#pyre

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lime mural
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Nothing like playing Pyre with headphones on at midnight while the rest of the house is asleep.

hard ledge
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They can always hear your crying

lime mural
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Was it ever clarified how exp works in Pyre?

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Like, what dictates how much exp a character gets exactly

sacred mortar
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Well it does show you what amounts you got for which thing

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Like if you won the rite you’d get a certain amount for that and it’d say that

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But idk if there’s more that it doesn’t tell you or not

spiral osprey
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Seems like everyone gets the same amount of experience for comparable things. Like participating in a rite gives all the participants the same amount of enlightenment, and not participating gives the same amount of inspiration. Inspiration always gives a boost proportional to the amount of inspiration, and tutoring always gives like +1000 enlightenment or something huge like that

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I'm sure there's a script somewhere with the exact amounts but it does also tell you how much you get whenever you finish a rite or whatever

lime mural
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Oh okay, that’s kind of what I figured but never tested anything, thank you! Hehe

mild falcon
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yeah tutoring is 1000

mossy flare
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p sure if you have inspiration, you gain double enlightenment, but the bonus enlightenment can't be more than the amount of inspiration

young folio
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i might be completely wrong, but i think the max you can gain from inspiration is 500?

mossy flare
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True, because the max you can gain from a rite is 500

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and inspiration doesn't interact with mentoring

lime mural
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is that from each individual rite, or in total?

mossy flare
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per rite

lime mural
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ah

lunar flame
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:delugethink:

wet kiln
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UNvalid

sharp willow
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When you start activating stars XP really starts getting interesting...

mild falcon
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If you activate shax six shoulders all your xp becomes complex numbers

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There's nothing shax loves more than square roots of negative numbers

onyx forum
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shax square root of 6 shoulders

wet kiln
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OH FJDKLJHg

frank token
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where my Pyre rank bois at c'mon

vestal bluff
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Flame on!

wide river
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🔥

nova light
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I like both Pyre and Transistor but the Transistor role took priority :c

frank token
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The strands have broken alone, but twisted we make a braid

vestal bluff
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YOu're Pyre now tho

wide river
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you can't tell because mod rank takes priority over pyre rank but. love me some pyre.

nova light
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aye

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I'd do the all the games role but I've yet to actually play Bastion

patent dagger
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Same here ^

wide river
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yeah but if you have both transistor and pyre rank, transistor rank will take priority and turn your name blue

sacred mortar
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I’d do all games but I don’t actually like Bastion

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I love Transistor and Pyre equally

frank token
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Peer pressure

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You're an exile by heart

wide river
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you: i love all sggames equally
you, earlier: i don't much care for bastion

civic pasture
wide river
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hey, i think i remember watching that one!

nova light
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At some point I want to draw Oralech. Probably after exams are through

onyx forum
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👏 👏

olive scroll
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at pyre players anonymous

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I ... ask Rukey to shave his mustache

frank token
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That's okay.

toxic locust
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shocked gasp

frank token
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I did once to see what he looked like.

tardy moth
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I definitely 500% thought it was going to be an approval rating thing, and didn't realize until subsequent playthroughs that it could actually change his appearance

spiral osprey
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Rukey appreciates your candor regardless of what you say :')
I've never actually gotten Pam giving her hat to him

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I didn't know it was a thing until I dug through the sprites and found her hatless sprites

vestal bluff
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I definitely didn’t expect hatless Pam’s hair to look like it did

sacred mortar
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For a while I thought Pam’s hat was just part of her head for some reason

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And then they had that conversation

vestal bluff
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It does have a feather on it

hard ledge
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game theroy

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what if the reader was sans undertale

oblique wren
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Wait what

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Pam can give away her hat?

spiral osprey
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yep! i don't remember the exact conditions for it

onyx forum
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you have to get the conversation where she says she'll give him her hat, and then lib her before rukey i think

oblique wren
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Oh wow

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Guess I’ll try it on my next playthrough

spiral osprey
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i always lib rukey early so i guess that's why i keep missing it

barren topaz
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can confirm, liberate Pamitha while you still have Rukey after they've had the conversation about her hat

gloomy steeple
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Pam also doesn't have her hat in the epilogue

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iirc there's another scene too, but I can't remember what it is

wide river
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i've found the exact noise ti'zo would make if you tried to take his fish plushie

mossy flare
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tHIS IS PERFECT OMG

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tizomg I love it

lunar flame
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Imagine Rukey

mild falcon
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Aw man I had a hot take about pyre but I forgot

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Oh right this is what it was
Sap digging being equivalent to flying makes gameplay sense, but not really any logical/narrative sense, which causes ludonarrative dissonance.
I imagine that the sap dig being separated was tested and found unbalanced.

spiral osprey
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yeah, gilman's swimming is the same way

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there are definitely stages where you should not be able to blink, physically speaking lol
it's magic basketball though so anything goes

torpid niche
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Hey, I thought if we find a reliable way to play Pyre online we could make a SGG Discord Tournament or something like that, what do you think?

void venture
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Oh boy that would be amazing.

mild falcon
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...do you consider parsec a reliable way to play pyre online?

vestal bluff
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I was just about to say that!

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Patch, a number of us used a program called Parsec to play Versus against each other

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It basically streams the host’s screen to the guest, and takes in the guest’s input as though it were local to the host’s computer

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Latency isn’t perfect, but if you’re on the same continent, it’s pretty good

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@torpid niche the actual application is pretty small and not really demanding on the host’s computer, and you only need an email to make an account. The main requirement for both players is good internet speed

frank token
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A tournament sounds awesome

torpid niche
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Oooh, sounds good :D
We can try and make an actual thing

vestal bluff
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Want to play a few matches in Parsec to get the hang of it?

sacred mortar
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It could be live-streamed so people who aren’t participating could watch

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I’d be totally down to be in a Pyre tournament

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But would there be tournament specific rules? Cause I know some of the characters in versus mode can get kinda stupid like Oralech

vestal bluff
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I’ve always found Oralech to be a bit overhyped

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He’s good but he needs synergy to offset the 30 second ban time

sacred mortar
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Yeah that’s why you get a character that can res him

vestal bluff
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I tried him plus the two wyrms against Morgan once, but got beaten

sacred mortar
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I found the Fate Cur whose name I can’t remember and Sandra to be good teammates for him

vestal bluff
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Dalbert

wide river
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dalbert is sad that you forget him so easily :c

sacred mortar
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But that was against AI so idk how it’d do against real people

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I wanted to call him Dalton but I knew that was wrong

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Iirc Sandra has that res ability that Nomads get so she can bring Oralech back

vestal bluff
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That’s definitely one of the best masteries in the game

sacred mortar
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And Dalbert’s just nice for easy scores with no penalty

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I think the best mastery is the one the Savage gets that removes stamina costs for sprinting and jumping when you have the orb

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Cause you just run to the other side of the screen and nobody can do anything about it

wide river
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mae op

torpid niche
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Now I can't, but we can play tomorrow :D

sacred mortar
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Mae breaks the campaign

mossy flare
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I know the best synergy

wide river
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my sweet daughter whomst i adore

mossy flare
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Ignarius, Jogi, Oralech

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if you're allowed to, give them all Enduring flame ;)

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so +105 to your pyre

sacred mortar
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Oh yeah would the tournament just use preset skills or allow you to choose them

mossy flare
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Oralech gets moon crest for his hope stat

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Jodi gets +8 quickness talisman, Ignarius Ashen Coal

sacred mortar
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Cause if you choose them it’d be a mess of Maes running everywhere and 200 hp pyres

mossy flare
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So total 235HP for your pyre

Yeah that'd basically be it lol

vestal bluff
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I would let people choose skills

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Presets are OK, but I think too weak

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4 Masteries + Talismans is the way to go

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Alright, so if Patch is out for the day, either of you guys want to have a match or 2 over Parsec if you're at your computer?

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They recently added the ability to be a guest within Chrome, so all you need is an account (though that way has worse performance than the desktop app)

sacred mortar
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I can’t today since I’m going to a Halloween party

mossy flare
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pyre is on my PS4, so I couldn't use Parsec, rip

sacred mortar
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Also my internet sucks and it’s storming here so that might be an issue as well

vestal bluff
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Angels, that doesn't matter. I've got Pyre on PC, so I can host you no problem. All you need is to plug your controller into your PC

sacred mortar
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Yeah you don’t have to own the game

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Parsec is just streaming a window on your pc to someone else’s pc and letting them do inputs

mossy flare
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Oh, that's awesome

Can't now (real tired since I just got back from my great-aunt's house), but I can tomorrow or some other day if you want to schedule some games

frank token
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I can’t play today, but tomorrow can maybe work

mild falcon
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the pyre prop video is gonna be pretty silly

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uh so the design process of this is that we made a big black orb

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uh we made sure it was nice and round

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we put some glitter in it or whatever

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it's light but please dont toss it around

onyx forum
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i want the orb so bad

fallen veldt
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its the stick pyre symbol from mae

onyx forum
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sgg let me win a home makeover to fully decorate my room like the blackwagon

mossy flare
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ngl i would pay an irresponsible amount of money for the orb, or the Book of Rites if replicas of those existed

mild falcon
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"ok so we bought this lute, and then we spray painted it white. now it's a white lute. have fun"

onyx forum
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I WOULD PAY ANY AMOUNT FOR A GENUINE WHITE LUTE

mild falcon
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well you can get it for free if you register for the newsletter ™

onyx forum
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gives greg my firstborn child for tariq's own personal lute- oh? a newsletter? oops,

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HSMGKG YEA

mild falcon
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material cost:
toy lute: $11
white spray paint: $3
labor cost:
1 hour: $14
shipping:
$20 max
48 dollar white lute???

onyx forum
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👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 OH HMSTVE

stoic junco
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@fallen veldt
She's Fae!

kind thunder
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I agree.

slate dune
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It's supergiant, they don't skimp on a toy lute, this would be a real sweet sounding lute

barren topaz
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I would learn to play lute for that

heavy hill
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betting on a talking, animated celestial orb

wide river
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for sale: haunted orb that drinks all your pepsi and calls you mean names

onyx forum
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👏 💯

mild falcon
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sandra would never drink pepsi

sharp willow
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10/10 Sandras could tell the difference during our blind taste test

vestal bluff
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She must be a tad parched after 837 years of not drinking anything

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Maybe not tho

onyx forum
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evil reader: gives her seltzer and says its water

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fun pyre fact! in the draft of pyre where the teams had patrons one of them was in fact coca cola. and thats what the masks looked like. unfortunately when coca cola pulled their sponsorship sgg had to cut that part

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(jk)

vestal bluff
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This happens if Barker gets liberated and the Rites become popular topside

mild falcon
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rite masks end up looking like racecars

onyx forum
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hbfhfhjfhj coca cola famous for first brand to use english letters

vestal bluff
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Who does Ron sponsor?

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Rukey for sure if he gets out

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Would Volfred wear the Slugmarket symbol on his mask, if Ron offered?

onyx forum
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HM... good question gjkgjk

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whats greater, volfred's pride or his 'maybe this will come in handy as a connection'

vestal bluff
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What's a greater pride than representing Ron????

mild falcon
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-1 glory, permanently

vestal bluff
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Worth

mild falcon
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Ron: is pepsi ok

digital geyser
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Ron: is water downside pepsi ok

gloomy steeple
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pepsi is never ok

prime shell
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I’m 100% sure sgg is going to do a black wagon with your own drive imps as their next giveaway 😤😤

mild falcon
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they're gonna sell hula hoops with leds in them bc they're your "aura"

prime shell
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Sell Falcon Ron

digital geyser
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A bottle of water to douse a camppyre

prime shell
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1 (one) plant

It’s a surprise on whether it’s poisonous or not

ripe stag
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What if they made collectable pyre figurines

onyx forum
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what if they took all my money

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essentially gjkgkgjk

ripe stag
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Amiibo style

onyx forum
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omg thatd be cuuute

ripe stag
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As long as they don't make funko pops, those things suck

onyx forum
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YEAH...

cunning tapir
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what if they took all my money

you mean they don't already?

onyx forum
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funko knows how to make cute figurines as a company its just the pops that r so bad
i wana find a groot to repaint as volfred tho

wide river
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some funko pops are cute

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it really depends on how well the character translates over

mild falcon
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theyd have a funkopop rukey with removable stache

ripe stag
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looks kind of terrifying tbh

mild falcon
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and volfred doesn't?

wide river
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he's my dad of course he doesn't

spark moon
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Wow that's a thing

narrow kite
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I'm a designer and had been reluctant to buying a Mac because it was expensive. Now i got one for work and decided to give my Windows laptop to my sister because she needed a computer. I was a little sad that many games wouldn't work, if any on the mac... Turns out, Pyre works! So excited!

frank token
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What if

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They give away a dog

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That looks just like Rukey

ripe stag
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What, like a schnauzer?

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Actually dalbert looks more like a schnauzer

frank token
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I don’t even know what Rukey is

umbral dust
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Maybe they give away one big thing, but then as like second place winners they give away some of those masks that they wear

mossy flare
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raiments would be awesome

frank token
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Holy crap yes

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Raiment costumes as prizes

nova light
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ngl if I were to ever do a cosplay, I'd try to get some friends together and make a triumvirate

eager hatch
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I'd love to do that too

verbal geyser
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I have already idly started wondering just how much blue fabric I'd need to get to make a set of raiments...

eager hatch
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I am not good at fabric stuff

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I have practically zero experience with it, so that's why

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also I can't help but wonder if you'd have to slay a lesser titan to get the right fabric

sharp willow
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I mean slay the right titan and you have six shoulders ready to go

eager hatch
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true

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wait

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wasn't he a skeleton

verbal geyser
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what do you think happened to his skin

eager hatch
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fair

sharp willow
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^^^

eager hatch
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wait didn't the book of rites mention that

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gah I need to go study in private at this time it again

verbal geyser
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that was yslach, right? to bind the book of rites

eager hatch
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no

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we're talking about Shax Six-Shoulders

wide river
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shix

sharp willow
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hehe

eager hatch
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shix more like

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shinx

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amirite

sharp willow
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slacks shix-knees

dusk current
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The cutest of the titans.

eager hatch
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Heh

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Also Shax Six-Shoulders versus Shaquille O'Neal

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Who wins

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as if this game didn't have enough basketball already

sharp willow
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Shaq knows Shaq Fu...

eager hatch
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Yeah exactly

mild falcon
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Imagine shax six shoulders doing like 3 basketball tricks at the same time

wide river
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but they'd both get flattened by the batmobile

lusty heart
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make him a globetrotter

eager hatch
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@mild falcon perfection

wide river
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actually i played myself bc now i just have the song stuck in my head

eager hatch
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What song

wide river
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ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny, which i would not recommend listening to around small children

eager hatch
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Heh, all right

sharp willow
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BTW. If anybody hasn't played this, they should.

eager hatch
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Didn't they make a remake of Shaq Fu for the Switch?

sharp willow
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Reviews for it are... not great

eager hatch
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Oof

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Also yesterday I started my first True Nightwing playthrough of Pyre and I got a bit greedy with the Titan Stars and got trashed by the Dissidents

sharp willow
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Oh yeah it's tough!

eager hatch
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I did a whole bunch of Practice Rites and won reliably

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Then I got trashed by the Withdrawn too

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x.x

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I think I'm gonna practice on Versus Mode so that I can practice with the Titan Stars

sacred mortar
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I’m about halfway through a True Nightwing playthrough

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I trashed the Dissidents but didn’t even score once on the Fate

eager hatch
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Ouch

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Hey wanna be extra confused? Try playing as the Beyonders against the Tempers or vice versa

verbal geyser
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In my True Nightwings play through I managed to win against the Chastity on six Titan Stars. I like to think that I was fuelled entirely by an intense need to pummel Manley into the floor. I won very few other matches on that run, haha

sacred mortar
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I’m doing minimum titan stars as it is

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Will probably do more on later playthroughs since this is only my second

gloomy steeple
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Somehow the only time I beat all the lib rites was my True Nighitwing play-through.

eager hatch
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I only lost two Rites my first playthrough, and neither of them were Liberation Rites

sacred mortar
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I lost once to the Pyrehearts on the first match against them

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And then went out of my way never to play against them again

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Though I did have to do a lib rite against them since I avoided them so much

eager hatch
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On my first run I gave Jodariel the Tailwind Crest and fully upgraded it

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It was great

olive scroll
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Which one was that one?

eager hatch
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That was the one that increased Quickness

slate dune
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I always tried to amplify someone's strengths rather than nullifying their weaknesses

eager hatch
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Yeah that's fair

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But fast Jodariel was fun

verbal geyser
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I lost to the Pyrehearts every time and it was honestly embarrassing for everyone involved 😬

eager hatch
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...Are they really that hard? Maybe if you aren't using Jodariel I guess

verbal geyser
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I dunno, I just don't have that great a reaction time I guess haha

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wyrms: nyoom
me: oh no

eager hatch
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I don't remember having to have that much of a reaction time for them

cloud quartz
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I just fly over everyone with pamitha

mild falcon
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wyrm ai seems to want to run right into jody

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deluge x jodi confirmed?

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thinking about delariel

eager hatch
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Also my entire first playthrough I didn't catch that Sandra's eyes were sealed shut

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I just thought she was blind and had green eyes

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And had them half-closed for smirk purposes

ripe stag
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yeah i always assumed she just had a smug look on her face

forest grove
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Great, now I can't unsee the look Lumi just described

lavish ridge
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important question: has anyone cosplayed as falcon ron

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i was thinking about it on the train this morning, and I Need to Know

lime mural
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How much $ was Pyre at launch?

cloud quartz
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20$

lime mural
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I haven't seen a Falcon Ron cosplay yet, actually

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Was it really? wow I thought it was more.

cloud quartz
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At least it was 20$ when i got it which was like 2 months after release.

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It wasnt on sale or anything when i got it

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Tbh i think pyre couldve been sold for $30

lime mural
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Gotta give SGG credit. Quality > Quantity 👌

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Oh I totally agree.

lunar flame
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🙌

tame quarry
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It was closer to $30 with the game and soundtrack

vital spindle
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I didn't try it out yet, but want to question it here first: is it hard to find match in PvP mode?

upbeat sage
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PvP mode is local multiplayer only afaik

vital spindle
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O_o okay =\

sacred mortar
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You can just ask people to play here though if you use Parsec

vital spindle
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@sacred mortar thx for advice! Didn't know about Parsec, shame on me

sacred mortar
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No problem

eager hatch
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I tried using Parsec but it didn't work well with my boyfriend

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Maybe once he gets a better computer?

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But I was the one hosting...

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Then again, this computer is pretty dang good, so

vestal bluff
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Computer power usually isn't the problem, it's upload speed

eager hatch
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Fair enough

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Let me check mine

vestal bluff
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Speedtest.net will give you a good reading for this. 10mbps upload is the minimum, for 720p

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If you are the host, that's required.

eager hatch
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I got 6.02Mbps upload

vestal bluff
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hmm

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What about your bf's internet?

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If he's got >10, he could host

eager hatch
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Uhh I don't think it's any better than mine, but I'll ask him

vestal bluff
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Worth a shot 🤷

eager hatch
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Yeah

vestal bluff
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Anyone else just get an update for Pyre on Steam?

vestal bluff
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Yo @brisk whale what's goin' on?

onyx forum
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about the pyre update or like in general

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OH obviously abt pyre ignore me gjkgkgjkgbjk

vestal bluff
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The thing I was thinking of didn't get fixed, so idk what this could be

frank token
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Probably just minor bugs.
online update wheeeeeeeen

wide river
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never

sacred mortar
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one can only dream

vestal bluff
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Online multiplayer today

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Get Parsec my dude

onyx forum
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parsec !!!

eager hatch
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but my upload speed isn't good enoughhhhh

vestal bluff
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If you've got time now, I can host you

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Just to see what it's like, if you want

sacred mortar
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If we got online play in game I’d even be fine with peer to peer connection honestly

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I love Pyre that much

vestal bluff
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Could do it via Steam IDs maybe?

sacred mortar
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I know you can just Parsec but it’s tough if your internet isn’t great (like mine, which is garbage) and it’s a whole extra step

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Honestly my only real issue with the game is the lack of online play

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But I understand why it’s like that

vestal bluff
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They wanted it originally

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There's a bit of unused code that deals with server connections

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And a little function that determines which side of the screen is the local player

eager hatch
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@vestal bluff Sure I could try it

vestal bluff
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Nice

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Mind if I slide into your DMs? Don't want to spam up this channel too much

eager hatch
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I don't mind at all

lime mural
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I'm also wondering what's with the update

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There's no announcement as far as I can tell

rugged gulch
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Yeah I got that too

nimble cloud
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Man I got my switch last week and I'm already anticipating playing Pyre on it. Controls would be smoother than my janky mouse and laptop I played it on

eager hatch
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And being able to hand off a joycon to a second player

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Mmm yes

nimble cloud
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A glorious time for the people in Commonwealth

eager hatch
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seriously though pyre would benefit the most from being on the switch due to its multiplayer so it kinda baffles me a bit that there isn't currently any plans to port it, I get that porting it is a lot of work but couldn't they port that instead of one of the other ones

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Oh well

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It'll probably happen in time

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Maybe we'll even get a sweet new bonus track like She Shines

eager hatch
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...dangit

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xD

nimble cloud
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Lolol

ripe stag
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That archjustice pic looks like a deep fried meme

lunar flame
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It does omg

verbal geyser
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time for an icon change. my favourite wiggly hero

eager hatch
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yay

vestal bluff
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So, did we ever figure out what that update a few days ago was?

eager hatch
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No word yet

vestal bluff
narrow kite
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This has probably been asked but what are the chances for pins of each of the triumvirates?

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The nighwings one would look so sick

onyx forum
young folio
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“Our latest patch improves our in-game bug reporter to help us better track down any lingering issues!”
@vestal bluff

vestal bluff
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Neat O

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Wait, there was an in-game bug reporter?

spiral osprey
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i assume it's something that logs crashes or sends error data back to sgg?

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or it's something they built in for their own personal qa testing

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as in, they're putting the game through more paces now while looking for any remaining bugs

vestal bluff
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They’re doing another round of bug testing a year after release!?

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Wonder if this implies anything about the engine’s capabilities for SGG4?

spiral osprey
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I mean, idk, i'm just speculating

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it seems like it would always be good to have a solid mechanism for finding bugs

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if it's a reporter it does seem like it's probably for like...tech support purposes

tough hinge
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Ayyyyy so im showing up late to the party with Starbucks but Pyre is really good and I wanna hear other people’s favorite parts/aspects of it

cloud quartz
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Everything

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My fav part is everything

vestal bluff
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Yeah, it's really the whole package

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It checks every box in the "what I want from a game" checklist

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Great story, highly interactive (choices matter), high replay value, PvP mode, and yet individual matches are short enough that you can kill like 5 mins in a Versus mode with the CPU

cloud quartz
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Tbh, i like everything in bastion and transistor too but pyre was the one that got the biggest emotional reaction out of me

vestal bluff
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Liberation is such a great emotional moment.

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You've lost a valuable teammate, but you're happy about it

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Like, basically every time in video games, if you lose a major character, it's them dying in a cutscene or something. Gameplay-wise, it's death, but Pyre flips that on its head really well

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Hedwyn actually says something like "look at me, I'm talking like she's..." if you can get Jodariel liberated

onyx forum
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pyre cast feels like my family tbh....we are bound together

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its fun and beautiful and one of the warmest, most comforting games ive ever played

frank token
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The thing that does it for me in Pyre, is that it transcends being a game. It’s a journey, that you embark on with its characters. It’s able to fulfill every aspect with flying colors, and be unique in its own right.

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also more Pyre pins please

onyx forum
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👏 👏 yesss its so good!!

frank token
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my hat already has Ti’zo, so I need my favorite Triumviates on the other two places that I can put pins on

onyx forum
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ooooo... i dont have the tizo pin yet, im gonna buy it for myself soon as a chanukah gift >:3

frank token
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He gives me the Scribe’s favor in my everyday activities. He’s my good luck pin.

onyx forum
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aawwww!!!!! 🙏 ✨

frank token
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I also have the jodariel shirt. I have to explain to my friends that Pyre isn’t one of the metal bands I listen to

vestal bluff
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I always thought that Jodi shirt was way more metal than Pyre actually is

onyx forum
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its such a cool shirt

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wildly powerful

verbal geyser
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I adore how there will always be bittersweet choices to make, and some characters won't necessarily be happy or will be conflicted, but no one makes you feel bad about it - they're all, hey it's okay, you've got hard choices to make, we'll figure this out

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(I still feel bad sometimes though)

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Like the conversation you can have with Jodi if you liberate the Moon-touched Girl first clutches heart and collapses to the floor

frank token
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I mean Pyre has some good material for power metal music

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Fantasy cults and religions, legends of heroes slaying massive beasts

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Never to Return could sound good in a metal cover

eager hatch
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Hegemon HootsToday at 12:25 PM
I also have the jodariel shirt. I have to explain to my friends that Pyre isn’t one of the metal bands I listen to```
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I completely cracked up laughing

onyx forum
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just gotta send em morgans metal band link and pretend it's this cool band called PYRE

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morgans in both so teeeeeeeeechnically not a lie? ron

vestal bluff
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The Dissidents’ Never to Return is pretty solid

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Didn’t someone draw Tariq and Celeste as, like, a rock duo?

frank token
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Yeah, I saw it on the subreddit. That’s one of my favorites.

mild falcon
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this pic by jen zee is my fav

frank token
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That’s on the vinyl, right?

mild falcon
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I think so

tough hinge
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Ahhh honestly all this is so great and I’m glad to hear all of your experiences

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I definitely agree on the “choices matter” aspect, Pyre is one of the few games where I actually spend considerable time before selecting an option because I know there will be consequences that I don’t anticipate, and I love it

eager hatch
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So do I

vestal bluff
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Plus the Rites are fun on a bun

eager hatch
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The Rites are great

tough hinge
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The rites are great man I adore the difficulty scaling in the AI

vestal bluff
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Some reviewers said that the Rites were kinda shallow which is just bizarre to me

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Me, who's killed an hour straight just trying random combos of characters and abilities in Versus

tough hinge
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Eh, gotta take reviewers with a grain of salt sometimes haha

vestal bluff
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Quick Fling + Shooting Star is really fun fwiw

tough hinge
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Oh nice

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I also love the beyonder crystal challenges, they really do push me to get better and use characters in ways I hadn’t expected

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IE I’ve finally started playing Jodi more aggressively and she’s sooooo good for me now ahh

vestal bluff
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Plus Sandra calling me "not a complete idiot" is always nice

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Oh yeah, Jodi = goalie is definitely something that can change in the blink of an eye

eager hatch
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I like Sandra

vestal bluff
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Only complete idiots don't like Sandra

tough hinge
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Sandra is an adventure lol

vestal bluff
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"An adventure" is right squirtheh

eager hatch
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I feel like one of the things that broke the immersion for me was going to talk to Sandra and then just "oh, it's grayed out"

mild falcon
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How do you even play demons agressively, the punish is so hard

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Maybe one of the cursed thingys?

onyx forum
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make them speedy

eager hatch
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I used a max upgraded Tailwind Crest

onyx forum
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and then just jump everyone away

mild falcon
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Big stompy

vestal bluff
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Double-lunge + reset lunge on hit is really all

mild falcon
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Yeah I can see why that would work

vestal bluff
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You just wait your moment for all three of your opponents to be 2 lunge-lengths away from each other

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Then bam

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Slow-mo triple slam

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The ol' crash'n'bash they call it

eager hatch
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relevant

vestal bluff
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That's the spirit

frank token
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You can really cripple the enemy if you can work your demon to the Pyre. They do insane amounts of damage.

nimble cloud
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Give them the ol razzle dazzle

sacred mortar
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I’ve done entire matches just scoring with speed boosted Jodariel

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She deals stupid amounts of damage

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And it’s not hard to give her a decent speed stat, especially since she can jump across half the field

nimble cloud
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I love zipping around as Ti'zo

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When you have infinite zipping power

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It's hilarious

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And his aura is so huge

spiral osprey
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infinite flutter....

nimble cloud
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-ae is still my fave

mild falcon
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i played my whole first run with infinite flutter

mild falcon
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it's just too good

eager hatch
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how do you get infinite flutter/zips

mild falcon
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dunno if zip ever gets infinite, but flutter becomes free if you max out the imp scribe talisman

eager hatch
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ah nice

nimble cloud
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Zip does get infinite

eager hatch
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is the sap scribe talisman any good

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I never really used it

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I just used the presence-increasing talisman

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for volfred

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like I got it from sandra but then just never bothered to use it

ripe stag
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i find that by the time you get it it's not really worth investing in

mild falcon
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is volfred even good for how late you get him?

nimble cloud
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He's wonky

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I tried to get his blink up

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But it was not very good at scoring

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His defense though

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Like your opponent won't ever get to score unless they fly

eager hatch
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Yeah I never bothered to try to score as Volfred outside of Sandra's trial

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Also VOlfred's shield blocks flying

nimble cloud
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Yeah but when you summon his little seed

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And you might be far away or something

lime mural
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I don’t know if this has been said before, but you know the night Tizo joins your party and you have to fend off the howlers as Bae (yeah that’s right, Bae). I expected that to be a recurring thing, because I thought it was so fun.

Why does that only happen that one night? It was good practice so I guess it’s just meant as a beginning tutorial?

spiral osprey
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yeah, it's just a tutorial; technically a similar thing happens again when you recruit gilman

mild falcon
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sometimes in the beginning of rites a new member will ask if they can show you their moves

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when there's no option for that, a special level is implemented

lime mural
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Oh that’s true! I didn’t think about that, I guess that one really stuck with me since it’s toward the beginning

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All those mini games would be fun little gauntlets hehe

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Which I guess we kind of get with Sandra anyway

mild falcon
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the minigame thing might get old after a while idk

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i like that theres just 2 of them

lime mural
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Yeah I wouldn’t say add them as random encounters

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Meant it more of an optional content sort of thing

frank token
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I’ve always had a hard time playing _ae

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My aggressive fast playstyle, her delays have made many frustrating moments

wide river
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so give her the skills that get rid of the delays

sacred mortar
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Yeah she gets around that pretty easily

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Her and Tizo are actually two of the best characters for being aggressive

wide river
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"taunting launches you towards the orb if nobody has it" + "when you have the orb you have infinite stamina" = 🔥 🔥 🔥

sacred mortar
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I love that Tizo lets you just roll up on someone’s Pyre

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Like he goes in, self-destructs, and then you grab the orb and warp directly to their Pyre

vestal bluff
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Snap Cast is one of the best skills in the game

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I’d say Mae is probably the best character in the game

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Snap Cast, Quick Fling, and Dark Vigor are all insanely good

sacred mortar
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Mae is easily the best

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I’d say Tizo, Hedwyn, and Bertrude are the other best ones

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The others all have their strengths though

vestal bluff
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Bertrude is up there for sure

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Rukey I’d say is above those other two

verbal geyser
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I was so excited to get to play a bog-witch my first playthrough and I wasn't disappointed. Love flinging and skidding Bertrude around the arena

vestal bluff
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And Pam gets the aura burst skill which can be insane

sacred mortar
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Tizo’s just up there cause he can kamikaze to open a portal so you can warp straight to the Pyre or banish all your opponents

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And Bertrude is just kinda dumb in more ways than one

cloud quartz
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Bertrude is my fav

frank token
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Bertrude, Rukey, and Pamitha are the best characters rites wise

vestal bluff
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They’re all top tier, but they all score most often by jumping in. Mae’s the best cause she can get quick fling and keep the game 3v3 while scoring

wide river
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i never really got the hang of flinging the orb tbh!

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i only really went for it if i'd wiped the enemy team so i had the time to charge it up properly

vestal bluff
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Me too, most of the time

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Quick fling makes the difference

cloud quartz
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Tbh, the only reason why i never flinged the orb was because i really loved the animation of jumping into the pyre

wide river
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i made gifs out of a couple of them :D

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liiiike..... ignarius!

cloud quartz
umbral dust
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That’s pretty cool!

eager hatch
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How did you make that?

lapis hemlock
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I love iggy

mild falcon
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if barker could dab he would

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into the pyre

sacred mortar
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Hell I would too

vestal bluff
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Weird douse but ok

sacred mortar
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Better than Hedwyn just flopping in

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Everything else about Hedwyn is perfect

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Except his idea of a stylish goal

vestal bluff
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Hedwyns looks kinda like a high-jump

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Like at the Olympics or something

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Also

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Hedwyn PLUUUUUUNGED into their Pyre!

frank token
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his goal should have been him pulling out a frying pan to cook up a snack in the pyre

sacred mortar
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Yes

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I agree

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Someone needs to make a mod for that

vestal bluff
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Hedwyn MADE FILET OF SLUUUURGH in their Pyre

onyx forum
sacred mortar
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Wait

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It’s real

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Yes

lime mural
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Bae always forgives people who forget her real name. It's what The Scribes would have wanted. squirtheh

nimble cloud
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Fae you mean :^)

slow crater
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That's a funny way to write Mae.

onyx forum
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weird wae to spell rhae, but okae

upbeat sage
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Although we may disagree on her name, one thing's for certain she's certainly a bae 😉

onyx forum
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she is!!

cloud quartz
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Watch her name not be any of those

onyx forum
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i just hope shes having a nice dae

cloud quartz
onyx forum
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oh its draeke

tough hinge
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Why do y’all gotta make fun of her in this Wae

eager hatch
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I picked Zhae at first

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Then Xae

cloud quartz
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Shae is best

slate dune
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I did shae

ripe stag
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i went with mae, but every playthrough since i've gone fae

heavy hill
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xae best name

zealous spade
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Admittedly, I went with Tae since my WoW character's name for too many years I'd Taerus and hearing that name in another game tickled me, haha

onyx forum
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cant believe weve all forgotten about gae rites

cloud quartz
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😏

frank token
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the person below is triple mega gae

onyx forum
vestal bluff
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Gottem

eager hatch
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holy frick kamila

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that is amazing

onyx forum
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what can i sae.... guess im just amaezing ajfingerguns

cloud quartz
frank token
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prank’d

nova light
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For the vagabond girl I picked Mae most of the time

solemn sparrow
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Didn't answer any questions about making the Book of Rites...

dusk current
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Hey Firox! We loved working with Volpin Props and it would be great to do so again in the future, but as of now we have no plans for a Book of Rites or any Pyre props. We appreciate the interest!

solemn sparrow
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Aww.. Although, the Book is probably the easiest to make myself...

tough hinge
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Can confirm, bookbinding is much less intimidating than it seems- or you could just make a book of rites jacket cover!

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Now I kinda want to make a legit book of rites.... with illustrations and all..........

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Noooo bring back the meme

grand frost
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apologies for the meme

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oh?

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As you wish:

tough hinge
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Bless

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Let me just. Find 150+ hours out of my week to pull this off lol

mild falcon
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the hard part of making a book of rites would probably be getting some ys#### hide

verbal geyser
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wanted: one eldritch abomination for book-binding purposes. what do you mean you're out of stock?

young folio
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I am about 99% sure there’s a voice clip of the archjustice saying “do it” out there

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move aside star wars, we have pyre memes now

mild falcon
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redub the prequels with pyre quotes

young folio
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I’d like to think there’s enough AJ lines to redub at least 40% of the dialogue

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there’s so many

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So many words

ripe stag
#

The problem with making a physical copy of the book of rites is that it'd be really thin

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It's meant to be a massive tome but really it'd only be like what, 50, 100 pages?

sharp willow
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Pages made of titan hide are thick!

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Wait, it was just BOUND in hide wasn't it...

dusk current
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Vellum paper....

sharp willow
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Sap pulp

ripe stag
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Supergiant don't even know their own lore smh ron

dusk current
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😭

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Hey Morgan I don't think it's made from people.

sharp willow
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That's what they said about Soylent Green...

eager hatch
#

I still need to watch that movie

solemn sparrow
#

The Book of Rites has one thick cover, though. With that glass part and all.

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And you could fill in loads of pages with extra stuff, like Pyre concept art and music sheets.

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*Thinking intensifies *

mild falcon
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fill the rest of the book with pyre source code, to preserve it for the future

solemn sparrow
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Oh my

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Or, you know... you could just load it up on a 4 gb sd card and slip it into the cover.

mild falcon
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but what if in the future, all sd card readers are destroyed

eager hatch
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not destroyed

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banished

heavy hill
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the year is 2147
sd card deathsquads roam the streets, delivering large, compact justice at low affordable costs

tough hinge
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Oh nah, if I was gonna make the book of rites by hand then I would also hand-bind it and buy fancy black art paper for it too, haha! The type I have in mind (Reeves black lol) is much thicker than regular printer paper too so it actually builds up quite a bit of depth within just 60 pages.

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Then that way I could take some white ink and gold paint based pens to do the lettering of each page

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Which, mind you, will honestly be the hardest part because... I’m left handed, weeps... so no calligraphy for me........

eager hatch
#

left-handed doesn't mean no calligraphy

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just write the letters in reverse order

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leonardo da vinci didn't write backwards to keep his stuff a secret, he did it to keep ink off his hand

tough hinge
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I mean this is true......

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Alternatively, I could just print out stencils and paint it in

vital spindle
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Didn't even thought about that thing, that you should write backward, if you are left-handed

lost quarry
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Two unshipped versions of Vagrant Song on Russian from GamesVoice and Gala Voices:
https://youtu.be/EAIFDvq2eMg
https://youtu.be/5jO237JXTgU

Адаптация песни Vagrant Song: Unshipped #1, создана в рамках полной локализации игры Pyre. » Сбор средств: https://vk.com/page-25637666_55653829 » Группа по ...

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Адаптация песни Vagrant Song: Unshipped #2, создана в рамках полной локализации игры Pyre. » Сбор средств: https://vk.com/page-25637666_55653829 » Группа по ...

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eager hatch
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I think they used the wrong instrumental

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x3

verbal geyser
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i think they used the right instrumental. that sounds so epic!

eager hatch
#

but that's an entirely different song

wide river
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not to pull the "well, actually" card, but i'm absolutely going to pull the "well, actually" card

eager hatch
#

does it sound cool: yes
should they have probably made it more obvious that they intentionally used a different instrumental in the case that they did: also yes

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xP

wide river
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the first of these videos uses "new union", which follows the same tune as "vagrant song"; the second uses an unused version of cagrant song's instrumental from the game files

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hence the unshipped in the name

eager hatch
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ah, I didn't listen to the second one for as long

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makes sense

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also I really need to make my own version of the vagrant song

gloomy steeple
#

I've always thought it was a bit strange how "a new union" was a different version of vagrant song

lost quarry
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It's a localization of the early prototypes of the Vagrant Song. We used the original instrumental.

verbal geyser
#

Honestly I'm really interested in why the New Union theme and the Vagrant Song are different versions of each other. And the early prototype lyrics too, which have a bit more of a hellish theme to them. It feels like there's a story behind that track's development and how it ended up used in the game.

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Anyway, that Russian version is awesome!

verbal geyser
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Unrelated: does anyone have a list of the journal entries in Volfred's Planner? I keep meaning to read them as I play through the game and keep forgetting to... three times now and I've missed a bunch facepalm

wide river
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i can get em for you

gloomy steeple
#

that happens to me too

stoic junco
#

@verbal geyser
I would say that this Russian version is decent, but not exactly good. It "meets expectations", which isn't bad, but in this case is not good enough.

young folio
#

...not "good enough" for what?

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its a fan project, and i dont know russian but it does sound awesome to me

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people create fanworks out of love for the source material and not necessarily to meet some sort of standard. they also have not asked for criticism, and i think "not good enough" is not a fair criticism at all even if they did ask

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i dont think its right to tear down fanworks you dont like so harshly

verbal geyser
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You're not grading a lesson here, @stoic junco, don't be rude. If you didn't like it, just stay quiet and let other people enjoy making and experiencing creative stuff, geez 🙄

stoic junco
#

That was my overall feel about those tracks.

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I mean, translation was decent. By concerns were mainly with the voice work. It just didn't quite fit.

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The official Vagrant Song translation by these guys was working a lot better. Don't really know why, but it is good enough to listen to and has on-point translation.

young folio
#

What I’m trying to say is that it’s not polite to say, even if you feel that way

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People put a lot of effort and heart into their fanworks and honestly, most people post their work to get positive attention and compliments. And there’s nothing wrong about that

stoic junco
#

Fair enough.

young folio
#

It’s better to say nothing at all than to say something negative, especially if they didn’t ask for criticism

eager hatch
#

And it's not like you were being constructive about it either

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You were just saying "this isn't good enough"

stoic junco
#

I usually try to provide constructive criticism if I have legitimate concerns about the product.
This was not such case. So I have to agree with you.

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My comment there really was not a good idea. In hindsight, obviously.

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Tried to write a sheet of words but realised that it was painfully pointless.

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Anyhoo, I think I have to apologize.

olive scroll
#

Just had a thought: Pyre Mob AU.

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Volfred is the Godfather, Jodi is the bruiser, rukey is a particularly clever dog they've trained into running packages for the gang

sharp willow
#

Is Gilman the undercover cop?

olive scroll
#

Maybe. Hedwyn isn't officially part of the gang, but anyone who dares harm a hair on his innocent head gets promptly taken for a swim in concrete boots

sharp willow
#

So he's a mob wife?

olive scroll
#

Guess so.

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The other triumvirates are rival gangs

sharp willow
#

"You come into my house, on the day my Hedwyn is to be married, and ask me to do banishments?"

wide river
#

actual quote from me

olive scroll
#

Oralech used to be the Boss of the Nightwings, but Erisa tried to get rid of him by pushing him off a bridge, but Oralech dragged her down with him as he fell

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*ae's a street kid that hangs out near the gang's hideout, and was promptly adopted by Jodi.

verbal geyser
#

Maybe Sir Gilman was a cop who worked for a corrupt boss and dismissed himself from the force out of shame and is now in the mob because HE IS A DISGRACE and he needs to CLEAN UP THE CITY but he can't do that within the police force because THEY HAVE NO HONOUR!!

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reads that again geez, I have Vento Aureo on the brain...

olive scroll
#

Ti'zo is a pet bat that Volfred has for some reason. He's the one that sit's in his arms being stroked when Volfred is making thinly veiled threats at his rivals.

onyx forum
#

archjustice is a cop trying to get the gang in jail and reader is someone hes trying to bribe with inside info who betrays him for volfred

young folio
#

hey

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is it archjustices or archjustici

wide river
#

archesjustice

onyx forum
#

archjusti........

young folio
#

sdmjfhsk

vestal bluff
#

Archjustice

#

Like moose

sharp willow
#

A tribunal of archjustici

onyx forum
#

a triumverate of archjusti

wide river
#

but if i'm playing, and you're playing, and he's playing

#

then who's the voice

onyx forum
#

WE ARE ALL the voice

barren topaz
#

I'm imagining a rite being commented upon by three pompous voices instead of one and they keep talking over each other and bickering and it's wild

onyx forum
#

hfhjfhjfhjfhj

wide river
#

mom said it's my turn to commentate the rite

barren topaz
#

they're definitely picking favorites and might be taking bets

spiral osprey
#

justices of the arch

onyx forum
#

sisters of the arch vs justices of the arch FIGHT

wide river
#

archjuicetice

onyx forum
#

MHNGVKJGJKGJKKGVJKGKGJKGBJK

wide river
#

sparrow exiled for bad puns

onyx forum
#

it looks like hes trapped in there

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"can you hear me???? reader please let me out"

wide river
#

muffled temper tantrum yelling

onyx forum
#

YEAH HGKJHLKHKL

wide river
spiral osprey
#

Man, am I glad he's frozen in there and that we're out here, and that he's the archjustice, and that we're frozen out here, and that we're in there, and I just remembered, we're out here. What I wanna know is, where's the Nightwings?

onyx forum
#

AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

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sparrow for that image i WISH we had :birch:

wide river
#

you're welcome

sharp willow
#

hahahahahahahahaha

cloud quartz
wide river
#

my boy......... what did you do to him 😭

onyx forum
#

shaggy hedwyn...............................hedggy

cloud quartz
sacred mortar
#

cursed image

ripe stag
#

Extremely so

lapis drum
#

Does that make Rukey Scooby?

onyx forum
#

rukey snacks for new merch

frank token
#

like, zoinks, Rukey!

mild falcon
#

jodi as velma? or as daphne?

sharp willow
#

I think you mean Rukey 'Stach?

onyx forum
#

you are right...

#

That scrapped merch pic gets brought up in the office again like WAIT WAIT ACTUALLY-

eager hatch
#

archjuicestice

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I'm dead

ripe stag
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Pamitha would be Daphne, she's the pretty flirty one

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Fae is velma

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And volfred is fred

spiral osprey
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(vol)fred

mild falcon
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volfred: lets split up and look for clues

onyx forum
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volfred: everyone go this way and reader go the other way

barren topaz
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imagine the blackwagon painted like the mystery machine

onyx forum
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tariq: the scribes say it has to be in traditional colors but the scribes arent here and this looks funky

sharp willow
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I was looking for a gif of the gang pulling off a mask to reveal the same mask over and over... so I could replace it the Archjustice... but I could not find one.

barren topaz
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omg

onyx forum
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AAAAAAAAA

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guess u have to create it

eager hatch
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yes

sharp willow
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But... I have to leave work and go to band practice! SRY WORLD

barren topaz
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AJ voice: I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling Nightwings!

onyx forum
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YEAH!!!!

normal lichen
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So I have a question. I thought Volfred’s question about freedom was super cool and I wanted to see his responses for the rest of the answers without watching a bunch of random let’s players to hunt those down. What did you guys pick and what was Volfred’s response?

eager hatch
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What was the question exactly? I can't remember

onyx forum
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i picked 'nothing' once just for the lols and volfred got really concerned like "im really sorry for whatever trauma made you feel so hopeless" and i was SHOOK

spiral osprey
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oh oh i think we have this text, gimme a sec

onyx forum
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i was expecting him to cut me down for saying something dumb and his concern caught me way off guard 😭 🌳 💗

spiral osprey
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- Doing what you want    [Freedom means being able to make decisions on your own terms.]
+ You tell Volfred that freedom means having choice; if you are able to do what you want, both physically and socially, then you are free.
+ He considers your remarks for a short while.
Volfred: “Choice is freedom, then, you say. If that is all, then you are free already. Go, my kin, do as you please! Nobody's here to govern you.”
Volfred: “I trust, however, that this is not the freedom that you have in mind.”
Volfred: “Perhaps you simply wish to return home, and to be left alone.”

- Achieving inner peace    [Freedom means having a clear conscience and a carefree heart.]
+ You tell Volfred that freedom is a state of mind; while easier said than done, if you can simply be yourself without concern, then you are free.
+ He considers your response for a short while.
Volfred: “If that is so, then the Commonwealth that I recall... the Commonwealth that sentenced us to rot... that's not a place that fosters freedom such as you describe.”
Volfred: “Admittedly I haven't seen the Commonwealth in many, many years. However, judging by your presence here, I doubt it's changed all very much since then.”```
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- To feel true love    [Freedom means not having one's strongest feelings and emotions repressed or rebuffed.]
+ You tell Volfred that freedom is to experience pure, requited love, a state of deep emotional honesty and fulfillment. If you love someone and they love you back, nothing else matters.
+ He considers your remarks for a short while.
Volfred: “A romantic, are we, my kin? An interesting interpretation, and I'll grant you that when one is spurred by love, one tends to feel unbound by other forces typically at play.”
Volfred: “Nevertheless, the love that you describe does not supplant basic necessities, and may be unable to take root in certain circumstances.”
Volfred: “The love that you describe might well wither on the vine in such a place as this.”

- Going where you please    [Freedom means being able to go where the heart yearns, without restriction and without fear.]
+ You tell Volfred that freedom means having the ability and means to go where you please, when you please... the opposite of being cast into exile, and forced to chase the stars.
+ He considers your remarks for a short while.
Volfred: “Borders and boundaries exist not to limit freedoms, but to protect them. Though, perhaps this is debatable.”
Volfred: “Admittedly, we are not very free here in our exile, where the elements if not the stars conspire to prevent us from going where we please.”
Volfred: “Yet, if following the stars should lead us to an even greater freedom, then I should like to think we're making a worthwhile trade.”```
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- Living without fear    [Freedom means living life without concern for others' judgment or approval.]
+ You tell Volfred that freedom means living without fear, and not being subject to persecution or retaliation for one's thoughts and choices.
+ He considers your remarks for a short while.
Volfred: “...Good answer, my kin. I happen to agree. Fear takes hold in freedom's wake.”
Volfred: “But, fear is a natural impulse, is it not? A common feeling we all share from time to time, a deeply rooted impulse there to aid our judgment, and spur us on to acts of courage.”
Volfred: “If not for fear, I doubt we could accomplish very much in life. And, just now, we stand upon the brink of accomplishing something vital.”

- Having no master    [Freedom means answering to no one's will other than your own.]
+ You tell Volfred that freedom means not having to answer to anyone, and going through life beholden only to one's own will.
+ He considers your remarks for a short while.
Volfred: “Perhaps you led a troubled childhood, my kin, for all of us at one time or another have to answer to someone with more wisdom in the world than we.”
Volfred: “Though, you make reference to the kind of authority which governs the Commonwealth we know, which sent us down the river into exile.”
Volfred: “Would you be free if you were ruled beneath those bylaws once again?”```
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- Nothing at all    [Freedom is just another empty goal to chase, to give one's life a false sense of meaning.]
+ You tell Volfred that true freedom does not exist. It is a mirage that lures those such as yourselves into striving for something unattainable.
+ Nonetheless, the pursuit of such ephemeral ideas does help to pass the time.
+ Volfred considers your remarks for a short while.
Volfred: “I am sad to hear you say such things, my kin. Though, I am not surprised.”
Volfred: “You are an exile of the Downside. All has been taken from you, save your life. Despite how far you've come in your quest, you find it impossible to believe in a positive outcome.”
Volfred: “Or perhaps you're simply superstitious, and do not wish to recognize the glimmer of hope in your heart, without which you would not be here.”

- Remain silent    [Freedom means not being forced into responding to such questions.]
+ Your thoughts on freedom are your own. You hold Volfred's gaze but do not answer him.
+ You feel the tension growing but at last he breaks the silence on his own.
Volfred: “So! Freedom means you can defy me, is that it? Well, I suppose it does. Or, perhaps you haven't spared the subject any real thought, or don't know what you think I wish to hear.”
Volfred: “No matter. I pose the question to get you to think.”```
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sorry for textspam gkjfgdf

cloud quartz
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um, its been awhile but i think i chose "living without fear"

onyx forum
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Volfred: “Perhaps you led a troubled childhood, my kin, oh my god. this is the one (1) singular time im glad to have discovered text out of game bc if volfred said that to me with no warning id be like exploded on my chair

normal lichen
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Thanks for hunting these down!

eager hatch
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@onyx forum same honestly

onyx forum
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RIGHT???

frank token
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“Freedom is the ability to go where you please”

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Only in Pyre, does it allow your character to be a sovereign citizen

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“Archjustice, sir, am I being detained? I do not consent to exile!”

verbal geyser
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I picked the one without fear one, and was first secretly pleased that Volfred agreed with me, then wondered if he'd agree with me if I'd said any of the others. I like how, whichever one you choose, for most of them Volfred just picks it apart in front of your eyes before going "eh, that's valid". Volfred goes easy on no one

spiral osprey
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he's a professor! he's quizzing you, and taking a teaching opportunity

timid robin
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kind of feels like he's picking it apart at first

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but reading this, i'm not sure

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in some of them, it feels like he's trying to convince you to help him

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in others, it maybe feels like he's thinking out loud

frank token
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It feels more like he’s just giving his two cents on the matter.

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His educated opinion, mind you, but he doesn’t always agree with you, obviously.

verbal geyser
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On my first playthrough my attitude to Volfred was very much "get off my case, grandad!" right up until he mentioned Revolution at which point I did a complete 180 and decided we were now best friends. But he's definitely intense to the point of being intimidating at first. That probably influences my impression I had of him going into Debate Mode, I guess

timid robin
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yeah

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didn't trust him at very first

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didn't even talk to him

frank token
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I was more “quit stealing what I’ve worked for so far”

midnight timber
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I just didn't like how quick he was to assume you didn't want to be there and said you could leave lol

verbal geyser
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don't kick me off the team! don't tell me what to do!!

midnight timber
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after the philosophical debates and convos with him i quickly started to like him as he grows to like you

frank token
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I actually picked the leave option upon your first interaction with him. I was curious to how that would have affected the story, since I like to go down non conventional routes

verbal geyser
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oooo - what happens?

vestal bluff
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Hedwyn stands up for you

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You don’t just get kicked out by Volfred lol

verbal geyser
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Ahhh, nice that he does that for the different options then. I got very touched that he did that

vestal bluff
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That would be mega subversive tho. “Yeah, if you want to leave, OK”
YOU DIED

frank token
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#1 bro

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joins true nightwings

vestal bluff
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That would be cool as hell

midnight timber
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ooo that could have been amazing as a new game plus ending too

vestal bluff
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The reader leaves, only to run into Oralech on his way to confront the False Nightwings

verbal geyser
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that would be such a twist - Oralech shows up and says, "so I see my ex kicked you out - WELL THEY'RE ALL FAKES ANYWAY"

spiral osprey
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i guess i'm kind of weird in that my reaction to volf telling me to get gone was "and go where?" i wasn't even mad i was just puzzled like. are you really gonna consign me to likely death in the downside? you don't seem like the type.

midnight timber
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as a way of not spoiling too much first play through

frank token
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I had the small hope in my heart that True Nightwings mode was an alternate storyline where Oralech found you first instead

vestal bluff
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I actually never had the ‘distrust Volfred’ instinct that some folks are talking about here. Basically immediately after he’s introduced, I had a feeling there was something like the Plan afoot

spiral osprey
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i do think his intro is intentionally shady

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so i'm not too surprised a lot of people didn't trust him

vestal bluff
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If it was, it kinda went over my head

midnight timber
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i could tell he had a plan i was mad he didnt want me to be a part of it lol

vestal bluff
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Yeah

spiral osprey
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one of my favorite kasavin comments is that volfred's first name syllable was removed because it made him sound "too pompous"

frank token
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I think it’s to invoke the feeling, that you’re being brought into something bigger than yourself, and each other

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Since he kinda comes in, and steals the spotlight as the leader initially. A position you had been looked up as, before finding him.

vestal bluff
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I never felt I was the leader. I’d always seen Hedwyn in that role, especially given his decisions to take on Gilman and Pam

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But Volfred definitely asserts his presence quickly

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Ven, what was Volfred’s full name before?

frank token
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I had a paternal outlook to the Triumvirate, actually, strengthened after meeting Volfred, when he tells you, that as long as you’re the Reader, you can’t go back. I had to make sure, my people got out, no matter how this ends up for me. Consequently, I ended up staying at the end. A way of sticking to my original goal and promise to bring them home, despite breaking one in the process.

spiral osprey
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C. Volfred Sandalwood. C for "Cyprus"

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i WOULD make fun of manley for having a "human" first name but, well
humboldt had a lot of plant species

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Quercus humboldtii, commonly known as the Andean oak, Colombian oak or roble, is a species of oak in the beech family found only in Colombia and Panamá. It is named for Alexander von Humboldt. It grows in the mountains with an altitudinal range from 1,000 to 3,200 m. It is ...

frank token
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He has a manley name indeed

vestal bluff
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Deep lore right there

spiral osprey
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(there are two other kinds of trees, a species of penguin, a type of lily, and multiple geographic features ALSO named humboldt. alexander humboldt was quite a dude)

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and then you have the cyprus / cyrus thing which is apparently not intentional but is funny regardless

barren topaz
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humbolt is also a species of squid, which is my main association with the name

spiral osprey
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maybe manley can swim with those roots

sharp willow
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FailerV1Yesterday at 9:25 PM
That would be mega subversive tho. “Yeah, if you want to leave, OK”
YOU DIED

Fun fact:Very early in development when Hedwyn, Rukey, and Jodi found you and asked if you wanted to come along, you could just say "No". If you said "No" they left without you, and the game eventually started over. It wouldn't proceed until you agreed you'd join them. You could decline in an endless loop if you really wanted to. The scene evolved for many reasons, but I thought it was neat!

young folio
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huh!

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it is neat

barren topaz
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but thou must

hard wing
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When are we getting franchised Pyre: The Esports Edition though?

barren topaz
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but seriously I'm just glad the game doesn't actually do that when Volfred tells you to get lost, as that's several rites in and would be a troll move to make the player replay all that

hard wing
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And thus, the Speaker made like a tree.

wide river
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ayyyy i recognise my text formatting when i see it

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fun fact the game actually takes into account which option you picked just after this when volfred goes on to explain what he thinks freedom is - if you picked the "living without fear" option, he's like "yeah as the reader said"

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i'd quote it but i'm on mobile

vital spindle
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You made my day, guys, all of you 😃 read 200+ messages on pyre channel XD
Few words about Russian variant of Vagrant Song: it is good, but, the text is completely about another thing originally. If I got it right, the original song is about lore of the game: about Plurne/etc.
Russian version is about minstrel himself. Or is he singing from the place of another person? <___>
Original fits the minstrel theme much more, imo.

wide river
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well, the original vagrant song had different lyrics

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When I was only, only a boy, I saw my mother cry. The time had come to pay for her sins, the price, my friend, was I. A nest of flowers covers the place, where in the ground I lie. Now I'm a pile of lonely old bones, a thousand years gone by.

vestal bluff
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Tariq had a mum!?

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Guess the Herald from the Stars business was written later on

onyx forum
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its noncanon but i like to imagine how itd fit!!

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love the idea that tariq n celeste are reincarnated kids who were killed unfairly myself

eager hatch
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wow those unused lyrics are really cool

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do we have the second verse

vestal bluff
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The instrumental that goes along with them is really strange too, if you're already used to how Vagrant Song sounds normally

mild falcon
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Wait what if that song is about a different titan

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There's some titan bones lying around

eager hatch
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I don't think it is

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None of the titans have ever killed each other as far as we know

wide river
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there's no second verse

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also the instrumental really is just new union

vestal bluff
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It's hard enough to write one verse when you're a pile o' bones

wide river
eager hatch
vestal bluff
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lol

eager hatch
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anyways I have to go

vestal bluff
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I've seen 'Ursa' all over the place, but have no idea what its meaning is

eager hatch
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see you guys soon

wide river
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@vestal bluff project name for pyre while it was still in development

mild falcon
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Back when every character in pyre was a grizzly bear

onyx forum
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i never heard this arrangement before it goes SO hard oh my god

verbal geyser
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oh man, I didn't know the epic distant wailing came with the prototype track too, nice

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Tariq: croons a bit
Proto-Tariq: howls into the void

onyx forum
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YEAH IVE ONLY HEARD THE BETA W NO BACKGROUND AND THATS SUPER GOOD TOO BUT

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THIS IS A STEP BEYOND!!!!! HE DROPS THE BEAT

wide river
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pfft, i was looking in my audio folder for something and. you definitely cant tell that i have a favourite right????

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definitely not obvious at all.

mild falcon
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Must be aj, you've got 3 folders for him

wide river
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listen. would you like to know how many files are in those folders

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the overmap one is the smallest with only 36 files

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the archjustice folder contains 2,252 files, and the "match" one contains 6,892

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he's a chatty boy

mild falcon
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Never shuts up it seems

young folio
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I still love that hedwyn has a lil heart next to his name

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That’s adorable

verbal geyser
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exactly my feelings about Hedwyn too

frank token
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Falcon Ron

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Your favorite cannot be anyone but Falcon Ron

eager hatch
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I'm back now

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I'm listening to this unused song

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This is pretty cool, but I can see why it wasn't used in the final version of the game

young folio
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"tariq play us a nice song!"
tariq starts playing that version vagrant song and everyones enjoying the music
except for the reader and volfred, who can make out the words and are horrified

eager hatch
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amazing

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also my friend was playing pyre last night and she guessed that sandra had only been in exile for a year

young folio
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oh wow

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i guessed a thousand years from the beginning because i figured it was much less but still a long time, and she would laugh at me

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but she was like "yeah about that" and i was like oh

eager hatch
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I guessed a hundred

vestal bluff
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I think I guessed 10 the first time

mild falcon
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Does tariq even know what he's saying?

eager hatch
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I would assume so

vestal bluff
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Tariq personally knew the Scribes, so I reckon yes

eager hatch
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Considering that he's hinted at being the literal personification of the moon

young folio
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i think that since he and celeste sing in english

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they know it

vestal bluff
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The Moon can't read though

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But yeah, alma's got it

young folio
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i dont remember if its canon that they can read, but they know how to speak it at least

vestal bluff
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I mean, they can write songs

mild falcon
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Does tariq ever speak English to volfred?

vestal bluff
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A good one for Sparrow

young folio
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i think the only instance of spoken english in the game is volfreds line to the reader

mild falcon
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Volf has a couple lines to reader, right?

young folio
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could be they speak english sometimes, but not in the on screen convos

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as far as i can remember, the only lines are "i too can read my kin, forbidden though the words may be"

eager hatch
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yeah, those were the words

young folio
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or my boy/my girl, depending on your gender

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i dont recall any other ones

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it makes sense to me too, since having volf speak english to the reader all the time would take away from how jarring and special that moment is

vestal bluff
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It's a fantastic moment, and really catches you off guard

young folio
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yeah!!

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i stayed up all night to play the game when it came out so i was a bit tired, and i think i was like "wait.... were they speaking english the whole time? am i imagining this?"

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its amazing

mild falcon
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So when tariq says "the moon began to cry" he's actually opening up about his own feelings and admitting emotional vulnerability

young folio
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"it was raining but also im sad as hell"

vestal bluff
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"Yeah, the Underking just killed a Titan, but ngl this rain is pretty depressing"

mild falcon
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Maybe tariq and plurnes were friends

wide river
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actually, there's two lines of english from volfred

young folio
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oh?

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i dont remember the other one rn

wide river
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i'm looking for the file now bc i like it

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there it is

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it's when/if you liberate him

vestal bluff
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The suspense

wide river
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+ Then, he reaches out to you, alone.
< Reader! Until we stand again together. >
+ With that, Volfred Sandalwood vanishes into the Shimmer-Pool. He calls out from within, as his return journey begins.
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my apologies for not having memorised which one of 373 voice files corresponded to the line i was looking for ;P

vestal bluff
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I’d forgotten about this completely

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Only ever liberated him once though

young folio
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yeah same

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on my first playthrough

mild falcon
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But he never speaks English with tariq right?

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Or is said to

eager hatch
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I don't think so

heavy hill
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I never liberated him so I never heard that

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spooky

onyx forum
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i mean he and tariq both speak emglish so i assume they CAN lol (when they wanna gossip abt everyone but reader)

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but not onscreen jfjgnv

frank token
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I wanted more creepy english lines from Volfred

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his voice is godlike

hard wing
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I wanted more voice lines from

vestal bluff
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A singular Tariq English line would’ve been pretty cool too

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Although that may be deflating the specialness of it

hard wing
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Tizo.

vestal bluff
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...but it’s the same voice pitch as Ignarius

onyx forum
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we have lots of tariq english lines in vagrant song and in the flame and never to return and bound together :'')

vestal bluff
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The best kind of correct

hard wing
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Recently I've had to put the Tizo plush away. Because my boy kitten is getting to the time of his life where he wants to pee on things and his appointment isn't until later this week.

frank token
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At least it isn’t a fish.

onyx forum
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😔 watch out for pee'zo

hard wing
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That's what I'm trying to avoid. I need to buy shelving so I can keep stuff out of paw's reach.

nova light
eager hatch
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but if it's out of paw's reach then I can't get it either

gloomy owl
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Oh goodness. I think I found the best multiplayer setup.
Two imps. Both have Titan's rage.
The first one has Thorned Knot, and literally takes out 2/3 of the stage with its implosion.
The second one has Vengeful Vow for extra explosions.
https://media.giphy.com/media/oe33xf3B50fsc/giphy.gif

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Pamitha with literally anything for a third, and you have yourself a match where your opponent is not allowed to have fun. They have to stay banished forever.

mild falcon
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maybe pamitha with feather even

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so you can score w her and keep her

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tho scoring with imps isn't too hard even when they arent built for it

gloomy owl
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Honestly, I was just coming up with the most kill-happy builds that I could.
Maybe Sunken Shadow to make them extra banished.

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Either way, thank SG for making the amazing nuclear Ti'zo that is Titan's Rage and Thorned Knot.

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Skrii-haa! - sounds heard seconds before absolute disaster.

mild falcon
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ooh, gilman could be good for this sort of kill all strat

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wyrm brings the imps back

gloomy owl
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Oh lord.

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YES

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Combined with the lower respawn time on the imps, you have a constant barrage of imp bombs.

mild falcon
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it'd be a bit harder to score, but a lot more frustrating to play against

gloomy owl
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I'm just picturing it like a swarm of explosive kuriboh. What an amazing mental image.

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This is amazing. I need to try this sometime.

mild falcon
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imagine a mirror match with this team...

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does vengeful vow activate off another imp's vengeful vow?

gloomy owl
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I think so, yeah. It's any banishment, after all.

mild falcon
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as soon as any imp dies every character dies

gloomy owl
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Hilariously enough, it even procs off your own self-destruct.

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YEP

mild falcon
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that would be hilarious

gloomy owl
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Hmm... time to try this out. Androbeles, forgive me for the sin I am about to unleash upon this world.

mild falcon
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it is the grace of the scribes that prevents us from reaching the 3 imp team

gloomy owl
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I mean, I could totally see Ha'ub being down with that. This is the same imp that took down a titan by going into its mouth and choking it as it was being eaten.

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But yeah, I could see others not liking that. Mostly Triesta. Dang mercy-lover.

mild falcon
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probably was a contentious debate

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Surprised 3cur got in, that's a wacky team to play