Not as explosive, that's for sure
#pyre
mild falcon
next girder
Me, thinking my first Pyre thought in months: Archjustice is thicc under that robe
ripe stag
i just imagined him taking off the mask and revealing handsome squidward
next girder
oof
eager hatch
handsome squidward
also that imp team sounds fantastic
I love this place
I love all of you
this is great
vestal bluff
Yo Gwyn I'll take on that Imp team any time
There's a way to play Versus against people online that some of us have used before
Man, we should start a Rite club
vestal bluff
I wonder how much interest there is?
There's a couple thousand on this server right?
I'd reckon 3 or more people, or fewer, would be down
frank token
I’m down
eager hatch
I've played reliably against @vestal bluff before
I may not be quite as enlightened as they, but I still had a great time
x3
vestal bluff
Y'all are cool
I've got an idea or two about how to set up something like this. I'll post what I come up with in #self-promotion this evening
(Evening in eastern North America time)
sacred mortar
Est is bEST lol
eager hatch
Yes
vestal bluff
Hey Lumi, do you remember how long the matches we played took?
vestal bluff
hmm
I just don't want this to take up a lot of time for people
If it's too time consuming, folks might not be able to play as many matches as they would like
eager hatch
True
sacred mortar
Matches are usually pretty short against AI but will probably be much longer against people
Unless people just exploit busted tactics that end matches instantly
Because as much as I love Pyre the multiplayer isn’t the most balanced
vestal bluff
Some characters are definitely better than others, but it's not like there's restrictions on who you can play as
Even if something's busted, it's the same for both sides, is what I meant
I guess the person who drafts second has a bit of an advantage tho
mild falcon
If something is too meta defining we'll make a banlist I guess
sacred mortar
We won’t have to worry about meta unless enough people join
We’re not building a competitive scene we’re just getting together to play Pyre
mild falcon
What busted strategies would even exist besides imp mayhem
sacred mortar
Abusing revive tactics with Oralech, anything involving Ae
eager hatch
Sandra+Oralech isn't that powerful
vestal bluff
We'll find out
eager hatch
It's strong but it's not busted
vestal bluff
There's weird stuff that can happen with Sacred Bond though
sacred mortar
Sandra + Oralech + Dalbert is pretty great
mild falcon
Oralech Gilman is interesting combo
sacred mortar
I can see Oralech becoming the core of lots of teams
Since his stats are so good and he’s so easy to res
vestal bluff
Oralech + stuff that revives him will always be a contender I think
An Imp with Last Laugh + Webbed Lanthorn, for example
Or Sir Deluge with Vengeful Vow
mild falcon
Oh yeah there's items that revive, isn't there
vestal bluff
Webbed Lanthorn is 'revive on kill'
Vengeful Vow & Last Laugh are 'explode on death if you don't have the Orb', so they work with W.L or Avenging Aid
sacred mortar
Imps shouldn’t really have the orb anyway tbh
They exist for team wipes and portals
vestal bluff
Either way, there's enough leeway in the 'stuff that revives' that even if Oralech is the best, there's still variety
Definitely disagree there, an Imp with all the left-side skills + Wings of Ha'Ub is a legit scorer
sacred mortar
Fair enough, but I find the portal + explosion build to be more effective as it allows you to roll up on the Pyre with whatever high damage slow character you want
Really any build can work in Pyre
vestal bluff
That's what I want to hear
mild falcon
Imp scorer carried me through campaign, but probably less effective against players
vestal bluff
And you know there's going to be someone with the ol' Woofer³
eager hatch
*looks at your user icon*
gee who could it be
I think the only thing I was disappointed with in the multiplayer is that the sprites/models and stuff retain their original triumvirate colors
It would have been cool to see those change
vestal bluff
I think it's useful to have as is
Team members of the same race could have different skills, so you want to know who can do what at a glance
eager hatch
Ah, yeah, true, it would be kinda difficult to tell them apart
vestal bluff
That's the dream
next girder
Cursed question: Who in the Blackwagon vapes
slate dune
Can people spectate parsec games?
vestal bluff
You could host people who have no controls enabled
Parsec supports up to 4 people at a time, but the internet upload requirements are pretty steep
slate dune
We should totally stream the liberation games for your Rite Club
I'm super interested but I live in Australia, so participating is not really an option
mild falcon
I wonder if streaming on host or on client end would be better
vestal bluff
Client's end would be better
Host's upload will already be at max usage streaming to the client
Client would be using both their download and upload at the same time, which might have some lag-causing effects
swift mango
Hello 😃 Haven't been here in ages, feels good to be back! Hello again fellow Pyre fans!!!
snow kindle
I need some help from Pyre fans
You remember the fight with Plurnes? I mean the one that the end of Vagrant Song is about and the one described in Book of Rites
There is this fragment
"The titan met her end on its' (doomed ship's) prow
Forsaken by the tides"
I can't check it right now so I must ask here
Did Ores navigated the ship that way that its' prow ended in the Plurnes' body
Or did tides betray her and they lifted the ship that way that it killed Plurnes?
I remember reading about it in Book of Rites
But I'm not sure if I remember it well
ripe stag
- The Hulk of Ores
· The Dazraban was first of many river-ships to vanish in the Downside. Although presumptions of its loss were not inaccurate, the Doomed Ship and her valiant crew had charted half the Sea of Solis, ere the end of their brave voyage.
· The sea-titan Unfathomed Plurnes was not fond of vessels sullying her sea, and split the Doomed Ship with a single swipe.
· The ship's own shattered prow would later end the sea-titan's cruel reign, as the boastful Underking loves to recount.
· The stars themselves must have been moved by this. That point within the sea, now sacred, has the stars dancing in homage every now and again.
From the book
It kind of implies that plurnes was impaled on the prow
Pretty hardcore
ripe stag
No worries
vestal bluff
Why not in the Underking's own words!?
- Unfathomed Plurnes
• In all of this one's conquests, never has the Underking confronted such a foe as the sea-titan, Plurnes. That grand and hideous wench presented nigh-inestimable peril for whomever sailed or swam the Downside's sea. Tales of her monstrosity long spread across the world!
• The Underking was undeterred! Nay. this one made it his life's mission to give her recompense. Emboldened, having felled her cousin, Endriga, he drew her out of hiding, and then sailed the remains of Dazraban, the doomed ship, with its sharpened prow, straight through her heart! Huzzah!
• The catastrophic detonation which ensued left no surviving witnesses, save one. The Underking survives to speak of it, and write of it, which he shall do, repeatedly.
Dude talks about himself in the third person btw
eager hatch
Holy frick
swift mango
I love the image of that Titan being impaled on the ship. It reminds me of when Ursula gets impaled in The Little Mermaid (lol), except waaay more epic. I love how it's not really /impaling/ Unfathomed Plurnes, but bursting out of her with her anguished hands contorting around it. It's awesome. Now THAT would be a haunting sight to see while out sailing, or caught in a storm!
mild falcon
I like how underking's story gets a lot of lore simply because he wouldn't stop talking about it
Or maybe because he tells it more interestingly than other scribes
Stories are passed down through generations only if they're repeated
Parent: alright which story do you want to hear tonight before you go to bed
Child: undakim story!
Parent: again?...
next girder
Hey uh did you know that
Brighton did nothing wrong ever
For real though I have to wonder if the Commonwealth parliament is just full of assassinations and stuff behind the scenes bc all you have to do is steal their robes and mask
A Cur on Stilts: Yes Henwo I am Archjustice
ripe stag
any idea where i could get a list of all the souvenir items that spawn in the blackwagon?
like the xylophone, bottled storm, floating rock etc
heavy hill
verbal geyser
@Hino can you imagine?? The government is full of ex-cons and scoundrels who made it out of the Downside - I'm sure there's plenty of people unscrupulous enough to assassinate rivals and fill the positions how they like
the Commonwealth is a mess
mild falcon
I always assumed they gave the freed exiles jobs that weren't important
Archjustice isn't that cool in a kangaroo court
onyx forum
tbh i suspect brighton got promoted right to aj bc people realized things were crumbling in the cw and a newbie without established connections is good for like "either he'll save us or he'll be GREAT as a scapegoat in the history books"
onyx forum
justi.....
mild falcon
They just make fun of criminals
onyx forum
they have authirity to uhhh yell
and i guess theyre the final say on who gets kicked downriver?
in my head aj is the leader of a larger panel of justi yeah mvnvnv
wide river
considering it was an earlier archjustice who outlawed literacy, i'd wager they're the Boss
onyx forum
☝ ☝
verbal geyser
Given what we're told I figured that the Archjustice was the defacto head of state, or at least someone close
Since the Commonwealth was founded on people who escaped from the Downside I imagine Ascendees make up most of the government - it's just that the assumption of the Scribes was that it would only be the worthy who escaped. In reality, the kind of people who make it into the Triumvirates are.... a lot of them scoundrels
mild falcon
Is volfred really the first person to like think "maybe system... bad???"
cloud quartz
no, but he's probably one of the first to actually do something about it
verbal geyser
He has a healthy resistance going, so I'd suspect he was simply the most organised/successful. Also, mass illiteracy and ignorance of the system probably doesn't help
mild falcon
Actually maybe the system is stable. People who get out are the ones with the most faith in the system. The system rewards order over goodness of heart or whatever
sacred mortar
Wasn’t it an archjustice that banned literacy?
mild falcon
It's like a stockholm syndrome with the rites
You stay down until you learn to love it
verbal geyser
Those who make it out of the Downside have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo - they have to hide their old identity so people don't know they're an ex-con. Those already in power give them a cushy job and some authority in exchange for their silence on how it all works so no one finds out they're all a bunch of redeemed criminals. It self-perpetuates from there...
vestal bluff
As the Scribes intended
eager hatch
The Scribes tried to set up a government of wise and enlightened people
Too bad it didn't work that way
vestal bluff
Yeah, they just also intended to have the ascended be virtuous etc.
mild falcon
Pyre is about how meritocracy is impossible
vestal bluff
Pyre is about how you can't measure merit with an Orb
eager hatch
I can already hear Celeste yelling at me for blaspheming
mild falcon
If orb can't do it, who can
verbal geyser
Yeah - the ascended are supposed to be virtuous, and a bunch probably are, but then you have... Lendel. And Manley. etc...
vestal bluff
I mean, to be a bit generous, those guys are both describable as "passionate, driven leaders"
verbal geyser
I mean honestly Manley's the perfect politician
vestal bluff
Yeah, just their drives are a bit... unscrupulous
verbal geyser
Just a little bit
eager hatch
Lendel was way too prideful
verbal geyser
I mean, I do wonder, if there was an ending where the revolution failed or didn't even happen, what the various characters would end up as. Manley and Lendel would fit into the Commonwealth structure of government and enforcement just fine
eager hatch
Why was Manley exiled I can't remember
eager hatch
Ah okay
verbal geyser
All the bribes and corruption
eager hatch
Pyre is such an amazing game
Oh my god imagine like a scenario editor or something
Where you could make your own stories within the Rites
vestal bluff
Such a thing is definitely possible
mild falcon
You'd think that manley would be able to get away with being caught bribing by bribing some more
vestal bluff
The text and events and whatnot are stored as .xml and .lua files primarily. You can edit them with Notepad
Someone made a mod where the Reader throws a Downberry at Oralech when he sneaks into the Blackwagon the first time
Credit to @spiral osprey on this one
mild falcon
Manley keeps throwing money at Brighton even as he's being pushed down river
vestal bluff
Hang on
The background is supposed to be the Blackwagon, but the liberation rite is the only place you can test this sort of stuff, for some reason
verbal geyser
That is hilarious
The hilarious thing about Manley is that he's astonishingly corrupt, but also ridiculously bad at it.
eager hatch
"As the Downside saying goes, 'A downberry a day keeps the demon doctors away.'"
I am dead
Help me icant breathrer
mild falcon
Is shipping manfred still forbidden?
vestal bluff
Shipping Manfred? To the Downside with you
eager hatch
For a second I was confused
Because I didn't read that as two character names I read that as one
I was like "Who the heck is Manfred"
verbal geyser
Manfred sounds like some delicious crack... I don't know that there's any way I could take it seriously though
mild falcon
I need to make a chart with all the ship name combinations
eager hatch
Manfred von Karma
From Ace Attorney
A very corrupt individual
Tell me you can't see him as a demon
And as the head of the Tempers no less
mild falcon
Need more well dressed demons
eager hatch
Do we ever see Oralech outside of his raiments I don't remember
eager hatch
I love Jodariel's outfit outside of the raiments
vestal bluff
I'm trying to remember, does she have a cape like Hedwyn's?
They've both got that cloak pin, so she'd have to
sacred mortar
Different color but she does I think
I legit love Hedwyn’s design
One of my favorite designs in all of games
wide river
she has a cape, and the same pin, but she wears it differently to the way he does
vestal bluff
Folk should wear capes more often
It's winter where I am, so no time like the present I guess
verbal geyser
blanket, cloak pin, insta-cape
mild falcon
Which character more likely to be tailor?
Someone's gotta fix those clothes when they get torn by howlers
There's probably a canon tailor I missed
Bertrude is pretty likely imo
eager hatch
I'd say Volfred
He needs something to do with those spindly fingers
Or actually it's most likely Jodariel
She made that rug after all
@mild falcon
mild falcon
I knew the canon would get me
Actually there's gotta be a lot of tailors unless the raiments stay magically together through the battle
eager hatch
It wouldn't surprise me
I think I remember something written about the raiments in the Book
But I don't remember exactly
spiral osprey
one might assume that capes were a part of the military uniform for the bloodborder
it'd make sense, i imagine that close to the mountains or whatever the weather starts to get a little rough, and capes serve the double purpose of helping you tell others' ranks at a glance
thick carbon
I'm so week for the found family trope and this game is that
eager hatch
Yeah
vestal bluff
A big ol' family taking an RV trip thru the countryside
eager hatch
I wonder what it would be like to be a demon
vestal bluff
I too would like to be taller than I am now
eager hatch
I wouldn't mind being shorter, it's a little hard to be cute when you're taller than most x3
I'm 6'1"/185.5cm
vestal bluff
Plenty of people love Jodi, how tall you reckon she is?
vestal bluff
Also, do we count the horn-height the same as hair-height or actual height?
eager hatch
I'd say hair-height
vestal bluff
Ven's going to drop some serious knowledge on us
heavy hill
I expect a full essay given this amount of time @spiral osprey
sacred mortar
I wanna be 8 or 9 feet tall with cool horns
vestal bluff
Ven got exiled for the forbidden knowledge
sacred mortar
I’d believe it
spiral osprey
IM SO SORRY I HAVE A JOB
I WAS GOOGLING IT AND THEN I HAD TO GO, YOU KNOW
TEACH
AT MY PLACE OF WORK.
vestal bluff
Nice
sacred mortar
Rip
spiral osprey
anyways
here's wonderwall
*ae: 4'10"
Volfred: 8'9"
Gilman: 1'10" (upright)
Pamitha: 6'6"
Rukey: 2'8" (on all fours)
Bertrude: 3'8"
Jodi: 8'7"```ever been in a forest
vestal bluff
No
onyx forum
bertrude is so tiny....
spiral osprey
like, it's the epilogue art and in general sprites and such aren't consistent so this is just based on the hard science of "drawing straight lines across the picture and measuring pixels then making ratios out of them"
spiral osprey
the real question, as always, is how jodi and volf fit in the blackwagon at all, not to mention at the same time
@heavy hill i don't have an essay on pyre but you bet i've got a lot more about other stuff if you're just dying to read something
heavy hill
I read anything
spiral osprey
sacred mortar
Well Volfred owns the blackwagon right? He probably modified it to have high enough ceilings for him
Since it belonged to the Nightwings when they found him but they all died or ascended
spiral osprey
technically lu sclorian invented the blackwagons so maybe they've always been big enough for saps and demons 😂
they sure don't look it tho
cute blackwagon art ends up making it look pretty small
onyx forum
i want to believe he has to scrunch but yeah it is pretty volfredcore to see a wagon too small for him and go "oh i know a guy who does wagon celings"
spiral osprey
a lady, kam, and it's bertrude gkjdgfd
onyx forum
OH....... YOURE CORRECT
spiral osprey
bertrude glares at the blackwagon ceiling and it gets taller just to get further away from her
onyx forum
volfred shows up awkwardly scrunched into the wagon like "bertrude. please" and its her first time seeing him in years hgfjfjhhjfhj
YES
onyx forum
oralech moves to pay and shes like thou hast paid us............in laughter, he looks very funny scrunched up like that
spiral osprey
lu sclorian, scrunched up in the blackwagon but so lost in thought he doesn't notice any physical discomfort,
alternatively lu is an ascetic and he's just like this is fine : )
KJGHDFGKF
please keep him like that. it's good.
barren topaz
what if it's bigger on the inside
onyx forum
lu folded over in the blackwagon: 😬
the other scribes: wow look at him so pure of heart or whatever
lu (thinking): i messed up the measurements. no one can ever know
barren topaz
so Volfred can stand and move around fine but getting through the door? Gotta limbo that
ripe stag
I don't get it
eager hatch
amazing
sacred mortar
Volfred’s like 9 feet tall
eager hatch
I want to hug Volfred
sacred mortar
Autocorrect strikes again
spiral osprey
there was a great piece of art for inktober...........this year? last....last year? time is meaningless
where volfred was helping the reader with something and the reader was just. sitting in a tree. so that they could be at the same height as volf.
solar ravine
i definitely got the impression the wagon was bigger on the inside
thick carbon
I’m actually a little scared of a two foot tall Gilman I thought he was tiny
spark moon
sacred mortar
Yeah I think 2 feet is the right size for Gilman
Too small is a little bothersome (I don’t need a Mike Wazowski snake the size of my foot thanks) and too large would be terrifying
thick carbon
But I think a ton of his body mass is still on the ground so even at two feet tall he’s like... 5+ feet long
ripe stag
i mean he is a snake
thick carbon
Yeah but with one big eye
lapis hemlock
"downside ballad" is my new jam
iron crystal
so fun fact making a cpu vs cpu match and setting the level to 5 on both causes utter chaos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eig2VUQzrlQ&t=1s
30 minutes of constant aura spam
vestal bluff
Nice
What talismans/masteries are these?
Also, is the video kinda choppy for anyone else?
mild falcon
best part is the dogs casting at each other and getting knocked back just enough so that no impact is made
iron crystal
Yeah it's kinda choppy i think it was freaking my computer out
And i can't remember on the masteries and talismans lol
radiant spoke
So lately I've been binging on tiny house videos, and it just struck me that hey, the blackwagon is a tiny house. Sort of.
How cool would it be to have a tiny house with a few nods to the blackwagon, ay?
thick carbon
Get a little cottage in the downside and start raising imps and churning your own butter it’s the dream
gloomy steeple
So when Volfred is telling you about Oralech. he tells you that when Orelech doctored him, Oralech couldn't have known he was a reader. But Volfred clearly has that reader star carved into his forehead
spiral osprey
The brand is implied to be given for a number of particularly heinous crimes, not just reading
Erisa was implied to be branded
gloomy steeple
But when Hedwyn, Jodi, and Rukey first find you, they say something about how your rags have the markings of a reader, or something like that
And the reader has that star on his/her/their robes
heavy hill
volfred's star is pretty hard to notice compared to the rags though
gloomy steeple
that's true
mild falcon
the blackwagon is a wider rv
tough hinge
Just finished Pyre for the first time tonight! So good weeeeeps 😢👌
eager hatch
Yeah
tough hinge
Ohhhhh my gosh the last shot is the reader’s library? I’m cryin in the club
sacred mortar
The credits art is great with the exception of the one shot of Bertrude without her cloak thing which is c u r s e d
vestal bluff
Now you gotta do True Nightwing mode 
tough hinge
I’m excited aahhhh I have no idea what it’s about yet so this should be fun
Ooooo NG+ I’m here for it
Alright time to Git Gud
sacred mortar
True Nightwing is crazy hard first few matches if you got set in the “one character runs in and scores then other character runs in and scores” playstyle that normal mode kinda gets destroyed by
Then you get used to it and it’s not as bad until they start ramping up the number of required titan stars
ripe stag
How do harps put their clothes on?
They don't have arms and the end credits show they have human feet
Actually how do they do anything really
eager hatch
Good question
vestal bluff
Their wingtip feathers are really flexible I guess
sacred mortar
Now I’m imagining Pamitha using the feathers on the tips of her wings like fingers
I like
spiral osprey
"air currents"
radiant spoke
I don't know that I could ever git gud enough at Pyre to play TN mode.
I barely scraped by as it was.
Like I adored everything about the game, but that kind of gameplay is not what I would go for 99% of the time, SGG being the 1% exception.
gloomy owl
Is anyone experiencing severe framerate issues when you face Oralech for the first time? I'm playing on True Nightwing difficulty.
Sun-gries, Yslach, Harn, Dolnis and Xilvias are my active titan stars.
This is borderline unplayable. The game is otherwise completely fine, until this.
I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Oralech encounter itself.
gloomy owl
I have, several times.
I just restarted my PC, gonna try that.
I do notice that the game behaves weirdly when I activate Yslach. Maybe it has something to do with that.
eager hatch
Hmm
gloomy owl
I tried checking task manager. Pyre is using up waaaay more memory than usual too.
eager hatch
Strange
gloomy owl
For real.
Not that I particularly mind. You only face the TN twice, so I can deal with losing both times.
sacred mortar
Yslach is the one that makes the enemy smarter right?
gloomy owl
Yeah, that's the one.
sacred mortar
I can see why that’d lag the game out
gloomy owl
Oooh. Interesting, the AI acts the same with with Yslach on or off. There's no difference.
Supergiant, you naughty people, you. They must have made it so that the TN have it as their default AI.
sacred mortar
Well TN has the same difficulty level as heightened just that you have to use titan stars and exp gains are adjusted and stuff
So it’s probably a glitch
vestal bluff
There definitely should be a difference between Yslach on or off
You've got a bug on your hands
heavy hill
yeah you'd definitely know if you were on Yslach, because they'd be moving around at the speed of sound
sacred mortar
Yslach is very not fun
Especially combined with other titan stars
I mean it is fun just crazy hard
pulls entire enemy team to one bit of the map and banish them all
move in
they all respawn at once and instantly banish me because their reaction times are stupid good
vestal bluff
Yslach I didn't find to be so bad, actually. Shax is the scariest Titan
Either Shax or whoever gives +8 Presence to everyone
sacred mortar
Yeah those are scary too
heavy hill
I've been trying to do a TN run with all titan stars enabled and liberating everyone
The greatest mistake so far has been allowing the Withdrawn to get to the liberation rite
sacred mortar
The Pyrehearts were the only team to ever give me trouble
Because they’re just so fast
Lol when I started TN I actually lost to The Fate
gloomy owl
So far, I've only lost twice. Once to the dissidents at the very start, since no one had levels, and once to the True Nightwings because of what is apparently a glitch. (and probably explains the memory overflow)
vestal bluff
I've lost to the Accusers in a Liberation Rite in True Nightwing, all Titan Stars on
I've never lost to the Pyrehearts, with any settings
gloomy owl
The funny thing about TN mode is that it gets easier after the first rite, even with the additional stars on.
Mostly because the first five or so are negligible.
Mind you, I'm getting to my sixth, and it's starting to get felt. It's that weird balance between the benefit of levels and the harm of stars.
vestal bluff
Yeah, any of the ones to do with scoring or Pyre health are always on, except the one which gives you -30 right at the start
Yslach should always be on
The one which gives +8 Hope is not that scary
gloomy owl
I like shadow builds that keep them down for a long time, paired with Ti'Zo's nuclear bomb build.
I forget the name of that item. SOmething shadow.
The one that keeps them banished.
vestal bluff
Sunken Shadow?
gloomy owl
Yeah, that one.
vestal bluff
Never used it
gloomy owl
That plus Hedwyn's ability to keep them down for awhile is actually pretty effective for TN, if you can get a good implode off.
It just keeps them perma-banished. Four extra seconds is a lot.
vestal bluff
I usually give Hedwyn the left-side skills
The stamina one isn't great, but Critical Strike and Shoulder Smash are excellent
Even though it locks me out of the insanity of Sacred Bond
gloomy owl
I should try it sometime. I've never really touched them.
His support skills always seemed so strong to me.
vestal bluff
Shoulder Smash is a life-saver against the Withdrawn and Essence who almost always score from the air
And Critical Strike is really good in general, but insane with Gol's Bracer
gloomy owl
Oh man. I can imagine. I've always preferred banish-centric builds, speedier things like that could be fun.
vestal bluff
I've never preferred banish-centric builds because of Shax
I know I can not use it, but that +10% enlightenment tho
gloomy owl
Yeah. I never touch that one, for obvious reasons. Same with the Hope.
Yeah, that is true.
vestal bluff
All my Exiles for True Nightwing mode are geared around scoring with the minimum amount of banishing required, so as not to activate Shax
Like, I give Rukey Lightning Run as soon as I can, Bertrude I always try to get Serpent Swiftness, Shae gets Quick Fling, etc
gloomy steeple
What's funny is the only time I've beaten every lib rite was on TN
vestal bluff
Same here!
gloomy owl
Hilariously enough, same here. The mode really makes you push your limits.
It makes everything else seem so slow.
Shame that many characters are nigh-unusable. Namely Jodariel, Gilman really suffers, and you just can't bother investing in Volfred.
vestal bluff
Are you throw-scoring with Gilman, or diving?
gloomy owl
Diving.
vestal bluff
Gilman gets good with Greater Cleave
Nah, never dive with Gilman
His throw is really short-range, but it charges near-instantly
vestal bluff
The play is to jump, land right beside their pyre, and throw it in
If you haven't seen it before, it's a really fast charge-up throw
But also really short ranged
gloomy owl
I get a lot of insta-points by using the relic that refreshes stamina on pickup.
I'll definitely try that though.
But yeah. I hate to say it, but I have trouble seeing Volfred or Jodi ever being good in TN.
Like, Gilman has potential, but those two are just so slow.
eager hatch
Volfred is good for defense
gloomy steeple
Failer always uses gilman to destroy me over parsec
vestal bluff
There's some weird stuff you can do with the Sapling
And Jodi with double-rush and Relentless Vigour isn't awful
But yeah, those two are for sure the weakest in TN
gloomy owl
I sometimes make plays with the all-shield, but that's really reaching for him.
gloomy steeple
Fae starts out not so great, but she's probably my favorite once you get quick fling
gloomy owl
It's so hard to justify slow characters. Even Hedwyn starts to only be worth his support skills for me after awhile.
vestal bluff
Hedwyn is probably next-worst after Jodi and Volf
Shae gets to be insane very quickly
She's probably the best in the game
Snap Cast is mental
gloomy owl
I use him with sunken shadow pamitha to great effect, but Pamitha is easily my star for all situations.
Pam/fae/flex tends to be my core for liberation rites.
gloomy steeple
Also the one that gives you infinite stamina when you have the orb is insane
gloomy owl
Gotta go fast.
Pamitha being able to aura burst mid-orb is just insane though. I'd put her at #1 over Fae for just being so lethal (obviously worse with Shax)
It's funny to me that the best banisher came from the race represented by a saint.
urban hollow
Godspeed best doggo! sniff
I feel so out of place being here on my first playthrough. Some of this sounds concerning.
vestal bluff
Just enjoy the experience! Pyre the first time is about the journey and the story
You can git gud when you get to True Nightwing mode
...But at the same time, don’t go back thru this channel, there’s some mega spoilers here
strong maple
I want to play through again and lose some lib rites to certain triumvirates now. The only time I’ve played thru I’ve one all of them, but I wanna let the fates leader free now, I kinda feel bad
solar ravine
I lost (not on purpose) to the Dissidents, of all triumvirates. Turns out it's pretty funny what Barker gets up to when freed
strong maple
Yeah, I went really try hard in my play through, I won every single rite. Only after beating Pyre did I realize that winning isn’t the goal per se
strong maple
Yeah, I will next time I play through. I think I will do a tw
solar ravine
I think I didn't even have a lib rite versus the Fate
heavy hill
I'm going to sound really bad for this, but not clearing Rukey's debt is the best ending for Barker and Rukey alike
urban hollow
I've only lost one rite so far, and re-did that one. That may have been a one-of though. We'll see. (Or rather, I'll see.)
urban hollow
My book nerd pro-literacy and intellectual freedom self is trying to justify buying the pyre poster as library appropriate decorations because of the juxtaposition of reading, freedom and liberation.
I can totally write a paper about this!
(yes, I do these sorts of things or I intend to.)
olive scroll
A question: I thought juxtaposition meant a contrast of two opposite concepts in the exact same "place". 'reading' and 'freedom' aren't exactly opposites, and 'freedom' and 'liberation' are directly related. What do you mean by it?
slate dune
Juxtaposition does mean contrasting formally, but I think here he just means that pyre symbolises those themes
urban hollow
My bad, I meant side-by-side, but forgot about the "for purpose of contrast" part. (Thought it could go either way. For an academic, I'm not that on top of these things.) I would not say symbolism as they are literal features and not necessarily symbolic. If you can't read the rites, you can't access the information to leave the downside.
slate dune
I mean more like the imagery of pyre, like the raiments and the star
So the poster itself is a symbol for those themes
Whereas the game is an embodiment of those themes
urban hollow
Ah. Gotcha.
slate dune
Either way, a library with a pyre poster sounds like my kind of library
urban hollow
It's still in the hypothetical phase, but I've decided to make it a personal point to bring video games up to literary and art level in a cultural value sense.
mild falcon
Uh oh you'll make Mr ebert very sad :(
swift mango
Shoulder Smash always seems awesome but anytime I'd choose it, I'd end up having wasted the points because I can never get it to work properly, or whatever.
maybe I am just really bad with using it 😛 It did save the Nightwings' hides a grand total of twice when I used it in vs mode some time ago now, but that was it...
vestal bluff
It’s one of those things where there’s only a certain situation when you need it, but it saves you in that situation
Like, against the Withdrawn and Essence it’s super good
gloomy owl
So, out of curiosity, do they ever go into much detail about what Celeste and Tariq are?
And why Celeste is such a jerk to Tariq, for that matter? Like, do they have history beyond being opposed celestial symbols?
Because man, they are two of my favorite characters, and none of my playthroughs ever go into detail about them.
(And if you can tell me how to learn more, I would love you forever)
spiral osprey
The most detail we really get is that they're referred to as the Heralds from the Stars, and they've been around a Long Time
Tariq was buddies with Ha'ub
onyx forum
AH MY FAVORITE SONG jcnvnb
i think abt heralds every day but im about to go to sleep soon so take this fic for my # Thoughts https://jodaaariel.tumblr.com/post/178145855190/celeste-fic-time-yeah-celeste-wants-to-be-a-star#notes
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16664704 this fic is also a real good take imo!!!!
gloomy owl
Hmmm. That's a shame, I would love to know more about their relationship.
spiral osprey
Celeste is a jerk to Tariq because she perceives him as shirking his duties...whatever those are
It also seems like they may be required by role to be separate
Since Tariq explicitly says he doesn't accept the Scribes' will if it means they have to be apart forever
onyx forum
☝ ☝
gloomy owl
Yeah, that's what I found so interesting.
I mean, it kind of hints at some kind of romantic feeling?
spiral osprey
Yeah
gloomy owl
Like, I am 100% into that. I want to know more.
onyx forum
celeste clings to her rules in a way tariq doesnt..... they read as tragic exes to me 😔 and im rooting for them to at least be friends again after the game
their connection runs deep and theyll never be able to break it
gloomy owl
Yeah, same here. I mean, that ending song implies at least some kind of happy ending.
If a song can be lore, that is.
onyx forum
of COURSE it can
spiral osprey
I'm just over here still happy the moon is presented/coded as a boy and the sun is coded as a girl bc that's the Opposite, of how it usually is and it's refreshing fhfjgk
onyx forum
YES!!
gloomy owl
Yes!
Also, side note, I love that Sap art you have for your profile. Did you get that commissioned?
Ven, that is.
I mean, obviously, but y'know.
spiral osprey
Ohhh boy
Well, uh, this was a gift but if you'd like to commission @kind iris , idk if they're taking commissions rn but they might be
Ravenea has some History ahahaha
onyx forum
im gonna make like a sap here and log 
off for the night
gloomy owl
G'night!
onyx forum
gn!!
gloomy owl
Ooooh. Do you have a tumblr page or something I can see?
Because
I am very interested.
spiral osprey
astro gave me ravenea as an advertisement strategy clearly ghfkgk
gloomy owl
I mean, it's a damn good one.
spiral osprey
IT IS AND I LOVE HER
the design is by strayracoon who...doesn't appear to be on this server
She also does commission work but she's been quiet for a while
kind iris
https://twitter.com/astr0dile ven has banned me from showing the bodypillow manley i made but gosh dangit i wouldve used that as an example bjhbgf
Twitter
eager hatch
can I see the full image for that artwork
kind iris
ravenea will always be in my heart 😔 💕
eager hatch
since it's hard to see when it's small
spiral osprey
Who, ravenea?
spiral osprey
Gimme a sec to dig her up lol
eager hatch
Okay!
spiral osprey
spiral osprey
FHFJGJFKF I LOVE HER ASTRO
kind iris
LET ME REDRAW HER ONE DAY ILL DO IT RIGHT NOW EVEN
spiral osprey
ASTROOOOO
kind iris
😫 VEN!!!!!
spiral osprey
You have to repaint ur signboard bc the colors are fading fhgkgk
kind iris
HAAHSDB BASICALLY
spiral osprey
http://venhediss.tumblr.com/post/170714368336/oh-its-her-its-ravenea-pyre
i did a drawing once too but i like astwo's better
kind iris
i love pyre ocs so much 😫 💕 ravenea always gonna be my top #1
spiral osprey
so i keep using it as my icon
ravenea is a gift given to me by an entire server and she's very special
kind iris
BLESS HER...
spiral osprey
here are some other good artists from the ravenea days you should check out
i found strayraccoon's tumblr, she did the design initially
http://strayraccoon.tumblr.com/
and then savi...what's savi's url these days
kind iris
idek but savis art is so 👌 👌 👌 gucci
spiral osprey
ah, she's still at snakeshax
swift mango
"I'm just over here still happy the moon is presented/coded as a boy and the sun is coded as a girl bc that's the Opposite, of how it usually is". Oh yeah! Huh, I never thought of that...
swift mango
I, too, interpret them as a tragical couple, like Kamila already said.
They're great and I love all of their interactions!!
gloomy owl
Quick question because I can't math- how many exiles should you have for the final liberation rite if you get each one before it?
It's either five or six, right?
Or was the sixth the final one?
gloomy owl
Damn, this might mean that I have to use the Gilman I benched for the whole game.
Or I have to intentionally let the opponent win in the penultimate rite.
Neither option is appealing.
eager hatch
I guess you better learn how to Gilman in the practice rites then
gloomy owl
Gilman is super rough in TN mode.
Mostly because as you get more titan stars, he becomes too squishy, and his ability to cheese things and jump into the pyre is mitigated by the fact that all the endgame auras are massive.
He simply doesn't go far enough- or if you use his unique trinket, he runs out of stamina too fast.
eager hatch
Makes sense
gloomy owl
Then again, there's always the Pamitha solo carry. She... is kind of absurd in endgame, even if she has a rocky start.
eager hatch
My one gripe with the practice rites is that you can't practice with Titan Stars
gloomy owl
Same, honestly. It's always jarring to go against non-yslach once you get used to it.
You're like: wait- why are you so slow? Why don't you dodge with inhuman precision?
(Yslach is bonkers and I love it)
Oh god, I'm becoming Udmildhe.
eager hatch
Oh my god
But yeah the AI just seems so slow and unresponsive with Y***** inactive xP
gloomy owl
TAKE ME TO THE STARS, YSLACH
And honestly, that's probably for the best. I imagine that Pyre is primarily meant to be a narrative experience first.
If the NBA Purgatory Jam section got too hard, it would be difficult to really enjoy that.
Yslach is just there for masochists like us.
eager hatch
Yeah
sacred mortar
I’m gonna be honest I think Yslach on TN is the best difficulty level in the game but I can see why it’s not for some
Your wins and losses are so important to Pyre’s story but on normal mode you’re gonna win every rite except maybe against the TN and one or two others
gloomy steeple
One more thing we know about Tariq is that he knew the scribes. He mentions that when he's talking to Ti'zo.
eager hatch
Zhae mentions that too
"Have you walked with the Scribes themselves, because, I think, maybe you have?"
When she first meets him
gloomy steeple
oh yeah
blazing shadow
this sounds mean, but does Pyre get better? I got it and I'm not really a fan during the tutorial...
Does it get better?
onyx forum
YES
thick carbon
There’s a really deep story to it that grows as you meet new people which is what appeals to me, but if you’re asking if the gameplay changes a whole lot it doesn’t tbh. If you can’t stand limbo basketball you do a lot of it so uhhh
It depends
onyx forum
longer answer, the story gets gripping, but if you flat out hate the sporrts, itll be morre of the same
blazing shadow
I'm too much of an idiot to juggle three characters at once
so like is that the gameplay for the whole game?
cloud quartz
Its a bit of a learning curve but you get used to it
vestal bluff
You get a ton more characters, who each have their own skill trees and talents
You get items, and there are a good number of different arenas which change the feel of the game too
blazing shadow
hmmm
I want to enjoy the story and characters but i don't really like the gameplay
onyx forum
tbh u can still get a good story off losong every rite
thick carbon
Yeah but let’s be honest that’d be depressing
onyx forum
hdjfjg tru
vestal bluff
If the problem is having three guys on the field but you can only move one at a time, then that doesn’t change
The rites get more fun as you progress, cause you can do more stuff, but if the concept itself isn’t something you like, then idk
onyx forum
it still requires a lot of split attention even if youre only focused on 1 person yeah 😔
vestal bluff
A bit, yeah
But this fellow’s not even done one real rite yet, I’d say it’s too early to judge
onyx forum
tbh tbh even tho i enjoy the rites theyre way outside my focus ability, so i play by intentionally going "these abilities dont matter"
and just Dont salute, toss, or switch often bc i know i cant handle the mental load
but yeah, give it a try out of tutorial, hope it gets more fun!!
vestal bluff
Kinda has to be tho. It’s a tutorial after all
But kam’s perspective is perfectly valid too, there certainly is an amount of brain-RAM needed to play a 3-on-3 game by yourself
If holding a ton of stuff in your head at the same time isn’t fun, not much left to consider
heavy hill
Or you can just only use Rukey and rush the team the entire game
cloud quartz
Yeah but
Tbh i didnt care for the gameplay at first but after 2 rites i started really liking it
Just takes some getting used to for some people
vestal bluff
Also completely true, and that's independent from rites generally getting more fun as you level up your team
mild falcon
Easy difficulty is still engaging and worth trying if you can't get into the difficulty
solar ravine
And you can switch difficulties on the fly if you decide you want more challenge after all (or if you're me and getting stomped by the Essence over and over and over)
blazing shadow
I really want to like it, but I feel like if I can't get into the gameplay, I just won't enjoy it
vestal bluff
While there is a chance it just isn’t for you, Pyre gets more fun in a bunch of ways as you go on. Bottom line is that you can’t judge by the tutorial alone! Continue your journey, and see what you find!
lavish ridge
also i can't think of another game that's done such a great job at mixing a deep story into the mechanics tbh
like everything you do in the rites ties right back into how the story plays out
even if you lose
which was definitely an incentive for me to keep playing
that said, i ended up liking the gameplay a lot, so i guess your mileage may vary
vital spindle
I was surprised and confused at very begining (even when I saw trailer, tbh). I mean, it was something like: "Did supergiants made a basketball? Really? No way". Honestly, I even was upset.
But when I had started my journey, met all this character, listen to falks and the whole story...I had lots of fun and rites are incredebly well placed and their gameplay kinda fits the story, I guess.
radiant spoke
I feel ya, Mosgon. The sportsball aspect of Pyre was one of its weaker points for me personally, as I also don't really enjoy that kind of gameplay. But for me, the amazing story made it more than tolerable. I just couldn't really play with a crazy number of handicaps like I could in Bastion/Transistor.
olive scroll
One thing that I feel SG is an absolute master at is turning artefacts of the video game format into elements of the story. A player can only realistically control one person at a time? It's a rule in the rite to encourage teamwork. Silent protagonist? She literally had her voice stolen. Narration? It's one character telling a story to another
swift mango
COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!! Everything, absolutely everything, is tied into the story! It's GENIUS!! Even the difficulty systems--the gods, the Titan stars' rage. It's BRILLIANT! I remember as 2017 dawned and I could finally begin counting down the days until Pyre came out [and I really did do this on New Year's, the literal -moment- it became 2017 I started thinking about Pyre; and I journaled all of my questions--how would it compare to Bastion and Transistor, what would the main menu music be like? I guessed it would be Path to Glory [since that was one of the only ones they'd released then, and it IS kind of fitting!] and one of the things I was really, really curious about and looking foward immensely to was how they would integrate the difficulty system into the story!)
And, upon further inspection, it goes even deeper, really. The Titan stars relate to the present story of the game and it's world, but they also relate to the PAST of that world, thus strengthening the world-building....it really is absolute Genius.
lapis hemlock
anyone else listen to no commentary pyre playthroughs while doing homework or is it just me
ripe stag
that doesn't sound very interesting tbh, it'd just be the soundtrack and occasionally the voice
since pyre has limited voice acting that isn't in gibberish
wide river
soundtrack, sound effects, the voice acting - aside from AJ, i can see how that would be a fairly chill thing to do homework to
ripe stag
eh, at that point you might as well just listen to the soundtrack imo
onyx forum
youre minding your business....writing an essay as your nightwing friends chat around you....when suddenly......... READERRRRRR
eager hatch
@lapis hemlock that honestly seems like an interesting idea
also since we seem to have access to the audio files I wonder if we could assemble something like that that's more refined
wide river
brighton yells at you for three hours asmr
eager hatch
jodariel grows frustrated at being unable to cook now that hedwyn is gone for three hours asmr
gloomy steeple
technically the non AJ voice acting isn't all gibberish. There is a bit of a language that they made for Pyre
someone on here has a Sahrian dictionary
like Nox alas is nightwings, gratias is thank you etc.
ripe stag
Ligaratus=reader
vestal bluff
@Ven get in here
The people need you
Might not be awake. I'll see if I can find her dictionary thing
Ven is more dedicated than most - this is her work, not mine!
spiral osprey
@vestal bluff i'm sorry, i was asleep 😂
the people needed me and i was away from my post....
thanks for keeping the links on hand gkjfghfd
vestal bluff
Didn't really have them 'on hand', but I knew they were around here somewhere
This is a solid fandom
urban hollow
I actually like the 'gibberish' language. I find I'm more inclined to focus on the text and really catch what they are saying instead of half-listen and half-read. I already hit the same thing in Okami, unless that game is speaking Japanese and my white Euro-centric brain can't tell the difference.
vestal bluff
Plus it makes the moment with Volfred possible
swift mango
I agree with you, Syrgei/Lamia!
It's a beautiful language, and makes the world more mysterious. I think it wouldn't be nearly as mysterious if they all spoke English, and that would be too distracting with the visual novel ish format, like you said. 👍 👍 👍
mild falcon
I was thinking having a unique spoken language would make it easy to translate
Do volfred's English lines get translated into different languages
Because otherwise that would kinda kill the effect for non English speakers
eager hatch
@vestal bluff huh, in that Codex
they forgot X
which you hear in Xae, pronounced zay
spiral osprey
duly noted!
i haven't really updated it in a while, i've been working on other stuff. but especially with the transcription it's counterintuitive to use an "x" to represent a "z" sound
the x sound is most often represented by "ks" too, because it's clearer!
there's not much point in arguing over proper sahrian spelling, since we never see it written down, so the best I can do is establish a transcription standard
eager hatch
'never see it written' yeah that's the point, just ask androbeles
mild falcon
The game gives you full access to one of the only books in the universe
eager hatch
Well it's not one of the only books in the universe
I'm sure you saw that ending screen xP
spiral osprey
yeah, the book written in "English" for all the help that is
strong maple
Hey, I remember a while back someone posted an unused song, the scrapped version of Vagrant Song, but the backing track actually made it into the sound track, does anyone know the name of the song that made it on?
vestal bluff
Wonder if it's New Union?
strong maple
That’s it! Thanks
stoic junco
Okay. I was missing for like a month. What interesting stuff was happening here?
solemn sparrow
slate dune
What ever happened to the multiplayer league thingy? Is that still a thing?
vestal bluff
I'm in the process of making a server just for people to find matches over Parsec. Stay tuned!
The original thing in #self-promotion kinda got buried before many could respond, so I figured this would be the way to go. It's still there though, give it a read if you're interested!
eager hatch
@vestal bluff If you need help I have experience organizing servers
I would love to help out
vestal bluff
Much appreciated! I'll DM you soon
eager hatch
What's Sahrian for "Pyre for Switch"
gloomy owl
So hilariously enough, my kitten seems to try and pounce/kill my Ti'zo plushie whenever the opportunity arises.
And I just get this headcannon of Ti'zo versus kittens.
weary plinth
Do people play Pyre competitively?
vestal bluff
No
spiral osprey
I was just about to @ you Failer haha
vestal bluff
I beat everyone who thinks of it XD
spiral osprey
"Oh this sounds like a Failer question"
Failer's working on setting up a server so people can find each other and compete remotely using Parsec to set up matches
vestal bluff
I've got something in the works. Check #self-promotion in the near future
forest widget
notes down "Failer is the person to talk to if someone needs a shutdown in Pyre"
There we go
weary plinth
Oh that's really cool, I was hoping something like that would pop up.
forest widget
Useful information
vestal bluff
Except Morgan. He's better than me
spiral osprey
I would be able to hold my own but the Pacific Ocean nerfed me.
spiral osprey
only the biggest 
about the pacific ocean
soon our dark mother the ocean will rise and pull us all beneath the waves
weary plinth
Don't worry, it probably nerfed the Polynesians too until they discovered the sail.
vestal bluff
But, yeah, there are limitations to the preferred method those of us who've played use. You gotta be on the same continent as your opponent, unfortunately
delicate girder
P.S.: With Bastion and Transistor coming to the Switch, you might be wondering, what about our third and latest game, Pyre? The thing is, our games are built on our own custom tech so it's not a small undertaking for us to bring them to new platforms. So, while we haven't ruled anything out for the future, currently we don't have plans to bring Pyre to other platforms.
Instant depression.
Really wanted pyre on the switch if just for the multiplayer alone.
Sitting down with a friend and just play a round or five on the go sounded awesome.
modest sigil
If they ever port Pyre to Switch, it's a day one purchase for me
lavish ridge
yeah, pyre would be perfect for the switch if it ever gets ported. i sure hope it does!! would love to take the rites with me on the go
onyx forum
DISCLAIMER NO PRESSURE HDHFK but i think a lot abt how cool rites on a touchscreen device would be
swiping with ur finger for auras, doubletap for jump....its intuitive!
THAT SAID ITS FINE IF THAT NEVER HAPPENS
upbeat sage
It would be an instant pre-order as soon as announcment happens for me
But of it doesn't happen 
Their are many other awesome games to play and emjoy
Like that hades game 😉
tropic haven
I’d even like to see Pyre on mobile.
rich sequoia
Pyre online for mobiles 🙌
modest sigil
I don’t know if I’d buy on mobile, but why not both? 😊
foggy panther
Pyre on mobile would be great! I think the gameplay is awesome
to play multiplayer pvp
onyx forum
i take it back i take it back NOBODY ASK FOR MOBILE PYRE hfjfnhfnfjfh
onyx dragon
Hi! I am Japanese fan. Happy with Hades announce, but I wanna Japanese in Pyre.
spiral osprey
Hi! I don't think Supergiant is doing more translations for Pyre right now, but fan translations are welcome!
onyx dragon
Yes, I know. But Pyre is very difficult for me...
Some Japanese translated Transistor into Japanese, it is very good fan translation.
spiral osprey
That's good to hear!
I can see how Pyre would be difficult. There's a lot of text and it can be hard to understand.
I can speak Japanese, and I think there are others here who speak Japanese too, so if you have questions, please send me a message!
I can try to explain, haha
onyx dragon
Thanks
I played Pyre a half in English, I love this setting. But it is hard to read.
Hades is easier in English, it seem now
jade sedge
Pyre hades crossover dlc when
maiden burrow
god i hope pyre comes to console at some point
seeing bastion on the xbox store gave me such HOPE
sacred mortar
Honestly no game is ever complete without falcon ron
vestal bluff
Ron would have to die to get to Hades, and as we all know, Falcon Ron is immortal
onyx forum
you have to retroavtively add him into bastion n teanrsbjussj
damn im more tired than i thought mfnvbc
vestal bluff
"Hey, remember that game with the singer and her sword boyfriend?"
Oh, you must mean Supergiant Games' famous teanrsbjussj
onyx forum
this server NEEDS to adopt trna as proper spelling its lifesaving
forest widget
trna?
vestal bluff
A typo of Transistor, but an actually convenient one
sacred mortar
Trnasister is my favorite game
onyx forum
trnasito....basion...........pyre and hades are short enough
sacred mortar
Trnasito... despacito and old friends mashup?
lavish ridge
i'm still amazed that supergiant's been able to have a one-word title for every game
like you'd think they'd get to a point where they're like "we can't do a 1 word title without infringing on a copyright" but they haven't
truly a superpower
vestal bluff
Transistor and Pyre are reasonably obscure I guess, but Bastion i'm pretty surprised wasn't taken already
young folio
it was a pre overwatch world
tawdry geyser
Yeah. Bastion was a relatively obscure word back then
It's not a word used in normal conversation
grand frost
did people not refer to holdouts for things as the "last bastion" of anything?
I see it a fair bit in fantasy
tawdry geyser
They did, but that comes up very rarely in conversation
wraith eagle
trying to find a clip of when Volfred is set free w/ the liboration right as a refrence for something im writing
Finds this 🦆 ditty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgcZygFFTbI&ab_channel=ironicfailrp
This has under 1k views and its a SHAME
young folio
A CLASSIC
wide river
no profanity, please
wraith eagle
@wide river it has been replaced with a duck
wide river
👌 thank you
wraith eagle
you're 🦆 in' welcome.
shut star
Hi.I'm Japanese Bastion and Transistor fan.
I bought Hades aand this game looks very nice in the initial stage of development.
In addition,menu and UIs are Japanese!
I'm looking forward to Hades' official release.
mmm,I'l buy Pyre if the game translated into Japanese!
Bastion ->good japanese fan translation
Transistor->good Japanese fan translation/official japanese translation
Pyre->no Japanese fan/official translation
spiral osprey
@shut star Another Japanese fan was saying that last night. I think there are enough Japanese fans and Japanese- and English-speaking fans that a fan translation is possible.
But Pyre is a very big game with a lot of text. A project like that needs organization.
spiral osprey
If we could organize something and show proof of organization to SGG, they would probably be willing to work with us to make editing the files easier.
shut star
@spiral osprey He's my friend 😀 . I'll discuss it with him
pearl matrix
I I'm trying to beat the True Nightwing with all Titan stars not losing even a one rite. I know this game isn't about this but it's my personal challenge. So, in the first cycle i was able to beat all opponents before the Withdrawn. Then i stuck.
Do someone know some useful advices for this rite, in that circumstances?
spiral osprey
@vestal bluff ?
onyx heart
so uh
has anyone pulled some of the voiceline scripts from pyre?
people were talking about translations and i know i found some of the Narrator/Archjustice's voicelines written down somewhere
(by 'pulled' i just mean 'opened the document containing them')
paper turret
Withdrawn are like the toughest for me as well, both in True Nightwing and regular. I hate their 2 imp composition in the Liberation Rite) Don't have any solid advice though
vestal bluff
I’ve been summoned!?
Alright, against the Withdrawn the first time around, the key is keeping Udmildhe off the field. The imps are good, but she’s the real threat, just ‘cause she does so much damage. You should have Bae with Snap Cast by now, so put her in. If Rukey has Lightning Run, put him in as well. Your third can be anyone, but I might pick Jodi here - keep her by your Pyre and lunge into opponents while they charge up their throw for the ol’ “give the Orb to the opponent and then banish them” trick.
pearl matrix
You should have Bae with Snap Cast by now, so put her in.
I probably would win this rite if i was able to have Bae's 2lv. But i was needed Jodariel +35 fire for reliable victory against two previous triads. Maybe i should just refuse to do that and give +1000 exp item to Bae.
pearl matrix
Only Jodariel has level 2. There is not many ways to level up, before this rite and create a strong build.
vestal bluff
Hmm
And you picked the +35 over the double-rush
OK
Maybe bring Ti'zo along in place of Rukey, if he's got the better movement speed ability?
pearl matrix
I just gonna start from beginning and try to bring lvl2 Bae to 4th rite.
pearl matrix
Actually i prefer TiZo with Webbed Lanthorn. He can do the same that Sir Gilman with Vengeful Vow but also have fine aura and can banish adversities that hides behind the walls.
vestal bluff
Oh, for Ti'zo, I didn't meant the item, I meant his Elusive Nature skill
pearl matrix
Yeah, he just not leveled up yet. Also i already tried it in previous playthrough and it didn't worked as well as i expected.
I find combination that allow me to prevails in every rite on every map with all Titan Stars but i need just survive for this in campaign, heh. It's ain't easy, for me.
dusk lagoon
Has anyone got the Pyre foil badge on steam?
tawdry geyser
How much is it?
young folio
i dont remember the site that calculates cost off the top of my head but around 5-6 dollars
tawdry geyser
Hmm
spiral osprey
@onyx heart Yes, I have all the voice lines pulled and organized in an excel document
onyx heart
it's been a while since i looked at them but thank you for confirming my hunches
lost quarry
Never to Return (The Accusers) on Russian from GamesVoice and Gala Voices. https://youtu.be/zyg8rsuSMTs
forest grove
Yeah y'all found some people with great sets of pipes for your project
Translation is always such a pickle though, but kudos to you for doing that anyway, cause it gives a good game exposure it deserves!
vestal bluff
Alright, continuting from #h1-discussion
prisma obsidian
So, who is best girl and why is it Bae?
vestal bluff
It's Sandra
tawdry geyser
It's Fae
humble thorn
It's Jodi
ember wraith
It's all of them, you fools
prisma obsidian
🅱ae where 🅱 stands for 🅱est
small void
Weird way to spell Jodariel
tawdry geyser
Fae is best name
onyx forum
pamitha exists hello
ember wraith
I agree with fae
zinc river
I chose Shae
vestal bluff
Shae 4 life
onyx forum
and CELESTE
small void
Ah, the feathered edgygirl
vestal bluff
Celeste scary
onyx forum
gae and rhae are my faeve naemes
prisma obsidian
No, it's Tamitha
onyx forum
celeste sad more than scary to me ;;
vestal bluff
faeve
naemes
prisma obsidian
Pamitha is a cool wine auntie
cloud quartz
either pamitha or sandra
small void
Im gay for Jodariel
cloud quartz
maybe jodariel
pliant sigil
sandra is my fave
heavy hill
sandra all the way
ember wraith
I actually really like Bertrude as a character
prisma obsidian
^
vestal bluff
I sense you're not a complete idiot
cloud quartz
bertrude is good
pliant sigil
she's kinda offputting but she's good
cloud quartz
she's more like family instead of wife material tho
prisma obsidian
Isn't wife like family
humble thorn
the sad thing about pyre is that i saw so many people ignore it cuz they didn't want to play a game from SG that wasn't about hacking and slashing
pliant sigil
i welcome this emoji
ember wraith
"Nay, it is enough... it is enough" is probably one of my favourite lines in the game
shadow lintel
She just doesn't have time to waste on fools
cloud quartz
well yeah
shadow lintel
Sandalwood ain't no fool
Also shes probably the most powerful once you get the trinket from her trial
vestal bluff
Hedwyn's interactions with Bert are great
Dare thee make flirtations on us!
pliant sigil
oralech deserved better
onyx forum
bertrude shows up and immediately roots thru volf's bags to get potions ingredients. we stan
shadow lintel
Did you not give Oralech better?
pliant sigil
it was not enough
prisma obsidian
Nah, he is used to down under anyways
cloud quartz
rip
shadow lintel
Did you not give your freedom so he may have his
pliant sigil
i did but he didnt seem happy to me
prisma obsidian
Nah, I sent up Bae last
cloud quartz
lol no. i took my freedom
prisma obsidian
So that she just like screwed around
ember wraith
I make him as difficult as possible and if I choose depending on who wins
vestal bluff
I always give Oralech all Titan Stars when I face him the last time
Got to make it a real challenge
ember wraith
Ayyy
prisma obsidian
Oralech did a flip tho
pliant sigil
also what happens when you dont free him is super depressing
onyx forum
as long as hes together with volfred its good uou
small void
I personally think its cruel to send the Moon-Touched to freedom
vestal bluff
Potentially depressing
There's other endings
prisma obsidian
Nah
ember wraith
Really?
small void
Because she seems happy in the Downside
onyx forum
ae can only go free if jodis there
shadow lintel
I find it only appropriate that you follow in the footstep of the Eight Scribes
zinc river
I used to not like Shae
ember wraith
I can't only free one
vestal bluff
Gotta pair up Almae, on one side or the other
zinc river
But I'm warmin up to her
pliant sigil
i freed the stowaway during the final rite
pliant sigil
i left volfred/bertrude/tizo in the downside
vestal bluff
Shae's also the best in the Rites, so there's that
prisma obsidian
Yet it was thanks to her I dunked Oralech
ember wraith
Real talk though I wanted to do a run where I freed everyone except the original three but I just couldn't go through with it
shadow lintel
Shae is a funny way to spell Bertrude
vestal bluff
gib pasta
ember wraith
The what
pliant sigil
i had to free jodariel first because she was the only one eligible for freedom and i was sad
prisma obsidian
Whoops, profanities
vestal bluff
Oh, I think I remember it
prisma obsidian
Gonna clean a little
vestal bluff
Yeah ↑
prisma obsidian
Let's say the reader is a real bad guy who wants to hurt as many people as possible, in ways both petty and significant.
What choices should be made?
From the adversaries: Fate stays for sure. Bog-crones want to resurrect Yslach and generally are up to no good, so they go up. So does Manley Tinderstauf, the manipulative leech, to do whatever he wants to the Commonwealth, and Sir Deluge, who completely deserves his sentence and didn't atone at all. Accusers stay, what's with Lendel going mad from despair and all.
Nightwings: Ti'zo and Bertrude are really happy in the Underside, so they go up. No one really likes Fae up there, so she should have gone up, but that would mean being together with her only friend, so no can do. Doesn't matter which harpy stays and which goes, as long as they stay separate. Gilman went to exile voluntarily, so he's going up too. The rest should probably stay, since that would maximize the Plan's failure chance.
What I'm going to do with Rukey is really fun, so I'm saving the best for last. From his prayer, we know that he wants back the most out of them, for the sake of his family.
First, we either never resolve the issue with his debt, or lose the bet so it doubles, if possible. Then, we let Barker out, free to collect it from his family.
Then Rukey is never going to get anointed, while the rest are, for thematic significance (Jodariel to lose to Tempers, etc.) until the very last match. Then we let him pray to the Scribes, anoint him, win the match, and have the Reader go up instead, hitting two birds with the same stone: letting what's his face kill himself and taking the last bit of hope away from Rukey forever.
shadow lintel
What
prisma obsidian
Yeah
prisma obsidian
Yeah, that was the other one
pliant sigil
that sounds atrocious
prisma obsidian
But it will require changing like half of the pasta to pass wordfilters I guess
cloud quartz
that plan is sadistic
wide river
which harpy stays and which goes, as long as they stay separate actually putting them together technically might be worse
it depends what your criteria is
frank patio
why would you hurt poor Rukey D:
pliant sigil
pamitha wants tamitha to be freed
prisma obsidian
That's why you free Pam
vestal bluff
Tam injures Pam pretty badly if they are together doesn't she?
wide river
if they're together in the downside or they're both liberated, tamitha injures pam's wing so bad she can't fly
prisma obsidian
You dun goofed lad
vestal bluff
I freed Pam in my second time against the Essence
And I'd do it again, knowing the outcome from that
prisma obsidian
@turbid mural I said about worst game as in Bastion one
Pyre was really nice, and I liked the VN look, but it didn't kinda appeal to me like Transistor
turbid mural
ah
prisma obsidian
It was, maybe, less intense? The content was spread more thinly over longer game?
Also the ending was too sugarsweet
pliant sigil
i mean you can hardly compare the two games
prisma obsidian
And I was a bit sad when I found out that no matter what you do the Republic will take place
pliant sigil
entirely different atmosphere and gameplay
prisma obsidian
Welp, but you can still like one more than other
pliant sigil
ye
prisma obsidian
Although gameplay in Pyre was kinda better in a sense that almost any character could be OP
While in Transistor there were certain combinations that were far more OP than other ones
And Transistor was not really hard, also
Like in Pyre with ten Titan Stars I've been sweating profusely
pliant sigil
i died a lot against royce the first time
but once you get the hang of it it's a breeze ye
prisma obsidian
In transistor with all limiters it's still playable casually and a cakewalk with right build
turbid mural
oh god, void is a disgusting skill
vestal bluff
I very much like the 'symmetry' in Pyre
Your opponents are just like you, rather than being a more PvE kind of thing
I loved the Royce battle in Transistor for this same reason
humble thorn
Pyre's reveal trailer got 710K views in two years, Hades' reveal trailer got 769K views in two days, hmmmm
vestal bluff
Shoulda gone to the Game Awards 2017 then
humble thorn
i get a feeling that people don't like to throw balls
turbid mural
pyre felt weirdly marketed
pliant sigil
i hated basketball in PE
turbid mural
the store description said it was an action RPG, but it's basically a visual novel/sportsball hybrid
prisma obsidian
I was expecting american football from the beginning
turbid mural
i mean you role play as a prisoner basically
prisma obsidian
Based on two or three gameplay fragments