ligeratoosh
#pyre
wide river
wide river
it’s cute
also i don’t know if i’m just hearing things but when i was transcribing hedwyn’s lines it was always difficult to tell if he was saying N or M
thanks chris
mild falcon
is it a bad read for me to assume she'd be self-conscious about it?
hollow steppe
Pyre is good and (along with supergiant in general) inspired me to make my own game
lime mural
i LIVE for jodi’s lisp 😍
lone mural
It only makes her more attractive tbh
pseudo sandal
What's the deal with the sandalwood emoji? 
i don't recognize the flag lmao
young folio
its the gay pride flag! 🏳️🌈
pseudo sandal
Hell yes
wide river
there's also 
mild falcon
Wow that's so deep
spark cloud
but tree already has a husband 
mild falcon
Apparently the hot new thing is "size difference" so this fits nicely into that niche
Tree didn't know husband was alive for a while
spark cloud
?????
spark cloud
gilman/rukey, obviously
wide river
gilman/rukey is excellent
listen if the phrase "kindred spirits" gets used then the relationship it's referring to is automatically both gay and canon and that's just The Facts™
faint umbra
Gilman is married to his honor. Rukey's married to his moustache. Volfred is married to books. But he cheats on them with Oralech.
vestal bluff
And the Reader's married to Sandra 💚
heavy hill
I've never heard of gilman/rukey until now
I still stand by pamitha/rukey
dark pewter
safe adder
what's this about Jodi having a lisp?? 👀
wide river
off the top of my head, it's most notable when she says 'reader'
hang on, lemme pull up the voices...
"reader" in sahrian is "ligaratus" - here's hedwyn saying it...
vs. jodariel saying it
hedwyn's saying "ligaratus", whereas with jodariel it comes out more like "ligaratush"
a lot of jodi's lines have that "s -> sh" sound
but it's most prominent when she says ligaratus
lime mural
This is why I'm here. For this.
wide river
i'm still 
about all the different variations on "ligaratus" and how that's reflected in what the characters are actually calling you
like how gilman calls you 'master-reader', which is reflected in that he doesn't say 'ligaratus' but 'magaratus' instead
with pam it's not 'ligaratus' but 'ligaramis', fitting how she'll call you 'reader darling'
sorry, i'm a nerd
spark cloud
'magaratus' makes me go a little huh?? since you'd think the root is 'ligar'
it's apparently not just a simple prefix but replaces part of or the entire root?
stray jolt
maybe "gara" is the root here
wide river
sahrian laughs in the face of traditional grammar apparently
spark cloud
'ligar' has a very clear etymology in latin "to bind" tho
mild falcon
i mean, it could just be a portmanteau
wide river
it's certainly the odd one out - ligaratus, ligaramis, ligarestas, ligararum, magaratus
stray jolt
maybe it's just a lingual exception
wide river
perhaps!
mild falcon
maybe it's slang?
wide river
considering that the only characters that use ligaratus variants are from 'foreign' cultures - a harp, a sap, a crone and a wyrm
spark cloud
or it doesn't literally mean "master-reader", that is it's not some honorific stuck in front of "reader"
and is some whole other different root
ie he just calls you master or something in sahrian
stray jolt
suddenly the linguistic complexities of sahrian are now interesting to me
spiral osprey
i'm like pretty sure "magaratus" is a portmanteau nickname
kasavin has said "ligarestas" is roughly equivalent to what volfred says: "reader, my kin"
so it could be a diminutive or an ending denoting less formality?
"ligaramis" similarly sounds to me like "my reader" which would be appropriate for pam
"ligararum", knowing bertrude, is probably an archaic form
wide river
see, i took the opposite stance and figured "ligarestas" was showing, like.... respect, but not deference the way "master-reader" might
literally volfred calling you his equal
spark cloud
SWEET READER O' MINE....
heady karma
What are everyone’s favorite charm-character combos
pliant sigil
i dont remember volfred calling the reader "my kin" but if it is...
volfred 🤝 ares 👉 same voice actor calling the protag "my kin"
spiral osprey
he does! it's "my boy", "my girl" or "my kin" depending on your pronoun choice
wide river
honestly i vastly prefer “my kin”, partly bc it’s gender-neutral and partly bc it doesn’t sound so patronising
lavish ridge
“my boy” always makes me think of zelda cd-i too gjdkfjdkfjdkhf
heady karma
I didn’t mind the my boy part beyond always thought of vol as a kind of grandfather to the nightwings
With gil and the moon touched girl being the children
And everyone else being adults apart from bertrude
wide river
uncle sandalwood
spark cloud
My kin is ever so slightly memeable
Tbh he is just a bit patronizing towards the reader or maybe I just chose some really bratty responses
spark cloud
if you answer his "what is freedom" question badly or don't answer he's like. hmm, your argument is not very well thought out. C-
also if you admit to not reading the book of rites
mild falcon
volfred asked his "what is freedom" question because he wanted you to answer wrong
so that he could show you how smart he is
heavy hill
Volfred: "what is freedom?"
Reader: "Being able to do what you want"
Volfred: "um ackshually"
spark cloud
volfred: has nobody ever taught you how to formulate a basic argument, do you even know how to write a five paragraph essay
mild falcon
volfred is the kind of tree to make intellectual video essays
remember to like and subscribe, my kin
heavy hill
volfred praises kurzgesagt as the highest form of media
spark cloud
the book of rites is no gesamtkunstwerk
thick carbon
oh my god. volf faces camera goliam was a war criminal...
spark cloud
goliam????
young folio
GOLIAM
spiral osprey
goliam
wide river
goliam....... goodt
thick carbon
it is
wide river
· I was unable to watch. My heart ached with such pity for the man, and for the love I felt for him when I had served him, that I sprang to his defense...
And when the danger did subside, my Emperor Soliam Murr, he said something to me, which shook me to the essence of my being. · He said: 'You gave your freedom, Master Golathanian, so that I may yet have mine.' · 'You, too, now are an exile of the Downside. In all the days which I have left, I never could repay the mercy you have shown me. So, if I cannot do so in this life, then I shall do it in the next.'
reminder that these are canon lines from the book of rites
thick carbon
gol said gay rights!!!
wide river
you ever love your bf so much you write about it in the bible????
thick carbon
BIG MOOD
lapis hemlock
me @ all my friends rn
“hey, play pyre!”
lavish ridge
same
tough hinge
same
faint umbra
So, I was checking my folders because I need some space on my hard drive and I apparently have 2.5GB of Pyre savefiles. 451 files total. Any idea how I find out which ones I need to keep?
tough hinge
You should only need the core save files?
faint umbra
All save files are the exact same size and named with the same format though. How do I know which are the core ones?
Oh, unless those aren't actually important files? Just found a folder in Documents with files named "profile1" and such. Are those the only necessary ones?
tough hinge
"profile#.sav" are the most important ones; I've successfully duplicated saves by only copying this one file and renaming it, so I don't believe you need the other ones
wide river
jesus, how do you have 451 files in there????
faint umbra
I have no idea. Four full playthroughs, I guess? No idea why it made so many files, I have some that were made 2 or 3 minutes apart. Deleted them all though. How many files do y'all have in C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Pyre\Content\Saves?
wide river
oh, that's the folder you're looking in?
yeesh, no wonder that number seemed unreasonably high.
young fjord
I don't even have that folder
wide river
i have 280 in that folder, but only 19 in the documents/saved games/pyre folder
young fjord
In my Saved Games folder I just have 8 files (for one save)
frosty sage
Oh my God i just finished Pyre and it was one of the most immersive and lovable stories i've witnessed in a while
median rivet
It is
somber grail
let's not forget the music ❤
long holly
The story seriously had me at the edge of my seat especially with the liberation rites
I remember vividly my first play through and just being blown away
vestal bluff
Liberation as both a story element and a gameplay mechanic is really something else
Can't recall seeing anything quite like it, before or since
young fjord
I agree, it's a really unique and engaging mechanic
lavish ridge
Something I love about Supergiant games in general is that they all manage to tie the gameplay into the narrative really nicely. Pyre’s probably my favorite example of that in particular.
I just love how the game makes Liberation a very complicated choice since you have to find a balance between “who am I most comfortable playing as” and “who most deserves to be sent up”
young fjord
And even worse, it's more complicated than that. There's also considerations for who is left behind and which people get separated
The dilemma is real
civic birch
i ... found the gameplay/story division in Pyre kind of jarring, actually
but i do really like the mechanic of liberation
spark cloud
like i don't follow sports but i understand that sport culture goes way deep, and many cultures really do have religious/ritual associations with sports
so i thought that sports and ritual themes actually work really well together
(also 17776 happened around the same time as pyre which really hammered in the sport = ritual metaphor)
for example, i get that on some level, the "only one character can move" mechanic is purely a gameplay restriction, and the book of rites declaring THE THREE MUST MOVE AS ONE, IT BUILDS CHARACTER OR SOMETHING is a kinda goofy contrivance
but then i was like, most rituals in real life are in fact... full of equally arbitrary rules for symbolic reasons
mild falcon
Goofy is exactly the right word
spark cloud
uhhh like, snakes and ladders comes to mind as a game that originally has very symbolic and spiritual meaning
also chess, to some extent
snakes and ladders wikipedia quotes:
The underlying ideals of the game inspired a version introduced in Victorian England in 1892. The game has also been interpreted and used as a tool for teaching the effects of good deeds versus bad. [...] When the game was brought to England, the Indian virtues and vices were replaced by English ones in hopes of better reflecting Victorian doctrines of morality.```how about those ideals espoused by a game changing through time as it passes from the hands of the scribes to the current day commonwealth
civic birch
it wasn't so much the rules of the rites as like
hmmm pyre seems to focus a lot on player choice, or ... the illusion thereof
spark cloud
oh we're swimming in ven's territory now
civic birch
because ultimately player choice doesn't really ... have an impact on the plot
the Commonwealth falls and the Sahrian Union rises with ... only minor changes
i don't know, i'm distracted and i'm having a hard time explaining I think
spark cloud
hmm i think they were going for a "corrupt nations are doomed to fall" concept
but i'd say that.... peaceful revolution vs violent overthrow where lots of people die is a big difference?
civic birch
it's a difference, but the way it's executed, it didn't really ... have the impact i wanted it to
spark cloud
yeah it's a little impersonal when nobody you know suffers and it's just a statistic of how many people died
civic birch
yeah. overall a lot of the game felt like it ... didn't have much weight to it? i love the characters, and the setting, but the gameplay ... i couldn't really get invested in the stakes
spark cloud
for me most of the impact in choice came from the impact you made on those individual character's lives though
like my second playthrough i was entirely focused on keeping friends together and getting their interpersonal relationships to work out
young fjord
It's definitely heavy on the visual novel aspect, the gameplay is just a means to an end
spark cloud
idk maybe my philosophy is just that if you can't make a large scale difference in the world, then making a difference for the small group of people you love is also great and meaningful
not to get too sappy on main
young fjord
You're right, though, and getting sappy is the appropriate response to Pyre in my opinion
spark cloud
in a twist of irony the resident sap has nearly the opposite philosophy
civic birch
i. the goal of the Plan is to make a large-scale difference in the world, though
young fjord
bird is also right, though, in that you don't get to see any of the impact you're making. They try to impart it through the letters from Liberated party members and the epilogue at the end, but it doesn't have as much impact as the relationships of your party members themselves
civic birch
like, that's an important major goal of the plot
so it's sort of disappointing that ... the lack of variation in the endings ultimately makes those efforts feel kind of futile
spark cloud
i get where you're coming from
the plot does explicitly sell you on the bigass revolution plot point heavily
young fjord
I think it would be different if you'd gotten to do a split-party sort of game where you also control the characters that had been Liberated in order to carry out the Plan
civic birch
mm, yeah!
spark cloud
volfred's success percent chance doesn't even do anything as far as i can tell
young fjord
Then you'd be invested in it, right?
As it is, you're just fighting for an abstract ideal
civic birch
yeah, yeah. i know it's part of the game, and the traditional supergiant setting other plane™, and ... i even kind of like that you just have to trust the characters you liberate to do good work on the other side
also -- losing non-Lib rites has exactly 0 stakes when you get to a lib rite regardless
spark cloud
idk, maybe they were worried that if they had mechanics for the plan then people would focus too much on optimizing for max revolution success and not pay enough attention to the interpersonal side of the story
young fjord
There are interpersonal stakes to losing non-Lib rites, but nothing game changing
civic birch
they're interpersonal stakes and, with a couple exceptions, they don't have lasting consequences either
young fjord
I do think that having the Nightwings as the guaranteed opponent in the Lib Rites takes some of the risk away from the game, for sure
civic birch
yeah! yeah, it ... especially if you're playing on a lower difficulty where the AI are kinda stupid it almost feels like bullying
young fjord
But at the same time, I know they are trying to balance it against narrative
spark cloud
yeah in that case i think the story was just too tightly scripted and they had to make sure you got to a lib rite each time
civic birch
that ... doesn't make any sense to me, though? the whole point is "failure won't break your game"
that should also apply to lib rites
young fjord
Pyre was definitely experimental in a lot of ways. It's very much in the visual novel vein, but with more player agency than you might expect
spark cloud
lib rights are emotional climaxes of the story
civic birch
that DOES also apply to lib rites
spark cloud
and the final rib rite is the climax of the entire overaching plot
civic birch
i mean, there'd for sure be a way to script it so you necessarily make it to that one. i don't know
make ||the late-round irregularities|| play in more heavily. i don't know
i'm not sure exactly how to fix it, but I know there was a lot about the game that I just found tedious or frustrating rather than emotionally satisfying
spark cloud
idk a lot of people react badly to games tweaking dynamic difficulty under the hood, feels like the game is "going easy" on them, but i could imagine a plot reason for the final lib rite to be guaranteed
oralech punched all the other teams unconscious
spark cloud
he seems like a practical guy though, not sure if he would risk actively making liberation harder for himself just to Be Dramatic
upbeat sage
practical sure, but absolutely ruthless if he wants something
spark cloud
he wants freedom above everything else, manipulate the rites to face the pyrehearts or something
upbeat sage
^^^
civic birch
especially when the Rites start rolling around faster, that's ... really when the tedium started to set in and the stakes start to feel negligible
i kinda wish they'd stuck more with the oregon-trail mechanical aspects of the first arc&that were originally planned for the game -- I think spending more time navigating the Downside on a purgatory roadtrip with your friends would ... i don't know! i don't know
god i wish i could explain what didn't work for me
because a lot of the game DID it's just
i don't know
ugh
spark cloud
no yeah the late game grind is a very common and fair criticism
personally i would have liked the late game to have more introspective character moments, really up the melancholy now that your fav characters are liberated
but most of the late game VN segments is tariq or volfred dumping exposition on you
young fjord
I'm just nodding my head in the background over here
spark cloud
like heeey, there are characters you maybe didn't bond with immediately, but now they're your only companions, why not get to know gloomy snake grandma better
young fjord
I loved Bertrude 😛
spark cloud
i took a test and apparently bertrude is my second favourite logan character
civic birch
OOPS
i don't have a verbal filter sorry about that
I DO LOVE BIG BERTRUDE THOUGH ...
bog-crones are just GOOD
feral science lesbians? sign me UP
it's me. i wanna be a feral science lesbian who lives in a bog and blows stuff up
spark cloud
the dream
civic birch
hee
civic birch
one of the things i really DO love about Pyre is the whole setup of commonwealth vs downside
where the society that prides itself on "mercy" and "kinship" is such a crapsack dystopia that you can find more love & freedom & family in the hostile purgatory plane
thick carbon
The most powerful and emblematic line in the game, to me, is “What does freedom mean to you?” The way in which volfred responds is also very thematic and I believe it influences most of the story
young fjord
I agree with that, but at the same time I feel like the questions that you are asked throughout the game have far less impact than I would like
civic birch
nods nods
thick carbon
Yeah imo it’s mostly just to make it so you interact with your fellow exiles more than like develop lasting effects
EXCEPT FOR RUKEYS STACHE THATS A PERMANENT CHOICE AND UR EVIL IF YOU TELL HIM TO SHAVE
thick carbon
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civic birch
I do with there were more questions that let you impact the game/character reactions. Even scenes like Hedwyn asking you to pick what he should cook ... !
that's one of my favorites because it's one of the ones that feels like the Reader is actually a person in the blackwagon
rather than ... like ... a person-shaped receptacle for exposition
thick carbon
Yeah that’s fair, most of that kind of content is only found in the black wagon and it’s very optional
Just day to day life in the black wagon is interesting to me
thick carbon
Like it’s hard for me to parse a lot of textposition about the scribes/book of rites and while I find it interesting the cooking scene is kind of more relatable and displays how the Reader and other exiles interact
And those characters are stronger imo
civic birch
vigorous nodding
hollow steppe
||Just got to the part where Volfred speaks in actual english and says "I too can read, my boy... Forbidden though the words may be." and I'm shook, hearing characters actually speak english is so insane||
midnight hawk
it is Such a good scene
hollow steppe
RIGHT!?!?!
torn bolt
i'm still so 
about how english exists in sahr/the downside,
worlds at least somewhat implied to be Flat,
spark cloud
words are flat?
hollow steppe
It makes sense to me, English could have been the common language, before literacy was abolished, and a mix between root languages could have arisen as a new common language, with no written counterpart
hollow steppe
(Multiple characters use english in certain instances, Manley says "much better" with a heavy commonwealth accent after removing his mask)
Is it implied to be completely flat, or like a flat expanse like the salt flats or a desert
naive fern
and then the fall of soliam being something that sort of runs between planes, perhaps, explaining why it's so hard to travel between the two despite the existence of flying machines
mild falcon
ooh, does anyone have the manley english clip?
https://imgur.com/Brgxwoq world is flat image (credit failerv1)
pliant sigil
flat earth real
civic birch
I thought the Sclorian led into the fall of soliam? And I was always confused by that because it's definitely not where most exiles arrive in the Downside
But soliam sailed down the Sclorian and fell into the Downside so ... ???
torn bolt
i was picturing it as two pancakes
one is above the other
but also..........you're right, different stars?
mild falcon
sclorian and fall are definitely in diff places... i think
civic birch
I thought the stars were the same?
mild falcon
You posted it most recently lol
spark cloud
my conspiracy theory
(not serious)
reader wearing a tinfoil hood cape: wake up exiles the commonwealth doesn't want you to know about the double hollow downside
civic birch
hjklkdjlhfkjhdf
it definitely does seem like it's possible to see SOME of the commonwealth sky from the downside
civic birch
DOWNSIDE TWO
civic birch
we need to go deeper
hollow steppe
They dont work like tardis' either, they just keep getting smaller
If you get sent to the smallest downside you just get crumpled up like a piece of paper
civic birch
Oh No
mild falcon
Each of the different rites in the deeper sides are based on different sports
civic birch
the rites in Downside Two are based on cricket and that's why nobody's ever heard of Downside Two
because cricket is incomprehensible
leaden solstice
spark cloud
each downside rite is associated with a different smaller sport
downside 1: basketball
downside 2: mini golf
downside 3: foosball
downside 4: thumb wrestling
wary coral
Downside 5: staring contest
torn bolt
which downside is The Game(tm)
mild falcon
delet this
naive fern
sclorian has to be down in the bottom of the map, right?
since that's where we the Reader starts?
mild falcon
bottom in what context
civic birch
like, southerly as the Downside is concerned
because the first arc of the game is mostly travelling north
hollow steppe
As you get further into the ever-deepening pit of downsides it gets into the weirder games, dating sims, theme park simulators, eventually it comes full circle and the exiles are playing Pyre to get back to the commonwealth
civic birch
What layer of the Downside is monster factory
hollow steppe
The fancy capital letters in the prompts sometimes throw me off, i thought my prompt was "Heck with the lone minstrel" and i laughed my ass off
hollow steppe
😂
I think i'm part bird, I don't know why but tapping on the walls of the blackwagon and the glass and trinkets in there just amuses me too much
Ok, i can't say bird names. so parrots and weird screamy birbs do that a lot
(I can't type C Ockatiel
median rivet
I'm asking myself : Is there a god in Pyre?
spark cloud
Yslach is the only god you need
midnight hawk
there's the scribes, and something star related as spiritualities
i don't think they have a monotheistic god
spark cloud
Scribes have sorta ascended to divinity status yeah
median rivet
I made Udmildhe return to the commonwealth, I'm really excited to see the ending XD
vestal bluff
Tariq and Celeste could very well be demi-gods, given that they seem to be unaging
median rivet
It is funny to see that in a world so inspired by christianism there is not a real God but it feels ok
U're true @vestal bluff
mild falcon
what parts of the game would you say is inspired by christianity?
I see a lot of pagan influences
median rivet
Yes too. There is a lot of stained glass too and the book makes me think of the bible
hollow steppe
I think the hardest thing about playing pyre right now is the fact that my mouse's battery is dying so the characters will charge up an attack and just sit there
midnight hawk
rip
hollow steppe
indeed
vestal bluff
"The Eight Scribes gave their freedom, so that we may yet have ours" might be what Miari is referring to, re:Christianity's influence
That same self-sacrifice-to-purge-sins idea is rather prominent in Christian works
spark cloud
The scribes pre ascension have more of a folkloric hero feel to me
hollow steppe
Ok so i switched out the batteries on my mouse. still unable to attack reliably... is this a common bug?
vestal bluff
This is a sign your mouse is dying. This actually happened to me too! Pyre is good at showing you when a mouse is about to die, I guess!?
median rivet
U can loose and discover what funny ending u'll have, like me XD
civic birch
Yeah, there's no God in the commonwealth -- Scribes are more folk heroes/legends than gods
The most popular/officially supported religion in the Commonwealth is astralism, a form of star-worship, which iirc only comes up in one or two mouseover prompts
So we only know a little bit about it
It seems to be, like, combined star/ancestor worship? There's the belief that people are reborn as stars after death, and a bright/notable life will produce a brighter star
vestal bluff
That itself is definitely derived from the Scribes’ teachings too
It’s mentioned in Dalbert’s epilogue that, we’re there any stars left in the downside, his star would burn bright among them
(Don’t recall the exact phrasing, but it’s something like that)
wide river
Would that the stars yet shone, for surely Dalbert's would be there among them, smiling down at his son, and watching over him and his kin.
last line of almer's epilogue
civic birch
😭
thick carbon
wait is this implying dalbert died after the events of the game? :(
pour one out for dog dad....
civic birch
i mean, he was pretty old
wide river
it's not just implied
if almer is liberated, dalbert dies before the final rite; if almer isn't liberated, dalbert dies shortly after the final rite
civic birch
oh no, really?
wide river
mhm
civic birch
thank you proxybot for my life
wide river
liberated: The elderly Dalbert Oldheart, having achieved his goal of earning back his son's freedom, retired from the Rites. By the time the cycle of the Rites had reached its end, Dalbert's time had come, as well.
remained: Sometime after the Rites had ended, the Oldhearts at last heard the news that the Commonwealth had fallen. [...] Dalbert Oldheart passed peacefully in his sleep before the next new moon.
civic birch
i knew it was canon he died but i didn't know it could happen within the scope of the game
aw ...
i like the implication that he was hanging on for some good news so he could pass peacefully
if not almer's freedom, the fall of that got dang commonwealth
wide river
yup
it's said the news "brought him much joy"
the real sad part is that liberated!almer doesn't hear his dad is dead until quite a while after the fact
thick carbon
oh no....
mild falcon
i wouldnt want to be the imp tasked with delivering that news
wide river
Almer did not learn of this until much later. Surely Dalbert would have wanted it that way; would that he could have seen his son during this vital time.
civic birch
every character in the "savage" class has my whole heart they're All Good
just some feral friends and pals
torn bolt
dalbert and almer are the only Entirely Good opponents
jomuer would have absolutely no complaints
civic birch
dalbert and almer GOOD
iggy would be fine if he'd stop hitting on jodariel
i like him anyway though
leaden solstice
I think Jodi secretly likes it :))
civic birch
😬 mm. i don't
mild falcon
it's unsolicited is the problem
civic birch
there's nothing even slightly ambiguous about "stop it. go away"
leaden solstice
Hmm
civic birch
what is it she says? "i would rather cut out my tongue than join your triumvirate"?
onyx forum
yeah something like that
civic birch
that's Pretty Clear
leaden solstice
Hahaha, it's been a while since I played through the single player
But I always imagined demons would not be the buy flowers and send letters kinda people
onyx forum
i know the dynamic has fans but im not one for it
civic birch
the idea of being hit on by a guy, telling him explicitly "shut up and leave me alone, i have zero interest in you", and him going "aww, you secretly like it" and having him persist is um
terrifying
onyx forum
yeah. yeah yeah
leaden solstice
onyx forum
oralech voice why would u buy the flowers....when you can flirt directly to the flowers...................[galaxy brain.png]
leaden solstice
As I said, I have not played the single player in a while, but is jodie not blunt to everyone at the start? I take back that they would be a good fit, but I can imagine her approaching any kind of interest extremely bluntly
onyx forum
ahhh yeah.... shes gruff, but she isnt directly antagonistic is the thing
civic birch
the Reader can tell them they "care for her", and she's a lot gentler about letting them down
she says something like "i appreciate your feelings, but we must draw a boundary there"
onyx forum
its a common trope tbh, the ol 'wear her down', it s just not everyones cup o tea yfeel
mild falcon
it's not as if any character makes advances on her after she gives her signals, apart from iggy
young fjord
Aw man, I told Jodi I cared for her but my intent was in like, a platonic fashion and I guess I misread the intent of the prompt, and then she did the let down conversation and I was all, "nonono that's not what I meant!"
leaden solstice
😄
onyx forum
congrats i think youre the only person to do that hjfvhjfhj
spiral osprey
oh are we talking about jodiggy
yeah as someone who's been on the receiving end of that kind of treatment from "friends" several times in my life i don't have any patience for it but you know, if you enjoy it, that's valid
civic birch
asfdgf i absolutely meant "care for" romantically and i was so disappointed
onyx forum
SAME
spiral osprey
i did too dont worry
onyx forum
we are all. loves jodi
civic birch
we are all! loves jodi!
young fjord
I would love more aromantic options 😛
dusk current
We are all loves Jodi. 😭
onyx forum
i understand bc im barely older than ae, so like, i get it, even less on first run, but a kam can dream
onyx forum
gilmanreader secret route
mild falcon
is the reader canonically ugly or something?
onyx forum
NO
civic birch
someone make us the pyre dating sim we deserve
upbeat sage
The reader is you
spiral osprey
no i think jodi just
adopts you
leaden solstice
Hahaha
spiral osprey
hey bird i have some good news and some bad news
civic birch
oh no
leaden solstice
Like that game monster prom
onyx forum
jodi: im your mom not your wife
leaden solstice
but with pyre characters
spiral osprey
kam should i post the "dating sim"
upbeat sage
dating sim 
civic birch
i think with Jodi it's like ... yeah for a younger Reader it's like "i'm your mom not your girlfriend", or for an older Reader it's like ... she's afraid of creating Team Friction
when the Reader is in the decisionmaking position they are, being romantically involved w/ them, even if Jodi does reciprocate their feelings, would be .... Complicating
onyx forum
if ur reader is old enough for her.............................postgame time.....no reason not to 👀
yeessss
civic birch
oh No
onyx forum
oh yes
mild falcon
no reason not to... if you're on the same side of the world that is
civic birch
oh it's for pc 😔 tragic
civic birch
👀
civic birch
nice
leaden solstice
I'm sorry
leaden solstice
This all makes me want more games in the pyre universe so badly
Imagine a turn based final fantasy tactics like game
Or a civ like game, where you have to manage commonwealth and downside
civic birch
PYRE CIV??? I'M INTO IT
wide river
jkhfksj huh
onyx forum
HEDWYN LOVER ALERT
torn bolt
i think as a guy........it is gay, actually
wide river
literally i was zoned out and scrolling so far down twitter i frgot time existed
are we talking about hedwyn
torn bolt
yesss
wide river
i'm always down to talk about my favourite boy
onyx forum
hghjfjfj are u seeing those met loox
wide river
i am but i'm sick of the same three pictures oveer and over
spiral osprey
also just for future reference i'm going to tap that meme with a gentle 
mild falcon
what if hedwyn... had frosted tips
civic birch
hKLGKJHGLKJH
torn bolt
oh god
leaden solstice
civic birch
HEDWYN'S DINERS DRIVE-INS AND DIVES
torn bolt
how does he get them done in the downside
wide river
nevermind i'm going back to twitter if you're going to curse my boy like this
torn bolt
does ti'zo do them? is it pamitha?
mild falcon
there's gotta be some bleach equivalent
torn bolt
nnnoo come back
leaden solstice
Yea for sure
wide river
i say, as if i didn't turn him blonde once for a laff
torn bolt
i mean lendel has blue hair?
mild falcon
bertrude would have the right materials, surely
spiral osprey
harps have colorful hair too tho
wide river
also did bubblegum pink oralech one time too
onyx forum
its natural he has anime protag disease
civic birch
all the harps have technicolor hair too
spiral osprey
and humans are theoretically descended from harps or something
civic birch
SHOW US PINK ORALECH
spiral osprey
so maybe humans just have a wider range of hair colors in pyreworld
civic birch
they have a common ancestor, technically , but yeah
onyx forum
mjgjgjkgjk it means ur closer 2 harp
civic birch
you've activated my trap card: biology
mild falcon
i gave hedwyn "miku hair", so anything is possible
wide river
torn bolt
YESS
onyx forum
stylish
torn bolt
he looks GOOd
civic birch
OH HE PINK
onyx forum
him 🅱ink
leaden solstice
That is a STATEMENT
wide river
blonde hedwyn also
onyx forum
terible
wide river
wrong and bad.
civic birch
Also yeah harp hair is -- OOGH
leaden solstice
civic birch
LEMON HEDWYN
spiral osprey
i thought it was described as humans giving up their wings or something and harps staying the same???
i mean i guess "realistically" it would have to be far enough back that it was a common genetic ancestor but like, magic exists, in this world, so
onyx forum
ledwyn hedwyn
wide river
i wish i still had that lendel animation where his eyes blink out-of-sync with each other
spiral osprey
several people are typing
young fjord
Jodi dating sim ||Jodariel: YOU DIED 
|| 
torn bolt
bird remember our take of humans w claw feet like harps
onyx forum
good
civic birch
YEAH THAT'S A GOOD TAKE
onyx forum
objectively good take
civic birch
I still also want nictitating eyelids
spiral osprey
jen cant decide if harps have bird or human feet so it's our city now
onyx forum
eyelid do what
wide river
anyway if we're talking pyre dating sims does that mean i get to shove my photoshops in people's faces again like a new parent with baby photos
spiral osprey
a second eyelid, kam
civic birch
^^
torn bolt
or my other better take of harps w handfeet like monkeys
wide river
yessssss
leaden solstice
@wide river Yes please
civic birch
Also I think ha'ub refers to it as the "parable of the common ancestor" but, yeah, there's no reason all the minutia of biology should apply
leaden solstice
civic birch
... I just want them to 'cause that's my field :P
spiral osprey
you're SO valid what do you think about saps
i personally think they're tree mimics
ambush predators that stood very still and ate like birds and stuff
civic birch
Ooh that's a good one!
young fjord
That's a deep rooted theory
wide river
i like the idea that saps don't die they just plant their roots and actually become trees
civic birch
Oh that's mine! Unless it existed earlier
leaden solstice
So, if you're standing in a forest, it could be a graveyard?
mild falcon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251839600111124481/481009859878191104/unknown.png my personal harp theory thats consistent with all the art
young fjord
New saps are born when an old, "dead" sap is cut down and saplings grow out of its stump
leaden solstice
That is one cursed picture
civic birch
I have no idea if I originated it but I Did write a lifespan post with that headcanon for saps
Hmm! Don't like that
spiral osprey
yeah the idea has bounced around before
civic birch
😄 great minds think alike i guess
onyx forum
oh very bad image
spiral osprey
we do have a rough-ish estimate for sap lifespan based on volfred
the literacy ban was implemented like 200 years ago
and i have it on good faith that volf was alive but fairly young then
if he's middle aged now, just based on appearance/age coding, that would put average sap lifespan around like 375-400 years
civic birch
& he's, like, middle-aged now, righ - yeah
mild falcon
all these saps have old fashioned ideas that arent compatible with modern times, such as "reading should be legal"
civic birch
i tend to put them at more like 400-600, but definitely Several Centuries
spiral osprey
that was honestly my first hint that volf was probably born before the literacy ban gfkghf
civic birch
asdfghjg i have a Sap OC who was already middle-aged/old when the literacy ban was implemented and just didn't care enough to change her ways
spiral osprey
just, the likelihood of being literate is much higher if he'd been born before the ban
and crones seem like they can basically live as long as they will themselves too lol
young fjord
Is a Sap reading from a book like a person reading from pages of flesh?
spiral osprey
you say that like it's a wild thing, wight, but vellum is a thing
onyx forum
lendel is like. cat (wink) im a kity cat
no its like reading a book bound in cow leather
ok yeah and that
young fjord
I'm aware of the history of "paper"
onyx forum
like...tree trees r probably lesser 2 saps...like animals or something
young fjord
Fair point
onyx forum
ah sounds familiar
spiral osprey
not unintelligent, per se, not un-alive, but definitely not the same
leaden solstice
God, all of this makes me want to replay pyre
onyx forum
do it
leaden solstice
True nightwing mode here I come
onyx forum
sap farmers tending to crops with a totally diff angle than nonsaps...
mild falcon
what if some saps dont believe in evolution "you mean to tell us that our proud species decended from these immobile plants?"
wide river
[sticks my legy up real high] okay whomst here gay for jodariel
spiral osprey
if they're tree mimics then they aren't descended from trees but actually evolved to look like them 👀
onyx forum
meeee
torn bolt
saps probably go into forest management stuff rather than clear cut farming
spiral osprey
meeee
wide river
here, i took a hammer and Fixed That Scene™
civic birch
IM GAY FOR JODI
wide river
leaden solstice
I would sisterzone Jodi
wide river
(please click, imgur previews one image and not even the first it's SO DUMB)
civic birch
😭 SPARROWS YOU'VE SAVED MY LIFE
onyx forum
you fixed
civic birch
THIS HEALED ... MY GAY LITTLE BROKEN HEART ... THANK YOU
onyx forum
⚒ 
civic birch
also ven I like to think of saps as true Treeple, just because of the opportunities for Weird Biology ... photosynthesis ... roots ...
spark cloud
oh how deep the sap headcanons go.....
wide river
i also have like two fluffy hedwyn scenes and one Big Confession Moment if anyone would like those
onyx forum
theyre so rich w ideas
civic birch
POST POST POST POST
wide river
bc for a while my go-to thing when i got bored was to pseudo-write fanfic using photoshop and my dialogue templates lmao
leaden solstice
torn bolt
please PLEASE HEDWYN
civic birch
sap vs sap warfare taking place on an ecological scale, with allelopathy and the poisoning of water supplies and the disruption of root networks
leaden solstice
Sounds like a more productive waste of time than reddit
spark cloud
@slow crater this is relevant to your interests
wide river
OKAY SO fluff 1 feat. reminiscing on the start of the journey: https://imgur.com/a/6HBj9
fluff 2 with a little bit of sadness thinking back on the commonwealth: https://imgur.com/a/g20Z2
spiral osprey
but bird if they photosynthesize they must do a crappy job of it, they have like no visible chlorophyll
wide river
I USE IT CONSTANTLY I LOVE HIM
spiral osprey
PLUS they're mobile
torn bolt
I LOVE THE HIM!
onyx forum
omnivorous plus
civic birch
/shrug, waves hands
spiral osprey
it takes a lot of energy to be mobile and have Brain
onyx forum
they get the food and the sun
onyx forum
a sap can and will eat you
onyx forum
you are already dead. a sap has already eaten you
spiral osprey
there's a reason the cw is still wary of the woods gkjdfgd
civic birch
oh i ABSOLUTELY headcanon that the westerly woods used to be a Death Forest
wide river
i get the same feeling looking at manley as i do when looking at a teacup-sized poodle and thinking "you used to be a wolf once."
onyx forum
bhvhjvhgjfvhjfjfj
civic birch
you walk in and you just don't walk out and people learned to avoid it after a while
onyx forum
scary stories of children lost in the woods
civic birch
i have this whole headcanon about how sap first contact happened oops
leaden solstice
I have never done anything of the sort, but I am suddenly super in the mood for dungeons and downside
onyx forum
esp if ur somethin tiny like a cur or wyrm
a cur is just a lil meatball to an Olde Sap
civic birch
hot take: saps can & will eat people but not via their visible mouths
wide river
alsooooooooooooooo hedwyn confession time feat. more blushing and also it's at the ridge of gol again because it was the only suitable screencap i had at the time don't call me out like this oKAY https://imgur.com/a/xba9C
torn bolt
:0
spiral osprey
what u think they take the time to turn their food into fertilizer first
wide river
"hold up i just gotta bury my lunch"
leaden solstice
Does that include rites Stephen? Or just the world in general
civic birch
almost like an octopus but instead of having a beak they just kinda roll over it and churn it up into the ground
it's free blood meal
spiral osprey
wild
onyx forum
OH YOU MEAN THEY CHOP IT UP RIGHT THERE 😱
spiral osprey
they'd have to be stationary for a long time to absorb that
torn bolt
my idea is for a campaign that's a mix of rites and Downside Adventures
onyx forum
root knives ghfghdgh
leaden solstice
Sounds awesome!
onyx forum
sap 🤝 crone
spiral osprey
that's largely because they're cold-blooded though 🤔 are saps cold-blooded
civic birch
SAP AND CRONE SOLIDARITY IS GOOD
onyx forum
wait are they...
civic birch
do they have blood is the question
leaden solstice
Are saps even blooded
spiral osprey
ok
civic birch
i mean if they're treeple
onyx forum
sticky blooded
spiral osprey
or do they have to rely on the environment
spiral osprey
because that's another big part of metabolism
civic birch
you head up mount alodiel & volfred is like hmm! time for me to take a nap
wake me up when we hit moonlight alcove
spiral osprey
gkjhgkdfhg that would be inconvenient
mild falcon
wait theres like 3 or 4 coldblooded nightwings...
civic birch
rip the og nightwings. you got a new Reader but he's useless at the actual lib rites
cos he's too groggy
onyx forum
all the coldblooded nightwings gota huddle w you for warmth
mild falcon
big hug ❤
wide river
bertrude, with all her snakes wrapped around her like a scarf: >:|
civic birch
we cracked the code guys
civic birch
also cake who's coldblooded besides bertrude and volf? i can imagine sir gilman but who's the last one
onyx forum
hes just big weighted scarf...............................
leaden solstice
I feel like gilman is not the best hugging target
mild falcon
i dont know anything about birds tbh
onyx forum
yes he is what do you mean
civic birch
birds are Very warm-blooded, they run super hot
onyx forum
wrap that gilman around my shoulders =w=
civic birch
need a fast metabolism for all that flight energy
onyx forum
pam warm...
mild falcon
pam warmm
civic birch
does a cool jig independently evolved four-chambered heaaaaaarts!
onyx forum
me: hugs pam
bertrude: you dont need that sssstep asssside
wide river
pam sleeps on the roof she's gotta be warm!!
civic birch
OR SNUG
onyx forum
SNUG!!!!
civic birch
i want a snake hug (snug) from bertrude
leaden solstice
Snuggling up with Pamitha: You heart is beating so fast!!
Tfw birds have a heart rate of 300 on average
civic birch
she probably doesn't run that fast
blissful trench
I wonder if wyrms are warmblooded actually? they're very high-energy
civic birch
yeah, that was my thought! a lot of predatory fishes have some degree of endothermy, which gives them the energy advantage in cold seas
salmon sharks etc
and salmon themselves actually
tuna ...
mild falcon
if they're snakish maybe they're like anacondas?
civic birch
how so?
onyx forum
wyrms constrictors?
civic birch
😰
onyx forum
evil hug from sir deluge
civic birch
NOOOOO
mild falcon
me: wear gilman as scarf
gilman: resists urge to choke
leaden solstice
Gilman would be honored to warm the readers neck
FOR GLORYYYYYYYYYYY
I would just keep giving rukey scooby snacks which would end up getting me killed probably
civic birch
wear gilman as a scarf
gilman: HAVE NO FEAR, HONORED READER! THIS KNIGHT SHALL REFRAIN FROM CRUSHING YOUR FRAGILE WINDPIPE!
reader: well i wasn't worried about that before you said it,
onyx forum
THE ULTIMATE EXPRESSION OF TRUST, MASTER-READER! THIS KNIGHT COULD KILL YOU AT ANY TIME, BUT WOULD NEVER!
leaden solstice
onyx forum
OH HAT
civic birch
OH WYRM
onyx forum
ajvoice oeh wyrm
civic birch
oh wyrrrrrrrm
blissful trench
oh wrap
leaden solstice
So yea I think we can all agree that the best possible game for supergiant to make next would pyre civilization with dating elements
torn bolt
i'd die for an eight scribes prequel game tbh
leaden solstice
would be*
torn bolt
but also id love that
civic birch
god it JUST NOW hit me how absolutely nice it must be to snuggle with pamitha
warm ... soft wings ...
leaden solstice
Even the baddies just need a hug
onyx forum
manley im down to hug
actually yknow what id hug deluge for the memes. iggy i dont trust tho
civic birch
i would give iggy a, like, bro hug
onyx forum
i would hug aj id absolutely hug aj
civic birch
an Intricate Rituals hug
onyx forum
iggy can have a pat on the back
iggys very big and would not release when i say iggy i cant breathe
torn bolt
i'd hug iggy Way Sooner than manley
civic birch
sports bros one-armed "good game man" hug
leaden solstice
Yea I wouldn't hug Iggy either, unless I got to know him a bit
don't trust him
yet
onyx forum
jodi hugs good.....
torn bolt
manley would throttle you though
civic birch
manley can get a punch in the face i don't care if it'd break my hand
onyx forum
HJFGHJFJFJ
torn bolt
also tree men don't give good hugs
civic birch
i'll break his stupid pinocchio nose off
leaden solstice
Woa woa bird calm down with the violence
spiral osprey
look
volfred would manage to give good hugs despite everything
leaden solstice
Poor Manley
civic birch
i joke, i joke
onyx forum
volfred gives best hugs
leaden solstice
Volfred seems like a hoodie kinda guy
spiral osprey
maybe my favorite kind of hug is a dad hug that lifts me four feet off the ground
spiral osprey
"kam you've seen it" the underground fic market
onyx forum
HAV I....... ghfghdgh ive forgotten it pls post again
spiral osprey
not that i'm
any better
spiral osprey
look until hades has a solid canon i refuse to publicly post ANYTHING
because it could be WRONG in a few weeks and i cant live like that
civic birch
i posted it in the gay rites discord kam!
spiral osprey
GAY RITES DISCORD....
onyx forum
when i say ive forgotten i dont mean it was unremarkable i mean im on 5% brain
civic birch
big valid
onyx forum
ty for understanting hjfhjfj
civic birch
oh no i have to edit it real quick there is one (1) curse word
onyx forum
hjgvhfhj it is the way of things
leaden solstice
Censor or bot angery :((
civic birch
it's in #fan-works
hey what do you think the etiquette on petting curs is
i feel like it's a "trusted friends only" privilege
mild falcon
definitely ask first
civic birch
try petting barker, ever, and he'll take your hand off
mild falcon
it's probably seen as disrespectful in most circles
onyx forum
yeah its probably like, Only My Trustedest Friends
blissful trench
please consider: cur couples allogrooming
mild falcon
good consider
atomic saffron
i finally got a chance to play pyre
mild falcon
like, parrot colored???
civic birch
Y YE EY EYEAEEEESSSS
oh no behaviorally
parrotlets are less social than other parrots, they only tend to travel in flocks of 5-8 and keep to themselves/their mated partner
in captivity, even with a bonded, mated pair, they shouldn't be housed together, because if they can't get their Space they'll often attack each other
sometimes fatally
mild falcon
too late, need me a colorful tizo
torn bolt
god but like. what if imps. Are Like Budgies. all one color in the wild but domesticated. colors
torn bolt
hm bird are howlers......wild or just feral?
they definitely Swarm at times.....ig that doesn't necessarily speak to their normal social habits but like
i like the potential distinction between (self)domesticated drive imps vs FERAL howlers vs ancient Wild Imps
civic birch
i think howlers are Wild b/c i'm not sure that drive-imps are, like, truly domesticated
oh i do like that distinction though 🤔
torn bolt
i don't see why they couldn't be domesticated
onyx forum
sky blu inp...
torn bolt
i guess eight hundred years isn't too long, but we do know they have rare capacity for intelligence, and an innate need for Purpose
that animals in our world don't have
civic birch
true ... yeah that's why i'm
torn bolt
also sky blu imp.....
civic birch
sky blu imp .....
i think 800 years is def enough for imps to have like. adapted to the presence of exiles, and interacting with them
hollow steppe
Based on dialogue from udmildhe, (not that she's the most reliable source) the imps and other creatures of the downside supposedly came from yslach
civic birch
doubt.png
vestal bluff
[1] Big Bertrude, 837A.S.
civic birch
aFDSFGFD
torn bolt
you cannot cite her [1] [2]
[2] molten milithe, the book of rites
milithe would Hate udmildhe
spiral osprey
gkjdhfkghdffg
civic birch
milithe: HhhhHHHHHRRRRRNGGHHHHHH,
thine ETHICS are QUESSSTIONABLE,
thy LABORATORY PROCEDURE is DISSSORDERLY,
DOST THOU EVEN LABEL THY INGREDIENTSSS?
THOU OUGHT TO BE ASSSHAMED
spiral osprey
emphasis on the "ass"
civic birch
asfdgfhdfgj
spiral osprey
*assfdgfhdfgj
civic birch
HJKGLF
spiral osprey
thank you, thank you, i get all my funny from kam
onyx forum
awawww
spiral osprey
what did you estimate imp lifespan at anyways, if ha'ub was 800 years ago and ti'zo's only his like.....great grandson?
that's a pretty long generational length
onyx forum
very big yeah
spiral osprey
ti'zo's probably like comparable to volfred in age, if not a little older
onyx forum
tizo a grandpa
spiral osprey
grandpa bibo
onyx forum
grandba...
civic birch
i took "great-grandson" as being like ...
"great(nth)-grandson" but it would be tedious & hard to list the correct number of greats
so collapse it
spiral osprey
that's also valid but doesn't tariq say like
onyx forum
isnt it more fun the other way
spiral osprey
something about ti'zo being pretty old
onyx forum
yeah
torn bolt
also how i interpreted it tbh like. great great great great etc grandson
spiral osprey
if that was the case why not say descendant
civic birch
i thought he said, like, "older than you'd think" but also that could just be, like, "ti'zo is actually thirty"
torn bolt
more poetic
spiral osprey
great grandson more poetic than descendant
onyx forum
thinkin about olddays tariq asking ultrapolitely to make a non rites stop on khaylmer isle and the ppl are like UHHH SOMETHING SPOOKY IS GOING ON but its. inp eggs abt to hatch
spiral osprey
it could be gkjdfgdf i also just like to imagine tariq and ti'zo have been friends for like a century
civic birch
OHHHHH
onyx forum
me too!!! know each other inside n out by now...
the olllld nightwings all help the inps fly away for the first time but one......sneaks into tariqs hat
civic birch
YEESSSSS
onyx forum
in true tariqian fashion he totally knows but waits a few hours to be like excuse me but we have....a situation
as if he Just Realized
spiral osprey
and then doesn't immediately say what it is, to build drama.
onyx forum
OF COURSE
civic birch
of COURSE
onyx forum
hes alreasy taken them off course, their reader is about to faint
i broke the stars
JDJFJDKG
civic birch
i will never forget tariq letting the entire nightwings think that hedwyn had just DIED
onyx forum
YES
civic birch
this is like ... his one (1) source of amusement is screwing with people
onyx forum
he loves drama n prankery hes just quiet abt it
spiral osprey
trickster god pressed into service
onyx forum
hfjfjckg
civic birch
the moon IS a trickster. always changing shape like that
spiral osprey
gjhdfkghdfkgjhdfkgjdfkh something something can't trust a guy who looks different every time you see him
civic birch
HEE
blissful trench
I am very ehre for wholesome prankster tariq
civic birch
"wholesome"
spiral osprey
""wholesome""
civic birch
HE LET US THINK HEDWYN DIED
mild falcon
im here for full moon tariq, 100% round
onyx forum
volfred kinda naturaly assumes tariq is very humorless and if he will laugh at something itll be intellectual smartjokery but he never does and then one day volfred opens the wagon door and sends an imp flying and it makes a noise like a deflating balloon and tariq is, for herald standards, in tears of laughter
SPHERIQ....
civic birch
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tariq is making sad trumpet noises
not sad but like. choking "bweeoo bbwooo bwee" noises like a trumpet that's 2/3 broken
blissful trench
Don't Starve instrument-noise dialogue
onyx forum
love the idea that a hahaha is just polite humanmasking but their true laughs are instruments
metronome noises when theyre thinkin hard abt something....tock tock tock
vestal bluff
You’re up at Scribesgate, jet-lagged to hell, being interrogated by Celeste, and when she doesn’t like what you’ve said, she’s just gonna tick at you
spiral osprey
honestly? terribly threatening
onyx forum
YEAH!!
mild falcon
hard to get a sense of scale in the world
civic birch
it's a whole multiple continents, so I assume so 🤔
hollow steppe
Ok so i'm pretty much completely stuck on the fight in the arena with the weird giant referee imps
Rukey doesn't do enough damage to counteract snake granny and her imps, and none of the other characters are fast enough/do enough damage to keep up
mild falcon
thats not an easy one
i cant remember, but i think the characters you're facing have relatively low hope
maybe playing it defensive until enough of your opponents are out might be the path to take if aggro doesnt work
sand relic
Hi ^^
I was wondering if there any shops where I could buy some Pyre merch like a poster or a Ti'zo plush toy? I'm from Spain but I'm willing to pay for the shipping :3
wide river
lavish ridge
the ti’zo plush is absolutely worth it
south whale
Does anybody know of any Pyre fanfic out there? I'd like to try writing some, but I'd like to know what the community's done already
thick carbon
I remember reading one where the whole band met rukeys parents and had dinner after the events of the game that I really liked but don’t know where it went :(
south whale
Alright, thanks. I imagine it'll be a hassle to search through the fanworks channel, but I'll give it a shot
wide river
there's also a whole load of stuff on archive of our own
leaden solstice
Could I read them? I love the pyre universe and the ones I read were super charming
long holly
oh god why haven't i thought of this
pyre fanfic of course there exists pyre fanfic
O_o
vestal bluff
There exists a whole ton of it
long holly
D:
vestal bluff
People have written Readers from other perspectives too
vestal bluff
There's one particular, multi-part series about "What if Manley and the Chastity found the Reader instead of the Nightwings"
Forget the title, but it's pretty in-depth
And cosplayers have def made physical Books before too!
late basin
I met a pyre cosplayer with a physical book a few weeks ago
long holly
but with all the text :}
late basin
the writing wasn't finished, but i think she intended to do it until the next con
long holly
sheesh
vestal bluff
That's next-level
long holly
cosplayers are dedicated to their craft for sure
sand relic
@wide river Thank you!!!
civic birch
There's a REAL good in-progress duo.
called Roots/Fruits that goes more in-depth into the Commonwealth, Volfred's personal history, the OG Nightwings and the genesis of the Plan
midnight hawk
roots is So good
civic birch
IT RLLY IS
I just love that clenches fist sweet, sweet worldbuilding
The one subsection that's entirely about how important Bertrude is, personally & practically, to the revolution? chef kiss while crying
The details about how the Commonwealth even HANDLES bureacracy and higher education without literacy .... MMM I CRAVE THE LEGITIMACY OF ORAL MNEMONICS AND TRADITION!!!!!
hollow steppe
I based a lot of the races in my own game off of Pyre's aesthetic
There are mini-sand-harps called Gamayu and kind of feathery/fluffy demons and stuff like that
midnight hawk
@civic birch and the parts about the oppression people face under the commonwealth rule like god that is some good stuff
civic birch
YEAHHHHHHHH
the narration abt like ... volfred watching CW restrictions tighten & tighten, across "generations" for shorter-lived peoples but within his own lifetime ... damn, chills
civic birch
Tangentially, one of these days I really gotta get around
To writing my Nightwings postcanon death/ascension fic ...
mild falcon
i was thinkin about one where the reader really does leave when volfred urges them to
and then goes to the withdrawn
civic birch
👀 oh jeez
mild falcon
makes things REAL interesting
civic birch
I haven't seen that one around
mild falcon
i havent written it yet lol
mild falcon
I'd have to study character speech patterns,,, i wonder whats the best way to do that
(play pyre again?)
civic birch
(prolly :P)
mild falcon
or maybe ill just read these fics so i can assimilate other people's takes on the characters
mild falcon
ok the scope of this idea in my head has increased hugely, so either it'll be a masterpiece or you'll never hear of it again
civic birch
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