miss having a car
But my flying blackwagon is good enough I guess ;)
wide river
bumper sticker that says my other ride is the blackwagon
onyx forum
god i need that
thick carbon
booty shorts
onyx forum
AAAAAAA
long holly
o_O
mild falcon
oralech grew his horns so long because while he was lying on the ground recovering he was surfing the web on his blackberry the whole time
long holly
blackberry? dang he's been there forever
onyx forum
oh sweet demonization real
thick carbon
they say it like it's a bad thing
stray jolt
bouta spike some people
median rivet
:
do you know what's the idea of this emote??
mild falcon
the idea is that tariq deserves an emote
median rivet
But the style is so different than the others...
heady karma
He is one of a kind
mild falcon
there's no consistent style in the emotes afaik
theres some that look similar but tariq isnt the only different one
wide river
@onyx forum come defend your boy
wide river
i made
heady karma
And they look wonderful
median rivet
I love them!
dusk current
Yeah, when we first started this server we asked the emoji creators over at the fan server if we could use them here as well!
wide river
dusa is just dusa!
onyx forum
oh!! i made that one lol
heady karma
just dusa!
wide river
yeah kam made and 
heady karma
JUST
onyx forum
i made and edited 
median rivet
Gilman is awesome!!
wide river
i am also responsible for 
onyx forum
was also me!
idle geyser
im a big fan of like all the emotes
median rivet
I didn't know u did the emotes
idle geyser
median rivet
I thought it was supergiant
heady karma
Bould move
dusk current
It's a mixed bag! Some are made by us, some are made by users. 👍
median rivet
cool!!
idle geyser
bouldy supremacy
wide river
yeah, what cait said! most of the emotes come from the ones you can get on steam, then there's a few extra, and then there's some we brought over from the previous server
dusk current
Not in this channel he's not!! Pyre here. 
median rivet
and why onions and f10 pls?
wide river
for fun!
idle geyser
oh whoops sorry
wide river
i assume.
dusk current
It's okay gold. 😄
median rivet
it's not private jokes?
dusk current
For fun, yeap! Both are references to our newest game, Hades. Onions are a consolation prize when you do poorly in an in-game challenge, and F10 is what you press to submit bug reports!
median rivet
OK ty !! I'll remembering it while playing Hades!
heady karma
F10 is for when someone asks how to report a bug
median rivet
Now I'll try to die in the first chamber! XD
heady karma
We have a speedrun category for that but this is the wrong channel
median rivet
Ok! Thanks a lot everyone :3
thick carbon
Tariq in thrash pack: https://tesray.tumblr.com/post/185830375724/sycamoreorless-1965-crucianelli-spazial
lethal cipher
How would Wyrms even fight in regular battles? Constrict things? This has been bothering me for some time now I've just kept forgetting to ask
mild falcon
maybe its like asking how boats fight in regular battles
navys mostly serve to counter your opponent's navy
or disrupt trade routes, etc
vestal bluff
Wyrms can curl their tails (if that’s the term for it) around stuff
It’s mentioned that Gilman knows fencing, so they could hold a sword in their tail whilst slithering about the battlefield
stray jolt
i think underking's artifact is known as the "bladed mail"
they probably have armor that can cut things
heavy hill
its like rattlesnake jake from rango, but with swords
lethal cipher
So just having blades or spikes that you could whip or slide things against.
slate dune
Spin to win, as they say
lethal cipher
As them youngsters declare
spark cloud
Make your whole body a sword
undone fox
pyre is just religious calvinball
kind forge
Pyre is one of my favorite games like, ever!
lavish ridge
stray jolt
it was good until deluge
mild falcon
deluge gang
💚 💚 💚
💚――――― 👁
💚 💚 💚
⚫ 💚
⚫ 💚
💚
thick carbon
I like the (trash) boys with the bow tie
lunar flame
deluge
exotic cape
Ron is absolutely a mississippi boy
upper karma
Good potential Pyre teams:
- Harry Potter, Hermione Granger, Ron Weasley
- The Powerpuff Girls
- Ed, Edd and Eddy
- Tina, Gene and Louise Belcher
- Bart, Lisa and Maggie Simpson
- Green Day
- Michael, Franklin and Trevor from GTA V
thick carbon
Alvin and the Chipmunks
tough hinge
Ash, Brock and Misty
thick carbon
MCELROY SQUAD
tough hinge
Clint is the Reader
onyx forum
YESSS
mild falcon
Galar starters?
vestal bluff
Megaera, Alecto, and Tisiphone
mild falcon
I think jenzee drew the transistor characters as pyre team
mild falcon
Umm, the baudelaire orphans?
tough hinge
Yes
onyx forum
YESSS
young folio
this is an obscure one, but Todd, Viola and Manchee from chaos walking
manchee is a talking dog so it all checks out
pliant sigil
zag than and hypnos
civic birch
Someone said Ash Brock and Misty, so I gotta add Team Rocket
Meowth: the rare cat clan of curs
onyx forum
YEESSS
midnight hawk
zia, zulf, kid w rucks as the reader
thick carbon
Team made of 3 hedwyns... paradise
wide river
