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Confirmed
Ron is the male harp say it with me
Ron is the mythical Prince of Harps
- Ron unfolds his four arms*
All of which are wings
YES
ron approaches pam with his 4 wings
"your wings will make fine additions to my collection"
GHFHGFJDH
"hello there"
"Ah, general Pamobi"
"You are an enlightened one"
Ron * bass boosted cough*
"I will deal with this Nightwing slime myself"
Secret ending to Pyre
once the rites ended, as the gaze of the scribes wandered away from the Downside, ron used all the Sol he had earned from the exiles to become a god and rule over the realm as a tyrant
eh heheheh
Ron doesn't need to become a god, for he already is one
be nice to everyone you meet, because they might be ron in disguise 
Ron travels different dimensions
hey so I swear this is relevant to pyre but is anyone here into fire emblem heroes?
Every character looks like hedwyn
ohhh i haven't played in a while but yeah
I gave up the game when I realized there were different levels of a character, rather than Seth just being Seth
yes i am
alright, related to that: anyone know where I can find some full body pictures of pyre characters?
the files
I know of a site where I can basically create FEH units
was thinking of doing pyre folk
that would be appreciated
the only full-body shots seen in the game are the models used in the rites
a few of the portraits are pretty close to fullbodies, but they lack definition in the lower halves as they're usually hidden behind the text boxes
think the sole exception to that is rukey bc he's so small
yeah
and ti'zo
and Gilman
but that's still not very many of em
oh and Bertrude
well I don't think I'm able to really do Rukey and Gilman due to their size anyway
anyone who has to sit on a box in dialogue, basically
yeah but still
i gave them the most human Nightwings cause thats what i have on hand
iirc the other triumverate characters dont have unique sprites
like
they all have their own heads
yeah
but they're basically copy/pasted on a default robed sprite
thats recolored based on the triumverate
there are a few sprites though that give a bit more of the character
by that i mean the ones featured as the credits roll
oh yeah, i have those
yeah me too
like the one that shows Pamitha has feet
or the one of Bertrude that shows shes actually quite skinny and frail looking
now to look at hero lists so I actually know what I'm doing when statting these people
it has a custom unit tab
btw, what do you all think Jodi's weapon type would be: Bow, spear, axe or sword?
the easy way out would be some sort of tome but then I'd just give everyone a tome and that's just... cheap really
axe
I was thinking the same myself
yeah, making her armored
Hedwyn would definitely be sword/calvary
I was actually thinking of a bow for him
his aesthetic always struck me as an archer type
really?
ive always seen him as the opposite
being a regular sword user
imo if anyone, Pamitha would be the archer
we've had the complete opposite impressions lol
well whatever you do as Pamitha's weapon, shes gotta have flying move type
of course
Bertrude would probably have a breath weapon, with calvary move type
*ae would probably use a lance/spear, with infantry move type
I like the way you think
I'm actually thinking of *ae getting the book of rites
she's the most fitting to carry it really, considering her devotion
pffff
1 hp
0 attack
0 def
0 res
1 spd
my dudes 👏 sup
o
now play it 50 more times
will do
you will never escape NBA Purgatory
late night thoughts
why does sky dance feature clapping, when harps dont seem to be able to clap
the answer of course, is that tariq loves seeing harps
and so he claps
mood
not sure how he claps and lutes at the same time though
perhaps one day ill be a skilled enough musician to understand
tariq invented the looping pedal
i can just imagine celeste rolling her eyes as tariq claps excitedly
tariq invented the looping pedal just so he could clap along to the essence
also, how come pamitha got regular feet if her theme is called talon sheath
because harps are just a mess
i have... an alternate theory
there are a number of theories 😂 let's hear it
horrifying
absolutely the case
I'm scared
the truth can be scary
What the
ron
okay but how does Jodariel wear her mask
her horns dont fit the mask's shape at all
don't be that guy
but how does she do it
it doesnt. it just looks great!
tbh love it so much.......we stan a nonsensical stylization
i love being in this server because i get to relive the classic questions
same ven
"what are harp feet" "how does jodi wear her mask" "wyrms???"
are her horns made of rubber or like pool noodle materiel?
or is she so strong she can just completely change the shape of her horns like putty
OR
OR
tbh i love and will defend with my life fantasy stuff that has no sense or reason
past "its cool"
DEMONS DONT ACTUALLY HAVE HORNS
rule of cool is best rule
YEAH
theyre wearing headbands but if they take em off for even a second aj yells at them
but non-readers cant hear the Archjustice can they?
omg yes
thEY"RE JUST OVERSIZED EARMUFFS
or
they're like the cat ear headphones
and they're just
listening to music always
they also light up but shhhhh dont let Archjustice know
its auras
you know what theyre listening to? this new band tariqs really into................loona
🌝
They listen to Grand Ceremony as well
did somebody say pyre
yes
kam i cant believe you've done this
important chart
WHERE IS HEDWYN
He needs his own section: "cooks food for everyone while they fight about the earth"
where is hedwyn this is my constant eternal mood
also he's in the second category For Sure
AAAAAA I FORGPT HEDWYN
i think he would be the third actually
hedwyn makes direct eye contact w/ brighton before he Starts It
YEAH
"is the earth flat, let's discuss" winks at camera
Who is brighton
if you dont know, ur prob not far in enough 🤐
Ive finoshed the game once and am half way through my second playthrough
oh ok its aj's real name
ohhh np!!

There happen to be any high quality images of triumvirate emblems around?
there do! Do you want all of them or one specifically?
I'd need just the Fate one right now
mk, gimme a sec!
Many thanks!
here ya go
Thanks a whole lot!
how do they even go about setting stained glass on fire
the same way they make the fire fall from the sky probably
scribespower 🤷
@spiral osprey could you send me the high res photo of all the triumvirates?
gonna be a lot of files, but sure! give me a second
Been building some deconstructed versions of the sigils but haven't been able to find good quality versions of their sigils to go off of
@leaden flax I'm pretty sure it's alluded in the game that only Readers--or past Readers, like Volfred--can hear The Voice. 😃
yeah thats kinda what i though
cause i dont think anyone else besides Volfred really acknowledged he was even there
because i remember that Volfred said that he doesnt wear the robes so that the Archjustice cant see him
oh yeah...
voice can see people available to rite
yeah cause they're waeing the robes
i dont think that the Archjustice can even see people unless they're a reader or are currently wearing rite vestiments or are currently participating in a rite
from what i remember
voice can see readers even without a rite, right?
it wasnt until Volfred wore the vestiments before the rite with Manley that the voice saw he was traveling with you
yeah but Volfred isnt a reader anymore
just cause he has the ability to read doesnt make him a reader
since you're the Nightwing's reader, he can only see you
Volfred isnt the reader for a group anymore, therefore he cant be seen by the Archjustice
hmm, i see
is there an instance where the voice talks to you outside of a rite, though
yes
he reaches out to you in your dreams iirc
telling you that theres a traitor in your group (referring to Volfred)
and yet, in the match with the accusers, he seems surprised to see you "reading so soon after your exile"
isnt that during the tutorial?
oh yeah, right
perhaps he can see you when you've got the book with you
since book is part of raiments
and presumably, readers sleep with books
if think its more that once you've read of the Book of Rites, and have officially been appointed as the Reader for the Nightwings, that he has the ability to watch you specifically
but other than that outside forces other than Readers (and arent wearing the vestiments or during a rite) are out of his sight
cause he had no knowledge of what Volfred was planning iirc, despite him being the former reader for the Nightwings
volfred was avoiding the raiments, and presumably then, the book
yeah exactly
he only gave in to wearing them once it was absolutely neccessary, so he could hide himself from Manley
or else risk the plan he worked so hard for being leaked to the Commonwealth
that risk being the only thijng that could push him into wearing them
the way i see it, it's gotta be the book that links em
because the only time voice talks to someone while they're not obviously near a book, it's the sleep thing, and as a reader you probably were reading the book at the time
but that brings the question
would he have still beeen able to see you had you left the blackwagon when Volfred rejoined with the Nightwings
depends on whether you brought a book with you, is my answer
anyway, if you didnt bring one, aj wouldn't have to keep an eye on you
i doubt they'd need you
i think they would, if volfred's reading
they'd already have to have a Reader in the first place to be able to be a Triumverate
that's disputed
how else would they even know what the Book of Rites says if they didnt?
well
like, someone who levitates above the rites and coordinates the team
i dont think thats how it works
because that person could easily do it from the middle of the Rites themselves
the only reason you do is because you're too crippled to participate
it's better to have a 4th person with a birds eye view than not, no?
i agree that if reader wasn't crippled, they'd play
yeah
cause iirc
Volfred participated in the rites with Oralech and the other girl when he was the Nightwing's reader
but presumably when tizo would switch in, volfred would still read
but if you walked into the gross bog, book in hand, to the withdrawn, and you told them
A: I'm the reason you lost to nightwings
B: praise ysl####
they might take you in
better chances than trying to outsmug a tree
well
tbh its not like the reader would have to go to another triumverate
theyres plenty of places they could settle down
they could go and help Bertrude in exchange for her letting you stay with her
thats fair, but when i imagined alternatives to triumverates, i imagined the reader going in solo. hand-forged stained glass circle, a good walking stick, all the way up alodiel
poison the triumverate that's supposed to face the nightwings for liberation, and become the true nightwing
now thats an AU and a half
Hell, Oralech could find them and take them in as a playing chip against the Nightwings
the sigil that the reader forges for themself is a big middle finger
oh, that's curious actually
which of the three true nightwings can read
well
when Volfred joined the Nightwings
it was
Oralech
Erisa
Tariq
so chances are it could be Oralech himself
couldve been the guy who swapped out and let volfred in
did oralech, in his great ragefueled vengance, have to convince some reader to follow him?
or did volfred teach oralech, in a heartwarming moment daww
could have been possible he had some experience reading beforehand
he was a physician so
well, there's more or less gotta be a way to doctor without reading
Oralech but he's a middle ages plague doctor
yeah, that's my headcanon
if you get hurt in front of you, he'll get right to the bloodletting
he doesnt know what he's doing but people are stupid so they just believe whatever he tells them
on the other hand
id think Bertrude would have actual medical knowledge
she'd give you some gross sludge made from a dozen toxic mushrooms
it tastes horrid but you'd get better and not die
yeah, her approach would be closer to medicine
using magic, she can perfectly synthesize grape flavored cough medicine
the kind that tastes nothing like grape
that's her secret recipe for surviving the pit of milithe
honestly
i see Oralech more as a physician that would like
help more with broken bones and cuts and other physical wounds more than sicknesses and diseases
maybe he'd be able to help with colds and the flu but not much else
Bertrude on the other hand would be able to make some potion that cures you of leprosy or other horrendous plagues and diseases
he treated tizo, so he knows the basic concept of holding broken things together and they'll fix themselves
oralech would glue your fingertip back onto your finger
bertrude would very thoroughly disinfect the wound, and then tell you to suck it up
You two forgot about Brighton lul (he was the reader that Volfred replaced)
Yes, only readers can become a voice.
Well, maybe I misread but it looked like you didn't remember that he was part of the nightwings before volfred joined. If you did say that my bad 
tbh my memory isnt great so like, i knew it, but the thing completely slipped from me. I honestly didnt remember his name though
To be fair he only gets mentioned when Volfred tells you about the og Nightwings. I would have forgotten about him if it wasn't because I've seen too many memes.
EVERYBODY HOLD UP
MLENDEL CANON
who's the m in mlendel
manley
oooh
wouldn't they hate each other?
lendel breaks windows in the night
manley sells replacements in the morning
😂 😂
it's a living
Lendel hates everyone
So he says... but we all know he's Lendel the LIAR
so youre saying hes a tsundere
uwu reader-sama, it's not like I enjoy plunging into your pyre or anything"
owo
i won't have my otp slandered like this
readel 4eva
why'd we never call it tindel tho
Lendel and Manley my faves
dunk that precious man in the purifying flame
FEAR NOT THE PURIFYING FL-AMA!
So! People! What did your Pyre story end up like?
Bertrude, Tizo, and sir gilman were left in the downside. The revolution was peaceful. Sandra became my ghost wife
U?
Other stuff happened but this was last year lol
I, Bertrude, sir gilman and sandalwood were left behind
Had a dramatic confrontation at the end with Hedwin, deciding which one of us (him or the Reader) should go. Best dialogue in the entire game, i can't get myself to replay it any other way now.
Myself, Berth and Tree McWoodson stayed.
Oh man that sounds really good
I couldn't take Oralech's freedom again
I felt bad for him
Apologized mentally to hedwin for making him unable to keep his promise
Oh i totally beat him up for being so salty even after acknowledging whole situation.
I beat him up but
I felt back for oralech but not that bad
god damn it
Rip
uh, his life was worse than the rest at the downside
I had to choose between myself and Hedwyn at the end too but I felt it was important to liberate the first 3 people I met (Hedwyn, Jodariel and Rukey) so I ended up staying in Downside.
My only regret is sending the best girl in the first ascension.
Jodariel?
Which is best
Tae, obviously.
You mean Bae?
I'm pretty sure you guys mean Xae
Shoud've asked Darren which name he likes most.
Kinda want to replay it so i can have her in my part longer
(according to audiofiles it's Mae)
Bae obv
(but who knows)
That's why I really want to replay it too
I want more time with hedwin
hedwyn rather
I sent rukey out first
Oof
Rukey was 2nd for me
He's a good boy
I kept pamitha in my party for as long as possible
My logic was that the rest were better fit for the life in the downside but
ah man pamitha
One of the most painful parts of the games were beating my adversaries
Like the fate triumvirate
The sadest part about that actually...
Which are those again
The dog and son
Yeah
Yeah rip them
The saddest part about that is that my last battle with them was their last chance
OOF
and I had Bae's freedom at stake

Bae's freedom against the guy that he so much loved
Was he hitting on Tae?
I felt so bad
I remember they had special dialogues after a few matches.
they were getting somewhere
Dont the son and Shae get together if theyre in the same place at then end of the game?
I choose to believe it
I couldnt leave bae here forever though
Ive plat transistor already
They do
here being the downside
Shae deserved freedom
She deserved being with jodariel a bunch
But only if you had them interact in couple of matches.
Also can we appreciate how good the music is with the credits
Also, off topic, but what are you guys favorite version of Never to Return?
Tempers
End Credits music made me CRY
Im stuck between tempers and dissidents being my fav version
My fav one was dissidents
Not because it's the first, but because it's more gritty version of Rage of Demons, and i want it.
Music is so good though
The slight changes on the songs depending on who is speaking
the slight changes on the sonds depending on who has the orb
Darren is in my top 3 fav composers just for his work on pyre
same
Yeah the sound design is excellent
I loved him on transistor and bastion but damn
but pyre is the one that's stuck with me the longest
I actually felt pretty in pyre
like i was actually part of the story that was unwrapping around me
Yee
I want to do a run where I loose every rite
The music is pretty immersive and fantastic
It sounds like a pretty interesting run imo
With or without the modifier stars?
would that make a difference if I loose on purpose?
Do all the stars at once and get the trophy
Also, the stars would just make you lose faster lol
That's true
Do they only give you the bonus if you win?
I'm gonna do that and I'm gonna feel miserable.
I believe so
I remember "If you prevail" somewhere in that description
That would make sense
I'm really happy i didnt retry once during my first playthrough
the stakes felt real
Same. It felt better, having to continue with your failures and mistakes like the characters did.
Harpies were probably the hardest for me
If you've got jodi as goalkeeper, and you remember to jump, you can get them
that's fair
Volfred protip #33: when faced with harpies, remember to jump!
I just used pamitha against the harpies and jumped with rukey lol
IDK about my favorite but I remember really liking The Dissident's version. But, I love all of them! 😍
Tbh
Hedwyn with Shoulder Smash all day
Or with Volfred, plant your sapling just in front of your flame, and when you block, they’ll fall into it
But yeah, either Tamitha or Udmildhe is definitely the toughest
I've found Shoulder Smash oooocasionally useful in VS Mode, but has anyone actually used it in the campaign?? It's really cool but I think there are other Masteries that are of more use, ultimately....
It's like, whenever I bother getting it, I end up only using it once, and then would be forced to spend 20 Sol on one of those Snuff boxes to undo it...
Definitely me. I adore Shoulder Smash. I think Tamitha and Udmildhe are the toughest to face with all Titan stars, but they always score from the air.
Only trouble is that if you've already taken down two of them, then Smashing the last one will activate Shax and bring them all back
Still tho
I always go with the left side Nomad abilities, even though Sacred Bond is insane
I generally use Hedwyn on defense, and Critical Strike and Shoulder Smash are both really useful to keep opponents away
Sacred Bond is AMAZING! I remember using it fondly during my first playthrough! 😍
now I really want to do some VS and experiment with Shoulder Smash....Think I might. 😃
If only there was online multiplayer
The only flaw I've ever found in this game
I remember reading on here that people got online play kind of working with a software called Teamviewer. You ever heard of it?
Yup
nope.
Neither have I
I mean, except for that one instance
Reckon it has low enough latency to play Pyre?
In FIFA 19's new Survival mode, your team loses a player every time you score: https://t.co/phtiRHHqFZ https://t.co/2TFG6L5Z5l
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That sounds familiar....
by the soccer, we fifa in their names
So, after a bit of googling, I've found what's called Parsec
It's EA, you think they aren't going to copy something else that is encroaching in their space?
That might be our best bet if we want to actually do this
Yeah
They also call it 'cloud gaming' too
Seems to be some real technology behind it though
Tech or buzzwords?
I don't think it's buzzwords
I think this test is actually more extreme than Pyre currently is
I'm not sure how many fps I get, but it's definitely less than 240
Their claim is that the total lag added is 7ms, plus the usual lag that comes with any online gaming
It seems that TheCakeFlavor is the Nightwings of game sharing software
A common foe, for all to prove their claim
Prevail for freedom, or to fail in shame
More like the beyonders
To test your strength before facing a greater foe
...do you live in a ball?
Perhaps 

ok i checked out parsec
gotta have a recent version of windows to host, so i guess ill be client
ill send a message here tomorrow when I'm free
deluge
Hm... it's been a while since I last played -- what's the "wobbly" Aura shape mean again?
iirc it's mostly cosmetic
they just have fancy aura blasts and use that to banish instead of sprinting
anyone else got parsec set up?
I definitely want to, but I've got to write a paper this weekend
Good luck on the paper!!!!! 😄 😄 😄 😄 What's it about?
Haha, I'll need it
It's a report for the project I worked on over my internship this summer
I've found that I like doing stuff, but I don't like writing about the stuff I do
lmao i was watching the pyre trailers and i was like "oh damn they replaced logan cunningham??" but then i realized
this guy is amazing, they're all amazing asdhfklsf
Yes!!!
is it possible to fight the same group twice in liberation rite?
Yes!
It doesn't happen much though, haha
You can help a team rise through the rankings by choosing to face and defeat the teams with more favor than them
essence has 3 favours
now I have a liberation rite against Fate, and I have 3 liberation rites left including this one
I would really like to free both Pamitha and Tamitha, but if that isn't possible anymore I would rather go for fate and moon touched girl 🤔
I've tried to get the tempers back up to face them a second time but they still didn't have nearly enough favor, so the randomness of which teams you have the option to face probably factor in
Yeah that's true, it probably does
I guess facing them and loosing would help a lot 🤔
that too
not sure if I should let fate win or take a risk for the harps
so I wonder if deliberately losing liberation matches to get the other teams out of the way would be a good strategy to do this
i mean, you don't have to face the essence to liberate pamitha
yeah but I want to liberate Tamitha too
hey guys
i almost put hedwyn by 'please dont' and then went 'what would sparrow do' And Then...I Knew
If Bertrude told me to perish, I don't think I would be making the choice
that is also correct
hjfgjdfld kam pls
Just got all the achievements in Pyre! 
Wow, nicely done
thanks!
👏 ❗
It's only my second game that I have all the achievements for. The first was to the moon, and it only had 1 achievement so...
I wanted to get the 12 titan stars achievement near the end of my first run and accidentally did it into the rite against nothing
I guess that's one way
I just got the first time you face the pyrehearts and it was pretty easy
How did you score 200 points with Volfred!?
I can never play as volfred
I just make a sapling and sit inside of it as volfred
also sometimes people will walk into your saplings
Im a very offenseive player lol
You do need some defense with all titan stars though
Yeah, the 2 times i used volfred i just stuck the sapling in front of my pyre
That's the way to do it
What's the dream team?
For me its pamitha, bertrude, and jodariel
Sometimes i switch jody with rukey
with Volfred, plant your sapling just in front of your flame, and when you block jumpers or flyers, they’ll fall into it
Dream team is Shae, Bertrude, and Rukey
Bertrude and Rukey are both very good jumpers, with Lightning Run and Serpend Swiftness
Fae (with the infinite stamina with the orb thing), Rukey, and Ti'zo (with level 20 wings of ha'ub)
Shae is defensive with Snap Cast, or offensive with Quick Fling
Or maybe bertrude instead of ti'zo
You can press the offense with either of the jumpers, and if they get taken out, snap cast all day until they get back
Or take an opportunity and fling it in for a couple points
Just to get your other guys back
I beat oralech on true nightwings mode (the final liberation rite), with Fae, Volfred, and Pamitha
I used the flame leech on fae and that helped a lot
I've beat Oralech with all titan stars, true nightwings a few times
Wow
Either Bertrude or Shae each time
Def not
well, pam or gilman
for me at least
Gilman is a thrower, so that's viable
what
I'm assuming you're not scoring with Volgfred...
gilman's a thrower?
Yes
Look, I'm damn good at scoring with VOlfred
He plays more like a jumper because of his short range, but you gnerally score by throwing with hum
people don't like scoring with Volfred but i love doing it
I NEVER use gilman to throw
You should
It's a very short range throw, like less than a meter, but it charges up near-intantly
I throw with Gilman and Pam, most often
I pretty much only ever throw with fae
though usually I don't use Hedwyn for the Oralech rite, since i lib him before that, so that's fair
Shae and GIlman are the best throwers, Rukey third-best
Once you have Quick fling that is
but in terms of general play, I hold onto Hedwyn so long, because harp-banishing jumps are a++
Totes
yeah, quick flings insane
which one's that?\
Against Oralech probably Volfred/Fae/Pam. Possibly Bertie
I just... am good at scorring with Volfred??
which i think a lot of people aren't
Shooting star is the same effect as Celestial Spike - Banish adversaries by throwing the Orb into them
It's hilrious with Quick FLing
That sounds pretty great
and since he's such a point sink
YES
I can't use lu's bough, he go's too far
tbf, I cut my teeth on mouse dashing/directing with HLD so.
u gotta aim him...thats the hard part
In hindsight, I think that helped with aim/his blink skill
HLD?
Never played it
essentially
AH
I was going to guess Head of Lettuce: Dio
its a gorgeous game, and one of my top faves
Dang
but if you play keyboard mouse you get
real good with directional dashing with moues aim
KB&M 4 lyfe
Seems like all my plays are low level in this game. I'm a one trick, all I can do is fly over everyone with tizo with talisman. If that fails, I try again until the ai lets me through
with the +10 pyre damage mastery, that works pretty well
Also, if you are smart with where you place Volfralech Jr. you can blink into that aura for safety
and then its like... one more blink and a few steps to dousing
Scoring with Tizo is weird
In some triumvirates, he definitely scores, but sometimes, he's more defensive
Generally I'd play him more defensive though
He's a great all rounder, unless you're into casting
Tempted to give him cursed heart so I can't accidentally cast w him
That's solid
what I find a bit strange is that, safe return and wider implosion are on the same path as the plus 10 pyre damage
More importantly, faster sprinting and +10 glory are on the same path
I can never seem to get the hang of playing Tizo
mostly I just... use him to pass the ball, or to join auras w/ someone else
Is implosion offensive or defensive? I don't think I've ever used it correctly
I use tizo as a cur that can't cast
Defensive, unless you get the Mastery where he automatically explodes when he gets banished
Then you just suicide into the opponents, to clear the way for whoever's the fastest on your team
I've never tried that, sounds like a good strat
can anyone use the portal ti'zo mastery? I can't use it at all
Must work well with moonsign
I usually don't castat all with Tizo though
That's the theory
In practice, moon sign is difficult/inefficint to use
Moonsign probably works well if you're planning to cast with demons
Cast or score?
Score, sorry
I mean, you have to go backwards to get to it
2 demons 1 imp, get the imp as far in as possible and then det, then toss a demon through moonsign to score
If you get the Orb, then go through the portal, you get banished instantly by the opponents
Hard to predict where the orb will be, reltive to the moon sign
Yeah
Better to just give the Demon Long Stride +the quickness talisman
Imps are definitly have the least defined role
One day I'll reliably score with demon
If you don't have Shax, then it's posible
Long Stride + Relentless Vigour, just lunge twice into one adversary, then the next, then the last
Early on the Withdrawn have Imps
Oralech has an Imp
But yeah, no Imp team. 
No Savage team either
O a Sap team
Arguably fate
Now that would be miserable to play against
Yeah, sort of
I considered it to be woofer dad's team
It's interesting the distinction between characters and Characters
Like, fate has 2 Characters
You can only play with Characters in versus
Because of that, you can have a 3 demon team or a 3 dog team in versus, but not 3 sap
Or 3 imp
The asymmetry is kind of strange
Especially how one f the demons is Oralech
WHo's not really a typical demon
Symmetry would have seemed too forced I think
Yeah oralech has fun stats
3 demon team is only vaguely playable thanks to oralechs speed
3 Demons could be done with giving Oralech the +hope talisman, and someone else the +speed talisman
SO if ORalech dunks, you can still score
Or just give everyone the +35 starting health mastery
Then it doesn't matter if they score twice as often as you
Yeah for sure
It's okay to trade blows if you're doing more damage
Oh also I can confirm that parsec works alright for pyre
Good find
Oh, nice
That's really good to hear
I wonder if there are enough people in this server to start a Pyre Versus league?
the client gets a bit of lag, so maybe for a league we'd switch off or something
but only windows can host...
They did add symmetry though, in the form of Messenger Imp and Sandra
Symmetry between races I meant
Like, you can have a triumvirate with 3 woofers, but not one with 3 savages, for example
Lag’s always an issue, but we’d have to deal with that even if Pyre had native online multiplayer
dark versus mode show me the forbidden all sap team
Darren would be unstoppable if he plays saps as well as we've been told
Lol
I actually asked him about that in the Q&A
Funny that they had to need the Saps just because of him
yeah I think that's hilarious
The Windows issue is more troublesome. But that’s just a limitation we’ll have to accept
Imagine 3 Saps, all with Miracle Kindling
“Oh, you think you win because you’ve done 100 damage to me? Now do 150 more.”
I re-read that in Manley’s voice
manley a s c e n d e d
Just change the "oh" to "oh-ho", and add "hmmm" at the end of the first sentence.
hey vsauce, stupid question here
if im playing pyre again
do i just create a new profile
or is there some way to "recourse" through the story
new one, theres no direct ng+ i think?
okay cool
yeah
you gotta start a new game
otherwise a previous finished will just load you outside The Fall of Soliam, right before the final boss
abstract concept: an multiplayer version of Pyre on an arcade cabinet
I'd play that
I feel like having the full moveset would be fine for an arcade version
i just beat pyre today....ahhh
nice!!!
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OMGGGG congrats on finishing the emotional rollercoster!! What did you think? Any favorite people/parts/Rites/music??? 😄 😄
Hmm I consider Moon Sign pretty darn useful myself, FailerVI! If you use it right you can cover a lot of ground.
Someone mentioned Oralech not being a typical demon....how so though?? He seems to fit the definition pretty well to me...And he's even grumpier than Jodariel, lol.
doesnt Oralech have 2 sets of horns
oralech isnt typical demon cause he got high speed and low hope
oh--you meant in gameplay. I thought you meant personality-wise or something. 😛 In that case he certainly is not typical, lol! Although since he got so horrifically injured from crashing down the Fall of Solium, and of course it took a super long time to heal, but I wonder how he got SO fast, considering injures? Jodariel is very slow and it [ utterly brilliantly] mentioned that she got her leg injured in the war; I'd always connected the two.
I like to think Oralech trained really hard out of spite
and unfortunate....
And managed to get himself back up to speed
Hm, yeah, that's a good point...
or even way past a normal demon's speed....Jodarial problably trains a lot, too...
oralech is a spite engine running on decade-old rage and determination, like
yeah i think the horns are just a matter of time. imagine what soliam would look like if he was still around
Yeah!! Well said.
He may also be smaller than Jodi, in terms of actual body mass
😮
He's also a physician who worked on the front and likely has some grasp of physical therapy
soliam now has horns instead of hair, and they're all really gnarly
So while Jodi hasn't been getting proper care for like, 20 years, Oralech has been taking as decent care of himself as could be expected probably haha
Like, if you stayed in the Downside long enough you might end up looking like a stag or something.....
Saviti has done some art like that!
😮 really!? Oooooo
like turning into a big beast, I mean
Ohhh.....
yeah, you should check out her blog! hold on let me grab a link
pyre but the demons have homestuck horns
Jodi hasn't been getting "proper care"???
yeah
I mean like
Oralech is a physician
*ae would totally glue candy corns to her head to make jodi feel better
makes sense he'd be able to take care of any injuries he gets and keep himself fairly healthy
I like to imagine the true nightwings going out on like 5 am runs lmao
do we know how long he was just lying there chillin
nope
or boiling with rage
no idea how long it took him to recover decent mobility either
Oooooo that link is AMAZING Venhediss!! TalENT! The artist is here on this server you say??
but he can't have been at the base of the falls for too long idt, he would've died from exposure or starvation even if he managed to treat his injuries somewhat
umm is she?
i'm not sure
yeah she is
darkshore grouper
5 mil runs....yeah I can see that being a thing for sure!
oh man imagine if he was lying there for months and months just doing leg crunches
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Epic talking with you guys!
And thanks for the link Venhediss!
I LOVE THIS DISCORD COMMUNITY GAAGHHHHH
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ok demon harps would look extra rad but how would they play
demon rush ability, but with the harp charge immunity?
lower flight time, but stun on land?
oralech was just beginning to turn into a demon when he took the fast way down the mountain, and says his horns had "grown long" before he could walk again
He's only been in the downside for two more years than Jodi. So I'm assuming there's a break between growing sets of horns, unless after your first set of horns, you get your second set way faster. Especially because there is no sign of Jodi having a second pair.
tbh i think her eyebrows are baby new horns
but even so, oralech's second set is just born from anger i think
so much anger he needed a second pair of horns to store it
Oralech has has 2 pairs of horns because he was stripped of his freedom twice
First by the Commonwealth, then by Erisa
oracle, huh
Does oralech know he has 2 horns
Like, it's probably saddening to check with your hands so I assume he like, learned to not do that
And doesn't seem like there's a lot of mirrors around downside
I can imagine volfred trying to signal to his old friend that he has a new pair of forehead friends
If he bathes on a regular basis, he's gotta know
Unless he just doesnt wash the head area
I assume oralech would bathe, he's a docter
hopefully he knows the importance of cleanliness
Rate all characters by likeliness to bathe
Bertrude is least likely
Or no, sandra probably wouldn't bathe but would smell fine because orb magic
I wouldn't think Ti'zo would bathe
Someone would lecture ae on cleanliness, and she enthusiastically starts bathing, but also insists on washing the blackwagon
I bet Bertrude sheds tbh
omg....she scrubs it real good tbh
bertrudes got magic soap
YES
gilman n bert's skins just...lyin there
Ti'zo can bathe himself! Like a cat
I'm p sure he has a status abt licking himself clean...
Does the blackwagon get mollusks after being at sea too long? Would ae remove them, or accept them as part of the nightwings?
leaning their lil faces into the bristles
inp food now
tariq just stands up and kinda shimmers for a sec and Hes Clean Now hfncnvnvn
sandra....reader polishes her orb
Is Gilman naturally slimy? Or scaly?
scaly hes like a reptile
Reckon he’d polish his scales?
I've always imagined wyrms as having frog texture
That’s what I thought too
ohhh i think of em like snakes or lizards
and yeesss scale polish
✅Gilman
❎Volfred
❎Tizo
Tizo is fluffy
Like a mammal, or a small bird
And Volfred has a whole other skin situation
He probably would until someone points it out to him
Or maybe he would start after someone points it out to him
i read "i bet bertrude shreds" the first time and now i imagine bertrude playing in a death metal band
volf got a sandal on each root walkin around sounding like an octopus in flip flops
YEAAAAAA
Must be weird for him, being in a wooden black wagon
Like a car made of bone
volf looks like the type of guy to wear socks and sandals if we're bein real here
"its sap fashion, my kin. perhaps if you opened your eyes for once youd understand"
AAAAAAA
Rate characters by likely hood of having regular feet
reader: wearing socks
volfred: you absolute fool it doesnt look right on human feet
gilman has no feet but a semblance of toes decorate his tail
thats awful actually i dont wanna think about that
YEA
What!? We see his tail and it sure as hell isn’t toes
That’s cursed
Headcanon, every character has regular feet just under the screen. His foot is under him, like where a snails is
astwo blease draw sir toeman
But it's regular
if anything he'd have like. a bunch of feather feelers as toes
BGFHBHG ILL CONSIDEr IT
HFNSMFMFMVN
i lov saps as like. basically wooden octopi
scuttling around on a mass of roots
"sap raiments have legs" they braided em up and stuck em in pants
i agree with this
Maybe saps are doing a diglett. They're all standing in holes that move with them, and sometimes the holes are where holes shouldn't be
sap outside in the dirt: around ur hight
sap inside on stone floor: oh god theyre so tall
Nah I was thinking the holes always there
Even when the blackwagon is boat form
Gilman, who has a vague understanding of fluid mechanics: ???
Saps can still go underground in the map where the floor is wood, right,
They can also go underground in the Book of Rites, which is imaginary
What’s under the imaginary book’s pages!?
Who said it's imaginary
Sandra hates volfred the most, bc after he's done trialing she has to replace all the pages
The Book arena isn’t actually imaginary, the Beyonder crystal just teleports you and makes you tiny
No, the book is regular sized
its another dimension imo
The book is exactly the size you see it, it's an abandoned art piece in a commonwealth basement made by a scribe
You'd be able to escape if only you thought to grab at the black curtains
Yeah this is the worst possible canon
Man, Sandra is going to be pissed if she finds out
sandra, falling out of the arena and into the cw: OH COME ONNN
On the plus side, it’s a whole world of people who haven’t been called idiots yet...
Sandra's epilogue leaves out the part where she realizes she was in the commonwealth the whole time intentionally
If Sandra gets out, she gets a pilates trainer license and proceeds to teach the smuggest, least relaxing class of pilates possible
omg
Hmmmmmmmm. You have some strength. But your squat form could use some attention.
are... are books in the downside made from trees? I know the binding is Yslach hide but the pages?
Yep
Volfred's reading off the processed flesh of his own kind
The dude is extremely mentally stable
i mean...we use leather
were all mamals dude.....volf prob views it like cow skin
trees are prob like cattle to saps
Didnt greg say smthn to that effect
It does make sense
hey. the best step in the tree to sap evolution was vicious hunter trees. thats some good stuff
agreed
i donmt rember if its canon or fanon but idc its good
its fanon gjfkgg
oh...............still,
Does anyone know if there's a list of all the Pyre character's birthdays somewhere?
yeah in the game
Sparrow made a nice printout with all the info
@wide river wonder if they're still up
don't seem to be
i'll grab it real quick
oh wow, thanks
oh nice
was june 16th, 837 a tuesday in real life 
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"thirsty for knowledge" doesn't really seem to describe iggy or manley
NO IT WAS A SATURDAY...
6/16/0837 was a saturday...
smdh sgg not doing their research
But it's after soliam, instead of common era