#pyre
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i thought sir gilman was like a weird robot for a solid day or two
until it was pointed out to me that he was distinctly wyrm-y
IF HE WAS A ROBOT THAT D BE REALLY COOL
YEAH I WAS REALLY EXCITED
idk how d he slither the way he does but i don t CARE
i mean how does he slither anyways...he literally swims through the deck of a ship
rites magic
carefully
nice moss
mud with every step squish squish
it's lu sclorian's root-steps !
AAAAAA IT IS
i could just imagine rukey running up to volfred and screaming "WHAT'RE THOSE??????????"
volfred got a billion mossy flip flops...one per root
remember when the 30 minute demos showed that there was a time limit to get to the rites
Wait, do saps even have feet?
now they do
i found myself explaining how much i love pyre to my new coworkers today agshkfkskdb
i love videos game
my ti’zo plush sits on my work desk now
AAWWW....watchin u work, snackin when ur not lookin
my imp ate my homework
me’me
ye'et
lo’ss
Someone in a local video game fb group posted that they don't like anything about pyre except the rites themselves and they especially don't like the book of rites so i posted a pic of me with my book and wrote "don't talk to me or my son ever again"
Correct response, IMO
Someone else said that Pyre is over-hyped
What the heck
It's different, and still worth the hype
some people hated transistor because it wasn't bastion, some hated pyre because it wasn't bastion
we call those people "wrong"
remember when pyre had you gather food and stuff on your way to rites
ok but there's a difference between "i didn't like the game" or "i didn't connect with the characters and lore" and "the game is over-hyped" because it certainly isn't
Teaser trailer dropped some 15 months ahead of the realease, I think
But other than that, I don't think it was in any way overhyped.
Don't expect more of the same thing unless it's a sequel
Pyre delivers on everything its trailer advertises and more
i bought Pyre barely knowing what it was 😂
If it was being overhyped, it's because people read into lines that didnt exist
i bought it because my friend sat me down to play it when i visited her one time haha
also yeah idk why people think pyre’s overhyped
it definitely isnt overhyped
just enough hype, maybe could even use a little more hype,
I mean," overhyped" is a completely relative term
yeah, tru 😂 and also a sgg server is not the #1 place to have an 'is pyre overhyped' discussion
It's entirely possible that the person in that Facebook group did in fact here way too much praise for a game that didn't click with them
haha i love you guys
Terms like "overhyped" or "underrated" are pretty useless for discussion, because they suppose that there's some universal reaction to a game
tru!
That said, I've always been disappointed that Transistor and Pyre didn't get a strongly following among the critics and communities I follow
I've seen a lot of "love the story and setting, but the gameplay didn't click with me" which is too bad. I love playing both of those games
But I also really respect that Supergiant makes games that are not designed to appeal to everybody. It makes them feel so much more specific and intimate
i feel the same
I TOTALLY agree!!!
@heavy hill Whoa, there was a time limit???? Ooooooo that's cool, I'd like to see the demo, that's interesting....wonder why they took it out?
in my opinion Pyre deserves ALL the hype because it's practically perfect in every way! ^_^ 😄
wait, are we talking a timer to get between rites or a timer during the rites themselves?
hm. i'm clicking through but i'm not seeing anything out of the ordinary
oh what this isn't the video I meant to link
that's just one with the E X A C T S A M E T I T L E A N D T H U M B N A I L
different video, you can see it in the bottom left corner https://youtu.be/XStZHGBN2vc?t=12m52s
Here's the first 25 minutes of Pyre, the 3rd game from Supergiant Games, showing off the story and unique combat mechanics. Subscribe to us on YouTube Gaming...
and an earlier video had a different icon for that I think
AHHHHG FGNFGNFG KFNGK FNG NFKGN FKGK
😭
I once saw Hedwyn's Status was "practicing his letters". I felt so emotional right then. It would've been neat if there was a section of the game/"mini-game", dare I say, where you COULD help them to learn to read and write. But I guess it could have been to distracting or random so I understand why one's not there, or maybe they just didn't think of it...
but still, that screenshot, Sparrow, makes me saaaaaaad ahhhhh
huh, i think i kinda like that there isn't a timer anymore. it seems like a minor detail since there isn't a lot of time between landing and the next rite, but i think removing it helps emphasize the journey over the destination, which i think is really important to pyre's story
did you figure it out?
Kind of. There are a few AI behaviors you can exploit on the highest difficulty as I recall
[coughcough] actually you know that conversation you have w/ volfred about reading the book? there's lines in the game's files that indicate you might've originally had that talk with hedwyn, or that it was at least considered at some point
plus don't people start learning to read after the ending?
Yeah I think if you get the plan to succeed you start teaching people how to read
anyone else Thinking
about Deluge
if I read the words “Thinking about Deluge” does that mean I automatically think about him because I read his name?
only if you know who deluge is
those who do not know deluge cannot think about deluge
i have delugions
don't we all
Not sure if this has been brought up already. I kind of love the fact that the characters aren’t fully voiced and we’re only given some little clues to how their voices might sound instead of translating for the player’s sake, we only hear their language. How do you all feel about that?
I love it too. Pyre problem has my favourite mumble-language in all of video games. The voice actors do an incredible job without too.
I wouldn't complain if Tariq read me a bed time story endvery night, his voice is beautiful
☝ i hope he reads the reader bedtime stories sometimes....OOOOO or the nightwings could take turns too, as they learn to read
that's a fantastic idea imagine all of them cramming together to learn with bed time stories
yes!!!!
hfnfngj pam makes stuff up when she gets to a word she doesnt know so volfred or tariq sit behind her and kind of politely cough when she does
Jodi's turn always involves Pamitha joking that the book is floating up into the sky cause she's so tall
YES
hat!!
ae reads everything out in syllables, even when she struggles over a wprd she keeps trying it
HIM TOO
he screees and kihis and scrooms about it and the reader and tariq know if he's reading it correctly uou
so good
gilman shouts every word and sometimes AND I CANNOT PRONOUNCE THIS ONE!!
and always pauses to comment on how brave a character is being or how silly and ignoble they are
YES
hdnfmgn volfred has a great voice for reading stories too but keeps going like "hm. i seem to have forgotten how to say this word and what it means? can you help me?" to force everyone else to read because he is A Teacher At Heart
perfect
the first time someone reads a story and it puts tariq to sleep hes absolutely touched (its jodi and her lovely voice)
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww
right after he wakes up and returns with ti'zo, already amazed that they went looking for him...
AWWW
stop, these headcanons are too powerful
bc he's always playing music for everyone else!!
YES!!!!
mae making up songs about the scribes and tariq telling her they are honored to hear it
their stars are brighter...
;3;
also since there was talk of voice actors earlier i have some Fun Trivia
hedwyn's voice actor also voiced asher in transistor
no wonder I liked him so much
would the reader reading the book of rites to the nightwings be like Bible Study But Cool
hfbfhgnhfhcbc maybe????
"and then the big bad archjustice said "no books allowed" and was nasty to all the good people"
(WELCOME TO BOOK OF RITES STUDY WERE ALL CHILDREN OF SOLIAM.... (wildly off key) THEY FOLLOWED THE STAAAAAARS BOUND TOGEEEETHER)
snorts stardust
hhhhh i forgot how sweet the vagrant song scene is...and his status immediately after is "staying out of the way" tariq sweetie no it was amazing
also. big announcement. sir gilman is excellent
he is
sir gilman more like sir goalman.....bc i wanna be just like him
eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
im already really overexcited about everything all i need to do is start talking in third person and get BUFF 💪
AAAAA
thank you caitlin 💃
Though Supergiant does not condone uh... stardust... snorting.
don't forget the ability to swim through floors, but your awesomeness level is already there so you're good to go
im currently having a monopoly on this channels pinnes.....pinne queenne 📌 👑
I've been rewatching Avatar The Last Airbender at the same time that I'm replaying Pyre, and it just occured to me that Dalbert and Aylmer are very remiscent of Iroh and Zuko
I think i could see what ya mean....
The insolent youngster and kind respectful old man, the adopted father bit
also, Sandra reminds me of Toph. Not just becasue she's blind, obviously, but also her attitude, calling your companions "idiots" etc.
Pamitha's much to cruel/useful to be Sokka, though. Gilman fits him better. Fish Sokka.
i dont kno anything abt atla but gilman is big useful lol
fair point
Oh yeah, Gilman is definitely Sokka
But he's the underdog. Nobody expects him to be useful but he is.
Pamitha's more like Jet maybe?
I think Tamitha is more like Jet....
Or maybe Korra
yeah that makes sense
Falcon Ron is defniitely the cabbage salesman
Oh for sure. Him being the cabbage salesman isn't even a debate. it's a fact.
I mean. Jodi is Katara. The mother of the group. And....Would Momo and Appa have counterparts? Cause i nominate Appa to be the Wagon. And if you argue me about this i'm calling Fae.
Actually...Oralech is probably the best Jet. Both of them are really angry, and constantly swap what side they're on. And both of them may or may not have died.
Actually I change my mind. Tamitha is Azula, and Pamitha is Mei Lee(I think I spelled that right) And...who deserves to be Momo Ti'zo or Fae? Ti'zo because mascot, Fae because absent minded and loves the Wagon. And most importantly, why am i thinking so much into this?
And the bond with the Wagon, Appa, of course. Now...who will Ti'zo be?
Aang HAS to be Hedwyn. The cheery young star of the series.
Wait Sokka has to be Rukey.
The original 3. Aang Katara Sokka. Hedwyn Jodariel Rukey. It works.
as far as original 3 goes, su works well too
garnet amethyst pearl -> jody rukey hedwyn
🎵 hedwyn, jo-dar-ryel, ti'zooooh and rukey! 🎵
'su' ?
steven universe!
Ooooooooh. Alrighty. I...i've never watched it.
you should!
if you want to, of course
it starts strong, gets kinda weak in the middle, and then gets strong again imo?
Ehhh. I don't watch** a ton of tv, and SU just hasn't been a show I've been interested. I..i feel like i had a show i wanted to watch but i don't remember what it was.
oh sure, thats fair!
Ti'Zo is Appa, Mae is Momo
Steven Universe is great!
I strongly contest that it gets weak in the middle though. I'd say it starts good and just gets better as it goes
Hey now. I think the Wagon being Appa has been decided already. The one that transports the gang, and the one with the closest bond to Momo/Mae. If you say it dosn't have character screenshots are coming your way.
Haha, okay, I concede
I'm enjoying these crossover talks so much
Volfred is definitely Avatar Roku
there's something weirdly poetic about a sap being a firebender
firebenders can get burned by their own fire just like anyone else!
also there's that thing about lu sclorian teaching saps that a fire isn't always to be feared, or something
Oralech seems more like a Zuko character tbh
Yeah but he's not part of the nightwings
I mean...
Grows from an outsider to a source of inspiration for the team
Is leading plot device
Has very rare and important powers
Is altruistic
Was Reader = Aang analogy ever in question
I guess not
plus if volfred is avatar roku...
wait
sir gilman is definatly zuko
he's trying to regain his honer
and he's fighting them at first but then joins them
it's perfect
Something that's only occured to me while watching the Pyre stream: why don't you ever interact with any of the other Triumvirates' Readers?
i mean, it's likely the other teams don't have readers
How do they conduct the rites then?
I'm pretty sure it's said in game that a reader is required
it actually doesn't seem like a reader is necessary
more like a coordinator for teams that can't entirely get their footing
it's possible the other teams have readers we never see, but it's also possible they just, don't have readers
the knowledge about how to follow the stars is likely passed down by word of mouth
you don't have to be able to read the book of rites to use them during the matches
I mean, the Book says that you do
You need to the Book to read the stars, and to conduct the Rites
you don't have to be able to read it though, or like every triumvirate with any illiterate members would be out of luck
+ Essential Structure
· The essential structure of a Rite shall be as follows:
· Where chosen by the stars, within the dark of night, shall two triumvirates stand in opposition, far enough afield, beside their consecrated Pyres symbolizing their resolve.
· In each triumvirate, the three shall act as one, to demonstrate their trust in one another, not just in themselves.
· Triumvirates shall endeavor to extinguish the Pyre of their adversary, whose flames are only to be staunched through a Celestial Orb descended from the stars.
· Whosever Pyre remains burning shall prevail. The triumvirates are to disperse.
· Exiles shall conduct the Rites bearing this Book, of which there are but forty copies, each bound in astral hide.
But also"
· Triumvirates lacking experience in this may designate a Reader, whose focus on this Book may help the others to coordinate.
Yeah, I noticed that passage
may designate a reader
But also Bearing this the Book bestowed on your triumvirate, you, the Reader, shall perceive under which stars you are to congregate.
Without reading the book, you can't tell where the Rites will take place.
So maybe some of the readers of the other Triumvirates also participate in the rites?
it's entirely possible that the other triumvirates have members who can read but are not Readers as we are
As opposed to being a Designated Reader during the rights themselves
Yeah, that makes sense
It's also implied that like, you don't necessarily have to have the book in order to find the stars
You need it at some point to tell someone how to get there, but after that it's possible that word of mouth would suffice
Volfred is a Reader but isn't actively using the book when he points out which star you're going to next
But like you said, he's a Reader.
Yeah but I do think it's possible that locating the stars is just a form of knowledge
Also, from the stream, Greg mentioned that one of the reasons the Commonwealth might have outlawed reading is precisely to stop Exiles from being able to conduct the rites in the first place, which makes a lot of sense
And Hedwyn implies the same thing when you first meet. "Can you read" is the first thing they ask you. Also, if a Reader wasn't necessary, Volfred wouldn't have askedc Hedwyn to find one
The Nightwings need a Reader for a number of reasons
The Reader isn't useful to his plan otherwise. He basically says "thanks, you can leave now" when you first meet him. I think that also strongly implies that a Reader was necessary
i think volfred asks them to find a reader because they need to be able to work together better than just "three idiots running around a field together"
They've been dissolved before; Volfred can't meet them in person yet to guide them; they need someone who can guide them in his place
they don't know how to do the rites
remember, volfred's plan hinges on the nightwings winning rites
or, well, winning liberation rites, for which winning normal rites is a big help
also the things ven says
True
Like I imagine if you got pulled into another trium you would be taught by the others who already knew how to do the Rites
yeah
well, in any case, I think we can safely say that a triumvirate that wanted to be succesful would want a Reader
the nightwings are starting fresh and none of them know how to do it and tariq's certainly not going to be much of a tutor
If, idk, the Chastity managed to liberate one of their members and had to find a new one, and they just picked someone up out of the desert, they would help train that person because there are a bunch of experienced people on the team
gkdjfhgj
can you imagine fitness trainer tariq
yeah, but they still need to be able to read the stars
you know what, why don't we just @ greg
Haha, you can if you want. I think the discussion is interesting regardless of his answer
and I'm pretty sure his answer would be "the game implies things and you can interpret them" anyway
@brisk whale is star-reading something you have to be a capital-R Reader to do, aka "have read and absorbed the content of the book of rites before", or is it knowledge that can be passed down through explanation and observation of the sky regardless of direct comprehension of the book
yeah i know but it's worth a shot 😂
i think we may have asked something like that before actually
oh okay
is sparrow the encyclopedia
nice
i am also an encyclopedia but i haven't read these in a while
NICE
iiiii do not believe we have or at least it's not in the word of geg documents
[breaks fingers] challenge accepted
after a quick search: if it's a question that's ever been asked/answered, it appears to have been so without ever actually using the word "reader" itself in which case i'm impressed
yeah lol i just did a search for "other triumvirates" and found a LOT of past discussion about this that never went anywhere lmfao
thanks i learned how to use advanced twitter search just for this
yeah, guess it's never been asked! weird, could've sworn it had been.
i guess we just wait now. tbh twitter is probably a better place to try to reach him 😂
Yeah this whole things falls into the category of things I've wondered about but haven't remembered to ask. Well, I do remember starting a similar discussion on soup theorizing a possible difference between people who can technically read words and capital R Readers, but it's not something I remembered to ask about during the stream
i mean, assuming that at least some other triumverates have Readers, perhaps it's rude to talk directly to the Reader of an opposing triumverate? I remember tindersnauf talking directly to you, but I can't remember if any other opponent characters speak directly to player character
🤔
i think the reader is often kind of off to the side and so might not be a target
the reason manley intruding was so rude is because he was interfering with roster selection...
oralech talks to you directly of course
maybe the reader's traditional place is off to the side
@spiral osprey Hey star-reading isn’t meant to sound like it’s magic, and should in theory be something practical that could be passed down. The Book contains other specific details that would make stumbling onto the Rites essentially impossible without the additional info, though, not to mention the need for certain materials.
If you know where to look, though, and the locations where the Rites are always held, you're pretty much good to go, huh?
Like if a triumvirate liberated their Reader, but everyone else in the triumvirate still knows where the Rites take place (because they've been there, probably multiple times) and the Reader informed them of where to look for the stars
that triumvirate doesn't have to sit on their hands until they find a new Reader
there's more information conveyed by the stars than location, presumably. there's always 2 triumverates that end up at a rite, and I figured only the nightwings got to choose where they went
although if star-reading isn't magic then maybe something else coordinates that
hmmm that's true
that might just be part of the technique, locating which star is yours?
Stars look different depending on where in the world you are. Maybe the Scribes can illuminate their stars in such a way that the triumvirates can see only their own path, based on where they had just conducted their last rite?
oooh that's true! parallax, right?
Yeah, I guess. Mariners navigated by the stars for centuries, right?
mhm
you need a huuuuge distance, like the diameter of the earth's orbit, to notice any parallax with stars just because of how far away they are. I would probably buy into some mumbo jumbo about light refractions because something about the atmosphere and maybe that's affected by your current latitude, etc
the answer to everything is "it's just Like That"
yeah the game's astronomy really isn't supposed be "realistic" here, it just is what it is
Pyre except Deluge orbits around everyone like a planet
One interesting thing about the Downside though is you have to go underneath the Commonwealth to reach it
If you think about that literally, it's entirely possible the stars aren't really stars at all, or at least are much closer than usual stars
imagine some poor intern flicking switches on leds based on some archaic chart system
I'm not sure how down the downside is. it's probably not an alternate plane, but there is some kind of threshold that manley almost passes if he isn't freed, and messenger imp can pass messages
it could just be a big hole, but that seems wrong somehow
there's no massive cliff edge, except maybe on mount soliam
Does the downside keep going, in at least one direction?
Deluge... in stunning 3D
i've never wished more that we had :blease: on this server,
arch you're killing me here
Has anyone earned the Master Conductor achievement? Heres' the text:
Prevail against a Master CPU opponent with six or more Titan Stars active (Versus Mode with default Masteries, Talismans, Pyre Health)
I feel like I just completed it, but maybe I'm misunderstanding the requirements? I did it with 6 Titans, no masteries, and no talismans.
AH okay, I thought it might be that.
you have to set it to "preset" rather than a numerical value
Are there default Talismans? Because I tried it first with default Masteries and chosen Talismans, and won, but I didn't get the achievement?
no talismans
Okay, that's really confusing achievement text then
yeah honestly the text should probably be more like "default masteries and pyre health, and no talismans" but [shrug]
Yeah that's annoying
Also, can you even change the Pyre health manually in Vs?
yes
okay
honestly it was kinda fun trying anyway and I think it made me much better at the game ( I've been getting my ass kicked in my True Nightwings run). ]
Really made me think about positioning a lot more. Also, I totally forgot that I could use Left Trigger to lock on with an aura cast. If I had remembered that, maybe I would have liberated poor Rukey already
True Nightwings mode is sometimes--mostly all the time--sooo insanely hard!!! I always get SOOO nervous when it tells me "Titan Stars MUST be used in order to proceed" and then I regret setting it to that mode, lol.....but simultaneously, what an absolute blast it is!!
Is Ron able to read the stars and figure out where the next rite will be held? 
Or is it pure coincidence that he happens to be present at most rite locations.
Ron is omnipresent. He has the capacity to be exactly where he needs to be because he is not bound by the traditional limitations of space and time
omG
he is though, Ron needs a lift in the blackwagon at one point.
he was testing you
ah, I see
i love volfred but hes a jerk
he doesnt know the meaning of the word
Haha, beautiful
Tizo: Downside debate champion 2017-2018
He just says "Skriii-hiii" and the judges all go home to rethink their existence
the trophy is bigger than he is
this discord is a blessing
By the Scribes?
Is Erisa Ron's mom?
i sure hope not
what
yes that s a kamic alright
Falcon Ron....
An unsupported and badly drawn theory of the Downside as it relates to the Commonwealth:
https://imgur.com/Brgxwoq
huh.
what if the world of Pyre is a torus 🤔
a waterfall on the outer edge takes you down, a waterfall on the inner rim takes you back up
though, how cardinal directions would work on a torus planet is beyond me
"i didnt say east i said weast"
nouth
this is all getting very non euclidian and I can't claim to actually understand any of the logistics behind this but I will support it
because some non euclidian junk has to be behind the fall of soliam part for this to make any sense
Hey, it works for me 
i love the label on the fall of soliam
i dont think you need any 4d problems for the fall of soliam
if the ascension thing goes up really high, it'll have a lot of potential energy as it falls and slingshot rukey past the disk world, and then back down, right back into his mother's arms
which would explain why the 'wealth doesn't immediately find the escapees forgiven souls
i say the world is flat and carried on the back of a giant space turtle
downsides all the way down
Only it's a giant slug, like Ron's dad carrying the world
r o n c o r p
what if the slugs are the precursor race
that all the other races evolved from
Harps think they’re all superior because they have wings
Little did they know their wings evolved from slimy little fingers
https://i.imgur.com/DD1kg8y.gif if earth is round, then how come map not like this
how did you even make that so fast lmao
It looks like something out of Baldi’s Basics
Reading this is very amusing, lol.
I was just thinking this morning...what DOESN'T Ron sell?! What doesn't he have in those enormous packs of his?
LOL these illustrations are amazing
oh man, i was watching someone play fifa yesterday, and i just thought a bad thought
what if pyre was 11v11 or something
as chaotic as that sounds i feel like it would be incredibly fun to play like with online multiplayer
it would play completely differently
each player has an "only i move now" button that can be pushed at any time, letting them move until someone else pushes the button
yeah the whole rule of only the person with the orb can move would be kinda bad because its now 1v11 instead of 1v3
curs would be pretty OP because of movement speed alone
wait worse idea
11v11 pyre but the fields are the same size
Battle Royal when
Archjustice Androbles IX’s Battlegrounds
50v50 Pyre same size maps deluge only no items
you've heard of True Nightwings mode, now get ready for True Deluge mode
Just Deluge
Everyone is Deluge
in the future, when barker retires from playing in the post-rites he made, he starts coaching for a bit, before realizing that the most important part of the rites has been so far unperformed.
he starts standing on a tall structure and mocking everyone in his best archjustice impression
😍
BARKJUSTICE
tbh tbh i really like the idea that postgame brighton reexiles himself and starts announcing barker's rites under a new name
Brighton With A Moustache: no of course i wasn't the archjustice. what're you talking about. impossible.
the sad thing is that it's entirely plausible he wouldn't have to change a thing
wouldn't even have to change his name
hfjfnfn just wear a different mask
he was archjustice androbeles ix, not archjustice brighton after all
yup...
hed prob hate looking himself in the demonized eye after so long preaching abt how its your sins manifested tho
so i could see him making masks n stuff for no real reason but to Deny Own Guilt Feelings lol
thing ive been thinking of is him gettin picked up by like, crones, who are all "lmao were equal down here, i dont kno a thing bout topside politics for the past 150 years you could be the aj and i wouldnt kno"
nice
maybe they switch out, give each other tips
unlikely friendship built on "hey, basketball rocks actually"
what if he already is a demon but his horns are the pointy star shape
Commonwealth conspiracy
Growing horns actually makes your voice higher pitched, ignarius was a bass before
barker, finding out his new buddy is the guy who exiled him: oh hellz yeah youre the guy that got me into sports!!!!
Whenever Brighton does barker a favor, barker tells him that he almost forgives him now, sarcastically
PERFECT
brighton teaches him vocal warm ups so barker can just go around makin noise at all hours in the name of not straining his voice at rites hfjgmvmb
So good
Brighton, after repenting for his participation in a cruel system, would rather announce in a more positive tone, and say nice things, but barker is all in on teasing anyone, even the audience, for their haircuts and whatever
hfhfncnvn all "YOURRRRE A BAD INFLUENCE ON ME, BARRRRKER"
I can just imagine Barker saying mean things about someone's hair, lol! 😂
'cause he's got amazing hair, everyone else's is terrible in comparison
So here's the big question
When you hover over the information for Demons, the quote is "All are welcome here, save demons such as you" from the sentencing of Chief-Physician Oralech
so was oralech somehow a demon before his exile, did they use the word demon in the figurative meaning for some reason? the commonwealth doesn't seem to have common (heheh) knowledge of demons, since Jodariel's position is kept secret after her return to the commonwealth, so it'd be weird to call it that
hmmm....i think its figurative
It's one of those coincidences that only happens in fiction
I was wondering about that too
i mean everyone on the government end knows about demonization
so it might be like, a wink-wink-nudge injoke about whats going to happen to a human exile
I love oralech's design, he's been demon so long he got another set of horns, that's probably the coolest thing ever, on paper
oh very much yeah
if anyone's curious as to the full text of the sentencing ceremony
Mercy is the beating heart of our glorious society. Mercy, even for the foulest traitors. As weeds take root in even the most splendid gardens, so too is no society immune to treachery. Though treachery - like weeds - can be weeded out. Expelled.
And so, to those who bear ill will, we swear this oath: All are welcome here, save for demons such as you. We shall not descend to your level. That which poisoned your souls shall not take root in ours. You are beneath contempt.
As mercy guides our hand, we spare your lives, but rid ourselves of you. Begone! To distant lands beneath our own, more suited to your kind. There, may you live out your days in penitence. May you assume the terrible, misshapen forms befitting your thoughts and deeds. May you finally see yourselves for what you are.
wowo where'd you find that
it's magic
sparrow knows all
Demon does make more sense in that
The term demon for people with horns comes from this speech, then
this speech is so.........much
like it shakes me to read it/hear it every time.
Anyone done art for bird woman with horns yet? Or are they immune?
i think its only humans but demonized other races would be ultra cool
from word of geg doc: It's implied it only seems to happen to humans (i.e. nomads and savages) for some reason. Though they have shorter life expectancies than harps, so who knows.
personally i've always loved the idea of other races being changed by the downside, but just not to the same degree as humans
Like deluge's eye condition
curs growing big ol saber fangs, thicker/coarser fur, big claws...... harps swapping the featherwings for batwings and Big Talons...... saps resembling gnarled, dead trees with twisty branches and losing all their foliage
isn't it mentioned somewhere that rukey's fangs were longer? or did I read that somewhere as an idea 🤔
doesn't ring a bell
fanfic then
i wanna draw some cur/harp/esc demons even if they dont exist
horned doggo pls!!!

Jomuer mentions something like that in the book. My coat is not as lustrous now. My fangs are long Though he doesn't specify if it's some kind of demonification process or not, it's on the Downside diseases part, who knows.
THANK
No problem 
It dosen't seem like anything happens to bog-crones, because udmilthe has been in the downside for 52 years and looks the same as any old bog-crone.
we dont get much glimpse of crone, actually
big visual difference between udy and berty
iirc
bertrude and udmilde both have horns, although they might be made of magic
what about milithe, does it ever show her without a mask?
they dont really show the scribes i think
or maybe thats what her face is like
i think the masks are based off of scribe faces, so that really is her face
ah
honestly? i love her look
Mood
crone is 2nd coolest pyre class, because it's not clear what makes a crone a crone besides like, big cloak and ugly face
they're frogs
they eat frog
they do?
cronch
new headcanon, crones are just french, thats what french people are like
bertrude says refers to her younger self as a "tad" at one point, that's where I was getting frog from
also crones are somehow related to wyrms
i dont remember if "crones are old wyrms" is canon or not but i love it dearly
yeah if you liberate sir gilman and have bertrude she'll talk about it
wyrms are old crones
they get over their emo phase
and shed their human skin (and cloak)
I think by related bertrude meant the species are related
like they evolved from a common ancestor or something like that
like harps and humans maybe?
wait do crones have human skin?
it's green isn't it?
bertrude looks like she has wood skin
she loved Volfred so much she turned into a tree
udmildhe has vaguely purple skin, but could just be dramatic lighting
Crones are wyrms whaaaat??? This is fascinating if its true! 😮 😮 😮
wyrms don't grow up into crones (like windbags in bastion), they're related like harps and humans are.
So cool!!!!!
I LOVE how all the creatures in Bastion are related like that, different stages, it's really brilliant!! 😍 😍 😍 
yeah I didn't realize that for the longest time
Ugh, my True Nightwings run is going so poorly that I might have to replay it immediately once I'm done just to make it up to all my friends
I let both Udmildhe and Manley get liberated (plus Tamitha and Barker, who aren't quite as bad). And poor Rukey has missed his chance I think 4 times now
Barker dosen't even want to go back
so sad
for both Rukey and Barker
but mostly Rukey
yeah exactly
He just gets up pees on something and is instantly banished again
(just kidding idk)
just saw the pyre vinyl art and am tempted to make a brutal legend mod where the player character is tariq
i swear tariq was described as being frail and maybe slender, so this buff arm sharp chin tariq is giving me life
a photo-realistic Falcon Ron
In brutal legend, the shopkeeper is ozzy Osborne, so that's an interesting reskin
I'm attempting to play pyre on true nightwings mode with all limiters and liberating everyone (except the ones I can't because of limited rites), so far I've been annihilated by both the Accusers and the Fate and have been verbally abused by AJ
Oooooo Tberton that sounds awful!!!! I always feel SO GUILTY after repeated failed attempts...poor Rukey...and now both Manley AND Udmildhe are free??! Oh noo!!!!
(Did someone just say that liberating the incompetent dolt Manley is worse than liberating Tamitha?)
👄 🥚 a.k.a. 🐐
That cover is so objectively beautiful

smash that like if u love volfred 👏 ☝ 🌳 im replaying and hit "what if...freedom means nothing at all" and his gentle "thats really sad" before he said his piece made me genuinely tear up
freedom to live without fear.....freedom to love
😭 😭 😭
hfhfjfnfjvnv
the second time he asks you if youre sure u want to stay......trying to be gentler this time and like "i dont want u to leave tho"........... i love my tree dad even if hes mean sometimes 😭 😭 💗 🌳
❗
he doesn't mean to be, he's just..... very focused..... sometimes.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl0Yne8Q-w4 has this been shared yet?
Happy first birthday to Pyre! There are certain scenes in the game containing many, many, many imps. To create the appropriate ambiance, we had to set dignit...
My true calling in life was to make those noises
why does this vaguely sound like the Angry Birds level end sound
angry inps
that's the secret way that they get the messenger imp across the downside threshold
giant slingshot
Aj rides the slingshot into work every morning too
Perfectly shaped for it
(It’s multipurpose)
aj doesn't know the messenger imp(s?) uses the slingshot, and sometimes wonders why there's a bunch of feathers scattered near the slingshot
rumor has it.....theyre his feathers
rumor is out- does aj is imp???????
brighton, or brimpton?
So here's a question (related to what's happening in the fan-works tab). The book of rites implies that there are other slugmarkets, but how come you only ever see ron?
-nurse joy situation
-ron killed them all and runs around impersonating them
-ron is the nightwing's personal merchant, other triums have their own
ron and rukey know each other
(shrek voice) ronkey........
i always figured it was just like, "hey we know ron has good stuff let's shop with him"
I always thought it because he's the one whose there
i always thought it might be because the rite've been gone so long the slugmarkets kind of stopped or set down roots or whatever
i REALLY love the idea that ron has normal stuff too and ppl are buying like, fabric and food and medicine n then some travelers roll up like "can i get an uhhhhhhhhhhhh necklace"
hfgdgjfghd absolutely
"youre gonna spend so much on that?" "gotta go fast dude"
gotta go fast dude
why did I immediately picture volfred saying that and then the scribes sending down sunglasses to land on his face
gotta go fast, my kin
hey ron can i have some uhhhhh magic dust
good, Volfred's base speed is ridiculous slow, he needs the boost
It's the slowest of all the nightwings
which is why I almost never use him to plunge into the pyre
GOD YEAH STARDUST
UR AN EXILE OUT THERE BUYING NESSESITIES TO SURVIVE N THIS DUDE NEXT TO U IS LIKE. WHATS HE GETTING, HIGHLIGHTER???? CONFECTIONERS SUGAR???????
is that a HEART???
"where are you GOING" "uhhh you know.....pit of milithe" "WHAT???"
do normal exiles even know about the rites?
do they all strive to be in a triumvirate? or do they go to rites as like sporting events??
i dont think so bc theyre tryin to keep it secret
so imagining the rumors is fun
"are they........is it a sports club? a book club? WHATS going on" "my cousin's gf's brother said he had a friend in the dissidents but idk what they do besides party"
i mean the dissidents just party, to be fair
something about running around in dresses under the moon? Isn't that how Hedwyn described it?
hfnfkgkgkgn "oh a dress up thing"
the imps all kno whats up and other exiles buy the tiny rites merch but they have NO clue what it is
just that imps make adorable little hats w stained glass patterns and want ur money
i still think it would be funny if exiles supported triumvirates like sports teams
“You last long enough in the Downside, you start to hear a lot of crazy things.” “One of the crazy things I heard one day is that there's a group of exiles out there fighting one another for their freedom... under the stars, while wearing masks and dresses.” “Everyone I was with just laughed. But something about the story stuck with me and I started to do some digging.”
you can't bring up "i don't quite remember this part of the game text" while i'm around and not have me go find the relevant piece lmao
I totally did just look it up on the text storage server, I just didn't follow up with the direct quote
i need ritesrumors fic sooo bad omg
mb ill flex my writing muscle later....havent written in months
I think the only thing funnier than treating the rites like sports teams is treating it like pro wrestling. Some people will be gossiping about something that went down at the tempers match last night, then some guy will be like, you know it's all fake right?
that's what makes it funny
they don't even get burned when they jump in the fire it must be fake
“but i heard this one guy got liberated last we-“
“FAKE, THEY GOT PAID TO GIVE US HOPE”
big hc i have is that erisa believed they kill liberated exiles and was ultra prepared to go up fists swinging
"have you SEEN a liberated exile???"
"you cant tell me they exist if you havent seen one"
(a few months later)
brighton: HEY NIGHTWINGS IM UR VOICE JUST WANNA SAY......HAHA ERISA
"haha sucks to be you doesn't it 😎 "
Then Oralech gets pushed off a mountain at the first opportunity.
somewhere i hav a comic draft of her taking brighton aside before a rite like "do NOT say u can read when u get back up they will MURDER U" and him like....lol ya ya
hfbcncnfh
u can pry "erisa and brighton were like siblings by the time brighton got libbed" out of my gnarled demonized hands tbh
"now theres a dude whos too weak to hurt me ever....nice,"
Getting that achieve for 200 pyre health with volfred was a bit of a pain.
Don't you mean... KAMIC
In fact I still dont have the achievement for 200 pyre health with volfred, because dunking with him is p a i n.
I try dis.
ur outta luck then hfmfnvn
level up his blink, get his talisman, also i'm pretty sure practice rites w/ the beyonders still count for pyre damage achievements?
I do love the idea that there's normal stores with regular people around, but rukey insists they go to smelly ron
one my favorite moments in pyre is when you go to the slugmarket in the Glade of Lu, and Ron's like hey Volfred.
wow, devs are active in this channel?
I still gotta complete my true nightwing run
those titan stars get
REALLY painful
The Practice matches don't count towards the achievements, but the Sandra's challenge match does, so you bank quite a few there if you can beat it!
I level up blink too. That's the way to go!
Pro strats with Morgan
getting his talisman and upgrading it really does help, if you're struggling to get the distance
Aw man, scribe talismans are way op
+100% distance on blink is very nice
Y all ever upgraded tizos before? Infinite flight
man, i got ti'zo's talisman and immediately after found enough stardust on a random event to get it maxed
Birdgirls can't even fly forever
Oh but the feather talisman is alright too
Deal extra dmg, and don't get banished
i did the last rite with all stars using ti’zo and his op talisman
I couldn't get into jodariels, but that's mostly because she just sat in the back to defend
just zip around and get everyone to chase you and eventually you can dunk the orb, rinse and repeat
I have no idea how to play jody the way she's intended to be played
I mean, I got the talisman, I just couldn't figure out what made it good
I never finished my play through and im wondering if i should just reset
i love hedwyn's talisman, because i got real good at powercasting with him
never could nail the timing on anyone else's cast, for some reason??
i wasnt able to get his talisman cause i libbed him too early 
You libbed him first? Even after he told you not to?
same... he went first
i got it later, though, in my evil run where i lost every rite
Nah, I tossed ae first. She just seemed like a worse hedwyn, but apparently she gets good later?
i libbed him second-to-last bc i loved him too much to lib him any sooner ;3;
oh, mae gets REAL good if you level her up
i always kept hedwyn to the second to last rite bc he was so damn reliable
i always release jodi first even when i want to use her more. i always feel obligated to
ae is INCREDIBLE
i held onto rukey and pam for as long as possible cause they were the only ones i was good at
I tried hedwyns tali in versus, it's real good
I freed hedwyn first on my first two runs
i never libbed ae cause i wanted her to be with her smol boyfriend
her final right-side mastery is infinite stamina so long as she has the orb
it’s absolutely insane
thats so broken lol
Honestly my lineup was always jodi, tizo, and whoever I was trying to level up at the time
i always used pam
combine that with her first left-side mastery, which removes the delay on jumping or sprinting (and you'd already have her first right-side master which does the same for her casting)......
cause the ezpz dunks
ti'zo's amazing
i’ve never liked using jodi but that’s just because i’ve never been a fan of playing slow heavy characters in Anything
im not good at tizo
Tizo is super busted 247 as long as you don't blow him up accidentally
my real ace though? gilman
splat it was rlly hard because i was attached to the characters after my initial playthroughs but... it was also. pretty fun
Same I never liked usin Jodi for scoring but defense she is amazing
gilman mains are braver than any knights
Gilman is fun to play but hard to get good at
never got the hang of Gilman
i just can’t use him correctly at all :(
i once gave gilman a fully-upgraded quickness talisman
my most broken setup was always ae, rukey and gilman
they don’t score as many points but they’re all so fast that it doesn’t matter and no one can even touch you
I always played tizo & pam, and then added in a third depending on who I wanted in
Love a Gilman build. I play a lot of games for mobility, and my favorite team was Zhae Rukey Gilman 🎉
that’s true
I love using Ti'zo because I love him Jodi because I love her and Gilman because I love him also
i also loved playing bertrude once i got her
that's the problem I just loved them all
bertrude's shotgun cast is Great
though i never really bothered using her talisman on her
Bertrude is one of my faves
bertrude is Powerful i love her
god i wish i could do that
omg i never tried that
my favourite character to use is ae but only once you get that infinite stamina
she’s fun otherwise but once you have that she’s... broken, basically
second is gilman because if you give him the right talisman he can be SO FAST
the issue is being able to control him lmao
buuuuut i have no rl friends that're into pyre :c
Bertie became a favorite after the talk that she has with Hedwyn where she's sleeeping but she looks dead
LMAO
only
hahaha
her little flip
I just love her
hey funny story my first time playing through pyre i completely forgot about the jump button and played through the entire game jumpless
it was Very Hard i don’t recommend it ever to anyone
wow yeah yikes I think I would have lost every rite
Challenge Mode
How'd you beat essense???
the real true nightwings mode
Real nightboys don't jump
NIGHTBOYS
confession: i havent beaten pyre
uhhhhhh i think my first time against them was super easy but i almost lost the liberation rite against them when i fought them again. it was so tough
NDNBSN
oh god, i hate facing the essence for liberation
I was sick when it released so I sat in my room and played it for 11 hours straight until I beat it and then cried, so I think I got the True Pyre Experience (tm)
I hate facing barker in a liberation
If you don't cry at the end of that game then u didn't play it right
oh i LOVE facing barker. mostly so i can listen to the incredible music
and he was my first and only loss my first time through the game
i threw the match against the essence so technically i didn’t struggle too much
I smashed all my ennemies
but also i played on easy
every supergiant game has made me cry during the credits
me too
oh big same
and sometimes before the credits, because y'know, can't have too much crying
in all my runs except for the true nightwings one, and that one was my designated “lose everything” one
i always start on normal and switch to easy if i stop having fun
because iiiiim baaad at video gaaames
pssst
@dusk current http://i.imgur.com/ssvqHj0.gif jumpy jumpy!!
.....why's she not jumping >:C
She's jumping for me!
ahh so cute
she
A flip babe!!! She jumps at the link, don't worry. 😄
discord's weird about gifs
i was just gonna upload direct to discord but then i decided not to
there we go now she's jumping on my screen.
She!!
all of them!
I love hedwyn’s little animation when he jumps into the pyre
it's required
but... they can't read
doesn't matter, still need the book
they can look at the pretty pictures
it's what allows the aura to be cast and allows the reader to conduct them
just wondering, what instruments were made to make the soundtrack path of glory?
is it lute + mandolin?
· Exiles shall conduct the Rites bearing this Book, of which there are but forty copies, each bound in astral hide.
· Exiles bearing the raiments and this Book reveal their hidden inner Aura, in the color of their flame.
· Exiles may cast their Aura through sheer force of focus on this Book.
Yup
HSJSGSJGHS
lmao just throwing the books instead of casting
i don't know what instruments path to glory uses but i do know that the accusers aren't cool enough for it
you get banished because you’re knocked out
true
if there are only 40, that means very few people have their own. there's 11 teams, each needing 3 to conduct a rite, so there's only 7 leftover that somebody can own and not hand over when it's needed for a rite
isn’t there like a whole stack of extra books in the nightwings blackwagon
come on it suits Lendel pretty well
maybe each member of the nightwings have their own personal ones
yeah i mean, they’re the nightwings. that makes sense
there are 10 members in the nightwings eventually, so that actually fits perfectly; but leaves the reader without a personal copy 😦
maybe volfred gave his up to give to the reader and doesn't ask it back when he returns to the rites
i can't find it ;A;
oh. it's bc i never made an actual edit
anyway this perfectly describes the celestial spike mastery
"orbs for banishing someone: any of them if you throw them hard enough"
lolol
I've been thinking, ppl at conventions could do that with fake books in moss
Dunno if that's the right word in english
Foam ?
it would be like exclusively long-distance LARPing
@river sedge @wide river On Path To Glory I used a harp doubling a dulcimer 😃
pretty! :O
When Sandra told me to leave her alone and go away I did
orb wife needs space
@mystic notch I guess if we’re talking instruments, did you use a real harpsichord for Grand Ceremony?
(did the Q&A already start? 😅 )
no
darn now i'm listening to path to glory and i want to play pyre but i have to hand in a paper by Monday
Well yea but Volfred was exiled because he read and wrote
So he might not encourage that kind of criminal behavior
if you don't hand your paper, you'll be exiled and can play Pyre for eternity 😃
Write the paper in the cover of the night
Dang i got so many ppl typing
@brisk whale Was so in character with those Imp voice overs! 
Hrrrr
would you say he was, imp character?
😐
No no you need to say he was...
as greg kasavinp?
Imp-ressive

Imp-ossible.

this is worse than the ron puns in the fan works section
Are you sure about that?
That sounds like a challenge
it is imperative that I tell you you're wrong @gloomy steeple 
Okay, you're right. just looked back at them and rem-imp-ered how bad they were
Imp-erative
yes
Is it a coincidence that the Q&A will be happening on Oralech's birthday? 😀
https://imgur.com/a/PmXETvH my friend just started playing Pyre! (after months of trying to convince him)
GOOD QUESTION...
LMAO
LMAOO
both
Even tho I don't remember that?
i dont remember it either lmao
I never got that event either. The love letter yes, but not in a ball of beetle 💩
what was the love letter for
Do you want to know?
Yas
it was mine, decreeing my undying love for sandra, a beautiful girl
I mean it's just a sellable
was it my letter to falcon ron
it was for Lendel
Q&A Question: Sandra dating sim when
I have a print of a fanart
it was from lendel, for lendel
i want to hug Sandra
I think Manley would be the one most likely to write a love letter to himself
It's not sending tho D:
it was a missed oppurtunity not letting us set Manley on fire
Ahhh yeah my discord doesn't want to send stuff lmao
I admit I hated Manley, but somehow he grew on me
Chahut Maenad is just evil clown jodariel and nothing you say can change that
you can only post pics in fanworks
Probably due to a Fanfic I read once
also should have given us a punch-out fistfight with Voice McWhatsHisName
I dodged the rules by using imgur... 😟
hacks
I was really sad I couldn't reply to that Archjustice
#fan-works and here it is
I just was playing versus with no titan stars, and it gave me the 6 titan star achievment for some reason
Pyre and Transistor are like
the two gmaes ive 100% completed on my own with no guides or anything
kingdom of loathing
a webgame w/ stick figures and some impeccable comedy writing
one of my Big Comedy Inspirations tbh
and writing inspirations in general
ah nice
i 100%ed pyre almost without guides
they also released a spinoff game on steam last year that's super fun
there werent really any guides when i played it, sooo
i think i made the first one on steam lol
West of Loathing, I've played that too
the file name for this picture is "rightswordguy.png"
but i looked up the description of one secret achievement so
the achievement?
yeah is that the one you had to look up?
mhm the imp one
right now I'm trying to get dames of the downside
I think I figured out who you have to use but I'm not sure
hormgb
hitch whats your guess?
nope haven't figured it out
I tried pamitha bertrude and fae
gonna try sandra instead of fae now
you arent close at all
youre uhhhh kinda close
i mean, somewhat
sandra udmilthe and tamitha?
the map is also important for this one
hmmmm...
no it isn't? i got it on a random map
is it Home Field Heroes?
no I'm doing dames of the downside right now
I'm guessing home-field heroes you need to do Isle of khaylmer
I played Pyre once yet
And all the achievements I have left are mostly versus mode
Still missing some campaign mode like mercy shown, fear not the flame and true nightwing
But I still have 5 more that weren't unlocked x.x
True Nightwing was a pain in the ass
hell i didnt even beat Oralech in the last trial
Oh dang
like
it starts you out forcing you to use 3 titan stars
and it increases that amount every time you compete in a Final Rite
so by the time you get to the last fight with Oralech
you have like
8 Titan Stars
that sounds insane
I started playing true nightwing and then I was like this is too hard
okay but heres something to keep in mind
you can get the achievement by just
losing every fight
it doesnt care if the story ends in a victory
as long as you just
yeah
get to the end of the story in that mode
I was planning on doing that later
just got dames of the downsife
*downside
now I will attempt to get the home-filed heroes
I only used the titan starts when I unlocked all of them
To complete the achievements
and tbf
Not sure how many they are now tho
i blame my failure to beat Oralech on who i had left to work with
12 titan stars in total