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cloud quartz
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Wish i could sleep like that

mild falcon
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How buried was the wagon anyway. Maybe the wheels were a bit sunken into the dirt and it took them a good half hour to pull it out

astral surge
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Hmm

vestal bluff
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Nah, the wagon was buried and years later Tariq moved there for the cheap rent

prime shell
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It’s free real estate

heavy hill
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I imagine the extent of burying was Volfred tossing a few cups of dirt on it before throwing a tarp over it and calling it a day

onyx forum
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volfreds got his rootst deep in the ground always i think he kicked it like ten feet under and tariq happened to be napping at the time

wide river
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tariq is relatable because i, too, would leap at the opportunity to be buried underground if it meant getting to nap for like ten years

onyx forum
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someone in new nws: gn tariq!
tariq: oh no thanks i already did that

heavy hill
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maybe he just wandered around and then fell asleep in there, tried to run away but had to go along with his story of "I guide the nightwings" after they caught him

vestal bluff
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*After Tizo caught him

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The real hero here

onyx forum
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oralech: one time i took a 30 second depression nap in a fire
tariq: one time i took a ten year nap underground
oralech: you mean like death???

vestal bluff
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"I got better"

astral surge
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So does (f)ae just paint herself or is she tattooed

spiral osprey
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i've seen both interpretations! i think i've also seen some people say they could be ribbons, some of them at least

onyx forum
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love the idea of tattooed fae myself but yea anything goes!!!

mild falcon
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maybe her skin just does that

spiral osprey
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it's camouflage like peeta from hunger games and his cake decorating skills and before you say anything that's like, the only thing i know about hunger games please nobody engage me on this topic

onyx forum
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she bakes caekes

mild falcon
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what kind of pastry does fae make

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moon pies

onyx forum
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eeeeeyyyy

mild falcon
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what kind of side does almer prepare for a potluck?

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hush puppies

onyx forum
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eeeyyyyy!!!!

sharp willow
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So... how do I start a Parsec game?

spiral osprey
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oh let me pull it up

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Start up Pyre and Parsec

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Create a party for however many players you want and name it, etc

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Make sure Pyre is in the "allowed apps" section haha

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Then other players can connect to your party

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You may have to go into your settings and enable hosting first

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You can control which device players can use with the left sidebar in the party, there are icons for controller and keyboard so, if you wanted to play with one other person for example, you could give them keyboard control only while you keep controller control

sharp willow
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Cool! Dinner... then I think Pyre

vestal bluff
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If you want me to host, just @ me!

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I've got a bit of experience in this

spiral osprey
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I wish I could join y'all but I'm at work, don't have my controller and don't know the keyboard controls well ^^;

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(those last two are bigger problems than the first one)

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i could play really really poorly 😂

vestal bluff
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Any Pyre is good Pyre as far as I'm concerned!

sharp willow
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whistles a lonesome tune

spiral osprey
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i'm here but i'm not sure my internet will support much 😂

vestal bluff
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Are you in NOrth America?

spiral osprey
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nnnnope lol

vestal bluff
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Hang on Morgan, your party s full right now

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Ven's joined you I think

sharp willow
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Ven joined!

mild falcon
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have fun!

spiral osprey
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though my screen hasn't changed...

sharp willow
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why was my load screen dialog messed up lol. Somebody should bug that

vestal bluff
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Beware of lag if you're going intercontnental

sharp willow
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oh! I just started the Rite

spiral osprey
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oh! got it

mild falcon
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tbh morgan you might want someone to host you if you want to get the real parsec experience™

sharp willow
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I can be hosted!

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It seemed too slow with Ven, but the party is still up if somebody else wants to give it a shot

vestal bluff
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Did something go wrong?

sharp willow
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I don't seem to be able to click?

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Or use my controller any more

vestal bluff
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Try now

sharp willow
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hmmm still nothing

vestal bluff
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Still nothing?

sharp willow
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Now I can

vestal bluff
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Oh! Nice

sharp willow
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I forgot masteries... awesome

vestal bluff
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Haha

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No sweat

sharp willow
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Oops! Are we both controlling P1?

vestal bluff
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You should use your controller

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That should control P2

sharp willow
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I am 😦

vestal bluff
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Hmm!?

spiral osprey
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✨ technology! ✨

sharp willow
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Well... let's play with each other's picks!

vestal bluff
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I’d unplugged my controller, but it didn’t register that

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Alright then!

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Bizarre

sharp willow
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Now I am back to P2 haha!

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That was rather laggy though

vestal bluff
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Strange. Perhaps the reset will fix it

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!?

sharp willow
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it's okay

vestal bluff
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How’s the latency?

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Any control issues?

sharp willow
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Latency was not great... I'm at home, which probably explains it

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I had to learn to predict what you were doing haha

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All of my jumps were made like before you started sprinting!

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It's ALMOST there

vestal bluff
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It’s a pretty simple plan I’ve got 😎

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Another round?

sharp willow
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sure!

vestal bluff
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Talismans this time? Or nah?

sharp willow
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Let's do default masteries?

vestal bluff
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Sure

sharp willow
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So I stop forgetting

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to pick haha

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gg

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!!!

vestal bluff
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Still not great latency?

sharp willow
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not so much

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Bring your A game to PAX!!!

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We could try swapping hosts?

vestal bluff
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Sounds good

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And I’d love to! PAX is pretty far away from me though

sharp willow
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So I should disconnect my controller before I launch the game?

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I want to mirror your setup!

vestal bluff
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I don’t think that’s needed. Problem was, I disconnected mine, which it had detected as Player 2. Then I plugged it back in, while the game was running

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Weird situation

sharp willow
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ahha!

vestal bluff
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The screen keeps telling me I don’t have permission to view the app
Never mind, not an issue

spiral osprey
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If anyone in east or southeast Asia wants to try Parsec, I could give hosting another shot sometime! just @ me 😃

wind cedar
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how useful do people find study in private to be, in-game, as opposed to just foraging for stardust or tutoring a character?

onyx forum
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good for stats boosting, and if you max it out theres a great scene!

mild falcon
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study in private seems better than tutoring, except for when you're less than 1000 away from levelup and you really want to make a character better

vestal bluff
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Generally I try to tutor instead of study if the character is less than ~1600 away from level up. Means you can put them in for the next rite, and if you win, they level up

onyx forum
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oh wow thats good to know! never paid attention to the numbers before!

vestal bluff
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Well, I always have a Titan Star or six engaged too

vestal bluff
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@spiral osprey I'm in North America, but I'll take a shot at it if you want

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What's your upload speed?

spiral osprey
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Oh, I have no clue haha
Sorry, I'm at work right now...it's late morning over here

vestal bluff
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Oh, right.
Work sucks

onyx forum
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hey im setting up parsec

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ok i cant play rn but parsec is ready for the future 😤

lavish ridge
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i can't play today but i'd love to play with people over the weekend 👀

vestal bluff
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I've got a wide-open weekend coming up. Anyone in North America looking for matches, I can host y'all 🙃

onyx forum
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are you free sunday? i might be able to then!!

lavish ridge
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👀

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i believe i am too!!

onyx forum
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ooooo nice

mortal hemlock
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I can as well

stoic junco
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Not tonight.

olive scroll
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Copy-pasting something I posted on the steam discussions a while back:

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The first rule of Rite Club is: You do not talk about Rite Club
The second rule is: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT RITE CLUB
The third rule is: Someone yells stop, taps out, or loses their pyre the Rite is over
The fourth rule: Only two guys move in a Rite
The fifth rule: Only one Rite at a time
The sixth rule: Masks and Ramients
The seventh rule: Rites will go on as long as they have to
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time in a Rite, you have to spend a minute before it starts walking the Reader through a tutorial so they know what you can do.

mortal hemlock
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excellent

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how does one join rite club

plain escarp
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hey so

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is this the place I can talk to Supergiant

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and I can gush about how much I love their games?

mild falcon
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no you gotta criticize it and point out all the flaws

edgy kraken
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The biggest flaw is the games end and release me from it's grasp

plain escarp
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yeah cause like

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i feel writing a personal thank you to the devs and everyone at the company

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fr

mild falcon
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aw man, what if supergiant made a pyre-style roguelike

plain escarp
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dunno

mild falcon
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they would have our souls forever

plain escarp
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js

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i felt legitimately bad that I didn't know pyre came out

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in 2017

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cause i played it a few months ago

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and haven't been the same since.

vestal bluff
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What was your favourite part?

barren topaz
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I didn't get into pyre until only a few months before its one year anniversary. I was surprised to find there was still a following for it

vestal bluff
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Yeah, same here. What a fantastic game.

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It definitely leaves a lasting impression

spiral osprey
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@urban nexus I actually did write SGG a thank you note way back in like 2014 when I first played Transistor! it was the first of their games I played and it changed my whole view of video games tbqh. I think they'd appreciate a nice note. You can find their email on their website. 😃

stoic junco
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Signing under both of your statements. Despite me playing The Sexy Brutale a couple of months before Pyre and having been a long-time fan of rebooted XCOM series, I can't shake off Pyre's influence. I keep returning to it from time to time.

Not many things in gaming can make me shed a tear. But Bound Together, whenever it is at the end of a campaign, is one of those things.

stoic junco
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Huh. In the subtitles folder in Pyre I found mentions of Otherworld... Was this the name of Downside while Pyre was in development?

spiral osprey
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Yep, seems to be!

stoic junco
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Wow, that's a lot of content.

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"Evocative of the stories of the Six Scribes, would you not agree?"? What?

spiral osprey
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mhm! the game went through lots of changes

stoic junco
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This is a trove of cut content!

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And for some reason, all of it was translated into other languages.

spiral osprey
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I imagine they just sent the files they had and said to translate everything

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it would be more difficult to try to sort through what was new and what was old

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for people not in the know

stoic junco
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"'Tis but a single battle in a long, long war."

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"If only Gol Golathanian showed such courage when the Ruined Legion crumbled all around him!"

spiral osprey
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I turned some very early name and backstory generator arrays in the code into a working generator

stoic junco
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Wow

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How much subtitles are there?

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Holy cow!

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As part of the Commonwealth's history:
"Beware the literate! The education they profess is from the School of Sin! The College of Corruption! The University of Unrest, the Academy of Anarchy!"

spiral osprey
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the Nightwings used to be headquartered in Shivport

stoic junco
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At that point in development, there are Eight Scribes. They are present in some sentences down.

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You've opened the file?

spiral osprey
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hmm? i've opened most of the files, you've gotta be specific 😂

stoic junco
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Justice.csv

spiral osprey
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oh, yeah! i've opened that, though I haven't flipped through the whole file

stoic junco
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Oooh

spiral osprey
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I only used the .csv's to match up to voice lines

stoic junco
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There are remarks there.

spiral osprey
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which my comp sci friend was so very kind to throw together something to match all the voice lines to their accompanying subtitles

stoic junco
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At "Justice_219" (Reader!) there is a comment about how it should have been menacing, but what was there was good.

spiral osprey
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yeah gkjdgfd i remember seeing that

stoic junco
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Huh.

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Some are labeled "Unused", while others are "Integrated". Would be obvious, if "Otherworld" lines weren't integrated...

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Hmm...

stoic junco
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Huh. File with animations for the Celestial Orb falling is called 'UrsaFx'.

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And help text contains unused feature of having to get to the Rites in a set amount of time. "The next Rite commences in" and "more day(s)" confirm that one.

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There was meant to be a fuel system as well. And more map interaction in general.

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Guess it was dropped in favour of good story, which is a plus.

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And yeah, there was meant to be a village called Shivport.

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That was still at the time when the Downside was meant to be called Otherworld.

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Also, content stores a Weapons folder with "Weapons", "UrsaWeapons" and "EnemyWeapons"

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So many ideas were tossed around here...

oblique wren
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Ursa seems to have been the working title for the game

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There’s a lot of unused music too

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There’s two early versions of Never to Return, what seems like an early version of Bound Together, and a variation of New Union with lyrics.

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The beta version of Bound Together has lyrical stems for each ingame race, male and female, and different origin stories.

onyx forum
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ah i thought that was beta mourning song 🤔

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mourning song was cut down by a lot too... it feels to me like the final version is them squishing something in like listen we just worked too hard on this tune!! hdmfkcj

oblique wren
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Honestly it could be both, it seems like the melody became Mourning Song and the idea of reactive lyrics became Bound Together

onyx forum
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tru!!

oblique wren
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Beta Never to Return was really cool too

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It has a longer intro, and it sounds a lot like a Catholic hymn in the beginning

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The lyrics are a bit darker, too

onyx forum
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have u heard...beta vagrant song

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:3

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its.. .dark

oblique wren
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Oh yeah

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Especially the version with all the distortion

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Maybe Pyre was conceived as a much darker fantasy than we ended up getting

onyx forum
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wait what?

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Distortion

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I mean the echo one w no instrumental

oblique wren
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There’s two versions of beta vagrant song/new union, one has a ton of effects and the other is more clean

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That might be the one I meant

onyx forum
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ohhhh ok!

oblique wren
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There’s also an instrumental with effects and one without

onyx forum
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hey anyone wana parsec pyre

vestal bluff
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Yes

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Give me like ~20 mins?

onyx forum
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ok sure!

heavy hill
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there's a lot of weird stuff like the Rites used to be themed around seasons

spiral osprey
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They weren't themed around seasons, idt, they were arranged in seasons, the way a lot of sports are

heavy hill
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I don't recall anything from the last time I looked around the pyre files very well, I haven't looked recently

spiral osprey
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@stoic junco Yeah, the calendar as a whole is a vestigial remnant of one of the earlier builds of Pyre. Greg worked it back in through Volfred's planner, but unlike before, it has little effect on the game or gameplay, and following it closely, you realize that the "many moons pass" transition actually covers only a few "moons" - between 30 and 60 days

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The time span of the game is randomized but never actually covers more than ~7 months

vestal bluff
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Must be a ton of blood moons in the Downside

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Book says that Liberation Rites take place beneath a blooded moon

stoic junco
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Yeah... But if the orbit of the moon is correct, any fading moon can be bloody. Our Moon is slightly tilted from the axis connecting Sun and Earth, which is why moon eclipses are rare.

vestal bluff
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If the earth is flat, how does the moon orbit it?

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Does that make more common or rare blood moons?

onyx forum
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i feel like ive seen this pic before 🤔 @wide river is it yours?

barren topaz
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it's mine

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I posted it in here a little while back

onyx forum
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OH sorry

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its real good!!

barren topaz
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Thanks!

mild falcon
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who built the statues at fall of soliam?

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the really big ones that move at the top, but also the smaller ones you find on the way up

onyx forum
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jen zee

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lol

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HMMMM seriously tho id say it was magic

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and probably soliams magic bc hes coming from the grandest background!

cloud quartz
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Celeste built them

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Maybe

onyx forum
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oooo....an artist....

mild falcon
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celeste, w/hammer and chisel, making underking statue: oh, worm?

barren topaz
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The scribes probably had followers while they were still alive, I like to think maybe they built it

cloud quartz
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^

onyx forum
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ooooh that would be interesting!!

mild falcon
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maybe celeste n tariq WERE scribe followers

onyx forum
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i think of like...the Structure of the rites as scribe made and untouched, but part of the fall of soliam itself being like....created by others you dobt even hear about ..... feels right thematically tbh

vestal bluff
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Definitely the original triumvirates are a possibility

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Those who were hand-picked by the Scribes while they lived

mild falcon
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nightwings of the past, divinely inspired, stop to sculpt some statues

heavy hill
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remember when the first pyre trailer came out and nobody knew rukey was a dog
so the top comment was something about a dragon person

vestal bluff
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Perhaps each Triumvirate sculpted its founder as a tribute of sorts?

mild falcon
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id like to see a wyrm try to sculpt anything

vestal bluff
heavy hill
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people talk about how harps don't have hands but they don't have any limbs

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how do they fight in wars

vestal bluff
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REALLY dextrous tails

cloud quartz
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Dont they have legs????

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?????

vestal bluff
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Nope, they're sea serpents

mild falcon
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i mean it's not like commonwealth has guns, the harps could just claw them to death and if things get tough, fly away

vestal bluff
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They slither and everything

heavy hill
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yeah how do the wyrms function as a society

spiral osprey
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@mild falcon the temple at the shimmerpool was built by pilgrims and devotees of the scribes over a long long time; p sure volfred says smthn about it at some point

mild falcon
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do worms even need society? could just be hunter gatherers

vestal bluff
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They have an Underking and nobility and stuff

spiral osprey
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They seem to have society

cloud quartz
vestal bluff
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And at least enough tech knowledge to make metal helmets and stuff

spiral osprey
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A huge number of them are in indentured servitude to the commonwealth

barren topaz
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Wyrm society just sounds like a giant military

heavy hill
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How do they hunt and gather

cloud quartz
spiral osprey
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Underwater??

heavy hill
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oh right they live underwater

onyx forum
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wyrm culture in terms of myths and war songs must b amazing

spiral osprey
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They function like any other amphibious creature lol

heavy hill
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I retract that argument

cloud quartz
mild falcon
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could just be that wyrms hunt and gather, and gifts from commonwealth allow them to eat ships or whatever they do

heavy hill
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but still how do they fight for the commonwealth against the harps, it's like that scene from Jurassic World where the pterodactyls start diving to grab the humans

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wyrms would be getting massacred

mild falcon
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wyrms as bait, maybe?

onyx forum
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well, yeah they are getting massacred :((

vestal bluff
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They can hold stuff with their tails. Gilman is a fencer

mild falcon
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trick the birds into getting low enough, and then throw a net

spiral osprey
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They have their own internal clans and civil wars that seem to be constantly going on, and then as an escape from that, they can fight for the Commonwealth and almost definitely die
Yeah the wyrms fight but they don't seem to fight well; they're cannon fodder

vestal bluff
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At least, maybe above water they don't fight well

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There's a ton of stories about the Underking slaying fools

spiral osprey
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Could also be they're more formidable when they're fighting each other and no hands are involved haha

onyx forum
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oooh yesss, fall in the water and a wyrm will kill ya

vestal bluff
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And Titans

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Ven, that's definitely true

spiral osprey
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Maybe they're venomous, that would be fun

mild falcon
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maybe the commonwealth is at war with some other nations, that live an ocean away, and the wyrms keep the opponent's navy from getting too close

spiral osprey
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It sounds like the wyrms are only rly fighting themselves underwater

vestal bluff
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I don't know, their teeth look too human-y to be venomous

heavy hill
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how often do the harps fall though, the Bloodborder is described as where most of the fighting against the harps takes place and it doesn't seem like the commonwealth has anything that would be effective at shooting them down

spiral osprey
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Bows and arrows? Also the harps probably swoop to attack

vestal bluff
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If the COmmonwealth can make Blackwagons, they can probs also make bows

onyx forum
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canons possibly

heavy hill
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true

vestal bluff
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100% cannon, 0% canon

onyx forum
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saps probably are getting up to guns but not sure about the commonwealth itself

spiral osprey
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I still like the theory that saps traded weapons for sovereignty

onyx forum
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YES

mild falcon
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who's to say saps and commonwealth were ever seperate

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maybe saps, unlike all other fantasy races, are just a fact of life in commonwealth

spiral osprey
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They govern themselves

vestal bluff
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Manley's an ambassador, so they'd have to be separate

spiral osprey
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The Westerly Woods are mentioned as being administratively separate

onyx forum
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listen (gets up on my soapbox) the comonwealth used the literacy ban to cut wyrms off from their rich culture leaving them feeling alone and rootless and easier used by comonwealth armies

spiral osprey
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Here's a question tho, how would the CW enforce an underwater literacy ban

vestal bluff
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Wyrm enforcers?

mild falcon
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wyrms seem perfectly willing to betray their own kind

spiral osprey
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They'd probably have to pay a whole clan to- yeah

onyx forum
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underwater library underwater book he sleeps in the sea in an underwater nook-
yea its prob wyrms ratting each other out

vestal bluff
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I'd imagine Deluge-y sorts would take to narcing for Sol

mild falcon
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harpies, not subject to literacy bans, spend a lot of their free time reading

onyx forum
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sol and battlefield perks

heavy hill
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Wyrms seem like they don't actually have a super-structured government, they seem perfectly eager to swap sides if they see the other side as superior

spiral osprey
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I think they have loyalty and will follow their leader

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Deluge still has followers after all

onyx forum
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....its us

vestal bluff
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Wyrms do have a very cherished code of honour and duty though

onyx forum
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were deluges folowers

spiral osprey
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And his lead was respected even up to him fleeing the battlefield

vestal bluff
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Swapping sides would be anithetical to that

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Gilman only did it because he thought he had no honour left to lose

onyx forum
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a whole clan would prob swap sides in terms of alignment

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but not individuals

heavy hill
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ah yeah you're right

spiral osprey
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If a leader was bought by the CW though, the followers would, well, follow

onyx forum
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yeah!

mild falcon
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the harpies are only evenly matched with commonwealth because art of war is required reading in harpy army

vestal bluff
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Reckon that's what they're fighting over? Legal reading?

mild falcon
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i was gonna say that but someone with lore would shoot me down

vestal bluff
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They're takin' our books sisters! Get them!

spiral osprey
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The harps are evenly matched because the CW probably doesn't kill that many of them at a time haha
We don't know population numbers but it sure seems like the fight against the harps is one of centuries-long attrition against what amounts to a guerilla force with superior tactics

onyx forum
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hmmmmstve theres probably a lot of accidental fire from new allies at wyrm schools that trade sides every other day

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like "oops we thought he was still with them"

mild falcon
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real reason for bird and person war: "boo hoo waa waa im jealous i wish i could fly"

spiral osprey
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Yeah actually

onyx forum
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HDNFMGN yes.

timid robin
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yeh

vestal bluff
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I do wish I could fly
But I wouldn't kill those who could over it

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I mean, I have no innate inclination to murder either Harps or pilots

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But that's just me maybe

timid robin
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well, you don't start off with murder

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it starts with a lil "aw, i wish i could do that"

mild falcon
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imagine if your neighbor every day would confront you like: "hey failer. how's it feel. you gotta feed your horse. you gotta wait in traffic. hmm sucks to be you. later sucker" and then flap flap flap away

vestal bluff
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Maybe that would give me a bit of gilmanrage

onyx forum
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then they get stuck in air trafic w the rest of the harps

mild falcon
#

air traffic isn't that big a deal tho

#

just go higher or lower

vestal bluff
#

YOu ever try and pass someone in a hallway but you both want to go the same direction?

onyx forum
#

tbh it may have started w harps refusing to ally with CW in a war with a completely diff nation

timid robin
#

you mostly got two dimensions in a hallway

#

in the sky it's different

vestal bluff
#

Maybe

#

It's probs happened tho

timid robin
#

yeh

onyx forum
#

the commonweath cant be the only country around....theyre like that post abt everyone else in the un looking at the country from the hunger games like "UHM"

vestal bluff
#

Flying is faster than walking, much less time to react

timid robin
#

can react pretty quick when you're the vehicle

#

also, look where you're flying and stuff

cloud quartz
mild falcon
#

nah it's gotta be like, the commonwealth is in the same universe as like 4 or 5 different dystopias

#

commonwealth is oceania from 1984

onyx forum
#

i think a lot about like....ppl from other countries tryin to sneak in literature

vestal bluff
#

Their neighbors on the other side are getting taken over by the Process

onyx forum
#

SEVERE border checks of course, extreme limits on what u can take in or out

mild falcon
#

a whole chunk of the planet is missing, and there's a bunch of floating islands everywhere

onyx forum
#

restrictions on cw citizens leaving bc they may bump into literature, the passport process is grueling

mild falcon
#

how do they do passport checks if they cant read the passport

timid robin
#

maybe citizens keep an item on them

vestal bluff
#

It's all pictograms or something?

timid robin
#

like a city crest

vestal bluff
#

Could be

onyx forum
#

pictograms yes!!

#

and officials with good memories who you pray are not corrupt lol

vestal bluff
#

Passport could just be a world map, with arrows and dates showing where you went and when
Stamped by an official

onyx forum
#

art prob plays a huge role in government.....need clear artists for signs propaganda wanted posters etc etc etc

vestal bluff
#

It would get really messy for those who travel often tho

onyx forum
#

oh for sure

mild falcon
#

probably not many people travel often

onyx forum
#

yeah it wouldnt be a good system at all. Tp discpurage you

mild falcon
#

probably people who left the downside would have a special pass that lets them do whatever

onyx forum
#

and i can imagine a lot of last minute "get off the wagon you werent approved after all"

#

THEYRE IN FIRST CLASS HDNFMFK

vestal bluff
#

Man that would suck

onyx forum
#

gkfkgkg if u have a trip coming up you cant get a haircut or anything so they have nothing to use against u to claim ur someone else

vestal bluff
#

People who left the downside also are 7 feet tall and horned so they can do whatever anyway

onyx forum
#

HDKDKF I MEAN only for a little bit

#

demonization fades faster than it arrives

vestal bluff
#

Oh, right

#

They still call Oralech the Demon Doc even after he doesn't hve horns anymore right?

onyx forum
#

(whivh makes it extra funny that iggy was like i want a bar NOW !!! i will NOT wait a few months till my horns fall off)

spiral osprey
#

The saps seem to be the only state with contiguous borders with the CW...maybe there are other nations beyond the Westerly Woods, or beyond the mountains where the Harps live

vestal bluff
#

Reckon the Southern Bogs are on the southern coast of the continent?

onyx forum
#

maybe!!

spiral osprey
#

It'd be funny if the Saps sat on the equivalent of the silk road

onyx forum
#

ooooooh yes

spiral osprey
#

Getting tech and literature from all over the world beyond the little area where the CW is

#

Because only they can traverse the forest

onyx forum
#

huh......saps with different travel laws, so you can go to westerly woods and apply from there for a better shot

vestal bluff
#

"Why, these woods would strangle you" etc

#

Manley's got it figured out

spiral osprey
#

They're Full Of Grandparents

onyx forum
#

reach in TO ypur local wood amd you may find a grand and ma!!!

spiral osprey
#

"my ancestors going back ten thousand years will never let anyone with ill intent pass"

#

and god damn has it worked lol

#

The westerly woods used to be a lot smaller, back in the day...

onyx forum
#

human westerly woods tourists are obnoxious so the big forests say keep out

#

dont want ur litter on the floor

vestal bluff
#

No doubt

#

SO, when Saps die, they go tree-ish?

spiral osprey
#

It's a headcanon :')

onyx forum
#

humans go to a starbranch and complain that the floor is dirty
i think so!

vestal bluff
#

It's good

spiral osprey
#

Don't take it too seriously but it's fun

vestal bluff
#

I like it. Evokes the Ents in a good way

spiral osprey
#

The other fun sap theory is that they were hunter-gatherers initially gjfkgk
ambush predators...

onyx forum
#

YES

#

FAVE

vestal bluff
#

My fave Tolkien race

spiral osprey
#

"just gonna rest under this nice tree here"

onyx forum
#

not for long!

vestal bluff
#

That's neat. Like spiders, in a way

onyx forum
#

you can sleep under a sap......once

#

not modern saps lol but back in the day

spiral osprey
#

I think of em like one of those ocean species that blends in so well you never see them and/or that dig under the sand and then lunge out haha

onyx forum
#

YES

#

and then they got KNIVES
and FIRE

#

your grandparents had to worry about being grabbed by trees but we have to look out for trees with A KNIFE

#

(mid sap evolution quotes)

mild falcon
#

Saps nowadays wear makeup so they can't be mistaken for trees. Explains volfred's lipstick

onyx forum
#

clothes too!

heavy hill
#

can all saps manipulate trees like manley did, or is that just a glade of lu thing

onyx forum
#

i dont think saps have, you know, anything they need to cover lol
purely for presentation etc

vestal bluff
#

Just the Glade of Lu

#

It happens even without Manley there

onyx forum
#

tbh idt manley manipulated it i think he noticed it moving and acted like he did sonething

vestal bluff
#

That sounds like him

spiral osprey
#

Sap fashion is completely for showing off and I love it

onyx forum
#

humans are constantly asking saps 2 design clothes for sure

mild falcon
#

Volfred is so close with bertrude because she has the best makeup in the downside

onyx forum
#

fancy balls? You can tell the real rich folks by sap designers

#

YES

spiral osprey
#

gjfjfjg sap designers love humans for their silly legs
pants...so quaint

onyx forum
#

YES

#

lu sclorian liked pants and every sap who does rites suffers for ir

#

saps split their roots n stuff them in the raiments and grumble about lu thinking pants looked sleek. just wear robes lu

mild falcon
#

You can tell from Manley that natural sap lip color is light tinge of green, so volfred's bright glossy lime has got to be his choice

onyx forum
#

yes!!!

#

sap makeup is prob very rough on human skin

#

all sap skincare is tbh. you cant share or youll rub your face off cause its made for bark

vestal bluff
#

What's Volfred's barkcare regimen?

onyx forum
#

12 step for sure

#

if not more

#

even his like twig beard...pruned and sanded daily

mild falcon
#

Looking at manley image... does he paint his teeth yellow to look more like commonwealth administration?

onyx forum
#

possibly!

#

also the wig

spiral osprey
#

Tbh? Probably.

#

Manley is a Humaboo
(for real tho he is trying to fit in, his bark also looks way smoother than volf's, tho maybe that's just bc he's a dandy)

onyx forum
#

saps with dentures and false eyelashes to be humanlike

spiral osprey
#

horrifying

onyx forum
#

OH DEF

mild falcon
#

Manley's definitely using human fashions, while volfred flaunts his differences

onyx forum
#

mmhm!!!!

vestal bluff
#

Sad we never see the non-Nightwings in their normal clothes

#

Instead f just their raiments

onyx forum
#

they take exactly the same time in beauty prep but would die if they realized

spiral osprey
#

Gotta save on that art budget...

onyx forum
#

gotta save JENS HANDS

spiral osprey
#

Gjfkfg Manley wears pants out of PREFERENCE

vestal bluff
#

Jen
Gib fashionable Manley plz

spiral osprey
#

it's weird nobody gets it, they're just like "this is what living with humans does to you"

#

if a cur wore pants would he wear them like THIS or like THIS

onyx forum
#

lu: hey we should try pants!
jomuer: uh did you say pass?

spiral osprey
#

....are humans the only pants-wearing species within the CW (so not counting harps)

onyx forum
#

yeah

vestal bluff
#

Must be

onyx forum
#

wyrms can try!!

vestal bluff
#

Not counting Manley ofc

mild falcon
#

I feel like wyrms would try

onyx forum
#

wyrms have skirts

mild falcon
#

Maybe crones?

onyx forum
#

tubes

spiral osprey
#

i agree with both of you wyrms would absolutely try

#

Crones know better gjfkgkh

mild falcon
#

Imagine bertrude in skinny jeans

spiral osprey
#

With What Legs

vestal bluff
#

Skinny jean*

onyx forum
#

wyrm in a tube: this is a pencil skirt :3
cw officials: PENCIL?????? Exile them

vestal bluff
#

It's her whole torso

onyx forum
#

bertrude in skinny tube

mild falcon
#

Are crones just a big pile of intestines with a head?

spiral osprey
#

They have...tails..

onyx forum
#

THEYRE SNAKES

vestal bluff
#

No!?!?!?

spiral osprey
#

They're like big slugs

barren topaz
#

Bertrude could make anything a Look

vestal bluff
#

They're related distantly to Wyrms
Wyrms are more sea-serpenty, but both are scaled

onyx forum
#

and all the headsnakes prob have hearts/lungs/etc in tiny

spiral osprey
#

ghdjgkgk

#

are they actually attached to her or do they just live with her

onyx forum
#

i think attatched!
crone surgeons....

spiral osprey
#

gjdjfkg

vestal bluff
#

They're symbiotic
Like remoras on sharks

onyx forum
#

we gotta operate on five of these

mild falcon
#

Bertrude with tiny pants on head, the headsnakes fill out the legs

vestal bluff
#

Each headsnake has its own tube-jean

onyx forum
#

i think if a headsnake dies it prob wouldnt harm the main body that much tho

#

OH OF COURSE..and its own lipstixk

vestal bluff
#

Sir Gilman has his breastplate and helmet when not in raiments

spiral osprey
#

i feel like since they slither it would be counterproductive to wrap their whole bodies in anything, it would make it hard to move and the material would just get dirty and damaged

onyx forum
#

theyre snaked

spiral osprey
#

Unless it's magical raiments ofc

vestal bluff
#

Yeah, they go with the centaur-style of human-type top and nothinh below

spiral osprey
#

Tbh bertie seems like she just has a kinda shawl goin

mild falcon
#

Ok on subject of crones, what's the deal with their ghost horns

spiral osprey
#

And that's abt it

vestal bluff
#

Seems like it

spiral osprey
#

~magic~

onyx forum
#

tbh tbh tbh only humans and possibly curs prob have nudity taboos like. wyrms? crones? saps???

spiral osprey
#

Kasavin said smthn abt the ghost horns

onyx forum
#

kasavib...

#

(griffin mcelroy voice) thanks for kasavibin and keepin it tight!

spiral osprey
#

THANKS I WAS GONNA KEEP TYPING BUT NOW I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING

onyx forum
#

HFJHFGJKGK SORRY

vestal bluff
#

You made Ven edit

#

Feels bad

mild falcon
#

Crones have nudity taboo just to feel superior to wyrms

onyx forum
#

ill put myself in time out

vestal bluff
#

We need some sort of trial to determine when you're worthy enough to return

#

tbh Crones seem like they would be above the need to feel superior to wyrms

#

They know it already

mild falcon
#

very disagree

#

udmildhe to nudist crone: if you're just gonna lie around with no cloak on, you're no better than a big ol wyrm

onyx forum
#

IM AAAAA MY ENTIRE DISCORD JUST BROKE

#

ven you've been avenged

mild falcon
#

their resemblence to wyrms makes them real insecure

spiral osprey
#

a-ven-ged

mild falcon
#

eyy

vestal bluff
#

Yeah, could be

#

Everyone looks down on wyrms

#

Poor ol' wyrms

#

At least they have honour tho. That's what matters in the end

wide river
#

hard not to when they're that small

mild falcon
#

wyrms are the running joke of the commonwealth

onyx forum
#

the justices have thinking about deluge memes

mild falcon
#

every few months someone says "hey, remember sir deluge??" and then they all go into laughing fits for like 15 minutes

onyx forum
#

HDMSMDMG YES

mild falcon
#

one of the justices is a wyrm, and doesn't know if she should be offended

wide river
#

it's fine one of my best friends is a wyrm

onyx forum
#

nervous laughalong
who hasnt had to uncomfortablly laugh at a joke targeted at your group tbh

wide river
#

tru

mild falcon
#

speaking of discrimination: one time a sap does the math to show the income inequality between the fantasy races. he gets hundreds of death threats

onyx forum
#

OH BOY YES

spiral osprey
#

but there's no writing so it's just people sending like, poor children to egg his house

#

or draw graffiti on it

#

or sending drawings of him dead or smthn

wide river
#

oh my god

mild falcon
#

fire has got to have some fairly offensive connotations in certain contexts

wide river
#

imagine opening a letter and it's just a crude scribble of you with arrows sticking out or something

spiral osprey
#

sorry there's a mysterious drumbeat outside, i have to follow it

#

brb

onyx forum
#

omg

#

go fibd the drum

wide river
#

welp we're never going to see ven again

onyx forum
#

ven got pied pipered

mild falcon
#

it's deluge, just drumming away at his bongos

onyx forum
#

with his head and tail

mild falcon
#

bongo cat meme but instead of bongo cat, it's deluge

spiral osprey
#

Found it

#

It's one of my school's taiko clubs

#

I didn't know they had a show today, and so close!

onyx forum
#

ooooooh!!!!

barren topaz
#

what if the meme was more like the nigel thornberry meme, where instead of replacing character's heads with Nigel it's Deluge

onyx forum
#

jdkgkgkgjg rember The Deluge

barren topaz
#

beautiful

vestal bluff
#

Perfection

mild falcon
#

deluge tariq is an inspired choice

onyx forum
#

gregs idea!!!!! let it be known far and wide!!!! it was his idea and brainchild

barren topaz
#

that makes it that much better honestly

onyx forum
#

the deluge meme has reached the very peak!!!

mild falcon
#

greg invented deluge

vestal bluff
#

Isn’t he also the voice of deluge?

onyx forum
#

yes

vestal bluff
#

He lives and breathes Deluge

mild falcon
#

does deluge have greater range of vision than the average wyrm?

onyx forum
#

probably worse lbr

mild falcon
#

does that eye thing just happen to wyrms when they get old?

onyx forum
#

huh maybe

#

unless he was born that way

#

ven and i have a wyrm oc with a monocle and i WILL post him in fanworks

mild falcon
#

eye in or eye out?

onyx forum
#

eye in

mild falcon
#

if deluge wore a monocle, would it just be a contact

onyx forum
#

yes

spiral osprey
#

AHH...SURFSY

onyx forum
#

SURFSY!!!!! 🙌

#

i put him in fanworks....i love sursfy

spiral osprey
#

all of this happened because shelley was a valid last name in the original wyrm name generator

onyx forum
#

and we were talkin abt volfred getting along with wyrms

vestal bluff
#

Hang on
WYRM NAME GENERATOR?

onyx forum
#

YEAAAH

#

i think ven posted it before here?

vestal bluff
#

Don’t think I was here for that

barren topaz
spiral osprey
#

Hahahaha yes, my pride and joy. An ugly mess of javascript

#

(it's actually very well-commented)

onyx forum
#

its amazing

#

Good Old Fredd T. Baker the 10th

#

this guy is definitely a creep i can feel it.

spiral osprey
#

It's a switch statement with like 12 conditions as well as some nested conditions, it was a good time

#

Good old fredd t baker...

onyx forum
#

O. H. Tumblebuck OH.....tumblebuck.....

barren topaz
#

I know sgg said they used to have characters and backstories randomized but I didn't know until now that a lot of that was already built and that's super cool

onyx forum
#

ok last one. the author of harry potter
J. K. Bariding

mild falcon
#

harry potter but with pictograms

onyx forum
#

j k bariding wont stop tweeting that ron weasley was a cur or whatever... by which i mean shes a harp and shes literally tweeting

mild falcon
#

harpy potter

onyx forum
#

HARPY POTTER!!!!!

barren topaz
#

the school in Harpy Potter has 9 houses instead of 4 and it's a mess

vestal bluff
#

One student passes per year

mild falcon
#

You'd have people on talk shows talking about harpy Potter promoting evil magics (because of scribes allusions)

onyx forum
#

ooooh yes

vestal bluff
#

btw I'm back at my computer now, if anyone wants to a few rounds in Parsec?

spiral osprey
#

have I ever tried Parsec with your internet? I know I've mostly concluded that America is just too far away but...I don't want to give up...T^T

vestal bluff
#

Don't think so

#

Wait, you're in Japan right?

#

Still, worth a shot

spiral osprey
#

Yeah...

#

I got my controller plugged in, let's try it

onyx forum
#

good luck ven

#

failer absolutely trampled me earlier hfhjfhj

spiral osprey
#

oh yeah no i'm gonna get my ass kicked but i feel like the lag is gonna do 75% of the work

vestal bluff
#

I'll run in lower resolution, that's supposed to decrease the load. Maybe it'll help?

spiral osprey
#

maybe!

#

lemme know when you've got a party up

vestal bluff
#

Sure
I dont' want to spam up this channel too much. DM?

night locust
#

Do I ask about cosplay in here or in fan works, specifically for Pyre

barren topaz
#

I don't see a problem with asking about that in here

spiral osprey
#

Yeah, go ahead!

night locust
#

I mostly just want to make sure I'll have at least a few other people at PAX East lol

#

I'm planning a super lax pajama Brighton that I saw in a single image and could never find again

#

But it boils down to a crossed out Ti'zo mug and a baggy sweatshirt that says "If you can read this, you're exiled"

#

Also probably Velcro angry eyebrows

barren topaz
#

I'm pretty sure I've seen that fanart

night locust
#

YES

cloud quartz
night locust
#

I forgot about his dumb crown

#

Thing

mild falcon
#

It's a tiara

#

It really is omg

night locust
#

Thanks for finding that, I was definitely jumbling his design up

barren topaz
spiral osprey
stoic junco
#

Finally! Some called it a magical handball! I thought this day would never come!

#

Also, character generator doesn't work on mobile

spiral osprey
#

if your mobile app has an option to forceload the desktop site, it will

#

it breaks because of the way tumblr displays mobile blogs 🤷

#

I could host it somewhere else or post the file here for everyone to just, have, but

stoic junco
#

Got it.

spiral osprey
#

but yeah. open with an internet application instead of tumblr

#

and then go to the settings and find the "view desktop site" or whatever

stoic junco
#

I try. But he always redirects onto app.

spiral osprey
#

it doesn't give you an option?

stoic junco
#

Alright. I'll do it later.

spiral osprey
#

copy the link and paste it into the url bar on the internet app then

stoic junco
#

It gives an option to open in browser, but it always leads again to the option.

#

And browser refuses connection

#

If I try to force load it.

spiral osprey
#

:/ that sucks

stoic junco
#

Welp. Will try after uni.

onyx forum
#

lionheart i have to go to pax east now....i have to.....PAJAMA BRIGHTON YOU GENIUS....

sharp willow
#

Does... anybody want to try Parsec? I'd like to try hosting from the office, but also need to leave soon!

vestal bluff
#

How soon is “soon”?

sharp willow
#

like... in the next 15-20 mins

#

Unless I start playing Parsec and it works well!

vestal bluff
#

I’m more than 15-20 mins away from my computer tho

onyx forum
#

hmmstve if i get parsec on a computer that cannot run pyre do you think it will work

#

like can i cheat the system

#

(obv not hosting)

vestal bluff
#

Yes. Parsec doesn’t need the game on its own system

onyx forum
#

oooooooo INTERESTING, let me try dling parsec!!

sharp willow
#

Up speed here is... 400mbs

#

which seems wrong, but that's what I'm getting reported

vestal bluff
#

????

onyx forum
#

morgan if u can host im downloading parsec rn

vestal bluff
#

Uh, yeah, if that’s real then that’s pretty godly

spiral osprey
#

SGG has the fastest internet in the world

onyx forum
#

super gigabytes games

vestal bluff
#

Faster than a speeding Rukey

sharp willow
#

I uploaded the entire internet

#

From the office

onyx forum
#

ok parsec be instaling

sharp willow
#

nice!

onyx forum
#

🙏 please open, parsec... 🙏

#

(this is a. fairly old computer so complicated apps are always a gamble)

#

yes, im in!!

sharp willow
#

Sweet! I will start the group up soon!

vestal bluff
#

Good luck Kam. Morgan is not to be underestimated

onyx forum
#

OH IM. YOU KNOW. PREDICTING MY LOSS BUT TRYING TO STAY OPTIMISTIC

vestal bluff
#

The will to overcome shall urge you on

cloud quartz
#

prepare to die

#

Good luck!

onyx forum
#

thank uyou ill need it

sharp willow
#

@vestal bluff So lower resolution can help with latency too? I may try to reduce it at the onset just to see how it feels!

vestal bluff
#

It can compensate for a lower upload speed if needed

onyx forum
#

tbh im very curious to see if i can get around the 'freezes at rites' problem on this comp by just. stealing someone else';s computer speed essentially

vestal bluff
#

But if yours is already insane then you don’t need to

#

Kam, yeah that’s basically how it works!

sharp willow
#

I discovered the GPU I dropped in my machine for testing months ago is too old to stream Parsec. I'm going to have to dig up a new one. I'm going to try again Wednesday!

onyx forum
#

we were thwarted

#

parchjustice (archjustice of parsec) decided our fight would shake the earth to its core and had 2 put a stop to it 😔

wide river
#

parchjustice is just normal aj but colour inverted

#

......blue robes with a black mask, dang

onyx forum
#

dang....aj you have style compedition

mild falcon
#

instead of the weird eye thing aj has going on, it'd be this

onyx forum
#

im literally....pencil in air...you KNOW whats goin on and ABSOLUTELY that mask

vestal bluff
#

Even the halo is perfect

dusk current
#

Parchjustice saved you from an earthshaking defeat Kam. I got one (1) douse on Morgan when we played at PAX, and the rest was him just absolutely wrecking me.

onyx forum
#

parchjustice: MORRRGAN, YOUR GPU IS NOT UP TO PAR...... (softly) and kam, get betterrrr at rrrrites

#

its ok tho failer already mopped the floor with me the other day

#

caitlin we should parsec sometime tho

vestal bluff
#

Just take Friday off and have an office-wide Supergiant vs Discord Royal Rumble

onyx forum
#

AAAAA.... ama? no. pvp.

#

from now on if anyone asks about "pyre online multiplayer when" they are put in the fight zone and have to battle their way thru everyone in sgg. if they lose theyre banned

vestal bluff
#

It's Rite Club

onyx forum
#

RITE CLUB!!

dusk current
#

kam i will absolutely find a day at the office that I can download it and try it out so you can see how bad I am at Pyre

onyx forum
#

the first rule of rite club is you cant write down the rules of rite club. its scribe magic it just wont stay on the paper

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:SOLIDARITY:
i forgot the handshake emote isnt called that but im leaving it.

vestal bluff
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First rule: You don't read about Rite club

dusk current
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I'll take on anyone in the Rites, and subsequently lose terribly. 💪

onyx forum
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i only think im good at pyre bc i play on easy mode or maaaybe standard when i want a challenge gjkgjkgjk we can play evenly matched.

oblique wren
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Ohhh, sounds like I need to practice

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If this is really happening

onyx forum
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realtalk the difficult part about rites is theres so MUCH going on. the only way i can make it thru is like....sacrificing memory of moves and abilities to pay attention to whats going on

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passing?? saluting??? throwing??? DOES NOT exist 2 me because i need to like. react to whats happening with reasonable speed

vestal bluff
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Just memorize every character's moves and Talismans and also have great reflexes and Rite Sense
EZPZ

onyx forum
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"and also have great reflexes" OOPS

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i like that you dont have to memorize tho! just check the bottom of the screen :3

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bastion transistor and pyre all show what button does what the entire way through iirc and i think thats really nice of them

vestal bluff
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tbh I didn't even see the thing until my third playthrough

onyx forum
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pyre even shows on screen what an ability or talisman boost is as its being used! they made a really good attempt at accessibility.

vestal bluff
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And I didn't know Bastion had one until this second

onyx forum
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like im playing twewy now which...does not, remind u what buttons do, and every time i pick it up im like well i have no clue how 2 play this

vestal bluff
onyx forum
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i just think its nice that even in fast paced games theyre like, trying a lil to make it accessible if you have a bad memory or bad reflexes etc
nothing will beat transistors fight style tho gjkgkgjk

vestal bluff
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Turn() based combat is super cool

onyx forum
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turn() is the best thing to happen to any videogame

spiral osprey
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@dusk current if it were not for the 4500 miles between our computers, i would have beat you in pyre by now

mild falcon
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ama pvp, every win by discord member means sgg has to answer a hard lore question

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like "why deluge is like that?"

vestal bluff
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"You are a minnow, Cake! A tiny minnow, swimming in a sea of minnows many times your size! And with much more honour too!"

mild falcon
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🐟

dusk current
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I spent way too long wondering if replacing all the words or adapting your phrasing to the meme would be better. 🤔

spiral osprey
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I have the power to pinne and i will

spiral osprey
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Hey @brisk whale I'm going through Sahrian dialogue again and I'm fairly sure (and by fairly sure I mean I have two instances of context so far) that "Sala haladiem" is a "by the grace of god" or "I hope this turns out well" type of fixed phrase but I am curious if there's a fuller translation for that
i got the meaning on my own so i'm allowed to ask this

brisk whale
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@spiral osprey My original translation of 'Sala haldiem', first said by Hedwyn, was 'There's always tomorrow.'; a Hedwyn-y phrase, felt like something he would tell himself and others. I can see why you would take 'diem' for 'god' though...!

spiral osprey
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Oh, it's more that Volfred uses it too to talk about ascended characters

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I was going by context - didn't necessarily think it was religious! I didnt even have a bead on the etymology which was why I asked

brisk whale
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Yeah as ever it's about the sound and tone, not the literal translation; so I would reuse phrases in contexts where they felt right.

spiral osprey
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That's fun though! I like that a lot :')

brisk whale
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Probably in Volfred's case I used it there because it had the connotations you detected.

spiral osprey
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"Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's always, tomorrow...🎵"

brisk whale
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So very loosely it's a hopeful-feeling, reassuring phrase -- I think that's mainly what I was hoping folks would get from it.

spiral osprey
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Yeah - I know they're not direct translations but when a phrase is used multiple times in similar situations you end up getting a feeling for it anyways, like you say!

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It's fun to poke at even if I rarely get "words" out of it - it's this big complicated puzzle where I only have maybe 30% of the pieces but I'm trying to figure out the picture anyways. Something fun to chew on when I'm not doing anything else, haha

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Thanks!

stoic junco
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Have you added that to the spreadsheet?

spiral osprey
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Not yet because he Just Said It and it's 12:28 am and I'm on my phone right now haha

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It'll get added eventually

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Just like Volf's lines will be finished, eventually

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Pyre characters ranked in order of how much they love the sound of their own voice

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  1. Brighton
  2. Volfred
onyx forum
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dark mirrors of each other

spiral osprey
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In another time, another place, another world...they could've even been friends

onyx forum
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volfred hates being beaten but he shrugs it off as "well i COULD be number one but i like to THINK before i speak"

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in another game...

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the other world is cbs's the good place where theyre chidi and michael

wide river
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hi i'm dying from this new info about my best boy

mild falcon
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Good place/downside aus have so much potential

lavish ridge
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i am HERE for this CROSSOVER

mild falcon
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I shouldn't say too much bc spoilers, but like, so many parallels

lavish ridge
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i mean to keep it vague, they're both found family stories imo

wide river
onyx forum
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good place au with tariq as Janet

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(lute strum) hi! im tariq

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also
aj: i got you something i like to call opposite torture
reader: you mean a gift?

mild falcon
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Does Gilman map nicely onto the monk?

onyx forum
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gilmendoza...

mild falcon
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so good

gloomy steeple
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this might be my favorite pyre crossover I've seen

onyx forum
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hi i just played thru gilmans liberation for the first time and like. i WILL strive to be a better person for this wyrm T^T

vestal bluff
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You're only liberating Gilman NOW!?!??!!

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Man

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How could you leave him behind until now

cloud quartz
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Lol i didnt liberate gilman

vestal bluff
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Why do you hate honour?

cloud quartz
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He offered me his freedom and i was like "Hell yeah, i'll take it"

mild falcon
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That's a very Gilman thing to do

vestal bluff
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I think everyone does that on the last Rite against Oralech

cloud quartz
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Yup

mild falcon
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But it feels so gilman

vestal bluff
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It does

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Honourable fool

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Still though. When it was Gilman, I let him out

onyx forum
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oh...i honestly just never got around to it before, im trying to go in rounds so i could find out everyones lib stories! also im keeping tamitha down for the first time (WHICH WAS VERY HARD)

vestal bluff
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Ah yes, Tamitha

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Always had mixed feelings about her

mild falcon
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The party doesn't start until she comes in

cloud quartz
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I love tamitha

mild falcon
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She brings the booze, you see

vestal bluff
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Except for once, I always saved Pam's liberation until after Tam gets her chance, so I can keep them apart
That way Pam doesn't get hit
Even though Pam wants to make things right, I think Tam hates her too much

onyx forum
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i wanted to lib pamitha versus tam to see whatd happen but she wasnt enlightened enough...o well lol

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tam is. rough. and i always feel bad for pam growing up in her shadow and by her standards 😭

vestal bluff
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Somewhat ironically, I've found that Rukey is amazing versus the Essence

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Yeah, Tam can be a bit... intense at times

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Or at all times

onyx forum
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one day pams gonna wake up and feel proud of herself and not even think if tam at all for a few hours at least 🐦 🙏

mild falcon
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Of course dogs can chase away birds

onyx forum
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curs should have a bonus vs the messenger imp

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ykno...the mailman.... ron ron

vestal bluff
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Reckon Tamitha has ever told a joke?

onyx forum
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yeah but not a good one

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tams idea of a joke is like "hey tam what u want for lunch" "the heads of the cw officials on spikes"

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(rando harp voice) yeah i have like. 5 lun

vestal bluff
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It's cause she's only ever surrounded by the other Talons
Pam's the only one with a sense of humour and a non-0% chill factor

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That might get a laugh from the other Talons

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Pam, with a normal sense of humour, might be the odd one out

mild falcon
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Actually not many pyre characters would tell jokes I think. Hedwyn would come up with decent puns to keep morale up.

onyx forum
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i get the feeling that tam seems extreme even for talons tbh
maybe like a nervous giggle from the others

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HELLO....TIZOS AWARD WINNING JOKE ABT FISH KILLING HIS FAMILY

mild falcon
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Tizo tells jokes, naturally

onyx forum
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TARIQ'S "HEDWYNS.....HES.........walking around" even he got a sense of humor

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rukey absoluuuutely tells jokes too

vestal bluff
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We've got like 3 bad-jokesters on the team

onyx forum
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this is a comedy wagon!!!!

vestal bluff
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Rukey would be funny definitely

onyx forum
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rukey and gilman funny/serious guy routine

mild falcon
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Barker, shouting across the field: hey tamitha, hey tamitha. Hey, hey tamitha. It sure is ligma around here.

onyx forum
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AAAAAAA

vestal bluff
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I'm cackling rn

onyx forum
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celeste: state your name and occupation
barker: my names bofa and im updog

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celeste: 🙄

mild falcon
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Gilman would be the straightman, but it's not too clear whether he's doing it on purpose

vestal bluff
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He's definitely not doing it on purpose

onyx forum
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i think he sometimes wouldnt get jokes just bc hes literal but hes great at exaggerating his manner to be funny

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ae tells jokes and spends like 5 minutes on a wandering buildup before finally arriving at a punchline and tbh it makes it twice as funny

mild falcon
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Ae would tell the monk joke to anyone willing to listen

onyx forum
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YES

mild falcon
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People who've already heard it listen in, because she tells it differently every time and they want to see how it goes

vestal bluff
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And it has like a 40% chance of not making any sense at all

onyx forum
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ae: telling the monk joke the third time that day
rukey: ae we know were not monks
jodi, reader, tariq, tizo: bent in listening intently, urging her to go on

vestal bluff
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But it's funny anyway

onyx forum
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sandra knows a lot of blasphemous jokes about the scribes for sure

vestal bluff
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Sandra would be the queen of dark humour

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But it's all really antiquated cause it's 800 years old
So it's like how we have to decipher all Shakespeare's double entendres today

wide river
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ae would tell that snake joke

onyx forum
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brighton cant tell a joke without laughing

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YESSSS THE SNAKE JOKE

mild falcon
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Surprised Sandra doesn't say something along the lines of "you don't smell as bad as the underking, at least"

onyx forum
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brighton: hey erisa you hearrrrrd- HAHAHAHA its SUCH a funny joke (wiping his eyes) hee hee.... so theres a nomad, right, PFFFT-
erisa: actually i dont wanna hear it

mild falcon
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Bertrude would just tell funny anecdotes about her life, but with a straight face, and no one would be able to tell if they're fact or fiction

onyx forum
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bertrude is queen of dramatizing small events so they sound like Stories

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i feel like. volfred acts like hes above jokes. but he WILL partake in the occasional prank and be extremely smug about it

mild falcon
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Bertrude would really enjoy the monk joke, I think. She'd keep a straight face but she'd love it

onyx forum
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yesss

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reader puts a water abaloon in the door for funsies one day so bertrude tariq volfred and tizo prank the reader

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all of them perfect at poker faces

mild falcon
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Volfred would intentionally make tree puns and make them seem like accidents

onyx forum
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HDKCMFMG

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but if YOU make one he acts insulted

mild falcon
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Volfred: "listening to Manley talk really saps my life away"
Reader: "haha yeah I bet you wish he'd leaf you alone"
Volfred: "how could you?"

onyx forum
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volfred tells a really like nerdy smarts joke and no one gets it and volfred goes like well i guess ur 2 dumb to understand!!! but hes just annoyed no one got it

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hey.

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hey thats not a great word to be throwing around.

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yeah.

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ah....i wouldnt tho

mild falcon
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Gilman is king of anti jokes I think

onyx forum
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you goooota be more specific anti means 10,000 things

mild falcon
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"What's blue and smells like fish."
"A blue fish"

onyx forum
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AAAAA THOSE....YES

vestal bluff
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Ti'zo would laugh at that

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ae too

mild falcon
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Yeah it'd be a riot

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"What kind of creature has wings like a harp, hair like a crone, and is as loud as a drive-imp? None such creature exists."

onyx forum
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NDNCNCMCNG

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thats p funny tbh

mild falcon
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Yeah I'm a fan of this kind of joke

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Imagine if almer did a scribe trial, and Sandra's being sandra until she notices that behind his stern face he's taking it personally

onyx forum
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oh man.....

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almer would freak out bc hes alone i think

vestal bluff
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He's got Dalbert

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At least until the story ends

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Megagilmanangst

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From being separated I mean

mild falcon
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She'd be like "hah, how are you gonna cope without your pop to back you up" and he'd be on the verge of tears

vestal bluff
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He wouldn't show it, but yeah probably

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He'd mask it behind being furious at Sandra

mild falcon
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He'd mask it by putting his mask on

onyx forum
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oooooh YES

vestal bluff
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He wouldn't want to admit he could conduct the Rites alone. He knows Dalbert is getting older.

onyx forum
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for sure...

mild falcon
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What a tough sitch to be in

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"Fate looking for new member"
"Oh, y'all managed to liberate someone?"
"...no..."

vestal bluff
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Nah, either way the Rites end before that

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Almer just gets left alone, regardless of what side he's on

mild falcon
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It doesn't happen, but it could have. And the idea that it could would keep him up at night

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Would keep both of them up, really

vestal bluff
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My impression is actually different
Almer is aware that Dalbert is aging, but he's kind of shoved that back into his subconscious. He wants to get Dalbert free, very urgently. Basically, before he dies, and if you asked him in those terms, he'd agree.
But Dalbert's actual death wouldn't be something he'd consider. That's where his faith is. I think Almer believes, without even considering otherwise, that Dalbert won't die in the Downside.

mild falcon
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Yeah I feel you

vestal bluff
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Dalbert himself would be actively worried though

mild falcon
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To what extent is Dalbert deceiving almer, then? I'm sure his plan to switch places was a long time coming

vestal bluff
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Oh, yeah, that's been the plan ever since they were exiled

onyx forum
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idk if id say decieving? its not malicious

vestal bluff
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Deception has the wrong connotation, but yeah, 100% it is

onyx forum
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i think he sort of. just worried over what almer would say, not wanting to upset him

vestal bluff
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Partly, but also that Almer would disagree

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They'd both Gilman eachother

mild falcon
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I'm just thinking of almer being all "I'm gonna save you, dad" and dalbert being like "that's great, son", knowing that that's not gonna happen

vestal bluff
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Dalbert knows that Almer is really intense about this, but knows that his time is short, and Almer would put his more years of freedom to better use than him

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This whole thing is why these guys are my faves.
Plus Almae, which is such a cute contrast from the Fate's really heavy other stuff

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Do we ever get a bit of telepathy with either of them? Like the way we do with Pamitha or Ignarius?

mild falcon
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That'd be a bit personal idk

vestal bluff
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Yeah, it wouldn't be necessary. We get told everything we need to without it

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Still though. Hearing Ignarius' thoughts during the first Liberation was very sympathetic.

mild falcon
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<what is she doing with those sticks>

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I'm not really into igariel, dunno why

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Almae is cute tho

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(Bertwyn 4eva)

mighty badge
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Hey guys

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Thoughts on moon touched girl x almer?

vestal bluff
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Ignariel made not much sense, but it happens years offscreen

heavy hill
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almer/vagabond makes sense, ignariel kinda does? sorta?

mighty badge
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Ignariel??

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Idk man

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Ive always gotten those big lesbian vibes from jodi

vestal bluff
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Almae forever though

mighty badge
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Hell yes

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They're just so cute its great

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I rate this ship 11 gays out of 10

onyx forum
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jodiggy rubs me the wrong way, i dont care for hateships much ://

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almae cute tho yeah!!!

mild falcon
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Voliq?

onyx forum
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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

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HOOOOO....HOO BOY.....tariqvolfredpride

grand frost
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hateships exist? 😰

onyx forum
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lol yes

grand frost
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backs away slowly

vestal bluff
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I always thought Tariq and Celeste ended up together..?

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Reunited and it feels so good etc?

onyx forum
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oh i like celestariq too! imo thehre exes by the time pyre starts tbh

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they read as like awkward "i work woth my ex it suuucks" kgmgmhm

mild falcon
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Tariq and celeste are workplace exes the worst kind

vestal bluff
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Huh

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Their relationship was held together by jamming

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Without it they fell apart

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But it brought them back together again

onyx forum
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when i think back it wasnt what we had they were just playin that song made it last so long 🎵

mild falcon
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volfredthink does that make volfred a homewrecker?

onyx forum
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hdjfkgkfkfmfn no bc they werent together when he showed up

mild falcon
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He kept them apart for the first part of his plan

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Which coincidentally gave him more time with tariq

onyx forum
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i like the idea of tariq n celeste like. having a big feelings jam after the game and like. bein friends again at the very least or more if thats ur take. being cool around each other at the VERY least.

vestal bluff
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So, is Celeste the “lost & lonesome bride”?