#transistor
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and the shipping was less than 20 dollars
this is really less than i expected
GOT IT for ps4 \0/
Woot got it!
That's a pleasent suprise with shipping


still amusing to see Power Rangers still available
got it switch! 😂 That was so stressful guys!
I now own this game 4 times....
i'm still shaking
I got the PS4 version because the box isn't red
This is my third time buying it
But I wanted the switch one because I already have the ps4 version 😛
i thought this would be my fourth purchase until i remembered i also have it on mobile
It's my 4th time buying this game
I've bought Cave Story like 6 times I think
oops
PC PS4 Mobile and now this
I have it digitally on Swith, but I don't have a PS4
this is my 9th transistor purchase lol
Now I need my PS4 to last forever hahahahaha
this is only my 2nd :o
are we counting buying it for friends?
i am
I wonder if the LRG Switch titles will be worth something in the future
Just make sure to send pics of the huge ring on your fingers 👀
ring time
Got my copy for swiiiiitch 🥰🥰🥰🥰
OFC
oh its almost sold out
7 min has passed, and all versions still available
oh? how do you know
lrg tweeted
That was actually up longer than I expected
i had notifs on for them for this lol
Hat!
🎩
Omggg
yeah, i put two calendar notifications in for this
I hope the ring isn't made out of plastic
it isnt
I can't believe I got one!!! I'm so hyped
it's metal iirc
^^^
if it looked like it would fit me, I 100% would of grabbed the SE
but I have skinny witch fingers
or yaoi hands, take your pick
there's no life-sized replica of the Transistor in the edition smh
oh, the ring is basically why it costed 80
Man I wanna build a transistor but idk how lighting stuff works
omg there is only 9 left for switch already xD
Which is strange because Red doesn't have the biggest fingers lmao
some guy made his lights react with lines that Mr Nobody said and omg it was gaooools
i don't think the ring will fit me but it will look nice in a case or something i think
make that sold out
Nice
Switch Collectors is sold out xD
Switch CE sold out
I'm kinda sad there isn't a red or transistor statue instead of the ring
ten minutes wow
still bought it tho
Is the ring gonna be the type to go brown
Omg I’m so happy I secured mine 🙏
kind of slow
@outer kiln you can still buy a red statue in the sgg store though!
Sold out in 10 minutes?
<Whew>
Nah, the ring looked pretty decent quality
as expected switch sold out first
im so glad i got up early
Celeste and Va11 HallA sold out like immediately
oh yeah i missed va-11 hall-a and i'm v sad
I love my red statue xD
the video lrg posted was low quality so i honestly can't tell if it looks like painted plastic or if it's actually nice
@soft pier it's metal
Yeah got the celeste pc collectors back in february too
The paint will come off if worn for long periods
didn’t even know they fade va11halla
PS4 CE of Transistor is still available!
Didnt limited run say they were gonna do a physical release for va11halla on switch 😱
ps4 Collectiors edition is still avaible
No PC collectors edition? 😔
Momodora had a Switch CE a while ago,
ps4 ships a few weeks before switch in case anyone was wondering!!
I'm too poor dont tease XD
according to the site at least
PS4 version came out like last year
so keeeen 😍
10 PS4 CE left
I got the psychonauts collectors for ps4 but i definitely considered the momodora it was a great game i enjoyed playin
7 now
Boom goes the dynamite. Gone.
yeah they went fast lol
13 mins damm
define fast?
pax east 3-days (when those still existed) fast
10 copies in a couple of seconds fast
They both sold out never seen them sell out this quick on limited run
"Define fast?"
Less time than an ICBM launched from Moscow to reach New York City...
wow, that's fast
their july 5th mega-bundle isn't marked as sold out, though, so i guess if someone missed it and can't do the later launch they can slap down the $320 for the bundle
anyway, if anyone here missed it, the second batch is in a couple of hours! dont worry!
Yes, there will be a second batch which opens at 6 EST iirc.
According to Limited Run's website:
70% is sold in the 1st batch.
30% is sold in the 2nd batch.
2500??
Just think, 20+ years from now, LRG games are gonna be worth maybe something?
2000 i think?
there was 1500 in the ps4 batch this time
wow
so i guess 500 in next batch?
Only 4,000 copies will be printed i believe it's 4000 overall, so 2000 for each
Nintendo Switch CE is limited to 2,500 copies.
PS4 CE is limited to 1,500 copies.
@tight swallow I think a lot of the value placed on these aren’t gonna go up in the long term but idk
yeah,
Specifically if the consoles get replaced
the most obscure stuff somehow gets pricey in the future
So based on this
1250 and 750 for the next batches assuming 50/50 split
i.e., physical copies of indie games
I have zero intention of selling the CEs. I bought them to own and pass on to my not-yet-born children.
That’s fair, time will tell. In the meantime you’ve got a super rad game
again
i thought it'd all go in like a couple hours not like Thirteen Minutes
I wished they used different posters though
to be fair, I wanted to get it for the merch, not for the game, I already have multiple copies as it is 
I think all of us already own the game
xD
😄
ppl are like so hyped from speedrunning from gdq they need to speedrun a sale too
not for switch yet, which is exciting
well, this is normal for LRG
Yep have it here on both the steam and epic store :> and now on ps4 :>
they typically sell out faster actually
actually let me check how many times i have bought transistor
I want the collectors addition for switch personally. I already have it for Steam, but I don't care. It's worth buying again lol
second batch is 6pm EST
My back log of games order are now, Celeste(Switch), Celeste CE (PC), Skullgirls (Switch), Momodora (Switch), and now Transistor (switch)
I think my gf will probably get me the CE of Catherine
I really hope I can get away with purchasing it at work, so long as it doesn't sell out by that time.
This batch already sold out pretty fast
My back log of orders: Bastion(Ps vita), Transistor CE (ps4), Psychonauts CE(ps4) and Celeste CE(PC)
i'm throwing good luck vibes at you
Bastion?
Yep bastion went on sale last year
I got the PS4 version, but I got that like months ago
Oh you meant the stuff you waiting for
ok i bought it 4 times on steam (1 for myself and 3 for friends), i own it on epic bc it was free and now i preordered it for ps4 from limited run
i just meant all the stuff i bought on LRG
expired?
Epic does free weekend type stuff
How fast did the Bastion one sell? And how many copies were printed?
all the free games epic gave out are free to keep
Yeah transistor was free for a week like 2 months ago
not sure, I think SGG sells them on their website though
I remember when Thimbleweed Park was free, then it wasn't
yeah, if you grabbed it then, it stays in your library forever
but you cant grab it for free after that
overcooked is the game that is free rn
i missed last day of june but its fine bc i already played it on steam lol
Epic has one free game for 2 weeks, then goes on to the next one
It really has me anxious to know I might get robbed of my opportunity to own a collectors edition of my #1 favorite game.
anyway yeah there are some copies left of bastion for psvita and ps4 on the supergiant store: https://store.supergiantgames.com/
;_;
if anyone is interested. also some sick merch ofc that isnt that limited, including the posters that are in the CE in a bigger version.
not reversible tho
@timid crystal set an alarm and schedule a toilet break at work if that's possible 😱
What if your favorite game never got a CE?
but it gets ported nearly everywhere
😢
one of my favorite games got ported nearly everywhere and it does have a ce lol but i missed it
Cave Story?
ah
its very good, buy it this steam sale
How fast did this first batch sell? Just so I'm aware
I got the bigger poster and it’s so lovely
13 min
or everywhere else sale
13 minutes
Alright, then there's a chance
But there were more copies this round than the next one
2nd batch is smaller, yeah, so be speedy
again, if you create a LRG account and enter your address, checkout will go faster
How hard is it to purchase via mobile?
Super easy
Not v hard!! I did it in a minute
i assume its slower because of typing, but if ur on mobile def do the address thing
depends on your internet speed but shouldn't be bad
Paypal's pretty fast as well, that's what I did. Literally just checking out, logging in to Paypal, then setting the delivery method and it's done
Chrome has my address saved so whenever I fill in a form it does it automatically
If you wanna go full speed with Paypal just copy your password into your clipboard so you don't have to type it
So with the second run is it going to come out right on 6? Like there’s no chance it’ll be early right?
For those who will try to snag a copy at 6 PM EST, I think you'll have at least 5 minutes to snag a copy. I wish you luck.
@keen plank
No, I don't think there will be a breach. I read Limited Run's rules. It seems LR adheres strictly to its policies.
Sounds good, 6 on the dot and a lot of hope
Thanks ahah, I want the switch version but if I get the PS4 I’m fine with it, I can give the physical copy to a friend lmao
And sadly probably the most active it ever will be but hey it’s something
Well it's likely going to sell out really fast this next batch considering how it's later in the day. It would seem late enough in the day for people on the west coast.
I wish it didn't have to be this limited... ;_;
It's so much pressure
Ikr ahah
at least some people will make a bunch of money reselling them :|
Lol...
They posted the ring on their Instagram if anyone is still curious
All sold out CE's!!
Amazing, so happy the fanbase is this active still. I am glad I got to order a CE too
Any chance to get Switch Limited Run #39: Transistor Collector's Edition?
Or not anymore
I’m so upset I missed it, I got the time zone wrong and didn’t get a chance to order the CE. I love this game so much and I can’t believe I made such a stupid mistake.
There's a second batch going on sale later today!
6pm (insert time zone here I forget)
I really hope I can get one. And I wish it wasn’t this limited, it is my favorite game of all time and means a lot to me and to my boyfriend, I’m going to be devastated if I can’t get a copy of the CE and I know I’m not the only person who feels that way.
Aka 8 hours after the first batch
EST
it's 6 pm EDT
Yep!
hat
hat indeed
yeah, usually for these kinds of promotions, you need to be online when the sale starts
the first batch sold out in 15 minutes, so i'd imagine the second will also sell out as quickly
Thanks for the info everyone
np! good luck!
Second batch might sell slower actually
I hope the second batch sells slower, I was at work when the first batch went up
Same, I had to hide in the bathroom to get mine haha
They do ship internationally, right?
Oh good, I can justify it as a Birthday Present To Myself given the time for it to arrive!
nice!
Just finished work and bought a standard copy, how fast did the CE sell?
😳 I’m suddenly feeling a lot less confident about getting a CE tonight
Yup, fingers crossed and an eye on the countdown
That is now my plan
wait ur buying both a standard copy and a CE?? woah
nono i meant portal mania
Whoops! My bad, I should really get some tea in me
Guys, is there photos of Red's ring in this new edition for reference? I mean exept official instagram.
I just saw that there's not limit to how many people can buy so i'm nervous there will be a lot of reselling at higher prices 😦
@compact abyss i can do you one better: here
https://twitter.com/LimitedRunJosh/status/1146877701925625865
The replica of Red's ring in our Transistor CE is truly a beautiful piece. https://t.co/0LX8NIveR2
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god i am so hype for that ring
idk, i personally think 6pm might sell faster. 10 est is 7am on the west coast, so more people will be awake states-side then
in any case, i’d recommend having the page up and ready to go!

Okay so just to confirm cause I'm a little confused by this: 6 PM EDT is the same as 6 PM EST?
yes
Yep
I'm surpised I got one actually forgot
Okay. I'm a little worried how fast these sold out.
my garbage body usually makes me sleep for like 10 hrs but today it was like Must Have Viddy Gaem
so i also woke up at 6:50
I work during 6 PM. I'm gonna have to use personal time to preorder it.
good luck
i hope all of you get it in the next wave!!
i’m honestly so excited about the coasters
the coasters look excellent
@blissful blaze Thanks man
Oh, I find it nice that I can upgrade my previous cardboard case OST with a proper jewel case now
Will She Shines be on the CD?
It will!
Awesome!!
Idk but the ring looks like real metal?
<3
Which seems dope
it is afaik!
@sturdy gale it's true!
WHOA
Dat quality
Haha I'm afraid to use the coasters because I want them to stay perfect
Much as I love the idea I don't think I can spend another $80 lmao
there's no limited run app is there?
Besides, not fair to the people who don't have one huh
i’m honestly surprised there’s no limit at check out
Will we hear updates from you guys as the process goes for when we might receive these physical editions?
the store pages for each version have estimated shipping dates!
Limited Run is generally transparent about the manufacturing and shipping process, yeah!
switch is apparently likely to be october
Hmmm... I might have moved by then. Could I change my address later do you think?
ship it to a friend!
So uhh anyone know how long it took to sell out, because I'm going to be watching a movie that in theory stops just before they start selling. But prerun ads exist
I believe you should’ve gotten an email that explains how to change your address
minutes probs
ouch, guess I'm gonna have to get the webpage preloaded on my phone
yeah, that’s what i did
@shrewd sluice my receipt emsil gives a link to a form to fill out if one's address changes
Oh awesome thank you @manic lava!
Thanks for the time estimate FPO / nyoom
70% of 2,500 Switch CE units sold out in 10 minutes.
70% of 1,500 PS4 CE units sold out in 13 mins.
ah heck, how limited are these exactly? I missed that first batch
yeah, overall both sold out completely in about 15
i think 4000 copies total?
second half goes up later
damn, I hope I can snag one these look beautiful
good luck!
the secret is just waiting out the countdown, open the page 10 mins early and just wait to order immediately ig
also creating a lrg account and saving your address so you can check out quicker
heck I want collector's but don't have the money
those coasters are very nice though!
Hello, do we know what will be in the paper guide ?
See, I really shouldn't spend $80 on this but I've been obsessed for over 5 years
reminder that batch 2 starts in about an hour!!!
an hour and 10 minutes, but that is a good time to wait on the page
gl everyone!
Hey butterfly, to answer why I’m buying both, I got my bonus today so I can afford it, also because I missed the bastion physical copy so I wanted to make sure I at least got the game this time
You know, I didn't even know Red had a ring until the CE said it came with her ring
15 minutes is still pretty quick though. luckily it at least seemed like there was no slowdown on the site when the first batch went up.
Do I need to refresh the page when it hits 5, or does it automatically unlock?
alright
@compact laurel the bastion one is still available in supergiant's store!
i think there arent many left, so i rlly hope they stay in store until your next payday 🙏
I hope so too
its too bad the CE doesn't come with the vinyl of the OST, but I'll live
the CE doesnt come with it, but that also exists in the store haha
yeah lol
PSA: 2nd batch goes live in less than 25 minutes. Tick tock. Be prepared. Good luck.
15 minutes
Fingers at the ready, people
one more reminder for ppl only checking the channel now, make a LRG account and enter your address so you can check out quicker and have more of a chance to get a CE
Shhh, don't tell them that's more competition for meeeeee! 
I’m already waiting with my very glitchy laptop as my pc decided that it needed to do a 3 hour update right now with no warning
Unless I'm mistaken, everyone who was here for the 11 AM EAST 1st batch got at least one copy.
I want to believe that will continue into the 2nd batch.
I hope so! I’m honestly surprised there isn’t a limit per person
i hope i can grab mine
You can bet 100% you'll see these being sold for $1000 in a few months
Almost certainly pelton
sadly 😦
hopefully we can get a CE also for Pyre. I REALLY want pins for all the parties
Ooh that would be cool
i actually didn't realize the 2 pins were so close either for Transistor
Just looked already 20 copy’s are on eBay for £100+
Ooooooofffff course there are
...
eww
Classy.
Good point...
Yeah I was curious, and slightly bored waiting
I don’t get how people are like that, also PayPal makes it faster
I think they also have amazon pay options
you're able to choose which card you pay with through paypal, right?
I have 2 linked and I dont want to use my primary card
yeah you should be able to
It will go with your default but yes it should take you through that?
oohhhh.... boiiii... I'm scared it will be sold in a second 😄
Just realised I forgot to turn on remember card ... this is going to be fun
hopefully its 15ish minutes again
I hope it
Good luck everyone
thanks
1 min good luck people
good luuuuuck
🤞
FINAL COUNTDOWN!
less than 1 minute
30
On your marks
I’m so stressed lol
remember you might have to refresh
get set
so be ready
GO
SUCCESS!
i've got it
Yes! Me too!
got it!
Happy birthday to future me!
did it 😛
huzzah!
i actually refreshed at 8 sec and got the button available
yay!
had to change my address and panicked LMAO
Congrats everyone!
speedrunning online checkout
congrats all!!!
GOT IT
Huzzah!
I hope each and every person on this server that wanted a copy of the CE was able to purchase one.
this stuff sure is nerve wracking lmao
Managed to get two (don't hate me) so if you're reading this there's probably still plenty left
I just refreshed and there's still more available (since the "Add to Cart" red button is still active).
gl to everyone who hasnt gotten one yet!
that was a really stupid financial decision on my part, but no regrets
arnatious, as long as you dont immediately put the second one on ebay for 100+ dollars, no one here will hate you :P
Transistor is never a stupid decision
im curious if its going to sell out faster or slower this time
It occurs to me that I just spent £118 on both a standard copy and a CE
But I got a bonus today so it’s not that bad
7 minutes in and there's still more available. (I'm curious to find out when the page is deactivated. In the first batch, the Switch CE sold out in 10 minutes while the PS4 CE sold out in 13 minutes.)
I got switch game and PS4 CE since I like how the art on it isn’t interrupted by Switch red spine.
how so?
yeah, makes me sad that the switch box isnt as pretty as the ps4 one
BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE
aaand its gone
By my watch, it took 9 minutes plus change for the Switch CE to sell out.
FPO the switch box art is different than PS4
ohhh i see what the switch did. yeah the ps4 case is nicer
However, this time around the 2nd batch was only 30% of the entire Switch allotment of 2,500 CE units.
Why do I love this game so much? Why is Supergiant so awesome? Idk. All I know is take my money please.
im SO hype for this
i really like transistor's combat so i'm interested in trying it out on control vs a trackpad
im surprised, ps4's really lagging behind switch
i'm so used to playing it on pc, too.
kind of excited to try it out with a controller.
speak of the devil, final 10\
Only 6 left of the PS4 CE units.
1
1 😄
BOOM
took a lil longer for ps4 this time
It’s sad for me to think that someone who wanted one was the 4001th and missed out 😆
yeaaah
I want to buy the physical version for PS4 but I’m broke ;-;
I slept through my alarm and mised out on the collectors edition. Ahhhhhhhh
rip
rip indeed. I don't even remember turning it off
absolute tragedy
I was already planning where I'd put the posters
Ah well, if missing out on a game I already own is the biggest of my issues then I really don't have much to complain about
@opal oak if the poster happen to be the main reason you wanted the CE, you’re in luck, because they’re available individually in supergiant’s store
the box art poster is a bigger size tho
Yeah I have that open right now :) I was super keen for all of it though, I'm a big fan of pins
I’m sorry you didn’t wake up in time tho :( happened to me before, I turned off alarms without remembering or set them to PM when they should’ve been AM or vice versa
I definitely think I'll snag a poster or two anyway
same, it’s like 40% of the reason I HAD to have it
Yeah I live in Australia so it was at like 7am for me
i have absolutely set alarms for like 4am instead of 4pm when trying to take a nap, forgotten about it, and then given myself an Awful Surprise later on
oh dang... I got lucky with it being evening for me...
see, the real pro strat is to own neither of the consoles that the release is for
so you get to wave at the pre-order as it passes you by.
or afternoon rather, and second batch on 1 am which I was awake for anyway bc my sleep schedule sux
i.... I don’t own any of the consoles the release is for....
valid
man, the pins would've been the main tempter for me
i have nowhere to put the posters because my room legit is not big enough
I have no excuse to Not cosplay red now
i don't wear jewelry but how cool would it be to wear the ring on a lil chain or a cord or something instead
I told myself I’d frame and and hang the posters when I move and my room is slightly bigger now but also more windows so less wall space. Big F
I have a friend who works in a printing company and I get them to Matte laminate posters for me
It's like regular laminating but with no sheen
More expensive but it's worth it
i was actually considering the PS4 version because of how the Transistor's voice comes out of the controller
it's such a dumb little mechanic that adds tons to the experience
but then again the switch is just too good
ngl I forgot the ps4 controller has a speaker til now
no one uses it well so it's forgotten
but even the light on the controller glows like the sword when the voice comes out
it's like you're holding the transistor... just less heavy LMAO
Maybe transistor is light as a feather...
after all, a tonne of feathers is lighter than a tonne of steel
read some fanon that suggested that the transistor is as heavy as your feelings around it are
alternately, royce is buff as hekk considering how he hefts it around
yeets it around
Saddest thing ever, waking up after passing out from a 12hr shift to find you completely missed the collector's edition you've been dreaming of for years

Any chance someone here picked up an extra copy they're willing to sell? Totally get if not, I just see the limited games site lists that there's wasn't a limit on how many you could buy.
There's probably scalpers for this, check ebay?
Yup scalper has 6 of them for $220 :/
That's so messed up, I don't get why Limited run would let you buy more than one or two.
2.6 times the price, but I guess to be fair it's the only way I'm going to get one. They probably make a pretty good argument that way
They being the scalper
I feel like Supergiant has to realize the hype behind this release. They may choose to run another batch of these at some point.
Like, sadly, yeah, you may want to save the ebay listing, but I'd give it a couple weeks before purchasing.
Kk. I know this is really really dumb and I feel hella immature, but I cried when I realized is missed out on it. Like I know it's just a fancy edition of a game I already own, but that's how excited I was for it and how much I love the game. I realize I could have come up with a plan like have a friend/family buy it while I was busy/àsleep, but hindsight is 20/20 :/
My plan was set an alarm and I slept through it XD
Oof the Ebay listings are so expensive
Also I live in Australia so would need to pay like 50 dollars postage
I actually was in a meeting with my manager when 6 pm hit. I told him "I've got something important to do, brb" and went out into our lobby to buy it. That's how dedicated I was to making sure I got one so I totally get how you feel @misty sparrow. Maybe Supergiant will have a talk with LR and go for another batch.
What I may suggest is, if absolutely NOTHING else, open up a Paypal Credit, and purchase it off the scalpers with that. That way, you have 6 months to pay for the whole thing. Not the best option, especially since you're opening a credit line, but atleast It's not such a financial burden all at once.
What I hope happens is that LR just cancels all the orders past 2.
Anyone see how fast they sold out? Like did it take a few hours per patch or was it more like minutes?
When I woke up 4 hours after release they were gone. That's my only reference point
They sold out in MINUTES.
The first batch was apparently 11~ mins.
The 2nd, with the ps4 being the last to sell, took about 15 mins~
Daaaaang that's crazy. I remember feeling like I had plenty of time to snag the Bastion one. Big picture wise I'm happy to see how loved this game is because of how quickly it sold out lol
limited run games won’t cancel orders in my experience, resale value on these things is one of the big draws for people to buy unfortunately
The consequences of “limited run” I guess
This, is what scientists call: "A big oof"
I'm so happy I got my transistor special edition. I was waiting for the very second they were on sale.
It was such a cute set of things! I feel like if I just got the coasters I'd be happier, but I'm not willing to spend the extra money for a copy on ebay : /
Even if I could justify spending that much for an Ebay copy. I'd still feel kind of gross buying from a scalper
Right? It sucks that they can make so much money off of being 10 minutes faster than someone who actually wants the limited item
The system runs on scalpers....
got my roommate to play transistor finally
pls tell us they loved it
they felt betrayed by royce and love asher a lot
they’re on the second play through
I have to say though, I still need a Transistor artbook in my life 👀
@elder prairie that's already been posted over in #fan-works :)
oh cool!! thanks for letting me know!
I sort of got lucky with one Switch LR and one PS4 LR.
It'll be the..........8th and 9th time I've purchased it lol.
dang, and i thought buying it 5 times was a lot
Another for the Asher fan club! 
Headcanon: Royce only did what he did to avoid the bridge to Fairview being built. He didn't want a whole heap of people near his home, so he knew democracy was flawed
Royce is the nimby king!!!
nimcb (not in my cloudbank)
do we know when we’ll be getting the collector’s edition shipped to us? 
the approximation of the PS4 version is september, and the Switch is october!
keep an eye on this page
you should also get an email from limited run games when the product ships
thanks guys 
I cannot figure out if Royce not building a bridge so people will leave him the hell alone is a big mood or makes me want to punch him harder
also if we want to go full nimby we need someone vaguely proclaiming that they’re protecting the environment while not really doing anything to do so wheezes
Hi all. Does anyone happen to know how to configure Transistor to run in windowed, borderless mode in the Epic Games Launcher? Thank you.
cannot stop thinking about how much i adore this game
transistor lives in my head rent free
I’m still theorizing over the story with my sister years later
I think I've written more words abt transistor than about any other media tbh
Inside of you there are many many people
One is a function
Another is a function
Another is a function
[...]
You are the Transistor
maybe the real transistor is the friends we made along the way- oh wait
The Real transitors are made from silicon
They were invented by henry bardeen, who won two whole nobel prizes in physics
henry Bardeen is royce’s human sona
https://flying-lemons.tumblr.com/post/94463321066/i-think-this-is-irrevocable-proof-i-have-too-much
wheatley is royce's robotsona
https://flying-lemons.tumblr.com/post/94472453521/it-works-in-reverse-too
or... is royce wheatley's humansona
I believe it
Bardeen was reportedly quiet and humble, and would have barbecues with neighbours
Wheatley was a robot that had a head too big for his own good and got consigned to oblivion
very good
*John Bardeen
This was in my paper's weekly quiz this week, I knew keeping that nugget of information would be useful
Whoops
hello, someone spoke something about transiscourse, i seem to be unaware of it. Anyone care to help me out?
I mean I think it’s just general lore stuff ?
Prob over whether camerata is good or not but I couldn’t really tell u
Well like, what does the game say about democracy?
Most of the main characters hate the world for being too democratic
Is cloudbank bad and why?
Was the failure of xamerata incidental, ô r where they doomed to fail
I'm not sure Cloudbank is "bad" according to the game, but that the pure level of fluid democracy presented was unstable and somewhat meaningless.
Yeah
I’m trying to dig up what my thoughts were on this Ope
I was def in the camerata intentions were good
Objectively good, or that they thought it was good 🙂
Because I'd definitely agree to the latter, not so sure about the former if only because I'm not sure the level of chaos and potential violence they were aiming to wield were justified by the situation.
Yeah I think the rake changes based on how many people you think they planned to send to the country and whether you think it’s ok to do so per se
For example if you take it as the country is a real place while still counting for death then it’s not So So Bad
And also I’ve seen the theorized # of people they were planning to kill vary wildly
nodnod
Bc if it’s per se 10 ppl vs like 50 where does one draw the line for the betterment of society ?
I don't think that the situation warranted any violence on their part though, no matter how benevolent.
Yeah fair
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If you want to call it betterment
I read it as the needs of the one vs needs of the many sorta sitch
Absolutely. Now if it could be objectively determined that it would be better and the people impacted could consent to dying to bring about that "better" future, then perhaps. But that's a huge assumption.
I generally operate as a rule utilitarian.
Have you heard of "ordinary" utilitarianism?
Things are "good" if they produce better outcomes?
Bc ofc none of the ppl consented to dying w that one oops 
Hm maybe let me look it up
May be familiar w concept and jot the name
👍 It's a little more than that, but the general idea is that "things are good if they produce good outcomes"
But a common critique of utilitarianism is "why don't I just kill someone, harvest all their organs, and save a dozen lives?"
Rule utilitarianism tries to solve this by saying that it also needs to be good when applied as a general rule of society.
yeah
So you can't just go out and kill someone to save a dozen people, because then everyone might be killed for their organs and no one would be left.
Hhhhhhmmn ok wild
Ok that makes more sense
I think I’m remembering now my take
OOP
ok lemme try again no cursing
I don't think that if their plan had succeeded that it would have made a better world. To my understanding they killed a bunch of people in order to use them to replace democracy. That's necessarily a worse world, even if they would have had better art or whatever
Well hm
The democracy isn’t one as we think of it tho per de
I mean yes, it’s democracy but
It’s more of an Everything All The Time Thing
It's direct democracy taken to its extreme
Yeah
Cloudbank operated much more like a ^ That
And it’s full rule of the majority
Hi I’ve read up on political theory and I’m gonna use the phrase uh hold ion
Tyrrany of the majority
One of the themes of transistor is that direct democracy should not be taken as far as it is in the story
Bc even think about how they voted for something like what band was playing at a concert venue, that small band never would play on there under the Full Democracy system that sorta thing
Yeah
What other alternative would there be then is the question
Consensus democracy, for example
I’m a little rusty on lore I’ll admit, I don’t remember what the full end goal of camerata was tbh other than ‘breaking free of our system’
I'm not sure Transistor intends the Camerata plot to be "the only alternative", but it is one proposed solution.
Consensus democracy?
I mean that’s basically what they had
Issue was it was applied to everything
Wish we had a this tbh emoji oop
😛
? It wasn't consensus democracy at all?
Consensus democracy requires 100% of people to agree instead of 50%
With exceptions for when people are being unreasonable
Eeee that’s uh
I don’t think that’d work esp for the votes presented in transistor
And would require people to debate and agree on things like the weather oop
It's an alternative that would have a dressed the issues
People wouldn't have to debate on the weather if they didn't want to
But then how would 100% consensus be reached y’know
People who don't care that much would cede to those that care more
I think 100% consensus democracy would result in nothing getting done, since it is already difficult to get that level of agreement with only 10-12 people.
But how would one figure out who cared more and less &c. I feel like that brings more issues than it solved
Yeah exactly
The issue wasn’t the form of democracy, it was because it was applied to Everything
I think that’d be funny as hell tbh
Everyone else in cloud bank: we agreed sunny would be ok, Please
Me, actual gremilin unwilling to compromise: R A I N
The problem everyone complains about is that things change too fast... slowing it down could be an advantage
Consensus democracy is how juries are run
Keep in mind that Royce Bracket was an architect and engineer first. Basically, what he wanted when he founded the Camerata was a way to predict what people would want next. Instead of waiting for people to make up their fickle minds and cast their votes, he wanted to use the combined consciousnesses of the most influential people in the city to make these decisions beforehand, so that the city could be rebuilt (whatever that means in a Matrixy/digital world like Cloudbank) more rapidly
He reckoned that what he was doing would be right, if it worked, but also knew that the population wouldn't like being removed from the decisions, so he did all this in secret
you know though, i always kinda thought that changing society was ultimately a secondary concern for him. definitely more grant's area of concentration, that.
It's bad for the population to be removed from the decisions, I'd argue
In favor of some sort of machine learning? Sounds dystopian
It literally is dystopian my dude
i wonder if that's what it would look like. one big complicating factor is the fact that the camerata's plan went wrong in its infancy--was it something like 12% complete? 14%?
so what 100% looks like is... man, who can say for certain
It was their hubris that failed them. They trusted the transistor to work consistently, they didn't know it's weaknesses
(greg. greg can. he just won't.)
Was the transistor's weakness literally just love though? In a Harry Potter sort of way?
It wasn't their hubris, it was that none of them knew that Red's boyfriend would be there at the time they tried to Process her
Sybil knew...
Did she?
Yep, she made sure he'd be there
It's in the help () logs
Iirc
It's not talked about too much because it invokes a pretty gross trope
but deffo nobody could've guessed he'd inadvertently mess up the process in the way he did
the jealous lesbian's home wrecker tendencies destroy the world, and that's the only canon lesbian in sgg games iirc
Kinda damning when I put it in the most inflammatory terms possible
No you’re right tho
Honestly that’s prob part of why I’m Big Sympathetic to the camerata they’re either queer coded or gay which Oof
Like I realize there’s only like 6 characters in transistor so I appreciate the rep but uhhhh
Yeah I hate Sybil a lot
And I’m not faulting the team or anything their intentions were good but Still augh
This is just me ranting now but ppl who ship red w Sybil like,, ik y’all want lesbian rep but in canon Sybil is gross and a stalker and tries to kill red’s bf like!
Hi, I fully intend to blame the camerata plan failing on Sybil
And why the transistor crashed wasn’t bc of love iirc it’s bc reds bf never voted on anything ever in his life so there was no data on him, he was null
Yeah that's the obvious takeaway
Abt Sybil u mean? Or why the transistor-crashed
Why the transistor crashed
Yeah
The camerata plan went mostly without a hitch before the incident
Right!
Extraordinarily cool Sybil, thank u so much so cool
OOP
Sorry I curse a lot ee
And to be fair sybil had no clue killing him would end that way but,, also to be fair not a good look killing a random dude who’s not part of the plan chief!!
She could’ve but still
Also I sorta read it as she wasn’t planning to kill red after so they could ‘be together’ which,,,, yea that’s gonna work out wel
*well
i gathered that her intention was to save her, yeah
I suppose you can look at it from a she was trying to be merciful stance but ee
I just don’t like Sybil so I’m gonna hate everything she does oop
Kinda funny in this context that OOP also stands for "Object-Oriented Programming"
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I think that sybil was actually counting on the integration of red to fail
GGHHHH got me there
to save red right
her in fight lines
I wonder yeah bc as shown there r other camerata members there
So there was only so much she could do
She could've gone public
Betrayed the camerata to save red, and then killed the guy on her own time if she really wanted to
thing is, she was the one who recommended swording red to begin with
BIG OOPS
I forgot abt that tbh
RIGHT wasn’t it bc she thought she’d kill the guy instead of red w that or was it bc she was mad red didn’t like her
Also ur name is so powerful
to be honest it's never explicitly said
Ahh right
khfldsa lmao thank you
Y’all mind if I tries to kill someone to show them I love them
Couldn't she just have recommended red's bf to be integrated?
Well there’s no use in it
There is to her
we know she believed that boxer was somehow turning red against her and that she wanted to do something about this, and we know that she put red up as a suggestion for advancing the camerata's plan, and we know that she said red would be alone but she probably knew that was a falsehood
They were getting artists and engineers and such
Why would they kill a nobody y’know?
but whether there is a directly causal relationship there is more open to interpretation, i suppose
O is the dudes name boxer
haha well that's one of his monikers
consider also the possibility that they didn't want red to die--none of them did. recall that many of the camerata's victims were invited to join them willingly first
OH right
just, you know, it's kind of an offer you can't refuse
Honestly tho if the creepy girl who’d be stalking you showed up with some weird guys saying they were gonna change the word
*world
And rhey had a big scary sword like,,
I don’t care what they’re doin I’m gonna say no no matter what !
Altho I’m not red but
I think the same would hold true
i think our only glimpse into how red felt about her was through "in circles"
it feels like pity, yeah
Yeah
Not the basis of a healthy relationship
I just Don’t Like Sybil so I’m 1000000% never gonna think the best of her I’ll admit my bias
could Syble have gone public, it would be her vs an admin
Yeaah
Would’ve been easy to say ‘crazed socialite has crush on singer, is rejected and tries to blame everyone else for her problems’
but it would be her vs an admin, what ever asher did, and royce
Yeah but the info she’d be spreading is so wild that people wouldn’t believe it
also didn't they have the head of the news in the sword?
And she’d likely ‘go to the country’ because of ‘grief’ soon enough
Don’t think so?
Thought they were wiped out by the process
hm
You're talking about different characters
There was a detective that got integrated because he just wouldn't drop the case
Yeah that dude
Maybe there’s another head of the news I’m thinking of the person who reported the state of the city on qvc
heehee, qvc
i replayed over the past couple days and man, i totally missed the pronounciation of Jallaford's name the first time
it doesn't look spanish so "Haya-ford" really threw me off
^ since you mentioned the detective c:
I guess another problem with cloudbank is that although there's a democracy, it's still administrated by a couple people who have all the power
They get to pick what's even on the ballot it seems
yeah, there must be some hella failsafes to ensure they don't just push through what they want/tamper with the votes.
unless there isn't...
or maybe the democratic system they have is so ingrained as a cultural value that nobody would think to do such a thing, i dunno
Yeah could be
Apparently everyone thinks administration is hard work, so Admins tend to be trusted to love their city
I do wonder what the specific role of the administrator is tbh
I mean all the camerata stuff is played as ‘we love our city so much we wanna fix it’
I don't think there's any fail-safes at all, with all the power red gets once she gets admin rights
i kind of assumed it was like any administrator would do... i mean, thinking of it in IT terms, it starts to make more sense in my head anyway
oh I’m sure it’s an it thing I just know the bare minimum abt tech stuff Ope
I mean I know enough but I’m not Well Versed is all
I mean cloud bank is a metaphor for a computer sorta
Which is why everything cycles
Admins are something like civil servants
And is all uhh how do you say Computery lmao
W the process being the coding that makes up the city
And that’s why when you do a new run Royce says the first line bc code starts w a BRACKET. H A H
Cloudbank is not analogous to a computer and it's confusing the more you think about it
In my essay I will
oh sure
yeah, in universe they're like civil servants, and practically speaking irl they're the folks who have access to all of the back-end, well, processes that users interact with from day to day
I know there's a bunch of computer parts everywhere but they don't neatly tie together
it does! but i don't think it's a perfect 1:1 analog
Oh yeah it’s not 1:1 for sure hit
*but
Idk I always viewed it as a virtual world more than a real one
It doesn't add anything to the story to learn that the world is virtual or "real", it's a distinction without a difference
that's my interpretation too, personally. though importantly, i remember greg once saying that in the grand scheme of things, it just is what it is. it's their world, and it's real to them, and maybe that's all that really matters
but lmao i'm still sitting here silently assigning IT roles to the camerata
grant is an admin, obvs. and if grant's an admin then royce is your back-end developer--or maybe front-end developer? the back end kind of develops itself, thanks process
sybil is a community manager 
Oh absolutely
sybil had to hear 'when can i port my soul to switch' every day thats y she snapped 😔
Also,,,, please just let me have fun thinking it’s a virtual world there’s no need to be rude ;-;
she got it the most from Boxer
Ik it doesn’t matter but it’s fun to speculate abt
You ever see San Junipero?
oh, i apologize if i came off as brusque or annoyed! i don't feel that way at all, but perhaps i conveyed myself poorly... text and all
OH not u
Yeah, it's Black Mirror
I think Cloudbank is sorta that
The people are real, or were at some point, but now they're in a computer
And the Country is 'waking up'
But that's only one interpretation
hopefully you'll find in general that peeps are quite open-minded to exploring different interpretations of these games
disagreements may happen from time to time but we can be trusted to keep it civil
honestly my take is that things can be a lot of things at once
or else

mhm!!
tho now i AM thinking about the camerata/cloudbankers being a bunch of kids heated over an mmo and its adorable
lmfsdao
isn't that uhhh .hack
hjfgfchjfhj
I always thought that the camerata end goal was waking up tbh
So country being waking up is pretty cool
Mom said it’s MY TURN on the cloudbank!!!!!!!!!!!!
tbh tho in the end i rather like not knowing
That’s fair
I’ve got my own ideas but tbh ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ik it’ll never be Offical or that it’s the only way
I just like talking abt where the disagreements stem from it’s so Fun 
The Country is the "game over", yeah
one day imma write that country fic....... one day
I’ve read one 1 country fic once and now whenever I dream up stories abt the camerata they’re just chillin in a cabin together
Which? Isn’t that really the end goal 
i have often considered that maybe death isn't quite... the same for cloudbank citizens
Me, chillin w my buds in a weird dystopian cabin in the middle of the ‘country’: Nice
one day i'll write fic for this game but in the meantime rp is Good when it happens
sometimes it feels like people talk about it with... nowhere near the same gravity you'd expect
i do enjoy any iteration of the country where the camerata are there but so are aaaaaallllll their victims and guess what turkeys, you still have to reckon with what you did
taking into account, of course, that you'll ever see royce apologize for it
royce: i have never done anything wrong ever, in my life
also royce, because he's in front of a mirror: i know this, and i love you
not sure which i like better, red seeing him there and just going off on him, or her being like "nope didn't come here to deal with you, bye"
probably depends on circumstances a bit
you know though, between the two i'd be more worried about boxer
yeah
although red might keep things from getting out of hand, if she feels like
Sorry for being mean earlier
While we're talking characters, I guess I can bring up my pet theory again
That when you hear talking in the transistor, it's the transistor itself using the voices of the people you love to get you to do what it wants. Red realizes this, and that's why the ending is like that
OH DAMB THATS WILD
oh man that messes w me i love it
Altho then why at the end would he beg her not to do it
Actually no it still works
Also I’m a Royce apologist tbh I just love his character so much
@hot tree
royce gang
Royce Royce Royce!!
I blame uhhhh
DON'T LISTEN UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET SPOILED FOR TRANSISTOR Someone was really nice to rip all the audio files from the game Transistor, and I set to put toge...
I used to listen to this when I was going to sleep bc his voice is so nice so he’d be talking about his plans & id be nodding off going ‘uh huh, yuh huh, sure Royce huh uh ur right snzz’
Now that’s some brave new world level sleep teaching HAH
I'm gonna tell myself that the man in the Transistor IS there because after Red does that the voice is freaking out before the credits start.
yeaaaaah, i feel like it loses a lot if he isn't the one talking
the ending becomes straight-up depressing instead of bittersweet, for one thing
Okay, if the voice is just the transistor itself, what's the explanation for drunk Boxer?
The Spine WAS screwing with it, that much was certain.
Yeah
Altho I thought of it more as like uh
If u were talking thru a radio and the radio started breaking down
Actually nvm he really acted drunk didn’t he
Yeah, he gets loopy.
So that might work in the favor of it being just the transistor 🤔
Nah, that goes either way.
I mean I personally don’t think it’s just the transistor but still
Just bc boxer is so Null that there’d be nothing to work w
How would it go the other way? I can’t figure it oop
It seems to be like brain uploading, so if the transistor is acting as a brain and the spine messes with it then that works out
Ahhhhhhhh makes sense
Me opening 100000 chrome tabs thru tears: THIS IS 4 BOXER
My computer: dies
Does anyone know where I can get access to a high-def pic of an access point? I'm hoping to get a tattoo of one
I can't find the asset anywhere rip
You tried the extractor already?
look up transistor texture ripper
this..?
i don’t even remember if this is an access point,,
yeah thats called an access point
put that on my skin tbh
thanks @full peak !
isnt it weird that these are just... around
normally there's only 1 transistor, so what do they do for everyone else
presumably not just anybody can open them - they're probably useful for maintenance and such
like manholes
maintenance seems perfectly doable using terminals
probably the equivalent to security panels? For all we know the transistor can grant permissions and access to third party individuals
Maybe on visible when u have transistor?
*only
I thought the process was invisible as wel somewhat maybe I’m misremembering
it was invisible before royce changed things
iirc he was the one to shift the veil or something?
Ohh right
Yeah yeah that
I can’t remember rn but that sounds abt it
Either way one would assume transistor points wouldn’t be visible normally
Which is super cool bc then they could put anything into the world and say it’s a process thing so people wouldn’t have normally seen this
That’s a bit incoherent but y’all get it
The access points might be mainly for special mod use
With the transistor being an extra use for them
this is the first time i seriously look at the access point in detail
god i love this game its so pretty
"we'll sort this out, maybe we can sort this out"
its like the electronics boxes at the end of streets in the uk, you occaisionsally see them opened up when being worked on with all the wires and terminals for the different buildings on the street. i guess access points are more like that than manholes maybe
the backdoors are more like manholes i guess becase a man (or woman with a large sword) can fit in them
The backdoors are definitely invisible, right?
It's a surprise the first time they're seen
collectors edition too expensive for me


