And it would seeeem
We'll, never be apaaaaart
#transistor
calm jackal
wheat bobcat
I will aaaalwaaaays fiiiind youuuuuuu
queen ivy
You can run but you can't hiiiiiiide tryyyyyy
still zealot
funky acoustic guitar noises
full peak
I will aaaalwaaaays fiiiind youuuuuuu
My mind everytime someone mentions Transistor
wheat bobcat
So I finished coming up with some Functions. Add(), Buffer(), Cast(), Crack(), Daemon(), End(), Equalize(), Hold(), Raid(), Suspend(), Swarm(), and Wave().
Add()'s first active use fires out an array of small homing projectiles which hit once. It's second use instead lays down a waypoint that can be warped back to for up to ten seconds. As an upgrade, it makes most Functions seek out enemies, and it's passive gives the player a 25% chance to evade damage when struck.
Buffer() sets out a field in which enemies are temporarily frozen, or it has the player stand still for a bit and instantly restore Turn(). It's upgrade makes most Functions freeze opponents. I haven't determined it's passive use yet.
Cast() makes a Copy that acts as a sentry turret, or makes a Proxy which Functions will channel through (Basically, shooting Ping() will have it also shoot from the Proxy). The upgrade makes most functions linger for a bit to deal some extra damage, and it's passive makes it so that all planned moves in Turn() happen all at once.
Crack() fires two vertical shockwaves one after the other. They can be aimed in different directions, or fired into each other to become one really strong shockwave. The alternate use is hacking an enemy, either rendering them temporarily helpless and harmless, or completely destroying them if they're health is at or below 150. It's upgrade lets the player perform most Functions twice in a row with no added cost or startup, and it's passive exposes enemy weaknesses when using Turn() (e.g: Ping is stronger against this enemy)
Daemon() temporarily absorbs energy around the player and then rapidly releases it in a big explosion around them. The explosion is bigger if they move a lot and/or absorb projectiles too. It'd other use projects four barriers around the player that deal high contact damage but only last for one hit each and go away after three seconds. It's upgrade causes most Functions to form exploding energy wells (So Jaunt() plus Get() and Daemon() would be awesome uwu). It's passive ability will absorb energy from an enemy if the player hits them, boosting the next attack used.
End() will temporarily cancel one of the struck enemy's powers at random, making them less dangerous. It's alternate use grants the player one second of invulnerability. It's upgrade causes most Functions to have that same cancellation effect. Passive isn't determined yet.
Equalize() is a large aoe attack that makes all of the struck enemies' life points balanced out, and it's upgrade makes most Functions deal damage equal to the last one used.
Hold() grabs and throws an enemy, and it's upgrade causes Functions to carry Targets.
Raid() launches out a large shockwave which hits a bunch of enemies and has a bunch of knockback. It's upgrade boost the knockback of most Functions.
wheat bobcat
Okay, am I the only one who gets the feeling Sybil had some kinda semi-romantic obsession with Red for some reason?
wispy stratus
no, people regularly complain about her being a psycho lesbian stereotype
it's basically pointed out in her data entries
wheat bobcat
Yeah, I was gonna say it was a little off-putting.
One of the basic rules is that, if you're gonna have a character in an already disenfranchised minority have a blatant and obvious terrible personality trait, you kinda have to have more than a couple other characters of the same minority that aren't portrayed with screaming flaws.
Like, if you're gonna give an already poorly represented group a character that serves as bad representation, you're gonna need to have more than a little good representation as well to balance that out.
stone shoal
trust me, there's been many a discussion here about that exact thing
it hasn't happened in a while, but there was a point where it happened once every couple of months
wheat bobcat
To be fair though, Transistor already has a rather small cast of characters and it's clear that Supergiant hadn't intended for it to come across that way.
And in all honesty, Sybil gives less of a psychotic feel and more of an over-possessive one, which does make sense given her meticulous and obsessive personality.
stone shoal
for sure, there was no intent but it's there nonetheless and supergiant definitely learnt from it 
wheat bobcat
So, from a storytelling standpoint, I can understand and forgive it as it does fit her character. And the fact that Supergiant has learned from that and fixed those issues in later works proves there was no ill-will in that. It was just an oversight that they didn't think would come across that bad.
wispy stratus
it is an older game to be fair as well
wheat bobcat
Ye.
And it's not really particularly bad given that Supergiant's always kinda made it a point where there isn't just a clear bad guy. The Camerata were inherently good and did a bad thing.
wispy stratus
the road to hell is paved with good intentions
wheat bobcat
Precisely.
Even with Bastion, both the Ura and Caelondia were kinda terrible people all things considered.
full peak
It is a bit surprising to me to see people reading Sybil as a psycho lesbian thing. I've always read her as another case of possessive stalker fan trope and Red's song for her makes more sense to me in this context
twin summit
it's a lot easier to connect when the other two gay characters in the game are also on the villain team (and also commit suicide and are called cowardly)
wispy stratus
also if you are familiar with gay culture and stereotypes and such
full peak
I'm not as familiar with this stereotype, so there's also that as well
hushed yoke
I didn’t even recognize any of them as gay or lesbian on my first playthrough and then looking through it on my second, I still didn’t see it, so I really am clueless when it comes to everyone talking about all these over-stereotyped characters
keen karma
^ I did see it on my later playthroughs, but I still didn't know this was an actual trope - apart from very obvious queer-coding villains, but I didn't see it that way in Transistor
white solar
Same I mean I can understand why some might be upset that their characters' weren't painted in the most positive light, but I never understood how they're reinforcing existing stereotypes..?
wheat bobcat
They're not exactly reinforcing them. It's more of an oversight in the writing department, but then again, Supergiant's team is relatively tiny so I'm not exactly gonna hold it against them.
hushed yoke
I guess I just don’t understand what it looks like in games like this
The Kendrells I thought definitely could have been brothers, even though apparently they’re not
And Sybil I never really noticed anything major at all about her
wheat bobcat
Mainly her lines of 'wanting' Red and numerous other notes of obsession.
The Kendrells I thought definitely could have been brothers, even though apparently they’re not
Their appearances, backstories, and Asher's way of talking about Grant more than proves they ain't related
hushed yoke
Idk I thought the way he talked about him was like a familial love and genuinely looking out for his “brother” but I don’t hang around gay people often so I’m probably just in the minority here
inland mirage
I've always found it weird that people get antsy that the gay/potentially gay characters are the antagonists
the antagonists are the only other characters
but also I'm not the most well versed in that topic so 🤷♂️
wheat bobcat
That's why it's not particularly bad with this one as there's already a limited cast of characters.
However, the main issue is that the LGBT has been demonized and vilified for decades. That's why it's kinda iffy to have the only gay characters in a work portrayed as villains.
flat quest
wait
grant and asher are gay?
i never really read their functions info pages and just assumed they were brothers or sth
sigh
ok dyno i wont swear
hushed yoke
Ok I’m not the only one lol
flat quest
AAAAAAAAAA
flat quest
dyno keeps deleting my msgs bc i used the f word
hushed yoke
Oh, just use duck or an alternative
cedar grove
please dont evade the swear filter, its easier to not swear :]
flat quest
lets agree to disagree on that
hushed yoke
Yeah, I don’t think duck is “evading it”, a letter-> number would be evading it
Anyways say what you will
flat quest
the camerata arent really villains, more like good guys w a bad plan and misunderstood by red and transistor bc of their prejudice and writing this suddenly made me realize grant and asher being gay and sybil being lesbian makes sense
or i might be finding meaning where there is none
hushed yoke
I saw them as good guys too, it’s the process that got out of control
Either way, incredible game, with or without representation of sorts
twin summit
while i think that the writing of lgbt+ characters in this game isn’t the best, i believe wholeheartedly that sgg has learned better and their writing has improved for it
see: hades
calm jackal
Maybe grant and asher should have kissd to make it more obvious
hushed yoke
I’m sure it’s better even though I don’t know where it is there either lol
twin summit
it's a lot more prominent in hades lol ||full on romance paths||
hushed yoke
The only romance I’ve noticed is Dusa’s shyness and Zag’s failed attempts at flirting with Meg
twin summit
my advice is to keep giving nectar to people 
(though if we want to continue this, we should move to the appropriate channels)
wheat bobcat
the camerata arent really villains, more like good guys w a bad plan and misunderstood by red and transistor bc of their prejudice and writing this suddenly made me realize grant and asher being gay and sybil being lesbian makes sense
I saw them as good guys too, it’s the process that got out of control
You're forgetting that the entire thing that caused this was 1) Sybil's obsession with Red and 2) Grant trying to assassinate Red.
calm jackal
Yeah, they're sympathetic sometimes but their plan definitely did involve killing 16 people
wheat bobcat
I'm not trying to say that Supergiant is homophobic or anything, gods no, just that there was quite a bit of an oversight.
calm jackal
I mean, sometimes you don't notice the toxic tropes you're playing into until after you publish I guess
twin summit
i'd call it a lack of awareness of social issues, that was later picked up
hindsight is 2020 after all
wheat bobcat
Ye
hushed yoke
Yeah hence why I'm not adding representation into my game since I know I'd just be slammed for doing it wrong anyways
calm jackal
???????
Why would that be an option
If transistor was just straight cis white people we'd complain about THAT
wise folio
calm jackal
Is that where this conversation is going?
I criticize things because I love them
If transistor was a bad game I wouldn't care how many gay people it had or whether they were treated fairly by the narrative
SGG has gotten better at representation
And they get there by being critical of the things they made
twin summit
i'm just skeptical of the idea of not having representation in your game when sgg is a prime example of game devs who have been slammed for doing it wrong, and then learned from their mistakes and did it right
being criticized is a good thing, it's not as if transistor suddenly became not-a-hit-indie-classic after these criticisms were made
inland mirage
i don't think they even were slammed, since I only recently heard that it was considered a little problematic
manic lava
representation is very important and you don't get a pat on the back for in putting in a minority character. it requires research, even just talking to people about their experiences. there's also sensitivity readers out there who will explore what you've made and help you craft more authentic and less stereotyped characters. if you can't do that, maybe you should reexamine your writing
wheat bobcat
Yeah hence why I'm not adding representation into my game since I know I'd just be slammed for doing it wrong anyways
@hushed yoke Here's how you should go about representation. For this example, let's say we're talking about PoC.
If you have a character who is on the side of good, and doesn't have a bunch of major screaming flaws, what is their skin tone? If they're white, then change that unless it's crucial to the narrative or message. Why? Because there's plenty of white dudes being the heroes.
Now, if you take a villain who's an absolutely horrible person, and then make them a person of color, that's problematic because people of color are already heavily vilified. Especially African-Americans in the current societal climate.
Now, if you have a group of good guys, you can have a few white peeps, unless that contradicts the story. No problem. A diverse cast of characters is never a bad choice. But unless you already have a decently large amount of good characters representing disenfranchised communities, you can't exactly have your bad people represent those, and you shouldn't have the minorities in the bad group outnumber the minorities in the good group.
hushed yoke
Yeah I get that, I meant moreso like lgbt representation since I have no idea about how to make it effective. In terms of skin tones and stuff, I already have the main party set up to include that
@wheat bobcat
wheat bobcat
Simple. Don't make your only LGBT characters villains.
And also, don't base their entire personality off of their sexuality or gender identity.
hushed yoke
I just don't know enough lgbt people to understand how to make it feel natural though
wheat bobcat
Okay. Think of it like this.
You've got this big domineering guy, right? Strong, silent type, but still a nice and caring guy. Protects his team. Vigilant, determined, chivalrous, strong....
Okay, you got all that?
hushed yoke
yeah
wheat bobcat
Now just slap on that he's attracted to men and not women and you're done.
hushed yoke
hmm
manic lava
i mean that's why you do research and get a sensitivity reader. it's ok if you don't understand, but there are plenty of ways to do so
calm jackal
If you're afraid that you've written something offensive by accident, you should definitely ask a couple people you trust
Yeah or a sensitivity reader
hushed yoke
alrighty then
wheat bobcat
Having a different sexuality doesn't change who you are. It just changes who you're attracted to. We have different types like straights, and we won't all be the same body type just like straights.
It's not all that different from being straight, we just have different people we fall in love with.
full peak
I just don't know enough lgbt people to understand how to make it feel natural though
@hushed yoke I mean, lgbt people aren't some mythical creatures that only exist in strange forests. They are still normal people, like you and me
wheat bobcat
Exactly
hushed yoke
I know, it's just that most of the gays I've met have made it their whole personality and I know that's not what I want to do in my game
wheat bobcat
IRL we do as a joke.
manic lava
yikes dude
wheat bobcat
But that doesn't mean we don't have actual personalities. Sometimes we just ham it up for fun.
hushed yoke
Man I shouldn't have brought this up I guess, every time I do I feel like all eyes are on me waiting for me to say something offensive
wheat bobcat
Seriously. Gay relationships aren't all that different from straight ones.
full peak
Not at all! It's better to ask in a "safe" enviroment than to not do anything about it
manic lava
we're trying to help
calm jackal
I mean I hope you got something out of this conversation besides "everyone hates me :("
hushed yoke
I did, you guys are much more forgiving than most chats I've talked in about this
wheat bobcat
Two men or two women can act more flamboyant, or they can be more down-to-earth.
Rather than trying to make their sexualities pertinent, write their relationships with other characters like you would with straight people.
manic lava
no one's waiting for you to say something offensive, but saying the gay people you've met make being gay "their whole personally" isn't a good look. gay people are allowed to talk about being gay as much as they want
wheat bobcat
Being gay or bi or pan doesn't immediately change your entire personality. It merely changes who you like. And with some characters, their sexuality can even fit with their personality or backstory.
hushed yoke
Well I know people don't like hearing that, but that has been my experience in terms of not online
Yeah I think I have a better idea now of how to write them in effectively
wheat bobcat
Take my character Elliot for example. He's been abused in the past, and has a hard time trusting people. That's why making him demisexual fits perfectly with that.
He can only really feel romantic or sexual feelings for a person he knows incredibly well and trusts completely.
manic lava
again gay people are allowed to talk about being gay as much as they want
wheat bobcat
That adds onto his trust issues and past in a way that enhances the flavor of the story, and really helps to make his relationships and actions feel real.
hushed yoke
I never said it wasn't ok for people to talk about it as much as they want, but when that's my only experience irl and I know it's not good to write a character like that, then I have to reach out, that's all
full peak
again gay people are allowed to talk about being gay as much as they want
@manic lava sure they are, but that still doesn't make them interesting people if that is all they talk about
calm jackal
There's people out there who say offensive things and pretend that they don't know those things are offensive. It's difficult to tell sometimes whether people are approaching this subject in good faith or bad faith. That may have been why you've seen bad reactions in the past
People dont owe you being interesting
wheat bobcat
People dont owe you being interesting
Amen
full peak
No, I suppose they don't. I myself am quite boring too
hushed yoke
I know plenty of uninteresting people lol
And none of them are really a "friend"
Mostly acquaintances
wheat bobcat
sure they are, but that still doesn't make them interesting people if that is all they talk about
Actually, making those jokes kinda helps us feel more comfortable.
full peak
That's great!
manic lava
being gay is often a big part of a person's identity because we face so much prejudice
wheat bobcat
being gay is often a big part of that person's identity because we face so much prejudice
Wait
'we'
A fellow gae?! :0
manic lava
big ol home of sexual
wheat bobcat
Ah, yes, here, have choccy milk
The utter elation one feels upon finding another gay online is just
white solar
wow I missed a bit lol
wheat bobcat
yes
white solar
also I meant to say Kendrell instead of Royce in my last message, it's just that people talk about Royce the most so I automatically typed his name
that is all
I still want to see Asher Kendrell as a Processed boss with his processed cat companion growing big and evil
wheat bobcat
I just wanna see Asher not look and sound depressed-
white solar
still hoping someone draws that
Asher and Royce look and sound like me so I'm fine with that lol
by that I mean moody and dejected
wheat bobcat
My ONLY problem with Transistor
Asher is not only a villain, he commits suicide
My best friend since I was seven and current boyfriend is named Asher-
wheat bobcat
It is, it's just...
I don't wanna think of my bf and bff dying ;-;
cosmic hollow
Two men or two women can act more flamboyant, or they can be more down-to-earth.
Rather than trying to make their sexualities pertinent, write their relationships with other characters like you would with straight people.
thisssss. just write them as you would any other character, ezpz
we rly do be like dat
wheat bobcat
Precisely
white solar
My only problem with Transistor is I was really looking forward to fighting Asher and his creepy ass cat in a boss fight and I just found him ||dead||
wheat bobcat
I friended you just for that and your pfp-
cosmic hollow
🤠
white solar
My only problem with Transistor is I was really looking forward to fighting Asher and his creepy ass cat in a boss fight and I just found him ||dead||
It's the only reason why I rate Transistor a 9.5/10 instead of a 10
wheat bobcat
It's also just kinda weird to find a character that shares an uncommon name with someone you know very closely.
white solar
🐱 👨🦳 Asher
cosmic hollow
rly wanted to meet him,,,
white solar
same
It's also just kinda weird to find a character that shares an uncommon name with someone you know very closely.
Well here's hoping I find a significant other named "Red"
wheat bobcat
That's also one of the same reasons I can never EVER play Soul Reaver.
I share the same name as the protagonist-
wheat bobcat
Raziel.
inland mirage
while it would have been cool to meet asher I can totally understand why we don't
he doesn't strike me as the fighting type and he did just, yknow, condemn all of cloudbank to death
wispy stratus
@wheat bobcat i can't believe it took you this long to notice that this server is stuffed to the brim with gayness
full peak
rich bone
So I haven't actually played Transistor, but listening to the Soundtrack, I think this is my favorite.
https://youtu.be/41tIUr_ex3g
edgy saddle
I SEE THE SPIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINE OF THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD
Thank you Darren and Ashley for this music once again
calm jackal
ah they're SO much better in context
rich bone
Now if we could just.. combine these two songs that'd be cool. 
https://youtu.be/f9O2Rjn1azc
white solar
Play the game NOW 
(I'm jk everyone is probably busy or has their own reasons for not having played or seen certain things and that's fine but Transistor is a great game just sayin)
hushed yoke
No it's not ok, it must be played immediately
echo sedge
Better play it when you have time to experience it properly rather than rushing it.
wheat bobcat
My top three are always gonna be Forecast, We All Become, and She Shines.
full peak
When does She Shines play in the Apple TV version? I wish it was also added to the other versions of the game
wispy stratus
it should be in the game files for all versions as a bonus
stone shoal
^
wispy stratus
i think it just plays in a trailer or loading screen somewhere
full peak
Oh
stone shoal
it doesn't play in game if that's what you asking however
the trailer songs are 'we all become' and 'old friends', depending on the trailer
queen ivy
I think She Shines plays while you are downloading Transistor on Apple TV
if I recall it being said so here way back
still zealot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGMWL8cOeAU
definitely my favorite
I'm a sucker for all things Sybil~
flat quest
sybil is a nerd that dies way too fast
lunar mesa
to be fair she just sat there waiting for red to return
flat quest
she could at least put up more of a fight to make the waiting worth it
lunar mesa
i died the first time i fought her
flat quest
understandable, she does way too much dmg in a single attack if u dont know how to fight her
wheat bobcat
I won my first time
still zealot
I think I won my first time
honestly idek why I love sybil so much, but gee-darnit I do
wheat bobcat
She's just a pushover tbh
I want her to have, like, at least two attacks
Transistor 2: Where all the bosses are Bloodborne levels of insane-
lunar mesa
give me the tea on sybil transistor
flat quest
so eventually he will best me
still zealot
I mean, have y'all ever had a character you just inexplicably love despite having so little info on them?
flat quest
royce
wheat bobcat
Farrah-
still zealot
but we get so much more about royce than say Sybil
wheat bobcat
I'm gay and I will never doubt that, but I'd so smooch Farrah.
She just seems so nice and adorable and she looks like she's made of cotton candy-
lunar mesa
the spinoff is just watching royce suffer because he is the only one with a braincell and when he's not doing that he's being a gremlin
calm jackal
You know what character deserves more love? Facsimile
calm jackal
The character who's not a good enough artist to be murdered by the camerata
What's HER story
lunar mesa
which one is her
flat quest
i always thought facsimile was sybil's stage name
calm jackal
I don't know that sybil is a musician?
still zealot
I don't think she is?
calm jackal
Could be true
lunar mesa
OH IS SHE THE ONE YOU VOTE AGAINST
calm jackal
Well, if you're a monster you vote against her
flat quest
voting against facsimile is for nerds
still zealot
she does lose the vote either way
calm jackal
MY red always votes facsimile
lunar mesa
imagine voting for someone who's been absorbed by the process
wheat bobcat
We don't actually know if she has tho
flat quest
she found another transistor and turned out to be better than red at using it
lunar mesa
ok
but at the end everyone is gone but red and royce
wheat bobcat
She was Red's side-chick-
lunar mesa
ffdsjklfkldsfjkldsajfkl;dasjfkldas
wheat bobcat
This is canon now-
lunar mesa
i wasn't ready for that comment
flat quest
then who was sybil
flat quest
now i want a drawing of red hugging a sybil bodypillow
lunar mesa
grant and royce had to deal with sybil and asher's stupid implusive ideas
wheat bobcat
Switch Asher with Grant and Royce because Asher just seemed DONE with everything all the time
still zealot
we need the one meme of "this is my boyfriend [x], and this is his boyfriend [y]"
wheat bobcat
But with like, twelve boyfriends
wheat bobcat
Yup
lunar mesa
cloudbank is just gay
still zealot
people who ship in a nutshell
wheat bobcat
me
lunar mesa
there is no heteros in cloudbank
still zealot
also it feels funny to talk about transistor when actually writing code
flat quest
everyone's bi in cloudbank
wheat bobcat
There is no heterosexuality in ba sing se
lunar mesa
fkjl;jklsd;afkldasjklf;adsjkl;
wheat bobcat
I've nearly killed you twice now
still zealot
OH GUESS WHAT JUST CAME ON IN MY MUSIC PLAYLIST
wheat bobcat
Beyond the Bounds-
lunar mesa
we become or in circles
still zealot
"I will aaallways..."
wheat bobcat
No
twin summit
There is no heterosexuality in ba sing se
bi sing se?
lunar mesa
this channel is just has all the braincells right now
toxic marten
would bi sing gay be pushing the joke?
wheat bobcat
Not at all
twin summit
bi sing gays are just theatre kids
lunar mesa
i mean
your not wrong
wheat bobcat
'Nother idea for a team shooter character: Scientist who was nearly finished on creating another Transistor. Just before she could complete it, the Process broke loose. In her final moments, she grabbed a Diode and shoved it on, immediately activating it.
And then it all went dark.
Septrmber 27th. 7:42 AM. Exactly twelve hours the Process struck.
She wakes up, half-alive. Her limbs and abdomen is heavily processed, but still intact. That's the least of her concerns though.
Because pierced through her stomach is the proto-Transistor she'd been working on.
Her power is immunity to the Process. Turned it on a bit late. The Transistor embedded into her gives her the capacity to control it.
A champion who's power is using the Process as she pleases.
shut plinth
"I will aaallways..."
@still zealot love that Song ❤️
still zealot
💞
prisma mica
risk() was the longest 5 encounters of my life
actually 6 because i forgot to turn on all limiters and did the first encounter with 9 limiters
made me realize just how many encounters in the game are "2 copies of new enemy type + endless amount of weeds spawned by that one limiter"
wheat bobcat
So basic premise for Achieve is that there's three main forms of gameplay. General matchmaking- this will be your different gamemodes for fun, practice modes, ranked gameplay, and custom rooms.
Then, each character will have an individual campaign mode regarding their past with each one ending with them getting the Transistor and reshaping the world.
And lastly, community mode. This is where the customization gets really heavy. Players can create their own gamemodes and maps using this, essentially a sandbox for the game.
But as for the characters, each one is rooted into a different aspect of humanity and how we've evolved and changed as we've adapted new sciences and technologies, with their personalities being rooted in that or what became of that.
For example, Elizabeth is a representation of not only the invention of the locomotive and with it thermal-based power sources, but also the beginning of a large industrialization era, which is shown in her headstrong and pioneering personality.
frank minnow
If you were to play Red in DnD, what spells would you use for different functions? So far I'm thinking Eldritch blast for Breach(), Misty step for Jaunt(), Slow for Turn(), Lightning lure for Get(), Thunder clap for Tap(), Crown of madness/Charm person for Switch(), Find familiar for Help(), Flaming sphere for Flood(), Invisibility for Mask(), Hex for Void(), Glyph of warding for Load(), and Mordenkainen's private sanctum for the backdoor.
inland mirage
red would absolutely be a hexblade warlock
I don't remember spells off the top of my head though
patent marsh
red is a commoner with a magic sword
but it's very very magic
gotta keep that "it's not her they want, it's her sword" theme
still zealot
I mean, that's the same thematic as hexblade warlock
warlocks have zero magical prowess themselves, it all comes from their patron
in the hexblade's case, said patron just so happens to be a weapon
frank minnow
I'm just trying to think of some way to do it from an balance standpoint - hexblades can't use their weapon as a focus until they're level 3, and a level 1 character really shouldn't have a powerful magic weapon
inland mirage
well, your character had a great career as a bard....
calm jackal
if she had her voice, she'd be casting vicious mockery every round
especially at royce
white solar
oh gosh now I'm imagining how Transistor would have went if Red had her voice the whole game
I'd imagine it would have played out exactly the same but with Red making a lot of quips throughout each stage
I need it
shrewd sluice
Asher: "everything we did, everything we're doing, is for Cloudbank"
Red: "COULD'VE FOOLED ME BRO"
prisma pelican
Hey, uhm, i just finished Transistor some days ago and wanted to talk about it with someone
Anyone, really
So here I am, and I'm not a native speaker sooooo, please expect a lot of orthographical/grammatical mistakes:
So I thought it was going to be about politics (mainly) which is good but also quite cliché. And then they introduced THE PROCESS AS A LIVING SENTIENT SOMETHING AND I JUST LOST IT. IT'S AWESOME. And then every function used to be a person and I had to get everyone and cry over every single story.
I thought I would hate The Camerata but i kind of fell for them???
I mean, I cried so much for Asher???
And then the end
oh boy
Ngl, Transistor was the 5th game i have ever completed in my whole life
And I cried so damn much. SO. DARN. MUCH.
edgy saddle
Welcome to the club 
. Everyone here can pretty much relate with you right now
white solar
You are now part of the cool kids club
People ask me, "oh you're impersonating Royce, the guy from Transistor who talks like he's given up on life?", and I'm like yep. Little do they know I'm not, I just always sound dead inside, and even littler do people know, no one actually asks me that.
hushed yoke
Sometimes I talk in his choppy and oddly suspicious tone just because I know no one around me gets the reference
And wait, 5th game ever?
That's pretty crazy sunklair
calm jackal
well, 5th game completed, which might be around where I was at
the... transistor. what can it do, what can it really do
it can. build a bridge
hushed yoke
Even though I think Hades has the best voice acting out of any game I've played, transistor is definitely second
It feels so much more real than most voice acting in games, which is typically like, "yep I'm recording these lines one at a time and you can tell"
calm jackal
royce is so human yeah
frank minnow
I really like how in all the trailers they hinted at Grant being the final boss only to have him die off screen
It's such a good manipulation of expectations
drifting timber
honestly even in the game itself he’s presented as the big bad haha
i remember playing for the first time being like “oh i’m gonna fight that one at the end right” and then seeing what happens to him like “oh”
manic lava
yeah i was totally prepared for a big boss fight
prisma pelican
well, 5th game completed, which might be around where I was at
@calm jackal No, i mean it. I couldn't afford videogames before xD
You are now part of the cool kids club
@white solar First time ever, what an acomplishment
i remember playing for the first time being like “oh i’m gonna fight that one at the end right” and then seeing what happens to him like “oh”
@drifting timber I was completely shocked by that! I can't believe I even cried for them? Oh dear.
viral token
Yeah, it's an incredible part. The BUILD UP is just INCREDIBLE. It's really shocking no matter how many times I play it, even if I know it's coming, it still shocks and unsettles me. The world and characters in this story are so REAL. ❤️
flat quest
@calm jackal No, i mean it. I couldn't afford videogames before xD
@prisma pelican bro i feel that
not being able to afford recently released AAA titles made me an indie game nerd lol
woven spruce
If you were to play Red in DnD, what spells would you use for different functions? So far I'm thinking Eldritch blast for Breach(), Misty step for Jaunt(), Slow for Turn(), Lightning lure for Get(), Thunder clap for Tap(), Crown of madness/Charm person for Switch(), Find familiar for Help(), Flaming sphere for Flood(), Invisibility for Mask(), Hex for Void(), Glyph of warding for Load(), and Mordenkainen's private sanctum for the backdoor.
@frank minnow ive personally read her as a bladesong wizard
turn() and bladesong both involve maximum n y o o m
subtle pagoda
I think this makes Red an Archfey Patron Warlock from the combination of spells?
white solar
not being able to afford recently released AAA titles made me an indie game nerd lol
me
prisma pelican
not being able to afford recently released AAA titles made me an indie game nerd lol
@flat quest BIG SAME, the economy in my country doesn't help as well lol
Yeah, it's an incredible part. The BUILD UP is just INCREDIBLE. It's really shocking no matter how many times I play it, even if I know it's coming, it still shocks and unsettles me. The world and characters in this story are so REAL. ❤️
@viral token FOR REAL. I asked some friends to play it too, they're too heavily into AAA games.
And I want them to love it because they can apreciate games for what they are, but haven't really played a lot of indies
full peak
BIG SAME, the economy in my country doesn't help as well lol
@prisma pelican I feel you, mate
viral token
ohhhh man @prisma pelican !!!! I hope they play it! They absolutely must!!! SO MANY "indie" games await them--so much greatness!! Starting, of course, with SG!!! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ You must get their reactions and then tell us all about it!! 😄
rain wing
I could never get any of my friends to play this game no matter how hard I try. They don't know what they're missing
white solar
Lol same
Actually the reason I was put off so long from playing this game was because my friend played it a long time ago for like an hour, and told me it was boring
then I played the game years later and I was like ??? wha
why did you subliminally prevent me from playing this masterpiece
prisma pelican
||Got the second ending||
||Said that I should have never talked about it||
(END SPOILER)
And the other actually played Bastion so I hope he finish this one
wispy stratus
@prisma pelican https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/360022320632-Spoiler-Tags- you may find this useful 
prisma pelican
THANK YOU! I just started using Discord
wispy stratus
languid trail
second ending?
manic lava
oh nice
wispy stratus
i wanna paint it
cunning sentinel
Stl?
full peak
ooh
umbral oasis
I’ve never been so tempted to get a 3D printer
oak thorn
crude bolt
the printer I got is only 200 dollars
still zealot
yeah they're definitely dropping in price and increasing in availability
cunning sentinel
I’ve been using a ender 3 for a while. I’d highly recommend it, especially with its price
Also ty for the link, can’t wait to print this out!
brittle yacht
Does anyone know if I can get the FLAC version of the soundtrack if I bought it on Steam?
calm jackal
Yep, just contact support with your proof of purchase
brittle yacht
Great, Thanks!
full peak
Hello, will Transistor ever be ported in Android?
crimson haven
I haven't played transistor but hello, hi there, I have been stuck listening to We All Become for a hot minute (several minutes)
edgy saddle
Have you Becomed yet?
crimson haven
A fan? Yes, pft bfjej
edgy saddle
Nice
white solar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688662242190688276/759245096821588018/IMG_20200926_094805.jpg
I still can't get over this picture, I've looked at it for three days straight uninterrupted
(artist @katribou on twitter)
dry fulcrum
🤣
wispy stratus
their tumblr with that pic was linked recently here i think?
white solar
yeah the context is something like "POV: you're a junction jan's employee"
white solar
same
hollow imp
Is there a way to change the subtitles languages on the switch version without change the system language?
dusty roost
is it possible to unlock transistor frame cap
sage tangle
How often should you be using the Turn feature?
Because I find myself just smashing most things in real time, but there are a few that are obnoxious like the Jerks and Sybil
manic lava
i used turn() every fight, although i used spark() in the beginning before the difficulty jump
sage tangle
I gotta get used to it. How do you handle the recovery time?
calm carbon
jaunt() and scream
calm jackal
it's important to remember you dont have to use the whole turn() and if you use less than the whole thing you have less recovery time
also, if you cant quite line up the shot, you can exit turn with 0 moves and have no cooldown
and then turn again half a second later when things have moved a bit
avoid ending your turn by jaunting away, because you can just jaunt away in real time
sage tangle
Gotcha.
Just running into the issue where I can't willy-nilly combine things to unlock their info and still get thru fights easily
sage tangle
Obviously lore
They've already won if I can't find out how some fake person generically disappeared!
white solar
I love the artist that makes those comics, they have a lot of great ones
sweet briar
when is their marriage
stone shoal
@sweet briar #fan-works is the best place to post this kinda stuff ^_^
(still kinda relevent here, moreso for future)
sweet briar
OH right
I will say it again
this game made me cry so hard
also this is 100% boxer
patent marsh
Boxer when drunk on Spine vibes
unreal frost
this transistor content is like a serotonin booster shot i stg
lunar mesa
its either super cursed or extremely wholesome and there is no inbetween
little pagoda
I also tended to use Turn with no moves when I got overwhelmed - when a lot of stuff was happening and I knew i would panic and make a mistake
I just turn'd to breathe in and out and better see the situation
charred wedge
violet crane
i miss transistor
wispy stratus
play it again?
white solar
same. same.
sick tendon
once in a blue moon i get the longing and i boot it up again
and then i cry because im still destroyed emotionally
violet crane
i think about it a lot especially since ff7r dropped lmao watching cloud drag that sword around just reminded me of red so much transistor was so fun just the entire game was soooo 😩
white solar
what
inland mirage
how
white solar
I mean i could do that on recursion but first playthrough? what
umbral zealot
sometimes i just think about the incredible naming conventions in transistor and i have to take a minute, they're so good
heady basalt
Hi I just got bastion and transistor today and its cool seeing some of the transistor stuf fthat became core mechanics in hades
but I have a couple questions how often does transistor save, and is it like hades where its run by run?
oh and are limiters good or bad, they seem confusing
final helm
Limiters are Transistor's version of the SGG adjustable difficulty!
iirc it auto saves when you change screen but I may be misremembering. There are no runs, it's an old-fashioned single-player campaign, however short.
heady basalt
Cool! I'm enjoying it transistor is fun
final helm
It really is! Fantastic gameplay and everything else.
heady basalt
its a lot more difficult than hades
inland mirage
I believe it saves when you activate an 'access point' where you swap out your Functions
split ginkgo
^^
shy laurel
hey someone there
inland mirage
no we're all gone
brazen olive
i've been meaning to ask for a long time but is there a dev around who'd know why a certain name was used ingame
wispy stratus
probably the writer, greg
flat quest
i want a seperate campaign in transistor where red gets integrated into the transistor and blue loses his voice
noble portal
I still inwardly pine for a run with Royce narrating instead of Blue. I'm curious what he'd have to say during your walking tour of Cloudbank
wheat bobcat
Fun fact, during your first recursion, the "We're not gonna get away with this, are we Red?" is in Royce's color- not Auden's.
inland mirage
and is also in royce's voice, which is where the desire for a royce-narrated game probably stems
(i think that'd be neat too)
wheat bobcat
It makes you wonder why on Earth Royce would say that to Red
twin summit
the infinite loop theory is one of my favorites
noble portal
I know right? I must know!!
Not just the occasional comments as you hit landmark but the comments on the polls/answers too
What's his favourite flatbread, SGG, I must know
clever silo
I started my 4th recursion recently and forgot it started with Royce’s voice. His voice acting is incredible
or 5th? I forget. Never really played with limiters so I’m playing with all of them on now. Going for 100%
little pagoda
Im just glad he's still alive
Sort of
Not really
But sort of
I still inwardly pine for a run with Royce narrating instead of Blue. I'm curious what he'd have to say during your walking tour of Cloudbank
@noble portal
- gets excited about buildings
- sasses your bad decisions (What were you thinking, Red?)
- can actually speak in Turn
- is not a fan of Luna initially but ends up liking her a lot
- goes quiet when you see the Kendrells and doesnt speak for a while
- the UI doesn't say
Process terminated: Cowardswhen it's Royce who's in the transistor
noble portal
Seems about right
noble portal
Oh no... what if the combat card that comes up after ||you grab Grant and Asher’s traces|| names the event as “Old Friends” 🥺
I was also thinking he’s probably aware of the recursion? Maybe he’s coy about it for most of the run and only occasionally says something that would require some meta-knowledge, but drops all pretence and complains about it when the Spine shows up
graceful flower
God i would LOVE alternate transistor voice options. Would probably be nonsensical story-wise but it'd be a rly fun addition. Hell, I'd probably pay for DLC of it. Imagine all the sass uncorrupted Sybil would give.
full peak
Yandere, yeah.
still zealot
That's definitely more appropriate than tsun in any case
I know there's a couple more than the two but those two are used to cover like 99% of cases lol
noble portal
I mean... non-processed Sybil might (hopefully?) lean more tsundere?
full peak
She lied to the rest of the Camerata, telling them Red was alone at the Empty Set the night she was attacked. It was her intention that Mr. Nobody would be killed leaving Red for herself.
noble portal
I'm more just being hopeful
I... want to have some faith in Sybil. But I fully understand the reasons for her actions
inland mirage
sybil's the only member of the camerata who was outright selfish and """evil"""
yeah royce is like "hmm we murdered people to get better at architecture" but he at least had a warped version of good intentions
wheat bobcat
And Asher had this overall devotion to Grant who's goal was to fix the issues in society
Sybil's was "I wanna be popular heeheehoohoo oh look protagonist material"
calm jackal
What if you could play as sybil...
She has the cool umbrella, a whole aesthetic
She's to some degree the best character
wheat bobcat
When you take away the accidental flop in her overall character, yeah, she's nifty, but like... her only attack is stabb
calm jackal
What if she gets the transistor tho
Royce says the transistor has the voices of people you know.... she knows everyone in there, that was her job
Much much louder game
wheat bobcat
yea
calm jackal
15 people really mad at her for killing them, all yelling at the same time
noble portal
yeah I think that's why her trace wasn't "Recorded"; the Camerata probably never had her information. It wasn't until Red took her out that the Transistor took up a version of her trace
they probably warned her about the voices
still zealot
Having to deal with being permanently attached to people who resent you might be interesting in its own right
noble portal
Oh no I'm invested
white solar
There could be a transistor prequel game where you alternate between members of the camerata
noble portal
honestly Camerata prequel content is top of my "other Transistor stuff" wishlist 👌
white solar
Heck, there could be a game where you play as Henter Jallaford where you investigate stuff and I would pay good money for it
wheat bobcat
I wanna see more of Yon-Dale!
She looks like she's made of cotton candy and I wanna hug her ;-;
wheat bobcat
I'm gay
I will never not be gay
But like
I would give Farrah a smooch
Yon-Dale emits pure Hypnos floofy-boi energy to me and I love that
calm jackal
for some reason i got the impression she had a little biplane with a paintbrush hooked up to the tail
and thats how she paints the sky
had.... all these characters in past tense 😢
wheat bobcat
I kinda thought it was more like how you paint things in Okami, but with a pretty holographic display.
WAIT A SECOND
CAN PEOPLE USE HARD-LIGHT TECH LIKE SYMMETRA DOES?
CAN PEOPLE HACK EACH OTHER?!
SUPERGIANT I MUST KNOOO THIIIIIS-
noble portal
Hard-light/hard hologram stuff seems semi-implied imo. The “break point” barriers in the tutorial appear holographic, and the access point menus for functions seem to be projected from the Transistor itself; at the very least they’re touch-sensitive projections to allow for interfacing
And then there’s the little arena-boundary-thing that the Process creates, which if we read as a set piece rather than a game mechanic, could fall into that same category
inland mirage
i don't think it's a thing beyond like just simple barriers though, excluding Cheerleaders
unless there's a function log that proves me wrong, all we ever see is the combat boundary and Royce's studio with that kind of stuff
wheat bobcat
Yeah. Although, given how the Process works, converting energy into matter and vice-versa probably isn't impossible. And I know there's holographic interfaces, the terminals prove that. I wonder if, rather than paper, their books would have holographic projections for pages
However, the thought of hacking others seems a lil' spooky. What would happen if a person's code got corrupted?
still zealot
probably something similar to how Blue acted while under the spine influence, but worse
wheat bobcat
Well no, that's him being essentially inebriated. An individual's code is what makes them stick together, so you have to wonder if just things would start not working. Perhaps birth defects would be missing strings of code or something?
wheat bobcat
Ye
Preston
Lillian, too
Actually, one of my characters for the unofficial sequel is named Enigma. I based her off a hypothetical. Basically, she was working on the development of a second Transistor for the Camerata, and was nearly done with it when the Process broke loose. She was near-instantly consumed by it, but managed to grab a diode and attach it to her chest before she collapsed (Her abdomen was too Processed to attach it to- not enough tissue)
calm jackal
No, not Preston or Lillian... in the plaza where you meet the young lady 2, there's someone so injured you can't really trace them
wheat bobcat
Oh yeah, the bank man
Ayway
She wakes up hours later and her power's made her immune to the Process. And to make matters worse, she fell onto the nearly-complete Transistor, embedding it into her half-Processed abdomen, granting her control of the Process within herself.
inland mirage
forget bastion's choice of leave/save zulf or evacuate/restoration
which flatbread did yall pick
i've replayed the game a bunch of times and don't think I've ever not chosen sea monster
wheat bobcat
I only chose Sea Monster on my fourth recursion
twin summit
what were the choices again lol
wheat bobcat
I don't remember
rare mango
Wiki says: Super Deluxe, Harvest Garden, Sea Monster, and Mystery Jan's
Sea Monster was my first pick
wheat bobcat
Super Deluxe was mine
crimson haven
.................soooo i might've gotten transistor too
lunar mesa
nice
noble portal
Sea Monster was my first, I think I’ve done Mystery and Harvest on subsequent plays
crimson haven
i was already amazed with bastion's art!! with this one im like OOOOOOOOO
noble portal
I couldn’t say no to Blue, he was so excited for a Sea Monster
split ginkgo
Transistor is an amazing game
crimson haven
im still a little confused with the fighting
when you're waiting for your turn do you like... walk/jaunt only?
calm jackal
You can eventually upgrade a weapon so that you can use it during turn cooldown
Mostly if you're waiting for your turn you're cowering in a sneaky corner or running away
wispy stratus
i think you can use any function in your bar if you have turn off cooldown without actually being in turn
calm jackal
Oh yeah attacking out of turn is good
crimson haven
ohhh ok ok :0 thank you
inland mirage
also if you set Jaunt as a secondary function, you can use that attack while in and out of turn
regardless of turn cooldown
noble portal
You can also use Mask 2 ways; at the beginning of a turn to guarantee a crit, or at the end as an escape route while turn cools down
wispy stratus
very fun against the last boss
can't get hit if you're invisible the whole time
but you need to finish the game to get the ng+ cheese
noble portal
Oh I should try Mask against the final boss. I rarely use it but that sounds like fun
wispy stratus
get two copies with jaunt
calm jackal
mask is ebic against the last boss, he doesn't even get a ||turn|| depending on how you do it
but there's a million fun ways to do that fight
noble portal
I played a time-waster version of the fight where I equipped only non-damaging functions just to see how long I could drag it out (was kind of fishing for dialogue cues). But my favourite silly attempt was when I used nothing but beefed-up Ping (I think it was Ping(jaunt(cull))?) and just machinegunned the final boss into oblivion bc I could use it both in and out of Turn XD
inland mirage
listening to the extended ost because why not
am I crazy or can you hear a bit of the chorus of Signals even in the instrumental version (mostly at 1:18)
it's been driving me nuts i can't be the only one 
zenith beacon
i want a transistor mod where Ping() makes the discord ping sound when fired
so i could (@) everyone and and annoy everyone in the process 
viral token
I played a time-waster version of the fight where I equipped only non-damaging functions just to see how long I could drag it out (was kind of fishing for dialogue cues). But my favourite silly attempt was when I used nothing but beefed-up Ping (I think it was Ping(jaunt(cull))?) and just machinegunned the final boss into oblivion bc I could use it both in and out of Turn XD
@noble portal WHOOOAAAAAAAAAA.
That. sounds. insane. I wanna tryyyy 😛
dark marlin
I played through this game in one go this past monday and I gotta say, the dog makes this so much easier, and more fun!
white solar
I wanna try fighting ||Royce only using the SuperUser() Kill() function as the main attack||
noble portal
might want to spoiler since there are a few people who just started
but OT: is there a way to up the probability of triggering it, or would you just pop in and out of turn until you get a superuser proc?
noble portal
it still sets up for crits, I'm not sure about how strong the stun is
I rememebr getting a superuser proc, iirc (final boss) ||Royce|| 's healthbars are 1000 each, so a kill() is half a healthbar
white solar
yeah so you would need Void for it definitely
my Superuser crack build is to just permastun enemies with Void() + Crash() until it procs
dunno if it would work on them though
noble portal
it's been a while since I've run the fight but I'd guess they're relatively stun-resistant. Purge() works well for slowing them down, I think Purge(crash)) was pretty effective for an extended slow/stun function
inland mirage
i literally just fought them and wish i had read this conversation first so i could have found out
calm jackal
If you could stunlock royce it wouldn't be very fun
noble portal
one thing I do no for sure is that Switch() does nothing XD
white solar
wait, can you summon Lunas?
I do wish Transistor was a bit longer, cause I love playing around with the functions so having at least one more boss level to try them on would be perfect
calm jackal
To fight him? Yeah I think he had a voiceline for it
calm jackal
Well good luck
noble portal
there's dialogue for bringing dogs to the boss fight?? 👀
crimson haven
th
there's dogs?
little pagoda
Ok but ||Royce doesnt like fetches, do you think if stuff didnt go to hell he'd eventually be talked into getting one by Sybil||
I also wanna fight final boss ||Royce|| only using ||his function|| Flood
||STOP HITTING YOURSELF||
inland mirage
i wish the final boss was harder lol
although I think part of it may be that I've played the game so many times that I know just to do Void(Purge) + Breach(Mask) to delete his health
noble portal
But I like void... 🥺
little pagoda
As someone who DID NOT know about broken functions and combos
The final boss was not easy
So i guess the amount of challenge really depends on your knowledge of the game and functions
And honestly i had a lot of fun like that
inland mirage
ha yeah
it's been ages since I first played the game so I probably had trouble back then
zenith beacon
yeah - you gotta learn how those attacks actually function before you can start abusing them
||oh god that was so bad||
calm jackal
I used some middlingly good functions but I knew them so well and was turn()ing at the perfect times so I think i beat it first try
definitely not the hardest part of the game
i still struggle with spine sometimes
(especially with certain limiters)
zenith beacon
yeah i noticed that whenever i fight the spine...
i either kick it's butt so hard the whole fight ends under two minutes
or struggle with it and end up dying or barely finishing it with one function remaining
there's no middle ground for me there 
i guess i should grow a spine and get good at the game
eeeeehhh... 
inland mirage
the spine is the hardest boss i think, cause you can't backstab it
calm jackal
lmaoooo
zenith beacon
huh
yeah - that might be it
calm jackal
Omg imagine beating the spine by switching badcells
wispy stratus
oh that's really fun
get the function that automatically switches them when you pick cells up
you get so many buddies
calm jackal
Hehe
edgy saddle
But wait, to backstab someone, would be technically stabbing their spine. But the spine is a spine. So normal hits are just backstabs? 
inland mirage
i see the spine of the spine
i know its spine, twisted and tied
edgy saddle
Yes
noble portal
It should get that checked out., sounds painful XD
little pagoda
Thats just scoliosis brah
wispy stratus
yeah just get a medical corset
calm jackal
Maybe the spine is so grouchy and murderous because of pain
main notch
or he's sick of everyone on his back all the time
edgy saddle
He is the back
unreal gulch
I've never really figured out what the Spine IS. It doesn't seem like other Process enemies, and characters seem to recognize it from before everything went wrong.
noble portal
My thought has always been that The Spine is a public transit vehicle, like a train/tram or similar. It’s possible it’s even free-moving, hence the lyric “I see its line, twisted and tied”, it just sort of goes where it wants
noble portal
It’s both? It changes between choruses doesn’t it?
It’s “mine” right at the end I thought
noble portal
Honestly the idea came when I drafted Kaladesh a little while ago; there’s an MtG card that reminded me of the Spine XD https://gatherer.wizards.com/pages/card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=417768
wispy stratus
it's first "sparkle and shine, light the inside" then it's "i know it's mine, twisted and tied"
then at the end it's "you know it's mine"
noble portal
Welp, I stand corrected
wispy stratus
the idea of it being part of the infrastructure is a pretty interesting one
am wondering if it's some kind of internet related thing
karmic otter
I always thought that the Spine was the Cloudbank skyline. The Spine as a name for a mountain range is pretty common in fantasy, I think.
So, it's kinda like the edge of the world. And I feel that Red uses the idea that there's nothing or there as a metaphor for loneliness in the song.
noble portal
Ah I like that
inland mirage
the Spine being part of the skyline does make sense, since both times one appear is after a major chunk of the city vanishes
calm jackal
So, what the camerata do is make the process visible, right? And according to the limiter logs, the process literally changes shape to imitate people and things. I think the process heard the song, and took it literally, and then created the spine
white solar
Yeah I always thought the Spine(s) were certain buildings that became creatures via the process
or they were someone's backbone, who knows
wheat bobcat
From what we can infer based on the game's data, the Process as a whole is essentially the OS for the world. The Process we face is instead sentinels deployed by it that serve to reset the system by converting it back to its base state. Each different class seems to be more advanced versions of them, with the Men being the most highly advanced. Given that the Spine and the Men are the only ones that appear truly biological, it's more likely that the more advanced a particular Process unit gets, the more biological it becomes. Therefore, the Spines are both just highly advanced Process units, just... really big.
little pagoda
CHONK
steel bronze
OK WELL UH. just finished my first playthrough Wow i was not expecting That
little pagoda
patpat
steel bronze
also idk if im just spoiled by hades but it's like.. really short? i think i played less than 10h total
little pagoda
We have consolation cakes for people who just finished the game
Transistor is very short
steel bronze
i'm glad they're happy but girl... the city.....
calm jackal
the city is its people, it's already dead
little pagoda
^
calm jackal
Transistor has more replayability than bastion at least
limpid steeple
I am playing Transistor again since I played it once in 2014! I remember liking it, but the combat didnt click with me back then. After all the Hades hype I decided to give it another shot and I am having a great time! I am kinda bad at it, but still...kinda interested to see where I will rank it after this playthrough.
white solar
my first playthrough was 14 hours i think, so i was confused when people keep saying theirs was like 7-9 hours
I think it's cause I kept doing every test and messed around a whole lot in the sandbox
noble portal
Yeah if you’re playing thoroughly and taking your time, a full two runs is probably inside 20 hours?
white solar
or more... if you take your time even more thoroughly
I had 24 hours after my completing my first recursion
still zealot
8 hours is short for today's times I guess, lol
But it definitely used to be par for the course for singleplayer games
zenith beacon
i'd rather take a great 8 hours long story ||a transistory, if you will|| over 4 hours of decent content stretched to 80 hours of open world meh
all killer, no filler
or however that goes
limpid steeple
The older I get the more I enjoy short games 😅 Makes me happy to find out a new game is not much longer than 20hrs ^^
BUT I also have 70hrs in Hades, so maybe that game is an exception
hollow ledge
i know the server’s mostly hades themed rn but transistor has a special place in my heart so im hunkering down here
calm jackal
What a beautiful game.....
hollow ledge
transistor............... made me cry like a little baby
calm jackal
What an ending huh
hollow ledge
oh absolutely
unfortunately the one (1) fanart i did for transistor is ship art so... idk if there are any like. rules. about it gahbfjdm
(i checked the rules and all before i started posting, i just dont wanna be That Person)
manic lava
any fanart is allowed in #fan-works as long as it doesn't contesting adult themes like sex or gore
and it's fanart for an sgg game
crimson haven
;A; i just noticed functions have lil story bits omg
calm jackal
You can unlock more!!!
crimson haven
I weel!!!
crimson haven
and good art :0 so awesome
ooooo
calm jackal
Sybil...
hollow ledge
the bits!!!!!!!!
limpid steeple
Man...those challange rooms are kinda hard. I dont think I played them in my first playthrough^^
noble portal
The endurance tests are the hardest imo. Because they’re long fights with functions you may or may not be familiar with
The Agency test was fun, I kind of wish there was a bit more to it though
limpid steeple
Yes those endurance tests can be brutal. A great way to train new functions though!
steel bronze
i think speed tests were my least favorite tbh
calm jackal
i like the idea of giving you some really jank builds and you have to live
little pagoda
Endurance tests werent hard for me but oh boy oh boy speed tests
Performance tests are my favourite
timber folio
i have done all the tests in the game except one and i cannot remember for the life of me which one
i played it once right around when it first came out and then i've played it through like three more times on switch over the last couple months, it's short but it's one of my favorite games ever hands down
clever silo
I spent half of my last play through just finishing all the tests
timber folio
yeah me too lol
clever silo
I’m so glad it’s on the switch. It seems a lot more people are playing transistor now again or for the first time, especially with all the excitement Hades is causing
timber folio
i'm so glad that people are talking about and playing the other games and just supergiant as a whole because of the popularity of hades!! i've been a fan of this company since bastion and i'm so glad people i know in real life are all noticing their excellent work now
everyone who knows me irl knows i never shut up about transistor bc i'm always desperately trying to get people to play it and now people are actually listening lol
modest sapphire
I just discovered She Shines, is that song in the game ?
calm jackal
It was a song made for the apple TV port of transistor
It would play during installation
calm jackal
Doesn't show up in game, no :(
zenith beacon
man - darren went above and beyond with that soundtrack, didn't he? 
he made a whole new song for all like...
three people who played transistor on apple tv
noble portal
lol
clever silo
@timber folio all the news about Hades actually got me to play Bastion for the first time, I played transistor first. Absolutely loved it
And same, I talk about transistor and bastion a lot with my friends and try to get them to play them every so often
keen karma
The wonderful artwork of the SGG concert now has official merch https://www.instagram.com/p/CGUW4kEHegt/
Instagram
keen karma
This weekend! (16th & 17th). Tomorrow's an Q&A with Ashley and Darren as well. https://www.facebook.com/gamemusicfestival/
lunar mesa
thank you
noble portal
le sigh I'm doing RPG stuff all day over the weekend
zenith beacon
hang on a second
HOLD THE PHONE
is it just facebook doing some weird auto-translation thing, or...
w-where does this gig take place again?
calm jackal
"WROCŁAW, POLAND"
zenith beacon
OOOOHHHHHNNNOOOOOOOOO 
http://prntscr.com/uzh29u
calm jackal
Is that where you are?
zenith beacon
i won't make it there in time
||szczecin, poland||
i mean - sure - it's just one short train ride away
but considering how this pandemic has gotten A LOT worse lately
eeeeehhhh
i guess i'll just have to watch it online or whatever 
calm jackal
The connection speed is gonna be top notch for you though lmao
little pagoda
WAIT WROCLAW
I also wont make it due to money safety reasons but
Im gonna vibe in the direction
calm jackal
"WROCŁAW, POLAND"
twin summit
transistor theories are all dumb bc this message exists: https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/456894203386134550/671329908491812874
it's the definitely true canon for this game
little pagoda
God damn it
white solar
no please
still zealot
"Why are you booing me?! I'm right!"
little pagoda
scrambles up on the stage
turns the microphone on
transistor tron legacy au
leaves
hollow ledge
👀
white solar
agreed 
white solar
Does anyone know any playlists or something with songs similar to Transistor's soundtrack
My efforts have mostly ended in futility
little pagoda
transistor's style is very.... specific
edgy saddle
@white solar Well the genre that Transistor's ost is closely related would be Trip-hop imo. You could try listening to Portishead. That's one band that gave me Transistor feels, specifically their song Mysterons. I'll drop the link in #music if you want to give it a listen!
little pagoda
👀
noble portal
Morcheeba is another good band with trip-hop vibes, I'd try their album "Big Calm"
little pagoda
Though did someone find something similar to Tangent?
That song is amazing
Something that gives me Interlace vibes is Unknown Frequency by Lucy in Disguise
steel bronze
ohh yeah portishead is a great transistor soundalike
umm
what else let's see
yeah i mean. massive attack, some early gorillaz stuff, boards of canada maybe?
little pagoda
Early gorilalz stuff... Hmm
Hey no yeah! That fits
some early gorillaz stuff
@steel bronze
DARE Red cover
steel bronze
i need it
but yes, weirdly slow country was the one i was thinking of but most of gorillaz' self titled has transistor vibes tbh
little pagoda
I was wondering if you meant self titled or demon days lmao
But I definitely see Slow Country fitting
What I thought of was O Green World, though that might be just because its my fave sjfhf
Maybe Every Planet We Reach is Dead
For some demon days transistor representation
keen karma
I'll throw this in here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCvJcRORses
lament basin
could try the portal 2 ost?
keen karma
That one's pretty cool as well! Science is Fun, Don't Do It, and Your Precious Moon are really good
On that note (heh), I'd also recommend Alex Giudici's remixes of a lot of those songs if you're into synthwave
noble portal
The self-titled and "Red" albums by SONOIO are more into the electronica side but they give me big Transistor vibes too
still zealot
Darren makes very unique tracks for each of the games
he didn't have a...shall we call it "standard" background for game composers - usually they're well-versed in orchestral music, all that. He was a rock artist, iirc, and instead of trying to mimic your standard ost, he threw it out the window and created unique genres for each game
which is why each ost feels so interconnected with the game itself
From a GDC interview:
My main background isn't really as a traditional composer, so I wasn't as comfortable with devloping repeating themes and doing a lot of the traditional composing techniques
For bastion, it was Acoustic Frontier Trip-Hop, for Transistor, it was Old World Electronic Post-Rock
so I would actually recommend checking out some post-rock @white solar
stuff like this
white solar
Yeah I've already listened to a fair amount of Trip hop in my searches, and while they do capture the chill-atmospheric-jazz kind of backing instruments, I've yet to find those that reach the same prevailing and melodic vocals that you find in Transistor.
Athough, I have yet to listen to the ones you guys have suggested, so there's a lot of music for me to hear now! Thanks!
white solar
also Old Friends is definitely post-rock influenced
@still zealot that song gives a lot of Cut Apart vibes 👍
Something that gives me Interlace vibes is Unknown Frequency by Lucy in Disguise
@little pagoda I love Lucy in Disguise too!
white solar
Also I've listened to all of your guys' suggestions and they're all great 
, was reaching a sort of dead end with my music and you introduced me to a lot of great bands
wispy stratus
i'm surprised an aggy hasn't shown up with all this talk of post rock
maybe check out what they're listening to as well
keen karma
For electronic post-rock stuff, I'd also recommend 65daysofstatic, especially the Wild Light album and the No Man's Sky OST. They have more albums but they're much harsher and math-y. Also Mogwai, that kinda stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZocDT3TmAE
white solar
I've shared the spotify link to this song before but I think it bears repeating because of how good it is, and a how much of a good trip-hoppy song that evokes Transistor it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUB7e3BtnvU
stone shoal
Post rock... 
Where!?
Not explicitly transistor related but I'll throw a couple of great post rock artists in #music should I remember I bit later
noble portal
anyone have good names for Asher's cat? I don't want to recycle across fics for clarity's sake
twin summit
bug
little pagoda
🤔
first thing that comes to mind is Moon, because i saw red and thought oh blood moons but hmm
i cant do Apollo, I named a fetch Royce would have that
i feel like Asher would name it maybe something related to its colour
or maybe of the colour of its eyes lmao
but something cute
im thinking names like, midnight, cherry, stuff like that
noble portal
Midnight makes me think of the cat from Fran Bow 😅
Cherry is cute
Mocha? Or something else coffee-related, perhaps?
still zealot
I like mocha
noble portal
omg if the cat's named Mocha, then Asher could just keep adding onto the "order" whenever he iterates on his cat's name (as pet people are wont to do) XD
manic lava
mr fuzzy beans
little pagoda
Royce tries his best to keep away from the cat
Not because he doesnt like it but because he's wearing white pants
The cat: omae wa mou shindeiru
The cat: rubs its face on his leg
noble portal
nuuuu
little pagoda
I feel like Roy is good w cats cause he gives them space
Sybil wants to snuggle everything fluffy
noble portal
Royce and cats have a mutual agreement for quiet and personal space
I've always imagined Sybil as a dog person and I don't think Royce would be much into that
little pagoda
Sybil thinks cats work like dogs but they dont
And then shes sad they dont like her
I feel like Royce would say he's not too much into pets and whatnot and then Asher finds him explaining advanced physics to the cat and petting it
Royce: do you think thats a good solution for the problem
Cat: prrrrrrbbbbb
Royce: Knew I could count on you
noble portal
n'aw
noble portal
once again thinking about how Red and Royce would probably vibe pretty well if the circumstances were... better
little pagoda
i can imagine that
full peak
How can I not get obliterated in recursion?
wispy stratus
you shouldn't be having that hard a time considering you keep your levels and functions
if you are maybe try changing your build
white solar
Just try combinations with void, most of them are really powerful
noble portal
Do you have a bunch of limiters on? The first few fights in recursion are pretty tough
keen karma
Do you mean just the first recursion being tough, or multiple ones as well? I think I intentionally played through the game again to get the 10 limiter achievement in the first easier fights of my third or fourth recursion (i‘m not very good)
noble portal
I assume the difficulty caps out at some point around 2 or 3 recursions bc the enemies can only upgrade so much? I meant that the first rerun feels like a jump in difficulty bc they hit you with level 2/3 enemies in the first encounter
opaque current
Do I reinstall transistor to finish the story(after starting over cause idr where I am), or do I try to 100% Hades(I got to the credits), or do I continue playing pyre? Help!
cedar grove
continue playing pyre, then play transistor, then 100% hades?
opaque current
Hmmm
heavy finch
Finish Transistor totally worth it.
rotund wing
if you”re playing pyre right now, i’d say finish that. However Transistor is also really great and would probably be shorter.
knotty skiff
Should I get transitor?
Or wait for neir autotama to go on sale
Also this would be a Completely blind play through I’ve literally only heard one track from the game and just seen the trailer and Nier autotama I’ve seen a bit more of the game
calm jackal
Transistor is best played totally blind I think
knotty skiff
Well of course
wispy stratus
transistor goes for like a few bucks when it's on sale
you should totally be able to get both
knotty skiff
True
still zealot
nier is definitely the longer experience if that's what you're looking for
noble portal
Thinking about young Grant and how Royce was like... by his own admission about 18/19ish when they met
Teenage Royce would have been a strange little cryptid
noble portal
Dying at the complete sincerity of “we’re gonna go vandalize some stuff” XD
scenic crater
anyone know why this game costs so much more on steam?
vs epic games I mean
Even not counting the sale, on epic it's 9.99 cdn and on steam it's 22 lol
noble portal
couldn't begin to guess
is it n sale on Epic store or is it always ~$10
(also yay Canada gang)
scenic crater
It's on sale for 2 bucks actually haha
but it's always 9.99 when not on sale as far as I can tell
noble portal
huh
scenic crater
right? it's very strange
like I know sale things are never gonna be the same but the prices themselves are usually consistent
noble portal
gave Royce's vo lines a listen again for reference and there is a lot more [possible] combat dialogue than I remember. Maybe I just don't loiter around in the fight much 🤔
calm jackal
Some of the lines in the big compilation video never play in game, especially the combat ones
But they're still canon in my head
noble portal
oh? I know there are some unused takes of the pre-combat lines but I didn't realize there was more than that
full peak
hm so i beat transistor today
it was much shorter than i thought
and whoever voiced royce is superb
noble portal
Sunkrish Bala is a gem and his voicework is top notch, he really does an anazing job for such a weird character
full peak
he's just such a soft spoken final boss
i can't even feel mad at him
tbh none of the camarata are unsympathetic
esp when it's implied that sybil was in love with red like who wouldn't simp
noble portal
yeah honestly it's such a good flip. You're down to just Royce and you're like "THIS GUY has it coming." But then he talks at you for like a half an hour and he's really just kinda... soft and genuine about it and you kinda can't be totally mad at him by the end
full peak
he's just childlike
noble portal
dude's scared; he's all alone and the world is ending
full peak
what i like about it is that his narrative in his function leads you to believe he's some kind of mad tinkerer or something but when you meet him it's just a totally different feel but it still fits what you've been told
i also really like that we never meet grant
i love that subversion
noble portal
yeah he is kinda framed as like "this guy's gotta be the final boss, right?"
full peak
mm
i mean once he was slotted up second i knew he couldn't be the big bad but still
it was very nice
i think the one thing i might have misunderstood because i played the whole thing in one burst is why the camerata stole red's voice
/why they were collecting people
noble portal
I have a thing for this XD
full peak
i thought they were trying to introduce them to the conspiracy but were they just using them as functions?
noble portal
hang on lemme... I have a little blog post about this but I can also tl;dr
full peak
oh nice
noble portal
short version, (and this is just my take) everyone they integrated could have been an ally, or a hindrance. Theyw ere clearing the way for their own conspiracy while still getting the benefit of those peoples' capabilities as functions (functions having more utility than just as weapons, but as facets of control the Transistor is able to exert)
full peak
so more nuanced ways to use the transistor to rebuild cloudbank
taking their expertise and putting it to the camerata's use
noble portal
yeah, bc some of the functions make mention of really immaterial things like a person's "moral compass" etc
full peak
yeah
noble portal
Red's voice specifically I think was actually an accident; iirc her function mentions a "partial transfer" of her data. I think this means the attack was a near-miss, but enough to take some of her information and literally remove it from her being, in this case taking away her capacity for speech (which some other lore-mongers have read as the Transistor literally took away her Linguistics selection)
full peak
i would argue that taking away her linguistics section would mean her losing all ability to understand speech in general
noble portal
yeah that's why I'm sorta 50/50 on that one, taking away someone's entire capacity for language would be way more damaging
it could also just be traumatic mutism? Which iirc is a thing? XD
full peak
although you could argue that the narrator is interpreting everything for her and regurgitating it telepathically
noble portal
but that's less exciting
noble portal
mhm
full peak
so is the narrator
noble portal
been thinking lately about how a lot of their interactions are framed so it's ambiguous as to whether or not she can actually hear him. I'm pretty sure a lot of her typed responses aren't direct and could just be in a vacuum
full peak
i'm pretty sure she can hear him. especially towards the end when the terminals stop uploading
she keeps changing what she's typing in response to the narrator
noble portal
and also that bit near the beginnign where Boxer yells out to see if there's anyone around... literally nobody could have heard him unless they arelady knew him, so there was no point 🥺
true
full peak
boxer is really cute
also the insinuation that he's the protection red hired and she fell for him??
ugh
noble portal
gotta love that ward/bodyguard romance 👌