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Since they don’t technically have a jump you can flight cancel it while gaining a speed boost and then dash cancel it from there
Savages can use jump to go farther than powerjumps with the gap leading to some interesting movement
i fought oralech there, and got absolutely demolished
Yeah that jump ability with his presence makes him scary
Quick, weird kinda question- what kind of legs do Harps have?
Are they human legs? Birdlike legs? Something in between?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
the one shot of pamitha in the credits shows her with human-y legs but It's Up To Interpretation
i think harps are cooler when they have bird legs so in my head they have bird legs
Oh! I didn't know that, time to look through the credits.
here, i'll send you the image
Thanks!
I also still ponder how she's able to hold that flask with her arms as they are.
the force#
Effort
i drank from that flask too much
all in a desperate attempt to hang out with Pamitha more >.<
It's not like the bell
Doom kept messing with Bertrude's cards to see what would happen but nothing did
After dragging my first playthrough wayyyyy too long, I'm finally done with the game and loved it 
^_^
Was just wondering if I'm alone in basically loving Sandra as a character xD
seriously! she's so much fun
no we love and appreciate orb wife 
^
@wicked orbit I sent an email to them not too long ago asking about porting Pyre to Switch. They said they currently have no plans to do so, as they’re trying to focus on Hades, but it’s still up for consideration for when they finish. It was the answer I was expecting, but still a bit of a disappointment.
It’s a small team, and only so much time
Heck with it, I'm making Poker Night in the Blackwagon on Python.
Probably going to find some unresolvable error in my implementation then trash the whole thing in a couple of weeks, but on the off chance I don't I'll let you guys know
Using pygame? I've worked the kinks out of that engine, if you need some troubleshooting help
Nah, I'll just make a text-based one.
Desperately tries to ignore voice in head telling me that going outside comfort zone would be good for me as a programmer
Maybe I'll try giving it a graphical upgrade with PyGame once I've got all the systems working in the text based one
DoomhammerLast Sunday at 3:40 PM Sandra is pretty great Wants to be left alone but doesn't
Sandra more like... I was gonna say "Sandere" but "tsun" is the important part in that word and I'm p sure "san" would make it something else even if it were a nonsense combination
tsundra doesn't really work either
tsandere?
i like it
sandra is good
but jodariel is more gooder
if we dont get an official supergiant dating sim by 2025 i will get infected with the big sad
Anyone know what the pyre update was about?
patch notes should be on steam
update to dotNet distributable
some file called installscript.vdf, not anything game related it doesn't look like
Sandra is good.
Jodariel is gooder.
Gilman is goodest.
false
He's just so happy and nice. And also the best character in the game. The only reason I managed to get above 50% win ratio on true nightwing with all Titan Stars enabled.
Jodariel could kill me with their bare hands and that's an okay way to go
how do you win with gilman? whats the gilman strat
Get the orb and go fast
oh, thats my imp strat
GOTTA FAST
He's really fast and while he doesn't throw the orb far, he charges his throw nearly instantly, which means you just press the throw button next to the enemy pyre and deal the regular amount of damage while keeping all three of your characters.
That's the main thing
He plays as if he's going to dive, but you keep him in the next round
His speed makes him the best to cheese enemies, too, which is really important on that difficulty. And his small size means he's less likely to get ruined by the huge boosted presence of the opponents.
This too. If an opponent has the orb, hang out in front of them. Chances are they'll throw it to Gilman to get their aura back, but he's off to the races before they can cast it at him
Ye ye
And if you're on Hulk of Ores you just exploit the movement
Cause you can do this with Gilman as well just a bit harder to anglehttps://twitter.com/PlatTechCF/status/1081085754946797568
Hulk of Ores could yeah to some interesting movement options, works with Demon dash, Imp zip, Savage jump (dash at the right angles), Harp flight, and Crone jump/dash https://t.co/6URcQ8sM7N
Movement tech on this map is dumb
Need to see what potential there is on the Withdrawn map since the outer edge bounces you
Are Tizo's eyes supposed to be like a brownish grey or orange kinda color? Can't really tell tbh
The outer bit before the black part
what is the means by which someone is cast into the downside
if you get out by hopping into the shimmer-pool, then...
it's not like you're picked up with a crane and then dropped in
they just yeet you with a parachute
get thrown in the river, don't you?
u get in a cage and aj hits u w his gavel like hes playing golf
you can also see them in the foreground at the fall of soliam
tossed in a river is one thing. held up in a cage and THEN tossed in a river is just brutal
I think that’s the thing. It’s not explicitly an execution but it may as well be
Soliam Murr got there via a river didn’t he
A lot of people don't survive the fall.
Yooo
Question
Someone on the steam community forums mentioned in a translation thread that a lot of the characters seem to have accents, I was wondering if anyone caught the accent of sir gilman?
I don’t know if it was mentioned at all
im not sure the accents necessarily have a real-life counterpart
True
if anyone would know, its probably ven or sparrow, but i dont wanna @ them because theyre not online rn
I just wanna see if there’s anything I missed about the way he talks, just because I’m making a character for something that’ll have a similar personality and speech pattern as sir gilman, just because I like it
Just because I think it’ll fit
Ironically it’s a sky/dawn-themed character I’m making
@iron heart Since Sahrian is a conlang, it's up to Greg to decide what characters sound like, and it also means that the English we see onscreen is a perfect representation of the Sahrian. So Gilman's "accent" is exactly as it appears in English! Like how he calls us the Master Reader? That's an equivalent of his pet name for the Reader, magaratus, which appears to be a portmanteau of ligaratus (reader) and an unknown word (probably related to "magna/magnus") that means "grand".
Fair enough
I meant mostly the voice acting
Someone mentioned how the voices seemed to give them accents
Greg has said that although all the characters speak the game's conlang Sahrian, they do have individual accents, but we can also assume that those accents are accurately represented in the game's text
Like, I remember someone saying that the way Jodi speaks makes her sound almost russian
Sahrian has Russian influences in it, so maybe that had something to do with it? All the voice actors are American as far as I know, though
Maybe
I dunno
Ah well
I'll just make do with the speech pattern accent
For now
The character will probably develop an accent as I rp him thou lmao
I'm sorry, I guess I don't understand what you're getting at? They're American voice actors speaking a conlang, I don't think they intentionally threw any kind of national accents onto it...
Nah its fine
I get that
Its just that someone said what you mentioned on how they have individual accents
And I remembered uhh
(Wait whos kid zomb again)
Greg!
Yeh
Greg Supergiant
I remember him replying with a sort of almost yes i think
Or it was him just sorta acknowledging the comment
I dont remember
It was on one of the sahrian question forums on steam
Yeah, i know he's said that within the conlang the different characters have accents and unique ways of speaking, and I've noticed that to a certain extent in my work with the codex
but unfortunately accents in a different language don't really carry across one to one for English so all we really have to go on is the written text...
Possibly their ways of speaking have a sort of influence from different languages, and that may be why there are accents being recognized
i imagine gilman would have this really over the top british RP accent
Like their individual lines probably have more influence from a certain language
So it comes off as an accent
probably, yeah!
i've noticed pronunciation inconsistencies even within certain characters' lines, so i doubt it's anything intentional for the most part (outside of the different word choice on a broad level)
Like, oddly I can hear the almost russian in Jodi's lines when I hear them
Like
A russian sort of accent
there are some consistencies, like, I don't remember which vowel it was but Cyrus pronounced it very consistently in a way that made it super hard to parse his lines lol
language ^^;
i can see that
Zarya from overwatch
someone draw slav jodariel
Lmao
But uhh
Is it weird that like
Remembering Rukeys voice
It makes me think of the flippin
Like every mafia boss in every movie
Like he just sounds like hes gonna make me an offer I cant refuse
ey im walkin ere
YES
RUKEY WITH A BOSTON ACCENT IM BUYIN IT
yeah that totally fits lol
im not american, i dont know lol
Yeah
Its new jersey
The jersey accent
But yeah lol
Pff
Imagine rukey yelling with a jersey accent about the bell
And then Jodi yelling at rukey in russian
Do any of them have a southern accent
Uhh
Hmm
Not that I can think of
None of them seem like the type
Sir gilman actually sounds more french
Some kind of european accent
russian rukey would work as well come to think of it
Maybe
Yes lmao
Yeah I could see that lol
Sorry
although i can't tell the difference between a canadian and an american
Canadians have like a jersey mixed with british accent I think
Sohrry
Anyways
I have to go for now
But like
cya duder
All ai can think of is
👋
weadphone harning Just thought I would clear this up so people can STOP MENTIONING IT. =LINKS= https://www.facebook.com/Kmac2021/ https://soundcloud.com/...
This is all I can think of
Now
Goobai
ttyl
Once I do most of the achievements, I'm gonna ask people what they consider the perfect story run (where you got most, if not all, the important story arcs and best endings for each character).
My perfect story would have lots of drama and maybe a failure or several
The order in which you liberate exiles would make a difference I’m sure
Perfext story is not letting Moon touched leave because people are so mean to her
Petition to let the vagabond say the f word
I don't think anyone has the power to stop her
no one has the power to stop her............ but the mods 
Yslach doesn't start with an f
All I see is "****** doesn't start with an f"
Well, all you need to know is that it definitely doesn't start with an f
Nah, the real powercast is when the Vagabond just points at an exile and shouts "ur mum gay" at the top of her lungs, instantly banishing them
The only weakness it has is that almer knows the secret technique of "no u"
If she does it to tabitha, pamitha also gets banished
Using the forbidden power against hedwyn would be ineffective because it's true and they all know it
No wait
It would banish ignarius
Opf
and Oralech knows the counter of "hell yeah she is" which turns it into an AoE aura blast
I know the perfect story run is subjective but I still want to ask. To you guys, does it include quality time with Sandra and letting Oralech win the final rite but tell him the plan so he doesn't kill himself?
And letting the Moon-Touched remain at the Downside because I'm not letting Almer be liberated?
I always spent time with Sandra but I let Oralech die bc I didn’t know there was any other way
I was a fool 😩
see I tried to free Xae for my final liberation rite, and bc she insisted I go... I went
To me, best run is happy Sandra, Volfred, Ti'zo and Oralech happy in the downside as old pals, Jodi, Hedwyn, Rukey and me free (to fulfill Hedwyn's promise), Fae free too because can't separate her from Jodi, Almer free so he can be with Fae. There is still one more spot, and I'd probably go for Pam, so she can be away from her sister, and because Bertrude is fine as long as she's with Volfred and Gilman is usually fine in the Downside too.
I still need to do that one, too. Last run I did was a ultra-hardcore run in True Nightwing with all stars active. To make it more awful, I went full evil reader, shaving Rukey's moustache, lost every Liberation Rite on purpose (well, those that I would have won, at least... couldn't have won against Udmildhe no matter what, same with Lendel), and when I lost the last Lib Rite on purpose, I forced Oralech to let me go in his place, making me the only Nightwing to go free. It was an emotionally painful playthrough, but really fulfilling gameplay-wise.
It's gonna be interesting to think about, I agree. A perfect run does mean losing some liberations.
The Old Nightwings being together does sound nice. Not as perfect if I stay behind with Sandra to let Oralech go top with Volfred and Ti'zo?
Well
The achievement for losing a liberation rite is called "Mercy shown"
I always thought that Rukey and Gilman should be together
So the main priority for the perfect story are relationships, and who goes to top are secondary
Old Nightwings together is great. I'm just thinking if the world on top would be better if we let Volfred lead it with both the old and new nightwings. BUT I do guess Hedwin will be extremely sad without the Reader on top with the new nightwings.
it also sounds more poetic though if Tizo and Volfred face against Oralech and stay there with him
That's one thing I like about this game
reminder as well that we're meant to lose to Oralech too with Tizo and Volfred
There are a lot of different ending that you could call perfect
There's one ending I'm trying to achieve that I'm curious about
Story-heavy games with multiple character paths and endings, I usually do a "Perfect Story" run.
One of those games for me was Papers, Please. But that's easier to know the best paths compared to Pyre
Reader: "Yo AJ where do I go to get outta the downside?"
AJ: "Take the third exit on the rite"

I like keeping the main gang up top with Mae and Almer. The "true nightwings" staying down with Bertrude and Gilman is also best, it also fits with the new replacing the old and stuff. Pam I actually would keep down cause if I remember correctly she has nice interactions with Bertrude in the downside. Plus despite the fight pam and tam do get back on speaking terms when they stay together. The last spot? I personally would give to Ignarius for the sweet relationship bonus. After that the only big thing your missing is Mae and Ti'zo and Pam and Rukey.
Thats just my opinion though lol like you said there are many perfect endings
There are three priorities for me for a perfect run:
- original Nightwings together
- original new nightwings together up top
- fae with Jodi
Since that's 4 people liberated already, original Nightwings have to stay down. Bertrude doesn't mind staying down, especially if Volfred is there too. It's nice having Almer with Fae too. So we seem to agree on that.
Although, liberating Ti'zo so he can bang Lendel's mom would be fun
Ignarius blaming himself for not being able to release anyone anymore after the New Nightwings came to be is heartwrenching. It makes sense for him at least to be with Jodariel
I also kept forgetting that Hedwin considers you to be part of the New Nightwings.
I don't think he'd be a good influence on Fae, though.
You mean Almer?
Ignarius.
Since Jodariel is a mother figure to Fae, she's bound to be in contact with Iggy too.
I felt like Jodi's mother complexes to her was minor.
but i guess tha's another thing to consider
good thing most teams have leaders you really don't want to ever be free
or don't mind being downside
I feel like Oralech, Ignarius and Almer are the only ones you would consider in enemy ranks
is it healthier for Pam to be in a different world from Tam?
Pretty much. Deluge is a piece of crap, Lendel and Udmildhe are evil, Manley is the wors, Tamitha is not a peaceful person, Barker has too much fun in the Downside.
Tamitha's vengeance fails even if she won rites. keeps blaming her sister for that. so you don't want her up top
While them being on speaking terms is nice, it doesn't mean they actually get along, just that they tolerate each other. And Pam still ends up physically wounded from it.
yeah, her being in the same plains as Tam is an unhealthy relationship
also Pam being up top does give the Harp an actual good representative
Hedwin still becomes temporarily depressed when all the New Nightwings (including the Reader) are all in the Downside, right?
I was thinking the reverse if the Old Nightwings and the Crone go top to lead the rebellion
iirc he feels bad but at least "we're all together".
""They had failed to return to their homes, each in turn. Yet, they succeeded in staying together. Hedwyn came to realize they found a certain freedom, after all."
Wheres that one wall of text that describes the morally worst ending in pyre
Where the guy calculated which characters should stay together/separated to make them suffer
lol I'd love to read that
I might say one of those would be to liberate Pamitha and Tamitha
liberate the scumbag leaders of some triumvirates like Manley, Deluge, and the Accuser.
Let Oralech win and steal his liberation without your permission
also leaving your Anointed shocked.
Separating the New Nightwings
ah
befriending Sandra. Regaining her trust. And then declining her from joining you. Mmmmmm. True monster.
i did that in my evil run
what did it cost
I feel like that would effect me more than doing Undertale Genocide because at least the boss fights there were fun.
Letting douchebag triumvirates win feels unfun
the only triumvirate i was alright losing against was the fate
and maybe the dissidents
The withdrawn are up there too
if you get all betrayal kills 0% happiness ending, instead of giving proper lyrics to your tale the bard detunes his lute, strums it once, says "You f****d up." and then the rest of the credits are dead silent
the final image in this ending is the reader and Brighton high-fiving
JFJFJGMHMH i hate this bc an audio file of tariq saying a cuss and a picture of reader amd brighton high fiving would be amazing and i need both of them badly but at what cost!!!!!
youve created the ultimate prize!!!!
(sobs into my hands) forgive me my nightwing family i just wanted some cool audio and art
Doing such a run should've had a hidden story/ending/cutscene called "Brighton's Successor"
why do you think you're high-fiving him in this ending
It’s a conspiracy
I bought the game for a long time, have never played xD just want to support the devs XD
betrayal kills?
not literal betrayal kills, just regular betrayals
you know, build 'em up then smack 'em down to rock bottom
Today I forgot the name of Pyre's main language for a good five minutes and I feel like a disappointment
The word was Sahrian btw
lol it's ok
if it makes you feel better, I don't know it's name without looking it up, like most pyre things lol
is sahria the name of the place? is that confirmed anywhere?
The name of the places are the commonwealth and the downside
commonwealth was the name of the old government, i thought?
replaced by the sahrian union
I thought commonwealth was just the old name for the place under that government
and before the commonwealth it was called the empire
The Empire's full title was the Empire of Sahr
So the language spoken by the former peoples of the Empire is Sahrian
and i guess the place itself is called sahr
the new new government at the end is called the New Sahrian Union, also
This bug is pretty amazing https://www.twitch.tv/videos/366585448##
Sturdy Sapling with Unstable Sapling for some reason increases the size of the explosion with consecutive uses
i wonder if that's worth doing competitively
It’s honestly broken tbh, cause eventually it actually just explodes the whole map
You just gotta play him a bit aggressively to get those stacks
excuse me mr. sandalwood
sure does take a while for the explosions to get up to that point
that's still wild. i never knew about this bug. :O
If you play him as an aggressive area denial sap instead defensive it’s pretty easy to stack
Especially it rite gets drawn out
does the size stay that big after volf is banished? does it stay that big after a pyre is hit?
Dousing does not reset
Pretty sure banishing doesn’t either, we found it last night on accident while playing on Parsec
does it stay the same size in subsequent games? sometimes the really weird bugs do that
The size resets between rites
well I know what I'll be abusing on true nightwing
Even better
If all your team is banish
And Volfred has Guardian Sap he can still detonate it with Unstable......many times https://gyazo.com/dd0a5e4b7ed1d05d84771ad45c21cfe9
Also just did some more testing, the size doesn't get bigger per detonation
It gets bigger per summon
oh wow. summon speed is so much faster
seems like saps weren't really tested as thoroughly, lol
if you have both saps on same team, do their sap explosions get bigger seperately?
good question!
if not, the gameplan might just be to run 2 demons with pyre health buffs, 1 sap that wont stop mashing saplings, so by the time youve got board clearing saplings your pyre still has a bit of fire left
wait, what does this look like in a mirror match
oh wait nvm, this meta is hard countered by fliers
give a harp the feather and stay off the ground
Yeah or Tizo the claws
Or a Cur who's fast enough
Triple jump doggo is pain
Triple jump keeps them in the air over half the field basically
Alright, got a chance to look at that Sap bug
OK, so this is what's happening now, in Pyre\Content\Game\Weapons\UrsaWeapons.xml:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/517503102786469908/536322443527192606/unknown.png
That upgrade gets applied upon the Sap casting his Sapling. Since it's an ADD, it's cumulative over multiple casts. The normal radius is 525, so if we change that to this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/517503102786469908/536322367002116098/unknown.png
Then the problem goes away, and it functions as it should, with the same increased radius every time
hmm, it doesnt look like this is an intentional feature, then
Well, since the explosion size can grow until it covers the entire arena, yeah, I'd reckon it's unintentional!
weird question. anyone know how to completely reset my pyre save data with steam?
I've tried my usual methods of confounding the uncooperative cloud saves but nothing works
what do you want it to forget?
doesnt pyre have a saves option in the menus?
I'm very late to reply - I thought you weren't coming back and I went to try other avenues on my own - but no
its not
ty for tryin tho
You could probably just manually delete your save files if you wanted to
they should be in your documents folder. I've never tried it myself so I guess it could cause some issues but worst comes to worst you just have to reinstall the game
that's what I was trying to do
And Steam is restoring them?
I've deleted saves, profile and game information from 3 diff. locations on hard drive
and yeah steam restores them
I've tried the standard procedure of deleting while game is running and then closing game to send the empty folder to steam cloud as the 'current save state'
no good
I've tried desynching from the cloud and launching with no save info at all
but somehow the game retains the completed file menu screen and still shows 2 profiles in use (but no save information)
I'm currently reinstalling completely (?) fresh with cloud saves turned off to see if I can get the game to boot from a blank slate state
Have you uninstalled and reinstalled?
then I'm gonna launch game, reenable cloud sync with game open and close it to see if the new saves replace the old ones
Ah yeah
this is literally the last thing I'm trying
I've got nothing else after this. no ideas.
Yeah, I would...hope that uninstalling and reinstalling would get rid of old saves but maybe not
its the one thing that I've kinda disliked about SG games is how saves are handled
I got an itch to replay Transistor a few days ago, before I reinstalled Pyre to let someone else try it (why I'm going to all this trouble)
and found that steam cloud had saved my progress in an ongoing recursion run
if I reset progress, I return to level 1
Yeah, I think that's a Steam issue more than an SGG issue though...
there's no way for me to begin a Recursion run fresh tho
A lot of people have been complaining about how Hades doesn't have cloud saves because the Epic platform doesn't support them ^^;
the whole reason I wanted to play transistor was to mess with recursive functions some more, but I would literally have to play 2 runs from scratch to get to that point
I can see how it would be obnoxious though
or finish the current run that's 50% finished
ok yeah, the issue I'm facing is Steam based
but the inability to reset in transistor, specifically, while retaining User Level (unless I missed that feature somewhere) is an in-game one
w/e I'm like, half an hour away from being able to attempt this save reset method
if someone thinks of another option that I can try after this, if it fails, I'll be ears open
ty for your help
No problem, sorry this is so much trouble ;;
its hardly your fault that steam cloud's being nonsense
heck, even if it was your fault somehow, it isn't your responsibility solely to make it work properly
just wish that there were better ways to curate and control what goes into the cloud sync and how it operates
Well I mean just, my sympathies for all the suffering lol
Yeah, for sure. I wonder if Steam has any kind of feedback form...
aaaaha they do
but.
but this has been an issue for some 7 years already anyway
or longer
they literally could not care less
Apologies if you've already tried this, but maybe this will help? https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/102694/is-there-a-quick-way-to-delete-saves-off-of-the-steam-cloud
Yeah. Anyways I hope this works! Pyre's great and I'm sure your friend will enjoy it if you can get a clean save.
They tried something similar, yeah
I remember seeing a really old support ticket at one point regarding this issue where the support team basically told user that "the system is meant to be automated so that you don't lose data by mistake. the way to manually delete save data is to just not do that ever. give up, user."
the system works this way by design. no manual control, only exploitative workarounds
yeah that's actually the exact post which introduced me to these workarounds
but its a bit out of date and doesn't quite work the way the post says, anymore
it was still the first thing I tried tho
Ah, that's unfortunate
their explanation of how the cloud saves works is 100%, just the erasure procedure is a bit diff.
maybe its not working because I'm doing it wrong - its been a while since I had to reengineer it
Here's the thing. Do not even bother altering Steam Cloud.
I'd love to tamper it to undo achievements so I can redo them. But anything that tampers files outside my hardware are borders i'd rather not tamper.
don't launch the game via steam?
not sure how simple that is, since I primarily am a GOG customer
on macOS at least, making a copy of the game and executing it directly seemed to avoid syncing save-data. the one time i tried.
iirc sgg games aren't tied to steam drm, so you can launch them without steam
everyone named the stowaway gae right
i called her nae 🐴
i went with tae and then gae
i thought abt mae or zhae but like gae is objectively the funniest option
it is fantastic but i called her fae
rhae was my first gae was my second current run is bae!!!
fae... because she's a blessed changeling faerie child
i picked fae in my playthrough because i thought i was legitimately supposed to guess her real name
and fae seemed like the most likely
found out later that was NOT the case
i picked Lae first run idk why
I went with Xae
All y'all are weird, Shae is the real option
i did gae on my first playthru (that i didnt. finish, but i stopped playing for like over a year so itd be dumb to go back to it) and im doing gae again
I like how when you select gae for a rite the voice kind of sighs before saying it
Like he's annoyed that you went with the immature choice lol
bae tells you not to pick it
it cannot be this one, right....? i cant wait for ppl 20 years from now who dont know what bae meant to play this game
a rereleased version will have an annotation, like in the shakespeare books, giving a detailed history of the term "bae"
internally the game calls her Mae
but i couldn't pick Mae because conflict with Mae Borowski
:P
Shae, every time.
fae is my faevourite
fae suits her
xae squad
I chose zhae!
but i couldn't pick Mae because conflict with Mae Borowski
same
HECK YEAH DR. PERPLEXED
XAE SQUAD!
I went for fae as well
i had trouble picking between xae and chae
she was 100% one of my favourite characters though, she was so sweet
i left her in the downside to be with almer :( i felt so bad about it
i won all the liberation rites in my playthrough so she got to escape the downside while almer stayed in there
i think she went on to become a scholar or something?? it's been like a year since i finished
even better
i won them all too but i chose volfred over her
and i left sir gilman too and i let myself free
god i keep forgetting how unpleasant your icon is belgo
i wish i didnt click to see it bigger
"haha nyx you accidentally left me on read haha"
wavering on the edge of buying Pyre. Anyone have a favorite aspect to share to help nudge me? :P
it s by supergiant games
that is a very convincing point
jokes aside..! pyre s lore really pulls you in !! the characters are very varied and they all have something that makes them unique and they re all very lovable
tizo for example stole my heart in a split second
the gameplay may not be for everyone , it certainly wasn t for me when i started out but i really started to enjoy it after getting used to it and it blends really well with the story
also.. logan cunningham 🍊
yeah the only reason I didnt buy it when it came out is because the gameplay didnt seem my style but its good to hear that the lore is so entrancing. I do love some good worldbuilding
it was rather tough at first but unlike hades you can change the difficulty to the easiest and roll with that
the story really is worth it even if the gameplay isn t the type to float your boat 
the characters who join eventually + items you get also enrich the gameplay so there s that
hearing that story was worth it from somebody that wasnt particularly interested in the gameplay was actually very insightful. I think you sold me haha
because that would probably be me
im glad
i believe this ll be a very good decision
oh god how could i forget
darren korb s music..
oh of course
I have a playlist of Darren Korb's music that I listen to
and it has Pyre music in there even though I have never played the game haha
when you hear the music in the game it has a different kind of effect on you
i haven t played pyre in ages but.. i listen to the music often and i can t deny it feels more indulging when you hear it in-game
it s... a complete experience
that makes sense actually
READAH
I never get chills the same way when I listen to Zulf's song as when I hear it in context in Bastion
so I totally get that
mhm ! im pretty sure you ll love pyre one way or another
who knows , you might end up liking the gameplay like me , buuuut if not you have tons of lore to keep you on the edge of your seat
i hope u enjoy pyre ✨
I am going to buy it when I get home, looking forward to hearing Darren's music in context!
excellent
IM EXCITED FOR YOU 
pyre is so wonderful
HECK YEAH
30% for brighton ♥
at least 5% for Deep Ron Lore™
having a favorite Supergiant game is... difficult
^^^
but i love everything about all the games
i’m preparing for kh3 at the moment but after i finish kh3 when it comes out i WILL GET RIGHT ON IT!!!
wonderful
fear titan ron
secret ending where falcon ron sings bound together
@pliant sigil we need
"Everytime you pass the orb, cast, jump or throw the orb, you owe Falcon Ron 10 gold"
Ron discourse eh?
In harp society, males are rare and therefore royalty
The harp prince ran away, without anyone knowing where he went
Turns out he got captured, tossed into the downside
Prince "Falcon" Ron, unwilling to accept his title
Instead chose a simple merchant life
adopted by a slug-ogre, the only father figure he's ever had, and calls him "papi"
guys I really like this 'theory'(?) XD
Maybe papi's a crone male or something
I'm tempted to write "ballad of the falcon"
Explain that he was disfigured or something, a story about true inner beauty
I mean nobody knows what harp princes look like... not even most harps
maybe they just be like that
None of the harps in the game suspect him, so I can't imagine he's too normal
poor Ron XD
fair enough, he's making the best of things and that's admirable
Maybe he even cast himself down, in the dead of night
It would explain how he managed to get all those valuable wares
once he was the prince of harps
now he eats humble pie
His skill of talking endlessly about nothing comes from his royal upbringing
Too bad Pyre wasn't in AGDQ
Imagine how nuts the audience would've been with the orb
OOOOORB
Issue is, in a speedrun of Pyre, the most important part for your time would not be how fast you win the Rites but how fast you skip through the text.
youd have to meticulously memorize every dialogue selection to make sure the text is as short as possible
Or just remember a few key selections and always go through em
Bind the click to scroll wheel and just scroll instead of mashing
and even then the run would not be particularly fast
because of all the downtime, Blackwagon travel time, and text
@mild falcon unfortunately ron the harp prince is disproven
because ron is stated to be a member of a race indigenous to the downside
it's from the book of rites, if lumi's talking about what i think she is!
There are natives in this land, with some capacity for thought, and oddly keen instinct for the mercantile. Suspicious creatures, but not disagreeable, entirely.
explains why no one questions ron, but i dont think it destroys the theory
he isnt the same species as the person he's on the back of
i guess they both have eye stalks
@wide river yeah that was it thanks
I couldn't remember where it came from
which is why I didn't cite it in more detail
Alright, it's been a year, time to go for the optimal Pyre playthrough with the best ending.
On True Nightwing with all Titan Stars on.
you poor soul
(well, except on Liberation Rites, I'm not that crazy, I know I can't beat Udmildhe)
(u can't turn off true nightwing)
ohhhhhh
I've already done TN with all Stars on. Won more than half the Rites, and won 4 of the Liberation Rites. It's really fun. But since I want the best ending, I'll disable the stars for Liberation Rites (except for Dalbert and Oralech, since I want to lose those).
Note to self: when taking a screenshot, your cursor disappears and never comes back. Dammit.
your cursor was liberated! godspeed, cursor!!
To the Downside, both of you.
Well, still won that first Rite. With all Titan stars active. My strategy: Rukey flinging the orb. 10 damage at a time on average.
Well, that and the 30 damage freebie when the Accusers just stand around doing nothing for the flinging tutorial.
stay tuned for my cover of megalovania on the xylobones
also i mightve cried a lil when jodariel hugs the moontouched girl
;w; a good scene!!!
Tamitha was very skeptical that Pamitha could have played a beneficial role in the preceding events, and lashed out at her.
Pamitha made no attempt to elude the attack, and was struck full-on.
This cost Pamitha the use of her right wing. Yet, after she recovered, she shrugged the incident aside, and said maybe they would call it even, now.
From that point on, the blood-sisters kept a formal distance, but were cordial with each other```
Is it even possible to do True Nightwing and good enough to manipulate specific scenarios so you liberate people you want?
I know I was able to conquer all of FTL and Into the Breach's achievements all on Hard difficulty. But I think it'll require a lot of practice to become godlike in this game.
I guess doing a single perfect hardest difficulty run is something to aim for.
Liberating the people you want on True Nightwing is pretty easy if you're good. Ended up with more health than what I started with on the first Liberation Rite. Doing it on True Nightwing with 12 stars on, that's beyond my capabilities. Once I get my Gilman perked up and geared up, I can win nearly all Rites even with 12 stars on. Keyword being "nearly". Lendel and his demon pals, Udmildhe, freaking Tamitha, they're insane.
Also, if someone does a perfect hardest difficulty run (which means without any loss), please make it a video series. Would really want to see how you handle the first cycle, as it's really hard winning without any perks when facing enemies with incredible buffs. Barker with +8 Presence and +8 Quickness is insane. Add to that the fact that everybody comes back instantly if you banish everybody, that they don't take much time to come back even if you don't because of their high Hope, that they can plunge without losing a person, that they deal more damage to a Pyre that's already not that healthy to begin with and that they heal when they douse your Pyre? Hell, simply someone winning the first Dissidents Rite on True Nightwing with all Stars on I'd love to see.
The first Essence rite, too, is insane. No Jodariel, which means you lose your best defence, no Gilman, you lose your best attack. Obligatory Pamitha, with no perks at all, making her vastly inferior in stats to any of her opponents, with no tricks to succeed.
If I'm going to make a perfect hardest difficulty run, I might do it in regards to the perfect storyline/ending rather than no-losses.
But if I do become really engrossed with the core gameplay enough, I might go for such a thing.
I do need aid in character meta knowledge the moment I try to attempt it.
People who do tn all titan stars runs are so brave
I wanted the achievement but was not very good at the game so I meticulously staged my tn playthrough to just lose EVERY rite
I know Supergiant don't do sadistic achievements, unlike some of my other games. But I'm really surprised they didn't make an achievement wherein you need to do a full walkthrough (new game+ at least) where all debuffs are present in any of their games.
There's a 12 limiter run in transistor
fun fact: you can reset rites on True Nightwing, it's just more annoying bc you have to exit the game to do it
if you win every liberation rite, how many of your members are left again?
2 or 3 depending on if you free yourself
I'm planning out the perfect ending scenario for me
that means letting Volfred, Ti'zo and Oralech stay in the downside, all the New Nightwings (including me) be liberated
The Crone stay with Volfred
and that leaves Fae and the adopted guy from The Fates be together (possibly both liberated?)
that does mean allowing some losses especially against Oralech
I once weighted the choice of freeing all the original Nightwings along with Oralech. But that would mean letting Hedwin down and sad whether it be me separated from them or all new nightwings stuck in the downside.
I got a question.
If the Fates won a single liberation rite, do they still continue to play for another cycle? There's 2 major NPCs in their team.
No, if the Fate win their Liberation Rite, they sit out, just like the others

never to return but the lyrics are in alphabetical order
mess me up fam
anxiety editions of some pyre tracks, for your...... "enjoyment"?
surviving exile: http://soaringsparrows.tumblr.com/post/165900872400
in the flame: http://soaringsparrows.tumblr.com/post/165896597300
never to return: http://soaringsparrows.tumblr.com/post/165873404830
i already hate the in the flame one

PLEASE START
it s the worst.
that's the point !
o i didnt read the text.
that's where the anxiety comes in ;D "please start"
this gave me a headache 
the never to return one is actually fairly nice
my favourite is never to return because it tricks you into such a false sense of security
Flame just made a mashed potatos out of me
this channel is so funny rn
i can get used to hearing the intro on loop tbh
oh hey a bonus one i never uploaded to tumblr
oh now this is one i d never get bored of !
Ow no never to return is actually real good
manley would absolutely do this to hype up his entrance
would anyone like a slightly less Awful post because i went through my pyre folder and found a neat one
Can you hit me up with a "never to return" one to download?
nightwings: what is happening SHOW YOURSELF
manley, playing this from behind a tree or something: >:^3
uhhhhhhhh gimme a minute i don't think i kept that file
there is a way to download mp3s from tumblr but i always forget how
Glorious, thank you.
flutter fly anxiety version would be hysterical
here, have "what if you took never to return and made it Depressed"
Did the Pyre OST get longer after release?
10-second pause between never to return's intro and the first verse
The album now seems much longer than I remember it
Ah, that's it
aka the never to return variants and the acoustic tracks
They were concatenated, were they?
tariq sounds like i recorded him singing with my phone here
Oh, not those, no
tariq recorded this in the bathtub
EVEN BETTER
Stuff like The Blackwagon, I don't remember hearing that on the album before
his audio track just Sounds Like That
tariq found his moms 2003 camcorder and thought his shower stall had good acoustics so he played this there
well i mean
i know
he's leaving the underworld, hopefully never to return
also i thought darren korb voiced falcon ron based solely on how he did skelly but ig i was wrong 😔
i just have a few never to return tracks, that's all,
also stuff like [clapping intensifies]
yo what if anxiety versions of the song but the song never ends instead of never starting
i dont think thats physically possible
"everything's fine- ...oh no"
come to my concert of me playing never to return until i die of old age
Here's the thing about when "Never to Return" plays over and over and over and over and over again. The second time it plays, your immediate thought is not, "Hey someone's playing 'Never to Return' again." It's, "Hey, 'Never to Return' is a lot longer than I first thought, and it has like a dip in the middle."
FJSKFLSDJFKDSLJFKDSLJGKGJSDLFDJSFLDSJFSDLKGJFKGLJWEURISJDFKSD
me when the rest of black mandolin autoplays
No way New Unison was on this album last time I put it on
I'd've remembered
When were these electronic-y songs added?
they've... always been there?
they were definitely in the game
had some wacky mashup ideas for pyre songs a while back
sky dance mixed with bad apple
In the game I fully expect
rage of demons mashed with turret wife serenade for some reason
So here I am, just minding my business on overwatch
And I meet someone called Yslach!
Turns out he's a big fan of pyre
It was surprising finding another one in the wild
wow....so thats what yslach has been up to all these years
really makes you think
im pretty sure with enough spectacle, lore, and art design, sgg could've gotten away with the rites being car soccer
every unique character getting a really tricked out car
pyre but it's mad max
starring archjustice androbeles xiii as Immortan Joe
barker as Every Single War Boy
the reader as Max
and also featuring jodariel as furioasa
Rad Reader: Scribe Road
wow
Is Brighton's voice actor the same as Rucks and Red's lover?
Yep!
And I love it everytime he mentions, "TRiumviraTe"
The same dude's also doing Dalbert, Big Bertrude, and Ignarius
for some reason I am completely incapable of rolling my Rs
just make a sound like a cat purring, but without the P
...this feels like a very personalized attack
sadly I can't do that either
x3
I try doing that and I sound like a cat all right
...a cat trying to cough up a hairball
x.x
xxxhhEADER
doing the very action of the vibration of the purring is like one of those skills which people would think are easily done and outright ordinary. But there will be people who can't do it.
You gotta relax your tongue and breathe on it. Easier said than done tbh
nerdery time: a lot of americans, depending on region and dialect, pronounces a bunched r instead of a retroflex r
and trilling a bunched r is basically impossible
but otherwise they sound the same
if you can't roll your Rs it might just be because you produce R in a different way from, say, spanish speakers
to the Downside with this
This is forbidden knowledge
what sort of benevolent scribe would allow us to live in a world where I can only think of catgirl Androbeles now
he likes the rites cause he wants to pounce on tje ball
aj watching the rites
Weadew =^w^= how dawe you diswespect the wites >:3c
Or what if he had Ron’s voice
Did SGG ever make an announcement about Pyre for the Switch?
DwarvenHydra asked about 3 weeks ago: "I sent an email to them not too long ago asking about porting Pyre to Switch. They said they currently have no plans to do so, as they’re trying to focus on Hades, but it’s still up for consideration for when they finish."
So, I beat the Chastity on TN with all stars, and even managed to earn 45 sols by dousing the pyre within 5 seconds of saluting.
I'm now done with the second Liberation Rite. Liberated Rukey during the first one (used only 3 Stars, I'm not that crazy) and liberated Almer during the second one (used all stars since I intended to lose anyway, only managed to get them down to 50 HP)
Thanks @spiral osprey
jhklsfdjdhjkdjfhjkfd yes
Can someone post a jodariel on here so I can show a friend?
like someones fanart? theres probably lots in #fan-works !
I owe you my life
SHE
fun fact, my actual "pyre stuff" folder does not have any fullbody jodi sprites, they're all located in the joke dating sim content folder
so every time i have to go fetch a jodi i have to once again confront what i spent like 3 hours of my life doing
Lmaaao
What’s up with the little bubbles at the bottom of that Jodi sprite?
I think it's an abstraction of her armor?
She is actually a liquid
Oh huh, it kinda looks strange but we’re not meant to see the full sprite with mortal eyes so
i assume she's carrying bouldy and this is a spinoff
jodi would have already pushed the boulder so many times it was ground down to a grain of sand
if anyone can get bouldy over that hill it’s jodi
You know you're using too many Titan Stars when Barker has more presence than Jodariel 
Well, the Dissidents are still an easy bunch because they can't surpass Gilman's speed and their presence is not too bad. Demons with nearly 40 presence will make a barrage that you can't get through without heavy shenanigans.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
trying to not look in here too often so I dont find any big spoilers, but I have been lightly playing Pyre and you guys were right that even though I am not the biggest fan of the gameplay its still just so... it just pulls me in
I even enjoy dusting out the wagon and poking the drive imps
main frustration so far: not remembering the keybinds so I accidentally do X when I wanted to do Y
favorite part so far: how cool Jodariel is
I didnt know that was a thing?? Disclosure: I have only played like 4 rites so far
Doesn't Rukey ask you pretty early on what you think of his moustache?
Well, if you kept it, then you're a good person
I dont think he has asked me what I think of his mustache
but I will have to consider that
because you are right, that is a very serious question

I appreciate how Jodariel is not just a human with horns. There is a different feel to her than that.
and also how the mask covers her horns, which greatly amused me for some reason
@lime mural oh yeah, you were the one that helped me decide to buy Pyre. I havent had much chance to play it but I am definitely enjoying it so far.
hi !! OOHHH im so glad to hear that
you ll enjoy it even more as you progress
im sure :D
So, it's interesting that you say that about Jodariel. Do you yet know how Demons come to be in the Downside?
nope
shhh 
I know!
its not that heavy of a spoiler i think , but its still a lot more rewarding to find out on your own as you play
i hope the rites didn t prove to be too much of a challenge for ya
yeah I am already pretty attached to the world building and I am barely into it
the rites so far have been so basic that even with my fumbling I kind of squash them. Once I stop messing up my fumbling around I will probably up the difficulty from normal
mhm at some point you get used to the gameplay and you can adapt to playing with 2-3 characters at a time
is there a way to more predictably switch characters or at least know who you are switching to? Because thats definitely one area that I dont get. The switches feel very unintuitive to me so far
all I know of is the spacebar to.... semi-randomly? switch
Sort of
So, the way it's done is that you hold down the spacebar, move the mouse toward the character you want to switch to, then release the spacebar
it doesnt feel like its consistent but I might have just not noticed the pattern
OH
You'll see a line from your active character to the character you're going to switch to
I always just tapped, so I never saw the line
wonderful, that will definitely make it much more consistent, thank you haha
Any time
that would be why it felt random before :P
Switching between exiles is the hardest thing to do, so don't worry too much about it
Hell, I've played 7 (I think?) campaigns, and I still miss my switching every now and then
fair enough
alright I am going to make my retreat to avoid all the people talking about the game indepth and potentially spoiling things I want to discover myself :P
Thanks for the suggestion to buy the game and the tip about character switches haha
I want them to add some sort of "quickcast" for swapping
like an option that lets you start the swap the first frame you hit it
you can reconfigure your keyboard to make 1 and 3 your specific partners! That's what I did and it helped a lot to avoid long swaps
nope, just a tap!
Awesome thanks
current solution is just using a macro that holds space for the minimum amount of time
1-3 seems like a better choice
oof yeah aha
can confirm that 1-3 are not quickcast
Im p sure
idk
still feels like the ai has a faster swap speed
1-3 are definitely just hit the button and it switches
I remapped my keys to be the fps basic setting so I could play more to what I prefer, perhaps they're already assigned to other buttons in your settings?
I'm assuming you're playing on PC that is
Spacebar it does whoever is closest relative to the mouse
tbh I highly recommend playing on controller if possible
I might be biased because I played it on PS4 before getting it on PC, but the controller is much more intuitive
I tried it and then ended up hooking my Dualshock up to my PC
Though if the keyboard config you’re using feels good then I’ll need to try that out 👀
I can confirm keyboard is great.
controller is far more natural to me, for this game.
which direction does lady seagrass wing her eyeliner
More importantly, when jodariel goes to sleep does she tuck her horns over or under the sheets
double wing and special neck pillow for horns
https://i.imgur.com/8seqgRX.jpg
Sir. Gilman got all the potions for the final rite on True Nightwing, with all stars on for this one. Still lost (although that was the plan, which is why I used 12 stars for that Liberation Rite). I'm way too rusty, I was able to win when I did it last year.
But I don’t know what choice I want
I mean I only lost one liberation rite so I guess one more wont do much harm
Your first playthrough is really important. You'll have time to explore other options in other playthroughs later.
In that case, I recommend using as many Titan Stars as you can, for the achievements. Just don't forget to let him win if you actually start winning.
What does that mean
😃
isn't he nice
JXBBKCAKB KN
What did you think was going to happen?
You reckoned Dalbert was gonna leave his son behind!?
😭 dalbert
me, watching the super bowl: wow i wonder who is getting sent to freedom at the end of this liberation rite
superbowl party is out supergiant party is in
glory to the scribes
everyone wear ur raiments were karaokeing sgg songs and playing vs mode
it's not a true superbowl unless you light up two giant pyres at each end of the stadium and people throw themselves in it with the ball
LIVE RITES
the winning team’s quarterback is sent up at the end of the supergiant bowl
eleanor tgp voice this is the downside!!!!
omg
worldwide superbowl where the teams have to follow the stars to find out where they have to compete
"ah, the stars align at last!!!" (ends up in a denny's parking lot)
the pyrehearts always meet at the local public pool
imagine deluge with a life preserver
would that even work if he doesn’t have arms
hfngjgjg he is a pool noodle
hehehehe
the ball is a bucket full of water and the players throw it at the opposite team's pyre to put it out
intimidating voice in the sky: oh, blessed be!!!!! (splashes water at a campfire)
if logan was in the superbowl id watch it
never to return but it has the audio quality of a stadium singing performance
HERALDS 4 HALFTIME
special guest: aj
ajsong, FINALLY,
the second guest is just.........the real actual darren korb
throw orpheus in there too while we’re at it
darren has a trio with himself and also himself
darren and the darrens
feat. aj
(Imagines being literate) (is exiled)
aj personally scrolled thru my amazon kindle library and yeeted me into the downside
aj at your trial: youre not even reading anything good.
YOU’VE BEEN READING THE TWILIGHT SERIES HAVEN’T YOU
me at aj: ok but for you to say that you would have to read it
aj: maybe so
aj read the entire twilight saga once and decided books were cancelled from now on
sandra was passionately into that one ship between the main vampire and the other werewolf guy and went on to kill soliam stephanie murr when the ship sunk out of anger
what am i even typing it's 3:20 am
Man, someone with video skills should redub the Superb Owl with aj commentary
Well, I mean, maybe that already exists?
It's something that I feel like could already exist
that would be the first soup bowl I would watch
redub the PUPPY BOWL with aj
question for the ages
The Eight Scribes are ever merciful...
bonus: kamila just tweeted this at me
https://twitter.com/gehns233rd/status/1092263547374104577?s=21
HoW uTtErLY BraZeN!
The rites sort of remind me of the Mayan game I read about once.
It was a ball game where the winning captain "ascended" to the realm of the gods for being worthy/the best.
pyre is actually very realistic
if you jump into fire enough, you ascend for being the best
oh also my jodariel shirt got here yesterday its v good i love it
yay!
hi i was wondering what instrument are played in forbidden knowledge
I bet if you tweeted at Darren Korb he could tell you 👍
oh, you know
We will get pyre for switch when the stars align
The rites shall come to 🐻
☀ the sin()s
top secret pyre dlc that's just a bear in raiments
Is it wrong that I spent the whole game waiting for either someone with a aura sword or lucario
а
i was expecting a catgirl at some point, so i cant judge you too much
somehow the sgg team has managed to completely avoid the most obvious fantasy race
are catgirls considered the most obvious fantasy race now?
isopod girls
i thought elves were the most obvious fantasy race

